Fabulous picture. Palms and other primitive plants have such great structure to them.

You realize our fans will call you a tree hugger for that. Great photo.

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

You realize our fans will call you a tree hugger for that. Great photo.

Never could find a way to like hugging trees. Especially not when I ended up having a bunch of ants crawling all over me after the last attempt.

/

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

Continuing on my pedant streak... I think it's actually a tree fern and not a palm... but yeah, Gaia worshipper for sure!!

PAGAN!!

Could Romney unseat Obama?

Gallup: Majority now blame Obama for state of U.S. economy

For the first time in his term, a majority of Americans say that President Obamabears responsibility for the state of the U.S. economy, a new Gallup poll finds.

More Americans say former President George W. Bush is to blame, but that number is slowly dropping as Obama's is ticking upward.

The survey, conducted Sept. 15-18, found that 36% blame Bush "a great deal" and 33% blame him "a moderate amount." By comparison, 24% now blame Obama "a great deal" while 29% blame him "a moderate amount." That's a shift from an 18%/32% split in an April survey.

Romney dominates NH poll, well ahead of Perry

Mitt Romney may be tightening his grip on New Hampshire voters, despite tremendous buzz surrounding Texas Gov. Rick Perry in the nation's first presidential primary state and elsewhere.

The former Massachusetts governor now leads his nearest rival, Texas Rep. Ron Paul, by 27 points among likely New Hampshire voters, according to a Suffolk University-7News poll released Wednesday night. Perry finished far back, earning 8 percent compared with Romney's 41 percent. Paul took 14 percent and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman received 10 percent to round out the top four finishers.

OK, I went & Wiki'd...

Arecaceae or Palmae (also known by the name Palmaceae, which is considered taxonomically invalid,[2] or by the common name palm tree), are a family of flowering plants, the only family in the monocot order Arecales. There are roughly 202 currently known genera with around 2600 species, most of which are restricted to tropical, subtropical, and warm temperate climates. Most palms are distinguished by their large, compound, evergreen leaves arranged at the top of an unbranched stem. However, many palms are exceptions to this statement, and palms in fact exhibit an enormous diversity in physical characteristics. As well as being morphologically diverse, palms also inhabit nearly every type of habitat within their range, from rainforests to deserts.

re: #5 freetoken

Could Romney unseat Obama?

Gallup: Majority now blame Obama for state of U.S. economy

Romney dominates NH poll, well ahead of Perry

I really don't know how I feel about it at this point. Of the GOP candidates, Romney would probably the one I could most stomach. But when you consider that he'd be little more than a puppet, pushed around by a Republican leadership that has become leashed to the Tea Party's whims, it'd be an utter disaster.

re: #7 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

re: #5 freetoken

It is a nightmare either way. Romney is at least not completely insane and not completely stupid. He is though a corporate stooge and everyone knows this.

Mandelbrot!

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #8 LudwigVanQuixote

It is a nightmare either way. Romney is at least not completely insane and not completely stupid. He is though a corporate stooge and everyone knows this.

Exactly. It's basically deciding between nutjob religious fanaticism (Bachmann, Perry, etc.) or naked greed that hates the poor and middle class.

Thanks, but no. Both choices suck.

re: #8 LudwigVanQuixote

And the "good Christians" will oppose him mightily.
He does at least understand running a business.
I'm not a fan, but, well, he's better than Sister Sarah!

re: #5 freetoken

It's gonna be a GOP presidency in 2012, I can say that much.

re: #10 Lidane

I wrote before and I meant it:

I would vote for my dog Max, a cool pile of my dog Max's turds, the upside down skeleton of Mussolini and Charles Manson for president in that order, before any of these wretched, festering clots of GOP scum.

re: #12 laZardo

Please G-d no.

re: #11 Floral Giraffe

And the "good Christians" will oppose him mightily.
He does at least understand running a business.
I'm not a fan, but, well, he's better than Sister Sarah!

He understands running one well enough to by up other companies, bleed them dry, and then let them collapse into bankruptcy, while his walks away with 20 times the initial investment.

re: #9 austin_blue

Mandelbrot!

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #12 laZardo

For a number of reasons polls have a fairly strong conservative bias, and are kind of nonpredictive at this point anyways.

P'll put it up now, Its gonna be Romney/Obama, O wins.

Sigh.

Tree hugging is actually a wilderness survival technique.

Lots of people freak out and panic when they realize they are lost. They'll run and scream and this is bad, because they'll become even more lost than before and be harder to find.

You are supposed to hug a tree when you first realize you are lost to keep from panicking. The physical reality of the tree is supposed to keep you from doing the random freak out.

I've never tested this out myself.

re: #14 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #17 windsagio

Mind, I tend to be the type of extreme cynic that likes to believe nothing good will come out of something until it actually does.

That way, I'm never disappointed! :D

re: #18 EmmmieG

And, the moss grows on the north side of the tree, I was taught!

re: #8 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #5 freetoken

It is a nightmare either way. Romney is at least not completely insane and not completely stupid. He is though a corporate stooge and everyone knows this.

I think the question in the R primaries will be whether the base will vote for a Mormon. Romney is obviously the most attractive candidate for "traditional" R's. But he wears Magic Underwear, which makes a *huge* number of the base molto nervoso. The TPers may jump sideways to Perry, even with his warts. The man has been, if anything, consistently hard right.

We'll see, but I'm not convinced the new rank and file will support Romney.

So I just found out why I have no hope in humanity.

It's not our failure to address global warming.

It's not the execution of Troy Davis on questionable grounds or conversely, ABB getting 20 years tops for 80 cold-blooded murders.

Hell, it's not even their bizarre obsession for My Little Pony.

It's...THIS.

_giggity

re: #20 Floral Giraffe

And, the moss grows on the north side of the tree, I was taught!

And if you bring a whistle, you can just blow it until they find you.

Unless, of course, you were dumb enough to go hiking without telling anyone where you were going, in which case you'd better start trying to figure out north or south.

AndrewBreitbart losing it again:

Said the liar: bit.ly/jSI0JY @Lizardoid Liar. Liar. Liar. Liar. Liar. Liar. Liar. Liar. Liar. Liar. Liar. Liar. Liar. Liar. Liar.

re: #22 laZardo

WUB and I have had this talk about how nothing is gonna change until some cities burn :p

And maybe not then

re: #21 austin_blue

I think the question in the R primaries will be whether the base will vote for a Mormon. Romney is obviously the most attractive candidate for "traditional" R's. But he wears Magic Underwear, which makes a *huge* number of the base molto nervoso. The TPers may jump sideways to Perry, even with his warts. The man has been, if anything, consistently hard right.

We'll see, but I'm not convinced the new rank and file will support Romney.

I personally think it will go to Perry. He has the right "folksy idiot" ring to him for the base.

re: #27 LudwigVanQuixote

It just about ALWAYS goes to 'next in line' and 'highest name recognition', that's how the GOP primary works.

Both of those are Romney.

re: #25 Charles

AndrewBreitbart losing it again:

Reason why the soon to be crushed by his lies about Sherrod master of slander and other lies is so upset at you?

re: #1 Floral Giraffe

Fabulous picture. Palms and other primitive plants have such great structure to them.

