The Onion’s new video is hilarious! Good thing nobody really thinks this way.
(What? It’s not from The Onion? It’s Pastor John Hagee, and he’s not trying to be funny? Well, all righty then.)
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aagcobb Fri, Sep 16, 2011 4:55:28pm |
I wish Harry Potter could teach witchcraft. I could've used that eyeglass fixing spell when my frames broke the other day.
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Atlas Fails Fri, Sep 16, 2011 4:59:24pm |
re: #1 aagcobb
I wish Harry Potter could teach witchcraft. I could've used that eyeglass fixing spell when my frames broke the other day.
If Harry Potter could teach witchcraft, there'd be a lot fewer middle school nerds being jammed into lockers and a lot more middle school jocks being turned into frogs.
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 4:59:25pm |
another rumpled old hack pimping for Jesus....I bet his tie cost $200 tho...
to me, these people are like, from another planet
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wrenchwench Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:00:13pm |
As a person who has parents, I strongly disagree that they should control my destiny. I will control my own destiny, thank you.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:00:26pm |
Scary ranting evangelist is scary when ranting...
Who was it about thirty years ago that decided Christianity in America and common sense had to be antithetical to each other?
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engineer cat Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:01:54pm |
my Secular Paganism movement is specifically aimed at corrupting American Youth by teaching them thespianism and deconstructionist critique
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:02:36pm |
now I know how Saladin felt at the gates of Jerusalem....waiting for Jesus to come and smite him
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Lidane Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:03:15pm |
Gee, where have I heard that before? Oh, right --
[Link: www.chick.com...]
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:03:18pm |
re: #6 engineer dog
my Secular Paganism movement is specifically aimed at corrupting American Youth by teaching them thespianism and deconstructionist critique
Monopoly is good too
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:04:12pm |
I'm kinda disappointed. I thought creeping Shariah and the impending dhimmitude of patriots under the coming Global Caliphate was ruining America. I guess we're gonna have to try harder. //
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thatthatisis Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:05:38pm |
Um, does this guy know the Harry Potter story, including the ending?
You never hear these fundamentalists complaining about CS Lewis and witches with talking lions, do you?
Idjit.
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Atlas Fails Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:06:36pm |
If these dunderheads had even an ounce of insight, they'd realize that Harry Potter was a standard good vs. evil series, with good triumphing in the end. In this sense, it's like Lord of the Rings or Narnia, only with heavy-handed WWII allegory as opposed to heavy-handed Biblical allegory.
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Targetpractice Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:07:43pm |
Hey padre, you're a bit late to the party. All the outrage and God-bothering over Harry Potter is so last decade. These days, everybody's into the sparkly vampires.
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:07:53pm |
re: #12 Atlas Fails
If these dunderheads had even an ounce of insight, they'd realize that Harry Potter was a standard good vs. evil series, with good triumphing in the end. In this sense, it's like Lord of the Rings or Narnia, only with heavy-handed WWII allegory as opposed to heavy-handed Biblical allegory.
hint...
it's not about Harry Potter
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aagcobb Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:09:11pm |
re: #11 thatthatisis
Um, does this guy know the Harry Potter story, including the ending?
You never hear these fundamentalists complaining about CS Lewis and witches with talking lions, do you?
Idjit.
You mean where Harry Potter is killed, comes back to life, and defeats the Prince of Evil? I wonder where I've heard that story before?
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:10:34pm |
re: #13 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Hey padre, you're a bit late to the party. All the outrage and God-bothering over Harry Potter is so last decade. These days, everybody's into the sparkly vampires.
consider the social time lag of his listeners...they are anywhere from 10-6000yrs behind
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:11:56pm |
Okay, Steve, you're slacking off. Pick a fight with someone already so we can see some activity here.
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jaunte Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:12:10pm |
Hagee is filled with love for the sound of his own voice.
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Targetpractice Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:12:53pm |
re: #16 albusteve
consider the social time lag of his listeners...they are anywhere from 10-6000yrs behind
Yeah, I hear somebody just broke it to them that the Black Plague ended 600 years ago. Apparently there were a lot of disappointed reactions.
