Senate Republicans Block Disaster Aid Bill

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In the latest demonstration of the GOP’s concern for the well-being of the American people, Senate Republicans have blocked a disaster aid bill to replenish FEMA’s funding.

Republicans blocked an effort Monday by Senate Democrats to quickly pass a $7 billion aid package for victims of recent natural disasters like Hurricane Irene, tornadoes in the Midwest and the South and floods along the Mississippi, Missouri and other rivers.

On a 53-33 vote, the Senate rejected an attempt by Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., to bring up a bill that Democrats had hoped to use to replenish the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s depleted disaster fund. Democrats needed 60 votes to advance the measure.

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1 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:35:53am

Stay classy, GOP.

2 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:36:47am

assholes….$7b is small change for the good it does

3 Coracle  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:36:50am

Because, you know, disaster relief is gay.

4 mikec6666  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:37:18am

Don’t worry, disasters never happen in red states, do they? Soon they’ll remember why this is such a rancid position.

5 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:37:38am

Government cannot afford to spend any more money on anything else. Period. As soon as we get that through our heads, the GOP positions on spending become clear. The suffering of a a few hundred thousands is nothing compared to the cost of violating ideological principles that guide our nation.

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6 Interesting Times  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:37:38am

‘We’re the party of life,’ Perry said. ‘We ought to be coming up with ways to save lives.’

Disaster victims need not apply.

7 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:37:46am

This Congress has turned the filibuster into a menace.

8 BigPapa  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:38:19am

Bootstraps

9 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:40:40am

re: #2 albusteve

assholes…$7b is small change for the good it does

It helps people in need and does something Obama wants. Can’t allow that.

10 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:40:49am

Glad to see that the GOP has decided not to fight against God’s plan for America.
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11 Interesting Times  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:40:59am

On a related note, I just discovered the #TeaPartyApplauseLines hashtag:

Marnus3 Joseph J. Santorsa
#TeaPartyApplauseLines There’s a lot of food laying in the road if people weren’t too lazy to pick it up and eat it. #p2

GreenEyedLilo Jayelle
#TeaPartyApplauseLines “We shouldn’t reward people for moving to hurricane-prone areas like New Jersey.”

12 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:41:40am
Earlier Monday, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., said Republicans will attach a disaster aid package to must-pass legislation for keeping the government fully running past Sept. 30. That stopgap spending bill is likely to advance next week.

So it looks like they’re going to tie FEMA funding to moving the goalposts on promised spending….
John Boehner tries to cut deeper on 2012 funds

Instead of the agreed-upon appropriations target of $1.043 trillion, a stopgap continuing resolution or CR this week would be calibrated at a lower $1.035 trillion level. The idea – promoted by Speaker John Boehner — was to effectively withhold about $8 billion for the first two months of the fiscal year, with the money becoming available only as Senate Democrats come to terms with the House on the dozen annual spending bills that cover government operations.

13 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:42:29am

When God smites the unrighteous with an earthquake and hurricane, it’s kind of blasphemous to interfere.

14 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:42:46am

re: #12 Killgore Trout

So it looks like they’re going to tie FEMA funding to moving the goalposts on promised spending…
John Boehner tries to cut deeper on 2012 funds

House Republicans Consider Reneging On Budget Deal To Force Even Deeper Cuts

15 iossarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:42:56am

re: #13 Decatur Deb

When God smites the unrighteous with an earthquake and hurricane, it’s kind of blasphemous to interfere*.

* Unless it’s a Republican CD.

16 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:43:40am

Jerks.

17 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:43:43am

That’s 86 senators. The last time I checked my constitution, (which I keep in an ornate frame on the wall, lit with special lights, and an offering of incense at all times, pace Michelle Bachmann) there are 100. I could see 1 or 2 being out sick, but where are the other 14?

18 simoom  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:43:59am

I wish the media wouldn’t report it this way, like 60 votes is the default:

On a 53-33 vote, the Senate rejected an attempt by Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., to bring up a bill that Democrats had hoped to use to replenish the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s depleted disaster fund. Democrats needed 60 votes to advance the measure.

The reason there’s never any need for the GOP to justify their obstruction is because the media sells it to the public as perfectly normal.

19 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:44:16am

Sorry to go OT so soon
(one comment on the topic though,.,,SENATE,,, DO YOUR JOB,,YES,, THAT MEANS YOU REPUBLICANS!)

Anywho
Haven’t seen this mentioned (placed it in the last thread just as everyone was coming here)

Geezz Louise

US embassy in Kabul under attack - live updates

[Link: guardian.co.uk…]
Rockets fired at US embassy and ISAF HQ

Last “update” shows 7:22 p/m/

Don’t know of thats Kabul time, London time (it’s a Guardian article) or Eastern time last night

20 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:44:38am

re: #12 Killgore Trout

So it looks like they’re going to tie FEMA funding to moving the goalposts on promised spending…
John Boehner tries to cut deeper on 2012 funds

blackmail….the new compromise

21 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:45:10am

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

House Republicans Consider Reneging On Budget Deal To Force Even Deeper Cuts

Yup, and they’re willing to use disaster relief funds as a hostage. I’ll give them credit. They pretty much rule the show with their new found tactics. It does work and they can get whatever they want.

22 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:45:44am

re: #17 EmmmieG

That’s 86 senators. The last time I checked my constitution, (which I keep in an ornate frame on the wall, lit with special lights, and an offering of incense at all times, pace Michelle Bachmann) there are 100. I could see 1 or 2 being out sick, but where are the other 14?

In a budget cutting move, votes from the western state senators are being brought in by pony express!
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23 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:45:55am

re: #17 EmmmieG

That’s 86 senators. The last time I checked my constitution, (which I keep in an ornate frame on the wall, lit with special lights, and an offering of incense at all times, pace Michelle Bachmann) there are 100. I could see 1 or 2 being out sick, but where are the other 14?

Do you give it milk, too? It needs milk.

24 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:46:21am

re: #12 Killgore Trout

So it looks like they’re going to tie FEMA funding to moving the goalposts on promised spending…
John Boehner tries to cut deeper on 2012 funds

*sigh*

Assholes. First they threaten to make us default. Now this?

What are the chances that we’ll see a government shutdown before the elections next year?

25 BigPapa  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:46:41am

Discuss GOP Moronic Convergence aftermath, or discuss an attack in Kabul?

Hm….

26 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:46:43am

At this point, I wouldn’t vote for a more qualified Republican for any office, just because it gives their crazies one more vote to leverage when it comes to other issues.

Fuck you, GOP.

27 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:46:45am

re: #19 sattv4u2

Sorry to go OT so soon
(one comment on the topic though,.,,SENATE,,, DO YOUR JOB,,YES,, THAT MEANS YOU REPUBLICANS!)

Anywho
Haven’t seen this mentioned (placed it in the last thread just as everyone was coming here)

Geezz Louise

US embassy in Kabul under attack - live updates

[Link: [Link: www.guardian.co.uk…]…]
Rockets fired at US embassy and ISAF HQ

Last “update” shows 7:22 p/m/

Don’t know of thats Kabul time, London time (it’s a Guardian article) or Eastern time last night

Holy shit. This is what we call not good at all.

28 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:47:19am

re: #25 BigPapa

Discuss GOP Moronic Convergence aftermath, or discuss an attack in Kabul?

Hm…

I vote Kabul. I’m bored with the GOP’s primary offerings.

29 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:48:01am

re: #25 BigPapa

Discuss GOP Moronic Convergence aftermath, or discuss an attack in Kabul?

Hm…

I can multi-task. (as I did in that post)

Comes in handy in,, umm,, welll,, LIFE !

30 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:48:12am

re: #24 Lidane

*sigh*

Assholes. First they threaten to make us default. Now this?

What are the chances that we’ll see a government shutdown before the elections next year?

10% by Sep 30th. 15% by Dec 31st. According to inTrade.

31 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:48:12am

re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

I vote Kabul. I’m bored with the GOP’s primary offerings.

t/y

32 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:49:29am

re: #24 Lidane

*sigh*

Assholes. First they threaten to make us default. Now this?

What are the chances that we’ll see a government shutdown before the elections next year?

I think that’s a pretty strong possibility. Obama doesn’t seem to want to play hardball with them yet but they can’t be appeased. They’re going to keep pushing.

33 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:49:49am

Just remember that if your state governor doesn’t get those disaster declarations in, they can’t get the federal aid and assistance, and that includes the Gulf Coast states hit by TS Lee, Texas and the wildfires, the East Coast states from Irene and Lee, and any other natural disasters that occur every year that give no regard to borders or political affiliations.

The failure to pass the aid package is an abdication of the Congressional GOP to do their duty to provide aid to the states and the residents of those states.

Just remember that when those who are crying loudest for cutting spending before passing this package will be first to have their hands out if their own districts are affected by a natural disaster.

Pass the damned aid package. Heck, you’ve got GOP governors like Christie who are going against the Congressional GOP, and some GOPers from affected states are starting to feel the pressure to get the aid done - and are starting to lean on the leadership.

34 BigPapa  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:50:00am

re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

I vote Kabul. I’m bored with the GOP’s primary offerings.

I don’t think Kabul is much of a story at this point.

The Wingularity of last night is still much more disturbing.

35 Interesting Times  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:51:11am

re: #34 BigPapa

I don’t think Kabul is much of a story at this point.

And I doubt the American citizens being deprived of disaster aid due to GOP evil/stupidity particularly care about Kabul right now.

36 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:52:27am

re: #33 lawhawk

Disaster aid is unconstitutional; leave it up to the states.

37 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:52:27am

re: #35 publicityStunted

And I doubt the American citizens being deprived of disaster aid due to GOP evil/stupidity particularly care about Kabul right now.

I’m sure Kabul feels the same way.

38 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:52:40am

re: #34 BigPapa

I don’t think Kabul is much of a story at this point.

The Wingularity of last night is still much more disturbing.

Speaking of which…

Michele Bachmann: U.S. Immigration ‘Worked Very, Very Well’ Under The Asian Exclusion Act

In 1924, Congress passed a package of immigration laws — including the National Origins Act and the Asian Exclusion Act — establishing a quota system giving preferential treatment to European immigrants. Under these laws, the number of immigrants who could be admitted from a given country was capped at a percentage of the number of people from that nation who were living in the United States in 1890. Because Americans were overwhelmingly of European descent in 1890, the practical effect of these laws was an enormous thumb on the scale encouraging white immigration.
These quotas were eliminated by the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, an act which is widely credited for opening up our nation to new Americans of Asian and Central and South American descent. At last night’s CNN/Tea Party Republican presidential candidates’ debate, however, Bachmann claimed this decision to eliminate our past, misguided immigration policy was a big mistake.

39 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:53:36am

re: #33 lawhawk

How soon before Goodhair starts demanding that the aid package passes? Parts of Texas are still on fire.

40 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:53:57am

re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m sure the Americans manning the embassy under attack in Kabul feels the same way.

ftfy

41 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:54:45am

re: #35 publicityStunted

And I doubt the American citizens being deprived of disaster aid due to GOP evil/stupidity particularly care about Kabul right now.

“I’m sorry, but we can’t provide you with the means to repair your town or rebuild your business or feed your family because we need to teach Obama a lesson on how important it is not to tax the top 5% of income earners in the United States. Sure, you’re a tax payer too, but if you really loved Jesus, you’d be making a lot more and wouldn’t have been hit by a disaster anyways.”

42 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:54:48am

re: #38 JasonA

Speaking of which…

Michele Bachmann: U.S. Immigration ‘Worked Very, Very Well’ Under The Asian Exclusion Act

I’ve been meaning to comment on this. I am sure Michele “We should set a special committee to investigate anti American activity in Congress” Bachmann would have been fine with the 1924 quota limiting emigration from Eastern and Southern Europe since ya know all us Slavs are commies and anarchists!

43 ihateronpaul  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:54:50am

Pssshhhh, silly LIEberals! I can’t hear your whining about fema over my love for my country!!

/

44 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:56:22am

re: #39 Lidane

How soon before Goodhair starts demanding that the aid package passes? Parts of Texas are still on fire.

If he wants to be consistent, he should refuse all federal disaster aid.
It is not one of Congress’ enumerated powers!11!11!

45 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:56:23am

re: #39 Lidane

How soon before Goodhair starts demanding that the aid package passes? Parts of Texas are still on fire.

But I was told the land was rejoicing because of Perry’s prayer rally! Does rejoicing involve fire?

46 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:56:50am

re: #6 publicityStunted

‘We’re the party of life,’ Perry said. ‘We ought to be coming up with ways to save lives.’

.

Choose life! We are the party of forced childbirth for slutty bitches who can’t keep their legs together, and healthy business plans!

Vote for us, or burn in h-e double toothpicks!!

47 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:57:18am

re: #39 Lidane

Probably when his own hair starts getting singed. Until then, he’ll be content to let others push this nonsense. I’d have the slightest bit of respect if Perry came out and said quit with the BS and pass the aid package even if it means giving in to his state politics and securing aid for his own constituents - that would be doing his damned current job. If he isn’t pushing for that aid, then he isn’t doing his own job, let alone acting Presidential (you know, like character and fitness to serve as President).

48 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:58:18am

Mkay. I went and looked at the breakdown.

6 Republicans voted Yea. They were from Maine, Missouri, Nevada, Indiana, and Massachusetts.

Of the 14 non-voters, 6 were Democrats or Independents. Why both Senators from Louisiana chose not to vote, I do not get. Why would Mary Landrieu chose not to vote? I would think disaster relief would be near to her heart. Hutchinson chose not to vote.

Even if the D’s and I’s had voted, they would have been a vote short.

49 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:58:56am

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Does rejoicing involve fire?

If your name is Beavis, then yes.

50 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:59:10am

re: #38 JasonA

Speaking of which…

Michele Bachmann: U.S. Immigration ‘Worked Very, Very Well’ Under The Asian Exclusion Act

That law also excluded Jews (like the passengers on the St. Louis), who ultimately became victims of the Holocaust.

51 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 11:59:48am

re: #48 EmmmieG

Interesting (about the non-voters)

Thank you for your detective work!

52 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:00:07pm

re: #50 Alouette

That law also excluded Jews (like the passengers on the St. Louis), who ultimately became victims of the Holocaust.

I’ve read about that incident. A truly shameful incident and a reason I am not a huge FDR fan.

53 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:00:35pm

re: #50 Alouette

That law also excluded Jews (like the passengers on the St. Louis), who ultimately became victims of the Holocaust.

I’d like to see Michelle Malkin and Eric Cantor answer questions about Bachmann’s position.

54 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:00:39pm

re: #38 JasonA

Speaking of which…

Michele Bachmann: U.S. Immigration ‘Worked Very, Very Well’ Under The Asian Exclusion Act

Any move to deny Americans our kung pao chicken is…can’t say communist, can I…how about un-American?

55 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:00:40pm

re: #50 Alouette

That law also excluded Jews (like the passengers on the St. Louis), who ultimately became victims of the Holocaust.

Only because they did not convert to Christianity…so we have nothing to be ashamed of.

/

56 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:01:07pm

re: #38 JasonA

Speaking of which…

Michele Bachmann: U.S. Immigration ‘Worked Very, Very Well’ Under The Asian Exclusion Act

There is no possible interpretation of that other than racism.

57 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:02:09pm

re: #56 wrenchwench

There is no possible interpretation of that other than racism.

Stupidity.

58 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:02:18pm

re: #56 wrenchwench

There is no possible interpretation of that other than racism.

In Bachmann’s case I’m willing to accept an explanation that involves extreme levels of ignorance.

59 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:02:43pm

re: #53 aagcobb

I’d like to see Michelle Malkin and Eric Cantor answer questions about Bachmann’s position.

Malkin would have no problem with it. IIRC, she wrote an entire book defending the Japanese internment camps from WW2.

60 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:02:49pm

re: #56 wrenchwench

There is no possible interpretation of that other than racism.

The GOP, working hard to alienate anyone who doesn’t need SPF 75 sunscreen.

61 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:02:55pm

It amuses me that Bachmann and others talk a lot about “freedom” but it seems that Bachmann cares more about limiting the freedoms of others. Nothing I hate more than rabid nativism on immigration and it’s something that since Bush stopped being the defacto leader of the Republican Party is one that has grown more and more in that party.

62 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:03:05pm

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sure, you’re a tax payer too, but if you really loved Jesus, you’d be making a lot more and wouldn’t have been hit by a disaster anyways.”

Healthcare and hospitals are of the devil, anyway. Jesus came to heal us, it said so in the Bible! So anyone who isn’t healed is cursed, obviously!

And who are any of us to go against those cursed by god, with things like healthcare and hospitals!

Disaster aid goes against my faith so it should be banned!!

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63 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:03:50pm

re: #48 EmmmieG

Mkay. I went and looked at the breakdown.

6 Republicans voted Yea. They were from Maine, Missouri, Nevada, Indiana, and Massachusetts.

Of the 14 non-voters, 6 were Democrats or Independents. Why both Senators from Louisiana chose not to vote, I do not get. Why would Mary Landrieu chose not to vote? I would think disaster relief would be near to her heart. Hutchinson chose not to vote.

Even if the D’s and I’s had voted, they would have been a vote short.

Too bad Reine isn’t around. Maybe she has some regional insight as to why

64 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:04:04pm

re: #56 wrenchwench

There is no possible interpretation of that other than racism.

Apparently, God’s favor is inversely proportional to the amount of melanin present in one’s body.

ALL HAIL THE BLESSED ALBINO!

65 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:04:16pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

Stupidity.

That’s the basis of racism. Or a necessary precursor, or something.

66 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:05:13pm

re: #59 Lidane

Malkin would have no problem with it. IIRC, she wrote an entire book defending the Japanese internment camps from WW2.

Strange woman. What does she see when she looks in the mirror?

67 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:05:32pm

re: #54 EmmmieG

Hmmm… if that law were still in place, we wouldn’t have Bobby Jindal as Gov. of LA. He is the first Indian-American governor in the country and his parents emigrated to the US from India months before he was born. The Republican Governor from Louisiana and former Congressman and one of the youngest governors in history.

68 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:05:38pm

re: #59 Lidane

Malkin would have no problem with it. IIRC, she wrote an entire book defending the Japanese internment camps from WW2.

This was actually how I first came to hear of Michele Malkin. I mean it amazes me she thinks that even in light of the evidence about the loyalty of the Japanese Americans. By the way for my internship this summer, I had to read an article about the Lost Battalion (not the WWI but a WWII one) anyhow these guys were bailed out by the the famed 442nd Regimental Combat Team who suffered over 800 causalities in the process.

69 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:06:11pm

Ummm, is it possible for a 12-13 year old girl to come down with retardation as a result of a vaccine?

Youtube Video

70 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:06:15pm

re: #66 aagcobb

Strange woman. What does she see when she looks in the mirror?

Self loathing?

71 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:06:23pm

re: #66 aagcobb

Strange woman. What does she see when she looks in the mirror?

Nothing

Vampires don’t have a reflection nor a shadow!

72 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:06:43pm

re: #66 aagcobb

Strange woman. What does she see when she looks in the mirror?

Something she clearly hates. Malkin strikes me as the kind of woman who desperately wishes she was a blue-eyed blonde supermodel from Sweden instead of an Asian woman.

73 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:06:48pm

re: #66 aagcobb

Strange woman. What does she see when she looks in the mirror?

American Exceptionalism.

74 mr.fusion  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:07:11pm

re: #21 Killgore Trout

Yup, and they’re willing to use disaster relief funds as a hostage. I’ll give them credit. They pretty much rule the show with their new found tactics. It does work and they can get whatever they want.

I don’t think there’s anything really “new found” about the tactics….they’ve always been there, we’ve just never had a group of intransigent pricks occupying so many seats

75 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:07:11pm

re: #69 JasonA

Ummm, is it possible for a 12-13 year old girl to come down with retardation as a result of a vaccine?

[Video]

No, but it IS possible for an adult to become functionally retarded if they listen to Michele Bachmann long enough.

76 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:07:38pm

Malkin obviously has a lot of hatred in her. I’ll never forget her orchestrating the harassment of that family over SCHIP. That was when I found out how nasty people like her really were.

77 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:09:16pm

re: #66 aagcobb

Strange woman. What does she see when she looks in the mirror?

dollar signs

78 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:09:17pm

re: #67 lawhawk

Hmmm… if that law were still in place, we wouldn’t have Bobby Jindal as Gov. of LA. He is the first Indian-American governor in the country and his parents emigrated to the US from India months before he was born. The Republican Governor from Louisiana and former Congressman and one of the youngest governors in history.

I would guess Nikki Haley and Marco Rubio would be out as well.

79 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:12:47pm

re: #56 wrenchwench

There is no possible interpretation of that other than racism.

Bachmann isn’t pulling out the dog whistle there. That’s a goddamn air raid siren.

80 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:13:14pm

re: #69 JasonA

I checked the FDA site on adverse effects from the vaccination, and they note seizures and blood clots have been reported; the warning label provides as much.