I don't know about palms, but the Gingko leaf is the exact opposite of fractal. Your typical broadleaf tree has a fractal vein structure. The gingko leaf doesn't. Each strand goes straight to the base of the leaf. Google please? Right. The petiole. I knew that. {not so much}

By analogy, palm fronds, too, wouldn't be fractal, if memory serves and palms evolved earlier than gymnosperm trees.

But it's a really nice photo and it has two or three iterations of a pattern so it's kind of sort of fractal. Good enough for purposes of characterizing a photo.

This pedantic nitpicking post now, mercifully, ends. Enjoy your photos, non-semi-autistics of the world. :-)

re: #28 windsagio

It just about ALWAYS goes to 'next in line' and 'highest name recognition', that's how the GOP primary works.

Both of those are Romney.

Yeah, save when it went to W. Bush...

re: #25 Charles

Oh goody. The more Breitbart flips his shit, the more I laugh.

If nothing else, he's entertaining. It's like watching a fat neckbeard douchebag gamer threaten to kick someone's ass for insulting their favorite game. Heh.

re: #25 Charles

I can't stand his page with the big photos of himself. What a self absorbed douche he is!

re: #31 LudwigVanQuixote

thus almost :p

Who was the heir apparent that time? I'd argue that Bush DID have the highest name recognition.

Edit: Even if they had him confused with his dad :p

re: #28 windsagio

It just about ALWAYS goes to 'next in line' and 'highest name recognition', that's how the GOP primary works.

Both of those are Romney.

That was true before Obama and before the GOP base completely flipped their shit.

These days? I'm not so sure.

re: #31 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah, save when it went to W. Bush...

He was a legacy pledge...

re: #32 Lidane

Oh goody. The more Breitbart flips his shit, the more I laugh.

If nothing else, he's entertaining. It's like watching a fat neckbeard douchebag gamer threaten to kick someone's ass for insulting their favorite game. Heh.

YOU SHOULD HANG OUT ON /v/.

You don't even need to pay subscription fees. ;)

Hey Andy, how is your defence doing? LIAR!

re: #21 austin_blue

I think the question in the R primaries will be whether the base will vote for a Mormon. Romney is obviously the most attractive candidate for "traditional" R's. But he wears Magic Underwear, which makes a *huge* number of the base molto nervoso. The TPers may jump sideways to Perry, even with his warts. The man has been, if anything, consistently hard right.

We'll see, but I'm not convinced the new rank and file will support Romney.

Agreed, while Romney polls well up in the Northeast and perhaps out Utah way and further West, Perry's more likely to carry everything between. He's not only "one of us" to the Bible-thumping crowd, but he's also pretty much camping on the very fringes of the far-Right.

Meanwhile, Bachmann's still self-destructing, Cain's a joke, Huntsman comes off as trying too hard, Santorum's a non-entity, and Crazy Uncle Ron is spending his political twilight once again tilting at windmills.

re: #5 freetoken

Could Romney unseat Obama?

Gallup: Majority now blame Obama for state of U.S. economy

Romney dominates NH poll, well ahead of Perry

Talk about counting chickens before eggs hatch. Romney is a long ways from sewing up the nomination, much less winning the general election. It isn't even for sure that Obama will be the Dem nominee. If he looks like he'd lose in the general election, there could well be a tussle for the nomination.

Those who know the future come in 10 varieties. The ones who lie, and the self-deluded.

(Binary joke.)

re: #25 Charles

haha that guy loves his twitter

re: #37 laZardo

YOU SHOULD HANG OUT ON /v/.

You don't even need to pay subscription fees. ;)

Before grad school, I was a pretty hardcore MMO gamer. The MMORPG.com boards provide plenty of fat, bitter neckbeards bitching about games for my entertainment needs. Hehe. ;)

re: #38 LudwigVanQuixote

Hey Andy, how is your defence doing? LIAR!

eh, never mind link didn't work

re: #24 EmmmieG

Or, keep going down hill until you find water, the build cities along water, you will eventually find people, is what my hillbilly friends were taught!

re: #42 Lidane

Before grad school, I was a pretty hardcore MMO gamer. The MMORPG.com boards provide plenty of fat, bitter neckbeards bitching about games for my entertainment needs. Hehe. ;)

You should di/v/ersify. It's amazing to see what they get riled up and/or start trolling about.

EDIT: This season it's gonna be Battlefield 3 vs. Modern Warfare 3. OH THE FIREWORKS

Ok, when did the neckbeard thing start spreading?

Used to be a pretty rare insult.

re: #42 Lidane

Before grad school, I was a pretty hardcore MMO gamer. The MMORPG.com boards provide plenty of fat, bitter neckbeards bitching about games for my entertainment needs. Hehe. ;)

oh god MMO beardos

re: #42 Lidane

Before grad school, I was a pretty hardcore MMO gamer. The MMORPG.com boards provide plenty of fat, bitter neckbeards bitching about games for my entertainment needs. Hehe. ;)

Fear the neckbeards

re: #46 windsagio

Ok, when did the neckbeard thing start spreading?

Used to be a pretty rare insult.

Technically it refers to fa/tg/uys where /tg/ stands for the "Traditional Games" board. Of course, the general mom's-basement-nerd category spreads over most of the *chan board categories.

re: #44 Floral Giraffe

Or, keep going down hill until you find water, the build cities along water, you will eventually find people, is what my hillbilly friends were taught!

Yep. Downhill. And don't eat white berries.

Wilderness survival was mandatory in our high schools.

re: #49 laZardo

WUB, XXX, and I have been making fun of neckbeards for like 15 years :p

/possessive

re: #50 EmmmieG

Yep. Downhill. And don't eat white berries.

Wilderness survival was mandatory in our high schools.

Well, unless it's those hybrid raspberries they sell in the farmer's markets now.

Fractal Palm Against Sky

don make me hallucinate mon

re: #40 lostlakehiker

Talk about counting chickens before eggs hatch. Romney is a long ways from sewing up the nomination, much less winning the general election. It isn't even for sure that Obama will be the Dem nominee. If he looks like he'd lose in the general election, there could well be a tussle for the nomination.

Those who know the future come in 10 varieties. The ones who lie, and the self-deluded.

(Binary joke.)

Yeah, I've heard about the far-Left grousing that they need to primary Obama, so that they can "force" him to run to the Left in order to secure the nomination or replace him with someone more to their liking.

Or, in other words, Nader and a couple dozen self-appointed "leaders" of the Left wish to commit political seppuku by making the DNC appear every bit as nutty as the GOP.

music

re: #45 laZardo

You should di/v/ersify. It's amazing to see what they get riled up and/or start trolling about.

EDIT: This season it's gonna be Battlefield 3 vs. Modern Warfare 3. OH THE FIREWORKS

Oh, that might be fun. The endless Guild Wars 2 vs. Star Wars: The Old Republic debates are getting tiring. Console fanboys are much more hilarious.

re: #45 laZardo

You should di/v/ersify. It's amazing to see what they get riled up and/or start trolling about.

EDIT: This season it's gonna be Battlefield 3 vs. Modern Warfare 3. OH THE FIREWORKS

MW3? You mean the MW2 map-pack that they're selling for full price? Yeah, no thanks.

