Video: Cruise Around the Earth in the International Space Station

Time lapse, 220 miles up

ScienceSeptember 2011 • Views: 24,052

A time-lapse taken from the front of the International Space Station as it orbits our planet at night. This movie begins over the Pacific Ocean and continues over North and South America before entering daylight near Antarctica. Visible cities, countries and landmarks include (in order) Vancouver Island, Victoria, Vancouver, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles. Phoenix. Multiple cities in Texas, New Mexico and Mexico. Mexico City, the Gulf of Mexico, the Yucatan Peninsula, El Salvador, Lightning in the Pacific Ocean, Guatemala, Panama, Columbia, Ecuador, Peru, Chile, Lake Titicaca, and the Amazon. Also visible is the earths ionosphere (thin yellow line), a satellite (55sec) and the stars of our galaxy.

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204 comments

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 2:40:01pm

Watching that, I can’t help but think “We humans are fucking awesome”!!!

Political Atheist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 2:43:40pm

re: #1 Slumbering Behemoth

I love the lightning storm in the clouds below… I wonder if any of the still frames caught a sprite?

S'latch Thu, Sep 22, 2011 2:43:50pm

re: #1 Slumbering Behemoth

I was thinking that satellite was awesome. As for “humans,” I am not that impressed right now.

Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 22, 2011 2:45:23pm

re: #2 Rightwingconspirator

I love the lightning storm in the clouds below… I wonder if any of the still frames caught a sprite?

Ya beat me to it! As a weather geek, watching thunderstorms from above just rules.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 2:50:10pm

“I can see my house from here!”

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 2:51:58pm

Speaking of outer space…

Geller accuses founders of SPLC of being communists, names wrong people as founders

My favorite line:

Geller tattled more about her supposed confidential source: “My informant worked for a Communist Party bookstore between 1978 and 1983. My informant learned there directly and with certainty that Anne Braden was a Communist Party member and that she also had worked with the Southern Poverty Law Center. Perhaps your superiors have lied to you.”

Or, perhaps Geller is just chronically impaired when it comes to plain reality – especially those parts of it that deviate from the reality she creates in her head.

wrenchwench Thu, Sep 22, 2011 2:55:28pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speaking of outer space…

Geller accuses founders of SPLC of being communists, names wrong people as founders

My favorite line:

That ties in nicely with this comment I just made on Thanos’s Page of that.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 2:55:34pm

A new post very fitting to this video:

BP oil is not degrading and still fouling the coast.

darthstar Thu, Sep 22, 2011 2:58:26pm

re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

“I can see my house from here!”

That was you with the 64 Rambler up on blocks out front?

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:00:45pm

I want….how much?

goddamnedfrank Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:05:09pm

Life < - > Art

I’m Republican Candidate for President, brought to you by Carl’s Jr.

Mr. Romney has tried the new $4.39 Carl’s Jr. jalapeño chicken sandwich (“delicious”), celebrated the Reagan Library debate with fast-food burgers and fries (again, Carl’s Jr.), and dug into a Subway flatbread sandwich while sitting in an airport terminal (“better than the usual campaign diet of morning donuts”).

“Would you like to try our EXTRA BIG ASS TACO? Now with more MOLECULES!”

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:09:39pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

Life < - > Art

I’m Republican Candidate for President, brought to you by Carl’s Jr.

“Would you like to try our EXTRA BIG ASS TACO? Now with more MOLECULES!”

Youtube Video

wrenchwench Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:10:00pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

Life < - > Art

I’m Republican Candidate for President, brought to you by Carl’s Jr.

“Would you like to try our EXTRA BIG ASS TACO? Now with more MOLECULES!”

Carl’s Jr. was founded by Carl Karcher.

Political activities

Karcher was a lifelong supporter of Conservative causes and contributed to anti-gay initiatives such as the Briggs Initiative.[5]

Karcher was an early supporter of John Schmitz, a Republican and member of the John Birch Society, who represented Orange County in the California State Senate and later Congress.

In 1978, he provided $1 million USD to California’s Proposition 6, also known as the Briggs Initiative. He was the initiative’s biggest financial supporter. The proposition was a ballot measure requiring the termination of all gays and lesbians from employment in public schools. The initiative was defeated by over one million votes.

I worked at the one that opened first, in Brea, but it was known as #2 because the one that opened second was the home store.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:11:26pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speaking of outer space…

Geller accuses founders of SPLC of being communists, names wrong people as founders

My favorite line:

Once again, Atlas Sucks…

Dancing along the light of day Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:12:34pm

I dislike seeing all of the ambient light.
I wish we could just turn the lights off at night.
It’s such a waste.

Dancing along the light of day Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:13:34pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

A cheeseburger would hit the spot right now!

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:14:18pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

Carl’s Jr. was founded by Carl Karcher.

I worked at the one that opened first, in Brea, but it was known as #2 because the one that opened second was the home store.

12 children!…good grief, a human billy goat…
burgers are decent….once a year

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:15:43pm

re: #15 Floral Giraffe

I dislike seeing all of the ambient light.
I wish we could just turn the lights off at night.
It’s such a waste.

submit to the Darkness!

goddamnedfrank Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:17:53pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

Had to look up the Briggs initiative, the law Sean Penn was speaking out against in Orange county in Milk.

I can only think in terms of movie references.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:18:00pm

re: #18 albusteve

submit to the Darkness!

Youtube Video

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:18:13pm

Fox…
‘Decisive Third Debate!’
yawn

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:19:14pm

re: #21 albusteve

Fox…
‘Decisive Third Debate!’
yawn

Unless they invoke Thunderdome rules…

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:20:26pm

re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Unless they invoke Thunderdome rules…

I think they should debate with brass knuckles and hobnailed boots

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:21:05pm

FBI Arrests U.S. Suspect in LulzSec Sony Hack; Anonymous Targeted, Too

The suspect, Cody Andrew Kretsinger, is believed to be a member of the LulzSec group, an offshoot of the online griefer collective known as Anonymous. LulzSec called it quits in June after 50 days of high-profile breaches made public through a fascinating and oddly entertaining Twitter account.

A second unidentified man was arrested in San Francisco the same day in connection with Anonymous cyberattacks on web sites belonging to Santa Cruz County government offices, according to Fox News. Search warrants were also being executed against other Anonymous suspects in New Jersey, Minnesota and Montana, an FBI source told the news agency.

The actions continue an ongoing law-enforcement crackdown against alleged members of the two groups. In July, federal agents arrested 14 suspected Anonymous members on charges of participating in denial-of-service attacks against online payment service provider PayPal.