The VAERS reports simply report all adverse effects following vaccination, regardless of causality or correlation:

Serious adverse event reports

Any VAERS report that indicated hospitalization, permanent disability, life-threatening illness, congenital anomaly or death is classified as serious. As with all VAERS reports, serious events may or may not have been caused by the vaccine.
Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS)

Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) has been reported after vaccination with Gardasil® . GBS is a rare neurologic disorder that causes muscle weakness. It occurs in 1-2 out of every 100,000 people in their teens. A number of infections have been associated with GBS. There has been no indication that Gardasil® increases the rate of GBS above the rate expected in the general population, whether or not they were vaccinated.
Blood Clots

There have been some reports of blood clots in females after receiving Gardasil®. These clots have occurred in the heart, lungs, and legs. Most of these people had a risk of getting blood clots, such as taking oral contraceptives (the birth control pill), smoking, obesity, and other risk factors.
Deaths

As of June 22, 2011 there have been a total 68 VAERS reports of death among those who have received Gardasil® . There were 54 reports among females, 3 were among males, and 11 were reports of unknown gender. Thirty two of the total death reports have been confirmed and 36 remain unconfirmed due to no identifiable patient information in the report such as a name and contact information to confirm the report. A death report is confirmed (verified) after a medical doctor reviews the report and any associated records. In the 32 reports confirmed, there was no unusual pattern or clustering to the deaths that would suggest that they were caused by the vaccine and some reports indicated a cause of death unrelated to vaccination.

Stroke (relating to blood clots) might be a possibility for the Bachmann-related case, but without more specifics, there’s no way to say the vaccine caused the mental defects claimed.

81 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:13:33pm

re: #78 aagcobb

I would guess Nikki Haley and Marco Rubio would be out as well.

And certainly Susana Martinez, who recently acknowledged that her grandparents came here illegally.

82 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:13:35pm

re: #50 Alouette

That law also excluded Jews (like the passengers on the St. Louis), who ultimately became victims of the Holocaust.

Many of them had their roots among bigots/confederates/conservatives on the west coast.

Anti-Alien Act from 1862 (i.e. Civil War era)

and 1913

The Magnuson Act repealed the 1862 Exclusion Act, but left the quotas/limits of the Immigration Act of 1924 intact, which was not repealed until 1965.

These morally incompetent dumbshit conservatives like Bachmann know they cannot compete on a level playing field, and need the government to enforce anti-minority laws that hold others back so they can prosper.

83 Bulworth  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:14:46pm

What? Surely one of the “moderates” in the GOP Senate voted not to obstruct this….Right?

84 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:14:57pm

re: #80 lawhawk

I checked the FDA site on adverse effects from the vaccination, and they note seizures and blood clots have been reported; the warning label provides as much.

The VAERS reports simply report all adverse effects following vaccination, regardless of causality or correlation:

Stroke (relating to blood clots) might be a possibility for the Bachmann-related case, but without more specifics, there’s no way to say the vaccine caused the mental defects claimed.

My only remaining question is when exactly was Michele Bachmann vaccinated…?

85 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:15:19pm

HPV Vaccine = bad
Divorcing your wife because of Alzheimer’s = Good

Robertson’s Marital Advice: Divorce Your Wife With Alzheimer

86 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:15:26pm

re: #78 aagcobb

Yup, those two would be out. So too would Michelle Malkin (referenced above).

87 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:15:37pm

re: #83 Bulworth

What? Surely one of the “moderates” in the GOP Senate voted not to obstruct this…Right?

What’s a moderate Republican?

88 Bulworth  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:17:12pm

re: #21 Killgore Trout

Yup, and they’re willing to use disaster relief funds as a hostage. I’ll give them credit. They pretty much rule the show with their new found tactics. It does work and they can get whatever they want.

They must assume they won’t pay any kind of political price for this. And they’re probably right.

More things I don’t understand….

89 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:17:16pm

re: #85 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

HPV Vaccine = bad
Divorcing your wife because of Alzheimer’s = Good

Robertson’s Marital Advice: Divorce Your Wife With Alzheimer

From the Newt Gingrich book of how to treat a lady.

90 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:17:46pm

re: #87 Lidane

What’s a moderate Republican?

the millions of voters that got burned by the TP….it was all about jobs, before it was all about gays…question is, what will they do about it now?

91 Interesting Times  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:18:02pm

re: #87 Lidane

What’s a moderate Republican?

Not sure, though I do believe they have something in common with this.

92 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:19:47pm

re: #67 lawhawk

Hmmm… if that law were still in place, we wouldn’t have Bobby Jindal as Gov. of LA. He is the first Indian-American governor in the country and his parents emigrated to the US from India months before he was born. The Republican Governor from Louisiana and former Congressman and one of the youngest governors in history.

And Crazy Catholic Creationist Conservative, IIRC.

93 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:20:23pm

re: #90 albusteve

the millions of voters that got burned by the TP…it was all about jobs, before it was all about gays…question is, what will they do about it now?

Anyone who voted for the TP candidates has no business calling themselves a moderate. Gullible, maybe. Moderate? Definitely not.

94 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:21:28pm

re: #83 Bulworth

What? Surely one of the “moderates” in the GOP Senate voted not to obstruct this…Right?

littlegreenfootballs.com

6 Republicans voted Yea. They were from Maine, Missouri, Nevada, Indiana, and Massachusetts.

((hat tip to Emmie G)

95 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:21:57pm

re: #81 wrenchwench

And certainly Susana Martinez, who recently acknowledged that her grandparents came here illegally.

The whole idea is absurd. “Legal” vs “illegal” immigration, in a country where a war was fought so people could legally force others into being “the property”. rotfl

96 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:22:24pm

re: #85 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

HPV Vaccine = bad
Divorcing your wife because of Alzheimer’s = Good

Robertson’s Marital Advice: Divorce Your Wife With Alzheimer

Robertson’s advice was to encourage the husband to divorce his wife with Alzheimer’s because she was, for all intents and purposes, already dead.

IIRC, he was all over Terry Shiavo’s husband for dating/living with another woman. What a fucking hypocrite.

97 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:23:23pm

re: #66 aagcobb

Strange woman. What does she see when she looks in the mirror?

She doesn’t see a Japanese American.

98 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:23:35pm

Among the damaged areas in NY was part of the historic Erie Canal in the Capital District. This includes flood control facilities, locks, and it has pretty much shut down the Canal operations for the rest of the year.

The canal is indefinitely closed between Waterford and Utica. Heavy rains from tropical storms Irene and Lee caused flooding at five locks, from Vischer Ferry in Clifton Park to just west of Amsterdam, when the rising waters ripped open dams and reshaped the shoreline.

Touring damaged Lock 11 in Amsterdam on Monday, Canal Corp. Director Brian U. Stratton and his deputy, John Callaghan, showed U.S. Sen. Chuck Schumer where floodwaters knocked out vertical steel support beams in the middle of the dam — which are designed to pop out like ski bindings, preserving the larger structure. In many places, water jumped the river’s banks and “scoured” new channels around the concrete locks.

“They’re now in the middle of the river,” said Callaghan, noting waters haven’t receded at locks 9 and 10, just east.

“We have to move the locks back?” Schumer asked.

“No,” Callaghan replied. “We’ve got to move the river back.”

And until they can accomplish that, Canal Corp. officials say they won’t even be able to fully assess the damage to the system. Work crews have put in fresh fill where they can but are waiting for water levels to finally recede before inspecting dams contorted or blown by rushing water and debris. Lee’s rains fell Thursday, but it could be at least Tuesday before levels drop low enough, Stratton explained.

99 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:24:07pm

Scott Brown’s sphincter just clenched a little.

Elizabeth Warren Officially Launching Senate Campaign Against Scott Brown

100 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:24:34pm

re: #66 aagcobb

Strange woman. What does she see when she looks in the mirror?

The angel she thinks G-d will eventually promote her to be.

101 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:24:38pm

re: #91 publicityStunted

Not sure, though I do believe they have something in common with this.

Too big to fly, dodo ugly so dodo must die,
Doggo with fear on its side, can’t change, can’t change the tide.
Dog baiter, agitator, asking questions, says he wants to know why.
Ain’t no reason that money can’t buy.
Mink he pretty so mink he must die, must die, must die.

;)

102 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:24:52pm

re: #71 sattv4u2

Nothing

Vampires don’t have a reflection nor a shadow!

You win!

103 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:26:20pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

I’ve read about that incident. A truly shameful incident and a reason I am not a huge FDR fan.

By and large, I admire him, but…yeah.

104 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:27:13pm

re: #38 JasonA

Speaking of which…

Michele Bachmann: U.S. Immigration ‘Worked Very, Very Well’ Under The Asian Exclusion Act

BTW, it’s worth noting that the picture of George Takei as Sulu that ThinkProgress uses here works on a whole other level. Takei is a survivor of the Japanese internment camps.

105 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:28:03pm

re: #104 Lidane

BTW, it’s worth noting that the picture of George Takei as Sulu that ThinkProgress uses here works on a whole other level. Takei is a survivor of the Japanese internment camps.

Because he is teh ghey?

106 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:28:30pm

re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist

By and large, I admire him, but…yeah.

I do too but it’s a strike against him in my book.

107 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:28:57pm

re: #93 Lidane

Anyone who voted for the TP candidates has no business calling themselves a moderate. Gullible, maybe. Moderate? Definitely not.

Conservatives are just as confused as always. They got a little 20-year window where they could regroup as the god/guns/money party, but now they’ve allowed themselves to be taken over by anti-science and overtly confederate views.

Oh well, good luck to them with that. They will need it.

108 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:29:30pm

re: Perry, Texas, and disaster declarations.

Imagine the outcry from Perry and other GOPers if the President didn’t sign a disaster declaration for the Texas areas affected by the wildfires.

109 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:30:08pm

re: #54 EmmmieG

Any move to deny Americans our kung pao chicken is…can’t say communist, can I…how about un-American?

China sent us a great cuisine. We put a lot of sugar in it, then invented chop suey.

China has been watching us curiously ever since to see what else we might do.

110 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:30:45pm

re: #109 SanFranciscoZionist

China sent us a great cuisine. We put a lot of sugar in it, then invented chop suey.

China has been watching us curiously ever since to see what else we might do.

We made Fortune Cookies!

111 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:31:02pm

re: #110 ggt

We made Fortune Cookies!

We should make them with Chocolate!

112 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:32:13pm

re: #66 aagcobb

Strange woman. What does she see when she looks in the mirror?

A conservative babe.

Seriously, though, Malkin’s family is Filipino. I don’t know if this actively contributed to her feeling that Internment was a good idea, but it can’t have hurt it.

113 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:32:19pm

re: #108 lawhawk

re: Perry, Texas, and disaster declarations.

Imagine the outcry from Perry and other GOPers if the President didn’t sign a disaster declaration for the Texas areas affected by the wildfires.

FEMA camps! New World Order!! Creeping Sharia! Soooculizm!!!1!1

114 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:32:44pm

re: #104 Lidane

BTW, it’s worth noting that the picture of George Takei as Sulu that ThinkProgress uses here works on a whole other level. Takei is a survivor of the Japanese internment camps.

Mr. Takei also came out in recent years, too. I hope he’s alright with being used as a triple threat against an opponent. As a public figure who is forthright about his various backgrounds, I’m sure he’s grown accustomed to it.

115 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:33:09pm

re: #105 ggt

Because he is teh ghey?

Nope. Because he not only would have been excluded by Bachmann based on his race, but he also ended up in the WW2 internment camps.

116 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:33:31pm

re: #105 ggt

Because he is teh ghey?

That’s a whole other other level….

117 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:33:47pm

re: #85 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

HPV Vaccine = bad
Divorcing your wife because of Alzheimer’s = Good

Robertson’s Marital Advice: Divorce Your Wife With Alzheimer

Huh?

118 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:34:41pm

re: #117 SanFranciscoZionist

Huh?

Apparently compassion is now some sort of radical liberal plot.

119 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:34:59pm

re: #114 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Mr. Takei also came out in recent years, too. I hope he’s alright with being used as a triple threat against an opponent. As a public figure who is forthright about his various backgrounds, I’m sure he’s grown accustomed to it.

and, IIRC, is married to another man!

120 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:35:06pm

re: #112 SanFranciscoZionist

A conservative babe.

Seriously, though, Malkin’s family is Filipino. I don’t know if this actively contributed to her feeling that Internment was a good idea, but it can’t have hurt it.

She denies it, and does not identify as “Asian-American” tmk (the term is fraught with problems.) But goes without saying that Japan was not kind to the Philippines in WW2.

121 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:35:29pm

re: #119 ggt

and, IIRC, is married to another man!

Yes, check that link.

122 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:35:46pm

re: #96 ggt

IIRC, he was all over Terry Shiavo’s husband for dating/living with another woman. What a fucking hypocrite.

Was he? Doesn’t surprise me.

Robertson is a piece of work.

123 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:36:42pm

re: #121 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yes, check that link.

There was some big drama by William Shatner because he wasn’t invited. Because,you know, everything is about him. I remember now.

124 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:37:15pm

re: #120 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

She denies it, and does not identify as “Asian-American” tmk (the term is fraught with problems.) But goes without saying that Japan was not kind to the Philippines in WW2.

So the GOP rolling out the “Greater Americas Co-Propersity Sphere” would be reaching a new height in historical ignorance?

125 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:37:21pm

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

Was he? Doesn’t surprise me.

Robertson is a piece of work.

Robertson and Falwell should have both been persona non grata after they said we deserved 9/11 because of feminism and teh ghey.

I don’t understand why anyone still listens to that lunatic.

126 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:37:21pm

re: #115 Lidane

Nope. Because he not only would have been excluded by Bachmann based on his race, but he also ended up in the WW2 internment camps.

And in Marcus’ reparative therapy factory, as yet another guy to hit on.

127 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:37:43pm

In less than an hour, the Senate will try to bring the disaster relief package to the floor for a vote.

The supplemental monies include $1.3 billion for the Army Corps of Engineers, which helps repair water-damaged infrastructure; $266 million in fiscal year 2012 to the Department of Agriculture; $135 million in fiscal year 2012 for the Economic Development Administration; and $100 million in community block grants to help rebuild neighborhoods damaged by natural disasters.

A measure that passed this summer to raise the debt ceiling included federal spending caps; that deal allowed for those caps to grow to accommodate emergency disaster aid.

On Monday evening, a procedural vote on the Burma bill failed in the Senate with six Democrats missing. Some members were taken aback that the funding request was bigger than the previous White House request, or because they were not up to speed on the details. The $4.6 billion that Senate Democrats seek for the 2012 fiscal year is above the $1.8 billion President Obama requested in February.

128 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:40:13pm

re: #124 oaktree

So the GOP rolling out the “Greater Americas Co-Propersity Sphere” would be reaching a new height in historical ignorance?

Hm, hard to say. You’d have to don scuba equipement to scrape the bottom of the conservative barrel, these days.

129 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:41:36pm

Takei is great. He called the Arkansas school board member who said gay kids should kill themselves a douchebag. Never been a Trekkie but hard not to like the guy and he was hilarious at Shatner’s roast.

130 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:41:44pm

Robertson and the divorcing of the woman with Altzheimers …

So does her care depend on any benefits she may have thru her husband?

Where is the compassion, Pat?

In Sickness and in Health?

Where is the commitment to Christian marriage vows, Pat?

131 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:42:51pm

re: #130 ggt

Robertson and the divorcing of the woman with Altzheimers …

So does her care depend on any benefits she may have thru her husband?

Where is the compassion, Pat?

In Sickness and in Health?

Where is the commitment to Christian marriage vows, Pat?

he’s a fraud…pretty simple

132 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:43:21pm

re: #130 ggt

Robertson and the divorcing of the woman with Altzheimers …

So does her care depend on any benefits she may have thru her husband?

Where is the compassion, Pat?

In Sickness and in Health?

Where is the commitment to Christian marriage vows, Pat?

Would he say the same thing if the sick person were a man and the one wanting a divorce were a woman?

He’d probably respond that her place was by her husband’s bedside.

*spit*

133 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:43:46pm

re: #130 ggt

Robertson and the divorcing of the woman with Altzheimers …

So does her care depend on any benefits she may have thru her husband?

Where is the compassion, Pat?

In Sickness and in Health?

Where is the commitment to Christian marriage vows, Pat?

Aside from the crassness of divorcing a person once they weren’t sexually available, who would be in charge of her legal and medical affairs?

I think I would stop talking to my father if my mother developed Alzheimer’s and he did this. They’ve only been together since they were fourteen, though, so it’s a passing relationship.

134 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:45:01pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Takei rules.

Youtube Video

135 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:45:38pm

re: #133 EmmmieG

Aside from the crassness of divorcing a person once they weren’t sexually available, who would be in charge of her legal and medical affairs?

I think I would stop talking to my father if my mother developed Alzheimer’s and he did this. They’ve only been together since they were fourteen, though, so it’s a passing relationship.

If were a horrible marriage and the sick person had been an abuser … I can see situations where it might be excusable, but in general —why would you want to divorce your spouse? I wouldn’t.

then again, I take the sacraments seriously.

136 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:45:49pm

re: #85 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

HPV Vaccine = bad
Divorcing your wife because of Alzheimer’s = Good

Robertson’s Marital Advice: Divorce Your Wife With Alzheimer

Pat’s obviously confused. A woman disabled or incapacitated to where she can’t say no is the con male ideal. Totally dependent; can’t argue, can’t say anything at all, completely vulnerable.

Perfect opportunity to play chivalrous savior…I’m surprised his counsel is to pass this up.

137 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:46:13pm

re: #133 EmmmieG

If I had severe Alzheimer’s, I’d prefer to die with dignity, but i’m fairly sure that’s illegal, which sucks.

138 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:46:46pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Takei is great. He called the Arkansas school board member who said gay kids should kill themselves a douchebag. Never been a Trekkie but hard not to like the guy and he was hilarious at Shatner’s roast.

Takei is awesome. I remember reading an interview with John Cho right after he got cast as Sulu in the recent Star Trek reboot and he said that Takei basically sat him down at lunch and told him to just have fun and enjoy the ride.

139 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:46:54pm

re: #137 Obdicut

If I had severe Alzheimer’s, I’d prefer to die with dignity, but i’m fairly sure that’s illegal, which sucks.

The problem is that once you have Alzheimer’s, you can’t consent, which is a vital part of any assisted suicide law.

140 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:47:12pm

re: #135 ggt

but in general —why would you want to divorce your spouse?

Depends on why you married them in the first place.

141 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:47:35pm

Just realized that with the windows open, the entire block gets to listen to my son practice trumpet.

I’d rather not find the house surrounded with pitchforks and angry peasants.

Going to close the windows.

142 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:48:22pm

re: #141 EmmmieG

Just realized that with the windows open, the entire block gets to listen to my son practice trumpet.

I’d rather not find the house surrounded with pitchforks and angry peasants.

Going to close the windows.

Haha. That brings back memories. My mom made sure the windows were closed when I was learning how to play the clarinet. XD

143 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:48:48pm

re: #139 EmmmieG

The problem is that once you have Alzheimer’s, you can’t consent, which is a vital part of any assisted suicide law.

Living Wills are so important. This could be written in.

144 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:49:49pm

re: #141 EmmmieG

Just realized that with the windows open, the entire block gets to listen to my son practice trumpet.

I’d rather not find the house surrounded with pitchforks and angry peasants.

Going to close the windows.

And put out the sign - “Please be thankful he is not learning the bagpipes.”

145 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:49:53pm

re: #139 EmmmieG

The problem is that once you have Alzheimer’s, you can’t consent, which is a vital part of any assisted suicide law.

Well, I’ve got one of those mammoth living wills filled out for my wife for cases like this. In my opinion, once I have severe Alzheimer’s I will already be dead. To let me shamble around slowly becoming more and more decrepit seems massively cruel to me and my family.

I just had to go through both my brandfather and my grandmother succumbing that way. Although my grandfather retained his sweetness of character to the end, my poor grandmother lived her last years in terror, afraid every day of things she couldn’t understand. It really hurt to see her like that.

We did what we could for her, and we found an awesome caregiver for her, but there’s only so much you can do.

I don’t want to put my wife through that.

146 darthstar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:51:02pm

re: #136 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Pat’s obviously confused. A woman disabled or incapacitated to where she can’t say no is the con male ideal. Totally dependent; can’t argue, can’t say anything at all, completely vulnerable.

Perfect opportunity to play chivalrous savior…I’m surprised his counsel is to pass this up.

Her husband already has another woman. Alzheimer’s is just an excuse to leave her without feeling guilty…then again, these are 700 Club fans, so chances are they’re morally superior already, so there shouldn’t be any guilt at all.

147 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:51:55pm

re: #145 Obdicut

Well, I’ve got one of those mammoth living wills filled out for my wife for cases like this. In my opinion, once I have severe Alzheimer’s I will already be dead. To let me shamble around slowly becoming more and more decrepit seems massively cruel to me and my family.

I just had to go through both my brandfather and my grandmother succumbing that way. Although my grandfather retained his sweetness of character to the end, my poor grandmother lived her last years in terror, afraid every day of things she couldn’t understand. It really hurt to see her like that.

We did what we could for her, and we found an awesome caregiver for her, but there’s only so much you can do.

I don’t want to put my wife through that.

Luckily treatment is getting so much better. Anti-psychotics help with the fear factor. A friend of mine’s mom is so happy and serene when on her meds. Has a wonderful caregiver.

148 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:52:12pm

re: #143 ggt

Living Wills are so important. This could be written in.

I’m seriously beyond grateful that my family pushed for me to get a living will, a durable general power of attorney, and a medical power of attorney for my mom last year, and that her lawyer made sure that we got them all drawn up and signed.

