Michele Bachmann (R-Mars): God Sent Hurricane Irene to Tell Us to Cut Spending

Good grief
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I’ve never seen such a crop of loud, obnoxious God-botherers as the GOP candidates for President. The religious right hasn’t just made a resurgence — they’ve staged a takeover.

Now Michele “Crazy Eyes” Bachmann is telling her audience that hurricanes and earthquakes are messages from on high, God’s endearing way of commanding Americans to vote for her so she can cut spending on FEMA and the National Weather Service.

“I don’t know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We’ve had an earthquake; we’ve had a hurricane. He said, ‘Are you going to start listening to me here?’ Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we’ve got to rein in the spending.”

This election will go down in history as the Year of Right Wing Magical Thinking.

UPDATE at 8/29/11 9:35:26 am

And now Bachmann says it was just a joke. Pay no attention to all the other evidence of her extreme religious fanaticism — she was only kidding!

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377 comments
1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:29:52am

God's got to be getting tired of all this nonsense.

2 Four More Tears  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:30:04am

Cut her some slack! She was only joking!!!

[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

3 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:31:00am

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

God's got to be getting tired of all this nonsense.

I'm not one to speak for God, but I'd imagine He would say something along the lines of, "Stop speaking for Me. I have a voice, if I have something to say, I can say it for myself. Otherwise, read what I've already said and learn from it, you ignoramuses."

4 What, me worry?  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:32:52am

re: #2 JasonA

Cut her some slack! She was only joking!!!

[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

It's quite humorous actually. Her handlers keep rushing behind her to clean up her mess.

On the other hand, maybe if this presidential gig doesn't work out, she can be a stand up comic!

5 Four More Tears  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:33:24am

re: #4 marjoriemoon

It's quite humorous actually. Her handlers keep rushing behind her to clean up her mess.

On the other hand, maybe if this presidential gig doesn't work out, she can be a stand up comic!

She went to the Limbaugh School of Satire...

6 engineer cat  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:33:30am

what's that, god? you say you're furious at right wing politicians in washington claiming to speak for you? you're trying to tell them to pay attention to jesus' message of charity and concern for the least of us before you blow the washington monument over on their self-serving asses?

7 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:34:11am

If (note that "if") God had sent this hurricane, wouldn't the point be something more in keeping with what He normally talks about, like helping your neighbor and showing kindness?

8 RanchTooth  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:34:59am

Are you there God? It's Me, Michelle. I could use a few more natural disasters to help convince the rest of the world of your omnipresence.

K Thx Bye.

9 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:35:05am

Wait, what? Listen to God and/or listen to the American people? Very confusing.

10 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:35:18am

re: #7 EmmmieG

If (note that "if") God had sent this hurricane, wouldn't the point be something more in keeping with what He normally talks about, like helping your neighbor and showing kindness?

Psh, that's old theology. We live in the End Times, that means that God is clearly angry about the current state of the world. As long as our opponents are in power, that is.

11 Firstinla  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:35:48am

Why don't these asshats consider that God is telling the fundies and evangelists that they've got everything wrong and need to shut the fuck up.

12 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:36:47am

What's interesting is that I was just about to come over here to post a slightly different quote:

"Washington, D.C., you'd think by now they'd get the message. An earthquake, a hurricane. Are you listening? The American people have done everything they can, and now it's time for an act of God and we're getting it," she said, drawing some laughs from her audience.

Either one of those two is a misquote, or we have two quotes at two different times, and yet...

"Of course she was saying it in jest," Alice Stewart, spokesperson for Bachmann's campaign, said.

MSNBC Video

Everyone except the Tea Partiers and other extremists will abandon the campaign of Bachmann and Perry. If either of them gets the nomination, the only question remaining is whether or not Obama will be able to marshal enough support among independents and Dems.

13 tnguitarist  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:37:11am
They know government is on a morbid(ly) obesity diet

Perhaps Mrs. Obama could talk them in to eating some veggies. They would be ok with that, right?

14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:37:58am

GOD: Arthur! Arthur, King of the Britons! Oh, don't grovel! If
there's one thing I can't stand, it's people groveling.
ARTHUR: Sorry--
GOD: And don't apologize. Every time I try to talk to someone it's
"sorry this" and "forgive me that" and "I'm not worthy". What are you
doing now!?
ARTHUR: I'm averting my eyes, oh Lord.
GOD: Well, don't. It's like those miserable Psalms-- they're so
depressing. Now knock it off!
ARTHUR: Yes, Lord.
GOD: Right! Arthur, King of the Britons -- your Knights of the Round
Table shall have a task to make them an example in these dark times.
ARTHUR: Good idea, oh Lord!
GOD: 'Course it's a good idea! Behold! Arthur, this is the Holy
Grail. Look well, Arthur, for it is your sacred task to seek
this Grail. That is your purpose, Arthur -- the Quest for the
Holy Grail.
ARTHUR: A blessing!
LAUNCELOT: A blessing from the Lord!
GALAHAD: God be praised!

15 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:38:36am

God told me Timmy's down a well!

16 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:39:18am

re: #15 MrSilverDragon

Sigh. That was Lassie, silly.

17 Political Atheist  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:39:57am

re: #11 Firstinla

Why don't these asshats consider that God is telling the fundies and evangelists that they've got everything wrong and need to shut the fuck up.

Everyone running who claims to see/speak God's thinking is lying or deluded.

18 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:40:14am

re: #14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Came for the Monty Python.

Leaving satisfied.

19 theheat  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:40:39am
And now Bachmann says it was just a joke. Pay no attention to all the other evidence of her extreme religious fanaticism — she was only kidding!

If I made such asinine proclamations, had been making asinine proclamations, and made asinine proclamations on an almost daily basis, and then I turned around and said, "I didn't really mean that last one, or the one before that I got busted by the lamestream media about," someone somewhere would finally get fed up and henceforth refer to me as That Lying Bitch.

20 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:40:49am

re: #16 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sigh. That was Lassie, silly.

Oh right... doG.

21 Firstinla  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:40:59am

re: #17 Rightwingconspirator

Everyone running who claims to see/speak God's thinking is lying or deluded.

Deluded, me thinks.

22 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:41:08am

How is that a fucking joke?

23 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:41:12am

re: #17 Rightwingconspirator

Everyone running who claims to see/speak God's thinking is lying or deluded.

How many people would claim to be prophets if we actually brought back that Biblical commandment to stone false prophets?
//

24 jaunte  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:41:24am
This election will go down in history as the Year of Right Wing Magical Thinking.

There really isn't much support left for the idea that the majority of conservatives are pragmatic and responsive to evidence.

25 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:42:41am

It's not very intuitive of the Lord Almighty to send a message about cutting spending by inflicting a storm that will require a whole bunch of extra spending.
//

26 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:43:18am

She's entitled to her religious beliefs, but she's giving Cliff Robertson President in Escape From LA a run for the money in the crazy religious nutjob for president category. /call me Plissken.

27 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:43:44am

re: #22 Obdicut

How is that a fucking joke?

It was more than a blow job.

28 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:43:46am

re: #25 Alouette

It's not very intuitive of the Lord Almighty to send a message about cutting spending by inflicting a storm that will require a whole bunch of extra spending.
//

This is why we need people like Bachmann to interpret for us. See how this works?

29 Mark Winter  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:44:52am

Umm ok Michelle, why would God send a hurricane that will cost billions to encourage government to rein in the spending?

And if the Almighty wanted to tell Obama something, wouldn't he/she have more efficient and less costly method to drive his/her message home. Like sending the nice Nespresso guy telling Obama that they'd run out of capsules?

30 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:45:29am

I doubt she will win the GOP nomination.

31 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:45:45am

re: #26 lawhawk

She's entitled to her religious beliefs, but she's giving Cliff Robertson President in Escape From LA a run for the money in the crazy religious nutjob for president category. /call me Plissken.

Great reference.

32 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:46:40am

re: #28 thedopefishlives

This is why we need people like Bachmann to interpret for us. See how this works?

What I'm seeing is that we should have a "prophecy-off" like Elijah had with the priests of Baal. The one who can bring down fire from the Lord on the other party wins.

Scientists, being able to monitor volcanoes and storms, should be able to predict more accurately where fire will come down from the Lord.

33 Mark Winter  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:46:42am

re: #25 Alouette

It's not very intuitive of the Lord Almighty to send a message about cutting spending by inflicting a storm that will require a whole bunch of extra spending.
//

You beat me to it :-)

34 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:47:21am

re: #30 NJDhockeyfan

I doubt she will win the GOP nomination.

Me too. All those loony things she says and does are catching up with her. And after the attack ads that point out the anti-Catholic nature of her church, I doubt she wins any Catholic votes.

35 kirkspencer  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:48:18am

re: #30 NJDhockeyfan

I doubt she will win the GOP nomination.

I honestly don't know. At least she's honest in her crazy. Perry's opportunistically crazy, and has the track record to prove it.

36 Political Atheist  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:48:21am

re: #23 Alouette

How many people would claim to be prophets if we actually brought back that Biblical commandment to stone false prophets?
//

It was a translation thing, they thought to get stoned and then become prophets, or make profits. Somthin' like that. *insert Keanu Reeves*

37 Mark Winter  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:51:06am

re: #28 thedopefishlives

This is why we need people like Bachmann to interpret for us. See how this works?

Let's squeeze her in between Habakkuk and Zephaniah

38 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:52:08am

So it wasn't because of the sodomy after all. It was the spending.

//

39 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:52:18am

re: #23 Alouette

But we're not supposed to take the bible literally (right before saying we should be).

40 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:52:30am

re: #35 kirkspencer

re: #36 Rightwingconspirator

I just don't think the GOP would pick her. She is cute and all but she doesn't appear presidential IMO.

41 Mark Winter  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:52:31am

re: #23 Alouette

How many people would claim to be prophets if we actually brought back that Biblical commandment to stone false prophets?
//

What about false prophets who look stoned?

42 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:52:42am

re: #25 Alouette

Bootstrap Bill!

43 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:53:01am

re: #38 Gus 802

So it wasn't because of the sodomy after all. It was the spending.

//

Sodomy, spending, they start with the same letter, that means they're the same thing, right?/

44 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:53:29am

re: #36 Rightwingconspirator

But I am the Chosen One! /Harry Potter

45 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:53:45am

re: #43 thedopefishlives

Sodomy, spending, they start with the same letter, that means they're the same thing, right?/

Just think Barney Frank and you've got it...

46 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:54:03am

re: #25 Alouette

It's not very intuitive of the Lord Almighty to send a message about cutting spending by inflicting a storm that will require a whole bunch of extra spending.
//

God must be a Democrat.

//

47 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:54:49am

re: #46 Gus 802

God must be a Democrat.

//

Reality has a liberal bias.

48 RogueOne  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:55:08am

re: #38 Gus 802

So it wasn't because of the sodomy after all. It was the spending.

//

a little of both, they were trying to pull money out of their ass.

49 Charleston Chew  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:55:44am

Here's a list of the people God murdered in a misguided effort to get us to reduce government spending. He's a small government serial killer:

CONNECTICUT:

• 89-year-old Charlotte Levine - fire.

• 46-year-old Shane Seaver - drowned

FLORIDA:

• 55-year-old Frederick Fernandez - head wound

• 55-year-old James Palmer - drowned

MARYLAND:

• 85-year-old Anne Bell - crushed

NEW JERSEY:

• Celena Sylvestri, 20 - drowned

NEW YORK

• A man in his 50s - electrocuted

• unidentified woman - drowned

• 68-year-old Joseph Rocco - drowned

• unidentified man - drowned.