Huntsman is running for the 2016 nomination. He can't win this one, though he should. If, however, the Republicans nominate a hapless loser who finds a path to defeat, that might, just might, be a lesson to Republican primary voters: don't dumpster dive for candidates.

Huntsman speaks several languages, knows some science or at least recognizes that scientists know some science, and he's been ambassador to China.

One party rule never works for long. The temptations are just irresistible. Sooner or later, the Republicans are going to have a scandal to run against that's so juicy they're bound to win. When that day comes, there needs to be a grownup at the helm of the Republican party. Huntsman could be that grownup.

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

You realize our fans will call you a tree hugger for that. Great photo.

Who cares what those loons think?

Sorry I dropped out for a bit. i was doing lead research.

re: #56 Lidane

The console wars have pretty much died out. Now it's the PC "Master Race" vs. Consoles in general.

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

Who cares what those loons think?

Sorry I dropped out for a bit. i was doing lead research.

Who researches lead? I mean, don't we pretty much already know everything about it? It's soft, heavy, and toxic is even moderate amounts. And if you're very daring, you use it in liquid form to cool your reactors.

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re: #58 lostlakehiker

Good luck getting the Fox Victory Mosque Dupes to vote for a grownup in this environment. You'll need it.

re: #60 laZardo

The console wars have pretty much died out. Now it's the PC "Master Race" vs. Consoles in general.

You mean the console game playing peasants vs. the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race?

re: #54 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, I've heard about the far-Left grousing that they need to primary Obama, so that they can "force" him to run to the Left in order to secure the nomination or replace him with someone more to their liking.

Or, in other words, Nader and a couple dozen self-appointed "leaders" of the Left wish to commit political seppuku by making the DNC appear every bit as nutty as the GOP.

I was reading some crap from Nader just yesterday to that effect and I remember thinking that someday soon, old age will be very kind to the Democratic Party... :eek:

re: #50 EmmmieG

Yep. Downhill. And don't eat white berries.

Wilderness survival was mandatory in our high schools.

Going downhill and following streams is a bad idea. Gullies and ravines make the going treacherous.

Finding water, finding shelter from the elements, and improving it and marking up your vicinity so you can be found, now that's a good idea. You won't die of hunger any time soon. Most of us could last a month or two without food. Rescue rarely takes that long to arrive.

re: #64 wlewisiii

Nader is the reason for the Bush administration.

/ x:

re: #58 lostlakehiker

If, however, the Republicans nominate a hapless loser who finds a path to defeat

At the rate the GOP is going right now, this is a pretty safe bet, especially if they force a government shutdown again.

Huntsman speaks several languages, knows some science or at least recognizes that scientists know some science, and he's been ambassador to China.

He's also a rich Mormon who resigned his governorship to serve alongside the Seekrit Mooslim Kenyan Overlord that the GOP base hates beyond all reason.

Huntsman could be the grownup in the room if the GOP base wasn't made up of so many reactionary types that he'd have to pander to.

re: #64 wlewisiii

I was reading some crap from Nader just yesterday to that effect and I remember thinking that someday soon, old age will be very kind to the Democratic Party... :eek:

Yeah, apparently Nader's decided that he's no longer content to just play the third-party spoiler anymore and has graduated to orchestrating anarchy within the Dem ranks.

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

Who cares what those loons think?

Sorry I dropped out for a bit. i was doing lead research.

You want either wheel-wieghts or Lyman #2. They heat treat the best.

re: #64 wlewisiii

I was reading some crap from Nader just yesterday to that effect and I remember thinking that someday soon, old age will be very kind to the Democratic Party... :eek:

I'm waiting for Nader to offer himself up as the noble sacrifice from the left to run against Obama. His ego won't allow for anything else.

re: #63 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

You mean the console game playing peasants vs. the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race?

I always enjoy my buddies telling me that they have a bug in a game, I give them the fix and they ask "Does that work on my console?"

HAHAHA... no

re: #60 laZardo

The console wars have pretty much died out. Now it's the PC "Master Race" vs. Consoles in general.

Oh, that might be interesting. If the MMO beards aren't debating GW2 vs. SWTOR, they're whining about how "themepark" games (i.e., damn near every MMO out there) have pushed "sandbox" games like Star Wars Galaxies and Ultima Online to the verge of extinction. Or they're bitching about the "free-to-play" pay model that has been becoming more prominent.

An old fashioned PC vs. console flame war might be fun.

re: #54 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, I've heard about the far-Left grousing that they need to primary Obama, so that they can "force" him to run to the Left in order to secure the nomination or replace him with someone more to their liking.

So *stupid*. Those types will find anything to grouse about.

I love asking any of them, so um, when has that EVER worked??

And what name ya' got for 2012, DNC 12 is just a year away, tick-tock.

re: #71 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I always enjoy my buddies telling me that they have a bug in a game, I give them the fix and they ask "Does that work on my console?"

HAHAHA... no

I've had to give up PC gaming for awhile, as my computer's a virtual Cold War relic these days, which between the general march of time and some of my less intelligent efforts to boost its performance, has become totally shiite when trying to run anything more demanding than Minecraft.

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

Who cares what those loons think?

Sorry I dropped out for a bit. i was doing lead research.

Does that mean you were trying to find a link between lead paint and Teapartyism?

As to our fans.. I don't mean the stalkers. Who cares about them? They were a lot of fun to mock for a while, Rodent could be so earnest...but all in all, they are too pathetic to keep my interest.

I mean our fans like the little Breitbart fanboyz, Hot Airheads and Atlas Sucked fanatics.

re: #72 Lidane

Oh, that might be interesting. If the MMO beards aren't debating GW2 vs. SWTOR, they're whining about how "themepark" games (i.e., damn near every MMO out there) have pushed the sandbox games like Star Wars Galaxies and Ultima Online to the verge of extinction. Or they're bitching about the "free-to-play" pay model that has been becoming more prominent.

An old fashioned PC vs. console flame war might be fun.

The stark hypocrisy of them bitching about the "free to play" model while simultaneously starting Team Fortress 2 hat-trading threads (one time initiated with an infamous Jewish caricature laden with TF2 hats in typical 4chan fashion) is downright hilarious.

re: #72 Lidane

Oh, that might be interesting. If the MMO beards aren't debating GW2 vs. SWTOR, they're whining about how "themepark" games (i.e., damn near every MMO out there) have pushed "sandbox" games like Star Wars Galaxies and Ultima Online to the verge of extinction. Or they're bitching about the "free-to-play" pay model that has been becoming more prominent.

An old fashioned PC vs. console flame war might be fun.

Of course, MMOs are no match for a good ole fashioned tabletop wargame.

Mmm. Yes. This will help.

Clinton likes Romney and Huntsman best of the group.

Of course, he doesn't actually want any Republicans to win, does he?

I mean, that would leave his wife free to run in 2016...

Am I a cynic?

[Link: www.deseretnews.com...]

re: #74 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I've had to give up PC gaming for awhile, as my computer's a virtual Cold War relic these days, which between the general march of time and some of my less intelligent efforts to boost its performance, has become totally shiite when trying to run anything more demanding than Minecraft.

