Gaddafi’s Gone

How not to handle a popular revolution
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If Muammar Gaddafi had accepted reality and stepped down early on, he probably could have had a relatively comfortable retirement as an ex-dictator. There are countries that specialize in providing havens for problematic suddenly-deposed Maximum Leaders. (Saudi Arabia, I’m looking at you.)

Instead, the Colonel went mad dog, slaughtered a lot of innocent people who just wanted better lives, for no damned reason at all, and ensured that he’s going to face charges for war crimes.

Maybe this will be a lesson to the area’s other despots.

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796 comments
1 jamesfirecat  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 5:57:27pm

Nah-Nah-Nah-NAAAA Hey, Hey... GOODYE!

2 Idle Drifter  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 5:58:32pm

Where the Hell is Gadhafi going to hide?

3 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:00:15pm

re: #2 Idle Drifter

Where the Hell is Gadhafi going to hide?

Somewhere in Tripoli, at least according to the rebels in the city. It's a matter of cornering him and either forcing his surrender...or putting him on ice.

4 Killgore Trout  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:00:44pm

Noticeably absent were the leftist idiots who showed up to be human shields for Saddam. Even George Galloway didn't stick his neck out for Q"Daffy. Western Lefties learned their lesson.

5 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:01:24pm

Somewhere, there is a luxury condo where Assad could spend the rest of his life.

His call.

6 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:03:17pm

re: #5 EmmmieG

Somewhere, there is a luxury condo where Assad could spend the rest of his life.

His call.

If the last few years have been any indication, dictators never believe that they can be toppled until their door is being kicked in. Assad's not likely to give it up, anymore than Gaddafi was.

7 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:04:05pm

re: #6 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

If the last few years have been any indication, dictators never believe that they can be toppled until their door is being kicked in. Assad's not likely to give it up, anymore than Gaddafi was.

Partly because they are surrounded by hundreds of people who need them to stay in power, and are probably not giving them the truth.

8 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:04:47pm

re: #5 EmmmieG

Somewhere, there is a luxury condo where Assad could spend the rest of his life.

His call.

Assad's going to end up hanging from a hook the way he's going.

9 CuriousLurker  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:05:54pm

re: #3 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Somewhere in Tripoli, at least according to the rebels in the city. It's a matter of cornering him and either forcing his surrender...or putting him on ice.

If he trips & falls on someone's weapon, I'm not gonna shed any tears, though I have to admit a trial would probably be fun—can you imagine the delusional ranting that would ensue?

10 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:06:23pm

He is gone? Yippee. Assad is next.

11 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:06:26pm

Man, these Libyans pop off more rounds than a South Austin New Year.

Or a Kentucky wedding party.

12 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:07:44pm

"Gadaffi Flew Away! Bashar is Next"! Syria Rally Chant - Homs 8-21-11

13 Idle Drifter  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:08:15pm

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Assad's going to end up hanging from a hook the way he's going.

Shelling unarmed refugees with tank and naval gun fire doesn't exactly endear hearts and minds. There are likely thousands in Lebanon alone with a few scores to settle with Damascus.

14 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:08:20pm

re: #9 CuriousLurker

If he trips & falls on someone's weapon, I'm not gonna shed any tears, though I have to admit a trial would probably be fun—can you imagine the delusional ranting that would ensue?

I'd give good money to see him before the ICC, just to see what a few years in prison does to his appearance. Thought, I will miss the Babe Brigade bodyguards.

15 ElCapitanAmerica  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:09:09pm

Remember all those people criticizing the president's approach on Libya? Sounds like this paid off like the raid on Bin Laden's compound no?

16 CuriousLurker  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:09:54pm

re: #14 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'd give good money to see him before the ICC, just to see what a few years in prison does to his appearance. Thought, I will miss the Babe Brigade bodyguards.

Heh, yeah, I wonder what'll happen to them?

17 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:09:58pm

re: #14 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'd give good money to see him before the ICC, just to see what a few years in prison does to his appearance. Thought, I will miss the Babe Brigade bodyguards.

They can probably get a gig as backup dancers for Beyonce's or Rihanna's next world tour.

18 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:10:13pm

re: #15 ElCapitanAmerica

Remember all those people criticizing the president's approach on Libya? Sounds like this paid off like the raid on Bin Laden's compound no?

Yeah, I waiting til tomorrow to see how all those who called for him to be impeached due to violation of the War Powers Act will take this.

19 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:11:03pm

I wonder what's become of the Colonel's female bodyguard squad?

20 Achilles Tang  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:11:31pm

re: #7 EmmmieG

Partly because they are surrounded by hundreds of people who need them to stay in power, and are probably not giving them the truth.

and who would slit the throat of their icon if they were dumped.

21 Idle Drifter  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:11:36pm

re: #11 austin_blue

Man, these Libyans pop off more rounds than a South Austin New Year.

Or a Kentucky wedding party.

I should see if there's anything on the local news about any goings on Dearborn, MI.

22 Achilles Tang  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:12:24pm

I haven't seen this confirmed on the news yet.

23 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:12:59pm

Man, these Al Jaz reporters are looking absolutely exhausted. They have done yeoman labor. It's 4 in the morning there for pity's sake. Great job.

These women war correspondents absolutely *rock*.

24 lawhawk  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:13:03pm

Dictators always believe that they're in control, up until the moment they're not. They never quite realize that their perch in power is precarious; someone could sell them out (coup d'etat), they could buy the farm in an airstrike or bombing, or any number of other events that are beyond their control.

Khadafi could have found a cozy home somewhere on some secluded coast where he could have holed up with his female Praetorian guard, but no... he decided to slug it out with anyone and everyone because his ego really is that big.

So now, he may actually find out what it's like to be strung up from a lamppost, or tried before a court for all of his crimes against the Libyan people, or if he isn't actually captured, may end up getting caught in a rat hole like another rabid dog.

Oh, and dictators never think it's going to happen to them. It's always going to be the other dumb dictator who doesn't quite play by the Dictator's playbook.

25 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:13:43pm

re: #19 Charles

I wonder what's become of the Colonel's female bodyguard squad?

Walking back to Kiev?

Just sayin'...

26 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:15:27pm

re: #24 lawhawk

Dictators always believe that they're in control, up until the moment they're not. They never quite realize that their perch in power is precarious; someone could sell them out (coup d'etat), they could buy the farm in an airstrike or bombing, or any number of other events that are beyond their control.

Khadafi could have found a cozy home somewhere on some secluded coast where he could have holed up with his female Praetorian guard, but no... he decided to slug it out with anyone and everyone because his ego really is that big.

So now, he may actually find out what it's like to be strung up from a lamppost, or tried before a court for all of his crimes against the Libyan people, or if he isn't actually captured, may end up getting caught in a rat hole like another rabid dog.

Oh, and dictators never think it's going to happen to them. It's always going to be the other dumb dictator who doesn't quite play by the Dictator's playbook.

Spot on. Great post.

"The Megalomania is strong with this one..."

27 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:16:58pm

re: #21 Idle Drifter

Doesn't Alouette live there?

28 sod  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:17:05pm

re: #19 Charles

I wonder what's become of the Colonel's female bodyguard squad?

I think they'll end up in the next Austin Powers movie.

29 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:18:57pm

re: #27 ProLifeLiberal
I know she is in Michigan I do not know which city.

30 Idle Drifter  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:19:30pm

re: #27 ProLifeLiberal

Doesn't Alouette live there?

Alouette? I don't know. I just move back to Michigan this month.

31 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:19:34pm

Your High-Drama 80s Keyboards Clip of the Day:

The first rock and roll song I learned by ear.

32 CuriousLurker  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:19:46pm

re: #27 ProLifeLiberal

Doesn't Alouette live there?

She mentions shopping there, so she must at least live close by.

33 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:20:31pm

re: #31 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Your High-Drama 80s Keyboards Clip of the Day:

[Video]The first rock and roll song I learned by ear.

Embedding fail.

34 lawhawk  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:21:38pm

re: #26 austin_blue

Assad is the son of a dictator who thought that it is his destiny to remain in power and for the country to do his biddy. It's what he grew up to be.

The same can be said of L'il Kim in North Korea. They inherited dictatorships and think they have every right to carry on as they do.

Funny thing is that Khadafi came to power in a coup. He knew the risks of letting others gain too much power, but in the end it was the people who decided enough was enough.

35 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:21:59pm

re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Embedding fail.

Yup. You think Seger put an embed block on it?

36 albusteve  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:22:00pm

Mo had a gifted, sureal life of pleasure and power...if it all goes bad, if he's chopped to pieces or hung or shot, then so be it

37 lostlakehiker  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:22:15pm

re: #5 EmmmieG

Somewhere, there is a luxury condo where Assad could spend the rest of his life.

His call.

He, like MacBeth, is stepped in blood too far. Assad has powerful backers, though not so powerful as he may imagine. These things are incalculable.

Men of Assad's stripe are not lacking in self esteem and self confidence. Almost without exception, they cannot see the writing on the wall. [Marcos being the exception.]

Now would be the perfect time to offer Assad a golden parachute of amazing generosity. His own private island. Every convenience. Get out of jail free cards for himself and all his accomplices. Whatever. Everything but power.

Point to the fates of Saddam, of Hosni Mubarak, of Ceaucescu, of the Gaddafi clan, of Hitler and Mussolini, and, by comparison, that of Marcos.

But likely it would all be in vain. These guys act as though The Lord is hardening their heart so that they will take a pass on the easy way out and get what's coming to them.* And in Assad's case, he has more secular worries. He has taken friends who will not quietly shake their heads and walk away if he tires of their help. They'll kill him.

Iran has considerable sway now in Syria. Assad is not Shia, but most of Syria is. Assad does not have missiles, but Iran does. And Iran will not want Assad to step down. If for no other reason, they'll see themselves next in the gunsights of history.

*Metaphorical language. Whether there's always a naturalistic explanation for the stuff that happens, it's for sure that there's a lot more such explanations than occur to us right away. It's reckless to assert divine intervention without proof, and short of the Red Sea parting, how can there be proof? And even that's not beyond the realm of natural possibility. It's been studied, and the winds described could have done the job back when sea level was lower.

38 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:22:16pm

re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Try this -

39 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:23:53pm

re: #35 austin_blue

Yup. You think Seger put an embed block on it?

What ever the reason, its Obama's fault.

40 mikefromArlington  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:23:58pm

Remember all the yapping from the neocons how Obama's failure to take control and invade would turn into a stalemate?

I can't wait for next weekend when Liz Cheney is on MTP to explain how Bush deserves credit.

41 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:26:14pm

Bizarre - Libyan State TV is still on-air.

Dictator latency.

42 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:27:09pm

re: #41 Charles

I heard somebody say that they are using a car or something to broadcast.

I think pilot in NATO has some target practice.

43 darthstar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:27:21pm

re: #41 Charles

Bizarre - Libyan State TV is still on-air.

Dictator latency.

Same state, different leadership. State TV has about 36 hours to change their tone and they'll be embraced by the new leadership.

44 Idle Drifter  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:27:47pm

re: #41 Charles

Bizarre - Libyan State TV is still on-air.

Dictator latency.

They hit the play button and went screaming for the sea to catch the boat to escape the mob.

45 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:27:54pm

re: #34 lawhawk

Assad is the son of a dictator who thought that it is his destiny to remain in power and for the country to do his biddy. It's what he grew up to be.

The same can be said of L'il Kim in North Korea. They inherited dictatorships and think they have every right to carry on as they do.

Funny thing is that Khadafi came to power in a coup. He knew the risks of letting others gain too much power, but in the end it was the people who decided enough was enough.

I've never thought that The Dentist had his heart in it. A reluctant dictator, if you will. His clan's rule is that of a minority, much like the Hashemites in Jordan. These are tenuous regimes. It would not surprise me if Assad takes the money and runs, claiming that he was forced out by the military, which were the real "deciders" and really calling the shots.

46 jaunte  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:28:40pm

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Media Matters has a roundup:

- Obama Is "Feeble" And "Dithering"
- Now, If I Were President ...
- But Obama Is Just Doing It Wrong
- It's Too Late Anyway
- And Obama Did It For The Wrong Reasons
- He Doesn't Really Mean It
- Plus, Hillary's "Over The Edge" With Impatience
- And Obama Collaborated Too Much With Other Countries
- But Not Enough Other Countries
- Isn't This Going To Be Expensive?
- Besides, We Already Have Other Wars Going On
- And We Don't Even Know If We Can Trust Obama
- If Nothing Else Sticks, Let's Just Call It "Obama's Iraq"
Right Wing's Libya Kitchen-Sink Attack
47 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:29:35pm

re: #45 austin_blue
I thought he was an ophthalmologist.

48 Killgore Trout  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:31:32pm

"Our differences could have been solved very differently"
/Gunfire
//Q'Daffy's dickhead son

49 lostlakehiker  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:32:17pm

re: #40 mikefromArlington

Remember all the yapping from the neocons how Obama's failure to take control and invade would turn into a stalemate?

I can't wait for next weekend when Liz Cheney is on MTP to explain how Bush deserves credit.

I would hope they'd just say that in this matter he has done well indeed. Maybe even admit to not having seen how well it might go.

To criticize a man with any effect, you have to be willing to praise the things that merit praise. Otherwise, you're not a critic, you're just a gadfly and an ankle biter.

Republicans have too many philosophical and world-view differences with Obama to see how right he is on every other matter. /

(If he has been right on everything, it'll be a first in the annals of presidencies. There's always something that wasn't done at all well. There's also points where nobody really knows the right answer, though everybody thinks he does. On those points, Republicans will criticize, Democrats will defend, and everybody will think how unreasonable the other side is.)

50 Idle Drifter  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:32:31pm

re: #42 ProLifeLiberal

I heard somebody say that they are using a car or something to broadcast.

I think pilot in NATO has some target practice.

I'm waiting for DARPA to release an electronic and media warfare drone that could jam hostile signals and broadcast pirate signals. Not that I know about such things as I'm only speculating. No, seriously, don't kick my door.

51 lawhawk  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:32:41pm

re: #45 austin_blue

If that is the route, then watch for Iran's tentacles. It will not be pretty, because while Assad and the Alawites are a minority within a minority or Shi'ites, Sunnis are the majority population.

The Iranians will look to exploit the situation to their benefit, and they will not be afraid to use force via their proxies either.

52 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:34:01pm

re: #19 Charles

I wonder what's become of the Colonel's female bodyguard squad?

Best not think too much about it.

53 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:34:10pm

re: #47 PhillyPretzel

I thought he was an ophthalmologist.

Damn. Right you are. My bad.

54 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:34:42pm

re: #50 Idle Drifter

Nah, I prefer the mental image of a Typhoon running down an SUV.

55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:35:31pm

Have dictators not heard the "Sword of Damocles" anecdote? Very rarely does it end well.

56 Killgore Trout  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:36:29pm

re: #52 Conservative Moonbat

Best not think too much about it.

Really? I was thinking bubble baths and pillow fights. I don't regret thinking about that.

57 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:36:35pm

re: #51 lawhawk

If that is the route, then watch for Iran's tentacles. It will not be pretty, because while Assad and the Alawites are a minority within a minority or Shi'ites, Sunnis are the majority population.

The Iranians will look to exploit the situation to their benefit, and they will not be afraid to use force via their proxies either.

Fortunately, they are in a big-time money squeeze right now.

Heheheh. Diplomacy!

58 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:37:18pm

The Sky News video feed is just crazy. Their reporter is wearing a military helmet. Guns firing all over the place.

59 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:37:52pm

re: #55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
All they have ever heard is Divine Providence.

60 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:38:19pm

re: #58 Charles

The Sky News video feed is just crazy. Their reporter is wearing a military helmet. Guns firing all over the place.

Amazing, isn't it? Never seen anything like this. Brave women.

61 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:39:26pm

re: #27 ProLifeLiberal

Doesn't Alouette live there?

I work in Dearborn, don't live there.

62 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:41:50pm

re: #61 Alouette

Good enough.

What's going on there?

63 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:42:26pm

I got to go. Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

64 darthstar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:42:31pm

re: #46 jaunte

Media Matters has a roundup:

Honestly, I think President Obama handled this situation pretty well. It's not over, by a long shot, but we'll have full UN cooperation in getting a new government established and keeping the peace.

65 prairiefire  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:44:06pm

re: #19 Charles

I wonder what's become of the Colonel's female bodyguard squad?

I think they will be able to find warm comfort elsewhere. Sympathetic supporters, if you get my drift.

66 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:46:06pm

re: #50 Idle Drifter

I'm waiting for DARPA to release an electronic and media warfare drone that could jam hostile signals and broadcast pirate signals. Not that I know about such things as I'm only speculating. No, seriously, don't kick my door.

Not a drone:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

67 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:47:01pm

re: #62 ProLifeLiberal

Good enough.

What's going on there?

I'll find out tomorrow morning.

68 makeitstop  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:47:48pm

re: #49 lostlakehiker

I would hope they'd just say that in this matter he has done well indeed. Maybe even admit to not having seen how well it might go.

To criticize a man with any effect, you have to be willing to praise the things that merit praise. Otherwise, you're not a critic, you're just a gadfly and an ankle biter.

The metric I've used is the Somalian pirates episode.

He handled that extremely well - all of ours ended up safe, all of theirs were either dead or in custody.

The haters were proclaiming the mission a failure mere hours after it started, and when it was over they clung to their position that Obama failed.

Those who hate him will never, ever give him credit or doing anything well.

69 palomino  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:50:20pm

re: #40 mikefromArlington

Remember all the yapping from the neocons how Obama's failure to take control and invade would turn into a stalemate?

I can't wait for next weekend when Liz Cheney is on MTP to explain how Bush deserves credit.

Maybe they'll give all the credit to our allies in France. You know how much the neocons love the French.

70 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:50:34pm

Tripoli is on the seashore.

We'll know the revolution was successful when we start seeing ads for vacation resorts in Tripoli.

71 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:53:09pm

re: #70 EmmmieG

That's a bit far for the US though.

72 wrenchwench  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:53:13pm

Tomorrow's NYT front page.

73 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 6:58:55pm

re: #67 Alouette

I'll find out tomorrow morning.

Many Libyan/Libyan-Americans there?

74 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:01:57pm

re: #49 lostlakehiker

I would hope they'd just say that in this matter he has done well indeed. Maybe even admit to not having seen how well it might go.

And the odds of that are...

About the same as them admitting to anything regarding their behavior towards Bill Clinton, or theoretically towards Hillary had she done something similar. My reccomendation: do not hold your breath.

To criticize a man with any effect, you have to be willing to praise the things that merit praise. Otherwise, you're not a critic, you're just a gadfly and an ankle biter.

Yeah, well...

75 makeitstop  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:08:02pm

Over at Cole's place, Tom Levenson has a post full of Republican quotes about Obama's handling of Libya.

They were all wrong. And none of them will admit it, tomorrow or ever.

76 jaunte  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:09:40pm

Libyan-Americans celebrating outside of the White House
[Link: twitpic.com...]

"Finally!"

77 Idle Drifter  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:10:50pm

re: #66 Decatur Deb

Not a drone:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

There's no drone yet!

78 Idle Drifter  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:12:10pm

re: #67 Alouette

I'll find out tomorrow morning.

I'm in the Downriver area it's just a short drive for me. Hopefully I could get some pictures.

79 laZardo  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:17:27pm
Maybe this will be a lesson to the area’s other despots.

Like the Bahraini rulers?

Oh wait, no, they're "our sons-of-bitches."

80 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:19:36pm

re: #75 makeitstop

Over at Cole's place, Tom Levenson has a post full of Republican quotes about Obama's handling of Libya.

They were all wrong. And none of them will admit it, tomorrow or ever.

The thing that bothers them the most: neither Obama or his constituents need their acknowledgement. So they might as well go on and keep withholding it if it makes them feel better...doesn't matter. /Schadenfreude

81 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:20:40pm
Instead, the Colonel went mad dog, slaughtered a lot of innocent people who just wanted better lives, for no damned reason at all, and ensured that he’s going to face charges for war crimes.


Or get the Mussolini treatment...

82 ElCapitanAmerica  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:24:14pm

Via @jaketapper;

POTUS: "The future of Libya is now in the hands of the Libyan people."
jaketapper Jake Tapper

POTUS: "Qadhafi needs to acknowledge the reality that he no longer controls Libya. He needs to relinquish power once and for all."

83 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:26:24pm

re: #79 laZardo

Like the Bahraini rulers?

Oh wait, no, they're "our sons-of-bitches."

They belong to the Saudis. Don't fuck with the Magic Kingdom.

84 Gus  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:34:04pm

re: #79 laZardo

Like the Bahraini rulers?

Oh wait, no, they're "our sons-of-bitches."

Keep in mind that Bahrain is a port for the American 5th Fleet. They're needed there to keep the flow of oil safe and secure in the region especially for our other non-tyrannical ally Saudi Arabia which a free state much like Bahrain. It's about freedom and democracy.

//

85 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:36:50pm

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86 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:38:30pm

re: #15 ElCapitanAmerica

Remember all those people criticizing the president's approach on Libya? Sounds like this paid off like the raid on Bin Laden's compound no?

It increasing looks like if President Obama wants somebody gone, it won't be long before they are gone. He told the Syrian dictator to get gone a few days ago. I'd be scared is I were him.

Oh, and FOX News is talking about Casey Anthony returning to Florida.

87 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:39:31pm

re: #85 austin_blue

Great moderators.

88 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:41:12pm

re: #2 Idle Drifter

Where the Hell is Gadhafi going to hide?

The Sudan would be my guess.

89 Obdicut  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:41:14pm

re: #87 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Nah, when you copy and paste from Fox, it includes the word moderator. Just terrible site design.

90 Idle Drifter  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:41:18pm

re: #84 Gus 802

Keep in mind that Bahrain is a port for the American 5th Fleet. They're needed there to keep the flow of oil safe and secure in the region especially for our other non-tyrannical ally Saudi Arabia which a free state much like Bahrain. It's about freedom and democracy.

//

I remember the warm welcome we received back in 2002 when the Ogden and the Greenville had their collision. We pulled into port and were told the base was on lock down due to some sort of trouble with the locals. That sucked.

91 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:42:56pm

re: #87 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Great moderators.

They're not moderators. I think that if you copy Fox comments to the clipboard, it puts [moderator] by every poster, even if they are spammers.

92 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:43:26pm

re: #89 Obdicut

Nah, when you copy and paste from Fox, it includes the word moderator. Just terrible site design.

Noted, but the moderators let that shit stay up?

93 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:45:29pm

re: #87 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Great moderators.

This latest wanker is beyond the pale:

"Welcome to Chimpout. A black plague is descending upon civilization. That plague is called the n*****. Here at Chimpout we provide up to the minute n***** facts and news stories that are either covered up or buried by the mainstream media. Everything you read here is the truth, gleaned from worldwide sources.

Our message is simple. n*****s are a cancer upon human society.

You will find true stories of brutal n***** rapes, murders and other anti-social behavior, along with a healthy dose of general n***** stupidity that largely go unreported by the big media outlets.

Sit back, read up and find out the true nature of the n*****, be prepared to laugh, cry and become furious as you discover the on going destruction and mayhem caused by n*****s.

We are not a white supremacist site here at Chimpout. We welcome all races, creeds, and colors......just no n*****s."

I. Am. In. Awe. Of. Teh. Evil.

(On a lighter note, will they take the Irish?)

94 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:47:44pm

re: #93 austin_blue

This latest wanker is beyond the pale:

"Welcome to Chimpout. A black plague is descending upon civilization. That plague is called the n*****. Here at Chimpout we provide up to the minute n***** facts and news stories that are either covered up or buried by the mainstream media. Everything you read here is the truth, gleaned from worldwide sources.

Our message is simple. n*****s are a cancer upon human society.

You will find true stories of brutal n***** rapes, murders and other anti-social behavior, along with a healthy dose of general n***** stupidity that largely go unreported by the big media outlets.

Sit back, read up and find out the true nature of the n*****, be prepared to laugh, cry and become furious as you discover the on going destruction and mayhem caused by n*****s.

We are not a white supremacist site here at Chimpout. We welcome all races, creeds, and colors...just no n*****s."

I. Am. In. Awe. Of. Teh. Evil.

(On a lighter note, will they take the Irish?)



Do you suppose that kind of evil shows up on the outside? I would think it would be like Manson, who over the years it just kind of corroded until he looks as creepy as he is.