Five additional suspects were arrested overseas — one in the United Kingdom and four in the Netherlands — for related crimes. The UK arrest was reportedly of “Tflow”, a former member of LulzSec, identified by police as a 16-year-old male.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:23:18pm

re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Unless they invoke Thunderdome rules…

I’d pay to see that.. Hell if they added a cameo from Mel Gibson into the mix, I would even watch him again just for that.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:23:27pm

re: #23 albusteve

I think they should debate with brass knuckles and hobnailed boots

“This debate will have the candidates clad in loin clothes with a live badger strapped to each arm and dropped into a pit… DEBATE!”

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:24:58pm

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

“This debate will have the candidates clad in loin clothes with a live badger strapped to each arm and dropped into a pit… DEBATE!”

RP in a loin cloth….what channel?

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:25:35pm

re: #27 albusteve

RP in a loin cloth…what channel?

Pay-per-view

wrenchwench Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:26:39pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Had to look up the Briggs initiative, the law Sean Penn was speaking out against in Orange county in Milk.

I can only think in terms of movie references.

That was the first time I found out I was helping a fascist get rich(er). More recently, I found out I’ve been paying rent to a fascist for the last 12 years when I read her obituary. She was mayor of a town that bans unmarried cohabitants, and she tried to keep someone from putting up a lawn sign she disagreed with, but lost when it got to the Supreme Court.

Four More Tears Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:26:51pm

I really have little left to say about this piece of shit state. Sorry Texans. I know y’all ain’t bloodthirsty savages.

Texas Abolishes Last Meal Requests For Death Row Inmates

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:28:08pm

re: #30 JasonA

I really have little left to say about this piece of shit state. Sorry Texans. I know y’all ain’t bloodthirsty savages.

Texas Abolishes Last Meal Requests For Death Row Inmates

Whats next? Billing the family for the execution costs?

Four More Tears Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:28:49pm

re: #31 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whats next? Billing the family for the execution costs?

STOP GIVING THEM IDEAS!

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:29:41pm

re: #30 JasonA

I really have little left to say about this piece of shit state. Sorry Texans. I know y’all ain’t bloodthirsty savages.

Texas Abolishes Last Meal Requests For Death Row Inmates

read that earlier and had to laugh…who the fuck cares?…they should offer them pot or morphine or a nice bourbon on ice

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:31:56pm

re: #31 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whats next? Billing the family for the execution costs?

there’s a joke in there somewhere

wrenchwench Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:38:00pm

News from another satellite, soon to be an ex-satellite.

Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:38:09pm

re: #18 albusteve

submit to the Darkness!

This is darkness, in this neighborhood.

What you wish you could see

Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:38:39pm

re: #15 Floral Giraffe

I dislike seeing all of the ambient light.
I wish we could just turn the lights off at night.
It’s such a waste.

I’m really hoping environmentalism starts to get smarter. City lights are certainly a huge waste. Here in Portland we have a lot of hippies that want to help the environment but have no clue what they’re doing. They feed the crows, pigeons and seagulls. Open compost piles attract 1,000’s of rats and mice. They think pests and vermin are part of the natural world. It’s very frustrating.

Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:41:59pm

re: #15 Floral Giraffe

I dislike seeing all of the ambient light.
I wish we could just turn the lights off at night.
It’s such a waste.

I’m glad you live in a nice neighborhood.

Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:42:49pm

I found out yesterday that the hippies recently cut the trash service to once a month and have been trying to compost baby diapers in an open pile. It’s a plague of rats and mice only made even more disgusting from feeding on human baby shit.

Four More Tears Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:42:55pm

I’d settle for getting those nice LED streetlights all over.

Vicious Babushka Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:44:31pm

re: #30 JasonA

I really have little left to say about this piece of shit state. Sorry Texans. I know y’all ain’t bloodthirsty savages.

Texas Abolishes Last Meal Requests For Death Row Inmates

Brewer requested an elaborate meal that included a triple-meat bacon cheeseburger, a meat-lover’s pizza, a big bowl of okra with ketchup, a pound of barbecue, a half a loaf of bread, peanut butter fudge, a pint of ice cream and two chicken-fried steaks.

When the meal arrived around 4PM, Brewer said he wasn’t hungry.

I think they should have made him eat it, and then instead of a lethal injection, just wait around for him to die of morbid obesity and heart failure.

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:44:35pm

turn off the lights and feed the rats…okay

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:45:31pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speaking of outer space…

Geller accuses founders of SPLC of being communists, names wrong people as founders

My favorite line:

I can’t believe that hideous woman is trying to smear the Southern Poverty Law Center.

No wait, I can believe that.

What I still CAN’T believe is that when SPLC put her org on their list, a middle-aged Jewish woman involved in many social causes told me “Well, they should just put THEMSELVES on that hate list.”

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:46:31pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

Life < - > Art

I’m Republican Candidate for President, brought to you by Carl’s Jr.

“Would you like to try our EXTRA BIG ASS TACO? Now with more MOLECULES!”

Well, someone’s gotta eat fast food. If the Obamas do it, various haters will explode.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:48:22pm

re: #3 Lawrence Schmerel

I was thinking that satellite was awesome. As for “humans,” I am not that impressed right now.

Oh boo hoo, ya wet blanket. That satellite didn’t manufacture and assemble itself ya know.
:P

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:48:35pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

I found out yesterday that the hippies recently cut the trash service to once a month and have been trying to compost baby diapers in an open pile. It’s a plague of rats and mice only made even more disgusting from feeding on human baby shit.

Which hippies are these?

Cheechako Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:49:26pm

re: #40 JasonA

I’d settle for getting those nice LED streetlights all over.

Many communities have installed LED stop lights in an effort to reduce electricity costs. Just one small problem. In areas where it snows, the snow is wind blown against the lens and blocks the light. The LED’s don’t produce enough heat to melt the snow.

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:49:55pm

re: #46 SanFranciscoZionist

Which hippies are these?

I doubt KT knows them by name…that’s not realistic

Vicious Babushka Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:50:12pm

re: #37 Killgore Trout

I’m really hoping environmentalism starts to get smarter. City lights are certainly a huge waste. Here in Portland we have a lot of hippies that want to help the environment but have no clue what they’re doing. They feed the crows, pigeons and seagulls. Open compost piles attract 1,000’s of rats and mice. They think pests and vermin are part of the natural world. It’s very frustrating.

Every time you see them, tell them how Bubonic Plague spreads.

Four More Tears Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:50:36pm

re: #47 Cheechako

Many communities have installed LED stop lights in an effort to reduce electricity costs. Just one small problem. In areas where it snows, the snow is wind blown against the lens and blocks the light. The LED’s don’t produce enough heat to melt the snow.

Streetlights that are pointing down wouldn’t have that problem, would they?

