GOTP-Fox News-Google Debate, Thread 2
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Here’s a wrap-up thread for tonight’s exhibition of extreme far right ideology…
270 comments
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:34:13pm |
So how many of us have survived and made it to the second thread?
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freetoken Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:34:44pm |
I imagine this is like going to watch a debate between two creationists on whether the Earth is 6000 or 10,000 years old… it’s hard to decide for whom to cheer.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:34:54pm |
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thedopefishlives Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:35:12pm |
re: #2 JasonA
So how many of us have survived and made it to the second thread?
Well, I’m here, but my bullshit detector was a casualty almost from the beginning.
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freetoken Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:35:40pm |
Did Google pay for all of this promotion of Youtube?
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Linden Arden Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:35:52pm |
It could be worse.
There is a Palin and a Huckabee not there.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:35:54pm |
Rick Perry had a serious brain freeze at the end of that last segment.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:36:33pm |
Making decisions on faith, and not that pesky science
Candidates take note: If you hope to court the vote of Tea Partiers and evangelicals, be sure to denounce the science of climate change and evolution.
A new study released today by the Public Religion Research Institute contained a host of interesting findings about Americans’ beliefs when it comes to these two topics. Overall, 57 percent of Americans say they believe in evolution (and 61 percent of Catholics, which is still pretty low), although there is some disagreement among them on whether the process of evolution was natural or guided by a supreme being. But only 32 percent of evangelicals and 43 percent of Tea Party supporters think humans have evolved over time.
When it comes to climate change, 69 percent of those polled (and 70 percent of Catholics) say there is strong scientific evidence to prove that global warming isn’t a “myth,” as some claim. But not surprisingly, there’s a strong divide here along political lines - 81 percent of Democrats and only 49 percent of Republicans believe that climate change is real. And at the bottom of the list is the Tea Party, with only 41 percent believing in climate change (evangelicals here are way above the average Republican numbers, with 57 percent agreeing that the earth is getting warmer).
What makes the poll more interesting is that respondents were also asked whether a candidate’s stance on these issues would impact their vote. On evolution, evangelicals were the only group where a large number (32 percent) said they would be more likely to back a candidate who doesn’t believe in evolution. For the Tea Party, a candidate who doesn’t believe in climate change has a stronger appeal to 33 percent of the party members polled.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:37:03pm |
And yes, the crowd really did boo a gay soldier serving in Iraq.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:37:23pm |
re: #13 Charles
And yes, the crowd really did boo a gay soldier serving in Iraq.
…And right about there is where I would’ve lost it and started punching people.
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:37:30pm |
re: #2 JasonA
So how many of us have survived and made it to the second thread?
I think all the moderates in America feel like they are stuck at Dunkirk praying for a miracle..
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:37:50pm |
re: #13 Charles
And yes, the crowd really did boo a gay soldier serving in Iraq.
Wondered how they could top cheering for a poor man to die if he couldn’t pay his medical bills. Now I wonder no longer.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:38:56pm |
“Endorsed by the WSJ”? Gee, I can’t imagine why…///
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Charleston Chew Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:39:20pm |
The pro-military anti-tax party wants to increase taxes on the “50 percent that don’t pay” and the boo an American soldier in Iraq. And they’re core beliefs are what now? They’re not even pretending to stand for something anymore.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:39:28pm |
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thedopefishlives Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:39:36pm |
re: #17 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Wondered how they could top cheering for a poor man to die if he couldn’t pay his medical bills. Now I wonder no longer.
The worst part about this debate? Things are only going to keep getting FURTHER out there. I don’t know how they are going to top themselves, and I’m more than a little afraid to find out.
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:39:49pm |
re: #17 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Wondered how they could top cheering for a poor man to die if he couldn’t pay his medical bills. Now I wonder no longer.