She’s been having a lot of health problems and memory issues lately. If I had to get any of those documents now, I don’t know that she’d be able to freely consent to them. Last year, she was able to just fine.

149 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:54:10pm

re: #134 Obdicut

Takei rules.

[Video]

I’ve never seen that. Awesome.

150 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:54:11pm

re: #148 Lidane

I’m seriously beyond grateful that my family pushed for me to get a living will a durable general power of attorney, and a medical power of attorney for my mom last year, and that her lawyer made sure that we got them all drawn up and signed.

She’s been having a lot of health problems and memory issues lately. If I had to get any of those documents now, I don’t know that she’d be able to freely consent to them. Last year, she was able to just fine.

My parents made a Living Trust which includes their wills, living wills and all the flavors of POA’s that might be needed. OMG, it has been so helpful.

151 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:54:13pm

re: #114 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Mr. Takei also came out in recent years, too. I hope he’s alright with being used as a triple threat against an opponent. As a public figure who is forthright about his various backgrounds, I’m sure he’s grown accustomed to it.

After this, I’m pretty sure he’s comfortable with whatever comes his way:

Youtube Video

152 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:54:57pm

re: #118 oaktree

Apparently compassion is now some sort of radical liberal plot.

So, apparently, is taking your wedding vows seriously.

153 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:56:46pm

re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist

So, apparently, is taking your wedding vows seriously.

I have gotten the impression that for some segments of our society those vows are only heavily enforced on one gender.

154 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:56:51pm

33 beats 53… what a country!

155 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:57:47pm

re: #134 Obdicut

Takei rules.

[Video]

I just put that on my facebook!

You are right, Takei rules!

156 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:57:52pm

Of course it would be ironic and as cruel as it sounds hilarious if Pat got Alhemizers and his wife decided to leave him. Instant Karma’s gonna get you and we all shine on.

157 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:58:29pm

re: #151 SanFranciscoZionist

Takei has been with his husband for twenty-two years. Married for only one.

Youtube Video

158 sagehen  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 12:59:04pm

re: #110 ggt

We made Fortune Cookies!

Did you ever get one that read “Help! I’m a prisoner in a Chinese bakery!!”?

159 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:00:19pm

Years ago in an office I worked in, the question was raised (not by me): If your husband was paralyzed, would you cheat on him, or leave him?

The discussers were all unmarried. The married people in the office were quietly giving each other that look. “They don’t get it, do they?”

160 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:00:48pm

re: #158 sagehen

Did you ever get one that read “Help! I’m a prisoner in a Chinese bakery!!”?

My daughter has made doom cookies before. She might have had subtle encouragement in this.

161 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:02:25pm

re: #159 EmmmieG

No amount religious affiliation is going to make a decent, moral person out of someone who is innately immoral and devoid of faith: they will always find some sort of loophole in the scriptures to justify their actions.

162 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:03:21pm

re: #154 jamesfirecat

Tyranny of the minority majority. /James Madison

163 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:03:23pm

re: #160 EmmmieG

My daughter has made doom cookies before. She might have had subtle encouragement in this.

Bittersweets

37 brutal kissoffs including “U LEFT SEATUP”, “BACK 2 KENNEL”, “I GOT SOBER”, “CELIB8 THX2U”, “CALL A 900#” and “RUSSIAN BRIDE”.

164 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:04:33pm

re: #162 lawhawk

Tyranny of the minority majority. /James Madison

One of the many balancing acts we perform ongoing in this country. Sometimes we get it right and sometimes we don’t.

The point, IMHO, is that we keep at it.

165 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:05:16pm

re: #161 ralphieboy

No amount religious affiliation is going to make a decent, moral person out of someone who is innately immoral and devoid of faith: they will always find some sort of loophole in the scriptures to justify their actions.

Well, yes, although I believe the marrieds and the unmarrieds were all of varying religions, color, and backgrounds in that office.

166 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:07:15pm

re: #165 EmmmieG

Well, yes, although I believe the marrieds and the unmarrieds were all of varying religions, color, and backgrounds in that office.

I was referring more to Pat Robertson, Newt Gingrich and those who have no trouble finding some religious justification for abandoning the vows they made before man and God.

167 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:07:58pm

re: #166 ralphieboy

I was referring more to Pat Robertson, Newt Gingrich and those who have no trouble finding some religious justification for abandoning the vows they made before man and God.

Oh, yes. Newt has an old habit of leaving wives if they get sick.

Calista had better hope she stays healthy.

168 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:08:36pm

re: #165 EmmmieG

Well, yes, although I believe the marrieds and the unmarrieds were all of varying religions, color, and backgrounds in that office.

I don’t think any cultural or ethnic group has made a valid claim on being totally moral and decent. They all have their share of willful idiots and assholes as well as a share of good and compassionate members. Seems to be something with being human I guess.

169 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:08:45pm

I just sent a notice to Senator Wyden asking why he did not vote. I expect an answer in the next ice age.

170 BongCrodny  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:09:18pm

re: #161 ralphieboy

No amount religious affiliation is going to make a decent, moral person out of someone who is innately immoral and devoid of faith: they will always find some sort of loophole in the scriptures to justify their actions.

Matthew 19:21:

Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me. make a shitload of money.”

171 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:11:03pm

Another VERY IMPORTANT document is the Do Not Resuscitate (DNR). Put a copy on your fridge, your bedroom door, above your bed, in your wallet, glove box (have it tatooed on your forhead) EVERYWHERE. If the EMS teams are not completely sure of your intentions, they will do everything to bring you back and keep you alive.

Same when you get to the hospital. The Triage Nurses didn’t ask my dad, or the Paramedics. I had to present it to the Doctor myself.

Make sure your loved ones have a copy and make sure they are vigilent about YOUR WISHES.

My dad would have killed me, sued the hospital and probably have waged holy war if he died and they brought him back. He was miserable with his health problems and was at peace with G-d. He made his intentions very clear.

172 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:13:45pm

re: #171 ggt

A number of students in my wife’s med class were under the impression that a doctor could violate or ‘interpret’ a DNR at will.

To me, it’s one of the largest ethical breaches a doctor could ever perform, as much as I’d understand the motive.

173 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:15:45pm

re: #172 Obdicut

A number of students in my wife’s med class were under the impression that a doctor could violate or ‘interpret’ a DNR at will.

To me, it’s one of the largest ethical breaches a doctor could ever perform, as much as I’d understand the motive.

It probably depends on the State. When my BIL was DOA, his wife asked the EMS team to do all they could (she is a kind & naive person) and that was enough for them to violate the DNR.

He remaining months were pure torture. They couldn’t do in GITMO what they did to him to keep him alive.

174 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:20:28pm

Pennsylvania GOPers Propose Splitting State’s Electoral Votes

Pennsylvania Republicans, who won the governorship and full majority control of the legislature in 2010, are now setting their sites on a major change — to the state’s Electoral College votes, which have been regularly won statewide by Democrats for 20 years, in the winner-take-all system used by nearly all the states.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that Gov. Tom Corbett and state Senate Majority Leader Dominic Pileggi are proposing that the state divide up its Electoral College votes according to which candidates carried each Congressional district, plus two votes for the statewide winner. The system is used by Maine — which, despite the system, has never actually split its four electoral votes — and by Nebraska, which gave one of its five votes to Barack Obama in 2008.

Pennsylvania, however, will have 20 electoral votes in the 2012 election. What’s more, the measure would give even greater meaning to the state’s redistricting for the House of Representatives, giving it a powerful effect over the presidency in addition to the House.

Pennsylvania has voted Democratic in every presidential election since 1992, and voted for Barack Obama by 55%-44% in 2008. Indeed, over the past 50 years it has only voted Republican in presidential landslides for the GOP: 1972, 1980, 1984, and finally 1988. While the results have sometimes been narrow for the Dems, it is a state that can be expected to vote Democratic for president in the context of a close national campaign, such as its votes for Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004.

175 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:21:19pm

OT:
Zawahiri has crawled out from under his rock (or crash pad in Pakistan), to claim that the Arab Spring was a rebuke of the US, even as the Arabs who rose up against those regimes haven’t exactly embraced al Qaeda’s jihadist bent and move towards extremism.

Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri has apparently released a new message to coincide with the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks, in which he praises the Arab Spring as a “devastating blow” to the United States.

The hour-long video, posted Monday on websites run by supporters of the terror network, includes an audio broadcast purportedly from al-Zawahiri and a video message from Osama bin Laden, recorded before his death in May.”

Al-Zawahiri’s speech lauds the Arab Spring as having “liberated thousands of the members of the Islamic movement’s prisoners, who were imprisoned by direct orders from America.”

176 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:21:20pm

re: #174 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Pennsylvania GOPers Propose Splitting State’s Electoral Votes

Sounds like desperation to me.

177 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:21:27pm

re: #174 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anything to win.

178 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:22:16pm

re: #177 Obdicut

Anything to win.

Souls are at stake!

/

179 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:22:19pm

re: #177 Obdicut

Anything to win.

Isn’t that Mitt Romney’s campaign slogan? :D.

180 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:23:04pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

Isn’t that Mitt Romney’s campaign slogan? :D.

Yeah. He picked it up off of McCain’s dead campaign fire sale.

181 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:23:12pm

re: #175 lawhawk

With spin skills like that he could get a show on CNN.

182 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:23:55pm

re: #177 Obdicut

Anything to win.

And its shit like that which is why I won’t Republican at all.

183 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:24:19pm

re: #182 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And its shit like that which is why I won’t Republican at all.

Don’t edit that! Leave the typo. It’s better that way.

184 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:24:30pm

re: #162 lawhawk

Tyranny of the minority majority. /James Madison

Speaking of which, a GOP columnist for the Louisville Courier Journal openly called for disenfranchising the poor, rather than merely thinking of new ways to make it more difficult for them to vote.

185 rwdflynavy  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:25:16pm

re: #175 lawhawk

The dude has been through 5 or 6 #2 leaders of AQ in the last couple months, cut him some slack, he’s lonely
///

186 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:25:34pm

Ferrets, Kudus and Gorillas, OMG the cuteness!

furballs, big ears and big eyes!

The very last picture is the best. Mama asleep and baby awake …

187 bratwurst  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:25:53pm

re: #184 aagcobb

Speaking of which, a GOP columnist for the Louisville Courier Journal openly called for disenfranchising the poor, rather than merely thinking of new ways to make it more difficult for them to vote.

Chairman Limbaugh has been beating this ridiculous drum for some time.

188 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:26:10pm

re: #186 ggt

Yes, Takei is pretty adorable.

Heh.

189 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:26:25pm

re: #184 aagcobb

Speaking of which, a GOP columnist for the Louisville Courier Journal openly called for disenfranchising the poor, rather than merely thinking of new ways to make it more difficult for them to vote.

It’s a trend for many conservatives. Let’s disenfranchise people who don’t vote the way we like. Coulter a few years ago called for disenfranchising college students 18-21 and then there was the columnist not that long ago who compared giving the poor the right to vote to giving a burglar tools but remember people it’s the liberals who are the elitists not the conservatives who want to tell the poor and young they can’t vote because they vote Democratic as a bloc.

190 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:27:07pm

re: #189 HappyWarrior

It’s a trend for many conservatives. Let’s disenfranchise people who don’t vote the way we like. Coulter a few years ago called for disenfranchising college students 18-21 and then there was the columnist not that long ago who compared giving the poor the right to vote to giving a burglar tools but remember people it’s the liberals who are the elitists not the conservatives who want to tell the poor and young they can’t vote because they vote Democratic as a bloc.

forced class-warfare —I swear they are trying to strategize it.

191 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:28:49pm

re: #184 aagcobb

Speaking of which, a GOP columnist for the Louisville Courier Journal openly called for disenfranchising the poor, rather than merely thinking of new ways to make it more difficult for them to vote.

The Heritage Foundation issued a report on the ungrateful American poor that’s making the rounds on wingnuts sites….
Understanding Poverty in the United States: Surprising Facts About America’s Poor

80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. In 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
92 percent of poor households have a microwave.
Nearly three-fourths have a car or truck, and 31 percent have two or more cars or trucks.
Nearly two-thirds have cable or satellite TV.
Two-thirds have at least one DVD player, and 70 percent have a VCR.
Half have a personal computer, and one in seven have two or more computers.
More than half of poor families with children have a video game system, such as an Xbox or PlayStation.
43 percent have Internet access.
One-third have a wide-screen plasma or LCD TV.
One-fourth have a digital video recorder system, such as a TiVo.

192 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:29:35pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Sounds like desperation to me.

And something that actually would erode Pennsylvania’s future importance in elections. Once it becomes clear the state will start splitting electoral votes 12-8 or 11-9 every election regardless of money and time spent there the state becomes roughly the same value as carrying Rhode Island.

And since gerrymandering tends to build “safe” districts for both parties the redistricting efforts will push towards this effect as well.

193 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:29:39pm

re: #190 ggt

forced class-warfare —I swear they are trying to strategize it.

Oh that’s another one. It’s class warfare for liberals and democrats to suggest that the rich pay the same level of taxes they did in the Clinton years but it’s okay for the fuckbags on Fox News to compare the poor to animals.

194 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:30:05pm

re: #188 Obdicut

Who you calling adorable:

Youtube Video

195 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:30:16pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

The Heritage Foundation issued a report on the ungrateful American poor that’s making the rounds on wingnuts sites…
Understanding Poverty in the United States: Surprising Facts About America’s Poor

Imagine a Refridgerator —not an icebox!

/

196 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:32:31pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

Try finding a TV that isn’t wide-screen these days. Check every Best Buy, every Target, every Costco. I’ll wait…

197 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:33:15pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

The Heritage Foundation issued a report on the ungrateful American poor that’s making the rounds on wingnuts sites…
Understanding Poverty in the United States: Surprising Facts About America’s Poor

That type of thing pisses me off. It’s as if it’s not bad enough that people are poor, these Heritage assholes want to take away what few creature comforts they do have.

No amount of misery inflicted on the Other ever satisfies them.

198 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:33:21pm

re: #194 lawhawk

Who you calling adorable:

[Video]

Wasn’t Jimmy the one that got drunk and sang “I’ll take you home Kathleen” on the intercom system.

Or some such song?

199 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:33:34pm

re: #195 ggt

Imagine a Refridgerator —not an icebox!

/

Isn’t poor by their definition anyone making under $250,000/year?
//

200 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:34:00pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

The Heritage Foundation issued a report on the ungrateful American poor that’s making the rounds on wingnuts sites…
Understanding Poverty in the United States: Surprising Facts About America’s Poor

HOW DARE SOMEONE COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT BEING TO FIND ADEQUATE HOUSING OR HEALTHCARE WHEN THEY HAVE AN INTERNET CONNECTION!!!

201 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:34:25pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

More than half of poor families with children have a video game system, such as an Xbox or PlayStation.

And what business do they have owning systems that are more than ten years old, huh?

202 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:35:08pm

re: #201 JasonA

And what business do they have owning systems that are more than ten years old, huh?

All our TV’s are at least 12 years old.

I have a new macbook tho.

Priorities!

203 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:35:36pm

The AC one is funny to me since it shows the HF is totally oblvious to the fact that the standard of living has changed in 40 years. And of course AC units have gotten cheaper but let’s bullshit with statistiics because that’s what we do best at teh Heritage Foundation.

204 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:36:21pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

The Heritage Foundation issued a report on the ungrateful American poor that’s making the rounds on wingnuts sites…
Understanding Poverty in the United States: Surprising Facts About America’s Poor

Fuck anyone who treats air conditioning as a luxury that only the rich deserve. Let those assholes live in the 100+ degree heat that Texas has endured these past three months and see how much of a luxury AC is.

205 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:37:02pm

re: #203 HappyWarrior

The AC one is funny to me since it shows the HF is totally oblvious to the fact that the standard of living has changed in 40 years. And of course AC units have gotten cheaper but let’s bullshit with statistiics because that’s what we do best at teh Heritage Foundation.

Are there any buildings built in the last 30 years that don’t have central air?

Having it doesn’t mean it’s used. I know plenty of people who can’t afford to run their air. The sleep in the basement.

206 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:37:06pm

re: #202 ggt

All our TV’s are at least 12 years old.

I have a new macbook tho.

Priorities!

I got a year old HD TV for $100 when our neighbors decided to buy a new 70” model instead.

Thats the only TV we have.

207 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:38:22pm

re: #206 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I got a year old HD TV for $100 when our neighbors decided to buy a new 70” model instead.

Thats the only TV we have.

The men seem to need a TV on every floor. I don’t get it. I don’t watch it.

I have noticed we seem to be the only people in the world without flat screens tho.

According to them it is quite embarrassing.

208 jaunte  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:38:39pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

La Rochefoucauld update:

We Republicans have all sufficient strength
to endure the misfortunes of others.

209 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:41:11pm

re: #205 ggt

Are there any buildings built in the last 30 years that don’t have central air?

Having it doesn’t mean it’s used. I know plenty of people who can’t afford to run their air. The sleep in the basement.

I have no idea honest. that just stood out to me.

210 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:42:36pm

Only rich white conservatives/bigots are supposed to have HD TVs.

Poor HD TVs looted in LA and London riots by nonwhite criminals (redundant phrase), boohoo for them!

211 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:43:02pm

GOP complaining that Obama is trying to reduce too much debt

“By asking the Joint Select Committee to increase the $1.5 trillion target to cover the full cost of his plan, the president is essentially tasking a committee designed to reduce the deficit to pay for yet another round of stimulus,” the committee’s co-chair, Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-TX) said in a statement last week. “This proposal would make the already-arduous challenge of finding bipartisan agreement on deficit reduction nearly impossible.”

In an ironic twist, this has Washington’s career fiscal hawks, who have found common cause with the GOP for the past year, calling nonsense.

“I can tell you the more comprehensive we made it, the easier our job got, the easier it was to get to majority…rather than trying to do little teeny pieces of it,” said Erskine Bowles, co-chair of the White House’s commission on fiscal responsibility, at an event hosted by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB).

“The tougher we made our proposal, the more people came aboard, I think the same thing can happen with this Super Commission [sic],” said Bowles’ co-chair Alan Simpson.
Talking Points Memo on Facebook

The Simpson-Bowles plan was never officially reported to Congress, but did garner support of 11 of the commission’s 18 members. This counter-evidence illustrates a political bind Republicans have created for themselves. They don’t want to raise taxes and they don’t want to create space in the budget for Obama’s jobs plan, so they have to artificially constrain the Super Committee’s goals to avoid both. This isn’t necessary, and, according to Bowles and Simpson, it’s actually counterproductive.

212 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:44:21pm

My back is aching again from yesterday’s Prolotherapy treatment. I’m going to lay down again for a while.

Have a great afternoon all!

213 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:44:44pm

re: #211 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

GOP complaining that Obama is trying to reduce too much debt

As I’ve said, Obama can’t win with these dorks.

214 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:44:47pm

re: #209 HappyWarrior

I have no idea honest. that just stood out to me.

Too expensive to run our AC. We just keep the windows open, keep a fan on, and stick to our underwear around the house.

What?

215 scogind  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:44:55pm

Republicans blocked it with the help with almost half of the Dems! Hell, that’s as bipartisan as its going to get.

216 BongCrodny  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:45:28pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

The Heritage Foundation issued a report on the ungrateful American poor that’s making the rounds on wingnuts sites…
Understanding Poverty in the United States: Surprising Facts About America’s Poor

Wonder how many of them managed to buy all that stuff *while* poor.

If I had to make an uneducated guess, it would be that most of those folks got that stuff *before* they were poor.

Is it possible these days to find a job without a computer or transportation? The career center in my town is five miles from my apartment. If I didn’t have access to public transportation, it would be awfully difficult to get out there, and I can’t even begin to imagine what it would be like trying to find a job without a computer.

217 MicheleR  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:46:34pm

re: #216 BongCrodny

Indeed.

218 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:47:07pm

re: #216 BongCrodny

Wonder how many of them managed to buy all that stuff *while* poor.

If I had to make an uneducated guess, it would be that most of those folks got that stuff *before* they were poor.

Is it possible these days to find a job without a computer or transportation? The career center in my town is five miles from my apartment. If I didn’t have access to public transportation, it would be awfully difficult to get out there, and I can’t even begin to imagine what it would be like trying to find a job without a computer.

That’s a good point too.

219 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:48:59pm

re: #216 BongCrodny

Wonder how many of them managed to buy all that stuff *while* poor.

None of them!!!

Only rich white conservatives buy anything, or pay taxes. Everyone steals whatever they have from Poor Us!!!

You just don’t understand@!!

220 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:49:14pm

re: #196 JasonA

Try finding a TV that isn’t wide-screen these days. Check every Best Buy, every Target, every Costco. I’ll wait…

I would guess a flatscreen TV these days is about $300. Individual health insurance costs me about $450 every month for a single person.

221 MicheleR  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:50:09pm

re: #200 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

“Let them use dial up”- Heritage Foundation Antoinette, 2011

222 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:50:13pm

re: #211 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

GOP complaining that Obama is trying to reduce too much debt

It’s only too much until they find something they want to actually increase spending on, then it’ll simply not be enough.

223 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:51:24pm

re: #104 Lidane

BTW, it’s worth noting that the picture of George Takei as Sulu that ThinkProgress uses here works on a whole other level. Takei is a survivor of the Japanese internment camps.