/
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:13:02pm |
re: #17 CuriousLurker
Okay, Steve, you're slacking off. Pick a fight with someone already so we can see some activity here.
I've been tamed, on a very short leash
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jaunte Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:14:10pm |
re: #10 CuriousLurker
I'm kinda disappointed. I thought creeping Shariah and the impending dhimmitude of patriots under the coming Global Caliphate was ruining America. I guess we're gonna have to try harder. //
Harith Potter!
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:14:20pm |
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:14:58pm |
re: #19 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yeah, I hear somebody just broke it to them that the Black Plague ended 600 years ago. Apparently there were a lot of disappointed reactions.
/
it reduced the numbers in need of healthcare....cool!
FREE THE RATS!
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:16:25pm |
re: #11 thatthatisis
Um, does this guy know the Harry Potter story, including the ending?
You never hear these fundamentalists complaining about CS Lewis and witches with talking lions, do you?
Idjit.
Lewis has been challenged and banned, actually. Not all Christians are wild about what he does, and the further you go into the whackosphere, the less happy they are about him.
As for Harry as Christ figure, I sort of wish Rowling had given the low-hanging fruit of symbolism a pass--I didn't care for how she finally handled it. But whatever. It's an excellent series.
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:16:30pm |
re: #22 jaunte
Harith Potter!
Hmm, Potter. Omar Khayyam had a series of poems about Potter's Row and he was a Muslim, so I'll betcha anything Harry Potter is a stealth jihadist and card carrying member of the MB.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:17:24pm |
re: #13 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Hey padre, you're a bit late to the party. All the outrage and God-bothering over Harry Potter is so last decade. These days, everybody's into the sparkly vampires.
If Mr. Hagee wants, I will join with him in trying to wipe out the sparkly vampires.
Actually, I wouldn't. Teenage girls need access to soft porn. But still. My heart would be with him in his endeavor.
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:17:56pm |
re: #25 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm going to have to read the books or watch the movies one of these days. I've done neither, and I've always loved fairy tales and stories involving magic.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:18:53pm |
re: #26 CuriousLurker
Hmm, Potter. Omar Khayyam had a series of poems about Potter's Row and he was a Muslim, so I'll betcha anything Harry Potter is a stealth jihadist and card carrying member of the MB.
OMAR KHAYYAM WAS A MUSLIM???!!!!
(Literature is getting scarier by the moment.)
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Targetpractice Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:20:08pm |
re: #27 SanFranciscoZionist
If Mr. Hagee wants, I will join with him in trying to wipe out the sparkly vampires.
Actually, I wouldn't. Teenage girls need access to soft porn. But still. My heart would be with him in his endeavor.
Just introduce them to Buffy: The Vampire Slayer. At least there, they don't sparkle.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:20:09pm |
re: #28 CuriousLurker
I'm going to have to read the books or watch the movies one of these days. I've done neither, and I've always loved fairy tales and stories involving magic.
I really love it. I pick at it--especially from a teacher's perspective. (The house system is a terrible idea.) But it's really wonderful reading, and the movies are beautiful.
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:20:55pm |
re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist
OMAR KHAYYAM WAS A MUSLIM???!!!
(Literature is getting scarier by the moment.)
LOL!! Hey, I heard Jesus (a.s.) was Jew from the Middle East even. I bet they'd be suspicious of him to if he'd arrived today totally not looking like he was born in Kansas.
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urchin Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:21:29pm |
I have a feeling that Pastor Hagee's story is just beginning, and that it will end with a dead shemale hooker on a golf course.
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Atlas Fails Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:22:33pm |
re: #31 SanFranciscoZionist
I really love it. I pick at it--especially from a teacher's perspective. (The house system is a terrible idea.) But it's really wonderful reading, and the movies are beautiful.
Do schools really sort students into houses? If so, does a magical talking hat do the sorting? I'd never heard of anything like that 'til I read HP, but I went to a public school in the rust belt, so my experience with education is limited.
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laZardo Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:22:37pm |
I thought it was My Little Pony ruining America. I even wrote a book about it which I deny was used in recent maniacal shooting acts.