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:51:58pm

re: #50 JasonA

Streetlights that are pointing down wouldn’t have that problem, would they?

wind driven snow does not care what way lights are pointing…you live on the equator?

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:52:04pm

re: #47 Cheechako

The LED’s don’t produce enough heat to melt the snow.

A factor that never entered my mind, living out here in sunny California. Good to know.

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:52:30pm

re: #48 albusteve

I doubt KT knows them by name…that’s not realistic

I mean, are they neighbors?

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:52:45pm

re: #49 Alouette

Every time you see them, tell them how Bubonic Plague spreads.

Bubonic plague is fully natural, so it must be good.

wrenchwench Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:52:56pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

trying to compost baby diapers in an open pile

I would think the County Health Department would be interested in that.

Cheechako Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:53:01pm

re: #50 JasonA

A lot of street lights have shields directing the visibility of the signal to the lane for which the signal controls. It’s these shields which trap and hold the snow.

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:54:00pm

re: #48 albusteve

I doubt KT knows them by name…that’s not realistic

“Now ladies, I’m only calling you bitches because I don’t know your names individually.”

Katt Williams is unbelievably funny.

Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:54:16pm

re: #53 SanFranciscoZionist

I mean, are they neighbors?

Yeah, they live behind me. I’m pretty sure their rats have been eating my frogs.

Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:54:52pm

re: #41 Alouette

I think they should have made him eat it, and then instead of a lethal injection, just wait around for him to die of morbid obesity and heart failure.

Do you have the same opinion for the other guy who would never have been convicted if tried today?

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:55:24pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Yeah, they live behind me. I’m pretty sure their rats have been eating my frogs.

Call County Health. There’s a limit.

Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:56:21pm

re: #56 Cheechako

A lot of street lights have shields directing the visibility of the signal to the lane for which the signal controls. It’s these shields which trap and hold the snow.

Is that a joke?

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:56:54pm

re: #54 Sergey Romanov

Bubonic plague is fully natural, so it must be good.

Radiation is completely natural as well, and the source of many super-hero’s origins.

I’ve been exposing myself to a lot of Radon lately, but sadly no super-powers have yet manifested.

Wait, are “coughing up blood” and “losing all your body hair” considered super-powers?

Cheechako Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:57:14pm

re: #61 Naso Tang

Is that a joke?

No.

Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:57:15pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

I would think the County Health Department would be interested in that.

Nah, I don’t think it will come to that. they’re kinda upset that I’m killing the rats. I talked to them about it and they bought new compost bins and moved them to another part of their yard. Hopefully it won’t get this out of control again but they’re pretty stupid. It’s best for me to take matters into my own hands and deal with the rat population myself instead of expecting them to do it.

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:58:36pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

Nah, I don’t think it will come to that. they’re kinda upset that I’m killing the rats. I talked to them about it and they bought new compost bins and moved them to another part of their yard. Hopefully it won’t get this out of control again but they’re pretty stupid. It’s best for me to take matters into my own hands and deal with the rat population myself instead of expecting them to do it.

They’re upset that you’re killing the rats?

They have children young enough to be in diapers, and yet they’re encouraging rats to run around and enjoy themselves?

Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:58:54pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

I found out yesterday that the hippies recently cut the trash service to once a month and have been trying to compost baby diapers in an open pile. It’s a plague of rats and mice only made even more disgusting from feeding on human baby shit.

Diapers with plastic? Could be a fortune in there if you can get the DNA from those microbes or rats.

Political Atheist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:59:25pm

re: #65 SanFranciscoZionist

They’re upset that you’re killing the rats?

They have children young enough to be in diapers, and yet they’re encouraging rats to run around and enjoy themselves?

They are trying to stay anonymouse.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:59:36pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Yeah, they live behind me. I’m pretty sure their rats have been eating my frogs.

re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist

Call County Health. There’s a limit.

What she said. The slaughter of your frogs must not be tolerated.

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 3:59:36pm

re: #65 SanFranciscoZionist

They’re upset that you’re killing the rats?

They have children young enough to be in diapers, and yet they’re encouraging rats to run around and enjoy themselves?

liberals are like that….child = rat

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:00:37pm

re: #61 Naso Tang

Is that a joke?

have you ever driven a car?…notice the stop lights?

wrenchwench Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:01:39pm

re: #65 SanFranciscoZionist

They’re upset that you’re killing the rats?

They have children young enough to be in diapers, and yet they’re encouraging rats to run around and enjoy themselves?

My neighbor across the street told me about her home when she was a child (which was only a few years ago). Her mother finally decided, after several weeks, that the pet rattlesnake under the couch might be a hazard to the kids.

It’s hard to be surprised these days.

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:02:36pm

re: #69 albusteve

liberals are like that…child = rat

Uh, no.

Even normal hippies aren’t like that.

KT has the SPECIAL hippies.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:03:03pm

re: #69 albusteve

liberals are like that…child = rat

I dunno. I’m not exactly a liberal…

Charles Johnson Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:03:16pm

Well, they’re trying beat the public into submission with yet another debate tonight, at 5:30 pm Pacific time. Got a live video feed from Fox.

Four More Tears Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:04:15pm

re: #74 Charles

Well, they’re trying beat the public into submission with yet another debate tonight, at 5:30 pm Pacific time. Got a live video feed from Fox.

I fully support any effort that results in more voters hearing what these people have to say.

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:05:34pm

re: #73 Slumbering Behemoth

I dunno. I’m not exactly a liberal…

War Of The Rats was a terrific book…jus sayin

Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:06:24pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

Nah, I don’t think it will come to that. they’re kinda upset that I’m killing the rats. I talked to them about it and they bought new compost bins and moved them to another part of their yard. Hopefully it won’t get this out of control again but they’re pretty stupid. It’s best for me to take matters into my own hands and deal with the rat population myself instead of expecting them to do it.

I tried killing rats for a while with poison and traps. It’s pointless beyond taking steps to make sure sure one doesn’t feed them beyond what nature does. I quite when I killed a bird in a trap. Still bothers me.

Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:08:12pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

It’s hard to be surprised these days.

Not really. As a landlord, I am surprised regularly. I think I’m a natural born sucker for some things.

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:08:41pm

re: #77 Naso Tang

I tried killing rats for a while with poison and traps. It’s pointless beyond taking steps to make sure sure one doesn’t feed them beyond what nature does. I quite when I killed a bird in a trap. Still bothers me.

it’s never pointless to kill a rat…god fucked up

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:10:04pm

re: #78 Naso Tang

Not really. As a landlord, I am surprised regularly. I think I’m a natural born sucker for some things.

