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1 Kragar  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:33:34pm
When fascism comes to America, it will come with 0% financing for six months from date of purchase.

— Stinky Beaumont

Yeah, but do you get gift points with each purchase?

2 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:50:50pm

What about green stamps? A prize in the box?

3 Off Colfax  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:53:41pm

re: #1 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yeah, but do you get gift points with each purchase?

Double points for gasoline purchases, and triple points for airfare.

4 Kragar  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:56:37pm

re: #3 Off Colfax

Double points for gasoline purchases, and triple points for airfare.

Eh, I'll just buy $1 coins from the US treasury, have them shipped to my house for free, then pay my bill with them before the interest hits and rack up my free points.

5 Lidane  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:56:43pm

Archer continues to be one of the funniest shows on TV. The new episode was awesome. :D

6 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:59:25pm

I am being the good mother tonight. I made my kids bento lunches for tomorrow.

7 laZardo  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:00:14pm

re: #1 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You get them redeemable in

GOOOLD!

8 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:05:09pm

re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Eh, I'll just buy $1 coins from the US treasury, have them shipped to my house for free, then pay my bill with them before the interest hits and rack up my free points.

Evil. I like it.

9 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:08:53pm

Last post:

I hadn't heard this one before.

10 Kragar  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:09:24pm

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

Evil. I like it.

How Frequent Fliers Exploit A Government Program To Get Free Trips

We recently reported on the the government's failed effort to persuade Americans to use dollar coins.

But the coins have found at least one group of fans: Travel enthusiasts who buy thousands of dollar coins with credit cards that award frequent-flier miles for purchases.

Once in possession of the coins — shipped to them by the government for free — they can deposit them into their bank accounts and pay off the credit card bills. The result: a free ticket to anywhere.

"We've used them to go on trips around the world," says Jane Liaw, a 35-year-old public health researcher and science writer in San Francisco. Liaw says she and her husband, who use a variety of tricks for earning miles, are planning trips to Greece and Turkey, "all on miles and points."

11 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:19:33pm

re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

How Frequent Fliers Exploit A Government Program To Get Free Trips

Filed under "Government Fuck-Ups".

It's a big file.

12 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:23:42pm

re: #11 Dark_Falcon

Filed under "Government Fuck-Ups".

It's a big file.

*flipping through file* Iran-Contra...Teapot Dome...Bay of Pigs...wait, what's this section labeled "USS Eldridge"? And this other one marked "Majestic 12"?

///

13 Four More Tears  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:24:01pm

re: #11 Dark_Falcon

Filed under "Government Fuck-Ups".

It's a big file.

Isn't that more of a credit card corporation fuck up?

14 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:24:11pm

OK, this policy makes no sense whatsoever:

A homeless Female Veteran has been denied shelter at the Los Angeles VA because she essentially did not answer the “right” questions. As a result, she was ordered off the VA premises (Veterans property) and forced to live on the public sidewalk outside the VA.

The fact that this happened over 9-11′s tenth anniversary weekend is reprehensible and a serious affront and abomination against all who have worn the Uniform in defense of our Nation.

It’s a known fact that the VA has an uncompromising policy dictating that a Veteran must be an alcoholic or drug addict, otherwise he or she will not be provided shelter on Veterans property.

15 freetoken  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:27:20pm

re: #11 Dark_Falcon

Filed under "Government Fuck-Ups".

Rather, it seems the airlines are the ones footing the bill here.

16 Four More Tears  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:29:15pm

re: #15 freetoken

Rather, it seems the airlines are the ones footing the bill here.

How so? Don't the CC companies pay them? I'm confused...

17 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:29:26pm

Orac of Scienceblogs does a wrap-up of Michelle Bachmann's self-immolation with Burning Anti-Vaxxer Stupid. One thing he notes is how much fire she's gotten from the right-wing for her rants against vaccines. Even folks like Instapundit are going after her for this. From my reading, Bachmann just gave any current or future electoral foe a club to her with.

18 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:32:39pm

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

Orac of Scienceblogs does a wrap-up of Michelle Bachmann's self-immolation with Burning Anti-Vaxxer Stupid. One thing he notes is how much fire she's gotten from the right-wing for her rants against vaccines. Even folks like Instapundit are going after her for this. From my reading, Bachmann just gave any current or future electoral foe a club to her with.

Yeah, she thought she was gonna come out sittin' pretty on that, making it an "individual rights" argument that made Perry look like some power-hungry dictator. Instead, he comes out looking (at least on the surface) like a reasonable leader, while she looks like a kook pushing conspiracy theories.

And to think we've got at least 3 more months of all this before the first primaries begin. Think she'll succeed in totally self-destructing before then?

19 freetoken  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:36:15pm

re: #16 JasonA

How so? Don't the CC companies pay them? I'm confused...

It would be the promotional effort of an airline company, say UAL, to get credit card companies to offer the deal. Indeed, UAL offers their own branded credit cards to attract people to use those cards. I get offers from UAL all the time to sign up.

20 Four More Tears  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:38:07pm

re: #19 freetoken

It would be the promotional effort of an airline company, say UAL, to get credit card companies to offer the deal. Indeed, UAL offers their own branded credit cards to attract people to use those cards. I get offers from UAL all the time to sign up.

Ah. Though I think DF may be a little right. These credit card purchases do result in the companies getting a small percentage of the sale, and the article claims they're offering free shipping, which on coins is a pretty hefty sum.

21 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:40:45pm

re: #18 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, she thought she was gonna come out sittin' pretty on that, making it an "individual rights" argument that made Perry look like some power-hungry dictator. Instead, he comes out looking (at least on the surface) like a reasonable leader, while she looks like a kook pushing conspiracy theories.

And to think we've got at least 3 more months of all this before the first primaries begin. Think she'll succeed in totally self-destructing before then?

Yes. Bachmann isn't the type to recognize this for the defeat it is. She'll think everything is fine and keep right on charging at Perry to no effect but to make herself look crazy.

The really sick part was what Sarah Palin of all people reminded the FNC audience after the debate: Bachmann had a good angle of attack on the issue of cronyism, where there are serious questions about Rick Perry. But instead of pursuing that sane angle, she made a sharp turn onto Nutcase Avenue and ended up with her words as crazy as her eyes.

22 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:42:22pm

re: #18 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, she thought she was gonna come out sittin' pretty on that, making it an "individual rights" argument that made Perry look like some power-hungry dictator.

Lol suddenly miss pro life started babbling the rhetoric of "choice".

Stupid bigot.

Instead, he comes out looking (at least on the surface) like a reasonable leader, while she looks like a kook pushing conspiracy theories.

And to think we've got at least 3 more months of all this before the first primaries begin. Think she'll succeed in totally self-destructing before then?

No. Her socon constituents really are that dumb. She'll eventually flame out but that's only when they get distracted by the next shiny object.

23 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:44:03pm

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

Bachmann had a good angle of attack on the issue of cronyism, where there are serious questions about Rick Perry.

Doesn't matter. People will be stupid enough to vote for him, regardless. It's not a constituency that values questioning authority.

24 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:46:04pm

re: #23 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Doesn't matter. People will be stupid enough to vote for him, regardless. It's not a constituency that values questioning authority.

I actually think a good bit better of Rick Perry after watching that debate. I still intend to vote for Romney in the primary, but I can now see myself voting for Perry in the general election if he wins. I've by no means made up my mind, but I'm more favorable to Perry than I was.

25 laZardo  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:49:50pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

I will never "think any better" of a man that had an innocent man executed.

26 Kragar  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:50:25pm

re: #23 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Doesn't matter. People will be stupid enough to vote for him, regardless. It's not a constituency that values questioning authority.

How can you question him with hair like that?

27 Kragar  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:50:58pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

I actually think a good bit better of Rick Perry after watching that debate. I still intend to vote for Romney in the primary, but I can now see myself voting for Perry in the general election if he wins. I've by no means made up my mind, but I'm more favorable to Perry than I was.

You just like magical powers in a leader.

28 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:51:10pm

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

Yes. Bachmann isn't the type to recognize this for the defeat it is. She'll think everything is fine and keep right on charging at Perry to no effect but to make herself look crazy.

The really sick part was what Sarah Palin of all people reminded the FNC audience after the debate: Bachmann had a good angle of attack on the issue of cronyism, where there are serious questions about Rick Perry. But instead of pursuing that sane angle, she made a sharp turn onto Nutcase Avenue and ended up with her words as crazy as her eyes.

That's the cosmic joke it all, that Sarah's got a better political head on her shoulders than Bachmann, but lacks the same sort of conviction to see things through. I honestly believe that, had she taken a presidential run seriously, and not as a means to continue milking the rubes, she could have been at least a contender. May not have won the nomination, but she'd given the eventual winner a real run for his/her money.

Instead, she's slowly burning out, seemingly relegated to being a voice on FNC. And Bachmann's practically destined to either flame out spectacularly, Dean-style, or slowly flicker and fade into nothingness.

29 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:56:24pm

re: #28 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

That's the cosmic joke it all, that Sarah's got a better political head on her shoulders than Bachmann, but lacks the same sort of conviction to see things through. I honestly believe that, had she taken a presidential run seriously, and not as a means to continue milking the rubes, she could have been at least a contender. May not have won the nomination, but she'd given the eventual winner a real run for his/her money.

Instead, she's slowly burning out, seemingly relegated to being a voice on FNC. And Bachmann's practically destined to either flame out spectacularly, Dean-style, or slowly flicker and fade into nothingness.

She who hesitates is lost. But even if Sarah Palin fades away, she won't be remembered as a lunatic, as Bachmann will be.

30 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:57:03pm

And now I need to get to bed. Sleep well, all.

31 laZardo  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:02:57pm
32 Alexzander  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:05:41pm

re: #31 laZardo

...so I'm apparently solving math problems out of high school textbooks in my spare time.

I cant tell from that website whether the purpose is to facilitate plagiarism or co-operative learning or both.

33 Lidane  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:06:55pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

I actually think a good bit better of Rick Perry after watching that debate.

Live with him as your governor for a while. You'll change your mind VERY quickly.

There is absolutely nothing good about putting Rick Perry in charge of anything.

34 laZardo  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:06:56pm

re: #32 Alexzander

Being the blatantly cynical specimen I am, I'm just in it for the cash. q;

35 laZardo  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:09:32pm

re: #32 Alexzander

Also, from their "Honor Code"

All solutions are intended as a study aid and as a guide to the material. Copying work directly from others is against school honor codes. We require our members to act in accordance with their individual schools’ policies.