Believe in them, Target. Believe.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:39:59pm |
re: #6 Gus 802
Debate
CrowdChickenhawks BoosGay SoldierIraq War Veteran[Video]
Fucking scum. I feel so bad for any closeted friends, family, or, God forbid, children of these lunatics. Their numbers may be shrinking, but these bigots won’t go away without a fight.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:39:59pm |
re: #13 Charles
And yes, the crowd really did boo a gay soldier serving in Iraq.
Terrible people. Just awful.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:40:16pm |
re: #13 Charles
And yes, the crowd really did boo a gay soldier serving in Iraq.
Yeah, they really did. Shame on them.
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mr.fusion Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:40:28pm |
As this debate wraps up let me just say how refreshing it was to hear some new ideas, concrete policy proposals geared toward turning the economy around, and a frank discussion of ideas.
Oh, and how scary brown people and teh gheys are.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:40:50pm |
re: #21 Charleston Chew
The pro-military anti-tax party wants to increase taxes on the “50 percent that don’t pay” and the boo an American soldier in Iraq. And they’re core beliefs are what now? They’re not even pretending to stand for something anymore.
Tax the poor until they bleed.
Put gay soldiers back in the closet.
No DOE.
No taxes on corporations.
No abortion, at all, ever.
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bratwurst Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:40:53pm |
I…uh…have my doubts that “Obamacare” is actually stopping a lot of businesses from hiring.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:41:01pm |
We place our hands over our hearts? PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!!!!!
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mr.fusion Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:41:12pm |
re: #21 Charleston Chew
The pro-military anti-tax party wants to increase taxes on the “50 percent that don’t pay” and the boo an American soldier in Iraq. And they’re core beliefs are what now? They’re not even pretending to stand for something anymore.
You mean other than eff Obama in the ear hole
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:41:12pm |
Who the hell still uses a calculator and a checkbook? Who still fills out job application forms? These people just have no clue what life is like in the 21st century.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:41:14pm |
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:41:25pm |
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freetoken Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:41:27pm |
Picked some fresh figs tonight - amazing food.
Then I come home to watch this - amazing stupidity.
I’m just amazed.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:41:28pm |
re: #33 wozzablog
Tax the poor until they bleed.
Put gay soldiers back in the closet.
No DOE.
No taxes on corporations.
No abortion, at all, ever.
You know the GOP, they are the common clay of the new west. Morons.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:41:49pm |
I honestly could not bear it. We need schools and clean air and clean water. We need more jobs from the government to get the economy going again and put money into the middle class. That will increase revenue. It worked in the 30’s it will work now. We need new infrastructure.
We need science.
We need sanity.
What we do not need is the repealing of all the structures that make America a worthy and successful nation.
I do not want some cretin theocrat putting his twisted church into my state and imposing it on me.
I do not want to see out justice perverted by bloodlust for executions and trampling basic rights in the name of them protecting me from terrorists.
I do not ant to see women stripped of their rights.
I do not want to see it suddenly become ok again to openly hate blacks or brown people or people of the “wrong” religion.
I do not want the economic status of America to become a third world country with a few wealthy and many many poor. It is almost too late to stop that now as it is.
I do not want these endless lies in the service of plutocrats.
The GOP is against America. They are an elitist party of fear and exclusion. They are a party of ignorance. They are assiduously working to destroy our country and they can not be allowed to win.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:41:58pm |
re: #38 JasonA
He’s remembering a Norman Rockwell painting he saw once.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:41:59pm |
re: #41 freetoken
Picked some fresh figs tonight - amazing food.
Then I come home to watch this - amazing stupidity.
I’m just amazed.
Try just being whelmed.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:42:03pm |
re: #35 bratwurst
I…uh…don’t think “Obamacare” is actually stopping a lot of businesses from hiring.
DEATH PANELS!!!11one
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:42:18pm |
re: #38 JasonA
Who the hell still uses a calculator and a checkbook? Who still fills out job application forms? These people just have no clue what life is like in the 21st century.