95 Gus  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:48:09pm

Well. I'm more happy for the Libyan people now that Gaddafi's gone. They suffered more than anyone during his reign. America and NATO helped and their future rests in their hands and I hope they oppose the tendency towards Islamism and make every effort to remain a sovereign and free nation. In the end we should be happy for the Libyan people and not for our own cynical self interests that may have played a role in supporting the rebel who gave their lives for their country.

96 Lidane  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:50:49pm

Still sitting here watching Al Jazeera English and watching all the footage from Libya. I know some folks here don't like Al Jazeera, but their coverage has been stellar so far.

97 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:52:16pm

re: #93 austin_blue

So would it be wrong to spam their site with interracial porn?

98 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:52:47pm

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

No.

99 Lidane  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:53:23pm

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So would it be wrong to spam their site with interracial porn?

It would be a public service.

Better yet, make it interracial gay porn, just for the extra head explosions.

100 darthstar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:53:38pm

re: #96 Lidane

Still sitting here watching Al Jazeera English and watching all the footage from Libya. I know some folks here don't like Al Jazeera, but their coverage has been stellar so far.

That's because the last admin spent eight years treating them like the Tokyo Rose of Al Qaeda. Too bad, as they're pretty up front and open with their coverage - the only bias is that anyone with a conscience would have.

101 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:53:47pm

re: #98 ProLifeLiberal

No.

Quick, TO THE PORN CAVE!

102 Mocking Jay  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:55:09pm

re: #101 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Quick, TO THE PORN CAVE!

Why, back in my day it was called a stash. And it was made o' paper!

103 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:55:20pm

re: #101 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You go in, I'll stay out here.

104 darthstar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:56:49pm

re: #86 moderatelyradicalliberal

It increasing looks like if President Obama wants somebody gone, it won't be long before they are gone. He told the Syrian dictator to get gone a few days ago. I'd be scared is I were him.

Oh, and FOX News is talking about Casey Anthony returning to Florida.

When you have to resort to some chick on probation for writing bad checks, you know you're fucked as a news organization.

105 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:58:23pm

re: #94 EmmmieG

Do you suppose that kind of evil shows up on the outside? I would think it would be like Manson, who over the years it just kind of corroded until he looks as creepy as he is.

I should hope so! I would like *some* visual indication that scum like this are near me. I made a realization as I was reading through the Fox comments. There is absolutely NOTHING I need to read there. It's like diving for pearls in a septic tank-- pointless AND disgusting.

I will let those with braver hearts and stronger stomachs to wade through that corruption. I simply refuse to believe that this is more than a tiny, marginal, sliver of America. If not, I would be more than happy to arm up, if asked.

106 Idle Drifter  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:58:23pm

re: #102 JasonA

Why, back in my day it was called a stash. And it was made o' paper!

The internet is my stash!

107 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:59:00pm

re: #103 ProLifeLiberal

You go in, I'll stay out here.

Just keep hold of the guideline. Last time I went in, I got lost in the Japanese Fetish Porn stratum for days.

108 darthstar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 7:59:23pm

re: #94 EmmmieG

Do you suppose that kind of evil shows up on the outside? I would think it would be like Manson, who over the years it just kind of corroded until he looks as creepy as he is.

You want to know what their average member looks like?

109 jaunte  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:00:20pm

re: #108 darthstar

Gah!

110 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:01:29pm
111 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:01:47pm

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So would it be wrong to spam their site with interracial porn?

Ha! That's brilliant! Lay a little Mandingo action on them, so to speak.

(Not that I know anything about the subject, but I *hear* the man is hung like a show horse.)

112 darthstar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:02:02pm

re: #109 jaunte

Gah!

I'm not saying that Huckabee himself is a racist bigot (though I do think that's a large part of who he is--while not saying so explicitly, of course), but I do think that the clean cut jesus freak fucktard is basically the model for these internet heroes who enjoy spewing racist garbage.

113 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:02:55pm

re: #96 Lidane

Still sitting here watching Al Jazeera English and watching all the footage from Libya. I know some folks here don't like Al Jazeera, but their coverage has been stellar so far.

Yup. Killer bee!

114 celticdragon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:03:16pm

I just took a look at chimpout.

My God.

Worse then Stormfront. This is absolute, unapologetic evil. These are people I don't want to have on the same frakking continent as myself and my family. These are the sort of people who delivered the Zyklon B to the gates of Dachau and Bergen Belsen.

115 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:03:23pm

re: #99 Lidane

It would be a public service.

Better yet, make it interracial gay porn, just for the extra head explosions.

No. it's gotta be porn with white wimmenz.

116 Gus  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:03:48pm

re: #108 darthstar

You want to know what their average member looks like?

What's fir dinner Jethro?

//

117 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:04:56pm

re: #105 austin_blue

I should hope so! I would like *some* visual indication that scum like this are near me. I made a realization as I was reading through the Fox comments. There is absolutely NOTHING I need to read there. It's like diving for pearls in a septic tank-- pointless AND disgusting.

I will let those with braver hearts and stronger stomachs to wade through that corruption. I simply refuse to believe that this is more than a tiny, marginal, sliver of America. If not, I would be more than happy to arm up, if asked.

If the home has small children, you have a relatively good chance of finding something that was never meant to be flushed.

That sight? Not so much.

118 Meitantei  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:05:20pm

You know, you wonder about why these thugs don't just bail with a life of luxury and so on in Saudi Arabia, and I was just thinking about the first real modern thug, that little Corsican bastard two hundred years ago. I mean, he had actually had some fake power in Elba, but it wasn't enough - he had to go back and play in Europe for a hundred days, and then he was lucky he wasn't shot dead after Waterloo.

And since Napoleon was a far greater character than a loon like Qaddafi, what can you really expect from those nuts.

119 darthstar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:05:54pm

Holy shit...people are still voting for Bush? Well, it is facebook, and the only other option is Perry...current count: Bush 441, Perry 37
[Link: www.facebook.com...]

I'm sure that'll change over time.

120 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:10:12pm

re: #18 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, I waiting til tomorrow to see how all those who called for him to be impeached due to violation of the War Powers Act will take this.

I hear that John McCain and Lindsey Graham are planning to do a victory jig mocking their Tea Party critics.

/I'm kidding, but they should do that.

121 zora  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:10:35pm

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So would it be wrong to spam their site with interracial porn?

it would be a public service or pubic service. whatever.

122 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:11:05pm

Does no one know how to be a dictator anymore?
When the going gets tough, the dictator gets on a private jet with large sums of money and retires to a nice island.
Sheesh.
/

123 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:11:29pm

re: #114 celticdragon

I just took a look at chimpout.

My God.

Worse then Stormfront. This is absolute, unapologetic evil. These are people I don't want to have on the same frakking continent as myself and my family. These are the sort of people who delivered the Zyklon B to the gates of Dachau and Bergen Belsen.

What is "chimpout"? Some racist site that compares Obama to an ape?

124 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:11:36pm

re: #122 Varek Raith

Does no one know how to be a dictator anymore?
When the going gets tough, the dictator gets on a private jet with large sums of money and retires to a nice island.
Sheesh.
/

With the Amazon guard.

125 jaunte  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:12:08pm

re: #122 Varek Raith

126 Mocking Jay  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:12:52pm

re: #122 Varek Raith

Does no one know how to be a dictator anymore?
When the going gets tough, the dictator gets on a private jet with large sums of money and retires to a nice island.
Sheesh.
/

They just don't make 'em like Idi Amin or Baby Doc anymore...

127 Mocking Jay  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:13:47pm

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

What is "chimpout"? Some racist site that compares Obama to an ape?

Chimpout makes the stalkers look like upstanding examples of humanity.

128 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:14:56pm

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

What is "chimpout"? Some racist site that compares Obama to an ape?

Never mind, I just saw Austin's #93. That's some vile shit there. Not a place my computer will ever visit. If Fox had any shame they'd take those comments down. Stuff like that is hate speech and people who post links to it are dirtbags.

129 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:15:50pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Never mind, I just saw Austin's #93. That's some vile shit there. Not a place my computer will ever visit. If Fox had any shame they'd take those comments down. Stuff like that is hate speech and people who post links to it are dirtbags.

I would be afraid of viruses. You can't just visit any old place on the web.

130 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:16:59pm

re: #127 JasonA

Chimpout makes the stalkers look like upstanding examples of humanity.

Agreed. Though after his post calling Michelle Obama 'Sasquatch', Stalker "Bob in Breckenridge" is getting close to that.

Racism is a carbuncle in the social flesh of America.

131 celticdragon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:20:00pm

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

What is "chimpout"? Some racist site that compares Obama to an ape?

You really do not want to know.

I mean it. Those people are fucking KKK idiots looking for their white sheets and nooses.

132 celticdragon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:22:40pm

Gotta sign out, scaly frinds. First day back to school tommorrow and calculus II is first out the gate. Meh.

Good night.

133 freetoken  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:28:25pm

re: #131 celticdragon

You really do not want to know.

I mean it. Those people are fucking KKK idiots looking for their white sheets and nooses.

He wrote, measuredly....

134 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:34:00pm

re: #133 freetoken

He wrote, measuredly...

I want the names of those people. I want to get their pictures and addresses out there so that all reasonable Americans have the opportunity to punch them in their mouths on sight, just on general principles.

No one should be able to hide behind a virtual veil while spewing that corruption.

Yeah, a little upset.

135 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:38:15pm

re: #19 Charles

I wonder what's become of the Colonel's female bodyguard squad?

:(

Don't want to think about it. Hope they ran for it months ago.

136 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:38:29pm

re: #134 austin_blue

I want the names of those people. I want to get their pictures and addresses out there so that all reasonable Americans have the opportunity to punch them in their mouths on sight, just on general principles.

No one should be able to hide behind a virtual veil while spewing that corruption.

Yeah, a little upset.

Upset is good in this case. We should be angry with racists for the harm they inflict on people and for poisoning our national discourse at times. And as we saw recently in Mississippi, racism can still be outright lethal.

137 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:39:11pm

Is it me or is FireFox 6 more crashy than previous versions?
Sheesh.

138 Mocking Jay  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:39:50pm

re: #137 Varek Raith

Is it me or is FireFox 6 more crashy than previous versions?
Sheesh.

Go Chrome or go home. :P

139 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:39:57pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

I hear that John McCain and Lindsey Graham are planning to do a victory jig mocking their Tea Party critics.

/I'm kidding, but they should do that.

I agree totally. Who would have thought I'd have thrown in with McCain, Graham, Krauthammer and effing Karl Rove. But I find myself pulling for them, these days. Weird! Joke's on me lol

140 jaunte  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:41:48pm

re: #134 austin_blue

Whoever this is, is making a real industry out of it.

[Link: www.who.is...]
SAMPLE OF DOMAINS USING NS1.STEPTRISSHARE.INFO
angrywhitebitch.com
chimpout.com
fedupintolerant.com
latrinejakscoon.net
steptrisshare.info
141 blueraven  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:42:53pm

WTF?

Senator John McCain of Arizona and Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, both Republicans, released a statement Sunday congratulating the Libyan people on the "end" of the Qaddafi regime. The statement also criticized the United States for not doing more to help.

This achievement was made possible first and foremost by the struggle and sacrifice of countless Libyans, whose courage and perseverance we applaud. We also commend our British, French, and other allies, as well as our Arab partners, especially Qatar and the UAE, for their leadership in this conflict. Americans can be proud of the role our country has played in helping to defeat Qaddafi, but we regret that this success was so long in coming due to the failure of the United States to employ the full weight of our airpower.

Whose apologizing now?

[Link: thelede.blogs.nytimes.com...]

142 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:43:05pm

re: #93 austin_blue

This latest wanker is beyond the pale:

"Welcome to Chimpout. A black plague is descending upon civilization. That plague is called the n*****. Here at Chimpout we provide up to the minute n***** facts and news stories that are either covered up or buried by the mainstream media. Everything you read here is the truth, gleaned from worldwide sources.

Our message is simple. n*****s are a cancer upon human society.

You will find true stories of brutal n***** rapes, murders and other anti-social behavior, along with a healthy dose of general n***** stupidity that largely go unreported by the big media outlets.

Sit back, read up and find out the true nature of the n*****, be prepared to laugh, cry and become furious as you discover the on going destruction and mayhem caused by n*****s.

We are not a white supremacist site here at Chimpout. We welcome all races, creeds, and colors...just no n*****s."

I. Am. In. Awe. Of. Teh. Evil.

(On a lighter note, will they take the Irish?)

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Never mind, I just saw Austin's #93. That's some vile shit there. Not a place my computer will ever visit. If Fox had any shame they'd take those comments down. Stuff like that is hate speech and people who post links to it are dirtbags.

You guys think that's something, you should see what they tell us right to our faces. They have never had any shame. They're just mad now because they cannot get away with running and burning down the Black part of town because someone told them a Black man looked crossed at a white. /Schadenfreude

143 Mocking Jay  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:44:50pm

re: #141 blueraven

WTF?

Whose apologizing now?

[Link: thelede.blogs.nytimes.com...]

Wow. I am shocked and stunned that they took a swipe at Obama. Shocked and stunned, I say.

144 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:45:03pm

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So would it be wrong to spam their site with interracial porn?

Are you kidding? Who do you think produces, distributes, and rakes in the bucks off of it? LOL!

145 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:46:41pm

re: #141 blueraven

WTF?

Whose apologizing now?

[Link: thelede.blogs.nytimes.com...]

McCain was never on board with letting the Europeans take the lead on Libya. It's not in his blood for the US to stand back when we have Navy aircraft in range.Some of it is political, but much of it is simply his lifelong desire to have America leading efforts to bring and defend freedom.

146 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:47:34pm

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

What is "chimpout"? Some racist site that compares Obama to an ape?

You are confusing chimpout with a typical conservative teabagger/flagwaver rally.

147 lostlakehiker  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:47:40pm

re: #68 makeitstop

The metric I've used is the Somalian pirates episode.

He handled that extremely well - all of ours ended up safe, all of theirs were either dead or in custody.

The haters were proclaiming the mission a failure mere hours after it started, and when it was over they clung to their position that Obama failed.

Those who hate him will never, ever give him credit or doing anything well.

Which makes them ankle biters. It's so stupid. Amazing they can't see how it works. Those who flunk your `Somali pirates' test don't merit the time of day.

148 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:48:14pm

re: #139 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I agree totally. Who would have thought I'd have thrown in with McCain, Graham, Krauthammer and effing Karl Rove. But I find myself pulling for them, these days. Weird! Joke's on me lol

Politics makes for strange bedfellows. And while we're on that topic, quit hogging the covers, would you?! :D

149 lostlakehiker  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:49:21pm

re: #134 austin_blue

I want the names of those people. I want to get their pictures and addresses out there so that all reasonable Americans have the opportunity to punch them in their mouths on sight, just on general principles.

No one should be able to hide behind a virtual veil while spewing that corruption.

Yeah, a little upset.

Comments that advocate violence, anybody? You're in violation of the rule. In as good a cause as you'll find, but still.

150 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:49:28pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

Politics makes for strange bedfellows. And while we're on that topic, quit hogging the covers, would you?! :D

Go sleep on the couch.
:P

151 blueraven  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:50:21pm

re: #143 JasonA

Wow. I am shocked and stunned that they took a swipe at Obama. Shocked and stunned, I say.

I am not surprised at all. Although I thought they might be a bit more subtle. But after all the crap about Obama's "apology tour" yada yada... this is supremely hypocritical and really, really stupid.

152 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:50:28pm

I'll be to bed in a few minutes, but there is an interesting question:

How will the fall of Tripoli affect the already ailing and unstable governments of Syria and Yemen.

What will the fallout be for Algeria, who supported Qaddafi?

153 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:51:44pm

re: #134 austin_blue

I want the names of those people. I want to get their pictures and addresses out there so that all reasonable Americans have the opportunity to punch them in their mouths on sight, just on general principles.

No one should be able to hide behind a virtual veil while spewing that corruption.

Yeah, a little upset.

What they need is to be shunned and locked out of polite society, like a child being put in their room until they are fit to be with other people.

154 lostlakehiker  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:52:14pm

re: #60 austin_blue

Amazing, isn't it? Never seen anything like this. Brave women.

Indeed. War reporters in general are brave. The women have one more thing to be brave about. Even the side that's celebrating and has reason to be grateful can go Tahrir Square mob on them.

155 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:52:34pm

re: #152 ProLifeLiberal

I'll be to bed in a few minutes, but there is an interesting question:

How will the fall of Tripoli affect the already ailing and unstable governments of Syria and Yemen.

What will the fallout be for Algeria, who supported Qaddafi?

I think Assad is shitting bricks.
Yemen? I'm not so sure.
Algeria? Again, not so sure.

156 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:54:07pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

Politics makes for strange bedfellows. And while we're on that topic, quit hogging the covers, would you?! :D

Dude, u take up all the pillows. So I get the covers! :p

157 b_sharp  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:56:37pm

re: #19 Charles

I wonder what's become of the Colonel's female bodyguard squad?

Check the Playboy mansion.

158 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:57:03pm

Off-topic: My Turkish friend has discovered Turkish news channels online. She just mentioned that Germany is now experiencing riots, similar to that of the recent UK riots. I can't seem to find information about this online.

Has anyone read or heard anything about rioting in Germany?

Apparently the rioting has to do with extremely high unemployment.

159 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:57:18pm

Inside Tripoli's Rixos hotel as rebels close in

First there were the children and the wives of Col Muammar Gaddafi's officials packing and leaving the five-star Rixos hotel.

The Rixos is the place where the government has obliged foreign journalists to stay when reporting on this conflict.

Over the months it became a government hangout. A place of refuge and safety for them where Col Gaddafi's information minister held regular news conferences.

Now the relatives of senior officials were going, heading presumably somewhere safer.

Then I noticed the translators we have been working with for months now had also left. So too the state television staff who have worked out of here since their headquarters were bombed by Nato.

These were ominous signs of the battle to come.

160 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:58:08pm

re: #156 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Dude, u take up all the pillows. So I get the covers! :p

Hey, I've got a big head to support. It takes a huge skull to protect a brain this powerful, sister!

161 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:58:35pm

re: #158 eclectic infidel

Off-topic: My Turkish friend has discovered Turkish news channels online. She just mentioned that Germany is now experiencing riots, similar to that of the recent UK riots. I can't seem to find information about this online.

Has anyone read or heard anything about rioting in Germany?

Apparently the rioting has to do with extremely high unemployment.



Violence breaks out after Hamburg street festival

It was a case of another year, another outbreak of violence following a popular street fair in Hamburg. Although there were arrests and injuries, the unrest this time around was described as relatively mild.

162 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:58:54pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

Hey, I've got a big head to support. It takes a huge skull to protect a brain this powerful, sister!

*Picks up pillow and whacks DF with it*

163 prairiefire  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 8:59:48pm

re: #156 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Dude, u take up all the pillows. So I get the covers! :p

Does anybody else have a "perfect pillow" problem? Trying to get a good night's sleep gets harder as you age!

164 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:00:27pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

Hey, I've got a big head to support. It takes a huge skull to protect a brain this powerful, sister!

Yea see, this is why we can only get together once a quarter. No fiscal year is big enough to accommodate both of us at the same time lol

165 reine.de.tout  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:00:37pm

re: #163 prairiefire

Does anybody else have a "perfect pillow" problem? Trying to get a good night's sleep gets harder as you age!

I found the perfect pillow. I'll send you the info.

166 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:01:25pm

You all are weird.
:)

167 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:01:30pm

re: #152 ProLifeLiberal

I'll be to bed in a few minutes, but there is an interesting question:

How will the fall of Tripoli affect the already ailing and unstable governments of Syria and Yemen.

What will the fallout be for Algeria, who supported Qaddafi?

Yemen, I can't say.

Algeria won't really notice. The now-defeated Islamist insurgencies there are still too recent for the more educated parts of the population to risk revolt.

As for Syria, I echo Varek in saying that Assad would be wise to seek out a bolthole posthaste.

168 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:03:06pm

re: #166 Varek Raith

You all are weird.
:)

[DF blinks a bit as he pulls down the pillow thrown at him.]

Hey, its just good clean fun.

169 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:03:09pm

re: #166 Varek Raith

You all are weird.
:)

Craig Owens: Has anyone ever told you that you're a bit weird?
The Doctor: They never really stop.

170 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:04:02pm

re: #167 Dark_Falcon

Still, Algeria is in the worst spot ever.

They have a Morocco who now has their suspicions about the Sahrawi movement confirmed, a tweaked Tunisia, and a badly injured Libya around them.

Algeria's gonna be doing some apologies. And that's the good case scenario.

171 prairiefire  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:05:00pm

re: #165 reine.de.tout

I found the perfect pillow. I'll send you the info.

Ah, my sister, thank you.

172 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:06:58pm

re: #170 ProLifeLiberal

Still, Algeria is in the worst spot ever.

They have a Morocco who now has their suspicions about the Sahrawi movement confirmed, a tweaked Tunisia, and a badly injured Libya around them.

Algeria's gonna be doing some apologies. And that's the good case scenario.

Agreed. I still don't see a revolt breaking out. I don't think the population is going to be willing to run the risk, given their recent history. Algeria's the only North African country to have experienced an actual Islamist insurrection. That's going to dampen the public's enthusiasm for revolution.

173 reine.de.tout  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:09:33pm

re: #171 prairiefire

Ah, my sister, thank you.

sent it to a yahoo address, I'm guessing it's still good, I've had that email addy for awhile.

174 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:09:59pm

re: #172 Dark_Falcon

This is true.

Still having 3 ticked off newly semi-democratic states around you with injuries to avenge is a bad situation.

The only nation I can think of to previously be in this situation is Serbia in the 90's (Croatia, Bosnia, and Albania pissed at Serbia). And even that was only on Serbia's West, not completely surrounding it.

175 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:12:28pm

re: #174 ProLifeLiberal

This is true.

Still having 3 ticked off newly semi-democratic states around you with injuries to avenge is a bad situation.

The only nation I can think of to previously be in this situation is Serbia in the 90's (Croatia, Bosnia, and Albania pissed at Serbia). And even that was only on Serbia's West, not completely surrounding it.

True. Serbia made its change the easy way though, and got rid of Milosovic largely without violence.

176 prairiefire  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:13:30pm

The KC Air Show went on today. This news clip interviews the Air Show's director and the decision to honor him with "missing man" formation at the start of the show.

177 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:15:44pm

re: #161 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)


Violence breaks out after Hamburg street festival

Thanks.

178 prairiefire  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:15:52pm

re: #173 reine.de.tout

Thanks, I'll check with you tomorrow. Night, lizards.

179 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:17:25pm

re: #142 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

You guys think that's something, you should see what they tell us right to our faces. They have never had any shame. They're just mad now because they cannot get away with running and burning down the Black part of town because someone told them a Black man looked crossed at a white. /Schadenfreude

Dude, really, I've been down on these morons since I can remember. If any black/brown/yellow/gay man or woman came to me and asked for support, I would have walked down any street to confront these ignorant fucks. And I would have brought a bunch of my white/black/brown/yellow/gay/straight neighbors. That's how we roll in South Austin.

We're odd that way in Texas. Obama out-polled McCain 93% to 7% in my precinct. Go figure.

180 laZardo  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:18:24pm

re: #179 austin_blue

Dude, really, I've been down on these morons since I can remember. If any black/brown/yellow/gay man or woman came to me and asked for support, I would have walked down any street to confront these ignorant fucks. And I would have brought a bunch of my white/black/brown/yellow/gay/straight neighbors. That's how we roll in South Austin.

We're odd that way in Texas. Obama out-polled McCain 93% to 7% in my precinct. Go figure.

YOU GUYS ARE THE NEW ALAMO.

/

//i think

181 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:19:11pm

re: #180 laZardo

YOU GUYS ARE THE NEW ALAMO.

/

//i think

Not to be too picky, but the defenders of the Alamo all died.

182 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:20:05pm

re: #180 laZardo

YOU GUYS ARE THE NEW ALAMO.

/

//i think

The Alamo is in San Antonio, but you're close. It's only about a 2 - 2 1/2 four drive from Austin.

183 Kronocide  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:22:10pm

Softball served up to me on Facebook:

xxxx, nothing of what you say can be proven. AGW, creation vs evolution. No matter what you believe, there comes a point where one has to take a leap of faith. It doesn't matter how strongly you believe, it can not be proven.

184 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:23:00pm

Just paged some photography from the world speed shooting championship. I covered the match for their website. And we do have (by permission) a shot of our very own Dragon_Lady running a competitor that was shooting very fast. Like 4 targets hit in well under 2 seconds. The best D_L or I could do by comparison is the same 4 down in about 2.7 seconds. The winner of this side match was 1.01 seconds.

