Ann Coulter: Creationist

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Ann Coulter has always been willing to take the crazy rhetoric one step farther, and now she’s coming out as the champion of right wing American creationism: LIBERALS’ VIEW OF DARWIN UNABLE TO EVOLVE!!!

Intelligent design scientists look at the evidence and develop their theories; Darwinists start with a theory and then rearrange the evidence.

These aren’t scientists. They are religious fanatics for whom evolution must be true so that they can explain to themselves why they are here, without God. (It’s an accident!)

Any evidence contradicting the primitive religion of Darwinism — including, for example, the entire fossil record — they explain away with non-scientific excuses like “the dog ate our fossils.”

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316 comments
1 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:12:15pm

Religion of Darwinism? Good grief.

2 Interesting Times  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:13:32pm
These aren’t scientists. They are religious fanatics

The IMAX corporation would offer hefty consulting fees for someone with Coulter's expertise in projection.

3 dr. luba  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:14:32pm

P-Zed has been writing about this for several days now.

4 albusteve  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:15:28pm

what's the routine again?...I'm supposed to be outraged?

5 celticdragon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:15:44pm

I guess she missed the part where paleontologists updated and corrected evolutionary theory, (like Stephen Gould and contingency).

For Coulter, it is all about darwin and her evoluition as religion claptrap.

Talk about projection.

6 jaunte  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:15:47pm
"We don't have fossils for any intermediate creatures in the process of evolving into something better."

Ann Coulter is a transitional organism.

7 celticdragon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:16:34pm

re: #6 jaunte

Ann Coulter is a transitional organism.


Maybe she needs a transitional orgasm?

8 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:16:35pm

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

Religion of Darwinism? Good grief.

Oh, brother! The Theory of Evolution is a general scientific theory. It has seen revisions to how the process it describes works, but those changes have never contradicted its main points. But in Coulter's hostile reading, evolution is a way for liberals to dismiss God and any evidence that contradicts an idea of how evolution occurs "proves" the entire theory wrong.

Ann Coulter: Shrill Bullshit Artist.

9 mikec6666  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:16:50pm

I must admit, the dog ate our fossils is a funny line. Th substance of her thesis is, of course, complete BS, but then what did you expect, facts?

10 FreedomMoon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:16:50pm

I guess now was a good time to come out of the Creationist closet, she will surely be received with open arms. Not by anyone with a functioning brain of course.

11 elizajane  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:17:28pm

Bing! Wins prize for False Equivalency of the Month.

12 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:17:42pm

Look, people, she has a point. Darwin was completely wrong when he postulated a bear being the ancestor of whales, so the theory, and it is just a theory, not a fact, of evolution is obviously wrong. Darwin didn't even know anything about cells, or genes, of genetics, so how could he possibly be right?

Oh, and all those transitional fossils the evolutionists lie to us about are not transitional, they are fully formed. Where are the crocoducks?

13 CuriousLurker  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:17:51pm

re: #4 albusteve

what's the routine again?...I'm supposed to be outraged?

Nah, your routine is to be bored with it all (when you're not being cynically dismissive, that is).

14 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:17:58pm

re: #7 celticdragon

Maybe she needs a transitional orgasm?

Well, I ain't going near where I'd have to go to give her one of those. You can do it if you want, but don't blame me if you lose a hand.

//

15 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:18:41pm

Msgr. Ronald Knox:

What a lot of dust was raised last century over the evolution business! People went about with long faces cursing Darwin and the other people for tracing man’s ancestry, with a certain amount of genealogical license, from some monkey or monkeys unknown. They minded that terribly; not so much, I think, because they were Christians as because in their heart of hearts they were good old solid Victorians, who thought that the human species, as represented by Lord Macaulay, was the highest kind of existence that could possibly be conceived; it was a sort of blasphemy to connect it in any way with the zoo. But if they’d looked in the Bible, instead of being so anxious to defend the accuracy of the Bible, they’d have found something much worse than that. The Bible says the Lord God formed man out of the slime of the earth. That’s what we are, Lord Macaulay and all the rest of us, slime. We belong, on the bodily side of us, to the world of matter; are taken out of that common stock-pot from which all the rest of the visible creation comes. We are animals, we are organisms, we are matter — slime of the earth.

Add to that, of course, the religious concept that man also has the dignity of having been created in the image of God, and immortality through salvation of the soul.

I never liked her, but I thought Ann was smarter than this.

16 BHRobin  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:18:52pm

Ann has been driven to this position out of desperation. If people can evolve, eventually she'll run out of people who think she knows what she's talking about. OTOH, if they've been created stupid enough to believe her, her future is assured - at the small cost of humankind.

17 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:18:57pm

re: #4 albusteve

what's the routine again?...I'm supposed to be outraged?

No Steve, just lay your heavy head on the pillows, think of penguins and ice cream and go to sleep.

18 CuriousLurker  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:19:03pm

Do y'all think Ann Coulter would like my new avatar? Is it suitably scary? *twirls around*

19 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:19:34pm

re: #12 b_sharp

Look, people, she has a point. Darwin was completely wrong when he postulated a bear being the ancestor of whales, so the theory, and it is just a theory, not a fact, of evolution is obviously wrong. Darwin didn't even know anything about cells, or genes, of genetics, so how could he possibly be right?

Oh, and all those transitional fossils the evolutionists lie to us about are not transitional, they are fully formed. Where are the crocoducks?

Well, we do have turduckens!

20 SteelGHAZI  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:19:41pm

Stupidity can not be concealed.

21 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:19:41pm

Ann Coulter Invade Countries and Convert to Darwinism

22 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:19:56pm

re: #18 CuriousLurker

Do y'all think Ann Coulter would like my new avatar? Is it suitably scary? *twirls around*

It's excellent.

23 [deleted]  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:20:03pm
24 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:20:08pm

re: #18 CuriousLurker

Do y'all think Ann Coulter would like my new avatar? Is it suitably scary? *twirls around*

I want to see your avatar be your cat named Sharia.
Do you have one yet?

25 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:20:09pm

To paraphrase the bank robber Willie Sutton, GOP electoral stupidity and ignorance is where the money's at nowadays.

Coulter knows her audience better than they know themselves...

26 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:20:15pm

re: #10 tacuba14

I guess now was a good time to come out of the Creationist closet, she will surely be received with open arms. Not by anyone with a functioning brain of course.

She came out a few years ago in her last book.

27 celticdragon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:21:02pm

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

Well, I ain't going near where I'd have to go to give her one of those. You can do it if you want, but don't blame me if you lose a hand.

//

I'm not that brave. ;)

28 albusteve  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:21:02pm

re: #17 b_sharp

No Steve, just lay your heavy head on the pillows, think of penguins and ice cream and go to sleep.

post something original about Coulter...I dare you

29 CuriousLurker  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:21:51pm

re: #24 reine.de.tout

I want to see your avatar be your cat named Sharia.
Do you have one yet?

Not yet! LOL

30 Lidane  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:22:06pm

re: #15 reine.de.tout

I never liked her, but I thought Ann was smarter than this.

Please. She's made a career out of appealing to the most ignorant, brain-dead parts of the far right. Why would she be smarter than this?

The money on the right goes to the anti-science, anti-reason, anti-intellectual wingnuts who hate Muslims, hate minorities, hate liberals, want to rewrite American history, deny AGW, deny evolution, and will excuse every type of corporate malfeasance possible. Ann's just preaching to the paying choir.

31 CuriousLurker  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:23:19pm

re: #22 Rightwingconspirator

It's excellent.

That's actually me, but photoshopped to death. Took off at least 25 years, so you'd never recognize me if you saw me on the street, heh.

32 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:23:22pm

re: #15 reine.de.tout

Msgr. Ronald Knox:

Add to that, of course, the religious concept that man also has the dignity of having been created in the image of God, and immortality through salvation of the soul.

I never liked her, but I thought Ann was smarter than this.

I have always been a member of the monkey family, specifically of the Chimpanzee branch.

I am practising to become Pan paniscus.

33 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:24:11pm

re: #18 CuriousLurker

Do y'all think Ann Coulter would like my new avatar? Is it suitably scary? *twirls around*

I like it!

34 celticdragon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:24:11pm

By the by, I will be doing a major term paper on the ongoing attacks on science education in public schools for my Public schools: Power and Politics class.

I will be citing material from LGF.

35 Hal_10000  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:24:44pm

Honestly? With Mann Coulter, I think it's all just an act. Almost everything she says -- about McCarthy, about science, about whatever - is the opposite of true, and usually obviously so. But it's so laughably false I think she actually doesn't believe anything at all. She's just pandering, biting the heads off chickens at the Right Wing state fair.

36 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:25:06pm

re: #19 reine.de.tout

Well, we do have turduckens!

I don't think I want to eat anything made of turds.

Even the name says it's ucky.

37 celticdragon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:26:48pm

re: #36 b_sharp

I don't think I want to eat anything made of turds.

Even the name says it's ucky.

I like meat and I love poultry, but a chicken stuffed inside a duck stuffed inside a turkey is a bit much...

38 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:27:03pm

re: #31 CuriousLurker

That's actually me, but photoshopped to death. Took off at least 25 years, so you'd never recognize me if you saw me on the street, heh.

