Lord, the day is at hand. We are in the last days. You are a Jehovah God. We know that the times are in your hands. And we give them to you…The day is at hand, Lord, when your return will come nigh. Nothing is more important than bringing sheep into the fold. Than bringing new life into the kingdom…You have weeded that garden. The harvest is at hand.
— Michele Bachmann
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jaunte Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:25:41pm |
She can run, but she can't hide.
Slate’s Dave Weigel has reported an audio recording of Bachmann praying for the notoriously anti-gay ministry You Can Run But You Can’t Hide, run by the radical preacher Bradlee Dean. Bachmann offered the prayer in 2006 (though the recording was uploaded in 2008). In it, Bachmann predicts, “We are in the last days,” and says, “The harvest is at hand” — a Biblical allusion to the Rapture when some believe God will take saved Christians from the earth and leave the non-believers to face several years of torment and tribulation before the second coming of Christ.
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
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jaunte Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:28:21pm |
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Stanghazi Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:29:28pm |
oh my fucking dog. This freak is running for president.
And no one of the Republican Sanity group says a word.
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Lidane Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:30:12pm |
So, remember this story that Charles posted?
Climate Change Denier Patrick Michaels: 'It's Doubtful Irene Will Even Cough Up 8 Bodies'
I wonder how they will spin this:
Irene’s death toll jumps to 40 in U.S. as millions wait for power
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:30:13pm |
re: #5 Stanley Sea
oh my fucking dog. This freak is running for president.
And no one of the Republican Sanity group says a word.
Ah go on. You just made that group up. If it ever existed...
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engineer cat Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:31:52pm |
Nothing is more important than bringing sheep
and mark ye well, when tribulation lies heavy upon the land, the weak of will will distract themselves with babbling and fantasies of salvation, and the tough will go shopping
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:33:59pm |
Lord, the day is at hand. We are in the last days.
Sorry but anyone who legislates according to this belief is too incompetent for any kind of office except the church office.
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Stanghazi Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:34:08pm |
Good night, I'm out. Hopefully M. Bachmann's words will not circle my brain tonight.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:34:39pm |
re: #8 engineer dog
Nothing is more important than bringing sheep
and mark ye well, when tribulation lies heavy upon the land, the weak of will will distract themselves with babbling and fantasies of salvation, and the tough will go shopping
I'll go shopping, anytime, anywhere!
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:35:03pm |
FRANK rules!
Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:35:14pm |
Aww, you commie librulz are just afraid of attractive conservative women! ///
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Targetpractice Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:36:09pm |
re: #6 Lidane
So, remember this story that Charles posted?
Climate Change Denier Patrick Michaels: 'It's Doubtful Irene Will Even Cough Up 8 Bodies'
I wonder how they will spin this:
Irene’s death toll jumps to 40 in U.S. as millions wait for power
So long as nobody questions them about it, we're not likely to see any spin. It'll just be quietly swept under the rug.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:37:54pm |
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Targetpractice Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:38:40pm |
re: #14 imp_62
Ya gotta love medical science. One day, they tell you to avoid something because it promotes disease, then the next day tell you to indulge in it, because it actually fights a different disease. The overall message seems to be the same in every case: moderation.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:41:01pm |
Fuck you lady, there are no last days, superstitious PT Barnum bullshit, go have yourself a rendezvous with Oral Roberts and join the circus where you belong
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:41:26pm |
re: #17 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Ya gotta love medical science. One day, they tell you to avoid something because it promotes disease, then the next day tell you to indulge in it, because it actually fights a different disease. The overall message seems to be the same in every case: moderation.
I read this completely differently. Medical professionals have always preached moderation. These are the same people who spent decades telling us how bad chocolate, caffeine and booze are for us. I say: If one truffle is good for me, 5 are better. If one cup of coffee as health benefits, then 8 will make me fucking invincible.
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:42:34pm |
re: #19 WindUpBird
Fuck you lady, there are no last days, superstitious PT Barnum bullshit, go have yourself a rendezvous with Oral Roberts and join the circus where you belong
Whoa, easy WUB. Look at the time; take a deep breath. Too late to get all worked up. Bachmann will still be crazy tomorrow. :)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:44:34pm |
re: #21 imp_62
Whoa, easy WUB. Look at the time; take a deep breath. Too late to get all worked up. Bachmann will still be crazy tomorrow. :)
lol, I have a 4 hour drive ahead of me tonight, full of zippy turbocharged farvergnugen and weird rock :D
But seriously, I just have this feeling of throwing up my hands. Someone who wants to be president, who says this? With a straight face? Unreal
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:44:41pm |
re: #20 imp_62
I read this completely differently. Medical professionals have always preached moderation. These are the same people who spent decades telling us how bad chocolate, caffeine and booze are for us. I say: If one truffle is good for me, 5 are better. If one cup of coffee as health benefits, then 8 will make me fucking invincible.
FRESH coffee, cream and sugar!
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:46:24pm |
re: #24 ggt
FRESH coffee, cream and sugar!
I take mine cream, no sugar. And none of that creamer crap, either. Cream or milk.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:47:17pm |
This is still the most amazing scene I've witnessed --even tho it was on youtube.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:47:38pm |
re: #26 imp_62
I take mine cream, no sugar. And none of that creamer crap, either. Cream or milk.
Real half and half or nothing!
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:47:49pm |
re: #7 imp_62
Ah go on. You just made that group up. If it ever existed...
My mother says when she was a young woman, Republicans were, like, moderate, and normal, and ,many of them had good ideas.
"They were just the other guys," she says, "but they weren't insane like this bunch."
It must have been nice, then.
(Aside from, you know, Vietnam, and Kent State, and Manson, and all the other stuff that wasn't nice.)
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:47:52pm |
re: #23 WindUpBird
lol, I have a 4 hour drive ahead of me tonight, full of zippy turbocharged farvergnugen and weird rock :D
But seriously, I just have this feeling of throwing up my hands. Someone who wants to be president, who says this? With a straight face? Unreal
Two best bands to drive to IMHO, and from different eras:
Ram Jam
Animal Collective
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:47:52pm |
re: #3 jaunte
She can run, but she can't hide.
Audio:
Quoted part in OP is around 1:25
Very typical Charismawhacko prayer, full of repeated clichés and wornout Biblical metaphors. 9_9
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:49:16pm |
re: #17 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Ya gotta love medical science. One day, they tell you to avoid something because it promotes disease, then the next day tell you to indulge in it, because it actually fights a different disease. The overall message seems to be the same in every case: moderation.
I hope so, because that's the only takeaway message I'm getting. I swear to God, most foods at this point have been identified as something that will both raise and decrease your chances of getting heart disease.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:50:09pm |
re: #22 imp_62
btw any medical professionals on here atm?
I'm training to be a family and couples counselor, and my mother fondly believes I am a medical professional because of this.
How may I make shit up about your innards today?
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:50:33pm |
Hi SFZ. Nice to see you. Were you on that thread earlier with that wacko JohnCarroll?
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:50:59pm |
re: #35 imp_62
Hi SFZ. Nice to see you. Were you on that thread earlier with that wacko JohnCarroll?
No, I've been at a job training in Cupertino all day.
What happened?
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:51:41pm |
re: #31 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Audio:
[Video]Quoted part in OP is around 1:25
Very typical Charismawhacko prayer, full of repeated clichés and wornout Biblical metaphors. 9_9
Mind Bleach warning!
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:53:11pm |
re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm training to be a family and couples counselor, and my mother fondly believes I am a medical professional because of this.
How may I make shit up about your innards today?
lmao. I got a letter about joining a medical study in NYC. 9 trips over 10 months, non-invasive (except for some meaningless IV saline/iron) travel expenses reimbursed and $750 for my trouble. What do the lizards think? 9 paid trips to the big city, see friends and eat deli.
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:54:15pm |
re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist
No, I've been at a job training in Cupertino all day.
What happened?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Enjoy
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:54:19pm |
Someone explain to me what 'a Jehovah God' is, please? That's not an adjective, it's a name.
A rather weird attempt to Latinize a name we don't attempt to pronounce in my tradition, mind you, but a name. Not an adjective.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:55:16pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:56:40pm |
re: #38 imp_62
lmao. I got a letter about joining a medical study in NYC. 9 trips over 10 months, non-invasive (except for some meaningless IV saline/iron) travel expenses reimbursed and $750 for my trouble. What do the lizards think? 9 paid trips to the big city, see friends and eat deli.
Sounds OK to me, if you have the time. Might be fun.
I'd ask your general practitioner, just to make sure the people carrying out the study are legit.
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:57:56pm |
re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist
Sounds OK to me, if you have the time. Might be fun.
I'd ask your general practitioner, just to make sure the people carrying out the study are legit.
It's at NYU Med. My GP is a flaky California exile former pothead. I barely see him.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:58:27pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:58:57pm |
re: #43 imp_62
It's at NYU Med. My GP is a flaky California exile former pothead. I barely see him.
Eh, I would say go for it then.
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:59:23pm |
WUB you leave yet? I have this sudden curiousity about where you are going at half past dark.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:00:20pm |
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:01:05pm |
re: #45 SanFranciscoZionist
Eh, I would say go for it then.
ANd it might get me off the hook from my wife bugging me to get a real check-up ;] They asked me cause I have donated a lot of blood and platelets over the years. This is the big payoff for sitting around endlessly with needles in my arms.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:01:55pm |
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:03:05pm |
re: #49 ggt
'night. And I agree, I think that may have been the last time the anthem was sung properly at a Super Bowl
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:04:06pm |
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Timmeh Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:04:43pm |
re: #6 Lidane
So, remember this story that Charles posted?
Climate Change Denier Patrick Michaels: 'It's Doubtful Irene Will Even Cough Up 8 Bodies'
I wonder how they will spin this:
Irene’s death toll jumps to 40 in U.S. as millions wait for power
And what's wrong with these people?
Refunds demanded
Since Saturday, Irene has been downgraded from a hurricane to a tropical storm and now a post-tropical cyclone.
Some Americans who bought candles, canned food and other emergency provisions in recent days have been demanding refunds, claiming Irene's threat was exaggerated.
Those people need to get a life.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:05:18pm |
re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist
He's still going. How long has this thread been going ON?
I don't have the strength, and if y'all didn't get through, I'm sure as hell not going to rehash it all again.
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:05:31pm |
re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist
He's still going. How long has this thread been going ON?
Jeebus. The dude just won't shut up.
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:07:02pm |
re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't have the strength, and if y'all didn't get through, I'm sure as hell not going to rehash it all again.
He's a sock puppet. As Bob Levin put it, he is simply Jew baiting. I deemed him a troll but still coldn't stay away. But now I couldn't care less. One more anti-Semite doesn't tip the scale one way or another.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:07:09pm |
re: #53 Timmeh
And what's wrong with these people?
Those people need to get a life.
Uh, now they have canned goods and candles. They can use them now, or consider that they've created the beginnings of an emergency kit.
It's not like they were told to buy enormous amounts of fresh fruit, or subway sandwiches.
Seriously, shit, the death toll would have been through the roof, except people prepared. "I'm still alive!" is cause for rejoicing, not declaring you were ripped off.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:10:41pm |
Some Palestinian and Palestinian-supportive groups are starting to make noise that they don't want to go through with the statehood bid in September. However this turns out, it's gonna be fascinating.
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:11:27pm |
SO I think I will give the NYU folks a call to see what the deal is with this study. I won't take any pills (except codeine and valium, if they are buying ;] ) and no cutting me open. But BP monitoring and ultrasounds? np.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:12:01pm |
re: #61 imp_62
SO I think I will give the NYU folks a call to see what the deal is with this study. I won't take any pills (except codeine and valium, if they are buying ;] ) and no cutting me open. But BP monitoring and ultrasounds? np.
"No cutting me open" seems like a fair limitation.
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:13:41pm |
re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist
Some Palestinian and Palestinian-supportive groups are starting to make noise that they don't want to go through with the statehood bid in September. However this turns out, it's gonna be fascinating.
I think the entire ME peace process has devolved into farce. My hope is that the Palestinian economy develops at a fast enough pace to make watching TV and porking your best friend's wife more interesting than blowing up Jews.
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:14:44pm |
re: #62 SanFranciscoZionist
"No cutting me open" seems like a fair limitation.
I am nothing if not excellent at setting reasonable boundaries. It's what makes me an excellent parent.
//
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:17:18pm |
Hey SFZ it's just you and me here I think...
Let's raid the liquor cabinet and pay spin the bottle. Unless you aren't female. I which case we have to drink lots before playing...
/
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freetoken Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:19:58pm |
re: #19 WindUpBird
Fuck you lady, there are no last days, superstitious PT Barnum bullshit,...
The concept (and it certainly is a sticky one) is a hold over from the period of Hasmonean period religious groups, including those who would eventually morph into what we call "Christians" of that time.
Christianity has always been strongly apocalyptic, probably because it was founded on these ideas.
And, for those in Judea who were living in the area in the 1st century, "the end" did come, in 70AD.
However, in the succeeding 19 centuries many people have found it in their interests to pretend the apocalyptic language wasn't about the turmoil of that age (even though apparently Jesus explicitly told them it would all occur in his hearers' own lifetimes.)
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:21:29pm |
re: #67 freetoken
The concept (and it certainly is a sticky one) is a hold over from the period of Hasmonean period religious groups, including those who would eventually morph into what we call "Christians" of that time.
Christianity has always been strongly apocalyptic, probably because it was founded on these ideas.
And, for those in Judea who were living in the area in the 1st century, "the end" did come, in 70AD.
However, in the succeeding 19 centuries many people have found it in their interests to pretend the apocalyptic language wasn't about the turmoil of that age (even though apparently Jesus explicitly told them it would all occur in his hearers' own lifetimes.)
I did not know that.
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BeenHereAwhile Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:26:17pm |
re: #58 SanFranciscoZionist
Uh, now they have canned goods and candles. They can use them now, or consider that they've created the beginnings of an emergency kit.
It's not like they were told to buy enormous amounts of fresh fruit, or subway sandwiches.
Seriously, shit, the death toll would have been through the roof, except people prepared. "I'm still alive!" is cause for rejoicing, not declaring you were ripped off.
Q: How do you tell if a person has never experienced a category 2, 3, 4, or 5 hurricane?
A: They prepare based upon local media/National Hurricane Center projections, and are disappointed when they miss the drama of the hurricane causing mass destruction of lives and property in their area.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:26:27pm |
re: #63 imp_62
I think the entire ME peace process has devolved into farce. My hope is that the Palestinian economy develops at a fast enough pace to make watching TV and porking your best friend's wife more interesting than blowing up Jews.
For everyone's sake, we can hope. I actually believe that a good and functioning economy is a remarkable peace tool. Which is one reason Hamas destroyed all those greenhouses.
Gaza is going to remain an intractable problem.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:26:57pm |
re: #65 imp_62
Hey SFZ it's just you and me here I think...
Let's raid the liquor cabinet and pay spin the bottle. Unless you aren't female. I which case we have to drink lots before playing...
/
Female. Married. Don't mind drinking...
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:28:22pm |
re: #71 SanFranciscoZionist
Female. Married. Don't mind drinking...
Which reminds me - when are you going to be able to give up teaching and start the counselling business?
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freetoken Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:29:07pm |
re: #68 imp_62
I did not know that.
Assuming the Gospels are even somewhat accurate to what was originally said, Jesus said explicitly, when he was ranting apocalyptically, that those standing right there would be around to see the things of which he spoke.
Most Christians, especially those so caught up into "plain language" and "literal" interpretations, go through cartwheels trying to make the words mean something they don't.
Preterism is the name of the approach that looks on the apocalyptic language (of the Gospels, Revelation, Daniel) as having already taken place. It is both historically relevant and sticks with the meanings of the texts. However, historically, during many times of the last 19 centuries Christians have turned away from the preterist approach towards more fanciful ideas.
This is especially true of what happened at the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th in the US, with the rise of the teachings of the Dispensationalists and the formation of those groups we today think of as the "fundamentalists" in American religion. They really grabbed onto a hard sell wrt Israel and Zionism (and were strong supporters of their interpretation of zionism), and they still do that.
It's a sad, sad story, all too familiar in human societies. Religions serve several purposes, including at times to help people escape the emotional burdens of their every day lives. Anyone who is smart knows how to turn that need into a profitable business, and many have made lots of profits from prophets.