Like having to unclog a toilet because a tenant flushed a bowl full of left over rice down the damn thing. >:[

Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:10:40pm

re: #74 Charles

Well, they’re trying beat the public into submission with yet another debate tonight, at 5:30 pm Pacific time. Got a live video feed from Fox.

This is what is called TGOP economic stimulus.

sattv4u2 Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:10:53pm

re: #76 albusteve

War Of The Rats was a terrific book…jus sayin

In the end, the rats always win!

Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:11:21pm

re: #80 Slumbering Behemoth

Like having to unclog a toilet because a tenant flushed a bowl full of left over rice down the damn thing. >:[

No, worse.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:13:13pm

re: #83 Naso Tang

The ones that want you to call a plumber at 7:00 PM Sunday evening because their shower isn’t draining fast enough for their liking?

Political Atheist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:13:23pm

re: #74 Charles

Well, they’re trying beat the public into submission with yet another debate tonight, at 5:30 pm Pacific time. Got a live video feed from Fox.

Given the content-I think we need a drinking game. Anyone want to pick the word or should just put some GOP memes into a hat and draw one at random? Fair warning to those who get up early, it may be an aspirin breakfast.

Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:13:50pm

re: #70 albusteve

have you ever driven a car?…notice the stop lights?

WTF does that have to do with snow on the road? I’m missing something.

sattv4u2 Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:14:31pm

re: #80 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #83 Naso Tang

I once got a call at three in the morning (middle of winter) that there was no heat

Thought there may be something wrong with the furnace so I hustled over

Invited in and there, on the kitchen table was a pile of unpaid gas bills (the tenants were to pay all the utilities except water)

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:14:38pm

re: #86 Naso Tang

WTF does that have to do with snow on the road? I’m missing something.

all the snow is not on the road…that’s what you’re missing

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:15:17pm

re: #85 Rightwingconspirator

1. Immigration
2. Obamacare
3. Taxes

Have a registered nurse handy for the inevitable liver/kidney failure.

Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:15:22pm

re: #77 Naso Tang

I tried killing rats for a while with poison and traps. It’s pointless beyond taking steps to make sure sure one doesn’t feed them beyond what nature does. I quite when I killed a bird in a trap. Still bothers me.

Hmmm, I have poison out now as an emergency measure to kill as many as possible. So far they’ve eaten about 1 1/2 pounds of poison over 2-3 weeks and they’re still going at it. I hate releasing that much poison into the environment. I was planing on getting a live trap and then offing the captured critters myself with a pellet gun. I’m not looking forward to it.

Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:16:52pm

re: #89 Slumbering Behemoth

1. Immigration
2. Obamacare
3. Taxes

Have a registered nurse handy for the inevitable liver/kidney failure.

Constitution
Liberty
socialism

albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:17:03pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Hmmm, I have poison out now as an emergency measure to kill as many as possible. So far they’ve eaten about 1 1/2 pounds of poison over 2-3 weeks and they’re still going at it. I hate releasing that much poison into the environment. I was planing on getting a live trap and then offing the captured critters myself with a pellet gun. I’m not looking forward to it.

just use a club…rats are not fancy, they don’t care how they die

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:17:22pm

re: #87 sattv4u2

“Sorry, I won’t be paying the rent on time this month, I had to buy presents for Christmas. What, why are you looking at my like that?”

Political Atheist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:18:40pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

KT, any chance you can trap a few and take them to your local health dept. or animal control and make a complaint? This sounds like it’s getting to where the city should step up and enforce their codes. No sense you being stuck with the stink and the job of persuading them.

EDIT-And the distasteful task of dispatching the critters?

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:18:49pm

re: #92 albusteve

rats are not fancy, they don’t care how they die

Gravel help me, but that made me laugh.

Vicious Babushka Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:18:59pm

re: #59 Naso Tang

Do you have the same opinion for the other guy who would never have been convicted if tried today?

Did the other guy order a huge complicated meal and then refuse to eat it, just to fuck with the system?

Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:19:09pm

re: #92 albusteve

just use a club…rats are not fancy, they don’t care how they die

I really don’t want to handle them. i thought about drowning them but I think the pellet gun would be quicker, easier and less messy.

sattv4u2 Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:19:11pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Hmmm, I have poison out now as an emergency measure to kill as many as possible. So far they’ve eaten about 1 1/2 pounds of poison over 2-3 weeks and they’re still going at it. I hate releasing that much poison into the environment. I was planing on getting a live trap and then offing the captured critters myself with a pellet gun. I’m not looking forward to it.

Have you ever thought that they may LIKE it??

knock knock

“Mister Kilgore,,, we seem to have gone through all the delicious stuff you put out for us, is there any more??”

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:20:08pm

re: #96 Alouette

Did the other guy order a huge complicated meal and then refuse to eat it, just to fuck with the system?

If we’re gonna kill someone, I say, get the man all the okra he wants beforehand.

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:20:09pm

re: #93 Slumbering Behemoth

“Sorry, I won’t be paying the rent on time this month, I had to buy presents for Christmas. What, why are you looking at my like that?”

income property is a dead end…at least when you got killed with capital gains…I was a landlord for years, the tenants were fine but the city officials were nazis…eventually I dumped four nice properties because of them…seven units, gone

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allegro Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:20:41pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Hmmm, I have poison out now as an emergency measure to kill as many as possible. So far they’ve eaten about 1 1/2 pounds of poison over 2-3 weeks and they’re still going at it. I hate releasing that much poison into the environment. I was planing on getting a live trap and then offing the captured critters myself with a pellet gun. I’m not looking forward to it.

Are you using a warfarin based bait?

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sattv4u2 Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:22:06pm

re: #93 Slumbering Behemoth

“Sorry, I won’t be paying the rent on time this month, I had to buy presents for Christmas. What, why are you looking at my like that?”

If it were something like that, I would reduce or wave the rent for a month or two
BUT
Two adults in the house, both had newer cars than I did. Their son had every gaming system one can think of ,,, there were at least 3 plasma TVs of 50” or larger,,,, and every weekend in the summer they threw a huge BBQ/ Party

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Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:22:18pm

re: #94 Rightwingconspirator

KT, any chance you can trap a few and take them to your local health dept. or animal control and make a complaint? This sounds like it’s getting to where the city should step up and enforce their codes. No sense you being stuck with the stink and the job of persuading them.

It’s a city wide problem. Thousands of hippies who compost in the open because they think it’s environmentally friendly. The hippies bought new compost bins from the city. They’re made from flimsy plastic with huge openings for rats to crawl in. The city is part of the problem, re educating all those hippies is a lost cause.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:22:41pm

re: #100 albusteve

It can be nearly impossible to make a profit, especially if you’re generous to a fault.