NORTH CAROLINA:

• unidentified man - struck by tree limb.

• 15-year-old girl - car crash.

• unidentified man - crushed by tree.

• unidentified man - car crash.

• mother - crushed by tree

• Melton Robinson, Jr. - drowned

PENNSYLVANIA:

• Michael Scerarko - crushed by tree.

• A 58-year-old Harrisburg man - crushed by tree.

• unidentifed man - crushed by tree

• motorist - car crash.

• 64-year-old Patricia O'Neill - drowned

VIRGINIA:

• 11-year-old Zahir Robinson - crushed by tree.

• 67-year-old James Blackwell - crushed by tree.

• unidentifed man - crushed by tree.

• 57-year-old William P. Washington - crushed by tree

Not a particularly funny joke.

But seriously, in a hurricane don't drive and stay away from water and trees.

50 Political Atheist  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:56:57am

re: #49 Charleston Chew

Oh that is so harsh and perfectly appropriate.

51 Atlas Fails  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:57:18am

The 11th commandment- Thou shalt not raise the debt ceiling.

Whatever happened to "give unto Cesar"?

52 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:57:52am

My sister's friend died in the hurricane.
I am not the least bit amused by her 'joke*'

*Which we all know she was serious about, this was no joke*

53 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:58:43am

re: #51 Atlas Fails

The 11th commandment- Thou shalt not raise the debt ceiling.

Whatever happened to "give unto Cesar"?

Move over Free-Market-Jesus, Free-Market-God is in town.

//

54 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:59:07am

re: #49 Charleston Chew

Here's a list of the people God murdered in a misguided effort to get us to reduce government spending. He's a small government serial killer:

Not a particularly funny joke.

"Prolife" bigots like Bachmann are only "prolife" until the moment of birth.

After that, the actually/already-born are fair game, in their book.

55 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:59:44am

Underlying it all is a belief in a God who micromanages the world and intervenes in daily life.

That also means that he would not rely on an impersonal mechanism like Evolution to create species, he would have to intervene personally to create the species.

I believe that only a minority of people who actually believe in God have this narrow, intervenistic view of his functioning, and whose who do not believe in God, well...

It's only the start of hurricane season.

56 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:00:06am

re: #52 Varek Raith

My sister's friend died in the hurricane.
I am not the least bit amused by her 'joke*'

*Which we all know she was serious about, this was no joke*

[Link: www.starnewsonline.com...]

57 Charleston Chew  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:00:16am

re: #26 lawhawk

She's entitled to her religious beliefs, but she's giving Cliff Robertson President in Escape From LA a run for the money in the crazy religious nutjob for president category. /call me Plissken.

I just hope Christopher Walken's character from The Dead Zone (1983) never shakes her hand. What he sees would blow his mind.

58 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:00:29am

re: #51 Atlas Fails

The 11th commandment- Thou shalt not raise the debt ceiling.

Whatever happened to "give unto Cesar"?

What are you, some kind of Roman Pagan?!

59 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:01:34am
And now Bachmann says it was just a joke.

Whose joke was it really? Her's of god's? I'm not sure the joker is clearly identified.

60 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:02:17am

If god had wanted us to use paper money he would have burried it deep underground.
/wingnut

61 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:02:27am

re: #52 Varek Raith

My sister's friend died in the hurricane.
I am not the least bit amused by her 'joke*'

*Which we all know she was serious about, this was no joke*

Sorry to hear that Varek.

62 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:02:45am

Rick Perry busts out a black lab in facebook pic update. Must be trying to improve his warm and fuzzy image given that his fire and brimstone approach may be off-putting to some.

63 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:03:18am

re: #61 Gus 802

Sorry to hear that Varek.

The first time I met him I thought, this man is a complete moron.
Sigh.

64 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:04:40am

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Whose joke was it really? Her's of god's? I'm not sure the joker is clearly identified.

I dunno, The Joker is pretty distinctive.

/ducks

65 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:05:22am

re: #64 thedopefishlives

I dunno, The Joker is pretty distinctive.

/ducks

Oh, that's bad.
Minus 10 karma
And plus one upding.
:)

66 Mark Winter  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:06:13am

And now Bachmann says it she was just a joke

67 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:06:40am

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Whose joke was it really? Her's of god's? I'm not sure the joker is clearly identified.

Exactly. What is the actual joke? I don't see a joke anywhere. No point at which it would be funny if viewed a certain way.

68 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:06:54am

re: #66 Mark Winter

And now Bachmann says it she waswas, is, and forever will be, just a joke

FTFY

69 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:07:13am

Hurricane-related crash claims life of Manassas Park teen

Deaths are not jokes.
Bachmann, you have pissed me off more than you ever have.

70 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:07:41am

re: #62 lawhawk

Rick Perry busts out a black lab in facebook pic update. Must be trying to improve his warm and fuzzy image given that his fire and brimstone approach may be off-putting to some.

That's a huge wedding ring.

71 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:08:02am

re: #49 Charleston Chew

Here's a list of the people God murdered in a misguided effort to get us to reduce government spending. He's a small government serial killer:

Not a particularly funny joke.

But seriously, in a hurricane don't drive and stay away from water and trees.

I think the ones who died surfing during the hurricane should win a Darwin Award.

72 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:08:11am

So if she was joking isn't that blasphemy? I'm guessing it would be considered blasphemy in either case. Of course no one said these folks practice what they preach.

73 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:08:53am

The death toll keeps rising from the Hurricane, as the resulting flooding continues to cause problems through NJ, NY, and VT. Some parts of New England may see flooding since they're downstream from those NY/VT rivers.

Lives have been lost, and Bachmann thinks her comments were somehow a joke.

The joke's on anyone who has to be represented by this loon in office.

74 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:08:57am

re: #71 NJDhockeyfan

I think the ones who died surfing during the hurricane should win a Darwin Award.

And the guy who was camped out in a tent.

75 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:09:30am

re: #74 thedopefishlives

And the guy who was camped out in a tent.

Seriously?
Geez.
Why are people so stupid?

76 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:09:44am

re: #70 Killgore Trout

That's a huge wedding ring.

I think that's his class ring from Texas A&M.

77 jaunte  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:09:59am

re: #70 Killgore Trout

He's married to Texas A&M.

78 Mark Winter  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:10:18am

Imagine Obama "joking" about God sending a message to Republicans...

79 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:10:22am

re: #70 Killgore Trout

That's a huge wedding ring.

It's to hold a mirror and a compact.

//

80 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:10:26am

re: #71 NJDhockeyfan

I think the ones who died surfing during the hurricane should win a Darwin Award.

Dude, like, an asteroid can hit the ocean and, like, cause a mile high wave.
WE TOTALLY HAVE TO SURF THAT!

81 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:10:28am

re: #74 thedopefishlives

And the guy who was camped out in a tent.

I didn't hear about that one. What a dope.

82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:10:48am

re: #38 Gus 802

So it wasn't because of the sodomy after all. It was the spending.

//

Well, somebody paid for sodomy.

83 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:10:51am

re: #73 lawhawk

The joke's on anyone who has to be represented by this loon in office.

The non-wingnuts of Minnesota apologize profusely for inflicting this horrible menace on American politics.

84 Firstinla  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:11:08am

re: #70 Killgore Trout

That's a huge wedding ring.

There's a magical genie inside that ring. It gives Perry all the answers.

85 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:11:10am

re: #67 Obdicut

Exactly. What is the actual joke? I don't see a joke anywhere. No point at which it would be funny if viewed a certain way.

The joke is on the people god killed to make his point about Tea Party economics. God's funny like that. The bible's a hoot.

86 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:11:15am

re: #81 NJDhockeyfan

I didn't hear about that one. What a dope.

He was one of the Harrisburg, PA deaths. He was camped out in a tent and a tree fell on him. Sad, but utterly stupid.

87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:11:26am

re: #75 Varek Raith

We need to be more understanding.

88 William of Orange  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:11:41am

Charles,

Honestly. Did you post this Bachmann bulletin for my comic relief? I sure LOL'd.

Also a perfect excuse tyo post this link again.
[Link: bachmanneyezed.com...]

89 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:11:52am

re: #87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We need to be more understanding.

I try.
I try so very hard.

90 Political Atheist  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:12:34am

re: #73 lawhawk

The death toll keeps rising from the Hurricane, as the resulting flooding continues to cause problems through NJ, NY, and VT. Some parts of New England may see flooding since they're downstream from those NY/VT rivers.

Lives have been lost, and Bachmann thinks her comments were somehow a joke.

The joke's on anyone who has to be represented by this loon in office.

Just for the lulz I paged the video...

91 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:12:35am

re: #55 ralphieboy

I believe that only a minority of people who actually believe in God have this narrow, intervenistic view of his functioning, and whose who do not believe in God, well...

I think you're right about that. Though, I would say that can be one result of general social/cultural conservative self-loathing. There are those who feel so insignificant and worthless, it's a comfort to believe that The One Who Made Everything and Everybody™ somehow also cares about what happens every minute of their miserable lives.

Delusional.

92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:12:48am

re: #83 thedopefishlives

Who'da thunk that Al Franken would be the sane one?

93 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:12:58am

re: #75 Varek Raith

Some folks are stupid and did stupid things - like windsurfing after the hurricane or attempting to drive through flooded roads.

But many others who died in and after the storm were doing things that were common and ordinary - trying to clear debris after the storm (tree branch struck and killed one person in NJ), attempting to clear a basement of flooded water (heart attack), or a good samaritan who died saving a kid who was near downed lines and was electrocuted.

94 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:13:43am

re: #93 lawhawk

Some folks are stupid and did stupid things - like windsurfing after the hurricane or attempting to drive through flooded roads.

But many others who died in and after the storm were doing things that were common and ordinary - trying to clear debris after the storm (tree branch struck and killed one person in NJ), attempting to clear a basement of flooded water (heart attack), or a good samaritan who died saving a kid who was near downed lines and was electrocuted.

Those I can understand.
Jumping into a river at midnight during a hurricane?
Nope.

95 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:14:30am

The Dems are worried about the next election.

"If the election were next Tuesday he'd lose. That's how bad it is," said a Democratic strategist.

Ouch. They have a year to turn things around. With continued poll numbers slipping Bachmann isn't the one they need to worry about.

96 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:15:07am

re: #92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Who'da thunk that Al Franken would be the sane one?

If you'd said that to me 3 years ago, I would've looked at you like you were sprouting horns out of your head. Now? He certainly beats the pants off of Pawlenty and Bachmann.

97 Four More Tears  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:16:00am

re: #70 Killgore Trout

That's a huge wedding ring.

Sure that isn't a class ring?

98 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:16:17am

re: #83 thedopefishlives

The non-wingnuts of Minnesota apologize profusely for inflicting this horrible menace on American politics.

Hey, don't feel bad. My state graced the world with Nixon and Reagan.

99 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:16:21am

re: #86 thedopefishlives

I wouldn't consider that to be a Darwin type death; tree branches could kill someone in their own home (and at least one such incident did occur during this storm), let alone a camper at a campground. Now, if the guy was standing on the tree limb when the tree came down in a hurricane, now that rises to Darwin levels.

100 Firstinla  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:16:32am

re: #95 NJDhockeyfan

The Dems are worried about the next election.

"If the election were next Tuesday he'd lose. That's how bad it is," said a Democratic strategist.

Ouch. They have a year to turn things around. With continued poll numbers slipping Bachmann isn't the one they need to worry about.

With the present mood of the country, if the election was held next Tuesday every politician would lose.

101 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:16:33am

I just found this on Gawker:

Just when you thought the Qaddafis couldn't get any worse.