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Targetpractice Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:29:18pm |
re: #53 Timmeh
And what's wrong with these people?
Those people need to get a life.
Oh lord, people, hurricane season's not over yet. And even when it does end, there's always next year and the year after. Hell, there's already Tropical Depression 12, which is expected to be a full-fledged hurricane by Wednesday, and possibly making landfall in the US a week from Saturday.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:30:02pm |
re: #67 freetoken
And, for those in Judea who were living in the area in the 1st century, "the end" did come, in 70AD.
Fred Clark at slacktivist talks about this quite a bit--how the Rapture theologians presume that prophecy in the text is never fulfilled in the text, it's all for this generation.
He talks a bit about the destruction of Jerusalem, and how that relates to the 'mini-apocalypse' in Matthew.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:31:01pm |
re: #68 imp_62
More Christian eschatology: (medical warning-- take some Dramamine prior to reading, because it is certain to make one dizzy)
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:31:52pm |
re: #72 imp_62
Which reminds me - when are you going to be able to give up teaching and start the counselling business?
I'm hoping one happens before the other. I'm looking at a variety of jobs that, while not counseling, are not classroom teaching jobs.
I'll finish the course in the next year and a half, and then I have to do an internship and hours before I can get an MFT license.
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:32:02pm |
re: #76 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
More Christian eschatology: (medical warning-- take some Dramamine prior to reading, because it is certain to make one dizzy)
Favouriting. Will read it later, as I am starting to think I ought to get some sleep. Thanks for the links.
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:32:52pm |
re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm hoping one happens before the other. I'm looking at a variety of jobs that, while not counseling, are not classroom teaching jobs.
I'll finish the course in the next year and a half, and then I have to do an internship and hours before I can get an MFT license.
MFT? MotherFuckin' Therapist?
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freetoken Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:33:08pm |
re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist
I think it is really pretty clear when one just looks at the Gospels without forcing them into certain "orthodox" belief systems.
Jesus and the early Christians were apocalypticists (especially the supposed once-Pharisee Saul/Paul).
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freetoken Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:36:54pm |
re: #79 imp_62
No problem.
These issues have been around the block so many times in the past 20 centuries that if anyone actually takes the time to read a bit of history then it ought to become clear what is going on with American fundamentalists and their fervent devotions.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:37:42pm |
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shutdown Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:37:46pm |
re: #83 freetoken
No problem.
These issues have been around the block so many times in the past 20 centuries that if anyone actually takes the time to read a bit of history then it ought to become clear what is going on with American fundamentalists and their fervent devotions.
Time to re-read Elmer Gantry. Ought to be re-introduced to the High School required reading list.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:39:08pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:41:25pm |
re: #80 imp_62
MFT? MotherFuckin' Therapist?
Marriage and Family Therapist, but I like your version better.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:41:55pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:42:26pm |
re: #85 imp_62
Time to re-read Elmer Gantry. Ought to be re-introduced to the High School required reading list.
The movie is always in my top 3.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:42:33pm |
One of my nieces is in ROTC. The other one may or may not need surgery. Lots is going on.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:49:41pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:50:57pm |
re: #90 SanFranciscoZionist
Best wishes to both!
Nephew started college this week.
He's so very lost, being on his own, for the first time,
it's cute. He's smart & will figure it out.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 29, 2011 11:54:53pm |
re: #92 Floral Giraffe
Best wishes to both!
Nephew started college this week.
He's so very lost, being on his own, for the first time,
it's cute. He's smart & will figure it out.
A friend's daughter started this week. So far so good--her mother was terribly worried, but she seems to be settling in pretty well.
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Mentis Fugit Tue, Aug 30, 2011 12:01:44am |
re: #26 imp_62
I take mine cream, no sugar. And none of that creamer crap, either. Cream or milk.
If it didn't come out of a cow, it ain't going in my coffee.
And if you'll allow me to promote a local business, Whittaker's Dark Ghana is to diekill for.
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BeenHereAwhile Tue, Aug 30, 2011 12:17:54am |
re: #67 freetoken
Christianity has always been strongly apocalyptic, probably because it was founded on these ideas.
And, for those in Judea who were living in the area in the 1st century, "the end" did come, in 70AD.
There was discussion in my Greek classes about the prevalence of Greek language and culture in Judea and surrounding area in 1AD/CE.
It was generally understood (even among the divinity students) that more than likely the historical Jesus spoke either Aramaic or Greek, even though he was trying to convert Jews to believe in ever lasting life.
Which led to the question. Was the 1st & 2nd Jewish rebellion an orthodox/fundamentalist attempt to stamp out inroads that [Greek] non-Hebrew language & culture had made into traditional Jewish culture, which in turn threatened the Pax Romana of Judea?
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Aug 30, 2011 12:19:39am |
How do we know Michelle wasn't just jokin' when she said all that "End Times" sutff?
Sounds funny enough to me...
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Aug 30, 2011 12:53:09am |
C'mon, we need two more Apostles on line here to have a Last Supper quorum.
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Mark Winter Tue, Aug 30, 2011 1:22:29am |
Evangelists who talk about the Rapture are like the girls who promise you sex after the next date... all you can think is: faster please!
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Aug 30, 2011 1:38:45am |
All beings back memories of my eighth-grade crush, Kim E. She was very baptist, gave me a copy of "666" by Salem Kirban, an illutrated novel account of the Rapture (long before the "Left Behind" series came out) that was complete and utter drivel.
I was already reading Bertrand Russel and Aldous Huxley at that point, I had no use for it and told her so. Kinda put the kebosh on our budding realtionship.
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
I heard from her a while back, she got knocked up by her boyfriend while still in high school, she is now a single grandmother...
God bless Family Values, especially in these End Times.
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freetoken Tue, Aug 30, 2011 1:49:31am |
re: #96 BeenHereAwhile
... more than likely the historical Jesus spoke either Aramaic or Greek, even though he was trying to convert Jews to believe in ever lasting life.
Hmmm... that seems unlikely, at least as far as I've read. Most NT scholars would accept that a Nazareth area resident in AD 30 would be quite aware of the extent of the Hellenization of the land of Judea, since Greek was the lingua franca of the elite, the Gospel stories tell of a Jesus and his disciples who were anything but "the elite". Their everyday language would have been Aramaic, and they probably could understand Hebrew as it was read to them.
Furthermore, even if some of them knew a few words of Koine (to get by in cases where they had to interact with gentiles), they would have been illiterate. In fact, the book of Acts clearly states that Peter and John were illiterate!
People who attempt to recreate the "historical" Jesus - though some think that a folly - from the surviving stories (i.e., the Gospels), even though the stories are from the latter part of the 1st century and thus 50 or 60 years after the events, and thus not written by eyewitnesses - what comes out in the wash is that Jesus was most definitely an apocalyptic Jew, not an ascetic as the Essenes were and not a militant as the "Fourth way" were. He was a "
the end is near - REPENT!" (to put the story in English idioms) prophet.
So, it really comes as no surprise that Michele Bachmann ends up being an end-timer, like millions and millions of others before her in the preceding 19 centuries.
Now, since the first century the Christian religion has been highly Hellenized and even Paganized and today can seem somewhat different from it's apocalyptic Jewish origins, but if one scrapes away the centuries of add-ons one gets to the Jewish roots.
However, Bachmann, Perry, and the rest really don't care about all of that. They don't want to hear how diverse "Christianity" was a century after Jesus, no more than they want to hear about how Genesis and Moses were just stories made up by religious sects in the first millenium BC Levant. The fundamentalists in this country today are on a tear - a reactionary fugue to a world that doesn't make sense to them.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:23:07am |
She said that on numerous occasions since the Hernando Sheriff's Office took over the jail in August 2010, deputies had entered her office without permission and had moved items, tampered with instruments and opened and viewed evidence without her authorization or knowledge.
That would violate the Florida Administrative Code, which states that evidentiary breath test instruments must be accessible only to people issued licenses by the state. The rule serves to protect the chain of evidence.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]
Police FAIL. This could jeopardize 50 DUI cases.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:32:00am |
anyone awake
The puppy doesn't think anyone should be
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:32:57am |
re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar
She said that on numerous occasions since the Hernando Sheriff's Office took over the jail in August 2010, deputies had entered her office without permission and had moved items, tampered with instruments and opened and viewed evidence without her authorization or knowledge.
That would violate the Florida Administrative Code, which states that evidentiary breath test instruments must be accessible only to people issued licenses by the state. The rule serves to protect the chain of evidence.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]
Police FAIL. This could jeopardize 50 DUI cases.
Independent inspectors from the Pasco County Sheriff's Office and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement later checked the machines and determined they hadn't been tampered with, a report stated.
Thank God
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:33:49am |
re: #108 ggt
anyone awake
The puppy doesn't think anyone should be
He's right
I mean,,, if I have to be up at this ungodly hour,,,,,
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:34:27am |
re: #110 sattv4u2
He's right
I mean,,, if I have to be up at this ungodly hour,,,
You two deserve each other.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:35:11am |
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:35:35am |
re: #104 freetoken
Hmmm... that seems unlikely, at least as far as I've read. Most NT scholars would accept that a Nazareth area resident in AD 30 would be quite aware of the extent of the Hellenization of the land of Judea, since Greek was the lingua franca of the elite, the Gospel stories tell of a Jesus and his disciples who were anything but "the elite". Their everyday language would have been Aramaic, and they probably could understand Hebrew as it was read to them.
Furthermore, even if some of them knew a few words of Koine (to get by in cases where they had to interact with gentiles), they would have been illiterate. In fact, the book of Acts clearly states that Peter and John were illiterate!
People who attempt to recreate the "historical" Jesus - though some think that a folly - from the surviving stories (i.e., the Gospels), even though the stories are from the latter part of the 1st century and thus 50 or 60 years after the events, and thus not written by eyewitnesses - what comes out in the wash is that Jesus was most definitely an apocalyptic Jew, not an ascetic as the Essenes were and not a militant as the "Fourth way" were. He was a "
the end is near - REPENT!" (to put the story in English idioms) prophet.So, it really comes as no surprise that Michele Bachmann ends up being an end-timer, like millions and millions of others before her in the preceding 19 centuries.
Now, since the first century the Christian religion has been highly Hellenized and even Paganized and today can seem somewhat different from it's apocalyptic Jewish origins, but if one scrapes away the centuries of add-ons one gets to the Jewish roots.
However, Bachmann, Perry, and the rest really don't care about all of that. They don't want to hear how diverse "Christianity" was a century after Jesus, no more than they want to hear about how Genesis and Moses were just stories made up by religious sects in the first millenium BC Levant. The fundamentalists in this country today are on a tear - a reactionary fugue to a world that doesn't make sense to them.
He was a Jewish carpenter. Travelling tradesman. If he lived today, he'd be a union member complete with buttcrack.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:39:48am |
re: #109 sattv4u2
The woman in the article who resigned will be put on the stand and will be asked why she resigned. That will put probable doubt in the jury's minds, although I don't think it will get that far.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:43:44am |
re: #67 freetoken
The concept (and it certainly is a sticky one) is a hold over from the period of Hasmonean period religious groups, including those who would eventually morph into what we call "Christians" of that time.
Christianity has always been strongly apocalyptic, probably because it was founded on these ideas.
And, for those in Judea who were living in the area in the 1st century, "the end" did come, in 70AD.
However, in the succeeding 19 centuries many people have found it in their interests to pretend the apocalyptic language wasn't about the turmoil of that age (even though apparently Jesus explicitly told them it would all occur in his hearers' own lifetimes.)
technically, you will see the end-times because you will die in your own lifetime.
So, see, I too can be a prophet. Only I don't wish to profit from it. So you can trust me.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:49:26am |
re: #115 ggt
technically, you will see the end-times because you will die in your own lifetime.
So, see, I too can be a prophet. Only I don't which to profit from it. So you can trust me.
When I do, i'll do it here
It will be fitting!!
[Link: www.yelp.com...]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:54:21am |
re: #113 ggt
He was a Jewish carpenter. Travelling tradesman. If he lived today, he'd be a union member complete with buttcrack.
Heheh :)
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:54:32am |
Because everyone needs to see nimble fingers at the piano at this hour of the morning.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:54:51am |
re: #116 sattv4u2
When I do, i'll do it here
It will be fitting!!
[Link: www.yelp.com...]
You can get take-out at the end of the world?
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:55:46am |
re: #119 ggt
You can get take-out at the end of the world?
Where I'm going, I doubt there's refrigeration!
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:56:14am |
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researchok Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:56:48am |
re: #122 sattv4u2
You say that every day, but never do anything about it!
/
I know what I can change and what I can't
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:58:06am |
re: #123 researchok
I know what I can change and what I can't
It's a new day
Start with underwear!!!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:59:24am |
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researchok Tue, Aug 30, 2011 2:59:45am |
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researchok Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:00:14am |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:04:18am |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:05:04am |
re: #126 researchok
BTW, I sent out that short piece to about 30 people.
It got traction.
fun, huh!
I cam recall (fondly) doing all those things,,
Didn't know we were on the cutting edge!
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:05:37am |
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:09:02am |
Puppy is sleeping.
I shall also.
Have a great morning all!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:10:02am |
I understand the 2 guys side of the story here. But I also love the reasoning by the cop.:)
[Link: philadelphia.cbslocal.com...]
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:12:09am |
re: #132 Cannadian Club Akbar
I understand the 2 guys side of the story here. But I also love the reasoning by the cop.:)
[Link: philadelphia.cbslocal.com...]
arrested, he said the officers replied, “for lack of common sense.”
If that's the criteria, we're gonna need a LOT of BIGGER jails!!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:12:32am |
re: #131 ggt
Puppy is sleeping.
I shall also.
Have a great morning all!
Seems like there's a lil' canine Overlord there ;)
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researchok Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:13:55am |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:14:13am |
re: #134 Sergey Romanov
Seems like there's a lil' canine Overlord there ;)
The way my two lay in the bed I have to be a contortionist so as not to disturb them!
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:14:40am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:15:12am |
re: #133 sattv4u2
arrested, he said the officers replied, “for lack of common sense.”
If that's the criteria, we're gonna need a LOT of BIGGER jails!!
If I plan on going down a flooded road on a raft, I'll make sure I have running lights. Not to make it legal. Just to make it funnier.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:18:09am |
re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar
If I plan on going down a flooded road on a raft, I'll make sure I have running lights. Not to make it legal. Just to make it funnier.
Just outfit your car like
[Link: discardedlies.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:20:52am |
re: #139 sattv4u2
Just outfit your car like
[Link: discardedlies.com...]
Please. Have you ever seen some of the stuff the Cubans come up with? Good stuff.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:22:19am |
re: #140 Cannadian Club Akbar
Please. Have you ever seen some of the stuff the Cubans come up with? Good stuff.
Yeah ,, I don't mind
I end up with spare parts for my '57 Chevy BelAir!
/
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:24:22am |
((( ix-nay on the water talk ,, rwdflynavy just showed up!!)))
///
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:25:25am |
glazed donuts, a bagel of coffee cake
decisions decisions decisions
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:25:29am |
Good Morning Honcos!
Drove in early to get a long run in before class and arrived with no workout shorts. Now, it is still dark outside, but the MPs might not take kindly to me running without shorts. Off base in SouthWest DC no one would even look twice, but the first 1/2 mile on base could cause some issues...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:26:26am |
re: #144 rwdflynavy
Good Morning Honcos!
Drove in early to get a long run in before class and arrived with no workout shorts. Now, it is still dark outside, but the MPs might not take kindly to me running without shorts. Off base in SouthWest DC no one would even look twice, but the first 1/2 mile on base could cause some issues...
Just put a sock on your junk.
/
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:28:47am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:29:04am |
[Link: mankatofreepress.com...]
*snicker*
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:29:18am |
re: #146 Sergey Romanov
Now make that rhyme.
Just put a sock on your junk
But please stay out of my bunk!
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:29:30am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:30:03am |
re: #148 sattv4u2
Just put a sock on your junk
But stay out of my bunk!
Unless we're both drunk.....
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:31:19am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:31:45am |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:32:06am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:33:16am |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:33:23am |
re: #153 rwdflynavy
The dumb, more famous one.
“Homer: [drunk] Look, the thing about my family is there's five of us. Marge, Bart, Girl Bart, the one who doesn't talk, and the fat guy. How I loathe him.”