Took off 25 years? I didn't think you were THAT old...

*ducks*

;-P

39 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:27:17pm

re: #32 b_sharp

I have always been a member of the monkey family, specifically of the Chimpanzee branch.

I am practising to become Pan paniscus.

I am a member of whichever branch of the monkey family is cutest.

40 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:27:19pm

re: #28 albusteve

post something original about Coulter...I dare you

Coulter has a sexy little toe.

Now, to what purpose does what I have to say about the money grubbing bit%$ require originality?

41 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:27:24pm

Wishful thinking on my part: here's to hoping that one day Coulter pulls off the right-wing crazy mask and admits that her bat guano crazy commentary was just a ruse to,
a) make $$$, and b) make conservatives look bad.

42 CuriousLurker  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:27:56pm

re: #38 talon_262

Took off 25 years? I didn't think you were THAT old...

*ducks*

;-P

Oh yeah, I'm almost at the half century mark.

43 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:28:57pm

re: #37 celticdragon

I like meat and I love poultry, but a chicken stuffed inside a duck stuffed inside a turkey is a bit much...

Oh, yeah, way too much.
I've never had it myself, and don't think I ever would.
That's what I generally think of as MAN FOOD. Meat, meat and more meat. Ugh. Not to my taste.

44 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:30:19pm

re: #36 b_sharp

I don't think I want to eat anything made of turds.

Even the name says it's ucky.

TURkey
DUCK
chickEN

But yeah, you're right -

45 Amory Blaine  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:30:25pm

I wonder when she'll get her own show.

46 jaunte  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:30:39pm

Despite recent political history,

Evolution is not just for Democrats.

47 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:30:48pm

re: #37 celticdragon

I like meat and I love poultry, but a chicken stuffed inside a duck stuffed inside a turkey is a bit much...

I've never had turducken, but you know what could possibly make it even more awesome? Deep frying it...

///

48 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:30:52pm

re: #42 CuriousLurker

Oh yeah, I'm almost at the half century mark.

No way.
You sound young.

49 CuriousLurker  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:31:49pm

re: #48 b_sharp

No way.
You sound young.

Young at heart, long in the tooth.

50 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:32:01pm

re: #44 reine.de.tout

TURkey
DUCK
chickEN

But yeah, you're right -

Sorry, my mistake.
Time to grab another turdle.

51 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:32:27pm

re: #50 b_sharp

Sorry, my mistake.
Time to grab another turdle.

Turdle soup?

52 jaunte  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:32:36pm

Turduckens, all the way down.

53 Bear  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:34:14pm

re: #44 reine.de.tout

OT But what is the rain situation down your way? And was your hubby on an oil rig?

54 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:34:51pm
55 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:35:15pm

re: #45 Amory Blaine

I wonder when she'll get her own show.

If it ever happens, I'll be the first to never watch it. I've found her unwatchable for years. She's bitterly partisan, and never willing to even consider the other side's point of view, even to dismiss it. She reads things into the motives of others without explanation, and then claims that her opponents are the ones being dishonest.

56 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:36:26pm

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

If it ever happens, I'll be the first to never watch it. I've found her unwatchable for years. She's bitterly partisan, and never willing to even consider the other side's point of view, even to dismiss it. She reads things into the motives of others without explanation, and then claims that her opponents are the ones being dishonest.

And shrill...don't forget shrill.

57 Interesting Times  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:37:15pm

re: #37 celticdragon

I like meat and I love poultry, but a chicken stuffed inside a duck stuffed inside a turkey is a bit much...

Someone examined this concept, and thought, why not apply it to dinner? :)

58 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:37:57pm

re: #32 b_sharp

I have always been a member of the monkey family, specifically of the Chimpanzee branch.

I am practising to become Pan paniscus.

Would it have been better to say "I am practising to become a Bonobo"?

Everybody here knows what Bonobos are famous for, right?

59 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:38:29pm

re: #56 talon_262

And shrill...don't forget shrill.

I mentioned that up at #8. I'm trying to vary my criticisms up.

60 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:38:48pm

re: #37 celticdragon

I like meat and I love poultry, but a chicken stuffed inside a duck stuffed inside a turkey is a bit much...

Yah, it's missing the crab legs.

61 jaunte  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:38:52pm

re: #55 Dark_Falcon


Her main complaint with scientists (liberals) seems to be that they don't bother to come on television to 'debate' her.

Roughly one-third of my 2006 No. 1 New York Times best-seller, "Godless: The Church of Liberalism," is an attack on liberals' creation myth, Darwinian evolution. I presented the arguments of all the luminaries in the field, from the retarded Richard Dawkins to the brilliant Francis Crick, and disputed them.

But apparently liberals didn't want to argue back.
[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

62 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:39:21pm

re: #37 celticdragon

I like meat and I love poultry, but a chicken stuffed inside a duck stuffed inside a turkey is a bit much...

How about just yanking Ann Coulter's head out of her ass?

63 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:40:10pm

re: #53 Bear

OT But what is the rain situation down your way? And was your hubby on an oil rig?

It's not as bad as they predicted it would be, for my location (Baton Rouge).
We've had some rain today, and a few moments of sunlight, and some light winds. The wind and rain have picked up a bit in the last hour, but nothing bad. I still have my electricity, which is one clue that it's not nearly as bad as it could be.

Hubby is still on the rig - by the time they got it shut down, the center of circulation for this thing was 40 miles from where he was, and they were unable to do any more flights (visibility too low) - so he's stuck, with some others, probably bored to tears because they can't work, and there's not much to do out there.

64 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:41:06pm

re: #58 b_sharp

Would it have been better to say "I am practising to become a Bonobo"?

Everybody here knows what Bonobos are famous for, right?

I don't.
Probably something icky?

65 albusteve  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:41:28pm

re: #40 b_sharp

Coulter has a sexy little toe.

Now, to what purpose does what I have to say about the money grubbing bit%$ require originality?

right, she's edible, that's been established...you don't have to be original, that's obvious...sooo repeat after me

66 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:41:48pm

re: #51 reine.de.tout

Turdle soup?

Turdles. Yum.

67 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:41:53pm

re: #61 jaunte

Her main complaint with scientists (liberals) seems to be that they don't bother to come on television to 'debate' her.

Who would want to try? She just uses her debating opponent as a prop to make her attacks. Proper debates mean acknowledging what the other person is trying to say, even if you dismiss it; Ann Coulter just puts words into people's mouths.

68 CuriousLurker  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:42:02pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

How about just yanking Ann Coulter's head out of her ass?

Wow, you REALLY dislike her, huh? I don't usually see that strong a reaction from you, DF. I'm impressed, heh.

69 albusteve  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:42:23pm

re: #51 reine.de.tout

Turdle soup?

excellent grub...so is conch soup

70 Bear  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:42:54pm

re: #63 reine.de.tout

Good. Keep safe.

71 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:43:02pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

How about just yanking Ann Coulter's head out of her ass?

The pop would damage ear drums.

72 albusteve  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:43:54pm

re: #69 albusteve

excellent grub...so is conch soup

ha!...turdle
I misread that one, cher

73 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:44:21pm

re: #64 reine.de.tout

I don't.
Probably something icky?

They resolve disputes by having sex. They have sex at the drop of a hat.

74 albusteve  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:45:56pm

re: #73 b_sharp

They resolve disputes by having sex. They have sex at the drop of a hat.

could lead to World Piece...jus sayin

75 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:46:03pm

re: #73 b_sharp

They resolve disputes by having sex. They have sex at the drop of a hat.

Yeah, I just looked 'em up:

bonobos may often resolve conflicts with sexual contact

But here's something else:

Bonobos are perceived to be matriarchal: females tend to collectively dominate males by forming alliances; females use their sexuality to control males; a male's rank in the social hierarchy is determined by his mother's rank

Smart animals.

76 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:46:11pm

re: #15 reine.de.tout

Msgr. Ronald Knox:

Add to that, of course, the religious concept that man also has the dignity of having been created in the image of God, and immortality through salvation of the soul.

I never liked her, but I thought Ann was smarter than this.

I think she's crazy like a fox. She knows perfectly well what the science is, and she is no more a creationist than I am. She's pandering to the audience.

77 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:46:43pm

re: #61 jaunte

Her main complaint with scientists (liberals) seems to be that they don't bother to come on television to 'debate' her.


Why [Richard Dawkins] Won't Debate Creationists

For good or ill, the late Stephen Jay Gould had a huge influence on American scientific culture, and on balance the good came out on top. His powerful voice will echo on for a long time. Although he and I disagreed about much, we shared much too, including a spellbound delight in the wonders of the natural world, and a passionate conviction that such wonders deserve nothing less than a purely natural explanation.

Another thing about which we agreed was our refusal to engage in public debates with creationists. Steve had even more reason than me to be irritated by them. They distorted the theory of punctuated equilibrium so that it appeared to support their preposterous (but astonishingly common) belief that there are no intermediates in the fossil record. Gould's reply deserves to be widely known:

Since we proposed punctuated equilibria to explain trends, it is infuriating to be quoted again and again by creationists -- whether through design or stupidity, I do not know -- as admitting that the fossil record includes no transitional forms. Transitional forms are generally lacking at the species level, but they are abundant between larger groups.

