First Wingnut Blogger to Bash Obama for Earthquake: Jim ‘Dim’ Hoft

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DERPAnd… the first right wing blogger to find a way — not a good way, but a way — to bash President Obama for the earthquake in Virginia is … the Crown Prince of Derp, Jim Hoft: Earthquake Rattles Washington DC – Obama Goes Biking | The Gateway Pundit.

A 5.8 quake hit Washington DC this afternoon.

The Obama family was biking this afternoon.

Such economy of phrasing. Such powerful, direct language. Hemingway would have been jealous.

UPDATE at 8/23/11 12:17:52 pm

One of Hoft’s commenters wishes all the liberals and Democrats in DC had been killed in the earthquake, leaving only conservatives alive:

To bad that all, ALL the liberals weren’t in that tunnel going out into Virginia from the Capital and our representatives buildings, and it caved in taking them all out! Then that way the largest majority in Washington would be the conservative Republican’s. Then when Obama came back from Martha’s Vineyard he’d have no one to support his crazy ideas that are destroying this nation. You know that Obama is good friends with Maurice Strong who thinks he runs the world with all his bogus organizations and even more bogus NGO’s. Our conservative Republican’s could defund all the U.N. agreements where we don’t know where the money goes. America could begin returning back to where it ought to be. And if all the liberals were dead, Obama couldn’t do a damn thing to stop it. I would like to see him in a situation like that, and I would like to see America in a situation like that, where we would have a small conservative government that got the things done that it is supposed to do and that’s all.

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975 comments
1 Lidanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:38:21am

You know, for a guy who spends all his limited intellect sneering at Obama for supposedly thinking that he's a divine being, Dim Hoft sure loves to give Obama supernatural powers.

How the hell was the POTUS supposed to know an earthquake was about to hit Virginia?

2 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:39:23am

But did he stay upright on the bike?
/

3 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:39:33am

The classic symptoms of Obama derangement are gradually transitioning into outright Obama dementia.

Wingnut failblogger Jim "Dim" Hoft has spoken.

4 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:39:47am

Dumbass.

5 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:39:59am

Truly, Mr Hoft has shown that Obama is like unto Nero.//

6 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:40:31am
7 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:40:34am

@RagingTeabagger RagingTeabagger

Would DC #Earthquake have happened if Obama hadn't gone on vacation? Fox News gets to the bottom of it #p2 #tcot

8 Alouenghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:40:42am

What's the Harpie shrieking about?

9 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:40:42am
the Crown Prince of Derp

Then who's the king? I'm almost afraid to ask...

10 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:40:47am

so where were you the day BO was biking?

11 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:40:57am

The Cycle of Violence strikes again!

//

12 abbyadams  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:41:34am

I feel like this is just the wingnut equivalent of FIRST! for this particular situation,

13 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:41:39am

Obama fails to prevent DC earthquake. Developing...... ///

14 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:42:00am

Clearly this earthquake is the result of moral equivalency.

//

15 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:42:14am

re: #13 Bulworth

Obama fails to prevent causes DC earthquake. Developing... ///

FTFY

16 Velvet Elvis  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:42:17am
17 simoom  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:42:18am

Wow, parents spending quality time with their children, engaged in a healthy exercise activity... clearly an image worthy of griping and derision. ///

18 laZardo  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:42:49am

re: #16 Conservative Moonbat

OH MY GOD THAT'S HORRIBLE

19 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:43:13am

God angry that Democrat Party congresswoman told teabag party to go to hell. #Earthquake

//

20 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:44:06am

re: #16 Conservative Moonbat

Evidence of the destruction.

I hate when that happens.

21 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:44:11am

BREAKING NEWS!

The National Derp Center is reporting that a derp has occured on the internet located in Jim "Dim" Hoft's brain and registering 10.0 on the derpitude scale.

Scientists at the National Derp Center will have a press conference at 3:00 PM EDT.

22 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:44:50am

This is so obviously God voicing his displeasure over the credit downgrade! Can't you see?! We must gut the federal budget, so that we may please him!!!

23 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:45:21am

Less than hour after the quake, gentlemen that has to be a record breaker doesn't it?

24 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:45:27am

The Cannucks even felt it.

Earthquake in Virginia felt in Toronto

25 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:45:40am

A blast from the past Jerry Lee Lewis, 1957.

26 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:45:45am

Technically, wouldn't Drudge be the first to try and link the quake to Obama:

Obama was on golf course... Developing...

Speaking of which, which was it - was Obama biking or was he on the links when this happened? As though he should stop his routine for a quake that appears to have done no damage (other than to a few frayed nerves).

Oh wait - he was doing both.

27 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:45:53am

re: #23 jamesfirecat

Less than hour after the quake, gentlemen that has to be a record breaker doesn't it?

It is pretty remarkable.

28 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:46:51am

re: #26 lawhawk

Technically, wouldn't Drudge be the first to try and link the quake to Obama:

Obama was on golf course... Developing...

Speaking of which, which was it - was Obama biking or was he on the links when this happened? As though he should stop his routine for a quake that appears to have done no damage (other than to a few frayed nerves).

Oh wait - he was doing both.

They were within minutes of each other, so we can probably call this one a tie.

29 yoshicastmaster  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:47:04am

wait- Obama wasn't waiting around on earthquake-readiness alert?

30 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:47:19am
First Wingnut Blogger to Bash Obama for Earthquake: Jim 'Dim' Hoft


Heh, I was just about to make a bad joke about Wingnuts blaming Obama. They beat me to it.

31 iossarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:47:30am

re: #28 thedopefishlives

They were within minutes of each other, so we can probably call this one a tie.

Joint winners of the Virginia Derp-y.

32 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:48:04am

re: #23 jamesfirecat

Less than hour after the quake, gentlemen that has to be a record breaker doesn't it?


Although I assume the "Obama vacationing" line is sitting in the cue ready for any particular development or event.

33 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:48:57am
34 Alouenghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:49:00am

re: #32 Bulworth

Although I assume the "Obama vacationing" line is sitting in the cue ready for any particular development or event.

Or "eating a burger" or "eating ice cream"

35 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:50:17am

re: #29 yoshicastmaster

wait- Obama wasn't waiting around on earthquake-readiness alert?

"And keep Air Force 1 running hot fueled on the pad. I have a feeling there might be an earthquake in Virginia tomorrow afternoon."

[Obama flys off like Superman back to his Martha's Vineyard vacation home.]

//

36 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:50:51am

re: #33 Killgore Trout

Enjoy the comments from Fox News readers...

Magnitude 5.9 Earthquake Hits Virginia, Sends Shockwaves Throughout East Coast

No! Wait, wait... let me guess...

//

37 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:51:34am

"Some people say earthquake proves Obama hates America." #earthquake.

//

38 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:51:58am

These are the advantages of living in B.F.E. Utah!!
The tallest buildings for 75 miles are the fucking grain elevators!!
Just step outside your home or office and *POOF*your safe from falling
...ah...ah stuff!

39 iossarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:51:58am

I wouldn't have minded if the criticism were something relevant, such as: "if this had been serious, we can only imagine what the dreadful consequences would have been of Obama's decision to staff the government's disaster response offices with unqualified crony losers".

Oh, wait...

40 What, me worry?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:51:58am

What a moron. Everyone knows it was us.

#BlameTheJews

41 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:53:20am

"Economists agree: too much spending caused DC earthquake."

//

42 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:53:57am

... This concludes this test of the HAARP Emergency System. If this had been a real emergency something would have been shaken to bits for real.

43 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:54:06am

"Republicans respond by calling for deeper cuts to the National Earthquake Center."

//

44 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:54:18am

Somewhat breaking: in Moscow police detained a suspected organizer of Politkovskaya's murder, Lieut.-Col. of militsiya Dmitry Pavlyuchenkov. It is claimed that while heading a secret militsiya division dealing with "operative-technical information" (such as wire-tapping) he received a "contract" to assassinate Politkovskaya.

45 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:55:08am

"Earthquakes? How did they get there?"

//

46 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:55:31am

re: #43 Gus 802

"Republicans respond by calling for deeper cuts to the National Earthquake Center."

//

Clearly, earthquake monitoring is something better left to the private sector.

47 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:55:41am

"Bush kept us safe from earthquakes." #earthquake

//

48 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:56:11am

I was just here for that. I mean the Earthquake. That is why I was gone for a while.

I'm in the DC area. The whole building was moving and stuff was moving on my desk.

Earthquakes are surprisingly more frightening then I thought they would be.

49 AK-47%  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:56:39am

re: #47 Bulworth

"Bush kept us safe from earthquakes." #earthquake

//

and he did so although he spent up to 180 days per year on vacation...

50 Neutral President  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:57:09am

Volcano monitors...
Earthquake monitors...
Fucking Magnets!

-Gov Bobby Jindal

51 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:57:09am

re: #48 LudwigVanQuixote

Your FIRST???

52 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:57:36am

re: #51 reloadingisnotahobby

Your FIRST???

You know, some people go their entire lives without experiencing an earthquake. Like me, for example. (So far.)

53 dragonfire1981  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:57:47am

If Obama really did want to unleash an earthquake on America, wouldn't he direct it at Kansas or Alabama or Texas?

54 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:58:01am

re: #48 LudwigVanQuixote

I was just here for that. I mean the Earthquake. That is why I was gone for a while.

I'm in the DC area. The whole building was moving and stuff was moving on my desk.

Earthquakes are surprisingly more frightening then I thought they would be.

Just remember, its over.

55 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:58:17am

re: #40 marjoriemoon

What a moron. Everyone knows it was us.

#BlameTheJews

I did it... Ohh I have a killer new page up that I want to pimp too...Shamelessly

The Hundred Billion Dollar Cost of AGW This Year (and counting)

56 Alouenghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:58:27am

re: #53 dragonfire1981

If Obama really did want to unleash an earthquake on America, wouldn't he direct it at Kansas or Alabama or Texas?

this was a little practice one.
//

57 kirghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:58:27am

re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just remember, its over.

Barring aftershocks, of course.

58 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:58:53am

Earthquake not caused by seismic movements... caused by movement from the Great Flood. Heed His warning! #youngearthcreationist

59 ghazidor  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:58:57am

re: #11 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The Cycle of Violence strikes again!

//

Grooooan...

Obama Shifts Gears as Ground Shifts in Virginia!
Coincidence or conspiracy?

///

60 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:59:05am

re: #57 kirkspencer

Barring aftershocks, of course.

And the Zombies.

61 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:59:30am

re: #51 reloadingisnotahobby

Your FIRST???

Yes... I'm an East coast kinda guy... we don't get many. Well ok this was my second there was a little one - much smaller than this when I was a little boy in Pa.

62 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:59:31am

Heathenry caused they plates to moveth!

//

63 Neutral President  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:59:34am

re: #48 LudwigVanQuixote

I was just here for that. I mean the Earthquake. That is why I was gone for a while.

I'm in the DC area. The whole building was moving and stuff was moving on my desk.

Earthquakes are surprisingly more frightening then I thought they would be.

Living in CA for 37 years, you get used to anything below 6 being "not a big deal" but... the first one you feel no matter what magnitude is frightening. The first one I felt was when I was about 8 years old. Scared the living crap out of me.

64 What, me worry?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:59:56am

re: #55 LudwigVanQuixote

I did it... Ohh I have a killer new page up that I want to pimp too...Shamelessly

The Hundred Billion Dollar Cost of AGW This Year (and counting)

It's all coming clear to me now... Ludwig moves to DC, earthquake strikes DC.... You got some energy, dude!

65 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:59:56am

re: #52 thedopefishlives

The best one I can remember ..I was outside and watched the sidewalks
roll like waves for 1.5 minutes!
If Yellowstone goes we in Utah will be toast!

66 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:59:56am

re: #62 Gus 802

Heathenry caused they thy plates to moveth!

//

Woops.

67 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:00:30pm

re: #48 LudwigVanQuixote

I was just here for that. I mean the Earthquake. That is why I was gone for a while.

I'm in the DC area. The whole building was moving and stuff was moving on my desk.

Earthquakes are surprisingly more frightening then I thought they would be.

You're probably not far from me.
*Waves out the window*

68 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:01:15pm

It had a depth of a tenth of a mile.
No wonder so many felt it.

69 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:01:17pm

re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just remember, its over.

...except for the aftershocks.

FTFY

70 What, me worry?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:01:37pm

We just get a lot of fast blowing hot air. Just like Jim Hoft!

71 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:01:57pm

I do have to say it was probably good that the quake didn't strike later - say at during rush hour. It would have likely caused a panic in some areas, and caused major headaches for commuters as transit authorities closed bridges, tunnels, and airports as a precaution to check for damage.

It looks like most everything has reopened in the NYC metro area after precautionary closures.

72 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:02:21pm

re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just remember, its over.

Not necessarily. But I should know by about Sunday.

73 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:02:25pm

re: #67 Varek Raith

You're probably not far from me.
*Waves out the window*

STAY AWAY FROM THE WINDOWS!!
Aftershock ya know!/

74 What, me worry?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:02:44pm

re: #71 lawhawk

I do have to say it was probably good that the quake didn't strike later - say at during rush hour. It would have likely caused a panic in some areas, and caused major headaches for commuters as transit authorities closed bridges, tunnels, and airports as a precaution to check for damage.

It looks like most everything has reopened in the NYC metro area after precautionary closures.

Any news at LGA?

75 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:02:51pm

DC is now inspecting all bridges and tunnels.

76 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:03:08pm

re: #57 kirkspencer

Barring aftershocks, of course.

Sure, but those could happen anytime. No use worrying about it and being on edge.

77 Tumulus11  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:03:54pm

. Of course Pres. Bush is never given credit for all the earthquakes he prevented./

78 AK-47%  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:04:12pm

re: #76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sure, but those could happen anytime. No use worrying about it and being on edge.

my attitude about LSD flashbacks...

79 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:04:18pm

re: #76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sure, but those could happen anytime. No use worrying about it and being on edge.

Indeed. I just made sure that anything on my shelves/cabinets that could fall, won't.

80 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:04:55pm

re: #77 Tumulus11

. Of course Pres. Bush is never given credit for all the earthquakes he prevented./

There were no earthquakes while Bush was in office. Coincidence? #tcot

81 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:05:33pm

re: #74 marjoriemoon

2:45 PM
NYC TRANSIT - 1-5 m delay - LA GUARDIA AIRPORT NO PROBLEMS TO REPORT ON ARRIVALS AND DEPARTURES.

82 laZardo  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:06:13pm

re: #81 lawhawk

2:45 PM
NYC TRANSIT - 1-5 m delay - LA GUARDIA AIRPORT NO PROBLEMS TO REPORT ON ARRIVALS AND DEPARTURES.

THINK OF ALL THE LOST PRODUCTIVITY!

83 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:07:17pm

I know you guys were worried, but I'm ok, survived my first earthquake.
//

84 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:07:26pm

re: #81 lawhawk

2:45 PM
NYC TRANSIT - 1-5 m delay - LA GUARDIA AIRPORT NO PROBLEMS TO REPORT ON ARRIVALS AND DEPARTURES.

Isn't that better than normal?
/

85 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:08:00pm

We used to joke in CA about how you could tell locals from tourists in the post quake interviews.

The locals would be calm, talking about the clean up or the damage. The tourists would be the ones hyperventilating and going on about the actual quake.

86 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:08:23pm

City crew just inspected the outside gas line in to the house.
How nice of them.

87 William of Orange  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:08:24pm

Christ!.....


Hardly any damage done in the quake. Do they regard any burp the earth makes as a tsunami??

88 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:09:10pm

re: #87 William of Orange

Christ!...

Hardly any damage done in the quake. Do they regard any burp the earth makes as a tsunami??

Considering that this occurred in an area not exactly known as being earthquake-proofed, it's better to err on the side of caution.

89 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:09:11pm

re: #87 William of Orange

Christ!...

Hardly any damage done in the quake. Do they regard any burp the earth makes as a tsunami??

A MIGHTY TSUNAMI WAS SPAWNED FROM THE POTOMAC!
Or not.
Burp.

90 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:09:13pm

I was leaving school and as we were driving out the main gate of the base (Ft McNair downtown DC), some lady was talking about the building shaking and we were laughing at her, never felt a thing.

91 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:09:43pm

re: #87 William of Orange

Christ!...


Hardly any damage done in the quake. Do they regard any burp the earth makes as a tsunami??

When it's your first time any sort of shaking is impressive.

92 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:09:45pm

re: #90 rwdflynavy

I was leaving school and as we were driving out the main gate of the base (Ft McNair downtown DC), some lady was talking about the building shaking and we were laughing at her, never felt a thing.

BUILDING CODES ARE THE DEVIL'S INSTRUMENT!

93 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:10:00pm

QuakeTweets of the Day: Courtesy of OprahReadsNews:
EARTHQUAKES FOR EVVVVVeeerrryyyyOOOOnnnneeeeeee!!! New York gets an earthquake, DC gets an earthquake, Virginia gets an earthquake...

Other quake tweets of merit (with some overlap).

94 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:10:02pm

re: #91 oaktree

When it's your first time any sort of shaking is impressive.

Thats what she said.

95 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:10:57pm

re: #90 rwdflynavy

I was leaving school and as we were driving out the main gate of the base (Ft McNair downtown DC), some lady was talking about the building shaking and we were laughing at her, never felt a thing.

Small world. I work pretty near Ft. McNair.

96 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:11:01pm

My dad (79) didn't know what it was at first. Thought there was something wrong with him. Found out later that it was an earthquake. He's in Central NJ.

97 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:11:03pm

re: #94 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats what she said.

Beat me to it, you did.

98 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:11:21pm

Naw, too many words. Hemingway started the whole six-word short story thing.

For sale: baby shoes. Never worn.

99 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:11:23pm

Perry says no to 'Obamacare,' but what's his plan?

to say 'no', of course

100 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:11:50pm

And!

USGS: Colorado experiences largest quake in more than 40 years

(CNN) -- A moderate 5.3-magnitude earthquake that rattled southern Colorado early Tuesday morning was the largest to hit the state in more than 40 years, the U.S. Geological Survey said.

The quake's epicenter was seven miles southwest of Cokedale, and 180 miles south of Denver. There were no immediate reports of casualties.

A dispatcher at the sheriff's office in Las Animas County, which includes Cokedale, said the quake lasted almost 30 seconds. The office received reports of rocks falling on a highway and of some structure damage...

101 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:12:22pm

re: #99 engineer dog

Perry says no to 'Obamacare,' but what's his plan?

to say 'no', of course

Perrycare.

102 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:12:24pm

re: #100 Gus 802

And!

USGS: Colorado experiences largest quake in more than 40 years

LUNAR VOLCANOES!
DON'T YOU ALL SEE HOW THIS IS ALL RELATED?!?!

103 RadicalModerate  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:12:33pm

Washington DC is apparently attempting to emulate Tokyo this week. Significant earthquake followed Hurricane Irene- which looks to be a Cat 3/Cat 4 when it makes landfall.

And a note for those nutcases on the far right: How do you explain that these disasters only happened AFTER the teabaggers took over Washington?

104 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:12:52pm

re: #102 Varek Raith

LUNAR VOLCANOES!
DON'T YOU ALL SEE HOW THIS IS ALL RELATED?!?!

Clearly! It's the gay agenda!

//

105 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:13:11pm

re: #103 RadicalModerate

And a note for those nutcases on the far right: How do you explain that these disasters only happened AFTER the teabaggers took over Washington?

Because they ALSO only happened after OBAMA took office. Derp.

106 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:13:28pm

re: #104 Gus 802

Clearly! It's the gay agenda!

//

Cheese Gromit! CHEESE!

107 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:13:32pm

re: #103 RadicalModerate

Washington DC is apparently attempting to emulate Tokyo this week. Significant earthquake followed Hurricane Irene- which looks to be a Cat 3/Cat 4 when it makes landfall.

And a note for those nutcases on the far right: How do you explain that these disasters only happened AFTER the teabaggers took over Washington?

Damn.
I have to prepare for that stupid hurricane.
Sheesh!

108 Lidanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:14:02pm

I told my best friend about Dim Hoft bleating at Obama because of the quake. Her response: "When do we get permission to put Xanax in the Evian these idiots drink?"

Heh.

109 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:14:35pm
110 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:15:29pm

re: #99 engineer dog

Perry says no to 'Obamacare,' but what's his plan?

to say 'no', of course

Even better, Perry's plan is called Whatdoicare.

111 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:16:10pm

re: #107 Varek Raith

Damn.
I have to prepare for that stupid hurricane.
Sheesh!

Plus, given that aftershocks can happen for days afterwards, you can have a quake in your hurricane.

112 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:16:46pm

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Plus, given that aftershocks can happen for days afterwards, you can have a quake in your hurricane.

Yo dawg, I heard you like natural disasters.

113 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:16:48pm

re: #95 Bulworth

Small world. I work pretty near Ft. McNair.

I'm at NDU (ICAF).

114 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:16:54pm

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Plus, given that aftershocks can happen for days afterwards, you can have a quake in your hurricane.

The universe hates us.
Although...
The backyard floods easily.
An earthquake may remedy that.
Win!

115 What, me worry?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:17:07pm

re: #81 lawhawk

2:45 PM
NYC TRANSIT - 1-5 m delay - LA GUARDIA AIRPORT NO PROBLEMS TO REPORT ON ARRIVALS AND DEPARTURES.

Sweet. Thanks, Hawk.

116 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:17:11pm

One of Hoft's commenters wishes all the liberals and Democrats in DC had been killed in the earthquake:

To bad that all, ALL the liberals weren’t in that tunnel going out into Virginia from the Capital and our representatives buildings, and it caved in taking them all out! Then that way the largest majority in Washington would be the conservative Republican’s. Then when Obama came back from Martha’s Vineyard he’d have no one to support his crazy ideas that are destroying this nation. You know that Obama is good friends with Maurice Strong who thinks he runs the world with all his bogus organizations and even more bogus NGO’s. Our conservative Republican’s could defund all the U.N. agreements where we don’t know where the money goes. America could begin returning back to where it ought to be. And if all the liberals were dead, Obama couldn’t do a damn thing to stop it. I would like to see him in a situation like that, and I would like to see America in a situation like that, where we would have a small conservative government that got the things done that it is supposed to do and that’s all.

117 Lidanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:17:25pm

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Israelis not that thrilled with Glenn Beck...
‘Hallucinatory Uncle From America’: Israeli TV Promotes Left Group’s Plans for Anti-Beck Protests

Not surprisingly, Beck's people don't want anyone who attends his rally to be interviewed:

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

118 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:17:35pm

re: #107 Varek Raith

Damn.
I have to prepare for that stupid hurricane.
Sheesh!

I'm going to the Buffet concert on Saturday. Should be a rainy event!

119 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:17:45pm

re: #116 Charles

One of Hoft's commenters wishes all the liberals and Democrats in DC had been killed in the earthquake:

Uhhh... Can't the Secret Service be called in at this point?

120 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:18:00pm

I think what happened was that the magnitude of GOP lies finally formed resonance with the Earth itself. Well it's just an hypothesis - but I am prepared to defend it.

///

121 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:18:03pm

re: #116 Charles

One of Hoft's commenters wishes all the liberals and Democrats in DC had been killed in the earthquake:

Those guys at ALIPAC would get behind that.

122 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:18:07pm

re: #116 Charles

One of Hoft's commenters wishes all the liberals and Democrats in DC had been killed in the earthquake:

OMG. What an asshole.

123 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:18:42pm

re: #116 Charles

One of Hoft's commenters wishes all the liberals and Democrats in DC had been killed in the earthquake:

They need a conservative dictator, is all.

124 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:18:47pm

re: #116 Charles

One of Hoft's commenters wishes all the liberals and Democrats in DC had been killed in the earthquake:

Not at all surprised

125 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:18:50pm

re: #120 LudwigVanQuixote

I think what happened was that the magnitude of GOP lies finally formed resonance with the Earth itself. Well it's just an hypothesis - but I am prepared to defend it.

///

Or!
I have control over Grazer One.

126 What, me worry?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:19:31pm

re: #116 Charles

One of Hoft's commenters wishes all the liberals and Democrats in DC had been killed in the earthquake:

Yikes! It would have been a lot easier to just say, "Shoot the liberals!" He really needs to loosen that tinfoil hat. The aluminum is seeping into his brain.

127 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:19:37pm

re: #67 Varek Raith

You're probably not far from me.
*Waves out the window*

I've known where you are for some time - All those choked storm troopers are hard to miss.

128 Lidanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:19:47pm

re: #118 rwdflynavy

I'm going to the Buffet concert on Saturday. Should be a rainy event!

Jimmy Buffett concerts are always rainy. Or maybe it's just all the margaritas that get spilled by people there. Haha.

129 blueraven  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:20:55pm

Good grief...can NRO get more petty? This article by Tevi Troy analyzing Obamas summer reading, is even being panned by most of the comments.

This year’s list suggests that Obama needs to consider the messages sent by his reading more carefully. According to Mickey Kaus, the Obama list is “heavy on the wrenching stories of immigrant experiences, something the President already knows quite a bit about.” For this reason, Kaus feels that the list reveals an intellectually incurious president. Either that, or it is “a bit of politicized PR BS designed to help the President out.” In that case, he notes, “it’s sending the wrong message.” Either way, the annual book list should be a relatively easy way to make the president appear to be on top of things and in control. This year’s list, alas, reveals a president who appears to be neither.

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

130 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:20:58pm

re: #125 Varek Raith

Or!
I have control over Grazer One.

[Deploying Remo Williams]

131 Lidanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:20:59pm

re: #116 Charles

One of Hoft's commenters wishes all the liberals and Democrats in DC had been killed in the earthquake:

What a fun guy. I'll bet he's a hoot at parties. =P

132 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:21:14pm

re: #116 Charles

Who is Maurice Strong? Who are all these bizarre bogeymen that the right-wing thinks are important to the left?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Apparently, he's a guy that left the UN 6 years ago.

Scary!

133 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:21:15pm

re: #119 thedopefishlives

Uhhh... Can't the Secret Service be called in at this point?

I don't think it's against the law to fantasize that all the people you don't like got killed in an earthquake, thereby ruining the President's administration. Creepy as hell, but within the law.

134 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:21:26pm

re: #125 Varek Raith

Or!
I have control over Grazer One.

Now that is cool... a focussed graviton beam would cause oscillations in two dimensions perpendicular to the propagation. Tensors are funny like that. It would literally taffy a target.

135 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:21:33pm

So far no reports of injuries or damage.
North Anna was safely shut down.
Phones still a bit of an issue around here.

136 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:21:35pm

Geologically it is rather odd from a human perspective. To have two atypical events within 24 hours and separated by such long distance -- Virginia and Colorado.

137 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:21:51pm

re: #117 Lidane

Not surprisingly, Beck's people don't want anyone who attends his rally to be interviewed:

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

Wow, tiny venue. Looks like planing for a few dozen to attend.

138 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:21:59pm

re: #125 Varek Raith

You've crossed over into Dark Territory....

You're going to hit a fertilizer plant?
Yeah, I'm gonna shock the world by spreading ca-ca all over the place. Guangzhou is a chemical weapons plant masquerading as a fertilizer plant. We know this. The Chinese know that we know. But we make-believe that we don't know and the Chinese make-believe that they believe that we don't know, but know that we know. Everybody knows.

139 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:22:25pm

re: #129 blueraven

There's some soft birtherism in there as well. Obama is not really that knowledgeable about immigrant experiences, since he was only a temporary visitor to the Philippines. It really seems like they're tying to imply Obama is an immigrant himself.