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:35:44am |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:37:48am |
Ex-Congressman Ike Skelton talked to our class yesterday. Reminded me of some good quotes about Congress:
Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.
- Mark Twain
All Congresses and Parliaments have a kindly feeling for idiots, and a compassion for them, on account of personal experience and heredity.
- Mark Twain
There is no distinctly American criminal class - except Congress.
Mark Twain
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:38:25am |
Authorities said Briles appeared to have been drinking. He was released Monday and couldn't immediately be reached at a number listed for him in Irvine.
Ya think?
[Link: hosted.ap.org...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:38:59am |
Homer is more important than Homer, IMO.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:39:58am |
re: #158 Cannadian Club Akbar
Kids'll piss you off!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:40:20am |
re: #159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Homer is more important than Homer, IMO.
Um. No. Homer is more important.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:41:11am |
A fool and his money are soon elected.
Will Rogers
Ancient Rome declined because it had a Senate, now what's going to happen to us with both a House and a Senate?
Will Rogers
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.
Will Rogers
Last one:
I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.
Will Rogers
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:42:09am |
re: #160 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Kids'll piss you off!
So will wives ,,, and neighbors ,, and co-workers ,,, and bank tellers ,,, and cable guys ,,,, and ,,,,,,,,
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:42:32am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:43:43am |
re: #163 sattv4u2
So will wives ,,, and neighbors ,, and co-workers ,,, and bank tellers ,,, and cable guys ,,, and ,,,
Yep. Throw them overboard!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:44:48am |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:45:50am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:48:12am |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:49:31am |
re: #168 Sergey Romanov
No wonder Homer was blind.
I thought that was because he didn't heed his mothers warning when he discovered he could ,, umm,,,, nevahmind!!!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:49:57am |
“I don’t know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.” Bill Cosby
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:50:09am |
re: #169 sattv4u2
I thought that was because he didn't heed his mothers warning when he discovered he could ,, umm,,, nevahmind!!!
How thick are your glasses these days?
//
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:50:47am |
re: #162 rwdflynavy
I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.
Will Rogers
That is the principle that still governs John Stewart and The Daily Show: they just broadcast a clip of a politician/candidate saying something outrageous and cut to JS' face as he reacts to it.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:50:55am |
re: #171 rwdflynavy
How thick are your glasses these days?
//
It's not that that bothers me
It's these damn hairy palms!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:51:17am |
re: #169 sattv4u2
I thought that was because he didn't heed his mothers warning when he discovered he could ,, umm,,, nevahmind!!!
No, no, that was because of Duff. Homer (alias Mittens) was into that stuff.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:53:25am |
Dick Cheney once killed and ate a congressman in front of a visiting troop of girl scouts, as part of his demonstration of “how a bill becomes law.”
When Dick Cheney has a heart attack, no one in DC dies for the next 24 hours. Death is back home in the ninth ward p*ssing himself.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:57:35am |
re: #175 rwdflynavy
Dick Cheney once killed and ate a congressman in front of a visiting troop of girl scouts, as part of his demonstration of “how a bill becomes law.”
When Dick Cheney has a heart attack, no one in DC dies for the next 24 hours. Death is back home in the ninth ward p*ssing himself.
With fava beans and a nice chianti?
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Obdicut Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:01:47am |
re: #157 rwdflynavy
The problem with politicians saying stuff like that is they clearly don't mean it. He didn't feel that he was a criminal.
I don't get why so many Republican congresspeople have such a dim view of congress, and yet continue to serve in it, and continue to do all the crap they criticize congress as a whole for.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:05:49am |
LaRouchies, classy as always:
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
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Obdicut Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:08:59am |
re: #178 Sergey Romanov
I don't now which is worse about LaRoucheites, their anti-semitic, whackjob views or the total smugness with which they deliver them.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:09:22am |
re: #177 Obdicut
The problem with politicians saying stuff like that is they clearly don't mean it. He didn't feel that he was a criminal.
I don't get why so many Republican congresspeople have such a dim view of congress, and yet continue to serve in it, and continue to do all the crap they criticize congress as a whole for.
Actually, Skelton was very complimentary about Congress and the great work they do. Overall, we were underwhelmed by his talk. I wanted to ask him his thoughts on term-limits for Congress (he served 34 years) but didn't get the chance.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:10:01am |
re: #180 rwdflynavy
Actually, Skelton was very complimentary about Congress and the great work they do. Overall, we were underwhelmed by his talk. I wanted to ask him his thoughts on term-limits for Congress (he served 34 years) but didn't get the chance.
Did he bring up the Twain quotes?
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:10:21am |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:10:35am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:11:51am |
We have a former congressman here who called DC a cesspool. He's now our Secretary of Agriculture. Heh.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:12:55am |
re: #184 Cannadian Club Akbar
We have a former congressman here who called DC a cesspool. He's now our Secretary of Agriculture. Heh.
Kinda sullies the good name of cesspools.
//
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:15:11am |
re: #184 Cannadian Club Akbar
We have a former congressman here who called DC a cesspool. He's now our Secretary of Agriculture. Heh.
re-cycled water to irrigate the crops!
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:15:23am |
re: #179 Obdicut
I don't now which is worse about LaRoucheites, their anti-semitic, whackjob views or the total smugness with which they deliver them.
Their most eloquent spokesman:
Stuart Mackenzie: Well, it's a well known fact, Sonny Jim, that there's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentavirate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.
Tony Giardino: So who's in this Pentavirate?
Stuart Mackenzie: The Queen, The Vatican, The Gettys, The Rothschilds, *and* Colonel Sanders before he went tits up. Oh, I hated the Colonel with is wee *beady* eyes, and that smug look on his face. "Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken! Ohhhhh!"
Charlie Mackenzie: Dad, how can you hate "The Colonel"?
Stuart Mackenzie: Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes ya crave it fortnightly, smartass!
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:16:45am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:19:05am |
Anyone who puts a Hitler mustache on a President's pic is a fucking moron. The act is tired. Get some new material. Douches.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:21:23am |
re: #189 Cannadian Club Akbar
Anyone who puts a Hitler mustache on a President's pic is a fucking moron. The act is tired. Get some new material. Douches.
Maybe it was a Charlie Chaplin stache.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:21:23am |
re: #189 Cannadian Club Akbar
Anyone who puts a Hitler mustache on a President's pic is a fucking moron. The act is tired. Get some new material. Douches.
> Get some new material.
Don't give'em idears! Next thing you know there will be Hitlertache on Santa and Rudolph.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:22:16am |
re: #187 rwdflynavy
God, I loved that character.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:22:32am |
re: #191 Sergey Romanov
> Get some new material.
Don't give'em idears! Next thing you know the will be Hitlertache on Santa and Rudolph.
Santa is kind of a dictator.
/
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:24:04am |
re: #193 Cannadian Club Akbar
Santa is kind of a dictator.
/
Besides you never know who might be behind that bushy beard (and Hitlertache). I say let's waterboard him.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:24:43am |
re: #194 Sergey Romanov
Besides you never know who might be behind that bushy beard (and Hitlertache). I say let's
watersnowboard him.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:26:58am |
re: #192 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
God, I loved that character.
Stuart Mackenzie: [as Harriet is meeting Charlie's parents for the first time] Show her the picture of Charlie when he shit his pants at Niagara Falls!
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:27:32am |
re: #194 Sergey Romanov
Besides you never know who might be behind that bushy beard (and Hitlertache). I say let's waterboard him.
Jack Bauer and Santa Claus
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reine.de.tout Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:27:47am |
Don't be messing with Santa!
At least not until after Christmas.
I have this year's jewelry picked out, daughter has instructions to get Santa to the store.
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Obdicut Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:28:36am |
re: #157 rwdflynavy
Oh, sorry, I thought you meant he reminded you of the quotes, not that he reminded you of the quotes.
(The English language is a beautiful mess.)
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reine.de.tout Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:29:31am |
A former nanny to grandchildren of Moammar Gadhafi, who was allegedly burned by boiling water, was receiving medical treatment Tuesday, according to CNN's Dan Rivers, who visited the woman at a hospital in Tripoli. The former nanny said she was burned for failing to keep a child quiet.
If you saw the photos of her, the burns were horrific. I'm surprised she was able to survive the ordeal.
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Obdicut Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:29:48am |
re: #192 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Do you link your own sausage?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:29:48am |
re: #198 reine.de.tout
Don't be messing with Santa!
At least not until after Christmas.
I have this year's jewelry picked out, daughter has instructions to get Santa to the store.
Yea, well, the last couple years he's been slacking. He'd best come through this year.
/
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:30:48am |
re: #201 Obdicut
Do you link your own sausage?
Harriet Michaels: Do you actually like haggis?
Charlie Mackenzie: No, I think it's repellent in every way. In fact, I think most Scottish cuisine is based on a dare
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:31:09am |
re: #200 reine.de.tout
I saw the video. :(
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:31:21am |
re: #203 rwdflynavy
Charlie Mackenzie: You know, Scotland has its own martial arts. Yeah, it's called Fuck You. It's mostly just head butting and then kicking people when they're on the ground.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:32:06am |
re: #205 rwdflynavy
[calling Ice and Jimmah]
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reine.de.tout Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:33:08am |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:35:51am |
re: #206 Sergey Romanov
[calling Ice and Jimmah]
I'm pretty sure they would both upding...or maybe headbutt me and kick me while I was on the ground...
//
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:36:15am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:36:33am |
re: #209 rwdflynavy
I'm pretty sure they would both upding...or maybe headbutt me and kick me while I was on the ground...
//
Simultaneously!
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reine.de.tout Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:37:40am |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:40:10am |
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:40:15am |
re: #205 rwdflynavy
The day before starting my first job out of the Army I was sparring with a buddy. I had him wrapped up good so he gave me a brutal head butt. I had to start the new job in a suit/tie with a broken nose and 2 black eyes.
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andydp Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:41:10am |
I posted this on the other Bachman thread. But is needs repeating:
I got this from one of my Fabvebook Friends:
There was a wonderful series of interviews with church leaders a few years back after a swath of hurricanes went through Honduras. All were asked 'Why these terrible storms?' The local evangelical church leader said, 'God is punishing the people for thei...r waywardness.' The [RC? the quote says 'Italian'] incumbent noted, 'God is testing His people.' The Episcopal Bishop (Leo Frade, now in Florida) said, 'It's hurricane season.' " -the Rev. Br. Tobias Haller
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:41:57am |
re: #214 RogueOne
You going to slack off today ,, AGAIN !?!?!?
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:43:08am |
re: #216 sattv4u2
You going to slack off today ,, AGAIN !?!?!?
Look how late he logged on here. He's already answered that question.
//
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:45:16am |
re: #217 rwdflynavy
Look how late he logged on here. He's already answered that question.
//
And he's still in his jammies, the one with the footies and drop seat!
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:47:18am |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:48:06am |
re: #143 sattv4u2
glazed donuts, a bagel of coffee cake
decisions decisions decisions
K ,, I've decided on the bagel
(with a glazed donut 'to go' when I leave)
((I know you all have been waiting breathlessly for my decision))
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:58:04am |
re: #220 sattv4u2
K ,, I've decided on the bagel
(with a glazed donut 'to go' when I leave)
((I know you all have been waiting breathlessly for my decision))
Got quiet after that comment
Guess I should have picked the coffee cake!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:58:59am |
The bird flu is back. Read these comments. NWO!! CHEMTRAILS!! Booga!!
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:01:27am |
Because of a mutation. So True Christians have nothing to fear because they know there is no evolution and no mutation...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:02:57am |
re: #223 ralphieboy
Because of a mutation. So True Christians have nothing to fear because they know there is no evolution and no mutation...
Mutant Zoo would be a good name for a band.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:06:19am |
I'm getting upgraded today to Windows 7 today. W00t.
(Yes I know I posted about upgrading last week, but this time it's at work)
I will have to go without my dual monitor system for a while until they get the graphics drivers installed.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:08:34am |
re: #225 Alouette
I'm getting upgraded today to Windows 7 today. W00t.
(Yes I know I posted about upgrading last week, but this time it's at work)
I will have to go without my dual monitor system for a while until they get the graphics drivers installed.
Such hardship!
I'd sue someone!
/
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:09:15am |
re: #225 Alouette
I'm getting upgraded today to Windows 7 today. W00t.
(Yes I know I posted about upgrading last week, but this time it's at work)
I will have to go without my dual monitor system for a while until they get the graphics drivers installed.
Not to mention today twice today!!
//
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:12:36am |
Alrighty. Gotta run. Wish me luck.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:13:35am |
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:16:46am |
re: #217 rwdflynavy
So...I rooted my droid last month and finally got around to re-setting up Tasker. One of the problems I was having was battery life so I set tasker up to turn off everything I don't need (wifi, gps, mobile data, sync) and turn on data & sync every 30 minutes for 2 minutes to check and then turn itself back off. I set it all up with an on/off widget which makes it handy. I also managed to get it to turn data back on when the screen comes on and it leaves it all on when it's plugged in to a power source. I ran some tests the last couple of days and it's saving me about 15% battery life every 5 hours. Not bad!
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:20:44am |
re: #230 RogueOne
So...I rooted my droid last month and finally got around to re-setting up Tasker. One of the problems I was having was battery life so I set tasker up to turn off everything I don't need (wifi, gps, mobile data, sync) and turn on data & sync every 30 minutes for 2 minutes to check and then turn itself back off. I set it all up with an on/off widget which makes it handy. I also managed to get it to turn data back on when the screen comes on and it leaves it all on when it's plugged in to a power source. I ran some tests the last couple of days and it's saving me about 15% battery life every 5 hours. Not bad!
I have two tin cans and a really long string
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:25:35am |
ugh ,,, whatamess
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Libya rebels may be killing black workers
Libyan rebels may be indiscriminately killing black people because they have confused innocent migrant workers with mercenaries
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:26:11am |
re: #231 sattv4u2
The Tasker app is one of the handiest apps on the market for Droid phones. You can automate just about everything if you have the time to figure it out.
I have a nite mode that turns on the Airplane mode at night (when it isn't plugged in) and then turns itself back on every 15 minutes to check for text messages. If there is an emergency my wife/SiL can send me a text with a keyword that turns the phone back on so they can call me. Droid>Iphone.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:26:15am |
Morning Lizardim. Today is a blood day in the wild north country; the day dawned in fiery red with roiling purple clouds that looked like some sort of alien atmosphere. Unfortunately, I was not abducted by aliens, as I'm here at work now.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:30:45am |
re: #233 RogueOne
The Tasker app is one of the handiest apps on the market for Droid phones. You can automate just about everything if you have the time to figure it out.
I have a nite mode that turns on the Airplane mode at night (when it isn't plugged in) and then turns itself back on every 15 minutes to check for text messages. If there is an emergency my wife/SiL can send me a text with a keyword that turns the phone back on so they can call me. Droid>Iphone.
All I've ever needed/ wanted from my cell phone is to make a call/ receive a call
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:30:57am |
Jared Loughner lawyers file new appeal
[Link: www.politico.com...]
The new appeal was filed Monday night and comes as defense lawyers and prosecutors prepared for arguments on a previous defense appeal on a similar forced-drugging issue is set to be heard by a federal appeals court in San Francisco on Tuesday.
The new appeal is of Judge Larry Burns's ruling from the bench Monday that denied the defense a formal hearing on the forced medication of Loughner--though Burns did hear from a prison psychiatrist and said he saw no reason to interfere with her judgment that the medication was necessary.
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:31:18am |
re: #235 sattv4u2
All I've ever needed/ wanted from my cell phone is to make a call/ receive a call
That's quaint!//
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:32:54am |
re: #224 Cannadian Club Akbar
Mutant Zoo would be a good name for a band.
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:33:41am |
re: #237 RogueOne
That's quaint!//
hell,, I still have my 1st couple of cell phones
[Link: www.webdesignerdepot.com...]
The one that looked like an army field phone
the bag phone
[Link: pictures.hatsrack.com...]
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:35:41am |
re: #237 RogueOne
re: #239 sattv4u2
hell,, I still have my 1st couple of cell phones
[Link: www.webdesignerdepot.com...]
The one that looked like an army field phone
the bag phone[Link: pictures.hatsrack.com...]