All of our material is original.
Slader is written by students for their peers. Our team of moderators checks solutions for accuracy and originality. We do not post copyrighted or stolen material, and we do not condone the theft of intellectual property.

... *snicker*

Though technically speaking, it is considered a copyright violation there to post the specific problem verbatim from the book.

36 Lidane  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:09:45pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

She who hesitates is lost. But even if Sarah Palin fades away, she won't be remembered as a lunatic, as Bachmann will be.

Palin will be remembered as a hopelessly ignorant, arrogant, completely obvious grifter that gave Tina Fey a reason to get more cash out of Lorne Michaels.

Bachmann is just a nutcase.

37 Four More Tears  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:30:16pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

I actually think a good bit better of Rick Perry after watching that debate. I still intend to vote for Romney in the primary, but I can now see myself voting for Perry in the general election if he wins. I've by no means made up my mind, but I'm more favorable to Perry than I was.

*blinks*

38 laZardo  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:31:57pm

Frank, you here? My mom's going to a public health clinic to get her knee checked tomorrow and I was wondering if you got an answer from your DSHS friend about that sponsor question.

39 MicheleR  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:38:19pm

re: #17 Dark_Falcon
I'm glad to hear this, as the parent of an autistic child, I seethe when I read stories like this.

40 MicheleR  Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:38:50pm

Evening all:) I see we have not run out of crazy yet. . .whew;)

41 boxhead  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 12:12:11am

re: #2 EmmmieG

What about green stamps? A prize in the box?

LOL... you are old.... green stamps indeed... :)

42 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 12:42:14am

re: #38 laZardo

It depends on the particular form the sponsor signed. If it's I-864 then yes, they will almost certainly get billed for the cost of the means tested assistance, and they can be sued. My source has no idea of what DSHS's track record is in these matters. If the sponsor signed form I-134 then they might get billed, but cannot be sued as form I-134 is in no way legally binding. Either way the sponsor signed on to support your Mom, they might not know what they've gotten into but they have taken on an obligation. It's dicey I know but you guys might give them a heads up and let them decide if they want to help out directly now or roll the dice. The way I phrased that might come off as extortionist to the sponsor, but like I said like it or not they took on an obligation.

I did some other research that you may or may not have at hand. There is also a route called "sponsor deeming" that might help depending on the financial situation of the sponsor. It allows a green card holder to use their sponsor's income when applying for means tested assistance like food stamps. Sponsor deeming was probably designed as a safeguard in situations where the sponsor's initial financial position has become less secure post sponsorship.

If the sponsor lived in the same household then she could qualify for food stamps assuming the household income was less than or equal to 130% of the federal poverty level.

Sorry my source couldn't provide a clear answer. Take care.

43 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 1:02:02am

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

I see no sarc tags, so I presume you are serious. Then I feel very sorry for you indeed. The Hair has transfixed you with its mighty hypnotic power.

Perry is a conniving, power-hungry politician dressed up as a God-fearing, prayer-loving good ol' boy. I wouldn't buy a vacuum cleaner, much less a used car from the man.

As for Romney, he looks like an actor in a movie playing an opportunistic character who's running for the presidency.

The rest of the candidates are a total loss. If I were a Republican, I'd be rending my clothes and gnashing my teeth over this crop of potential nominees.

44 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 1:05:19am

re: #38 laZardo

Since you're downtown I also wanted to mention the Pike Market Senior Center and Downtown Food Bank.

Here are a bunch of other resources that the City of Seattle offers for food assistance.

Unlike the federal food stamp program administered by DSHS, I don't believe that any of these municipal level resources give a rip about tracking down a green card holder's financial sponsor.

45 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 1:18:26am

Morning limited Honcos.

46 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 1:35:53am

we got a baseball team here...

47 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 1:43:41am

re: #46 ralphieboy

we got a baseball team here...

If you name the team the Yankees or the Red Sox, I quit.

48 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 1:52:36am

re: #47 Cannadian Club Akbar

If you name the team the Yankees or the Red Sox, I quit.

Meh, just replace me with this guy...
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

49 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 1:53:45am

re: #47 Cannadian Club Akbar

If you name the team the Yankees or the Red Sox, I quit.

How about them Cubs?

50 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 1:56:50am

re: #49 ralphieboy

How about them Cubs?

Not a big baseball fan I see.
/

51 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 2:00:27am

I was once a Cubs fan. Got over that, never been back.

52 researchok  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 2:02:52am

Morning, all

53 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 2:05:20am

re: #51 ralphieboy

I was once a Cubs fan. Got over that, never been back.

Black slime among food inspection violations found at Wrigley Field
[Link: aol.sportingnews.com...]

'Nuff said....

54 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 2:14:30am

re: #53 Cannadian Club Akbar

Black slime among food inspection violations found at Wrigley Field
[Link: aol.sportingnews.com...]

'Nuff said...

Yikes!

morning all. Hope everyone is having a good day today!

55 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 2:33:52am

Authorities said Wednesday they suspected cleaning chemicals in the restroom were to blame, but the cause was still under investigation.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

My money is on a bleach/ammonia mix.

56 EdDantes  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 2:39:21am

re: #55 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yes. Sounds like a "Janitors cocktail".

57 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 2:45:17am

re: #56 EdDantes

Yes. Sounds like a "Janitors cocktail".

Years ago a waiter I worked with unloaded a can of mace into the intake system of the A/C unit. I was lucky enough to be the manager on duty. Paramedics and cops everywhere. The restaurant basically had to be evacuated, except for one table of drinkers (regulars) who decided to stay since all tabs were paid for.

58 EdDantes  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 2:53:32am

re: #57 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've never experienced mace in the hvac but I do have a fond memory of a skunk being removed from the duct work of a building I was working in.

59 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 2:54:31am

re: #58 EdDantes

I've never experienced mace in the hvac but I do have a fond memory of a skunk being removed from the duct work of a building I was working in.

Was the skunk alive or dead?

60 EdDantes  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 2:57:57am

re: #59 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oh, he was dead! I do not know how or when he released his odoriferous cargo but it was unmistakeable.

61 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 3:00:46am

re: #55 Cannadian Club Akbar

Authorities said Wednesday they suspected cleaning chemicals in the restroom were to blame, but the cause was still under investigation.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

My money is on a bleach/ammonia mix.

I bet you're right. I once mixed bleach and a small amount of ammonia accidentally and I was damn lucky. That remains one of the more stupid things I've ever done.

63 Obdicut  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 3:03:07am

re: #61 iceweasel

I did that on purpose to clean my sink once.

So I'm more stupid.

Cleaned the fuck outta that sink, though.

64 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 3:04:30am

re: #63 Obdicut

I did that on purpose to clean my sink once.

So I'm more stupid.

Cleaned the fuck outta that sink, though.

I emptied bleach into the cat box. Never again!

But you're right, it did make it pretty clean.

65 EdDantes  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 3:07:08am

re: #61 iceweasel

Reminds of the song by Berlin, 'Take my breath away". I did the same thing once.

66 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 3:21:32am

On Aug. 5, 2009, Dippolito was at a local gym when she received a phone call from police requesting her presence at her house. Upon arrival, she found her townhouse encased in crime scene tape and a crime scene tech dusting the front door for fingerprints. A detective escorted her to a waiting sergeant who informed her that her husband was dead.

Brought to the police department, Dippolito came face to face with the man who had supposedly shot her husband twice in the head. It was then that she learned that the hit man was actually an undercover police officer and that her husband was alive and well.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Out on bond while her conviction is appealed.

67 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 3:35:29am

re: #66 Cannadian Club Akbar

Out on bond while her conviction is appealed.

What a horrible story.

68 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 3:40:52am

re: #67 iceweasel

What a horrible story.

I remember on "Cops" a woman hired a man to kill her husband. They took the husband to a field and had him lay down, squirted ketchup on his neck, took pics. Brought her to the station and showed her the pics. She cried. Then they brought the "victim" into the room. She freaked. But the deal was done. I think they also brought the "hit man" into the room. Heh.

69 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 3:42:00am

re: #68 Cannadian Club Akbar

I remember on "Cops" a woman hired a man to kill her husband. They took the husband to a field and had him lay down, squirted ketchup on his neck, took pics. Brought her to the station and showed her the pics. She cried. Then they brought the "victim" into the room. She freaked. But the deal was done. I think they also brought the "hit man" into the room. Heh.

Wish I'd seen that episode of Cops! the ones I've seen always seem to involve drunken domestic violence calls.

70 Obdicut  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 3:44:20am

re: #69 iceweasel

I still think of COPS as the moment that our society began to sink into the mire.

71 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 3:46:37am

re: #70 Obdicut

I still think of COPS as the moment that our society began to sink into the mire.

You're probably right about that!

72 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 3:47:39am

re: #70 Obdicut

I still think of COPS as the moment that our society began to sink into the mire.

Add Springer, that one guy named Downey Jr. (who smoked a bunch)....

73 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 3:51:45am

Here's video of the woman from my #66 post coming home to find out her husband was "killed". Nothing worthwhile but she does have a smoking hot body.:)

74 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 3:57:10am

re: #73 Cannadian Club Akbar

Here's video of the woman from my #66 post coming home to find out her husband was "killed". Nothing worthwhile but she does have a smoking hot body.:)

[Video]

It's creepy to see her fake hysteria.

75 EdDantes  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 3:59:36am

Nite all

76 Flounder  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 4:07:00am

I don't get it.

77 BongCrodny  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 4:11:14am

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

I actually think a good bit better of Rick Perry after watching that debate. I still intend to vote for Romney in the primary, but I can now see myself voting for Perry in the general election if he wins. I've by no means made up my mind, but I'm more favorable to Perry than I was.

We're all surprised.

78 alabamapurpleneck  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 4:39:19am

Hey!
First post! :)
Going back to Perry and God-Talking-thru-the-weather discussion! While not so skeptical as some on general topic, one might be forgiven for wondering tongue in cheek why Perry and the ilk doesn't hear in record droughts, heat wave, and fires the "voice" of God saying something like - "Hey guys! Might y'all be turning the heat up a bit much down there?"
Just a thought!

79 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:06:25am

re: #78 alabamapurpleneck

Hey!
First post! :)

you broke the thread.

//now fix it.

80 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:08:54am

re: #78 alabamapurpleneck

Hey!
First post! :)
Going back to Perry and God-Talking-thru-the-weather discussion! While not so skeptical as some on general topic, one might be forgiven for wondering tongue in cheek why Perry and the ilk doesn't hear in record droughts, heat wave, and fires the "voice" of God saying something like - "Hey guys! Might y'all be turning the heat up a bit much down there?"
Just a thought!