That would make my 2004 Dell laptop a goddamn survivor. It's had individual parts replace but no complete conkout yet.

re: #75 LudwigVanQuixote

Atlas Sucked

rotfl!

re: #77 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Of course, MMOs are no match for a good ole fashioned tabletop wargame.

Right. 'Cause there's nothing like a good 5 hour Risk game.

re: #54 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, I've heard about the far-Left grousing that they need to primary Obama, so that they can "force" him to run to the Left in order to secure the nomination or replace him with someone more to their liking.

Or, in other words, Nader and a couple dozen self-appointed "leaders" of the Left wish to commit political seppuku by making the DNC appear every bit as nutty as the GOP.

Yeah... without them we would have had President Gore and a much much better world.

re: #77 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Of course, MMOs are no match for a good ole fashioned tabletop wargame.

That's what /tg/ is for.

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re: #81 EmmmieG

Right. 'Cause there's nothing like a good 5 hour Risk game.

Risk? Thats not a wargame.

This is a table top wargame.

Image: 46001_sm-Warhammer%20World,%20Amazing%20gaming%20table.JPG

re: #80 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

rotfl!

Thanks... I think I am going to use Atlas Sucked a little more. It has just the right level of disgust, contempt and humor I want to convey.

re: #76 laZardo

The stark hypocrisy of them bitching about the "free to play" model while simultaneously starting Team Fortress 2 hat-trading threads (one time initiated with an infamous Jewish caricature laden with TF2 hats in typical 4chan fashion) is downright hilarious.

One of the greatest things I ever saw was a voiced PowerPoint presentation from an EA developer for Battlefield Heroes. When they offered virtual goods for sale, they got all these massive flame wars on their boards for it, so they decided to research the biggest flame warriors. Turns out they were the biggest consumers of virtual goods:

[Link: www.slideshare.net...]

It's 42 minutes long, but totally worth it.

re: #79 laZardo

That would make my 2004 Dell laptop a goddamn survivor. It's had individual parts replace but no complete conkout yet.

The only major problem I've had yet were of the HDD variety, this last time due to a corrupted BOOT file that forced me to do a total restore to factory-defaults. Unfortunately, I've not the money right now to afford even a cheap replacement, so I'm soldiering on until either the motherboard or video card expire (knock on wood) or until I can get a better paying job.

re: #78 EmmmieG

Mmm. Yes. This will help.

Clinton likes Romney and Huntsman best of the group.

Of course, he doesn't actually want any Republicans to win, does he?

I mean, that would leave his wife free to run in 2016...

Am I a cynic?

[Link: www.deseretnews.com...]

Hillary will be almost 70 in 2016. I don't think she'll run.

re: #87 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I hear you. I'm planning to build my own PC (hopefully one for $1000ish that won't be obsolete in 2 years) and then get a netbook for the "outside." All I gotta do is save up for that. D:

re: #84 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Risk? Thats not a wargame.

This is a table top wargame.

Image: 46001_sm-Warhammer%20World,%20Amazing%20gaming%20t able.JPG

That? That's what? A couple of hours?

This is is a board game:
[Link: www.boardgamegeek.com...]

Image: pic433510.jpg

:lol:

re: #84 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Risk? Thats not a wargame.

This is a table top wargame.

Image: 46001_sm-Warhammer%20World,%20Amazing%20gaming%20t able.JPG

Please tell me that the person that built that either had a lot of help, or was a medical shut-in.

re: #88 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Hillary will be almost 70 in 2016. I don't think she'll run.

I don't think she wants to run.
She has certainly done her service to the country.

re: #91 EmmmieG

Or, had lots of small children to help?

re: #91 EmmmieG

Please tell me that the person that built that either had a lot of help, or was a medical shut-in.

Its usually a team job.

re: #92 Floral Giraffe

I don't think she wants to run.
She has certainly done her service to the country.

Yep. She gave up on the Oval when she accepted State.

re: #90 wlewisiii

I remember when SSI made computer games on the hexagon system.

Had Panzer General 2 once until the disc literally shattered in the disc drive.

;_;

re: #93 Floral Giraffe

Or, had lots of small children to help?

I'm beginning to think that if there is a "gaming" gene, evolution is working against it.

re: #89 laZardo

I hear you. I'm planning to build my own PC (hopefully one for $1000ish that won't be obsolete in 2 years) and then get a netbook for the "outside." All I gotta do is save up for that. D:

Well, there's a third option, which would be to try to rebuild my sister's recently discarded PC into a working one, as it's three years younger than my own. Problem is, it was discarded because both the motherboard and video card burnt out. Really, by the time I spent the money to replace those, I'd be pretty close to a bargain-basement PC anyway.

re: #97 EmmmieG

I'm beginning to think that if there is a "gaming" gene, evolution is working against it.

Nope, it can pass down.

re: #98 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, there's a third option, which would be to try to rebuild my sister's recently discarded PC into a working one, as it's three years younger than my own. Problem is, it was discarded because both the motherboard and video card burnt out. Really, by the time I spent the money to replace those, I'd be pretty close to a bargain-basement PC anyway.

There was a couple-months-old magazine in my apartment lobby advertising net-PCs (or net-tops?) you can build for $300. O_O

re: #99 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Nope, it can pass down.

If there is hope, it must lie with the gamers. - George Orwell

/well, he should have said that

re: #100 laZardo

There was a couple-months-old magazine in my apartment lobby advertising net-PCs (or net-tops?) you can build for $300. O_O

I'm not looking for a netbook, I'm looking for a PC capable of playing at least the most recent games. There are so many New Vegas mods out there that I'd love to play around with, but I'm stuck to the console right now.

re: #99 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Nope, it can pass down.

Whoever built that set-up has a girlfriend?

re: #101 laZardo

If there is hope, it must lie with the gamers. - George Orwell

/well, he should have said that

Thats science!

Gamers solve molecular puzzle that baffled scientists

re: #102 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm not looking for a netbook, I'm looking for a PC capable of playing at least the most recent games. There are so many New Vegas mods out there that I'd love to play around with, but I'm stuck to the console right now.

That's probably going to be a four-digiter then. D: There should be some guides somewhere on the best stuff to get for X-amount-of-money.

re: #104 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats science!

Gamers solve molecular puzzle that baffled scientists

And then hacked into the servers when they realized they wouldn't get individual recognition.

//

Gotta go splat. G'night all!

re: #103 EmmmieG

Whoever built that set-up has a girlfriend?

Obviously you've never heard of one of the most feared armies of the 40th millennium, the Hello Kitty Sisters of Battle.

re: #108 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obviously you've never heard of one of the most feared armies of the 40th millennium, the Hello Kitty Sisters of Battle.

I stand corrected.

re: #105 laZardo

That's probably going to be a four-digiter then. D: There should be some guides somewhere on the best stuff to get for X-amount-of-money.

I'm mostly aimed at getting a pre-built PC, because I have neither the skill nor the patience to construct one myself. And the only friend I know who has both, I haven't spoken to in roughly a year.

re: #108 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

MOTHER OF GOD.

...

_:3

now that i have a wide scream teevee, i can finally appreciate the really amazing mis en scene of rebel without a cause

re: #108 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obviously you've never heard of one of the most feared armies of the 40th millennium, the Hello Kitty Sisters of Battle.

...