I was on the 'cutting edge" back then
driving on route 128 around Boston, calls would drop every 3 miles or so. I would keep a list of dropped calls (date/time/location) and at the end of the month submit the list to the carrier and get a credit for each call lost
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:36:00am |
re: #238 ralphieboy
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
I guess the onion was right:
Report: Only 7 Band Names Remaining
[Link: www.theonion.com...]
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:36:57am |
re: #240 sattv4u2
re: #239 sattv4u2
I was on the 'cutting edge" back then
driving on route 128 around Boston, calls would drop every 3 miles or so. I would keep a list of dropped calls (date/time/location) and at the end of the month submit the list to the carrier and get a credit for each call lost
I remember the big bag phones. A $3000 piece of junk!
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:39:11am |
This could be fun.
Ron Artest, Chaz Bono, Nancy Grace join 'Dancing With the Stars'
[Link: www.indystar.com...]
Ron could get extra-credit points for snapping and taking out Nancy Grace.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:43:23am |
re: #243 RogueOne
This could be fun.
Ron Artest, Chaz Bono, Nancy Grace join 'Dancing With the Stars'
[Link: www.indystar.com...]Ron could get extra-credit points for snapping and taking out Nancy Grace.
I dunno
I'd give Nancy even odds if it comes to fists flying!
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:45:39am |
Greener than cremation: Liquification:
The system works by submerging the body in a solution of water and potassium hydroxide which is pressurised to 10 atmospheres and heated to 180C for between two-and-a-half and three hours.
Body tissue is dissolved and the liquid poured into the municipal water system. Mr Sullivan, a biochemist by training, says tests have proven the effluent is sterile and contains no DNA, and poses no environmental risk.
The bones are then removed from the unit and processed in a "cremulator", the same machine that is used to crush bone fragments following cremation into ash. Metals including mercury and artificial joints and implants are safely recovered.
Morning all, again!
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:46:50am |
re: #245 ggt
a "cremulator"
heh,,, I thought thats what the waitress brought to your table with your coffee!!
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:50:50am |
re: #247 imp_62
Do you sleep?
never,, and after all these years, she's really starting to get cranky
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:52:03am |
re: #178 Sergey Romanov
LaRouchies, classy as always:
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
A Jew and a Nazi in one person?
What do you think the voices in his head argue about?
/:)
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shutdown Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:52:51am |
re: #248 sattv4u2
never,, and after all these years, she's really starting to get cranky
It's worse than you think... she is hallucinating you - you're not real.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:54:26am |
re: #250 imp_62
It's worse than you think... she is hallucinating you - you're not real.
Hell,, I could have told you that!
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:54:35am |
re: #249 ggt
A Jew and a Nazi in one person?
What do you think the voices in his head argue about?
/:)
Danish and coffee of course.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:54:45am |
re: #249 ggt
A Jew and a Nazi in one person?
What do you think the voices in his head argue about?
/:)
football
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:57:54am |
re: #247 imp_62
Do you sleep?
I get a couple of hours at a time.
Puppy is not nice lately. I think he is teething again. He asks to go out and I take him, he does his thing. Then has to chew on something for a while, go out again and then sleeps.
Seems to be a phase he goes thru every few weeks.
This dog is "huntin' stock". Very strong willed and has a strong prey-drive. Not my type of dog, but he belongs to the hubby. Hubby is out of town, so I am on puppy duty. Hubby is one of those type A personalities, so he and the dog keep the same hours.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:58:17am |
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 5:59:26am |
oh, BTW none of you are real.
Except Stanley Sea, she plays Words with Friends and Strangers with me.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:00:12am |
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:00:53am |
re: #246 sattv4u2
a "cremulator"
heh,,, I thought thats what the waitress brought to your table with your coffee!!
I'm having some real issues with the liquid remains being dumped in the municipal water supply. I don't care what the scientists say, it can't be right.
:0
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:01:17am |
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shutdown Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:01:41am |
re: #257 ggt
oh, BTW none of you are real.
Except Stanley Sea, she plays Words with Friends and Strangers with me.
If I'm not real, why aren't I rich?
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:02:20am |
re: #261 imp_62
If I'm not real, why aren't I rich?
because I took all the money.
I stored it in a sekrit place at the Meadows in Colorado.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:05:03am |
re: #259 ggt
I'm having some real issues with the liquid remains being dumped in the municipal water supply. I don't care what the scientists say, it can't be right.
:0
Yeah, because all those bugs and animals and fish that die in there is of no concern!! (not to mention their .,,, ummm,,, waste materials))
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:06:25am |
The story is about FEMA running out of money after Irene, but the picture is very cool!
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:07:03am |
re: #263 sattv4u2
Yeah, because all those bugs and animals and fish that die in there is of no concern!! (not to mention their .,,, ummm,,, waste materials))
I know the body is mostly water, but this is too Sci-Fi for me. I don't need to know these things. Let me die not knowing, OK?
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:09:04am |
re: #265 ggt
I know the body is mostly water, but this is too Sci-Fi for me. I don't need to know these things. Let me die not knowing, OK?
"That last glass of water I had,, reminded me of , i dunno, kinda Aunt Jane like!"
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:09:19am |
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:09:45am |
re: #267 sattv4u2
"That last glass of water I had,, reminded me of , i dunno, kinda Aunt Jane like!"
You are soooo bad!
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:13:54am |
re: #269 ggt
You are sooo bad!
I played a lot of hockey when I was young before helmets were mandatory!
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:14:58am |
re: #264 ggt
The story is about FEMA running out of money after Irene, but the picture is very cool!
It looks like they poured the blacktop over a stone base, no concrete. Cheap but bound to fail.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:16:30am |
re: #271 RogueOne
It looks like they poured the blacktop over a stone base, no concrete. Cheap but bound to fail.
Yeah, my first thought was: Not a typical Roman Road!
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:17:03am |
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:17:37am |
Puppy is sleeping so I'm going to finish my night's sleep as well.
Since I get about 2 hours at a time . . . .
I'll be seeing you-all in a little bit.
Have a great morning.
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:18:19am |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:19:48am |
re: #275 RogueOne
"Look for the union label..."
There were only 8 supervisors there watching the one guy with the shovel, instead of the usual 10-1 ratio!
/
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:22:20am |
re: #276 sattv4u2
There were only 8 supervisors there watching the one guy with the shovel, instead of the usual 10-1 ratio!
/
In Minnesota, due to the volume of road reconstruction that goes on every year, we've perfected the art of lean road crews. We've got it down to an astonishing 4.5 to 1.
/Don't ask me about the half, they're kind of sensitive about that.
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:26:32am |
re: #277 thedopefishlives
In Minnesota, due to the volume of road reconstruction that goes on every year, we've perfected the art of lean road crews. We've got it down to an astonishing 4.5 to 1.
/Don't ask me about the half, they're kind of sensitive about that.
The good news about them cutting down the trees along my street is that they're only using a crew of 8 guys and 3 trucks so they're only able to take down one tree a day.
I finally asked why they were removing the trees. They're putting in new sidewalks on my block. I'd rather have the trees. The sidewalks and curbs are old but they were still in pretty good shape. If they were worried about the roots bulging up the sidewalks I wonder why they just didn't cut the root out of the way instead of taking out the whole tree.
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:27:30am |
I have to run to the shop to finish these quotes. BBIAB probably. If not, Enjoy the day!
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Petero1818 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:29:30am |
This gives new meaning to things she has been saying on the trail. Like when she says Obama will be "a one term president", what she is really thinking is "....and I will be the last President".
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:31:18am |
re: #277 thedopefishlives
In Minnesota, due to the volume of road reconstruction that goes on every year, we've perfected the art of lean road crews. We've got it down to an astonishing 4.5 to 1.
/Don't ask me about the half, they're kind of sensitive about that.
Lil People have rights to, you know!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:49:43am |
Republicans wasting more time on symbolic nonsense....
Republicans to Unveil Bill to Force Major Changes at the UN
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lostlakehiker Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:53:45am |
re: #179 Obdicut
I don't now which is worse about LaRoucheites, their anti-semitic, whackjob views or the total smugness with which they deliver them.
They pioneered the whack-job science schtick. They'd spin a fantastic story about a new source of energy that was being held off the market by the establishment, even though it had all been worked out by---get this---Bernhard Riemann.
A 19th century German mathematician.
The schtick works, much of the time. What is the slightly skeptical reader to do? Look up Riemann and read his German work on the zeros of the zeta function?
The more skeptical reader figures it out: neither has any LaRoucher. It's just smoke.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:55:01am |
re: #282 Killgore Trout
Republicans wasting more time on symbolic nonsense...
Republicans to Unveil Bill to Force Major Changes at the UN
The thing is, it's not like the UN couldn't use some reform. This proposal, however, basically makes it into a US puppet - do what we say or we won't pay you any more money. That's certainly not going to help anything.
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lostlakehiker Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:55:24am |
re: #278 RogueOne
The good news about them cutting down the trees along my street is that they're only using a crew of 8 guys and 3 trucks so they're only able to take down one tree a day.
I finally asked why they were removing the trees. They're putting in new sidewalks on my block. I'd rather have the trees. The sidewalks and curbs are old but they were still in pretty good shape. If they were worried about the roots bulging up the sidewalks I wonder why they just didn't cut the root out of the way instead of taking out the whole tree.
The roots would regrow, or they wouldn't. If they do, the sidewalk suffers. If they don't, the tree is likely to die and then you have to take it out anyway.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 30, 2011 6:58:53am |
re: #284 thedopefishlives
The thing is, it's not like the UN couldn't use some reform. This proposal, however, basically makes it into a US puppet - do what we say or we won't pay you any more money. That's certainly not going to help anything.
I'm not a fan of the UN either but the GOP proposal is just stupid.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:00:35am |
and on that note, the long quiet drive to the chiropractor beckons (followed by the shorter quite drive home)
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:00:41am |
re: #286 Killgore Trout
I'm not a fan of the UN either but the GOP proposal is just stupid.
As are most GOP proposals these days. Come to think of it, have they come up with a single actual good idea since Obama was elected? Or even further back than that?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:02:30am |
re: #288 thedopefishlives
As are most GOP proposals these days. Come to think of it, have they come up with a single actual good idea since Obama was elected? Or even further back than that?
It hard to remember. It's even tougher because the GOP will oppose its own ideas once Obama agrees to them.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:03:25am |
re: #289 Killgore Trout
It hard to remember. It's even tougher because the GOP will oppose its own ideas once Obama agrees to them.
The pretzel logic in that is threatening to make my head asplode.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:16:14am |
re: #277 thedopefishlives
In Minnesota, due to the volume of road reconstruction that goes on every year, we've perfected the art of lean road crews. We've got it down to an astonishing 4.5 to 1.
/Don't ask me about the half, they're kind of sensitive about that.
So he's the 'no show' instead of the 'no work', right?
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darthstar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:18:53am |
Six years ago today...two pictures of survivors with loaves of bread.
(Notice any differences in the captions?)
Image: katrina1.jpg
Image: katrina3.jpg
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:25:15am |
re: #289 Killgore Trout
It hard to remember. It's even tougher because the GOP will oppose its own ideas once Obama agrees to them.
They almost have to, since media personalities like Beck and Limbaugh have made Obama into a devil figure. Also, the so-called "Bubba vote" has to find some policy reason to hate Obama, since they can't come out and say "We hate him because he's black!" (except of course for their anonymous posts on Fox Nation and Yahoo).
That having been said, this bill is just for show. It's chances of passing the Senate, even if the GOP controlled that chamber, would be nil. however, the ideas in the bill of reforming the UN's funding formula and forcing changes in the UN's peacekeeping operations have merit. But trying to use our budget contributions to simply make the UN into a puppet is an extremely bad idea, that would only end with the USA looking like a bunch of asshole imperialists.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:27:23am |
re: #292 darthstar
Six years ago today...two pictures of survivors with loaves of bread.
(Notice any differences in the captions?)
Image: katrina1.jpg
Image: katrina3.jpg
That still pisses me off today.
Hello LGF! Hope everyone is having a good day.
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darthstar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:29:50am |
The UN should be our puppet! Hell, they even have the same first name as us!
/
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Lidane Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:30:07am |
re: #292 darthstar
Six years ago today...two pictures of survivors with loaves of bread.
(Notice any differences in the captions?)
Image: katrina1.jpg
Image: katrina3.jpg
Your "liberal media" at work. Isn't it lovely? =P
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:30:14am |
re: #292 darthstar
Six years ago today...two pictures of survivors with loaves of bread.
(Notice any differences in the captions?)
Image: katrina1.jpg
Image: katrina3.jpg
It reflects the social reality of America: People are more likely to see black people as criminals. So while a young white couple taking something from an abandoned grocery is seen as 'retrieval', when a young black man does it it's 'looting'.
However, honesty compels me to say that while I can honestly analyze the situation now when I am calm, in a crisis I myself would apply those labels.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:32:02am |
re: #298 Dark_Falcon
It reflects the social reality of America: People are more likely to see black people as criminals. So while a young white couple taking something from an abandoned grocery is seen as 'retrieval', when a young black man does it it's 'looting'.
However, honesty compels me to say that while I can honestly analyze the situation now when I am calm, in a crisis I myself would apply those labels.
You would really call it looting just because of someone's skin colour? I can't believe that.
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Lidane Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:33:55am |
How the hell does this make any sense?
Eric Cantor Won’t Support Any Hurricane Disaster Funding Without Massive Cuts To First Responders
That's almost as idiotic as the state of Texas cutting the budget for the state service that fights wildfires while blasting the POTUS for not spending enough to fight wildfires. Derp.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:35:14am |
re: #299 iceweasel
You would really call it looting just because of someone's skin colour? I can't believe that.
Morning, {ice}. I was about to say the same thing. If one were really that racist, it wouldn't require the sort of pressure applied by "a crisis" to expose it.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:36:22am |
re: #300 Lidane
How the hell does this make any sense?
Eric Cantor Won’t Support Any Hurricane Disaster Funding Without Massive Cuts To First Responders
That's almost as idiotic as the state of Texas cutting the budget for the state service that fights wildfires while blasting the POTUS for not spending enough to fight wildfires. Derp.
I had to do a double take on that one, because we've been talking about Cantor's idiotic no-funding-without-spending-cuts for a few days now. He really wants to cut funding for first responders? Is the guy legitimately mentally deficient or something?
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:36:58am |
re: #292 darthstar
Nope.. nothing to see there. I've got my racist-colored glasses on. /
The reporting from the storm by some outlets was atrocious, and that's just one example. You don't have to dig far to find a whole lot more.
So far, haven't seen reports of that ilk in the Irene coverage, and we've got extensive flooding around here that will last through the week - and some places upstate in NY and VT are even harder hit - completely wiped out by flash floods, but don't get the kind of coverage that a downstate flood would get because not as many people affected, but hundreds of bridges are out, several major highways are still shuttered, and there's no ETA on when they will reopen.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:37:50am |
re: #300 Lidane
Eric Cantor Won’t Support Any Hurricane Disaster Funding Without Massive Cuts To First Responders
I would take that with a grain of salt. I've been kinda following that and he did call to offset the hurricane relief several times but I haven't seen him state where those cuts would be made. The lefties are overplaying their hand taking guesses and putting words in his mouth about where those cuts will come from.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:40:10am |
re: #301 thedopefishlives
Morning, {ice}. I was about to say the same thing. If one were really that racist, it wouldn't require the sort of pressure applied by "a crisis" to expose it.
Morning, {fishie}! I think DF is being too hard on himself again.
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:41:32am |
re: #302 thedopefishlives
There is an argument to be made that some of the first responder funding after 9/11 was not necessary - enabling communities that had little risk of being a terror target to buy shiny new equipment that they would have little need of ever using, even as major metro areas still didn't get sufficient funding for their equipment needs (think NYC, Chicago, LA, Miami, DC, etc.).
Except that it was a question of where the funding went, not that the overall funding level was insufficient. Congress created a funding formula to give funds to all states, with additional amounts to key locales, but it was a guarantee that some places would get money that had no reason to see it. Political expediency meant that to secure funding for the whole package, some areas that had no risk were to partake in the funds while other areas would get shortchanged.
But find me any Congress critter who would shortchange their own district on those funds. I doubt that you'd find any - even Cantor.
He's full of [deleted].
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:46:15am |
re: #305 iceweasel
Morning, {fishie}! I think DF is being too hard on himself again.