Late to this segment of the conversation, but yeah, Takei rules. He did an interview about childhood in the internment camps for BBC Witness (I think). I sat in a bodega parking lot listening and tearing up. Not many celebrities I give much of a damn about, but Takei rules (and I totally want to give him and his husband a bear hug for being awesome).

224 Talking Point Detective  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:52:17pm

If anyone sees RogueOne - please link him to this with my regards:

npr.org

The interview puts to rest any notion that “torture worked.”

225 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:52:31pm

Shockingly Petty: News Corp. Outlets Attack Obama Over Paper Clip

n the annals of mindless partisan sniping, this may place at the top.

This morning, Fox & Friends joined the New York Post in attacking President Obama for using a paper clip. Read that again: They attacked Obama for using a paper clip.

The Post’s story today on Obama’s jobs bill is headlined “O gives jobs ‘clip’ service; $447B ‘tax hike’ plan bound by chintzy fastener,” and its first two paragraphs attack Obama for his choice of document fasteners:

Roflcopter

226 BongCrodny  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:54:29pm

From HuffPo:

U.S. Poverty Rate Climbed To 15.1 Percent Last Year, Total Number Hit All Time Record

The U.S. unemployment rate was a little bit over 4% in 2007. It’s now hovering at or around 9%.

Does that mean that more than twice as many people suddenly became leeches over the past four years when compared with 2007?

I just don’t understand that “burden on society” mentality, and I guess I never will.

Most people *want* to work. Period.

227 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:54:40pm

re: #225 Varek Raith

Shockingly Petty: News Corp. Outlets Attack Obama Over Paper Clip

Roflcopter

They’d go after him for that elitist double-bond paper, but that’s a bit too esoteric for their audience base.

228 jaunte  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:54:47pm

Reading a right wing blog, I see this take on the disaster aid bill:

A bill to replenish FEMA’s depleted coffers failed to advance in the Senate last night, and of course the Democrats and their media shills are decrying “partisan politics.”

…snip…

the crybabies fail to note that the House has already approved a FEMA funding bill, and it’s that bill which Senate Democrats won’t advance.

Why? Because it funds FEMA by eliminating a bunch of boondoggle electric car and green energy subsidy programs, that’s why. Think Solyndra, only on a nationwide scale. But the radical greenies won’t stand for even one of their pet projects being exposed as yet another ineffective waste of taxpayer dollars. So preening Gaia-worshipping ecowarriors and their Chevy Volt smugmobiles trump disaster assistance for average middle class New Jerseyans.

Who are the real “pawns” here?

Smugmobiles?

229 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:54:49pm

re: #225 Varek Raith

So if he’d bought and used a couple of $0.99 clear plastic binders he would have gotten an “A” and then be re-elected in a landslide?
/

Sorry, that is beyond laughable in sheer nit-pickery.

230 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:54:50pm

re: #220 Killgore Trout

I would guess a flatscreen TV these days is about $300. Individual health insurance costs me about $450 every month for a single person.

$300 will get you a decent, brand-name 32” 720p HDTV, if you do a little shopping around for sales. So yeah.

231 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:55:29pm

re: #225 Varek Raith

Shockingly Petty: News Corp. Outlets Attack Obama Over Paper Clip

Roflcopter

Youtube Video

232 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:55:49pm

re: #228 jaunte

Reading a right wing blog, I see this take on the disaster aid bill:

Smugmobiles?

South Park reference.

233 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:56:00pm

re: #225 Varek Raith

Shockingly Petty: News Corp. Outlets Attack Obama Over Paper Clip

Roflcopter

And again, I’m back to asking “Of all the possible issues you could be attacking him on, you chose this as the winning angle?”

Fucking ridiculous.

234 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:56:58pm

re: #230 JasonA

$300 will get you a decent, brand-name 32” 720p HDTV, if you do a little shopping around for sales. So yeah.

Just go to Big Lots, getcha one for $299.

235 jaunte  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:57:44pm

re: #225 Varek Raith

Chintzgate!

236 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:58:00pm

re: #225 Varek Raith

Shockingly Petty: News Corp. Outlets Attack Obama Over Paper Clip

Roflcopter

…the fuck??

238 BongCrodny  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:58:28pm

re: #220 Killgore Trout

I would guess a flatscreen TV these days is about $300. Individual health insurance costs me about $450 every month for a single person.

I bought a 17” flat screen at Best Buy a couple years ago, and got about 40% off the normal price because it had been pre-owned and returned.

It was as new as could be without officially being new, and it works just fine. I know a good deal when I see it. :-)

239 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:59:24pm

re: #228 jaunte

Reading a right wing blog, I see this take on the disaster aid bill:

Smugmobiles?

If true, then it’s par for the course. The House GOP have been doing this since January, stuffing “poison pill” amendments into otherwise innocuous bills, so that they can capitalize on Senate Democrats refusal to slit their own throats.

240 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 1:59:36pm

re: #234 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Just go to Big Lots, getcha one for $299.

Of course, a forward-looking strategist would figure out that what they should do is put out a subsidized widescreen for even less. Of course, that TV has the built-in chip that only picks up FOX…

241 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:00:52pm

re: #233 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And again, I’m back to asking “Of all the possible issues you could be attacking him on, you chose this as the winning angle?”

Fucking ridiculous.

Image: paperclip.png

243 RadicalModerate  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:02:31pm

More of that “small government” libertarianism in action in Texas:

Watauga council member urges CHL owners to carry

It’s in that new role that he began brainstorming about ways to find more money for street repairs, along with the water and sewer system.

“My favorite thing would be to cut the sales tax revenue that goes into parks department and the sales tax revenue that goes into the police department,” Clements said.

In turn, Clements believes the police department should teach citizens to shoot.

“As a responsible government person, if you are going to say you’re not going to pay for police services any more, it’s irresponsible to say, ‘You’re on your own, have a nice day,’” Clements said.

Lastly, Clements suggested requiring people with concealed handgun licenses to bring those guns to council meetings, to help provide security.

244 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:02:44pm
80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. In 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
92 percent of poor households have a microwave.
Nearly three-fourths have a car or truck, and 31 percent have two or more cars or trucks.
Nearly two-thirds have cable or satellite TV.
Two-thirds have at least one DVD player, and 70 percent have a VCR.
Half have a personal computer, and one in seven have two or more computers.
More than half of poor families with children have a video game system, such as an Xbox or PlayStation.
43 percent have Internet access.
One-third have a wide-screen plasma or LCD TV.
One-fourth have a digital video recorder system, such as a TiVo.

Lemme check local Craigslist real quick.
$30 used window AC unit
$25 used 700-watt microwave
Not even gonna bother to check cars, but I once sold a 1984 Buick Regal with shot transmission and 140k miles on it for $300 and felt guilty for taking that much.
$40 DVD player brand new at Wal-Mart, VCR $10 at Goodwill
Original X-Box $50 with some games thrown in, ditto previous generation Playstations
33% have LCD TV, which means 66% don’t
and 75% don’t have a DVR.

I don’t know what the fuck they’re trying to say. They should be happy and proud that America’s poor aren’t wading ankle-deep in raw sewage and their dead neighbors like they really are in some parts of the world.

245 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:03:10pm

re: #241 Lidane

Image: paperclip.png

RAGE…BUILDING…

FUCK YOU PAPERCLIP! I SMASH YOU!!!

Damn it Lidane, you owe me a new monitor.

246 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:03:37pm

re: #234 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Just go to Big Lots, getcha one for $299.

Costco has one for $289.97.

247 jaunte  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:04:32pm

re: #239 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It looks like that is what’s happening:

Disaster Relief Funding: Parties Spar Over FEMA Appropriations

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said earlier this week that any additional disaster funding would have to be offset by spending cuts — a position that could be a tough sell for Congressional Democrats.

“Are House Republicans willing to shut down the federal government in order to satisfy their demands for offsets on disaster relief for the victims of Hurricane Irene?” asked the aide, who did not want to be identified.

Asked and answered…

248 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:04:50pm

re: #246 Lidane

Costco has one for $289.97.

I went for a 26” Vizio, LED with 1080p. Very happy with it and it costs the same.

249 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:05:18pm

I remember the advent of microwaves. My grandparents got one first, and my grandmother had a microwave cookbook.

hahahahaha

Nobody had figured out yet that microwaves were primarily good for thawing frozen stuff, popping popcorn, warming up leftovers, and cooking bacon.

Not real cooking.

250 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:05:30pm

re: #244 negativ

And less than half have internet access at home. Given how email and related electronic communications are coursing through our society you’d think we’d want them to have it in order to make our society more inclusive in that regard.

Of course, having home internet would also allow one to fact check whatever FOX is showing on your wide screen TV…

251 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:06:46pm

re: #249 EmmmieG

I remember the advent of microwaves. My grandparents got one first, and my grandmother had a microwave cookbook.

hahahahaha

Nobody had figured out yet that microwaves were primarily good for thawing frozen stuff, popping popcorn, warming up leftovers, and cooking bacon.

Not real cooking.

Heh. But it also changed the college age diet from macaroni and cheese and ramen noodles to a much wider variety of items.

252 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:06:53pm

16:9 just screams “wealth”

253 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:07:10pm

re: #244 negativ

Lemme check local Craigslist real quick.
$30 used window AC unit
$25 used 700-watt microwave
Not even gonna bother to check cars, but I once sold a 1984 Buick Regal with shot transmission and 140k miles on it for $300 and felt guilty for taking that much.
$40 DVD player brand new at Wal-Mart, VCR $10 at Goodwill
Original X-Box $50 with some games thrown in, ditto previous generation Playstations
33% have LCD TV, which means 66% don’t
and 75% don’t have a DVR.

I don’t know what the fuck they’re trying to say. They should be happy and proud that America’s poor aren’t wading ankle-deep in raw sewage and their dead neighbors like they really are in some parts of the world.

They have to maintain the illusion of the “welfare queen,” the one who rolls up to the welfare office in a brand new Cadillac, decked out in designer clothes, and encrusted with various jewels, laughing as she gets even more money from “poor, workin’ class folks.”

So often, the ones making such arguments are themselves middle to upper middle class folks, who can’t believe that anybody could live a somewhat decent life in this country and still be poor. I mean, they had to spend so much money on getting the best of everything, so how can somebody on welfare afford a DVD player? Even if it was only $20 at Rite-Aid?

254 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:07:23pm

re: #249 EmmmieG

Nobody had figured out yet that microwaves were primarily good for thawing frozen stuff, popping popcorn, warming up leftovers, and cooking bacon.

Not real cooking.

I’m with you on everything but the bacon and popcorn. I like cooking bacon on the stove, then saving the grease to use when I make popcorn. Yummy!

255 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:07:26pm

OT, but this struck me as very funny
Image: reFP5.png

256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:08:07pm

re: #249 EmmmieG

Nobody had figured out yet that microwaves were primarily good for thawing frozen stuff, popping popcorn, warming up leftovers, and cooking bacon.

And for messing up pacemakers. Not to mention what they do to hamsters.

257 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:08:23pm

Fail.

258 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:08:32pm

re: #245 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

RAGE…BUILDING…

FUCK YOU PAPERCLIP! I SMASH YOU!!!

Damn it Lidane, you owe me a new monitor.

Sorry about the monitor. I hated that damned paper clip too. :)

259 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:08:37pm

re: #251 oaktree

Heh. But it also changed the college age diet from macaroni and cheese and ramen noodles to a much wider variety of items.

Right. From macaroni and cheese made on the stovetop to easy mac, and from ramen noodles to cup of noodles made with microwaved water.

Big difference.

260 jaunte  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:09:19pm

re: #244 negativ

I don’t know what the fuck they’re trying to say. They should be happy and proud that America’s poor aren’t wading ankle-deep in raw sewage and their dead neighbors like they really are in some parts of the world.

I’m pretty sure that poverty is considered an outward expression of some inner failing (sinfulness) by a lot of people, who don’t mind seeing it punished.

261 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:10:35pm

re: #257 Varek Raith

Fail.

Gee. It looks just like the interface for my Windows Phone. Imagine that.

Now if they’d only making having a Windows Phone worth it. I’m about ready to ditch this thing for an Android phone if the next update doesn’t punch this shit forward a few generations. =P

262 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:10:57pm

re: #257 Varek Raith

Fail.

If Microsoft wants to put out a tablet so badly, then I wish to God they’d do so. Then they can get it out of their system that they need to ape Apple and get back to working on half-way decent OS’.

263 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:11:04pm

re: #257 Varek Raith

Fail.

I hate to say this, but… it’s growing on me. Not for a desktop, but I could see it being really nice on a tablet.

264 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:11:34pm

re: #259 EmmmieG

Right. From macaroni and cheese made on the stovetop to easy mac, and from ramen noodles to cup of noodles made with microwaved water.

Big difference.

Tortilla, shredded cheese, cold chicken strips, 45 seconds in the microwave.

QUESADILLA!

265 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:11:51pm

re: #261 Lidane

Gee. It looks just like the interface for my Windows Phone. Imagine that.

Now if they’d only making having a Windows Phone worth it. I’m about ready to ditch this thing for an Android phone if the next update doesn’t punch this shit forward a few generations. =P

Who’s your Carrier?

266 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:13:32pm

re: #265 JasonA

Who’s your Carrier?

AT&T

267 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:13:59pm

re: #266 Lidane

AT&T

Ouch. My condolences.

268 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:14:12pm

re: #32 Killgore Trout

I think that’s a pretty strong possibility. Obama doesn’t seem to want to play hardball with them yet but they can’t be appeased. They’re going to keep pushing.

That’s how bullies always operate. They never stop unless you stop them, hard.

I don’t understand why Obama is trying to compromise with people who regard ‘compromise’ as a four letter word.

269 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:14:56pm

re: #266 Lidane

AT&T

Ah. So I’m guessing Focus? Yeah, WP7 really ain’t there yet.

270 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:14:58pm

re: #261 Lidane

Gee. It looks just like the interface for my Windows Phone. Imagine that.

Now if they’d only making having a Windows Phone worth it. I’m about ready to ditch this thing for an Android phone if the next update doesn’t punch this shit forward a few generations. =P

I saw a rumour somewhere that Samsung was going to ditch Windows Phone OS for android or a self-developed os.

271 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:15:47pm

re: #254 Lidane

I’m with you on everything but the bacon and popcorn. I like cooking bacon on the stove, then saving the grease to use when I make popcorn. Yummy!

I cook bacon in the oven now. A lot less messy than the stovetop and can still get nice and crispy as well as having bacon grease to pour off and use for other purposes. Plus it frees up the stove burners for cooking eggs, home fries, etc. at the same time when fixing breakfast for 4-6 people.

272 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:16:57pm

re: #267 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Ouch. My condolences.

I swore up and down for years that I’d never use AT&T again and I was with T-mobile for a long time. The allure of the iPhone was too strong to resist, so I went back. Then, I lost my phone and had to get a new one.

Now I’m stuck in a contract for god knows how long with a phone I can’t stand because the Windows app store is pathetic compared to the others. The XBox Live achievements are nice and so is having Office and Adobe Reader, but man, this thing feels ancient in comparison. =/

273 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:17:02pm

re: #271 oaktree

Microwaves work very well for the Morning Star “Fakin’ Bacon” that I eat. Crispy… mmm…

274 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:17:37pm

re: #273 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Microwaves work very well for the Morning Star “Fakin’ Bacon” that I eat. Crispy… mmm…

LIES
:P

275 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:17:39pm

re: #270 imp_62

I saw a rumour somewhere that Samsung was going to ditch Windows Phone OS for android or a self-developed os.

Yeah, I’ve heard that too. And we’re still waiting for Nokia’s WP7 phones to come over the horizon… Bear in my mind that Nokia has totally jumped on board with MS. No Android from them whatsoever. And they have yet to release one of those WP7 phones.

(Unless it already dropped and I totally missed it. Not impossible considering all the attention the platform gets.)

276 Tigger2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:17:59pm

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

At this point, I wouldn’t vote for a more qualified Republican for any office, just because it gives their crazies one more vote to leverage when it comes to other issues.

Fuck you, GOP.

I started that 2 years ago, I told the GOP to fuck off and have never looked back and never will.

277 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:18:03pm

re: #249 EmmmieG

I remember the advent of microwaves. My grandparents got one first, and my grandmother had a microwave cookbook.

hahahahaha

Nobody had figured out yet that microwaves were primarily good for thawing frozen stuff, popping popcorn, warming up leftovers, and cooking bacon.

Not real cooking.

I remember that too. Mom tried a microwave roasted chicken once. I seem to recall microwaved steaks once.

278 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:18:12pm

re: #272 Lidane

I swore up and down for years that I’d never use AT&T again and I was with T-mobile for a long time. The allure of the iPhone was too strong to resist, so I went back. Then, I lost my phone and had to get a new one.

Now I’m stuck in a contract for god knows how long with a phone I can’t stand because the Windows app store is pathetic compared to the others. The XBox Live achievements are nice and so is having Office and Adobe Reader, but man, this thing feels ancient in comparison. =/

Sometimes termination fees are worth it.

279 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:19:11pm

re: #269 JasonA

Ah. So I’m guessing Focus? Yeah, WP7 really ain’t there yet.

Yeah, I have a Focus. I keep eyeing the Infuse. It looks so much nicer.

280 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:19:19pm

re: #259 EmmmieG

Right. From macaroni and cheese made on the stovetop to easy mac, and from ramen noodles to cup of noodles made with microwaved water.

Big difference.

Well for me having a microwave available at college (and immediately post-college) led to eating a lot more vegetables (heated from frozen) and doing some experimentation with cooking fish and other meats when I did not have convenient access to and/or time with a conventional oven to cook a meal.

Though a lot of it does essentially mean using microwaves to boil water rather than the stove. (I recall poaching eggs in a microwave - which is basically simply using it to do something that can usually be done easier via conventional cooking. The whole “cult of the new” thing in action.)

281 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:20:41pm

re: #272 Lidane

I swore up and down for years that I’d never use AT&T again and I was with T-mobile for a long time. The allure of the iPhone was too strong to resist, so I went back. Then, I lost my phone and had to get a new one.

Now I’m stuck in a contract for god knows how long with a phone I can’t stand because the Windows app store is pathetic compared to the others. The XBox Live achievements are nice and so is having Office and Adobe Reader, but man, this thing feels ancient in comparison. =/

Be honest, I’ve never understood the allure of the iPhone. But I guess that’s because I hardly use my cellphone as is, and know that if I had one that had as many functions as the iPod I got as a present, I’d quickly blow through any cheap data plan.

282 RadicalModerate  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:20:46pm

re: #257 Varek Raith

Yeah, there’s been rumors about Microsoft developing Win8 as a tablet-oriented operating system for some time. Debian/Ubuntu flavors of Linux did this on their latest release with the “Unity” interface, which has been HEAVILY criticized by the primarily desktop user base, as highly unusable. Unfortunately, app development for the desktop-friendly environments on those OSes has stalled, and many apps just don’t work nearly as well as they used to.
I’ve actually had to install Win7 on my desktop system in a dual-boot capacity because of it.

About the only saving grace for Microsoft is that the current “Aero” UI just runs on top of the main Windows engine (as has been the case since Vista), so the desktop vs tablet interface for Win8 may actually work for them, if said fast-switching can be seamlessly implemented.

283 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:21:25pm

re: #274 Varek Raith

LIES
:P

If bacon is manly and quiche is not what do you get if you put bacon in a quiche?

284 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:21:25pm

re: #279 Lidane

Yeah, I have a Focus. I keep eyeing the Infuse. It looks so much nicer.

Some advice to keep in mind for the future: if you ever do switch, consider porting your number over to Google Voice. The you can let that app handle all of your texting so you can circumvent the need to pay a carrier like Verizon or AT&T $20/month for something that costs them nothing to let you do in the first place.

285 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:21:53pm

I propose we use this to solve every political argument in our society from this day forward

Image: wtf-photos-videos-its-all-in-good-fun.jpg

286 Political Atheist  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:22:42pm

Paul Krugman is totally full of it this time. (Profanities withheld but felt deeply)

287 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:23:02pm

re: #279 Lidane

Yeah, I have a Focus. I keep eyeing the Infuse. It looks so much nicer.

Don’t eye the Infuse. Eye the Galaxy S 2. Much nicer, with a dual core processor.

Actually, you’ll hate yourself if you switch phones now. LTE phones for AT&T should be dropping in winter.

288 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:23:26pm

OK: Everybody in this thread must post something good that happened to them today. I go first:
I went on a great bike ride and saw some cool exercises at the fire department proving grounds

289 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:23:30pm

One reason the House bill has less funding for Democratic priorities is because, even before the hurricane, Republicans had decided that the President’s budget didn’t have enough money for the Disaster Relief Fund. So they funded it at $850 million above the President’s request. Then as they realized that the damage in places like Joplin, Missouri would put additional strain on the fund, the GOP added the amendment that provided still more disaster assistance and cut funding for Mr. Biden’s beloved electric cars.
The White House hasn’t asked for more funding, though White House budget director Jacob Lew wrote to lawmakers Thursday suggesting it could be well north of $5 billion. But so far Mr. Cantor is being blamed for opposing disaster relief because he has been trying to spend more than the President, and to place that above other spending priorities.
online.wsj.com

This is why I hate the WSJ.