Hey punk! I've got the Alabama concession here. Watch yourself.

(Typical Internets Welcome.)

81 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:11:17am

re: #80 Decatur Deb

Hey punk! I've got the Alabama concession here. Watch yourself.

(Typical Internets Welcome.)

I'm just shocked that 2 different people in Alabama have the intertubes!!!
/

82 Obdicut  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:14:32am

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

You still haven't explained how you can support a secessionist.

83 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:14:57am

re: #81 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm just shocked that 2 different people in Alabama have the intertubes!!!
/

Auburn and 'Bama had to install fiber optic to keep track of their NCAA violations. He's probably one of those Yankees up in Huntsville. They have all kinds of Union Army connectivity.

84 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:15:45am

re: #80 Decatur Deb

Hey punk! I've got the Alabama concession here. Watch yourself.

(Typical Internets Welcome.)

My son married a girl from Alabama.

85 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:17:01am

re: #84 Alouette

My son married a girl from Alabama.

How far from? I married one from Kentucky, but I've put a lot of miles on her.

86 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:25:24am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

How far from? I married one from Kentucky, but I've put a lot of miles on her.

She is from Birmingham. Their wedding was quite an event. It was the first time in many years that one Jew married another Jew.

87 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:30:09am

Circumvent (n)- The opening on the front of men's underwear.


(I saw this on a video shuffleboard splash screen the other day.)

88 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:34:25am

re: #82 Obdicut

You still haven't explained how you can support a secessionist.

Very Carefully (tm).

Good morning, Lizardim. Happy Friday from the wild north country. Tuesday marks three years of wedded bliss for the fish family, so I have made plans to withdraw to a little lakeside resort away north and enjoy the cool fall weather. Hope everyone else's weekend will be fine.

89 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:36:32am

re: #78 alabamapurpleneck

Welcome aboard, little lizardling. Hope you enjoy your stay. Troll barbecue is warmed and ready for action, today's flavor is rosemary garlic, a personal favorite. Feel free to help yourself, let's just hope that we don't have to roast you upon it at a later time.

;)

90 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:38:42am

re: #88 thedopefishlives

Very Carefully (tm).

Good morning, Lizardim. Happy Friday from the wild north country. Tuesday marks three years of wedded bliss for the fish family, so I have made plans to withdraw to a little lakeside resort away north and enjoy the cool fall weather. Hope everyone else's weekend will be fine.

Three years? You haven't even found her stash of Fabio covers yet. Congratulations anyway.

91 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:39:40am

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Three years? You haven't even found her stash of Fabio covers yet. Congratulations anyway.

Of course I have, I had to lift two boxes' worth out of the truck when we moved into our new house last year. ;)

92 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:41:34am

re: #91 thedopefishlives

Of course I have, I had to lift two boxes' worth out of the truck when we moved into our new house last year. ;)

Fabio vs. Bird
Image: top.fabio.bird.jpg

93 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:44:58am

re: #86 Alouette

She is from Birmingham. Their wedding was quite an event. It was the first time in many years that one Jew married another Jew.

Our town has only a little (75 families) Temple. We are going tonight to an oneg Shabbat for a friend's birthday. We once smuggled his wife into Israel on a Southern Baptist Holyland tour.

94 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:02:37am

re: #88 thedopefishlives

Very Carefully (tm).

Good morning, Lizardim. Happy Friday from the wild north country. Tuesday marks three years of wedded bliss for the fish family, so I have made plans to withdraw to a little lakeside resort away north and enjoy the cool fall weather. Hope everyone else's weekend will be fine.

Congratulations! Hope you have lovely weather and an even lovelier time. ;)

95 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:07:53am

re: #88 thedopefishlives

Very Carefully (tm).

Good morning, Lizardim. Happy Friday from the wild north country. Tuesday marks three years of wedded bliss for the fish family, so I have made plans to withdraw to a little lakeside resort away north and enjoy the cool fall weather. Hope everyone else's weekend will be fine.

Down here on the 28th parallel, cool weather has yet to come. It was 91 and sunny today. On the bright side, the weekend will also be warm and sunny.

Enjoy the fall weather.

96 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:12:01am

re: #95 wheatdogg

Down here on the 28th parallel, cool weather has yet to come. It was 91 and sunny today. On the bright side, the weekend will also be warm and sunny.

Enjoy the fall weather.

We had frost yesterday morning up here in the wild north country. It's supposed to warm up some next week, but fall has definitely come in with a vengeance.

97 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:14:36am

How far up north are you, dopefish?

98 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:24:34am

Good morning scaly friends!

99 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:24:53am

Well. My temp job guy said to call today to see if he needed me to work. So I called. He said "nope, to hungover". That's OK, money is SO overrated. BAH!!!

100 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:27:24am

re: #97 wheatdogg

How far up north are you, dopefish?

I am a Minnesota lizard, although I live near the Twin Cities so it's not really _that_ far north. Nevertheless, the 49th parallel is not that far away.

101 darthstar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:34:03am

Good morning from Latitude 37.3

103 iossarian  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:39:43am

re: #101 darthstar

Good morning from Latitude 37.3

Good morning to you too.

re: #102 darthstar

Image: 299755_10150302926351275_177486166274_8404275_1604 124722_n.jpg

If "Rick Perry" is the answer, the question can be any number of things:

- Who is a colossal douche?
- Who is the only Texas governor running for president who is even stupider than W.?
- Who farted?

etc.

104 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:43:28am
105 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:44:50am

Texas News

Supreme Court halts Texas execution
Los Angeles Times | Sept. 15, 2011 | 5:59 p.m.
The U.S. Supreme Court has halted the execution of a black man convicted of a double murder in Texas 16 years ago after his lawyers contended his sentence was unfair because of a question asked about race during his trial.

106 iossarian  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:47:20am

re: #104 NJDhockeyfan

[Link: media.npr.org...]

Why, that is the funniest hand-drawn comic panel I have seen in a long time!

Hoo hoo, the suggestion that solar power can only run with government subsidy is bitingly witty and not at all similar to claims that the oil industry is massively subsidized, or that many other major industries rely on technology originally developed through government-funded primary research.

I may have to go and lie down for a bit.

107 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:49:40am

re: #101 darthstar

Good morning from Latitude 37.3

You know, it makes an interesting exercise to find yourself on Google Maps using nothing but latitude and longitude coordinates. You'd be amazed at how close you have to guess in order to be anywhere within reasonable distance.

108 darthstar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:50:14am

re: #106 iossarian

If there was a way to make 11 billion dollars a quarter selling sunlight, Exxon would stop drilling and invest in solar farms. The biggest problem with green energy is that it is potentially accessible to everyone.

109 Interesting Times  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:52:13am

re: #104 NJDhockeyfan

Allow me to deflate the right-wing smugboner over one company's woes:

U.S. military to be largest rooftop solar customer

The Department of Energy today backed a deal to connect solar electric panels at 160,000 locations on military bases, a move which could double the number of residential solar installations in the U.S.
...
SolarCity, which specializes in residential solar installation and financing, has been tapped to install, own, and operate the panels in up to 124 military bases in as many as 33 states. The five-year project will add 371 megawatts of solar capacity, bringing rooftop solar to military families' homes as well as warehouses and administrative offices on bases.
...
SolarCity said it hopes to fill as many jobs as possible with U.S. veterans and military family members.

Thank goodness the US military doesn't follow the Limbaughesque douchebag stance on renewable energy.

110 garhighway  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:52:52am

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

I actually think a good bit better of Rick Perry after watching that debate. I still intend to vote for Romney in the primary, but I can now see myself voting for Perry in the general election if he wins. I've by no means made up my mind, but I'm more favorable to Perry than I was.

Anti-science (unless he gets a piece of the action): check
Theocrat: check
Callous about the death penalty: check
Ignorant of economics: check.

I can see why he likes him.

111 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:53:00am

re: #108 darthstar

If there was a way to make 11 billion dollars a quarter selling sunlight, Exxon would stop drilling and invest in solar farms. The biggest problem with green energy is that it is potentially accessible to everyone.

No, the biggest problem with green energy is the inherent fluctuations in the energy source. It's very difficult to provide a stable, controllable power grid when clouds or a windless day - things that are beyond your control - can completely slaughter your capacity.

112 iossarian  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:53:50am

re: #108 darthstar

If there was a way to make 11 billion dollars a quarter selling sunlight, Exxon would stop drilling and invest in solar farms. The biggest problem with green energy is that it is potentially accessible to everyone.

How unsurprising would it be if one of the energy companies started "persuading" governments to sell licenses to produce solar power.

Cost per kwh is expected to come down to that of coal pretty soon, and then the only real problem left is storage, which battery technology is rapidly addressing as well.

I was talking to a guy at a BBQ this summer who installs solar panels. They're basically already cost-competitive for certain applications even before subsidy.

113 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:56:23am

re: #107 thedopefishlives

You know, it makes an interesting exercise to find yourself on Google Maps using nothing but latitude and longitude coordinates. You'd be amazed at how close you have to guess in order to be anywhere within reasonable distance.

Don't have to guess. My kids gave me a doormat that says "Welcome to xx Degrees, x Minutes N xx Degrees, x Minutes W." It came from one of the geek sites, seems accurate to about a mile.

114 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:57:17am

re: #113 Decatur Deb

Don't have to guess. My kids gave me a doormat that says "Welcome to xx Degrees, x Minutes N xx Degrees, x Minutes W." It came from one of the Geek sites, seems accurate to about a mile.

That is most excellent.

115 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:00:16am

re: #106 iossarian

Why, that is the funniest hand-drawn comic panel I have seen in a long time!

re: #109 publicityStunted

Allow me to deflate the right-wing smugboner over one company's woes:

U.S. military to be largest rooftop solar customer

Thank goodness the US military doesn't follow the Limbaughesque douchebag stance on renewable energy.

I'm glad you guys like the NPR cartoon!

116 darthstar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:01:17am

re: #109 publicityStunted


"smugboner"...great word.

117 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:01:55am

Happy Friday Lizard nation. Or Happy Saturday for those over the dateline.
This guy put together idea and opportunity quite well, cloud photography from the clouds. 4 miles up. I would so do this given the chance!

118 darthstar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:02:51am

re: #115 NJDhockeyfan

re: #109 publicityStunted

I'm glad you guys like the NPR cartoon!

It was cute...and will get forwarded around the country for all the wrong reasons.