///
/extra-cynic mode engaged at full throttle
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:23:21pm |
re: #31 SanFranciscoZionist
I really love it. I pick at it--especially from a teacher's perspective. (The house system is a terrible idea.) But it's really wonderful reading, and the movies are beautiful.
That seals it. I'm definitely going to have to see/read them then.
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:23:33pm |
re: #33 urchin
I have a feeling that Pastor Hagee's story is just beginning, and that it will end with a dead shemale hooker on a golf course.
that is a bizarre feeling
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:24:07pm |
Harry Potter? Please. All the stories I read usually start out, "Dear Penthouse Forum, I've read about stuff like this but never thought it could happen to me".....
///
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Targetpractice Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:24:53pm |
re: #39 Cannadian Club Akbar
Harry Potter? Please. All the stories I read usually start out, "Dear Penthouse Forum, I've read about stuff like this but never thought it could happen to me"...
///
"I read it for the articles, I swear!"
/
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:25:06pm |
re: #35 laZardo
Actually, it was that gay Teletubby. And rock-n-roll. And women's lib. And civil rights.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:26:01pm |
re: #40 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
"I read it for the articles, I swear!"
/
Dude, um, you do know they have joke too, right?
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:26:42pm |
re: #34 Atlas Fails
Do schools really sort students into houses? If so, does a magical talking hat do the sorting? I'd never heard of anything like that 'til I read HP, but I went to a public school in the rust belt, so my experience with education is limited.
Traditional English boarding schools do sort students into houses in a vaguely similar manner, but without the talking hat. It's basically a way of breaking students into manageable groups--everyone who shares a dorm eats together, and know each other, and specific adults can be in charge of making sure they're all accounted for.
My concern about the Hogwarts method...oh hell, you can read the whole thing here if you're so inclined.
Other than that, suffice it to say that I think that putting all the children of the magical fascists into one house together, and encouraging them to be loyal to one another = a very poor idea.
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Targetpractice Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:27:05pm |
re: #35 laZardo
I thought it was My Little Pony ruining America. I even wrote a book about it which I deny was used in recent maniacal shooting acts.
///
/extra-cynic mode engaged at full throttle
It's become an infectious disease of late. Everywhere I turn, it seems all those around me have become infected, slowly allowing it to change them. I'm beginning to become afraid to go asleep and keep looking for pods hidden in my room.
//
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Obdicut Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:30:57pm |
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:31:44pm |
re: #47 albusteve
Petty
I Won't Back Down[Video]
The only song in Super Bowl history that ever made sense
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elizajane Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:32:16pm |
The notion that the greatest threats our nation faces are a fictional magician and a benign renaissance philosophy fills me with a sense of peace and joy, and suggests that our defense budget really is over-inflated. It's kind of like listening to the Republican debate and realizing that the biggest political issue today is whether or not kids should get their shots for school, and whether we should torture fire Ben Bernanke.
It's wonderful! This country clearly has no serious problems at all!
///
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:33:46pm |
I don't know why they don't make some good Bible movies. I mean NOT preachy ones, but like really interesting ones. There's plenty of magic, and drama, and even racy stories. Imagine what they cold do with the Ten Commandments with today's special effects. Or how about Solomon & Sheba—now there's a love story, and magic too. Or maybe even Jonah & the whale...
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engineer cat Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:34:04pm |
these kind of rants always remind me of my favorite story from the 1928 election
A popular radio preacher put [Al] Smith in the same camp as "card playing, cocktail drinking, poodle dogs, divorces, novels, stuffy rooms, dancing, evolution, Clarence Darrow, nude art, prize-fighting, actors, greyhound racing, and modernism."
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:34:32pm |
re: #28 CuriousLurker
Anything that gets kids to read a book, is, in my opinion a good thing.
And the books are a fun read!
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:34:47pm |
Breaking news from AP: plane crash at Reno Nevada air show... "mass casualty situation"...
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:34:47pm |
re: #49 HoosierHoops
The only song in Super Bowl history that ever made sense
those guys were damned good...
a favorite...cool song
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:35:07pm |
re: #54 Charles
Breaking news from AP: plane crash at Reno Nevada air show... "mass casualty situation"...
Oh, man.
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makeitstop Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:35:30pm |
re: #48 Obdicut
YEah, I'm here. What's up?