Well, remember, most of these guys haven’t held a job in the private sector in years that didn’t come with a six-figure or higher salary.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:42:25pm |
I didn’t see most of the debate. i was having dinner with my parents tonight. My mother made pork roast to a new recipe, and as always: When my mother tries something new like that after planning it well, its great! She did a splendid job.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:42:38pm |
People create highway bridges, not the government. It’s people!
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Charleston Chew Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:43:03pm |
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:43:04pm |
Zombie Reagan’s getting a real workout tonight.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:43:19pm |
re: #39 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
You sound surprised.
No, just annoyed and sad. I’m too tired to be angry.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:43:22pm |
re: #56 Atlas Fails
Zombie Reagan’s getting a real workout tonight.
So are the lizardoid hip flasks.
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mr.fusion Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:43:32pm |
re: #43 LudwigVanQuixote
Here here!
What I do want is a legitimate second party that can challenge the incumbent through truth, facts, science and sound policy.
Unfortunately it’s abundantly clear that we will not be getting that in this election
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:43:44pm |
re: #43 LudwigVanQuixote
I honestly could not bear it. We need schools and clean air and clean water. We need more jobs from the government to get the economy going again and put money into the middle class. That will increase revenue. It worked in the 30’s it will work now. We need new infrastructure.
We need science.
We need sanity.
What we do not need is the repealing of all the structures that make America a worthy and successful nation.
I do not want some cretin theocrat putting his twisted church into my state and imposing it on me.
I do not want to see out justice perverted by bloodlust for executions and trampling basic rights in the name of them protecting me from terrorists.
I do not ant to see women stripped of their rights.
I do not want to see it suddenly become ok again to openly hate blacks or brown people or people of the “wrong” religion.
I do not want the economic status of America to become a third world country with a few wealthy and many many poor. It is almost too late to stop that now as it is.
I do not want these endless lies in the service of plutocrats.
The GOP is against America. They are an elitist party of fear and exclusion. They are a party of ignorance. They are assiduously working to destroy our country and they can not be allowed to win.
This. All of this X 1000
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:43:54pm |
Okay, I’m done with the debate. Let me know if they start to cheer for slavery or something.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:44:02pm |
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Charleston Chew Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:44:03pm |
Santorum decides to quote some obscure fellow names Ronald Reagan. Bold.
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:44:36pm |
president obama doesn’t understand that the essence of america is GET OFF MY LAWN
///
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Charles Johnson Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:44:56pm |
Gary Johnson goes for the poop joke, gets huge applause. This is a bathroom crowd.
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Charleston Chew Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:44:58pm |
Obama is King George and an anti-Imperialist!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:45:09pm |
re: #62 JasonA
Okay, I’m done with the debate. Let me know if they start to cheer for slavery or something.
Yeah, I’m pretty much done myself. This is just word salad.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:45:41pm |
re: #60 mr.fusion
Here here!
What I do want is a legitimate second party that can challenge the incumbent through truth, facts, science and sound policy.
Unfortunately it’s abundantly clear that we will not be getting that in this election
Elitist.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:45:42pm |
re: #69 Charleston Chew
Obama is King George and an anti-Imperialist!
I thought he was a Kenyan anti-colonialist.
//
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freetoken Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:45:46pm |
re: #71 Killgore Trout
Yeah, I’m pretty much done myself. This is just word salad.
Making a salad is about what that group is good for.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:45:53pm |
re: #63 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
My liver just dialed 911.
/
Does your liver have Teabagger-approved health insurance? If not, IT DESERVES TO DIE!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:45:57pm |
re: #61 moderatelyradicalliberal
This. All of this X 1000
Thank you.
Also sorry to plug it again, but, I really think it is very relevant:
How to know when to see a red flag in Science.
I see this as a sort of science troll hammer for all occasions.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:46:04pm |
Ok, I’ll stick around for Blondie McHurtbrain. She’s my favorite. Ooooh, look. A word cloud.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:46:06pm |
re: #68 Charles
Gary Johnson goes for the poop joke, gets huge applause. This is a bathroom crowd.