Don't watch the video unless you have a strong stomach.

Fortunately, I have heard that CNN is trying to help get this lady to medical attention.

102 Four More Tears  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:17:09am

re: #101 ProLifeLiberal

I just found this on Gawker:

Just when you thought the Qaddafis couldn't get any worse.

Don't watch the video unless you have a strong stomach.

Fortunately, I have heard that CNN is trying to help get this lady to medical attention.

Saw that yesterday. Fucking monsters.

103 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:17:17am

re: #22 Obdicut

You mean you don't joke about billions in damages, deaths of dozens, etc. all for the point of political expediency?

You have no sense of humor.

104 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:18:04am

re: #90 Rightwingconspirator

Just for the lulz I paged the video...

Christ, that is one stupid socon POS.

105 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:18:21am

re: #100 Firstinla

With the present mood of the country, if the election was held next Tuesday every politician would lose.

My dog could beat most of them right now.

106 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:18:31am

re: #95 NJDhockeyfan

Articles citing unnamed strategists really aren't that impressive.

107 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:19:58am

re: #99 lawhawk

I wouldn't consider that to be a Darwin type death; tree branches could kill someone in their own home (and at least one such incident did occur during this storm), let alone a camper at a campground. Now, if the guy was standing on the tree limb when the tree came down in a hurricane, now that rises to Darwin levels.

Well, I only called it a Darwin Award candidate because, honestly, who goes on a camping trip with a freakin' HURRICANE bearing down on you? Outside of that, you're right, there have been several other tree-related deaths in this disaster alone that are not Darwin types.

108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:20:00am

re: #96 thedopefishlives

It's fucking embarrassing. I used to raise my hand all of the way when someone asked for a showing of the conservatives in the room.

I'm finding it is hard to raise my hands while they're in my pockets and I am looking down kicking dust bunnies on the floor.

Now I've done it. People know I'm a rightie and kick bunnies.

109 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:20:32am

re: #101 ProLifeLiberal

I just found this on Gawker:

Just when you thought the Qaddafis couldn't get any worse.

Don't watch the video unless you have a strong stomach.

Fortunately, I have heard that CNN is trying to help get this lady to medical attention.

Hannibal Gaddafi is a horrid man. His father let him do whatever he wanted to whoever he wanted. Even when he was arrested in Switzerland for brutalizing a woman, Mo got him out by taking Swiss citizens working in Libya hostage till the charges were dropped. Both father and son should die for their misdeeds.

110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:21:45am

re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Aaah. My first "They're Their There" correction.

111 Political Atheist  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:21:55am

re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Us ordinary right leaners need to retake the brand.

112 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:22:18am

re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now I've done it. People know I'm a rightie and kick bunnies.

Hi, my name is dopefish and I... *cough* *stares at floor* I'm a conservative.

ROOM: "Hi dopefish."

113 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:22:51am

re: #100 Firstinla

With the present mood of the country, if the election was held next Tuesday every politician would lose.

New poll...against all other industries, the gov't comes in last.

Poll: Only 17 percent hold positive view of federal government

Americans have a more favorable view of every other industry — including oil and gas — than of the federal government, according to a new poll released Monday.

Only 17 percent of Americans surveyed have a positive view of the federal government.

According to Gallup, this is the first time the federal government has ranked at the bottom of a list of industries, displacing even the oil-and-gas industry, which came in second to last this year.

Washington DC: Epic Fail!

114 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:23:06am

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

Hannibal Gaddafi is a horrid man.

Bad news. He may have escaped to a safe haven:

BreakingNews Breaking News
Algerian government says Gadhafi's wife, daughter Aisha, sons Hannibal and Mohammad are in Algeria - Al Arabiya [Link: t.co...]

115 Political Atheist  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:23:43am

re: #106 Obdicut

Articles citing unnamed strategists really aren't that impressive.

At this point it does not take a strategist to see the problems Obama faces. Or acknowledge them. Bachmann can't beat Obama. High unemployment just might.

116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:25:35am

re: #111 Rightwingconspirator

Us ordinary right leaners need to retake the brand.

re: #112 thedopefishlives

Hi, my name is dopefish and I... *cough* *stares at floor* I'm a conservative.

ROOM: "Hi dopefish."

The problem now? I don't want to agree with Michelle on anything! Not even things we'd agree on.

117 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:26:00am

re: #115 Rightwingconspirator

Sure. The relentless propaganda from the right-wing noise machine isn't helping either, nor the spinelessness of the Democrats in many ways.

But anyone saying that if the election was held tomorrow, he'd lose, is an idiot. The election isn't held tomorrow. It's a pointless statement. There's very little correlation between approval rating now or anything of the sort and success in the next election.

Unemployment may do so, but I do think that people are starting to get that the GOP is not at all about fiscal conservatism. I hope so. If they don't, if the GOP makes any gains, it's going to be really, really bad for this country.

118 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:27:14am

re: #113 NJDhockeyfan

New poll...against all other industries, the gov't comes in last.

Poll: Only 17 percent hold positive view of federal government

Washington DC: Epic Fail!

Big surprise, with half the politicians saying "Government is the problem" for 25 years. Does this look like a good thing to you?

119 albusteve  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:27:35am

re: #115 Rightwingconspirator

At this point it does not take a strategist to see the problems Obama faces. Or acknowledge them. Bachmann can't beat Obama. High unemployment just might.

denial....people just cannot fathom BO getting whipped, it does not register

120 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:28:40am

re: #119 albusteve

denial...people just cannot fathom BO getting whipped, it does not register

As usual, actually paying attention to what people are saying is not your strong suit.

121 albusteve  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:28:49am

re: #118 Decatur Deb

Big surprise, with half the politicians saying "Government is the problem" for 25 years. Does this look like a good thing to you?

govt IS the problem...they are also the solution

122 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:28:51am

Gotta go do some work. Have a great scaly day!

123 Political Atheist  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:29:02am

re: #117 Obdicut

You touched on the real problem. It's not about the quality of the opposition. If it were we could rest relatively easy. If Huntsman were the winner of the primary I'd rest easier than say if Bachmann or Perry get it.

Obama meet the Bush 41 dilemma. You can win the war and more but lose over the economy.

124 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:29:24am

re: #119 albusteve

denial...people just cannot fathom BO getting whipped, it does not register

Right now I'd lay 40-60 that Perry is the next president. That will be fun.

125 albusteve  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:30:11am

re: #120 Obdicut

As usual, actually paying attention to what people are saying is not your strong suit.

how would you know?....one does not need to post 500 words to express the notion that BO is in trouble

126 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:30:25am

re: #124 Decatur Deb

Right now I'd lay 40-60 that Perry is the next president. That will be fun.

Sure, about as much fun as rubbing your tongue on a zester.

127 Idle Drifter  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:31:15am

re: #101 ProLifeLiberal

I just found this on Gawker:

Just when you thought the Qaddafis couldn't get any worse.

Don't watch the video unless you have a strong stomach.

Fortunately, I have heard that CNN is trying to help get this lady to medical attention.

Aline deserves to be put on trial for crimes against humanity for this atrocity. How the woman is still alive after her ordeal amazes me. She deserves justice.

128 Alexzander  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:32:20am

LULZ:

The headline on Politico right now:

IS RICK PERRY DUMB?

[Link: www.politico.com...]

129 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:32:48am

re: #113 NJDhockeyfan

New poll...against all other industries, the gov't comes in last.

Poll: Only 17 percent hold positive view of federal government

Washington DC: Epic Fail!

Depends on how you interpret those numbers. The Feds allowed the banks to create the financial crisis. Today, nobody has been held accountable. Nothing has been done to prevent them from doing this again. Our deficits are skyrocketing yet the Feds keep tax breaks for the richest citizens and handouts to oil companies. Not everyone pissed at the feds is a libertarian fundamentalist.

130 Alexzander  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:33:13am
“He’s like Bush only without the brains,” cracked one former Republican governor who knows Perry, repeating a joke that has made the rounds.

Read more: [Link: www.politico.com...]

131 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:33:36am

I really can't tell from the transcript if Bachmann was in dead serious or not, and I don't much care...I'm still not voting for her.

132 nines09  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:33:37am

Mindless pandering self righteous twit with not an ounce of humanity or soul. An empty shell of a woman. Bogus lying piece of offal. She would lead the free world? Her? This delusional stain upon humanity? This odorous pile of effluence? Totally vapid and meaningless piece of tripe.

133 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:33:53am

re: #129 Killgore Trout

I have a high opinion of what the federal government does in some areas, but there are other areas I feel like it's failing hugely in its responsibility. That doesn't mean I want to see them remove themselves from those areas. It means I want government improved.

134 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:34:24am

re: #132 nines09

Mindless pandering self righteous twit with not an ounce of humanity or soul. An empty shell of a woman. Bogus lying piece of offal. She would lead the free world? Her? This delusional stain upon humanity? This odorous pile of effluence? Totally vapid and meaningless piece of tripe.

But what about her good side?

135 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:34:39am

re: #129 Killgore Trout

Depends on how you interpret those numbers. The Feds allowed the banks to create the financial crisis. Today, nobody has been held accountable. Nothing has been done to prevent them from doing this again. Our deficits are skyrocketing yet the Feds keep tax breaks for the richest citizens and handouts to oil companies. Not everyone pissed at the feds is a libertarian fundamentalist.

Exactly. It's not at all unusual for people to despise the person/thing that allowed abuse to happen more than the abuser itself.

136 nines09  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:35:04am

That is her good side.

137 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:35:04am

re: #119 albusteve

denial...people just cannot fathom BO getting whipped, it does not register

Just because you keep saying it does not make it true. Where do you even get that from?

138 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:35:55am

i've got to go take care of some things. BBL

139 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:36:15am

re: #30 NJDhockeyfan

I doubt she will win the GOP nomination.

Me too.

Here's hoping we're not wrong.

140 Idle Drifter  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:37:20am
Youtube Video

I don't know why but this piece of music seems appropriate. It's just the music no screaming or other sound effects.

141 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:37:41am

re: #115 Rightwingconspirator

At this point it does not take a strategist to see the problems Obama faces. Or acknowledge them. Bachmann can't beat Obama. High unemployment just might.

Which is yet another reason it's in the GOPs interests to make sure as many people as possible stay out of work. Bachmann was dumb enough to admit this on the air, herself.

142 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:40:00am

re: #135 publicityStunted

Exactly. It's not at all unusual for people to despise the person/thing that allowed abuse to happen more than the abuser itself.

Also remember that congressional Republicans just cost us our AAA credit rating and caused about 1,000 points off the Dow because of their unwillingness to reduce the deficit. The public is not happy.

143 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:41:00am

re: #139 SanFranciscoZionist

Me too.

Here's hoping we're not wrong.

Rick Perry is the anointed one.

144 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:41:30am

re: #143 Gus 802

Rick Perry is the anointed one.

He is sort of oily.

145 wee fury  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:41:35am

G-d is surely tired of so many people grandiosely interpreting.

146 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:42:06am

re: #144 Decatur Deb

He is sort of oily.

Slick Ricky.

147 Political Atheist  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:42:33am

re: #129 Killgore Trout

TARP was lots of money, with pork fat added, and hundreds of pages of inadequate oversight and lessons not applied. Today we do not have TARP, we do have the same lack of oversight. The same lack of enforcement and investigations. We can only blame the sitting Congress, Senate and President for those current poorly applied lessons. Nobody went to jail as the people involved had cover bought and paid for via campaign contributions to both parties.

Did you see where BofA was foreclosing on a home because the elderly couple sent the payment early after going through the govt process to help them? Of course they changed their minds after it hit the papers.