119 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:03:02am

Greets and saluts from a crisp and clear NYC metro area. Fall is definitely in the air around here, which is a welcome change from the Indian summers we've been having lately. If you thought it was warm this summer, you'd be right. 26 straight years of above average summer temps in the northern hemisphere.

Oh, and the NYT asks whether we'd be willing to let 750,000 Somalis starve. The short answer? Yes.

The slightly longer answer: Yes, we had no problem allowing genocides where hundreds of thousands were killed in Rwanda, Congo, Sudan, etc. or civil wars that resulted in 2 million dead in Sudan, etc.

What's another 750k? A statistic.

Oh, there will be some relief efforts, but the body count will rise and the underlying reasons for the ongoing crises in the Horn of Africa will go unresolved - namely that you've got a failed state and no central authority willing or able to govern and terror groups and pirates are exploiting the situation to their own ends.

120 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:03:14am

Welcome Mat.
[Link: www.google.com...]

121 makeitstop  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:03:56am

Good morning, Lizards,

Man, how about those Congressional approval ratings?

Congress faces historically low approval ratings as it wades into the debate over the $447 billion jobs package proposed by President Obama, with just 12 percent of Americans now approving of the way Congress is handling its job, matching its all-time low, recorded in October 2008 at the height of the economic crisis, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll. […]

Only 6 percent of registered voters say that most members of Congress have earned re-election, while 84 percent say it’s time to give someone new a chance, a historic low for the New York Times/CBS poll.

I don't remember ever seeing an approval rating that low. I'm thinking foot fungus is more popular than Congress at this point.

And who the hell is in that 12% that approves, anyway?

122 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:04:51am

re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar

Welcome Mat.
[Link: www.google.com...]

This design:

[Link: www.signals.com...]

123 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:06:52am

re: #119 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from a crisp and clear NYC metro area. Fall is definitely in the air around here, which is a welcome change from the Indian summers we've been having lately. If you thought it was warm this summer, you'd be right. 26 straight years of above average summer temps in the northern hemisphere.

Oh, and the NYT asks whether we'd be willing to let 750,000 Somalis starve. The short answer? Yes.

The slightly longer answer: Yes, we had no problem allowing genocides where hundreds of thousands were killed in Rwanda, Congo, Sudan, etc. or civil wars that resulted in 2 million dead in Sudan, etc.

What's another 750k? A statistic.

Oh, there will be some relief efforts, but the body count will rise and the underlying reasons for the ongoing crises in the Horn of Africa will go unresolved - namely that you've got a failed state and no central authority willing or able to govern and terror groups and pirates are exploiting the situation to their own ends.

Part of a more massive problem. One of the causes is that we have deliberately introduced death control (modern medicine) without introducing birth control.

124 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:08:31am

re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar

Welcome Mat.
[Link: www.google.com...]

Heh. Really love "Come Back With a Warrant".

125 Interesting Times  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:09:35am

re: #111 thedopefishlives

No, the biggest problem with green energy is the inherent fluctuations in the energy source. It's very difficult to provide a stable, controllable power grid when clouds or a windless day - things that are beyond your control - can completely slaughter your capacity.

Not necessarily:

Windbaggers and climate deniers like to say that renewables are “intermittent, unreliable power”. But, when large power plants like nukes trip offline, they very often do so instantaneously, presenting a real challenge to electric grids. By contrast, when winds calm, wind power generally slows predictably, allowing system operators hours to adjust and shift loads.

Coal/gas power plants have their own problems with "intermittancy":

At least one North Texas power plant has had to reduce how much it generates because the water level in its cooling reservoir has fallen significantly, said Kent Saathoff, vice president of system planning and operations for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas.

126 darthstar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:09:53am

re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar

Welcome Mat.
[Link: www.google.com...]

WANT!

Image: invaders_doormat_animated.gif

127 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:11:55am

re: #100 thedopefishlives

I had a good friend who used to live in St. Paul. Worked at Macalester. I loved the summertime there, but never experienced a Minnesota winter.

But, I used to live in Wyoming, so there.

128 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:13:28am

re: #125 publicityStunted

It's still a challenge that has to be overcome, just like power plants tripping offline. It's part of a more general problem of how to balance supply distribution against load, and theoretically speaking, power plants are more reliable. With all that said, realistically speaking, the bigger problem is probably in storing the energy, as well as improving efficiency, which they have come a long way already.

129 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:15:58am

re: #121 makeitstop

And who the hell is in that 12% that approves, anyway?

The Teabaggers, of course. Who else?

130 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:18:45am

re: #129 thedopefishlives

Actually, I think it's attributable to the "I like what my Congressman is doing; its Congress that sucks."

131 makeitstop  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:19:56am

re: #129 thedopefishlives

The Teabaggers, of course. Who else?

I'm not too sure of that. Most 'baggers reflexively hate 'Congress' as an entity while approving of their own teabaggy rep.

That 12% may be made up of people who don't follow what congress does and don't care to find out.

132 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:23:40am

re: #130 lawhawk

Actually, I think it's attributable to the "I like what my Congressman is doing; its Congress that sucks."

I know. I should've added a sarc tag or something, as I was being facetious.

133 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:54:58am

Conservatives Deeply Concerned By Gay Comic Book Character’s Impending Marriage

It looks like Glenn Beck should have saved his ire for the Archie comics rather than losing it over the new biracial, gay Spider-Man (particularly because Miles Morales is heterosexual). It was announced today that Archie's friend Kevin Keller will get married to a man later this year. Conservatives are extremely upset because if there's one thing that influences today's kids, it's Archie comics.

heh.

134 darthstar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:55:01am

Hey...I got another $4 in equity. Every month, our house payment increases by about $4 towards principal. Only 29 years, 5 months left...this mortgage thing is flying by!

135 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:58:07am

re: #133 iceweasel

Conservatives Deeply Concerned By Gay Comic Book Character’s Impending Marriage

heh.

I just saw that page. Really, these people think wealth disparities, environmental problems, etc aren't a problem but a gay comic book character oh my god stop the presses. Bunch of goddamned children.

136 darthstar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:58:53am

If he touches a live wire, will Jesus feel the shock too?

And you thought Noah was an ark welder.

137 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:00:30am

re: #135 HappyWarrior

I just saw that page. Really, these people think wealth disparities, environmental problems, etc aren't a problem but a gay comic book character oh my god stop the presses. Bunch of goddamned children.

It's destroying the sanctity of marriage! /

138 Achilles Tang  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:00:51am

Talking of finance, I see that Geithner is berating the Europeans for indecisiveness and disagreements in dealing with their financial and banking crisis and that they could become beholden to outside lenders if they don't act.

This may all be true, but somehow it rings hollow coming from the US, given how Washington acts.

139 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:01:41am

re: #137 iceweasel

It's destroying the sanctity of marriage! /

I know! Damn you Archie and your promotion of the homosexual agenda. Shit do kids even read Archie any more? I don't even think comics are that popular as a whole anymore. My kid brother and his friends prefer video games.

140 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:01:49am

re: #133 iceweasel

Conservatives Deeply Concerned By Gay Comic Book Character’s Impending Marriage

heh.

I'm confused. Did Archie get married to Betty or Veronica and which one of them is a guy?

And, why are high school kids getting married anyway?

141 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:04:26am

re: #140 Alouette

I'm confused. Did Archie get married to Betty or Veronica and which one of them is a guy?

It's his friend that's getting married. Kevin.

142 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:05:48am

OT but I just got my first actual physical CD in years today. Really cool complication of New York music from 1945-59. Should be a neat listen.

143 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:08:38am

Alouette, did you notice my comment from the other day?

144 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:09:23am

re: #134 darthstar

Don't know what interest rate you've got, but you might want to talk to your bank about the HARP program to refinance with no closing costs. You can go on the Fannie Mae site to see if Fannie is the investor on your property, making it eligible to be considered for the program (if it meets all the other requirements).

Mine was done through Chase and I knocked a couple hundred bucks off my monthly payments (which I turned around and am applying against principal).

145 iossarian  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:11:21am

re: #119 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from a crisp and clear NYC metro area. Fall is definitely in the air around here, which is a welcome change from the Indian summers we've been having lately. If you thought it was warm this summer, you'd be right. 26 straight years of above average summer temps in the northern hemisphere.

Oh, and the NYT asks whether we'd be willing to let 750,000 Somalis starve. The short answer? Yes.

The slightly longer answer: Yes, we had no problem allowing genocides where hundreds of thousands were killed in Rwanda, Congo, Sudan, etc. or civil wars that resulted in 2 million dead in Sudan, etc.

What's another 750k? A statistic.

Oh, there will be some relief efforts, but the body count will rise and the underlying reasons for the ongoing crises in the Horn of Africa will go unresolved - namely that you've got a failed state and no central authority willing or able to govern and terror groups and pirates are exploiting the situation to their own ends.

This is the fundamental reason why I can't believe in some objective system of ethics, and have to conclude that what we call ethical, or "good" behavior, arises essentially from human social/survival traits.

Because otherwise the only possible ethical thing for westerners to do, would be to work hard, earn money, and send 90% of it to people building wells in Africa.

The hoops that people jump through to explain why their system of ethics doesn't compel them to do this are impressive though.

146 iossarian  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:11:49am

re: #140 Alouette

I'm confused. Did Archie get married to Betty or Veronica and which one of them is a guy?

And, why are high school kids getting married anyway?

Those "kids" are played by 25-year olds, so it's cool.

147 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:12:15am

re: #143 000G

Alouette, did you notice my comment from the other day?

Didn't see that, but have seen other rumors of Muammar's alleged ancestry.

148 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:13:31am

re: #146 iossarian

Those "kids" are played by 25-year olds, so it's cool.

Didn't "Archie" begin publishing in the 1940's? So those "kids" would be in their 70's. That's creepy "Twilight" shit.

149 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:16:29am

I remember a teeny-bopper band from the '60's, "The Archies" consisting of whatever spare musicians were hanging around the studio at the time, who had one really lame song "Sugar Sugar." For some reason that probably has to do with shady studio ethics, this "song" remained at #1 on the charts, above the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.

Fucking top 50 chart, how does it work? You can't explain that!

150 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:18:08am
When fascism comes to America, it will come with 0% financing for six months from date of purchase.
— Stinky Beaumont

But if not paid in full at six months your interest will be in getting out of jail.

151 iossarian  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:18:17am

re: #149 Alouette

I remember a teeny-bopper band from the '60's, "The Archies" consisting of whatever spare musicians were hanging around the studio at the time, who had one really lame song "Sugar Sugar." For some reason that probably has to do with shady studio ethics, this "song" remained at #1 on the charts, above the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.