This crowd has an attention span measured in nanoseconds. They’d cheer if somebody on the crowd called to reinstate slavery because it would put people back to work.
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BongCrodny Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:46:13pm |
Dear Log Cabin Republicans:
You guys are nuts.
Your pal,
Bong
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:46:15pm |
Santorum: “Obama is the new King George the 3rd.”
FAIL
Huntsman: “My nextdoor neighbor’s two dogs have generated more shovel-ready jobs than this administration.”
SUCCEED (It’s a great line and not over-the-top)
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:46:16pm |
Obama’s the new King George III, apparently. Does it get any stupider?
Edit: Yes. The Dude I’ve Never Heard Of just said his neighbor’s two dogs created more shovel-ready jobs than Obama. Oh, and if the FairTax doesn’t create jobs, he doesn’t know what does.
/Bangs head off keyboard
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:46:17pm |
re: #68 Charles
Gary Johnson goes for the poop joke, gets huge applause. This is a bathroom crowd.
Because nothing says presidential like a good poop joke
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:46:41pm |
re: #68 Charles
Gary Johnson goes for the poop joke, gets huge applause. This is a bathroom crowd.
The GOP *is* in the toilet.
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mr.fusion Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:47:07pm |
re: #82 Atlas Fails
Edit: Yes. The Dude I’ve Never Heard Of just said his neighbor’s two dogs created more shovel-ready jobs than Obama. Oh, and if the FairTax doesn’t create jobs, he doesn’t know what does.
Honestly……………I thought that was a great line
For me to poop on!!!
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:47:26pm |
Johnson is pretty funny.. If he doesn’t get elected I could see him doing a half hour sitcom on the comedy channel
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wee fury Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:47:44pm |
re: #81 Dark_Falcon
Santorum: “Obama is the new King George the 3rd.”
FAIL
Huntsman: “My nextdoor neighbor’s two dogs have generated more shovel-ready jobs than this administration.”
SUCCEED (It’s a great line and not over-the-top)
I LOL’d it.
Oooooo, my liking of bathroom humor is obvious.
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Charleston Chew Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:47:52pm |
It feels like the filmography of Mel Gibson is running for President. The Patriot (Santorum) vs Mad Max (Paul) vs. The Passion of The Christ (the rest).
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:48:05pm |
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
I didn’t see most of the debate. i was having dinner with my parents tonight. My mother made pork roast to a new recipe, and as always: When my mother tries something new like that after planning it well, its great! She did a splendid job.
Sounds much better than the debate. Tasty, even.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:48:26pm |
re: #81 Dark_Falcon
Santorum: “Obama is the new King George the 3rd.”
FAIL
Huntsman: “My nextdoor neighbor’s two dogs have generated more shovel-ready jobs than this administration.”
SUCCEED (It’s a great line and not over-the-top)
FAIL. I seem to recall him giving Huntsman a job not too long ago.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:48:43pm |
re: #62 JasonA
Okay, I’m done with the debate. Let me know if they start to cheer for slavery or something.
I wish I thought to myself that that was hyperbole. But they seem to have basically lost it at this point.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:48:48pm |
re: #81 Dark_Falcon
Santorum: “Obama is the new King George the 3rd.”
FAIL
Huntsman: “My nextdoor neighbor’s two dogs have generated more shovel-ready jobs than this administration.”
SUCCEED (It’s a great line and not over-the-top)
Huntsman had a good line there. I disagree fundamentally with the meta-premise, but it was a good line in the context.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:49:23pm |
re: #68 Charles
Gary Johnson goes for the poop joke, gets huge applause. This is a bathroom crowd.
Give him his credit, Charles. It was a funny joke.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:49:35pm |
re: #91 moderatelyradicalliberal
FAIL. I seem to recall him giving Huntsman a job not too long ago.
He is frantically gaining amnesia on that point.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:49:37pm |
re: #87 HoosierHoops
Johnson is pretty funny.. If he doesn’t get elected I could see him doing a half hour sitcom on the comedy channel
He’s not funny. He’s just high on the pot he wants to legalize.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:49:41pm |
I would choose Vlad Tsepes as my VP. Clearly he would do a great job on keeping immigrants away from the border.