148 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:42:43am

re: #146 Gus 802

Slick Ricky.

Make that Slick Rick™.

149 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:45:20am

re: #148 Gus 802

Make that Slick Rick™.

I've thought of him as Rick Perryneum, because 'taint a good thing if he wins.

150 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:46:10am

re: #147 Rightwingconspirator

Most of the regulatory efforts were stymied by a combination of the GOP and some Democrats who are tight with the financial industry. But between the two parties, on the Democrats have any members in favor of real change to finance regulation.

151 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:46:33am

re: #147 Rightwingconspirator

TARP was a panic reaction, and it worked about as well as panic can.

152 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:46:58am

re: #51 Atlas Fails

The 11th commandment- Thou shalt not raise the debt ceiling.

Whatever happened to "give unto Cesar"?

Paul Newman salad dressings.

153 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:49:37am

re: #56 Varek Raith

[Link: www.starnewsonline.com...]

Oh no. I am so saddened by that.

My condolences to your sister.

154 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:49:40am

rotfl

Youtube Video
155 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:50:06am

Florida Today is reporting the death toll from Irene at 31 right now.

156 engineer cat  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:51:30am

um, mr perry...

Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.

President Dwight David Eisenhower, 1954

[Link: www.eisenhowermemorial.org...]

157 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:54:06am

re: #147 Rightwingconspirator

TARP was lots of money, with pork fat added, and hundreds of pages of inadequate oversight and lessons not applied. Today we do not have TARP, we do have the same lack of oversight. The same lack of enforcement and investigations. We can only blame the sitting Congress, Senate and President for those current poorly applied lessons. Nobody went to jail as the people involved had cover bought and paid for via campaign contributions to both parties.

Did you see where BofA was foreclosing on a home because the elderly couple sent the payment early after going through the govt process to help them? Of course they changed their minds after it hit the papers.

I had to check for updates. Much of the opposition to TARP is misplaced and based on bad information. Here's the latest....
US gov't recovers nearly $900 mn in TARP bailout

"As a result of these dispositions and other TARP repayments and income, taxpayers have now recovered $314 billion (76 percent) compared to the $413 billion disbursed to date for the program," the Treasury said.

We'll see how much of the money we get back but it needed to be done. There really wasn't any other solution.

158 Political Atheist  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:54:29am

re: #141 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Which is yet another reason it's in the GOPs interests to make sure as many people as possible stay out of work. Bachmann was dumb enough to admit this on the air, herself.

The GOP can stand in the way of the Presidents (two years overdue) jobs plan. We did not really have to do medical reform before that but the decision was made. But the GOP and the Dems share about equal responsibility in offshoring jobs. As in every President since Nixon all for "free trade" etc.

Now we have to bring the jobs home before we can bring the troops home, or unemployment stays at the level that keeps Presidents at one term only.

159 Big Steve  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:55:24am

Tree Lobster's is appropriate for this post.....[Link: www.treelobsters.com...]

160 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:55:37am

Morning all!

Right Coast Lizards still here?

161 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:56:43am

re: #159 Big Steve

Tree Lobster's is appropriate for this post...[Link: www.treelobsters.com...]

I think Irene may have been punishment for downgrading Pluto. Although a little delayed to be effective punishment. It takes a long time for things to travel in space.

162 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:56:46am

re: #159 Big Steve

Tree Lobster's is appropriate for this post...[Link: www.treelobsters.com...]

Lol.

163 Political Atheist  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:57:24am

re: #157 Killgore Trout

I had to check for updates. Much of the opposition to TARP is misplaced and based on bad information. Here's the latest...
US gov't recovers nearly $900 mn in TARP bailout

We'll see how much of the money we get back but it needed to be done. There really wasn't any other solution.

I'm thinking more about the lost opportunity to whip the banks/financial institutions into line more than the money. Their should have been more or stronger strings attached to the money IMO.

164 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:58:46am

re: #161 ggt

I think Irene may have been punishment for downgrading Pluto. Although a little delayed to be effective punishment. It takes a long time for things to travel in space.

Sure. Blame Neil deGrasse Tyson.

[Link: planetary.org...]

165 blueraven  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:58:54am

re: #113 NJDhockeyfan

New poll...against all other industries, the gov't comes in last.

Poll: Only 17 percent hold positive view of federal government

Washington DC: Epic Fail!

Rise of Tea Party...Government fail

Coincidence?

166 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:01:33am

re: #158 Rightwingconspirator

The GOP can stand in the way of the Presidents (two years overdue) jobs plan. We did not really have to do medical reform before that but the decision was made. But the GOP and the Dems share about equal responsibility in offshoring jobs. As in every President since Nixon all for "free trade" etc.

Now we have to bring the jobs home before we can bring the troops home, or unemployment stays at the level that keeps Presidents at one term only.

You can tell their strategy and priorities by the bills they propose...crap about abortion and whatnot. They don't give a damn about jobs, or even those lofty claims to liberate markets so their deities job creators can hire, they only give a damn about winning. Keeping high unemployment is one part of it.

167 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:03:00am

re: #163 Rightwingconspirator

I'm thinking more about the lost opportunity to whip the banks/financial institutions into line more than the money. Their should have been more or stronger strings attached to the money IMO.

Agreed.

168 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:03:03am

I thought jokes were supposed to be funny.

169 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:04:17am

People have hated the gubmint for a long, long time.

The voters are connected to the nominee,
the nominee's connected to the treasury.
When they ain't connected to the treasury,
They sits around on their thigh bones.

They sits around in this place they got,
This big congressional parking lot.
Just sits around on their you know what.
Up there they call them their thigh bones.

-Lil Abner, 1956

170 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:04:33am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

I thought jokes were supposed to be funny.

Related: what kind of people find those kinds of jokes funny?

171 Big Steve  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:05:20am

re: #161 ggt

I think Irene may have been punishment for downgrading Pluto. Although a little delayed to be effective punishment. It takes a long time for things to travel in space.

I think you have stumbled onto something important. If God is pissed about Pluto, well Pluto was downgraded nearly exactly five years ago (Aug, 2006). Since even God cannot work faster than the speed of light, that means that God lives 5 light years away or around alpha Centauri B.

172 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:06:22am

re: #170 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Related: what kind of people find those kinds of jokes funny?

What are right wing assholes, Alex?

173 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:06:45am

re: #164 Decatur Deb

Sure. Blame Neil deGrasse Tyson.

[Link: planetary.org...]

Yeah, it's his fault!

174 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:07:50am

re: #170 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Related: what kind of people find those kinds of jokes funny?

Um... the same people who thought Full House and Family Matters were funny?

175 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:08:00am

re: #171 Big Steve

I think you have stumbled onto something important. If God is pissed about Pluto, well Pluto was downgraded nearly exactly five years ago (Aug, 2006). Since even God cannot work faster than the speed of light, that means that God lives 5 light years away or around alpha Centauri B.

So, G-d really does need a spaceship?

176 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:09:11am

re: #175 ggt

So, G-d really does need a spaceship?

If He does, I am certain He doesn't need us to build it for Him.

(This is different than if He has a purpose in us having one for us.)

177 darthstar  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:09:21am

A joke? Bachmann's fucking with god now? God don't take that shit lightly...look at how he treats people who won't love his kid(eternal hellfire and suffering!)? Bachmann had better be careful.

178 Idle Drifter  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:10:55am

re: #175 ggt

So, G-d really does need a spaceship?

He doesn't need dams or ice skates because he can walk on water. Oh, wait that was his son but they're one in the trinity with the Holy Spirit who is the Deus Ex Machina in the bible and only shows up at random times.

179 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:11:22am

re: #176 EmmmieG

If He does, I am certain He doesn't need us to build it for Him.

(This is different than if He has a purpose in us having one for us.)

Don't we live on a big spherical spaceship?

180 Four More Tears  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:13:10am

re: #179 b_sharp

Don't we live on a big spherical spaceship?

Maybe, but we still haven't found the helm.

181 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:13:13am

re: #178 Idle Drifter

He doesn't need dams or ice skates because he can walk on water. Oh, wait that was his son but they're one in the trinity with the Holy Spirit who is the Deus Ex Machina in the bible and only shows up at random times.

Who's the monkey in the wrench? Um, sorry, that should be monkey-wrench in the workings?

182 darthstar  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:14:54am

re: #178 Idle Drifter

He doesn't need dams or ice skates because he can walk on water. Oh, wait that was his son but they're one in the trinity with the Holy Spirit who is the Deus Ex Machina in the bible and only shows up at random times.

The Holy Spirit has it made...doesn't have to do a damn thing...except for that time it got to come down and get some girl pregnant...but that was a one-off. It doesn't even have to endure the bullshit credit call outs after a touchdown like Jesus and God do.

183 jamesfirecat  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:15:27am

//Sorry Michele I'm standing by my interpretation God sent the Earthquake and the Hurricane to teach Republicans the folly of their ways when it comes to refusing to see what a good thing government stimulus can be and there's nothing you can do to change my mind!

184 Alexzander  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:15:40am

They are discussing the "Is Rick Perry dumb?" article on Fox News right now. Michelle Malkin and whats her name host.

185 Four More Tears  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:15:41am

re: #182 darthstar

The Holy Spirit has it made...doesn't have to do a damn thing...except for that time it got to come down and get some girl pregnant...but that was a one-off. It doesn't even have to endure the bullshit credit call outs after a touchdown like Jesus and God do.

But it's part of God, so yeah...

186 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:16:13am

When we're gone this is what robots will talk about....
AI vs. AI. Two chatbots talking to each other

Youtube Video
187 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:16:54am

Man fatally shot in front of son in Oakland

OAKLAND, Calif. (KGO) -- A father was gunned down in Oakland right in front of his six-year-old son. It's just part of a string of deadly violence in East Oakland. Sunday's afternoon's shooting happened on International Boulevard and 103rd Avenue.

Family members say the boy can't stop talking about the shooting. They say he was in the car when his father was shot only a few feet away.

Jose Esparza had just cashed his check and bought a few items at the grocery store when two men approached him. His relatives say, according to witnesses, the two men tried to rob Esparza, but he resisted...

This is Oakland's 78th homicide of the year. Last year at this time, there were 59 homicides. Family members say they're surprised this happened in the middle of the day, but while they're concerned about the safety of their neighborhood, their bigger concern is for the little boy who witnessed his father's death...

188 darthstar  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:18:16am

re: #185 JasonA

But it's part of God, so yeah...

When Terrell Owens pulls a Sharpie out of his pocket and signs a touchdown ball with "Compliments of the Holy Spirit" before throwing it into the stands we can talk.

189 Alexzander  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:18:33am

Fox News Host: Does it matter if Rick Perry is dumb?

LULZ.

190 darthstar  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:19:07am

re: #188 darthstar

Love being able to fix typos in two minutes or less.

191 blueraven  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:19:47am

re: #186 Killgore Trout

Hey KT, this might be something you would like. I think I am going to give it a try.

Asian Quinoa Salad

192 darthstar  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:19:52am

re: #189 Alexzander

Fox News Host: Does it matter if Rick Perry is dumb?

LULZ.

Yes. Unless you're from Texas.

193 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:19:54am

re: #187 Gus 802

Man fatally shot in front of son in Oakland

How horrible.

I hope social services comes thru with good therapy for the kid.

194 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:22:19am

The rebels have offered a $1.7 million dollar reward for Kadhafi's capture, dead or alive.

Will Dog the Bounty Hunter be going after this one?

195 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:22:59am

re: #191 blueraven

Hey KT, this might be something you would like. I think I am going to give it a try.