Some time in the 1980s when I was on a visit to the United States, a television station wanted to stage a debate between me and a prominent creationist called, I think, Duane P Gish. I telephoned Stephen Gould for advice. He was friendly and decisive: "Don't do it." The point is not, he said, whether or not you would 'win' the debate. Winning is not what the creationists realistically aspire to. For them, it is sufficient that the debate happens at all. They need the publicity. We don't. To the gullible public which is their natural constituency, it is enough that their man is seen sharing a platform with a real scientist. "There must be something in creationism, or Dr So-and-So would not have agreed to debate it on equal terms." Inevitably, when you turn down the invitation you will be accused of cowardice, or of inability to defend your own beliefs. But that is better than supplying the creationists with what they crave: the oxygen of respectability in the world of real science.

78 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:47:08pm

re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist

I think she's crazy like a fox. She knows perfectly well what the science is, and she is no more a creationist than I am. She's pandering to the audience.

I agree.
She has no ethical or moral compass.

79 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:47:22pm

re: #75 reine.de.tout

How goes the weather?

80 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:47:44pm

re: #75 reine.de.tout

Yeah, I just looked 'em up:

But here's something else:

Smart animals.

Now you know why I want to be one when I grow up.

81 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:47:48pm

re: #72 albusteve

ha!...turdle
I misread that one, cher

{{steve}}

82 albusteve  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:48:07pm

re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist

I think she's crazy like a fox. She knows perfectly well what the science is, and she is no more a creationist than I am. She's pandering to the audience.

yup...a very well paid phony contrarian

83 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:48:17pm

re: #73 b_sharp

They resolve disputes by having sex. They have sex at the drop of a hat.

Even they figured out makeup sex can be awesome...

;-P

84 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:48:34pm

re: #79 Varek Raith

How goes the weather?

Wet, rainy, windy.
But not so awful that I've lost power.
Thank goodness.

85 CuriousLurker  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:49:05pm

Arrrgh, phone. BBL

86 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:49:12pm

re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist

I think she's crazy like a fox. She knows perfectly well what the science is, and she is no more a creationist than I am. She's pandering to the audience.

She's buddies with Bill Dembski, so she may not be creationist, but she's definitely anti-evolution.

87 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:50:24pm

re: #84 reine.de.tout

Wet, rainy, windy.
But not so awful that I've lost power.
Thank goodness.

Just saw a report, we in Baton Rouge have had about 6" of rain today, they say.

88 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:50:44pm

re: #85 CuriousLurker

Arrrgh, phone. BBL

Heh, nice avatar.
:)

89 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:51:38pm

re: #87 reine.de.tout

Just saw a report, we in Baton Rouge have had about 6" of rain today, they say.

Well, you all could use the rain.
Any bad flooding?

90 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:52:19pm

re: #89 Varek Raith

Well, you all could use the rain.
Any bad flooding?

No, some minor flooding in a few low areas that are prone to flooding. All else is A-OK.

91 albusteve  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:53:51pm

re: #90 reine.de.tout

No, some minor flooding in a few low areas that are prone to flooding. All else is A-OK.

yaaayyy!...
gumbo for everyone!

92 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:54:28pm

re: #86 b_sharp

She's buddies with Bill Dembski, so she may not be creationist, but she's definitely anti-evolution.

She's anti-science, because her audience likes being told that the evil liberal elitists are lying to them. She's a total fake.

93 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:56:02pm

re: #77 negativ


Why [Richard Dawkins] Won't Debate Creationists

Some time in the 1980s when I was on a visit to the United States, a television station wanted to stage a debate between me and a prominent creationist called, I think, Duane P Gish. I telephoned Stephen Gould for advice. He was friendly and decisive: "Don't do it." The point is not, he said, whether or not you would 'win' the debate. Winning is not what the creationists realistically aspire to. For them, it is sufficient that the debate happens at all. They need the publicity. We don't. To the gullible public which is their natural constituency, it is enough that their man is seen sharing a platform with a real scientist. "There must be something in creationism, or Dr So-and-So would not have agreed to debate it on equal terms." Inevitably, when you turn down the invitation you will be accused of cowardice, or of inability to defend your own beliefs. But that is better than supplying the creationists with what they crave: the oxygen of respectability in the world of real science.

It's the same principal as not feeding trolls here on LGF. Debating a loon given them attention it's best they not have.

94 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:56:08pm

re: #74 albusteve

could lead to World Piece...jus sayin

A few years ago, we had a headline in our local newspaper that stated:
"Pope Seeks Piece".

Poor guy.

95 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:57:46pm

re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist

She's anti-science, because her audience likes being told that the evil liberal elitists are lying to them. She's a total fake.

I'll bet she's not really blonde.

96 albusteve  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:58:57pm

re: #94 b_sharp

A few years ago, we had a headline in our local newspaper that stated:
"Pope Seeks Piece".

Poor guy.

I'll bet he does...be cool to sneak a peek into his hard drive

97 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 7:59:39pm

re: #95 b_sharp

I'll bet she's not really blonde.

Image: V_Diana.jpg

98 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:00:17pm

re: #96 albusteve

I'll bet he does...be cool to sneak a peek into his hard drive

You thinkin' we might find some questionable pictures of youngsters?

99 albusteve  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:03:10pm

re: #98 b_sharp

You thinkin' we might find some questionable pictures of youngsters?

I'm no Pope head...he's taught me not to expect good things from the Vat, his realm

100 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:04:25pm

re: #97 negativ

Image: V_Diana.jpg

I prefer Morena Baccarin.

101 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:07:26pm

re: #98 b_sharp

You thinkin' we might find some questionable pictures of youngsters?

More like Rule 34 enforced on Mother Angelica.

I, for one, would prefer to remain forever ignorant of the contents of such a hard drive.

102 Achilles Tang  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:07:51pm

I trust everyone knows that Coulter has come out as a creationist for a long time. Since at least her first book.

She's a religious panderer, just like all prominent Republicans.

103 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:10:14pm

re: #100 b_sharp

I prefer Morena Baccarin.

As does everyone, but I was trying to keep a degree of separation between her and Prostetnic Vogon Ann Coulter.

104 Achilles Tang  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:10:26pm

re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist

I think she's crazy like a fox. She knows perfectly well what the science is, and she is no more a creationist than I am. She's pandering to the audience.

Beat me to the panderer, but I am not so sure that she knows what the science is; she has just decided it doesn't serve her, so no point in understanding.

105 jvic  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:12:23pm

re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist

She's anti-science, because her audience likes being told that the evil liberal elitists are lying to them. She's a total fake.

SFZ, this conservative knows that evil liberal elitists are not lying to me...about evolution.

ducks, tries to burrow

106 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:13:12pm

re: #105 jvic

SFZ, this conservative knows that evil liberal elitists are not lying to me...about evolution.

ducks, tries to burrow

I'm down here in my bunker, if you'd care to join me.

107 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:13:56pm

re: #105 jvic

SFZ, this conservative knows that evil liberal elitists are not lying to me...about evolution.

ducks, tries to burrow

We are lying to you about being elitists.

108 jvic  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:14:23pm

re: #106 Dark_Falcon

I'm down here in my bunker, if you'd care to join me.

Got turducken?

109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20:01pm

Gosh. I haven't heard (or thought of) her name in two years! How do you spell it again?

110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20:48pm

re: #108 jvic

Ewww.

111 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:21:15pm

re: #108 jvic

Got turducken?

No, just some soda, and essentials. Money's tight, and rich food like that is off the menu.

112 blueraven  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:22:46pm

re: #111 Dark_Falcon

No, just some soda, and essentials. Money's tight, and rich food like that is off the menu.

Soda is not essential. Go to your room!

113 Achilles Tang  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:26:58pm

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gosh. I haven't heard (or thought of) her name in two years! How do you spell it again?

Ingram

114 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:32:10pm

My first deleted comment at LGF was quoting her.

Stopped me in my tracks; and I started thinking about what I had just said.

Thanks again, Charles.

115 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:33:28pm

re: #107 b_sharp

We are lying to you about being elitists.

We totally drink Budweiser when no one is watching us.

116 jvic  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:33:53pm

Can anyone guesstimate how long it will take for speciation to be demonstrated in the laboratory? A decade or few? By the end of the century? (Could it happen via simulation on a megasuperdupercomputer before it happens in the lab?)

Barring a civilizational extinction event, such experiments will be done. Hopefully they will be done prudently under secure conditions. If they're not done in North America or Europe, they'll be done elsewhere, most likely in Asia. They will be opposed by devotees of Gaia and Jesus.

117 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:39:18pm

re: #116 jvic

Can anyone guesstimate how long it will take for speciation to be demonstrated in the laboratory? A decade or few? By the end of the century? (Could it happen via simulation on a megasuperdupercomputer before it happens in the lab?)

Barring a civilizational extinction event, such experiments will be done. Hopefully they will be done prudently under secure conditions. If they're not done in North America or Europe, they'll be done elsewhere, most likely in Asia. They will be opposed by devotees of Gaia and Jesus.

What do you mean by speciation?

During work on Drosophila, a 'macro' mutation was triggered that caused a fly with 4 wings instead of two. Flies don't have 4 wings so it could only be considered a new species, if not genus.