Tiresome.

140 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:22:33pm

re: #127 LudwigVanQuixote

All those choked storm troopers are hard to miss.

Which is ironic because they were choked for missing so easily.

141 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:22:50pm

re: #63 ArchangelMichael

Living in CA for 37 years, you get used to anything below 6 being "not a big deal" but... the first one you feel no matter what magnitude is frightening. The first one I felt was when I was about 8 years old. Scared the living crap out of me.

That was a kind thing to write. Thanks.

142 Sonoran Supposition  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:22:58pm

Cannot wait for Jon Stewart to rip apart the media's reaction!

143 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:22:58pm

re: #119 thedopefishlives

Uhhh... Can't the Secret Service be called in at this point?

Nah, it didn't threaten or advocate causing such a thing. Otoh, I hope a freak tornado appears out of a blue sky and yanks the poster right out of his bunker, never to be seen again.

144 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:23:05pm

re: #136 Gus 802

Geologically it is rather odd from a human perspective. To have two atypical events within 24 hours and separated by such long distance -- Virginia and Colorado.

Supervolcano coming.

145 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:23:32pm

re: #144 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Supervolcano coming.

Between now and the year 200,011.

//

146 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:23:41pm

re: #144 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Supervolcano coming.

YELLOWSTONE CALDERA IS GONNA BLOW!
RUNAWAY!

147 AK-47%  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:23:53pm

re: #138 lawhawk

You've crossed over into Dark Territory...

You're going to hit a fertilizer plant?
Yeah, I'm gonna shock the world by spreading ca-ca all over the place. Guangzhou is a chemical weapons plant masquerading as a fertilizer plant. We know this. The Chinese know that we know. But we make-believe that we don't know and the Chinese make-believe that they believe that we don't know, but know that we know. Everybody knows.

Like Jerry Hall and Mick's philandering, until he got a Brazilian model pregnant...

148 makeitstopghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:23:59pm

re: #144 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Supervolcano coming.

You've got a big week planned for us, I see.

149 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:24:03pm

re: #146 Varek Raith

YELLOWSTONE CALDERA IS GONNA BLOW!
RUNAWAY!

It's not 2012 yet. False alarm.

150 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:24:19pm

re: #128 Lidane

Jimmy Buffett concerts are always rainy. Or maybe it's just all the margaritas that get spilled by people there. Haha.

Jiffy Lube Live (the venue) doesn't allow tailgating. Really?!?!? Jimmy Buffet and no tailgating?????

151 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:24:25pm

re: #140 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Eh.... we just fool Darth into thinking he can choke us. Here's your Darth Vader orientation:

152 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:24:37pm

re: #146 Varek Raith

YELLOWSTONE CALDERA IS GONNA BLOW!
RUNAWAY!

The Rapture is upon us!

//

153 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:24:43pm

re: #148 makeitstop

You've got a big week planned for us, I see.

Just for fun, I'm keeping Triffids in reserve.

154 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:25:23pm

re: #152 Gus 802

The Rapture is upon us!

//

Hey, November is coming up quick. That is the next anticipated date for the Rapture, isn't it?

155 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:25:28pm

re: #152 Gus 802

The Rapture is upon us!

//

156 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:25:43pm

re: #136 Gus 802

Geologically it is rather odd from a human perspective. To have two atypical events within 24 hours and separated by such long distance -- Virginia and Colorado.

To be followed in the next few weeks by quakes in Nebraska, Northwest Territories, Wisconsin, Texas, Pennsylvania, and Rhode Island in order to put the message across...
///

157 Lidanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:25:56pm

re: #150 rwdflynavy

Jiffy Lube Live (the venue) doesn't allow tailgating. Really?!?!? Jimmy Buffet and no tailgating???

Pffft. As if that's even possible. Folks might not be pulling out the grills and coolers, but they're damn sure going to get drunk before a Jimmy Buffet concert.

158 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:26:13pm

re: #116 Charles

One of Hoft's commenters wishes all the liberals and Democrats in DC had been killed in the earthquake:

Self-loathing con...can only win by eliminating the competition.

Dumb bigot.

159 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:26:21pm

Wingnuts are going crazy all over the web. Joel Rosenberg -- Glenn Beck's frequent guest -- says it's a sign of the END TIMES! Aieee!

[Link: flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com...]

160 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:26:22pm

re: #154 thedopefishlives

Hey, November is coming up quick. That is the next anticipated date for the Rapture, isn't it?

Got me. I lost track of the next End-O-Times date.

161 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:27:00pm

Here we go.

Part of the central tower of the National Cathedral, the highest point in Washington, D.C., was damaged, according to spokesman Richard Weinberg. "It looks like three of the pinnacles have broken off the central tower," Weinberg told CNN.


And

A "considerable amount" of water from a water pipe has flooded two corridors of the Pentagon, according to an announcement in the building. People who work in those areas are being asked to stay in their offices while workers try to repair the damage.
162 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:27:11pm

It's almost a Pavlovian response.

164 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:28:09pm

re: #159 Charles

Wingnuts are going crazy all over the web. Joel Rosenberg -- Glenn Beck's frequent guest -- says it's a sign of the END TIMES! Aieee!

[Link: flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com...]

Why does god hate Virginia?

“The Lord is shaking the nations physically, spiritually, financially: Why, and how should we respond?”
165 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:28:46pm

re: #159 Charles

The End Times? That quake marked the end times?

Consider me underwhelmed.

But then again, if there is a hell, I will see you there.

166 Randall Gross  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:28:49pm

re: #159 Charles

Wingnuts are going crazy all over the web. Joel Rosenberg -- Glenn Beck's frequent guest -- says it's a sign of the END TIMES! Aieee!

[Link: flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com...]

Oh no! JAYSUS halp us the Mayan Calenar is running out too!....

////

167 iossarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:28:50pm

re: #152 Gus 802

The Rapture is upon us!

//

What, again?

That makes three times this year!

168 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:29:28pm

re: #128 Lidane

Jimmy Buffett concerts are always rainy. Or maybe it's just all the margaritas that get spilled by people there. Haha.

Jimmy Buffett owns one of the coolest planes in the world. The Grumman Albatross was still in service early in my military career, and I got to take a coupe of rides in them. Conceptually, it is something like an ocean-going DC-3, but much cooler. Never landed on the water though, and still haven't. One of the items on my bucket list is to fly a seaplane to and from water.

169 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:29:37pm

I was 30 miles from the epicenter when it happened. What did I feel?

BUPKIS!

Related. A friend of mine's son is visiting her in Richmond from the San Francisco. Is that irony?

170 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:29:45pm

re: #159 Charles

Wingnuts are going crazy all over the web. Joel Rosenberg -- Glenn Beck's frequent guest -- says it's a sign of the END TIMES! Aieee!

[Link: flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com...]

Carrying on the fine tradition of Flavius Indictus who told the Plebeians that Rome's burning was sign of the End Times...

171 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:30:16pm

Our conservative Republican’s could defund all the U.N. agreements where we don’t know where the money goes.

there is still some possibility that this student could pass high school english composition if he applies himself

172 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:30:38pm

Yeah. It's the end of the world. The end of humankind. I'm sure there was never an earthquake of this magnitude in all of "Virginia's" unrecorded history.

Surely this must be a sign. I mean He did it to warn the blessed Americans!

//

173 makeitstopghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:30:59pm

I'm looking at 'quake aftermath' photos. They're mostly of people standing around outside. Kinda funny, actually.

174 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:31:25pm

Did Glenn Beck say it was our Founding Fathers rolling around in there graves?

175 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:31:40pm

re: #171 engineer dog

Our conservative Republican’s could defund all the U.N. agreements where we don’t know where the money goes.

there is still some possibility that this student could pass high school english composition if he applies himself

Teabagger Picket Sign Copywriting intern.

176 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:31:53pm

Okay, if this is indeed the beginning of the end, let me get my musical interludes ready:

Metallica's Four Horsemen, followed by Seek and Destroy, and then Creeping Death, and rounded out by My Apocalypse.

177 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:31:58pm

re: #173 makeitstop

I'm looking at 'quake aftermath' photos. They're mostly of people standing around outside. Kinda funny, actually.

THERE WILL BE A GENERAL MILLING ABOUT AND LOOKS OF BEFUDDLEMENT WHEN THE END TIMES ARE UPON US!

178 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:32:08pm

re: #159 Charles

Wingnuts are going crazy all over the web. Joel Rosenberg -- Glenn Beck's frequent guest -- says it's a sign of the END TIMES! Aieee!

[Link: flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com...]

Hahaha!
Freaking plate tectonics, how do they work?

179 Randall Gross  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:32:14pm

The mass calling event spike from this is now starting to fade. It was huge.

180 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:32:24pm

And I would like to say that the over reaction and mild chuckling is much better than looking at pictures of devastation if something like an 8.0 had occurred. Just wanted to get that in.

181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:33:00pm

Two posts... two typos. Please allow me to fix...

... from San Francisco

and

... their graves

Where's that damn "minute window" to fix a post!?!?

182 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:33:17pm

re: #173 makeitstop

I'm looking at 'quake aftermath' photos. They're mostly of people standing around outside. Kinda funny, actually.

Someone down the street from me came out of his house and yelled, "whoo! Earthquake!"
Lol

183 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:33:29pm

re: #176 lawhawk

Okay, if this is indeed the beginning of the end, let me get my musical interludes ready:

Metallica's Four Horsemen, followed by Seek and Destroy, and then Creeping Death, and rounded out by My Apocalypse.

184 Lidanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:33:40pm

re: #178 Varek Raith

Hahaha!
Freaking plate tectonics, how do they work?

Plate tectonics involves science, which is evil.

185 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:33:43pm

re: #178 Varek Raith

Hahaha!
Freaking plate tectonics, how do they work?

Like really big, really slow bumper cars driven by thermal cycling from the heated core of the Earth.

186 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:34:05pm

re: #182 Varek Raith

Someone down the street from me came out of his house and yelled, "whoo! Earthquake!"
Lol

This was my folks' reaction when Indiana had their earthquake last year. It was a complete novelty.

187 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:34:11pm

Stones fall off Washington National Cathedral

A spokesman for Washington National Cathedral says at least three of the four pinnacles on the central tower have fallen off and the central tower appears to be leaning.

The pinnacles are the top stones on the cathedral's towers.

We just had a 2.8 aftershock and I hear 10 nuke plants are having problems. Also a building collapsed in Culpeper, Va.

188 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:34:16pm

re: #176 lawhawk

Okay, if this is indeed the beginning of the end, let me get my musical interludes ready:

Metallica's Four Horsemen, followed by Seek and Destroy, and then Creeping Death, and rounded out by My Apocalypse.

189 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:34:24pm

By the way - I'm going to block any new registrations from China. Last night a spammer got in and dumped 10 comments; luckily one of the monitors saw it happening and deleted them almost immediately. And it was apparently a real person, not a bot.

This one got through, but I block out spam attempts from China on a very regular basis -- referrer spam, attempts to use the contact form, etc.

There's almost no valid traffic coming from that country at all.

190 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:34:43pm

re: #159 Charles

Wingnuts are going crazy all over the web. Joel Rosenberg -- Glenn Beck's frequent guest -- says it's a sign of the END TIMES! Aieee!

[Link: flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com...]

He's just pimping his book. Sequel to The Last Jihad.

191 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:35:16pm

re: #187 NJDhockeyfan

Stones fall off Washington National Cathedral

We just had a 2.8 aftershock and I hear 10 nuke plants are having problems. Also a building collapsed in Culpeper, Va.

I was born in Culpeper.
Felt nothing here, though.

192 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:35:20pm

re: #187 NJDhockeyfan

Stones fall off Washington National Cathedral

We just had a 2.8 aftershock and I hear 10 nuke plants are having problems. Also a building collapsed in Culpeper, Va.

Damn. People hurt?

193 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:35:24pm

re: #187 NJDhockeyfan

Stones fall off Washington National Cathedral

We just had a 2.8 aftershock and I hear 10 nuke plants are having problems. Also a building collapsed in Culpeper, Va.

Define "having problems". Preemptive shutdown or there's coolant leaking all over and they're afraid of a partial meltdown?

194 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:35:34pm
195 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:36:19pm

re: #193 thedopefishlives

Define "having problems". Preemptive shutdown or there's coolant leaking all over and they're afraid of a partial meltdown?

I know North Anna was shut down.
Oh geez, I don't wanna hear "having problems".
:/

196 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:37:04pm

re: #193 thedopefishlives

Define "having problems". Preemptive shutdown or there's coolant leaking all over and they're afraid of a partial meltdown?

When radioactive zombie Jackson appears and starts taking things out there is a problem...

197 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:37:17pm

Speaking of end-times, I saw the first part of Left Behind a few nights ago. The most amazing part is that millions disappear into thin air one fine day, leaving their clothes, cars, and leashed dogs behind, and the stay-behinds take days to get even an inkling that this may be the actual Rapture. Even then, only a handful suspect "the truth" or, indeed, have ever heard of the concept. It must be happening in an alternate world where the Rapture has not been the subject of non-stop Fundy propaganda for decades.

198 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:37:27pm

re: #195 Varek Raith

I know North Anna was shut down.
Oh geez, I don't wanna hear "having problems".
:/

Reminds me of the Bill Cosby sketch. "Oops? Whaddya mean, oops? 'Cuz I know what I mean when I say oops!"

199 Atlas Fails  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:37:27pm

Could anyone be dumber than Dim? Yes! His commenters:

Missy8s commented:

President Downgrade’s fault!!!

Militant Conservative commented:

Caliphate grows due to Obama.

Jesus with earthquake button, test,test, yup

We’re good to go. I love irony.

Powder is dry

(?)

SnowSoul commented:

Wonder if Deepok Chopra farted, I mean, meditated again.


Ginger commented:

You think that God is telling those liberal states to change their ways or else?

Please let every one be safe.

Taqiyyotomist commented:

Isaiah 24:20

The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

Pay attention.

Bunni commented:

The wrath of God is hunting down the poser. Maybe if we’re lucky, he’ll get swallowed up by a huge sinkhole and go express to hell

Cutlers bad knee commented:

Obama; Hey everyone don’t worry about it we’ll just blame Bush…Nah that’s old, I got it we’ll blame the Tea Party..Maybe it’s the fault of global warming..How about deep water drilling for oil, damn that Exxon..Maybe we should blame all the white people,or all them damn corporations,or just all the people who work hard to have something of value…There’s just so many, anyway who cares I have no time for this, leave me alone can’t you see I’m trying to line up this putt…..

Patty commented:

Every time the boy vacations Tsunami, Earthquakes, Hurricanes and Floods. Anyone see a meaning in this. Should he just stay in Washington and do work.

...and so on. I'm actually pretty impressed these people managed to turn their computers on.

200 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:37:30pm

re: #192 SanFranciscoZionist

Damn. People hurt?

Haven't heard yet. It was just reported on the local TV station.

201 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:37:33pm

re: #195 Varek Raith

I know North Anna was shut down.
Oh geez, I don't wanna hear "having problems".
:/

Update 3:22 p.m. ET: The North Anna nuclear power plant, which located closest to the epicenter of Tuesday's earthquake in Virginia, is shut down and in a safe condition, a company official and the Louisa County public information office report. There has been no release of nuclear material, Louisa County spokeswoman Amanda Reidelbach said.

202 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:37:38pm

re: #193 thedopefishlives

Define "having problems". Preemptive shutdown or there's coolant leaking all over and they're afraid of a partial meltdown?

Don't know.

203 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:39:19pm

Numerous Injuries, None Serious, In DC After Quake

A District of Columbia fire department spokesman says there are numerous injuries as a result of an earthquake that struck near the nation's capital, but so far there are no reports of serious injuries or deaths.

DC Fire and EMS spokesman Pete Piringer says numerous buildings have been damaged, including the Ecuadorian embassy and a handful of schools.

204 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:39:42pm

re: #196 oaktree

When radioactive zombie Jackson appears and starts taking things out there is a problem...

The original Night of the Living Dead is set in nearby Pennsylvania.

205 Alouenghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:40:00pm

re: #189 Charles

By the way - I'm going to block any new registrations from China. Last night a spammer got in and dumped 10 comments; luckily one of the monitors saw it happening and deleted them almost immediately. And it was apparently a real person, not a bot.

This one got through, but I block out spam attempts from China on a very regular basis -- referrer spam, attempts to use the contact form, etc.

There's almost no valid traffic coming from that country at all.

Is this the "comment spam" where a poster makes some random statements about whatever and has as their "user name" something like "Prada Bags" or "Get Loan Fast" or something like that? Also, just a copy and paste of the article contents.

I hate those fuckers.

206 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:40:24pm

re: #199 Atlas Fails

Dumbasses

207 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:40:55pm

re: #199 Atlas Fails

Taqiyyotomist commented:

We have one of those.

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208 Atlas Fails  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:42:31pm

re: #206 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Dumbasses

I especially love the comment about God punishing teh librul states...like Virginia.

209 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:42:37pm

re: #199 Atlas Fails

Could anyone be dumber than Dim? Yes! His commenters:

Missy8s commented:

Militant Conservative commented:

(?)

SnowSoul commented:


Ginger commented:

Taqiyyotomist commented:

Bunni commented:

Cutlers bad knee commented:

Patty commented:

...and so on. I'm actually pretty impressed these people managed to turn their computers on.

I think they get around it by just leaving them on.

210 Lidanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:43:26pm

re: #208 Atlas Fails

I especially love the comment about God punishing teh librul states...like Virginia.

Heh.

211 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:44:01pm

re: #199 Atlas Fails

Virginia is liberal???
Lol.

212 celticdragon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:44:04pm

We felt the quake fairly well here in Greensboro, NC. I was in class in the basement of the King Building at Guilford College an the tables started shaking. Nobody else had a clue just what it was, and I sullgeste we were experiencing a tremor. I was at the epicenter of the Whittier Narrows Quake many years back, and that one got pretty nasty (It was impossible to get to the doorway. Hell, it was impossible to even stand up. I was being thown around on my bed and I thought the window was going to shatter. I could see cars bouncing around on the street and the trees were going all over the place.)

I recognize we were only getting P-Waves here that had travele some distance, although I had no idea at the time that it was in Virginia.

213 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:44:27pm

re: #208 Atlas Fails

I especially love the comment about God punishing teh librul states...like Virginia.

Remember to let the love of Jesus fill you, or he'll hunt you down and kill you with a fucking natural disaster!

214 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:44:45pm

re: #189 Charles

Seriously? Is there a reason why we don't get the "little fix-it window"?

"I decided not to" is a good enough reason. But, I'm curious.

215 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:45:49pm

re: #208 Atlas Fails

I especially love the comment about God punishing teh librul states...like Virginia.

You just don't understand!

If not for upstanding men like Bob Confederate History Month McDonnell, Pat Robertson, and God's Favorite Patriots at Liberty University, there would have been damage! And DEATH!

God is taking away his protection because of the sins of liberals and the French! But the remnant of the righteous has saaaaaaved ussssss!!!

216 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:46:32pm

re: #206 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Dumbasses

Being a dumbass might actually be an improvement for those people.

//

217 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:47:02pm

re: #211 Varek Raith

Virginia is liberal???
Lol.

Virginia went blue in 2008, and is forever tainted by that fact.

218 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:47:50pm

re: #214 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Seriously? Is there a reason why we don't get the "little fix-it window"?

"I decided not to" is a good enough reason. But, I'm curious.

Mongo not understand your question.

219 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:47:58pm

Terminal A at Washington Reagan National Airport has been evacuated because of an odor of gas, airport spokeswoman Courtney Mickalonis said. Initial sweeps of the building showed no major damage from the earthquake.

220 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:48:21pm

re: #212 celticdragon

We felt the quake fairly well here in Greensboro, NC. I was in class in the basement of the King Building at Guilford College an the tables started shaking. Nobody else had a clue just what it was, and I sullgeste we were experiencing a tremor. I was at the epicenter of the Whittier Narrows Quake many years back, and that one got pretty nasty (It was impossible to get to the doorway. Hell, it was impossible to even stand up. I was being thown around on my bed and I thought the window was going to shatter. I could see cars bouncing around on the street and the trees were going all over the place.)

I recognize we were only getting P-Waves here that had travele some distance, although I had no idea at the time that it was in Virginia.

Guess I should call Dad. He's from California, but been in Greensboro for 20 years. He probably got nostalgic. My stepmother may be having a cow, however.

221 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:48:46pm

You think that God is telling those liberal states to change their ways or else?

them libberuls is everywhere!

222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:50:17pm

re: #218 Charles

Mongo not understand your question.

A while back, you posted that you were toying with the idea of giving folks a minute or so to fix a typo or syntax of a post. I forgot why or if the idea went down the memory hole.

223 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:50:20pm

Once again, we observe that God's wrath looks a lot like nature doing what it does.

re: #219 Varek Raith

Terminal A at Washington Reagan National Airport has been evacuated because of an odor of gas, airport spokeswoman Courtney Mickalonis said. Initial sweeps of the building showed no major damage from the earthquake.

Once again, we observe that God's wrath looks a lot like nature doing what it does.

Once again, we observe that God's wrath looks a lot like nature doing what it does.

This, by the way, is why they add the odor to natural gas. So you can smell leaks.

224 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:50:50pm

re: #223 EmmmieG

Hmmm. My post is a mess. Sorry. Not sure how it got that way, other than my own stupidity.

225 iossarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:50:51pm

OT: In the end, it's all about the oil (always):

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Looks like China may have backed the wrong horse this time.

226 celticdragon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:51:28pm

re: #220 wrenchwench

Guess I should call Dad. He's from California, but been in Greensboro for 20 years. He probably got nostalgic. My stepmother may be having a cow, however.


LOL!

227 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:51:48pm

re: #217 SanFranciscoZionist

Virginia went blue in 2008, and is forever tainted by that fact.

The quake hit just south of NOVA, much bluer than the the rest of VA doncha know!!!

//

228 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:51:52pm

re: #224 EmmmieG

Hmmm. My post is a mess. Sorry. Not sure how it got that way, other than my own stupidity.

It was worth saying several times.

229 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:51:56pm

re: #223 EmmmieG

Every ten or so minutes I get up and smell around the furnace and outside at the gas meter.
Just in case.

230 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:52:03pm

re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

+1

231 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:52:46pm

re: #226 celticdragon

LOL!

Eh, I got the fax machine. My brother-in-law sent an email, which they'll find in the inbox when they check next week or so. Heh.

232 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:53:06pm

re: #229 Varek Raith

Every ten or so minutes I get up and smell around the furnace and outside at the gas meter.
Just in case.

"Listen, do you smell that?"/ghostbusters/

233 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:53:27pm

re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A while back, you posted that you were toying with the idea of giving folks a minute or so to fix a typo or syntax of a post. I forgot why or if the idea went down the memory hole.

As long as people can't facebook troll.

That's where you post an outrageous comment, wait for some indignant responses, then delete your own original comment, making your friends look nuts.

234 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:53:46pm

re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A while back, you posted that you were toying with the idea of giving folks a minute or so to fix a typo or syntax of a post. I forgot why or if the idea went down the memory hole.

Oh, I see. Yeah, that's still on the to-do list. Just haven't gotten to it yet.

235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:55:11pm

re: #232 rwdflynavy

"Listen, do you smell that?"/ghostbusters/

My favorite fucking line from the movie! And I love that movie!

236 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:55:30pm

via TPM:

3:41 PM | @ryanjreilly via Twitter | #
RT @Chris_Moody: Grounds within 1000 feet of Washington Monument closed. Officers screaming "get back!" whenever someone gets near #livewire RT

237 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:55:48pm

re: #219 Varek Raith

Terminal A at Washington Reagan National Airport has been evacuated because of an odor of gas, airport spokeswoman Courtney Mickalonis said. Initial sweeps of the building showed no major damage from the earthquake.

They should check any saggy or soggy pants.

238 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:55:51pm

re: #236 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

via TPM:

3:41 PM | @ryanjreilly via Twitter | #
RT @Chris_Moody: Grounds within 1000 feet of Washington Monument closed. Officers screaming "get back!" whenever someone gets near #livewire RT

Oy.

239 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:55:52pm

The Natl Cathedral site says that it is closed for the afternoon to examine for damage.

Video of the WH and other DC landmarks as seen from nearby cameras when the quake struck:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

240 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:55:58pm

re: #235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My favorite fucking line from the movie! And I love that movie!

Let's split up. Yeah, we can do more damage that way.

241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:56:00pm

re: #233 EmmmieG

As long as people can't facebook troll.

That's where you post an outrageous comment, wait for some indignant responses, then delete your own original comment, making your friends look nuts.

You cut me deep.
/

242 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:56:23pm

re: #237 wrenchwench

They should check any saggy or soggy pants.

Ensign? Bring my brown trousers.

243 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:56:31pm

re: #235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My favorite fucking line from the movie! And I love that movie!

Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"!

244 iossarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:56:46pm

re: #235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My favorite fucking line from the movie! And I love that movie!

Quoting it in text doesn't do it justice though - the little piano trill that goes between the two phrase fragments is what makes it.

245 iossarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:57:38pm

re: #243 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"!

"Now there's something you don't see every day."

(That one always gets me a bit more than the more famous "no-one steps on a church in my town!".)

246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:57:41pm

re: #239 lawhawk

I saw someone on Facebook post that there was a flat-bed truck with a giant blue pill on it heading toward the Washington Monument.

247 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:58:29pm

re: #245 iossarian

"Now there's something you don't see every day."

(That one always gets me a bit more than the more famous "no-one steps on a church in my town!".)

OK, so she's a dog.

248 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:59:05pm

re: #246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I saw someone on Facebook post that there was a flat-bed truck with a giant blue pill on it heading toward the Washington Monument.

That one took a minute to sink in.

249 iossarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:59:10pm

re: #247 rwdflynavy

OK, so she's a dog.

lol

Bill Murray is just on fire in that whole movie.

"Back off, man, I'm a scientist."

250 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:59:12pm

re: #239 lawhawk

The Natl Cathedral site says that it is closed for the afternoon to examine for damage.

Video of the WH and other DC landmarks as seen from nearby cameras when the quake struck:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Dang there are a lot of people on the roof of the White House. And they all decided the right side was the place to be after a quake.

251 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:59:13pm

re: #247 rwdflynavy

OK, so she's a dog.

"Yes, it's true. This man has no dick."

Still cracks me up after all these years.

252 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 12:59:33pm
253 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:00:09pm

re: #239 lawhawk

Updating the update:

The tip of the National Cathedral in Washington spire crashed onto the steps on Pilgrim Road. Three of the four pinnacles of the central tower are down and there’s significant damage, said spokesman Richard Weinberg. No injuries were reported.
254 makeitstopghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:00:23pm

Best quip yet, stolen from Facebook:

Reports that earthquake was upgraded to a 6.0 are false. S&P has just downgraded it to a 5.4.

255 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:00:25pm

re: #251 MrSilverDragon

"Yes, it's true. This man has no dick."

Still cracks me up after all these years.

My personal favorite:

"Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!"

256 Atlas Fails  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:01:04pm

Part 2 of internet time at the [insert stereotypical white trash hangout here].

Carlos, Will, and Andreas displayed conservatives' patented family values:


Carlos commented:

I note the conspicuous absence of the first sow in this touching family outing. Guess they might have trouble finding a bike seat that fits.