Asian Quinoa Salad

That does look good. Like many recipes, they don't include toasting the quinoa first. It takes just a few minutes in a dry pan and adds lots of nutty flavor.

196 Four More Tears  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:23:10am

Uhh, what the fuck is up with Austria? One is weird, but two?

Austria’s Latest Dungeon Dad

197 albusteve  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:23:44am

re: #188 darthstar

When Terrell Owens pulls a Sharpie out of his pocket and signs a touchdown ball with "Compliments of the Holy Spirit" before throwing it into the stands we can talk.

I never liked that guy...when JJ hired him to play in Dallas, I almost had a heart attack

198 Alexzander  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:24:20am

re: #195 Killgore Trout

That does look good. Like many recipes, they don't include toasting the quinoa first. It takes just a few minutes in a dry pan and adds lots of nutty flavor.

Wow I've made quinoa many times but I've never heard of toasting it first.

199 blueraven  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:24:51am

re: #195 Killgore Trout

That does look good. Like many recipes, they don't include toasting the quinoa first. It takes just a few minutes in a dry pan and adds lots of nutty flavor.

Yeah, I always like to do that with most grains. Even rice dishes are always better to me with a little toasting.

He does toast some nuts and sesame seeds.

200 engineer cat  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:24:56am

re: #189 Alexzander

Fox News Host: Does it matter if Rick Perry is dumb?

LULZ.

being dumb won't hurt perry in his quest to free social security from government involvement so it will be free to grow jobs

201 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:26:13am

I think Bachman will say anything.

202 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:26:32am

re: #180 JasonA

Maybe, but we still haven't found the helm.

I thought it was in the centre.

203 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:27:21am

re: #198 Alexzander

Wow I've made quinoa many times but I've never heard of toasting it first.

Give it a try. Very few recipes mention it but I think it's essential. The smell of toasting quinoa is right up there with baking bread as the most wonderful comforting scents.

204 Four More Tears  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:27:28am

re: #202 b_sharp

I thought it was in the centre.

"Centre?" *eyes b_sharp suspiciously*

205 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:29:29am

re: #203 Killgore Trout

Give it a try. Very few recipes mention it but I think it's essential. The smell of toasting quinoa is right up there with baking bread as the most wonderful comforting scents.

That sounds like work.

Won't you just make if for me?

206 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:29:45am

re: #196 JasonA

Uhh, what the fuck is up with Austria? One is weird, but two?

Austria’s Latest Dungeon Dad

WTF?

207 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:30:12am

re: #196 JasonA

Uhh, what the fuck is up with Austria? One is weird, but two?

Austria’s Latest Dungeon Dad

WTF?

Neighbors heard screaming over the years but never did anything about it?

208 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:30:39am

re: #205 ggt

That sounds like work.

Won't you just make if for me?

Only if you do the dishes.

209 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:31:22am

re: #189 Alexzander

Fox News Host: Does it matter if Rick Perry is dumb?

LULZ.

You can't be serious. Yeah we want someone with no intelligence as commander in chief. Good grief.

210 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:31:43am

re: #208 Killgore Trout

Only if you do the dishes.

Paper dishes, disposable and recyclable.

211 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:32:22am

"...My brain is like a chicken pot pie..."

212 darthstar  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:32:58am

re: #197 albusteve

I never liked that guy...when JJ hired him to play in Dallas, I almost had a heart attack

Dallas deserves him.

213 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:33:43am

re: #204 JasonA

"Centre?" *eyes b_sharp suspiciously*

Shh. I live in a communist country.

214 Four More Tears  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:34:28am

re: #213 b_sharp

Shh. I live in a communist country.

You live in Canada?

215 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:34:28am

I think we should start rating nutburger pronouncements on a 1 to 10 scale. After all, this has reached a phenomenal, unheard of level of refinement and creativity and the creators deserve to have their work quantified.
I think this one deserves a 9.1 at least. It is somewhat original, since Bachmann passed on the moth-eaten Sodom and Gomorrah blame-the-gays meme.
It also rates for conviction and audacity, since the speaker manages to couch it in terms of a disaffected electorate not only sharing her dubious view but demanding action. Finally, it must lose a few tenths for the shameful backtracking, though this does nothing substantial to reduce the rich aroma of prime nutcake aging in the public sphere.

216 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:35:21am

re: #207 ggt

WTF?

Neighbors heard screaming over the years but never did anything about it?

It is a common release of sexual emotion. They thought their neighbours were just being 'vigorous.'

217 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:36:25am

re: #214 JasonA

You live in Canada?

Bloody hell, now everyone knows.

218 blueraven  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:36:34am

re: #203 Killgore Trout

I think I will do this one instead. Basil is one of the few items that survived in my heat/drought stricken garden.

pesto-quinoa-salad

219 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:36:57am

re: #216 b_sharp

It is a common release of sexual emotion. They thought their neighbours were just being 'vigorous.'

nah, not buying it.

They said the didn't go near the house. It was considered a "witch-house".

220 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:37:47am

These recipes look fantastic.

But, I just haven't been in the mood to cook --ever.

221 albusteve  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:38:31am

re: #212 darthstar

Dallas deserves him.

like FS deserved Bonds...perfect match

222 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:38:38am

re: #215 Shiplord Kirel

I think we should start rating nutburger pronouncements on a 1 to 10 scale. After all, this has reached a phenomenal, unheard of level of refinement and creativity and the creators deserve to have their work quantified.
I think this one deserves a 9.1 at least. It is somewhat original, since Bachmann passed on the moth-eaten Sodom and Gomorrah blame-the-gays meme.
It also rates for conviction and audacity, since the speaker manages to couch it in terms of a disaffected electorate not only sharing her dubious view but demanding action. Finally, it must lose a few tenths for the shameful backtracking, though this does nothing substantial to reduce the rich aroma of prime nutcake aging in the public sphere.

Aren't they already measured in MilliBachmanns?
That would make this 910 MilliBachmanns.

223 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:38:45am

re: #218 blueraven

I think I will do this one instead. Basil is one of the few items that survived in my heat/drought stricken garden.

pesto-quinoa-salad

That looks good too. I usually put a bit of lemon juice in my pesto. Adds flavor and helps preserve that bright green color.

224 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:38:46am

Beyonce is Pregnant.

Biggest News story of the day.

225 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:39:44am

re: #219 ggt

nah, not buying it.

They said the didn't go near the house. It was considered a "witch-house".

Apparently that works too, if you live in the 16th century.

226 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:40:04am

We have a new Chief Economist.

and Beyonce is Pregnant.

227 Four More Tears  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:40:15am

re: #224 ggt

Beyonce is Pregnant.

Biggest News story of the day.

Yeah, but only for Americans with electricity.

228 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:40:37am

re: #224 ggt

Beyonce is Pregnant.

Biggest News story of the day.

Did she put a ring on it?

229 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:40:55am

re: #200 engineer dog

being dumb won't hurt perry in his quest to free social security from government involvement so it will be free to grow jobs

Rotfl!

230 blueraven  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:41:16am

re: #223 Killgore Trout

That looks good too. I usually put a bit of lemon juice in my pesto. Adds flavor and helps preserve that bright green color.

I use lemon or lime often on vegetables in place of salt. It really brightens up the flavor. Also, always on chicken before cooking.

231 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:41:44am

re: #124 Decatur Deb

Right now I'd lay 40-60 that Perry is the next president. That will be fun.

I certainly give him the biggest odds of clincing the nomination, whether he beats Obama depends a lot on the economy. Namely, the worse it is for all of us, the better it is for Perry...

232 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:42:01am

Bachmann was making a joke, but it doesn't change the fact that she's an ass.

233 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:42:07am

re: #230 blueraven

And lemon or lime go well with the New Amsterdam gin I've got waiting for me when I get home... /

234 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:42:23am

re: #230 blueraven

I use lemon or lime often on vegetables in place of slat. It really brightens up the flavor. Also, always on chicken before cooking.

Slat?
No mud?

235 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:44:02am

re: #196 JasonA

Uhh, what the fuck is up with Austria? One is weird, but two?

Austria’s Latest Dungeon Dad

""I always knew, during those 24 years, that what I was doing was wrong. I must have been mad to do something like that," he told the court during his trial."

9_9

Somebody tell this filthy rapist, if you're mad then you don't know. That's how the logic is supposed to go.

236 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:44:03am

re: #232 bloodstar

Bachmann was making a joke, but it doesn't change the fact that she's an ass.

If it was a joke, she's bumping into that 'name in vain' thing.

237 blueraven  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:44:11am

re: #234 b_sharp

Slat?
No mud?

penciled it!

238 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:44:19am

Gaga has an alter ego?

Who wouldda thunk it?

239 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:44:42am

re: #228 b_sharp

Did she put a ring on it?

If she liked it, we can probably assume so.

240 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:44:42am

Hmmm.... we've got milliBachmans to describe her crazy utterances.

I'd suggest we've got protoPerryisms (harkens back to the creationist roots), rotoRomneys (for all that furious spinning), and will get back with normalized terms for Luap Nor and the rest of the field...

241 Achilles Tang  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:45:05am

Just a joke??

Only an atheist would say that, as a bad joke.

242 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:46:34am

re: #236 Decatur Deb

If it was a joke, she's bumping into that 'name in vain' thing.

True.

The hypocrisy knows no bounds.

243 blueraven  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:47:59am

re: #236 Decatur Deb

If it was a joke, she's bumping into that 'name in vain' thing.

If it was a joke, its almost worse. People died, property was damaged or destroyed. It is going to cost a fortune. How is this funny?

244 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:48:06am

re: #237 blueraven

penciled it!

You broke my joke.

245 Alexzander  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:49:32am

re: #242 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

OT:

Are you a grad student at the moment (I think I knew this at one point but I've forgotten)?

246 blueraven  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:49:33am

re: #244 b_sharp

You broke my joke.

Bad timing...you should have waited another minute or two!

247 darthstar  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:49:44am

re: #221 albusteve

like FS deserved Bonds...perfect match

All is forgiven with Bonds. He's retired now, and gets front row seats at the games where he can easily be found by the cameras so the fans can applaud him for his record - the doping is just something we accept about him...like Greg Allman and his heroin habit. As long as he keeps singing and jamming - no worries.

248 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:50:54am

re: #240 lawhawk

Hmmm... we've got milliBachmans to describe her crazy utterances.

I'd suggest we've got protoPerryisms (harkens back to the creationist roots), rotoRomneys (for all that furious spinning), and will get back with normalized terms for Luap Nor and the rest of the field...

We need a conversion algorithm to go from MilliBachmanns to protoPerryisms.

249 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:51:35am

re: #226 ggt

We have a new Chief Economist.

and Beyonce is Pregnant.

Freddy Krueger?

//

250 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:51:39am

re: #246 blueraven

Bad timing...you should have waited another minute or two!

Thats OK, I'll just limp around til it heals.

251 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:51:45am

re: #241 Naso Tang

Just a joke??

Only an atheist would say that, as a bad joke.

Not at all!

She's just using the same screwy logic that lets people make 'jokes' about Jews, Blacks, Handicapped, Gays, or whatever other mean spirited joke bigoted comment - that they later wonder what the big deal was because they were only 'joking'.

Note: I'm not saying that Bachmann is a bigot based on this particular joke, just that it's wrong to claim that *only* an atheist would say that is a fallacy.

252 darthstar  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:51:54am

re: #248 b_sharp

We need a conversion algorithm to go from MilliBachmanns to protoPerryisms.

Just divide by i.