*facepalm*

re: #110 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm mostly aimed at getting a pre-built PC, because I have neither the skill nor the patience to construct one myself. And the only friend I know who has both, I haven't spoken to in roughly a year.

We have never bought a pre-built. Mr. EmmmieG builds them all.

The funny part is the way he talks to me about it as if I would know. As if I have any idea what he's talking about.

brb dinner

in the meantime warm your hearts with this

re: #108 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OK, I just bookmarked that.
It inspires me, every time you post it.

re: #61 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Who researches lead? I mean, don't we pretty much already know everything about it? It's soft, heavy, and toxic is even moderate amounts. And if you're very daring, you use it in liquid form to cool your reactors.

///

SMACK!

re: #114 EmmmieG

We have never bought a pre-built. Mr. EmmmieG builds them all.

The funny part is the way he talks to me about it as if I would know. As if I have any idea what he's talking about.

Well, the other part of it is that I have no real confidence in my skills. I've worked on PCs before and even took an A+ class some years back. But I pretty much like the assurance that, if the first time I turn on my PC, the magic smoke comes billowing out, I can box it up and take it back rather than trying to figure out where I screwed up and just how much money I'm out.

re: #108 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obviously you've never heard of one of the most feared armies of the 40th millennium, the Hello Kitty Sisters of Battle.

And how do they do against the Chaos Marines?

re: #77 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Of course, MMOs are no match for a good ole fashioned tabletop wargame.

I can't do the whole tabletop wargame thing. I don't have anything against it, but my idea of tabletop gaming is a good game of Settlers of Catan or Carcassonne. Or the Munchkin games.

A tabletop wargame would have me threatening to strangle people just to move things along faster. Heh.

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

And how do they do against the Chaos Marines?

Not too bad. They're just as shooty, not quite as tough, but they have some other abilities.

re: #121 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Not too bad. They're just as shooty, not quite as tough, but they have some other abilities.

I bet they're good at distractions.

All this talk about gaming has got me wanting to get back to work and finish Deus Ex...hmm, maybe later today.

re: #122 EmmmieG

I bet they're good at distractions.

Nuns with flame throwers can have that effect.

Hey laZardo, "Show email".

My previous comments notwithstanding, Ludwig, you do seem to have gotten "Dorkus" to fixate on you again. He's posting his venom as usual. It's not important, though, just lame.

I'm going to turn in. Goodnight all.

Sigh.
I'm now babysitting an 8 week old kitteh.
Help me!
:P

re: #128 Varek Raith

Get out some string, wear out the little one!

re: #128 Varek Raith

Sigh.
I'm now babysitting an 8 week old kitteh.
Help me!
:P

Want help? Here, easy enough: Acknowledge it as your god, pledge to do everything in your power to make it happy, and promise swift death to its enemies.

//

Hey all!

How is the night going?

re: #129 Floral Giraffe

Get out some string, wear out the little one!

She finally went to sleep.

How do I get dragged into these things?!?!
I got to stop being so nice!
:)

re: #130 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Want help? Here, easy enough: Acknowledge it as your god, pledge to do everything in your power to make it happy, and promise swift death to its enemies.

//

Sounds like some good BDSM!

So, a good friend of ours (hubby and I) started talking to me today about end-times bullshit. He was serious about it.

I told him I thought it was a Protestant thing because we RC weren't into it.

Not taking the hint, he kept going.

I finally said that I was taught that Free Will negated pre-determination (prophecy).

I mean, really, when someone you like and respect brings up this BS, how do you handle it?

re: #134 ggt

Ignore it, offer to talk of other things.
I my case, I pulled my car off the highway & explained we could either change the subject or he could walk home.
That did the trick!

re: #133 Floral Giraffe

Sounds like some good BSDM!

It's what I've been trained to recite in the presence of my cats. What they don't know is I know they're plotting to get rid of me. But little do they realize that the electric can-opener is broken and without opposable thumbs, the hand-operated opener is useless to them. Now we'll see who gets the last lau...*Carrier Lost*

re: #136 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It's what I've been trained to recite in the presence of my cats. What they don't know is I know they're plotting to get rid of me. But little do they realize that the electric can-opener is broken and without opposable thumbs, the hand-operated opener is useless to them. Now we'll see who gets the last lau...*Carrier Lost*

ZERG RUSH!

re: #136 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It's what I've been trained to recite in the presence of my cats. What they don't know is I know they're plotting to get rid of me. But little do they realize that the electric can-opener is broken and without opposable thumbs, the hand-operated opener is useless to them. Now we'll see who gets the last lau...*Carrier Lost*

Yeah, you learned that Humans are the other white meat, didn't you?

LOL

My sister's previous cat knew the sound of a can opener.
He'd come barreling into the kitchen, "WHERE'S THE TUNA!!!"

re: #135 Floral Giraffe

Ignore it, offer to talk of other things.
I my case, I pulled my car off the highway & explained we could either change the subject or he could walk home.
That did the trick!

I couldn't ignore, I had to confront it.

I just wanted to scream.

re: #133 Floral Giraffe

Sounds like some good BDSM!

Having cats is pretty good training for BDSM, since the kittehs are in charge and aren't afraid to draw blood to reinforce the point. ;)

THEN on my fb is another friend warning against Gardasil.

WTF?

I felt surrounded.

re: #139 Varek Raith

My sister's previous cat knew the sound of a can opener.
He'd come barreling into the kitchen, "WHERE'S THE TUNA!!!"

Both of my cats know the sound of a tuna can opening.

Any time I make something with tuna, I have to use two cans, just so I can drain them both into two separate bowls and give the cats the water to drink.

re: #141 Lidane

Having cats is pretty good training for BDSM, since the kittehs are in charge and aren't afraid to draw blood to reinforce the point. ;)

Yeah, they quickly make it clear who owns who in the relationship. And if you think you're the one in charge, they're quick to correct that line of thought.

re: #134 ggt

I mean, really, when someone you like and respect brings up this BS, how do you handle it?

Show him the tattoo on the back of your neck that says "666"?

re: #139 Varek Raith

My sister's previous cat knew the sound of a can opener.
He'd come barreling into the kitchen, "WHERE'S THE TUNA!!!"

He also knew the sound of whip cream being sprayed.
That cat would eat anything and love it.

re: #143 Lidane

Both of my cats know the sound of a tuna can opening.

Any time I make something with tuna, I have to use two cans, just so I can drain them both into two separate bowls and give the cats the water to drink.

I don't even have to open the can. I can just pick up a tuna can and tap on it a few times and they come a-runnin'. I have to admit I've been evil a time or two, using that trick to get them out in the open long enough to catch them and cram them in a cage for vet appointments.

re: #147 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I don't even have to open the can. I can just pick up a tuna can and tap on it a few times and they come a-runnin'. I have to admit I've been evil a time or two, using it that trick to get them out in the open long enough to catch them and cram them in a cage for vet appointments.

Would you like to be buried or cremated???
/

re: #147 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I don't even have to open the can. I can just pick up a tuna can and tap on it a few times and they come a-runnin'. I have to admit I've been evil a time or two, using it that trick to get them out in the open long enough to catch them and cram them in a cage for vet appointments.

My Cat Overlord hasn't been to the vet for 2 years.