A relative of mine has rental property, and hasn’t been in the black once in the last twenty years.

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Political Atheist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:23:16pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

It’s a city wide problem. Thousands of hippies who compost in the open because they think it’s environmentally friendly. The hippies bought new compost bins from the city. They’re made from flimsy plastic with huge openings for rats to crawl in. The city is part of the problem, re educating all those hippies is a lost cause.

Oh…Oh… *facepalm*

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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:23:24pm

re: #74 Charles

Well, they’re trying beat the public into submission with yet another debate tonight, at 5:30 pm Pacific time. Got a live video feed from Fox.

I would rather hammer needles into my privates than watch them frankly.

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wrenchwench Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:23:56pm

You know, I could bitch about landlords too….

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Political Atheist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:24:22pm

Whoops real work calls. BBL

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sattv4u2 Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:24:30pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

It’s a city wide problem. Thousands of hippies who compost in the open because they think it’s environmentally friendly. The hippies bought new compost bins from the city. They’re made from flimsy plastic with huge openings for rats to crawl in. The city is part of the problem, re educating all those hippies is a lost cause.

And to add to the problem, the hippies are most likely vegetarians and won’t even EAT the rats!!
/

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sattv4u2 Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:26:21pm

re: #106 LudwigVanQuixote

I would rather hammer needles into my privates than watch them frankly.

Why must we always be subjected to hear of your sexual preferences??
/

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:26:36pm

re: #104 Slumbering Behemoth

It can be nearly impossible to make a profit, especially if you’re generous to a fault.

A relative of mine has rental property, and hasn’t been in the black once in the last twenty years.

I made money, but not nearly enough for what I put into it…I did it for a lark and just to provide good housing for my tenants…I never once had a tenant problem in 15 years….when rent was late I just blew it off…I had some real characters for tenants and I liked them all

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:27:32pm

re: #102 sattv4u2

Way back in the day I shared a one bedroom with a friend of mine. Then he knocked a gal up, got married and moved her in.

They had the bedroom, I slept on the couch, and they still expected me to pay half the rent.

Then they went and blew their paychecks on a bunch of stupid toys for a baby that wasn’t born yet, and a little weed as well.

Of course they didn’t have any money left for their share of the rent, so we got evicted. And don’t you know those mother fuckers didn’t even share a puff of that weed with me!

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sattv4u2 Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:27:34pm

re: #107 wrenchwench

You know, I could bitch about landlords too…

Don’t get me wrong.,.. I know some AWFUL ones also

There’s a house in our subdivision thats a rental. I feel bad for the people renting it and have had arguments with the owner

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goddamnedfrank Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:28:08pm

re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist

If we’re gonna kill someone, I say, get the man all the okra he wants beforehand.

They got off cheap. He should have demanded Wagyu steak in a rich white truffle sauce, with Almas caviar and a Dansuke watermelon, then crapped all over it. If you’re going to kill someone who cares how much their final “fuck you” moment costs, the death penalty is already ungodly expensive as it is. Nothing they order can compare the amount of money already wasted.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:28:30pm

re: #107 wrenchwench

You know, I could bitch about landlords too…

Go for it. I’ve had some strange ones.

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sattv4u2 Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:31:23pm

re: #115 Slumbering Behemoth

Go for it. I’ve had some strange ones.

Why must we always be subjected to hear of your sexual preferences??

(didn’t I just say that to someone else also??)

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:31:37pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

If I ever end up on death row, my last meal request will be for a McRib sandwich and a McShamrock shake.

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:32:21pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

They got off cheap. He should have demanded Wagyu steak in a rich white truffle sauce, with Almas caviar and a Dansuke watermelon, then crapped all over it. If you’re going to kill someone who cares how much their final “fuck you” moment costs, the death penalty is already ungodly expensive as it is. Nothing they order can compare the amount of money already wasted.

they need redemption more than food…spend the money on preachers

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:32:53pm

re: #88 albusteve

all the snow is not on the road…that’s what you’re missing

Somebody gets enough snow to cover the street lights so they can’t be seen? What is that 20 feet? Who cares?

(I sense a dead end conversation here)

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wrenchwench Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:33:17pm

re: #115 Slumbering Behemoth

Go for it. I’ve had some strange ones.

Actually, I already did above ^^^

And don’t have time for much more. My current one at home used to bake us brownies, but lately says we’ve “changed”…

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laZardo Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:33:23pm

Now with Soundtrack!

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:35:11pm

re: #111 albusteve

I made money, but not nearly enough for what I put into it…I did it for a lark and just to provide good housing for my tenants…I never once had a tenant problem in 15 years…when rent was late I just blew it off…I had some real characters for tenants and I liked them all

I made money, until three years ago when all the decent people (actually not all of them, but many) seemed to turn into shit.

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:35:26pm

re: #119 Naso Tang

Somebody gets enough snow to cover the street lights so they can’t be seen? What is that 20 feet? Who cares?

(I sense a dead end conversation here)

obviously you have never lived in the north…snow blows up, down, sideways and swirls all around….it’s not the depth from the ground up…duh…go visit Minny in February

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:37:34pm

re: #123 albusteve

Went to Minny in October. When we exited the airport doors they had an unfortunate marketing device right outside the exit. A thermometer. Was 25 degrees.

I would have turned right around and got back on the plane, but the pilot had already hauled ass out!

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:38:13pm

re: #122 Naso Tang

I made money, until three years ago when all the decent people (actually not all of them, but many) seemed to turn into shit.

shitty tenants are a nightmare…a real, authentic nightmare…they can fuck you up bigtime…it’s really not worth it unless you are simply an investor in a complex somewhere

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:38:25pm

re: #107 wrenchwench

You know, I could bitch about landlords too…

Move to Florida. I’d love to rent to you. Of course then we couldn’t really be friends….could we, are we?

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:39:56pm

re: #124 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Went to Minny in October. When we exited the airport doors they had an unfortunate marketing device right outside the exit. A thermometer. Was 25 degrees.

I would have turned right around and got back on the plane, but the pilot had already hauled ass out!

really a cool town…even, and mayby especially, in dead winter…not for warm weather lightwieights

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Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:40:00pm

I just made the down payment on my 250 sq foot greenhouse/solarium expansion. It’s a done deal. I should start building in late October. Hopefully finished by Thanksgiving.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:40:22pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

Order an “Elephant Ear Sandwich”. Those big buns are hard to find.

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goddamnedfrank Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:40:35pm

re: #117 Slumbering Behemoth

If I ever end up on death row, my last meal request will be for a McRib sandwich and a McShamrock shake.