Fucking top 50 chart, how does it work? You can't explain that!

You certainly can't!

Strawberry Fields/Penny Lane was kept off #1 (in the UK at least) by Burt Bacharach's "Please Release Me", which to be fair is a cracking tune in its own right.

152 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:18:52am

A sign of hope....
Congress's Ratings Hit Record Low

Congress is tied for its lowest approval rating ever, with only 12 percent of Americans approving of the way Congress is handling its job. The only other time when Congress was so unpopular was October 2008, at the height of the economic crisis. Broken down on party lines, the Republicans are slightly less popular than the Democrats, with 19 percent approving of the Republicans in Congress and 28 percent approving of the Democrats. Only 6 percent of registered voters say most of members of Congress have earned re-election.

153 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:20:52am

re: #151 iossarian

You certainly can't!

Strawberry Fields/Penny Lane was kept off #1 (in the UK at least) by Burt Bacharach's "Please Release Me", which to be fair is a cracking tune in its own right.

To be fair, Tom Jones and Engelbert Humperdink had a very large following of middle-aged ladies who were too old for Elvis and too young for Lawrence Welk.

154 iossarian  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:24:15am

This is a cool map:

Image: File:SolarGIS-Solar-map-Europe-en.png

The energy requirement for an electric car is roughly 300 Wh/mile (or roughly 3 miles per kWh). So if you lived in Paris and drove a US-average 12,000 miles per year, you would need a roughly 40 sq m solar installation (at current 10% capture efficiency). Which is not peanuts, but equally is far from impossible.

12,000 miles -> 4,000 kWh captured -> 40,000 irradiation -> 40 sqm @ 1,000 kWh/m2.

Then you just bolt on a solar heating system, a few extra sq m to run your appliances, and you're good to go!

155 iossarian  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:26:08am

re: #153 Alouette

To be fair, Tom Jones and Engelbert Humperdink had a very large following of middle-aged ladies who were too old for Elvis and too young for Lawrence Welk.

Oops, you're right that it was Engelbert. I'd forgotten.

Tom Jones is a genius. The theme song is the only good thing about "Thunderball".

156 Donna Ballard  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:27:28am

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

Orac of Scienceblogs does a wrap-up of Michelle Bachmann's self-immolation with Burning Anti-Vaxxer Stupid. One thing he notes is how much fire she's gotten from the right-wing for her rants against vaccines. Even folks like Instapundit are going after her for this. From my reading, Bachmann just gave any current or future electoral foe a club to her with.

Good Morning D_F!
I know I'm late coming into your conversation but, Ms. Bachmann is under the mistaken premise that vaccinations do more harm than good and that's where she rubs me the wrong way. (Not to mention when ever she opens her mouth, but that's another story!) I'm very pro-vaccination! The last time I didn't get my flu shot I had the flu 4 times (or was it 5? I forget) between August of 1999 and February of 2000, each bout was worse than the last, and by the time I got over my last bout of flu in 2000 I was sick for almost 6 weeks and was so weak I could hardly stand for more than a few minutes at a time.
I vowed then and there NEVER AGAIN would I ever miss getting a flu shot! Ms. Bachmann is just another one of those wackos that just don't get it when it comes to being ill for long periods of time, and the fact that a vaccination is sometimes the lesser of two evils. I'd love to see her reaction to being as sick as I was for as long as I was and then being told she shouldn't get the vaccination she needed to prevent it!

157 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:29:03am

re: #149 Alouette

I remember a teeny-bopper band from the '60's, "The Archies" consisting of whatever spare musicians were hanging around the studio at the time, who had one really lame song "Sugar Sugar." For some reason that probably has to do with shady studio ethics, this "song" remained at #1 on the charts, above the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.

Fucking top 50 chart, how does it work? You can't explain that!

That song will always remind me of the roller skating rink where it played incessantly in the 70's. If I never hear it again, it will be too soon.

/that goes double for "Windy".

158 Donna Ballard  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:30:19am

re: #157 wrenchwench

That song will always remind me of the roller skating rink where it played incessantly in the 70's. If I never hear it again, it will be too soon.

/that goes double for "Windy".

Not to mention "Hells Bells" If I never hear that song again it'll be too soon!

159 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:31:06am

re: #157 wrenchwench

That song will always remind me of the roller skating rink where it played incessantly in the 70's. If I never hear it again, it will be too soon.

/that goes double for "Windy".

How did these ear-turds get so much airtime and sweep the charts?

160 Donna Ballard  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:31:28am

re: #149 Alouette

I remember a teeny-bopper band from the '60's, "The Archies" consisting of whatever spare musicians were hanging around the studio at the time, who had one really lame song "Sugar Sugar." For some reason that probably has to do with shady studio ethics, this "song" remained at #1 on the charts, above the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.

Fucking top 50 chart, how does it work? You can't explain that!

We it did kinda "stick" in your mind! Now its running through mine, ugh!

161 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:32:26am

re: #160 Dragon_Lady

We it did kinda "stick" in your mind! Now its running through mine, ugh!

I have a cure for that. I plug in my MP3 player and turn on the Mozart.

162 Lidane  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:33:45am
163 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:33:52am

re: #159 Alouette

How did these ear-turds get so much airtime and sweep the charts?

I think you were on to something with the "shady studio ethics". Shady DJ ethics, too.

164 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:34:53am

re: #162 Lidane

When will these idiots finally learn?

Boehner Claims Homosexuality Is A Choice In Effort To Preserve ‘Defense Of Marriage Act’

*sigh*

Yeah Boehner they choose to have their lives spent being bullied by jerks like you and your allies.

165 makeitstop  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:36:21am

re: #163 wrenchwench

I think you were on to something with the "shady studio ethics". Shady DJ ethics, too.

And the radio promotions game was as dirty as it gets for a while.

Payola scandal

It nearly took down an American icon, Dick Clark. He had enough sense to back away.

166 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:36:28am

re: #154 iossarian

This is a cool map:

Image: File:SolarGIS-Solar-map-Europe-en.png

The energy requirement for an electric car is roughly 300 Wh/mile (or roughly 3 miles per kWh). So if you lived in Paris and drove a US-average 12,000 miles per year, you would need a roughly 40 sq m solar installation (at current 10% capture efficiency). Which is not peanuts, but equally is far from impossible.

12,000 miles -> 4,000 kWh captured -> 40,000 irradiation -> 40 sqm @ 1,000 kWh/m2.

Then you just bolt on a solar heating system, a few extra sq m to run your appliances, and you're good to go!

Lets multiply that 40 sq m x 2.9 million cars (10% of the cars in France) I think we better do nuclear power. The solar energy density is just too low and is only really a portion of the day. Seems to me solar will fill in at the margins and be of great help, but we need far more energetic technology that is clean.

167 Donna Ballard  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:37:45am

re: #161 Alouette

I have a cure for that. I plug in my MP3 player and turn on the Mozart.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to do just that. But unfortunately my spare time is up and I have got to get back to my errands, lots to do today! Take care everyone, have a great day and Keep Laughing!

168 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:42:09am

re: #165 makeitstop

And the radio promotions game was as dirty as it gets for a while.

Payola scandal

It nearly took down an American icon, Dick Clark. He had enough sense to back away.

Ah, that's what was rattling around in the back of my mind.

...So, by the time 1960 rolled around you can see how ASCAP most have felt when BMI was increasing and becoming more powerful each year. Rock and Roll and Rockabilly – a combination of rock and hillbilly music – skyrocketed in the 1950’s and the big boys, ASCAP, had to do something to stop it. It was not surprising at all, in 1959 when urged and backed by ASCAP, the House Legislative Committee started investigating corrupt broadcasting practices.

The committee broadened its investigation, which had been focusing on the rigged TV game shows, to include the practice of payola in radio. ASCAP believed that once investigated it would show that songs copyrighted with BMI became hits dishonestly because of payola. As ridiculous and petty as this sounds, it was the way of thinking back in those days.

This type of thinking came from the fact that many felt rock and roll music was the music of the devil, it was corrupting teenagers morally, and that teenagers only were listening to it because they had been tricked by greedy DJs who pocketed money or gifts to play songs over and over again until the teenagers were basically brainwashed.

[...]

Nevertheless, the Payola scandal didn’t serve ASCAP’s and many others main purpose, and that was to eliminate rock and roll. After a brief victory by the powers to be and a three year period of some really dreadful pop music, rock and roll music came back strong in the mid-1960’s with the help of the British Invasion and has been riding high ever since. No rock and roll was no fad it was here to stay.

169 iossarian  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:43:29am

re: #166 Rightwingconspirator

Lets multiply that 40 sq m x 2.9 million cars (10% of the cars in France) I think we better do nuclear power. The solar energy density is just too low and is only really a portion of the day. Seems to me solar will fill in at the margins and be of great help, but we need far more energetic technology that is clean.

I think you're right that a baseload, probably nuclear, will be necessary.

Not sure I quite agree on the "margins" point though. As capture and storage become cheaper and more effective, you're talking about a huge source of energy. Question of emphasis I suppose.

170 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:45:35am

re: #159 Alouette

How did these ear-turds get so much airtime and sweep the charts?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]


edit: bah, too late.

171 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:47:23am

re: #168 wrenchwench

Nevertheless, the Payola scandal didn’t serve ASCAP’s and many others main purpose, and that was to eliminate rock and roll. After a brief victory by the powers to be and a three year period of some really dreadful pop music, rock and roll music came back strong in the mid-1960’s with the help of the British Invasion and has been riding high ever since. No rock and roll was no fad it was here to stay.

That doesn't explain how shit like "The Archies" made it to the top and stayed there, which was after the Payola affair was over. Payola still going on in the late '60's when the Beatles & Stones were at their peak?

172 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:48:59am

I seem to recall the movie "Dreamgirls" showing that Motown used the Payola method heavily in order to get air time for its artists.

But those were good songs.

173 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:50:04am

re: #171 Alouette

That doesn't explain how shit like "The Archies" made it to the top and stayed there, which was after the Payola affair was over. Payola still going on in the late '60's when the Beatles & Stones were at their peak?

I guess we have to blame those brainwashed teenagers.

174 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:52:10am

re: #173 wrenchwench

I guess we have to blame those brainwashed teenagers.

I was a teenager at that time. I thought "The Archies" were Teh Suck.

Who do we blame for Justin Bieber?