I swear he overhears me make the appointment and watches the calendar. On that day, he does his temporal quantum entanglement schtick and literally disappears.

re: #148 Varek Raith

Would you like to be buried or cremated???
/

Cremated, then my ashes mixed with black powder and shot out of a cannon.

Hey, if it was good enough for Hunter S. Thompson, it's good enough for me!

/

re: #139 Varek Raith

My sister's previous cat knew the sound of a can opener.
He'd come barreling into the kitchen, "WHERE'S THE TUNA!!!"

you are in possession of fish

FISH BELONGS TO CATS!!!!!

It is important to remember that your CAT is not a domesticated animal.

He/she is purely a wild animal that chooses to oversee your life.

BE THANKFUL!

re: #152 ggt

It is important to remember that your CAT is not a domesticated animal.

He/she is purely a wild animal that chooses to oversee your life.

BE THANKFUL!

My ghost cat agrees.
I miss her.
:)

re: #150 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Cremated, then my ashes mixed with black powder and shot out of a cannon.

Hey, if it was good enough for Hunter S. Thompson, it's good enough for me!

/

That is so awesome!

I want to be cremated and buried under an old oak tree. With my grave clearly marked.

I must have druidic genes because I figure my "essence" will melt with the tree's and people can come talk to us for years to come.

:)

re: #153 Varek Raith

My ghost cat agrees.
I miss her.
:)

Still haunting you?

re: #149 ggt

My Cat Overlord hasn't been to the vet for 2 years.

I swear he overhears me make the appointment and watches the calendar. On that day, he does his temporal quantum entanglement schtick and literally disappears.

Our three have differing scales of frustration. The eldest cat, who's also the smallest, is pretty easy. Just scoop her up, guide her into the cage, and off you go.

The second eldest, our big grey tomcat, is almost as easy. But he also knows the sound of a cat carrier opening and bolts for cover immediately.

Our youngest, another big grey furball (though this one female) jumps if you move at her at anything more than a crawl, so catching her is always a joy. Tried to catch her once just by myself and spent 20 minutes doing so before my dad showed up and we corralled her.

re: #156 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Our three have differing scales of frustration. The eldest cat, who's also the smallest, is pretty easy. Just scoop her up, guide her into the cage, and off you go.

The second eldest, our big grey tomcat, is almost as easy. But he also knows the sound of a cat carrier opening and bolts for cover immediately.

Our youngest, another big grey furball (though this one female) jumps if you move at her at anything more than a crawl, so catching her is always a joy. Tried to catch her once just by myself and spent 20 minutes doing so before my dad showed up and we corralled her.

LOL

Monster Puppy is gone on his 3-state show tour for 4 days. Cat Overlord is not pleased. He was not consulted.

I think he is bored without he puppy to mess with.

Older dogs seem relieved.

re: #157 ggt

LOL

Even worse, the youngest also has sleek, glossy fur, meaning she can slide out of anything other than a death grip. And she can move at an appreciable fraction of the speed of sound, so even for two people, it's a chore to catch her.

re: #159 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Even worse, the youngest also has sleek, glossy fur, meaning she can slid out of anything other than a death grip. And she can move at an appreciable fraction of the speed of sound, so even for two people, it's a chore to catch her.

I can usually get mine to appear by taking out the slicker brush--somehow he knows when it is moved.

Not when it is vet visit time tho.

Did I tell you-all that Monster Puppy ate my Bluetooth?

re: #160 ggt

I can usually get mine to appear by taking out the slicker brush--somehow he knows when it is moved.

Not when it is vet visit time tho.

This one spends most of her time trying to avoid human contact anyway. Our eldest two cats we adopted off the street, and both of them came to us, so they're not afraid of us. Our youngest was given to us by a neighbor, who had in turn received her from their elderly mother who had been raising the cat for roughly a year. So this cat is totally neurotic, though she's slowly mellowing out as time goes along.

re: #161 ggt

Did I tell you-all that Monster Puppy ate my Bluetooth?

Lol.

re: #161 ggt

Did I tell you-all that Monster Puppy ate my Bluetooth?

rotfl

I love Monster Puppy.

Did anyone hear Crazy Pam's head explode?

re: #164 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

rotfl

I love Monster Puppy.

I love him too.

I just don't likeliving with him very much most of the time.

Well, I must be off as well. Anyone needs me, I'll be in my bunk.

Georgia puts convict to death despite protest

PaulBot can't talk his way out of a DUI

re: #168 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Georgia puts convict to death despite protest

Thats really crappy. There seemed to some serious issues with that case.

re: #169 BigPapa

PaulBot can't talk his way out of a DUI

They featured that on an episode of Attack of the Show.

Then they clipped the "RON PAUL!" soundbite and played that randomly throughout the episode afterwards.

XD

Sweet Dreams all!

I leave you with a peaceful song.

Like one out of every four people in our country today, this man weighs more than he should. If he loses those excess pounds - brings his weight down to normal and keeps it there - he will look and feel better. Furthermore, he will probably live longer. Statistics show that if weight is more than 10 per cent above normal, life expectancy is usually reduced about twenty per cent.

- Met Life ad, March 1949

re: #165 ggt

Did anyone hear Crazy Pam's head explode?

Dang, and a day after DADT repeal, too.

Sux to be a socon, I guess.

Just for the record: the plant pictured is not a palm.
It's an Australian tree fern.

Tea Partiers: Light Rail an Invitation to Al Qaeda
Guess we shouldn't build tall buildings.
Or nuclear plants.
Or reservoirs.
Or airplanes.
Or boats.
Or, ah fuck it, we shouldn't live, you know, terrorists might git us.
Or something.

re: #177 Varek Raith

That's a stupid idea anyway. You can't make a rail out of light!

re: #178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's a stupid idea anyway. You can't make a rail out of light!

Lol.
Thanks, I feel better now.

re: #178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, you can't make a political party out of tea either, but that's not going to stop them from trying.

I was so afraid I'd have insomnia this morning, I couldn't sleep at all.

Amusing glitch over at RedState:

[Link: www.redstate.com...]

It looks like some admin posted the daily "Morning Briefing" over and over again. There are 12 of them on the front page! hehehe.

Also - a very Christian first story of the day over there: "There is No Travesty of Justice in Georgia." Stay classy, Erik Son of Erik.

re: #182 Alexzander

Amusing glitch over at RedState:

[Link: www.redstate.com...]

It looks like some admin posted the daily "Morning Briefing" over and over again. There are 12 of them on the front page! hehehe.

Also - a very Christian first story of the day over there: "There is No Travesty of Justice in Georgia." Stay classy, Erik Son of Erik.

Their server probably has hiccups.
;)

re: #183 Varek Raith

Heh yeah. I cannot access any of the diaries either. I scrolled through older pages and found that the "morning briefing" has been posted at least 30 times. Someone might get fired.

Morning, all

re: #184 Alexzander

Heh yeah. I cannot access any of the diaries either. I scrolled through older pages and found that the "morning briefing" has been posted at least 30 times. Someone might get fired.

Redstate fall down and go BOOM!
-Tweety

re: #186 Varek Raith

Morning people!

re: #182 Alexzander

.....
Also - a very Christian first story of the day over there: "There is No Travesty of Justice in Georgia." Stay classy, Erik Son of Erik.