WillofLa commented:

Yeah, you’d know that the liberals would have run out of the Capital building like the rats jumping ship that they are. To bad that all, ALL the liberals weren’t in that tunnel going out into Virginia from the Capital and our representatives buildings, and it caved in taking them all out! Then that way the largest majority in Washington would be the conservative Republican’s. Then when Obama came back from Martha’s Vineyard he’d have no one to support his crazy ideas that are destroying this nation. You know that Obama is good friends with Maurice Strong who thinks he runs the world with all his bogus organizations and even more bogus NGO’s. Our conservative Republican’s could defund all the U.N. agreements where we don’t know where the money goes. America could begin returning back to where it ought to be. And if all the liberals were dead, Obama couldn’t do a damn thing to stop it. I would like to see him in a situation like that, and I would like to see America in a situation like that, where we would have a small conservative government that got the things done that it is supposed to do and that’s all.

Andreas K. commented:

BTW, my first thought was “Oh, quake in DC? Michelle O farted?”

I should apologize for that, but I don’t want to.

Proper spacing and capitalization:friend or foe?

Militant Conservative commented:

This just in. America’s soddam

And Gamorrah just hit with

Earthquake.



And of course, criticizing Obama for something the commenter made up on the spot:

Missy8s commented:

Watch how quickly every mine in Virginia and every coal fired plant is taken offline, President Downgrade will definitely blame it all on mining…

Seriously guys, the epicenter was in “Mineral”, VA…

How convenient…

257 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:01:06pm

re: #248 thedopefishlives

That one took a minute to sink in.

At that size, slow is probably better...

...yes, I know. Bad me. No biscuit.

258 iossarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:01:31pm

Peck: What is the "magic word", Dr. Venkman?

Venkman (astounded at Peck's ignorance): "Please".

259 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:01:35pm

re: #250 wrenchwench

Dang there are a lot of people on the roof of the White House. And they all decided the right side was the place to be after a quake.

That's their left though.

260 blueraven  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:02:42pm

re: #239 lawhawk

The Natl Cathedral site says that it is closed for the afternoon to examine for damage.

Video of the WH and other DC landmarks as seen from nearby cameras when the quake struck:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Whoa...those guys on the roof must have been freaking out!

261 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:02:59pm

My son lives in Richmond, VA. 30 miles from the center. Wife is frantically trying to get in touch with him.

Mothers and their damn "worry glands". She's not even Jewish!

I keep texting her back (phone lines are jammed)
"THERE WAS NO DAMAGE IN RICHMOND!"

262 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:03:01pm

re: #250 wrenchwench

But when viewed from the Mall, it's the Left* side that was safe. /it's a conspiracy! /

BTW, that side is the West Wing.

263 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:03:15pm

re: #258 iossarian

Peck: What is the "magic word", Dr. Venkman?

Venkman (astounded at Peck's ignorance): "Please".

That was your whole plan, huh, "get her."

264 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:03:18pm

Closing national monuments while they do a safety check is undoubtedly a good idea.

265 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:03:19pm

re: #259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That's their left though.

I thought about trying to figure out the compass direction, but decided it would take too long. I wonder if they were headed for the hatch to get off the roof.

266 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:03:48pm

re: #259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That's their left though.

See? All "left" is possessive.

267 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:04:15pm

re: #262 lawhawk

But when viewed from the Mall, it's the Left* side that was safe. /it's a conspiracy! /

BTW, that side is the West Wing.

Good thing the First Family is on vacation ... hey, wait a minute...they planned it that way!!!11!

268 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:04:59pm

11,176.76
+322.11 (2.97%)

Closed.

269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:05:21pm

re: #268 Gus 802

11,176.76
+322.11 (2.97%)

Closed.

America? FUCK YEAH!

270 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:05:41pm

re: #197 Shiplord Kirel

Speaking of end-times, I saw the first part of Left Behind a few nights ago. The most amazing part is that millions disappear into thin air one fine day, leaving their clothes, cars, and leashed dogs behind, and the stay-behinds take days to get even an inkling that this may be the actual Rapture. Even then, only a handful suspect "the truth" or, indeed, have ever heard of the concept. It must be happening in an alternate world where the Rapture has not been the subject of non-stop Fundy propaganda for decades.

It all happened so fast. It was like it was a VelociRapture.

271 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:07:10pm

re: #256 Atlas Fails

Part 2 of internet time at the [insert stereotypical white trash hangout here].

Carlos, Will, and Andreas displayed conservatives' patented family values:

WillofLa commented:

Andreas K. commented:

Proper spacing and capitalization:friend or foe?


And of course, criticizing Obama for something the commenter made up on the spot:

If mines and plants are being taken off-line, that's to avoid people dying at their place of employment, not to punish them for working with coal.

I get the feeling Missy doesn't know much about quakes.

272 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:07:58pm

re: #268 Gus 802

11,176.76
+322.11 (2.97%)

Closed.

Nice!

273 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:08:17pm
274 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:08:39pm

Some damage from the virginia earthquake. Tyson's Corner, VA

275 SpaceJesus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:09:49pm

Never change, fox

spud1 1 minute ago

yeah yeah - one hit colorado too. You should have expected this when you elected the antichrist
Like
4 people liked this.

276 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:09:53pm

re: #274 NJDhockeyfan

Some damage from the virginia earthquake. Tyson's Corner, VA

[Video]


Damn. Hope everyone's OK.

277 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:10:12pm

Got a lot of Retweets on this page. Nice.

278 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:10:29pm

re: #271 SanFranciscoZionist

Proper spacing and capitalization:friend or foe?

And of course, criticizing Obama for something the commenter made up on the spot:

If mines and plants are being taken off-line, that's to avoid people dying at their place of employment, not to punish them for working with coal.

I get the feeling Missy doesn't know much about quakes.

Damn government regulations! Let the companies decide whats safe and quit stifling corporate America! If workers die on the job, that simply means new jobs will be available for the unemployed. Why can't the liberals ever think things through?

279 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:11:47pm

re: #271 SanFranciscoZionist

I get the feeling Missy doesn't know much about quakes.

Those stupid hayseeds don't know jack from jump.

280 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:12:48pm

re: #270 lostlakehiker

It all happened so fast. It was like it was a VelociRapture.

Image: philosoraptor-meme-generator-is-tomorrow-rapture-day-or-raptor-day-23e7d2.jpg

281 SpaceJesus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:13:06pm

I guess I'll take this as a sign that my liberal ass should not have been interviewing at the district attorney's office today. Ok dad, I get it.

282 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:14:47pm

re: #274 NJDhockeyfan

BREAKING NEWS! One car was damaged today when a massive earthquake devastated the East Coast of the United States today. Looting has begun...

283 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:15:09pm

re: #281 SpaceJesus

I guess I'll take this as a sign that my liberal ass should not have been interviewing at the district attorney's office today. Ok dad, I get it.

I thought you were going Navy JAG?!!? They'll let you fly an F-14!!!
//

284 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:15:14pm

Nice Tweet:

@SecularLibya MargBar Khamenei
Thank you UN, France (Sarkozy/BHL) NATO UK USA Qatar Tunisia & Denmark. Shame on Russia Belarus China Turkey Syria Iran Venez. #Libya #Feb17

285 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:15:28pm

What is it about natural disasters that bring out the nutters.
Every damn one of them is a sign from god or something.
Couldn't possibly be a natural geologic event. Nope.
Lol.

286 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:15:46pm

re: #282 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

BREAKING NEWS! One car was damaged today when a massive earthquake devastated the East Coast of the United States today. Looting has begun...

Is that you, Fox News?

287 makeitstopghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:15:57pm

Roger Simon horns in for his cut of the Derp.

/facepalm

288 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:16:20pm

re: #282 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

BREAKING NEWS! One car was damaged today when a massive earthquake devastated the East Coast of the United States today. Looting has begun...

FEMA will arrive with water for residents in approximately 30 days.

//

289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:16:26pm

re: #286 MrSilverDragon

Is that you, Fox News?

No. MSNBC...

Women and children most affected...

290 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:16:41pm

re: #282 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

BREAKING NEWS! One car was damaged today when a massive earthquake devastated the East Coast of the United States today. Looting has begun...

I looted a 7-11 for Bud light on the way home. Paid for it, so maybe not really looting....

291 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:17:15pm

re: #288 Gus 802

FEMA will arrive with water for residents in approximately 30 days.

//

I want my free trailer BITCH!!!

292 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:17:25pm

re: #287 makeitstop

Roger Simon horns in for his cut of the Derp.

/facepalm

Yeah, get that guy from accounting to pick up a few dozen bricks.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

293 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:18:23pm

re: #291 rwdflynavy

I want my free trailer BITCH!!!

Did you mean,
I want my free trailer BITCH!!!
or
I want my free trailer, BITCH!!!
:P

294 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:18:30pm

re: #285 Varek Raith

What is it about natural disasters that bring out the nutters.
Every damn one of them is a sign from god or something.
Couldn't possibly be a natural geologic event. Nope.
Lol.

A natural geo-what?

We don't take kindly to your kind around here.

295 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:19:11pm

re: #293 Varek Raith

Did you mean,
I want my free trailer BITCH!!!
or
I want my free trailer, BITCH!!!
:P

Fuckin Godwin Grammar Nazi!!!

296 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:19:20pm

re: #293 Varek Raith

Did you mean,
I want my free trailer BITCH!!!
or
I want my free trailer, BITCH!!!
:P

Yes.

297 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:19:23pm

re: #291 rwdflynavy

I want my free trailer BITCH!!!

I was raised on the dairy bitch!

//

298 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:19:32pm

Libyan wears Gaddafi's hat

299 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:20:15pm

Hi! I'm Kenny Rogers!

//

300 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:20:18pm

re: #295 rwdflynavy

Fuckin Godwin Grammar Nazi!!!

Image: Grammar_Nazi_Logo.jpg

301 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:20:30pm

re: #298 Killgore Trout

Libyan wears Gaddafi's hat

[Video]

Also, Gaddafi's bling.
Heh.

302 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:20:54pm

re: #298 Killgore Trout

Libyan wears Gaddafi's hat

[Video]

Weez in yur base, lootin yur wardrobe!

303 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:21:23pm

re: #300 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Image: Grammar_Nazi_Logo.jpg

304 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:21:35pm

re: #301 Varek Raith

Also, Gaddafi's bling.
Heh.

I guess he decided to leave the shiny purple house dress where it was.

305 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:21:56pm

Drudge's pic of Obama on the golf course is captioned "No shaking there."

These people not only have no shame in their stupidity, they actually seem proud of it.

306 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:22:18pm

HA! Remember the herpty-derpty dim hoft commenter who made a crack about librul states getting their due? Guess whose district the earthquake actually struck?

307 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:22:45pm
308 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:22:50pm

re: #305 Shiplord Kirel

Drudge's pic of Obama on the golf course is captioned "No shaking there."

These people not only have no shame in their stupidity, they actually seem proud of it.

Wingnut America:

We are all socialists idiots now.

309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:23:01pm

Right after the huge Earthquake in Russia in the 80's; A friend of mine was promoted and moved with his wife to a small town to head up his own office.

In their attempt to assimilate they had a card night with some of their new neighbors.

One of their new friends asked conversationally...

"That big Earthquake in Russia. Do you think the United States had anything to do with that?"

He rescinded his acceptance of the promotion and moved the fuck back home.

I am totally serious.

310 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:23:09pm

re: #306 publicityStunted

HA! Remember the herpty-derpty dim hoft commenter who made a crack about librul states getting their due? Guess whose district the earthquake actually struck?

Lol.

311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:23:57pm

re: #293 Varek Raith

Did you mean,
I want my free trailer BITCH!!!
or
I want my free trailer, BITCH!!!
:P

Yes.

312 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:24:09pm

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Right after the huge Earthquake in Russia in the 80's; A friend of mine was promoted and moved with his wife to a small town to head up his own office.

In their attempt to assimilate they had a card night with some of their new neighbors.

One of their new friends asked conversationally...

"That big Earthquake in Russia. Do you think the United States had anything to do with that?"

He rescinded his acceptance of the promotion and moved the fuck back home.

I am totally serious.

We now await the news report of today's earthquake from Russia Today.

//

313 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:24:40pm

re: #312 Gus 802

We now await the news report of today's earthquake from Russia Today.

//

Chuck Norris tripped.

314 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:24:51pm

Drudge video link:

VIDEO: Vacant White House Shakes...

Er, no, Matt, the White House is not vacant. Thousands of people are working there today, as they do every day. The President himself is away, along with some staffers, but that does not empty the house.

315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:24:59pm

I wonder if Al Gore is saying,

"Y'all can't blame this fucker on me!"

316 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:25:24pm

4:20 PM | @ryanjreilly via Twitter | #
Park Police: Washington Monument not leaning, but some 'little, little' pieces fell off #livewire Read More » RT

317 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:25:34pm

re: #306 publicityStunted

HA! Remember the herpty-derpty dim hoft commenter who made a crack about librul states getting their due? Guess whose district the earthquake actually struck?

That's almost too good to be true.

318 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:26:02pm

re: #314 Shiplord Kirel

Drudge video link:

VIDEO: Vacant White House Shakes...

This is the best conservatives have, anymore.

319 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:26:15pm

@maddow Rachel Maddow MSNBC
I'll be on the @Late_Show with David Letterman tonight #YayDrumSoloWeek

320 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:26:31pm

re: #319 Gus 802

@maddow Rachel Maddow MSNBC
I'll be on the @Late_Show with David Letterman tonight #YayDrumSoloWeek

[Link: twitter.com...]

321 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:26:40pm

Someone teach these guys to spin donuts...

Libyan rebels ride on Gaddafi's golf buggy in compound

322 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:27:54pm

re: #281 SpaceJesus

I guess I'll take this as a sign that my liberal ass should not have been interviewing at the district attorney's office today. Ok dad, I get it.

Did you pass the bar on the first try?

323 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:29:15pm

re: #318 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

This is the best conservatives have, anymore.

Should we let them know that the MLK monument officially opened this week?

324 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:29:26pm

Wow...the damage in Virginia is awe-ful!
Image: FamousDC-Earthquake-Devastation.jpg

325 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:30:03pm

re: #321 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Someone teach these guys to spin donuts...

Libyan rebels ride on Gaddafi's golf buggy in compound

Dear god, they're sitting on the leather?

326 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:30:51pm

re: #229 Varek Raith

Every ten or so minutes I get up and smell around the furnace and outside at the gas meter.
Just in case.

IT WAS THE DOG!

327 Lidanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:30:58pm

re: #306 publicityStunted

HA! Remember the herpty-derpty dim hoft commenter who made a crack about librul states getting their due? Guess whose district the earthquake actually struck?

Proof that if there is a god, he's got a sense of humor. LMAO.

328 Idle Drifter  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:31:00pm

re: #313 Varek Raith

Chuck Norris tripped.

Chuck Norris doesn't trip and falls, he plays chicken with the Earth.

329 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:31:05pm

Image: 999x.jpg

WASHINGTON, DC - AUGUST 23: Tourists and government employees fill the National Mall after a 5.9 magnitude earthquake struck the east coast August 23, 2011 in Washington, DC. All the monuments and buildings along the National Mall have been evacuated and closed.

330 leftynyc  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:31:32pm

re: #51 reloadingisnotahobby

Your FIRST???


Mine too. I thought the construction going on in the building got out of hand. Then the fire alarm went off and we had to evacuate the building.

331 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:32:07pm

Off to play Portal 2 with my 7 year old.

When life gives you lemons...

332 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:32:45pm

re: #298 Killgore Trout

333 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:32:51pm

re: #317 Shiplord Kirel

That's almost too good to be true.

But it is:

Back in March, after the Japanese earthquake, Eric Cantor defended Republican plans to cut funding from the USGS and warning systems to help in case of a disaster.

Quake epicenter

The nuke plants

Partial map of Cantor's district

Update: Apparently, budget cuts in the 1990s led to the removal of seismic equipment at the North Anna plant...Cantor was in VA’s House of Delegates from 1992 to 2001, so there’s a decent chance he had a part in those budget cuts.

Wingnuts fail at reading signs from God :P

334 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:32:52pm

What's going on with Washington Monument?

I leave 8 minutes for a movie.

335 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:33:17pm

Image: 999x.jpg

NEW YORK, NY - AUGUST 23: People gather outside an evacuated Manhattan courthouse after an earthquake rattled the city on August 23, 2011 in New York City. The epicenter of the 5.9 earthquake was located near Louisa in central Virginia. Two nuclear power plants at the North Anna Power Station in the same county were reportedly taken offline.

336 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:34:02pm

re: #323 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Should we let them know that the MLK monument officially opened this week?

They already know. They're planning a MBF Reagan Monument across the walkway in hopes of preventing further earthquakes/god's wrath.

337 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:34:17pm

re: #305 Shiplord Kirel

Drudge's pic of Obama on the golf course is captioned "No shaking there."

These people not only have no shame in their stupidity, they actually seem proud of it.

That privileged SOB! A lot of Real Americans would have liked to be on vacation in Martha's Vineyard, away from the earthquake, but noooo, only the President gets to go on vacation when earthquakes hit!

Or something.

338 Lidanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:34:18pm

re: #333 publicityStunted

But it is:

Quake epicenter

The nuke plants

Partial map of Cantor's district

Wingnuts fail at reading signs from God :P

Oh wow. That's priceless.

339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:35:11pm
Breaking News: it's just been established by the administration that the DC earthquake occurred on a rare and obscure faultline, apparently known as "Bush's Fault".

Now that's funny.

340 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:35:13pm

re: #338 Lidane

I don't have time to page it now (leaving in a few min), but if someone else wants to, feel free :)

341 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:35:42pm
342 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:35:48pm

re: #317 Shiplord Kirel

That's almost too good to be true.

Earthquakes are no respecters of congressional districts.

343 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:35:54pm

re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now that's funny.

Lol.
I'd name it that just for the lulz.

344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:36:21pm

re: #324 darthstar

oh the humanity.

345 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:36:42pm

re: #256 Atlas Fails


And of course, criticizing Obama for something the commenter made up on the spot:

Missy8s commented:

Watch how quickly every mine in Virginia and every coal fired plant is taken offline, President Downgrade will definitely blame it all on mining…

Seriously guys, the epicenter was in “Mineral”, VA…

How convenient…

The only quakes we get around here measure about 1.0 and are caused by, ..., you guessed it, mining. Potash mining mostly.

346 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:37:11pm

re: #341 darthstar

The Rapture 2011.

Deserves a million updings.

347 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:37:23pm

re: #334 ProLifeLiberal

What's going on with Washington Monument?

I leave 8 minutes for a movie.

From what I've heard little pieces have fallen off. Some freaked because they thought it was leaning.

348 makeitstopghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:37:44pm

Speaking of small earthquakes - today would have been Moonie's birthday.

349 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:38:21pm

Comprehensive roundup of quake news from DC.

350 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:38:31pm

re: #347 Varek Raith

From what I've heard little pieces have fallen off. Some freaked because they thought it was leaning.

The Leaning Monument of DC

//

351 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:39:25pm

It's odd. Some east coast reporters seem to think you're supposed to evacuate during an earthquake.

Yeah, no.

352 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:39:42pm

re: #350 Gus 802

The Leaning Monument of DC

//

Well, it's DC.
We get a little wind here, nothing.
DC? Trees fall, power goes out.
We get an earthquake here, not much.
DC? Well, you get the idea.
:)

353 Idle Drifter  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:39:46pm

I've been checking out news reports across the country. Apparently people in Livonia, MI were reporting to feeling effects of the Earthquake. Which I find strange as I was sitting on the floor in my mom's quilt shop working on her quilting machine at the time the quake took place. This was in Wyandotte, MI.

354 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:39:47pm

re: #344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

oh the humanity.

Hey

Don't laugh

Someone could have been sitting in that chair at the time!!

[Link: depositphotos.com...]

355 Lidanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:39:50pm

re: #341 darthstar

The Rapture 2011.

"I regret that I have but one upding to give for this post."

356 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:40:27pm

re: #350 Gus 802

The Leaning Monument of DC

//

I am really hoping that nobody tries to come up with a theological explanation for damage to the Washington monument.

Tall, thing buildings often don't do well in an earthquake works for me.

357 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:40:41pm

apparently federal law requires that cable teevee news will broadcast nothing but earthquake news for the entire day

358 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:41:15pm

re: #356 EmmmieG

I am leaving now until I learn to proof read my own posts.

thin

359 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:41:22pm

re: #356 EmmmieG

I am really hoping that nobody tries to come up with a theological explanation for damage to the Washington monument.

Tall, thing buildings often don't do well in an earthquake works for me.

Freemasons had a lot to do with it.

360 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:41:32pm

re: #351 Obdicut

It's odd. Some east coast reporters seem to think you're supposed to evacuate during an earthquake.

Yeah, no.

Human instinct.
My first reaction was to get out of the house.

361 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:41:40pm

re: #351 Obdicut

It's odd. Some east coast reporters seem to think you're supposed to evacuate during an earthquake.

Yeah, no.

No. No. No. Indoors is better than outdoors. Trees and broken glass and power lines and parts of buildings and all sort of godawful things can fall on you if you're outside.

362 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:41:55pm

Not Joe the not plumber is going to be not a congressman.
[Link: www.politico.com...]

See what happens when we pay attention to these fucking idiots?(Wurzelbacher, Palin, Santorum, etc.)...they think we owe them something.

363 jaunte  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:42:19pm

re: #347 Varek Raith

From what I've heard little pieces have fallen off. Some freaked because they thought it was leaning.

MartinMMC:

FOX News reporting the Washington Monument is leaning to the right, MSNBC reporting to the left.
364 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:42:32pm

re: #356 EmmmieG

I am really hoping that nobody tries to come up with a theological explanation for damage to the Washington monument.

Tall, thing buildings often don't do well in an earthquake works for me.

They will come up with a theological explanation for that, and also for the apparent damage to the Washington cathedral.

365 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:43:11pm

re: #364 SanFranciscoZionist

They will come up with a theological explanation for that, and also for the apparent damage to the Washington cathedral.

And that the epicenter was in Eric Cantor's district.
I iz having fun with the wingnuts.

366 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:43:35pm

re: #361 SanFranciscoZionist

No. No. No. Indoors is better than outdoors. Trees and broken glass and power lines and parts of buildings and all sort of godawful things can fall on you if you're outside.

But if you're in a non-code building (which would be all of them on the East Coast, I'm thinking) you are supposed to evacuate.

367 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:43:37pm

re: #351 Obdicut

It's odd. Some east coast reporters seem to think you're supposed to evacuate during an earthquake.

Yeah, no.

Depends on the building age. If you're in a modern high rise and one that's been either constructed or retrofitted with seismic consideration then yes. If you're in some old crumbling building? I'd get out.

368 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:43:54pm

re: #361 SanFranciscoZionist

No. No. No. Indoors is better than outdoors. Trees and broken glass and power lines and parts of buildings and all sort of godawful things can fall on you if you're outside.

That's one thing we go over during geology.

Movies aside, very few people die in an earthquake because the ground opens up and swallows them. Most have something land on their head.

Also, people rarely die because of hot lava. It's almost always really hot gases.

369 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:43:59pm

re: #366 Obdicut

But if you're in a non-code building (which would be all of them on the East Coast, I'm thinking) you are supposed to evacuate.

After! you're supposed to evacuate after it's over. So that if the building your'e in then falls down, you won't be in it.

370 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:44:28pm

re: #347 Varek Raith

From what I've heard little pieces have fallen off. Some freaked because they thought it was leaning.

Where was Chicken Little?

371 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:44:37pm

re: #366 Obdicut

But if you're in a non-code building (which would be all of them on the East Coast, I'm thinking) you are supposed to evacuate.

Exactly. So if you're in the Capitol Building? I'd run out and get as far away as possible.

372 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:44:38pm

Best pic of Perry yet (from dKos) Apparently, he's got a thing for porn.

373 makeitstopghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:44:50pm

re: #366 Obdicut

But if you're in a non-code building (which would be all of them on the East Coast, I'm thinking) you are supposed to evacuate.

Sure, now you tell me.
/

374 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:45:14pm

re: #367 Gus 802

Depends on the building age. If you're in a modern high rise and one that's been either constructed or retrofitted with seismic consideration then yes. If you're in some old crumbling building? I'd get out.

Even if you're in an old one, you're better off staying in it. I know it's counter-intuitive, but unless you can sprint in 30 seconds to a perfectly empty field, you're more likely to just get showered with falling glass, parts of a cathedral, etc.

After it's over, get the fuck out, taking due care to look out for power lines and newly-weak roadways.

375 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:46:06pm

re: #371 Gus 802

Exactly. So if you're in the Capitol Building? I'd run out and get as far away as possible.

No, sorry, I corrected myself afterwards.

You're not even going to be able to make it out of the building in most earthquakes. Find a load-bearing internal wall, or even just get under a sturdy desk. And get away from glass.

Outside, what you get is a ton of glass. Very bad.

376 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:46:13pm
377 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:46:16pm

re: #366 Obdicut

But if you're in a non-code building (which would be all of them on the East Coast, I'm thinking) you are supposed to evacuate.

Huh.

378 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:46:29pm

re: #374 Obdicut

Even if you're in an old one, you're better off staying in it. I know it's counter-intuitive, but unless you can sprint in 30 seconds to a perfectly empty field, you're more likely to just get showered with falling glass, parts of a cathedral, etc.

After it's over, get the fuck out, taking due care to look out for power lines and newly-weak roadways.

It depends on the location. So if you're in NYC then you might get clocked or squished by another building. I'd rather decide for myself. I remember when they told everybody to get back into the WTC on 9/11.

379 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:46:31pm

How long before the TRUTHERS put this all together?

Just like Bush being (conveniently,, nudge nudge,, wink wink) in Florida during 9/11, Obama is ON AN ISLAND ,, ISOLATED,,,PROTECTED, when the quake hits the DC area!!!

HE KNEW BEFOREHAND!!!!

THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES

Someone, give me Alex Jones phone number!!

380 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:46:44pm

re: #377 SanFranciscoZionist

Huh.

No, sorry, I just left out the word 'after' at the end of that post.

Now i'm the one wanting the edit function.

381 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:46:57pm

re: #370 b_sharp

Where was Chicken Little?

I ated it!!

{burp}

382 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:47:01pm

re: #364 SanFranciscoZionist

They will come up with a theological explanation for that, and also for the apparent damage to the Washington cathedral.

Libbarul black liberation theology social gospel cultural marxists!

383 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:48:56pm

re: #381 sattv4u2

I ated it!!

{burp}

Foxy Loxy, is that you?

384 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:49:10pm

re: #380 Obdicut

No, sorry, I just left out the word 'after' at the end of that post.

Now i'm the one wanting the edit function.

After, or during. It depends on the circumstance. The general rule is to stay inside. But anything can happen. It would be rather absurd to stay inside a building that's on the verge of collapsing or in the midst of collapsing if you have an easy way to get out during the event.

385 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:49:25pm

re: #378 Gus 802

It depends on the location. So if you're in NYC then you might get clocked or squished by another building. I'd rather decide for myself. I remember when they told everybody to get back into the WTC on 9/11.

Well, of course you'll decide for yourself. But staying inside a building-- other than one where it's unsafe at all times, in which case, you know, why are you there in the first place? Or in a greenhouse or something-- is the best course of action.

You don't have to follow the advice. But outside the cathedral was a lot more dangerous than inside it, during this last quake.

Oh, you also get falling air conditioners outside. Those are fun.

386 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:49:26pm

re: #383 b_sharp

Foxy Loxy, is that you?