What I mean is that during the crisis, I'd likely have a stronger reaction to a store being looted by blacks than by whites. The reaction is immediate and visceral, its not subject to reason. Crisis situations are full of fear and strong emotions, and fear of "the other" is very likely to come up. I'm trying to deliver an honest analysis is all.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:46:31am |
re: #306 lawhawk
Well, the phrase in the headline was "Massive Cuts". I'd argue that a proper reapportionment, with trimming, would probably not amount to "massive".
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:50:16am |
Man does this sound familiar...
Cheney: I Don’t Think Iraq Damaged Our Reputation Around The World
In an interview with NBC's Matt Lauer on Tuesday, former Vice President Dick Cheney defended many of the most controversial decisions made during his tenure, including waterboarding ("the fact is it worked") and the decision to go to war in Iraq ("I think it was sound policy that dealt with a very serious problem").
"I don't think that it damaged our reputation around the world," Cheney said of Iraq. "I just don't believe that. I think critics here at home would argue that."
Got this from a Tweet:
@TPM Talking Points Memo
In his latest attempt to rewrite history, Cheney says he doesn't think the Iraq War hurt US reputation abroad: [Link: t.co...]
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:53:01am |
re: #302 thedopefishlives
I had to do a double take on that one, because we've been talking about Cantor's idiotic no-funding-without-spending-cuts for a few days now. He really wants to cut funding for first responders? Is the guy legitimately mentally deficient or something?
No, I'd say Eric Cantor is being very "Line-of-Sight Oriented", to use a term I created last year. In Cantor's case, it means that he is entirely focused on delivering the promised numbers for the budget cuts. He does not believe his party base will accept any excuse, so he is being dogmatic. The best way to change it would be to get a major Tea Party group to agree that some cuts should be set aside for a year in order to fund hurricane relief. That would give Cantor some flexibility.
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 30, 2011 7:59:03am |
Wikileaks leaks more US diplomatic cables, refusing to redact the names of people with whom those US diplomats talked with. This is a huge problem, since the lives of those people could be in danger from reprisals.
A sampling of the documents showed that the newly published cables included the names of some people who had spoken confidentially to American diplomats and whose identities were marked in the cables with the warning “strictly protect.”
State Department officials and human rights activists have been concerned that such diplomatic sources, including activists, journalists and academics in authoritarian countries, could face reprisals, including dismissal from their jobs, prosecution or violence.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:02:12am |
re: #311 lawhawk
Wikileaks leaks more US diplomatic cables, refusing to redact the names of people with whom those US diplomats talked with. This is a huge problem, since the lives of those people could be in danger from reprisals.
The thing is, Assange and his crew flat-out don't care. In fact, they may even consider it a bonus - our inability to protect those named in the cables only makes us look worse.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:04:01am |
re: #303 lawhawk
Nope.. nothing to see there. I've got my racist-colored glasses on. /
The reporting from the storm by some outlets was atrocious, and that's just one example. You don't have to dig far to find a whole lot more.
So far, haven't seen reports of that ilk in the Irene coverage, and we've got extensive flooding around here that will last through the week - and some places upstate in NY and VT are even harder hit - completely wiped out by flash floods, but don't get the kind of coverage that a downstate flood would get because not as many people affected, but hundreds of bridges are out, several major highways are still shuttered, and there's no ETA on when they will reopen.
Nate Silver at 538 posts some metrics showing that the media attention to Irene was basically in line with its historical ranking in deaths and damage. The meme of 'media hype' seems to be hype.
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:06:37am |
re: #311 lawhawk
Wikileaks leaks more US diplomatic cables, refusing to redact the names of people with whom those US diplomats talked with. This is a huge problem, since the lives of those people could be in danger from reprisals.
Thank goodness no one was ever killed around the world because of the US government.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:08:55am |
re: #314 Gus 802
Thank goodness no one was ever killed around the world because of the US government.
U.S. Government Scientists Spent 1940s Infecting Guatemala with STDs
Nope, nothin' wrong here.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:09:01am |
re: #299 iceweasel
You would really call it looting just because of someone's skin colour? I can't believe that.
Lol I can.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:11:01am |
re: #307 Dark_Falcon
What I mean is that during the crisis, I'd likely have a stronger reaction to a store being looted by blacks than by whites. The reaction is immediate and visceral, its not subject to reason.
Congratulations, you're a kneejerk bigot.
No excuses, approach the issue like a grownup, not a child. People like you land innocents in trouble, and perpetuate the worst stereotypes.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:11:53am |
re: #314 Gus 802
Thank goodness no one was ever killed around the world because of the US government.
You're missing the point, Gus. These people aren't being put in danger "because of the US government", they are being put in danger because some Aussie asshole has decided to release their names as part of his campaign against the US. This is about Julian Assange's sociopathic lack of concern for others, not about the US government's failings. The failing of the US government this case was its enlistment of Bradley Manning.
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:13:10am |
re: #318 Dark_Falcon
You're missing the point, Gus. These people aren't being put in danger "because of the US government", they are being put in danger because some Aussie asshole has decided to release their names as part of his campaign against the US. This is about Julian Assange's sociopathic lack of concern for others, not about the US government's failings. The failing of the US government this case was its enlistment of Bradley Manning.
I get the point. You're probably missing my point.
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Achilles Tang Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:13:31am |
re: #314 Gus 802
Thank goodness no one was ever killed around the world because of the US government.
You really should try to direct a little more of your cynicism and contempt towards the more obvious and deserving targets of the day instead of pretending that the US should have no blemishes, even from generations ago.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:14:00am |
re: #298 Dark_Falcon
PeopleDumb bigots are more likely to see black people as criminals. So [rest of rationalization for this bullshit, axed]
You really should speak for yourself, and not "people". We too are "people", despite what you might have been told, and we do not see ourselves this way.
That's because we're more tapped in to "the social reality" than you are.
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:14:37am |
re: #320 Naso Tang
You really should try to direct a little more of your cynicism and contempt towards the more obvious and deserving targets of the day instead of pretending that the US should have no blemishes, even from generations ago.
Very original.
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:15:15am |
re: #315 iceweasel
U.S. Government Scientists Spent 1940s Infecting Guatemala with STDs
Nope, nothin' wrong here.
Fear not Ice! Tis just a blemish.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:15:25am |
re: #319 Gus 802
I get the point. You're probably missing my point.
No, I understand your point. But to say that US deserves blame is not to excuse Assange's actions. What he is doing is heartless and wrong and it is not hypocritical to say so.
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Achilles Tang Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:15:27am |
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:15:29am |
re: #300 Lidane
How the hell does this make any sense?
Eric Cantor Won’t Support Any Hurricane Disaster Funding Without Massive Cuts To First Responders
That's almost as idiotic as the state of Texas cutting the budget for the state service that fights wildfires while blasting the POTUS for not spending enough to fight wildfires. Derp.
Yeah I don't understand Cantor at all here. Then again I rarely do. Sucks he's in one of the most safe districts for either party statewide since I've love to see him get a challenge.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:15:36am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:17:06am |
By the pricking of my thumbs,
Something Wingnut this way comes...
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Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:17:30am |
re: #323 Gus 802
Fear not Ice! Tis just a blemish.
For perspective, it doesn't read like we were doing anything in Guatemala that we weren't doing in Alabama.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:17:53am |
re: #327 iceweasel
Amurka, gus! Love it or leave it!!!11!
or do both, like me. ;)
I love telling that to cons, now that one of the looters is in the WH. /Schadenfreude
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bratwurst Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:18:30am |
re: #330 Decatur Deb
For perspective, it doesn't read like we were doing anything in Guatemala that we weren't doing in Alabama.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Well that's...um...comforting!
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:18:45am |
re: #331 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I love telling that to cons, now that one of the looters is in the WH. /Schadenfreude
Heh. Me too.
I kinda love sticking it to them that I'm already an expat, too.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:18:55am |
re: #326 HappyWarrior
Yeah I don't understand Cantor at all here. Then again I rarely do. Sucks he's in one of the most safe districts for either party statewide since I've love to see him get a challenge.
Most of the House leadership from both parties comes from safe districts. They're the ones who stay in Congress long enough to ascend to leadership spots. The Congresspeople in swing districts rarely last more than 4-5 terms before they are voted out when the district swings back the other way.
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:19:09am |
re: #327 iceweasel
Amurka, gus! Love it or leave it!!!11!
or do both, like me. ;)
Just shut up and sit down! America, fuck ya! Don't want to hear anything approaching that moral relativism! I'm a progressive [sic] -- hey I believe in climate change -- but I have limits!
//
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:19:28am |
re: #330 Decatur Deb
For perspective, it doesn't read like we were doing anything in Guatemala that we weren't doing in Alabama.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
What kinda perspective is that? US gubbmint infects brown people, regardless of where they live?
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:19:34am |
re: #330 Decatur Deb
For perspective, it doesn't read like we were doing anything in Guatemala that we weren't doing in Alabama.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
It's mindboggling to think that ended in 1972. Terrible stuff that was. I was watching an online documentary about radiation experiments done on blacks in Indiana also.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:20:13am |
re: #335 Gus 802
Just shut up and sit down! America, fuck ya! Don't want to hear anything approaching that moral relativism! I'm a progressive [sic] -- hey I believe in climate change -- but I have limits!
//
So, what's the point here? I should feel bad for being a patriotic American who loves his country, lumps (rather sizable ones from the look of it) and all?
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Achilles Tang Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:21:17am |
re: #300 Lidane
How the hell does this make any sense?
Eric Cantor Won’t Support Any Hurricane Disaster Funding Without Massive Cuts To First Responders
That's almost as idiotic as the state of Texas cutting the budget for the state service that fights wildfires while blasting the POTUS for not spending enough to fight wildfires. Derp.
I heard him on this. He makes the usual GOP "family" analogy about unexpected expenses.
A family would simply reduce spending further; they wouldn't take out a second mortgage. Never.//
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:21:28am |
re: #337 HappyWarrior
It's mindboggling to think that ended in 1972. Terrible stuff that was. I was watching an online documentary about radiation experiments done on blacks in Indiana also.
Well, why not? We're just a bunch of born criminals anyway. rotfl
It's just part of the social reality of America.
Lol fucking assholes. I did not need this so early in the morning. e_e
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:21:47am |
re: #338 thedopefishlives
So, what's the point here? I should feel bad for being a patriotic American who loves his country, lumps (rather sizable ones from the look of it) and all?
It's not about you. It's a general philosophical question. A moral or ethical question. It is in fact about moral relativism which is actually good practice for the mind.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:22:04am |
re: #336 iceweasel
What kinda perspective is that? US gubbmint infects brown people, regardless of where they live?
Takes the 'colonialist' element out of the story, unless you're ready to see
Tuskegee as a colony. It's also important to remind the youts that there has been a bit of progress in the last 90 years.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:22:21am |
re: #334 Dark_Falcon
Most of the House leadership from both parties comes from safe districts. They're the ones who stay in Congress long enough to ascend to leadership spots. The Congresspeople in swing districts rarely last more than 4-5 terms before they are voted out when the district swings back the other way.
Yeah I am aware of that. When you see leadership lose their seat, it's because of a wave e.g. Tom Foley in 1994. Now for what it's worth it's surprised me that the last two Democratic leaders in the Senate- Reid and Tom Daschle before him came from competitive states. but the Senate is a different animal.
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Achilles Tang Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:23:07am |
re: #327 iceweasel
Amurka, gus! Love it or leave it!!!11!
or do both, like me. ;)
Not my meaning at all, but I understand the knee jerk.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:23:59am |
re: #342 Decatur Deb
Takes the 'colonialist' element out of the story, unless you're ready to see
Tuskegee as a colony. It's also important to remind the youts that there has been a bit of progress in the last 90 years.
I'd argue that we've made more social progress in the last 50 years than we had the previous 175 years.
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:24:16am |
re: #344 Naso Tang
Not my meaning at all, but I understand the knee jerk.
To every knee jerk there is an equal yet opposite knee jerk.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:24:56am |
re: #342 Decatur Deb
Takes the 'colonialist' element out of the story, unless you're ready to see
Tuskegee as a colony. It's also important to remind the youts that there has been a bit of progress in the last 90 years.
What if you think America's attitide towards black people is colonialist, to say the least?
I'm not interested in playing a round of Amurka bingo, where I cite abuses and you remind me that Dubya spent a lot of money in Africa.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:25:57am |
re: #345 HappyWarrior
I'd argue that we've made more social progress in the last 50 years than we had the previous 175 years.
Despite obvious setbacks, progress is a rising curve. 2012 will show how durable it is.
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iossarian Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:26:16am |
re: #347 iceweasel
What if you think America's attitide towards black people is colonialist, to say the least?
I'm not interested in playing a round of Amurka bingo, where I cite abuses and you remind me that Dubya spent a lot of money in Africa.
Ooh! I'll play!
Dubya spent a lot of money in Africa as long as they agreed to virtually eliminate contraception from their public health plans.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:26:36am |
re: #341 Gus 802
It's not about you. It's a general philosophical question. A moral or ethical question. It is in fact about moral relativism which is actually good practice for the mind.
Well, you caught me on a bad day because I don't play the moral relativism game. Bad is bad, and while America has done plenty of bad, that doesn't mean that other people get to do bad things in the name of taking free potshots at it.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:26:39am |
re: #337 HappyWarrior
It's mindboggling to think that ended in 1972. Terrible stuff that was. I was watching an online documentary about radiation experiments done on blacks in Indiana also.
This lasted even longer and was not just limited to Blacks, either.
Forget going Godwin - we have conservative racial hygiene laws, designed to breed out our natural criminality, to thank for NC's forced sterilization program, as well as that of other states including my own.
People in NC might even eeee get r-e-p-a-r-a-t-i-o-n-s eeee for it. I hope more do, so more con heads will explode.
Filthy conservatives.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:26:52am |
re: #350 iossarian
Ooh! I'll play!
Dubya spent a lot of money in Africa as long as they agreed to virtually eliminate contraception from their public health plans.
Damn, that was my free zone point in the middle!
;)
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:27:38am |
re: #351 thedopefishlives
Well, you caught me on a bad day because I don't play the moral relativism game. Bad is bad, and while America has done plenty of bad, that doesn't mean that other people get to do bad things in the name of taking free potshots at it.
Poor America. Always the victim in these rhetorical questions.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:27:52am |
re: #352 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Link didn't work for me.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:28:36am |
re: #355 iceweasel
Sorry try this [Link: againsttheirwill.journalnow.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:29:14am |
re: #340 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Well, why not? We're just a bunch of born criminals anyway. rotfl
Lol fucking assholes. I did not need this so early in the morning. e_e
I don't actually believe black people are born criminals. But in crisis situations emotions can overwhelm reason and fears that in calmer times one keeps suppressed (Because I know they are wrong and irrational) can come to the fore. I was trying to be honest about how I react to things. I try very hard to tell the truth as best as I know it. Maybe I'd surprise myself and do better than I think I would, but I'm not going to use than as a working assumption.
Can't you see a situation where you might react in fashion that in calmer times you would know wasn't the best reaction?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:29:21am |
re: #354 Gus 802
Poor America. Always the victim in these rhetorical questions.
Hey, need I remind you that you're the one that brought it up in the first place? We could play this same game about any number of topics.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:29:25am |
re: #356 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Sorry try this [Link: againsttheirwill.journalnow.com...]
Thanks, that's great.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:29:45am |
too stupid for the Tea Party....
Christine O’Donnell Won’t Appear After All at Tea Party Rally
Tea Party of America’s cofounder, Charlie Gruschow, said the group withdrew Ms. O’Donnell’s after receiving numerous “emails from a lot of tea party folks that were very disappointed that she would be speaking.”
“We decided not to have her speak,” Mr. Gruschow said. “We felt it was in the best interest of the movement.”
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iossarian Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:29:59am |
It always kills me that American foreign policy is basically: fuck y'all, but then Americans get really upset that people in other parts of the world might say mean things about America in return.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:30:05am |
re: #356 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Sorry try this [Link: againsttheirwill.journalnow.com...]
Thanks going to watch when I get some free time in between classes/reading. Sadly, it doesn't shock me at all that this stuff happened. When an entire group can be characterized as less than human, shit like this does happen.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:30:40am |
re: #347 iceweasel
What if you think America's attitide towards black people is colonialist, to say the least?