It's entirely possible that Davis did kill a cop but there is sufficient reason for doubt. IMO, unless they're 100% positive they shouldn't be giving someone the needle.

'Morning, all. I see Georgia has opened an execution gap with Alabama. Don't worry, we're about to come from behind:

[Link: www.thenation.com...]

re: #190 Decatur Deb

'Morning, all. I see Georgia has opened an execution gap with Alabama. Don't worry, we're about to come from behind:

[Link: www.thenation.com...]

On the positive side of the death penalty, Texas did kill a guy that deserved worse than he got.

re: #191 RogueOne

On the positive side of the death penalty, Texas did kill a guy that deserved worse than he got.

No, Texas gave him what he wanted--I quoted Brewer last night saying he preferred death to life in prison. He should have been deprived of that, to protect the fairly rare innocent convict.

re: #192 Decatur Deb

No, Texas gave him what he wanted--I quoted Brewer last night saying he preferred death to life in prison. He should have been deprived of that, to protect the fairly rare innocent convict.

When I said he got better than he deserved I meant they should have strapped him to the back of a state highway dept. truck and dragged him across the state. I'm not necessarily against the DP (the planet would be better off with some people not on it), I just don't trust our judicial system enough to believe only the truly guilty get the DP. In this case, Brewer was truly guilty.

re: #193 RogueOne

When I said he got better than he deserved I meant they should have strapped him to the back of a state highway dept. truck and dragged him across the state. I'm not necessarily against the DP (the planet would be better off with some people not on it), I just don't trust our judicial system enough to believe only the truly guilty get the DP. In this case, Brewer was truly guilty.

We're close on this--just answered on your link.

re: #194 Decatur Deb

We're on the same boat I think. I'm not pro-life, If I could trust our system enough to only execute those that we know are 100% guilty I would actually be in favor of expanding the list of crimes that deserve the needle. I think rapists should get the needle, same with those that abuse kids. When it comes down to it I'm a blood-thirsty bastard but I know our system is fucked up and not even close to 100% accurate.

re: #195 RogueOne

We're on the same boat I think. I'm not pro-life, If I could trust our system enough to only execute those that we know are 100% guilty I would actually be in favor of expanding the list of crimes that deserve the needle. I think rapists should get the needle, same with those that abuse kids. When it comes down to it I'm a blood-thirsty bastard but I know our system is fucked up and not even close to 100% accurate.

We would arrive at the same place by different paths. Ultimately I've little taste left for philosophy.

I was on the road yesterday so I missed this little bit of good news:

The Orange County District Attorney's Kelly Thomas Hearing [Breaking: Two Officers Charged with Second and Third Degree Murder]
[Link: reason.com...]

The prosecutor goes into detail what they believe happened and ends with:

Thomas' numerous please of "I'm sorry," "I can't breathe," "Help," "Dad," were all to no avail. Kelly Thomas not responding when the blows to his face occurred? No help. The growing pool of blood? No help. Ramos is charged with murder for creating this dangerous situation that placed KElly Thomas' life in jeopardy and for placing the responding officers in that situation.

Ramos had to know he was creating a situation where Kelly Thomas would fear for his life. Ramos knew that the other officers would come to his aid and assist in applying force to Kelly Thomas. Ramos knew when he did that that Kelly Thomas was going to be hurt. Badly hurt.

The cause of death was mechanical suppression of the thorax. Kelly Thomas could not inhale. Over time his brain was deprived of oxygen. He went into a coma and died. That is the primary cause of death.

It falls so fall short of professional police conduct.

2:22 p.m. Reporter asks if more charges will be filed. Rackauckas says he doesn't think so. Ramos and Cicinelli will be arrained at 2 p.m. PST today. No trial team has been selected. Rackauckas will be lead prosecutor.

Morning honcos.
If you asked me to come in Tuesday for an interview with two different people, press one.
If you asked me to come back yesterday to interview with three more people, press two.
If you mentioned that you had a few more interviews to do after yesterday's meeting "and we'll give you a call soon" please press FUCK OFF.

The OC Weekly write-up:

Murder Charge, Counts Against 2 Cops in Kelly Thomas Beating Case
[Link: blogs.ocweekly.com...]

At his arraignment this afternoon, which the Weekly's Marisa Gerber attended, a handcuffed Fullerton Police Officer Manuel Ramos pleaded not guilty to felony second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter charges in the beating death of Kelly Thomas.

Held in lieu of $1 million bail, Ramos then had his arraignment continued to Monday in Judge Erick Larsh's Orange County Superior Court courtroom in Santa Ana.

Police Corporal Jay Cicinelli also pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter and use of excessive force in the unarmed homeless and mentally ill man's death. Cicinelli was not in cuffs as he'd already posted a $25,000 bond. He has a pre-trial hearing scheduled for Nov. 4.

Jesse Jackson is a douche.
[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Pole dancer sparks outrage in Muslim community after taking erotic art to Saudi
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Image: article-2040064-0E05194200000578-601_468x597.jpg

Worst bachelor party ever.

“You built a factory out there? Good for you. But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police-forces and fire-forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory — and hire someone to protect against this — because of the work the rest of us did.

[Link: 2012.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

I wonder if she includes the 50% of people who pay little or no taxes.

Need proof that Hollywood has run out of good ideas?
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Ahava forced to close London store after threats and intimidation.

I am going to buy a bunch of Ahava stuff.

re: #202 Cannadian Club Akbar

“You built a factory out there? Good for you. But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police-forces and fire-forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory — and hire someone to protect against this — because of the work the rest of us did.

[Link: 2012.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

I wonder if she includes the 50% of people who pay little or no taxes.

A loaf of bread in my town's below-the-line neighborhoods carries a 9% sales tax. That's paid by people who don't make enough to pay Fed income taxes. State income tax starts at 11,000 per year.

re: #205 Decatur Deb

You guys pay taxes on food stuffs?

re: #205 Decatur Deb

A loaf of bread in my town's below-the-line neighborhoods carries a 9% sales tax. That's paid by people who don't make enough to pay Fed income taxes. State income tax starts at 11,000 per year.

I thought food items are not taxed.

re: #206 RogueOne

re: #207 Alouette

And medicine. I just checked with my spender.

re: #208 Decatur Deb

Does your state have an Income tax? If so, you're getting screwed!//

re: #204 Alouette

Ahava forced to close London store after threats and intimidation.

I am going to buy a bunch of Ahava stuff.

According to the landlord, the noisy protests outside the shop have led to many complaints from nearby store owners, who say their sales have been badly affected by the riots.

“On some Saturdays it was a real nightmare being here,” says a salesman in a nearby store. “We couldn’t walk on the street because of the protests and the area looked like a scene of a terrorist attack.”

Got a permit to protest? No? Arrest them.

re: #208 Decatur Deb

re: #207 Alouette

And medicine. I just checked with my spender.

Holy shit, you're right. Alabama taxes food.

re: #209 RogueOne

Does your state have an Income tax? If so, you're getting screwed!//

Yes, on incomes as low as 11,000 per year last I looked. Someone has to buy the drugs for tonight's execution.

re: #212 Decatur Deb

Yes, on incomes as low as 11,000 per year last I looked. Someone has to buy the drugs for tonight's execution.

