The Republican base has spoken, and they’re very impressed with Rick Perry’s creationism, climate change denial, and extreme religious fundamentalism: Perry Zooms to Front of Pack for 2012 GOP Nomination.
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jaunte Wed, Aug 24, 2011 12:59:36pm |
re: #1 wrenchwench
Perry engulfed him in a vacuole, and has completely digested his ideas and personality.
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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Aug 24, 2011 12:59:39pm |
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funky chicken Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:00:10pm |
Four more years! I don't think Perry has a snowball's chance in hell (or today in Oklahoma, take your pick) of becoming POTUS. He could probably win the GOP nomination, which is a truly sad reflection of the folks who will vote in the primaries.
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:01:04pm |
Its an established fact the Tea Party represents 90% of Americans*
*definition of American is currently under debate
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:01:23pm |
Teabag nation is also probably pretty happy with Perry's pre-New Deal philosophy of the social contract.
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makeitstop Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:02:15pm |
Perry did sign that anti-abortion pledge today.
Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) has just signed the controversial Susan B. Anthony anti-abortion pledge, vowing to nominate strict constructionist judges, “select only pro-life appointees for relevant Cabinet and Executive Branch positions,” push for defunding Planned Parenthood and other taxpayer-supported abortion providers, and to sign a Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act.
It's no wonder he's their new darling - he panders better than the lot of them.
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Gus Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:02:19pm |
re: #5 funky chicken
Four more years! I don't think Perry has a snowball's chance in hell (or today in Oklahoma, take your pick) of becoming POTUS. He could probably win the GOP nomination, which is a truly sad reflection of the folks who will vote in the primaries.
Gut feelings do not always reflect reality. Obama and the Democrats have a lot of hard work ahead of them. This is going to be a long and difficult campaign. It's not over until election day. Nothing, absolutely nothing, should be taken for granted. To do so will only breed to complacency and apathy.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:02:28pm |
Perry is a predatory hypocrite. He has not received this support by disguising that fact, but by appealing to a segment of the population that is composed largely of predatory hypocrites.
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Lidane Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:03:17pm |
re: #10 Gus 802
Obama and the Democrats have a lot of hard work ahead of them. This is going to be a long and difficult campaign. It's not over until election day. Nothing, absolutely nothing, should be taken for granted. To do so will only breed to complacency and apathy.
+1
Agreed completely. Nothing is set in stone until the final votes are counted.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:03:36pm |
shaping up to be a historic referendum...
do you favor a theocratic republic?
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Targetpractice Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:03:57pm |
So, Perry and Romney are commanding 46% of the vote according to Gallup. Looks like Perry/Romney '12 is becoming a greater possibility.
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:05:26pm |
re: #13 albusteve
shaping up to be a historic referendum...
do you favor a theocratic republic?
Does secular humanism count as a theocracy?
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allegro Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:05:37pm |
re: #15 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
So, Perry and Romney are commanding 46% of the vote according to Gallup. Looks like Perry/Romney '12 is becoming a greater possibility.
I don't see either of them willing to be #2.
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Targetpractice Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:05:40pm |
re: #14 prononymous
Poor Huntsman. lol.
Yeah, no shit. Back around the beginning of this year, even before that, his name was being tossed around as a "dream candidate," someone the Right was falling in love with.
Now? He's an also-ran, not even in the same league as Romney.
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Lidane Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:05:40pm |
re: #15 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
So, Perry and Romney are commanding 46% of the vote according to Gallup. Looks like Perry/Romney '12 is becoming a greater possibility.
Only if Mitt's ego will allow him to run as Veep.
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:06:01pm |
Perry:
"And there you have it: the vaunted New Deal did not bring the country out of the Great Depression, but the bigger problem now is that its numerous programs never died, and like a bad disease, they have spread. The impact of the New Deal is staggering not just because of the number of programs but also because of their scope. Certain of these programs massively altered the relationship between Americans and their government with respect to critical aspect of our lives, violently tossing aside any respect for our founding principles of federalism and limited government.
By far the best example of this is Social Security."
[Link: nomoremister.blogspot.com...]
Perry thinks the New Deal, including and especially universal programs like Social Security, are a bad disease.
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funky chicken Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:06:08pm |
re: #10 Gus 802
I'll cop to the apathy. I do live in OK now, which is the land of Inhofe and Coburn.
And apparently endless triple-digit temperatures. Blech.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:06:38pm |
re: #13 albusteve
shaping up to be a historic referendum...
do you favor a theocratic republic?
It would be bad enough if it were run by sincere believers, like Pope Pius V, but with this mob of charlatans and predators in charge, it would be hell on Earth.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:06:47pm |
re: #10 Gus 802
Gut feelings do not always reflect reality. Obama and the Democrats have a lot of hard work ahead of them. This is going to be a long and difficult campaign. It's not over until election day. Nothing, absolutely nothing, should be taken for granted. To do so will only breed to complacency and apathy.
craziest campaign ever
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Targetpractice Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:07:06pm |
re: #19 Lidane
Only if Mitt's ego will allow him to run as Veep.
Mitt's ego may have to take back seat to just having a shot at the White House. Because if he's trailing Perry, going into the convention, then there's no chance they're going to pick him to top the ticket. He'll either have to settle for VP or take a hike.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:07:29pm |
re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Does secular humanism count as a theocracy?
that's up to you amigo
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Gus Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:07:42pm |
re: #21 funky chicken
I'll cop to the apathy. I do live in OK now, which is the land of Inhofe and Coburn.
And apparently endless triple-digit temperatures. Blech.
That must suck all around. I couldn't imagine living in such an environment -- both politically and meteorologically.
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Gus Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:08:27pm |
re: #23 albusteve
craziest campaign ever
Battle of the hair bands: Romney's hair vs. Perry's hair.
//
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wrenchwench Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:08:41pm |
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I wonder whether that's pronounced "ex-poster".
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:10:17pm |
re: #24 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Mitt's ego may have to take back seat to just having a shot at the White House. Because if he's trailing Perry, going into the convention, then there's no chance they're going to pick him to top the ticket. He'll either have to settle for VP or take a hike.
Mitt...not near enough fire and brimstone...
but then there are miracles, right?
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Interesting Times Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:10:20pm |
re: #27 Gus 802
Battle of the hair bands: Romney's hair vs. Perry's hair.
...with enough oil between them to fill the strategic reserves.
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funky chicken Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:11:20pm |
re: #26 Gus 802
It's one hundred and f'ing eight degrees in my less than charming home town right now.
People are still hiring here, however. It would be nice to have more intelligent folks move in to fill some of those jobs.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:11:26pm |
re: #27 Gus 802
Battle of the hair bands: Romney's hair vs. Perry's hair.
//
Perry Hair would make a great bottled water, no?
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engineer cat Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:12:53pm |
re: #15 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
So, Perry and Romney are commanding 46% of the vote according to Gallup. Looks like Perry/Romney '12 is becoming a greater possibility.
unpossible. anti-matter and non-matter would instantly annihilate each other
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elizajane Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:12:55pm |
Unfortunately, this is not the tea party base speaking. The most support-switchers have come from Romney. These are people who are looking for somebody who can beat Obama and have decided that it's Perry, not Romney. They have decided this, I assume, not because they think that Perry will appeal to Independents like Romney could, but because they think he will wage a ruthless, scorched-earth campaign against Obama that will make the swift-boaters look like rank amateurs.