Nahh,, Just (formerly) Starvin Satty

387 zora  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:50:15pm

re: #367 Gus 802

no building in dc are taller then the washington monument. so that's a good thing.

388 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:50:54pm

If I wanted to become a Marxist, what would I have to learn to want?

389 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:51:26pm

re: #388 b_sharp

If I wanted to become a Marxist, what would I have to learn to want?

Don't worry

We'll tell you!

390 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:51:36pm

Anywho. Not interested in being a Boy Scout here.

391 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:51:45pm

re: #384 Gus 802

After, or during. It depends on the circumstance. The general rule is to stay inside. But anything can happen. It would be rather absurd to stay inside a building that's on the verge of collapsing or in the midst of collapsing if you have an easy way to get out during the event.

It may sound absurd, but you're not even probably going to make it outside the building if you start running the second that it starts, not if you're in a building of any size. And it's safer to be inside a collapsing building near an interior wall than it is to be directly outside that same building.

392 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:52:22pm

re: #390 Gus 802

Anywho. Not interested in being a Boy Scout here.

That's good, cause you're too old.

393 Idle Drifter  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:52:28pm

re: #378 Gus 802

Gut check time when comes to disasters. I'd risk arrest if meant I had a chance to get out on area I had no desire to hang around.

394 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:53:16pm

re: #392 b_sharp

That's good, cause you're too old.

ouch

395 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:54:29pm

re: #392 b_sharp

That's good, cause you're too old.

or maybe not!!

[Link: missoulian.com...]

396 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:55:38pm

re: #391 Obdicut

It may sound absurd, but you're not even probably going to make it outside the building if you start running the second that it starts, not if you're in a building of any size. And it's safer to be inside a collapsing building near an interior wall than it is to be directly outside that same building.

You're forgetting the risk of fires which can spread rather quickly during such an event. Yes, there are those hazards during an earthquake which can be mitigated during such an event. But you have to be under a shear or bearing wall for it to have any effect. If you place yourself under a partition wall it won't make much difference. So unless you know exactly where that shear or bearing wall is you'd be SOL. There are atypical situation depending on when and how the building was designed. I'd rather let the event guide me as they occur rather then letting a hard and fast rule dictate my behavior.

397 Alexzander  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:56:16pm

Afternoon all...

398 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:56:26pm

re: #383 b_sharp

Foxy Loxy, is that you?

Is Foxy Loxy responsible for the McFoxy franchise?

399 Alexzander  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:59:37pm

Ben Stein (of all people) destroying Bill O'Reilly last night on the economy:

400 Idle Drifter  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 1:59:50pm

re: #398 NJDhockeyfan

Damn it you're making me hungry!

401 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:00:11pm

re: #398 NJDhockeyfan

Is Foxy Loxy responsible for the McFoxy franchise?

[Video]

I've always wanted my meat on a stick.

402 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:00:39pm

re: #401 b_sharp

I've always wanted my meat on a stick.

Thats what she said

403 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:01:13pm

re: #396 Gus 802

You're forgetting the risk of fires which can spread rather quickly during such an event.

Not really, no. Evacuating during the 5-30 seconds the earthquake lasts is not really going to improve your chances of surviving any ensuing fire by any significant degree.

Heh. Did you know one signficant source of fires after the 1906 earthquake in San Francisco was people setting fire to their homes? They had fire insurance, you see, but not earthquake.

. So unless you know exactly where that shear or bearing wall is you'd be SOL.

That much is true. I think part of the thingy here is that I'm San Franciscan, and I know where the load-bearing walls are because all this earthquake survival stuff has been drilled into me since I was young.

There are atypical situation depending on when and how the building was designed. I'd rather let the event guide me as they occur rather then letting a hard and fast rule dictate my behavior.

In reality, you or I will probably panic and do whatever. Since I'm a San Franciscan, I'll probably scramble for the interior load-bearing wall and stick there like a mollusk of some description.

My friend was outside during the 1989 earthquake, and got to see the air conditioners dropping and smashing. He said that was the craziest bit, like everyone had gone rock star at once and thrown them out the window.

404 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:01:52pm

re: #400 Idle Drifter

Damn it you're making me hungry!

Richman, Zimmern and Bourdain are back to back to back on the Travel Channel as soon as I get to work at night

After No Reservations is over, I spend the rest of the night/ morning pigging out

{burp}

405 Neutral President  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:02:12pm

re: #379 sattv4u2

How long before the TRUTHERS put this all together?

Just like Bush being (conveniently,, nudge nudge,, wink wink) in Florida during 9/11, Obama is ON AN ISLAND ,, ISOLATED,,,PROTECTED, when the quake hits the DC area!!!

HE KNEW BEFOREHAND!!!

THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES

Someone, give me Alex Jones phone number!!

I wouldn't be surprised if there's already crap on PrisonPlanet about HAARP or Satellites with MASERs on them causing the quake.

406 Alexzander  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:03:13pm

re: #405 ArchangelMichael

I wouldn't be surprised if there's already crap on PrisonPlanet about HAARP or Satellites with MASERs on them causing the quake.

Everytime any weather event happens there will be a chorus of conspirators claiming that it was intentially caused by HAARP.

I really wish I actually understood HAARP.

407 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:03:42pm

re: #404 sattv4u2

Richman, Zimmern and Bourdain are back to back to back on the Travel Channel as soon as I get to work at night

After No Reservations is over, I spend the rest of the night/ morning pigging out

{burp}

Are you as wide as you are tall yet?

408 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:03:59pm

re: #404 sattv4u2

Richman, Zimmern and Bourdain are back to back to back on the Travel Channel as soon as I get to work at night

After No Reservations is over, I spend the rest of the night/ morning pigging out

{burp}

My mom has a huge crush on Anthony Bourdain. She was devastated when she found out he was married.

409 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:04:26pm

re: #406 Alexzander

Everytime any weather event happens there will be a chorus of conspirators claiming that it was intentially caused by HAARP.

I really wish I actually understood HAARP.

You will when you die, go to heaven and become a harp playing angel.

410 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:04:55pm

re: #408 NJDhockeyfan

My mom has a huge crush on Anthony Bourdain. She was devastated when she found out he was married.

So was Bourdain.

411 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:05:13pm

re: #407 b_sharp

Are you as wide as you are tall yet?

I'm in shape

((round is a shape, right??))

412 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:05:23pm

The local supermarket is packed.
Lol.

413 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:05:24pm

re: #410 Obdicut

So was Bourdain.

His wife is a hottie.

414 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:05:47pm

re: #412 Varek Raith

The local supermarket is packed.
Lol.

Milk & bread!

415 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:06:44pm

re: #403 Obdicut

Not really, no. Evacuating during the 5-30 seconds the earthquake lasts is not really going to improve your chances of surviving any ensuing fire by any significant degree.

Heh. Did you know one signficant source of fires after the 1906 earthquake in San Francisco was people setting fire to their homes? They had fire insurance, you see, but not earthquake.

That much is true. I think part of the thingy here is that I'm San Franciscan, and I know where the load-bearing walls are because all this earthquake survival stuff has been drilled into me since I was young.

In reality, you or I will probably panic and do whatever. Since I'm a San Franciscan, I'll probably scramble for the interior load-bearing wall and stick there like a mollusk of some description.

My friend was outside during the 1989 earthquake, and got to see the air conditioners dropping and smashing. He said that was the craziest bit, like everyone had gone rock star at once and thrown them out the window.

I was in South of Market during Loma Prieta in a high rise. I was the first one under a door. Not the geologists. Not the seismic experts. Not the engineers. I was the first one there. When one of those highly educated geologists saw me under the door jamb he screamed in his British accent, "everyone under a door!" After it finished we evacuated the building. This was while working for Dames and Moore. One of the other geologists just stood in front of a window watching the earthquake in amazement. When a high rise is rocking you can't really walk or run very far.

416 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:06:48pm

re: #411 sattv4u2

I'm in shape

((round is a shape, right??))

I guess so. My wife keeps telling me she hates me being around.

417 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:07:27pm

re: #414 NJDhockeyfan

Milk & bread!

It'll be worse Saturday with all the people freaking over Irene.
I'm already prepared.
Silly procrastinators.

418 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:07:43pm

re: #415 Gus 802

Heh. I miss all the good earthquakes. I rarely notice them when they happen, either, I just think I'm dizzy for a second.

419 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:08:00pm

re: #416 b_sharp

I guess so. My wife keeps telling me she hates me being around.

We agree with her!

420 Idle Drifter  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:08:13pm

re: #398 NJDhockeyfan

McFoxy's looks awesome! Please import!

421 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:08:29pm

re: #418 Obdicut

Heh. I miss all the good earthquakes. I rarely notice them when they happen, either, I just think I'm dizzy for a second.

I never notice them anymore.

422 Neutral President  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:08:33pm

re: #406 Alexzander

Everytime any weather event happens there will be a chorus of conspirators claiming that it was intentially caused by HAARP.

I really wish I actually understood HAARP.

HAARP

423 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:08:44pm

re: #419 sattv4u2

We agree with her!

She's always right.

424 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:08:55pm

re: #417 Varek Raith

It'll be worse Saturday with all the people freaking over Irene.
I'm already prepared.
Silly procrastinators.

Me too. Instead of milk & bread I have a good supply of steak & beer.

425 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:11:11pm

re: #420 Idle Drifter

McFoxy's looks awesome! Please import!

Foxy balls!

426 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:11:24pm

re: #418 Obdicut

Heh. I miss all the good earthquakes. I rarely notice them when they happen, either, I just think I'm dizzy for a second.

I had nightmares for a year after that. It sucked. I walked under an overpass and heard it creek a week after the earthquake. I temped somewhere near market and could feel the building shake every time a bus or truck went by. I saw old buildings covered in metal wire fencing from top to bottom. Before the earthquake I was working in some old piece of junk on Maiden Lane. On the top floor. It was Jane Fonda's old aerobics studio. Earthquakes give me the creeps.

427 Idle Drifter  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:12:32pm

re: #425 NJDhockeyfan

Foxy balls!

Capitalism at its best. Giving a huge middle finger at the world wide Juggernaut.

428 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:12:52pm

Why do I have to have a passport to visit the US now? I used to be able to just drive up to customs, tell them I'm going to buy a shit load of alcohol and they'd let me head south.

This passport stuff is annoying.

429 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:12:52pm

And the anti-choice crowd has embraced a new meme:

“Pregnancy is Not a Disease”: Birth of an Anti-Contraception Rallying Cry


"Contraception does not fall within the category of preventative health services. These drugs, devices, and procedures prevent the bringing of children into the world. Contraception only prevents disease or serious illness if one considers pregnancy to be a disease or serious illness. Pregnancy is not an illness or disease, nor are children the side effect or the unintended by-product of disease."
430 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:13:32pm

Back down to a 5.8.

431 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:13:59pm

re: #428 b_sharp

Why do I have to have a passport to visit the US now? I used to be able to just drive up to customs, tell them I'm going to buy a shit load of alcohol and they'd let me head south.

This passport stuff is annoying.

It's Mexico's fault.

432 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:15:40pm

re: #431 wrenchwench

It's Mexico's fault.

So is my heartburn!

{burp}

433 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:16:57pm

re: #431 wrenchwench

It's Mexico's fault.

Yah, but I have 'harmless canuck' tattooed across my forehead. Surely that should count for something.

434 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:16:57pm

re: #429 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And the anti-choice crowd has embraced a new meme:

“Pregnancy is Not a Disease”: Birth of an Anti-Contraception Rallying Cry

I know two women who were so at risk of dying if they got pregnant again that they got sterilized.

435 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:17:36pm

re: #433 b_sharp

Yah, but I have 'harmless canuck' tattooed across my forehead. Surely that should count for something.

Gets you a free hockey puck!

436 Alexzander  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:17:48pm

re: #422 ArchangelMichael

HAARP

I've read that wikipedia page a couple times already - I'm just not well versed in the science/technology to be able to grasp it well.

The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is an ionospheric research program jointly funded by the US Air Force, the US Navy, the University of Alaska and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).
Built by BAE Advanced Technologies (BAEAT), its purpose is to analyze the ionosphere and investigate the potential for developing ionospheric enhancement technology for radio communications and surveillance purposes.

So its for radio communications and surveillance, whereas the conspiracy theorists claim it is a kind of weapon. I have no idea what 'exciting the ionosphere' means so I cant really ajudicate the claims.

437 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:17:50pm

re: #433 b_sharp

Yah, but I have 'harmless canuck' tattooed across my forehead. Surely that should count for something.

You would not believe how many people try to sneak across the southern US border with that tattoo.

438 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:18:44pm

re: #435 sattv4u2

Gets you a free hockey puck!

Like I don't have a dozen of those already.

I'm going to dig a tunnel under the border. Screw the passport.

439 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:18:51pm

re: #431 wrenchwench

It's Mexico's fault.

Illegal immigrants are unbalancing the continent!!1 That's what caused the earthquake!!!11

440 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:20:03pm

re: #438 b_sharp

Like I don't have a dozen of those already.

I'm going to dig a tunnel under the border. Screw the passport.

Have you considered a trebuchet?

441 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:20:35pm

re: #440 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Have you considered a trebuchet?

Giant.
Sling.
Shot.

442 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:20:51pm

We are all gonna die.
this statement is true

443 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:20:56pm

re: #437 wrenchwench

You would not believe how many people try to sneak across the southern US border with that tattoo.

I think they're going in the wrong direction. Besides, canucks wear toques.

444 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:20:56pm

re: #437 wrenchwench

You would not believe how many people try to sneak across the southern US border with that tattoo.

It's a distraction

What they're REALLY trying to sneak by with is the replacement anal sphincters

[Link: parhamsurgerycenter.com...]

445 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:21:35pm

re: #438 b_sharp

Like I don't have a dozen of those already.

I'm going to dig a tunnel under the border. Screw the passport.

Thats because they're free!!

Geeezzz,.,,, pay attention!

446 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:21:41pm

re: #444 sattv4u2

It's a distraction

What they're REALLY trying to sneak by with is the replacement anal sphincters

[Link: parhamsurgerycenter.com...]

SMACK!

447 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:22:15pm

re: #440 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Have you considered a trebuchet?

I hear the landing can be dicey.
Mind you broken limbs and joints are covered under our health system...

448 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:22:48pm

Blech! Too HOT. Shower time. Later.

449 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:22:57pm

re: #441 Varek Raith

Giant.
Sling.
Shot.

Just don't get it from ACME

(ask Wyle E Coyote)

450 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:23:27pm

re: #444 sattv4u2

It's a distraction

What they're REALLY trying to sneak by with is the replacement anal sphincters

[Link: parhamsurgerycenter.com...]

Just a bunch of wannabe assholes.

451 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:23:38pm

re: #443 b_sharp

I think they're going in the wrong direction. Besides, canucks wear toques.

Too hot for toques down here. Hence, the tattoo.

452 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:23:45pm

re: #442 Cannadian Club Akbar

We are all gonna die.
this statement is true

Speak for yourself. I've made arrangements.

453 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:24:11pm

re: #452 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speak for yourself. I've made arrangements.

I plan on living forever

So Far, So Good!

454 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:24:22pm

re: #452 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speak for yourself. I've made arrangements.

With Stan?

455 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:24:22pm

re: #452 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speak for yourself. I've made arrangements.

I'm going to have my body frozen.

456 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:25:08pm

re: #453 sattv4u2

I plan on living forever

So Far, So Good!

I've lived all my life and I haven't died yet.

457 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:25:09pm

re: #455 b_sharp

I'm going to have my body frozen.

well DUH ,

Canada,,, Winter


YOU do the math!

458 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:25:49pm

re: #457 sattv4u2

well DUH ,

Canada,,, Winter

YOU do the math!

Get drunk. Walk outside. Fall over. Done.

459 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:26:07pm

re: #457 sattv4u2

well DUH ,

Canada,,, Winter

YOU do the math!

Can't. I used my math texts for kindling last winter.

460 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:26:17pm

re: #456 b_sharp

I've lived all my life and I haven't died yet.

Well, once in college, but that was just experimenting...

461 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:26:17pm

re: #458 Cannadian Club Akbar

Get drunk. Walk outside. Fall over. Done.

So no different than your daily routine

462 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:26:50pm

re: #458 Cannadian Club Akbar

Get drunk. Walk outside. Fall over. Done.

Doesn't work. The alcohol acts as anti-freeze.

463 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:28:42pm

re: #460 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, once in college, but that was just experimenting...

Some cowards do it thousands of times.

464 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:29:36pm

re: #462 b_sharp

Doesn't work. The alcohol acts as anti-freeze.

I once saw a play where alcohol acted as King Lear!

I think Dan Akroyd, another fine Canadian actor, played the a bit part also, but I don't think he was drunk at the time

465 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:29:47pm

"Choice Fox News page comment about the earthquake. The bolded portion actually shows up there as 18 point font. The rest is in /wingnut:

thomas cook.cook 1 minute ago

Obama = 666 = Mabus

"The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?” The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world."
Revelation 13:3

It's basically calling Obama the Anti-Christ.

466 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:30:45pm

re: #462 b_sharp

Doesn't work. The alcohol acts as anti-freeze.

Scientifical mumbojumbo!

467 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:31:14pm

re: #456 b_sharp

I've lived all my life and I haven't died yet.

AKA the "Australian attitude".

Two guys i was biking with in the outback many many years ago responded in that very fashion when confronted with the idea of snakes, spiders, dehydration and general natural carnage wreaked upon humans there.

468 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:32:06pm

re: #465 Dark_Falcon

"Choice Fox News page comment about the earthquake. The bolded portion actually shows up there as 18 point font. The rest is in /wingnut:

thomas cook.cook 1 minute ago

Obama = 666 = Mabus

It's basically calling Obama the Anti-Christ.

Anti Christ
or
Central Virginia Seismic Zone.
Hmm. Which sounds sexier?

469 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:32:06pm

re: #465 Dark_Falcon

"Choice Fox News page comment about the earthquake. The bolded portion actually shows up there as 18 point font. The rest is in /wingnut:

thomas cook.cook 1 minute ago

Obama = 666 = Mabus

It's basically calling Obama the Anti-Christ.

And a reply:

Canis Dirus [Moderator] Just now in reply to thomas cook.cook
LOL ... he's got a 40% approval rating at home.

No worries mr. conspiracy.

470 William of Orange  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:32:40pm

I think it was God showing Bachmann he did not choose her to run.

471 makeitstopghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:32:51pm

re: #465 Dark_Falcon

"Choice Fox News page comment about the earthquake. The bolded portion actually shows up there as 18 point font. The rest is in /wingnut:

thomas cook.cook 1 minute ago

Obama = 666 = Mabus

It's basically calling Obama the Anti-Christ.

Oh, boy.

472 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:32:57pm

re: #463 b_sharp

Some cowards do it thousands of times.

Does le petit mort count?

473 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:32:58pm

re: #464 sattv4u2

I once saw a play where alcohol acted as King Lear!

I think Dan Akroyd, another fine Canadian actor, played the a bit part also, but I don't think he was drunk at the time

Great Thespian story from the West End -

Peter O'Toole is out drinking with an old friend one lunch time, his friend suggests they round off lunch with a matinee...........

about halfway through O'Toole sits up and says........"ah, now we get to the good bit, this is where I....oh, shit....."

474 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:33:18pm

The epicenter was in Eric Cantor's district.
Which clearly means that is was simply in Eric Cantor's district.
/Fun with wingnuts.

475 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:33:44pm

re: #465 Dark_Falcon

"Choice Fox News page comment about the earthquake. The bolded portion actually shows up there as 18 point font. The rest is in /wingnut:

thomas cook.cook 1 minute ago

Obama = 666 = Mabus

It's basically calling Obama the Anti-Christ.

OK, you're an idiot. Thanks for clearing that up for us, Thomas."

476 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:33:46pm

re: #474 Varek Raith

The epicenter was in Eric Cantor's district.
Which clearly means that is was simply in Eric Cantor's district.
/Fun with wingnuts.

Maybe *it* broke his window.....

477 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:35:00pm

re: #475 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OK, you're an idiot. Thanks for clearing that up for us, Thomas."

well he made it to LGF...probably his dream come true

478 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:40:16pm

re: #472 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Does le petit mort count?

It all adds up.

479 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:40:32pm

re: #477 albusteve

well he made it to LGF...probably his dream come true

I know it was yours!!!
//

480 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:41:15pm

re: #478 b_sharp

It all adds up.

I thought you couldn't do the math due to burning the text books!

481 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:41:21pm

re: #478 b_sharp

It all adds up.

Everything adds up - you just need a big enough blackboard and infinite supply of chalk.

482 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:42:29pm

re: #475 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OK, you're an idiot. Thanks for clearing that up for us, Thomas."

I doubt Thomas can think clearly.

483 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:42:46pm

re: #472 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Does le petit mort count?

We have one of those in Atlanta

[Link: petitemorte.com...]

484 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:43:26pm

re: #482 b_sharp

I doubt Thomas can think clearly.

he could if he TRAINed

485 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:44:08pm

re: #480 sattv4u2

I thought you couldn't do the math due to burning the text books!

Damn, foiled again.

I tip my hat to your observational skills, sir.

486 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:44:45pm

re: #482 b_sharp

I doubt Thomas can think clearly.

re: #484 sattv4u2

he could if he TRAINed

[Link: www.kids-birthday-party-guide.com...]

((note to self,,, make sure the punchline is included BEFORE hitting Post This Comment))

487 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:44:53pm

re: #484 sattv4u2

he could if he TRAINed

I think he's already jumped the track.

488 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:45:36pm

re: #485 b_sharp

Damn, foiled again.

I tip my hat to your observational skills, sir.

Next, you'll be burning the hat
[Link: scornedacorns.blogspot.com...]

489 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:46:20pm

Lol.
Mediamatters commentor on the blame Obama thing.

Sun expected to burn out in 5 billion years - Obama eats ham sandwich.
490 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:46:28pm

re: #482 b_sharp

I doubt Thomas can think clearly.

His ability to interpret phenomena is limited to what he read in the Bible. Any alternative is "GODLESS ATHEISM!!!11".

491 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:46:56pm

re: #486 sattv4u2

re: #484 sattv4u2

[Link: www.kids-birthday-party-guide.com...]

((note to self,,, make sure the punchline is included BEFORE hitting Post This Comment))

I got the joke without being side tracked by the pic.

492 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:47:14pm

DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT

Gotta run up to the store

Making Beef Stir Fry for din-din and I have NO soy sauce

493 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:48:24pm

re: #488 sattv4u2

Next, you'll be burning the hat
[Link: scornedacorns.blogspot.com...]

What's wrong with my hat?

494 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:49:11pm

re: #492 sattv4u2

DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT

Gotta run up to the store

Making Beef Stir Fry for din-din and I have NO soy sauce

Are you inviting any of us?

495 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:49:17pm

re: #493 b_sharp

What's wrong with my hat?

Nothing

umm,,, can you turn your head to the left. Channel 7 is coming in a tad fuzzy

496 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:49:35pm

re: #494 b_sharp

Are you inviting any of us?

Sure,,, I invite you to go to the store for me

497 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:49:51pm

FREAKOUT
Sheesh.

498 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:50:50pm

re: #490 Dark_Falcon

His ability to interpret phenomena is limited to what he read in the Bible. Any alternative is "GODLESS ATHEISM!!!11".

That may be true but I'm doubting Thomas.

499 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:51:58pm

re: #496 sattv4u2

Sure,,, I invite you to go to the store for me

I have lots of Soy Sauce here. The wife stocks several brands.

500 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:52:32pm

re: #498 b_sharp

That may be true but I'm doubting Thomas.

Helen?
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

501 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:52:50pm

re: #499 b_sharp

I have lots of Soy Sauce here. The wife stocks several brands.

You live in a grocery store?

502 jaunte  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:53:11pm

Breaking news on the Michael Morton murder case in Texas:

Williamson County District Attorney John Bradley’s office filed a legal brief today asking a judge to keep Bradley on the Michael Morton case in the wake of new DNA evidence that has raised questions about Morton’s 1987 murder conviction.

The Innocence Project of New York, which is representing Morton, is seeking to remove Bradley from the case in favor of an independent prosecutor.

Bradley, the Innocence Project argued in a motion filed last week, cannot be trusted to oversee the Morton investigation because of animosity toward Morton’s lawyers and because Bradley opposed new DNA testing of evidence in the case.

District Judge Billy Ray Stubblefield will hold a 3 p.m. hearing today on the request. [Link: www.statesman.com...]


TexasTribune tweets:

Judge won't force Williamson County DA John Bradley to recuse himself in Michael Morton murder case.
503 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:53:41pm

re: #500 sattv4u2

Helen?
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

You just burned out my eyes.

I guess I'll just have to feel my way around.

504 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:54:19pm

re: #501 sattv4u2

You live in a grocery store?

Yes and no.

505 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:54:24pm

re: #503 b_sharp

You just burned out my eyes.

I guess I'll just have to feel my way around.

Well,, if you feel any soy sauce, pass it over and save me the trip

506 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:56:03pm

re: #505 sattv4u2

Well,, if you feel any soy sauce, pass it over and save me the trip

Time to go pick up the wife. I'll BBL.

I'll mail you the sauce.

507 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:56:38pm

re: #506 b_sharp

Time to go pick up the wife. I'll BBL.

I'll mail you the sauce.

That comment is dripping with sarcasm!

508 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:57:12pm

re: #507 sattv4u2

That comment is dripping with sarcasm!

No, that's soy sauce.

509 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:57:13pm

re: #507 sattv4u2

That comment is dripping with sarcasm!

Was the sarcasm BBQ flavor, at least?

510 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 2:57:32pm

Prayers to Pat Summit and her family/ friends


[Link: rivals.yahoo.com...]

Pat Summitt, at just age 59, has been diagnosed with early onset dementia.

511 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:01:41pm

Perry a fan of Glenn Beck's favorite book:


Two years ago, the Republican candidate traveled to a major religious right gathering in D.C. and told attendees what was on his reading list.

“Lately,” said Perry, “I’ve found myself going back to a book that’s titled ‘The 5,000 Year Leap.’”

There were head nods and noises of approval from many members of the audience. That book, written by the late ultra-conservative scholar-cum-conspiracy theorists Cleon Skousen, had been rescued from 28 years of obscurity by Glenn Beck. Perry gave an accurate summary of its content, telling the audiences that Skousen “shares his views of the foundational elements of our nation, placing a special emphasis in faith in God — I think undeniably a source of America’s remarkable success. He asserts that natural law, God’s law, is the basis of our nation’s laws.”

512 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:01:47pm

Perry, Romney Join In Call For Civil Rights For America's Oppressed Corporations

"I have a dream today, that someday this nation will rise up and live out the meaning of its greed!"

Romney Offers Tearful Rendition of "Corporations Are People Too Ya Know (sniff)"

513 mikec6666  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:02:09pm

i'm over on the dingbat site picking fights

514 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:02:49pm

Hmmm...

515 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:02:51pm

re: #513 mikec6666

i'm over on the dingbat site picking fights

Which site is that?

516 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:03:03pm

re: #513 mikec6666

i'm over on the dingbat site picking fights

Sounds tedious.

517 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:03:27pm

Puerto Rico/ Dominican Republic after the hurricane

And one photo from space

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

518 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:03:51pm

re: #514 Varek Raith

Hmmm...

Nevermind, thought I felt a tremor.
Sheesh, I'm going to be doing this all night.
:/

519 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:04:41pm

re: #518 Varek Raith

Nevermind, thought I felt a tremor.
Sheesh, I'm going to be doing this all night.
:/

Enjoy large trucks passing by.