Do people actually pay taxes or do they get huge refunds like people with federal taxes?

re: #211 Alouette

Holy shit, you're right. Alabama taxes food.

We have very low property taxes, if you own property. Teachers send home wish lists at the beginning of the semester, for things like toilet paper.

re: #213 Cannadian Club Akbar

Do people actually pay taxes or do they get huge refunds like people with federal taxes?

Don't know offhand, but I very much doubt it. We're practical that way.

re: #202 re: #202 Cannadian Club Akbar

I wonder if she includes the 50% of people who pay little or no taxes.

You mean those "social parasites" who are still under 18 or over 65 or otherwise unable to work and help others earn a profit which can be taxed?

You mean those shiftless folks who pay only sales taxes on the goods they purchase from the money they make at their minimum-wage jobs?

The point is that even the most individual success story is a couunal effort (if I dare use a term that sounds like "communism") here.

It is not about "redistribution of wealth", it is just a matter of paying for services rendered: those who benefit the most should pay a greater share, especially those who benefit from a stable and functioning legal and physical infrastructure, those who benefit from having the US military there to protect access to their resources, as well as an education system.

Morning Lizardim.

re: #216 ralphieboy

yes. Thanks for palying.

re: #215 Decatur Deb

Don't know offhand, but I very much doubt it. We're practical that way.

My sister was an illegal alien in Canada for years before she got resident status. She got about 8K a year in "Baby Bonus" because her children were dual citizens and her hubby was Canadian.

The trick, you see, is to get the Yankee government to send a lot of Federal relief dollars to our shiftless classes, you know the ones who collect my garbage, then we tax them when they try to eat. We've had a lot of time to work this out.

re: #191 RogueOne

"Kill him a lot."
Amilyn, Buffy the Vampire Slayer

re: #221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Kill him a lot."
Amilyn, Buffy the Vampire Slayer

I love that show. My wife and I are working are way through it again on Netflix.

re: #221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did ya see Sofia last night on Modern Family, effin hilarious last night.

re: #17 windsagio

For a number of reasons polls have a fairly strong conservative bias, and are kind of nonpredictive at this point anyways.

P'll put it up now, Its gonna be Romney/Obama, O wins.

If it's Romney V. Obama, Obama loses big. If it's Obama V. Perry then it's a different story.

re: #222 RogueOne

Yeah, but I was talking about the movie. Never watched the show; loved the movie. Don't know why, but I think it was Paul Reubens.

re: #223 Shropshire_Slasher

Did ya see Sofia last night on Modern Family, effin hilarious last night.

both episodes were great. Much better than "The Middle" opener.

re: #225 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah, but I was talking about the movie. Never watched the show; loved the movie. Don't know why, but I think it was Paul Reubens.

[Video]

I liked both. Admit it, it was Luke Perry that did it for you. You did hear they're doing a remake (without Whedon) didn't you?

re: #219 Cannadian Club Akbar

My sister was an illegal alien in Canada for years before she got resident status. She got about 8K a year in "Baby Bonus" because her children were dual citizens and her hubby was Canadian.

It would be very hard for an American to believe the Italian mandatory maternity leave system. (And hard for me to describe--it's complex, like all Italian money rules.)

re: #226 RogueOne
The red headed guy had to "butch up"
heh

re: #227 RogueOne

Back then, I'd switch, right now? not so much
/

re: #229 Shropshire_Slasher

Red headed guy is really gay, fat boy is straight.

"ACTING!"
-Master Thespian

WASHINGTON, Pa. -- Police have charged a man in western Pennsylvania with driving drunk twice in the same night – the second time about 15 minutes after they released him into the custody of a friend.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

This has to be some kind of record.

re: #231 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Red headed guy is really gay, fat boy is straight.

"ACTING!"
-Master Thespian

The Chubby one was in Bad Teacher. He didn't have a whole lot of lines but he was funny.

re: #232 Cannadian Club Akbar

WASHINGTON, Pa. -- Police have charged a man in western Pennsylvania with driving drunk twice in the same night – the second time about 15 minutes after they released him into the custody of a friend.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

This has to be some kind of record.

That's the second story like that I've heard this month. In IN they don't release you until they decide you're sober. I think that might be a better policy.

re: #227 RogueOne

Well, I didn't know who Whedon was, so, nope!

re: #235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, I didn't know who Whedon was, so, nope!

I don't think I like you anymore....

re: #234 RogueOne

That's the second story like that I've heard this month. In IN they don't release you until they decide you're sober. I think that might be a better policy.

In Florida it's a mandatory 8 hours in jail even with bail.

re: #232 Cannadian Club Akbar

WASHINGTON, Pa. -- Police have charged a man in western Pennsylvania with driving drunk twice in the same night – the second time about 15 minutes after they released him into the custody of a friend.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

This has to be some kind of record.

With friends like that...

re: #232 Cannadian Club Akbar
Guy was taken by the cops to the Emergency Room who was released because he was too drunk to go to jail. Little while later? He go boom.

Salem police say a drunk driver who caused a crash that cut power to more than 2,000 customers was too drunk to go to jail early Sunday morning.

[Link: www.kptv.com...]

re: #238 Varek Raith

With friends like that...

A good friend will bail you out of jail. A best friend is the guy sitting in the cell next to you saying, "Dude, that was AWESOME!"

re: #236 RogueOne

What? He's some kind of writer type?

re: #239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I saw that. Here, unless you hit .30 on the breathalyzer, jail. Dude was .24 or so.

re: #223 Shropshire_Slasher

Did ya see Sofia last night on Modern Family, effin hilarious last night.

There's a Sofia collection at KMart now. Guess I'm going to KMart. Just sitting there, staring at her poster.

Dog is demanding two walks each day, now. I think my wife put him up to it. BBL.

re: #243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I might have to get the wife some of the Sofia Stank!

re: #226 RogueOne

The girl (Sue) on The Middle as a duplicate of my wife from her teenage years. Looks; clothes she wears: personality... Uber Dork.

I enjoy the show for that reason. My wife even sees it. Says, "Oh, gosh that's me."

Gimme my fucking hot sauce!!!
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]

re: #241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What? He's some kind of writer type?

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

If you haven't seen Dr. Horrible's Sing-A-Long Blog, find it. It used to be on Netflix but I'm not sure it still is.

re: #247 Cannadian Club Akbar

Gimme my fucking hot sauce!!!
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]

CRAWFISH!
'Sovereign Citizen' Opens Fire On Store Because It Ran Out Of Crawfish

A 'sovereign citizen' in Pensacola, Florida allegedly opened fire at a seafood market after learning that they had run out of crawfish.

42 year-old Larry Wayne Kelly allegedly fired upon the L&T Seafood Market with an AK-47 from the window of his pickup truck, after he was told they had sold out of crawfish on Sunday.

Good grief, I didn't realize there is another "debate", today!

I wonder when they'll run out of questions?

re: #247 Cannadian Club Akbar

Read that yesterday. See? I don't know what to do with a guy like that. He's a bad actor; always will be. Nobody gonna fix him.

We need an Island of Misfit Toys or sumthin' like it...

Time to hit the shop and the gym. Today is my Friday so enjoy the weekend people!