I'm not interested in playing a round of Amurka bingo, where I cite abuses and you remind me that Dubya spent a lot of money in Africa.
Colonialism makes a perverted kind of us v. them sense. Denying the integrity of your own people is insanely self-defeating.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:30:56am |
re: #361 iossarian
It always kills me that American foreign policy is basically: fuck y'all, but then Americans get really upset that people in other parts of the world might say mean things about America in return.
Say mean things if you like, but exposing diplomatic secrets that could get people killed? Now you're playing a whole different ball game.
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Achilles Tang Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:31:06am |
re: #346 Gus 802
To every knee jerk there is an equal yet opposite knee jerk.
No there isn't. I respect your opinion on most issues most of the time and am seldom critical, but you seem to have a bee up your ass about the US in general and historically as well, to the point where your position becomes describable as Presentism.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:31:06am |
re: #356 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Sorry try this [Link: againsttheirwill.journalnow.com...]
It's a link to a project by the Winston-Salem Journal, a mea culpa of sorts, for their past role in trumpeting the forced sterilization/racial hygiene program.
Just waiting to see how the cons will spin this as ACORN/SEIU progressive fascism, now that the Nazis have been transformed into leftist social gospel liberals e_e
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:31:13am |
re: #358 thedopefishlives
Hey, need I remind you that you're the one that brought it up in the first place? We could play this same game about any number of topics.
I'm not the one that's complaining.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:32:07am |
re: #363 Decatur Deb
Colonialism makes a perverted kind of us v. them sense. Denying the integrity of your own people is insanely self-defeating.
The point is that America hasn't always seen black people as "our own people", and arguably still doesn't.
There are loads of people who aren't always seen as "our own people", like the poor, the mentally ill, women, children.
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:32:20am |
re: #365 Naso Tang
No there isn't. I respect your opinion on most issues most of the time and am seldom critical, but you seem to have a bee up your ass about the US in general and historically as well, to the point where your position becomes describable as Presentism.
There isn't? How Randian.
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Achilles Tang Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:32:30am |
re: #361 iossarian
It always kills me that American foreign policy is basically: fuck y'all,
That is an inane comment.
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iossarian Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:32:41am |
re: #364 thedopefishlives
Say mean things if you like, but exposing diplomatic secrets that could get people killed? Now you're playing a whole different ball game.
OK, I should rephrase that.
It kills me that American foreign policy is basically: fuck y'all, but then some Americans get upset that people in other countries have an attitude towards America which is essentially: fuck you too.
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Lidane Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:32:44am |
re: #360 Killgore Trout
too stupid for the Tea Party...
Christine O’Donnell Won’t Appear After All at Tea Party Rally
And yet they still love Caribou Barbie. WTF.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:32:54am |
re: #366 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
it's a fantastic link, I've saved it, and am reading a little now. Thanks again!
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:33:07am |
The problem I have with some of our foreign policy endeavors especially in the Cold War was that we seemed to care more about a person being anti-communist than being pro-democracy and despite what rabid anti communists may say, the two are not always comparable. The Shah of Iran, Guatemala, and of course Pinochet in Chile. And then there are those who take any criticism of our past doings in history classes as somehow attacking America. If you ask me, it's good to learn from mistakes so we don't make them again rather than act like America fuck yeah to steal a phrase from Team America World Police.
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:33:16am |
re: #343 HappyWarrior
Reid, had he faced a better GOP candidate than the nutter Angle, would have lost his seat. Nevada chose the lesser of two evils, and stuck with Reid.
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:33:59am |
Gotta love the personal attacks coming from Naso though. Classic.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:34:06am |
re: #360 Killgore Trout
too stupid for the Tea Party...
Christine O’Donnell Won’t Appear After All at Tea Party Rally
She's a loser, and people have figured that out. Losers don't enhance rallies, they detract from them. Christine O'Donnell was the Great Tea-Party Mistake of 2010.
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Achilles Tang Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:34:09am |
re: #371 iossarian
OK, I should rephrase that.
It kills me that American foreign policy is basically: fuck y'all, but then some Americans get upset that people in other countries have an attitude towards America which is essentially: fuck you too.
You think cause and effect is entirely one way it seems.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:34:16am |
re: #375 lawhawk
Reid, had he faced a better GOP candidate than the nutter Angle, would have lost his seat. Nevada chose the lesser of two evils, and stuck with Reid.
Yeah, Angle's primary challenger easily would have beat Reid in a GE.
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iossarian Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:34:44am |
re: #370 Naso Tang
That is an inane comment.
Give me one example of American foreign policy which assists a foreign country at the expense of America.
re: #378 Naso Tang
You think cause and effect is entirely one way it seems.
No, not at all. I merely find it amusing when people complain about behavior that they themselves are exhibiting.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:35:36am |
re: #376 Gus 802
Why do you hate Amurka, Gus? /
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:35:48am |
Apparently I have a bee up my ass for having an open mind and being a free thinker. Must suck to have a closed mind.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:36:05am |
re: #368 iceweasel
The point is that America hasn't always seen black people as "our own people", and arguably still doesn't.
We already had one, DF, try and make excuses for clinging to the same exact mentality, not even 15 minutes ago.
And yet, people seem shocked and confused when Sarah Palin spouts about "Real Americans" in a general election campaign. Lol please.
You can set your watch by it: in another 15, he'll twist himself into a helpless victim because of how I talk about his perception of me. "But but Im just trying to be HONEST! Pity ME!!!"
Lol dhimmitude mentality.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:36:30am |
re: #382 Gus 802
Apparently I have a bee up my ass for having an open mind and being a free thinker. Must suck to have a closed mind.
For one thing, there'd be no way for the bee to fly out!
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:37:20am |
re: #381 iceweasel
Why do you hate Amurka, Gus? /
Freedom Fries and Lee Greenwood!
Oh go piss up a rope!!11ty
//
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:40:22am |
re: #285 lostlakehiker
The roots would regrow, or they wouldn't. If they do, the sidewalk suffers. If they don't, the tree is likely to die and then you have to take it out anyway.
The sidewalks are at least 30 years old. There are some bumps in the concrete where the roots have pushed them up so they do have a point...but I'd rather keep the old sidewalks with the trees. New modern sidewalks and curbs are going to stand out in an old neighborhood like this. BTW, I'm not a big fan of trees in general so it's kind of a weird feeling for me rooting for more of them.
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CuriousLurker Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:40:44am |
re: #384 iceweasel
Drive-by comment: Hey, ice! *waves* I saw this the other day and it made me think of you & Jimmah, so I just wanted to pass it along in case you haven't already seen it. I thought it was pretty cute. ;o)
Going back to work now...
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:41:32am |
re: #383 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
We already had one, DF, try and make excuses for clinging to the same exact mentality, not even 15 minutes ago.
And yet, people seem shocked and confused when Sarah Palin spouts about "Real Americans" in a general election campaign. Lol please.
You can set your watch by it: in another 15, he'll twist himself into a helpless victim because of how I talk about his perception of me. "But but Im just trying to be HONEST! Pity ME!!!"
Lol dhimmitude mentality.
I normally agree with you, but not about DF. He's pretty hard on himself. Sometimes he says stuff that shocks me about himself. I have to believe there is a better way to convert people than by beating up on them.
I don't think he's an average con and don't think he deserves to be beat on. Well, maybe sometimes, but not much. He really does think about points that are made here.
I value his honesty too. He admits to things which I think most people wouldn't admit to.
Basically, for every DF saying these things in this way, there's a thousand unregenerate cons who think like that and don't see anything wrong with it.
I'll probably piss him off by saying this, but I really think of DF as being on step one of the 12 steps to rejecting conservatism: he admits there is a problem and announces that he's helpless in the face of it.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:41:48am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:43:48am |
re: #388 CuriousLurker
Drive-by comment: Hey, ice! *waves* I saw this the other day and it made me think of you & Jimmah, so I just wanted to pass it along in case you haven't already seen it. I thought it was pretty cute. ;o)
[Video]Going back to work now...
Oh my god, that's hilarious! I've seen it before and it's funny because it's true-- whenever we have voice recognition anything, for phone menus and such, either I have to do the talking or Jimmah has to put on his (horrible) English accent-- love it!
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CuriousLurker Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:45:22am |
re: #391 iceweasel
Oh my god, that's hilarious! I've seen it before and it's funny because it's true-- whenever we have voice recognition anything, for phone menus and such, either I have to do the talking or Jimmah has to put on his (horrible) English accent-- love it!
LOL!
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:48:27am |
re: #307 Dark_Falcon
What I mean is that during the crisis, I'd likely have a stronger reaction to a store being looted by blacks than by whites. The reaction is immediate and visceral, its not subject to reason. Crisis situations are full of fear and strong emotions, and fear of "the other" is very likely to come up. I'm trying to deliver an honest analysis is all.
Not to rough you up or anything but don't you think that says something pretty serious about your worldview? I get pounded on (very slightly anymore) because my dog whistle is forever broken. When I hear gangbanger, food stamps, looter, drug addict, or welfare I don't automatically think "black".
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:48:30am |
re: #390 thedopefishlives
//
Hey, that's my line, jerkface./
It was actually Mandy's line. She also was known for posting Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA".
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:49:00am |
re: #392 CuriousLurker
LOL!
Thank you for posting that, I love it and had forgotten about it. It's so true!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:49:41am |
re: #377 Dark_Falcon
She's a loser, and people have figured that out. Losers don't enhance rallies, they detract from them. Christine O'Donnell was the Great Tea-Party Mistake of 2010.
You're wrong about that. The tea party itself is the tea party mistake of 2010.
Christine O'Donnell is simply the crowning glory of everything wrong with extremist conservatism. Dumb, deliberately ignorant, believes in nonsense as fact, tries to rely solely on looks and superficiality as if it's some kind of merit/virtue, retrograde social views, not an original idea in her stupid head.
She was not a "mistake". She is one of many in a natural progression revealing what conservatism is.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:50:39am |
re: #377 Dark_Falcon
She's a loser, and people have figured that out. Losers don't enhance rallies, they detract from them. Christine O'Donnell was the Great Tea-Party Mistake of 2010.
It is a glimmer of hope that wingnuts are wising up to these unelectable candidates but keep in mind that it's a Palin event. Sharron Angle spoke at a Tea Party event last week. Rick Perry, Michelle Bachmann are still popular candidates. Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor are alienating voters will nutty and reckless legislation.
The GOP has a very long way to go.
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:50:55am |
re: #387 RogueOne
The sidewalks are at least 30 years old. There are some bumps in the concrete where the roots have pushed them up so they do have a point...but I'd rather keep the old sidewalks with the trees. New modern sidewalks and curbs are going to stand out in an old neighborhood like this. BTW, I'm not a big fan of trees in general so it's kind of a weird feeling for me rooting for more of them.
What kind of trees are they?
Some of the fast growing species including some kinds of maple favored for shading streets need to be taken out after a period of time like thirty years. They start dying and rotting from the core out and become a danger in terms of falling over and/or dropping limbs. I've also seen utilities take out trees because otherwise they have to constantly deal with trimming them to keep them clear of the power and utility lines.
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CuriousLurker Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:51:31am |
re: #395 iceweasel
Thank you for posting that, I love it and had forgotten about it. It's so true!
It cracks me up every time I watch it, especially the last minute. Too funny, especially now that I know it's true about the accent & VR!
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Lidane Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:51:58am |
re: #398 Killgore Trout
The GOP has a very long way to go.
It took 40 years of deliberate effort for the GOP to get to their current level of abject fail. It's going to take a while to get themselves back to being something close to normal.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:52:23am |
re: #393 RogueOne
Not to rough you up or anything but don't you think that says something pretty serious about your worldview? I get pounded on (very slightly anymore) because my dog whistle is forever broken. When I hear gangbanger, food stamps, looter, drug addict, or welfare I don't automatically think "black".
It says something pretty serious about my emotional life, but that's something I can only fix slowly. While my thoughts and conscious actions are consistent and are never in support of racism, my emotions are far more erratic and conflicted. I've been dealing with that sort of inconsistency my whole life. I work on it constantly, but it is very slow going, with progress measured in years not weeks.
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:52:37am |
re: #391 iceweasel
Oh my god, that's hilarious! I've seen it before and it's funny because it's true-- whenever we have voice recognition anything, for phone menus and such, either I have to do the talking or Jimmah has to put on his (horrible) English accent-- love it!
Would a working Scottish accent voice recognition system be a workable security item in areas outside of Scotland?
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:54:20am |
re: #405 oaktree
Would a working Scottish accent voice recognition system be a workable security item in areas outside of Scotland?
No, almost certainly not. But I have to wonder if people from the north of england have the same difficulty with VR systems. The northern accent is similar to some Scottish accents.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:54:39am |
re: #405 oaktree
Would a working Scottish accent voice recognition system be a workable security item in areas outside of Scotland?
Heck, no! :D
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:54:40am |
re: #399 oaktree
Some towns are changing the rules for placement of trees along rights of way to reduce possible storm damage, and sidewalk replacements are now taking potential storm damage into account - you can't just cut out roots on one side and expect the tree to last during major storms.
Meanwhile, whoever planned to cut down trees along Route 208 in Fair Lawn 2-3 weeks ago looks like a genius right now. The route used to have a bunch of old growth trees hanging down over the road, which is used as a bypass for major traffic heading to I 287 from Route 4/17. They pruned them back severely so that they didn't overhang the road. I don't think there were significant closures on 208. That was the exception rather than the rule, as DOT/towns/NJ Transit have cut back on funds to do that kind of work - leaving the potential for disruptions during storm events.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:54:57am |
re: #393 RogueOne
Not to rough you up or anything but don't you think that says something pretty serious about your worldview? I get pounded on (very slightly anymore) because my dog whistle is forever broken. When I hear gangbanger, food stamps, looter, drug addict, or welfare I don't automatically think "black".
Lol please...Mr. Nice Guy I'm Just Being Honest Perry Voter is the same person who harangued WUB for weeks because of some general remarks about a state-level GOP, which DF took oh-so personally against him and his. 9_9
I don't see any reason to tiptoe around his kneejerk, bigoted sensibilities about us and all our innate criminality. /
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:54:59am |
re: #399 oaktree
What kind of trees are they?
Some of the fast growing species including some kinds of maple favored for shading streets need to be taken out after a period of time like thirty years. They start dying and rotting from the core out and become a danger in terms of falling over and/or dropping limbs. I've also seen utilities take out trees because otherwise they have to constantly deal with trimming them to keep them clear of the power and utility lines.
A nice mix of oak and, I think, maple. The utility lines run behind the houses so there isn't a chance of falling branches taking them out. The street dept guys said they're being removed so they can put in new sidewalks. That's nice, I appreciate the improvements, but I liked driving down my in-town street through what looked like a tree tunnel. It's pretty and I like pretty!
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:55:14am |
re: #401 CuriousLurker
It cracks me up every time I watch it, especially the last minute. Too funny, especially now that I know it's true about the accent & VR!
the last minute is the best, but I also love the point where they begin to lose it and start abusing the elevator. Ha!
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:55:18am |
re: #391 iceweasel
Oh my god, that's hilarious! I've seen it before and it's funny because it's true-- whenever we have voice recognition anything, for phone menus and such, either I have to do the talking or Jimmah has to put on his (horrible) English accent-- love it!
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:55:56am |
Another one that's coming up...
POV | Better This World - Documentary Trailer - POV 2011 | PBS
It's about how FBI informants create terrorists and criminals.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:56:38am |
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:57:03am |
re: #403 Dark_Falcon
It says something pretty serious about my emotional life, but that's something I can only fix slowly. While my thoughts and conscious actions are consistent and are never in support of racism, my emotions are far more erratic and conflicted. I've been dealing with that sort of inconsistency my whole life. I work on it constantly, but it is very slow going, with progress measured in years not weeks.
You need some non-white friends and relatives. I get the impression from a lot of people on the left and the right that they only hang out with straight white people on a daily basis. I can't imagine anything more boring than hanging out with a crowd just like me. Granted, it would be a pretty crowd but still...///
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:57:28am |
re: #410 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Lol please...Mr. Nice Guy I'm Just Being Honest Perry Voter is the same person who harangued WUB for weeks because of some general remarks about a state-level GOP, which DF took oh-so personally against him and his. 9_9
ok, I missed that.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:57:32am |
re: #407 iceweasel
No, almost certainly not. But I have to wonder if people from the north of england have the same difficulty with VR systems. The northern accent is similar to some Scottish accents.