520 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:05:25pm

re: #519 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Enjoy large trucks passing by.

And the planes.
Stupid flight path is right over the house.

521 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:05:46pm

re: #513 mikec6666

i'm over on the dingbat site picking fights

sounds productive

522 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:07:12pm

re: #521 albusteve

sounds productive

Speaking of which

todolist

Grocery Store
Cook Dinner
Eat dinner
Nap
Shower
Drive to work

My night is all planned!!

yippeee!!

523 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:08:03pm

re: #520 Varek Raith

And the planes.
Stupid flight path is right over the house.

Can't ya just call the airport and tell them to shut down for awhile!?!?

524 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:08:19pm

re: #523 sattv4u2

Can't ya just call the airport and tell them to shut down for awhile!?!?

Dulles?
Lol.
:)

525 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:08:49pm

re: #524 Varek Raith

Dulles?
Lol.
:)

Okay ,, so call then TWICE!!!!

526 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:09:23pm

re: #525 sattv4u2

Okay ,, so call thenM TWICE!!!

527 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:10:35pm

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Right after the huge Earthquake in Russia in the 80's; A friend of mine was promoted and moved with his wife to a small town to head up his own office.

In their attempt to assimilate they had a card night with some of their new neighbors.

One of their new friends asked conversationally...

"That big Earthquake in Russia. Do you think the United States had anything to do with that?"

He rescinded his acceptance of the promotion and moved the fuck back home.

I am totally serious.

Superstitious nonsense rides even higher in Russia than in the United States.

528 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:12:40pm

Remember this?

"Well, what I want them to know is just like, John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa. That's the kind of spirit that I have, too."

Well, let's take a closer look at that spirit, shall we?

WATERLOO, Iowa — Police have confirmed the death of a 19-year-old college student who was brutally beaten in the early morning hours on Friday, and whose attackers shouted anti-gay slurs and kicked him in the face.
529 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:14:26pm

re: #528 darthstar

Remember this?

Well, let's take a closer look at that spirit, shall we?

wish I'd been there

530 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:15:21pm

100.8 °F

Blech.

531 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:17:01pm

re: #529 albusteve

wish I'd been there

If you were, then the bigots would have been killed. Albusteve don't play footsie with bigots, he rips 'em apart.

/partial hyperbole

532 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:17:24pm

I'm out.
Later gators.
Fun day.

533 wee fury  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:17:36pm

re: #528 darthstar

Remember this?

Well, let's take a closer look at that spirit, shall we?

I just posted this update on pages --

Witnesses had told The Courier that people involved in the fight had taunted Andrews with anti-gay slurs, but police said none of the witnesses mentioned the slurs in interviews with detectives.
Police also said that anti-gay sentiment wasn't behind the assault.


Read More: [Link: wcfcourier.com...]

534 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:19:02pm

re: #533 wee fury

I just posted this update on pages --


Read More: [Link: wcfcourier.com...]

He's still dead. The attackers should go to jail for murder, regardless of whether they get a hate crime attached.

535 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:19:47pm

This rightie sez...

Saw coverage of the President getting a phone call on the golf course. He didn't freak out. Didn't run around like his hair was on fire.

Did what a fuckin' President is supposed to do (IMO) ... talked calmly.

536 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:20:47pm

re: #527 lostlakehiker

I wasn't superstition. It was stupidity.

537 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:21:34pm

re: #535 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This rightie sez...

Saw coverage of the President getting a phone call on the golf course. He didn't freak out. Didn't run around like his hair was on fire.

Did what a fuckin' President is supposed to do (IMO) ... talked calmly.

Is there anything to freak out about?

538 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:22:14pm

re: #537 EmmmieG

Is there anything to freak out about?

The president is still black.

539 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:22:17pm

re: #537 EmmmieG

Is there anything to freak out about?

Only if you hate Obama to an extreme degree.

540 wee fury  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:22:22pm

re: #534 darthstar

re: #537 EmmmieG

Is there anything to freak out about?


No. Much ado about nothing. (Quake on East Coast)

541 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:23:11pm

re: #537 EmmmieG

Not at all. (wife excepted, of course) My son lives near the mass destruction.

542 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:23:17pm

re: #534 darthstar

He's still dead. The attackers should go to jail for murder, regardless of whether they get a hate crime attached.

what...three on one and they killed him...
black, gay and defenseless

543 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:23:26pm

re: #535 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This rightie sez...

Saw coverage of the President getting a phone call on the golf course. He didn't freak out. Didn't run around like his hair was on fire.

Did what a fuckin' President is supposed to do (IMO) ... talked calmly.

[Link: campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com...]

544 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:23:37pm

John McCain debunks RW claims of Sharia law taking over Libya

545 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:24:23pm

re: #541 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not at all. (wife excepted, of course) My son lives near the mass destruction.

Nobody'd been reported dead, not even from a heart attack.

546 mikec6666  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:25:18pm

re: #515 Dark_Falcon

dim hof

547 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:26:33pm

re: #544 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

John McCain debunks RW claims of Sharia law taking over Libya

[Video]

RINO!

548 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:27:39pm

True calamity averted.

It appears that Will Smith and Jada are not separating.

Thank God their publicist announced it.

549 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:28:13pm

re: #534 darthstar

He's still dead. The attackers should go to jail for murder, regardless of whether they get a hate crime attached.

Life. No parole. All of them.

550 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:28:17pm

re: #199 Atlas Fails

Could anyone be dumber than Dim? Yes! His commenters:

Missy8s commented:

Militant Conservative commented:

(?)

SnowSoul commented:


Ginger commented:

Taqiyyotomist commented:

Bunni commented:

Cutlers bad knee commented:

Patty commented:

...and so on. I'm actually pretty impressed these people managed to turn their computers on.

I'm surprised that they can tie their shoes or walk around all day without drooling all over themselves...

551 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:28:35pm

re: #548 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

True calamity averted.

It appears that Will Smith and Jada are not separating.

Thank God their publicist announced it.

552 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:29:44pm

re: #548 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

True calamity averted.

It appears that Will Smith and Jada are not separating.

Thank God their publicist announced it.

thank god...I was really stressed

553 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:30:40pm

re: #549 Gus 802

Life. No parole. All of them.

execute them

554 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:31:14pm

re: #553 albusteve

execute them

We did used to execute murderers.

555 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:31:42pm

re: #553 albusteve

execute them

Concur.

556 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:31:49pm

re: #548 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

True calamity averted.

It appears that Will Smith and Jada are not separating.

Thank God their publicist announced it.

Honestly? After he saved the Earth from those Aliens, I was disappointed that he proposed to a stripper. I thought he could do better. It would've been a shame if he'd separated from the "normal" woman.

557 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:33:29pm

re: #553 albusteve

execute them

I've got a lot of other ideas too but won't share. ;)

558 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:35:31pm

re: #556 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Honestly? After he saved the Earth from those Aliens, I was disappointed that he proposed to a stripper. I thought he could do better. It would've been a shame if he'd separated from the "normal" woman.

After we had brought the shields down, wouldn't using a nuke have been more practical?

559 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:38:25pm

Speaking of scum.

49ers discontinue games with Raiders after stadium violence

Team officials also announced Monday that the 49ers would tighten tailgating rules and crack down on season ticket holders who sell their seats to troublemakers in the wake of two shootings and a beating at the stadium.

A 24-year-old man who was shot multiple times in one of the parking lot incidents was reported to be in serious condition Monday. After being shot, he managed to drive to a security office for help, Andraychak said. Another man in his 20s who was shot numerous times remained hospitalized with less threatening injuries, according to police.

A 26-year-old man from San Rafael who was beaten unconscious in a stadium bathroom was hospitalized in serious condition, police said.

560 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:39:03pm

re: #558 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

After we had brought the shields down, wouldn't using a nuke have been more practical?

That's what we used. What are you, some kind of nuke-hatin' Liberal?

/

561 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:39:25pm

Okay, fess up, who dunnit?:

Foxnews.com headline:

Man without pants steals party bus.

562 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:40:23pm

re: #560 Dark_Falcon

That's what we used. What are you, some kind of nuke-hatin' Liberal?

/

Not on the ships that were down on Earth. They relied on conventional fighter planes instead of SAM and cruise missiles.

563 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:40:59pm

re: #342 SanFranciscoZionist

Earthquakes are no respecters of congressional districts.

We know, it's just extremely ironic given who's Congressional district it is.

564 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:41:40pm

re: #558 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

After we had brought the shields down, wouldn't using a nuke have been more practical?

What? Then there's no "Kingpin"!

565 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:41:44pm

re: #562 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Not on the ships that were down on Earth. They relied on conventional fighter planes instead of SAM and cruise missiles.

Because firing one nuke wouldn't provide the big action sequence needed for the movie's climax.

566 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:42:04pm

re: #563 talon_262

We know, it's just extremely ironic given who's Congressional district it is.

why?....you into some sort of voodoo?

567 SpaceJesus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:42:19pm

re: #561 EmmmieG

all part of gaddafi's intricate escape plan

568 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:42:24pm

re: #556 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was disappointed that he proposed to a stripper. I thought he could do better

BETTER!!!!?!?!?!

//

569 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:43:01pm

re: #568 sattv4u2

Motherhood, apple pie... no meth.

570 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:44:58pm

re: #565 Dark_Falcon

Because firing one nuke wouldn't provide the big action sequence needed for the movie's climax.

I was thinking about this last night watching episode of Star Trek: Voyager. The crewman had on an ankle bracelet so they could locate him, and told him not to tamper with it. When he tried to get it off, unsuccessfully, they transported a security team to get him and a chase ensued.

They knew where he was because of the ankle bracelet, why not transport him straight to the brig?

571 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:45:09pm

re: #569 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Motherhood, apple pie... no meth.

"Motherhood and Apple Pie" don't apply, 'cause they're black! They voted for Obama!1

/Fox Nation commentator (Not an exaggeration)

572 danhenry1  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:46:56pm

Was in the 11th floor of a building in Crystal City. You did feel some serious shaking, twice over a 20 second period... Booked out with everyone 'quickly' down the stairs. Told an hour later that we had done it all wrong.. 'should have stayed put under a desk or something', he had spent 20 years in Tokyo don' t you know.?
Fuck him I'm, an east coast guy and just wanted out... Didn't know if a plane had crashed at national or a bomb had gone off..
A bunch of guys from the la and sf area that were visiting knew it was a quake.. And that it was quite a good 'shake' at that.. Thank the good earth that nobody was hurt.
Now the interesting studies are commencing.
What are the plate impact and movements going to do; far, far to our east? That island in the Canaries or something like that, can't remember the name where if the eastern face falls... That could have an impact around heyer..

573 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:48:13pm

re: #570 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They knew where he was because of the ankle bracelet, why not transport him straight to the brig?

Because another feature of the ankle bracelet is that you can't be transported while wearing it? (If I were running a prison in a world of transporter tech, I'd certainly want that!)

574 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:48:16pm

re: #555 Dark_Falcon

Concur.

Won't bring him back; vindicates nothing but the emotions of people wanting a pretext for government-sponsored killings.

Instead, quit teaching kids social nonconformists are expendable.

575 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:48:51pm

Pedro Pizano
@pedropizano Pedro Pizano
#US: only developed nation not 2 have ratified #UN Conv. on Elimination of All Forms of #Discrimination against #Women: [Link: t.co...]

576 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:49:56pm

re: #573 C1nnabar

Because another feature of the ankle bracelet is that you can't be transported while wearing it? (If I were running a prison in a world of transporter tech, I'd certainly want that!)

Nope, he evaded the security team chasing him by transporting away.

Fuck you Star Trek, just fuck you.

577 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:51:21pm

Another plot hole/lazy writer gripe:

If God created the whole universe from nothing, why did he need Adam to give him a rib?

578 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:51:39pm

re: #574 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Won't bring him back; vindicates nothing but the emotions of people wanting a pretext for government-sponsored killings.

Instead, quit teaching kids social nonconformists are expendable.

nah...asking taxpayers to preserve the lives of these cretins is unfair

579 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:52:34pm

re: #575 Gus 802

Pedro Pizano
@pedropizano Pedro Pizano
#US: only developed nation not 2 have ratified #UN Conv. on Elimination of All Forms of #Discrimination against #Women: [Link: t.co...]

There are Constitutional questions that prevent us from doing so, as well as the general contempt for the UN felt in the US. We don't ratify quite a few such UN treaties.

580 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:52:41pm

Damn it's hot. Cool down tomorrow though. Blech. Feels like I'm at the dry cleaners.

581 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:53:39pm

re: #572 danhenry1
Dan? I'm sorry. But that read like a text message. What?

582 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:54:06pm

re: #579 Dark_Falcon

That general contempt should be more termed 'ignorance', I think.

583 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:54:16pm

re: #574 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Won't bring him back; vindicates nothing but the emotions of people wanting a pretext for government-sponsored killings.

Instead, quit teaching kids social nonconformists are expendable.

The assholes will still hurt and kill people. Better to execute them when they do something this nasty.

But you and I aren't going to agree on this. We come at the issue from different places and with different goals.

584 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:54:42pm

re: #580 Gus 802

Damn it's hot. Cool down tomorrow though. Blech. Feels like I'm at the dry cleaners.


101 here in ABQ again
sizzling when the sun hits you

585 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:55:05pm

re: #576 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Nope, he evaded the security team chasing him by transporting away.

Fuck you Star Trek, just fuck you.

Rats. Another good theory bites the dust. (Which episode was this, by the way?)

586 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:55:36pm

re: #579 Dark_Falcon

There are Constitutional questions that prevent us from doing so, as well as the general contempt for the UN felt in the US. We don't ratify quite a few such UN treaties.

What contempt? You mean going to the UN for pleading our case before going to war in Afghanistan and Iraq? Or the part where we went to the UN for this recent action against Gaddafi? And Bosnia. And Iran. Seriously, I don't know the specific here but there's hardly a real contempt that I see. Only the ones promoted by the right wing media.

587 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:56:19pm

re: #578 albusteve

nah...asking taxpayers to preserve the lives of these cretins is unfair

Costs way more to get an execution done. Appeals, etc.

588 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:56:46pm

re: #585 C1nnabar

Rats. Another good theory bites the dust. (Which episode was this, by the way?)

Non Sequitur (Star Trek: Voyager)

589 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:58:12pm

re: #586 Gus 802

What contempt? You mean going to the UN for pleading our case before going to war in Afghanistan and Iraq? Or the part where we went to the UN for this recent action against Gaddafi? And Bosnia. And Iran. Seriously, I don't know the specific here but there's hardly a real contempt that I see. Only the ones promoted by the right wing media.

of course you don't...the examples you give are formal diplomacy which has nothing to do with public opinion...the UN is an addiction we need to break...fuck them...they are thieves and promote death

590 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:58:47pm

re: #588 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Non Sequitur (Star Trek: Voyager)

If you're looking for logic in Voyager plots, just don't. Seriously, they only make your head hurt. Trust me, I'm a professional Trek nitpicker.

591 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:59:05pm

re: #587 wrenchwench

Costs way more to get an execution done. Appeals, etc.

fancy that...the lawyers rule the judiciary in this country...thanks for pointing that out

592 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 3:59:24pm

Conservative elites pine for 2012 hero


The problem, in shorthand: To many conservative elites, Rick Perry is a dope, Michele Bachmann is a joke and Mitt Romney is a fraud.

They don’t publicly express their judgments in such harsh terms, but the low regard is obvious: The Journal’s editorial board, the bible of conservative intellectual orthodoxy, pretty much excommunicated Romney from the movement in May for his health care sins. Then, last week, the editorial board suggested that Bachmann and Perry couldn’t be elected, and that “now would be the time” for “someone still off the field to step up.”

The editorial spoke, as it said, for “desperate” voters — but the board could have been talking about itself.

593 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:00:14pm

re: #590 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

If you're looking for logic in Voyager plots, just don't. Seriously, they only make your head hurt. Trust me, I'm a professional Trek nitpicker.

I've also learn that every 3rd episode involves someone being stuck in a holodeck.

594 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:00:42pm

re: #589 albusteve

of course you don't...the examples you give are formal diplomacy which has nothing to do with public opinion...the UN is an addiction we need to break...fuck them...they are thieves and promote death

LOL OK, whatever.

I suddenly feel like I'm at Hot Air or Red State.

595 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:01:13pm

re: #593 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I've also learn that every 3rd episode involves someone being stuck in a holodeck.

Holodecks, transporters, and warp drive. Star Trek writers are contractually obligated to work each into one episode per season. Bonus points if you can work two or even all three in together.

596 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:01:40pm

re: #594 Gus 802

LOL OK, whatever.

I suddenly feel like I'm at Hot Air or Red State.

nice try, but I'm insult proof, you know that
LOL!...I still love you

597 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:01:54pm

re: #592 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Conservative elites pine for 2012 hero

A glut of candidates, but not a nominee amongst them. Ouch.

598 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:02:54pm

re: #594 Gus 802

LOL OK, whatever.

I suddenly feel like I'm at Hot Air or Red State.


Another criticism was that the Commission did not engage in constructive discussion of human rights issues, but was a forum for politically selective finger-pointing and criticism. The desire of states with problematic human rights records to be elected to the Commission was viewed largely as a way to defend themselves from such attacks.

Activist groups had long expressed concern over the memberships of the People's Republic of China, Zimbabwe, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, and the past memberships of Algeria, Syria, Libya, Uganda and Vietnam on the Commission. These countries had extensive records of human rights violations, and one concern was that by working against resolutions on the commission condemning human rights violations, they indirectly promoted despotism and domestic repression.[6]

On May 4, 2004, United States ambassador Sichan Siv walked out of the Commission following the uncontested election of Sudan to the commission, calling it an "absurdity" in light of Sudan's ethnic cleansing in the Darfur region.[7] One major consequence of the election of Sudan to the Commission was the lack of willingness for some countries to work through the commission. Indeed, on July 30, 2004, it was the United Nations Security Council, not the Commission, that passed a resolution– by 13–0, with China and Pakistan abstaining– threatening Sudan with unspecified sanctions if the situation in the Darfur region did not improve within the following 30 days. The reasons given for the action were the attacks by the Janjaweed Arab militias of Sudan on the non-Arab African Muslim population of Darfur, a region in western Sudan.

The commission had also come under repeated criticism from the United States for its unwillingness to address real human rights concerns. In 2002, the United States was kicked off the commission by the other member states, many of whom have been criticized for their human rights violations, and in 2003 Syria put forwrd a proposal to discuss US "war crimes in Iraq.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

599 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:03:09pm

Off to dinner. BBL

600 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:03:26pm

re: #595 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Holodecks, transporters, and warp drive. Star Trek writers are contractually obligated to work each into one episode per season. Bonus points if you can work two or even all three in together.

Maybe they can boost the power of the holodeck using the warp drive, channel it thru the deflector array and create their own planet then can transport down to?

601 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:03:41pm

Hilarious in light of the recent orgasms about NATO.

602 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:04:58pm

re: #598 rwdflynavy

There's a lot of valid criticisms of the UN.

But most people in the US have no fucking clue what it does, really. And a lot believe in absolutely moronic things about it.

And even more are offended by the fact that we let the bad countries into the UN. Rather missing the point.

603 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:05:11pm

re: #590 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

If you're looking for logic in Voyager plots, just don't. Seriously, they only make your head hurt. Trust me, I'm a professional Trek nitpicker.

TrekNits?

604 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:05:32pm

re: #600 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Maybe they can boost the power of the holodeck using the warp drive, channel it thru the deflector array and create their own planet then can transport down to?

Great, but use more technobabble and you're set./

I have to admit, however, that Voyager is at least bearable to watch compared to its successor, Enterprise.

605 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:05:34pm

re: #596 albusteve

nice try, but I'm insult proof, you know that
LOL!...I still love you

I think it's funny though. A lot of people here still think eye to eye with Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann on many issues.

606 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:06:38pm

re: #604 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Great, but use more technobabble and you're set./

I have to admit, however, that Voyager is at least bearable to watch compared to its successor, Enterprise.

Meanwhile, shows like Farscape and Firefly get no love

607 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:06:44pm

re: #602 Obdicut

There's a lot of valid criticisms of the UN.

But most people in the US have no fucking clue what it does, really. And a lot believe in absolutely moronic things about it.

And even more are offended by the fact that we let the bad countries into the UN. Rather missing the point.

I get letting bad countries into the UN. Giving them positions of influence and power on committees they should be investigated by is a different issue. Also, their treatment of Israel is awful. UN Rocks.!!!!

608 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:06:57pm

re: #602 Obdicut

There's a lot of valid criticisms of the UN.

But most people in the US have no fucking clue what it does, really. And a lot believe in absolutely moronic things about it.

And even more are offended by the fact that we let the bad countries into the UN. Rather missing the point.

609 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:07:47pm

re: #607 rwdflynavy

I get letting bad countries into the UN. Giving them positions of influence and power on committees they should be investigated by is a different issue. Also, their treatment of Israel is awful. UN Rocks.!!!

vacation in Lebanon!

610 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:08:20pm

re: #607 rwdflynavy

I get letting bad countries into the UN. Giving them positions of influence and power on committees they should be investigated by is a different issue. Also, their treatment of Israel is awful. UN Rocks.!!!

So if the UN is so bad then why is Israel still a member of the UN? Given that you say their treatment at the UN is so awful.

611 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:08:31pm

re: #606 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Meanwhile, shows like Farscape and Firefly get no love

Farscape actually did pretty well for itself, considering it was on Scifi all its life. But Firefly got totally fraked by Fox from day one. Shown out of order, slapped in the Friday Night Death Slot, and virtually ignored by the brass. That it got a film in the end is proof that it had the potential to go far, given a serious chance.

612 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:08:53pm

re: #607 rwdflynavy

I get letting bad countries into the UN. Giving them positions of influence and power on committees they should be investigated by is a different issue.

You can't just let them in and then beat them up. It can't work that way. I completely agree that some countries have no place on the human rights organizations, but what would you say to those who say that the US imprisons a higher percentage of its citizens than anyone else and still doesn't have gay rights, so we don't belong on it, either?

I have no more respect for knee-jerk anti-UN bullshit than I do knee-jerk anti-US bullshit.

613 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:08:55pm

re: #610 Gus 802

So if the UN is so bad then why is Israel still a member of the UN? Given that you say their treatment at the UN is so awful.

Is there another international body they can join instead?

614 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:09:19pm

So let's see. The UN is a part of this recent action in Libya but we also hate the UN at the same time.

Interesting this cognitive dissonance.

615 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:09:33pm

re: #610 Gus 802

So if the UN is so bad then why is Israel still a member of the UN? Given that you say their treatment at the UN is so awful.

politics...you don't really expect Israel to leave the UN do you, when they have nothing to gain?

616 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:10:11pm

re: #613 rwdflynavy

Is there another international body they can join instead?

I don't know. Not really. But all I read is people saying, more or less, "the UN sucks and we should leave!!" Yet no one ever does.

617 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:10:15pm

re: #611 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Farscape actually did pretty well for itself, considering it was on Scifi all its life. But Firefly got totally fraked by Fox from day one. Shown out of order, slapped in the Friday Night Death Slot, and virtually ignored by the brass. That it got a film in the end is proof that it had the potential to go far, given a serious chance.

I'm still pissed Farscape got the axe while Stargate got a spinoff series.

618 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:10:59pm

re: #617 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm still pissed Farscape got the axe while Stargate got a spinoff series.

The Farscape torture episode was pretty brutal. I liked it.

Have you seen Lexx?

619 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:11:06pm

re: #616 Gus 802

I don't know. Not really. But all I read is people saying, more or less, "the UN sucks and we should leave!!" Yet no one ever does.

The UN sucks. We should improve it.

620 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:11:20pm

re: #615 albusteve

politics...you don't really expect Israel to leave the UN do you, when they have nothing to gain?

But you just said "the UN is an addiction we need to break...fuck them...they are thieves and promote death." Surely if we need to break from the UN, Israel most certainly should break with the UN given the "evidence" presented here.

621 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:11:39pm

re: #619 rwdflynavy

The UN sucks. We should improve it.

That sounds better.

622 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:12:00pm

re: #618 Obdicut

The Farscape torture episode was pretty brutal. I liked it.

Have you seen Lexx?

First 2 seasons were OK, didn't like the 3rd and 4th.

623 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:12:05pm

re: #616 Gus 802

I don't know. Not really. But all I read is people saying, more or less, "the UN sucks and we should leave!!" Yet no one ever does.

What if there were an alternative? The UNONWALHB.
United Nations of Nations Which Actually Like Human Beings

624 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:12:33pm

re: #616 Gus 802

I don't know. Not really. But all I read is people saying, more or less, "the UN sucks and we should leave!!" Yet no one ever does.

right, just like nobody stood up for Rwanda or the Sudan...it's an organization of opportunity....$$$....once in, you can't leave

625 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:12:36pm

re: #617 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm still pissed Farscape got the axe while Stargate got a spinoff series.

On the plus side, it got a TV movie to wrap it all up, which is a far sight better than a lot of scifi series have received in recent years.

626 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:12:43pm

re: #577 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Another plot hole/lazy writer gripe:

If God created the whole universe from nothing, why did he need Adam to give him a rib?

It was a metaphorical rib in the form of a Rabbi, Priest and atheist joke.

627 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:12:50pm

re: #612 Obdicut

You can't just let them in and then beat them up. It can't work that way. I completely agree that some countries have no place on the human rights organizations, but what would you say to those who say that the US imprisons a higher percentage of its citizens than anyone else and still doesn't have gay rights, so we don't belong on it, either?

I have no more respect for knee-jerk anti-UN bullshit than I do knee-jerk anti-US bullshit.

I would agree with the knee-jerk anti-US bullshit.

628 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:13:34pm

re: #622 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

First 2 seasons were OK, didn't like the 3rd and 4th.

I still liked them, but I'd agree.

629 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:14:47pm

re: #620 Gus 802

But you just said "the UN is an addiction we need to break...fuck them...they are thieves and promote death." Surely if we need to break from the UN, Israel most certainly should break with the UN given the "evidence" presented here.

correct....this next dust up with Hez should ice the deal for Israel, but still they won't leave....like I said, it's an addiction....you do it even tho you know it's harmful

630 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:15:41pm

re: #627 rwdflynavy

Do you get my point about castigating other countries for being bad on human rights when we still don't have equal rights for gays, we imprison an immense number of our own citizens, and we have the death penalty?

Improving the UN is a great goal. I think we should also improve the hell out of the US, and I feel way too many of the same people who think the UN is crap ignore the problems we have here, and think the US is #1 in everything.

631 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:16:09pm

re: #594 Gus 802

LOL OK, whatever.

I suddenly feel like I'm at Hot Air or Red State.

I don't think that's an accurate feeling. Many of us are as far left as you are when it comes to the UN and global conflict.

632 makeitstopghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:16:13pm

re: #623 EmmmieG

The UNONWALHB.

That would never fit on the blue helmets.
/

633 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:16:24pm

re: #583 Dark_Falcon

Agreement isn't the goal at all. I just don't buy the call for state-murder his out of any concern for guys like the one who was murdered, or has anything to do with deterring others from similar crimes, protecting innocents, saving taxes, justice, or any such lofty goals. Buncha bullshyt.

634 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:16:49pm

re: #629 albusteve

Holy crap, I didn't realize you were not only smarter than everyone else at LGF, but also smarter than Israel.