This prospect fills me with dread and despair. Everything I like least about America and its politics could consume the coming year. Not to mention what would happen if they win.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:13:31pm |
re: #22 Shiplord Kirel
It would be bad enough if it were run by sincere believers, like Pope Pius V, but with this mob of charlatans and predators in charge, it would be hell on Earth.
As a member of the Anglican Communion, you'll pardon me for not necessarily thinking there is all that much difference?
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:13:56pm |
thank Neptune for the monsoon...
temp went from 100 to 93 in about 3 min
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:14:15pm |
We can't reform this witches cauldron of a "GOP base" by appealing to their better natures. They don't have any. Call them out on their real agenda, greed and power, vicarious and otherwise. Their prophet of profit, David Barton, has supplied plenty of material all by himself. I think we can also safely ignore their constant yammering about "second amendment solutions." Except for a few kooks who don't get what it is really about, they don't have the guts for such a solution or anything like it. What small business owner or corporate climber is going to risk it all in the name of repealing the minimum wage or abolishing the EPA?
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Targetpractice Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:15:42pm |
re: #34 engineer dog
unpossible. anti-matter and non-matter would instantly annihilate each other
Think McCain/Palin, and it begins to make sense. A pure Tea ticket is DOA, no matter how they spin it. Perry is the textbook definition of a bullshit artist, but even he can't play himself off as solidly on both sides of the political aisle. No, if the GOP wants to stand a real chance of defeating Obama, they're gonna have to jury-rig a "balanced" ticket yet again.
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aagcobb Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:16:28pm |
re: #20 Bulworth
Perry thinks the New Deal, including and especially universal programs like Social Security, are a bad disease.
You have written the Democrats' first attack ad, should Perry be the nominee. I expect that next fall, voters in battleground states will not be able to turn on the television without being reminded of what Perry thinks of social security.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:16:59pm |
re: #35 elizajane
Unfortunately, this is not the tea party base speaking. The most support-switchers have come from Romney. These are people who are looking for somebody who can beat Obama and have decided that it's Perry, not Romney. They have decided this, I assume, not because they think that Perry will appeal to Independents like Romney could, but because they think he will wage a ruthless, scorched-earth campaign against Obama that will make the swift-boaters look like rank amateurs.
This prospect fills me with dread and despair. Everything I like least about America and its politics could consume the coming year. Not to mention what would happen if they win.
well, BO is setting up for a fall right now, I don't care what others think....he's becoming more and more vulnerable as time goes by...it's possible he could be blown out by the Christian Life Givers...have to wait and see if the gen pop conservatives go hypno
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:18:18pm |
Vote Hypnotoad in 2012...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:18:46pm |
Missed this:
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
Donald Trump Warns Libyan Rebels Will Be ‘Richer’ Than Americans If We Don’t Steal Their Oil
what a douche
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aagcobb Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:20:09pm |
re: #39 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Think McCain/Palin, and it begins to make sense. A pure Tea ticket is DOA, no matter how they spin it. Perry is the textbook definition of a bullshit artist, but even he can't play himself off as solidly on both sides of the political aisle. No, if the GOP wants to stand a real chance of defeating Obama, they're gonna have to jury-rig a "balanced" ticket yet again.
I agree. Romney wants to be President so bad, he will run as VP with Perry and take another crack at the Presidency in '16 or '20.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:20:21pm |
re: #43 Sergey Romanov
Missed this:
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
Donald Trump Warns Libyan Rebels Will Be ‘Richer’ Than Americans If We Don’t Steal Their Oil
what a douche
sometimes, on a good day, I want to box with Trump...I'd even spot him a roll of nickles
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funky chicken Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:20:22pm |
re: #40 aagcobb
You have written the Democrats' first
attackad, should Perry be the nominee. I expect that next fall, voters in battleground states will not be able to turn on the television without being reminded of what Perry thinks of social security.
I like that better, because I don't think "attack" is fair. But I certainly hope it would be their first ad.
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engineer cat Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:20:24pm |
perry, i guess, focusses the anti-romney, radical right vote
party primaries, and parties for that matter, are not part of the constitution, and therefore there is no contitutional guarantee that the "will of the electorate" be respected in them
the party establishment clearly wants romney to be the nominee, and now that perry is in the race, the teabag faction knows who it will insist on. this deathmatch, with neither side finding the the other's candidate remotely acceptable, should dominate the next 12 months
the party establishment has ways of arranging a 'majority' vote in the primaries for romney, unless the teabaggers turn out to be so overwhelming that perry cannot be stopped
i've been waiting for the republican party to split into two mutually hostile factions for years. will perry's entry cause it to happen?
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aagcobb Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:22:11pm |
re: #47 engineer dog
I don't know why the establishment would find Perry unacceptable; he is a complete corporate whore.
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funky chicken Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:22:49pm |
re: #35 elizajane
I dunno, but I just can't see how anybody with 2 brain cells to rub together could vote for Rick Perry for POTUS. I hope I'm not overestimating the American electorate.
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aagcobb Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:23:21pm |
re: #49 funky chicken
I dunno, but I just can't see how anybody with 2 brain cells to rub together could vote for Rick Perry for POTUS. I hope I'm not overestimating the American electorate.
They voted for Dubya, didn't they?
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Lidane Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:24:58pm |
re: #50 aagcobb
They voted for Dubya, didn't they?
Twice! AND some of them actually like Sarah Palin and Luap Nor.
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funky chicken Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:26:13pm |
re: #50 aagcobb
Yeah, but look what that got them. I don't think a majority of Americans will forget that so quickly.
And the dems didn't do themselves any favors by nominating John Kerry in 2004.
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Interesting Times Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:26:19pm |
re: #49 funky chicken
I dunno, but I just can't see how anybody with 2 brain cells to rub together could vote for Rick Perry for POTUS. I hope I'm not overestimating the American electorate.
Have you ever browsed People of Walmart?
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Charleston Chew Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:27:44pm |
re: #36 wlewisiii
As a member of the Anglican Communion, you'll pardon me for not necessarily thinking there is all that much difference?
Anglican snaps!
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jaunte Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:27:53pm |
re: #43 Sergey Romanov
Missed this:
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
Donald Trump Warns Libyan Rebels Will Be ‘Richer’ Than Americans If We Don’t Steal Their Oil
what a douche
Taking other people's stuff seems to be Trump's basic business plan.
[Link: www.trippinguptrump.com...]
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:28:32pm |
re: #54 publicityStunted
Have you ever browsed People of Walmart?
hat about people of Walmart?....you use that as a joke?
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aagcobb Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:28:36pm |
re: #53 funky chicken
Yeah, but look what that got them. I don't think a majority of Americans will forget that so quickly.