I’m ordering the top 10 most endangered species, black rhino, panda, tiger, etc. Each one stuffed inside the next like turducken.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:40:51pm

re: #127 albusteve

really a cool town…even, and mayby especially, in dead winter…not for warm weather lightwieights

Like me.

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:41:42pm

re: #128 Killgore Trout

I just made the down payment on my 250 sq foot greenhouse/solarium expansion. It’s a done deal. I should start building in late October. Hopefully finished by Thanksgiving.

do it yourself?….you’re going to go nuts with that thing…very cool

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:41:42pm

re: #125 albusteve

shitty tenants are a nightmare…a real, authentic nightmare…they can fuck you up bigtime…it’s really not worth it unless you are simply an investor in a complex somewhere

Well I can put them on the street for $600 in Florida, and have, with some pleasure. The biggest problem I have is personal. I can’t understand how I screw up like that in the first place.

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:42:46pm

re: #132 albusteve

do it yourself?…you’re going to go nuts with that thing…very cool

I have one in my future plans. Any details?

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:42:50pm

re: #131 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Like me.

yeah, I’ve had it with that stuff…a visit is one thing, but I’m a desert guy

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:43:27pm

re: #128 Killgore Trout

I just made the down payment on my 250 sq foot greenhouse/solarium expansion. It’s a done deal. I should start building in late October. Hopefully finished by Thanksgiving.

Ooops. Meant that for you.

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wrenchwench Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:43:33pm

re: #126 Naso Tang

Move to Florida. I’d love to rent to you. Of course then we couldn’t really be friends…could we, are we?

If I had to move to Florida, I would no longer be such a nice person…

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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:44:12pm

Working on a new science post…

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:44:21pm

re: #130 goddamnedfrank

I’m ordering the top 10 most endangered species, black rhino, panda, tiger, etc. Each one stuffed inside the next like turducken.

That might stall them for a little while, but they will eventually get all that stuff.

Now, when was the last time you saw the McRib and the McShamrock on the McDonald’s menu at the same time?

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SteveMcG Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:44:51pm

re: #138 LudwigVanQuixote

Working on a new science post…

How ‘bout a tease?

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Jimmi the Grey Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:46:04pm

re: #135 albusteve

yeah, I’ve had it with that stuff…a visit is one thing, but I’m a desert guy

Lived in Mpls for 8 years (1993-2000). I remember that temp’s in the positive range were shorts weather. I’m happy to be back in western Oregon again.

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:46:20pm

re: #134 Naso Tang

I have one in my future plans. Any details?

not really…if you’re handy and have the tools you can do one yourself with some help…the problems are water and electric and most people won’t deal with that part…I’m a builder, or was…I would love to put one on your house…assembly is easy, it’s the foundation, waterproofing and mechanical that stumps people

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:47:24pm

re: #133 Naso Tang

Well I can put them on the street for $600 in Florida, and have, with some pleasure. The biggest problem I have is personal. I can’t understand how I screw up like that in the first place.

maybe you are unlikeable….probably so, since I like you

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Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:47:59pm

re: #132 albusteve

do it yourself?…you’re going to go nuts with that thing…very cool

It’s on a poured foundation with with about 100 sq feet of raised beds so I’m paying for concrete work. The glass, frame, doors windows, vents will all be manufactured and delivered on pallets. I’m going to do the construction myself. I’m a little bit nervous. Those panels are pretty heavy and fairly unwieldy for a one man job but I’m going to give it a try.

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:48:43pm

re: #137 wrenchwench

If I had to move to Florida, I would no longer be such a nice person…

LOL!
New Mexicans are the nicest people in the entire USA…no shit, I mean that you nut

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SteveMcG Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:49:03pm

re: #144 Killgore Trout

It’s on a poured foundation with with about 100 sq feet of raised beds so I’m paying for concrete work. The glass, frame, doors windows, vents will all be manufactured and delivered on pallets. I’m going to do the construction myself. I’m a little bit nervous. Those panels are pretty heavy and fairly unwieldy for a one man job but I’m going to give it a try.

The only advice I can offer is to watch the wind.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:49:36pm

Three guys are adventuring out in the jungle together when they’re set upon by a tribe of cannibals. They’re taken back to the village where the chieftain explains that the tribe is going to kill them, eat their innards, and use their skin to make canoes. As the men begin to panic and protest, the chieftain says that, as an act of mercy, he will allow the men to decide how they die.

The first man chooses to die by the pistol he always carried with him. The chieftain agrees, and the man promptly draws his gun, fires off five rounds into five different tribesmen, and saves the last for himself.

When the commotion dies down, the chieftain graciously decides to let the incident slide, as neither of the other two men were responsible for the deaths of his brothers. The second man asks for a knife. The chieftain provides a large hunting knife and the man promptly stabs himself in the heart, falling to the ground and dying.

The third man asks calmly for a fork. The chieftain and several tribesmen question the choice of ‘weapon’, but agree to allow it. The man begins stabbing himself all over his body screaming “FUCK YOUR CANOES!”

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:50:12pm

re: #141 Jimmi the Grey

Lived in Mpls for 8 years (1993-2000). I remember that temp’s in the positive range were shorts weather. I’m happy to be back in western Oregon again.

yeah, what a great town tho…a real secret people are unaware of

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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:51:16pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

They got off cheap. He should have demanded Wagyu steak in a rich white truffle sauce, with Almas caviar and a Dansuke watermelon, then crapped all over it. If you’re going to kill someone who cares how much their final “fuck you” moment costs, the death penalty is already ungodly expensive as it is. Nothing they order can compare the amount of money already wasted.

I believe there’s actually a limit on how expensive the last meal can be, and it’s not that much.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:51:54pm

re: #140 SteveMcG

How ‘bout a tease?

Okay…

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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:53:18pm

re: #149 SanFranciscoZionist

I believe there’s actually a limit on how expensive the last meal can be, and it’s not that much.

Different wardens, different rules—and it shouldn’t be a big deal among sane administrators..

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Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:53:23pm

re: #134 Naso Tang

I have one in my future plans. Any details?

Here’s the company I ordered from:
[Link: www.globalsolariums.com…]

It will cover the back of the house (25’ long, 10 ’ wide) with 2’ tall raised beds for plantings. I might post some pics of the construction process just for fun.

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Jimmi the Grey Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:54:26pm

re: #148 albusteve

yeah, what a great town tho…a real secret people are unaware of

Excellent underground music scene (atleast at the time). Great History and Nature to be found out of the Cities too.

Everyone tells ya how cold it gets…no one warned me it was 95F in the summer with 99% humidity. Ugh.

Side note about the snow…doesn’t much snow after early December as it’s too cold for the air to hold much moisture. Serious.