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:49:49pm |
newt gingrich is not going to be maneuvered into talking about anybody but newt gingrich
did i mention newt gingrich?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:49:59pm |
re: #88 wee fury
I LOL’d it.
Oooo, my liking of bathroom humor is obvious.
It was Johnson though, not Huntsman.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:50:09pm |
JeffSharlet tweets:
Man-on-Dog/Newt. Abomination.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:50:27pm |
re: #99 engineer dog
newt gingrich is not going to be maneuvered into talking about anybody but newt gingrich
did i mention newt gingrich?
Bob Dole wants to know why you’re not talking about Bob Dole?
//
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freetoken Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:50:39pm |
Does Romney really believe Bachmann would be a better President than Obama?
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thedopefishlives Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:50:47pm |
re: #94 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Hey, Ron, internet polls don’t count.
Careful there, the Paulbots might hear you. All two of them.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:51:00pm |
re: #102 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Bob Dole wants to know why you’re not talking about Bob Dole?
//
Bob Dole.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:51:14pm |
All of them are such good guys….
And Mitt backpedals on Perry.
But hate Obama!
One thing for sure…
We hate Obama!
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Altermite Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:51:17pm |
So perry would run with herman cain, if herman cain was a little like gingrich. You know, white.
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Gus Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:51:46pm |
Good thing I have some Jim Beam. This thing is bad enough without even watching. Just reading some of the tidbits.
The Republican Party has turned to shit.
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freetoken Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:51:51pm |
No, Michelle, President Obama doesn’t have the lowest approval rating of any President.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:51:58pm |
EXCUSE ME?! Michele, did you just suffer 8 years of amnesia?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:52:03pm |
re: #107 LudwigVanQuixote
All of them are such good guys…
And Mitt backpedals on Perry.
But hate Obama!
One thing for sure…
We hate Obama!
Hate Obama? No.
But like me Mitt Romney wants Obama gone.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:52:09pm |
The President does not have the lowest approval ratings.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:52:09pm |
re: #103 freetoken
Does Romney really believe Bachmann would be a better President than Obama?
In public.
But in the dark recess of whats left of his soul after being so absolutely fake about everything for the last two decades - i believe he knows the truth.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:52:18pm |
re: #107 LudwigVanQuixote
All of them are such good guys…
And Mitt backpedals on Perry.
But hate Obama!
One thing for sure…
We hate Obama!
Rep. Joe Walsh: Media Protects President Obama Because He is Black
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:52:20pm |
Obama has the lowest presidential approval rating of all time? Holy shit, she really does just make this up as she goes along.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:52:20pm |
re: #103 freetoken
Does Romney really believe Bachmann would be a better President than Obama?
If Bachmann became the nominee at least 40%-45% of the country would vote for her, so odds are he actually might.
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wee fury Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:52:24pm |
I’m a registered Independent.
All should cater to me.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:52:34pm |
Ohh token black guy… and they all tongue kiss Gingritch.
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Charleston Chew Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:52:47pm |
re: #115 Decatur Deb
The President does not have the lowest approval ratings.
“In modern times” meaning starting…. now!
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:52:59pm |
newt has a profound depth of something, but it ain’t knowledge
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:53:13pm |
re: #114 Dark_Falcon
To be replaced with one of these clowns? Really?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:53:13pm |
re: #112 freetoken
No, Michelle, President Obama doesn’t have the lowest approval rating of any President.
At this point in his presidency, he does. Bush was a good bit higher in late 2003.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:53:34pm |
re: #123 Charleston Chew
“In modern times” meaning starting… now!
Don’t you know? Modern history started on 1/21/09.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:53:36pm |
re: #118 Atlas Fails
Obama has the lowest presidential approval rating of all time? Holy shit, she really does just make this up as she goes along.