175 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:52:52am

re: #55 Cannadian Club Akbar

Authorities said Wednesday they suspected cleaning chemicals in the restroom were to blame, but the cause was still under investigation.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

My money is on a bleach/ammonia mix.

Strange. AT the different places I've worked they've always had "industrial" chemicals for cleaning use --clearly labled- -"Bathroom Cleaner" "Glass Cleaner" etc.

I always assumed that this was done a) because it was cheaper to buy in bulk and 2) so the company wouldn't have to trust minimum wage emoloyees not to mix the wrong chemicals.

176 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:54:15am

re: #165 makeitstop

And the radio promotions game was as dirty as it gets for a while.

Payola scandal

It nearly took down an American icon, Dick Clark. He had enough sense to back away.

Payola's not past-tense, by the way. They can give cash and party favors to their hearts' content, and the law only requires that it be disclosed at some point. The DJ can say something along the lines of, "AWWW YEAH WE'LL BE SPINNIN THIS ONE FOR YA ALL WEEK by special arrangement RIGHT HERE ON 107.5 THE BONE" and if he says it one time at 3:00am that's enough to satisfy the law.

177 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:54:48am

Aside from payola, those inane pop songs had a bouncy, happy beat and really simple lyrics. "Sugar, Sugar" is but one of many. The kind of music parents would let their 10-year-old listen to.

We can blame YouTube for inflicting Justin Bieber on the world. But, fear not, his shelf life will be short, once he gets too old for his key fan base to pine for.

178 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:54:48am

re: #174 Alouette

Usher.

179 Four More Tears  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:56:38am

How bold!

Jindal Backs Spending Offsets He Didn’t Support When His State Needed Disaster Relief

Louisiana has had its share of disasters during Gov. Bobby Jindal’s (R) time holding political office, from hurricanes Katrina and Rita in 2005 (when Jindal was a congressman) to the Deepwater Horizon oil spill that threatened the state’s beaches and waterways in 2010. The federal government came to Louisiana’s aid in each case, spending billions of dollars in emergency disaster funds to help clean up and rebuild the state in the aftermath of the disasters. In none of those instances did Congress offset the emergency funds with spending cuts, and in none of those instances did Jindal go out of his way to ask them to.
But with states across the nation rebuilding in the aftermath of hurricanes, earthquakes, wildfires, and tornadoes, Jindal wants to put restrictions on emergency funds that didn’t exist for the funds that benefited his own state. In an appearance on MSNBC’s Daily Rundown today, Jindal told host Chuck Todd that deficits and debt are a “man-made disaster,” and because of those, the disaster relief funds for New Jersey, Virginia, and other states in desperate need of relief “should be offset”:

180 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:56:41am

re: #88 thedopefishlives

Very Carefully (tm).

Good morning, Lizardim. Happy Friday from the wild north country. Tuesday marks three years of wedded bliss for the fish family, so I have made plans to withdraw to a little lakeside resort away north and enjoy the cool fall weather. Hope everyone else's weekend will be fine.

Have a great weekend

and HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!

181 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:57:20am

OK, I am listening to Bach Violin Concerto in B-flat Major

Take that, you crappy Payola players!

182 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:58:13am

re: #78 alabamapurpleneck

Hey!
First post! :)
Going back to Perry and God-Talking-thru-the-weather discussion! While not so skeptical as some on general topic, one might be forgiven for wondering tongue in cheek why Perry and the ilk doesn't hear in record droughts, heat wave, and fires the "voice" of God saying something like - "Hey guys! Might y'all be turning the heat up a bit much down there?"
Just a thought!

First Post!

First Drink's on you:

I take fresh coffee with cream and sugar.

Don't forget to sweep up your shells.

And, Congrats! You are one a the brave, the few who actually venture out of their shells to post.

183 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:59:40am

re: #101 darthstar

Good morning from Latitude 37.3

I have no idea of my Lat or Long -i-tude.

Morning to everyone anyway!

184 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:01:56am

re: #110 garhighway

Anti-science (unless he gets a piece of the action): check
Theocrat: check
Callous about the death penalty: check
Ignorant of economics: check.

I can see why he likes him.

Strangely, I got a little of the feeling that DK did during that debate. Perry was the only that seemed to understand how crazy Bachmann was. Or at least he was the only one that didn't engage her too the point of crazy. He just shut up and let her cinch the noose a little tighter all by herself.

He is a wiley one.

185 Lidane  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:03:02am

re: #176 negativ

Payola's not past-tense, by the way. They can give cash and party favors to their hearts' content, and the law only requires that it be disclosed at some point.

Yes and no. Most radio stations will have limits on how expensive those gifts can be. Back in my radio days we couldn't give or receive anything over $50 in value because the station wanted to avoid any potential payola allegations.

Also, keep in mind that the music charts back in the day were wildly inaccurate. The top 40 radio songs were generally derived from surveying certain radio stations across the country. Album sales were taken from units shipped, not sold. It's only been in the last few years that the newer point-of-sale technology and more accurate ways of counting what's actually being played on a radio station has changed everything.

186 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:03:34am

re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar

Welcome Mat.
[Link: www.google.com...]

Image: niceunderweardoormat.jpg


LOL

187 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:03:44am

re: #179 JasonA

I got mine so you can't get yours (but NJ taxpayers can still pay more to the feds than they get back - so that LA can get more funds down the road).

Gotcha Bobby.

188 allegro  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:07:20am

re: #184 ggt

Strangely, I got a little of the feeling that DK did during that debate. Perry was the only that seemed to understand how crazy Bachmann was. Or at least he was the only one that didn't engage her too the point of crazy. He just shut up and let her cinch the noose a little tighter all by herself.

He is a wiley one.

I suspect it is more of a gender thing with him. He won't waste his time engaging with a woman, crazy or not. Beneath him.

189 makeitstop  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:07:56am

re: #171 Alouette

That doesn't explain how shit like "The Archies" made it to the top and stayed there, which was after the Payola affair was over. Payola still going on in the late '60's when the Beatles & Stones were at their peak?

Absolutely. The promo guys figured out ways to disguise what they were doing, mainly by taking the money they were illegally giving to DJs and instead giving it to the promotions departments of the stations themselves. It still gave the promo guys a way to get their records played while skirting the 'pay for play' laws and making the stations look like they had a special 'in' with the artists.

I worked in radio syndication in the late 80s and early 90s, and the amount of money spent by record companies to promote their acts was obscene. Even a small-potatoes syndicated radio show like the one I worked for got a small piece of the action.

190 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:09:14am

re: #149 Alouette

I remember a teeny-bopper band from the '60's, "The Archies" consisting of whatever spare musicians were hanging around the studio at the time, who had one really lame song "Sugar Sugar." For some reason that probably has to do with shady studio ethics, this "song" remained at #1 on the charts, above the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.

Fucking top 50 chart, how does it work? You can't explain that!

ahhhhhh, Sugar, Sugar

191 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:10:05am

re: #189 makeitstop

Absolutely. The promo guys figured out ways to disguise what they were doing, mainly by taking the money they were illegally giving to DJs and instead giving it to the promotions departments of the stations themselves. It still gave the promo guys a way to get their records played while skirting the 'pay for play' laws and making the stations look like they had a special 'in' with the artists.

I worked in radio syndication in the late 80s and early 90s, and the amount of money spent by record companies to promote their acts was obscene. Even a small-potatoes syndicated radio show like the one I worked for got a small piece of the action.

One "good" way Payola was used, to get Motown artists on mainstream radio, instead of being hidden away on low-wattage "Negro" stations.

192 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:11:22am

re: #151 iossarian

You certainly can't!

Strawberry Fields/Penny Lane was kept off #1 (in the UK at least) by Burt Bacharach's "Please Release Me", which to be fair is a cracking tune in its own right.

Burt was a song writing machine. Amazing how much he wrote and young people don't even know his name. Or that he was married to Angie Dickinson.

who's Angie Dickinson?

193 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:12:45am

re: #156 Dragon_Lady

I agree, I had the flu one year -- and NEVER AGAIN not get a flu shot.

If I had been in a 3rd world country, I would have died.

194 makeitstop  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:12:48am

re: #192 ggt

Burt was a song writing machine. Amazing how much he wrote and young people don't even know his name. Or that he was married to Angie Dickinson.

who's Angie Dickinson?

Dionne Warwick owes her career to Bachrach. She was an exceptional singer, but he delivered a string of hits that very few artists can lay claim to.

195 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:13:58am

re: #161 Alouette

I have a cure for that. I plug in my MP3 player and turn on the Mozart.

I could play "It's a Small World"

/after all

196 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:18:15am
197 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:20:18am
As of 2006, Bacharach had written 70 Top 40 hits in the US, and 52 Top 40 hits in the UK.[1]

One song writer, whom I hope, has made money.

198 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:22:00am

The power of the Intertubes -- After the remark upthread about the Association's hit "Windy," I went to Wikipedia to find out more about it. Went to the Association entry. Read that Leonard Bernstein referred to "Along Comes Mary" in one of his Young People's Concerts shows. In the same show, he mentions several other compositions, including "Norwegian Wood," "You Really Got Me," and "Secret Agent Man," along with several classical pieces.

Anyway, I ended up listening to "Fêtes," by Claude Debussy, a composer I know little about. And I learned stuff, besides.

199 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:29:52am

re: #198 wheatdogg

The power of the Intertubes -- After the remark upthread about the Association's hit "Windy," I went to Wikipedia to find out more about it. Went to the Association entry. Read that Leonard Bernstein referred to "Along Comes Mary" in one of his Young People's Concerts shows. In the same show, he mentions several other compositions, including "Norwegian Wood," "You Really Got Me," and "Secret Agent Man," along with several classical pieces.

Anyway, I ended up listening to "Fêtes," by Claude Debussy, a composer I know little about. And I learned stuff, besides.

This may be the first time in history that something good has come from that song. (The "W" one.) The other songs you mention are all great.

200 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:36:48am

When I was I kid, I never understood why she was named Windy and not Wendy. Who wants to hang out with a girl who's windy, anyway?

201 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:37:33am

re: #200 wheatdogg

When I was I kid, I never understood why she was named Windy and not Wendy. Who wants to hang out with a girl who's windy, anyway?

Because she has wings to fly above the clouds.

202 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:37:45am

It's night time here in China, folks. Time for bed for me. See you.

203 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:39:07am

re: #202 wheatdogg

It's night time here in China, folks. Time for bed for me. See you.

Charles blocked all registrations from China. He said nobody ever posted from China who wasn't a spammer.