We gave up watching "Wire in the Blood" just because of the accent. Good stories, but we missed too much even with the sound cranked.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:58:08am |
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:58:51am |
re: #410 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
...and I don't see the point of jumping on people who hold different views than I. I happen to love WUB and DF even though I don't hold the same views or passion that they do. To each their own but I'd still buy a round of drinks for either.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:58:55am |
Btw, Charles, comments posted from Spy mode appear to be un-editable. Dunno if this was intended, or if it's possible to fix.
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Firstinla Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:59:03am |
re: #397 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
You're wrong about that. The tea party itself is the tea party mistake of 2010.
She was not a "mistake". She is one of many in a natural progression revealing what conservatism is.
I always think of "natural progression" as a form of "evolution" which the cons reject as a unicorn theorem.
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:59:13am |
re: #407 iceweasel
No, almost certainly not. But I have to wonder if people from the north of england have the same difficulty with VR systems. The northern accent is similar to some Scottish accents.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Something like this... (though it is more straight phonetics)
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:59:26am |
re: #418 Decatur Deb
We gave up watching "Wire in the Blood" just because of the accent. Good stories, but we missed too much even with the sound cranked.
I liked that show. Don't remember where it was supposed to be set.
I loved the movie Ratcatcher, set in 70's glasgow-- I believe that was shown with subtitles in the US, because the accent was too authentic. (read: impossible for americans to understand).
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wiffersnapper Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:59:30am |
Sounds like more rapture nonsense to me!
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:01:22am |
Seriously, Who wouldn't want to go to a party hosted by WUB? That has to be a blast!
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:01:22am |
US 'wasted $30bn on Afghanistan and Iraq' over decade
The US government has wasted $30bn (£18bn) in contracts in Afghanistan and Iraq over the last decade, according to a bi-partisan spending commission.
The commission on wartime contracting blamed an over-reliance on contractors, poor planning and fraud for the waste.
It had evidence of lax accountability and inadequate competition, it said...
Got 4 loads of laundry to do today. Good thing I have 400 bucks to do it. //
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:01:58am |
re: #418 Decatur Deb
We gave up watching "Wire in the Blood" just because of the accent. Good stories, but we missed too much even with the sound cranked.
Load in subtitles..... I have to do it all the time for UK movies.
[Link: www.allsubs.org...]
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Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:02:05am |
re: #424 iceweasel
I liked that show. Don't remember where it was supposed to be set.
I loved the movie Ratcatcher, set in 70's glasgow-- I believe that was shown with subtitles in the US, because the accent was too authentic. (read: impossible for americans to understand).
Somewhere cold, wet, and northern--Northumberland, maybe. Have the feeling British viewers from Salisbury had the same problem. (Love Inspector Lewis' Geordie accent though.)
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:02:10am |
re: #424 iceweasel
I liked that show. Don't remember where it was supposed to be set.
I loved the movie Ratcatcher, set in 70's glasgow-- I believe that was shown with subtitles in the US, because the accent was too authentic. (read: impossible for americans to understand).
I enjoy movies like that. And that's funny about the subtitles since whenever my parents watch a British movie especially one with very urban accents, they feel the need to subtle it. They feel the same way about Irish films. I do better with those, I like to think that's because I studied in Co Galway for a month a couple years back.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:03:41am |
re: #428 Mr Pancakes
Load in subtitles... i have to do it all the time for UK movies.
[Link: www.allsubs.org...]
We saw "The Full Monty" in an American-speaking town in Israel. The box office gave out a small English-English glossary with the tickets.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:04:43am |
re: #424 iceweasel
I liked that show. Don't remember where it was supposed to be set.
I loved the movie Ratcatcher, set in 70's glasgow-- I believe that was shown with subtitles in the US, because the accent was too authentic. (read: impossible for americans to understand).
The Mrs. Fish and I went to Ireland for our honeymoon. I was actually impressed with how much I was able to understand, even out in the far countryside. What's even more amusing is that when we got back, we went down to the local Irish pub for a dinner date. After we were waited on, we informed our waiter that his (genuine) accent didn't sound Irish, and inquired as to where he was from. He beamed at us and proudly informed us that he was from Glasgow, and was curious how we were able to tell the difference.
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:05:00am |
re: #424 iceweasel
I liked that show. Don't remember where it was supposed to be set.
I loved the movie Ratcatcher, set in 70's glasgow-- I believe that was shown with subtitles in the US, because the accent was too authentic. (read: impossible for americans to understand).
I was in Athens, Georgia in 1990 or so and had two men walk by me on the street having a conversation. It was entirely in slang/street talk with a southern accent added on. Could not understand any of it beyond picking up a few words to indicate that the base language was English.
I do find it interesting how the various cultural bits seem to carry across everywhere, or sit in their own little backwaters. I joked on vacation that the best known military figure in Southeast Asia was Colonel Sanders. KFC is everywhere...
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:05:38am |
re: #430 HappyWarrior
I enjoy movies like that. And that's funny about the subtitles since whenever my parents watch a British movie especially one with very urban accents, they feel the need to subtle it. They feel the same way about Irish films. I do better with those, I like to think that's because I studied in Co Galway for a month a couple years back.
Ooh, Galway must have been fun!
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:06:13am |
re: #432 thedopefishlives
That's an adorable story!
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:06:30am |
The weirdest video from the hurricane aftermath has to come from a national guard unit in Manville NJ.
Those are National Guard units driving UNDER the flood waters. At least until they started floating under the water and themselves needed a rescue.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:06:35am |
I still think Churchill said it best about Americans and the British that they are two people separated by a common language. The other neat thing for me as an English minor is seeing how different dialects are used in literature. I remember a Skakespeare play I read that heavily exagerrated a Welsh character's accent, an accent to an average American probably sounds like an English one but to the British ear is much like our own dialects within regions.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:07:35am |
re: #434 iceweasel
Ooh, Galway must have been fun!
Loved it there, studied some Irish history/literature at NUI. And it's the land where my father's mother's people were from so it was a homecoming too.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:08:05am |
re: #417 iceweasel
ok, I missed that.
I'll explain, Ice.
WindUpBird made a remark that "Illinois Republicans would suck Klansmen's cocks to get their troughs filled" (his actual words). At the time, he meant that to apply to all active Republican office holders firstly, and then to GOP party members. As a member of my extended family is a Republican office holder in Illinois, several members of my family do contribute to the GOP, and my father and I actively attend local party events, I took his comment as an insult towards me and my family. The rift started when he refused to apologize for that remark. Last week, WUB rephrased his remark in such a way as to confine his attack to the party in general, and allowing that his words did not apply to all persons within the party. That ended the rift, as he had made clear these revised remarks were not intended to insult me or my family.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:09:11am |
re: #435 iceweasel
That's an adorable story!
The thing that struck me most was how amazed he was that we knew he wasn't Irish. It says something for the lack of globalization in the Midwest, in particular, that most people just blindly assume that anyone working in a bar speaking with a rough burr must be "Irish".
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:09:44am |
re: #439 Dark_Falcon
ok, thanks for the explanation. Sounds like a typical case of people talking past each other on the internets.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:09:47am |
re: #437 HappyWarrior
I still think Churchill said it best about Americans and the British that they are two people separated by a common language. The other neat thing for me as an English minor is seeing how different dialects are used in literature. I remember a Skakespeare play I read that heavily exagerrated a Welsh character's accent, an accent to an average American probably sounds like an English one but to the British ear is much like our own dialects within regions.
The Louisville Shakespeare-in-the-Park was supported for years by an impassioned angel who always got a bit part.
"Hay-all Caesar, beware the ides of March."
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:10:19am |
And since I hope to visit Pittsburgh next week I will need to drop in here -
[Link: www.piperspub.com...]
Been there before. The waiters take relish in the "if it's nae Scottish, it's crap" attitude.
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:11:19am |
re: #444 Lidane
Not the other way around mind you - Fox News, News Corp, and Drudge are the ones confusing people about climate change and Nye is providing facts.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:11:24am |
Never. Gets. Old.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:12:35am |
re: #444 Lidane
LOL forever:
Fox Contributor To Bill Nye: You're 'Confusing Our Viewers' On Climate Change (VIDEO)
Well I give Bill Nye a lot of credit- he tries to educate the schoolchildren of America about science and the children who are Fox News demographic as well. Always liked the guy, made science more enjoyable for this humanities guy.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:14:19am |
re: #443 oaktree
And since I hope to visit Pittsburgh next week I will need to drop in here -
[Link: www.piperspub.com...]Been there before. The waiters take relish in the "if it's nae Scottish, it's crap" attitude.
Cool!
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:15:28am |
re: #377 Dark_Falcon
She's a loser, and people have figured that out. Losers don't enhance rallies, they detract from them. Christine O'Donnell was the Great Tea-Party Mistake of 2010.
That is about what Karl Rove had to say about her (albeit in slightly more diplomatic terms) for which he was quickly smacked down and forced to walk himself back on it.
And if they can shut Karl Rove up, then nobody is going to dare to speak out against anyone they nominate, no matter how loony.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:16:10am |
Regarding the Irish and the Irish accent, I think there's a perception among many that every Irish accent sounds the same but there's diversity in that accent too. The Irish accent on the man who taught the literature portion of the course was an unique Irish-American accent as he was an American native who had been teaching in Ireland sometime. Apparently, my cousin who's lived in Wales the past 15 years has adapted something similar and her daughters speak an unique Welsh American accent. Then there was the man who taught the theatre portion of the course who had more less your stereotypical excitable Irish accent that you see in the movies. And the guy who taught the history course I took was a Belfast native with a more what I'd call relaxed accent. Great instructors the whole lot of them. It was an experience that I really enjoyed.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:17:57am |
re: #441 iceweasel
ok, thanks for the explanation. Sounds like a typical case of people talking past each other on the internets.
Not entirely. He really was in a bad mood and wanted to "slap-the-conservative" verbally. And then I wanted him to grovel and admit he was wrong, because I felt very insulted.
The actual turning point was when he Paged an article written by a man who as a boy had been cruelly abused during anti-gay "reparative therapy". I replied to the post he used to link to that page with "could you please apologize, so I can give this page the upding it so richly deserves." It was then that he rephrased his remarks. I finally wanted to praise him badly enough to bury the hatchet and he proved willing to do so as well.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:18:28am |
re: #452 HappyWarrior
It was a fun trip for us, because we started and ended in Dublin and did a little loop out into the southern countryside during the two weeks we were there. Listening to the changes in tone over those two weeks was awesome.
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subsailor68 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:18:45am |
re: #437 HappyWarrior
I still think Churchill said it best about Americans and the British that they are two people separated by a common language. The other neat thing for me as an English minor is seeing how different dialects are used in literature. I remember a Skakespeare play I read that heavily exagerrated a Welsh character's accent, an accent to an average American probably sounds like an English one but to the British ear is much like our own dialects within regions.
I wonder, could it be Fluellen in Henry V? Nice dialogue at about 3:00 in:
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steve_davis Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:19:21am |
re: #5 Stanley Sea
oh my fucking dog. This freak is running for president.
And no one of the Republican Sanity group says a word.
That's because the Republican Sanity group was raptured last Tuesday. So were the Unitarians, by the way. I bet nobody saw THAT coming! Oh, as well as your fucking dog! Though for reasons having to do population control, he doesn't do as much fucking as he once did, which it turns out has been a real disappointment to him so far.
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:19:56am |
re: #450 lawhawk
Only thing that could have made that even more entertaining is if David ended up pulling out a wand instead of the sonic screwdriver and put her under a spell (HP reference).... putting the geekdom over the top...
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:21:44am |
re: #455 subsailor68
I wonder, could it be Fluellen in Henry V? Nice dialogue at about 3:00 in:
I read Henry V but I was actually thinking of the Parson Evans in The Merry Wives of Windsor which was also my favorite comedy that I read in the course. Liked it more than Taming of the Shrew, Midsummer Night's Dream, and Merchant of Venice. The character of Falstaff had a slapstick image to him. Was definitely a play I was shocked hadn't been reproduced on the big screen.
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William of Orange Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:21:46am |
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:22:47am |
re: #454 thedopefishlives
It was a fun trip for us, because we started and ended in Dublin and did a little loop out into the southern countryside during the two weeks we were there. Listening to the changes in tone over those two weeks was awesome.
Nice, I only had a couple days in Dublin since I flew in there and flew out there but it looked like fun. I had a couple of weekends in the Aran Island where they still speak Gaelic a lot and Dingle in County Kerry. Got some awesome photos and memories from the trip.
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Achilles Tang Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:23:13am |
re: #444 Lidane
LOL forever:
Fox Contributor To Bill Nye: You're 'Confusing Our Viewers' On Climate Change (VIDEO)
Then there was another Fox moron who recently asked him if volcanoes on Mars (or was it the moon?) had anything to do with global warming.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:24:23am |
re: #460 HappyWarrior
Nice, I only had a couple days in Dublin since I flew in there and flew out there but it looked like fun. I had a couple of weekends in the Aran Island where they still speak Gaelic a lot and Dingle in County Kerry. Got some awesome photos and memories from the trip.
We were only supposed to be in Dublin for a few days, but it wound up being nearly a week. When we landed, we were so jetlagged that we just crashed in the hotel for nearly 2 days, so we got an extension on our room for another couple of days to properly enjoy the city. It's a very beautiful place, lots of stuff to do and enjoy there. The only thing I regret was not taking the opportunity to go to the Guinness brewery.
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:24:24am |
Oops. Hoosier vet managed to get his own parade canceled:
Parade canceled after wounded Afghanistan vet's arrest
[Link: www.indystar.com...]
Eric Braman, the Lafayette solider arrested over the weekend on the eve of his homecoming parade, said that he was sorry for firing a gun and hurting another man.
"I want to say a formal apology to the community and to the individual that was hurt," Braman said Monday afternoon. "I don't even know who he is. The police wouldn't tell me. I want to apologize to him and to his family.
....
But that all changed in the early hours Saturday when, according to Lafayette police, Braman fired a shot from a handgun into the air and a second shot into the ground during an argument with some men outside a bar.Braman was later arrested, and the parade was canceled.
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subsailor68 Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:25:26am |
re: #458 HappyWarrior
I read Henry V but I was actually thinking of the Parson Evans in The Merry Wives of Windsor which was also my favorite comedy that I read in the course. Liked it more than Taming of the Shrew, Midsummer Night's Dream, and Merchant of Venice. The character of Falstaff had a slapstick image to him. Was definitely a play I was shocked hadn't been reproduced on the big screen.
Ah! Yep, great comedy. It would be a good project for Branagh. Only thing I could find for it is a reference to a TV version:
Made back in 82...pretty impressive cast. Wonder if it's on DVD.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:28:39am |
re: #403 Dark_Falcon
This is jut dishonest. It's 2011, and you have access to free libraries, the internet, hopefully some kind of community college, there is no excuse for retaining this level of ignorance.
Play that "poor me" act all you like, you sound exactly like Bachmann and Klan Paul when they make some big show about how much the ABHORRRR RAAAACISM and SLAAAAAVRY, yet your dumb sterotypes of us are stuck in the 1760s.
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:30:59am |
I'm pretty sure I've seen this exact same conversation in some comment threads:
AI vs. AI. Two chatbots talking to each other
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:32:30am |
re: #464 subsailor68
Ah! Yep, great comedy. It would be a good project for Branagh. Only thing I could find for it is a reference to a TV version:
Made back in 82...pretty impressive cast. Wonder if it's on DVD.
Cool, would love to see that. The fun I had with Shakespeare was using a history major's mindset to approach the plays. Like when we read/saw Richard II and how his cousin Henry IV has him killed, it was hard not to think of of Mary Queen of Scots and Elizabeth I. My professor thought that was interesting since Elizabeth if I heard him right did think the play was subversive.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:33:17am |
re: #463 RogueOne
Oops. Hoosier vet managed to get his own parade canceled:
Parade canceled after wounded Afghanistan vet's arrest
[Link: www.indystar.com...]
He wasn't trying to hurt anyone, he's been through Hell and back, and the person who was hit wasn't seriously injured. I'd say he should be given a plea bargain for the misdemeanor charge and the felony charge should be dropped.