I may be a bit late getting to the club tonight - I'm picking up the other guitarist on the way in. I still expect to get there around 11:00, but might be a bit later.
If you're there before me, I'll be wearing a faded Yankee Stadium shirt and will be carrying guitars. :)
And do NOT pay in to the performance area. That's on me when I get there.
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:35:43pm |
re: #54 Charles
Breaking news from AP: plane crash at Reno Nevada air show... "mass casualty situation"...
oh jeez...sad
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:35:49pm |
re: #54 Charles
Crap. Hate to hear those things.
I was supposed to go this weekend.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:36:25pm |
re: #51 CuriousLurker
I don't know why they don't make some good Bible movies. I mean NOT preachy ones, but like really interesting ones. There's plenty of magic, and drama, and even racy stories. Imagine what they cold do with the Ten Commandments with today's special effects. Or how about Solomon & Sheba—now there's a love story, and magic too. Or maybe even Jonah & the whale...
They did a whole bunch of 'sword and sandal' spectaculars back in the 50s, but the fashion for it has mostly died out. It would be cool to get back to.
A miniseries about King David's wives would be awesome. (They could base the script off the novel I've been meaning to write.)
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blueraven Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:37:19pm |
Vintage P51 Mustang crashes at Nevada Air race near Reno. Pilot was 80 years old.
At least 30 injured in stands.
[Link: www.rgj.com...]
Terrible!
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:37:37pm |
re: #54 Charles
Um and it's not an air show, it's air races.
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makeitstop Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:38:02pm |
re: #61 blueraven
Vintage P51 Mustang crashes at Nevada Air show near Reno. Pilot was 80 years old.
At least 30 injured in stands.
[Link: www.rgj.com...]
Terrible!
Aww, man. That's terrible.
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:38:17pm |
re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist
A miniseries about King David's wives would be awesome. (They could base the script off the novel I've been meaning to write.)
Now THAT sounds interesting.
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Obdicut Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:38:23pm |
re: #57 makeitstop
Aw, thanks man. I've got the bunnies shirt on and I'll be with my lanky friend Bogdon, who's also a musician of some description, I forget which instrument. Probably guitar. We'll be there elevenish or so but no worries, we can keep each other amused.
See you there.
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:39:25pm |
re: #65 Obdicut
Aw, thanks man. I've got the bunnies shirt on and I'll be with my lanky friend Bogdon, who's also a musician of some description, I forget which instrument. Probably guitar. We'll be there elevenish or so but no worries, we can keep each other amused.
See you there.
You have a shirt with bunnies on it??
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:39:54pm |
re: #54 Charles
Breaking news from AP: plane crash at Reno Nevada air show... "mass casualty situation"...
Oh, hell.
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Obdicut Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:40:07pm |
re: #66 CuriousLurker
The bunnies are having sex with each other.
And it says "Multiplayer" in Japanese on it.
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:40:15pm |
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Obdicut Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:40:40pm |
re: #61 blueraven
I dearly love old people and think they're fun as hell but 80 is too old to be flying a notable temperamental airplane.
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:40:44pm |
re: #68 Obdicut
The bunnies are having sex with each other.
And it says "Multiplayer" in Japanese on it.
I should've known! LOL *headdesk*
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:41:40pm |
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:41:51pm |
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:42:27pm |
re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist
They did a whole bunch of 'sword and sandal' spectaculars back in the 50s, but the fashion for it has mostly died out. It would be cool to get back to.
A miniseries about King David's wives would be awesome. (They could base the script off the novel I've been meaning to write.)
I like the David Idea.. Make it like 300 hundred on the conquering.. And didn't David have a salacious affair? I'd so put that in the movie...Adventure movies without some sexual tension is so boring...
King David=Russell Crowe
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:43:56pm |
re: #64 CuriousLurker
Now THAT sounds interesting.
He was a much-married man, and the wives we know about are really interesting women.
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:44:06pm |
my Ninja Code allows only black...perfect for clubbing in NYC
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makeitstop Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:45:38pm |
I just read a feature about that pilot in Auto Week. He's known for restoring P-51s - he's a real estate developer who set up an aviation museum in Florida, and he owns a couple of the few remaining Mustangs.