118 freetoken  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:39:25pm

Erick Son of Erick has a new article out tonight trying to soft peddle creationism and blame the leftist media for being out of touch with

... the religion shared by a majority of Americans.

In that article he claims:

The final coup de grace was Kathleen Parker in the Washington Post, who wrote that Rick Perry's belief in "creationism" meant by default he believed God created the world 6,500 years ago -- a small minority opinion even among creationists.

"Small minority" my ass.

119 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:42:06pm

re: #118 freetoken

Erick Son of Erick has a new article out tonight trying to soft peddle creationism and blame the leftist media for being out of touch with

In that article he claims:

"Small minority" my ass.

He's using a broad definition of creationist to include old Earth creationists even though common use of the term specifies young Earth beliefs.

120 Achilles Tang  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:42:46pm

re: #116 jvic

Can anyone guesstimate how long it will take for speciation to be demonstrated in the laboratory? A decade or few? By the end of the century? (Could it happen via simulation on a megasuperdupercomputer before it happens in the lab?)

In what? A mammal or a bacteria? Creationists like to mention bacteria, but bacteria don't have sex, and are probably chimera with a little virus help.

Mules are perhaps a partial existing example. All we need to do is figure out how to make them fertile, and maybe they would not breed with horses or donkeys.

Perhaps we could insert genes in a cat (2) that would make its offspring have an autoimmune reaction to sperm from normal cats. That would qualify as a species; except the creationists would also want the fur to be purple.

121 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:47:10pm

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

We totally drink Budweiser when no one is watching us.

Heh!
You so do not,but I'm not telling any more!
*waves*

122 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:47:36pm

re: #120 Naso Tang

In what? A mammal or a bacteria? Creationists like to mention bacteria, but bacteria don't have sex, and are probably chimera with a little virus help.

Mules are perhaps a partial existing example. All we need to do is figure out how to make them fertile, and maybe they would not breed with horses or donkeys.

Perhaps we could insert genes in a cat (2) that would make its offspring have an autoimmune reaction to sperm from normal cats. That would qualify as a species; except the creationists would also want the fur to be purple.

It would qualify as a species, but its creators would still be its staff. Cat Overlords are an imperious lot, even with purple fur. They have no time for uppity humans, still less for crocoducks.

123 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:48:07pm

re: #120 Naso Tang

In what? A mammal or a bacteria? Creationists like to mention bacteria, but bacteria don't have sex, and are probably chimera with a little virus help.

Mules are perhaps a partial existing example. All we need to do is figure out how to make them fertile, and maybe they would not breed with horses or donkeys.

Perhaps we could insert genes in a cat (2) that would make its offspring have an autoimmune reaction to sperm from normal cats. That would qualify as a species; except the creationists would also want the fur to be purple.

It sounds like you are using a definition for species formed by the physical inability to interbreed. That isn't commonly used. Speciation does incude situations represented by ring species where interbreeding is possible physically but will not happen because of some other reason.

Read John's work.

124 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:48:50pm

re: #122 Dark_Falcon

They do, have PLENTY of time for Turduckens!
Nom nom nom.

125 Achilles Tang  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:51:53pm

re: #119 b_sharp

He's using a broad definition of creationist to include old Earth creationists even though common use of the term specifies young Earth beliefs.

Making that distinction is pointless, as far as rejection of evolution goes. The young earth creationists are just the ones who actually think about it long enough to find that they also need to reject most science, like geology and astronomy, never mind physics.

"Old Earth" creationists are just the ones who don't bother even to go that far, although a few stand on their heads long enough to come up with stuff like I.D.

126 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:52:39pm

re: #124 Floral Giraffe

They do, have PLENTY of time for Turduckens!
Nom nom nom.

Hi, Floral. How are you?

127 jvic  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:54:15pm

re: #117 b_sharp

During work on Drosophila, a 'macro' mutation was triggered that caused a fly with 4 wings instead of two. Flies don't have 4 wings so it could only be considered a new species, if not genus.

I didn't know that, which is not surprising given that I haven't tried to keep up with all the biology that's been discovered since I graduated. IMHO the result deserves wider dissemination than it's receiving.

What do you mean by speciation?

I had in mind a political definition rather than a scientific one: changes dramatic enough to refute the creationist claim that evolution only accounts for minor changes. For example--I repeat my ignorance of the field--, change a little wingless critter that lives on land into one that lives in water and another one that flies.

(Btw, this whole brouhaha seems bizarre to me; I have trouble believing how serious creationists are about it. When I was a boy I would look for fossils in the crushed limestone in parking lots. It seemed perfectly reasonable that I was part of that chain of development.)

128 Achilles Tang  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:56:04pm

re: #123 b_sharp

It sounds like you are using a definition for species formed by the physical inability to interbreed. That isn't commonly used. Speciation does incude situations represented by ring species where interbreeding is possible physically but will not happen because of some other reason.

Read John's work.

How about creating one cat species that is deathly allergic to Purina and another to Friskies? That would be what you could call an ecological niche evolution./

129 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:58:04pm

re: #127 jvic

I didn't know that, which is not surprising given that I haven't tried to keep up with all the biology that's been discovered since I graduated. IMHO the result deserves wider dissemination than it's receiving.

I had in mind a political definition rather than a scientific one: changes dramatic enough to refute the creationist claim that evolution only accounts for minor changes. For example--I repeat my ignorance of the field--, change a little wingless critter that lives on land into one that lives in water and another one that flies.

(Btw, this whole brouhaha seems bizarre to me; I have trouble believing how serious creationists are about it. When I was a boy I would look for fossils in the crushed limestone in parking lots. It seemed perfectly reasonable that I was part of that chain of development.)

The problem with giving any examples to creationists is their inability to understand how selection works and what can be expected in speciation. What they expect is saltation, something that we will never be able to produce.

130 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:00:06pm

re: #128 Naso Tang

How about creating one cat species that is deathly allergic to Purina and another to Friskies? That would be what you could call an ecological niche evolution./

SMACK!

DO NOT MOCK THE CAT OVERLORDS!!

/

131 austin_blue  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:00:18pm

Stupid is as stupid does, unless you are making scads of money off of the stupid.

Hence, Ann Coulter. She has become rich because of Teh Stupid.

If it wasn't so obscene, it would be admirable, in a capitalist sort of way.

132 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:02:50pm

re: #131 austin_blue

Stupid is as stupid does, unless you are making scads of money off of the stupid.

Hence, Ann Coulter. She has become rich because of Teh Stupid.

If it wasn't so obscene, it would be admirable, in a capitalist sort of way.

Quite Concur.

133 Achilles Tang  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:05:37pm

re: #129 b_sharp

The problem with giving any examples to creationists is their inability to understand how selection works and what can be expected in speciation. What they expect is saltation, something that we will never be able to produce.

You mean what is otherwise called punctuated equilibria?

We could possibly produce it, but without defining the criteria in advance it will never satisfy a creationist, and the goalpost would always move even if defined.

Flies with 4 wings are not good enough. What would be?

134 Achilles Tang  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:07:55pm

re: #131 austin_blue

Stupid is as stupid does, unless you are making scads of money off of the stupid.

Hence, Ann Coulter. She has become rich because of Teh Stupid.

If it wasn't so obscene, it would be admirable, in a capitalist sort of way.

The problem is that she is, along with the likes of Fox and the GOP, in a strong position to "educate" the stupid and make sure they stay that way.

135 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:12:28pm

re: #133 Naso Tang

You mean what is otherwise called punctuated equilibria?

We could possibly produce it, but without defining the criteria in advance it will never satisfy a creationist, and the goalpost would always move even if defined.

Flies with 4 wings are not good enough. What would be?

No. Saltation would be a large single event mutation that formed a new species. It doesn't happen. Punc Eq is rapid change over a relatively short period followed/preceded by a drastic slowdown.

Nothing will convince the creationists. I was at talk.origins when two people were convinced to accept evolution, but both of them came to t.o. with doubts about creationism already. Nothing that any of the scientists there said was enough to change the minds of any of the serious creationists.

136 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:13:07pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Blessedly happy, and you?

137 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:13:20pm

re: #133 Naso Tang

You mean what is otherwise called punctuated equilibria?

We could possibly produce it, but without defining the criteria in advance it will never satisfy a creationist, and the goalpost would always move even if defined.

Flies with 4 wings are not good enough. What would be?

Nothing. People like Coulter and Company are not interested in what's true. They are interested in what satisfies their egos and world views.

138 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:13:41pm

re: #134 Naso Tang

The problem is that she is, along with the likes of Fox and the GOP, in a strong position to "educate" the stupid and make sure they stay that way.

I agree. Her ability to convince and to validate existing bias is what makes her dangerous.

139 laZardo  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:14:49pm

Evening folks.

Regarding evolution I like to believe that the reason we have not been contacted by intelligent extraterrestrial life because they literally evolved to extinction. That is, either they became too "complex" to survive or they just generally killed each other off.

Survival of the simplest, as it were.

140 freetoken  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:16:28pm

re: #119 b_sharp

He's using a broad definition of creationist to include old Earth creationists even though common use of the term specifies young Earth beliefs.

Son of Erick's claim still fails, as both the Pew and Gallup long running survey show.