253 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:52:00am

We've got more insanity from Bachmann. She stopped in FL when she had to remake travel plans due to Irene. So, she visited Cuban expats (as every politician is want to do when courting the large Cuban population in South Florida), but then said something that I think borders on the insane.

She would consider drilling for oil in the Everglades.

On Sunday in Sarasota, Bachmann said she would consider oil and natural gas drilling in the Everglades if it can be done without harming the environment.Hurricane Irene bypassed the state and spared Michele Bachmann’s first campaign foray in Florida this weekend, but now she has to contend with Hurricane Perry.

Even as the Minnesota congresswoman and presidential candidate courted big crowds as part of a four-day campaign swing through the state, she faces a serious Florida challenge from Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

First of all, she must convince voters she’s preferable to a proven, small-government conservative who shares her evangelical bona fides — but also has executive experience.

On top of that, she faces a Perry campaign already building a formidable Florida organization, while Bachmann’s is barely getting started.

Read more: [Link: www.miamiherald.com...]

For starters, the Everglades is a National Park. No drilling would happen there. Even if she means the unprotected portions, that would potentially lead to environmental damage that not even the sugar producers would entertain or allow.

I consider this pandering of the first order, and she'll say anything to try and get a vote no matter how stupid or insane it may be.

254 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:52:46am

re: #252 darthstar

Just divide by i.

I love imaginary numbers.

255 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:53:36am

re: #254 b_sharp

I love imaginary numbers.

except in this case, 'i' represents insanity numbers. :)

256 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:54:37am

re: #254 b_sharp

I love imaginary numbers.

It's not an imaginary number it's the Letter "i"

257 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:56:35am

re: #248 b_sharp

I believe that's the PSF - politician spin factor. Perry to Bachmann would be a 10x PSF. The other way would be a .1 PSF.

258 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:57:18am

I was told there would be no theoretical math.

259 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:57:46am

re: #253 lawhawk

How else is she going to get gasoline down to $2.00 per gallon as she promised? Ablolishing the federal gasoline tax would only cut 18 cents per gallon...

260 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:57:55am

re: #258 ggt

I was told there would be no theoretical math.

They LIED. ("They" tend to do that)

261 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:58:12am

re: #258 ggt

I was told there would be no theoretical math.

A key element in creative accounting...

262 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:58:27am

How does a crayon work?

263 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:59:02am

re: #259 ralphieboy

How else is she going to get gasoline down to $2.00 per gallon as she promised? Ablolishing the federal gasoline tax would only cut 18 cents per gallon...

Ah, with a crayon!

264 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:01:51pm

re: #245 Alexzander

OT:

Are you a grad student at the moment (I think I knew this at one point but I've forgotten)?

Not at the moment, no. Maybe in a couple years, but not at present. I believe you are though. What are you studying, again?

265 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:03:18pm

re: #243 blueraven

If it was a joke, its almost worse. People died, property was damaged or destroyed. It is going to cost a fortune. How is this funny?

Sociopaths laugh at the weirdest things.

266 Alexzander  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:05:54pm

re: #264 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Not at the moment, no. Maybe in a couple years, but not at present. I believe you are though. What are you studying, again?

Not at the moment either. I have a masters in philosophy; my interested are in philosophy of mind, philosophy of language and philosophy of psychiatry.

Recently however I've been reading more continental/existential philosophy.

I may well end up in grad. school again in the next few years.

268 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:08:53pm

re: #267 Varek Raith

Rep. Dan Lungren Challenged By Constituent For His Oath To Grover Norquist, A Corporate Lobbyist

I love that clip. That constituent was awesome.

269 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:13:37pm

Fox News Publishes Ill-Advised Calls To End The National Weather Service

270 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:15:33pm

33 now confirmed dead from Irene. And the flooding continues in some areas at historic levels.

271 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:15:55pm

re: #266 Alexzander

Not at the moment either. I have a masters in philosophy; my interested are in philosophy of mind, philosophy of language and philosophy of psychiatry.

Recently however I've been reading more continental/existential philosophy.

I may well end up in grad. school again in the next few years.


Books by my Existential Psych prof.

272 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:16:04pm

re: #269 Varek Raith

Fox News Publishes Ill-Advised Calls To End The National Weather Service

We need to be on equal footing with Thailand?

273 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:16:53pm

re: #271 b_sharp


Books by my Existential Psych prof.

This one looks good:

Clinical Orthopaedics and Related Research Number Two Hundred Seventy Five, Number 275, February 1992 : The Distal Radioulnar Joint

274 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:19:25pm

re: #273 ggt

This one looks good:

That ain't him. He died in the '80s.

Jumped off a building.

275 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:19:28pm

re: #270 lawhawk

33 now confirmed dead from Irene. And the flooding continues in some areas at historic levels.

The trees seem to be sending a message -- perhaps that they are more powerful than Irene?

Seems most of the victims of were people well into their adult years. One 11 year old --so sad.

Think how much worse it would have been without the National Weather Service. I sick of the "it was all hype" news coverage.

276 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:19:54pm

re: #274 b_sharp

That ain't him. He died in the '80s.

Jumped off a building.

Life is relative, I guess.

277 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:19:57pm

re: #266 Alexzander

Oh! I misread you, sorry about that. Continental/existential is probably my favorite. I did really enjoy postmodernism, too, though I found my peers ended up treating it as something to believe rather than something to read and learn about. :/

Ah, grad school.

278 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:20:39pm

re: #276 ggt

Life is relative, I guess.

He was an existentialist.

279 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:20:55pm

re: #277 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Oh! I misread you, sorry about that. Continental/existential is probably my favorite. I did really enjoy postmodernism, too, though I found my peers ended up treating it as something to believe rather than something to read and learn about. :/

Ah, grad school.

geez, I'm still trying to get thru Plato's Republic.

I'm only a few centuries behind you guys.

280 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:21:23pm

re: #277 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Oh! I misread you, sorry about that. Continental/existential is probably my favorite. I did really enjoy postmodernism, too, though I found my peers ended up treating it as something to believe rather than something to read and learn about. :/

Ah, grad school.

I thought PM was a religion.

281 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:21:54pm

re: #273 ggt

This one looks good:

Is that even English????
/

282 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:22:17pm

re: #280 b_sharp

I thought PM was a religion.

Ha, well, in my book, people will make religion out of anything.

283 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:22:28pm

re: #281 Varek Raith

Is that even English???
/

I understood it.

284 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:23:08pm

re: #269 Varek Raith

Fox News Publishes Ill-Advised Calls To End The National Weather Service

I'm running out of words here. Damn, what a bunch of fucking idiots.

285 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:24:35pm

re: #279 ggt

geez, I'm still trying to get thru Plato's Republic.

I'm only a few centuries behind you guys.

Read Plato, Aristotle and Heraclitus and you've covered all the bases.

286 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:24:38pm

Let's see, the trees got Sonny Bono and who else?

Yeah, I think they are almost as powerful as the Cat Overlord. If they were more powerful, they wouldn't let cat's climb them.

287 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:24:38pm

re: #284 Gus 802

I'm running out of words here. Damn, what a bunch of fucking idiots.

There's quite a bit of pushback on the FoxNews comments section.

288 Alexzander  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:25:14pm

re: #271 b_sharp


Books by my Existential Psych prof.

Cool..

I almost began an MA in existential-phenomenological counselling psychology here in Seattle but I really dont want to be 60,000 dollars in debt without a guaranteed career path. The Existential orientation isn't taken as seriously by people outside of the tradition.

289 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:25:28pm

re: #284 Gus 802

I'm running out of words here. Damn, what a bunch of fucking idiots.

Those words worked.

290 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:26:03pm

re: #287 Varek Raith

There's quite a bit of pushback on the FoxNews comments section.

So what's next? You want to cut USGS from monitoring earthquakes world wide? NOAA and USGS both provide the most overall complete sources of weather and seismic monitoring services on the planet. Apparently those of you that are not educated enough to know that the global network of monitoring stations provide the raw data freely to the private weather services and they develop their own models taken directly from this data. No commercial enterprise could afford nor compete to replace these stations. NOAA, USGS, and NASA are actually 3 government agencies that are worth the money we spend on them.

Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

291 Henchman 25  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:26:22pm

re: #249 Gus 802

Freddy Krueger?

//

Naw, it can't be him. He's been doing his guest shot in Mortal Kombat.
//

292 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:26:43pm

re: #285 b_sharp

Read Plato, Aristotle and Heraclitus and you've covered all the bases.

I figured.

I kinda liked the "chair is only a chair because we all agree it is a chair" guy. Can't remember his name --had to read him in college.

Reminded me of Thoreau when he was imprisoned for debt. "The difference being the wall, some people think I want to be on the other side of it". (to paraphrase)

293 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:27:40pm

re: #290 Varek Raith

Can't we add the National Park Service?

294 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:28:01pm

re: #290 Varek Raith

There's quite a bit of pushback on the FoxNews comments section.

So what's next? You want to cut USGS from monitoring earthquakes world wide? NOAA and USGS both provide the most overall complete sources of weather and seismic monitoring services on the planet. Apparently those of you that are not educated enough to know that the global network of monitoring stations provide the raw data freely to the private weather services and they develop their own models taken directly from this data. No commercial enterprise could afford nor compete to replace these stations. NOAA, USGS, and NASA are actually 3 government agencies that are worth the money we spend on them.

Pffft. Just a liberal socialist troll.

/

295 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:28:21pm

re: #288 Alexzander

Cool..

I almost began an MA in existential-phenomenological counselling psychology here in Seattle but I really dont want to be 60,000 dollars in debt without a guaranteed career path. The Existential orientation isn't taken as seriously by people outside of the tradition.

Dick, and a couple of his grad students, helped me through an ... interesting ... time.

296 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:28:39pm

re: #290 Varek Raith

That sounds too intelligent for a regular Fox News reader.

297 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:31:28pm

re: #296 Gus 802

That sounds too intelligent for a regular Fox News reader.

Yeah, there's also a lot of derpiness too.

298 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:33:16pm

I love this level of derp.

There is a very successful private TV channel dedicated to it, 24 hours a day, as well as any number of phone and PC apps. Americans need not be forced to turn over part of their earnings to support weather reporting.

And where do you think they get all their data from?
Why, the National Weather Service!
DERP

299 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:34:24pm

re: #298 Varek Raith

I love this level of derp.

And where do you think they get all their data from?
Why, the National Weather Service!
DERP

Bachman has a special hot line to her constitutency on Mars. They look up in the sky and tell her what is coming our way.

300 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:35:17pm

re: #298 Varek Raith

I love this level of derp.

And where do you think they get all their data from?
Why, the National Weather Service!
DERP

You have to wonder if some of those people's skulls made hard contact with large rocks or suffered severe oxygen deprivation at one time or another.

301 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:35:25pm

re: #298 Varek Raith

I love this level of derp.

And where do you think they get all their data from?
Why, the National Weather Service!
DERP

Of course, the fools who wrote that article are from the CEI.
Lol, blithering idiocy.

302 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:35:28pm

re: #199 blueraven

Yeah, I always like to do that with most grains. Even rice dishes are always better to me with a little toasting.

He does toast some nuts and sesame seeds.

Most of the recipes from my one cookbook always recommends toasting the nuts or grains before use to bring the flavor out - sesame seeds, rolled oats, almond slivers, etc. etc.

303 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:36:19pm

re: #302 oaktree

Most of the recipes from my one cookbook always recommends toasting the nuts or grains before use to bring the flavor out - sesame seeds, rolled oats, almond slivers, etc. etc.

Toasted Bachmann?

I don't know oaktree.

304 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:36:22pm

re: #297 Varek Raith

Yeah, there's also a lot of derpiness too.