I desperately hope you are right. I'm glad the President will have a lot of money to tell the American people who the real Perry is, because it looks like the economy is still going to absolutely stink next November.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:31:30pm |
re: #58 aagcobb
I desperately hope you are right. I'm glad the President will have a lot of money to tell the American people who the real Perry is, because it looks like the economy is still going to absolutely stink next November.
he has no choice but to attack....his record sucks
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Charleston Chew Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:31:48pm |
re: #44 aagcobb
I agree. Romney wants to be President so bad, he will run as VP with Perry and take another crack at the Presidency in '16 or '20.
Romney will be 68 or 72 by then. I bet he fights harder than one would expect for the nomination in 2012 simply because time is not on his side.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:32:03pm |
During the Civil War, the slave-owning elites duped the poor white populace into fighting the battle. They did it with a lot of verbiage and emotion about states rights, southern pride, and Yankee materialism, as well as playing off the deeply ingrained bigotry common to all semi-literate populations.
It's occurred to me that today's tea party politicians are the spiritual descendents of those slave-owning elites, trying to induce the poor and ignorant to fight their greed-driven battles. In truth, though, the situations are not the same. If the tea party base is really duped at all, it is not by the superficial ideology of family values or (again) states rights. They have been duped into identifying themselves with the power they see in the hypocrisy and greed of their leaders. It is their way of saying, "yeah, I'm a player too."
If this seems unduly harsh, just remember that it is a standard meme of the tea party and the GOP in general that the opposing base is composed of lunatics, lazy welfare queens, nefarious socialist plotters, libertines, and common criminals.
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funky chicken Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:33:22pm |
re: #58 aagcobb
I think I found this article here on LGF:
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Yeah, written by a lubrul and possibly even a joo, but beyond the tea party lunatics, what exactly is the appeal of Rick Perry? He's basically dubya without the compassion or interest in education.
Like I said, I could be wrong. I hope I'm not.
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Targetpractice Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:34:08pm |
re: #53 funky chicken
Yeah, but look what that got them. I don't think a majority of Americans will forget that so quickly.
And the dems didn't do themselves any favors by nominating John Kerry in 2004.
Funky, they already have. Seriously, why do you think Obama's numbers have dipped in recent months? Bush may still take the blame for this mess, but Obama's taking the blame for not getting us out of it fast enough. Now we got the "Texas Miracle Man" stepping in, saying he can get America back to work overnight by his patented formula of "Low Taxes + Deregulation = Jobs, Jobs, Jobs."
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Charleston Chew Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:34:08pm |
re: #50 aagcobb
They voted for Dubya, didn't they?
Kerry and Gore weren't in the same league as Obama, when it comes to campaigning.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:35:09pm |
I'll not pay much attention to this stuff until it has passed the "flavor of the week" status.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:35:36pm |
re: #62 Shiplord Kirel
During the Civil War, the slave-owning elites duped the poor white populace into fighting the battle. They did it with a lot of verbiage and emotion about states rights, southern pride, and Yankee materialism, as well as playing off the deeply ingrained bigotry common to all semi-literate populations.
It's occurred to me that today's tea party politicians are the spiritual descendents of those slave-owning elites, trying to induce the poor and ignorant to fight their greed-driven battles. In truth, though, the situations are not the same. If the tea party base is really duped at all, it is not by the superficial ideology of family values or (again) states rights. They have been duped into identifying themselves with the power they see in the hypocrisy and greed of their leaders. It is their way of saying, "yeah, I'm a player too."If this seems unduly harsh, just remember that it is a standard meme of the tea party and the GOP in general that the opposing base is composed of lunatics, lazy welfare queens, nefarious socialist plotters, libertines, and common criminals.
not to me...seems like an astute observation, but it works both ways....welfare folks and minorities are expected to vote for the democrat
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funky chicken Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:35:37pm |
re: #62 Shiplord Kirel
Yeah, but a lot of those folks are still counting on getting Social Security and having Medicare once they're retired...and Perry is on the record as opposing those programs, correct?
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Targetpractice Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:37:37pm |
re: #69 funky chicken
Yeah, but a lot of those folks are still counting on getting Social Security and having Medicare once they're retired...and Perry is on the record as opposing those programs, correct?
He's going for the GOP primary votes right now. Come this time next year, he'll be out there making the same old promises, namely "I don't want to dismantle it, I just want to 'reform' it!"
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:38:37pm |
re: #69 funky chicken
Yeah, but a lot of those folks are still counting on getting Social Security and having Medicare once they're retired...and Perry is on the record as opposing those programs, correct?
That's where the ignorance part comes in. They actually believe the market and privatizaton would provide them with a cushier retirement.
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Lidane Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:39:13pm |
re: #65 Charleston Chew
Kerry and Gore weren't in the same league as Obama, when it comes to campaigning.
True. Obama ran circles around the vaunted Clinton machine.
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engineer cat Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:39:41pm |
re: #48 aagcobb
I don't know why the establishment would find Perry unacceptable; he is a complete corporate whore.
according to a now notorious article in politico:
The problem, in shorthand: To many conservative elites, Rick Perry is a dope, Michele Bachmann is a joke and Mitt Romney is a fraud.
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Charleston Chew Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:40:19pm |
re: #62 Shiplord Kirel
It's occurred to me that today's tea party politicians are the spiritual descendents of those slave-owning elites, trying to induce the poor and ignorant to fight their greed-driven battles. In truth, though, the situations are not the same. If the tea party base is really duped at all, it is not by the superficial ideology of family values or (again) states rights. They have been duped into identifying themselves with the power they see in the hypocrisy and greed of their leaders. It is their way of saying, "yeah, I'm a player too."
Worth noting that many in the Tea Party are the literal descendants of the Confederacy, as well.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:40:30pm |
re: #70 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
He's going for the GOP primary votes right now. Come this time next year, he'll be out there making the same old promises, namely "I don't want to dismantle it, I just want to 'reform' it!"
Talking about reforming it is popular. The act of reforming it is political suicide.
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Zathras Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:40:51pm |
The numbers for now look bad for Bachmann, as Perry seems to swallow much of her base, but I wouldn't count her out yet. Watching her disembowel Pawlenty in the debates was scary stuff. Perry has never had to deal with a serious primary opponent. Under her pressure he might as fold as easily as his hair does.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:40:59pm |
re: #72 Lidane
True. Obama ran circles around the vaunted Clinton machine.
the Clinton machine was all about Bubba...it didn't transfer well to his bi...to Hillary Of Zero Charisma
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Lidane Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:41:58pm |
re: #73 engineer dog
according to a now notorious article in politico:
The problem, in shorthand: To many conservative elites, Rick Perry is a dope, Michele Bachmann is a joke and Mitt Romney is a fraud.
And yet, that's the best they've got to choose from right now.
Just imagine what will happen once Caribou Barbie decides to pretend to run for office.
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:44:39pm |
re: #74 Charleston Chew
Worth noting that many in the Tea Party are the literal descendants of the Confederacy, as well.
Blood libel!
//
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:45:42pm |
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Charleston Chew Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:45:57pm |
re: #71 Shiplord Kirel
That's where the ignorance part comes in. They actually believe the market and privatizaton would provide them with a cushier retirement.