141 jvic  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:17:44pm

re: #133 Naso Tang

re: #135 b_sharp

IMHO it's like politics; it is politics, actually. You don't try to convince your hard-core opponents; you try to convince the doubters and undecided swing voters. If you succeed, your opponents will be forced to modify their position, or at least to pretend to.

142 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:18:22pm

re: #139 laZardo

Evening folks.

Regarding evolution I like to believe that the reason we have not been contacted by intelligent extraterrestrial life because they literally evolved to extinction. That is, either they became too "complex" to survive or they just generally killed each other off.

Survival of the simplest, as it were.

The universe has been around ~14.5 billion years. We've been around 200,000 years and have been technological far less. Even if they last several million years, the chance of an overlap of our cultures is pretty small.

I'm not sure what you mean by complex, though.

143 laZardo  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:20:12pm

re: #142 b_sharp

"Complex" as in simple viruses and amoebas can wreak untold havoc (relative to size) on the more "recent" life forms. Plus, they don't really need to change much compared to sentient life in order to adapt to changing conditions.

144 Atlas Fails  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:20:12pm

Teabaggers need to stick to things like keeping the government away from their Medicare, because when they try to discuss objective scientific facts, their hatred for elitist (read: high school) education really shines through.

145 Talking Point Detective  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:21:13pm
Intelligent design scientists look at the evidence and develop their theories;

This is truly spectacular. What is the "evidence" that a supernatural being designed people that will die prematurely of miserable and painful diseases, or starvation?

146 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:22:40pm

re: #136 Floral Giraffe

Blessedly happy, and you?

Trying to get my return to work ironed out. I spent almost all of August on medical leave. The 'nodding off' I experienced that was behind me sometimes disappearing from threads here caught up with me in July and was ruining my ability to work. It's under control now, but there are still some issues relating to an ADA request I made that need to be finalized. I'm entirely expecting they get finalized this week. Then I can get back to selling events.

147 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:25:02pm

re: #143 laZardo

"Complex" as in simple viruses and amoebas can wreak untold havoc (relative to size) on the more "recent" life forms. Plus, they don't really need to change much compared to sentient life in order to adapt to changing conditions.

Gotcha.

Viruses, bacteria and parasites are the reason we'll keep evolving.

148 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:26:37pm

re: #141 jvic

re: #135 b_sharp

IMHO it's like politics; it is politics, actually. You don't try to convince your hard-core opponents; you try to convince the doubters and undecided swing voters. If you succeed, your opponents will be forced to modify their position, or at least to pretend to.

Exactly so. It's also how you win guerrilla wars: Isolate the hard-core insurgents from the rest. You can sway those who are 'along for the ride' are hired guns, or those who have specific grievances you can solve. The core ideological fighters will not be swayed; They can only be neutralized by capture or death.

149 jvic  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:26:49pm

Thanks for the things I learned tonight. I'm sure I'll learn a few more when I check the thread in the morning.

150 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:26:59pm

re: #145 Talking Point Detective

This is truly spectacular. What is the "evidence" that a supernatural being designed people that will die prematurely of miserable and painful diseases, or starvation?

The specified complexity of all of nature around you.

I jest.

151 darthstar  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:36:59pm

Ann Coulter doesn't believe a goddamn thing. She's only spewing whatever shit she thinks will give her a paycheck. I can't stand that fucking skank.

Okay, maybe skank is too kind a word for Coulter.

152 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:37:50pm

re: #151 darthstar

Ann Coulter doesn't believe a goddamn thing. She's only spewing whatever shit she thinks will give her a paycheck. I can't stand that fucking skank.

She always speaks very highly of you!

153 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:38:29pm

re: #152 sattv4u2

She always speaks very highly of you!

And your mother.

154 darthstar  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:38:34pm

re: #152 sattv4u2

She always speaks very highly of you!

Just because she went to 67 Dead shows doesn't excuse her turning into a walking cesspool of nonsense.

155 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:39:22pm

re: #154 darthstar

Just because she went to 67 Dead shows doesn't excuse her turning into a walking cesspool of nonsense.

How many would it have taken?

156 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:39:52pm

re: #153 b_sharp

And your mother.

in or out of combat boots?

157 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:40:14pm

Goodnight dudes. Time for my beauty sleep.

158 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:40:41pm

re: #157 b_sharp

Goodnight dudes. Time for my beauty sleep.

see you in a few months!
//

159 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:40:50pm

re: #156 sattv4u2

in or out of combat boots?

In. And net stockings.

160 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:41:23pm

re: #159 b_sharp

In. And net stockings.

Fish or Inter?

161 Kronocide  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:41:37pm

re: #151 darthstar

Okay, maybe skank is too kind a word for Coulter.

Hey fucker, my 1st, 2nd, 4th, 9th, 11th, and 13th.... and 15th and 16th..... girlfriends were skanks.

162 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:42:24pm

re: #160 sattv4u2

Fish or Inter?

Fish.

I'm not here by the way.

163 darthstar  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:42:32pm

re: #161 BigPapa

Hey fucker, my 1st, 2nd, 4th, 9th, 11th, and 13th... and 15th and 16th... girlfriends were skanks.

Lucky you.

164 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:43:08pm

re: #162 b_sharp

Fish.

I'm not here by the way.

And neither are you!

165 b_Snark  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:44:02pm

re: #164 sattv4u2

And neither are you!

That's what you said.

166 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:44:37pm

re: #157 b_sharp

Goodnight dudes. Time for my beauty sleep.

LIES
:P

167 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:46:55pm

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

We totally drink Budweiser when no one is watching us.

Pffft, Bud? The Beast (Milwaukee's Best) is where is at to get hammered cheap...one step above Mickey's, St. Ide's, and Colt 45.

168 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:47:31pm

re: #146 Dark_Falcon

Best wishes, for a good outcome for you.
Health is the most important thing.
*smooch*

169 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:50:08pm

re: #168 Floral Giraffe

Best wishes, for a good outcome for you.
Health is the most important thing.
*smooch*

Image: Giraffe_1920x1200.jpg
:P

170 Kronocide  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:53:18pm

It's a Filter kind of night.

171 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:55:25pm

re: #169 Varek Raith

Image: Giraffe_1920x1200.jpg
:P

Giraffes need long tongues to reach pact the thorns of trees to eat their leaves. It's also why even if they use wire mesh to keep giraffes from eating leaves off a tree, the giraffes will still eat any leaf close to the mesh.

172 darthstar  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:55:50pm

re: #169 Varek Raith

Image: Giraffe_1920x1200.jpg
:P

Better still
Image: giraffe.gif

173 Gus  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:57:02pm

Went to the Watsonville Fly-In today. Got a bunch more pic but here's a few.

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174 darthstar  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:57:13pm

Ooh...did you hear that? I think it was the sound of my bed calling me.

175 Atlas Fails  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:57:21pm

The world according to creationists.

176 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:57:42pm

#170 BigPapa

It's a Filter kind of night.

Hi BP! Yes, it is I. You have discovered my real identity.

177 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 9:59:27pm

re: #173 Gus 802

Went to the Watsonville Fly-In today. Got a bunch more pic but here's a few.

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Sweet.

178 Atlas Fails  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:00:44pm

A video that creationists need to watch. They would also be well-advised to take the advice in the song's title.

179 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:02:55pm

re: #173 Gus 802

Went to the Watsonville Fly-In today. Got a bunch more pic but here's a few.

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Nice shots! I like the way the propellers show motion blur

180 Gus  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:03:45pm
181 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:04:09pm

re: #173 Gus 802

Went to the Watsonville Fly-In today. Got a bunch more pic but here's a few.

Image: Watsonville-01.jpg
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P-51 Mustangs, a F4U Corsair, a P-40 Warhawk, and what looked like an F6F Hellcat. Quite a collection of WWII fighters.

182 Gus  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:04:35pm

re: #179 Rightwingconspirator

Nice shots! I like the way the propellers show motion blur

Thanks. I know. It's pretty hard keeping the camera still and taking a moving object with the shutter slow enough to catch that. But it looks better that way.

183 Gus  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:05:23pm

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

P-51 Mustangs, a F4U Corsair, a P-40 Warhawk, and what looked like an F6F Hellcat. Quite a collection of WWII fighters.

No Corsair. :) You're probably looking at the Bearcat.

184 Four More Tears  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:06:18pm

re: #178 Atlas Fails

Never saw that before. Pretty kick ass video.

185 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:07:38pm

re: #183 Gus 802

No Corsair. :) You're probably looking at the Bearcat.

Sorry. You're right, but I'd thought I saw on of the front planes in the first photo having the Corsair's bent wings. But looking closely I can see its a Bearcat, a type that didn't get a chance to really prove itself.

186 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:10:10pm

I'm out. Gotta go sleep off this stomach flu that cost me the day.

187 laZardo  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:12:28pm

So apparently we not only de-facto sponsored the Gaddafi government, but one of the people we had "extraordinarily rendered" now holds a position of power within the NTC.

Can you say "backfire?"

188 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:18:56pm

Goodnight, all.

189 Gus  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:20:28pm

Guess I'll hit the hay too. Night.