I hope he survived the crash.
ETA: Here's his Facebook page.
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Targetpractice Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:45:43pm |
re: #61 blueraven
Vintage P51 Mustang crashes at Nevada Air race near Reno. Pilot was 80 years old.
At least 30 injured in stands.
[Link: www.rgj.com...]
Terrible!
Yegods, this is a horror story. Either right next to or directly into the stands.
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:46:05pm |
re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist
He was a much-married man, and the wives we know about are really interesting women.
The story of Joesph (a.s.) would be cool too. Lots or twists & turns & drama.
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:48:21pm |
re: #78 makeitstop
I just read a feature about that pilot in Auto Week. He's known for restoring P-51s - he's a real estate developer who set up an aviation museum in Florida, and he owns a couple of the few remaining Mustangs.
I hope he survived the crash.
I don't know about few...there seem to be a lot of them around, especially considering other planes...and contrary to Obdicut, the Mustang flew right where you pointed it...a dream plane to fly...as for this old guy, I can't say
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:48:31pm |
75 injured so far.. 25 critical so far..
This could be bad
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:48:41pm |
re: #75 HoosierHoops
I like the David Idea.. Make it like 300 hundred on the conquering.. And didn't David have a salacious affair? I'd so put that in the movie...Adventure movies without some sexual tension is so boring...
King David=Russell Crowe
The wife most folks remember is Batsheva (Bathsheba in the trad. anglicization). She was married to someone else. He slept with her anyway. She got pregnant. He had to figure out a way to make her husband disappear.
King Solomon's parents, ladies and gentleman. Perhaps you get to be 'the wisest of men' by watching the adult all around you make terrible mistakes.
But there were seven or eight wives, depending on how you count Avishag, and an unspecified number of concubines. And endless scandal and struggle with the children. And of course, the never-settled, always interesting speculation on what the precise nature of his relationship with Jonathan was.
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:48:52pm |
re: #78 makeitstop
I just read a feature about that pilot in Auto Week. He's known for restoring P-51s - he's a real estate developer who set up an aviation museum in Florida, and he owns a couple of the few remaining Mustangs.
I hope he survived the crash.
From the article:
“The guy lost control, shot straight up into the air and came down into the people,” Echeverria said. “It hit full force, full throttle.”
The plane did not explode but “just disintegrated into debris,” Echeverria said. “There’s a huge crater where it hit.”
Seems unlikely. How awful.
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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:49:36pm |
re: #1 aagcobb
I wish Harry Potter could teach witchcraft. I could've used that eyeglass fixing spell when my frames broke the other day.
Iknowright!
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:50:09pm |
re: #84 CuriousLurker
From the article:
Seems unlikely. How awful.
wow...the very worst case scenario
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:50:18pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:50:24pm |
re: #80 CuriousLurker
The story of Joesph (a.s.) would be cool too. Lots or twists & turns & drama.
Oooh, decidedly.
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Targetpractice Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:50:42pm |
re: #84 CuriousLurker
From the article:
Seems unlikely. How awful.
Sounds like mechanical failure of some kind.
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laZardo Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:50:57pm |
On a slightly more positive note, Courtesy Clerk position interview at 2 on Monday.
:D
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makeitstop Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:51:00pm |
re: #81 albusteve
I don't know about few...there seem to be a lot of them around, especially considering other planes...and contrary to Obdicut, the Mustang flew right where you pointed it...a dream plane to fly...as for this old guy, I can't say
You could be right. I'm not very well informed when it comes to airplanes.
KOLO TV confirms that it was Jimmy Leeward, and that he did not survive. RIP
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:51:52pm |
re: #89 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Sounds like mechanical failure of some kind.
you can pull a lot of G's in a Mustang...the guy was old...who knows
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:51:53pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:52:40pm |
re: #87 goddamnedfrank
I can't watch that.
I was supposed to go.
So very, very sad.
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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:52:42pm |
re: #54 Charles
Breaking news from AP: plane crash at Reno Nevada air show... "mass casualty situation"...
Holy shit.
I saw the video. A P-51 came straight down nose first.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:53:14pm |
re: #89 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Sounds like mechanical failure of some kind.