185 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:23:10pm

re: #149 lostlakehiker

Comments that advocate violence, anybody? You're in violation of the rule. In as good a cause as you'll find, but still.

Seriously? Have you seen my #93?

Justify your position, please. When you find shit that is beyond the pale, niceties go out the the window. A punch in the mouth isn't a call to violence. It is a *subtle* response, given what these monsters truly deserve.

Bad LLH. No soup for you!

186 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:24:05pm

Honestly I haven't been paying much attention to this wave of... whatever it is... going on in the Middle East, probably because I couldn't find accurate info, and I've tuned politics out for the last year or so because it's all must made me so sick. And I felt impatient about Qaddafi, I was really hoping he'd be out sooner. But he's really on the run?

Well now sht just got interesting...

187 Robert O.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:24:19pm

Those who oppress their own people and stand on the wrong side of history:

- Nicolae Ceausescu......gone
- Saddam Hussein......gone
- Hosni Mubarak......gone
- Muammar Gaddfi......?
- Scott Walker......?

188 laZardo  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:24:59pm

re: #181 EmmmieG

Not to be too picky, but the defenders of the Alamo all died.

...that's the point.

/ D:

189 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:25:15pm

re: #181 EmmmieG

Not to be too picky, but the defenders of the Alamo all died.

And if recent scholarship is right, a number of them died running. The assaulting troops let them leave, but in a direction that took them right into waiting Mexican lancers*. But that's not a image Texas would want to remember and the account is not certain. Who would want to think that the Alamo's final defenders died, not swinging empty muskets, but ridden down and lanced by Santa Ana's cavalry.

* Santa Ana formed regiments of lancer cavalry in emulation of Napoleon's Polish lancer units. The Little Corsican's influence on military leaders in the mid-19th century was still very strong, and many was the general who sought to make himself the "Next Napoleon".

190 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:27:16pm

re: #187 Robert O.

Downding for putting Scott Walker in there. You can dislike him all you want, but he's not having people attacked, unlawfully imprisoned or killed. He in no way belongs in the same list as Middle Eastern dictators.

191 sattv4u2  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:28:23pm

re: #190 Dark_Falcon

Downding for putting Scott Walker in there. You can dislike him all you want, but he's not having people attacked, unlawfully imprisoned or killed. He in no way belongs in the same list as Middle Eastern dictators.

ditto'd

192 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:28:54pm

re: #181 EmmmieG

Not to be too picky, but the defenders of the Alamo all died.

Hence my cringe!

193 [deleted]  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:29:33pm
194 blueraven  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:29:36pm

re: #187 Robert O.

Those who oppress their own people and stand on the wrong side of history:

- Nicolae Ceausescu...gone
- Saddam Hussein...gone
- Hosni Mubarak...gone
- Muammar Gaddfi...?
- Scott Walker...?

too far.

195 sattv4u2  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:29:45pm

re: #181 EmmmieG

Not to be too picky, but the defenders of the Alamo all died.

Not to be picky, but (eventually) so did all the attackers!

:)

196 laZardo  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:31:50pm

re: #193 Pawn of the Oppressor

Whoa. A little too close there.

German Torpedoes on the other hand...

197 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:32:53pm

re: #195 sattv4u2

Not to be picky, but (eventually) so did all the attackers!

:)

All the attackers, all the defenders, and everybody that read about it in the newspapers.

198 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:33:19pm

re: #194 blueraven

too far.

Yup. Two steps over the line.

199 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:33:29pm

re: #187 Robert O.

I have something they don't.
A Death Star.
And thousands of warships.
And billions of troops.
And, ah screw it, *BOOM*
I win.
:P

200 Lidane  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:33:31pm

re: #182 Dark_Falcon

The Alamo is in San Antonio, but you're close. It's only about a 2 - 2 1/2 four drive from Austin.

Nah. It's not that far. It's about 80 miles, so depending on the traffic, I can get there in just over an hour.

201 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:33:34pm

I've been out of the loop for a while. Any word on Daffy yet? Has he been strung up by his heels in a gas station? Escaped to Uganda or Argentina? Burned by cronies in the yard behind his bunker? Inquiring minds want to know.
I sure hope he's not heading for Lubbock, though some of the Obama haters here would no doubt welcome him with open arms, especially if he brings enough loot.

202 Talking Point Detective  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:35:08pm

re: #49 lostlakehiker


To criticize a man with any effect, you have to be willing to praise the things that merit praise. Otherwise, you're not a critic, you're just a gadfly and an ankle biter.

Re-posting that for emphasis, because I really like it.

And because I'm going to "borrow" it - and I figured if I were going to borrow it, I owed you a re-post.

203 Lidane  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:35:18pm

re: #187 Robert O.

Scott Walker's an asshole, but he shouldn't be on that list. Downding.

204 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:35:26pm

re: #200 Lidane

Nah. It's not that far. It's about 80 miles, so depending on the traffic, I can get there in just over an hour.

Well, except for the speed trap in Schertz. By the way, blue raven is here in Austin. Any other lizards in town?

205 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:37:06pm

re: #196 laZardo

Whoa. A little too close there.

German Torpedoes on the other hand...

The Germans had some good midget subs, but they were too little, too late against the huge size of the UK/US fleet gathered for Operation Overlord.

206 laZardo  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:38:05pm

re: #199 Varek Raith

I have something they don't.
A Death Star.
And thousands of warships.
And billions of troops.
And, ah screw it, *BOOM*
I win.
:P

I know I probably showed this to you before but...

207 Lidane  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:39:09pm

re: #204 austin_blue

Well, except for the speed trap in Schertz.

Heh, true. And all the construction on 35 South. Blargh.

Either way, I can get there in under two hours easy. Unless some idjit stalls his car or has a wreck, in which case it's Rubberneck City on the freeway. =P

208 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:39:32pm

re: #203 Lidane

Scott Walker's an asshole, but he shouldn't be on that list. Downding.

I thought it was kind of funny, sort of like a question SNL asked about George Bush during the '88 campaign when suspicion was rife that GHWB was something of a wimp.
"Does he really have what it takes to go eyeball to eyeball with a bloodthirsty power-mad dictator, like Margaret Thatcher?"

209 sattv4u2  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:40:33pm

re: #208 Shiplord Kirel

I thought it was kind of funny, sort of like a question SNL asked about George Bush during the '88 campaign when suspicion was rife that GHWB was something of a wimp.
"Does he really have what it takes to go eyeball to eyeball with a bloodthirsty power-mad dictator, like Margaret Thatcher?"

Difference is, that was meant to be comedic

#187, not so much

210 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:43:10pm

re: #209 sattv4u2

Difference is, that was meant to be comedic

#187, not so much

Agreed. There was nothing in that post to indicate it was intended to be funny. If Robert O wishes to say that it was intended in jest, he may post and do so. Until then, I'm going to assume he meant it as he wrote it.

211 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:43:10pm

re: #199 Varek Raith

I have something they don't.
A Death Star.
And thousands of warships.
And billions of troops.
And, ah screw it, *BOOM*
I win.
:P

And faulty crystals on your rifles, and poorly engineered superweapons...

212 Sinistershade  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:44:15pm

re: #204 austin_blue

Well, except for the speed trap in Schertz. By the way, blue raven is here in Austin. Any other lizards in town?

I'm in Round Rock.

213 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:44:27pm

re: #206 laZardo

"If you strike me do..
SHUT THE FUCK UP."

Lol.

214 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:44:51pm

re: #212 Sinistershade

I'm in Round Rock.

I gave birth to two kids in Round Rock, but moved out years ago.

215 Egregious Philbin  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:45:56pm

Gaddafi and Jerry Lewis in the same month!!!!

These are great times indeed.

216 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:46:12pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon


Racism is a carbuncle in the social flesh of America.

Nominated for rotating title.

217 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:46:49pm

re: #212 Sinistershade

I'm in Round Rock.

You have my deepest sympathies, if you work in Austin. That's the commute from hell.

218 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:47:39pm

re: #211 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And faulty crystals on your rifles, and poorly engineered superweapons...

[Kragar suddenly begins gasping for breath and clutches his throat as is he was being strangled]

Varek: "I find your lack of respect for my armies annoying."

219 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:47:53pm

re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist

Nominated for rotating title.

Agreed!

220 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:47:54pm

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

[Kragar suddenly begins gasping for breath and clutches his throat as if he was being strangled]

Varek: "I find your lack of respect for my armies annoying."

221 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:48:24pm

re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist

Nominated for rotating title.

I'm up for that. In fact, I'm honored.

222 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:48:34pm

I just checked the chimpout abomination. Disgusting indeed. No doubt these soul-dead cretins think they're funny. It did have an actual funny moment, though one generated automatically on the stats box:

Members: ****
Threads: ******
Posts: ******
Top Poster: Newsbot (*****)
Welcome to our newest member, FuckWhitePeopleLikeYOU
(emphasis added)


My guess is that this newest member won't be around long.

223 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:49:07pm

re: #187 Robert O.

Those who oppress their own people and stand on the wrong side of history:

- Nicolae Ceausescu...gone
- Saddam Hussein...gone
- Hosni Mubarak...gone
- Muammar Gaddfi...?
- Scott Walker...?

Doesn't count if they can be voted out.

224 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:49:25pm

re: #187 Robert O.

Those who oppress their own people and stand on the wrong side of history:

- Nicolae Ceausescu...gone
- Saddam Hussein...gone
- Hosni Mubarak...gone
- Muammar Gaddfi...?
- Scott Walker...?

Also doesn't count if they haven't had people killed.

225 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:49:36pm

re: #222 Shiplord Kirel

Yeah, but the newest member will probably have a few laughs before getting the boot.

226 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:49:54pm

*muttergrumblemutter* Every time Firefox updates, I become more convinced that my computer hates me.

227 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:49:57pm

re: #197 EmmmieG

All the attackers, all the defenders, and everybody that read about it in the newspapers.

That was one deadly battle.

228 Mocking Jay  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:49:58pm

re: #223 SanFranciscoZionist

Doesn't count if they can be voted out.

Well Saddam could have been voted out, but 99% of the people kept electing him!!!

229 Lidane  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:50:31pm

re: #217 austin_blue

You have my deepest sympathies, if you work in Austin. That's the commute from hell.

My commute sucks. I'm close to St. Ed's and I drive to the Lakeline Mall area daily. It's almost 30 miles each way. Thank SRV that 183 is nearby and it's a straight shot. I'd probably hurt someone if I had to take Mopac or 35 every day.

230 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:50:33pm

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

[Kragar suddenly begins gasping for breath and clutches his throat as is he was being strangled]

Varek: "I find your lack of respect for my armies annoying."

[He then looks up to see if Varek fell for it, gets a case of the giggles and keeps Varek distracted while a Culexus Kill Team makes their presence known.]

231 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:50:40pm

re: #228 JasonA

Well Saddam could have been voted out, but 99% of the people kept electing him!!!

Jesus couldn't get 99 percent in an election.
:)

232 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:51:05pm

re: #227 SanFranciscoZionist

That was one deadly battle.

I meant by now. I would also add that everyone who saw Lincoln's funeral train is now dead, as well as anyone who ever met Shakespeare.

Seriously, I'm uncovering some scary conspiracies here.

233 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:51:08pm

re: #228 JasonA

Well Saddam could have been voted out, but 99% of the people kept electing him!!!

It helps when you have armed guys at the ballot box, asking "So, who did you vote for?"

234 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:51:56pm

re: #231 Varek Raith

Jesus couldn't get 99 percent in an election.
:)

That's because Jesus would not only let you choose, but keep loving you no matter who you voted for.

236 Lidane  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:52:12pm

re: #233 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It helps when you have armed guys at the ballot box, asking "So, who did you vote for?"

Sort of like the PRI in Mexico. They didn't have armed guys at the ballot box, but they might as well have. =P

237 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:52:16pm

re: #230 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

[He then looks up to see if Varek fell for it, gets a case of the giggles and keeps Varek distracted while a Culexus Kill Team makes their presence known.]

The kill team is ambushed by SD-10 Destroyer Droids and blasted into Banth hash.

238 Sinistershade  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:52:57pm

re: #217 austin_blue

You have my deepest sympathies, if you work in Austin. That's the commute from hell.

Nah, I'm work at Dell here in RR, so it's only about 10 minutes.

239 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:53:23pm
240 Sinistershade  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:53:48pm

re: #214 EmmmieG

I gave birth to two kids in Round Rock, but moved out years ago.

I haven't seen 'em, but I'll keep an eye out. /

241 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:54:11pm

re: #240 Sinistershade

I haven't seen 'em, but I'll keep an eye out. /

Thanks.

242 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:54:18pm

re: #228 JasonA

Well Saddam could have been voted out, but 99% of the people kept electing him!!!

"Only 1% of the people have cast a ballot against you! What more could your Eminence want?"

"Their names."

243 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:54:37pm

re: #239 Dark_Falcon

Forget it Varek, it's Becktown.

I know.
I just have this flaw where I must know what the hell the crazies are thinking and why.
:/

244 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:56:04pm

re: #235 Varek Raith

Beck: "We Are Leaving The Age Of Man-Made Miracles Of Space Flight And We Are Re-Entering The Age Of Miracles Of God"
Wut.

I keep wondering when Beck's gonna share whatever he's on with the rest of us.

245 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:56:08pm

re: #237 Dark_Falcon

The kill team is ambushed by SD-10 Destroyer Droids and blasted into Banth hash.

Unfortunately, the Eversors took care of those long before they were a threat. Imperial security can be ransacked by Bothans. Do you think the Inquisition would have any problems getting the information they require?

P.S. Your adjutant is a Callidus. That piercing sensation is a C'Tan Phase Blade sliding between your 3rd and 4th rib.

246 Mocking Jay  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:56:40pm

re: #235 Varek Raith

Beck: "We Are Leaving The Age Of Man-Made Miracles Of Space Flight And We Are Re-Entering The Age Of Miracles Of God"
Wut.

ummm... i dunno what he's on. I really don't. We had to stop flying into space for the almighty to get back into the miracle game? Were evil fed regulations stopping him or something?

247 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:57:24pm

re: #243 Varek Raith

I know.
I just have this flaw where I must know what the hell the crazies are thinking and why.
:/

You've got to get past that urge in this case, Varek. Not even a Sith can keep hold of his sanity within the dark pit of madness that is the Mind of Beck. If you did figure it out, the Bad Craziness would hit you with such force you'd lighting blast yourself to ashes just to be rid of it.

248 Mocking Jay  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:57:33pm

re: #245 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Unfortunately, the Eversors took care of those long before they were a threat. Imperial security can be ransacked by Bothans. Do you think the Inquisition would have any problems getting the information they require?

P.S. Your adjutant is a Callidus. That piercing sensation is a C'Tan Phase Blade sliding between your 3rd and 4th rib.

I really do suspect that you just make up every third word.

249 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:57:33pm

re: #246 JasonA

ummm... i dunno what he's on. I really don't. We had to stop flying into space for the almighty to get back into the miracle game? Were evil fed regulations stopping him or something?

Magnets.

250 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 9:57:42pm
251 laZardo  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:00:08pm

re: #249 Varek Raith

WE CAN'T STOP HERE, THIS IS JUGGALO COUNTRY

252 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:00:31pm

re: #235 Varek Raith

Beck: "We Are Leaving The Age Of Man-Made Miracles Of Space Flight And We Are Re-Entering The Age Of Miracles Of God"
Wut.

It truly would be a miracle if an idiot like Beck got to engage in spaceflight.

253 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:00:50pm

re: #245 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Unfortunately, the Eversors took care of those long before they were a threat. Imperial security can be ransacked by Bothans. Do you think the Inquisition would have any problems getting the information they require?

P.S. Your adjutant is a Callidus. That piercing sensation is a C'Tan Phase Blade sliding between your 3rd and 4th rib.

Actually, he died when my personal shielding turned his blade. I then drew my disruptor pistol and reduced him to ash. Then Varek used the Sun Crusher to supernova the star of 10 worlds of your false "empire".

254 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:02:39pm

re: #252 Shiplord Kirel

It truly would be a miracle if an idiot like Beck got to engage in spaceflight.

How does he even get out of bed in the morning and not hurt himself???
:/

255 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:03:08pm

re: #252 Shiplord Kirel

It truly would be a miracle if an idiot like Beck got to engage in spaceflight.

He could make history: The first talk show host ever to be die from decompression after being thrown out an airlock.

/I'm kidding. I don't actually wish Glenn Beck harm, i just wish he'd shut up.

256 Kronocide  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:03:54pm

re: #235 Varek Raith

Beck: "We Are Leaving The Age Of Man-Made Miracles Of Space Flight And We Are Re-Entering The Age Of Miracles Of God"
Wut.

The Evolution of Father Beck continues. It's only a matter of time before he starts a church.

257 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:04:55pm

re: #254 Varek Raith

How does he even get out of bed in the morning and not hurt himself???
:/

High paid minders. I heard he had a very close call when Martha Stewart mistook him for the Pilsbury Doughboy during a joint cooking show appearance and tried to stuff him into the oven.

258 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:09:19pm

re: #253 Dark_Falcon

Actually, he died when my personal shielding turned his blade. I then drew my disruptor pistol and reduced him to ash. Then Varek used the Sun Crusher to supernova the star of 10 worlds of your false "empire".

Shields provide no defense against a Phase Blade, as your primitive disruptor falls to the floor. Your Sun Crusher has attracted the attention of Istvaanian sect Inquisitors. Have fun with your Daemonhosts.

259 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:10:23pm

Oh brother. Good night.

260 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:11:52pm
261 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:12:24pm

re: #260 Varek Raith

Lol.
Image: Screenshot-8_10_20111_42_05PM.jpg

What's that from?

263 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:14:32pm

re: #261 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What's that from?



Supreme Ruler: Cold War

264 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:15:47pm

re: #258 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Shields provide no defense against a Phase Blade, as your primitive disruptor falls to the floor. Your Sun Crusher has attracted the attention of Istvaanian sect Inquisitors. Have fun with your Daemonhosts.

Your shields don't, but mine do! And Daemons don't mind the Sith, and no weapon wielded by an Inquistor can even dent the Sun Crushers armor. It was created molecule-by molecule and can withstand anything the whole sect can thrown at it. Then it'll appear and their home system and supernova its star.

This destruction can end at any time. Just admit your effectively dead emperor as dead and gone and proclaim Varek Raith your new emperor. Failing that, our superweapons will turn your part of space to a burned out husk!

265 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:17:27pm

re: #263 Varek Raith


Supreme Ruler: Cold War

Huh, interesting. Might have to check it out.

266 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:19:49pm

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

Your shields don't, but mine do! And Daemons don't mind the Sith, and no weapon wielded by an Inquistor can even dent the Sun Crushers armor. It was created molecule-by molecule and can withstand anything the whole sect can thrown at it. Then it'll appear and their home system and supernova its star.

This destruction can end at any time. Just admit your effectively dead emperor as dead and gone and proclaim Varek Raith your new emperor. Failing that, our superweapons will turn your part of space to a burned out husk!

How can one with such a limited understanding of the Warp claim to be worthy of being called an Emperor? No wonder the Sith can't stay in power more than a decade or so.

267 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:20:38pm

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

Your shields don't, but mine do! And Daemons don't mind the Sith, and no weapon wielded by an Inquistor can even dent the Sun Crushers armor. It was created molecule-by molecule and can withstand anything the whole sect can thrown at it. Then it'll appear and their home system and supernova its star.

This destruction can end at any time. Just admit your effectively dead emperor as dead and gone and proclaim Varek Raith your new emperor. Failing that, our superweapons will turn your part of space to a burned out husk!

You're in a good mood tonight no?

268 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:21:24pm

re: #265 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Huh, interesting. Might have to check it out.

I don't have that version yet, but I do have Supreme Ruler 2020 and its expansion back.
Fun game.

269 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:22:21pm

re: #179 austin_blue

Dude, really, I've been down on these morons since I can remember. If any black/brown/yellow/gay man or woman came to me and asked for support, I would have walked down any street to confront these ignorant fucks. And I would have brought a bunch of my white/black/brown/yellow/gay/straight neighbors. That's how we roll in South Austin.

We're odd that way in Texas. Obama out-polled McCain 93% to 7% in my precinct. Go figure.

My man, the first girl I ever kissed resides in Houston. You do not have to convince me the merits of Texas!

270 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:23:29pm

re: #268 Varek Raith

I don't have that version yet, but I do have Supreme Ruler 2020 and its expansion back.
Fun game.

Yeah, I might need something to keep me busy now that I've just finished L.A. Noire. Was hoping that Lonesome Road would be out for New Vegas this month, but no dice. .

271 blueraven  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:24:23pm

Goodnight Lizards. I'm exhausted. Helluva day, huh?

272 Winny Spencer  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:24:40pm

re: #270 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, I might need something to keep me busy now that I've just finished L.A. Noire. Was hoping that Lonesome Road would be out for New Vegas this month, but no dice. .

Deus Ex: Human Revolution will be out tomorrow. ;)

273 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:24:58pm

re: #272 Winny Spencer

Deus Ex: Human Revolution will be out tomorrow. ;)

Hmm, true...

274 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:27:19pm

re: #267 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

You're in a good mood tonight no?

I'm having fun with Kragar, and the topic of the thread is something we can all like. Hence, good times!

275 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:31:40pm

re: #274 Dark_Falcon

I'm having fun with Kragar, and the topic of the thread is something we can all like. Hence, good times!

It's like when I'm out with my friends from high school and they all speak Chinese to each other and forget I have no idea what's going on.

//

276 Varek Raith  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:34:07pm

re: #274 Dark_Falcon

I'm having fun with Kragar, and the topic of the thread is something we can all like. Hence, good times!

Good times indeed.
I'm playin Civilization IV now and I'm at war with...well, everyone.
Especially the Brits. Looking at the diplomacy screen tells me why. The main reason they hate me?

-4: "You nuked us!"

Lol. Not my fault my scouts found your main staging area!
:P

277 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:36:13pm

re: #276 Varek Raith

Good times indeed.
I'm playin Civilization IV now and I'm at war with...well, everyone.
Especially the Brits. Looking at the diplomacy screen tells me why. The main reason they hate me?

-4: "You nuked us!"

Lol. Not my fault my scouts found your main staging area!
:P

I'm watching some ST: Voyager on Netflix, just so I can complain about how bad it is from experience.

278 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:36:46pm

re: #272 Winny Spencer

Deus Ex: Human Revolution will be out tomorrow. ;)

god dammit, the one game I might drop all my work to play

279 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:37:53pm

re: #277 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm watching some ST: Voyager on Netflix, just so I can complain about how bad it is from experience.

What, did you lose a bet or something?

280 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 10:40:31pm

re: #279 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What, did you lose a bet or something?

Its background noise while I work on some projects.

281 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 11:00:10pm

Goodnight, all.

282 Kragar  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 11:17:27pm

Chavez Denounces West Over Libya

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, a staunch ally of embattled Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, slammed Western powers Sunday for "destroying Tripoli with their bombs," as rebels surged to seize control of the Libyan capital.

"Today we are seeing images of the democratic governments of Europe, along with the supposedly democratic government of the United States destroying Tripoli with their bombs," Chavez said.

283 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 11:39:16pm

re: #238 Sinistershade

Nah, I'm work at Dell here in RR, so it's only about 10 minutes.

Outstanding! I work near Parmer and I-35, so I wave at gridlock in the morning and wave at it in the PM. I usually get off of I-35 at 51st street to get to Central Market to get fresh groceries in the PM. All in all, not a bad commute.

Wish I worked in downtown, though. She Who Must Be Obeyed walks to work.

Grumble.

284 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 11:51:16pm

Argh. School has started and I'm already hella intimidated.

Argh I say!

Goodnight lizards. I may not be posting much (not that I do now) till I get my bearings again.

285 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 11:58:22pm

Okay, heading to the rack. But a feel-good story:

Just spent an hour with 5 raccoon kits. In the drought of '09 I found two starving kits (I assume their mother was killed- they were tiny and in my washer/dryer out-building). Kept them alive and released them the next spring. Didn't see them in '10, but this drought year, they showed up with their kits in July. One with two, the other with three. The kits were the size of size 12 shoes, and once the moms made nice, they climbed all over me. Tonight was wet cat food, in bowls. At one point, about fifteen minutes ago, I had ten pounds of raccoon kits sleeping in my lap. I gave them all kisses, scratched their mom's ears, and sent them on their way.

Sweet.

286 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 12:01:54am

re: #282 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Chavez Denounces West Over Libya

In the scheme of things, Chavez has a little tiny dick. Best to ignore him.

287 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 1:15:44am

Wow. Yesterday was a slow news day, huh?
Morning honcos.