Privatization of SS only looked good to people during a booming stock market (aka the Clinton years). A lot of people who would have been for it then sobered up when they watched their mutual fund investments take a tumble in recent years.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:46:28pm |
[Link: www.thisislondon.co.uk...]
The rebels will be led by special forces from Gulf nations, such as Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, which spearheaded yesterday's final assault on the dictator's Bab al-Aziziya compound.
It is known that the Qataris were first into Colonel Gaddafi's private residence in the complex, to look for computers and sensitive documents. The Gulf states have offered their forces because, in the words of one of their officers, "this is an Arab matter and it is right that Arab allies should come to the aid of the Libyans."
Hmm.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:46:42pm |
re: #78 Lidane
I still think Chris Christie's gona run.
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Atlas Fails Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:47:36pm |
re: #54 publicityStunted
Have you ever browsed People of Walmart?
So that's what FoxNation commenters look like!
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Lidane Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:47:54pm |
re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I still think Chris Christie's gona run.
As soon as he does, Gaffney, Geller and Spencer will be pulling the "STEALTH JIHADIST ZOMG" card. It will be hilarious.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:48:46pm |
re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I still think Chris Christie's gona run.
another opportunist?...he's stated flat out he will not run...be nice if someone would fulfill their obligations, before they get a Fed Boner
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:48:46pm |
“Rixos crisis ends. All journalists are out!,” Matthew Chance, a CNN correspondent, tweeted as he and the others were allowed to depart the hotel with the aid of Red Cross workers who took them away. The journalists had been held captive there since the weekend, when rebel forces first invaded Tripoli in what has proved to be a decisive turn in the six-month-old conflict.
Mr. Chance said after the release that the loyalists, having realized that their leader’s grip on power had dissolved, “essentially just capitulated.”
The elation at the Rixos news was tempered later in the day, however, with word that four Italian journalists had been abducted outside of Tripoli and their driver killed. Italian consular officials said they had been in contact with the journalists, who were being held by Qaddafi loyalists at an unspecified location inside the Libyan capital.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:50:03pm |
re: #87 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
4 Italian journalists have been kidnapped.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:50:30pm |
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leftynyc Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:51:05pm |
re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I still think Chris Christie's gona run.
I don't think so. Maybe in '16. He knows the optics of an out of shape (being kind here) versus an athletic man who moves well are not in his favor. I'll be looking for him starting to get into shape, losing weight and getting ready for the next contest.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:51:27pm |
re: #84 Atlas Fails
So that's what FoxNation commenters look like!
belittle people for the way they look and where they shop?....you suck
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:51:49pm |
Dead man running...
As a £1 million bounty was placed on Gaddafi’s head, soldiers from 22 SAS Regiment began guiding rebel soldiers after being ordered in by David Cameron.For the first time, defence sources have confirmed that the SAS has been in Libya for several weeks, and played a key role in co-ordinating the fall of Tripoli.
With the majority of the capital now in rebel hands, the SAS soldiers, who have been dressed in Arab civilian clothing and carrying the same weapons as the rebels, have been ordered to switch their focus to the search for Gaddafi, who has been on the run since his fortified headquarters was captured on Tuesday.
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RadicalModerate Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:52:37pm |
Well, who didn't see this coming?
Welfare drug-testing yields 2 percent positive results
TALLAHASSEE --
Since the state began testing welfare applicants for drugs in July, about 2 percent have tested positive, preliminary data shows.
Ninety-six percent proved to be drug free -- leaving the state on the hook to reimburse the cost of their tests.
Net savings to the state: $3,400 to $5,000 annually on one month’s worth of rejected applicants. Over 12 months, the money saved on all rejected applicants would add up to $40,800 to $60,000 for a program that state analysts have predicted will cost $178 million this fiscal year.
Of course, it also bears mentioning that Rick Scott's family members have financial interest in several of the drug-testing facilities involved.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:53:13pm |
re: #93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I wonder what other foreigners took part. The report I cited above says Qataris and Emirates people. Any news about other Western guys?
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RogueOne Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:53:37pm |
I think a Perry nomination might end up being a good thing. I think the repubs are going to hold the house and I would almost give them 2-1 odds on taking the Senate. Obama can beat Perry but, unless there's dramatic improvement in the economy, he can't beat Romney. I'd prefer not to have one party control all 3 branches, that hasn't worked well.
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:54:16pm |
re: #95 Sergey Romanov
I wonder what other foreigners took part. The report I cited above says Qataris and Emirates people. Any news about other Western guys?
Got to figure the SAS guys were helping with target designations and coordinating air strikes to assist rebel operations.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:54:22pm |
re: #91 leftynyc
Honestly? I'd like to have a President who's not afraid to be an asshole.
He'd be a one termer for sure; doesn't give a damn what polls say.
Either that or he's played me like a fiddle.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:54:57pm |
re: #93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Dead man running...
he's on the tunnels, moving around...blow them and he'll either die or pop out of a hidy hole
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RogueOne Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:56:35pm |
re: #98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Honestly? I'd like to have a President who's not afraid to be an asshole.
He'd be a one termer for sure; doesn't give a damn what polls say.
Either that or he's played me like a fiddle.
I think he'd win in a landslide but the way he talks he doesn't seem to want it, at least not right now.
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:57:00pm |
re: #94 RadicalModerate
Well, who didn't see this coming?
Welfare drug-testing yields 2 percent positive results
Of course, it also bears mentioning that Rick Scott's family members have financial interest in several of the drug-testing facilities involved.
So this little stunt failed. I'm sure they will now come up with some even more ridiculous and humiliating exercise for recipients to perform, just to pacify the vindicative.
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:58:24pm |
re: #99 albusteve
he's on the tunnels, moving around...blow them and he'll either die or pop out of a hidy hole
Got to figure some of those loyalists might be thinking a million pound bounty would be a nice retirement plan right about now.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:58:26pm |
Perry has not yet been well vetted by the MSM in the context of the national stage. "Aw it's Texas" ain't gonna be an excuse for him. Replace generic republican with Rick Perry in a poll. Then lets see how he looks. If the economy was anything but awful, he'd have no chance. But it is awful.
Just wait till ya see the internecine fight on Fox whilst MSNBC hammers away. Popcorn time.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:58:41pm |
re: #94 RadicalModerate
Well, who didn't see this coming?
Welfare drug-testing yields 2 percent positive results
Of course, it also bears mentioning that Rick Scott's family members have financial interest in several of the drug-testing facilities involved.
Victory!!! The undeserving poor have had to stop doing drugs!!
///
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:00:41pm |
re: #102 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Got to figure some of those loyalists might be thinking a million pound bounty would be a nice retirement plan right about now.
it's up to $2m US now...according to the MSM....Hussein was a cool $25m....you'd think that any exit out of the country is covered...he'll turn up
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:01:56pm |
Hokey, but cute video of a father and son on the trail of a Sasquatch. What is really great about this video is THE DOG. It is the same breed I have.
Mine aren't nearly as well groomed.
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Atlas Fails Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:03:12pm |
re: #92 albusteve
belittle people for the way they look and where they shop?...you suck
Perhaps you missed the drunken leprechaun.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:06:15pm |
re: #107 Atlas Fails
Perhaps you missed the drunken leprechaun.