190 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:20:50pm

re: #169 Varek Raith

Image: Giraffe_1920x1200.jpg
:P

Don't you WISH you could do that with your tongue?
//sorta

191 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:25:47pm

re: #172 darthstar

Better still
Image: giraffe.gif

LOL!
Nom Nom Nom!

192 jvic  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:28:37pm

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

We totally drink Budweiser when no one is watching us.

What does this remind me of? What? What? What? Oh yeah: Junk Food Junkie.

Good night again.

193 freetoken  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:42:04pm

So, I put it all in a Page.

194 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 11:00:17pm

More Levin dumping on Ron Paul and his supporters, Paulbots react with standard seething rage:

WINTERSET, Ia. – Two weeks away from the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, presidential candidate and Texas Rep. Ron Paul says that U.S. intervention in the Middle East is a main motivation behind terrorist hostilities toward America, and that Islam is not a threat to the nation.

Would you vote for this guy? I mean, come on, folks: Does this sound like a conservative Republican to you or like crackpot?

195 boxhead  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 11:05:30pm

Ann Coulter is just a tool. She is less genuine than Hulk Hogan.

196 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Sep 3, 2011 11:37:07pm

re: #194 000G

More Levin dumping on Ron Paul and his supporters, Paulbots react with standard seething rage:

[Video]Would you vote for this guy? I mean, come on, folks: Does this sound like a conservative Republican to you or like crackpot?

Why can't he be both? ? ?

197 freetoken  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 12:16:14am

The Peanuts!

198 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 12:19:01am

I came across the photo linked below today (safe for work but not for your brain) and I'm left wondering why, why would anybody think making this was a good idea? If you don't want to click (and I can't blame you with my sales pitch) it's a photo of some guy holding a pregnant woman (bare belly, with epic stretch marks) close while pointing a gun at the camera. Perhaps you've already seen it, it's making the rounds. Dude has fucking crazy eyes and the woman has a surreal blissful smile, the disconnect between their two expressions is possibly the creepiest thing in one already epically creepy photograph. I'm guessing that it's supposed to be some kind of fucked up anti-abortion statement, but I can't help but pity any child raised by these screwheaded psychopaths.

Most disturbing photo ever. (You have been warned.)

199 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 12:20:15am

re: #198 goddamnedfrank

I came across the photo linked below today (safe for work but not for your brain) and I left wondering why, why would anybody think making this was a good idea? If you don't want to click (and I can't blame you with my sales pitch) it's a photo of some guy holding a pregnant woman (bare belly, with epic stretch marks) close while pointing a gun at the camera. Perhaps you've already seen it, it's making the rounds. Dude has fucking crazy eyes and the woman has a surreal blissful smile, the disconnect between their two expressions is possibly the creepiest thing in one already epically creepy photograph. I'm guessing that it's supposed to be some kind of fucked up anti-abortion statement, but I can't help but pity any child raised by these screwheaded psychopaths.

Most disturbing photo ever. (You have been warned.)

What.The.Fuck?

200 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 12:23:32am

re: #199 talon_262

What.The.Fuck?

Exactly, right, it's like looking at pure distilled insanity. What has been seen cannot be unseeen.

201 docproto48  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 12:34:33am

re: #2 publicityStunted

The IMAX corporation would offer hefty consulting fees for someone with Coulter's expertise in projection.

I agree, a stunning display of how to effectively use projection to make argue against your own argument while you argue for it

Lets say for arguments sake Genesis is the word of God presented by dictation to a scribe. The inability to understand big bang/primordial soup/evolution in the 21st century means that to present it in a way that could be understood even at the time of Moses much less 6000 years Ago to Adam(fundamentalist calendar) would not have been possible therefore I consider Genesis 1 to be basically a "legend" of the origin of the how earth started. As a Physician with degrees in Zoology and Physics but total failure in spelling. These conceps are easy for me to explain as well as to appreciate how easy it is for comprehension problems to occur.
to quote Einstein:
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds...As usual he was spot on

and no I'm not an atheist

202 Fozzie Bear  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 1:02:09am

The whole "transitional form" argument is so absurd.

Every fossil, by definition, is a transitional form. All of them. We are a transitional form.

All that argument reveals is that the person making the argument doesn't understand the fundamental premise of what they are attempting to debunk.

203 mcaton  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 1:18:46am

It's amazing how often we see this "liberal = evolutionist = atheist" obsession from people like Coulter. They are not even close to the same thing. There are many, perhaps the majority, of conservatives who see evolution as the best explanation for how we got here. (I'm one of them.) There are many Christians who also accept evolution as the best explanation (like the head of the NIH). And there are many liberal Christians. Does she think that pro-evolution conservatives are really just sneaky liberals, or we're just so stupid we're hoodwinked by the conspiracy?

204 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 1:32:17am

Ann Coulter's in sales, selling crazy to stupid :D

205 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 1:32:33am

re: #202 Fozzie Bear

sup fozzie

206 Laughing Gas  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 1:48:35am

Does anybody believe that Coulter really believes this bullshit? She's a performance artist, who does this just to stir up liberals' outrage and sell books. Although, she seems to have been edged out as the queen of verbal abuse by Pamela Geller.

207 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 2:08:06am

re: #2 publicityStunted

The IMAX corporation would offer hefty consulting fees for someone with Coulter's expertise in projection.

Yep. Classic wingnut behaviour. At some level they become dimly aware that the criticisms levelled against them are indeed entirely devastating, so they try to turn them around on their critics as if trying to harness their magical power for themselves. lol

208 freetoken  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 2:13:57am

re: #207 Jimmah

Yep. Classic wingnut behaviour. At some level they become dimly aware that the criticisms levelled against them are indeed entirely devastating, so they try to turn them around on their critics as if trying to harness their magical power for themselves. lol

Agree totally. Indeed, that is partly what drove me to do my latest Page on Erickson.

209 researchok  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 2:14:14am

Morning, all

210 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 2:17:40am

re: #204 WindUpBird

Ann Coulter's in sales, selling crazy to stupid :D

Her next book should be called "Why Liberals are all a Bunch of Crazy Blonde Attention Seeking Worthless Book Writing Gimboids with Unusually Large Adams Apples"

211 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 2:25:50am

re: #208 freetoken

Agree totally. Indeed, that is partly what drove me to do my latest Page on Erickson.

Cool - checking it out now.

212 freetoken  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 2:32:16am

I see that PaleoPat wrote another article (Thursday) implying that WWII was all Britain's fault.

Dude just won't give up trying to spin anything to support his cultural supremacist beliefs.

213 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 2:41:27am

Morning Honcos.

214 freetoken  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 2:41:30am

TS Lee is just sitting on the coastline, spinning away:

[Link: radar.weather.gov...]

215 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 2:45:54am

re: #214 freetoken

TS Lee is just sitting on the coastline, spinning away:

[Link: radar.weather.gov...]

I'm sure Reine is getting smacked around.

216 hellosnackbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 2:49:40am

re#210 Jimmah,
I've been fascinated by this creature for some time;but only read reviews
of her books.
It's my belief that she is a professional polemicist who has has established a book buying fan base amongst all branches of the head case right.
She's established herself as a writing pop star (she had an appearance on BBC newsnight with Jeremy Paxman) and was quite witty.
I wouldn't be surprised if she suddenly declared herself an atheist and
a supporter of science;but probably not whilst her mouthings are making
her such a good living.
I'm wondering if one of her ex lovers will reveal publicly what she really believes?

217 freetoken  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 2:53:05am

re: #216 hellosnackbar

It's my belief that she is a professional polemicist

Yes, she is. She does these sort of things to get attention and make money. But, it is important to realize why she can make money on this stuff, and from whom. She knows that her "conservative" fan base will buy her stuff as long as she can market herself as a victim of the "liberals", thus making herself a martyr for the conservative cause.

I'm wondering if one of her ex lovers will reveal publicly what she really believes?

Well, Mickey Kaus seems to think she's fine.

218 Decatur Deb  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 3:35:40am

re: #15 reine.de.tout

Massive Ronald Knox upding.

219 Decatur Deb  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 3:37:20am

re: #216 hellosnackbar

re#210 Jimmah,
I've been fascinated by this creature for some time;but only read reviews
of her books.
It's my belief that she is a professional polemicist who has has established a book buying fan base amongst all branches of the head case right.
She's established herself as a writing pop star (she had an appearance on BBC newsnight with Jeremy Paxman) and was quite witty.
I wouldn't be surprised if she suddenly declared herself an atheist and
a supporter of science;but probably not whilst her mouthings are making
her such a good living.
I'm wondering if one of her ex lovers will reveal publicly what she really believes?

She is also the close model for the victim in one of the Law and Order series. It doesn't get any better than that.

220 RogueOne  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 3:49:04am

Morning Folks!

221 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 3:53:41am

re: #220 RogueOne

Morning Folks!

WTF was up with the weather in South Bend yesterday? Took me 6 hours to watch a football game!!

222 RogueOne  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 3:54:59am

re: #221 Cannadian Club Akbar

It came through pretty good. We only got a small part of it where I am, lots of thunder and lightening but not a lot of rain.

223 RogueOne  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:06:18am

re: #221 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought you said he was dead?

Lee Roy Selmon 'stable' and breathing on his own, brother says
[Link: www2.tbo.com...]