288 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 1:28:55am

re: #287 Cannadian Club Akbar

Still going on. The mad dog is fighting on.


Heavy fighting was reported near Moammar Gadhafi's compound Monday as government forces launched a fightback after rebels swept into the heart of the Libyan capital and crowds took to the streets to celebrate what they saw as the end of the dictator's four decades in power.


Rebel spokesman Mohammed Abdel-Rahman said tanks emerged from the complex, known as Bab al-Aziziya, and began firing shortly after dawn.
289 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 1:34:58am

re: #288 Obdicut

Still going on. The mad dog is fighting on.

Didn't anyone offer him sanctuary?

290 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 1:36:23am

re: #282 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

There's a lesson for Ch. in there, somewhere in this situation.

291 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 1:43:12am

Reuters Live Blog.
[Link: live.reuters.com...]

292 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:03:02am

Remember the people in Florida who were mad because Crystal River decided to protect the manatees, which aren't in the bible? Well, they're gonna show the Fish and Wildlife Service what's for!!!

Humphrey would like Citrus County restaurants to serve the agency's local employees more slowly. He wants residents to turn their backs on them. He blows his car's horn when he passes the agency's office.

WTF is taking so long for my short stack!!! We give up!!
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

293 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:05:48am

re: #292 Cannadian Club Akbar

Remember the people in Florida who were mad because Crystal River decided to protect the manatees, which aren't in the bible? Well, they're gonna show the Fish and Wildlife Service what's for!!!

Humphrey would like Citrus County restaurants to serve the agency's local employees more slowly. He wants residents to turn their backs on them. He blows his car's horn when he passes the agency's office.

WTF is taking so long for my short stack!!! We give up!!
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

Is "Humphrey" one of the manatees?!?!?!

294 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:07:14am

re: #286 austin_blue

In the scheme of things, Chavez has a little tiny dick. Best to ignore him.

NTTAWWT!!

{grumble mumble grumble}

295 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:07:16am

re: #293 sattv4u2

Is "Humphrey" one of the manatees?!?!?!

I can't hear you laugh when Humphrey is honking his horn!

296 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:07:52am

Irene is now a hurricane. Or as I call it, rain.

297 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:09:20am

re: #295 Cannadian Club Akbar

I can't hear you laugh when Humphrey is honking his horn!

(after a brief Kashi commercial message ,, grumble mumble grumble)

298 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:11:19am

re: #295 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #297 sattv4u2

[Link: comedians.jokes.com...]

(after a brief Kashi commercial message ,, grumble mumble grumble)

1:32 in, btw

299 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:16:41am

re: #298 sattv4u2

I liked the Lifetime reference. "Tonight on Lifetime:Meredith Baxter gets beaten with a rod". I hate that fucking channel.

300 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:17:39am

re: #299 Cannadian Club Akbar

I liked the Lifetime reference. "Tonight on Lifetime:Meredith Baxter gets beaten with a rod". I hate that fucking channel.

Gaffigan on Waffle House

301 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:23:50am

We need a ban on windows. I'm sure congress will act fast. Unless they're a shill for Big Window.
[Link: yourlife.usatoday.com...]

302 researchok  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:26:56am

Morning, all

303 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:27:42am

re: #301 Cannadian Club Akbar

We need a ban on windows. I'm sure congress will act fast. Unless they're a shill for Big Window.
[Link: yourlife.usatoday.com...]


wouldn't it be safer to ban children instead?

304 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:32:08am

re: #303 sattv4u2

wouldn't it be safer to ban children instead?

Remember on the Simpsons when Homer and Marge tried to keep Maggie safe? Homer drew outlines to make electrical outlets look like bunnies. Marge said, "She isn't afraid of bunnies".
Homer said, "She isn't afraid yet".
Heh.

305 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:38:45am

re: #304 Cannadian Club Akbar

Remember on the Simpsons when Homer and Marge tried to keep Maggie safe?

No.
/

306 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:42:19am

re: #304 Cannadian Club Akbar

Remember on the Simpsons when Homer and Marge tried to keep Maggie safe? Homer drew outlines to make electrical outlets look like bunnies. Marge said, "She isn't afraid of bunnies".
Homer said, "She isn't afraid yet".
Heh.

At my age, even if I saw it, I wouldn't remember it!

307 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:43:40am

Skool is back in session today. The children are our future. And then they grow up. And dash all hopes.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

308 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:46:29am

re: #307 Cannadian Club Akbar

Skool is back in session today. The children are our future. And then they grow up. And dash all hopes.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

My sons school started last Monday

The county we live in started the week before that!

309 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:51:31am

re: #306 sattv4u2

At my age, even if I saw it, I wouldn't remember it!

I think I've watched all epsodes up until the last year, and often I do remember stuff like this. I wonder if it's from a newer episode.

310 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:53:04am

re: #309 Sergey Romanov

I think I've watched all epsodes up until the last year, and often I do remember stuff like this. I wonder if it's from a newer episode.

No. Older one. Now grab your quilt and enjoy your pills and pudding.
/

311 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:55:34am

re: #310 Cannadian Club Akbar

No. Older one. Now grab your quilt and enjoy your pills and pudding.
/

Shaddap, whippersnapper and bring me my teeth!

ps: I'll bite yer legs off.

312 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 3:28:22am

Geologists report finding Earth’s oldest known fossils

[Link: www.boston.com...]

They were in line for the early bird special just outside of Miami!

313 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 3:33:21am

Morning folks!

314 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 3:36:47am

re: #288 Obdicut

Still going on. The mad dog is fighting on.

I was just looking to see where he ended up going, looks like he hasn't left. What an idiot.

315 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 3:46:12am

I think I know the root cause of Pam's behavior. On this photo you can clearly see a fungus from Yuggoth attached to her upper ganglion cluster.

[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]

316 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 3:58:18am

re: #308 sattv4u2

My sons school started last Monday

Your son's Senior year, right?

317 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:03:09am

Pam's recent post in full:

Daily Death Toll in Obama's Senseless War Against .....What, Exactly?


FALLEN WARRIORS:

PFC Douglas L. Cordo, 20, of Kingston, N.Y., died Aug. 19 in Zabul, Afghanistan, of injuries sustained when enemy forces attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 24th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division, Fort Wainwright, AK.

PFC Douglas L. Cordo, 20, of Kingston, N.Y., died Aug. 19 in Zabul, Afghanistan, of injuries sustained when enemy forces attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 24th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division, Fort Wainwright, AK.

LCPL Travis M. Nelson, 19, of Pace, FL, died Aug. 18 while conducting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

PC Joshua M. Seals, 21, of Porter, OK, died Aug. 16 in Paktia province, Afghanistan, from a non-combat related incident. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 279th Infantry Regiment, 45th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, Oklahoma National Guard, Tulsa, OK.

Say what?

318 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:03:39am

Morning fellow crocoducks.

319 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:04:29am

re: #318 Varek Raith

Morning fellow crocoducks.

Hi there, cultist freek.

320 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:04:56am

re: #317 Sergey Romanov

Pam's recent post in full:

Say what?

Wow, what an opportunistic piece of .... she is.

321 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:07:22am

Watching NatGeo yesterday, they had a show about armored cars. Some had this gun in it. Pops out from the roof. 3000 rounds a minute (7.62). Cars not available in the US. Sorry.

322 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:08:05am

re: #316 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Your son's Senior year, right?

yuppers

323 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:09:26am

re: #322 sattv4u2

(virginia tech)...

324 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:10:03am

re: #323 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(virginia tech)...

(((send cash ,,, early and often)))

325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:11:44am

re: #324 sattv4u2

Oh, that out-of-state tuition's not so bad for a rich guy like you.

326 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:13:26am

re: #325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, that out-of-state tuition's not so bad for a rich guy like you.

EPSECIALLY when Uncle Fatty lets me use his address as my sons!!

327 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:14:11am

re: #325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, that out-of-state tuition's not so bad for a rich guy like you.

Satty. Heh.
Image: 21ff1_monopoly.jpg

328 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:15:37am

re: #327 Cannadian Club Akbar

Satty. Heh.
Image: 21ff1_monopoly.jpg

where the hell is my monocle!?!?

329 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:16:21am

re: #327 Cannadian Club Akbar

Satty. Heh.
Image: 21ff1_monopoly.jpg

But eventually...
Image: monopoly_man_out_of_luck.gif

330 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:16:25am

re: #327 Cannadian Club Akbar

Satty. Heh.
Image: 21ff1_monopoly.jpg

[Link: www.gamerevolution.com...]

331 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:16:55am

heh ,, ,beat me by 4 seconds

332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:18:12am

re: #326 sattv4u2

My sister-in-law worked for Hampden-Sydney College. My wife nixed the idea of letting my brother adopt my son so he'd get free tuition (the place costs 40K a year)...

333 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:20:14am

re: #332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My sister-in-law worked for Hampden-Sydney College. My wife nixed the idea of letting my brother adopt my son so he'd get free tuition (the place costs 40K a year)...

She just didn't want to have to sleep with your brother to finalize the deal!

Hell , she barely wants to sleep with YOU!

///

334 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:20:35am

re: #332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My sister-in-law worked for Hampden-Sydney College. My wife nixed the idea of letting my brother adopt my son so he'd get free tuition (the place costs 40K a year)...

I can picture her saying "no" while you stood at the front door with his luggage.:)

335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:22:34am

Early one morning, a mother went in to wake up her son.
Mom:"Wake up, son. It's time to go to school!"
Son:"But why, Mom? I don't want to go."
Mom:"Give me two reasons why you don't want to go."
Son:"Well, the kids hate me for one, and the teachers hate me, too!"
Mom:"Oh, that's no reason not to go to school. Come on now and get ready."
Son:"Give me two reasons why I *should* go to school."
Mom:"Well, for one, you're 52 years old. For another, you're the Principal"

336 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:23:06am

Actress Cindy Williams is 64

you've come a long way, baby

[Link: withfriendship.com...]

337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:23:16am

re: #333 sattv4u2

Uh... that's not how adoption works.

338 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:23:35am

re: #337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Uh... that's not how adoption works.

oh

339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:23:57am

re: #334 Cannadian Club Akbar

I can picture her saying "no" while you stood at the front door with his luggage.:)

I was completely serious.

340 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:25:52am

re: #337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Uh... that's not how adoption works.

That's a relief. For a second I thought I might be responsible for a dozen kids.

341 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:27:05am

re: #332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My sister-in-law worked for Hampden-Sydney College. My wife nixed the idea of letting my brother adopt my son so he'd get free tuition (the place costs 40K a year)...

btw ,,, how would he have gotten 'free" tuition?

Isn't HS a private, not public college

342 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:30:01am

re: #341 sattv4u2

She was an employee. Free tuition for your kids.

Perhaps you should run over to MIT and get a job! They need a man with mad "mopping" skills.

343 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:31:43am

re: #342 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

She was an employee. Free tuition for your kids.

Perhaps you should run over to MIT and get a job! They need a man with mad "mopping" skills.

ahh,,, I can see why you were serious then

Where did he (your son) end up going?

344 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:33:05am

The Out-of-State Admissions Edge
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

What’s driving this statistically significant advantage? As is so often the case with the decisions made at colleges today, it’s mainly about money.

As states continue to weather the financial crisis, they are trimming budgets. And expenditures to their prestigious state-run universities have taken a hit. Consequently, schools have consciously—and sometimes publicly—increased the number of out-of-state students, who traditionally pay higher tuition than in-state kids.

Admissions officers readily admit that the higher out-of-state tuitions help subsidize in-state kids. But admissions deans at all top colleges also seek out geographic diversity—as well as many other types of diversity beyond racial—in putting together their entering class.

“Very interesting students from outside the commonwealth enhance the educational experience for everyone,” said Greg Roberts, dean of admission at the University of Virginia. “We’re committed to serving Virginians, and we have to find that right balance.”

345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:33:26am

re: #343 sattv4u2

ahh,,, I can see why you were serious then

Where did he (your son) end up going?

Roanoke College. 35K a year.

Lots of scholarships, lot's of grants, local resident discount, lived at home... ended up costing about five grand a year.

Whew.

346 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:34:46am

re: #344 RogueOne

Hadn't thought of that.

SATTV? (virginia tech, please give money to my state)

347 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:36:11am

re: #346 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hadn't thought of that.

SATTV? (virginia tech, please give money to my state)


Okay,,, next time I'm driving through I'll make sure I gas up before I hit the border!

348 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:36:55am

‎"Behind every great man is a woman rolling her eyes."- Jim Carrey

349 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:39:28am

Just had a big slab of lemon meringue pie and a big glass of ice cold milk

350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:40:38am

re: #349 sattv4u2

Just had a big slab of lemon meringue pie and a big glass of ice cold milk

And do the cha-cha...

351 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:40:45am

re: #346 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hadn't thought of that.

SATTV? (virginia tech, please give money to my state)

He's leaning towards Auburn. If he can get about 50% of the tuition in scholarships/ grants he can go

352 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:41:27am

re: #350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And do the cha-cha...

not after that big glass of milk, thanyouverymuch

353 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:42:51am

re: #351 sattv4u2

My wife grew up in Alabama. She's War Eagles. Hates Tide.

354 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:46:28am

re: #351 sattv4u2

He's leaning towards Auburn. If he can get about 50% of the tuition in scholarships/ grants he can go

The Army will help him pay for it plus he gets to travel the world meeting new and interesting people.

355 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:46:38am

Morning, LGF peeps!

356 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:48:21am

re: #354 RogueOne

The Army will help him pay for it plus he gets to travel the world meeting new and interesting people.

A kid I worked with joined the Naval Reserves and got 20K sign on bonus. He used the money to put a twin turbo on his Cobra and buy another Mustang.

357 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:48:38am

re: #355 iceweasel

Morning, LGF peeps!

Hey, what time is it where you are?

358 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:49:44am

re: #354 RogueOne

The Army will help him pay for it plus he gets to travel the world meeting new and interesting people.

He's a lover, not a fighter

PLUS ,,, he doesn't look good in cammo

359 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:50:00am

re: #357 Alouette

Hey, what time is it where you are?

umm,,now!

360 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:52:17am

re: #356 Cannadian Club Akbar

A kid I worked with joined the Naval Reserves and got 20K sign on bonus. He used the money to put a twin turbo on his Cobra and buy another Mustang.

They're offering a ton right now, especially for re-enlistment. My buddies boy just got back from his first tour in Afghanistan and he's already looking to hook up with our old unit (which is rotating in next) so he can go back. He got a purple heart during the first tour, he wants to go back and see if he can do it without getting one the next time.

361 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:52:38am

re: #357 Alouette

Hey, what time is it where you are?

Afternoon, but I succumb to the local custom here, where it is morning. :)

Besides, you still think I was in Yurp when I met Jimmah, and I like freaking people out.

362 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:52:52am

re: #358 sattv4u2

He's a lover, not a fighter

PLUS ,,, he doesn't look good in cammo

There's always the Navy then....

363 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:53:35am

re: #359 sattv4u2

umm,,now!

My wife has a habit of setting all the clocks in the house and her car 5-10 minutes ahead. When I 1st asked why, she said it helps her be on time thinking it was 5-10 minutes later than it is

I said "well,, you set the clocks ahead so you KNOW it's not 5-10 minutes later,, AND ,,, when I look at a clock I want to know what time it IS , NOT what time it's going to be!!"

364 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:53:54am

re: #359 sattv4u2

umm,,now!

365 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:54:18am

re: #361 iceweasel

Afternoon, but I succumb to the local custom here, where it is morning. :)

Besides, you still think I was in Yurp when I met Jimmah, and I like freaking people out.

Well, you said you were in the S.O.R.O.S. seekrit lair, and I always assumed that it was somewhere in the Carpathians.

366 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:55:56am

re: #365 Alouette

Well, you said you were in the S.O.R.O.S. seekrit lair, and I always assumed that it was somewhere in the Carpathians.

Silly wabbit. There's more than one sekrit lair. We're a global thing.

367 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:56:30am

re: #354 RogueOne

The Army will help him pay for it plus he gets to travel the world meeting new and interesting people.

And kill them.

368 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:56:55am

re: #367 Decatur Deb

And kill them.

Best T-shirt ever!

369 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:57:11am

re: #366 iceweasel

Silly wabbit. There's more than one sekrit lair. We're a global thing.

Only global? There is no Death Star in outer space?

370 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:57:49am

re: #369 Alouette

Only global? There is no Death Star in outer space?

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

371 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:57:49am

re: #369 Alouette

Only global? There is no Death Star in outer space?

Varek owns that and he ain't renting.

372 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:58:11am

re: #367 Decatur Deb

re: #368 RogueOne

[Link: cheezburger.com...]

373 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:58:57am

re: #368 RogueOne

Best T-shirt ever!

No.

"24 empty tubes, mushrooms on the horizon. It's Miller time."

374 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 4:59:03am

re: #370 iceweasel

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

UPSIDE,,, with the insurance windfall Wifey wouldn't have to worry about sons college tuition!!

375 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:02:58am

re: #371 Cannadian Club Akbar

Varek owns that and he ain't renting.

Reminds me of a quote:

"If I owned Texas and I owned Hell, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas."

Who said that?

376 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:03:04am

re: #373 Decatur Deb

No.

"24 empty tubes, mushrooms on the horizon. It's Miller time."

Image: $(KGrHqV,!hkE1gNOLU+4BN,uhN!+R!~~0_3.JPG

377 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:03:41am

re: #373 Decatur Deb

No.

"24 empty tubes, mushrooms on the horizon. It's Miller time."

So submariners like really crap beer?

378 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:04:15am

re: #375 Alouette

Reminds me of a quote:

"If I owned Texas and I owned Hell, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas."

Who said that?

umm, DUH ,,,, YOU just did!!

379 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:05:14am

re: #375 Alouette

Reminds me of a quote:

"If I owned Texas and I owned Hell, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas."

Who said that?

First guess: Will Rogers
Second guess: Mark Twain

380 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:07:16am

re: #375 Alouette

Reminds me of a quote:

"If I owned Texas and I owned Hell, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas."

Who said that?

Somebody who did not like Texas?

381 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:07:57am

This is what happens when you legalize medical marijuana:

The Placenta Cookbook
[Link: nymag.com...]


Mayer, who also works as a massage therapist and doula, first became interested in placentas as a student at the University of Colorado. After reading up on the purported benefits of consuming one’s afterbirth and learning that a client was planning to try it, Mayer decided that she wanted to offer her customers placenta capsules: dried, ground afterbirth packaged into a clear pill no bigger than a regular vitamin supplement.

The technique, called encapsulation, was not widely practiced in Colorado and, until quite recently, was practically unknown on the East Coast. But Mayer found a doula who conducted training sessions with donated placentas, and started her business, Brooklyn Placenta Services, shortly thereafter.
....
“It tastes like jerky,” Doug says. “Dry, gamy, bland jerky.”

Mmmm, jerky.

382 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:08:58am

re: #381 RogueOne

Dry, gamy, bland jerky.”

redundant much !?!?

383 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:09:07am

re: #379 Decatur Deb

First guess: Will Rogers
Second guess: Mark Twain

General Philip Sheridan

384 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:09:31am

re: #379 Decatur Deb

First guess: Will Rogers
Second guess: Mark Twain

I spent a week in Texas one night./

385 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:09:52am

re: #375 Alouette

Phillip Henry Sheridan (google-fu)

He also said, “The only good Indian is a dead Indian”.

I'm going out on a limb here. He was an asshole.

386 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:09:53am

re: #383 Alouette

General Philip Sheridan

Yup, per Google:

[Link: www.4information.com...]

387 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:10:33am

re: #385 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Phillip Henry Sheridan (google-fu)

He also said, “The only good Indian is a dead Indian”.

I'm going out on a limb here. He was an asshole.

Texas is full of assholes.

388 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:10:55am

re: #382 sattv4u2

Dry, gamy, bland jerky.”

redundant much !?!?

It helps if they drink hot sauce during the pregnancy. Hot sauce and course ground pepper fixes everything.

389 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:11:09am

re: #387 Alouette

Texas is full of assholes.

If only it were limited to Texas !

390 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:12:40am

re: #388 RogueOne

It helps if they drink hot sauce during the pregnancy. Hot sauce and course ground pepper fixes everything.

My gas hedge trimmer won't start

I'll try some ground pepper on it as soon as I get home
Thanks

391 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:13:40am

re: #387 Alouette

Texas is full of assholes.

One per person. Just like Michigan, Virginia and China.

392 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:13:47am

re: #390 sattv4u2

Pepper doesn't mix well with gas, try sugar.

393 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:13:50am

re: #384 iceweasel

I spent a week in Texas one night./

Spent a grim week in Texarkana. Texas was across the street.

394 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:17:05am

re: #387 Alouette

Texas is full of assholes.

[Link: www.evtv1.com...]

395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:17:56am

re: #391 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

One per person. Just like Michigan, Virginia and China.

But Libya will soon have one less...

396 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:18:02am

Something on my fb that did not piss-me-off this am:

"The goal is to cultivate in our hearts the concern a dedicated mother feels for her child, and then focus it on more and more people and living beings. This is a heartfelt, powerful love. Such feelings give us a true understanding of human rights, that is not grounded just in legal terms, but rooted deeply in the heart." Dahli Lama

How is everyone this morning?

397 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:18:17am

re: #395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But Libya will soon have one less...

Or many more!!!

398 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:20:00am

re: #390 sattv4u2

My gas hedge trimmer won't start

I'll try some ground pepper on it as soon as I get home
Thanks

Garlice!

399 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:20:31am

re: #391 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

One per person. Just like Michigan, Virginia and China.

Anyone heard the story of the guy with two assholes?

It seems the sheriff found a "John Doe" in the ditch after a night of drinkin' shootin' and carousin' and he suspected that Earl and Billy Jim could help him identify the deceased.

Earl and Billy Jim did not recognize the dead man as their friend Bubba, but they asked the sheriff to turn him over so that they could be sure. "We'll know it's Bubba 'cause he had two assholes!"

"Two assholes!" said the sheriff. "How do you know that?"

"Everybody knows that. Wherever we would go, people would say look, there goes Bubba with them two assholes!"

400 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:21:47am

re: #395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But Libya will soon have one less...

Ladies and gentlemen, the King has left the building. I repeat, the King has left the building.

401 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:22:18am

re: #399 Alouette

Anyone heard the story of the guy with two assholes?

It seems the sheriff found a "John Doe" in the ditch after a night of drinkin' shootin' and carousin' and he suspected that Earl and Billy Jim could help him identify the deceased.

Earl and Billy Jim did not recognize the dead man as their friend Bubba, but they asked the sheriff to turn him over so that they could be sure. "We'll know it's Bubba 'cause he had two assholes!"

"Two assholes!" said the sheriff. "How do you know that?"

"Everybody knows that. Wherever we would go, people would say look, there goes Bubba with them two assholes!"

One out of every three people are assholes

SO ,,, if you look to your left, and then look to your right and don't see one ,,,,,,,

402 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:23:45am

re: #401 sattv4u2

One out of every three people are assholes

SO ,,, if you look to your left, and then look to your right and don't see one ,,,

No, I think the moral of the story is that 2 out of every 3 are assholes.

:)

403 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:26:13am

re: #402 ggt

No, I think the moral of the story is that 2 out of every 3 are assholes.

:)

I weep for humanity!

404 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:26:56am

What a fucked-up society:

Dr. Qasim says the challenge for Pakistan is to make men feel responsible for the well-being of their wives and families. He says members of the hospital staff, most of whom grew up in this area, are trying to change the attitudes in the decidedly patriarchal Pashtun society. But he says it's a delicate balance because they must not antagonize the men.

"It's a very big challenge because they would consider that as part of their honor, the men," Dr. Qasim said. "If we take the side of the women, they would not see that as someone asking for more rights for the women. They would see that as someone who is trying to decrease the rights of the men in the society."

This is beyond patriarchal, it's malignant narcissism.

405 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:29:03am

re: #404 ggt

What a fucked-up society:

Dr. Qasim says the challenge for Pakistan is to make men feel responsible for the well-being of their wives and families. He says members of the hospital staff, most of whom grew up in this area, are trying to change the attitudes in the decidedly patriarchal Pashtun society. But he says it's a delicate balance because they must not antagonize the men.

"It's a very big challenge because they would consider that as part of their honor, the men," Dr. Qasim said. "If we take the side of the women, they would not see that as someone asking for more rights for the women. They would see that as someone who is trying to decrease the rights of the men in the society."

This is beyond patriarchal, it's malignant narcissism.