I don't open those links...perhaps you missed the common decency...know this, every time you attack people for being themselves, I'll attack you...there is no excuse
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:06:47pm |
re: #104 SanFranciscoZionist
Victory!!! The undeserving poor have had to stop doing drugs!!
///
Rick Scott for President! Drug tests for all recipients of government "welfare" nationwide!!
//
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:06:57pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:07:54pm |
re: #94 RadicalModerate
Well, who didn't see this coming?
Welfare drug-testing yields 2 percent positive results
Of course, it also bears mentioning that Rick Scott's family members have financial interest in several of the drug-testing facilities involved.
Well, we now have documented proof that drug-use is not the reason welfare receipients in this state are poor.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:08:56pm |
re: #107 Atlas Fails
I don't like those pictures. Freakin' St. Patty's Day. A boy can't dress fancy and buy some Natty Light?
A gazillion people shop at Walmart. Some are going to look crazy or dress funny.
I don't think it's a funny website. The internet has made people mean.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:09:00pm |
re: #99 albusteve
he's on the tunnels, moving around...blow them and he'll either die or pop out of a hidy hole
I think he's walking around the streets in an iridescent purple pantsuit disguised as a crazy old lady.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:10:17pm |
re: #112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The internet has made people mean.
Because it needs repeating
My theory,, the anonimity
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:10:39pm |
re: #111 ggt
I agree. Honestly? I'm kinda surprised with the low incidence. Good for them.
If I were poor? I'd be a meth-addicted, alcoholic, crack-smoking fiend.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:10:49pm |
re: #93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Dead man running...
History comes full circle. The very first operation by the SAS was in Libya, an attack against Axis airfields at Gazala and Timimi on the night 16/17 November 1941
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:11:48pm |
re: #115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If I were poor?
I'm not
I'd be a meth-addicted, alcoholic, crack-smoking fiend.
And I am!!
//
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:11:51pm |
Rabbi blames quake on homosexuals
Rabbi Yehuda Levin, an ally of the National Organization for Marriage who last month blamed the murder of an 8-year-old Brooklyn boy on the passage of marriage equality in NY, has posted a new video in which he claims yesterday's earthquake on the east coast was because God is angry about homosexuality.
Says Levin: "We saw today an earthquake. The Jerusalem Talmud tells us that one of the reasons that God brings earthquakes to the world is because of the transgressions of homosexuality. The Talmud states, 'You have shaken your male member in a place where it doesn't belong. I too, will shake the earth.'"
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:12:07pm |
re: #113 Killgore Trout
I think he's walking around the streets in an iridescent purple pantsuit disguised as a crazy old lady.
well he is!...Princess, formally known as Mo the Butcher...
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:12:20pm |
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RogueOne Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:12:33pm |
re: #112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I don't like those pictures. Freakin' St. Patty's Day. A boy can't dress fancy and buy some Natty Light?
A gazillion people shop at Walmart. Some are going to look crazy or dress funny.
I don't think it's a funny website. The internet has made people mean.
I was mean a long time before the internet. I don't make fun of people for where they shop but what they wear when they shop. Do some of these people not have a damn mirror in their house?
1. If you weigh 300lbs don't wear freaking hot pants.
2. Wear a damn belt and some underwear, no one wants to see your nasty plumbers crack
3. At least pretend like you care how you look. Wearing pj's and slippers to go to the bank? You should be charged extra.
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Atlas Fails Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:12:43pm |
re: #108 albusteve
I don't open those links...perhaps you missed the common decency...know this, every time you attack people for being themselves, I'll attack you...there is no excuse
Hey, if you want to pimp out your ride or take D&D to a whole new level, more power to ya. Just don't complain when pictures end up on the internet.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:12:43pm |
re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Alouette has a page on that.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:12:50pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:13:07pm |
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:13:17pm |
re: #114 sattv4u2
The internet has made people mean.
Because it needs repeating
My theory,, the anonimity
NO ONE GIVE A RAT'S ASS WHAT YOU THINK, ASSHOLE!
/you mean like that?
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:13:57pm |
re: #127 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
NO ONE GIVE A RAT'S ASS WHAT YOU THINK, ASSHOLE!
/you mean like that?
For a moment there, I thought my wife was talking to me!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:14:26pm |
re: #115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I agree. Honestly? I'm kinda surprised with the low incidence. Good for them.
If I were poor? I'd be a meth-addicted, alcoholic, crack-smoking fiend.
Actually, I'm not sure of the accuracy. I mean one welfare receipient technically can represent a whole family.
And, if I knew I was going to be tested, I'd get clean for the testing or not be tested.
But, yeah, it's a lower than I'd have thought too.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:15:15pm |
re: #123 Atlas Fails
I've been a person of walmart! Sometimes, you just need something at 2am, and the Wal-mart is open :D
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:15:24pm |
re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Really? WTF?
How different is this country from some of the others we hear about. Superstition and tribal culture?????
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:15:35pm |
re: #123 Atlas Fails
Hey, if you want to pimp out your ride or take D&D to a whole new level, more power to ya. Just don't complain when pictures end up on the internet.
I don't give a shit about the pics...you still suck, even more now...
why don't you post your own pic so people can mock you?....everybody has their dignity but you persist in robbing them of even that...fuck off
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:15:35pm |
re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I myself am an ally of the National Let's Shove Yehuda Levin Off A Cliff movement.
(We're a new organization.)
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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:15:38pm |
re: #114 sattv4u2
The internet has made people mean.
Because it needs repeating
My theory,, the anonimity
This says it all:
Image: 14oct9-theory-of-internet-douchebaggery.jpg
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:16:32pm |
re: #134 talon_262
the comic is even better :D [Link: www.penny-arcade.com...]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:16:32pm |
re: #133 SanFranciscoZionist
If there is a God, there's no need for your org. /
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:16:34pm |
WTF?
German Police Probe Puzzling Kidnap Attempt
A homemade grenade, a telephone booth, and 113 fire extinguishers were found in a Hamburg apartment during an investigation into a suspected kidnapping, say German police.
Officers remained on the scene Wednesday, five days after the alleged victim — a 26-year-old Israeli woman — escaped.
Police said a 30-year old German man forced the woman — an acquaintance, but not a close friend — to go to his mezzanine apartment at gunpoint last Friday evening. She escaped around three hours later by jumping out of the window, over which the suspect had stretched barbed wire.
Neighbors called police, and the man was arrested. Police said he was armed with a gun and a hand-grenade filled with a homemade explosive substance.
Over the following days, police found a telephone booth in the apartment, which was taken away Tuesday, along with 113 fire extinguishers, most of them in the cellar — nine with traces of the homemade explosive on their exterior.
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:16:35pm |
re: #133 SanFranciscoZionist
I myself am an ally of the National Let's Shove Yehuda Levin Off A Cliff movement.
(We're a new organization.)
Orthodox or reformed?
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wrenchwench Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:16:50pm |
Whew. Just had a 45 minute power outage, and I didn't even lose the Page I was working on (except for the tags, but they were minimal).