Wow, that’s an ass pull of cosmic proportions.
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Gus Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:53:56pm |
re: #126 Dark_Falcon
At this point in his presidency, he does. Bush was a good bit higher in late 2003.
That’s pretty funny.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:54:22pm |
re: #130 freetoken
Aha… Google did pay for it.
And their slogan is supposed to be “Don’t be evil.” Oh, Google. How I used to respect you.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:54:26pm |
My favorite moment: Rick Perry’s fantasy of Herman Cain and New Gingrich “mating.”
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:54:36pm |
re: #57 Dark_Falcon
No, just annoyed and sad. I’m too tired to be angry.
Be angry, or don’t. But no one should ever be surprised/disappointed/annoyed, etc, when conservative bigots behave like conservative bigots.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:54:36pm |
re: #119 moderatelyradicalliberal
If Bachmann became the nominee at least 40%-45% of the country would vote for her, so odds are he actually might.
Yeah, she gains voter numbers in Alabama, Georgia and Louisiana. Still gets whipped in the electoral college by a spread.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:54:42pm |
re: #126 Dark_Falcon
At this point in his presidency, he does. Bush was a good bit higher in late 2003.
Reagan’s numbers were roughly where Obama’s are now at the same point in his first term.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:55:05pm |
re: #126 Dark_Falcon
At this point in his presidency, he does. Bush was a good bit higher in late 2003.
Not true, both Clinton and Reagan got as low as the low 30s during the third year of their presidencies. Obama is actually over performing in comparison.
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BongCrodny Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:55:06pm |
re: #117 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Rep. Joe Walsh: Media Protects President Obama Because He is Black
I remember that old Joe Walsh album, “The Smoker You Get, The Player You Derp.”
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:55:07pm |
re: #134 Charles
My favorite moment: Rick Perry’s fantasy of Herman Cain and New Gingrich “mating.”
In Texas they can do that - but don’t call ‘em queer!
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allegro Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:55:10pm |
Oh jeez Karauthammer… the creepy looking snapping turtle faced guy.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:55:27pm |
re: #134 Charles
My favorite moment: Rick Perry’s fantasy of Herman Cain and New Gingrich “mating.”
MY EYES!
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:55:28pm |
re: #134 Charles
My favorite moment: Rick Perry’s fantasy of Herman Cain and New Gingrich “mating.”
BRAIN BLEACH!!!
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Altermite Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:55:33pm |
Is it just me, or does bachmann sound more like Palin as the primary debates wear on?
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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:55:42pm |
Pres. Obama approval aggregated by RCP, a moderate-right site.
[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com…]
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:56:02pm |
“Modern” presidents with lower approval ratings (at one point) than Obama:
Truman, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Bush I, Clinton, Shrub Jr.
The modern GOP really is a confederacy of dunces.
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Romantic Heretic Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:56:17pm |
re: #15 HoosierHoops
I think all the moderates in America feel like they are stuck at Dunkirk praying for a miracle..
I thought of using The Alamo as a metaphor, but then I remembered that no one survived that one.
Plus I’m sure Gov. Goodhair has trademarked that idea. /
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:56:28pm |
re: #57 Dark_Falcon
No, just annoyed and sad. I’m too tired to be angry.
This is your GOP, Dark.
This is where it’s come to.
Someone who flirts with secessionism and lying says that Texas can leave the union any time it wants is a front runner.
And they boo gay veterans.
That’s what you have. You were warned, all y’all in the GOP, that if you continued along the dangerous path, this is where you’d be. You didn’t listen.
Now you’re going to have to defend this. You’re going to have to defend naked bigotry, lying to the American people, and secession.
Have fun.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:56:41pm |
re: #117 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Rep. Joe Walsh: Media Protects President Obama Because He is Black
Has that SOB paid his damn child support yet?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:57:20pm |
re: #114 Dark_Falcon
Hate Obama? No.
But like me Mitt Romney wants Obama gone.
Cripes, I hope that socon confederate pos Perry gets the nomination.