It's fucked from the get go, because they want to appeal to men to take care of women, thereby reinforcing the patriarchial attitudes.

406 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:29:43am

Do Voters Even Care If a Presidential Candidate Doesn’t Believe in Evolution?
[Link: nymag.com...]

Rick Perry's dubiousness over the validity of evolution has drawn a lot of attention in the past 24 hours, but does anyone care, aside from the snobby coastal eggheads who control the liberal media? That is, will voters even hold it against Perry — or Michele Bachmann, for that matter — for willfully ignoring the scientific consensus about one of the most basic tenets of modern science? The depressing answer for the snobby coastal eggheads: Eh, kind of.

407 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:30:18am

All right: Asshole joke.
A woman was driving to work at a hospital. A cop was waiting for speeders on the other side of a bridge. He pulls the woman over for speeding. She tells him, "It's important I get to the hospital". He asks why. She said "I'm an asshole stretcher". He didn't understand, so she explained. "I put my hands inside, opening them from side to side, up and down, until it reaches a height of 6 feet". The cop asked, "What do you do with a 6 foot asshole"?
The woman replies, "Put him on the far side of a bridge with a radar gun".

408 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:30:39am

When Not To Quit: Man Revived After 96 Minutes

Although the article does not mention the man's outcome as far as mental abilities, it is still a very, very cool innovation.

I took CPR and cannot imagine the fatigue of the first responders in working on a man for 96 minutes.

kudos to them.

409 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:31:16am

re: #407 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm sending that around

410 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:31:33am

re: #405 iceweasel

It's fucked from the get go, because they want to appeal to men to take care of women, thereby reinforcing the patriarchial attitudes.

They are trying to initate change from within.

I give them credit, but I think it's an impossible job.

411 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:31:53am

re: #408 ggt

When Not To Quit: Man Revived After 96 Minutes

Although the article does not mention the man's outcome as far as mental abilities, it is still a very, very cool innovation.

I took CPR and cannot imagine the fatigue of the first responders in working on a man for 96 minutes.

kudos to them.


I hear he's now qualified to run for congress!!

412 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:33:44am

re: #396 ggt

Something on my fb that did not piss-me-off this am:

How is everyone this morning?

The thing about this quote is that we need the Dalai Lama to remind of us of what I thought was Jesus's message.

And the Christianists will dismiss it because it came from a "heathen".

413 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:33:56am

re: #410 ggt

They are trying to initate change from within.

I give them credit, but I think it's an impossible job.

You can't change within an already broken system. It's like trying to abolish slavery by accepting the reality of slavery and arguing for better working conditions for the slaves.

414 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:36:04am

re: #413 iceweasel

You can't change within an already broken system. It's like trying to abolish slavery by accepting the reality of slavery and arguing for better working conditions for the slaves.

We could always try to bomb them into proper thinking.

415 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:39:46am

Is Mo dead yet?

416 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:40:23am

I might haz job!
Huzzah!

417 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:40:46am

re: #416 Varek Raith

I might haz job!
Huzzah!

I hate you. And congrats.

418 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:40:47am

re: #407 Cannadian Club Akbar

All right: Asshole joke.

If it's going to be that kind of thread...

So this woman is teaching a class in nursing school. The topic of the day is involuntary responses. She decides to quiz her students on some of the lesser known automatic muscle reflexes. Pointing to a woman in the front row, she asks, "Do you know what your asshole does when you orgasm?" The woman replies, "Sure, he's at home with the kids."

419 RadicalModerate  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:41:00am

Just what Texas needs - another violent "patriot" loon in the state.

Armed and dangerous: FBI hunting Okla. fugitive in Sealy

An FBI manhunt is on in Sealy, west of Houston, for an Oklahoma man, believed to be heavily armed, who fled his hometown before he could be tried for sexual abuse of a child.

Agents say Charles Alan Dyer of Duncan, Okla., 31, is wanted for unlawful flight to avoid prosecution and should be considered armed and dangerous. They said he is known to be carrying multiple weapons, and local authorities in Oklahoma told media there he could have explosives with him, as well.

Reports indicated Dyer is a former Marine who claims to be part of an organization called the Oath Keepers and who has posted anti-government writings and videos on the Internet.

Dyer is known as "july4patriot" from his various YouTube anti-government postings, and was very active within the Tea Party movement before his arrest.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

420 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:41:40am

re: #415 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Is Mo dead yet?

Yes ,, since 1975!

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Curly, since '52 and Larry Fine since '75 also
!!

421 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:43:13am

re: #420 sattv4u2

Yes ,, since 1975!

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Curly, since '52 and Larry Fine ALSO since '75 also
!!

a misplaced also!
I hate when that happens

422 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:43:35am

re: #413 iceweasel

You can't change within an already broken system. It's like trying to abolish slavery by accepting the reality of slavery and arguing for better working conditions for the slaves.

"slap" drones for all! The question then becomes who gets to decide what the moral enforcement settings are for the drones.

423 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:45:57am

re: #422 oaktree

"slap" drones for all! The question then becomes who gets to decide what the moral enforcement settings are for the drones.

How do we set drones to go for patriarchial penises?

424 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:46:56am

re: #422 oaktree

"slap" drones for all! The question then becomes who gets to decide what the moral enforcement settings are for the drones.

re: #423 iceweasel

How do we set drones to go for patriarchial penises?

O_o

425 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:48:16am

re: #417 Cannadian Club Akbar

I hate you. And congrats.

You having any luck?

426 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:49:10am

re: #425 Varek Raith

You having any luck?

I've had an offer to join a circus.

427 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:50:19am

re: #426 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've had an offer to join a circus.

*Incoming sattv4u2 snark*

428 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:50:32am

re: #423 iceweasel

How do we set drones to go for patriarchial penises?

Monster Mohel would have an idea.

429 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:54:14am

We're gonna have a problem later this week.

Also, first Hurricane of the season. It's been anemic this year.

430 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:55:11am

re: #429 ProLifeLiberal

We're gonna have a problem later this week.

Also, first Hurricane of the season. It's been anemic this year.

It's been anemic for about 6-7 years.

431 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:55:49am

re: #427 Varek Raith

*Incoming sattv4u2 snark*

nahhh,,, too easy

432 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:55:59am

re: #423 iceweasel

How do we set drones to go for patriarchial penises?

Since I'm referring to drones in the sense of Iain Bank's "Culture" they could probably be set to target that. And given that they can have a sense of humor they'd probably be amused to do so.

433 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:57:49am

re: #430 Cannadian Club Akbar

With exception of 06, seasons since 2005 have been very active.

434 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 5:59:47am

re: #432 oaktree

Just don't use Mawhrin-Skel.

435 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:00:12am

re: #432 oaktree

Since I'm referring to drones in the sense of Iain Bank's "Culture" they could probably be set to target that. And given that they can have a sense of humor they'd probably be amused to do so.

That's cool. I just started Use of Weapons.

436 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:00:48am

re: #435 iceweasel

That's cool. I just started Use of Weapons.

Probably the most terrifying of all his sci-fi books.

437 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:02:03am

Is it me? Or does K-Daffy look kind of like Steven Segal?

438 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:02:13am

re: #433 ProLifeLiberal

With exception of 06, seasons since 2005 have been very active.

Active, but few made landfall.
[Link: weather.unisys.com...]

439 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:04:46am

re: #438 Cannadian Club Akbar

Active, but few made landfall.
[Link: weather.unisys.com...]

Well, now, that's a horse of a different color.

440 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:05:16am

re: #404 ggt

Dr. Qasim says the challenge for Pakistan is to make men feel responsible for the well-being of their wives and families.

I'm still freaking over this. In the "patriarchal" society in which I grew-up, Men consider the well-beings of their wives and families part of their honor. My Dad would have done ANYTHING to keep us safe and healthy.

I don't think "patriarchal" is the correct term for the way of life in Pakistan.

441 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:05:37am

re: #439 thedopefishlives

Well, now, that's a horse of a different color.

Purple?

442 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:06:18am
443 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:06:47am

re: #439 thedopefishlives

Well, now, that's a horse of a different color.

It's easier to move a ship then to move a million people.

444 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:07:09am

Seagal

Mo

Maybe I'm thinking

Mickey...

445 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:08:24am

My son from Alabama was here for the weekend with his wife and daughter for a family visit. He claimed to be a Glenn Beck fan so we argued all weekend over the Raving Freakazoid Nut Sandwich. Though I suspect my son is just a contrarian since he was an Obama supporter in '08. He also sent me this great YouTube clip of Obama and pie.

446 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:09:06am

re: #436 Obdicut

Probably the most terrifying of all his sci-fi books.

Excellent. All I've read by him before is the Wasp Factory.

447 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:09:42am

re: #442 Sergey Romanov

Wow.

[Video]

I don't think I could handle that.

448 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:09:43am

re: #443 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's easier to move a ship then to move a million people.

Which means nothing when you're inquiring about whether a hurricane season is "mild" or not. If you mean "less dangerous", then say that, because the word "mild" has an existing connotation in the weather world.

449 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:10:26am

re: #444 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Seagal

Mo

Maybe I'm thinking

Mickey...

Segal needs to lose weight --nothing worse than a wannabe martial arts actor that is fat.

450 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:10:45am

re: #419 RadicalModerate

Just what Texas needs - another violent "patriot" loon in the state.

Armed and dangerous: FBI hunting Okla. fugitive in Sealy

Dyer is known as "july4patriot" from his various YouTube anti-government postings, and was very active within the Tea Party movement before his arrest.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Ugh great, another nasty conservative child rapist. Well, better Texas than my state is all I can say.

451 lostlakehiker  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:11:52am

re: #235 Varek Raith

Beck: "We Are Leaving The Age Of Man-Made Miracles Of Space Flight And We Are Re-Entering The Age Of Miracles Of God"
Wut.

In the Persian epic poem, the Shanameh, there's a chapter where the various peoples showcase what they can do. The Greek brings a contraption. It does some clever Greek thing like tell time and chirp like a bird. Whatevah.

The Chinese, I forget. Nice, a little impressive, but not amazing.

The Persians have a for real, working, flying carpet.

452 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:12:14am

re: #449 ggt

Sumo is a martial art...

453 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:12:21am

re: #419 RadicalModerate

'Twas only a matter of time, eh.

454 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:12:24am

re: #445 Alouette

He also sent me this great YouTube clip of Obama and pie.

[Video]

Lol when Obama dorks out, it's hilarious.

455 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:12:47am

re: #450 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Ugh great, another nasty conservative child rapist. Well, better Texas than my state is all I can say.

Child-rapists belong in Hell, not Michigan, or Texas. Across the River Styx, Hell.

Although, Texas as the death penalty.

456 darthstar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:13:01am
457 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:13:11am

What's for breakfast? Gaddafi on toast? Sunny side Gaddafi? Steak and Gaddafi? Gaddafi over easy? Scrambled Gaddafi?

Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi

Klunk.

458 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:13:15am

re: #452 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sumo is a martial art...

Not so good at selling Marial Arts movies tho.

459 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:13:25am

re: #442 Sergey Romanov

I really like Goodman in non-purely-comedic roles.

460 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:13:50am

re: #457 Gus 802

What's for breakfast? Gaddafi on toast? Sunny side Gaddafi? Steak and Gaddafi? Gaddafi over easy? Scrambled Gaddafi?

Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi

[Video]Klunk.

The GKQ guy shoulda left when he could.

461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:13:53am

re: #455 ggt

Child-rapists belong in Hell, not Michigan, or Texas. Across the River Styx, Hell.

Although, Texas as the death penalty.

And we use it.
-Ron White

462 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:14:11am

re: #457 Gus 802

What's for breakfast? Gaddafi on toast? Sunny side Gaddafi? Steak and Gaddafi? Gaddafi over easy? Scrambled Gaddafi?

Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi

[Video]Klunk.

Gaddafi and chips over here!

463 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:14:13am

re: #459 Obdicut

I really like Goodman in non-purely-comedic roles.

John Goodman is a good actor. I like him a lot.

464 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:14:20am

re: #446 iceweasel

Excellent. All I've read by him before is the Wasp Factory.

Less terrifying than that, but only because the universe described is more distant.

He's one of my favorite all-time writers, and I think his books deserve to get studied at a much higher level than they are. He's addressing the central questions of human existence and making it look cool at the same time.

465 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:14:41am

re: #458 ggt

Not so good at selling Marial Arts movies tho.

"Enter The Kitchen" Starring Bruce "Sarah" Lee

466 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:15:36am

re: #464 Obdicut

Less terrifying than that, but only because the universe described is more distant.

He's one of my favorite all-time writers, and I think his books deserve to get studied at a much higher level than they are. He's addressing the central questions of human existence and making it look cool at the same time.

I read one before my Sci-Fi bent wained and I turned to reading about Rome.

It was about a girl with genetically engineered tatoos. It was cool, but didn't make me want to read the rest of the series.

467 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:15:44am

re: #462 iceweasel

Gaddafi and chips over here!

We should make a Gaddafi book of recipes. T-shirts. Flags. Books. Condoms. Etc.

//

468 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:15:47am

Mornin', my fellow lizards. So, is he toast yet or not? Inquiring minds want to know.

469 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:16:16am

re: #464 Obdicut

Less terrifying than that, but only because the universe described is more distant.

He's one of my favorite all-time writers, and I think his books deserve to get studied at a much higher level than they are. He's addressing the central questions of human existence and making it look cool at the same time.

I think you might be why I got Use of Weapons. Someone here is responsible for it anyway.

470 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:16:44am

re: #468 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Mornin', my fellow lizards. So, is he on toast yet or not? Inquiring minds want to know.

S.O.S.

471 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:16:50am

re: #466 ggt

? I think maybe that was Against a Dark Background? It's not part of the Culture series.

472 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:17:12am

re: #454 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Lol when Obama dorks out, it's hilarious.

You must have been busting a gut for the last 2 years//

473 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:17:24am

re: #471 Obdicut

? I think maybe that was Against a Dark Background? It's not part of the Culture series.

I think it was Surface Detail. Not sure tho. It was set in "The Culture"

474 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:17:52am

re: #469 iceweasel

I think you might be why I got Use of Weapons. Someone here is responsible for it anyway.

I highly recommend it all the time. A highly interesting book and character, especially for someone who lives in a country that engages in gray-area activities ostensibly for the greater good.

475 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:18:04am

re: #405 iceweasel

It's fucked from the get go, because they want to appeal to men to take care of women, thereby reinforcing the patriarchial attitudes.

It's that idiotic zero-sum mentality -- oh poor me, my natural inferiors might get the same treatment as me, which means I'm no longer their superior. This discriminates against poor little me! I see a lot of that in conservative behavior, where ever it is.

Patriarchal males, rotfl

476 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:18:19am

John Goodman was good with Denzel Washington in the Azazel movie. I can't remember the name.

477 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:18:24am

re: #468 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Mornin', my fellow lizards. So, is he toast yet or not? Inquiring minds want to know.

He went to Pakistan.

//

478 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:18:53am

re: #473 ggt

I think it was Surface Detail. Not sure tho. It was set in "The Culture"

Ah, a recent one. Haven't read it. Goodie, another to read.

If you want to really get into him, I suggest starting with Consider Phlebas or The Player of Games.

479 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:19:26am

re: #477 Gus 802

He went to Pakistan.

//

No no, Gus, wrong sack of shit. You're thinking of the other one, the one which got his head ventilated a couple months back.

/

480 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:19:31am

re: #476 ggt

John Goodman was good with Denzel Washington in the Azazel movie. I can't remember the name.

yes you did

John Goodman!!

/

481 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:19:47am

re: #475 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

It's that idiotic zero-sum mentality -- oh poor me, my natural inferiors might get the same treatment as me, which means I'm no longer their superior. This discriminates against poor little me! I see a lot of that in conservative behavior, where ever it is.

Patriarchal males, rotfl

Did you see the Matt Yglesias column for Think progress on Race and Conservatism? I paged it a couple of days ago and thought of you-- it's all about old white males crying about their loss of privilege-- oooh, poor me!

482 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:19:54am

re: #474 Obdicut

I highly recommend it all the time. A highly interesting book and character, especially for someone who lives in a country that engages in gray-area activities ostensibly for the greater good.

Maybe in the kind of patriarchal society I'm used to the sense of "self" extends to the man's family. He sees them as extensions of himself.

In the Pakistan scenerio, he see's them as "male enhancements".

483 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:20:41am

re: #476 ggt

John Goodman was good with Denzel Washington in the Azazel movie. I can't remember the name.

Fallen

484 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:22:06am

re: #476 ggt

John Goodman was good with Denzel Washington in the Azazel movie. I can't remember the name.

Master and Margarita?

///

485 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:22:08am

re: #481 iceweasel

Did you see the Matt Yglesias column for Think progress on Race and Conservatism? I paged it a couple of days ago and thought of you-- it's all about old white males crying about their loss of privilege-- oooh, poor me!

This is what I don't get.

The White Males in my world want everyone to be at their level. In some twisted sense of reality, they don't see that they have to move down a couple rungs. They want everyone else to rise a couple to make things equal.

While I admire the faith in humanity, I don't see it happening.

486 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:22:54am

re: #455 ggt

Child-rapists belong in Hell, not Michigan, or Texas. Across the River Styx, Hell.

Although, Texas as the death penalty.

Hell is for children

That filthy oat-eater skinhead can go eat a bag of butt.

487 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:23:27am

re: #484 Sergey Romanov

Master and Margarita?

///

Target Practice won the prize.

488 darthstar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:24:00am

re: #486 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Hell is for children

That filthy oat-eater skinhead can go eat a bag of butt.

Heh...you beat me to it. I always link Pat Benetar when someone mentions hell.

489 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:24:44am

re: #488 darthstar

Heh...you beat me to it. I always link Pat Benetar when someone mentions hell.

heh,, I mention my brother in law!

490 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:24:52am

If our puppy wasn't so cute . . . . . .

grrrr

491 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:25:20am

re: #488 darthstar

Heh...you beat me to it. I always link Pat Benetar when someone mentions hell.

I can understand that.

492 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:25:21am

re: #481 iceweasel

Did you see the Matt Yglesias column for Think progress on Race and Conservatism? I paged it a couple of days ago and thought of you-- it's all about old white males crying about their loss of privilege-- oooh, poor me!

I didn't, although I've heard enough of that pissing and moaning from them to bore an army to death. /Schadenfreude

493 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:26:12am

re: #488 darthstar

Heh...you beat me to it. I always link Pat Benetar when someone mentions hell.

Yeah and that song is about child abuse, too. I love Pat < 3 She's one I'd see in concert if she came out this way.

494 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:26:37am

re: #465 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Enter The Kitchen" Starring Bruce "Sarah" Lee

That's ONE.

Can you think of any more?

495 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:27:40am

I don't think we'll see true justice in this world until child-rape is considered a crime on the same level as pre-meditated murder.

It pisses me off that it isn't.

496 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:27:58am

re: #449 ggt

Segal needs to lose weight --nothing worse than a wannabe martial arts actor that is fat.

Kung Fu Panda is a bit on the hefty side.

497 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:28:47am

re: #496 oaktree

Kung Fu Panda is a bit on the hefty side.

Cartoons don't count. They are not real people.

Except Mickey.

498 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:28:49am

re: #485 ggt

This is what I don't get.

The White Males in my world want everyone to be at their level. In some twisted sense of reality, they don't see that they have to move down a couple rungs. They want everyone else to rise a couple to make things equal.

While I admire the faith in humanity, I don't see it happening.

But they don't have to move anywhere. Besides, nobody I know wants to be like them or emulate them, in any way.

499 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:28:49am

re: #492 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I didn't, although I've heard enough of that pissing and moaning from them to bore an army to death. /Schadenfreude

I think you saw it. Anyway:

It’s difficult for me to evade the conclusion that on an emotional level, conservative nostalgics like Boehner are primarily driven by regret at the loss of social privilege by white men.

Hell yeah.

500 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:29:28am

re: #498 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

But they don't have to move anywhere. Besides, nobody I know wants to be like them or emulate them, in any way.

money?

501 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:29:45am

re: #498 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

But they don't have to move anywhere.

Sure they do. They have to get the hell out of the way.

502 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:30:07am
503 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:30:38am

re: #501 iceweasel

Sure they do. They have to get the hell out of the way.

or join in.

504 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:32:09am

re: #472 RogueOne

You must have been busting a gut for the last 2 years//

Every so often, yes. I do like self-conscious dorkitude.

505 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:35:29am

Florida State Hit With Wrongful Termination Suit
Frank Stephenson says the university should have provided "reasonable accommodations" for his handicap of alcoholism, which the suit says his supervisors were aware of.

[Link: www.wctv.tv...]

For the love of Pete.

506 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:35:53am

re: #499 iceweasel

I think you saw it. Anyway:

It’s difficult for me to evade the conclusion that on an emotional level, conservative nostalgics like Boehner are primarily driven by regret at the loss of social privilege by white men.

Hell yeah.

You can't have everyone come to their level. Part of the (rich) white male social perogative is that you can do what you want, when you want to, and have everything ignored or quietly buried with few questions asked. All you need is cash.

507 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:36:23am

re: #500 ggt

money?

Hardly. Not all of them have money anyway, they just aspire to, try to act like it, or like the New Money types, wrap up their entire identity in what/who they own and what they can show off to everyone else. Personally, I find it incredibly pathological.

508 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:36:44am

re: #505 Cannadian Club Akbar

Florida State Hit With Wrongful Termination Suit
Frank Stephenson says the university should have provided "reasonable accommodations" for his handicap of alcoholism, which the suit says his supervisors were aware of.

[Link: www.wctv.tv...]

For the love of Pete.

Anything and everything is Someone Else's Problem nowadays. It really bugs me how easily people are able to invent conditions which enable them to completely dodge responsibility.

509 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:37:18am

re: #505 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have sympathy for anyone with an alcohol problem who's genuinely looking for help.

However, that person should realize that there's a big difference for being fired for behavior he engaged in while drunk, and for being fired for alcoholism.

510 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:38:06am

re: #509 Obdicut

I have sympathy for anyone with an alcohol problem who's genuinely looking for help.

However, that person should realize that there's a big difference for being fired for behavior he engaged in while drunk, and for being fired for alcoholism.

I was just getting ready to say this. I don't intend to bash alcoholism as an excuse, because it's serious; but using it as a crutch to just get your way, that's ludicrous.

511 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:38:21am

re: #506 oaktree

You can't have everyone come to their level. Part of the (rich) white male social perogative is that you can do what you want, when you want to, and have everything ignored or quietly buried with few questions asked. All you need is cash.

Yeah that makes for really amoral living. No one I know wants to live like that, not even the white males I know.

512 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:38:54am

re: #509 Obdicut

I have sympathy for anyone with an alcohol problem who's genuinely looking for help.

However, that person should realize that there's a big difference for being fired for behavior he engaged in while drunk, and for being fired for alcoholism.

I'm guessing "reasonable accommodations" means a wet bar in his office. And a cot.

513 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:39:48am

re: #506 oaktree

You can't have everyone come to their level. Part of the (rich) white male social perogative is that you can do what you want, when you want to, and have everything ignored or quietly buried with few questions asked. All you need is cash.

They don't WANT everyone at their level. They'd lose privilege.

515 kirkspencer  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:41:37am

re: #513 iceweasel

They don't WANT everyone at their level. They'd lose privilege.

True. Everyone at their level is socialism in action.

516 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:42:09am

re: #514 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Ah yes, that post. Sniveling zero-sum cons, rotfl.

Exactly, boo-fucking-hoo.

517 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:43:17am

re: #515 kirkspencer

True. Everyone at their level is socialism in action.

If 'socialism' merely means the abolishment of white male privilege, sign me up.

518 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:43:45am

re: #505 Cannadian Club Akbar

Florida State Hit With Wrongful Termination Suit
Frank Stephenson says the university should have provided "reasonable accommodations" for his handicap of alcoholism, which the suit says his supervisors were aware of.

[Link: www.wctv.tv...]

For the love of Pete.

It's his logic handicap that needs the accommodation.

I think they call that particular accommodation: Education.

519 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:44:02am

re: #494 ggt

That's ONE.

Can you think of any more?

Walker, Texas Barbecue? "Ground" Chuck Norris?

Kick"lunch"boxer? Jean Claude Van"Camps" Damme?

"Eating" Crow? Brandon "Sarah" Lee?

520 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:44:47am

re: #510 thedopefishlives

I was just getting ready to say this. I don't intend to bash alcoholism as an excuse, because it's serious; but using it as a crutch to just get your way, that's ludicrous.

I don't even think Rush tried that angle.

521 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:45:25am

re: #513 iceweasel

They don't WANT everyone at their level. They'd lose privilege.