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:36:07am |
re: #468 Dark_Falcon
He wasn't trying to hurt anyone, he's been through Hell and back, and the person who was hit wasn't seriously injured. I'd say he should be given a plea bargain for the misdemeanor charge and the felony charge should be dropped.
I'd like to hear more of the story. He's going to have to come up with a pretty good excuse to get out of firing 2 shots. BTW, in IN if you feel threatened you're allowed to shoot the person but not fire into the air/ground which seems a little weird.
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Lidane Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:38:07am |
re: #470 RogueOne
I'd like to hear more of the story. He's going to have to come up with a pretty good excuse to get out of firing 2 shots. BTW, in IN if you feel threatened you're allowed to shoot the person but not fire into the air/ground which seems a little weird.
I'd imagine because firing in the air can bring a bullet down indiscriminately and hit an unintended target. At least aiming at the person you feel is a threat makes sense.
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:38:56am |
re: #469 Gus 802
That's Academy Award Winner Trent Reznor to you.. /
Never heard that song before... pretty neat (then again, I'm a huge NIN fan).
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iossarian Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:39:34am |
re: #470 RogueOne
I'd like to hear more of the story. He's going to have to come up with a pretty good excuse to get out of firing 2 shots. BTW, in IN if you feel threatened you're allowed to shoot the person but not fire into the air/ground which seems a little weird.
Good Midwest thriftiness. Don't waste bullets!
I think the guy should get some leeway for having been in a shitty situation and lost his leg, but then I'm a liberal so I would say that. /
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:40:47am |
re: #471 Lidane
I'd imagine because firing in the air can bring a bullet down indiscriminately and hit an unintended target. At least aiming at the person you feel is a threat makes sense.
True. There was a pacer player who got jumped outside a club years ago. Since he was attacked he had the right to shoot someone but fired into the air instead. He was charged but at least he didn't kill anyone.
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:41:36am |
re: #473 iossarian
Good Midwest thriftiness. Don't waste bullets!
I think the guy should get some leeway for having been in a shitty situation and lost his leg, but then I'm a liberal so I would say that. /
..and it is Lafayette. Outside of Purdue University you're in redneck country.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:43:00am |
re: #465 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
This is jut dishonest. It's 2011, and you have access to free libraries, the internet, hopefully some kind of community college, there is no excuse for retaining this level of ignorance.
Play that "poor me" act all you like, you sound exactly like Bachmann and Klan Paul when they make some big show about how much the ABHORRR RAAACISM and SLAAAVRY, yet your dumb sterotypes of us are stuck in the 1760s.
It isn't ignorance, since I damn well know better! But when I'm in crisis mode I don't always have full control of my emotions. It's not an excuse, all it can be is an explanation.
I have problems with my emotions, and I do my best to fix them. However, were those problems to lead me to break the law, then those problems would not be a mitigating circumstance in my opinion. I would deserve to be punished for my misdeed. But that has not happened and I keep working to ensure that it does not happen. Meanwhile, I do my damnedest to treat everyone I deal with fairly, regardless of race, sex, religion, or sexual orientation.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:43:29am |
re: #475 RogueOne
..and it is Lafayette. Outside of Purdue University you're in redneck country.
Most of central Indiana is that way. I've driven pretty much every inch of Indiana between Gary, Ft. Wayne, Lafayette, and Muncie. I've seen the trailer parks and the front-yard-as-a-junkyards.
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:48:49am |
re: #469 Gus 802
bela lugosi's dead - trent reznor. peter murphy. tv on the radio
[Video]
That's either scary or funny. I'm not sure which...
/said as a Bauhaus fan ;)
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darthstar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:50:20am |
re: #469 Gus 802
bela lugosi's dead - trent reznor. peter murphy. tv on the radio
[Video]
Loved that song when I was in high school...
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:51:36am |
re: #472 lawhawk
That's Academy Award Winner Trent Reznor to you.. /
Never heard that song before... pretty neat (then again, I'm a huge NIN fan).
It was from Bauhaus, Peter Murphy's first group. It can be argued this was the first major goth song in England back in the day (1979! Gah!)
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Lidane Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:53:46am |
re: #469 Gus 802
bela lugosi's dead - trent reznor. peter murphy. tv on the radio
[Video]
As long as we're showing Trent Reznor videos, here's one of my favorites. I saw this tour. Awesome show:
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:54:38am |
re: #480 wlewisiii
It was from Bauhaus, Peter Murphy's first group. It can be argued this was the first major goth song in England back in the day (1979! Gah!)
Back in '79 I was still in my country-rock phase.
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Kragar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:55:23am |
Fischer: Make Homosexuality 'A Criminal Offense'
Fischer said that since for most of American history “homosexual activity was a felony offense,” there is “no reason why it cannot be a criminal offense once again.”
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:55:48am |
re: #481 Lidane
Only time I saw NIN live was at Woodstock 94... and it was mind blowing how they blew everyone else off the stage, including acts like Metallica and Aerosmith... both of which followed them.
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:55:59am |
re: #482 Gus 802
Back in '79 I was still in my country-rock phase.
That deserves a down-ding but since you've obviously repented for your sin I'll let it pass
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HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:56:56am |
re: #483 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'll ask Bryan the same question I asked a neighborhood friend's brother when he proposed this, how do you expect to enforce this? Oh and Fischer has no room to talk about "big government" ever again.
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iossarian Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:57:21am |
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iossarian Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:00:20am |
re: #486 HappyWarrior
I'll ask Bryan the same question I asked a neighborhood friend's brother when he proposed this, how do you expect to enforce this? Oh and Fischer has no room to talk about "big government" ever again.
Step 1: Close gay bars, force them underground.
Step 2: Raid underground gay bars, arrest patrons.
Step 3: Throw arrested patrons in jail.
Easy. The gay is solved.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:00:30am |
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William of Orange Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:00:58am |
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RogueOne Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:03:28am |
re: #489 iossarian
Step 1: Close gay bars, force them underground.
Step 2: Raid underground gay bars, arrest patrons.
Step 3: Throw arrested patrons in jail.Easy. The gay is solved.
There was a rash of that going on a couple years ago.
Atlanta:
[Link: blogs.villagevoice.com...]
Ft. Worth:
[Link: www.queerty.com...]
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Gus Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:04:16am |
re: #489 iossarian
Step 1: Close gay bars, force them underground.
Step 2: Raid underground gay bars, arrest patrons.
Step 3: Throw arrested patrons in jail.Easy. The gay is solved.
Bring back the "good old days" of pre-Stonewall.
//
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Lidane Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:05:29am |
re: #483 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
For most of American history, women and minorities couldn't vote, blacks were slaves, the concept of 40-hour work weeks and weekends didn't exist, and child labor laws, food safety, and worker safety were a joke.
There's a reason we have social progress -- to correct the mistakes of the past. Fischer and his ilk would turn back the clock if they could.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:07:23am |
re: #494 Lidane
For most of American history, women and minorities couldn't vote, blacks were slaves, the concept of 40-hour work weeks and weekends didn't exist, and child labor laws, food safety, and worker safety were a joke.
There's a reason we have social progress -- to correct the mistakes of the past. Fischer and his ilk would turn back the clock if they could.
Yes, but Leviticus 18:22 remains Leviticus 18:22.
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Lidane Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:10:12am |
re: #496 ralphieboy
Yes, but Leviticus 18:22 remains Leviticus 18:22.
Which assholes like Fischer cherry pick around. That phrase is somehow inviolate, but they don't keep any of the other 600+ laws in Leviticus with the excuse that those laws were written for Jews, not Christians. WTF.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:10:42am |
re: #357 Dark_Falcon
I don't actually believe black e_e
Dontcha get it?
Everything you believe or think you know about us is wrong.
People with your dumb bigot mentality are why we get f'ed up tratment by law enforcement, the legal system disproportionate sentences for the same crimes...all b/c jerks like you weigh the same crime heavier than if a white does the same thing.
Don't claim you don't, because you just said you do.
Can't you see a situation where you might react in fashion that in calmer times you would know wasn't the best reaction?
Why are you making these excuses for hanging onto these stupid, slavery/segregation era beliefs? Stop being lazy and educate yourself out of them, or just keep bing a socially retarded con for the rest of your life...choice is yours.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:11:24am |
re: #493 Gus 802
Bring back the "good old days" of pre-Stonewall.
//
With an added twist: Fischer's the kind who'd like to answer a Stonewall Riot not with NYPD riot squads and non-lethal crowd control measures, but with his own "counter-protest" of armed fundie brownshirts. During which, of course his "Good Christians" would be "attacked" by the "Depraved Homosexuals", with the resulting "actions in self defense" killing a large number of gay people. Byran Fischer's response to a loud gay protest would make Bull Conner happy, and his response to a gay riot would be equal parts Reginald Dyer and Adolf Hitler.
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Four More Tears Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:12:59am |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:13:28am |
re: #498 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Read this post, then I'll respond:
re: #476 Dark_Falcon
It isn't ignorance, since I damn well know better! But when I'm in crisis mode I don't always have full control of my emotions. It's not an excuse, all it can be is an explanation.
I have problems with my emotions, and I do my best to fix them. However, were those problems to lead me to break the law, then those problems would not be a mitigating circumstance in my opinion. I would deserve to be punished for my misdeed. But that has not happened and I keep working to ensure that it does not happen. Meanwhile, I do my damnedest to treat everyone I deal with fairly, regardless of race, sex, religion, or sexual orientation.
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bratwurst Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:13:50am |
The wingnut blogosphere is STILL abuzz about the Obama bus. Some idiots contend (and I am not making this up!) that the giant bus was itself FLOWN between stops on the midwest tour....most of which were less than 50 miles apart. OUTRAGE!
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Lidane Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:14:15am |
re: #500 JasonA
Wasn't it a crime for black people to marry white people too?
Yep.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:15:33am |
re: #496 ralphieboy
Yes, but Leviticus 18:22 remains Leviticus 18:22.
It's easily fixed with a sharpie.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:16:35am |
re: #502 bratwurst
The wingnut blogosphere is STILL abuzz about the Obama bus. Some idiots contend (and I am not making this up!) that the giant bus was itself FLOWN between stops on the midwest tour...most of which were less than 50 miles apart. OUTRAGE!
I find that vanishingly unlikely. The Secret Service does fly its vehicles around, but not normally for short trips like that. It would make no sense. Put it down to people letting their hate overwhelm their sense.
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Kragar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:17:51am |
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Lidane Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:18:55am |
re: #502 bratwurst
The wingnut blogosphere is STILL abuzz about the Obama bus. Some idiots contend (and I am not making this up!) that the giant bus was itself FLOWN between stops on the midwest tour...most of which were less than 50 miles apart. OUTRAGE!
Because driving a bus for 50 miles is hard, don'tcha know.
WTF. How do those idiots get through the day without hurting themselves?
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Interesting Times Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:19:52am |
re: #497 Lidane
Which assholes like Fischer cherry pick around. That phrase is somehow inviolate, but they don't keep any of the other 600+ laws in Leviticus with the excuse that those laws were written for Jews, not Christians. WTF.
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Four More Tears Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:20:15am |
re: #506 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Fox Contributor To Bill Nye: You're 'Confusing Our Viewers' On Climate Change
HAHAHAHAHA!
"Bill, our viewers can't follow this! Stop before their heads explode!"
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:20:50am |
re: #507 Lidane
Because driving a bus for 50 miles is hard, don'tcha know.
WTF. How do those idiots get through the day without hurting themselves?
This is why some shoes have Velcro instead of laces.
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:21:06am |
re: #506 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Fox Contributor To Bill Nye: You're 'Confusing Our Viewers' On Climate Change
Well, to be fair, I bet a lot of Fox viewers would be confused by that.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:21:16am |
re: #506 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Fox Contributor To Bill Nye: You're 'Confusing Our Viewers' On Climate Change
Lidane posted that earlier today:
re: #444 Lidane
LOL forever:
Fox Contributor To Bill Nye: You're 'Confusing Our Viewers' On Climate Change (VIDEO)
But its still a relevant link. Silly me, here I was thinking that "fair and balanced" meant allowing the other side to present its case.
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Four More Tears Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:23:00am |
re: #512 Dark_Falcon
Lidane posted that earlier today:
re: #444 Lidane
But its still a relevant link. Silly me, here I was thinking that "fair and balanced" meant allowing the other side to present its case.
More like "Bill, I'm just a newscaster who has no idea how to process this information and refute your claims. Therefore we must stop."
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:26:16am |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:27:23am |
re: #513 JasonA
More like "Bill, I'm just a newscaster who has no idea how to process this information and refute your claims. Therefore we must stop."
Still, "But I'm just a teleprompter jockey!" isn't very impressive.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:38:17am |
re: #501 Dark_Falcon
Read this post, then I'll respond:
re: #476 Dark_Falcon
Respond or don't; I don't care one way or the other.
You have insulted ME, my family members, and every Black person with your clung-to, feckless, con stupidity and ignorance. Educate yourself out of it, and quit expecting to be treated like an emotional infant.
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BeenHereAwhile Tue, Aug 30, 2011 4:53:38pm |
re: #104 freetoken
[...] Hmmm... that seems unlikely, at least as far as I've read. Most NT scholars would accept that a Nazareth area resident in AD 30 would be quite aware of the extent of the Hellenization of the land of Judea, since Greek was the lingua franca of the elite, the Gospel stories tell of a Jesus and his disciples who were anything but "the elite". Their everyday language would have been Aramaic, and they probably could understand Hebrew as it was read to them.[...]
Yea, more likely Aramaic, but as you were kind enough to point out, Jesus having a little knowledge of Greek (as it was spoken at that time) was not out of the question. As to whether or not, the "historical Jesus" understood Hebrew, it appears you are being a little pedantic.
[...]Furthermore, even if some of them knew a few words of Koine (to get by in cases where they had to interact with gentiles), they would have been illiterate. In fact, the book of Acts clearly states that Peter and John were illiterate![...]
1. Koine, a nice word for Greek [as it was spoken at that time]. So if we subsequently get into a discussion about 13 century BCE Greek, one of us has to be sure and mention Linear B. [g]
2. Peter and John were illiterate!
OK, but most folk of the day were illiterate, so what is your point?
The oral tradition had not yet passed out of common usage.
My point was. Could have the "extent of the Hellenization of the land of Judea" created enough unrest among the Jewish population, that the Romans were forced to conduct two separate military actions to preserve Pax Romana.
[...] People who attempt to recreate the "historical" Jesus - though some think that a folly [...]
Sorry, I was channeling Albert Schwitzer, and use the term historical Jesus to preclude any mythological nonsense surrounding the centerpiece of what was considered to be just another mystery religion for the first two centuries CE.
[...] thus 50 or 60 years after the events, and thus not written by eyewitnesses - what comes out in the wash is that Jesus was most definitely an apocalyptic Jew, not an ascetic as the Essenes were and not a militant as the "Fourth way" were. He was a "
the end is near - REPENT!" (to put the story in English idioms) prophet.[...]
Whatever Jesus's politics or philosophy, it apparently got him crucified.
Speaking of Jesus's philosophy, was he a [messianic] Nazarene, or did he really come from the city of Nazareth? The latter would have meant that his mother Mary would have had to endure a 20 KM or so walk or donkey ride while in her 9th month of pregnancy.
[...] Now, since the first century the Christian religion has been highly Hellenized and even Paganized and today can seem somewhat different from it's apocalyptic Jewish origins, but if one scrapes away the centuries of add-ons one gets to the Jewish roots.[...]
Thus my use of "historical Jesus."
[...] However, Bachmann, Perry, and the rest really don't care about all of that. They don't want to hear how diverse "Christianity" was a century after Jesus, no more than they want to hear about how Genesis and Moses were just stories made up by religious sects in the first millenium BC Levant. The fundamentalists in this country today are on a tear - a reactionary fugue to a world that doesn't make sense to them.[...]
I have no problem with those who believe in a literal interpretation of the bible, as long as their beliefs are based upon a literal translation of the bible.
Thanks for your response.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Aug 30, 2011 9:44:56pm |
re: #40 SanFranciscoZionist
Someone explain to me what 'a Jehovah God' is, please? That's not an adjective, it's a name.
A rather weird attempt to Latinize a name we don't attempt to pronounce in my tradition, mind you, but a name. Not an adjective.
Yeah, that one stuck out at me, too.
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