224 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:08:03am

re: #223 RogueOne

I thought you said he was dead?

Lee Roy Selmon 'stable' and breathing on his own, brother says
[Link: www2.tbo.com...]

No, I said he was in serious critical condition. Which he was yesterday.

225 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:10:13am

re: #224 Cannadian Club Akbar

Extremely critical condition. Sheesh.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

226 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:12:58am

re: #221 Cannadian Club Akbar

WTF was up with the weather in South Bend yesterday? Took me 6 hours to watch a football game!!

What are you bitching about?
It kept you from doing something productive!

227 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:14:21am

Catchy as always.
228 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:20:32am

I was looking for a site that would say Apollo 18 was real, but haven't found one. But I found this comment:
I'm sticking to we never went to the moon. Think about the lander. Jet engines do not work in a space. also not enough fuel for the lander to land and return to orbit. The lander is to small.

And this one followed:
You're right, jet engines don't work in space. That's why they use rocket engines. And it takes far less fuel to blast off from the moon than from earth. These tired old claims have all been dealt with, many times before. Yawn.

I love the intertube.

229 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:22:46am

re: #228 Cannadian Club Akbar

I was looking for a site that would say Apollo 18 was real, but haven't found one. But I found this comment:
I'm sticking to we never went to the moon. Think about the lander. Jet engines do not work in a space. also not enough fuel for the lander to land and return to orbit. The lander is to small.

And this one followed:
You're right, jet engines don't work in space. That's why they use rocket engines. And it takes far less fuel to blast off from the moon than from earth. These tired old claims have all been dealt with, many times before. Yawn.

I love the intertube.

Lol.

230 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:24:09am
231 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:30:41am

re: #230 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm kinda pissed at Eharmony right about now.

Miss Eman was not able to accept the award, a spokseman for Guinness said.
"Seems as if we couldn't widen the doors enough to extract her from her trailer"

232 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:40:12am

re: #230 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm kinda pissed at Eharmony right about now.

The hell is wrong with people?!

233 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:42:10am

re: #232 Varek Raith

The hell is wrong with people?!

Look, just because you have no goals in life.....
/

234 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:46:01am

re: #233 Cannadian Club Akbar

Look, just because you have no goals in life...
/

At least I won't be taken away in dump truck hearse!
:P

235 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:51:36am

re: #234 Varek Raith

At least I won't be taken away in dump truck herse Hefty Bag!
:P

236 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:51:40am

re: #234 Varek Raith

At least I won't be taken away in dump truck hearse!
:P

[Link: westjobs.files.wordpress.com...]
Notice the stairs.

237 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:55:00am

re: #236 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: westjobs.files.wordpress.com...]
Notice the stairs.

I got to ride in one of those when I was a kid.
IT WAS AWESOME!
:)

238 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:59:44am

re: #237 Varek Raith

I got to ride in one of those when I was a kid.
IT WAS AWESOME!
:)

I would love to do something like this.
[Link: enr.construction.com...]

239 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:59:51am

re: #237 Varek Raith

I got to ride in one of those when I was a kid.
IT WAS AWESOME!
:)

Your memory is a little hazy

THIS is what you had a ride on

[Link: www.kaboodle.com...]

240 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 5:01:19am

re: #238 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would love to do OWN something like this.
[Link: enr.construction.com...]

241 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 5:02:43am

re: #240 Cannadian Club Akbar

Maybe you should start small

[Link: indiecrafts.craftgossip.com...]

242 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 5:04:46am

re: #241 sattv4u2

The place I posted about is only 5 acres. I got that. I thought you might need at least 10. Huh.

243 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 5:06:33am

re: #239 sattv4u2

Your memory is a little hazy

THIS is what you had a ride on

[Link: www.kaboodle.com...]

You're just jealous.

244 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 5:09:35am

re: #242 Cannadian Club Akbar

The place I posted about is only 5 acres. I got that. I thought you might need at least 10. Huh.


Dig This sells three-hour packages that consist of a 30-minute safety and operation orientation followed by two hours of maneuvering either a bulldozer or excavator

ummm,,, eerrrrr,,, you're being shortchanged by 30 minutes!!

245 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 5:10:44am

re: #244 sattv4u2


Dig This sells three-hour packages that consist of a 30-minute safety and operation orientation followed by two hours of maneuvering either a bulldozer or excavator

ummm,,, eerrr,,, you're being shortchanged by 30 minutes!!

You forgot about the 30 minute break. It is a union playground...

246 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 5:12:33am

re: #245 Cannadian Club Akbar

You forgot about the 30 minute break. It is a union playground...

Good point

Paid vacations/ holidays
health insurance plan
6 supervisors for every heavy machine operator


This guys overhead is massive!

247 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 5:19:28am

I guess this is a better idea then my "Fuck Off, I'm on Vacation" email.
[Link: shine.yahoo.com...]

248 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 5:23:46am

Good Morning Honcos!!

249 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 5:30:40am

re: #248 rwdflynavy

Good Morning Honcos!!

There goes the neighborhood

250 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 5:38:50am

Alrighty. There are 3 different stores with 3 different types of ribs on sale. I'm thinking "yes". BBL.

251 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 5:42:41am

re: #250 Cannadian Club Akbar

Alrighty. There are 3 different stores with 3 different types of ribs on sale. I'm thinking "yes". BBL.

Pork, beef and ,,,??? human?!?!

252 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 5:56:34am

BTW, did anyone else lose connection to LGF last night around 12pm est?

253 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 6:15:58am

re: #252 Naso Tang

BTW, did anyone else lose connection to LGF last night around 12pm est?

Got to work and logged on just after midnight. No issues between then and now (that I noticed)

254 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 6:22:52am

re: #253 sattv4u2

Strange. Everything else worked here. DNS issue I guess.

255 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 6:30:42am

re: #3 dr. luba

P-Zed has been writing about this for several days now.

I notice that the first posts on World Nut Daily straighten her position out nicely.

256 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 6:37:19am

re: #215 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm sure Reine is getting smacked around.

Mornin'!
No, not too bad.
Rain off and on, a few gusts of wind.
Nothing awful.

257 BeenHereAwhile  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 6:38:21am

re: #251 sattv4u2

Pork, beef and ,,,??? human?!?!

Human AKA "Long Pig."

258 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 6:39:46am

re: #256 reine.de.tout

Mornin'!
No, not too bad.
Rain off and on, a few gusts of wind.
Nothing awful.

:)

Power stay on throughout?

259 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 6:40:57am

re: #257 BeenHereAwhile

Human AKA "Long Pig."

Only after Male Enhancement drugs

260 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 6:44:23am

re: #258 sattv4u2

:)

Power stay on throughout?

yes!
And it's still on.
*sigh of relief, followed by knocking on wood*

261 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 6:51:11am

Morning all!

How is the day so far?

262 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 6:55:14am

re: #261 ggt

Morning all!

How is the day so far?

9 hours and 55 minutes old here on the east coast!

263 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 6:55:23am

re: #232 Varek Raith

The hell is wrong with people?!

She started getting more dates - - - - that is a strong motivator for some.

264 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 6:56:41am

re: #262 sattv4u2

9 hours and 55 minutes old here on the east coast!

Mine is about an hour behind ya'

265 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 6:58:40am

re: #264 ggt

Mine is about an hour behind ya'

slow poke

266 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 7:06:20am

Update: Big win for Republicans....
2nd gun added to Pima County GOP raffle

The Pima County Republican Party’s controversial gun raffle fundraiser was such a success that they ended up raffling off another weapon.

The notoriety fueled such demand, said interim Chairman Mike Shaw, not only did the raffle for the Glock pistol sell out, but they subsequently raffled a deer rifle as well.

The raffle garnered worldwide attention because it was organizes eight months after the Tucson shooting spree.

The model of Glock is not the same as the one Jared Lee Loughner used in the Jan. 8, rampage. The gun used by Loughner was a Glock 19. The weapon being raffled is a Glock 23.

267 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 7:09:06am

re: #266 Killgore Trout

Update: Big win for Republicans...
2nd gun added to Pima County GOP raffle

It's Arizona --they likes their guns.

268 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 7:10:31am

Alex Jones made the SPLC weekly email digest:

Whites are the New Al Quaeda.

269 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 7:12:07am

re: #268 ggt

Alex Jones made the SPLC weekly email digest:

Whites are the New Al Quaeda.

It's nice to see him getting the attention he deserves. Drudge doesn't link to him much anymore. I wonder if they had a falling out.

270 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 7:13:18am

re: #269 Killgore Trout

It's nice to see him getting the attention he deserves. Drudge doesn't link to him much anymore. I wonder if they had a falling out.

If they did, I'm sure it's because of some conspiracy!

271 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 7:22:37am

It cooled off a bit since the rain yesterday, which is nice.

Should make for some nice BBQ's for people.

Lizards planning any fun excursions for the Labor Day Holiday. Hubby and I spent the last 2 days doing our much over due Spring Cleaning. I have to work today. Tomorrow, I plan doing absolutely nothing.

272 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 7:29:02am

I linked this yesterday and started thinking about it.

Could Amazon.com move off-shore and avoid tax all together? How does that work?

273 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 7:36:15am

Hello --anyone there?