290 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:23:46pm

re: #281 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Be honest, I’ve never understood the allure of the iPhone. But I guess that’s because I hardly use my cellphone as is, and know that if I had one that had as many functions as the iPod I got as a present, I’d quickly blow through any cheap data plan.

Sprint. Unlimited data. iPhone next month (most likely). Case closed.

291 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:24:48pm

re: #290 JasonA

Sprint. Unlimited data. iPhone next month (most likely). Case closed.

I have coverage issues with Sprint. Not in a MMA

292 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:24:49pm

re: #281 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Be honest, I’ve never understood the allure of the iPhone. But I guess that’s because I hardly use my cellphone as is, and know that if I had one that had as many functions as the iPod I got as a present, I’d quickly blow through any cheap data plan.

I’m a gadget nerd, so the iPhone was a huge step up from the Blackberry Pearl I was using at the time. When my contract at T-mobile came up, I jumped ship.

It wasn’t so bad until I lost my iPhone in the back of a cab and had to just buy what I could afford at the time, which was the Samsung Focus with WP7. I’m thinking I should have just replaced my iPhone instead, or just gotten a Droid. =P

293 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:26:29pm

re: #289 Cannadian Club Akbar

One reason the House bill has less funding for Democratic priorities is because, even before the hurricane, Republicans had decided that the President’s budget didn’t have enough money for the Disaster Relief Fund. So they funded it at $850 million above the President’s request. Then as they realized that the damage in places like Joplin, Missouri would put additional strain on the fund, the GOP added the amendment that provided still more disaster assistance and cut funding for Mr. Biden’s beloved electric cars.
The White House hasn’t asked for more funding, though White House budget director Jacob Lew wrote to lawmakers Thursday suggesting it could be well north of $5 billion. But so far Mr. Cantor is being blamed for opposing disaster relief because he has been trying to spend more than the President, and to place that above other spending priorities.
[Link: online.wsj.com…]

This is why I hate the WSJ.

So, if I’m reading this correctly, the WSJ is trying to argue that Cantor’s remarks about disaster funds needing to be offset never happened, and the GOP’s been trying to “overfund” FEMA? Excuse me a sec.

*coubullshitgh!*

Sorry, got a little something caught in my throat there.

294 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:26:36pm

re: #288 imp_62

OK: Everybody in this thread must post something good that happened to them today. I go first:
I went on a great bike ride and saw some cool exercises at the fire department proving grounds

I’m about to leave work, have a pleasant walk home, pet some cats, and then go to Trader Joe’s and do a some quiet food shopping while the laundry runs. And then fix some chicken, share it with the cat overlords, and spend a few hours reading a book (or LGF.)

295 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:26:42pm

re: #291 imp_62

I have coverage issues with Sprint. Not in a MMA

Case re-opened…

But seriously, they’re the only carrier left with unlimited data. And I’ll bet real money that that goes away by this time next year.

296 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:28:15pm

re: #288 imp_62

OK: Everybody in this thread must post something good that happened to them today. I go first:
I went on a great bike ride and saw some cool exercises at the fire department proving grounds

I beat the shit out of a bunch of hired “private security” mercs who were threatening the life of my hot VTOL pilot…

Oh wait, that’s what happened in the game I was playing earlier. Nevermind.

///

297 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:28:24pm

re: #293 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

So, if I’m reading this correctly, the WSJ is trying to argue that Cantor’s remarks about disaster funds needing to be offset never happened, and the GOP’s been trying to “overfund” FEMA? Excuse me a sec.

*coubullshitgh!*

Sorry, got a little something caught in my throat there.

Nope. Read it again.

298 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:29:21pm

re: #296 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I beat the shit out of a bunch of hired “private security” mercs who were threatening the life of my hot VTOL pilot…

Oh wait, that’s what happened in the game I was playing earlier. Nevermind.

///

Speaking of which, did you see that they’re making a Blackwater game?

299 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:29:53pm

re: #294 oaktree

I’m about to leave work, have a pleasant walk home, pet some cats, and then go to Trader Joe’s and do a some quiet food shopping while the laundry runs. And then fix some chicken, share it with the cat overlords, and spend a few hours reading a book (or LGF.)

What are you reading?

300 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:30:09pm

re: #291 imp_62

I have coverage issues with Sprint.

I got Sprint once. Had them for a month, then I looked at my bill. They literally charged me for roaming during the same call because I’d gone from one side of the store I was in to the other, and that wasn’t the only call it happened for, either. My bill was something stupid like $500.

I paid them, paid the termination fees, and told them where they could put their phones.

301 Political Atheist  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:30:17pm

re: #288 imp_62

OK: Everybody in this thread must post something good that happened to them today. I go first:
I went on a great bike ride and saw some cool exercises at the fire department proving grounds

Okay-Beautiful thundercloud sky north of Los Angeles. Just saw it and stared and enjoyed. (And wished I could run off and photograph it properly)

302 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:32:14pm

re: #285 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I propose we use this to solve every political argument in our society from this day forward

Image: wtf-photos-videos-its-all-in-good-fun.jpg

Mine’s bigger

303 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:33:12pm

re: #302 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mine’s bigger

CHEMTRAILS!

304 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:33:25pm

Crap. Just got here and gotta run. BBIAB.

305 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:33:38pm

re: #296 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I beat the shit out of a bunch of hired “private security” mercs who were threatening the life of my hot VTOL pilot…

Oh wait, that’s what happened in the game I was playing earlier. Nevermind.

///

I blew a couple of Xenon Q to MCSquared. Then I built a Lasertower factory for a very nice profit.

A productive day. ;)

306 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:33:44pm

re: #303 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

One of my all-time fave conspiracy theories!

307 Lidane  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:34:19pm

re: #287 JasonA

Don’t eye the Infuse. Eye the Galaxy S 2. Much nicer, with a dual core processor.

Ooh. Shiny! I like it.

Actually, you’ll hate yourself if you switch phones now. LTE phones for AT&T should be dropping in winter.

I can’t switch now anyway. Money’s tight until I start getting paid. I’m also giving Microsoft a chance to deliver their Fall update for their phones before I jump. If the phone still sucks after they update, I’ll start setting aside cash for an LTE instead.

308 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:34:26pm

re: #300 Lidane

I’ve been with Sprint since God was a child. I like them.

309 BongCrodny  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:35:15pm

re: #288 imp_62

OK: Everybody in this thread must post something good that happened to them today. I go first:
I went on a great bike ride and saw some cool exercises at the fire department proving grounds

I didn’t watch a Republican Presidential candidate debate today.

Do I win?

310 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:35:17pm

re: #305 Romantic Heretic

I blew a couple of Xenon Q to MCSquared. Then I built a Lasertower factory for a very nice profit.

A productive day. ;)

You are aware that the rectangular thingy in the front of your house/apartment is called a “door” and enables you to go somewhere called “outside”?
/

311 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:36:03pm

re: #309 BongCrodny

I didn’t watch a Republican Presidential candidate debate today.

Do I win?

And the Pats lit up the FIsh.

312 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:36:47pm

re: #297 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nope. Read it again.

Okay, read the article in full, and it still makes little sense. They’re claiming that the GOP did provide a lot more funding for FEMA, but the Democrats are the ones holding it up because of being “eco-elites” or some such BS.

I’m not entirely sure how that negates Cantor’s recent remarks, but oh well.

313 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:36:50pm

re: #305 Romantic Heretic

I blew a couple of Xenon Q to MCSquared. Then I built a Lasertower factory for a very nice profit.

A productive day. ;)

I’ve been contemplating using Imperial Guard rules to build an Adeptus Mechanicus force.

314 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:37:01pm

re: #310 imp_62

You are away that the rectangular thingy in the front of your house/apartment is called a “door” and enables you to go somewhere called “outside”?
/

I am. I have no reason to go there today though. It’s boring. /

315 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:37:22pm

re: #244 negativ

I don’t know what the fuck they’re trying to say. They should be happy and proud that America’s poor aren’t wading ankle-deep in raw sewage and their dead neighbors like they really are in some parts of the world.

They aren’t happy with that. They think we need some real third world level poverty here, because they think they are having to pay for all the “luxuries” our poor are enjoying.

316 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:38:00pm

re: #310 imp_62

You are aware that the rectangular thingy in the front of your house/apartment is called a “door” and enables you to go somewhere called “outside”?
/

What kind of quests does this “outside” have? And will my frame rate suffer because my video card isn’t the most modern?

/

317 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:38:38pm

re: #313 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I’ve been contemplating using Imperial Guard rules to build an Adeptus Mechanicus force.

Tried the new Space Marine game? Looks like bloody fun.

318 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:38:58pm

re: #316 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What kind of quests does this “outside” have? And will my frame rate suffer because my video card isn’t the most modern?

/

On second thought, you should stay indoors…

319 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:41:06pm

re: #288 imp_62

OK: Everybody in this thread must post something good that happened to them today. I go first:
I went on a great bike ride and saw some cool exercises at the fire department proving grounds

The ‘official’ edited version of the video of my band with Jim Carrey was posted to YouTube today - after news outlets all over the world wrote about the story and showed crappy iPhone videos.

320 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:41:55pm

re: #317 Romantic Heretic

Tried the new Space Marine game? Looks like bloody fun.

Yeah, been playing, its enjoyable for what it is, though I’m much of a fan of the console FPS genre of games. Just feels like button smashing to me so much of the time.

321 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:42:10pm

re: #319 makeitstop

The ‘official’ edited version of the video of my band with Jim Carrey was posted to YouTube today - after news outlets all over the world wrote about the story and showed crappy iPhone videos.

link or it didn’t happen.

322 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:43:44pm

btw am developing a crush on Alison Sudol

323 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:43:56pm

Let’s remove the emotional attacks and paraphrase.

1) What happened after 9/11 was deeply shameful. (assumes some people capitalized on the tragedy)
2) The atrocity should have been a unifying event, but instead it became a wedge issue.
3) …Bernie Kerik, Rudy Giuliani, and, …, George W. Bush … cashed in on the horror.
4) …the attack was used to justify an unrelated war…
 5) A lot of other people behaved badly. (assumes purposeful ignorance of the capitalization)
6) …professional pundits … turn[ed] a blind eye to the corruption and len[t] their support to the hijacking of the atrocity?

Which of these claims are accurate (if any) and which are inaccurate (if any)?

324 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:46:02pm

re: #321 imp_62

link or it didn’t happen.

If I must. I kind of feel guilty about posting it, because I don’t want to be seen as spamming the board (I’ve posted here about it twice already).

But.. here ya go.

Youtube Video

325 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:48:03pm

re: #324 makeitstop

And you are…?

326 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:48:10pm

re: #33 lawhawk

Just remember that if your state governor doesn’t get those disaster declarations in, they can’t get the federal aid and assistance, and that includes the Gulf Coast states hit by TS Lee, Texas and the wildfires, the East Coast states from Irene and Lee, and any other natural disasters that occur every year that give no regard to borders or political affiliations.

The failure to pass the aid package is an abdication of the Congressional GOP to do their duty to provide aid to the states and the residents of those states.

Just remember that when those who are crying loudest for cutting spending before passing this package will be first to have their hands out if their own districts are affected by a natural disaster.

Pass the damned aid package. Heck, you’ve got GOP governors like Christie who are going against the Congressional GOP, and some GOPers from affected states are starting to feel the pressure to get the aid done - and are starting to lean on the leadership.

This, I think, will be either what shows the TPers to be a rapidly entrenching political force in Washington or that the TPers’ obstructionist maneuvers have finally become the straw that broke the camel’s back in the eyes of a majority of voters.

The VA earthquake, TS Lee, Hurricane Irene, and other associated incidents that have happened lately are fresh enough in most people’s minds and affected, in one way or another, a sizable chunk of the country’s population; I can’t see that sane, rational people would not take umbridge at this naked attempt by the GOP to hold disaster relief hostage.

At least, I hope people get mad about this…

327 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:50:08pm

re: #325 imp_62

And you are…?

The guy in the white t-shirt that you see in the background as the video starts. I play guitar.

328 BeenHereAwhile  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:51:49pm

re: #267 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Ouch. My condolences.

ATT is transitioning to fiber optic big time.

ATT has enacted a slowdown on C&E copper work, with the focus on fiber to enable “real” 4G wireless. At the moment no US carrier offers real 4G.

329 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:52:04pm

re: #327 makeitstop

The guy in the white t-shirt that you see in the background as the video starts. I play guitar.

Very cool. SO as a musician and expert in the field, allow me to ask you a very specialized question: Redheads - Alison Sudol or Florence Welch? I need to choose soon so I can get a head start on the fall stalking season…

330 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:52:30pm

re: #324 makeitstop

I’m definitely coming to see you this Friday, with my friend Bogdon. What time do you guys start?

331 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:53:47pm

re: #330 Obdicut

I’m definitely coming to see you this Friday, with my friend Bogdon. What time do you guys start?

it’s live band karaoke right? You have to sing! :D

332 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:55:30pm

re: #324 makeitstop

fucking rad :D

333 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:55:57pm

re: #329 imp_62

Very cool. SO as a musician and expert in the field, allow me to ask you a very specialized question: Redheads - Alison Sudol or Florence Welch? I need to choose soon so I can get a head start on the fall stalking season…

Florence gets my vote. After seeing her in the ‘Kiss With A Fist’ video I was a fan, and the music I heard after that single was even better.

334 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:56:46pm

re: #330 Obdicut

I’m definitely coming to see you this Friday, with my friend Bogdon. What time do you guys start?

Midnight to 2AM, non-stop.

So… what are you gonna sing? :)

335 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:56:53pm

re: #333 makeitstop

Florence gets my vote. After seeing her in the ‘Kiss With A Fist’ video I was a fan, and the music I heard after that single was even better.

Leaning that way myself. She has a wicked sense of humour that comes through in her music.

336 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:57:24pm

re: #331 WindUpBird

it’s live band karaoke right? You have to sing! :D

I scare people and make children cry when I sing. Fruit curdles in its shell and women become barren. Glasses become covered with a strange black grime that never washes off. Woodchucks forget how to chuck wood and disco becomes relevant again.

337 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:58:02pm

re: #334 makeitstop

Midnight to 2AM, non-stop.

So… what are you gonna sing? :)

I’ll see if Bogdon has a voice. Some night after neuroanatomy is over I’ll get my wife down— she can really sing.

Do you guys hang out there before the show?

338 HoosierHoops  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:59:01pm

re: #336 Obdicut

I scare people and make children cry when I sing. Fruit curdles in its shell and women become barren. Glasses become covered with a strange black grime that never washes off. Woodchucks forget how to chuck wood and disco becomes relevant again.

Well at least you are a better singer than Jim Carey

339 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:59:02pm

re: #288 imp_62

OK: Everybody in this thread must post something good that happened to them today. I go first:
I went on a great bike ride and saw some cool exercises at the fire department proving grounds

I got to see the B-17 that’s here fly overhead. God it was loud. First time I have actually seen one in flight with my own eyes (and a pair of Binocs).

340 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 2:59:57pm

re: #337 Obdicut

I’ll see if Bogdon has a voice. Some night after neuroanatomy is over I’ll get my wife down— she can really sing.

Do you guys hang out there before the show?

I usually get into town around 11:00 and acclimate. I’m usually out in front of the club talking to the bouncers until it’s time to play.

341 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:01:25pm

re: #340 makeitstop

Alright, I’ll keep a weather eye out for you. Ah, to make spotting me easier, I’ll be wearing a shirt that has a faded silhouette of two bunnies fucking, with the Japanese for ‘Multiplayer’ written on it.

342 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:02:31pm

re: #341 Obdicut

Alright, I’ll keep a weather eye out for you. Ah, to make spotting me easier, I’ll be wearing a shirt that has a faded silhouette of two bunnies fucking, with the Japanese for ‘Multiplayer’ written on it.

I look forward to it, and your first beer is on me.

343 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:02:54pm

re: #341 Obdicut

Alright, I’ll keep a weather eye out for you. Ah, to make spotting me easier, I’ll be wearing a shirt that has a faded silhouette of two bunnies fucking, with the Japanese for ‘Multiplayer’ written on it.

Oh, dammit man - just get the shirt that says “all your base are belong to me” :D

344 shutdown  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:05:13pm

I’m off. Back later.

345 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:05:40pm

re: #288 imp_62

OK: Everybody in this thread must post something good that happened to them today. I go first:
I went on a great bike ride and saw some cool exercises at the fire department proving grounds

I’ve been out all day and haven’t argued semantics with Obdicut.

346 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:07:25pm

Shooting at courthouse in Crawford Co., Ark., injures 3 - @KARK4News bit.ly/n2aK1o
BreakingNews Just now

347 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:10:29pm

re: #345 Naso Tang

I’ve been out all day and haven’t argued semantics with Obdicut.

MY GOOD NEWS
I’ll be getting a new monitor now that you’ve made me spew coffee on this one while reading about YOUR “something good”

348 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:11:33pm

re: #336 Obdicut

I scare people and make children cry when I sing. Fruit curdles in its shell and women become barren. Glasses become covered with a strange black grime that never washes off. Woodchucks forget how to chuck wood and disco becomes relevant again.

You’re a musical amputee.

Can’t hold a note, can’t carry a tune.

349 bratwurst  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:14:41pm

re: #288 imp_62

OK: Everybody in this thread must post something good that happened to them today. I go first:
I went on a great bike ride and saw some cool exercises at the fire department proving grounds

After getting fired for daring to point out I had gone 15 months without a raise…then having my former employer lie to the state (saying I was fired for performance issues) in order to deny me unemployment benefits, I received my first ever unemployment check anyway!

350 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:14:55pm

re: #336 Obdicut

I scare people and make children cry when I sing. Fruit curdles in its shell and women become barren. Glasses become covered with a strange black grime that never washes off. Woodchucks forget how to chuck wood and disco becomes relevant again.

He is, The Least Interesting Man In The World

“I don’t always drink water, but when I do, I prefer tap”

(stay thirsty my friends)
//

351 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:19:26pm

I laughed waaay too much upon seeing this:

Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru action figures

352 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:20:51pm

re: #351 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I laughed waaay too much upon seeing this:

Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru action figures

Looks like toys this guy would have

google.com

353 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:24:11pm

re: #346 JasonA

Shooting at courthouse in Crawford Co., Ark., injures 3 - @KARK4News bit.ly/n2aK1o
BreakingNews Just now

re: #349 bratwurst

After getting fired for daring to point out I had gone 15 months without a raise…then having my former employer lie to the state (saying I was fired for performance issues) in order to deny me unemployment benefits, I received my first ever unemployment check anyway!

Sounds like a fucking prick to me…it’s cold comfort for you, being without a job, but that person’s sounds like a SOB to work for

354 darthstar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:24:40pm

Just got an email from my dad about Ollie North testifying about wanting to kill Osama bin Laden in 1987, but that the Senator hearing his testimony, Al Gore, disagreed. That’s right…Al Gore is the reason for 9/11…or maybe it’s just a coincidence.

355 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:25:00pm

From his photo, looks as if he could just gum it. Maybe thats why he put it back!

Carlisle man accused of eating raw meat at Walmart and putting it back on shelves

pennlive.com

356 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:28:09pm

re: #354 darthstar

Just got an email from my dad about Ollie North testifying about wanting to kill Osama bin Laden in 1987, but that the Senator hearing his testimony, Al Gore, disagreed. That’s right…Al Gore is the reason for 9/11…or maybe it’s just a coincidence.

Lemme guess…no real, credible corroborative sources, right?

/color me shocked

357 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:30:17pm

re: #288 imp_62

OK: Everybody in this thread must post something good that happened to them today. I go first:
I went on a great bike ride and saw some cool exercises at the fire department proving grounds

Ok.

I put a Smith & Wesson Model 642 on lay-away today.

358 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:31:03pm

re: #356 talon_262

Lemme guess…no real, credible corroborative sources, right?

/color me shocked

This ridiculous hoax has been circulating since 2001, even though the secretary of the U.S. Senate and North himself have debunked it.

factcheck.org

359 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:31:27pm

Time To Make The Dinner!!

360 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:32:23pm

re: #354 darthstar

Just got an email from my dad about Ollie North testifying about wanting to kill Osama bin Laden in 1987, but that the Senator hearing his testimony, Al Gore, disagreed. That’s right…Al Gore is the reason for 9/11…or maybe it’s just a coincidence.

Snopes has already eviscerated this one.

361 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:34:45pm

Well, I’m about a mile high already and in Colorado. In other news. Things are rather rough out there. You can see it in people’s faces. You can see it in how packed the Wal-Marts are. I’ve come to the conclusion that Americans are here to serve the super wealthy and professional class. Caught some of the “debate” on various cable news channels. No comment. Republicans are and have been part of the problem for a long time now. The audience was almost a who’s who of wingnut bloggers. Romney and Perry are disgusting.

[Happy face.]

362 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:37:04pm

re: #354 darthstar

Just got an email from my dad about Ollie North testifying about wanting to kill Osama bin Laden in 1987, but that the Senator hearing his testimony, Al Gore, disagreed. That’s right…Al Gore is the reason for 9/11…or maybe it’s just a coincidence.

It’s a well known myth. I even saw it in an urban legends book.

363 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:37:57pm

BTW, Motel6 sucks. They’re kind of crappy and I’ve been paying close to 50 bucks for a stupid room. 50 bucks for a low rent motel room. Can you believe that?