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:54:49pm

re: #144 Killgore Trout

It’s on a poured foundation with with about 100 sq feet of raised beds so I’m paying for concrete work. The glass, frame, doors windows, vents will all be manufactured and delivered on pallets. I’m going to do the construction myself. I’m a little bit nervous. Those panels are pretty heavy and fairly unwieldy for a one man job but I’m going to give it a try.

figure it out…you can probably do it, have confidence…you can slide the roof panels around on 2x4 stringers once you get them up there…don’t be hasty…level and plumb is the rule…not close, exact…like a cello bro

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Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:54:53pm

re: #146 SteveMcG

The only advice I can offer is to watch the wind.

I’m also pretty worried about the overhead work. I don’t trust myself on a ladder with those panels so I’m probably going to have to build some sort of scaffolding.

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:56:13pm

re: #152 Killgore Trout

Here’s the company I ordered from:
[Link: www.globalsolariums.com…]

It will cover the back of the house (25’ long, 10 ’ wide) with 2’ tall raised beds for plantings. I might post some pics of the construction process just for fun.

please do…I’m a natural born supervisor

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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:56:34pm

re: #152 Killgore Trout

Here’s the company I ordered from:
[Link: www.globalsolariums.com…]

It will cover the back of the house (25’ long, 10 ’ wide) with 2’ tall raised beds for plantings. I might post some pics of the construction process just for fun.

That looks like a variant on an extruded aluminum Florida ‘Screen Room’. I’ve done a simple one 12x25. It’s just like a big Erector set, if well designed.

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:58:21pm

re: #155 Killgore Trout

I’m also pretty worried about the overhead work. I don’t trust myself on a ladder with those panels so I’m probably going to have to build some sort of scaffolding.

if it come to it…call Manpower or whoever…they can help on the cheap

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prairiefire Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:59:05pm

re: #155 Killgore Trout

I’m also pretty worried about the overhead work. I don’t trust myself on a ladder with those panels so I’m probably going to have to build some sort of scaffolding.

My husband’s company has all kinds of classes for on the job safety for workers while most of the folks’ injuries happen at home. Many, many ladder incidents gone awry.

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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:00:38pm

re: #155 Killgore Trout

I’m also pretty worried about the overhead work. I don’t trust myself on a ladder with those panels so I’m probably going to have to build some sort of scaffolding.

You can rent them here for less than the materials cost, and they’re lawyer-rated.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:00:59pm

Just saw this on FB.

The hobbit you just called fat? He’s skipping 2nd breakfast. The dwarf woman you called ugly? She spends hours braiding her beard so you can differentiate her from a dwarf man. The Uruk-Hai you just killed? He was abused by Saruman every day. See that Gollum creature with the gangly limbs and large eyes? The Ring poisoned his mind for 500 years. That elf you just made fun of for crying? He just lost his wizard friend to a Balrog. Repost this if you’re against bullying in Middle-Earth.

That’s funny as shit.

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:03:45pm

I reroofed my house…an enormous cape cod with three dormers…I could not do it alone, so I hired a couple of Manpower type guys…I stripped the entire roof myself and they did all the cleanup…I cleated and set walk boards and they loaded all the shingles for me…it was an 8/12 pitch, pretty steep…I wined them and dined them and gave them a fat bonus…I could not have done it without them…those two ragamuffin workers were outstanding….well worth the cost

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wrenchwench Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:04:48pm

re: #161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just saw this on FB.

That’s funny as shit.

My niece had that on her FB page!

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:05:21pm

support your local bums!

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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:06:09pm

re: #162 albusteve

I reroofed my house…an enormous cape cod with three dormers…I could not do it alone, so I hired a couple of Manpower type guys…I stripped the entire roof myself and they did all the cleanup…I cleated and set walk boards and they loaded all the shingles for me…it was an 8/12 pitch, pretty steep…I wined them and dined them and gave them a fat bonus…I could not have done it without them…those two ragamuffin workers were outstanding…well worth the cost

Yeah, and if they’re from a real temp company, you’re probably covered on Workmens’ Comp, not true if you pick a crew from in front of Home Depot.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:07:55pm

re: #164 albusteve

support your local bums!

Tipping the owner is gauche, but the helper/Manpower types? Always give them a little sumthin’ sumthin’. It is not only appreciated; it is desperately needed.

I always tip them before they start. It’s worked wonders. They tend to do the little extras.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:08:43pm

re: #165 Decatur Deb

Yeah, and if they’re from a real temp company, you’re probably covered on Workmens’ Comp, not EVER EVER EVER EVER true if you pick a crew from in front of Home Depot.

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windsagio Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:10:55pm

all I got was the word ‘ragamuffin’ which is awesome.

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:11:37pm

re: #165 Decatur Deb

Yeah, and if they’re from a real temp company, you’re probably covered on Workmens’ Comp, not true if you pick a crew from in front of Home Depot.

my world is the working world…we tear shit up and rebuild to the specs or better…I spent my whole life around hard working hard drinking guys that just wanted to do their best and get it done…I have little time for sissy whiners…give me a couple of dopes that never heard of LGF and I’ll set them up to learn a trade, make money and drink beer…and I did it over and over again

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:11:49pm

re: #130 goddamnedfrank

I’m ordering the top 10 most endangered species, black rhino, panda, tiger, etc. Each one stuffed inside the next like turducken.

So, you are Chinese?

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:12:39pm

Customer tonight had already hired a couple of guys who “on the side” do HVAC work. He couldn’t find the phone number to cancel our appointment. He was embarrassed, but, they worked really cheap. New furnace, air-conditioning system for a house for under 4 grand. Less than half of anybody else he got quotes from. (I would’ve been the 5th quote).

Without pulling permits, with no workman’s comp, they’re going to replace his gas furnace.

Heh.

A homeowner’s policy can refuse to pay if you hire an uninsured worker to work at your house. Insurance companies can always afford more lawyers than you can.

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:13:19pm

re: #166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Tipping the owner is gauche, but the helper/Manpower types? Always give them a little sumthin’ sumthin’. It is not only appreciated; it is desperately needed.

I always tip them before they start. It’s worked wonders. They tend to do the little extras.

make a man feel needed and he’ll kick ass…my helpers had as much to say as my lead men, and I listened to them

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:13:41pm

re: #162 albusteve

Did you get a permit? :)

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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:14:03pm

re: #169 albusteve

my world is the working world…we tear shit up and rebuild to the specs or better…I spent my whole life around hard working hard drinking guys that just wanted to do their best and get it done…I have little time for sissy whiners…give me a couple of dopes that never heard of LGF and I’ll set them up to learn a trade, make money and drink beer…and I did it over and over again

Except for the drinking, that’s a Habitat volunteer crew (the old hardcore farts especially).