204 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:47:38am
205 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:48:38am

re: #200 wheatdogg

When I was I kid, I never understood why she was named Windy and not Wendy. Who wants to hang out with a girl who's windy, anyway?

I always thought the song was a bout the weather --no?

:)

206 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:51:36am
207 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:51:50am

re: #205 ggt

I always thought the song was a bout the weather --no?

:)

And Windy has stormy eyes
That flash at the sound of lies

Lightning always strikes people who tell lies. That why Rick Perry, John Boehner, Michele Bachmann and all those guys are dead.//

208 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:53:13am

re: #206 NJDhockeyfan

Chocolate is as good as exercise!

oooh, you need to Page that !

209 Lidane  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:53:57am

re: #207 Alouette

Lightning always strikes people who tell lies. That why Rick Perry, John Boehner, Michele Bachmann and all those guys are dead.//

Nah. God just takes it out on the states instead. That would explain the drought and wildfires here in Texas, anyway.

210 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:57:28am

re: #208 ggt

oooh, you need to Page that !

OK, done :)

211 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:57:33am

I have to give Charles big credit for devising the Pages.

Lizards post some really good stuff there.

212 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 9:59:08am

re: #139 HappyWarrior

I know! Damn you Archie and your promotion of the homosexual agenda. Shit do kids even read Archie any more? I don't even think comics are that popular as a whole anymore. My kid brother and his friends prefer video games.

Archie was pretty lame by 1955.

213 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:00:07am

re: #212 Decatur Deb

Archie was pretty lame by 1955.

Everybody was pretty lame in 1955.

214 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:01:43am

re: #213 Alouette

Everybody was pretty lame in 1955.

White people were lame in 1955.

215 Kragar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:01:55am

re: #213 Alouette

Everybody was pretty lame in 1955.

Dio was not.

216 Lidane  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:02:12am

I must be speaking a different version of English than these people. WTF.

[Link: www.texastribune.org...]

Falwell called Perry’s previous flirtation with secession “gutsy.”

“I have admired him form a distance," said Falwell, who endorsed former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee in 2008 but has not yet endorsed a presidential candidate in this cycle. "I thought his talk on secession took a lot of guts to even say it.”

It's not gutsy to threaten to secede, then run for President. That's just craven opportunism.

217 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:03:31am

re: #216 Lidane

I must be speaking a different version of English than these people. WTF.

[Link: www.texastribune.org...]

It's not gutsy to threaten to secede, then run for President. That's just craven opportunism.

from your link:

but Rick Perry is probably one of the stronger candidates on social issues.

ROTFLAMO

218 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:03:59am

re: #213 Alouette

Everybody was pretty lame in 1955.

The Year 1955 From The People History

1955 consumerism takes off in a big way with the sale of some 7.9 million cars in the US with 7 out of 10 families now owning a motor car, and new laws were put in place requiring seat belts to be installed on all new cars. The average wages were now $3,851 per year, and the minimum wage was raised to $1.00 per hour. The first McDonalds was erected in 1955 and more fast foods and TV dinners are appearing including fish fingers. The first cans of Coca-Cola are sold up till then it had only been sold in bottles. Rock and Roll music continues to grow in popularity with more idols including Elvis Presley , Bill Haley and the Comets, Chuck Berry and The Platters, and young men's fashion matches the times with pink shirts and charcoal grey suits.

Cost Of Living 1955

How Much things cost in 1955
Yearly Inflation Rate USA 0.28%
Yearly Inflation Rate UK 3.5%
Average Cost of new house $10.950.00
Average Monthly Rent $87.00
Average Yearly Wages $4.130.00
Minimum Hourly Rate $1.00
Average Cost of a new car $1,900.00
Cost of a gallon of Gas 23 cents
Ladies Swim Suits $12.95
Black and White TV $99.95

219 Kragar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:04:27am

re: #217 ggt

from your link:

ROTFLAMO

Its takes guts to say you're the party of life when you boast about your confirmed kills.

220 Lidane  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:05:06am

re: #219 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its takes guts to say you're the party of life when you boast about your confirmed kills.

Especially when those confirmed kills include at least one innocent man that you KNEW was innocent.

221 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:05:32am
Technology 1955

First pocket transistor radios available

Fish Fingers are marketed by Bird's Eye

The first Atomically generated power is used in the US

Inventions Invented by Inventors and Country ( or attributed to First Use )
Atomic Clock England
Hovercraft England by Christopher Cockerell

Lego Gotfried Kirk Christiansen

Velcro Switzerland by George De Mestral

Popular Culture 1955

Ray Kroc starts the McDonald's fast food restaurant chain.
First riot at an Elvis Presley concert takes place in Jacksonville, FL
"The $64,000 Question" the popular US television game show starts
James Dean’s stars in the movie East of Eden
James Dean killed in car accident near Cholame, California
First Guinness Book of World Records Published
"The Mickey Mouse Club" debuts on ABC

Popular Films

Oklahoma
The Quatermass Xperiment
Rebel without a Cause
To Catch A Thief
The Quatermass Xperiment
The seven year itch

Popular Singers

Elvis Presley
Bill Haley and the Comets " Rock Around The Clock"
Chuck Berry
Fats Domino.
The Platters

222 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:05:53am

re: #213 Alouette

Everybody was pretty lame in 1955.

Bo Diddley, Bill Haley, Little Richard, and a bit ahead of her time:

March 2, 1955– Claudette Colvin (a fifteen year old African American girl) refuses to give up her seat on a bus in Montgomery, Alabama, to a white woman after the driver demands it. She is carried off the bus backwards whilst being kicked and handcuffed and harassed on the way to the police station.

223 Kragar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:05:59am

re: #220 Lidane

Especially when those confirmed kills include at least one innocent man that you KNEW was innocent.

Keeps people on their toes...

224 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:06:29am

re: #221 NJDhockeyfan

Fish Fingers are marketed by Bird's Eye

When did they stop calling them Fish Fingers and start calling them Fish Dicks?

225 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:08:45am

Birdseye story is kinda cool.

Story of forward thinking.

Clarence Birdseye: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

226 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:11:43am

Uh oh, the Chinese have really done it this time...

China steals "Angry Birds" for theme park

Add Angry Birds to the list of Western products and services that have wound up used without license in China.

A theme park inspired by the popular mobile game opened Sept. 1 in Changsha, a city in China's Hunan province, where visitors take turns with giant slingshots that shoot the birds at pig balloons.

This marks only the latest episode in what has been a decades-long struggle to get China to better protect intellectual property. Western critics complain that the country makes, at best, a half-hearted effort because it conflicts with China's development strategy. China has rejected that description as inaccurate.

...It's unclear how Rovio, the game's Finnish developer, intends to respond. A spokeswoman for Rovio China told the website Mobiledia that it would welcome a partnership. It would seem that a ready-made market exists.

"This [Angry Birds attraction] serves as a method for people to purge themselves and to gain happiness," a park official told the Chinese gaming website Gamersky.com.

LOL

227 allegro  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:13:10am

re: #224 Alouette

When did they stop calling them Fish Fingers and start calling them Fish Dicks?

Ew, I remember those nasty things. As a kid in Enid OK in the 50s, there was no fresh fish available outside of muddy ol' catfish if you caught it yourself. Whenever a little friend would invite me over to dinner on Friday it was very VERY important to know before accepting if the family was Catholic. If they were they would invariably serve those horrid frozen fish thingies.

Thanks to that stuff I really thought I hated fish and wouldn't eat it in any form until my 20s when, in Houston, I found out what fish really tasted like. Can't get enough of FRESH fish now.

228 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:17:18am

re: #227 allegro

Ew, I remember those nasty things. As a kid in Enid OK in the 50s, there was no fresh fish available outside of muddy ol' catfish if you caught it yourself. Whenever a little friend would invite me over to dinner on Friday it was very VERY important to know before accepting if the family was Catholic. If they were they would invariably serve those horrid frozen fish thingies.

Thanks to that stuff I really thought I hated fish and wouldn't eat it in any form until my 20s when, in Houston, I found out what fish really tasted like. Can't get enough of FRESH fish now.

My mother-in-law used to buy flounder and then bake it to within an inch of its life. Zedushka could smell the fishy fishy fish smell halfway down the block and then have to think up excuses why he couldn't come to the dinner table. He contemplated running away from home.

He will not eat fish (except for tuna and gefilte fish) to this day.

Tonight I am making broiled salmon, and as usual he won't even taste it.

229 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:21:58am

I'm thinking my mother-in-law probably bought the "day old" flounder to save money...

230 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:22:20am

fried and smothered in some sauce is the only way I could eat any fish.

ewwwww!

231 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:23:20am

re: #229 Alouette

I'm thinking my mother-in-law probably bought the "day old" flounder to save money...

Mine used to buy liver for the same reason.

None of her kids will touch it now.

G-d only knows how she cooked it. (casserole generation)

232 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:24:32am

Speaking of flu shots, Lizards. . . .

They are available now! Get one.

233 makeitstop  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:24:44am

re: #231 ggt

Mine used to buy liver for the same reason.

None of her kids will touch it now.

G-d only knows how she cooked it. (casserole generation)

I remember I used to love the smell of liver when it was cooking. Actually eating it, not so much.

234 allegro  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:24:44am

re: #228 Alouette

My mother-in-law used to buy flounder and then bake it to within an inch of its life. Zedushka could smell the fishy fishy fish smell halfway down the block and then have to think up excuses why he couldn't come to the dinner table. He contemplated running away from home.

He will not eat fish (except for tuna and gefilte fish) to this day.

Tonight I am making broiled salmon, and as usual he won't even taste it.

That's a shame for him. Though I'm not a big fan of broiled salmon, I'll do cartwheels for smoked salmon. On our every-other-year summer trips to Alaska where I have family (with a big fishing boat, on the Kenai Peninsula), my hubby would catch enough salmon to bring home, smoke and stock the freezer for the next two years. I really loved that man. *sniff*

235 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:24:46am

Two species of fish were badass enough to survive in 1950's Pittsburgh river. Old Pittsburghers don't eat a lot of fish. (Nothing multicellular could survive Chartier's Creek.)

236 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:24:50am

re: #231 ggt

Mine used to buy liver for the same reason.

None of her kids will touch it now.

G-d only knows how she cooked it. (casserole generation)

One thing about keeping kosher.

The only way to prepare liver is to broil it over an open flame.

237 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:25:36am

re: #235 Decatur Deb

Two species of fish were badass enough to survive in 1950's Pittsburgh river. Old Pittsburghers don't eat a lot of fish. (Nothing multicellular could survive Chartier's Creek.)