That's pretty smart. Poor dumb Israel can't even quit the UN.

Seriously, Steve, do you listen to yourself?

635 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:17:07pm

re: #630 Obdicut

Do you get my point about castigating other countries for being bad on human rights when we still don't have equal rights for gays, we imprison an immense number of our own citizens, and we have the death penalty?

Improving the UN is a great goal. I think we should also improve the hell out of the US, and I feel way too many of the same people who think the UN is crap ignore the problems we have here, and think the US is #1 in everything.

all the more reason to get out...we are not worthy of such high ideals....
hahaha!

636 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:17:31pm

re: #630 Obdicut

Do you get my point about castigating other countries for being bad on human rights when we still don't have equal rights for gays, we imprison an immense number of our own citizens, and we have the death penalty?

Improving the UN is a great goal. I think we should also improve the hell out of the US, and I feel way too many of the same people who think the UN is crap ignore the problems we have here, and think the US is #1 in everything.

You're right, we are just like Syria and Libya. Thanks for opening my eyes.
//

637 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:18:32pm

re: #634 Obdicut

Holy crap, I didn't realize you were not only smarter than everyone else at LGF, but also smarter than Israel.

That's pretty smart. Poor dumb Israel can't even quit the UN.

Seriously, Steve, do you listen to yourself?

undies in a bunch?...what's your argument to support the UN role in Lebanon?....take a deep breath and realize not everyone agrees with you

638 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:18:58pm

re: #632 makeitstop

That would never fit on the blue helmets.
/

That's a stupid color. It's weak looking.
Forest green.

639 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:20:24pm

re: #636 rwdflynavy

You're right, we are just like Syria and Libya. Thanks for opening my eyes.
//

Dude, what the fuck? Did I say anything close to that? Read what I actually wrote.

640 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:20:27pm

re: #638 EmmmieG

That's a stupid color. It's weak looking.
Forest green.

On a Subaru Forester with a Coexist bumper sticker for FBV.
//

641 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:22:33pm

re: #631 b_sharp

I don't think that's an accurate feeling. Many of us are as far left as you are when it comes to the UN and global conflict.

Yeah, well, WTF. I didn't mean everybody. Just the UN/Freedom Fries bunch. All I did was post this fucking linke [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...] and off they went half cocked with the usual wingnut talking points about the UN.

642 Renaissance_Man  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:22:44pm

re: #631 b_sharp

I don't think that's an accurate feeling. Many of us are as far left as you are when it comes to the UN and global conflict.

Thinking that the UN has a role in global conflict is far left here in the US?

I'm constantly amazed by what counts as 'far left' here.

643 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:23:36pm

re: #639 Obdicut

Dude, what the fuck? Did I say anything close to that? Read what I actually wrote.

it appears to upset you when others, besides yourself, infer

644 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:25:45pm

re: #630 Obdicut

The problem is not that the "UN is crap", but that in too many respsects it fails to accomplish the lofty ideals for which it was founded. To a large extent, that is a function of the organization's structural defect, in that control of many of its organs is in the hands of countries that have no respect for democracy, freedom or human rights, and that use the institutions of the UN to pervert those values and to protect themselves and their allies. The UN's treatment of Israel is merely a symptom of this deeper structural problem.

Which is not to say that the UN doesn't do some good things, or that there is no beneficial purpose to having an organization which brings the world's leaders together for dialogue. But one need only look at the farce that is Durban III, which, under the UN's rubric is about to despoil New York City only days after we mark the somber 10th anniversary of 9/11, to recognize that the UN is an organization in serious need of a major overhaul, but that might not be capable of being fixed. Sometimes a structure cannot be renovated. It has to be torn down and a new edifice built in its place.

645 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:26:14pm

re: #642 Renaissance_Man

Thinking that the UN has a role in global conflict is far left here in the US?

I'm constantly amazed by what counts as 'far left' here.

the UN has a role in global conflict...they take their cut off the top to finance their official reports condemning the Jews...I hate the UN

646 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:26:17pm

re: #638 EmmmieG

That's a stupid color. It's weak looking.
Forest green.

How about blood red?

647 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:26:21pm

re: #644 sliv_the_eli

The problem is not that the "UN is crap", but that in too many respsects it fails to accomplish the lofty ideals for which it was founded. To a large extent, that is a function of the organization's structural defect, in that control of many of its organs is in the hands of countries that have no respect for democracy, freedom or human rights, and that use the institutions of the UN to pervert those values and to protect themselves and their allies. The UN's treatment of Israel is merely a symptom of this deeper structural problem.

Which is not to say that the UN doesn't do some good things, or that there is no beneficial purpose to having an organization which brings the world's leaders together for dialogue. But one need only look at the farce that is Durban III, which, under the UN's rubric is about to despoil New York City only days after we mark the somber 10th anniversary of 9/11, to recognize that the UN is an organization in serious need of a major overhaul, but that might not be capable of being fixed. Sometimes a structure cannot be renovated. It has to be torn down and a new edifice built in its place.

QFT

648 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:27:33pm

re: #645 albusteve

the UN has a role in global conflict...they take their cut off the top to finance their official reports condemning the Jews...I hate the UN

Don't you get it? The US isn't perfect dude!!!!

649 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:28:04pm

re: #644 sliv_the_eli

I was just going to say that!...really tho, well stated

650 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:28:17pm

re: #641 Gus 802

Yeah, well, WTF. I didn't mean everybody. Just the UN/Freedom Fries bunch. All I did was post this fucking linke [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...] and off they went half cocked with the usual wingnut talking points about the UN.

Then they should wear looser underwear, because what they're wearing is obviously restricting blood flow to important parts of their bodies.

651 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:29:01pm

re: #648 rwdflynavy

Don't you get it? The US isn't perfect dude!!!

I blame Bush

652 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:29:09pm

re: #642 Renaissance_Man

Thinking that the UN has a role in global conflict is far left here in the US?

I'm constantly amazed by what counts as 'far left' here.

Where did I say it was an example of the far left? Reread what I said.

653 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:29:34pm

re: #644 sliv_the_eli

The problem is not that the "UN is crap", but that in too many respsects it fails to accomplish the lofty ideals for which it was founded. To a large extent, that is a function of the organization's structural defect, in that control of many of its organs is in the hands of countries that have no respect for democracy, freedom or human rights, and that use the institutions of the UN to pervert those values and to protect themselves and their allies. The UN's treatment of Israel is merely a symptom of this deeper structural problem.

Which is not to say that the UN doesn't do some good things, or that there is no beneficial purpose to having an organization which brings the world's leaders together for dialogue. But one need only look at the farce that is Durban III, which, under the UN's rubric is about to despoil New York City only days after we mark the somber 10th anniversary of 9/11, to recognize that the UN is an organization in serious need of a major overhaul, but that might not be capable of being fixed. Sometimes a structure cannot be renovated. It has to be torn down and a new edifice built in its place.


Do you have any suggestions about how the "NUN" (New version of the UN) should be structured to avoid creating the problems you see in the last one?

Before an old structure is torn down it is incumbent upon the people demolishing it to have a clear idea for how to build something better in its place.

654 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:29:47pm

re: #652 b_sharp

Where did I say it was an example of the far left? Reread what I said.

You didn't have to, you damn wingnut!!!
//

655 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:29:53pm

Still reading Robert Spencer here in between the lines. Odd.

656 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:31:14pm

re: #645 albusteve

the UN has a role in global conflict...they take their cut off the top to finance their official reports condemning the Jews...I hate the UN

Dont' forget furnishing the peacekeepers to run the local child prostitution ring.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

657 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:31:22pm

re: #655 Gus 802

Still reading Robert Spencer here in between the lines. Odd.

On a related note, Gates of Vienna loves Daisies!!!!
//

658 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:31:23pm

re: #590 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

If you're looking for logic in Voyager plots, just don't. Seriously, they only make your head hurt. Trust me, I'm a professional Trek nitpicker.

Kate Mulgrew was about the only saving grace (so to speak) of ST:VOY; I thought she was definitely a good ST captain.

659 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:31:29pm

re: #644 sliv_the_eli

Sometimes a structure cannot be renovated. It has to be torn down and a new edifice built in its place.

And how exactly would you go about doing that, so that democracy was upheld as the highest value at this new organization, and get China to join it? And remember, it was created back when the USSR was around, as well-- and it's not like the current Russia is actually a paragon of democracy.

Criticize the UN all you like. But the moronic original comment about it here was, indeed, moronic.

660 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:32:28pm

re: #653 jamesfirecat

sure, start with admission to those countries that promote personal freedom and have free, open, democratic elections

661 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:33:04pm

re: #660 albusteve

sure, start with admission to those countries that promote personal freedom and have free, open, democratic elections

The problem Steve is that countries like that don't need the UN to get them to play nice.

662 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:33:29pm

Okay, off topic here.

We took the compound. Rixos though is still in his control.

So now what? Somebody is going to have to go in there and rescue the journalists.

Special Forces of a NATO state?

663 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:34:28pm

re: #659 Obdicut

And how exactly would you go about doing that, so that democracy was upheld as the highest value at this new organization, and get China to join it? And remember, it was created back when the USSR was around, as well-- and it's not like the current Russia is actually a paragon of democracy.

Criticize the UN all you like. But the moronic original comment about it here was, indeed, moronic.

Americans that support the UN are moronic

664 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:34:59pm

re: #662 ProLifeLiberal

Okay, off topic here.

We took the compound. Rixos though is still in his control.

So now what? Somebody is going to have to go in there and rescue the journalists.

Special Forces of a NATO state?

The US doesn't have any troops on the ground. Certainly not any SF troops. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...

665 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:35:23pm

re: #648 rwdflynavy

Don't you get it? The US isn't perfect dude!!!

Is it?

Being better than the worst, being better than the average, even being better than the majority does not equate to being perfect.

666 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:35:39pm

re: #661 jamesfirecat

The problem Steve is that countries like that don't need the UN to get them to play nice.

so what's the point in hanging out with people that hate you and have no regard for our ideals?

667 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:36:05pm

re: #659 Obdicut

And how exactly would you go about doing that, so that democracy was upheld as the highest value at this new organization, and get China to join it? And remember, it was created back when the USSR was around, as well-- and it's not like the current Russia is actually a paragon of democracy.

Criticize the UN all you like. But the moronic original comment about it here was, indeed, moronic.

I think we already have what's being advocated - it's called NATO....... :p


/

668 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:36:31pm

re: #665 b_sharp

Is it?

Being better than the worst, being better than the average, even being better than the majority does not equate to being perfect.

No, the US is far from perfect. That being said, we are pretty damn good compared to most of the offenders.

669 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:36:31pm

re: #666 albusteve

so what's the point in hanging out with people that hate you and have no regard for our ideals?

Because it's better to have them inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in.

670 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:36:36pm

re: #654 rwdflynavy

You didn't have to, you damn wingnut!!!
//

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

671 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:37:45pm

re: #669 jamesfirecat

Because it's better to have them inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in.

why?...we don't need the UN to keep tabs on our enemies

672 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:37:52pm
673 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:38:04pm

re: #664 rwdflynavy

Certainly we can find a way to sneak them in there.

Somebodies Special Forces are gonna have to do it. THe Rebels, as good as they are, I don't think they have the ability to pull off of an operation meant to

a)Capture and/or kill Qaddafi and his family while:

b)Protecting the Journalists.

674 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:38:12pm

re: #465 Dark_Falcon

"Choice Fox News page comment about the earthquake. The bolded portion actually shows up there as 18 point font. The rest is in /wingnut:

thomas cook.cook 1 minute ago

Obama = 666 = Mabus

It's basically calling Obama the Anti-Christ.

I can make so much more sense of these things since I started reading Slacktivist. One of the things I find most interesting is that apparently no prophecy in the Bible is ever considered to have come to pass by the Rapture folks. It's all--all of it--about RIGHT NOW.

675 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:38:39pm

re: #604 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Great, but use more technobabble and you're set./

I have to admit, however, that Voyager is at least bearable to watch compared to its successor, Enterprise.

I liked the ST:ENT cast (especially Bakula) much better than the bulk of the ST:VOY cast (Mulgrew excepted); the problem with Enterprise is it took so long for them to get the plots interesting, UPN canceled them by the time they started getting it right. That's not to say I didn't enjoy some episodes from the first couple of seasons, because there were some good ones.

Berman and Braga suck...because of them (in part), the cancellation of ST:ENT marked the first time in 18 years that there wasn't a first-run ST series on TV.

676 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:38:54pm

re: #656 sliv_the_eli

Dont' forget furnishing the peacekeepers to run the local child prostitution ring.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Damn, all those evil peacekeepers. Do the peacekeepers from Canada and northern Europe know they're evil?

677 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:39:50pm

re: #671 albusteve

why?...we don't need the UN to keep tabs on our enemies

By having the UN that is open even to people who don't agree with us 100% we can make it easier to be "frenemies" with China given that we have massive amounts of trade with them combined with massive problems with their government styles.

Also it makes it possible for us to work alongside nations like China and Russia to take on the not just authoritative but out and out crazy nations like North Korea since it would be impossible for us to make truly effective economic sanctions against them without the support of more than just the democratic nations in the world.

678 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:40:14pm

Rolls eyes.

679 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:40:15pm

re: #511 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Perry a fan of Glenn Beck's favorite book:

SHould I read this thing? Or will it just depress the heck out of me further?

680 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:40:30pm

re: #672 Gus 802

UN - Security Council imposes sanctions on Libyan authorities in bid to stem violent repression

UN - Security Council Approves ‘No-Fly Zone’ over Libya, Authorizing ‘All Necessary: Measures’ to Protect Civilians, by Vote of 10 in Favour with 5 Abstentions

UN - Security Council authorizes ‘all necessary measures’ to protect civilians in Libya

Remind yourself of the above the next time your cheering on the downfall of Gaddafi, NATO, the US military, and Obama. The UN took part in recent events leading to the capitulation of Gaddafi's regime.

very colorful...
reminds me of the squirrel and the nut....what are they gonna do?...promote Mo in the face of world opposition?....they can go with the flow, those genius brokers

681 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:40:36pm

re: #663 albusteve

Americans that support the UN are moronic

Sorry Steve, but I can't take your logic at face value.

682 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:41:10pm

re: #675 talon_262

I liked the ST:ENT cast (especially Bakula) much better than the bulk of the ST:VOY cast (Mulgrew excepted); the problem with Enterprise is it took so long for them to get the plots interesting, UPN canceled them by the time they started getting it right. That's not to say I didn't enjoy some episodes from the first couple of seasons, because there were some good ones.

Berman and Braga suck...because of them (in part), the cancellation of ST:ENT marked the first time in 18 years that there wasn't a first-run ST series on TV.

To get it right, they had to take the reins away from Berman & Braga and give them to Manny Coto, which was probably the only good decision made in the series' history. The fourth season was how the series should have been from the start, paying homage to what had come before while filling in the blanks, rather than being a Voyager clone.

683 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:41:32pm

re: #680 albusteve

very colorful...
reminds me of the squirrel and the nut...what are they gonna do?...promote Mo in the face of world opposition?...they can go with the flow, those genius brokers

Cripes Steve. You can be such a dummy sometimes.

684 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:41:58pm

re: #653 jamesfirecat

My recommendations will be available in a 3-volume series soon to be avaialble at amazon and on your Kindle.

Seriously, no, I do not have a comprehensive blueprint for a NUN. Which is why I view replacement of the UN as merely aspiratinal. As a practical matter, I believ the U.S. should use its considerable standing, as well as its very large share of the operating budgets for the UN and its various organs, to push for real change, and not merely, as was the case with the UNHRC, for changes in nomenclature.

685 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:42:00pm

re: #668 rwdflynavy

No, the US is far from perfect. That being said, we are pretty damn good compared to most of the offenders.

Yes, you are. As with every other country there is still lots of room for improvement.

686 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:42:08pm

re: #538 darthstar

The president is still black.

He's fifty years old. I bet he's used to it by now.

687 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:43:17pm

The United Nations and Barack HUSSEIN Obama had nothing to do with the downfall of Gaddafi!!11ty

688 Alouenghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:43:24pm

re: #634 Obdicut

Holy crap, I didn't realize you were not only smarter than everyone else at LGF, but also smarter than Israel.

That's pretty smart. Poor dumb Israel can't even quit the UN.

Seriously, Steve, do you listen to yourself?

Has any nation ever quit the UN?

689 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:43:34pm

re: #677 jamesfirecat

By having the UN that is open even to people who don't agree with us 100% we can make it easier to be "frenemies" with China given that we have massive amounts of trade with them combined with massive problems with their government styles.

Also it makes it possible for us to work alongside nations like China and Russia to take on the not just authoritative but out and out crazy nations like North Korea since it would be impossible for us to make truly effective economic sanctions against them without the support of more than just the democratic nations in the world.

wrong...it's possible for the US to inspire any diplomatic endeavor we want, regardless of the UN....the UN is about worthless consensus...like lipstick on a pig

690 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:43:42pm

re: #684 sliv_the_eli

My recommendations will be available in a 3-volume series soon to be avaialble at amazon and on your Kindle.

Seriously, no, I do not have a comprehensive blueprint for a NUN. Which is why I view replacement of the UN as merely aspiratinal. As a practical matter, I believ the U.S. should use its considerable standing, as well as its very large share of the operating budgets for the UN and its various organs, to push for real change, and not merely, as was the case with the UNHRC, for changes in nomenclature.

I can doubtlessly support the principle of operating within the UN to make changes since it would probably be easier to change the existing version than re-create something new and stir up a fresh round of "one world order" crazies

So what sort of changes do you think are necessary within the UN?

691 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:44:24pm

Whatever one may think of the UN, they aren't the place I would turn for help with domestic violence, which is what Gus's link was about. There's a problem, yes, but not an international-level problem.

692 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:44:51pm

re: #673 ProLifeLiberal

Certainly we can find a way to sneak them in there.

Somebodies Special Forces are gonna have to do it. THe Rebels, as good as they are, I don't think they have the ability to pull off of an operation meant to

a)Capture and/or kill Qaddafi and his family while:

b)Protecting the Journalists.

Mo's down in the tunnels....he's a tunnel rat now...
it's only a matter of time now

693 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:44:58pm

So the UN had nothing to do with Libya. And Bosnia. And South Korea. And Iraq. And Afghanistan. And on and on and on. It was all just a propaganda campaign created by the evil people that run the United Nations.

694 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:45:33pm

re: #691 wrenchwench

Whatever one may think of the UN, they aren't the place I would turn for help with domestic violence, which is what Gus's link was about. There's a problem, yes, but not an international-level problem.

Whatever. It was just a link.

Really fascinating though. I'm learning how little some things have changed around here.

695 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:45:51pm

re: #689 albusteve

wrong...it's possible for the US to inspire any diplomatic endeavor we want, regardless of the UN...the UN is about worthless consensus...like lipstick on a pig

Yeah I'm sure that North Korea/Iran would be real scared that we'd threaten to cut them off as trading partners if Russia and China were willing to supply them instead.

Steve sanctions only really work if they're universal and they'll never be anything close to universal without Russia and China agreeing to be a part of them.

696 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:45:51pm

re: #692 albusteve

True, but Journalists shouldn't have to suffer. He's using those in the hotel as human shields.

697 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:46:21pm

re: #693 Gus 802

So the UN had nothing to do with Libya. And Bosnia. And South Korea. And Iraq. And Afghanistan. And on and on and on. It was all just a propaganda campaign created by the evil people that run the United Nations.

something like that, without all the drama you admire

698 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:46:33pm

re: #671 albusteve

why?...we don't need the UN to keep tabs on our enemies

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. Allowing them to talk the talk forewarns against them walking the walk.

Freedom of expression works outside of countries as well as within countries.

Is that enough truisms and platitudes to make my point?

699 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:47:00pm

re: #697 albusteve

something like that, without all the drama you admire

Pot meet kettle.

700 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:47:30pm
701 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:48:18pm

re: #688 Alouette

Has any nation ever quit the UN?

I don't think so, other than countries that no longer exist.

702 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:49:10pm

re: #700 goddamnedfrank

Suquamish Indian Tribe Adopts Same Sex Marriage.

Squeamish Indian Tribe Does Too, But Calls It Civil Partnership.

703 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:49:25pm

re: #592 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Conservative elites pine for 2012 hero

/haha

Dorks.

704 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:49:34pm

I got a very nice courtesy call from Charles Schwab. I guess my trade yesterday must have triggered on of their brokers to check in and make sure I'm happy with their service. Great people, friendly, informative, customer service picks up the phone after a few rings and they've always been native English speakers here in the States. They just called to tell me of all the free services they offer that I'm not using. They're giving me a free hour long portfolio consultation with a non commissioned broker. Very nice.

705 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:49:58pm

re: #695 jamesfirecat

Yeah I'm sure that North Korea/Iran would be real scared that we'd threaten to cut them off as trading partners if Russia and China were willing to supply them instead.

Steve sanctions only really work if they're universal and they'll never be anything close to universal without Russia and China agreeing to be a part of them.

I don't play pretend and make stuff up here...if this, if that is non productive...when the UNHRC slams the Palis once and for all, I might reconsider....but the level of corruption slanted against Israel trumps any bullshit make believe scenario you can dream up...I don't give a shit about Russia or the Chinese...they do not dictate American principle, only hinder it

706 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:51:03pm

re: #677 jamesfirecat

By having the UN that is open even to people who don't agree with us 100% we can make it easier to be "frenemies" with China given that we have massive amounts of trade with them combined with massive problems with their government styles.

Also it makes it possible for us to work alongside nations like China and Russia to take on the not just authoritative but out and out crazy nations like North Korea since it would be impossible for us to make truly effective economic sanctions against them without the support of more than just the democratic nations in the world.

Part of the justification for Nixon and subsequent US Prezs visiting and encouraging trade with China is a predicted democratic 'forcing' through the global economy and an increase in civil liberties.

707 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:51:31pm

re: #696 ProLifeLiberal

True, but Journalists shouldn't have to suffer. He's using those in the hotel as human shields.


they should have cut out when the had the chance...I'm not in favor of rescuing journos looking to make a buck on all this misery

708 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:51:51pm

re: #700 goddamnedfrank

Suquamish Indian Tribe Adopts Same Sex Marriage.

Interesting. Most Native American tribes originally accepted gays and gay marriage. They were considered sort of a 3rd gender and in many cases were ofter revered spiritual figures in the tribe. That changed when missionaries showed up.

709 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:52:00pm

re: #688 Alouette

Has any nation ever quit the UN?

Russia boycotted it briefly in early 1950, resulting in the Korean War. They learned their lesson and no nation with veto power has been stupid enough to repeat the stunt.

710 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:54:12pm

re: #677 jamesfirecat

By having the UN that is open even to people who don't agree with us 100% we can make it easier to be "frenemies" with China given that we have massive amounts of trade with them combined with massive problems with their government styles.

Also it makes it possible for us to work alongside nations like China and Russia to take on the not just authoritative but out and out crazy nations like North Korea since it would be impossible for us to make truly effective economic sanctions against them without the support of more than just the democratic nations in the world.

Why, exactly, is it that we need the UN in order to work with nations like China and Russia on these matters? Last I checked, the North Korea issue was being dealt with via the Six-Party group that includes the U.S., Russia, China, Japan and North and South Korea. When nations have common interests, they will come together in pursuit of those interests, with or without UN approval.

Oh, and incidentally, the U.S. and China became "frenemies" not because of our common membership in the UN -- recall, Chinese troops fought a war against US-led UN troops some 60 years ago -- but because of bilateral relations that began under the leadership of the well known liberal, Richard Nixon.

711 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:54:59pm

re: #592 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Conservative elites pine for 2012 hero

i guess the cowboy flavor corporate spokesclown wasn't it after all...

712 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:55:09pm

re: #682 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

To get it right, they had to take the reins away from Berman & Braga and give them to Manny Coto, which was probably the only good decision made in the series' history. The fourth season was how the series should have been from the start, paying homage to what had come before while filling in the blanks, rather than being a Voyager clone.

By the time Paramount tapped Coto to run ST:ENT (because Berman and Braga had thoroughly skullfucked it for three seasons), UPN had already canceled the series effective after the end of season four.

Damn shame, because from what I know of the last season, Coto did a good job running the show.

713 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:55:21pm

re: #691 wrenchwench

Whatever one may think of the UN, they aren't the place I would turn for help with domestic violence, which is what Gus's link was about. There's a problem, yes, but not an international-level problem.

Domestic violence? Was the States rebellion against the UK just domestic violence?

A rebellion causes fundamental changes in a country including how it relates to other nations. That is an international problem.

714 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:55:45pm

re: #710 sliv_the_eli

By today's standards, you realize that Nixon was, indeed, a liberal, right?

Was that the point you were trying to make at the end: that today's right wing is so insane, Nixon would be considered a liberal?

715 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:56:12pm

re: #694 Gus 802

Whatever. It was just a link.

Really fascinating though. I'm learning how little some things have changed around here.

It's always interesting to see how people react. But I wouldn't go so far as to equate anti-UN sentiment with Robert Spencer

716 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:56:43pm

re: #714 Obdicut

By today's standards, you realize that Nixon was, indeed, a liberal, right?

Was that the point you were trying to make at the end: that today's right wing is so insane, Nixon would be considered a liberal?

Heh. I don't think the liberals want him.

717 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:57:03pm

Uh. Journalists in a war theater or conflict are an essential part of the democratic process. Treating them like discardable insects is not what we ought to be doing as a global society.

718 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:57:59pm

re: #699 Gus 802

Pot meet kettle.

I don't spend most of my waking hours posting negative shit here...all the bad jokes aside, I post my opinion

719 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:58:09pm

re: #713 b_sharp

Domestic violence? Was the States rebellion against the UK just domestic violence?

A rebellion causes fundamental changes in a country including how it relates to other nations. That is an international problem.

Battered-women-type domestic violence.

720 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:58:14pm

re: #702 Obdicut

Squeamish Indian Tribe Does Too, But Calls It Civil Partnership.

Obdi, did you know you actually made a joke? It was good too.

721 calochortus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:59:08pm

Killgore, I have two OT questions for you: first, I took a good look at your avatar-are you actually Hadrian VII?

Second, how big is your frog pond and do you use pumps and filters and stuff or do you just let it sit there and be froggy?

722 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:59:35pm

re: #716 Killgore Trout

Heh. I don't think the liberals want him.

I find him a very, very flawed man, but with some incredible accomplishments as president. I wish he hadn't had those flaws.

I kind of think higher of him than I do of JFK, actually.

723 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:59:58pm

re: #720 b_sharp

Obdi, did you know you actually made a joke? It was good too.

You missed my earthquake joke. I should send out a signal.

724 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:00:12pm

re: #705 albusteve

I don't play pretend and make stuff up here...if this, if that is non productive...when the UNHRC slams the Palis once and for all, I might reconsider...but the level of corruption slanted against Israel trumps any bullshit make believe scenario you can dream up...I don't give a shit about Russia or the Chinese...they do not dictate American principle, only hinder it

If they're hindering it, they're affecting it.

725 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:00:31pm

re: #714 Obdicut

By today's standards, you realize that Nixon was, indeed, a liberal, right?

Was that the point you were trying to make at the end: that today's right wing is so insane, Nixon would be considered a liberal?

I didn't read that at all...the past has it's own context, it's not about liberalism...how did you conclude that?...infer much?

726 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:01:09pm

re: #690 jamesfirecat

I can doubtlessly support the principle of operating within the UN to make changes since it would probably be easier to change the existing version than re-create something new and stir up a fresh round of "one world order" crazies

So what sort of changes do you think are necessary within the UN?