America. The land of opportunity.

364 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:38:37pm

re: #360 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Snopes has already eviscerated this one.

Unfortunately, the true believers wouldn’t believe any refutation Snopes does, because they’re apparently filthy, dirty libruls now.

365 Jack Burton  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:39:03pm

re: #356 talon_262

Lemme guess…no real, credible corroborative sources, right?

/color me shocked

Just about 100% of all political e-mails I receive from anyone of retirement age or older are usually a previously debunked (and multiple previous times at that) fauxtrage, always from a far-right kook perspective.

366 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:39:52pm

re: #361 Gus 802

Well, I’m about a mile high already and in Colorado. In other news. Things are rather rough out there. You can see it in people’s faces. You can see it in how packed the Wal-Marts are. I’ve come to the conclusion that Americans are here to serve the super wealthy and professional class. Caught some of the “debate” on various cable news channels. No comment. Republicans are and have been part of the problem for a long time now. The audience was almost a who’s who of wingnut bloggers. Romney and Perry are disgusting.

[Happy face.]

On our road trip, we saw people pull into McDonald’s, go in and use the bathroom, come back out and make lunch from stuff in their cooler in the trunk, and take off again.

There are more people on the road, and fewer big motor homes.

I didn’t mind the Motel 6’s, but some of ‘em are even more than $50.

367 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:40:36pm

re: #361 Gus 802

Well, I’m about a mile high already and in Colorado. In other news. Things are rather rough out there. You can see it in people’s faces. You can see it in how packed the Wal-Marts are. I’ve come to the conclusion that Americans are here to serve the super wealthy and professional class. Caught some of the “debate” on various cable news channels. No comment. Republicans are and have been part of the problem for a long time now. The audience was almost a who’s who of wingnut bloggers. Romney and Perry are disgusting.

[Happy face.]

Americans serve the feds…except me of course

368 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:41:41pm

re: #366 wrenchwench

On our road trip, we saw people pull into McDonald’s, go in and use the bathroom, come back out and make lunch from stuff in their cooler in the trunk, and take off again.

There are more people on the road, and fewer big motor homes.

I didn’t mind the Motel 6’s, but some of ‘em are even more than $50.

I’ve been making sandwiches. Spent an arm and a leg getting here. Everything costs a ton of money.

369 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:42:54pm

re: #368 Gus 802

I’ve been making sandwiches. Spent an arm and a leg getting here. Everything costs a ton of money.

Especially the most unavoidable expense: gasoline.

370 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:43:54pm

re: #369 wrenchwench

Especially the most unavoidable expense: gasoline.

Yeah. It’s not much cheaper outside of California. Meanwhile, the oil companies set record profits and the wingnuts want to blame Obama. As if he sets the gasoline prices.

371 darthstar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:44:42pm

re: #369 wrenchwench

Especially the most unavoidable expense: gasoline.

I bought $2 gas the other day…had to pay 1.97 for every other half gallon…which, I should point out, is LESS than $2.

372 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:44:46pm

re: #363 Gus 802

BTW, Motel6 sucks. They’re kind of crappy and I’ve been paying close to 50 bucks for a stupid room. 50 bucks for a low rent motel room. Can you believe that?

America. The land of opportunity.

That’s the thing with most franchise businesses, whether it’s a Motel 6 or a Mcdonald’s…it all depends on the franchisee and the people they employ to adhere to the franchisor’s prescribed or recommended procedures.

373 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:45:43pm

re: #370 Gus 802

Yeah. It’s not much cheaper outside of California. Meanwhile, the oil companies set record profits and the wingnuts want to blame Obama. As if he sets the gasoline prices.

gas in ABQ is about 3.40….not bad at all seems to me

374 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:46:00pm

re: #372 talon_262

That’s the thing with most franchise businesses, whether it’s a Motel 6 or a Mcdonald’s…it all depends on the franchisee and the people they employ to adhere to the franchisor’s prescribed or recommended procedures.

Hey. Speaking of which. Those are “Rick Perry jobs.” Yep, you too can move to Texas and get a job at McDonald’s or Motel6.

375 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:46:19pm

re: #368 Gus 802

I’ve been making sandwiches. Spent an arm and a leg getting here. Everything costs a ton of money.

Wages go down, prices go up, the number of folks below the poverty line increases, and what will the Right do? Argue that the “line” is set too high, because the poor can “afford” AC and refrigerators.

What a country!//

376 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:46:52pm

re: #373 albusteve

3.45 is the average across North America right now it looks like.

377 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:48:02pm

re: #375 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And soon they’ll be able to afford high speed internet! (per comcast bargain ‘net for poor families deal).

Damn bloated aristocrat welfare Queens

378 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:48:09pm

re: #373 albusteve

gas in ABQ is about 3.40…not bad at all seems to me

Nearly 50 cents cheaper than what I’m paying. Not bad at all.

379 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:48:41pm

re: #376 windsagio

3.45 is the average across North America right now it looks like.

We were mostly in the boonies, and never saw it lower than $3.559/gal. Mostly it was around $3.70.

380 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:49:48pm

re: #376 windsagio

3.45 is the average across North America right now it looks like.

re: #376 windsagio

3.45 is the average across North America right now it looks like.

my gas guzzling pimpmobile sits in my moms garage up north, unused…I drive a Jetta around ABQ and not a whole lot….fortunately gas is not a problem for me…

381 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:49:58pm

re: #374 Gus 802

Hey. Speaking of which. Those are “Rick Perry jobs.” Yep, you too can move to Texas and get a job at McDonald’s or Motel6.

I’d like to see Rick Perry as a housekeeper at Motel 6.

382 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:50:03pm

re: #377 windsagio

And soon they’ll be able to afford high speed internet! (per comcast bargain ‘net for poor families deal).

Damn bloated aristocrat welfare Queens

Damn, these parasites are livin’ in style! Why, next I’ll be told that they can afford cars less than 10 years old. All the more reason to end welfare!

383 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:50:31pm

re: #381 wrenchwench

I’d like to see Rick Perry as a housekeeper at Motel 6.

Kinky.

384 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:52:16pm

re: #375 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Wages go down, prices go up, the number of folks below the poverty line increases, and what will the Right do? Argue that the “line” is set too high, because the poor can “afford” AC and refrigerators.

What a country!//

The “AC” in my room is barely working. No doubt it’s from the original construction. Can you believe a company like Motel6 that rakes in this constant flow of people can’t afford to maintain their HVAC units? What excuse to they have?

But that’s the American way. Invest in some project and then let it go to shit. We’ve done it to our cities. Europeans cities that were bombed to near total ruin were rebuilt and make our cities look like shit. Went through Salt Lake city. It’s the same deal. Nice areas yet it’s full of poor downtrodden neighborhoods.

America doesn’t invest in its infrastructure nor its people. Everything is to serve the rich, politicians, and corporate interests.

385 Kragar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:52:51pm

re: #376 windsagio

3.45 is the average across North America right now it looks like.

$3.95 around here.

386 Atlas Fails  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:53:39pm

re: #374 Gus 802

Hey. Speaking of which. Those are “Rick Perry jobs.” Yep, you too can move to Texas and get a job at McDonald’s or Motel6.

But won’t he force me to put a ebil vaccine in my body?!?! Sorry, I’m staying away from the Texas Nanny-Welfare State.

387 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:53:45pm

re: #381 wrenchwench

I’d like to see Rick Perry as a housekeeper at Motel 6.

His hair wouldn’t survive a minute and his feet would be killing him in those useless pointy cowboy boots.

388 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:54:01pm

re: #375 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Wages go down, prices go up, the number of folks below the poverty line increases, and what will the Right do? Argue that the “line” is set too high, because the poor can “afford” AC and refrigerators.

What a country!//

A huge chunk of the TPGOP, as evidenced by both the candidates’ and spectators’ behavior at the TPGOP “debate” last night, is “severely fucked in the head”, to use a technical term.

389 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:55:26pm

re: #386 Atlas Fails

Oh crap. I saw that. What a total anti-vaxxer. And not once did those bubble headed talking heads that interviewed her mentioned the usefulness of that vaccine. They’re all clueless.

390 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:57:55pm

re: #389 Gus 802

don’t you know, they stick those needles right up little girls… you know what I mean, *wink, wink*

391 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:58:10pm

re: #373 albusteve

gas in ABQ is about 3.40…not bad at all seems to me

I’ve seen 3.59. But that’s low test. I have to get at least 87 octane for the turbo. Allegedly. And when you have to travel several hundred mile even 3.40 begins to add up.

392 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:59:31pm

re: #390 windsagio

don’t you know, they stick those needles right up little girls… you know what I mean, *wink, wink*

Pointy boots added an opt-out. Crazy eyes wanted it to be an opt-in. I forgot the quote but it was a total anti-vaxxer and anti-science comment from Bachmann.

393 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:00:51pm

oops, I read it wrong, I took ‘change’ as ‘variance’.

(link)

394 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:01:22pm

re: #392 Gus 802

I just remember it creeping me the fuck out. She as treating required vaccinations like Rape.

395 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:02:09pm

Here it is:

Bachmann questions safety of HPV vaccine for girls

“I will tell you that I had a mother last night come up to me here in Tampa, Fla., after the debate and tell me that her little daughter took that vaccine, that injection, and she suffered from mental retardation thereafter,” Bachmann said.

“It can have very dangerous side effects. The mother was crying when she came up to me last night. I didn’t know who she was before the debate. This is a very real concern, and people have to draw their own conclusion,” she said.

I heard the one on CNN.

396 Renaissance_Man  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:02:12pm

re: #361 Gus 802

Well, I’m about a mile high already and in Colorado. In other news. Things are rather rough out there. You can see it in people’s faces. You can see it in how packed the Wal-Marts are. I’ve come to the conclusion that Americans are here to serve the super wealthy and professional class. Caught some of the “debate” on various cable news channels. No comment. Republicans are and have been part of the problem for a long time now. The audience was almost a who’s who of wingnut bloggers. Romney and Perry are disgusting.

[Happy face.]

Your super wealthy and professional class agree. Some of their members let all of you know daily on their approved media channels how happy they are with your service, as well as how much you should hate the subversives in your midst.

This is not an exaggeration.

397 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:02:50pm

re: #391 Gus 802

I’ve seen 3.59. But that’s low test. I have to get at least 87 octane for the turbo. Allegedly. And when you have to travel several hundred mile even 3.40 begins to add up.

to be honest, I’ve not had money problems in the last twenty years…when I was fat I spent it…when I wasn’t I didn’t worry about it…money comes and goes, so you will get even someday

398 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:03:00pm

re: #395 Gus 802

Here it is:

Bachmann questions safety of HPV vaccine for girls

I heard the one on CNN.

And…

“The American Academy of Pediatrics would like to correct false statements made in the Republican presidential campaign that HPV vaccine is dangerous and can cause mental retardation,” O. Marion Burton, the academy’s president, said in a statement. “There is absolutely no scientific validity to this statement.”

399 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:05:00pm

re: #396 Renaissance_Man

Was just rereading Bill Mauldin’s second book (Up Front), its always scary how much things stay the same.

The only difference between now and 1947 is we can see the result of 60 years of subverting the New Deal.

400 Atlas Fails  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:05:34pm

re: #395 Gus 802

Here it is:

Bachmann questions safety of HPV vaccine for girls

I heard the one on CNN.

I guarantee she pulled that story right out of her ass. Gardasil is given to girls around the ages of 11 and 12. I’m no doctor, but last I checked, healthy adolescents don’t magically become retarded when injected with evil science juice.

401 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:05:40pm

re: #394 windsagio

I just remember it creeping me the fuck out. She as treating required vaccinations like Rape.

Here you go:

KING: Let’s come back to the point, though. You said, especially of the HPV vaccination issue in Texas, violated liberty?

BACHMANN: Yes, of course it violates liberty, when you have innocent little 12-year-old girls that are being forced to have a government injection into their body. This is a liberty interest that violates the most deepest personal part of a little child. And it violates the parental rights, because what we understand is, again, this was an executive order that mandated that every little 12-year- old girl had to have this vaccination. And then you’d have to opt out.

Well, parents don’t necessarily have the backing — have the information, the backing to know to opt out. This should be an opt in. This is a clearly an example of overreach for government. Again, the governor admitted that this was a big mistake.

The problem is, again, a little girl doesn’t get a do over. Once they have that vaccination in their body, once it causes its damage, that little girl doesn’t have a chance to go back. So you can’t just say you’re sorry. When you’re president of the United States, you don’t get a mulligan. You don’t get a do over.

You have to get it right the first time. I have a core sense of conviction about these issues. And I never would have done that to innocent little 12-year-old girls.

402 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:06:35pm

re: #401 Gus 802

So… Freakin’… creepy.

403 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:07:20pm

re: #402 windsagio

So… Freakin’… creepy.

…Ain’t that America…

404 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:07:32pm

re: #400 Atlas Fails

On the other hand, we do have scientific proof that prolonged exposure to Bachmann causes severe brain damage.

405 darthstar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:08:39pm

So my sister took my wife away yesterday for one night so they could preview the course for an upcoming Triathlon sprint…well, she dropped off about a dozen pears from my brother’s tree…very sweet and very ripe pears…almost too ripe for my taste (I like ‘em firm)…so today I sliced most of them up, tossed them with some butter, ginger, cinnamon, Brandy, and Benedictine in a saute pan, then rolled out a double crust. Now my house smells like a really fucking good pie…only problem is, I really shouldn’t eat it since I’m trying to lose weight. So I’ll stop by a friend’s house and drop it off in the morning. His wife and I made apple pie on Sunday with their apples, and she’s allergic so couldn’t eat the pie we made…but she can eat pears.

406 Renaissance_Man  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:09:22pm

re: #398 Gus 802

Communist organisations like the AAP have no chance or credibility compared to the made-up opinion of one of the Chosen Real Americans.

407 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:09:39pm

re: #401 Gus 802

Here you go:

She shrieks about a “government vaccine” but she has no problem using htat same government to tell certain groups of people that they shouldn’t be allowed to emigrant here and gay and lesbian couples that they shouldn’t get married. What a load of shit she is.

408 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:09:46pm

Even the despicable Limbaugh had this in his daily email:

Did Bachmann Jump Shark on HPV?
Post-debate, she went too far.

409 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:10:14pm

It’s a ‘liberty interest’ that ‘violates liberty?’

That woman has no business participating in government. She’s so goddamned stupid.

410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:11:13pm

re: #405 darthstar

Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend.

411 darthstar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:11:42pm

Heh…watching Mathews talk to Buchanan and another wing-nut, and he came as close to doing a face-palm as I’ve ever seen as he sighed with resignation at the stupidity the two men exhibit.

412 darthstar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:11:51pm

re: #410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend.

You eat cake.

413 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:11:54pm

re: #408 wrenchwench

Even the despicable Limbaugh had this in his daily email:

Perry was right in the first place. He needs to stop apologizing to the ignorant Republican Party base. They need to get educated.

414 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:12:22pm

re: #410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend. Please say I’m the friend.

yikes

415 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:12:26pm

re: #412 darthstar

You eat cake.

Pie is liquid cake.
-Jim Gaffigan

416 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:13:31pm

re: #399 windsagio

Was just rereading Bill Mauldin’s second book (Up Front), its always scary how much things stay the same.

The only difference between now and 1947 is we can see the result of 60 years of subverting the New Deal.

re: #401 Gus 802

Here you go:

Thank God that past leaders had the sense of mind and belief in liberty not to force people to receive the smallpox vaccine. Can you imagine how many people might have been injured or even crippled for life from such efforts? But we live in America, where smallpox just naturally died out in 1897, through no organized effort at all!

///

417 McSpiff  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:13:43pm

HoosierHoops is an Oklahoma lizard right? I’m taking a trip to the state for work in November, no idea what part of the state yet. If its near any of you I’m tracking y’all down!

…mean that in the nicest possible way.

418 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:13:56pm

re: #413 Gus 802

Perry was right in the first place. He needs to stop apologizing to the ignorant Republican Party base. They need to get educated.

They don’t want to be educated, that’s the problem.

419 darthstar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:14:59pm

re: #417 McSpiff

HoosierHoops is an Oklahoma lizard right? I’m taking a trip to the state for work in November, no idea what part of the state yet. If its near any of you I’m tracking y’all down!

…mean that in the nicest possible way.

He’s easy to find…just look for the line of co-eds from OU lined up outside his house waiting their turn inside “the Hoops”…

420 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:16:08pm

re: #416 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

re: #401 Gus 802

Thank God that past leaders had the sense of mind and belief in liberty not to force people to receive the smallpox vaccine. Can you imagine how many people might have been injured or even crippled for life from such efforts? But we live in America, where smallpox just naturally died out in 1897, through no organized effort at all!

///

And influenza. And polio. And measles.

421 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:17:05pm

Oh crap. Some idiot with a BBQ in the parking lot. Just poured a ton of charcoal starter on it.

This place is a dump.

422 McSpiff  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:17:06pm

re: #419 darthstar

He’s easy to find…just look for the line of co-eds from OU lined up outside his house waiting their turn inside “the Hoops”…

I’m sold.

423 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:17:50pm

re: #420 Gus 802

And influenza. And polio. And measles.

Well, obviously influenza hasn’t died out. But we all know that the yearly flu shots are, in reality, all part of a grand government plan to obtain our DNA samples so as to build a national database for the purposes of controlling our genetic destiny! It’s the Illuminati, I tell you!

///(Okay, I’ve played too much Deus Ex today)

424 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:18:35pm

re: #421 Gus 802

Hotel? I’ve met a few hotel parking lot grillers in my day. Normally pretty interesting characters to strike up a conversation with.

425 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:18:36pm

re: #423 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, obviously influenza hasn’t died out. But we all know that the yearly flu shots are, in reality, all part of a grand government plan to obtain our DNA samples so as to build a national database for the purposes of controlling our genetic destiny! It’s the Illuminati, I tell you!

///(Okay, I’ve played too much Deus Ex today)

are you retired?

426 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:19:19pm

re: #354 darthstar

Just got an email from my dad about Ollie North testifying about wanting to kill Osama bin Laden in 1987, but that the Senator hearing his testimony, Al Gore, disagreed. That’s right…Al Gore is the reason for 9/11…or maybe it’s just a coincidence.

This proves AGW is a scam.

427 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:20:50pm

re: #425 albusteve

are you retired?

No, working part-time these days. Haven’t received any response recently on the few job applications I could bring myself to fill out online before I became a jibbering wreck. Used to be I could fill out a paper application in 15 minutes. Now takes me 3x that just to put in one online application.

428 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:20:51pm

re: #424 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hotel? I’ve met a few hotel parking lot grillers in my day. Normally pretty interesting characters to strike up a conversation with.

so have I…you go with the flow…I got pretty drunk one time with a bunch of utility workers, partying and cooking in a parking lot…you get what you pay for

429 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:21:17pm

Thing that bugs me about conservatives and Gore, is that 9x/10 he’s their best friend. In the long run Clinton/Gore was better for the rich than the Reagan/Bush style smash’n’grab.

430 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:23:15pm

re: #395 Gus 802

Here it is:

Bachmann questions safety of HPV vaccine for girls

I heard the one on CNN.

She is even crazier than she looks.
And that is an achievement!

431 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:24:10pm

re: #429 windsagio

Thing that bugs me about conservatives and Gore, is that 9x/10 he’s their best friend. In the long run Clinton/Gore was better for the rich than the Reagan/Bush style smash’n’grab.

You might need to elucidate that one a bit…

432 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:26:51pm

Think I’ll take a shower. BRB

433 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:26:58pm

re: #299 imp_62

What are you reading?

Edmund Morris’ third volume on Theodore Roosevelt, _Colonel Roosevelt_. About half-way through and WW1 just started.

434 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:27:32pm

re: #395 Gus 802

I probably would’ve done better with the vaccine if it hadn’t come out at about the time that the movie “Children of Men” came out. And I had a daughter right at vaccine age, also.

She got the vaccine, but it really freaked me out.

435 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:28:01pm

re: #431 wrenchwench

The clinton/gore did the following:

1) They kept taxes low, esp. for businesses
2) They spent a ton on the military
3) They did nothing of real import on social issues (altho they sometimes talked a good game)

It was a lot of talk about reforming things, helping the underclasses, etc etc, but a whole lot of nothing in impact. Classic opiate of the masses crap.

Reagan/Bush just dumped as much money into large corporations and the rich as quickly as they could. More possible blowback, you know?

436 Renaissance_Man  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:29:20pm

re: #434 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I probably would’ve done better with the vaccine if it hadn’t come out at about the time that the movie “Children of Men” came out. And I had a daughter right at vaccine age, also.

She got the vaccine, but it really freaked me out.

I have three patients this week alone who will soon die from metastatic genital cancer. One is 27. This is a disease that is essentially entirely preventable by circumcision and HPV vaccines. Do not worry, you did the right thing.

437 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:29:45pm

re: #435 windsagio

The clinton/gore did the following:

1) They kept taxes low, esp. for businesses
2) They spent a ton on the military
3) They did nothing of real import on social issues (altho they sometimes talked a good game)

It was a lot of talk about reforming things, helping the underclasses, etc etc, but a whole lot of nothing in impact. Classic opiate of the masses crap.