Dude was 80 years old. I admire him for chasing his passion but perhaps he wasn't up to pulling sustained G forces anymore, shouldn't have been up there.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:57:09pm |
It's bad:
[Link: www.rgj.com...]
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MicheleR Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:57:59pm |
re: #83 SanFranciscoZionist
I was named for Michal, it is my Hebrew name- she is the only wife noted in the Torah to be described as loving her husband:)
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:58:09pm |
re: #96 goddamnedfrank
Dude was 80 years old. I admire him for chasing his passion but perhaps he wasn't up to pulling sustained G forces anymore, shouldn't have been up there.
I wonder if it was "natural", e.g. like he had a stroke or heart attack or something.
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Targetpractice Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:58:55pm |
re: #92 albusteve
you can pull a lot of G's in a Mustang...the guy was old...who knows
According to what I'm hearing on TV, he was issuing a mayday prior to the crash and was attempting to pull up, so I'm not entirely sure age was key factor. The description quoted sounds like the Mustang pulled into a zoom climb, reached the top, nosed-over, and came straight down.
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:00:39pm |
re: #100 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
According to what I'm hearing on TV, he was issuing a mayday prior to the crash and was attempting to pull up, so I'm not entirely sure age was key factor. The description quoted sounds like the Mustang pulled into a zoom climb, reached the top, nosed-over, and came straight down.
it won't go up unless you back up the stick...sounds like human error to me...these racers are not junk
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:01:28pm |
The plane crashed into the VIP "box seat" area.
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makeitstop Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:01:48pm |
re: #99 CuriousLurker
I wonder if it was "natural", e.g. like he had a stroke or heart attack or something.
I know it's not the best indicator, but the guy looked pretty hearty for 80 years old. Could have been a sudden health problem or mechanical failure.
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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:01:56pm |
re: #100 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
According to what I'm hearing on TV, he was issuing a mayday prior to the crash and was attempting to pull up, so I'm not entirely sure age was key factor. The description quoted sounds like the Mustang pulled into a zoom climb, reached the top, nosed-over, and came straight down.
A P-51 is powerful.
A P-51 modified to race is crazy.
These things have a shit load of power in them.
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blueraven Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:03:27pm |
re: #101 albusteve
it won't go up unless you back up the stick...sounds like human error to me...these racers are not junk
I dont know if this is true but one man said this
Mike Williams of Arizona said there appeared to be an explosion in the sky before the incident happened.
"It looked like he was doing everything he could to salvage the situation, he said.
"It was a freak accident, that's not normal," he said.
[Link: www.rgj.com...]
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:03:37pm |
re: #99 CuriousLurker
I wonder if it was "natural", e.g. like he had a stroke or heart attack or something.
In fairness I'm also guilty of speculating, it could be mechanical and the pilot's age might be totally irrelevant. One things for sure though, this is not how he wanted to be remembered.
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Targetpractice Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:04:45pm |
re: #101 albusteve
it won't go up unless you back up the stick...sounds like human error to me...these racers are not junk
We're not talking something that just came off the factory floor, we're talking aircraft that have been restored more than once in their lives. Could be any of a number of items that were overlooked or were handled incorrectly.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:05:45pm |
re: #87 goddamnedfrank
Not a chance. He went straight in.
[Video]
The guy who keeps chanting 'holy shit' sounds exactly like I feel.
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CuriousLurker Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:06:05pm |
re: #102 HoosierHoops
re: #107 goddamnedfrank
RIP *sigh* You just never know which day is gonna be your last.
In fairness I'm also guilty of speculating, it could also be mechanical and the pilot's age might be totally irrelevant. One things for sure though, this is not how he wanted to be remembered.
Too true. :-(
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:06:40pm |
re: #94 Floral Giraffe
I can't watch that.
I was supposed to go.
So very, very sad.
Glad you're safe.
Sad other people weren't.
Damn.
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MicheleR Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:06:58pm |
Count up to 75 "injured"
[Link: www.suntimes.com...]
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:07:05pm |
re: #103 Charles
The plane crashed into the VIP "box seat" area.