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:17:21pm |
re: #130 WindUpBird
I've been a person of walmart! Sometimes, you just need something at 2am, and the Wal-mart is open :D
Yeah ,,, but you really REALLY should put SOME clothes on before you leave the house
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:17:25pm |
re: #126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Steve? You called me out once for the same type of thing.
Thanks.
I don't recall...but let's have a heart and show some compassion for folks
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funky chicken Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:17:26pm |
re: #132 albusteve
dude, you're coming on a bit strong here
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RogueOne Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:17:47pm |
re: #136 Sergey Romanov
If there is a God, there's no need for your org. /
God helps he who helps himself....Can't be too careful.
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Atlas Fails Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:18:05pm |
re: #112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I don't like those pictures. Freakin' St. Patty's Day. A boy can't dress fancy and buy some Natty Light?
A gazillion people shop at Walmart. Some are going to look crazy or dress funny.
I don't think it's a funny website. The internet has made people mean.
BTW, count me as one of the gazillion people who sometimes shop at Walmart. I just think a few of the people who shop there are a few fries short of a Happy Meal.
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laZardo Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:18:25pm |
So me and mom applied for food stamps earlier and I come back to this and now I feel extra sad. :C
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:18:29pm |
re: #134 talon_262
This says it all:
Image: 14oct9-theory-of-internet-douchebaggery.jpg
Zactically
PLUS ,,, it leads to a heavy dose of bravado
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:18:43pm |
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:18:57pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:18:59pm |
re: #145 laZardo
No luck with a job?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:19:12pm |
The govt just got a half a billion from the googler boys.
WOO HOO! National debt reduced!
/
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:19:53pm |
re: #150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The govt just got a half a billion from the googler boys.
WOO HOO! National debt reduced!
/
Does it make you wanna cry ... from joy?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:20:02pm |
re: #145 laZardo
You in the States? WherethehellhaveIbeen?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:20:41pm |
[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]
An Indiana woman has been sentenced to 13 years behind bars after she allowed her boyfriend to torture her 3-year-old son by using pliers to pull his teeth.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:20:45pm |
re: #152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You in the States? WherethehellhaveIbeen?
Complaining about the last Crown Plaza you stayed in!!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:20:46pm |
re: #140 sattv4u2
Yeah ,,, but you really REALLY should put SOME clothes on before you leave the house
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laZardo Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:21:17pm |
re: #149 Sergey Romanov
No luck with a job?
Mom's got part-time and I've got a temp (to be upgraded if I perform well) at Safeway. Obviously, $8.75 each isn't exactly much.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:21:59pm |
re: #144 Atlas Fails
BTW, count me as one of the gazillion people who sometimes shop at Walmart. I just think a few of the people who shop there are a few fries short of a Happy Meal.
too bad you need to look at it that way...your an elitist that judges people by where they shop and what they look like...is that fair?
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wrenchwench Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:22:33pm |
re: #145 laZardo
So me and mom applied for food stamps earlier and I come back to this and now I feel extra sad. :C
Neither Rick Perry nor food stamps are worth feeling sad over.
Enjoy your EBT card (Eat Better Today).
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:23:08pm |
There is a Ronvolution in Facebook.
Really?
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funky chicken Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:23:13pm |
re: #154 Sergey Romanov
[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]
An Indiana woman has been sentenced to 13 years behind bars after she allowed her boyfriend to torture her 3-year-old son by using pliers to pull his teeth.
Jeez. Not gonna click, but I'd put money on meth use.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:23:30pm |
re: #157 laZardo
Best of luck, pal.
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laZardo Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:23:46pm |
re: #159 wrenchwench
It's not the food stamps, it's the fact that it looks like Perry's going to win, and that could result in the EBT being more temporary than the job.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:24:14pm |
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laZardo Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:24:34pm |
re: #159 wrenchwench
Neither Rick Perry nor food stamps are worth feeling sad over.
Enjoy your EBT card (Eat Better Today).
Oh (you mean) SNAP.
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RogueOne Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:25:27pm |
Ruling bans sale of medical marijuana in Michigan
[Link: www.southbendtribune.com...]
Local prosecutors lauded a Michigan appeals court decision today ruling that medical marijuana cannot be sold through private shops, essentially banning all sales of pot and the businesses trying to make a profit from it.The three-judge panel ruled on a case from Isabella County, where medical marijuana cardholders sold pot to each other through a dispensary called Compassionate Apothecary in Mount Pleasant. The court ruled that dispensaries violate the state's public health code of not allowing for such places, as well as the 2008 medical marijuana law passed by the voters.
Only cardholders or their registered primary caregiver will be allowed to grow marijuana. The court held that the law allowed for delivery and transfer of marijuana, but not the sale of it.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:26:01pm |
Sheesh! Just saw that Lubbock has raised its water meter charge to $30 a month. That is the minimum you have to pay for water service. It was $7.50 just ten years ago. Increases in volume rates and yet another meter rate increase are planned for next year and again in 2014. This all has to do with the incredibly ill-advised Lake Alan Henry project. This was supposed to ensure Lubbock's future water supply but it has been a long-running saga of delays and overruns. The worst problem is that the lake is 1000 feet lower in elevation than the city, not to mention being 65 miles away. This means they will have to pump roughly 25,000 tons of water uphill that far every day. It is equivalent to raising an aircraft carrier to the top of the Empire State Building on a daily basis.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:26:16pm |
re: #166 RogueOne
Ruling bans sale of medical marijuana in Michigan
[Link: www.southbendtribune.com...]
Bartering?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:26:27pm |
re: #136 Sergey Romanov
If there is a God, there's no need for your org. /
As my mother always tells me, God has no hands but ours.
Want Yehuda Levin shoved? Gonna have to do the shoving.
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Atlas Fails Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:26:40pm |
re: #158 albusteve
too bad you need to look at it that way...your an elitist that judges people by where they shop and what they look like...is that fair?
Again, I SHOP AT WALMART. My dad grew up in a trailer. My family rotated crappy apartments for the first few years of my life. If linking to weird pictures of people who shop half-naked or put recliners on their motorcycles makes me elitist, then elitism ain't what it used to be.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:26:49pm |
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funky chicken Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:27:09pm |
re: #157 laZardo
Mom's got part-time and I've got a temp (to be upgraded if I perform well) at Safeway. Obviously, $8.75 each isn't exactly much.
Hey, Safeway. We don't have those here in OK. No national grocery chains at all, but Whole Foods is opening this fall. I submitted an application, but haven't heard anything yet.
You can fill out Whole Foods applications online, and now you can say you have grocery store experience...if there's a Whole Foods in your area, of course.
Good luck getting on full time.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:27:15pm |
re: #138 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Orthodox or reformed?
We're post-denominational. But we don't shove on Shabbat, out of deference to the more frum among us.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:27:16pm |
re: #169 SanFranciscoZionist
LOL, well, let's shove him out of that closet then.