Reagan/Bush just dumped as much money into large corporations and the rich as quickly as they could. More possible blowback, you know?

OK, I see what you’re saying. I didn’t see much blowback, though.

438 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:30:18pm

re: #434 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My gal is going to get the vaccine soon as her introduction into the feminine world of having to see a Gynecologist.

439 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:31:11pm

re: #436 Renaissance_Man

Oh, I got over it. I knew it was the right thing.

But I had a weird feeling about it.

440 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:31:13pm

re: #432 Gus 802

Hope you have shower shoes?

441 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:32:13pm

re: #437 wrenchwench

OK, I see what you’re saying. I didn’t see much blowback, though.

Heh, you’re right. Well except for the economy collapsing, rising poverty, etc. Don’t look at the man behind the curtain!

442 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:36:02pm

re: #421 Gus 802

Well at least he isn’t lighting it like this.

Youtube Video

443 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:38:57pm

re: #442 Bubblehead II

Well at least he isn’t lighting it like this.

[Video]

Purdue University had a sub-site where guys were doing that sort of thing. They used a cheap Weber grill once and basically melted it. They also were going for ready-to-cook coals in five seconds.

444 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:40:08pm

re: #441 windsagio

Heh, you’re right. Well except for the economy collapsing, rising poverty, etc. Don’t look at the man behind the curtain!

your elected presidents and vp’s did virtually nothing…you have and continue to dismiss congress…if they and the electorate want to drool over and worship presidents that’s their business, but they don’t write or pass legislation…and in BO’s case, have zero background in economics

445 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:41:17pm

Took a shower. Ahhhh. Plus I “made the call.” Looks like I have a place to stay for at least two weeks. :)

446 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:42:02pm

re: #444 albusteve

‘your’?

I think they were both of our presidents ;)

447 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:43:34pm

re: #446 windsagio

‘your’?

I think they were both of our presidents ;)

your examples…presidents are outspoken chumps that submit to congress…BO is getting a mass dose right now

448 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:43:40pm

re: #421 Gus 802

Oh crap. Some idiot with a BBQ in the parking lot. Just poured a ton of charcoal starter on it.

This place is a dump.

sound familiar, windsagio? :D

449 darthstar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:45:13pm

Tweety talking to some idiot teabagger…”If 10% is good enough for god on Sunday it’s good enough for the government on Monday.”

You fucking idiot. That 10% solution is what the churches think they can get out of you without breaking a sweat. And they probably get a lot more than that in extra fund-raising efforts…you fucking mark.

450 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:46:18pm

re: #443 oaktree

Purdue University had a sub-site where guys were doing that sort of thing. They used a cheap Weber grill once and basically melted it. They also were going for ready-to-cook coals in five seconds.

Be interesting to see how fast you could get them going by just injecting pure O2 (gas) from the bottom.

451 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:47:31pm

re: #449 darthstar

Tweety talking to some idiot teabagger…”If 10% is good enough for god on Sunday it’s good enough for the government on Monday.”

You fucking idiot. That 10% solution is what the churches think they can get out of you without breaking a sweat. And they probably get a lot more than that in extra fund-raising efforts…you fucking mark.

Really the idiot is comparing church donations to government policy?? What a dummy.

452 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:49:17pm

Hi.

453 Renaissance_Man  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:49:25pm

I gotta say, I’ve been watching the political events of the past couple of days in the limited time I have, and I’m getting seriously disturbed now.

I was disturbed when nobody batted an eye that elected officials were caught baldly conspiring with robber barons. I was disturbed when an honourable law enforcement officer was attacked for doing nothing more than condemning intolerance.

Yesterday I drove past young college kids standing on a street corner loudly shouting that we should be intolerant because God himself is intolerant. ( I am neither paraphrasing nor exaggerating.) Yesterday I saw a live audience loudly cheering for the death of someone who’d done nothing wrong.

William F. Buckley once described himself as standing athwart history yelling ‘Stop!’ Now, nobody will simply stand up and declare that this is wrong. And if they did, nobody would see.

That’s wrong.

454 darthstar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:50:21pm

re: #451 HappyWarrior

Really the idiot is comparing church donations to government policy?? What a dummy.

Mathews should have said, “You’re a fucking idiot! Get off my show!”

Then, when the right-wing protested and demanded an apology, he should say, “I’m sorry I hurt that fucking idiot’s feelings…but she doesn’t belong in a minivan taking kids to school, let alone serving in our government.”

Note: further demands for apology probably would drop off after the next round or two.

455 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:52:07pm

re: #452 b_sharp

Hi.

not quite, but getting there

456 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:55:12pm

re: #455 albusteve

not quite, but getting there

I ran out of Scotch.

457 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:55:25pm

re: #453 Renaissance_Man

I gotta say, I’ve been watching the political events of the past couple of days in the limited time I have, and I’m getting seriously disturbed now.

I was disturbed when nobody batted an eye that elected officials were caught baldly conspiring with robber barons. I was disturbed when an honourable law enforcement officer was attacked for doing nothing more than condemning intolerance.

Yesterday I drove past young college kids standing on a street corner loudly shouting that we should be intolerant because God himself is intolerant. ( I am neither paraphrasing nor exaggerating.) Yesterday I saw a live audience loudly cheering for the death of someone who’d done nothing wrong.

William F. Buckley once described himself as standing athwart history yelling ‘Stop!’ Now, nobody will simply stand up and declare that this is wrong. And if they did, nobody would see.

That’s wrong.

of you’re gonna be a political dog, you gonna have to take a beating here and there…as for me, yawn

458 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:57:02pm

re: #457 albusteve

of you’re gonna be a political dog, you gonna have to take a beating here and there…as for me, yawn

With all the stuff that makes you yawn, how do you stay awake?

459 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:57:05pm

re: #456 b_sharp

I ran out of Scotch.

I drink for effect…I like potato juice but anything handy will do….my style is no style

460 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:57:19pm

re: #448 WindUpBird

Only if its a goat.

461 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:58:12pm

re: #458 b_sharp

With all the stuff that makes you yawn, how do you stay awake?

reading these posts, it’s very difficult, I admit….in fact you should change your nic to ‘Sandman’

462 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:58:47pm

re: #459 albusteve

I drink for effect…I like potato juice but anything handy will do…my style is no style

We don’t do Vodka here. I’m going to go steal some of my wife’s rum.
Then make out like a pirate.

463 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:58:59pm

Videos in the threads work fine, but in the Spy it’s telling me I need to download Flash.

464 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:59:18pm

re: #452 b_sharp

Hi.

ASL?

//

465 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:00:03pm

re: #461 albusteve

reading these posts, it’s very difficult, I admit…in fact you should change your nic to ‘Sandman’

I kind of like Metallica, but I’m going to change my nic to ‘BeaverButt’.

466 engineer cat  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:01:03pm

re: #453 Renaissance_Man

I gotta say, I’ve been watching the political events of the past couple of days in the limited time I have, and I’m getting seriously disturbed now.

I was disturbed when nobody batted an eye that elected officials were caught baldly conspiring with robber barons. I was disturbed when an honourable law enforcement officer was attacked for doing nothing more than condemning intolerance.

Yesterday I drove past young college kids standing on a street corner loudly shouting that we should be intolerant because God himself is intolerant. ( I am neither paraphrasing nor exaggerating.) Yesterday I saw a live audience loudly cheering for the death of someone who’d done nothing wrong.

William F. Buckley once described himself as standing athwart history yelling ‘Stop!’ Now, nobody will simply stand up and declare that this is wrong. And if they did, nobody would see.

That’s wrong.

william f. buckley made a living exhibiting wit and grace while getting run over by history

467 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:02:55pm

re: #466 engineer dog

Yeah and calling people ‘queers’ on national television.

Also, threatening to beat people up.

well one person.

Its always interesting when people like that let their real (fascist) selves out.

468 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:03:09pm

re: #464 Gus 802

ASL?

//

Really old, infrequently and behind the Walmart.

469 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:03:27pm

re: #465 b_sharp

I kind of like Metallica, but I’m going to change my nic to ‘BeaverButt’.

speaking of Metallica and hooch
my favorite Metallica tune….a cover tho
Youtube Video

470 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:04:14pm

re: #467 windsagio

Yeah and calling people ‘queers’ on national television.

Also, threatening to beat people up.

well one person.

watch out for the handbag from the left

471 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:05:18pm

re: #469 albusteve

speaking of Metallica and hooch
my favorite Metallica tune…a cover tho

[Video]

I actually like their version.

472 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:05:59pm

Evening, Honcos!

Thanks for keeping us in mind during the fires down here that have burned out 1,600 families.

And a great big “Not thanks” to the R’s in DC.

A great local violin/fiddle player (All genres!) and a dear friend and associate of SWMBOs’ returns to his home in Bastrop to discover the worst:

statesman.com

Heartbreaking. Be sure to read the last ‘graph to understand how sweet a guy this is.

473 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:06:08pm

re: #471 b_sharp

I actually like their version.

kicks heathen ass

474 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:06:42pm

Anywho. Saw Bonneville Salt Flats. Stopped inside Salt Lake City and walked around Temple Square. Today I took a backroad and went through Medicine Bow National Forrest. Got pics during the stops.

475 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:07:35pm

For you College sports fans. The NCAA decision regarding BSU.

476 engineer cat  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:07:35pm

re: #467 windsagio

Yeah and calling people ‘queers’ on national television.

Also, threatening to beat people up.

well one person.

now you are straining my un googled memory - do i recall correctly this being about him having a little tiff with gore vidal?

477 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:07:57pm

In the Westheimer and Higway 6 area of Houston there is still a grass fire burning in the park resivoir area. Am up loading pics to my flickr account now. Sucker got big fast.

478 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:09:22pm

re: #474 Gus 802

Anywho. Saw Bonneville Salt Flats. Stopped inside Salt Lake City and walked around Temple Square. Today I took a backroad and went through Medicine Bow National Forrest. Got pics during the stops.

You gotta share, bro.

479 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:09:28pm

re: #474 Gus 802

Anywho. Saw Bonneville Salt Flats. Stopped inside Salt Lake City and walked around Temple Square. Today I took a backroad and went through Medicine Bow National Forrest. Got pics during the stops.

in all my travels, if I never go back to SLC, it will be too soon…awful place, dead, no spirit…but the skiing up above is world class….if I want a Bloody Mary at 9am, so what?…if I ever had feelings like I was Satan it was at that fucking town

480 HoosierHoops  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:09:57pm

re: #417 McSpiff

HoosierHoops is an Oklahoma lizard right? I’m taking a trip to the state for work in November, no idea what part of the state yet. If its near any of you I’m tracking y’all down!

…mean that in the nicest possible way.

My company transfered me here..I live right by OU in Norman…You would be welcome here. We could hang out at Campus Corner

481 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:10:03pm

re: #472 austin_blue

Evening, Honcos!

Thanks for keeping us in mind during the fires down here that have burned out 1,600 families.

And a great big “Not thanks” to the R’s in DC.

A great local violin/fiddle player (All genres!) and a dear friend and associate of SWMBOs’ returns to his home in Bastrop to discover the worst:

[Link: www.statesman.com…]

Heartbreaking. Be sure to read the last ‘graph to understand how sweet a guy this is.

Oh, man!
Hell on Earth.

482 darthstar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:10:47pm

re: #480 HoosierHoops

My company transfered me here..I live right by OU in Norman…You would be welcome here. We could hang out at Campus Corner

Kick him down a co-ed or two…it’s only the neighborly thing to do.

483 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:11:23pm

re: #479 albusteve

in all my travels, if I never go back to SLC, it will be too soon…awful place, dead, no spirit…but the skiing up above is world class…if I want a Bloody Mary at 9am, so what?…if I ever had feelings like I was Satan it was at that fucking town

Meh. It’s their gig so I kind of enjoyed the visit. Otherwise I wouldn’t have stopped right? The architecture is rather nice. They drive pretty damn fast too.

484 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:11:36pm

re: #480 HoosierHoops

My company transfered me here..I live right by OU in Norman…You would be welcome here. We could hang out at Campus Corner

or go out on the prairie and show him a cow….
DRINK!

485 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:12:09pm

BRB Let me organize some pics.

486 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:12:39pm

re: #476 engineer dog

now you are straining my un googled memory - do i recall correctly this being about him having a little tiff with gore vidal?

LOL, I hadn’t seen this before. What a couple of effete wankers:

Youtube Video

487 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:12:53pm

re: #483 Gus 802

Meh. It’s their gig so I kind of enjoyed the visit. Otherwise I wouldn’t have stopped right? The architecture is rather nice. They drive pretty damn fast too.

yeah, it’s where the road goes, so you take it…
excuse me if I sound too harsh

488 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:15:04pm

re: #476 engineer dog

re: #486 goddamnedfrank

yes, totally… so freakin’ hilarious!

required watching imo. See the upper class in action :D

489 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:16:13pm

re: #486 goddamnedfrank

LOL, I hadn’t seen this before. What a couple of effete wankers:

[Video]

Ali/Frasier
tough guys

490 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:18:47pm

re: #488 windsagio

re: #486 goddamnedfrank

yes, totally… so freakin’ hilarious!

required watching imo. See the upper class in action :D

not sure how either represents a class…it’s not they are a flash mob…just a couple of sissies that don’t like each other….much else is a stretch

491 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:19:01pm

re: #488 windsagio

re: #486 goddamnedfrank

yes, totally… so freakin’ hilarious!

required watching imo. See the upper class in action :D

Martini swizzles at dawn!

492 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:19:58pm

re: #399 windsagio

Was just rereading Bill Mauldin’s second book (Up Front), its always scary how much things stay the same.

The only difference between now and 1947 is we can see the result of 60 years of subverting the New Deal.

That is a great book. One of my all time favorites. It never fails to make me laugh.

493 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:20:11pm

re: #490 albusteve

now you’re being contrary. They’re both so stereotypical east coast elite it makes your teeth hurt.

And they’re both proud of it to boot.

494 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:20:23pm

re: #490 albusteve

not sure how either represents a class…it’s not they are a flash mob…just a couple of sissies that don’t like each other…much else is a stretch

It’s their bullshit Ivy League affectations old chum.

495 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:20:55pm

re: #491 goddamnedfrank

Martini swizzles at dawn!

Buckley…the ‘Fighting Typewriter’

496 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:22:05pm

re: #494 goddamnedfrank

It’s their bullshit Ivy League affectations old chum.

yes, I love it

497 windsagio  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:22:53pm

Best part is ol’ Will getting all macho. You can feel Vidal’s smirk coming down through the years.

498 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:26:34pm

re: #449 darthstar

Tweety talking to some idiot teabagger…”If 10% is good enough for god on Sunday it’s good enough for the government on Monday.”

You fucking idiot. That 10% solution is what the churches think they can get out of you without breaking a sweat. And they probably get a lot more than that in extra fund-raising efforts…you fucking mark.

I think that less than 30% of folks give ten percent. Of course, 84.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

499 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:33:02pm

re: #498 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think that less than 30% of folks give ten percent. Of course, 84.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

it all adds up to big money, like the Mob….remember Jimmy Bakkers $2k haircuts?…neither do I

500 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:34:16pm

Link to Houston fire at my flickr page.flickr.com

501 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:36:12pm

re: #500 dell*nix

Whoa.
-Keanu Reeves

502 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:36:19pm

OK. Here’s one…

Image: SLC-001.jpg

503 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:36:36pm

re: #449 darthstar

Tweety talking to some idiot teabagger…”If 10% is good enough for god on Sunday it’s good enough for the government on Monday.”

You fucking idiot. That 10% solution is what the churches think they can get out of you without breaking a sweat. And they probably get a lot more than that in extra fund-raising efforts…you fucking mark.

I heard that. I don’t know what the numbers are but I’m pretty damn sure that the average churchgoer can’t afford to donate 10% of their after tax income.

504 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:37:06pm

Whiskey In The Jar
Dubliners
Youtube Video

505 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:38:12pm

re: #503 Naso Tang

I heard that. I don’t know what the numbers are but I’m pretty damn sure that the average churchgoer can’t afford to donate 10% of their after tax income.

ask yourself…what price salvation?

506 engineer cat  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:39:43pm

re: #449 darthstar

Tweety talking to some idiot teabagger…”If 10% is good enough for god on Sunday it’s good enough for the government on Monday.”

You fucking idiot. That 10% solution is what the churches think they can get out of you without breaking a sweat. And they probably get a lot more than that in extra fund-raising efforts…you fucking mark.

what really annoys me are the repeated assertions that hiring people and paying them money to do things does not constitute “creating jobs”

leno put it in a nutshell last night when he said that first, perry says that government can’t create jobs, and then right after that explains how he would create jobs

507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:39:47pm

The book I’m listening to right now is the first book of the “Strain” trilogy by Guillermo del Toro with Chuck Hogan. So far? Pretty interesting ride.

Don’t like scary movies, but I loves me some creepy books.

508 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:41:40pm

re: #507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Have you ever read Dan Simmon’s “Carrion Comfort”? One of the best horror books ever.

“Dan Simmons gives me nightmares” — Stephen King.

509 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:42:00pm

Another…

Image: SLC-002.jpg

510 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:42:52pm

Human interest story of the day.

// They must of been Democrats given last nights debate and the let him die applause.

511 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:43:46pm

re: #507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The book I’m listening to right now is the first book of the “Strain” trilogy by Guillermo del Toro with Chuck Hogan. So far? Pretty interesting ride.

Don’t like scary movies, but I loves me some creepy books.

“I put it ‘The Shining) in the freezer”. Who said that?

512 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:44:18pm

re: #507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The book I’m listening to right now is the first book of the “Strain” trilogy by Guillermo del Toro with Chuck Hogan. So far? Pretty interesting ride.

Don’t like scary movies, but I loves me some creepy books.

studies have shown that increased creepy elevates the appetite, especially for baked goods…no one knows why yet

513 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:44:32pm

re: #508 Obdicut

Ooh! Woo hoo!

It’s officially on the list now!

514 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:46:25pm

re: #452 b_sharp

Hi.

How’s your shortness of breath, etc.?

515 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:46:50pm

re: #510 Bubblehead II

I see among the names of people rescuing him are a Lebanese dude named Sharif and a Ghanaian named Odei.

Obviously this is some sort of secret shariah plot.

516 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:46:51pm

re: #505 albusteve

ask yourself…what price salvation?

I asked. I was told it wasn’t for sale.

517 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:47:03pm

re: #511 prairiefire

Used my google-fu. Funny.

518 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:47:17pm

re: #513 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Warning, it’s a real horror book. Good people die in bad ways. It gets you in the gut.

519 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:48:09pm

re: #516 Naso Tang

I asked. I was told it wasn’t for sale.

heh…I’d rather do Disney World than be saved

520 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:50:57pm

re: #518 Obdicut

Warning, it’s a real horror book. Good people die in bad ways. It gets you in the gut.

LOL!

521 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:54:13pm

re: #515 Obdicut

I see among the names of people rescuing him are a Lebanese dude named Sharif and a Ghanaian named Odei.

Obviously this is some sort of secret shariah plot.

/// And they will use this to further their nefarious schemes as well as taking away a job a “true American” could be doing.

I wish the sarc was true. But there will be those who will believe this, regardless that those people (all) risked their lives to save a fellow man.

Just as they disregard those who risked and gave their lives on 9-11.

Sad doesn’t even come close to covering it.

522 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:56:17pm

Quick and dirty panorama. You’ll need to maximize your window for the full effect…

Image: Bonneville-Salt-Flats-001.jpg

523 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:02:54pm

re: #522 Gus 802

Quick and dirty panorama. You’ll need to maximize your window for the full effect…

Image: Bonneville-Salt-Flats-001.jpg

Nice pic!

524 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:03:02pm

re: #522 Gus 802

Quick and dirty panorama. You’ll need to maximize your window for the full effect…

Image: Bonneville-Salt-Flats-001.jpg

VROOOMMMM

525 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:03:30pm

re: #521 Bubblehead II

It does restore my faith in humanity when I see moments like that. Humans are crazy. Sometimes crazy good.

Here’s another that gets me.

Youtube Video

526 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:04:09pm

re: #524 Varek Raith

VROOOMMM

Yeah, isn’t that were they tested all the super speed cars?

527 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:04:31pm

re: #524 Varek Raith

VROOOMMM

my thought too…
Craig Breedlove and all those guys

528 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:05:19pm

re: #526 prairiefire

Yeah, isn’t that were they tested all the super speed cars?

Spirit of America!

529 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:05:20pm

re: #522 Gus 802

Quick and dirty panorama. You’ll need to maximize your window for the full effect…

Image: Bonneville-Salt-Flats-001.jpg

I went across there with my brother back in the early 90s. It had rained recently and there was like 3” of water around for miles…

530 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:05:48pm

This was at the gas station I stopped at…

Image: Bonneville-Salt-Flats-002.jpg

531 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:06:25pm

re: #529 oaktree

I went across there with my brother back in the early 90s. It had rained recently and there was like 3” of water around for miles…

It sure was muddy. You see the salt and it looks dry but right underneath it’s really slippery.

532 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:06:34pm

re: #483 Gus 802

I actually liked SLC, though it was more of a stopover than to explore the city proper. Red Rock Brewing Co, some interesting architecture around Mormon Square, and caught a Salt Lake Bees game, which has one of the best backdrops in baseball - the Wasatch Mts catching the evening light.