Obama in a landslide. /
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jaunte Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:58:17pm |
Apparently the concrete floor is going to be blamed for the booing.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:58:37pm |
re: #151 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Cripes, I hope that socon confederate pos Perry gets the nomination.
Obama in a landslide. /
Democratic slogan - “Stamp Rick Perrys passport, send him back to Texas”
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freetoken Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:58:41pm |
BTW, this whole National Idolatry that the far right has would, one might think, run counter to their supposedly literalistic religion which supposedly is based on the Bible… but somehow it doesn’t.
Group Cognitive Dissonance on display.
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Gus Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:58:46pm |
re: #149 Obdicut
This is your GOP, Dark.
This is where it’s come to.
Someone who flirts with secessionism and lying says that Texas can leave the union any time it wants is a front runner.
And they boo gay veterans.
That’s what you have. You were warned, all y’all in the GOP, that if you continued along the dangerous path, this is where you’d be. You didn’t listen.
Now you’re going to have to defend this. You’re going to have to defend naked bigotry, lying to the American people, and secession.
Have fun.
Let’s face it. The Tea Klux Klan wants an all white, heterosexual, male and Protestant Christian Army.
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:59:06pm |
re: #147 Atlas Fails
“Modern” presidents with lower approval ratings (at one point) than Obama:
Truman, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Bush I, Clinton, Shrub Jr.
The modern GOP really is a confederacy of dunces.
if you go to gallup you can find a screen that allows you to superimpose the gallup approval rating of all presidents since truman on the same graph
if you put in reagan and clinton over obama, you find that all three of them have startlingly similar ratings trends so far
on the other hand, if obama is not over 50% by christmas, democrats can start to worry…
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:59:13pm |
re: #149 Obdicut
This is your GOP, Dark.
This is where it’s come to.
Someone who flirts with secessionism and lying says that Texas can leave the union any time it wants is a front runner.
And they boo gay veterans.
That’s what you have. You were warned, all y’all in the GOP, that if you continued along the dangerous path, this is where you’d be. You didn’t listen.
Now you’re going to have to defend this. You’re going to have to defend naked bigotry, lying to the American people, and secession.
Have fun.
Andrew Sullivan summed it up best in his live blog post tonight:
And again, the crowd reveals itself as hateful - even when it comes to those serving their country in uniform. This is one core reason why I cannot be a Republican. So many are bigots - and no one - no one - stands up against them. They’re a bunch of bullies congratulating themselves on rooting out the queers..
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allegro Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:59:23pm |
re: #151 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Cripes, I hope that socon confederate pos Perry gets the nomination.
Obama in a landslide. /
I do too for two reasons… well OK, three:
1.To see him in a debate with Obama. Heh
2. To see him get creamed there and in the general election.
3. To see him out of the damn governor’s office in Texas. If it worked. I wish.
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freetoken Thu, Sep 22, 2011 7:59:59pm |
re: #155 Gus 802
Let’s face it. The Tea Klux Klan wants an all white, heterosexual, male and Protestant Christian Army.
… fighting to keep Israel safe until Jesus returns to throw them into the lake of fire.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:00:06pm |
Oooh, teabagger in full uniform! These fuckwads boo real soldiers and live in a fantasy world where they’re part of a second Revolution. I’m going to bed pissed off tonight.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:00:11pm |
re: #157 moderatelyradicalliberal
I’m not watching. Did any of the GOP candidates stand up for the gay guy, at least tell people not to boo a veteran?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:00:12pm |
re: #149 Obdicut
This is your GOP, Dark.
This is where it’s come to.
Someone who flirts with secessionism and lying says that Texas can leave the union any time it wants is a front runner.
And they boo gay veterans.
That’s what you have. You were warned, all y’all in the GOP, that if you continued along the dangerous path, this is where you’d be. You didn’t listen.
Now you’re going to have to defend this. You’re going to have to defend naked bigotry, lying to the American people, and secession.