I just saw the footage on Maddow. Damn.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:07:20pm |
re: #109 SanFranciscoZionist
The guy who keeps chanting 'holy shit' sounds exactly like I feel.
Inarticulate profanity is sometimes the most appropriate possible response.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:07:28pm |
re: #96 goddamnedfrank
Dude was 80 years old. I admire him for chasing his passion but perhaps he wasn't up to pulling sustained G forces anymore, shouldn't have been up there.
Or, it could have been mechanical failure that would have happened to a twenty-five year old. No way to tell yet.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:07:43pm |
re: #98 MicheleR
I was named for Michal, it is my Hebrew name- she is the only wife noted in the Torah to be described as loving her husband:)
I love Michal. An amazing, complicated life.
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Kragar Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:07:43pm |
The modern RW, proving people can get dumber every day.
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MicheleR Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:08:10pm |
re: #117 SanFranciscoZionist
Me too, it is an honor to be named for such a woman
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:08:30pm |
re: #108 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
We're not talking something that just came off the factory floor, we're talking aircraft that have been restored more than once in their lives. Could be any of a number of items that were overlooked or were handled incorrectly.
yup, machines break...and in desperation you always want to climb...more air means more options...I dunno, it's a bummer
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Targetpractice Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:10:07pm |
re: #106 blueraven
I dont know if this is true but one man said this
[Link: www.rgj.com...]
An "explosion" changes things. It could be he did purposefully pull into a climb, but lost his engine mid-climb. The description earlier of "full throttle" may be simply of the speed he had coming into the ground rather than engine power. And it's been reported that he was trying to pull up just before he hit, which would be difficult if not impossible in a straight dive with no engine.
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albusteve Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:11:56pm |
re: #121 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
An "explosion" changes things. It could be he did purposefully pull into a climb, but lost his engine mid-climb. The description earlier of "full throttle" may be simply of the speed he had coming into the ground rather than engine power. And it's been reported that he was trying to pull up just before he hit, which would be difficult if not impossible in a straight dive with no engine.
I trust the spectators who claim he had power...you would easily be able to tell the difference....those fuckers roar
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Targetpractice Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:13:40pm |
re: #122 albusteve
I trust the spectators who claim he had power...you would easily be able to tell the difference...those fuckers roar
True, which is what makes the "explosion" so mystifying. Perhaps it was a report in error, I have no clue. Figure we'll learn more in the next few hours/days.
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Tigger2 Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:31:13pm |
I agree with him that some of America is turning away from God and blowhards like Hagee and other preachers like him preaching hate are the cause of some of it.
The hate they preach is not what I remember of the sermons I heard as a youth.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:38:15pm |
Hagee seems to be turning away from God and towards butter and gravy
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:39:13pm |
re: #124 Tigger2
I agree with him that some of America is turning away from God and blowhards like Hagee and other preachers like him preaching hate are the cause of some of it.
The hate they preach is not what I remember of the sermons I heard as a youth.
guys like Hagee are "christian" the way KKK members consider themselves "Christian"
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Achilles Tang Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:17:33pm |
2000 years later, and now is the time to stand up and fix all this crap./
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wheat-dogghazi Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:33:49pm |
re: #31 SanFranciscoZionist
I really love it. I pick at it--especially from a teacher's perspective. (The house system is a terrible idea.) But it's really wonderful reading, and the movies are beautiful.
Houses are SOP in British boarding schools. They're also common in Commonwealth schools, at least they are in South Africa. I have mixed feelings about the houses.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 16, 2011 8:42:37pm |
This is the same guy who routinely insults Catholics and Jews too to justify his sick Holocaust narrative.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Sep 17, 2011 11:17:18am |
Harry Potter is about a lot of people that I would like for my children to aspire to be like.
Brave, kind, intelligent, admiration for intelligence, willing to take a stand (Neville Longbottom was my hero in the series), wisdom.
Hagee in this respect? He's Voldemort.
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Bulworth Mon, Sep 19, 2011 9:01:20am |
I'll just say that in Fundy world, citing HP and secular humanism as the causes of American ruin is what passes for "courage", "standing for something" and "absolute truth" telling.
I'm still amazed at how many otherwise intelligent people suck this stuff up.
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