The airport rocks for getting in and out, and I’ve used it for going to Bryce, Zion and Capitol Reef, as well as to Yellowstone and Grand Teton.

533 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:06:39pm

re: #530 Gus 802

This was at the gas station I stopped at…

Image: Bonneville-Salt-Flats-002.jpg

you were having fun…admit it

534 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:07:11pm

re: #531 Gus 802

It sure was muddy. You see the salt and it looks dry but right underneath it’s really slippery.

And that stuff is truly wonderful for a car underbody. Not.

535 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:07:32pm

re: #514 prairiefire

How’s your shortness of breath, etc.?

Hasn’t returned. The doc should be calling within a couple of days.

536 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:08:30pm

re: #533 albusteve

you were having fun…admit it

Yep. I made it a point to hit 100 MPH going down the access road. I was inspired.

537 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:09:22pm

re: #532 lawhawk

I actually liked SLC, though it was more of a stopover than to explore the city proper. Red Rock Brewing Co, some interesting architecture around Mormon Square, and caught a Salt Lake Bees game, which has one of the best backdrops in baseball - the Wasatch Mts catching the evening light.

The airport rocks for getting in and out, and I’ve used it for going to Bryce, Zion and Capitol Reef, as well as to Yellowstone and Grand Teton.

can’t ski Snowbird, Alta or Park City unless you pass through SLC…airports are cool

538 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:09:26pm

re: #525 Obdicut

We have our moments. It’s a shame that they get buried just as fast as they occure.

539 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:10:25pm

re: #536 Gus 802

Yep. I made it a point to hit 100 MPH going down the access road. I was inspired.

That’s a lot of pedalling.

540 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:10:26pm

re: #537 albusteve

The mrs doesn’t ski, and i missed my chance to ski - that ship sailed about 15 years ago when i stopped going (got too expensive and never kept up with the skills).

541 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:10:29pm

re: #530 Gus 802

This was at the gas station I stopped at…

Image: Bonneville-Salt-Flats-002.jpg

Fastest wheel driven car, as opposed to oxen.

542 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:11:47pm

re: #540 lawhawk

The mrs doesn’t ski, and i missed my chance to ski - that ship sailed about 15 years ago when i stopped going (got too expensive and never kept up with the skills).

If I want to get down a hill really fast, I don’t bother skiing, I just fall.

543 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:12:03pm

re: #541 prairiefire

Fastest wheel driven car, as opposed to oxen.

Yeah. Actually as opposed to jet or rocket powered.

544 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:14:36pm

Hey all!

How is the evening going?

545 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:15:40pm

re: #532 lawhawk

“The airport rocks for getting in and out, and I’ve used it for going to Bryce, Zion and Capitol Reef, as well as to Yellowstone and Grand Teton.”

The bar sucks. Especially when you have to walk from one end of the Airport to get to it. Specifically from Concourse E to Concourse A where the bar is located. Then the (higher) than normal prices.

546 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:15:50pm

re: #544 ggt

Hey all!

How is the evening going?

Meh. Nobody’s pissed off yet.

547 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:16:40pm

re: #540 lawhawk

The mrs doesn’t ski, and i missed my chance to ski - that ship sailed about 15 years ago when i stopped going (got too expensive and never kept up with the skills).

snow skiing is the Mother Of All Activities….nothing that I’ve ever done comes close…maybe sailing in heavy weather, scarier than any book you’ll ever read…but it’s different for everybody

548 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:16:49pm

re: #544 ggt

Hey all!

How is the evening going?

S’ok. You?

549 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:17:10pm

re: #536 Gus 802

Yep. I made it a point to hit 100 MPH going down the access road. I was inspired.

I do that leaving my driveway

550 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:18:07pm

re: #549 albusteve

I do that leaving my driveway

Long driveway or crazy powerful car?
Both?
:)

551 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:19:47pm

re: #548 prairiefire

S’ok. You?

Hangin’ in there. My back is still sore from yesterday’s Prolotherapy treatment, but much better. Should be good to go tomorrow.

Thanks for askin’!

552 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:19:57pm

re: #550 Varek Raith

Long driveway or crazy powerful car?
Both?
:)

in my mind anyway

553 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:20:03pm

Medicine Bow…

Image: Lake-Marie-at-Medicine-Bow.jpg

554 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:20:53pm

re: #544 ggt

Hey all!

How is the evening going?

Well since I am still drawing a mixture of O2/CO2/NO2/and whatevere else is in it into my lungs, I guess that so far it has been a good day. :-)

555 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:21:05pm

re: #553 Gus 802

Medicine Bow…

Image: Lake-Marie-at-Medicine-Bow.jpg

I spent a week one day in Medicine Bow, Wyoming

556 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:21:25pm

re: #554 Bubblehead II

Well since I am still drawing a mixture of O2/CO2/NO2/and whatevere else is in it into my lungs, I guess that so far it has been a good day. :-)

O2 is much better than O1!

557 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:21:41pm

re: #553 Gus 802

Medicine Bow…

Image: Lake-Marie-at-Medicine-Bow.jpg

Beautiful! I bet that makes you miss CO.

558 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:22:49pm

re: #550 Varek Raith

Long driveway or crazy powerful car?
Both?
:)

A 350ft drop just outside the door.

559 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:23:28pm

re: #558 b_sharp

A 350ft drop just outside the door.

That must have been some fun learning …

560 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:23:31pm

re: #556 ggt

O2 is much better than O1!

Waking up on the green side of the grass is also plus.

// Gasp! I used that ebil word. Green.

561 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:23:56pm

re: #560 Bubblehead II

Waking up on the green side of the grass is also plus.

// Gasp! I used that ebil word. Green.

It’s not easy being green!

562 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:24:33pm

re: #559 ggt

That must have been some fun learning …

Steve just had to spread his wings.

563 HoosierHoops  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:24:49pm

re: #540 lawhawk

The mrs doesn’t ski, and i missed my chance to ski - that ship sailed about 15 years ago when i stopped going (got too expensive and never kept up with the skills).

I flew once into SLC years ago..I was supposed to go there with my Boss and his wife for the weekend for a business thing..
I missed the plane.. I drove to Richmond..Took BART to Oakland and ended up late for the plane at the Terminal..I was in total panic at the gate as they pulled away..I was begging them to come back..I was finished.. I knew it..When you piss off your boss when you are Government worker..They won’t try to fire you.. They just make your life a living hell..
So I walk over to the bar..Slump down and order the biggest Bloody Mary they would sell me at 7am in Oakland…
Then over the intercom they tell me to report to the gate immediately..
Turns out they were ready to take off when they let on some old guy going somewhere else.. So they turn around the plane and let him off and let me on.. I have never seen so many ugly looks in my life when I walked to the back off the plane all smiles.. Passed my Boss and his wife and waved hi! I guess everybody thought they turned around the plane just for me..So I played the king in the back of the plane knowing a dodged a real bullet..
/excuse me..May I have another Bloody Mary?

564 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:24:58pm

re: #553 Gus 802

You’ve got me jonzing seriously for my next trip…. going to be doing Death Valley and Sequoia/Kings Canyon…

565 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:25:49pm

re: #561 ggt

It’s not easy being green!

I can’t believe you missed the shot.

Youtube Video

566 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:26:08pm

re: #557 prairiefire

Beautiful! I bet that makes you miss CO.

I’m back. Although this Motel6 makes me feel like running away. Oh well. It’s only one night.

567 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:26:09pm

I’m on my 5th and final treatment for my back “issue”. In order to receive treatment injections, one must be relaxed. Doc give an rx for 6 vicodin —to get you thru. So, I dutifully take my 1 pill 1/2 hour before treatment and the one script lasted the 3 treatments. Yesterday, I dutifully took my 1 pill 1/2 hour before treatment and 45 minutes later —no effects —NONE. I took another and barely got giddy.

Scary how fast tolerance can build.

568 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:26:16pm

re: #561 ggt

It’s not easy being green!

especially if you live in New Mexico…I visit up north and east and it’s too green…green everywhere, nothing but green…drives me crazy, can’t see more than a mile and it’s all just green…I’m a desert head

569 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:26:33pm

re: #562 b_sharp

Steve just had to spread his wings.

What does Varek do?

570 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:26:37pm

re: #562 b_sharp

Steve just had to spread his wings.

my halo floats

571 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:27:17pm

re: #565 Bubblehead II

I can’t believe you missed the shot.

[Video]

I was waiting to see who would pick-it-up. :)

572 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:27:40pm

re: #569 ggt

What does Varek do?

Levitate.

573 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:28:29pm

re: #564 lawhawk

You’ve got me jonzing seriously for my next trip… going to be doing Death Valley and Sequoia/Kings Canyon…

nice…I don’t think you’ll be disappointed…Cali is a beast

574 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:28:50pm

Another of Lake Marie…

Image: Lake-Marie-II.jpg

575 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:29:11pm

re: #570 albusteve

my halo floats

And you are attached to you halo by bungee cords.

576 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:30:11pm

re: #574 Gus 802

Another of Lake Marie…

Image: Lake-Marie-II.jpg

There’s a place I could live.

577 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:30:19pm

IMHO, this is one of the most beautiful places on Earth.

578 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:30:35pm

re: #574 Gus 802

Another of Lake Marie…

Image: Lake-Marie-II.jpg

looks like trout heaven…little salt, little pepper, little vodka

579 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:31:34pm

re: #578 albusteve

looks like trout heaven…little salt, little pepper, little vodka

okay, forget the salt and pepper…we’re pioneers

580 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:32:03pm

For anyone that is interested—there is a very rare coupon available for HOSTESS goodies. You have to ‘like’ them on facebook and then print the coupon.

I don’t do facebook coupons, but there are some hardcore Hostess junkies out there …

In case any Lizards are one of those junkies, I thought I’d share it.

581 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:32:23pm

re: #571 ggt

I was waiting to see who would pick-it-up. :)

:-)

582 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:32:30pm

re: #579 albusteve

okay, forget the salt and pepper…we’re pioneers

GARLIC?

I does grow wild you know .. .

583 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:33:36pm

re: #577 ggt

IMHO, this is one of the most beautiful places on Earth.

I spent several years trying to buy land in Kentucky….those folks in the eastern hills are hard core…brokers looked at us like we were aliens

584 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:33:59pm

That’s all for now. This laptop’s going a little crazy.

585 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:34:12pm

re: #566 Gus 802

I’m back. Although this Motel6 makes me feel like running away. Oh well. It’s only one night.

Yeah! Take a deep breath of pine scented air for me.

586 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:34:48pm

re: #582 ggt

GARLIC?

I does grow wild you know .. .

I’ve heard there is a wild vodka tree, but I’ve yet to find one

587 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:35:08pm

re: #580 ggt

Twinkies?

Youtube Video

588 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:35:37pm

re: #585 prairiefire

Yeah! Take a deep breath of pine scented air for me.

Oh you should have smelled it up there. Fresh air and you could really smell the pine trees. Nice. I took it slow and had the sunroof open. Glad I took the detour. Interstates are boring. Last time I was at Medicine Bow was many years ago. Back when I was 16 years old.

589 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:38:29pm

Yes, it’s been a year in These United States. And it’s only September. Next year, we have the election.

590 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:39:06pm

re: #583 albusteve

I spent several years trying to buy land in Kentucky…those folks in the eastern hills are hard core…brokers looked at us like we were aliens

Well, in there eyes, you are …

Different breed in KY. I know, My Dad is from Eastern KY!

591 HoosierHoops  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:39:20pm

re: #567 ggt

I’m on my 5th and final treatment for my back “issue”. In order to receive treatment injections, one must be relaxed. Doc give an rx for 6 vicodin —to get you thru. So, I dutifully take my 1 pill 1/2 hour before treatment and the one script lasted the 3 treatments. Yesterday, I dutifully took my 1 pill 1/2 hour before treatment and 45 minutes later —no effects —NONE. I took another and barely got giddy.

Scary how fast tolerance can build.

I’m sorry you are in pain.. Kind regards and best wishes!
Now I for one knows pain killers..Which is a bummer.. My first Knee injury was so bad the weight of a bed sheet was unbearable.. I screamed in pain..My infamous wrist injury..( I’ve told you all about that story ) Was maybe the most painful and I got lots of good pain killers…Pure Darvon in the old days rocked

592 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:39:37pm

re: #588 Gus 802

Oh you should have smelled it up there. Fresh air and you could really smell the pine trees. Nice. I took it slow and had the sunroof open. Glad I took the detour. Interstates are boring. Last time I was at Medicine Bow was many years ago. Back when I was 16 years old.

you did good…traveling the byways…there is still a shred of prewar America out there…or stuff close to it…after all what’s the point?…I’m heading north next month…4-5 days to get there…4-5 days coming back down…my precious heartbeats will be well spent

593 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:40:02pm

re: #587 lawhawk

Twinkies?

[Video]

A friend’s kid actually did the Twinkie Experiment. It has now been on his desk for over a year —not one change, no bugs …hahahaha

So, I guess it might survive nuclear disaster.

594 simoom  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:40:19pm

AP’s NY-09 special election returns should be showing up here for anyone who’s interested:
hosted.ap.org

The recent polling hasn’t been very encouraging, but you never know.

Also, NV-02 is here:
hosted.ap.org

The latter isn’t really competitive.

595 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:40:59pm

re: #591 HoosierHoops

I’m sorry you are in pain.. Kind regards and best wishes!
Now I for one knows pain killers..Which is a bummer.. My first Knee injury was so bad the weight of a bed sheet was unbearable.. I screamed in pain..My infamous wrist injury..( I’ve told you all about that story ) Was maybe the most painful and I got lots of good pain killers…Pure Darvon in the old days rocked

Thanks, it is a LOT better since I found this Doc. The injection pain doesn’t last and the other pain doesn’t come back.

596 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:42:09pm

re: #551 ggt

Hangin’ in there. My back is still sore from yesterday’s Prolotherapy treatment, but much better. Should be good to go tomorrow.

Thanks for askin’!

Good for you! We hit 105 again today…

597 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:42:18pm

“hemi” is a word on Words with Friends and Strangers.

heh!

598 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:42:22pm

re: #590 ggt

Well, in there eyes, you are …

Different breed in KY. I know, My Dad is from Eastern KY!

I really love it down there. but would never rock the boat…they don’t mind you passing through and I love them for their tradition..bought a mountaintop in Jamaica instead and now I’m afraid to go down there

599 darthstar  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:42:33pm

re: #530 Gus 802

This was at the gas station I stopped at…

Image: Bonneville-Salt-Flats-002.jpg

Nice…could you put a ski rack on it?

600 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:43:43pm

re: #598 albusteve

I really love it down there. but would never rock the boat…they don’t mind you passing through and I love them for their tradition..bought a mountaintop in Jamaica instead and now I’m afraid to go down there

smart move, I really wouldn’t recommend rockin’ the boat in those hills.

601 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:44:55pm

re: #600 ggt

smart move, I really wouldn’t recommend rockin’ the boat in those hills.

Damn…are those banjos I hear in the distance?

602 Gus  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:45:25pm

re: #592 albusteve

you did good…traveling the byways…there is still a shred of prewar America out there…or stuff close to it…after all what’s the point?…I’m heading north next month…4-5 days to get there…4-5 days coming back down…my precious heartbeats will be well spent

I was tempted to go up to Grand Teton and Yellowstone but really couldn’t afford it. It’s not too far from Denver though. Matter of finding the time again. Off season is always best though. No crowds.

603 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:45:39pm

re: #600 ggt

smart move, I really wouldn’t recommend rockin’ the boat in those hills.

ah, no…I’m not stupid and even have much in common, but that don’t count…very unique area

604 HoosierHoops  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:46:37pm

re: #595 ggt

Thanks, it is a LOT better since I found this Doc. The injection pain doesn’t last and the other pain doesn’t come back.

Pain Patches are great.. They come in 25, 50 or 100 mg strength..They last 3 days..And you know pretty much to put a new one on when you cramp in pure pain screaming out every bad word ever invented by man.. You learn to change out every 2 1/2 days.. Now never get the 100mg patches.. That stuff is so strong it’s like you are in a Yellow Submarine video all day.. *wink*

605 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:46:38pm

re: #599 darthstar

Nice…could you put a ski rack on it?

you missed the ski posts but I thought about you

606 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:47:34pm

re: #601 austin_blue

Damn…are those banjos I hear in the distance?

dueling banjos?

607 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:47:59pm

re: #604 HoosierHoops

Pain Patches are great.. They come in 25, 50 or 100 mg strength..They last 3 days..And you know pretty much to put a new one on when you cramp in pure pain screaming out every bad word ever invented by man.. You learn to change out every 2 1/2 days.. Now never get the 100mg patches.. That stuff is so strong it’s like you are in a Yellow Submarine video all day.. *wink*

Never got much relief from those.

Ice is my friend.

608 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:49:30pm

This is better.

609 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:49:48pm

re: #592 albusteve

Are you going to visit the mini pirate?

610 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:49:58pm

re: #590 ggt

Well, in there eyes, you are …

Different breed in KY. I know, My Dad is from Eastern KY!

I worked on UK/Corps of Engineers archaeology projects in the Big Sandy Valley for almost a year. The people (and the land) were cool, but screwed-over.

611 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:49:58pm

re: #602 Gus 802

I was tempted to go up to Grand Teton and Yellowstone but really couldn’t afford it. It’s not too far from Denver though. Matter of finding the time again. Off season is always best though. No crowds.

you will do it…this I know
once you have a lust for the land and the people, you cannot be denied if that’s what you want…you can truck up to Yellowstone and back on a shoestring…camp…get back out of the way

612 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:51:22pm

re: #609 prairiefire

Are you going to visit the mini pirate?

4 weeks…I Skype with him and he screams Pappy! when he sees me…what a rush…he’s learning to talk already

613 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:51:42pm

re: #604 HoosierHoops

My bestie with Pancreatic cancer is on a daily 50 mg Morphine patch. It’s a hell of a nasty cancer.

614 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:52:39pm

Devil Went Down to Georgia —Muppet Show.

615 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:54:23pm

MAIL!———————->

616 albusteve  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:55:04pm

re: #614 ggt

Devil Went Down to Georgia —Muppet Show.

that was way cool

617 danhenry1  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:58:40pm

OT
This tonight is Jackie Kennedy.
Unscrubbed, and open to all.
No wonder my mother back then, thought so highly of her.
My Mothers Maid of Honor was Luella Hennessy.
We always got the lowdown.

618 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 7:24:59pm

Significant Rise in HPV-Related Throat Cancer in Men

Philip and Joanne Keane, of Newtown, Conn., never thought twice about having their daughters immunized against strains of the human papillomavirus that could cause cervical cancer.

“I thought it [HPV] was a women-only disease, a virus only they should worry about,” said Philip Keane. But when Keane, 52, was diagnosed with stage 4 HPV-related throat cancer, the Keane’s decided their 12-year-old son should be vaccinated too.

“You don’t want them waking up in 20 or 30 years and finding out they have stage 4 throat cancer. That’s where I am now,” said Keane.

HPV appears to be linked to a rare but treatable form of throat cancer in men that’s on an uptick. If the trend continues, the annual occurrence of HPV-related oropharyngeal cancer among men will surpass that of cervical cancer among women by the year 2020, according to a study that will be presented this week at the American Society of Clinical Oncology’s annual scientific meeting.

According to researchers, in 2004 there were nearly 4,000 to 4,500 cases of HPV-related oropharynx cancer in men and women. The number of cases is expected to double to 8,500 by 2020, with the increase occurring primarily in men.

619 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 7:37:11pm

aaaaaah!

both are better than schmegma.

620 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 7:49:17pm

re: #607 ggt

Never got much relief from those.

Ice is my friend.

Frozen peas are reuseable ice bags!

621 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 7:56:17pm

re: #588 Gus 802

Oh you should have smelled it up there. Fresh air and you could really smell the pine trees. Nice. I took it slow and had the sunroof open. Glad I took the detour. Interstates are boring. Last time I was at Medicine Bow was many years ago. Back when I was 16 years old.

Going thru Estes and such as you get farther east? And are you working back down to I-70, or going to stay farther north and use I-80 or US-40?

If you do the latter the Green and Yampa valleys are generally nice to go through. I’ve been over to Vernal and Dinosaur a few times when visiting my brother-in-law (who lives near Craig.)

622 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 8:08:33pm

re: #59 Lidane

Back when I actually paid attention to whatever Malkin said, I read about the rumor that it was her husband writing most of the diatribes in her blog and in the books. The allegations were that Malkin was just a ethnic woman figurehead to make the diatribes “different” from all the same crap dished out by overprivileged white guys .. like her husband.

I’d like to enter her and Coulter in a Python-esque live writing competition, to see which one can write the craziest RW bullshit in the shortest time.

623 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 8:30:25pm

re: #184 aagcobb

He’s been drinking the same water as Matthew Vadum.

624 boxhead  Tue, Sep 13, 2011 10:16:36pm

I believe there will be a special place in hell for these far Right bastards…. Evil incarnate.

625 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Sep 14, 2011 2:48:50pm

re: #36 aagcobb

Or the churches…

626 JimmyTwoPeople  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:35:07am

I thought the democrats had the majority in the senate, so how did GOP block it?

627 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:52:06am

re: #626 JimmyTwoPeople

I thought the democrats had the majority in the senate, so how did GOP block it?

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