The Competitive Enterprise Institute is probably worse than the CATO Institute in their derpiness. Typical reactionary libertarianism. Both are darlings of Fox "news".

305 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:36:27pm

re: #290 Varek Raith

Why do they hate our uniformed services? (Part of NOAA is the smallest service, just after the US Public Health Service. Those members are considered veterans.)

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

306 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:37:16pm

re: #298 Varek Raith

I love this level of derp.

And where do you think they get all their data from?
Why, the National Weather Service!
DERP

Absolutely. Including commercial and private pilots. These people are dumber than dumb. It's truly pathetic.

307 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:37:19pm

re: #305 Decatur Deb

Why do they hate our uniformed services? (Part of NOAA is the smallest service, just after the US Public Health Service. Those members are considered veterans.)

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Yep.
Hey CEI?
Guess who flies those planes into hurricanes?

308 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:37:33pm

re: #305 Decatur Deb

Why do they hate our uniformed services? (Part of NOAA is the smallest service, just after the US Public Health Service. Those members are considered veterans.)

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Fully-Automatic Meteorologists?

309 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:38:45pm

re: #300 makeitstop

You have to wonder if some of those people's skulls made hard contact with large rocks or suffered severe oxygen deprivation at one time or another.

If they had rocks in their head it might be an improvement. At least then there would be some kind of mass. Right now I'm just seeing a vast void.

310 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:39:36pm

re: #308 ggt

Fully-Automatic Meteorologists?

*Tosses complicatedweatherterminology grenade*

311 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:42:55pm

I gotta go.

Been on a Gaga bent today.

I think the GOP is caught in a Bad Romance with itself.

Have a great afternoon all!

312 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:44:32pm

re: #310 Varek Raith

*Tosses complicatedweatherterminology grenade*

Watched this NOAA ship transit the Bosphorus, headed into the Black Sea. Really looked like a spook, probably to the Soviets, as well.

[Link: www.moc.noaa.gov...]

313 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:45:35pm

Great use for the 'pencil' feature--it just let me attach a forgotten link.

314 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:45:37pm

re: #275 ggt

It's hype alright - $10 billion+ damage estimates (and likely to go above that). 33 dead, which is putting it among the deadliest hurricanes of the past 20 years to hit the US. And millions without power.

Yeah, it was all hype because NYC is still on the map and on the grid.

I don't think anyone pimping these "Irene was just hype" stories quite realizes just how lucky NYC truly was that Irene wasn't even just a little stronger.

315 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:46:25pm

Death Toll, from Irene has increased. Now 42 dead, with 11 missing.

36 of the dead are in the US, and 3 of the missing are Americans too.

316 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:46:27pm

BTW: Here's a photo of her on Mars:

Image: 6045994357_b0b9df8a79_z.jpg

So Charlie may not be exaggerating in his description.

317 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:48:01pm

re: #316 reuven

BTW: Here's a photo of her on Mars:

Image: 6045994357_b0b9df8a79_z.jpg

So Charlie may not be exaggerating in his description.

If her political career ever blows, she can always turn to porn.

318 reine.de.tout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:48:54pm

re: #314 lawhawk

It's hype alright - $10 billion+ damage estimates (and likely to go above that). 33 dead, which is putting it among the deadliest hurricanes of the past 20 years to hit the US. And millions without power.

Yeah, it was all hype because NYC is still on the map and on the grid.

I don't think anyone pimping these "Irene was just hype" stories quite realizes just how lucky NYC truly was that Irene wasn't even just a little stronger.

"The hype" keeps more people safe than might otherwise happen.

319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:49:06pm

re: #316 reuven

All of my martian sex fantasies just died. Thanks.

320 Gus  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:49:57pm

re: #307 Varek Raith

Yep.
Hey CEI?
Guess who flies those planes into hurricanes?

We used to have a CEI tool member at LGF by the name of Lee Doren.

321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:50:08pm

re: #314 lawhawk

Just a smidge might've made it 20 billion.

322 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:50:57pm

re: #318 reine.de.tout

It goes back to what Kragar wrote:

For those of you playing at home;
Damages < estimates = The government overhyped the risks
Damages > estimates = The government failed to prepare

323 3CPO  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:51:12pm

Just had to share something that made me chuckle. From a comment on SFGate:

"Michelle Bachmann Turner Overdrive"

324 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:52:16pm

re: #317 b_sharp

If her political career ever blows, she can always turn to porn.

No, please... just... no.

325 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:52:26pm

re: #316 reuven

BTW: Here's a photo of her on Mars:

Image: 6045994357_b0b9df8a79_z.jpg

So Charlie may not be exaggerating in his description.

The Sausage Eaters of Mars was my favorite Ray Bradbury book.

326 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 12:52:54pm

re: #318 reine.de.tout

"The hype" keeps more people safe than might otherwise happen.

Speaking of which, did you intend to downding this? I believe the article's trying to make the same point you did just now...

327 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:02:05pm

Satellite imagery of Irene from formation through its exodus through Canada:

Youtube Video
328 darthstar  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:04:07pm

McCain, who went from his claims that illegal immigrants come to America to cause accidents on our freeways to claiming that they come to America to start wild fires, is of course refusing to apologize after two 'legal' Americans were arrested.

McCain’s office has told the press he won’t apologize and say his earlier remarks were not specific to this fire but merely that perhaps illegal immigrants cause fires.

In June 2011, Arizona Senator John McCain inappropriately blamed the Arizona fire blazes on “illegal” immigrants, and he has failed to apologize even though there was no factual evidence the fires were started by immigrants. New information has come full circle where we learnt two “legal” Arizona citizens face federal charges

329 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:06:33pm

Here's something interesting for those who follow the climate debate.

Often times, "skeptics" talk about how one piece of evidence of "fraud" among climate scientists is that their posts get cut from some sites like Real Climate. They offer up a site like What's Up With That as evidence of how "skeptics" are open to debate from those that disagree with them.

Well I just had an interesting exchange with Anthony Watts - the blogger at WUWT, where he made a completely false accusation about me:

Note the policy page. Note there I state WUWT has a low tolerance level for people using taxpayer funded resources to spout snark from the comfort of anonymity. – Anthony

Check out Anthony's meltdown, here:

[Link: wattsupwiththat.com...]

Now Anthony drew a conclusion, with no evidence (he concluded from my email address that I was posting, or that I have ever posted, while being paid for my work at an academic institution), and made a false accusation as a result. When I pointed out his error, by stating that he had made a false accusation, and that his definition of "coward," (he had earlier called me a coward because I post anonymously) was rather peculiar - as making false accusations without evidence seems pretty cowardly to me - he wouldn't post the response, and apparently I've been banned.

Now what is more "cowardly" than making a false accusation on his blog and then not allowing for a response?

330 laZardo  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:07:31pm

Good afternoon folks.

So I'm reading this and I'd like to put this out there that part of the reason I tend to be dickish about religion is that I honestly do not believe that "good things come back to those that do them."

331 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:08:59pm

re: #327 lawhawk

Satellite imagery of Irene from formation through its exodus through Canada:

It was the sheer size of the thing that blew (no pun intended) me away.

Check out this photo I just found on the weather network. It looks like the approaching motherships from V or Independence Day o_O

332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:10:58pm

re: #330 laZardo

I disagree, buddy. Even without religion, people who do good things tend to be rewarded with in-kind goodness.

Do do-gooders get mugged and stabbed and shot and their entrails ripped out? Sure.

But the do-gooders that I know are generally happier types of folks.

My two cents.

333 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:11:10pm

re: #331 publicityStunted

It was the sheer size of the thing that blew (no pun intended) me away.

Check out this photo I just found on the weather network. It looks like the approaching motherships from V or Independence Day o_O

Yes...looks...
*Way to not activate the cloak Varek*

334 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:11:43pm

re: #331 publicityStunted

Great shot.

335 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:12:20pm

re: #298 Varek Raith

I love this level of derp.

And where do you think they get all their data from?
Why, the National Weather Service!
DERP

"Such derp exists?"
"I assure you, it exists."

336 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:12:23pm

re: #329 Talking Point Detective

Here's something interesting for those who follow the climate debate.

Often times, "skeptics" talk about how one piece of evidence of "fraud" among climate scientists is that their posts get cut from some sites like Real Climate. They offer up a site like What's Up With That as evidence of how "skeptics" are open to debate from those that disagree with them.

Well I just had an interesting exchange with Anthony Watts - the blogger at WUWT, where he made a completely false accusation about me:

Check out Anthony's meltdown, here:

[Link: wattsupwiththat.com...]

Now Anthony drew a conclusion, with no evidence (he concluded from my email address that I was posting, or that I have ever posted, while being paid for my work at an academic institution), and made a false accusation as a result. When I pointed out his error, by stating that he had made a false accusation, and that his definition of "coward," (he had earlier called me a coward because I post anonymously) was rather peculiar - as making false accusations without evidence seems pretty cowardly to me - he wouldn't post the response, and apparently I've been banned.

Now what is more "cowardly" than making a false accusation on his blog and then not allowing for a response?

Watts is known for that shit. He's continually harping at Tamino about using a nic instead of a real name, although they know his real name. He's more concerned with nic 'fraud' than skeptic fraud (like Wegman).

337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:14:13pm

re: #331 publicityStunted
Ensign? Bring my brown trousers.

338 laZardo  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:15:38pm

re: #332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

From what I've learned over the course of my lifetime, the philosophy that seems to work the most is "don't get caught." And/or that the definition of "good" is...subjective.

339 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:16:18pm

re: #330 laZardo

Good afternoon folks.

So I'm reading this and I'd like to put this out there that part of the reason I tend to be dickish about religion is that I honestly do not believe that "good things come back to those that do them."

While there is no magic one-for-one karma, the chances of anyone getting a return 'good thing' get a lot better if everyone can be gulled into doing a lot of 'good things'. Reason enough.

340 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:16:20pm

re: #338 laZardo

You're still young, fella. Show kindness; can't hurt.

341 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:17:36pm

re: #329 Talking Point Detective

And btw - he snipped a comment of mine because I posted about Bachmann's statement about Irene being a message from god.

He clipped it because he said my post was

[snip - Way off topic - politics not media - Anthony

Now please note, that was very shortly after the following comment was perfectly acceptable to Anthony.

It’s the aftermath that is more amusing. Obama still thinks Irene is a threat even though it’s not a hurricane any longer and storms do not have a reverse gear.

When I asked him why it's "off topic" and "politics not media" to point out Bachmann's comment, but not to post a comment about Obama, he responded thusly:

Because your comment was not only offtopic, but intended to threadjack, and no matter who was saying it “was a message from God” I’d delete it because we have a policy on the issue, along with discussing HAARP, bigfoot, UFO’s and other such garbage. Get over it. -Anthony

Now notice that the topic of the thread was related to "overhyping" of Irene by the media.

Apparently, reporters in raincoats is overhyping, that is "on topic," but saying that Irene was a message from god is "off topic" overhyping.

Maybe some of you folks would like to pay Anthony a visit?

342 laZardo  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:20:04pm

re: #340 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You're still young, fella. Show kindness; can't hurt.

I do that at work all the time, honestly I do. And the customers do like it. But it's not like my own situation is actually improving, though I am thankful for the paycheck.

343 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:20:21pm

re: #336 b_sharp

Hey - plagiarism by an academic publishing a paper ain't that important. What's important is whether someone who posts comments on a blog uses their real name. It's the mark of whether or not they're a coward.

Because as we all know, we've never seen people who are non-anonymous make irresponsible comments. You know, like that Irene was a message from god.

344 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:21:00pm

re: #330 laZardo

Good afternoon folks.