Where to start? Here are just a few thoughts:

1. Fiscal accountability.
2. Eliminate electoral rules that are based upon geography and that have proven to result in control of UN organs by non-democratic states.
3. Make adherence to basic human rights principles -- not perfection in this regard, but a real commitment -- a pre-requisite for membership on the UNHRC and similar bodies.

Let's see what else the board can come up with.

727 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:01:40pm

re: #714 Obdicut

By today's standards, you realize that Nixon was, indeed, a liberal, right?

Was that the point you were trying to make at the end: that today's right wing is so insane, Nixon would be considered a liberal?

the fucked up part of nixon's agenda has little in common with the modern "conservative movement" except for the stalinist parts like the "patriot" act

728 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:02:10pm

re: #724 b_sharp

If they're hindering it, they're affecting it.

you're catching on....good

729 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:02:12pm

re: #708 Killgore Trout

Interesting. Most Native American tribes originally accepted gays and gay marriage. They were considered sort of a 3rd gender and in many cases were ofter revered spiritual figures in the tribe. That changed when missionaries showed up.

Missionaries severely damaged aboriginal cultures, as they did with African cultures.

730 Stinky Beaumont  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:02:16pm

Testing...

731 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:03:06pm

re: #730 Stinky Beaumont

coming in loud and clear..........

732 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:03:22pm

Burp.

733 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:04:39pm

The reason Nixon could go to China was that he had impeccable anti-communist cred.

The reason Obama could use drones in the tribal areas of Pakistan, and go in there to take out Bin Laden, and help Libya, etc. is that he has pretty good pro-Islam cred.

That's my theory.

734 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:04:56pm

re: #704 Killgore Trout

Well, you do know that they are selling, right?
Just checking!

735 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:05:02pm

re: #729 b_sharp

Missionaries severely damaged aboriginal cultures, as they did with African cultures.

take a quick look at NM colonial history...it's all there in a nutshell...
the Pueblo simply could not fathom that another culture would kill them because their God Stories were different

736 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:05:11pm

re: #726 sliv_the_eli

What do you want to replace the electoral rules with?

And how do you get China to go along with your "Anyone who isn't a democracy sucks" plan for the UN?

737 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:05:32pm

re: #732 Gus 802

Burp.

pass the Red Stripe

738 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:05:56pm

re: #710 sliv_the_eli

Why, exactly, is it that we need the UN in order to work with nations like China and Russia on these matters? Last I checked, the North Korea issue was being dealt with via the Six-Party group that includes the U.S., Russia, China, Japan and North and South Korea. When nations have common interests, they will come together in pursuit of those interests, with or without UN approval.

Oh, and incidentally, the U.S. and China became "frenemies" not because of our common membership in the UN -- recall, Chinese troops fought a war against US-led UN troops some 60 years ago -- but because of bilateral relations that began under the leadership of the well known liberal, Richard Nixon.

What makes you think the only globally important friction between countries necessarily includes the US? The purpose of the UN is to provide a safety valve for any countries contemplating war. As far as the world is concerned, a poor safety valve is better than no safety valve.

739 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:06:36pm

re: #706 b_sharp

Part of the justification for Nixon and subsequent US Prezs visiting and encouraging trade with China is a predicted democratic 'forcing' through the global economy and an increase in civil liberties.

Mostly, thought, Nixon was motivated by a desire to counter the Soviet Union. Unlike many, he recognized that communist China and the USSR were rivals, and he sought to use each as a counter to the other.

740 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:06:41pm

re: #721 calochortus

Killgore, I have two OT questions for you: first, I took a good look at your avatar-are you actually Hadrian VII?


I had to google that....
Image: Doug-Ryan-as-Hadrian-VII-200x300.jpg
Heh. It's actually Chris Hitchen's head on Buddhas body.

Second, how big is your frog pond and do you use pumps and filters and stuff or do you just let it sit there and be froggy?


The pond is about 8' x 10' and two feet deep. Last time I calculated it's about 2,000 gallons. I do run a filter, a pump and a fountain. The frogs have their own protected areas of the pond to protect them from being eaten by the fish. I have two shallow trays (about 3-4 inches deep) that measure about 2 feet by 4 feet. The frogs prefer the still shallow water of the protected areas. If you just wanted frogs you could just get a kiddie pool, no pump, no filter. Fill it with dechlorinated water and the frogs will probably like it just fine.

741 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:07:31pm

re: #737 albusteve

pass the Red Stripe

Not drinking yet. I have to go to Wal-Mart and pick up some grub, ice, etc. I'd be napping but it's too forking hot. Bleh.

742 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:08:35pm

re: #714 Obdicut

By today's standards, you realize that Nixon was, indeed, a liberal, right?

Was that the point you were trying to make at the end: that today's right wing is so insane, Nixon would be considered a liberal?

By the standards of today's GOP, Genghis Khan was a liberal. Oh, wait, that's what you said.

743 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:09:00pm

re: #734 Floral Giraffe

Well, you do know that they are selling, right?
Just checking!

MAybe, I'm on the lookout. I suspect my trade yesterday triggered something indicating I might be moving my money to another brokerage. I suspect they're just making sure I'm happy and not leaving. Most of my money is in no load mutual funds, they really don't make any money off me.

744 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:09:39pm

re: #742 sliv_the_eli

By the standards of today's GOP, Genghis Khan was a liberal. Oh, wait, that's what you said.

Ghenghis Khan got a bad rap. Everyone was a murdering bastard back then-- at least he had freedom from religious discrimination and a lost-and-found.

745 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:09:55pm

re: #740 Killgore Trout

oops, I forgot which avatar I have up. That's Hitch in a pope hat.

746 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:10:14pm

re: #738 b_sharp

What makes you think the only globally important friction between countries necessarily includes the US? The purpose of the UN is to provide a safety valve for any countries contemplating war. As far as the world is concerned, a poor safety valve is better than no safety valve.

their stated intentions have little to do with history....ask the Rwandans or West Africans, or Lebonese...words alone are worthless

747 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:11:08pm

re: #712 talon_262

By the time Paramount tapped Coto to run ST:ENT (because Berman and Braga had thoroughly skullfucked it for three seasons), UPN had already canceled the series effective after the end of season four.

Damn shame, because from what I know of the last season, Coto did a good job running the show.

It was the best season of the series, perhaps even of Trek in the wake of DS9's finale. Coto managed to put an end to the tumor that was "Temporal Cold War" storyline in the premiere, then went on to basically touch on everything fans had wanted since the series began. If nothing else, it gave us the two-parter "In a Mirror, Darkly," which ranks pretty high up there on best episodes of Trek.

748 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:11:14pm

re: #719 wrenchwench

Battered-women-type domestic violence.

I must have seen different links then.

How much of the recent justification of Afghanistan/Iraq invasions and anti-Islam sentiment involves Islamic attitudes toward women?

We are no longer isolated from other countries, and the current trend of US isolationism isn't going to work. This isn't the early 20th.

749 calochortus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:12:08pm

re: #740 Killgore Trout

Thanks, we don't have room for a big pond and honestly, just want to provide a little habitat for our frogs, so we'll probably go small. I did find a nice little filter to put on the hose to filter the chloramines out. The frogs have done OK with the chloraminated water in the swampy little carnivorous plant pots where they've been hanging out, but I suspect they wouldn't breed successfully without a little filtering.

The Hadrian VII resemblance is impressive :-)

750 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:12:28pm

re: #733 wrenchwench

The reason Nixon could go to China was that he had impeccable anti-communist cred.

The reason Obama could use drones in the tribal areas of Pakistan, and go in there to take out Bin Laden, and help Libya, etc. is that he has pretty good pro-Islam cred because as the capo di tutti capi of the free world, he has the toys with which to do it..

That's my theory.


Fixed it for you.

751 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:12:43pm

re: #723 Obdicut

You missed my earthquake joke. I should send out a signal.

Or, at least a warning.

752 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:13:01pm

re: #750 sliv_the_eli

Fixed it for you.

"because as the capo di tutti capi of the free world, he has the toys with which to do it.."

Why didn't this apply to Bush exactly?

753 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:13:08pm

re: #700 goddamnedfrank

Suquamish Indian Tribe Adopts Same Sex Marriage.

Heard the story on NPR. Nice.

754 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:13:27pm

re: #745 Killgore Trout

oops, I forgot which avatar I have up. That's Hitch in a pope hat.

I'm not into avatars but I get a kick out of that one

755 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:13:36pm

re: #748 b_sharp

I must have seen different links then.

How much of the recent justification of Afghanistan/Iraq invasions and anti-Islam sentiment involves Islamic attitudes toward women?

I think that was mostly post-invasion retro-justification.

756 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:13:59pm

re: #752 jamesfirecat

"because as the capo di tutti capi of the free world, he has the toys with which to do it.."

Why didn't this apply to Bush exactly?

Bush wasn't from Chicago.....

757 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:14:04pm

re: #722 Obdicut

Obdi, given some of our exchanges on LGF, I must confess to being surprised by your confession. Pleasantly so, but surprised nonetheless.

758 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:14:31pm

re: #756 wozzablog

Bush wasn't from Chicago...

good one

759 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:14:42pm

re: #750 sliv_the_eli

Fixed it for you.

That's a simpler and therefore more likely theory, but I still like mine.

760 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:15:12pm

Well damn. Remind me not to bring up the United Nations again. Except of course this part the next time we're cheering Gaddafi's downfall:

re: #672 Gus 802

UN - Security Council imposes sanctions on Libyan authorities in bid to stem violent repression

UN - Security Council Approves ‘No-Fly Zone’ over Libya, Authorizing ‘All Necessary: Measures’ to Protect Civilians, by Vote of 10 in Favour with 5 Abstentions

UN - Security Council authorizes ‘all necessary measures’ to protect civilians in Libya

Might as well throw this in too...

Authorise Libya air strikes, US urges UN
Washington's ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, says new resolution would authorise aerial bombing of Gaddafi's tanks

NATO/US air strikes on Gaddafi. Brought to you by President Obama, the United Nations, NATO and US ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice.

761 Stinky Beaumont  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:15:20pm

Just testing...

762 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:15:36pm

G'night y'all

763 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:15:47pm

re: #757 sliv_the_eli

Obdi, given some of our exchanges on LGF, I must confess to being surprised by your confession. Pleasantly so, but surprised nonetheless.

how nice...I passed on the JFK thing...
ridiculous comparison

764 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:16:09pm

re: #761 Stinky Beaumont

Just testing...

again with the testing, we see you already

765 calochortus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:16:29pm

I hate to post and run, but I need to make dinner. Later, all.

766 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:16:32pm

re: #757 sliv_the_eli

Well, Nixon really was quite progressive. The EPA, his idea for healthcare, the reformation of the Indian bureau, etc. I really feel most of his foul-ups came from personal demons-- like intense paranoia-- and that intellectually he was a far-seeing dude.

767 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:16:35pm

re: #729 b_sharp

Missionaries severely damaged aboriginal cultures, as they did with African cultures.

As an aside, my maternal grandmother had three brothers who were Anglican missionaries to Africa. I sat through several slide shows they brought back to Canada as a kid, and if my memory of those shows is accurate, those three brothers were flaming bigots.

768 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:16:40pm

re: #752 jamesfirecat

"because as the capo di tutti capi of the free world, he has the toys with which to do it.."

Why didn't this apply to Bush exactly?

He had the opportunity but didn't know what to do with it. He went to Iraq.

769 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:17:01pm

re: #736 Obdicut

What do you want to replace the electoral rules with?

And how do you get China to go along with your "Anyone who isn't a democracy sucks" plan for the UN?

Not sure I have a good answer to the first question. As to the second, patience. China has a large and growing middle class, which will, with time, press for more pesronal and political liberties to go along with the limited economic liberties that China's leadership has already allowed.

770 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:18:30pm

Amb. Susan Rice on Libya

BLITZER: So I just want to be precise when you say hundreds of thousands of lives. You still believe that if the United Nations Security Council had not passed that resolution imposing a no-fly zone over Libya, Gadhafi's forces would have gone into Benghazi and killed hundreds of thousands of people? Is that what you're saying, Ambassador?

RICE: Absolutely, Wolf. There's no question about it.

Had the Security Council not acted, had the United States and NATO not acted, Gadhafi would have been able to do and would have done what he pledged to do, which is to go house to house in Benghazi and kill his people like rats. That's his language. In fact, language he's continued to use over the last several days.

But the fact that the Security Council acted, the United States led, that NATO was very much engaged, and we were able to, within days, hand off leadership of the operation to NATO, ensured that those that were at immediate risk - and we mean hours, 24, 48 hours from being overrun - in the city of Benghazi, a city of 700,000 people, were saved. And time was created and space created as Gadhafi's forces were halted in their tracks for the opposition to build its capacity, to protect itself, and to advance the Libyan people's desire for a stable, democratic future free of the dictator, Moammar Gadhafi.

771 Stinky Beaumont  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:19:31pm

I just gotta test...

772 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:19:52pm

re: #760 Gus 802

so the UN said...yes or no?
man, what back up...
in other words the UN dared not defy the US, Germany, France, England, most of Europe, and half the ME?

773 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:21:44pm

re: #766 Obdicut

Well, Nixon really was quite progressive. The EPA, his idea for healthcare, the reformation of the Indian bureau, etc.

Exactly how hippy was RIchard Nixon? He proclaimed the first Earth Day. The dude perspired patchouli and shat rainbows.

774 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:21:47pm

re: #741 Gus 802

Not drinking yet. I have to go to Wal-Mart and pick up some grub, ice, etc. I'd be napping but it's too forking hot. Bleh.

I read that as " go to Wal-Mart and pick up some grubs, lice, etc."

At least when I misread it's usually funny.

775 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:21:48pm

re: #738 b_sharp

What makes you think the only globally important friction between countries necessarily includes the US? The purpose of the UN is to provide a safety valve for any countries contemplating war. As far as the world is concerned, a poor safety valve is better than no safety valve.

Honestly, has the UN ever prevented nations that truly wished to go to war from doing so? That said, your comment misses my point. The notion that without the UN there would be no multilateralism in addressing problems in the world is vastly overstated. The world is awash in multilateral organizations through which nations dialogue in order to address common concerns. To cite just a few: NATO, OECD, ASEAN, OPEC, OIC, and the AU.

776 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:22:22pm

re: #772 albusteve

so the UN said...yes or no?
man, what back up...
in other words the UN dared not defy the US, Germany, France, England, most of Europe, and half the ME?

They passed everything. I already posted that in #672 and #760.

777 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:23:14pm

re: #775 sliv_the_eli

Honestly, has the UN ever prevented nations that truly wished to go to war from doing so? That said, your comment misses my point. The notion that without the UN there would be no multilateralism in addressing problems in the world is vastly overstated. The world is awash in multilateral organizations through which nations dialogue in order to address common concerns. To cite just a few: NATO, OECD, ASEAN, OPEC, OIC, and the AU.

Isn't demanding proof of when the UN prevented nations that truly wished to go to war from doing so asking to prove a double negative? you know like proving that things would have been worse without the Stimulus?

778 Stinky Beaumont  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:23:17pm

Another test...

779 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:23:23pm

re: #776 Gus 802

They passed everything. I already posted that in #672 and #760.

everybody loves a winner...even the UN

780 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:23:40pm

re: #771 Stinky Beaumont

I just gotta test...

positive or negative?

781 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:24:40pm

re: #777 jamesfirecat

Isn't demanding proof of when the UN prevented nations that truly wished to go to war from doing so asking to prove a double negative? you know like proving that things would have been worse without the Stimulus?

it's hardly any different than when you propose the positive effects of the UN...

782 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:25:02pm

re: #746 albusteve

their stated intentions have little to do with history...ask the Rwandans or West Africans, or Lebonese...words alone are worthless

Why throw the baby out with the bath water?

783 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:25:44pm

I wonder if Stinkystein is on the loose?

784 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:25:54pm

re: #755 wrenchwench

I think that was mostly post-invasion retro-justification.

Yes it was.

785 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:26:05pm

re: #781 albusteve

it's hardly any different than when you propose the positive effects of the UN...

The positive things its done can be quantified since they actually took place.

It's a completely different ball game to ask us to prove that without the UN event X would have taken place.

786 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:26:33pm

re: #774 b_sharp

I read that as " go to Wal-Mart and pick up some grubs, lice, etc."

At least when I misread it's usually funny.

This Wal-Mart I got to is pretty normal. Never seen any "people of Wal-Mart" types. If I did I wouldn't go there.

787 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:26:51pm

re: #778 Stinky Beaumont

Another test...

your gradepoint average is going down...

788 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:26:59pm

re: #769 sliv_the_eli

Not sure I have a good answer to the first question. As to the second, patience. China has a large and growing middle class, which will, with time, press for more pesronal and political liberties to go along with the limited economic liberties that China's leadership has already allowed.

The second isn't a solution, either. It's a hope.

789 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:27:16pm

I tellya, bugados, earthquakes, hurricanes, heatwaves, storms, spaghetti monsters! The end is nigh!

How is everyone?

Those on the Right Coast & Colorado, I hope you are safe.

790 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:27:33pm

re: #752 jamesfirecat

"because as the capo di tutti capi of the free world, he has the toys with which to do it.."

Why didn't this apply to Bush exactly?

Not sure what the question is. Bush used drone strikes in Pakistan. As for bin Laden, I am confident Bush would have gone after him, same as Obama did. I assume that Obama had actionable intelligence that Bush never had, and he is to be credited for the gutsy call to act on it, even if it upset Navi Pillay over at the UN.

791 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:28:21pm

re: #771 Stinky Beaumont

I just gotta test...

math?

792 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:28:31pm

re: #786 Gus 802

This Wal-Mart I got to is pretty normal. Never seen any "people of Wal-Mart" types. If I did I wouldn't go there.

793 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:29:27pm

re: #790 sliv_the_eli

Not sure what the question is. Bush used drone strikes in Pakistan. As for bin Laden, I am confident Bush would have gone after him, same as Obama did. I assume that Obama had actionable intelligence that Bush never had, and he is to be credited for the gutsy call to act on it, even if it upset Navi Pillay over at the UN.

Maybe Bush would have had the actionable intelligence that Obama had if he hadn't shut down the unit responsible for getting him that intelligence.

794 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:30:02pm

re: #775 sliv_the_eli

Honestly, has the UN ever prevented nations that truly wished to go to war from doing so? /blockquote>

Yes, depending on how much you're loading the dice by saying 'truly'.

The notion that without the UN there would be no multilateralism in addressing problems in the world is vastly overstated.

Who said that there would be no multilaterialism? You seriously think that I'm enough of an idiot to think there were no multi-country treaties or agreements before the UN, or what?

795 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:32:03pm

re: #749 calochortus

Thanks, we don't have room for a big pond and honestly, just want to provide a little habitat for our frogs, so we'll probably go small. I did find a nice little filter to put on the hose to filter the chloramines out. The frogs have done OK with the chloraminated water in the swampy little carnivorous plant pots where they've been hanging out, but I suspect they wouldn't breed successfully without a little filtering.

The Hadrian VII resemblance is impressive :-)

They actually might do well without filtering. The tadpoles are sensitive to chemicals and pollutants but they seem to actually like stagnant algae infested water. They love to eat string algae. They don;t like strong currents so if you do use a filter get a small relatively slow pump. Load up on lots of plants and rocks to allow them to stay out of strong currents. Those two small shallow trays I have produced about 1-200 tadpoles this year. It doesn't take much.

796 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:32:13pm

re: #790 sliv_the_eli

Not sure what the question is. Bush used drone strikes in Pakistan. As for bin Laden, I am confident Bush would have gone after him, same as Obama did. I assume that Obama had actionable intelligence that Bush never had, and he is to be credited for the gutsy call to act on it, even if it upset Navi Pillay over at the UN.

During Operation Jawbreaker Gary Berntsen asked for 800 Army Rangers to seal up the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, Bush (already planning for Iraq) sent him none and tried to rely on the Pakistanis to intercept Bin Laden.

797 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:32:16pm

re: #777 jamesfirecat

Isn't demanding proof of when the UN prevented nations that truly wished to go to war from doing so asking to prove a double negative? you know like proving that things would have been worse without the Stimulus?

(Psst. It doesn't have to be a double negative, just a negative.)

798 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:32:22pm

re: #793 jamesfirecat


Maybe Bush would have had the actionable intelligence that Obama had if he hadn't shut down the unit responsible for getting him that intelligence.

LOL!...only a couple people in the world know what the CIA is up to and the president is not one of them...don't believe everything you read and nothing about the CIA...they feed you what they want you to think

799 Stinky Beaumont  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:32:51pm

Must ... test ...

800 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:33:22pm

re: #715 wrenchwench

I was losing my cool. This time almost literally.

801 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:33:58pm

re: #799 Stinky Beaumont

I saw the edit button for a moment there.

802 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:34:29pm

re: #801 Obdicut

I saw the edit button for a moment there.

Oh yeah. I see one too.

803 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:34:41pm

Testing 1, 2, 3...

804 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:34:43pm

re: #766 Obdicut

Well, Nixon really was quite progressive. The EPA, his idea for healthcare, the reformation of the Indian bureau, etc. I really feel most of his foul-ups came from personal demons-- like intense paranoia-- and that intellectually he was a far-seeing dude.

Odd that in the hyper-partisan politics of today's U.S., most forget that it was a Republican who created the national park system, a Republican who ordered the 101st Airborne into Little Rock to enforce the directive to integrate Central Hight School and a Republican who created the EPA. Of cousre, no Republican would have a prayer of getting the nomination today on those platforms.

805 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:34:58pm

re: #799 Stinky Beaumont

Must ... test ...

Ok, go ahead.

The answer is 42.

806 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:35:24pm

re: #804 sliv_the_eli

Odd that in the hyper-partisan politics of today's U.S., most forget that it was a Republican who created the national park system, a Republican who ordered the 101st Airborne into Little Rock to enforce the directive to integrate Central Hight School and a Republican who created the EPA. Of cousre, no Republican would have a prayer of getting the nomination today on those platforms.

You are correct sir, the GOP has gone from the Party of Lincoln to the party of Jefferson Davis.

807 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:35:30pm

I see it, I see it!

808 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:35:36pm

We've got pencil! Still in the works I see.

809 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:35:57pm

re: #804 sliv_the_eli

I think people 'forget' it because it's mostly irrelevant. Teddy Rooselevelt was a literal progressive, a trust-buster who took on powerful corporations.

There is very little beyond a name tying him to the current party.

810 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:36:21pm

re: #808 Gus 802

We've got pencil! Still in the works I see.

Ah, but only on your own posts.

Kinda takes the fun factor out of the equation. . . .

:0

811 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:37:13pm

More Kitties!

812 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:37:40pm

re: #810 ggt

Ah, but only on your own posts.

Kinda takes the fun factor out of the equation. . . .

:0

Really? I see a pencil next to your comment as well!

Bwahahahaha!

//

813 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:37:57pm

re: #812 Gus 802

Really? I see a pencil next to your comment as well!

Bwahahahaha!

//

LIAR!

814 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:38:28pm

re: #812 Gus 802

Really? I see a pencil next to your comment as well!

Bwahahahaha!

//

LIES UPON MORE LIES!

815 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:38:45pm

Just saw the edit box.

816 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:39:00pm

OK, maybe not.

817 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:39:00pm

re: #777 jamesfirecat

Isn't demanding proof of when the UN prevented nations that truly wished to go to war from doing so asking to prove a double negative? you know like proving that things would have been worse without the Stimulus?

OK, let's pose the question this way. Identify any armed conflict that the UN, in fact, prevented from occurring.

818 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:39:06pm

And only on the most recent post?

819 Stinky Beaumont  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:39:16pm

And ... again ... I test ...

The new 2-minute comment editing feature!

820 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:39:22pm

re: #815 Gus 802

Just saw the edit box.

DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER...MASS HYSTERIA!

821 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:39:39pm

re: #814 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'M A BIG FAN OF ABBA. MAMA MIA IS MY FAVORITE SONG!

Tell me more!

//

822 Stinky Beaumont  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:39:53pm

Oh yes. Yes indeed.

823 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:40:00pm

I never got ABBA. Not a big fan.

824 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:40:17pm

re: #798 albusteve

LOL!...only a couple people in the world know what the CIA is up to and the president is not one of them...don't believe everything you read and nothing about the CIA...they feed you what they want you to think

How did you become one of those 'in the know' people? Who did you bribe?

825 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:40:21pm

Most recent two posts?

Means we have to think quick.

826 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:40:37pm

re: #817 sliv_the_eli

OK, let's pose the question this way. Identify any armed conflict that the UN, in fact, prevented from occurring.

The US and the USSR never directly declared war on each other.

827 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:40:40pm

re: #821 Gus 802

Tell me more!

//

I KEEL YOU!

828 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:40:42pm

re: #809 Obdicut

I think people 'forget' it because it's mostly irrelevant. Teddy Rooselevelt was a literal progressive, a trust-buster who took on powerful corporations.

There is very little beyond a name tying him to the current party.

TR loved New Mexicans...he could have been a commie for all they cared

829 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:40:56pm

re: #817 sliv_the_eli

OK, let's pose the question this way. Identify any armed conflict that the UN, in fact, prevented from occurring.

If it didn't happen, how can you identify it as having been prevented?

Can you identify any conflict, ever, that was ever prevented from happening?

830 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:41:12pm

re: #824 b_sharp

How did you become one of those 'in the know' people? Who did you bribe?

Stinky.

831 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:41:43pm

Bwah? Am I missing something?

Edit: Fantastic!

832 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:41:45pm

re: #810 ggt

Ah, but only on your own posts.

Kinda takes the fun factor out of the equation. . . .

:0

I want to edit other posts. :(

833 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:41:59pm

2 minute window.

Great Ray Bradbury, we have an edit key!

834 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:42:24pm

Testing

1 2 3

4 5 6

7 8 9

835 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:42:25pm

re: #819 Stinky Beaumont

2 minute edit.
Hmmm.
Could be fun to test.
BEWARE Stinky's wrench!

836 Stinky Beaumont  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:42:35pm

Yes, ladies and gentle lizards. We have achieved pencil.

837 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:42:36pm

re: #826 jamesfirecat

The US and the USSR never directly declared war on each other.

Yeah, but you have me to thank for that.

Oops, I said too much.

838 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:42:38pm

re: #831 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Bwah? Am I missing something?

I don't know, how much did you offer Stinky?

Or have you recently had prostate surgery in England?

839 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:43:02pm

Ah, it works, I tried it and it works!

840 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:43:03pm

re: #825 ggt

Most recent two posts?

Means we have to think quick.

LOL!
It could be teh hard!
///

841 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:43:50pm

re: #824 b_sharp

How did you become one of those 'in the know' people? Who did you bribe?

inside the CIA, deniability is extremely important...it's also compartmentalized to the point where few know everything, maybe even nobody...it's common knowledge....that's why they are so effective, not that they don't blow it once in a while

842 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:43:54pm

re: #838 ggt

I don't know, how much did you offer Stinky?

Or have you recently had prostrate surgery in England?

Woke up in a tub of ice, with a note saying "Go to hospital," along with some stitches in my side.

Think it means anything?

///

843 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:43:59pm

Once upon a time in land not so far away...

844 Stinky Beaumont  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:44:04pm

Probably the single most-requested feature ever is now a reality.

845 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:44:37pm

re: #844 Stinky Beaumont

Probably the single most-requested feature ever is now a reality.