Doesn't matter, I have to log-off.

Have a great day all!

274 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 7:38:14am

re: #273 ggt

Hello --anyone there?

Doesn't matter, I have to log-off.

Have a great day all!

Bout time

EVERYONE,, we can start chatting again,, GGT is gone!!!

//

275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:10:37am

"Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers."
-Sarah Palin

276 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:10:49am

re: #251 sattv4u2

Pork, beef and ,,,??? human?!?!

Country, spare and baby back.

277 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:15:37am

re: #275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers."
-Sarah Palin

I once skied with a stripper,, does that count??
Wait ,, make that TWICE!! (I was a lot younger then)

278 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:15:58am

re: #276 Cannadian Club Akbar

Country, spare and baby back.

baby, can you spare a rib, in the country~!

279 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:20:04am

re: #278 sattv4u2

baby, can you spare a rib, in the country~!

I went with the chicken instead.

280 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:24:37am

re: #279 Cannadian Club Akbar

I went with the chicken instead.

Went where?

A movie and dinner?

OR ,,,

Across the road!!

281 darthstar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:30:55am

re: #275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers."
-Sarah Palin

She would know...not that she's ever skied.

Mornin' everyone.

282 darthstar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:33:05am

Uh-oh...bad news for Republicans...voters are going to start dying slower than they'd hoped.

The Health & Human Services Department had estimated that the changes in the law would result in about 1.2 million new enrollees in 2011. However, according to Aaron Smith, the executive director of a Washington based non-profit that advocates for the young, it now looks as if that number will be exceeded.

This is very good news – particularly for those in the individual and small group markets that tend not to ‘self-insure’ as the larger corporations tend to do.

283 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:35:05am

re: #271 ggt

It cooled off a bit since the rain yesterday, which is nice.

Should make for some nice BBQ's for people.

Lizards planning any fun excursions for the Labor Day Holiday. Hubby and I spent the last 2 days doing our much over due Spring Cleaning. I have to work today. Tomorrow, I plan doing absolutely nothing.

I'm up in western NY already visiting relatives (my brother) and planning for tomorrow's BBQ. Muggy and in the mid to high 80s around here currently.

284 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:36:41am

re: #283 oaktree

I'm up in western NY already visiting relatives (my brother) and planning for tomorrow's BBQ. Muggy and in the mid to high 80s around here currently.

Better known as Pennsylvania!!

/

285 darthstar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:37:16am

re: #280 sattv4u2

Went where?

A movie and dinner?

OR ,,,

Across the road!!

At least you didn't ask who came first.

286 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:38:19am

re: #285 darthstar

At least you didn't ask who came first.

That was the more bawdy version of Abbott and Costellos "Who's On First"

287 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:38:41am

re: #284 sattv4u2

Better known as Pennsylvania!!

/

Hisss. Another who thinks "NY" just means the city and that the rest of the state doesn't count. :p

288 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:40:44am

re: #287 oaktree

Hisss. Another who thinks "NY" just means the city and that the rest of the state doesn't count. :p

Hey ,,, I was born and raised in Boston

We believed anything west of state highway 128 (which formed a semi-circle about 12 miles around Boston) was New York

[Link: maps.google.com...]

289 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:41:40am

re: #288 sattv4u2

hmmm, thats not the map i copied!

290 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:42:03am

re: #6 jaunte

Ann Coulter is a transitional organism.

On the way to a less evolved form of life.

291 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:46:12am

re: #285 darthstar

At least you didn't ask who came first.

Kinky sex, you use a feather. Perverted sex, you use the whole chicken.

292 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:46:34am

re: #282 darthstar

Uh-oh...bad news for Republicans...voters are going to start dying slower than they'd hoped.

Wow, that's really good news. This also addresses the Republican/Fox News Meme that small healthcare reform hurts small business....

According to a Kaiser survey, there has been a 46% uptick in businesses with less than 10 employees offering health benefits as compared to last year.

That is a big number.

Further improving the outlook, the IRS has, in the past month, issued guidelines for small businesses which very much bolster the tax credits offered. Included in those guidelines are provisions that clarify that the tax credit will not be reduced by a state health care tax credit or subsidy (except in limited circumstances to prevent abuse of the credit); that small businesses can receive the credit not only for traditional health insurance coverage but also for add-on dental, vision, and other limited-scope coverage; and detailed guidance on how a small business can determine whether it is eligible and how large a credit it will receive.

Health care reform is working, folks – and we have yet to get to the really big benefits which kick in come 2014.

293 darthstar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:50:06am

re: #292 Killgore Trout

Wow, that's really good news. This also addresses the Republican/Fox News Meme that small healthcare reform hurts small business...

It is good news...I suppose my snarky caption didn't do it justice. Someone will likely page it though.

294 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:51:15am

re: #293 darthstar

It is good news...I suppose my snarky caption didn't do it justice. Someone will likely page it though.

The article is from May. I don't care, I just wasn't sure if you saw that.

295 darthstar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:52:42am

re: #294 Cannadian Club Akbar

The article is from May. I don't care, I just wasn't sure if you saw that.

No, I didn't...oh well...that simply means more of the same.

296 darthstar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:53:40am

re: #291 Cannadian Club Akbar

Kinky sex, you use a feather. Perverted sex, you use the whole chicken.

and what do you call it when the chicken is wearing a leather mask?

297 Kronocide  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:55:12am

re: #296 darthstar

and what do you call it when the chicken is wearing a leather mask?

Cowspankin. But don't use hot sauce.

298 Mark Winter  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:55:15am

"during the Cambrian Period more than 500 million years ago"

Uh oh, Anne, please call your local bible thumper.

299 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:55:18am

re: #296 darthstar

and what do you call it when the chicken is wearing a leather mask?

I'm gonna regret this. I dunno?

300 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:58:56am

Neat. A white-tail doe and two fawns just walked through the backyard here about 20' from the window. They spooked and ran into the woods though when I moved to get the camera.

301 darthstar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:58:56am

re: #299 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm gonna regret this. I dunno?

That's a good thing.
re: #297 BigPapa

Cowspankin. But don't use hot sauce.

Well, I thought I was just making that up. BigPapa surprises (and impresses)!

302 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:59:43am

re: #300 oaktree

Neat. A white-tail doe and two fawns just walked through the backyard here about 20' from the window. They spooked and ran into the woods though when I moved to get the camera. shotgun

303 darthstar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 9:01:12am

re: #300 oaktree

Neat. A white-tail doe and two fawns just walked through the backyard here about 20' from the window. They spooked and ran into the woods though when I moved to get the camera.

They were probably frightened off by the chicken.

304 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 9:01:51am

re: #303 darthstar

They were probably frightened off by the chicken.

Only because she had that leather mask on!

305 darthstar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 9:03:17am

re: #304 sattv4u2

Only because she had that leather mask on!

I have to admit I'd find that a little intimidating myself.

306 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 9:04:08am

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

307 blueraven  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 9:04:36am

re: #296 darthstar

and what do you call it when the chicken is wearing a leather mask?

Gallo del Sade

308 darthstar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 9:06:02am

re: #305 darthstar

I have to admit I'd find that a little intimidating myself.

And with good reason...

309 darthstar  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 9:07:38am

Okay...time to run the dogs...Play nice everyone...careful of the chickens.

310 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 9:14:50am
311 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 9:15:34am

Who honestly is shocked? And lol at the religion of Darwinism nonsense.

312 bratwurst  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 9:19:20am

re: #310 Killgore Trout

Image: 3ZphU.png

RINO!!!!11!!!!

313 blueraven  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 9:24:18am

re: #310 Killgore Trout

Image: 3ZphU.png

Their number is negligible and they are stupid...but their shrill voice is loud.

314 funky chicken  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 10:43:29am

re: #28 albusteve

post something original about Coulter...I dare you

Well, according to the Vatican, Ann Coulter is absurd.

Good article about the Vatican's views on creationism:
[Link: www.newscientist.com...]

315 barry123  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 4:45:17pm

I understand that Ann didn't lose any money in the Bush Crash of 2008. She was already flat.

316 labman57  Sun, Sep 4, 2011 10:09:20pm

"Intelligent Design scientist" is an oxymoron, much as is "Ann Coulter, rational thinker".

Evolution is a verifiable fact. It is the mechanism through which it occurs -- natural selection -- that comprises the theory.

People who do not understand how science works seem to think that a "theory" is somehow lacking in power and validity.  Scientific theories are our best explanation for an event or phenomenon based on the available evidence, i.e., a theory tells us HOW it happens.  Theories have generally been subjected to rigorous testing and represent the consensus of the scientific community, whereas a hypothesis is a possible explanation and has not necessarily been extensively tested.

Calling something a theory does not cheapen or weaken it.  On the contrary, the term "theory" gives it legitimacy as something that is scientifically testable and that has been rigorously examined either mathematically or empirically to the point that the available evidence overwhelming supports it.

Quantum mechanics, special and general relativity, molecular kinetics -- all THEORIES!

Theories are based on the best empirical EVIDENCE available, not PROOF. There is an incredible wealth of evidence -- both geological and biochemical -- to support evolution by natural selection.

Creationism and ID are faith-based concepts. Their "evidence" consists of the allegories provided in the Bible, nothing more.


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