Eh, they're just mad because they know their privileges and delusions of superiority are both unearned, and at everyone else's expense. Another reason nobody wants to be like them.

522 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:45:28am

re: #519 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Walker, Texas Barbecue? "Ground" Chuck Norris?

Kick"lunch"boxer? Jean Claude Van"Camps" Damme?

"Eating" Crow? Brandon "Sarah" Lee?

They featured SUMO?

523 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:47:32am

re: #521 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Eh, they're just mad because they know their privileges and delusions of superiority are both unearned, and at everyone else's expense.

That's precisely what they project onto others and for that reason: other groups aren't deserving and want something unearned, they claim. LOL

524 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:47:49am

re: #509 Obdicut

I have sympathy for anyone with an alcohol problem who's genuinely looking for help.

However, that person should realize that there's a big difference for being fired for behavior he engaged in while drunk, and for being fired for alcoholism.

Alcoholism is an insidous illness. The twisted logic that results from the addiction trying to maintain it's power over the individual is almost, almost as twisted as the logic our politican's use to get votes and stay in office.

525 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:48:22am

re: #522 ggt

They featured SUMO?

Yes. Yes they did.

526 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:48:50am

re: #525 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yes. Yes they did.

OK, you win.

527 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:49:57am

I got excused from Jury Duty until December! Woot!

528 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:50:19am

re: #527 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I got excused from Jury Duty until December! Woot!

Oh, well done!

529 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:50:32am

re: #505 Cannadian Club Akbar

Florida State Hit With Wrongful Termination Suit
Frank Stephenson says the university should have provided "reasonable accommodations" for his handicap of alcoholism, which the suit says his supervisors were aware of.

[Link: www.wctv.tv...]

For the love of Pete.

Unless Rehab was not offered, or they were not willing to give him the time-off for Rehab.

I can't think of any other way he could have a case.

530 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:50:55am

re: #527 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I got excused from Jury Duty until December! Woot!

You win again!!!!!

531 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:51:18am

re: #529 ggt

Unless Rehab was not offered, or they were not willing to give him the time-off for Rehab.

I can't think of any other way he could have a case.

He'll try to pull the Americans with Disabilities Act card.

532 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:51:27am

I have to clean my desk and work on a ledger that is 3 months behind.

I don't want to.

533 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:52:47am

re: #531 Cannadian Club Akbar

He'll try to pull the Americans with Disabilities Act card.

That angle won't work in court. Addiction, although a mental illness, is not a Named Disability.

Did he get a lawyer to work on this or is he trying to do it all by his drunken self?

534 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:54:38am

re: #533 ggt

That angle won't work in court. Addiction, although a mental illness, is not a Named Disability.

Did he get a lawyer to work on this or is he trying to do it all by his drunken self?

Doesn't say if he has a lawyer.

535 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:54:40am

re: #528 thedopefishlives

Oh, well done!

It's a shame that we have to choose between paying our mortgages and our civic duties. But, we do.

I'd serve if required by a judge. But as a commissioned salesperson; I'd be damaged if I were selected to be on a jury for more than a week.

Although, as a middle aged (assuming I live to be a hundred) white guy, I'd probably not make it through voir dire anyway.

536 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:55:23am

reasonable accomodations for a drunk would be a 2 hour workday. Really?

How productive was he able to be?

537 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:55:44am

Cop: "Sir, you're slurring your words".
Drunk: "No I'm not. I'm talking in cursive".
//

538 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:55:47am

Gus 802 is a stinking commie-- don't believe anyone who tells you otherwise.

539 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:56:36am

re: #538 iceweasel

Gus 802 is a stinking commie-- don't believe anyone who tells you otherwise.

Indeed I am! Care to buy a "Che Gus" t-shirt?

540 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:57:07am

re: #535 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's a shame that we have to choose between paying our mortgages and our civic duties. But, we do.

Unfortunately, yes. And your situation is worse than mine; as a consultant, I'd probably be able to make some arrangement with my employer and with my client to get the time off and not be unduly financially damaged by the situation (and make a little on the side for serving, to boot). A salesman on commission, not so much.

541 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:57:32am

re: #535 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Since most crimes are committed by white men, you'd generally get selected for on a jury.

542 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:57:43am

re: #539 Gus 802

Indeed I am! Care to buy a "Che Gus" t-shirt?

I want a free one, dammit. What kinda commie are you?

543 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 6:58:16am

re: #542 iceweasel

I want a free one, dammit. What kinda commie are you?

Well, you'll have to wait in line for a really long time.

Even tho you'll be the only one there.

544 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:00:28am

Q"daffy is still on the loose? I thought for sure we'd have a corpse or a captive by this morning.

545 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:00:31am

re: #541 Obdicut

Since most crimes are committed by white men, you'd generally get selected for on a jury.

dammit!

At voir dire...,
FBV: Is the death penalty available for this case?
Atty: It is a malpractice lawsuit, sir.
FBV: My question stands, sir.

546 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:01:37am

re: #545 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just tell them you believe in Jury Nullification and they'll kick you off. Or that you think minimum sentencing guidelines are unconstitutional.

547 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:02:36am

re: #546 Obdicut

Just tell them you believe in Jury Nullification and they'll kick you off. Or that you think minimum sentencing guidelines are unconstitutional.

Or walk in with a human head in a bowling ball bag.

548 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:02:46am

I was called for jury duty once. I sat in a room for 3 hours, read my book and was told I wasn't needed. I think I even got paid something for it. I can't remember.

549 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:03:04am

re: #547 Cannadian Club Akbar

Or walk in with a human head in a bowling ball bag.

That only works in Mexico.

550 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:03:18am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area, which is finally drying out after a soggy weekend.

Khadafi is still MIA, but the rebel groups are closing in on his compound and consolidating their gains around Tripoli. More than 1,000 people have been killed in recent days as the fighting has intensified, but if Khadafi quits Libya, then the bloodshed could come to an end quickly. Problem is that I doubt Khadafi would do that; he's probably still convinced that he could win out over the rebels. He'd rather see his loyalists fight to the last man than give up, except that the rebels appear capable of accommodating that endgame.

Meanwhile, folks down in FL should take precautions as Hurricane Irene meanders through the heart of Carribean, after hitting Puerto Rico. It's set to hit the Dominican Republic and could hit Haiti before swiping the FL coast.

Oh, and the kassams keep hitting Israel despite another purported hudna by the terror groups in Gaza.

551 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:04:12am

re: #546 Obdicut

Just tell them you believe in Jury Nullification and they'll kick you off. Or that you think minimum sentencing guidelines are unconstitutional.

Careful with that- D_L was bounced from a couple criminal selections as a person with law enforcement training, and got sent to civil court, got stuck on a long insurance co vs car accident victim with a sprained neck. Two weeks instead of a quick criminal trial.

552 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:04:23am

re: #544 Killgore Trout

Q"daffy is still on the loose? I thought for sure we'd have a corpse or a captive by this morning.

The CIA has him in custody and they're saving him for you so you can waterboard him.

//

553 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:05:35am

re: #546 Obdicut

Judges don't like smart asses on voir dire, and they may think you're purposefully trying to get out of cases, and they'll instead send you to another panel, and one that would be far more lengthy or complicated.

554 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:06:03am

re: #552 Gus 802

The CIA has him in custody and they're saving him for you so you can waterboard him.

//

I'm still giggling.

555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:06:39am

re: #552 Gus 802

Fucker's a coward. Waterboarding wouldn't be necessary. We'd threaten to give him "SUCH A PINCH!" He'd sing like a canary.

Now, for purely entertainment purposes we could let some Libyans at him.

He's never done a thing to me; other than harm man-kind.

556 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:07:31am

re: #554 iceweasel

I'm still giggling.

Looked at Gus's nekkid photo again, did ya!?!?

557 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:08:02am

re: #553 lawhawk

My honest answers would probably get me off of an important jury.

I know, I know. There are no unimportant juries, just unimportant jurors.

558 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:08:12am

re: #555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fucker's a coward.

I am reminded of when we bombed Libya the first time. He practically threw himself at us in an attempt to give us whatever we wanted, just to get us to leave him alone. He's an utter wimp. I'm surprised he's managed this long.

559 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:08:40am

re: #558 thedopefishlives

I am reminded of when we bombed Libya the first time. He practically threw himself at us in an attempt to give us whatever we wanted, just to get us to leave him alone. He's an utter wimp. I'm surprised he's managed this long.

It was the all-girl guard that kept him safe.

560 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:09:00am

re: #555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fucker's a coward. Waterboarding wouldn't be necessary. We'd threaten to give him "SUCH A PINCH!" He'd sing like a canary.

Now, for purely entertainment purposes we could let some Libyans at him.

He's never done a thing to me; other than harm man-kind.

Maybe they can waterboard him using pee instead of water? We can call it "golden shower waterboarding."

//

561 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:09:07am

re: #555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fucker's a coward. Waterboarding wouldn't be necessary. We'd threaten to give him "SUCH A PINCH!" He'd sing like a canary.

Now, for purely entertainment purposes we could let some Libyans at him.

He's never done a thing to me; other than harm man-kind.

And screw up an entire continent. I can probably count the few people I actively hate on on hand, if it's even that many. His name would be at the top.

562 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:09:35am

re: #539 Gus 802

Indeed I am! Care to buy a "Che Gus" t-shirt?

Is gambling and other amoral activities legal in Los CheGus? We bet they are...

;)

563 The Left  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:09:53am

re: #556 sattv4u2

Looked at Gus's nekkid photo again, did ya!?!?

Yes, it's a very perverted flower. /

564 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:11:00am

re: #558 thedopefishlives

He was more than willing to throw other people's lives in order for him to save his own. This is no different. He's only out to save his own hide, and thinks that he can still win out. He's working in a different reality than everyone else, but he's also playing from the dictator's handbook, which says that all other lives are expendable to save your own.

565 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:11:23am

re: #560 Gus 802

Hey, some people pay good money for that. ///

566 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:12:14am

re: #565 lawhawk

Hey, some people pay good money for that. ///


ewwwwwwwwwww!

GKQ would probabably be one.

567 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:13:13am

re: #565 lawhawk

Hey, some people pay good money for that. ///

call 1-900-GETPISSEDON

568 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:13:57am

I'm going to go back to bed because *someone* woke me up early this morning by howling. Then the other dogs decided to join in and create a chorus.

I keep telling them they are spaniels, not hounds or wolves, but they don't seem to care.

569 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:14:15am

re: #567 sattv4u2

call 1-900-GETPISSEDON

Is that the number for the IRS?

570 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:14:40am

re: #568 ggt

I'm going to go back to bed because *someone* woke me up early this morning by howling. Then the other dogs decided to join in and create a chorus.

I keep telling them they are spaniels, not hounds or wolves, but they don't seem to care.

I'm sorry

Next time, I'll just snore!

571 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:14:49am

re: #569 ggt

Nice.

572 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:15:04am

re: #564 lawhawk

He was more than willing to throw other people's lives in order for him to save his own. This is no different. He's only out to save his own hide, and thinks that he can still win out. He's working in a different reality than everyone else, but he's also playing from the dictator's handbook, which says that all other lives are expendable to save your own.

Yeah, dictators in general are paranoid wimps. I know that I say that and there's still people like Bashar Assad out there who play tough, but honestly, Assad's balls are firmly in the hands of his military and police and he knows it. If the protesters were to break them the way the Libyan protesters did, I have no doubt he'd be quaking in his boots too.

573 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:15:19am

re: #569 ggt

Is that the number for the IRS?

No,,

Thats 1-888-URSCREWED

574 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:15:57am

later all

Have a fun morning.

575 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:16:31am

re: #573 sattv4u2

No,,

Thats 1-888-URSCREWED

I think it would be a 900 number. They will charge you every way they can.

576 darthstar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:16:50am

re: #567 sattv4u2

call 1-900-GETPISSEDON

upding for your familiarity with 900 numbers

577 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:21:36am

re: #576 darthstar

upding for your familiarity with 900 numbers

I have a phone
I have credit cards
I'm a MALE

YOU do the math!!

578 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:24:48am

re: #575 ggt

I think it would be a 900 number. They will charge you every way they can.

Nahhh,,, no charge to lure you innocently in!

579 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:27:44am

re: #553 lawhawk

Judges don't like smart asses on voir dire, and they may think you're purposefully trying to get out of cases, and they'll instead send you to another panel, and one that would be far more lengthy or complicated.

It worked for me. I'm a "conscientious objector" and as far as I know I've been permanently removed from their list.

580 darthstar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:32:57am

McCain and Graham crawl out of their cocoon to call Obama a failure in Libya

Americans can be proud of the role our country has played in helping to defeat Qaddafi, but we regret that this success was so long in coming due to the failure of the United States to employ the full weight of our airpower.

Fuck you, McCain. You lost in 2008 and you don't get to make the big decisions. Get over it. Obama was right in protecting innocent lives by measured push-back of Qadaffi's forces.

581 blueraven  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:37:36am

re: #580 darthstar

McCain and Graham crawl out of their cocoon to call Obama a failure in Libya

Americans can be proud of the role our country has played in helping to defeat Qaddafi, but we regret that this success was so long in coming due to the failure of the United States to employ the full weight of our airpower.

Fuck you, McCain. You lost in 2008 and you don't get to make the big decisions. Get over it. Obama was right in protecting innocent lives by measured push-back of Qadaffi's forces.

Apologizing for America! Assholes.

582 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:37:39am

re: #580 darthstar

McCain and Graham crawl out of their cocoon to call Obama a failure in Libya

Fuck you, McCain. You lost in 2008 and you don't get to make the big decisions. Get over it. Obama was right in protecting innocent lives by measured push-back of Qadaffi's forces.

And he was right to let NATO take as large a role as it did, so for once America wasn't stuck having to play "world police" and suffering all the consequences alone.

583 Lidane  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:38:24am

Morning, Lizards! It's Monday, and I think Rick Perry just set a land speed record for flip-flopping:

Just One Week Into His Campaign, Rick Perry Disavows His Nine-Month-Old Book

584 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:38:24am

re: #580 darthstar

McCain and Graham crawl out of their cocoon to call Obama a failure in Libya

Fuck you, McCain. You lost in 2008 and you don't get to make the big decisions. Get over it. Obama was right in protecting innocent lives by measured push-back of Qadaffi's forces.

Yes, yes, John, we know. America could have gone in there and won it in a week. Then spent another 10+ years putting it back together on our dime. *rolls eyes*

585 Lidane  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:39:39am

re: #584 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yes, yes, John, we know. America could have gone in there and won it in a week. Then spent another 10+ years putting it back together on our dime. *rolls eyes*

But we'll be greeted as liberators! And the Libyan people will gladly pay for it, just like the Iraqis have opened their wallets to us.

///

586 blueraven  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:41:14am

re: #583 Lidane

Morning, Lizards! It's Monday, and I think Rick Perry just set a land speed record for flip-flopping:

Just One Week Into His Campaign, Rick Perry Disavows His Nine-Month-Old Book

Heh-

Perry now expects the country to believe that his entire book was not intended to be a factual statement.

587 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:42:59am

re: #580 darthstar

McCain and Graham crawl out of their cocoon to call Obama a failure in Libya

Fuck you, McCain. You lost in 2008 and you don't get to make the big decisions. Get over it. Obama was right in protecting innocent lives by measured push-back of Qadaffi's forces.

Rather odd considering that the GOP gave Obama such a hard time about this. Including bringing up the War Powers Act and putting it to a vote. And not matter how one feels about the whole deal it's working and it's not really a failure considering that an end to the conflict is well within reach. A failure because we didn't "employ the full weight of our airpower"? If you combine all of the airpower involved it probably exceeded what we could have contributed alone. I imagine what the GOP wanted was for us to just carpet bomb Libya. Or something. No sense in trying to figure it out. McCain is an old SOB prone to irrationality and Graham is a snake. This is just an excuse to take a jab at Obama.

588 Lidane  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:44:17am

re: #587 Gus 802

I imagine what the GOP wanted was for us to just carpet bomb Libya the entire Middle East.

FTFY

589 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:48:24am

re: #582 publicityStunted

And he was right to let NATO take as large a role as it did, so for once America wasn't stuck having to play "world police" and suffering all the consequences alone.

Guess that's what it's been about all along. The Republican complaining that is. They're just pissed off that we didn't act unilaterally and instead worked with NATO and... OMG... the French! We have attained victory by becoming surrender monkeys to the FRENCH!!11ty Victory through surrender! We allowed the EUROPEANS to control our forces! We're all gonna die!!11ty

Whew.

590 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:49:19am

re: #553 lawhawk

Judges don't like smart asses on voir dire, and they may think you're purposefully trying to get out of cases, and they'll instead send you to another panel, and one that would be far more lengthy or complicated.

Well, in my case, both statements would be true.

I don't actually feel it would be necessary to tell anyone about 'em, but if asked directly, I'd answer.

591 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:49:45am

re: #580 darthstar

McCain and Graham crawl out of their cocoon to call Obama a failure in Libya

Fuck you, McCain. You lost in 2008 and you don't get to make the big decisions. Get over it. Obama was right in protecting innocent lives by measured push-back of Qadaffi's forces.

They have eggs/omelettes mentality.

592 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:49:55am

re: #589 Gus 802

Having allies is for pussies. That's why we won WWII all by ourselves.

593 steve_davis  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:49:55am

"There are countries that specialize in providing havens for problematic suddenly-deposed Maximum Leaders."

There's the Fletcher Memorial Home for Incurable Tyrants and Kings. The only problem is that Reagan likes to eat other people's food out of the fridge. But I'm told Idi Amin tosses one helluva salad.

594 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:49:59am

re: #589 Gus 802

Guess that's what it's been about all along. The Republican complaining that is. They're just pissed off that we didn't act unilaterally and instead worked with NATO and... OMG... the French! We have attained victory by becoming surrender monkeys to the FRENCH!!11ty Victory through surrender! We allowed the EUROPEANS to control our forces! We're all gonna die!!11ty

Whew.

Is this the part where I freakout???
/

595 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:51:38am

re: #584 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yes, yes, John, we know. America could have gone in there and won it in a week. Then spent another 10+ years putting it back together on our dime. *rolls eyes*

D'oh! Yep. Do it the Republican way. First claim there are WMDs in Libya. Then proceed to bomb Tripoli day and night. Kill 100,000 civilians or more. Than claim a) that we will be greeted as liberators and b) declare "Mission Accomplished". While you're at it. Give the rebels billions of dollars in cash. Set up a puppet press and a puppet government. Then, spend the next 10 years rebuilding the country that you bombed the hell out of in which you called a "Shock and Awe" campaign.

Derp.

596 Lidane  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:51:50am

re: #592 Obdicut

Having allies is for pussies. That's why we won WWII all by ourselves.

Heh.

597 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:52:52am

re: #592 Obdicut

Having allies is for pussies. That's why we won WWII all by ourselves.

That's right! Especially on the Eastern Front. Plus, everyone knows it was all American troops that landed in Normandy.

//

598 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:53:42am

re: #587 Gus 802

Rather odd considering that the GOP gave Obama such a hard time about this. Including bringing up the War Powers Act and putting it to a vote. And not matter how one feels about the whole deal it's working and it's not really a failure considering that an end to the conflict is well within reach. A failure because we didn't "employ the full weight of our airpower"? If you combine all of the airpower involved it probably exceeded what we could have contributed alone. I imagine what the GOP wanted was for us to just carpet bomb Libya. Or something. No sense in trying to figure it out. McCain is an old SOB prone to irrationality and Graham is a snake. This is just an excuse to take a jab at Obama.

What they wanted was what all the armchair generals promised them 6 months ago. You know, when every "expert" was predicting that the rebels could win it in a matter of days if Obama committed us to it. How, with a few airstrikes, we could crush his army and "help" the rebels win it all? How they had victory within their grasp, but then Obama "hesitated," and Gaddafi was able to regroup?

You know, kind of like how they expected Iraq would be quick, painless, and only cost us a couple hundred billion, which Iraq would pay back.

599 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:55:18am

re: #598 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What they wanted was what all the armchair generals promised them 6 months ago. You know, when every "expert" was predicting that the rebels could win it in a matter of days if Obama committed us to it. How, with a few airstrikes, we could crush his army and "help" the rebels win it all? How they had victory within their grasp, but then Obama "hesitated," and Gaddafi was able to regroup?

You know, kind of like how they expected Iraq would be quick, painless, and only cost us a couple hundred billion, which Iraq would pay back.

Yeah. What were we thinking. We should always run our policy as dictated to us by the military geniuses at Red State, Black Five, and Ace of Spades.

//

600 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:55:49am

I hate to run, but I gotta get some work done, so that I at least look like I'm earning my wages. BBL

601 bratwurst  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:56:39am

re: #591 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

They have eggs/omelettes mentality.

Same here...woke up starving!

602 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:58:30am
Another son, Saadi, has been captured by rebels, the NTC has told Al Arabiya TV
603 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 7:59:54am

re: #602 Killgore Trout

Is there any photo evidence of any Kaddafis really captured?

604 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:00:22am

re: #599 Gus 802

Yeah. What were we thinking. We should always run our policy as dictated to us by the military geniuses at Red State, Black Five, and Ace of Spades.

//

Yeah, if we did that, the rest of the world would be a smoking crater because, "Who needs anyone else anyway? We're freakin' America!"/

605 Big Steve  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:00:41am

So I have wondering where the Russian oil industry is at regarding Libya? They are big there and Putin has been supporting Daffy for a long time.

606 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:01:31am

re: #605 Big Steve

So I have wondering where the Russian oil industry is at regarding Libya? They are big there and Putin has been supporting Daffy for a long time.

Russia abandoned Kaddafi pretty much in the beginning - was it February? I think then.

607 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:03:16am

re: #603 Sergey Romanov

Is there any photo evidence of any Kaddafis really captured?

Al Jazeera TV (the one thats broadcast from/to the middle east) has live video of Tripoli (i'm at work and seeing it off our Europe/ Middle East dish for a client)

I can't understand or read Arabic, but there have been a number of photos of Daffy and sans from time to time

608 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:03:23am

The GOP is just pissed off because Haliburton didn't get a no-bid contract to do NATO's laundry at 100 bucks a load.

//

609 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:04:30am

re: #607 sattv4u2

There have been claims of this or that son captured but no photos - what with all the cell phones and stuff. Is there any hard confirmation, or is this all just propaganda bluff?

610 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:04:57am

Although I bet Haliburton will show up sooner or later.

611 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:05:38am

re: #603 Sergey Romanov

The ICC is apparently negotiating with the Libyan National Council over getting custody of one of the sons, so it appears that the ICC knows that at least one of 'em are being held by the rebels.

612 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:06:07am

re: #609 Sergey Romanov

There have been claims of this or that son captured but no photos - what with all the cell phones and stuff. Is there any hard confirmation, or is this all just propaganda bluff?

don't know yet, myself

As I stated, I have the Mid East Al Jazeera feed up now, but the audio as well as the crawl is all in Arabic

613 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:06:41am

re: #606 Sergey Romanov

Russia abandoned Kaddafi pretty much in the beginning - was it February? I think then.

I remember them making some noise about it in the beginning but yeah, didn't hear much from them after that.

614 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:07:02am

re: #599 Gus 802

Yeah. What were we thinking. We should always run our policy as dictated to us by the military geniuses at Red State, Black Five, and Ace of Spades.

//

That sounds like a poker hand that should be folded, not bet "all in" on.

615 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:07:21am

re: #611 lawhawk

The ICC is apparently negotiating with the Libyan National Council over getting custody of one of the sons, so it appears that the ICC knows that at least one of 'em are being held by the rebels.

Maybe, maybe not. I would think a video of a captured Kaddafi would be a propagandistic boon, so I'm uneasy about the lack of any info.

616 Big Steve  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:07:35am

re: #606 Sergey Romanov

Russia abandoned Kaddafi pretty much in the beginning - was it February? I think then.

Looking at last week's world wide production numbers right now and Gazprom was still producing hard out of Libya. They may have appeared to abandon Kaddafi but they didn't help or call for his ouster.

617 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:08:37am

re: #612 sattv4u2

don't know yet, myself

As I stated, I have the Mid East Al Jazeera feed up now, but the audio as well as the crawl is all in Arabic

((btw ,,,, been doing this job for over 12 years now, and even though we do a lot of feeds to/from the mid east, I STILL can't get used to the crawl going from left to right, instead of the other way)

618 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:10:13am

re: #617 sattv4u2

((btw ,,, been doing this job for over 12 years now, and even though we do a lot of feeds to/from the mid east, I STILL can't get used to the crawl going from left to right, instead of the other way)

Buy a mirror.