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:27:16pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:27:32pm |
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RogueOne Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:27:33pm |
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RogueOne Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:28:26pm |
re: #171 Atlas Fails
Again, I SHOP AT WALMART. My dad grew up in trailer. My family rotated crappy apartments for the first few years of my life. If linking to weird pictures of people who shop half-naked or put recliners on their motorcycles makes me elitist, then elitism ain't what it used to be.
If you look like you don't give a shit how you look when you go out in public, you're asking for it.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:28:34pm |
re: #178 RogueOne
Brilliant idea but they'll probably still arrest you for it.
Eliot Ness and the IRS angle -huh?
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:28:41pm |
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:28:43pm |
re: #171 Atlas Fails
Again, I SHOP AT WALMART. My dad grew up in trailer. My family rotated crappy apartments for the first few years of my life. If linking to weird pictures of people who shop half-naked or put recliners on their motorcycles makes me elitist, then elitism ain't what it used to be.
then you are one very mixed up person
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:28:55pm |
re: #144 Atlas Fails
BTW, count me as one of the gazillion people who sometimes shop at Walmart. I just think a few of the people who shop there are a few fries short of a Happy Meal.
Went to Target with my BFF and my husband the other day. As we walk in, one of the employees is talking to another employee about something, but I don't focus in on him.
Some distance into the store, BFF tells me, "You know, that guy at the front was talking about how he's been using a sniper rifle that he found...and it took me a moment to realize he was talking about a game."
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:30:02pm |
re: #183 SanFranciscoZionist
Went to Target with my BFF and my husband the other day. As we walk in, one of the employees is talking to another employee about something, but I don't focus in on him.
Some distance into the store, BFF tells me, "You know, that guy at the front was talking about how he's been using a sniper rifle that he found...and it took me a moment to realize he was talking about a game."
I have that same problem with the late night thread here at LGF. I never know if they are talking about a game or current events. . .
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:31:00pm |
re: #179 RogueOne
If you look like you don't give a shit how you look when you go out in public, you're asking for it.
not in NM...nobody gives a damn who you are or what you look like, you will treated with friendly respect...don't believe it?
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:31:09pm |
Loyalists at Rixos handed their guns over to the reporters and apologized.
Crisis ended when #rixos gunmen realised that #Libya outside of hotel doors was no longer Libya of old. Handed us their guns & said "sorry."
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:31:16pm |
re: #154 Sergey Romanov
[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]
An Indiana woman has been sentenced to 13 years behind bars after she allowed her boyfriend to torture her 3-year-old son by using pliers to pull his teeth.
Hell's bells.
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:31:30pm |
re: #184 ggt
I have that same problem with the late night thread here at LGF. I never know if they are talking about a game or current events. . .
Yes.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:32:12pm |
re: #158 albusteve
too bad you need to look at it that way...your an elitist that judges people by where they shop and what they look like...is that fair?
I'm not sure that with people of Wal-Mart it's so much judgement as awe...
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:32:23pm |
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:33:06pm |
re: #189 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm not sure that with people of Wal-Mart it's so much judgement as awe...
awe?...you need to get out more
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funky chicken Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:34:03pm |
re: #167 Shiplord Kirel
Another Texas miracle! If y'all want water, then dammit, y'all should have to pay for it!
//
Not sarcastic now--surely the folks at Texas Tech could have come up with a better-engineered water project than that?
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:34:49pm |
re: #190 oaktree
Life is a game, but you were only issued one quarter.
Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, Start
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:34:56pm |
re: #190 oaktree
Life is a game, but you were only issued one quarter.
You haven't played the game for awhile, huh!!
A quarter used to get three plays.,,, it doesn't get one anymore
/
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:35:17pm |
re: #192 funky chicken
Another Texas miracle! If y'all want water, then dammit, y'all should have to pay for it!
//
Not sarcastic now--surely the folks at Texas Tech could have come up with a better-engineered water project than that?
Contract the Martians to deliver a block of ice from space?
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:35:41pm |
re: #193 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, Start
You writing a sex instruction manual?
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:36:18pm |
re: #193 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, Start
They call that a God code for a reason.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:36:20pm |
re: #195 funky chicken
maybe a blind nudist colony...
I could go for that concept
Reach out and touch someone!
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:36:23pm |
re: #193 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, Start
it's a hand/eye contact thing
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Kragar Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:36:28pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:36:41pm |
re: #166 RogueOne
Ruling bans sale of medical marijuana in Michigan
[Link: www.southbendtribune.com...]
Not surprising. Selling it means paying income tax and the Feds still consider it a crime. We have the same problem with the weed laws in Oregon. California dispensaries are still being raided. What a mess.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:37:37pm |
re: #202 Killgore Trout
Not surprising. Selling it means paying income tax and the Feds still consider it a crime. We have the same problem with the weed laws in Oregon. California dispensaries are still being raided. What a mess.
so...we have a pie...
who gets what?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:38:11pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:38:48pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:39:03pm |
It's weed season here in Portland. Fat Lesbian neighbor got her delivery of live plants just a few days ago. Two 8 foot tall monsters with purplish buds and 4-5 smaller 5 footers with white buds (white widow or AK47). Let's hope she brings them in before somebody steals them again.
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Targetpractice Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:39:39pm |
re: #193 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, Start
Using the Konami Code? That's a paddlin'.
/
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:39:47pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:39:47pm |
Racial Gap In Homeownership Widens In U.S. Slump
Price George's is one of the few counties that became wealthier as they became more black. Many black residents came here from Washington, D.C., in the 1980s and '90s, when the capital was poorer and more dangerous. In more recent years, as D.C. has whitened at a faster clip, some say poorer blacks have been pushed into Prince George's, creating tensions with its more affluent, longtime residents.
The county was also targeted heavily by subprime lenders — more so than any other county in Maryland, according to state housing data. More mortgage fraud cases have resulted in convictions here than in any other county in Maryland, according to the State's Attorney's Office for Prince George's County. A special mortgage fraud office was set up here several years ago because of concerns about the high number of subprime mortgages being pushed in the county.
One fraud scheme, which involved a black couple convincing people they could help them stay in their homes, only to run off with their money, was so egregious it entered local folklore. It is widely regarded as one of the biggest mortgage fraud scams in the region's history.
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RogueOne Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:39:55pm |
re: #202 Killgore Trout
Not surprising. Selling it means paying income tax and the Feds still consider it a crime. We have the same problem with the weed laws in Oregon. California dispensaries are still being raided. What a mess.
It's a pretty convoluted argument. I wonder how they came to the conclusion that the state wanted people to have access to medical marijuana but they didn't want people to be able to actually buy it. What other meds are they expecting people to make in their backyards?
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wrenchwench Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:41:06pm |
re: #202 Killgore Trout
Not surprising. Selling it means paying income tax and the Feds still consider it a crime. We have the same problem with the weed laws in Oregon. California dispensaries are still being raided. What a mess.
I wonder how big of a mess it will become before they decide something has to happen at the federal level. I'm seeing more articles lately that claim the US government is complicit with the Mexican cartels (and government) and that's why nothing is changing.
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RogueOne Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:41:09pm |
re: #206 Killgore Trout
It's weed season here in Portland. Fat Lesbian neighbor got her delivery of live plants just a few days ago. Two 8 foot tall monsters with purplish buds and 4-5 smaller 5 footers with white buds (white widow or AK47). Let's hope she brings them in before somebody steals them again.