Do we want to know what breeds of fish could do that?

238 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:27:09am

re: #235 Decatur Deb

Two species of fish were badass enough to survive in 1950's Pittsburgh river. Old Pittsburghers don't eat a lot of fish. (Nothing multicellular could survive Chartier's Creek.)

In 1950's Pittsburgh, fish sticks eat you.

239 allegro  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:27:41am

re: #233 makeitstop

I remember I used to love the smell of liver when it was cooking. Actually eating it, not so much.

The smell of liver cooking about makes me arp. Same thing with kidneys - just can't take it. Won't eat it neither.

240 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:28:50am

re: #237 ggt

Do we want to know what breeds of fish could do that?

Some kind of carp and some kind of evil catfish. Now my sister has a cabin along the Alleghany inside the city limits, and complains that the beavers strip the bark from the trees where the ospreys nest. We can bring the environment back, if we just stop screwing with it.

241 darthstar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:30:20am

re: #231 ggt

Mine used to buy liver for the same reason.

None of her kids will touch it now.

G-d only knows how she cooked it. (casserole generation)

I bought liver in college for the same reason. $2 for a couple of pounds of liver and a few potatoes and onions would provide me with dinner for a few nights while I waited for my next paycheck. And I made it well.

242 Kragar  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:30:43am

re: #239 allegro

The smell of liver cooking about makes me arp. Same thing with kidneys - just can't take it. Won't eat it neither.

I'm not down with organ meat. Won't touch the stuff.

243 iossarian  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:31:13am

Spain raises taxes on the rich; the rich respond with stunning logic. AJ Ayer would be proud.

Emilio Botín, head of the Santander banking group and Spain's tenth wealthiest individual, said that he disagreed with the move. "I think it's bad," he told journalists.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

244 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:32:18am

re: #241 darthstar

I bought liver in college for the same reason. $2 for a couple of pounds of liver and a few potatoes and onions would provide me with dinner for a few nights while I waited for my next paycheck. And I made it well.

I sometimes crave liver and onions--wife and kid wouldn't have it in the house, so I'd satisfy the jonesing on TDY travel. Shoney's does it well.

245 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:32:44am

re: #244 Decatur Deb

I sometimes crave liver and onions--wife and kid wouldn't have it in the house, so I'd satisfy the jonesing on TDY travel. Shoney's does it well.

ewwwwww!

246 Lidane  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:33:30am

re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm not down with organ meat. Won't touch the stuff.

Same here. Organ meats are NOT an option for me. Neither is veal.

As for fish, I might have grown up here in Texas, but you won't get me to eat most of the catfish around here. It tastes too gamey for me.

247 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:33:33am

re: #245 ggt

ewww!

Gotta honor your Inner Dahmer.

248 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:34:05am

re: #247 Decatur Deb

Gotta honor your Inner Dahmer.

ewwwwwwwwwww!

249 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:34:18am

re: #247 Decatur Deb

Gotta honor your Inner Dahmer.

double ewwwwwwwwwww!

250 allegro  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:35:42am

re: #244 Decatur Deb

I sometimes crave liver and onions--wife and kid wouldn't have it in the house, so I'd satisfy the jonesing on TDY travel. Shoney's does it well.

My mom would fix liver and onions now and again. My dad and brother loved it. I was forced to eat it once. When it came back, violently, as we sat at the table, I was never made to eat it again. Mom only fixed it for them when I wasn't there.

251 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:36:52am

Once every couple of weeks I stop at a bakery/restaurant on my way to work and get a piece of Spanakopita and save it for lunch. This morning, they had just pulled it out of the oven when I got there, so I had to have a Second Breakfast.

252 Lidane  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:37:51am

re: #250 allegro

My mom would fix liver and onions now and again. My dad and brother loved it. I was forced to eat it once. When it came back, violently, as we sat at the table, I was never made to eat it again. Mom only fixed it for them when I wasn't there.

I was forced to eat it because my mother inexplicably likes liver and onions. Ugh. Just...ugh. I don't know how anyone eats it. It just tastes metallic to me.

I never had it come back in that dramatic a fashion, but as I got older I refused to eat it and would just make a plate with something else at dinner instead.

253 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:38:05am

mmmmmm, Spanakopita!

I had some wonderful Spanakopita at a little Greek Restaurant this week.


mmmmmmmmmm!

254 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:38:10am

re: #249 ggt

double ewww!

One Christmas our General decreed that every office door would have a themed Holiday decoration. My office mate was also warped, and the medics had all kinds of rubber wounded body parts for training. Big ol' stocking and we had "A Jeffrey Dahmer Christmas".

255 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:39:04am

re: #254 Decatur Deb

One Christmas our General decreed that every office door would have a themed Holiday decoration. My office mate was also warped, and the medics had all kinds of rubber wounded body parts for training. Big ol' stocking and we had "A Jeffrey Dahmer Christmas".

That's beyond sick.

256 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:39:32am

re: #252 Lidane

I was forced to eat it because my mother inexplicably likes liver and onions. Ugh. Just...ugh. I don't know how anyone eats it. It just tastes metallic to me.

That's all the blood in it.

257 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:39:51am

re: #254 Decatur Deb

One Christmas our General decreed that every office door would have a themed Holiday decoration. My office mate was also warped, and the medics had all kinds of rubber wounded body parts for training. Big ol' stocking and we had "A Jeffrey Dahmer Christmas".

This world would be so boring without The Warped.

258 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:39:53am

re: #255 ggt

That's beyond sick.

But non-sectarian.

259 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:40:12am

re: #256 Alouette

That's all the blood in it.

and toxins --

ewwwww

260 allegro  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:41:36am

re: #246 Lidane

Same here. Organ meats are NOT an option for me. Neither is veal.

As for fish, I might have grown up here in Texas, but you won't get me to eat most of the catfish around here. It tastes too gamey for me.

I agree about the catfish. I've never much liked the flavor of it either. The only time I had catfish and LOVED it was when it was prepared by a former next-door neighbor, a young Hispanic guy with a Jennifer Lopez look-alike wife and too cute little boy. Man, could that guy cook! It was his Friday evening thing - also the only night his wife would let him smoke and drink. He would rap on my window, beg a few ciggie butts and invite me over to share the beer and food. Bummer when they moved.

261 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:42:58am

Yikes!

Bee Attack in California Leaves 4 Hospitalized, Forces Evacuations

An entire city block was evacuated and four men hospitalized in Santa Ana, Calif., after a swarm of aggressive bees attacked on Thursday, authorities said.

The attack occurred after a hive of nearly 60,000 bees was disturbed in a stack of pallets at a storage yard just east of the busy Main Street in south Santa Ana.

The first victim was a man in a wheelchair who was apparently inside the storage yard with the hive when the attack happened.

"He was attacked and stung over 60 times and had fallen out of the wheelchair and was yelling for help," Santa Ana Fire Capt. Steven Snyder told The Associated Press.

Three others rushed over to help pull the man to safety, but were also stung several times. They initially retreated before returning to rescue him.

"They probably saved his life," Snyder told The AP.

All four reportedly suffered from anaphylactic shock, a serious allergic reaction to bee or wasp stings. Three were taken to Coastal Communities Hospital in Santa Ana, and the fourth was taken to Western Medical Center.

262 Lidane  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:43:29am

re: #260 allegro

There's only one place here in Austin that serves catfish I'll eat, and that's because they marinate it in lemonade, which cuts the gamey, bitter taste of the fish and makes it pleasant.

Other than that, thanks but no. I'll take something else instead.

263 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:43:34am

re: #260 allegro

Wifes people from Kentucky/Tennessee do decent catfish. There is apparently a folk distinction between table catfish and 'mudcats'.

264 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:43:56am

Liver, the storage unit of the body.

The liver stores a multitude of substances, including glucose (in the form of glycogen), vitamin A (1–2 years' supply), vitamin D (1–4 months' supply), vitamin B12 (1-3 years' supply), iron, and copper.

265 Lidane  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:45:23am

re: #256 Alouette

That's all the blood in it.

Blood and a whole lot of other things I'd rather not think about. I always hated liver.

I'm even the rare Mexican kid who eats menudo, but leaves out all the tripe meats. I just load up on the broth and veggies instead.

266 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:46:23am

re: #265 Lidane

Blood and a whole lot of other things I'd rather not think about. I always hated liver.

I'm even the rare Mexican kid who eats menudo, but leaves out all the tripe meats. I just load up on the broth and veggies instead.

Menudo --didn't they Ricky Martin used to sing with them?

:0

267 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:50:10am

re: #246 Lidane

Same here. Organ meats are NOT an option for me. Neither is veal.

As for fish, I might have grown up here in Texas, but you won't get me to eat most of the catfish around here. It tastes too gamey for me.

Even were catfish kosher, which they ain't, growing up on the West Coast kind of ruined me for freshwater fish. The taste is weird, and they always seem to have so very many bones.

268 Lidane  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:50:20am

re: #266 ggt

Menudo --didn't they Ricky Martin used to sing with them?

:0

Hahaha, yes.

269 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:50:48am

Gotta get some stuff done.

Have a great afternoon all!

270 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 10:53:34am

WTF???

Chester inmate who threatened to eat Obama sentenced to five years

A career criminal who threatened to kill and eat President Obama won't be going out to dine any time soon.

Gregory Dale Brockman, 33, was serving a three-year sentence for burglary in January 2010 when he wrote letters to the Secret Service detailing his plans. According to court papers, in one missive, postmarked Jan. 19, 2010, from a Chester prison, he also described how he would sexually assault Michelle Obama and then "skin her alive."

He added that after killing the president, he planned to "cut his meat from his bones and put them in the oven," then "sit down at the table and start eating."

In an interview with Secret Service agents a few weeks later, Brockman admitted writing the letter, saying he had been trying to calm himself down. According to court papers, he told the agents he was upset about the war in Afghanistan, marijuana prohibition, and underfunding of public schools. Brockman also mentioned how he was fascinated by Jeffrey Dahmer, who killed 17 people and consumed several of them.

...On Thursday, Brockman was sentenced to five years in prison. He is to serve that after finishing his term in Chester and another five-year term for threatening President George W. Bush in 2008. The sentences, Memeger said, will run consecutively.

271 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 11:03:32am

re: #270 NJDhockeyfan

Bringing today's discussion of Dahmer to a complete circle.

272 Lidane  Fri, Sep 16, 2011 11:36:51am

Feeling hungover without the alcohol and fun the night before? NOT fun.

Blah. :(


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