619 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:10:27am

re: #618 Cannadian Club Akbar

Buy a mirror.

I stand on my head

620 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:10:58am

re: #618 Cannadian Club Akbar

Buy a mirror.

LAST time I did that, 7 years bad luck

No thanks

621 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:12:23am

re: #617 sattv4u2

Silly, you hit "reverse", not "play"!

622 blueraven  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:12:28am

Did McCain and Lindsay bow a little to Gaddafi here?

623 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:13:46am

re: #611 lawhawk

The ICC is apparently negotiating with the Libyan National Council over getting custody of one of the sons, so it appears that the ICC knows that at least one of 'em are being held by the rebels.

Why do I have the feeling that for the last month or so the Colonel has been at a palatial estate on the southern coast of Sardinia!?!?!?

624 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:14:01am

re: #616 Big Steve

Looking at last week's world wide production numbers right now and Gazprom was still producing hard out of Libya. They may have appeared to abandon Kaddafi but they didn't help or call for his ouster.

1. Russia didn't block the UN resolution.

2. Medvedev condemned Kaddafi unequivocally, called him a political corpse etc.

3. Russian diplomats held talks with both sides, but with the express understanding (announced publicly) that Libya's future is without Kaddafi.

4. The calls for Kaddafi to leave were loud and explicit, e.g. in May Medvedev once again called Kaddafi to go away. Just these days - yesterday or so - Konstantin Kosachev - who is an official mouthpiece - reiterated that Kaddafi is done for.

So the official Russian response to the Lybia situation has been uncharacteristically liberal and sane.

625 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:15:15am

re: #624 Sergey Romanov

Political Corpse would be a great name for a band.

626 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:15:24am

re: #621 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Silly, you hit "reverse", not "play"!

DOH!

627 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:17:23am

re: #617 sattv4u2

((btw ,,, been doing this job for over 12 years now, and even though we do a lot of feeds to/from the mid east, I STILL can't get used to the crawl going from left to right, instead of the other way)

that's because you didn't have to go to Hebrew School

628 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:20:11am

re: #627 _RememberTonyC

that's because you didn't have to go to Hebrew School

I once had a Hebrew National hot dog while IN school,,, does that count!?!?

629 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:20:41am

re: #628 sattv4u2

I once had a Hebrew National hot dog while IN school,,, does that count!?!?

How does it differ from just a hot dog?

630 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:21:41am

re: #629 Sergey Romanov

How does it differ from just a hot dog?

It's made by God.

631 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:22:38am

re: #609 Sergey Romanov

There have been claims of this or that son captured but no photos - what with all the cell phones and stuff. Is there any hard confirmation, or is this all just propaganda bluff?

It's hard to tell with the fog of war and all. Stuff from the rebels, reported on Arab media and repeated on twitter should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

632 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:23:00am

re: #630 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's made by God.

I still prefer Hebrew National's original marketing campaign, "We answer to a higher authority." This "Better than a hot dog hot dog" business just isn't anywhere near the same.

633 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:23:47am

re: #631 Killgore Trout

It's hard to tell with the fog of war and all. Stuff from the rebels, reported on Arab media and repeated on twitter should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

That's what I think too. We may root for their side, but just because of that doesn't mean we have to accept their claims without verification.

634 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:24:52am

re: #629 Sergey Romanov

How does it differ from just a hot dog?

Instead of being in a bun, it's in a yamaka

635 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:24:52am

re: #632 thedopefishlives

I still prefer Hebrew National's original marketing campaign, "We answer to a higher authority." This "Better than a hot dog hot dog" business just isn't anywhere near the same.

Remember the commercial with the guy at the beach? God says, "Here's one for your wife". Nice.

636 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:25:49am

re: #317 Sergey Romanov

Pam's recent post in full:

Say what?

Being driven by hate is no fun.

637 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:27:22am

re: #636 Dark_Falcon

Being driven by hate is no fun.

Being driven somewhere by my wife is even less so!

638 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:27:48am

re: #634 sattv4u2

Instead of being in a bun, it's in a yamaka

Had to look that up. Turned out it is a distortion of yarmulke.

639 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:28:17am

Hell yeah...

640 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:28:24am

re: #638 Sergey Romanov

Had to look that up. Turned out it is a distortion of yarmulke.

It's for distorted hot dogs

641 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:29:21am

Jack Layton, Canadian opposition leader, dies aged 61

Canadian opposition leader Jack Layton has died after a second bout of cancer, aged 61.

Layton passed away at his home in Toronto early on Monday surrounded by his wife and children, his family said in a statement.

His left-leaning New Democratic Party (NDP) surged to become the official opposition for the first time in May's federal elections.

He stepped down only last month as party leader to fight his illness...

642 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:29:24am

re: #638 Sergey Romanov

Had to look that up. Turned out it is a distortion of yarmulke.

Reminds me of an old episode of 'All In The Family' where Archie referred to it as a 'yamaha.'

643 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:29:39am

Um, guys? I don't get it. Several months ago I noticed how user "Reuters Middle East Watch" was seeking out user aigle's Camera posts and downdinging them. I see the same thing now:

-1Link rated by: Reuters Middle East Watch

Link: Photo Tilt at the NYT

644 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:30:43am

re: #628 sattv4u2

I once had a Hebrew National hot dog while IN school,,, does that count!?!?

yes .... it earns you the title of honorary Jew

645 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:31:11am

re: #643 Sergey Romanov

Um, guys? I don't get it. Several months ago I noticed how user "Reuters Middle East Watch" was seeking out user aigle's Camera posts and downdinging them. I see the same thing now:

-1Link rated by: Reuters Middle East Watch

Link: Photo Tilt at the NYT

If I have half a shit, I'd downding both of them. They just use the Pages for spamming links without even an excerpt to get a thread going.

646 Big Steve  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:31:36am

re: #624 Sergey Romanov

Wonder why the Russian oil industry is fretting so bad then.....[Link: blogs.aljazeera.net...]

647 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:31:42am

re: #629 Sergey Romanov

How does it differ from just a hot dog?

it's circumcised

648 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:32:16am

re: #622 blueraven

Short answer, no. McCain wants Gaddafi gone to the extent of actually going to Benghazi himself (a trip more dangerous than most Congressional trips, you will agree). He wanted America to do more, but Gaddafi being ousted is to McCain and Graham a good thing period.

649 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:32:29am

re: #645 Alouette

If I have half a shit, I'd downding both of them. They just use the Pages for spamming links without even an excerpt to get a thread going.

LOL, yeah, you said almost the same thing several months ago when I pointed this out. I just don't get why RMEW would ding another pro-Israel user.

650 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:32:54am

re: #647 _RememberTonyC

*ding ding ding*

651 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:34:59am

Seems like there's direct confirmation of at least one son:

[Link: english.aljazeera.net...]

So I'm ready to believe Saif was captured too.

652 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:36:03am

re: #648 Dark_Falcon

Short answer, no. McCain wants Gaddafi gone to the extent of actually going to Benghazi himself (a trip more dangerous than most Congressional trips, you will agree). He wanted America to do more, but Gaddafi being ousted is to McCain and Graham a good thing period.

They were just looking for another reason to grandstand their bellyaching about the Obama administration (in that link from #580). I don't think either gives much of a crud, either way.

653 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:39:19am

re: #646 Big Steve

Wonder why the Russian oil industry is fretting so bad then...[Link: blogs.aljazeera.net...]

This is just an opinion of one guy. I think that the partial reason why Russia was so pronouncedly anti-K was to appease the rebels. It may or may not have worked, we'll see.

654 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:40:39am

I wonder what the rebels think of that al megrahi guy who was released by scotland b/c he was dying?

I have no idea if the rebels will end up being friendly or unfriendly to our interests, but I am in favor of them prevailing. as another arab despot falls, it HAS to raise the morale of those in syria trying to oust the butcher assad, and his ouster is an even bigger deal than Khadafy if it happens.

And if that syrian domino falls, the hope is that the big enchilada (iran) will be even more isolated and eventually the mullahs will have their turn.

655 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:42:19am

re: #654 _RememberTonyC

He was terminal. I'm sure he's dead already.
/

656 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:44:37am

re: #654 _RememberTonyC

I wonder what the rebels think of that al megrahi guy who was released by scotland b/c he was dying?

That's an interesting question. The opinion about him in Libya is that he is really innocent / was set up, so whatever opinion they have on him doesn't mean that they like murderers or something. That said, the case against Megrahi was so absolutely weak (hinging on a testimony of an unreliable witness) that I can safely say that I've seen no hard, credible evidence of his guilt (after reading the judgment and what not). I would even hypothesize that he was released exactly because he was undergoing a second appeal process at the time, and some old evidence against him had already been discredited, so in principle the second process could set him free. And as a part of his release he was required to abandon his appeal, which might have saved some people some embarassment.

657 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:44:57am

re: #655 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He was terminal. I'm sure he's dead already.
/

He's no Francisco Franco!

658 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:45:51am

re: #654 _RememberTonyC

I wonder what the rebels think of that al megrahi guy who was released by scotland b/c he was dying?

I have no idea if the rebels will end up being friendly or unfriendly to our interests, but I am in favor of them prevailing. as another arab despot falls, it HAS to raise the morale of those in syria trying to oust the butcher assad, and his ouster is an even bigger deal than Khadafy if it happens.

And if that syrian domino falls, the hope is that the big enchilada (iran) will be even more isolated and eventually the mullahs will have their turn.

Frankly, I hope the rebels just shoot him out of hand. He's still a terrorist loon and too dangerous to leave alive.

659 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:47:52am
660 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:47:57am

re: #656 Sergey Romanov

That's an interesting question. The opinion about him in Libya is that he is really innocent / was set up, so whatever opinion they have on him doesn't mean that they like murderers or something.

true, but if it is possible to get a read on that (which is pretty unlikely), it might give some insight into whether their basic orientation is "pro" or "anti" west.

661 garhighway  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:48:17am

re: #657 _RememberTonyC

He's no Francisco Franco!

I read somewhere that Franco is going to be holding a summit meeting with Chou En Lai.

662 Lidane  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:48:35am

I can't wait to see how Crazy Pam and the rest of the nutjobs react to this:

PHOTOS: Libyans Applaud President Obama And International Allies With Large Thank You Sign

663 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:48:53am

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

664 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:48:58am

re: #658 Dark_Falcon

Frankly, I hope the rebels just shoot him out of hand. He's still a terrorist loon and too dangerous to leave alive.

You would say this about his alleged partner Fhimah too, since he was in custody for years on the (flawed) intelligence and was accused by the very same prosecutors who accused Megrahi of being his partner in terror. During the trial turned out he had a firm alibi. Oops! So the court had no choice but so set him free. If he didn't have this alibi - by chance - he would be just another "terrorist".

665 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:49:46am

re: #662 Lidane

I can't wait to see how Crazy Pam and the rest of the nutjobs react to this:

PHOTOS: Libyans Applaud President Obama And International Allies With Large Thank You Sign

Creeeeeeeeeeeping shariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiia

666 Lidane  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:50:27am

Also, Donald Trump is still a gigantic tool:

Donald Trump Warns Libyan Rebels Will Be ‘Richer’ Than Americans If We Don’t Steal Their Oil

And some people took him seriously for POTUS? LOL forever.

667 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:50:34am

re: #658 Dark_Falcon

Frankly, I hope the rebels just shoot him out of hand. He's still a terrorist loon and too dangerous to leave alive.

do you expect that to happen?

668 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:50:35am

re: #662 Lidane

I can't wait to see how Crazy Pam and the rest of the nutjobs react to this:

PHOTOS: Libyans Applaud President Obama And International Allies With Large Thank You Sign

Blah blah blah super-sekrit Muslim blah blah Muslim menace. Did that about cover it?

/Thank you, I'll be here all week

669 jaunte  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:51:04am

re: #662 Lidane

Debbie Schlussel is on the case:
Obama’s ICE: “Libyan Students in US Can Now Take American Jobs – Bend Over”
(google cache link)

670 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:51:06am

re: #662 Lidane

I can't wait to see how Crazy Pam and the rest of the nutjobs react to this:

PHOTOS: Libyans Applaud President Obama And International Allies With Large Thank You Sign

She's gonna -- do her usual freakout. She's not a big fan of Susan Rice, I think. I believe the word "Islamist" will be used, as well as the phrase "Muslim Brotherhood".

671 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:51:30am

re: #659 thedopefishlives

"Ensign? Bring my brown trousers."

672 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:51:37am

re: #661 garhighway

I read somewhere that Franco is going to be holding a summit meeting with Chou En Lai.

with music by the Grateful Dead?

673 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:52:25am

re: #662 Lidane

I can't wait to see how Crazy Pam and the rest of the nutjobs react to this:

PHOTOS: Libyans Applaud President Obama And International Allies With Large Thank You Sign

Wow. That's gonna leave a mark. Susan Rice alongside Obama. I can see the exploding wingnut heads from here already.

674 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:55:12am

re: #667 _RememberTonyC

do you expect that to happen?

I don't know what will happen.

675 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:55:30am

re: #669 jaunte

Debbie Schlussel is on the case:
Obama’s ICE: “Libyan Students in US Can Now Take American Jobs – Bend Over”
(google cache link)

Ugh. To me, she's worse than Geller (whose rants at least provide unintentional comedy from time to time. Schlussel doesn't even have that dubious distinction).

676 garhighway  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:56:26am

re: #672 _RememberTonyC

with music by the Grateful Dead?

Expected topic of conversation: Spanish rice.

677 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:56:46am

re: #669 jaunte

Debbie Schlussel is on the case:
Obama’s ICE: “Libyan Students in US Can Now Take American Jobs – Bend Over”
(google cache link)

I'm just going to call her a heinous bitch and leave it at that.

678 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:56:50am

re: #674 Dark_Falcon

I don't know what will happen.

that's kind of the overall theme these days ..... "we really DON'T know what will happen in that region." Hope for the best and plan for the worst.

679 jaunte  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:56:58am

Oops.

Why The US Will NEVER Intervene in Libya
-- John Ellis

Checking his twitter feed, nothing much on Libya today...
[Link: twitter.com...]

680 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:57:22am

re: #662 Lidane

I can't wait to see how Crazy Pam and the rest of the nutjobs react to this:

PHOTOS: Libyans Applaud President Obama And International Allies With Large Thank You Sign

Another image...

Image: 999x.jpg

Freak out begins in 3, 2, 1...

681 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:57:46am

re: #676 garhighway

Expected topic of conversation: Spanish rice.


good one

682 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 8:58:17am

re: #680 Gus 802

Another image...

Image: 999x.jpg

Freak out begins in 3, 2, 1...

Men take part in Friday prayers behind a banner honoring U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice, British Prime Minister David Cameron, France's President Nicolas Sarkozy and U.S. President Barack Obama, at the main square of the rebel-held town of Benghazi, Libya, Friday, Aug. 12, 2011.

683 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:00:26am

Megrahi trial stank to high heaven, it's just a fact.

A bit about the evidence:

The Sunday Times of 23 October 2005 reported that Lord Fraser of Carmyllie, who drew up the 1991 indictment against the two accused Libyans and issued warrants for their arrest, had now cast doubt upon the reliability of the main prosecution witness, Tony Gauci. Lord Fraser criticised the Maltese shopkeeper for inter alia being "not quite the full shilling" and an "apple short of a picnic".

This is about the witness without whom there would have been no case. Would you be ready to convict a man on a say-so of a man who was not quite the full shilling and an apple short of a picnic?

More:

Former Mebo employee, Ulrich Lumpert, confirmed that as an electronics engineer he had produced all of the firm's MST-13 timers. Lumpert agreed that the fragments shown to him in court "could be" from that timer and was asked to confirm his signature on a letter concerning a technical fault with the prototype MST-13 timer. The trial was then adjourned until 12 July 2000.

On 18 July 2007 Lumpert admitted he had lied at the trial.[12] In a sworn affidavit before a Zurich notary, Lumpert stated that he had stolen a prototype MST-13 timer PC-board from Mebo and gave it without permission on 22 June 1989, to "an official person investigating the Lockerbie case".[13] Dr Hans Köchler, UN observer at the Lockerbie trial, who was sent a copy of Lumpert's affidavit, said: "The Scottish authorities are now obliged to investigate this situation. Not only has Mr Lumpert admitted to stealing a sample of the timer, but to the fact he gave it to an official and then lied in court".

Also:
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Two key figures in the conviction of the Lockerbie bomber were secretly given rewards of up to $3m (£1.9m) in a deal discussed by Scottish detectives and the US government, according to legal papers released today.

The claims about the payments were revealed in a dossier of evidence that was intended to be used in an appeal by Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, the Libyan convicted of murdering 270 people in the bombing of Pan Am flight 103 in 1988.

Megrahi abandoned his appeal last month after the Libyan and Scottish governments struck a deal to free him on compassionate grounds because he is terminally ill with prostate cancer. Now in hospital in Tripoli, Megrahi said he wanted the public to see the evidence which he claims would have cleared him.

Sorry, not buying it.

bbl

684 Lidane  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:00:51am

re: #680 Gus 802

Another image...

Image: 999x.jpg

Freak out begins in 3, 2, 1...

Oh, man. That one should be good enough for Pam to really bring the exclamation points and poor spelling.

685 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:01:25am

re: #680 Gus 802

Another image...

Image: 999x.jpg

Freak out begins in 3, 2, 1...

Preparing for more conservative frothing at the mouth. Can't wait, ugh.

686 blueraven  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:01:48am

re: #648 Dark_Falcon

Short answer, no. McCain wants Gaddafi gone to the extent of actually going to Benghazi himself (a trip more dangerous than most Congressional trips, you will agree). He wanted America to do more, but Gaddafi being ousted is to McCain and Graham a good thing period.

Well I saw a little head tip or bow, if you will, by McCain. They were cozying up to Gaddafi 2 years ago.
I dont doubt that they think his ouster is a good thing, nor do I question their patriotism. But I do see that they seem a little, oh what's the word?..Butthurt! Yeah, that's it.

687 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:03:04am

Allahpundit bitching and moaning back in April:

I’m not sure what the point of this is, unless they’re simply out to do damage control amid reports that O’s vaunted multinational coalition is running into predictable multilateral problems. The one kinda sorta newsy bit is that they’re making regime change an overt goal of the mission, which they acknowledge isn’t authorized by the UN resolution. But since there’s no sustainable outcome that leaves Qaddafi in power and since Obama’s been saying for weeks that his departure is now official U.S. policy, hey — they’re not going to sweat the small stuff.

...

We’ll pass the 30-day mark on the mission this week, the halfway point in the time allotted by the War Powers Act for the president to seek authorization from Congress. Imagine if that issue comes to a head in the middle of May, right when the debt ceiling armageddon is upon us.

...

So as long as the president commits U.S. servicemen to action under an international umbrella — even one, like NATO, that’s basically a subsidiary of the United States — he doesn’t need Congress’s approval? That’s a neat wrinkle in Article II power.

688 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:03:04am

re: #682 Gus 802

Men take part in Friday prayers behind a banner honoring U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice, British Prime Minister David Cameron, France's President Nicolas Sarkozy and U.S. President Barack Obama, at the main square of the rebel-held town of Benghazi, Libya, Friday, Aug. 12, 2011.

The other one listed the photos from right to left, as would be done in Arabic, so Obama is really first, I think. But if Pam thinks Rice is first, it will only enhance the freakout.

689 Lidane  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:03:28am

re: #668 thedopefishlives

/Thank you, I'll be here all week

How's the veal?

Oh, wait. Don't tell me. I forgot I don't like veal. Heh.

690 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:03:31am

re: #662 Lidane

I can't wait to see how Crazy Pam and the rest of the nutjobs react to this:

PHOTOS: Libyans Applaud President Obama And International Allies With Large Thank You Sign

That it was a Mooselim-Socialist set-up and shows that Obama is a sekrit Islamist sympathizer of course.
//

691 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:04:14am

re: #688 wrenchwench

The other one listed the photos from right to left, as would be done in Arabic, so Obama is really first, I think. But if Pam thinks Rice is first, it will only enhance the freakout.

I love it. I have to admit. I love doing what I can to get wingnuts to freak. It's almost become a hobby of mine.

692 RadicalModerate  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:05:11am

I get the feeling that comments on FoxNews' story about Maxine Waters criticism of Tea Partiers is going to be closed soon. It's even more of a racist cesspool than normal for them.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

ipdaily Just now in reply to unbawebabull
NIGGRS!!!
Just like their leader...
OBAMA!!!

oldguy63 28 minutes ago
Shouldn't Aunt Ester be home making gorilla cookies.

happy2ride 26 minutes ago
She's just mad because an evolutionist told her she is the missing link.

GatorJim123 22 minutes ago in reply to happy2ride
Apes should be offended.

ih8teliberals 25 minutes ago
Just another stupid s p o o k running her ghetto mouth! Only Calimexico would put someone like that in office!

These are just from the first page that came up, and there's already more than a dozen on that same page that have been flagged or deleted.

693 Lidane  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:05:19am

re: #688 wrenchwench

The other one listed the photos from right to left, as would be done in Arabic, so Obama is really first, I think.

He is, since, as you said, the listing is done as it would be in Arabic.

The freakouts will be hilarious. Can't wait.

694 Winny Spencer  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:05:27am

re: #687 Gus 802

He must be so proud of being a shill for Salem Communications.

695 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:05:52am

re: #686 blueraven

Well I saw a little head tip or bow, if you will, by McCain. They were cozying up to Gaddafi 2 years ago.
I dont doubt that they think his ouster is a good thing, nor do I question their patriotism. But I do see that they seem a little, oh what's the word?..Butthurt! Yeah, that's it.

It's just partisanship and positioning. Graham is facing a very tough nomination fight, as the Tea Party hates him. So Graham and McCain need to take care to snipe at Barack Obama and backbite him. If they were to praise Obama, Graham would be done.

As it is, he's got a very tough road. South Carolina has always been a very socially conservative state, all the way back to before the Revolution.

696 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:07:33am

re: #662 Lidane

What sign! //////// It's a plant!!!!!!

It's a prop!! /////

697 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:07:48am

re: #691 Gus 802

I love it. I have to admit. I love doing what I can to get wingnuts to freak. It's almost become a hobby of mine.

I'm right with you in the Schadenfreude Contingent!

Thing is, it doesn't take much to freak them out, since they go around looking for things to freak out at.

Dumb self-loathing wingnuts lol

698 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:08:18am

re: #680 Gus 802

Another image...

Image: 999x.jpg

Freak out begins in 3, 2, 1...

I seem to recall photos from the wire services back around 2003 when they were pulling down all the statues of Saddam, of happy Iraqis kissing photos of George W. Bush. Or were those all staged?
//

699 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:08:25am

Another older photo. From the 11th.

Image: 999x.jpg

Libyans stroll by the American flag installed in the square in the rebel-held Benghazi, Libya, Friday, July 15, 2011.

Boom! An American flag flying in the middle of Muslim country. :)

700 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:09:02am

re: #692 RadicalModerate

I get the feeling that comments on FoxNews' story about Maxine Waters criticism of Tea Partiers is going to be closed soon. It's even more of a racist cesspool than normal for them.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

These are just from the first page that came up, and there's already more than a dozen on that same page that have been flagged or deleted.

and with words like that, those commentators prove themselves worse than Waters, by a long mile. They start with her skin color and end with the fact she's being "uppitty". No better thought than you'd find in South Carolina 100 years ago.

701 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:09:02am

re: #692 RadicalModerate

I get the feeling that comments on FoxNews' story about Maxine Waters criticism of Tea Partiers is going to be closed soon. It's even more of a racist cesspool than normal for them.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

These are just from the first page that came up, and there's already more than a dozen on that same page that have been flagged or deleted.

Great, just what I needed at 9AM.

But yep, they're cons.

702 Lidane  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:09:09am

re: #696 lawhawk

What sign! /// It's a plant!!!

It's a prop!! ///

It's clearly Photoshopped. LAYERZ ZOMG!

703 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:09:16am

re: #698 Alouette

I seem to recall photos from the wire services back around 2003 when they were pulling down all the statues of Saddam, of happy Iraqis kissing photos of George W. Bush. Or were those all staged?
//

Got me. I was thinking about looking back.

704 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:09:33am

re: #700 Dark_Falcon

and with words like that, those commentators prove themselves worse than Waters, by a long mile. They start with her skin color and end with the fact she's being "uppitty". No better thought than you'd find in South Carolina 100 years ago.

Lol you sound surprised.