Does this mean we've seen the end of "PIMF"?

846 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:44:45pm

re: #809 Obdicut

I think people 'forget' it because it's mostly irrelevant. Teddy Rooselevelt was a literal progressive, a trust-buster who took on powerful corporations.

There is very little beyond a name tying him to the current party.

It also shows how the American political parties have changed over the decades...they really have more or less flip-flopped on what they stand for, haven't they?

Edit: Testing...1,2,3.

847 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:44:51pm

re: #844 Stinky Beaumont

Could you make the edited comment not take you to the top of the thread? Please?
Thank you!

848 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:45:01pm

re: #842 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Woke up in a tub of ice, with a note saying "Go to hospital," along with some stitches in my side.

Think it means anything?

///

Not at all. Prolly just and insect bite.

849 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:45:12pm

re: #793 jamesfirecat

Maybe Bush would have had the actionable intelligence that Obama had if he hadn't shut down the unit responsible for getting him that intelligence.

That, of course, would be the unit that existed before 9/11 and failed to provide the actionable intelligence to kill or capture bin Laden before his hirelings could kill a few thousand people.
Are you seriously suggesting that Bush stopped looking for bin Laden, and that he was located only because President Obama reversed that policy? If so, that reflects a level of willful blindness that parallels the folks who peddle the Obama is a sekrit muslim tripe.

850 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:45:15pm

re: #844 Stinky Beaumont

I just tried it and didn't get a success story. I added a line, but when I hit to post it, it refreshed the page but the post remained unedited.

851 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:45:45pm

You will need to reload your browser to get all the latest code in place.

852 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:45:54pm

re: #843 Gus 802

Once upon a time in land not so far away...

I just changed this three times. No problems.

I'll even add some more text to this.

A B C D

853 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:45:55pm

Could I get a blue pencil instead of a red one?

854 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:46:08pm

re: #849 sliv_the_eli

That, of course, would be the unit that existed before 9/11 and failed to provide the actionable intelligence to kill or capture bin Laden before his hirelings could kill a few thousand people.
Are you seriously suggesting that Bush stopped looking for bin Laden, and that he was located only because President Obama reversed that policy? If so, that reflects a level of willful blindness that parallels the folks who peddle the Obama is a sekrit muslim tripe.

If Bush was serious about finding Bin Laden he never would have gone into Iraq.

855 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:47:22pm

re: #851 Charles

Testing your new toy, Sir.
Because Stinky said I could!
LOL!

856 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:47:29pm

re: #849 sliv_the_eli

That, of course, would be the unit that existed before 9/11 and failed to provide the actionable intelligence to kill or capture bin Laden before his hirelings could kill a few thousand people.
Are you seriously suggesting that Bush stopped looking for bin Laden, and that he was located only because President Obama reversed that policy? If so, that reflects a level of willful blindness that parallels the folks who peddle the Obama is a sekrit muslim tripe.

the 'fact' that Bush dropped the ball on OBL is accepted here, no question...
I find it hilarious and very similar to RW rants

857 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:47:30pm

re: #847 Floral Giraffe

Could you make the edited comment not take you to the top of the thread? Please?
Thank you!

The first time I just tried to edit my post, I got kicked out to the front page. The second time, it let me do it.

858 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:48:04pm

re: #853 b_sharp

Could I get a blue pencil instead of a red one?

To go with your lovely blue sock?

859 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:48:15pm

re: #854 jamesfirecat

If Bush was serious about finding Bin Laden he never would have gone into Iraq.

bullshit
LOL!...you guys crack me up

860 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:48:24pm

re: #849 sliv_the_eli

That, of course, would be the unit that existed before 9/11 and failed to provide the actionable intelligence to kill or capture bin Laden before his hirelings could kill a few thousand people.
Are you seriously suggesting that Bush stopped looking for bin Laden, and that he was located only because President Obama reversed that policy? If so, that reflects a level of willful blindness that parallels the folks who peddle the Obama is a sekrit muslim tripe.

I try not to put words in people's mouth...

So I'll let George W Bush say this for himself.

"I just don't spend that much time on him..."

861 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:48:31pm

re: #857 talon_262

It worked, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Charles & Stinky.
Anyone need to hit the tip jar?
Yes, you...

862 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:48:43pm

re: #858 wrenchwench

To go with your blue sock stockings?

FTFY

//

863 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:49:10pm

re: #862 Gus 802

FTFY

//

Aha, you quoted it before I changed it!

864 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:49:24pm

re: #858 wrenchwench

To go with your blue sock?

So, I'm fashion conscious. ;P

865 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:49:47pm

re: #851 Charles

You will need to reload your browser to get all the latest code in place.

oh, duh, should have figured I'd have to do that.

866 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:50:01pm

re: #858 wrenchwench

Stalkings?
Stockings.
Socks.
Much ado about leggings!

867 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:50:05pm

re: #844 Stinky Beaumont

Probably the single most-requested feature ever is now a reality.

Can you make it take out my trash and do the laundry & dishes? That would be great.

868 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:50:14pm

re: #863 wrenchwench

Aha, you quoted it before I changed it!

Yeah, I noticed that. Have to reload the page to get the new edits. Otherwise the quote function picks up the unedited version(s).

869 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:50:39pm

It was the dawn of the third age of LGF...

/

870 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:51:16pm

re: #858 wrenchwench

To go with your blue sock?


Silly, you don't need a sock to go "blue" around here! ;-P

871 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:51:25pm
872 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:51:33pm

re: #846 talon_262

It also shows how the American political parties have changed over the decades...they really have more or less flip-flopped on what they stand for, haven't they?

republicans became the party of the business establishment immediately after the civil war, although there were traces of progressive elements in it still in the 30s, and moderate-to-liberals like rockefeller until the 70s

the populist and progressive movements did not become allied with the democratic party until the election of 1892. the racist allied dixiecrats remained the other part of the democratic party until the 70s

it was the combination of lbj's civil rights act and the coming of ronald reagan that separated out the dixiecrats into the republican party and made non-conservative republicans extinct

873 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:51:39pm

re: #869 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It was the dawn of the third age of LGF...

/

and the Ring was FOUND!

874 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:51:44pm

Testing in spy mode.

875 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:52:07pm

re: #868 Gus 802

Yeah, I noticed that. Have to reload the page to get the new edits. Otherwise the quote function picks up the unedited version(s).

Mine picks up the edits right away (FF 5.0).

876 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:52:12pm

re: #872 engineer dog

republicans became the party of the business establishment immediately after the civil war, although there were traces of progressive elements in it still in the 30s, and moderate-to-liberals like rockefeller until the 70s

the populist and progressive movements did not become allied with the democratic party until the election of 1892. the racist allied dixiecrats remained the other part of the democratic party until the 70s

it was the combination of lbj's civil rights act and the coming of ronald reagan that separated out the dixiecrats into the republican party and made non-conservative republicans extinct

THen William Buckley died and it all went to shit.

877 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:52:21pm

You have two minutes after posting your comment to decide you need to change something.

Once you click the pencil icon and open the editing dialog, you have five minutes from the time your comment was posted to submit your changes.

I'm deliberately keeping the time limits rather short, because the idea is to quickly fix a typo, not rewrite an entire comment.

Also, once your comment is posted, everyone who has already loaded it in their browsers will continue to see the old, unedited comment until they reload the page. There's no easy way to force all the browsers out there to reload edited comments, unfortunately.

878 jaunte  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:52:25pm

toasting
...
toasting
...
toasting

879 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:52:33pm

Oops. I don't see the edit feature in spy mode.

880 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:52:43pm

Now we can all be Winston Smith.
Or maybe just pretend to be, for a minute or two.

Hope the new feature works out well, Charles.

881 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:52:43pm

re: #869 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It was the dawn of the third age of LGF...

/

An age of fire

882 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:52:57pm

re: #875 CuriousLurker

Mine picks up the edits right away (FF 5.0).

Other people's edits?

883 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:52:58pm

re: #869 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It was the dawn of the third age of LGF...

/

What is this? Babylon 5? /

884 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:53:22pm

re: #877 Charles

You have two minutes after posting your comment to decide you need to change something.

Once you click the pencil icon and open the editing dialog, you have five minutes from the time your comment was posted to submit your changes.

I'm deliberately keeping the time limits rather short, because the idea is to quickly fix a typo, not rewrite an entire comment.

Also, once your comment is posted, everyone who has already loaded it in their browsers will continue to see the old, unedited comment until they reload the page. There's no easy way to force all the browsers out there to reload edited comments, unfortunately.

Hazzah, never again will I need to make an entire new post to fix a spelling error....

885 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:53:32pm

re: #877 Charles

You have two minutes after posting your comment to decide you need to change something.

Once you click the pencil icon and open the editing dialog, you have five minutes from the time your comment was posted to submit your changes.

I'm deliberately keeping the time limits rather short, because the idea is to quickly fix a typo, not rewrite an entire comment.

Also, once your comment is posted, everyone who has already loaded it in their browsers will continue to see the old, unedited comment until they reload the page. There's no easy way to force all the browsers out there to reload edited comments, unfortunately.

truly awesome!

886 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:53:52pm

re: #882 Gus 802

Other people's edits?

No, just mine.

887 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:54:20pm

re: #886 CuriousLurker

No, just mine.

Yep. Ditto. Charles explained above.

888 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:54:36pm

re: #877 Charles

Very cool. Thanks, Charles.

889 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:55:36pm

hat's of to Charles...I'm no net head and know nothing about writing code...but I've been here a while and if CJ does a thing that he's proud of then I concede my respect....
BARTENDER!

890 jaunte  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:55:40pm

re: #877 Charles

Great feature, thanks.

891 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:55:48pm

re: #877 Charles

You have two minutes after posting your comment to decide you need to change something.

Once you click the pencil icon and open the editing dialog, you have five minutes from the time your comment was posted to submit your changes.

I'm deliberately keeping the time limits rather short, because the idea is to quickly fix a typo, not rewrite an entire comment.

Also, once your comment is posted, everyone who has already loaded it in their browsers will continue to see the old, unedited comment until they reload the page. There's no easy way to force all the browsers out there to reload edited comments, unfortunately.

No AJAX magic available, like for the New Comments auto-refresh function?

892 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:56:08pm
893 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:56:22pm

re: #871 ggt

Does anyone know what this is about?

About 35 letters long.

894 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:56:47pm

re: #856 albusteve

the 'fact' that Bush dropped the ball on OBL is accepted here, no question...
I find it hilarious and very similar to RW rants

So when Gary Berntsen's request for 800 Army Rangers was denied, that wasn't Bush dropping the ball?

895 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:57:09pm

re: #877 Charles

excellent gui design!

896 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:57:24pm

re: #878 jaunte

toasting
...
toasting
...
toasting

Well, you just burnt the toast. Satisfied?

897 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:57:40pm

re: #892 ggt

So, what did she really die of?

The family says the toxicology report of a well-known habitual drug user shows no drugs in her system at the time of her death.

Yeah, I'm more than a little skeptical.

898 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:57:40pm

re: #877 Charles

Editing posted messages? Awesome. The force is strong with that idea... but with power comes responsibility. Is there a way that people viewing the thread as it progresses to know that items have been edited? Some kind of flagging system?

899 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:57:42pm

party time
Stones

900 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:58:16pm

re: #896 b_sharp

Well, you just burnt the toast. Satisfied?

Toasters don't burn toast! People burn toast!

/

901 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:58:18pm

BIAW

902 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:59:13pm

WTF?

I don't understand people, well men, well young men.

Group rape celebration?

903 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:59:19pm

re: #894 goddamnedfrank

So when Gary Berntsen's request for 800 Army Rangers was denied, that wasn't Bush dropping the ball?

Gary who?...
the hunt for OBL is not public knowledge yet...
you want to finger somebody so bad you lose track of reality

904 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:59:24pm

re: #742 sliv_the_eli

By the standards of today's GOP, Genghis Khan was a liberal. Oh, wait, that's what you said.

Hell, Genghis probably was a liberal.

Did the Great Khan care who you were sleeping with?

Did the Great Khan care about your religion?

I rest my case.

//

905 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 5:59:53pm

re: #900 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Toasters don't burn toast! People burn toast!

/

Depends on the toaster.

906 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:00:00pm

re: #900 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, depends on your definition of toaster.

907 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:00:00pm

I have just had it. Fire up the q. No, not really. I'm fine.

908 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:00:04pm

re: #900 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Toasters don't burn toast! People burn toast!

/

so true

909 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:00:14pm

re: #902 ggt

WTF?

I don't understand people, well men, well young men.

Group rape celebration?

Farking idiots.

910 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:00:56pm

re: #755 wrenchwench

I think that was mostly post-invasion retro-justification.

And pre-invasion build-up.

I get angry about that, I just do. The women of Afghanistan were no one's agenda until it became desirable for the US to invade Afghanistan.

911 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:01:10pm

re: #898 lawhawk

Editing posted messages? Awesome. The force is strong with that idea... but with power comes responsibility. Is there a way that people viewing the thread as it progresses to know that items have been edited? Some kind of flagging system?

The easiest way may be a bit of self-awareness: if you edit the content more than a typo or minor edit, put an Edit tag in.

Just my $0.02...

912 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:01:11pm

re: #905 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Depends on the toaster.

[Video]

Well, a toaster is only a death ray with a smaller power supply.

913 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:01:55pm

Awsome code-fu, Charles.

914 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:02:04pm

re: #906 lawhawk

Well, depends on your definition of toaster.

Um, can I get 6 of those please? And you don't have to wrap them, I'll be using them immediately.

915 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:03:01pm

re: #911 talon_262

The easiest way may be a bit of self-awareness: if you edit the content more than a typo or minor edit, put an Edit tag in.

Just my $0.02...

That would be common courtesy.

916 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:03:05pm

re: #910 SanFranciscoZionist

And pre-invasion build-up.

I get angry about that, I just do. The women of Afghanistan were no one's agenda until it became desirable for the US to invade Afghanistan.

that's nobodies fault...they seem to accept it that way...
we need to get the hell out of there, pronto

917 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:03:36pm

re: #914 b_sharp

Um, can I get 6 of those please? And you don't have to wrap them, I'll be using them immediately.

I'll take a baker's dozen worth of 3s

918 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:03:42pm

re: #893 b_sharp

About 35 letters long.

Good Answer!

*applause* from family members.

919 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:04:24pm

re: #907 Stanley Sea

Hi Honey!

920 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:07:02pm

Only .03 Million Chromists. (50% described)

Vocabulary Word for tomorrow.

Wikipedia English - The Free Encyclopedia
The Chromista are a eukaryotic supergroup, probably polyphyletic, which may be treated as a separate kingdom or included among the Protista. They include all algae whose chloroplasts contain chlorophylls a and c, as well as various colorless forms that are closely related to them. These are surrounded by four membranes, and are believed to have been acquired from some red alga.

or

Someone who works with colors.

921 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:07:02pm

re: #918 ggt

Good Answer!

*applause* from family members.

Do I win a toaster?

922 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:07:22pm

Hi. I was at work near 3400 Blk of Walnut Street in Philly. I thought it was a heavy truck rumbling by since there is a lot of construction in West Philly/University City area. Someone who I know in the area told me it was an earthquake. I originally heard 5.8 and that is what USGS is currently reporting.

923 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:07:45pm

re: #903 albusteve

Gary who?...

Berntsen, the CIA officer who headed up the team hunting for Bin Laden in Afghanistan under Bush.

924 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:08:33pm

Time to feed the kittehs.

Later, lizards.

925 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:09:00pm

Libya unrest: Defiant Gaddafi vows 'death or victory'

Col Muammar Gaddafi has vowed death or victory in the fight against "aggression", reports say, after Libyan rebels seized his Tripoli compound.

Pro-Gaddafi al-Urubah TV said the colonel - whose whereabouts remain unknown - made an audio speech, saying the retreat from the Bab al-Aziziya compound was a "tactical move".

926 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:10:21pm

re: #921 b_sharp

Do I win a toaster?

Depends on if you beat the poll, point wise.

927 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:11:24pm

re: #925 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So too was Saddam Hussein's tactical retreat into a rat hole in Tikrit.

From the autocratic despot who lived large while the country suffered to a thug on the run, being hunted like a dog. Yeah, Mumar's making real good decisions here. ///

All that could have been avoided had he chosen to live out in exile and avoid further bloodshed.

928 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:11:49pm

Sometimes, this just has to be played.

929 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:12:44pm

re: #919 Floral Giraffe

Hi Honey!

Hey Ms. Floral! Good to see ya!

930 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:13:07pm
931 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:13:29pm

re: #925 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Libya unrest: Defiant Gaddafi vows 'death or victory'

He has chosen death! (Awww...says the crowd) But first, Giji!!!

932 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:14:11pm

re: #927 lawhawk

So too was Saddam Hussein's tactical retreat into a rat hole in Tikrit.

From the autocratic despot who lived large while the country suffered to a thug on the run, being hunted like a dog. Yeah, Mumar's making real good decisions here. ///

All that could have been avoided had he chosen to live out in exile and avoid further bloodshed.

He could be livin' the big la vida loca in Paris or somewhere, but nooooooo, he just couldn't give up the state paid all-girl guard.

933 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:14:30pm

re: #930 ggt
Oh gee, there is still a curfew in Philly because of those kids and the flash mobs

934 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:14:41pm
935 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:15:09pm

Testing a laptop connection here.

936 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:15:35pm

re: #920 ggt

Only .03 Million Chromists. (50% described)

Vocabulary Word for tomorrow.

Wikipedia English - The Free Encyclopedia
The Chromista are a eukaryotic supergroup, probably polyphyletic, which may be treated as a separate kingdom or included among the Protista.

will pam geller accuse them of trying to impose eukaryotic law on americans?

937 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:15:47pm

re: #935 Gus 802

Testing a laptop connection here.

Test Unsuccessful

Abort, Retry, Fail?

/

938 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:16:06pm

re: #923 goddamnedfrank

Berntsen, the CIA officer who headed up the team hunting for Bin Laden in Afghanistan under Bush.

I'm not defending GBs denial of troops to try and find OBL....he may have had better intel at the time...my point is that he supposedly dropped the ball entirely and the CIA gave up the chase...that's just folly...we will know exactly how it went down someday...I'm not discounting Brentsens word but it a small slice of a bigger picture....much bigger

939 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:16:16pm

re: #937 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Test Unsuccessful

Abort, Retry, Fail?

/

Works!

940 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:17:18pm

As much as an idiot as he is, I'd rather have Biden as VP than anyone on the GOP ticket.

941 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:17:23pm

I am in spy mode because it is the only way I can comment since the comment count is above 500

942 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:18:07pm

re: #936 engineer dog

will pam geller accuse them of trying to impose eukaryotic law on americans?

Vocabulary word for the day after tomorrow.

Eukarotic

943 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:18:32pm

re: #937 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Test Unsuccessful

Abort, Retry, Fail?

/

Using the Wifi now. Keyboard will take some getting used to.

944 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:18:48pm

re: #937 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Test Unsuccessful

Abort, Retry, Fail?

/

You will not abort with Public Funds!

945 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:18:50pm

re: #919 Floral Giraffe

Hi Honey!

Hey, how come you can call each other 'honey', but if I call a girl honey, babe, or doll, I get a toaster thrown at my head?

946 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:19:36pm

A pencil thread upstairs!

947 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:19:41pm

re: #945 b_sharp

Hey, how come you can call each other 'honey', but if I call a girl honey, babe, or doll, I get a toaster thrown at my head?

Be glad it's not a refrigerator!

/

948 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:19:55pm

re: #939 Gus 802

Works!

OT Is the cable company fail when you all of a sudden have no internet and "local only" shows up on your wi fi?

Been happening a bit lately.

[edit]

Oh and I'm pissed.

949 Digital Display  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:20:04pm

Good evening Lizards...Work was brutal today...Hope everyone is well..
Did you George Washington was the only President in US History that couldn't blame everything on the previous administration?

950 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:20:28pm

re: #945 b_sharp

Hey, how come you can call each other 'honey', but if I call a girl honey, babe, or doll, I get a toaster thrown at my head?

it's social selective....you're supposed to know about that stuff

951 Canucknghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:20:50pm

re: #947 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Be glad it's not a refrigerator!

/

Girls can't lift a refrigerator.

Can they?

952 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:21:15pm

re: #894 goddamnedfrank

So when Gary Berntsen's request for 800 Army Rangers was denied, that wasn't Bush dropping the ball?

Not necessarily, a decision to let local fighters get after him who knew the terrain was a mistake, but an understandable one. The fear our guys would get chewed up trying to orient on the ground properly was certainly a legit worry.

What hindsight taught us is not to be taken as obvious in advance of the battle. The moonbats tend to claim this was somehow deliberate as if GWB did not want him caught. Which is utter self serving rubbish IMO.

953 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:21:21pm

re: #949 HoosierHoops

Good evening Lizards...Work was brutal today...Hope everyone is well..
Did you George Washington was the only President in US History that couldn't blame everything on the previous administration?

Sure he did! He blamed King George all the time.

"I'd lower taxes, but King George forced us into that war, so we need the taxes to pay for the war."

/

954 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:21:30pm

re: #949 HoosierHoops

Good evening Lizards...Work was brutal today...Hope everyone is well..
Did you George Washington was the only President in US History that couldn't blame everything on the previous administration?

George got drunk at Ft Pitt

955 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:22:28pm

re: #951 b_sharp

Girls can't lift a refrigerator.

Can they?

Obviously you've never had a girlfriend from East Germany.

/Christ, that joke's older than me!

956 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:22:31pm

re: #948 Stanley Sea

OT Is the cable company fail when you all of a sudden have no internet and "local only" shows up on your wi fi?

Been happening a bit lately.

[edit]

Oh and I'm pissed.

First time I've tried it. It's Verizon DSL with a wireless transmitter. Working good. I can watch movies now without worrying since it's not limited by 5Gs per month. I can also used this laptop while I'm on the road.

957 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:23:33pm

re: #956 Gus 802

First time I've tried it. It's Verizon DSL with a wireless transmitter. Working good. I can watch movies now without worrying since it's not limited by 5Gs per month. I can also used this laptop while I'm on the road.

You ditched AT&T? I think this calls for a drink!

958 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:27:21pm

re: #952 Rightwingconspirator

Not necessarily, a decision to let local fighters get after him who knew the terrain was a mistake, but an understandable one. The fear our guys would get chewed up trying to orient on the ground properly was certainly a legit worry.

What hindsight taught us is not to be taken as obvious in advance of the battle. The moonbats tend to claim this was somehow deliberate as if GWB did not want him caught. Which is utter self serving rubbish IMO.

the hunt for OBL crossed admins and played out nicely....wait it out, keep looking and presto!...no muss no fuss...presidents deserve the least of the credit

959 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:27:22pm

re: #957 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

You ditched AT&T? I think this calls for a drink!

Still got that too for about another month.

960 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:27:56pm

re: #949 HoosierHoops


LOL!
Hiya Hoopster!
Hope you are well?

961 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:28:22pm

re: #959 Gus 802

Still got that too for about another month.

Well, at least it's only for another month. A pox upon their house!

962 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:28:46pm

re: #961 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, at least it's only for another month. A pox upon their house!

Yeah. They suck.

963 Alouenghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:29:35pm

re: #799 Stinky Beaumont

Must ... test ...

Why is it that the more you test the crap out of a new program in development, the sooner and harder it will crash when you move it to production?

964 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:29:43pm

re: #729 b_sharp

Missionaries severely damaged aboriginal cultures, as they did with African cultures.

Not to mention their own cultures. Some of the world's most self-loathing people.

965 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:33:25pm

BBL

966 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:52:48pm

re: #796 goddamnedfrank

During Operation Jawbreaker Gary Berntsen asked for 800 Army Rangers to seal up the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, Bush (already planning for Iraq) sent him none and tried to rely on the Pakistanis to intercept Bin Laden.

I must have missed the part where Berntsen or any other knowledgeable source claims that President Bush made the decision no to send him the soldiers he requested. I have seen where he has claimed that his request was turned down by military brass and/or by his superiors at the CIA, but have located no source with actual knowledge of the facts who has claimed that then President Bush denied the request or that his decision to go to war in Iraq was the basis for such a decision. If you are aware of such a source, please point me to it, so I can be better informed. If my understanding is mistaken, I will happily acknowledge the error. Otherwise, this tale will just have to go in the BDS file.

967 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:57:06pm

re: #826 jamesfirecat

The US and the USSR never directly declared war on each other.

And you think this was because of the UN? Really??!

968 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:58:57pm

re: #829 Obdicut

If it didn't happen, how can you identify it as having been prevented?

Can you identify any conflict, ever, that was ever prevented from happening?

The Cuban Missile Crisis comes immediately to mind. As I recall, the UN had nothing to do with that ending without open war.

OK, now your turn.

969 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:21:07pm

re: #854 jamesfirecat

If Bush was serious about finding Bin Laden he never would have gone into Iraq.

That may be a nice, comforting meme for those to whom Bush was the devil incarnate, but it bears little resemblance to reality. President Obama was running wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, had our military participating in a NATO-led air offensive in Libya, and has generally been presiding over a massive increase in the deployment of U.S. special forces throughout the world, while also dealing with upheaval throughout the Arab/Muslim world and significant economic problems at home, when he authorized the mission that killed bin Laden. The difference between Bush and Obama is not a difference in desire, but a simple matter of President Obama having had actionable intelligence.

970 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:37:48pm

re: #894 goddamnedfrank

So when Gary Berntsen's request for 800 Army Rangers was denied, that wasn't Bush dropping the ball?

As the source to which you linked indicates, the answer to your question is that, no, it was CENTCOM that dropped the ball. Now, if you were to say that the ball was dropped on Bush's watch, and that he, therefore, is responsible for the military's blunder, that would at least be factually accurate. It would also, however, be akin to stating that the Battle of the Bulge occurred because FDR dropped the ball.

971 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:40:09pm

re: #897 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The family says the toxicology report of a well-known habitual drug user shows no drugs in her system at the time of her death.

Yeah, I'm more than a little skeptical.

No "no drugs". "No illegal drugs". Michael Jackson and Marilyn Monroe did not have illegal drugs in their systems when they died, either.

972 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:46:14pm

re: #927 lawhawk

So too was Saddam Hussein's tactical retreat into a rat hole in Tikrit.

From the autocratic despot who lived large while the country suffered to a thug on the run, being hunted like a dog. Yeah, Mumar's making real good decisions here. ///

All that could have been avoided had he chosen to live out in exile and avoid further bloodshed.

The Venezuela option is probably still avaialble to him.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

973 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:38:15am

re: #293 Varek Raith

Did you mean,
I want my free trailer BITCH!!!
or
I want my free trailer, BITCH!!!
:P

What's this thing called love?

What's this thing called, Love?

974 Sonoran Supposition  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:01:14am

re: #969 sliv_the_eli

Completely agree with you on this. I am no fan of Bush, but Obama was truly working off of his administration's ground work in finding and killing Osama.

975 labman57  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:41:50pm

My God. The White House should have gone into crisis mode -- alert the National Guard, the Red Cross, FEMA. Because a quasi-moderate earthquake which caused no serious casualties and only minor damage clearly calls for Obama's full and undivided attention.

Hey, if Bachmann or Perry is elected POTUS, God will probably give them advanced notice of any impending natural disasters. 

In fact, God would most likely put a hold on all future life-threatening phenomena as a sign that the White House has been divinely blessed by the presence of its Christianity-proselytizing, Bible-thumping occupants.


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