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:14:39pm

re: #171 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh! I forgot to mention that I found out when the work was going to commence and have already alerted the local code enforcement folks.

Does that make me evil? I hope so.

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windsagio Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:15:00pm

re: #175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Snitches get Stitches.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:15:22pm

re: #176 windsagio

Don’t be hatin’!

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:16:03pm

re: #173 Naso Tang

Did you get a permit? :)

no…fuck them…they want a permit they can come to me…bold huh?

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HAL2010 Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:17:36pm

Stossel on Fox News at the moment.

Good lord, the pain.

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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:17:56pm

re: #175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh! I forgot to mention that I found out when the work was going to commence and have already alerted the local code enforcement folks.

Does that make me evil? I hope so.

No—you might have saved his house from the lawyers or the fire. When I upped my attic insulation, I put my hand down on a nail some HVAC genius had driven through the electrical service.

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:18:11pm

re: #174 Decatur Deb

Except for the drinking, that’s a Habitat volunteer crew (the old hardcore farts especially).

we did several Habitat houses…very rewarding

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wrenchwench Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:18:39pm

Well, I didn’t make any money today, so I don’t have to count the till, so I get to go home earlier. (Lots of work came in, so it was a good day anyway.)

I will be unable to access the debate at home. *sniff* <—-///

Later, lizards.

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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:19:14pm

re: #181 albusteve

we did several Habitat houses…very rewarding

Most of our construction leads are guys in the trades, especially during the off season.

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:19:26pm

re: #171 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Customer tonight had already hired a couple of guys who “on the side” do HVAC work. He couldn’t find the phone number to cancel our appointment. He was embarrassed, but, they worked really cheap. New furnace, air-conditioning system for a house for under 4 grand. Less than half of anybody else he got quotes from. (I would’ve been the 5th quote).

Without pulling permits, with no workman’s comp, they’re going to replace his gas furnace.

Heh.

A homeowner’s policy can refuse to pay if you hire an uninsured worker to work at your house. Insurance companies can always afford more lawyers than you can.

Nothing like AC work to pad the quote. I have used someone for years that I have come to trust, but I will still require permits. Not worth the potential hassle if they come a knocking. Also remember, never get multiple quotes if no permit is pulled. That is almost a guarantee of an inspection, called in by one of the losers.

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HAL2010 Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:19:46pm

Fox now arguing that government needs to leave business alone so that the private sector can create jobs.

So, how’s the auto-industry working for yah?

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:21:30pm

re: #184 Naso Tang

LIKE MEEE!

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:21:54pm

re: #183 Decatur Deb

Most of our construction leads are guys in the trades, especially during the off season.

my company could build anything…we had a very good rep and other companies would hire us to do the complicated stuff they couldn’t handle…good relationships…sometimes I miss it, but I was younger then

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:23:29pm

re: #178 albusteve

no…fuck them…they want a permit they can come to me…bold huh?

Not so smart actually. The permit cost is not that great and if you live in the house you can pull it yourself (admittedly I am speaking FL here) . You get an independent codes inspection included and, more importantly, you have the job recorded should you ever sell the property with the same roof.

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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:27:44pm

Re Steve’s 183:

There’s a weird Habitat group called ‘Careavaners”. They wander the country in computer-organized RV convoys, dropping in on worksites that can promise enough to keep them busy. Most are retired, or seasonal workers (the ones that came to us included a chimney-sweep.)
One retired Air Force Civil Engineering guy had a custom trailer that popped open into the most lust-worthy collection of tools, all of them mounted on shadow-painted panels. Give them a look unless you’re going to be cruising with your friend and her medical clinic RV.

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:28:20pm

re: #181 albusteve

we did several Habitat houses…very rewarding

You, Habitat! My mental image just changed. It’s all a front isn’t it? LGF is just your alter ego.

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prairiefire Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:28:45pm

What wondrous revelations will tonight’s GOP debate bring?

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:29:13pm

re: #188 Naso Tang

Not so smart actually. The permit cost is not that great and if you live in the house you can pull it yourself (admittedly I am speaking FL here) . You get an independent codes inspection included and, more importantly, you have the job recorded should you ever sell the property with the same roof.

I know all about permits dude…and I knew all the inspectors and anyone else involved in building…my company was doing 1.5m a year when I sold out

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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:30:54pm

re: #169 albusteve

my world is the working world…we tear shit up and rebuild to the specs or better…I spent my whole life around hard working hard drinking guys that just wanted to do their best and get it done…I have little time for sissy whiners…give me a couple of dopes that never heard of LGF and I’ll set them up to learn a trade, make money and drink beer…and I did it over and over again

Dopes who have heard of LGF need not apply?

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:31:17pm

re: #190 Naso Tang

You, Habitat! My mental image just changed. It’s all a front isn’t it? LGF is just your alter ego.

I’m a very generous guy…too generous sometimes…I look out for the losers, dregs and underdogs…people I can relate to

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:31:28pm

re: #192 albusteve

I know all about permits dude…and I knew all the inspectors and anyone else involved in building…my company was doing 1.5m a year when I sold out

Sucking me in were you?

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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:32:15pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

You could trap them & drop the trap in a garbage can full of water to drown them. Less toxic than the poison, but wear gloves, please!

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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:33:39pm

Going up to look for the debate thread.

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:33:45pm

re: #196 Floral Giraffe

You could trap them & drop the trap in a garbage can full of water to drown them. Less toxic than the poison, but wear gloves, please!

Have you ever seen a rat drown? I have. They have very cute eyes, actually.

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:34:07pm

re: #195 Naso Tang

Sucking me in were you?

no, not at all…I owned my realm back then…inspectors more than likely answered to me…if someone wanted a permit to roof my house they could have had one

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albusteve Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:35:23pm

re: #198 Naso Tang

Have you ever seen a rat drown? I have. They have very cute eyes, actually.

heh…look at me you rat, see you master!

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:38:14pm

re: #199 albusteve

no, not at all…I owned my realm back then…inspectors more than likely answered to me…if someone wanted a permit to roof my house they could have had one

Yes, times have changed though. Now it’s about permit revenue. In 15 years we did about 70 houses. Last three years are dead. Can’t afford the risk and just babysit the rentals we still have, worth half of what we thought was our retirement. Hey, but I’m still working……at something.

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Vicious Babushka Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:41:25pm

re: #185 HAL2010

Fox now arguing that government needs to leave business alone so that the private sector can create jobs.

So, how’s the auto-industry working for yah?

I’m working for the auto industry!

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Achilles Tang Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:52:34pm

re: #185 HAL2010