705 blueraven  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:10:06am

re: #695 Dark_Falcon

It's just partisanship and positioning. Graham is facing a very tough nomination fight, as the Tea Party hates him. So Graham and McCain need to take care to snipe at Barack Obama and backbite him. If they were to praise Obama, Graham would be done.

As it is, he's got a very tough road. South Carolina has always been a very socially conservative state, all the way back to before the Revolution.

So I guess the President was right. Party/Politics over Country. Even in foreign affairs. Got it!

706 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:10:08am

re: #699 Gus 802

Another older photo. From the 11th.

Image: 999x.jpg

Libyans stroll by the American flag installed in the square in the rebel-held Benghazi, Libya, Friday, July 15, 2011.

Boom! An American flag flying in the middle of Muslim country. :)

Posted at Daylife on the 11th that is.

707 Lidane  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:10:44am

re: #700 Dark_Falcon

No better thought than you'd find in South Carolina 100 years ago.

You don't have to go back that far. Last week would work, too.

There are still a bunch of ignorant, racist motherfuckers in this country.

708 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:12:10am

re: #704 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Lol you sound surprised.

I'm not, and in fact I expected it. Disgusted is more like what I'm feeling. I've grown up thinking America had gotten past that kind of racist bile. I've come to realize that parts of our society haven't and seeing their hate disgusts me.

709 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:13:13am

re: #662 Lidane

I can't wait to see how Crazy Pam and the rest of the nutjobs react to this:

PHOTOS: Libyans Applaud President Obama And International Allies With Large Thank You Sign

Nice!

710 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:13:48am

re: #699 Gus 802

Another older photo. From the 11th.

Image: 999x.jpg

Libyans stroll by the American flag installed in the square in the rebel-held Benghazi, Libya, Friday, July 15, 2011.

Boom! An American flag flying in the middle of Muslim country. :)

Very cool.

711 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:13:58am

re: #705 blueraven

So I guess the President was right. Party/Politics over Country. Even in foreign affairs. Got it!

It is what it is. Lindsey Graham has two choices:Either go after President Obama, or be labeled a RINO. He wants to keep his Senate seat, so he chose the former.

712 Lidane  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:14:30am

re: #699 Gus 802

Another older photo. From the 11th.

Image: 999x.jpg

Libyans stroll by the American flag installed in the square in the rebel-held Benghazi, Libya, Friday, July 15, 2011.

Boom! An American flag flying in the middle of Muslim country. :)

CREEPING SHARIA!

713 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:16:23am

re: #707 Lidane

You don't have to go back that far. Last week would work, too.

And, one need not travel all the way to South Carolina for it, either. Conservative pearl-clutching on this issue is hilarious.

714 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:17:31am

re: #4 Killgore Trout

Noticeably absent were the leftist idiots who showed up to be human shields for Saddam. Even George Galloway didn't stick his neck out for Q"Daffy. Western Lefties learned their lesson.

The situations are quite different.

715 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:19:11am

re: #708 Dark_Falcon

I'm not, and in fact I expected it. Disgusted is more like what I'm feeling. I've grown up thinking America had gotten past that kind of racist bile. I've come to realize that parts of our society haven't and seeing their hate disgusts me.

Welcome to being a numerical minority in America, who have never had the luxury of being sheltered from their hate.

716 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:19:44am

I'm going to help out a friend. I may not be back here today. But I'll be back tomorrow at the latest. Play nice!

717 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:20:02am
718 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:21:10am

re: #714 wozzablog

The situations are quite different.

Not really. Lefty loons still support Hamas but I think the far left senses that the days of authoritarian dictators in the Muslim world is nearing the end. They never were a viable counterweight to Western imperial neo-colonialism anyways.

719 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:21:41am

re: #662 Lidane

I can't wait to see how Crazy Pam and the rest of the nutjobs react to this:

PHOTOS: Libyans Applaud President Obama And International Allies With Large Thank You Sign

Loved him in Egypt too......

Image: Egypt-Yes_We_Can_Too-110201.jpg

720 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:23:02am
721 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:23:51am

Image: 999x.jpg

Splodey heads in 3, 2, 1...

722 jaunte  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:24:44am

Lame Reaching Dept.:
This morning's Drudge/conservative blogger Obama outrage/fingerpoint
is about Michelle Obama "giving her husband The iPod Treatment,"
(listening to her iPod, rather than conversing) all based on this Reuters photo:
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

723 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:24:51am

re: #721 Gus 802

Image: 999x.jpg

Splodey heads in 3, 2, 1...

The man behind the guy in the foreground looks like he is draped in an American flag?

724 Lidane  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:25:55am

re: #721 Gus 802

Image: 999x.jpg

Splodey heads in 3, 2, 1...

SEEKRIT MOOSLIM KENYAN USURPER SUPPORTS CREEPING SHARIA IN FRONT OF WHITE HOUSE!!! MALCOM X LOVE CHILD BETRAYS REAL MURIKA ALL OVER AGAIN!!!

/Geller

725 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:25:58am

re: #723 Gus 802

The man behind the guy in the foreground looks like he is draped in an American flag?

Answer my own questions. Yep.

Image: 999x.jpg

726 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:26:24am

Breaking News from Canada:

Jack Layton, Canadian Leader of the Opposition, dies of cancer at the age of 61.

:(

727 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:26:41am

I wish I had the time to HDR photos like this guy. It's a pretty amazing image showing NYC from day into night, including the Tribute in Light for 9/11 and was composited from hundreds of photos over a 24 hour span:
[Link: flavorwire.com...]

The rest of his collection is here.

728 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:27:47am

re: #718 Killgore Trout

Not really. Lefty loons still support Hamas but I think the far left senses that the days of authoritarian dictators in the Muslim world is nearing the end. They never were a viable counterweight to Western imperial neo-colonialism anyways.

Libya doesn't really count as the Muslim world to most in Europe, it's a North African state. Theres an invisible line separating the North African including throwing in Syria and Iraq states, with despots borne of anti-colonial heritage and the Emirates.
Saddam and Gaddafi are/were both secular dictators.

The Libyan uprising is a "popular" one - and if theres anything the left remains about it's the power of the people, the worker class. Gaddafi massacred his middle class and educated types and left a rump of unemployed undereducated people with axes to grind.

Not to rehash Iraq - but the intervention of NATO forces in Libya was clearly of a completely different evidential magnitude.

729 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:29:12am

re: #725 Gus 802

Answer my own questions. Yep.

Image: 999x.jpg

And the Libyan flags are on the ground. What if they'd used a US flag as a prayer mat? I can't imagine what would have happened...

730 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:30:02am

re: #728 wozzablog

NATO was on the ground in Iraq.

In Libya, NATO was air and sea support. We became an air force and navy for them by proxy.

731 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:30:16am

re: #724 Lidane

/Geller

No doubt the wingnuts who were just saying it was a NATO conflict will go back to saying it was "Obama's" US military conflict which was done not to spread "freedom and democracy" but to help world Islamists to take over the world!!11ty

732 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:31:06am

Here's more on Megrahi, the detailed press release of the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission which permitted the second appeal (prevented by the release):

[Link: www.sccrc.org.uk...]

However, in examining one of the grounds, the
Commission formed the view that there is no reasonable basis in the
trial court’s judgment for its conclusion that the purchase of the items
from Mary’s House, took place on 7 December 1988. Although it was
proved that the applicant was in Malta on several occasions in
December 1988, in terms of the evidence 7 December was the only
date on which he would have had the opportunity to purchase the
items. The finding as to the date of purchase was therefore important
to the trial court’s conclusion that the applicant was the purchaser.

[...]

New evidence not heard at the trial concerned the date on which the
Christmas lights were illuminated in the area of Sliema in which Mary’s
House is situated. In the Commission’s view, taken together with Mr
Gauci’s evidence at trial and the contents of his police statements, this
additional evidence indicates that the purchase of the items took place
prior to 6 December 1988. In other words, it indicates that the
purchase took place at a time when there was no evidence at trial that
the applicant was in Malta.

Additional evidence, not made available to the defence, which indicates
that four days prior to the identification parade at which Mr Gauci
picked out the applicant, he saw a photograph of the applicant in a
magazine article linking him to the bombing. In the Commission’s view
evidence of Mr Gauci’s exposure to this photograph in such close
proximity to the parade undermines the reliability of his identification of
the applicant at that time and at the trial itself.

Other evidence, not made available to the defence, which the
Commission believes may further undermine Mr Gauci’s identification
of the applicant as the purchaser and the trial court’s finding as to the
date of purchase.

So there it is - it was not proven beyond the reasonable doubt that Megrahi was the Lockerbie bombing.

733 zora  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:32:07am

re: #729 wrenchwench

if they used a us flag as a prayer mat then the people who already hate them would continue to hate them. that's about all.

734 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:32:08am

re: #731 Gus 802

No doubt the wingnuts who were just saying it was a NATO conflict will go back to saying it was "Obama's" US military conflict which was done not to spread "freedom and democracy" but to help world Islamists to take over the world!!11ty

Moozlum brutherhuuuuuuuud!!!

735 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:32:42am

re: #730 ProLifeLiberal

NATO was on the ground in Iraq.

In Libya, NATO was air and sea support. We became an air force and navy for them by proxy.

used evidential to mean the evidentiary basis for being there.

The evidence for being in Libya was of a greater magnitude than for Iraq.

NATO is on the ground in Afghanistan, but in Iraq? - there is a training accord being implemented by NATO, they are not fighting insurgents.

736 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:34:17am

catch you all later.

737 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:34:19am

re: #732 Sergey Romanov


So there it is - it was not proven beyond the reasonable doubt that Megrahi was the Lockerbie bombing.

Which means, quite possibly that others actually did it, and have never faced justice for it.

738 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:34:24am

re: #735 wozzablog

That too.

First class just ended.

I see the rat hasn't been found yet.

I somehow doubt I will need to do any more updates on the Libyan War.

739 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:35:11am

re: #733 zora

if they used a us flag as a prayer mat then the people who already hate them would continue to hate them. that's about all.

Yeah, I guess their needles are pegged. Once you hit eleventy, all you can do is stay there.

740 jaunte  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:36:16am

re: #729 wrenchwench

And the Libyan flags are on the ground. What if they'd used a US flag as a prayer mat? I can't imagine what would have happened...

The usual suspects would say that not using a US flag as a prayer mat smacks of taquiyya.

741 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:36:37am

re: #737 Obdicut

Which means, quite possibly that others actually did it, and have never faced justice for it.

Yes. Megrahi defence put out a very plausible theory that Palestinian terrorist Abu Talb was involved. The initial Scottish court judgment even states candidly that Gauci identified Abu Talb's photo as the photo of the purchaser (and thus the bomber). Moreover, Abu Talb was the primary suspect before the "Lybian trail" appeared.

742 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:36:41am
743 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:36:44am

re: #738 ProLifeLiberal

That too.

First class just ended.

I see the rat hasn't been found yet.

I somehow doubt I will need to do any more updates on the Libyan War.

Maybe not the war, but things are gonna be interesting in Libya for a while.

744 iossarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:36:56am

re: #732 Sergey Romanov

Here's more on Megrahi, the detailed press release of the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission which permitted the second appeal (prevented by the release):

[Link: www.sccrc.org.uk...]

So there it is - it was not proven beyond the reasonable doubt that Megrahi was the Lockerbie bombing.

I think it's worth repeating your point from earlier: the Megrahi release happened when a) there was about to be an appeal which would have gone into considerable detail concerning the sketchiness of the original trial evidence and b) BP was in the process of negotiating some oil deal or other.

745 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:37:08am

re: #741 Sergey Romanov

Yes. Megrahi defence put out a very plausible theory that Palestinian terrorist Abu Talb was involved. The initial Scottish court judgment even states candidly that Gauci identified Abu Talb's photo as the photo of the purchaser (and thus the bomber). Moreover, Abu Talb was the primary suspect before the "Lybian trail" appeared.

> that Gauci identified Abu Talb's photo as the photo of the purchaser

Uh, forgot to write: at one time identified (and so on).

746 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:38:20am

re: #743 wrenchwench

NATO has decided to help in trying to break the Bab al-Aziziya Compound.

dovenews Libyan
PLZ RT! BREAKING! NATO will be attacking the walls of Gaddafi's compound after the #Maghrab prayer. CIVILIANS STAY AWAY

747 jamesfirecat  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:40:43am

re: #187 Robert O.

Those who oppress their own people and stand on the wrong side of history:

- Nicolae Ceausescu...gone
- Saddam Hussein...gone
- Hosni Mubarak...gone
- Muammar Gaddfi...?
- Scott Walker...?

Scott Walker is an all around jackass bu he doesn't deserve to be listed among monsters like Saddam.

748 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:40:57am

OK. This is kind of, interesting. From back in June.

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

Looks like most of the people protesting in support of NATO are Libyan Americans. The ones protesting against are not and obviously from A.N.S.W.E.R.

749 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:41:40am

The Spider Hole solution did not work out so well for Saddam.

Just saying.

750 Kragar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:42:34am

9 month old book not meant to reflect Perry's current views

[Perry's] communications director, Ray Sullivan, said Thursday that he had “never heard” the governor suggest [Social Security] was unconstitutional. Not only that, Mr. Sullivan said, but “Fed Up!” is not meant to reflect the governor’s current views on how to fix the program. [...]

In an interview, Mr. Sullivan acknowledged that many passages in Mr. Perry’s “Fed Up!” could dog his presidential campaign. The book, Mr. Sullivan said, “is a look back, not a path forward.” It was written “as a review and critique of 50 years of federal excesses, not in any way as a 2012 campaign blueprint or manifesto,” Mr. Sullivan said.

The campaign’s disavowal of “Fed Up!” is itself very new. On Sunday evening, at Mr. Perry’s first campaign stop in Iowa, a questioner asked the governor to talk about how he would fix the country’s rickety entitlement programs. Mr. Perry shot back: “Have you read my book, ‘Fed Up!’ Get a copy and read it.”

751 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:42:45am

Eek!

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

LOL

752 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:45:15am

For:

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

Against:

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

753 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:45:24am

To finish off the discussion for now: for all we know, Megrahi might or might not have been the culprit (at least we know that his alleged partner Fhimah, accused by the same people on similar evidence, was innocent and spent time in prison for nothing), and I understand those who assumed that he was such merely because the Scottish court decided so (since the Scottish system is highly regarded in general). But I do wonder how one can fail to doubt the allegations after reading about the state of the evidence as presented at the trial.

754 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:45:57am

re: #751 Gus 802

Eek!

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

LOL

Eek! The Cat.

755 jaunte  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:46:06am

re: #751 Gus 802

Here's someone against, from the "American Iranian Friendship Committee."

756 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:47:34am

re: #755 jaunte

Here's someone against, from the "American Iranian Friendship Committee."

Let's zoom in!

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

757 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:48:03am

Why do I get the feeling that they're still hiring protestors?

758 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:48:31am

re: #752 Gus 802

Hmmm.

Judging solely on appearance, I'm seeing a distinct lack of Libyan-ness or even Middle Eastern-ness among those opposed to the war.

Some blonde lady wants us to stop meddling in other people's countries. Some Libyan lady wants us to meddle in her country.

If we stop meddling, what will the blonde lady protest next. (I get the feeling that protesting is what she does.)

759 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:48:48am

re: #753 Sergey Romanov

Then why not re-try him and if he is found innocent set him free. The way it was done stunk like rotten fish.

760 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:49:04am

re: #756 Gus 802

Let's zoom in!

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

The angle of the eyeglasses adds charm!
/

761 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:49:50am

re: #758 EmmmieG

If we stop meddling, what will the blonde lady protest next. (I get the feeling that protesting is what she does.)

She'll find something.

762 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:50:16am

re: #758 EmmmieG

Hmmm.

Judging solely on appearance, I'm seeing a distinct lack of Libyan-ness or even Middle Eastern-ness among those opposed to the war.

Some blonde lady wants us to stop meddling in other people's countries. Some Libyan lady wants us to meddle in her country.

If we stop meddling, what will the blonde lady protest next. (I get the feeling that protesting is what she does.)

Perzactly.

763 Lidane  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:50:22am

re: #750 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

9 month old book not meant to reflect Perry's current views

I love that. He can't even own up to what he wrote less than a year ago. Lawl.

764 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:50:33am

re: #761 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

She'll find something.

Oh yes. I get the feeling you couldn't take her to dinner without at least five offenses being committed against her dignity and person-ness.

765 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:50:43am

re: #759 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Then why not re-try him and if he is found innocent set him free. The way it was done stunk like rotten fish.

And admit that they had the wrong guy all the time? I suspect that's why he was set free in the first place, as I wrote in a comment above. Prevented the messy appeal, saved faces for most people involved (save for a minor embarrassment when he didn't die).

766 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:51:03am

re: #760 Sergey Romanov

The angle of the eyeglasses adds charm!
/

Pobre.

//

767 jaunte  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:52:54am

re: #763 Lidane

Flip-flopping on his own book takes Texas-sized chootspa.

768 iossarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:53:10am

I think the "anti-anti" criticism is a bit unfair - apart from the "eek" nutter, they seem to be protesting about the US's priorities rather than actually supporting Gaddafi in any way. Jobs not bombs etc.

Fact is, there are plenty of bad rulers out there who we are either doing nothing to depose, or indeed are actively supporting.

769 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:54:01am

re: #764 EmmmieG

Years ago, I was having lunch with someone and the 20something girl beside us was talking about how George Bush (the Elder) needed to stay out of her uterus.

After about 20 minutes of that, I finally turned to her and said, "Ma'am? I can't imagine anyone wanting to get into your uterus, much less George Bush."

At least she shut up and left.

770 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:54:14am

Some Russians had this dream - when Hitler would be caught, he would be paraded across Moscow in a cage. I think they should do the same to Kaddafi. Give him his best clothes too ;)

771 jaunte  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:54:32am

The world's oldest fossils found in Australia

Ken Ham has not yet commented.

772 mythicknight  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:54:48am

Three down...

773 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:55:54am

re: #771 jaunte

The world's oldest fossils found in Australia

Ken Ham has not yet commented.

May I, may I?

How do we know the age of the fossils? By dating methods. And we know that these methods are flawed. So this fossil is 6000 y.o. at most. The Bible says so.

774 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:56:32am

re: #768 iossarian

I think the "anti-anti" criticism is a bit unfair - apart from the "eek" nutter, they seem to be protesting about the US's priorities rather than actually supporting Gaddafi in any way. Jobs not bombs etc.

Fact is, there are plenty of bad rulers out there who we are either doing nothing to depose, or indeed are actively supporting.

Meh. Looks to me like International ANSWER hired a bunch of people with no horse in this race to hold up their signs.

775 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:56:34am

We have a massive problem at the Rixos.

mchancecnn Matthew Chance
We'll try and come up on telephone for beepers on #CNN. Listen in for updates.
13 minutes ago

mchancecnn Matthew Chance
It's no fun being stuck in one of #Gadhafi's few remaining strongholds. #Rixos gunmen now refusing to let us leave.
14 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

mchancecnn Matthew Chance
Fierce battle under way near #Gadhafi compound. Huge explosions, heavy machine-gun fire. #Rixos getting hit by stray bullets.
15 minutes ago

mchancecnn Matthew Chance
All electricity down, running low on food and water. Sitting at #Rixos in the dark as bullets fly outside.
16 minutes ago

mchancecnn Matthew Chance
Mood in #Rixos much darker than before. Everyone really worried about what's going to happen to us.
16 minutes ago

mchancecnn Matthew Chance
Apologies for being off Twitter. #Rixos coms down, almost impossible to phone out.
17 minutes ago

What does NATO do about this?

776 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:56:59am

re: #773 Sergey Romanov

May I, may I?

How do we know the age of the fossils? By dating methods. And we know that these methods are flawed. So this fossil is 6000 y.o. at most. The Bible says so.

Don't confuse the Bible with the "Idiot's Companion to the Bible".

777 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:57:10am

re: #546 Obdicut

Just tell them you believe in Jury Nullification and they'll kick you off. Or that you think minimum sentencing guidelines are unconstitutional.

In my experience, the surest way to get out of jury duty is to show up when required, pay attention, and think to yourself that it would be kinda neat to be on a jury just once in your life - part of the American experience and what-not. There's no way they'll let you on.

Last time I was summoned, the case was a sexual assault charge where the crux of the biscuit was going to be whether or not consent was withdrawn at some point during the procedings. During voir dire the public defender was asking potential jurors all sorts of ridiculous questions about their favorite TV show and other irrelevant things. I really wanted to ask her what anybody's favorite TV show had to do with the price of tea in China, but I figured it would piss off the judge or something.

778 Kragar  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:57:16am

re: #771 jaunte

The world's oldest fossils found in Australia

Ken Ham has not yet commented.

Put there by God to trick those evil scientists...

779 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:57:21am

re: #769 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Years ago, I was having lunch with someone and the 20something girl beside us was talking about how George Bush (the Elder) needed to stay out of her uterus.

After about 20 minutes of that, I finally turned to her and said, "Ma'am? I can't imagine anyone wanting to get into your uterus, much less George Bush."

At least she shut up and left.

Have you seen the movie "The Bachelor?" At one point he tries to give a woman flowers, and she gives them back and then rants about how flowers are "symbolic vaginas," and what an insult it is.

Good way to be sure nobody ever gives you roses, which are symbolically pretty and nice-smelling.

780 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:57:59am

re: #776 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't confuse the Bible with the "Idiot's Companion to the Bible".

I was doing my best Ken Ham impersonation :P

781 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:58:34am

re: #774 Gus 802

Meh. Looks to me like International ANSWER hired a bunch of people with no horse in this race to hold up their signs.

Just think of it as helping out the economy.

782 iossarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:58:35am

re: #774 Gus 802

Meh. Looks to me like International ANSWER hired a bunch of people with no horse in this race to hold up their signs.

Maybe so.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to them protesting some more when NATO moves on to supporting the oppressed women of Saudi Arabia. /

783 jaunte  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:58:48am

re: #780 Sergey Romanov

I could see your eyes got a little beadier.

784 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:59:09am

re: #777 negativ

all sorts of ridiculous questions about their favorite TV show and other irrelevant things

Ever heard of CSI effect? So it's relevant.

785 Gus  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 9:59:23am
786 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 10:00:01am

re: #783 jaunte

I could see your eyes got a little beadier.

And I began sprouting this weird beard!
/

787 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 10:00:21am

Even even teeny-tiny Malta is trying to help

ksnavarra Karl Stagno-Navarra
#Malta Civil Protection Department to make national collection for food, medical aid for #Libya people

788 zora  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 10:01:20am

re: #756 Gus 802

why?

789 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 10:01:23am

re: #777 negativ

In my experience, the surest way to get out of jury duty is to show up when required, pay attention, and think to yourself that it would be kinda neat to be on a jury just once in your life - part of the American experience and what-not. There's no way they'll let you on.

Spot on observation. I was looking forward to my last jury duty summons actually panning out, as every other time I called in the night before and was told "nope, don't need ya." The last one I went in, sat for a few hours waiting, and was sent home because the trial was postponed. Kind of a bummer for me.

790 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 10:02:40am

re: #779 EmmmieG

Football Player: What's up babes?
Womynist #1: Pack up your rape culture and take a hike!
Football Player: You want a brewdog?
Womynist #1: We're not interested in your penis!
Womynist #2: Wait, wait, I think he's offering us a beer. Um...yes...we...would...like...a...beer.
Football Player: Okayl! (To fellow jocks) Hey! Gimme a beer! Gimme a beer!
Womynist #1: It's like, if you're nice to them, they bring you things?
Womynist #2: Exactly.

-PCU

791 RabbitRunner  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 11:17:06am

re: #790 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Funny, but ultimately the bad guys in PCU were conservative whites

792 RabbitRunner  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 11:17:53am

Well I am glad Daffy is on his way out, he was total scum!

793 CarolJ  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 1:02:43pm

re: #115 moderatelyradicalliberal

How about interracial lesbian porn?

794 CarolJ  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 1:41:22pm

re: #544 Killgore Trout

Tunnels, trap doors, bolt holes, hidden disguises, don't you watch the movies when the villain meets his end? It's never a straight-up capture, but the grand moment when the escape measure is foiled.

795 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Aug 22, 2011 1:44:24pm

re: #793 CarolJ

How about interracial lesbian porn?

how'd you know what's on my hard drive?...............

796 [deleted]  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:33:05am

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A Closer Look at the Eastman State Bar DecisionTaking a few minutes away from work things to read through the Eastman decision. As I'm sure many of you know, Eastman was my law school con law professor. I knew him pretty well because I was also running in ...
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Yesterday
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