If someone delivered 2 purple bud monsters to my doorstep the next knock would be the SWAT team.
(I used the pencil to fix a typo. Brilliant Idea)
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:41:40pm |
re: #210 RogueOne
It's a pretty convoluted argument. I wonder how they came to the conclusion that the state wanted people to have access to medical marijuana but they didn't want people to be able to actually buy it. What other meds are they expecting people to make in their backyards?
I think the lawyers and insurance companies weren't given their kick-backs . . .
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:42:01pm |
re: #192 funky chicken
Another Texas miracle! If y'all want water, then dammit, y'all should have to pay for it!
//
Not sarcastic now--surely the folks at Texas Tech could have come up with a better-engineered water project than that?
Actually they did, several of them in fact. One proposal was to build a new lake upstream from the city on the same watercourse, so the water would flow downhill. There are two lakes within the city that are so built but they are too polluted to be part of the general municipal supply. There have been many allegations that the financial interest of key members of the selection committee played a big role. The lake is named for then-mayor Alan Henry and the dam is named for councilman John Montford, both of whom are still alive and active more than 20 years after their names were bestowed.
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wrenchwench Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:42:19pm |
re: #206 Killgore Trout
It's weed season here in Portland. Fat Lesbian neighbor got her delivery of live plants just a few days ago. Two 8 foot tall monsters with purplish buds and 4-5 smaller 5 footers with white buds (white widow or AK47). Let's hope she brings them in before somebody steals them again.
*jaw hits desk*
They deliver live plants and they stay outside for more than one second???
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:43:20pm |
re: #212 RogueOne
If someone delivered 2 puple bud monsters to my doorstep the next knock would be the SWAT team.
Here in Portland it's pretty common. I know of about 8 people growing their own within a block or two of me. The backyards are full of the stuff this time of year.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:44:22pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:45:31pm |
re: #208 oaktree
Tell FBV that you only want 80% and that sattv4u2 is after his piece.
Trust me,
I do NOT want a piece of FBV!!
NTTAWWT!!!
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:46:36pm |
re: #215 wrenchwench
*jaw hits desk*
They deliver live plants and they stay outside for more than one second???
She keeps them in the back yard but I can smell the skunk when the wind shifts. It's probably $8-10,000 worth of weed. It's pretty risky but there's so much weed in other backyards. Thefts happen but really aren't that common. Her's are more at risk because they're full grown potted plants. very easy to walk away with.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:47:49pm |
Think I'll go do something other than this for awhile!
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krypto Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:08:29pm |
It seems more than a little weird for the "Party of Lincoln" to have a likely candidate who spoke favorably of having his state secede from the Union.
But things have changed so completely with the Republican party since Lincoln's time that if Lincoln lived now, Republicans would denounce him as a RINO.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:21:18pm |
re: #222 krypto
It seems more than a little weird for the "Party of Lincoln" to have a likely candidate who spoke favorably of having his state secede from the Union.
But things have changed so completely with the Republican party since Lincoln's time that if Lincoln lived now, Republicans would denounce him as a RINO.
Not for a gang of social retards who think history, any kind of education, really, is for the f&gs.
It's also funny how we Blacks are supposed to pay attention to the party of lincoln part, yet ignore what they're doing currently, and what they will tell us directly to our faces. Today's GOP would have Lincoln strung up with hemp.
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Dewd Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:56:24pm |
Maybe Republicans are impressed with the economic success of Texas while the majority of states are losing jobs. "It's the economy stupid". Also I am a conservative but also an athiest. Whether a politician is Christian, Muslim or Jewish etc. does not scare me. I think a majority of conservatives feel this way, is seems to be those who are of a more liberal frame of mind who are afraid of someones religeous beliefs.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:59:28pm |
re: #224 Dewd
Maybe Republicans are impressed with the economic success of Texas while the majority of states are losing jobs. "It's the economy stupid". Also I am a conservative but also an athiest. Whether a politician is Christian, Muslim or Jewish etc. does not scare me. I think a majority of conservatives feel this way, is seems to be those who are of a more liberal frame of mind who are afraid of someones religeous beliefs.
For example?
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Dewd Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:15:25pm |
I am not disbuting the fact that many liberals are religious but they seem to be overly anxious about someone elses beliefs. An example would be most of the people who comment at LGF. I have been reading LGF for many years now and it has gone from an informative and sometimes humerous site to a Christian bashing site in the last few years. Like I said what are you afraid of.
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freetoken Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:19:56pm |
re: #227 Dewd
... to a Christian bashing site in the last few years.
Oh... foo.
What gets "bashed" around here is American Fundamentalism because, well, it should be bashed. In this sense it's not much different than when Islamic Fundamentalists were bashed around here.
LGF comments are populated by many rationalists and skeptics (real ones, not the faux-skeptics so prevalent in AGW denialism.)
Magical thinking gets grilled around here, no matter from whom it originates.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:20:04pm |
re: #227 Dewd
So you've been reading here for years, but you just opened an account today to come to a dead thread and complain about the subject matter of the posts? If you have some other subject you'd prefer, then use the Pages to make your own post and stop whining.
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Obdicut Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:41:55pm |
re: #227 Dewd
That must be why when Lazardo goes on an anti-clerical rant people tell him he's wrong, that most Christians are perfectly content to let their religious and political sides be separate.
It's only those who want to govern by religion that are a problem.
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Dewd Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:58:14pm |
My main point is that Perry's appeal is economics not that he is a
christian. The overwheming concern of a majority of Americans right now is the economy, not global warming, healthcare or Roe v Wade. Just keeping your head above water financially is the priority.
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jaunte Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:02:36pm |
re: #231 Dewd
Texas gets $200 billion a year in federal spending, and more of the jobs Perry talks about were created by government in 2008-2010, rather than the private sector. He can't really duplicate conditions in Texas on a national level.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:05:44pm |
re: #227 Dewd
I am not disbuting the fact that many liberals are religious but they seem to be overly anxious about someone elses beliefs.
What a stupid comment.
In liberal Christianity tends away from the bible-banging of conservative Christian-supremacist Evangelicalism, for instance.
When con Christians hide behind their "beliefs" to curtail the rights of everyone else, or insist that the government was made by and for them only, then yes, the "beliefs" are a problem. On their own merits, nobody cares about their stupid "beliefs".
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:07:04pm |
re: #231 Dewd
My main point is that Perry's appeal is economics not that he is a
christian. The overwheming concern of a majority of Americans right now is the economy, not global warming, healthcare or Roe v Wade.
Right, that's why 20 thousand dumb bigots turned out for that overgrown prayer meeting of his, the economy.
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bratwurst Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:22:33pm |
re: #231 Dewd
My main point is that Perry's appeal is economics not that he is a
christian. The overwheming concern of a majority of Americans right now is the economy, not global warming, healthcare or Roe v Wade. Just keeping your head above water financially is the priority.
And with the most minimum wage jobs in the nation, "keeping your head above water" is all a large number of people in Texas can dream of!
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