So I'm reading this and I'd like to put this out there that part of the reason I tend to be dickish about religion is that I honestly do not believe that "good things come back to those that do them."

I tend to ride the line between "no good deed goes unrewarded" and "no good deed goes unpunished", but I still attempt to do the good deed when I can. Even if "good" doesn't come to me for it, at least I've put my own "good" out there.

345 albusteve  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:22:00pm

re: #341 Talking Point Detective

And btw - he snipped a comment of mine because I posted about Bachmann's statement about Irene being a message from god.

He clipped it because he said my post was

Now please note, that was very shortly after the following comment was perfectly acceptable to Anthony.

When I asked him why it's "off topic" and "politics not media" to point out Bachmann's comment, but not to post a comment about Obama, he responded thusly:

Now notice that the topic of the thread was related to "overhyping" of Irene by the media.

Apparently, reporters in raincoats is overhyping, that is "on topic," but saying that Irene was a message from god is "off topic" overhyping.

Maybe some of you folks would like to pay Anthony a visit?

my level of concern is zero...why fuss over such an idiodic pap?

346 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:24:44pm

re: #345 albusteve

my level of concern is zero...why fuss over such an idiodic pap?

He has a large following in the blogosphere. He is a major player in the "denial-o-sphere." You may deem him irrelevant, but in reality he has a fair amount of influence in the climate debate.

347 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:25:23pm

Romney spins....
Romney: Beachfront home is being doubled in size, not quadrupled

Republican presidential candidate and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney pushed back against reports that he was quadrupling the size of his San Diego-area beachfront mansion, telling the New Hampshire Union Leader that he was only doubling the living space.

According to Romney, he plans to add a second floor to the house. The reported "quadrupling" figure accounts for building additional "nonliving" space, including a basement and garage.

348 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:25:24pm

re: #330 laZardo

Good afternoon folks.

So I'm reading this and I'd like to put this out there that part of the reason I tend to be dickish about religion is that I honestly do not believe that "good things come back to those that do them."

There is no karma where good done now is rewarded in kind at a later date, but in a situation where others observe the good, they can and will alter their attitude and interaction towards the 'do-gooder' positively.

349 albusteve  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:26:34pm

re: #346 Talking Point Detective

He has a large following in the blogosphere. He is a major player in the "denial-o-sphere." You may deem him irrelevant, but in reality he has a fair amount of influence in the climate debate.

well then kick his cyber butt

350 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:27:17pm

re: #332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I disagree, buddy. Even without religion, people who do good things tend to be rewarded with in-kind goodness.

Do do-gooders get mugged and stabbed and shot and their entrails ripped out? Sure.

But the do-gooders that I know are generally happier types of folks.

My two cents.

A functional self-fulfilling feedback. Works like a charm.

351 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:28:12pm

re: #349 albusteve

well then kick his cyber butt

Huh?

352 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:30:53pm

re: #346 Talking Point Detective

He has a large following in the blogosphere. He is a major player in the "denial-o-sphere." You may deem him irrelevant, but in reality he has a fair amount of influence in the climate debate.

Just rickroll him constantly with the video here :P

Or spam him with this link:

Willard Anthony Watts (Anthony Watts) is a blogger, weathercaster and non-scientist AGW denier who runs the website wattsupwiththat.com. He does not have a university qualification and has no climate credentials other than being a radio weather announcer.

Then again, for modern right-wingers, that's a feature, not a bug :/

353 laZardo  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:33:42pm

re: #348 b_sharp

There is no karma where good done now is rewarded in kind at a later date, but in a situation where others observe the good, they can and will alter their attitude and interaction towards the 'do-gooder' positively.

Or it could give them something to exploit.

354 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:35:03pm

re: #338 laZardo

From what I've learned over the course of my lifetime, the philosophy that seems to work the most is "don't get caught." And/or that the definition of "good" is...subjective.

The definition of 'good' is malleable and subjective, but each localized pocket of a culture generally agrees with a definition. You will likely have a definition based on what you were taught, or if lucky, developed as an adult. Doing good by those definitions will make you feel better about yourself and you'll get a positive response from others.

'Don't get caught' is overly cynical.

355 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:35:47pm

re: #329 Talking Point Detective

Now what is more "cowardly" than making a false accusation on his blog and then not allowing for a response?

Lol how else are they going to win unless they lie about you, and cheat to make themselves look either victimized (he's posting using taxpayer resources, boo hoo!!), or like you're the one with the problem? On a smaller scale, I had one try and pull some shyt like that the other day in comments.

Fundamentally dishonest people. And yeah, fundamentally cowardly.

356 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:36:26pm

re: #341 Talking Point Detective

And btw - he snipped a comment of mine because I posted about Bachmann's statement about Irene being a message from god.

He clipped it because he said my post was

Now please note, that was very shortly after the following comment was perfectly acceptable to Anthony.

When I asked him why it's "off topic" and "politics not media" to point out Bachmann's comment, but not to post a comment about Obama, he responded thusly:

Now notice that the topic of the thread was related to "overhyping" of Irene by the media.

Apparently, reporters in raincoats is overhyping, that is "on topic," but saying that Irene was a message from god is "off topic" overhyping.

Maybe some of you folks would like to pay Anthony a visit?

I've done that in the past, as myself, but only ended up feeling dirty.

357 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:38:31pm

re: #332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But the do-gooders that I know are generally happier types of folks.

My two cents.

Interesting. I agree. I've noticed that cutthroats, opportunists, and the like are quite miserable people.

358 laZardo  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:39:23pm

re: #354 b_sharp

The definition of 'good' is malleable and subjective, but each localized pocket of a culture generally agrees with a definition. You will likely have a definition based on what you were taught, or if lucky, developed as an adult. Doing good by those definitions will make you feel better about yourself and you'll get a positive response from others.

'Don't get caught' is overly cynical.


Guess I was a bit unlucky then.

I do believe in "healthy" and "unhealthy" behavior within a society though. More of "When in Rome."

359 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:39:25pm

re: #345 albusteve

my level of concern is zero...why fuss over such an idiodic pap?

That idiotic pap is just one of far too many anti-science douches with access to law makers.

360 darthstar  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:39:33pm

re: #349 albusteve

well then kick his cyber butt

I love it when you flex your avatar like that.

361 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:40:00pm

re: #352 publicityStunted

Just rickroll him constantly with

362 albusteve  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:41:25pm

re: #359 b_sharp

That idiotic pap is just one of far too many anti-science douches with access to law makers.

right...go over there and toss him...and report back soon
good hunting

363 laZardo  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:41:43pm

Headan to work. BBL

364 Alexzander  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:42:58pm

re: #363 laZardo

Headan to work. BBL

Have a good shift!

365 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:43:00pm

re: #361 Talking Point Detective

Sorry - I meant to post that I had to look up "rickroll." But I guess I can't do that now that I've been banned.

366 albusteve  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:43:21pm

re: #360 darthstar

I love it when you flex your avatar like that.

speaking of which...back to the meat world

367 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:48:38pm

re: #358 laZardo


Guess I was a bit unlucky then.

I do believe in "healthy" and "unhealthy" behavior within a society though. More of "When in Rome."

Yes, shit happens. I grew up as an abused child, my wife grew up as an abused second class pariah because of her ancestry, but both of us had to make a decision - be bitter and hateful, or say fuckit and do what we can for our family, ourselves and even others.

368 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:51:33pm

re: #343 Talking Point Detective

Hey - plagiarism by an academic publishing a paper ain't that important. What's important is whether someone who posts comments on a blog uses their real name. It's the mark of whether or not they're a coward.

Because as we all know, we've never seen people who are non-anonymous make irresponsible comments. You know, like that Irene was a message from god.

Honestly, sometimes anonymity is the only way some people can blog about some topics. Here's an example of what can happen when someone blogs under their real name on a contentious issue.

369 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:54:09pm

re: #368 Dark_Falcon

Honestly, sometimes anonymity is the only way some people can blog about some topics. Here's an example of what can happen when someone blogs under their real name on a contentious issue.

That was definitely the case when my father was still alive. Some of the church people he was in contact with are quite vicious (New Apostolic Reformation adherents.)

They don't scare me, but the concern was for him, since I could not be there to protect him from them.

370 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 1:58:22pm

re: #367 b_sharp

Yes, shit happens. I grew up as an abused child, my wife grew up as an abused second class pariah because of her ancestry, but both of us had to make a decision - be bitter and hateful, or say fuckit and do what we can for our family, ourselves and even others.

True, and sometimes, doing for others helps put one's own spot in perspective. One learns you're not alone, that there are people in similar situations.

371 im_gumby_damnit  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 2:01:52pm

The "holier than thou" approach has a limited appeal. Basically, it appeals to the "holier than thou" crowd. I keep telling people that republicans should stop lecturing about family values, religious principles and morals. They're not very good at "walking the walk."

372 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 2:03:58pm

re: #369 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

That was definitely the case when my father was still alive. Some of the church people he was in contact with are quite vicious (New Apostolic Reformation adherents.)

They don't scare me, but the concern was for him, since I could not be there to protect him from them.

Sorry that happened to him. Those folks do seem rather insecure for all their talk of literal Biblical reading.

373 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 2:09:39pm

re: #372 Dark_Falcon

Sorry that happened to him. Those folks do seem rather insecure for all their talk of literal Biblical reading.

Yeah, some days, I really had to put on my "Religious Studies Grad Student" hat when dealing with them. That did help, as in the times I would have to explain to skilled nursing staff, yeah the talk about demons, apocalyptic ends of the world (he had a psychotic episode where he would not go to a critical appointment, refusing to leave the room because the antichrist was outside; wouldn't "let" me leave, either ) and travel to other locales while "in the spirit" is not just dementia. He's been talking that way for about half his adult life. :/

It's hard to advocate for someone so vulnerable, yet with such venal, self-harming ideas. But with the help of friends and a family member, I got through it. Thx for the kind words.

374 im_gumby_damnit  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 2:15:10pm

re: #49 Charleston Chew

Here's a list of the people God murdered in a misguided effort to get us to reduce government spending. He's a small government serial killer:

Not a particularly funny joke.

But seriously, in a hurricane don't drive and stay away from water and trees.

Very sad really.

375 Achilles Tang  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 2:22:43pm

re: #251 bloodstar

Not at all!

She's just using the same screwy logic that lets people make 'jokes' about Jews, Blacks, Handicapped, Gays, or whatever other mean spirited joke bigoted comment - that they later wonder what the big deal was because they were only 'joking'.

Note: I'm not saying that Bachmann is a bigot based on this particular joke, just that it's wrong to claim that *only* an atheist would say that is a fallacy.

I was joking, not!

No fundamentalist like Bachmann takes the Lord's name in vain as a joke, suggesting a god is concerned about national economics. Gays maybe, but not spending.

And I would add, she is not a bigot in this, she just believes that crap; after all her god told her to run for president.

376 Achilles Tang  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 2:24:27pm

re: #369 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

That was definitely the case when my father was still alive. Some of the church people he was in contact with are quite vicious (New Apostolic Reformation adherents.)

They don't scare me, but the concern was for him, since I could not be there to protect him from them.

I find people who come up with self defining labels like "New Apostolic Reformation adherents" quite scary.

377 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:44:41pm

re: #376 Naso Tang

I find people who come up with self defining labels like "New Apostolic Reformation adherents" quite scary.

Well, the "adherents" part is my term. But they do not scare me, because I scare them; their entire lifestyle revolves around devising various ways of suppressing folks like me.

And I'm a person who would harm no one...that in itself is quite threatening. I can't respect that.


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