Have fun.
Yes he is. I like Dark. I do. So I don’t want to be mean about it, but
DF, you know what they - any of them will cost this nation in terms of all of our pillars of stability. You know what they will cost this nation in terms of ruining the economy and manipulating the laws for their masters - thus destroying the free market while chanting they will save it. You know about the perils of AGW and how that will destroy this country eventually outright.
How can you support them in any way?
You know I am not Obama’s biggest fan, but he is not so terrible and has also done a lot of things right. These guys are all wrong on all the major things in ways that we will not easily recover from. How can you support any of them?
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Romantic Heretic Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:00:31pm |
re: #43 LudwigVanQuixote
Preach it, brother!
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jaunte Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:00:55pm |
re: #161 Obdicut
I’m not watching. Did any of the GOP candidates stand up for the gay guy, at least tell people not to boo a veteran?
No one said a thing about it.
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Gus Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:00:57pm |
re: #159 freetoken
… fighting to keep Israel safe until Jesus returns to throw them into the lake of fire.
Comforting thought.
Imagine being an Israeli and listening to that shit?
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:01:29pm |
re: #156 engineer dog
if you go to gallup you can find a screen that allows you to superimpose the gallup approval rating of all presidents since truman on the same graph
if you put in reagan and clinton over obama, you find that all three of them have startlingly similar ratings trends so far
on the other hand, if obama is not over 50% by christmas, democrats can start to worry…
Were are already gearing up for one hell of a fight. I don’t think the Democrats or Obama are complacent. But he has a better chance of being reelected than he had of being elected the first time.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:01:32pm |
re: #160 Atlas Fails
Oooh, teabagger in full uniform! These fuckwads boo real soldiers and live in a fantasy world where they’re part of a second Revolution. I’m going to bed pissed off tonight.
Tell others. Scream it from the mountains. We have to get our people out to the vote. We can not let these cretins and slime bags ruin our democracy and our nation.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:01:36pm |
re: #158 allegro
I do too for two reasons… well OK, three:
1.To see him in a debate with Obama. Heh
2. To see him get creamed there and in the general election.
3. To see him out of the damn governor’s office in Texas. If it worked. I wish.
I just want the filthy confeds to once again get their noses rubbed in their miseries by Obama. /Schadenfreude
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:02:02pm |
re: #117 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Rep. Joe Walsh: Media Protects President Obama Because He is Black
I’m ashamed to admit Joe Walsh is from Illinois. I’m not in his district, but our new Senator Mark Kirk did call Walsh out for his DERPing over Obama’s congressional address earlier this month.
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BongCrodny Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:02:08pm |
re: #161 Obdicut
I’m not watching. Did any of the GOP candidates stand up for the gay guy, at least tell people not to boo a veteran?
You knew the answer before jaunte answered, didn’t you?
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:02:28pm |
re: #161 Obdicut
I’m not watching. Did any of the GOP candidates stand up for the gay guy, at least tell people not to boo a veteran?
Nope, like last week when Paul was being asked if a poor guy should be allowed to die if he can’t pay his medical bills, they just went on with the debate as though the crowd was silent.
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:02:47pm |
re: #98 LudwigVanQuixote
I would choose Vlad Tsepes as my VP. Clearly he would do a great job on keeping immigrants away from the border.
I would win in a landslide with Beyonce’ as my VP..It wouldn’t even be fair..
I’d have 50 cent ad my defense sec.. ( Who messes with him?)
Sec of State? George Clooney..Everybody loves him
The WH Press secretary would be Brad Pitt…It’s really just a charm job any way..Admit it..Plus we could give Helen Thomas’s old center seat to a worthy media outlet.. Like the Sun or something..
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:02:53pm |
re: #162 LudwigVanQuixote
I think what bugs me most is the simple constant lies. It’s not exagerrations or playing with the truth. And it’s lies about things that matter.
Like “Government doesn’t create jobs. The stimulus didn’t create a single job.”
“Texas can secede from the union whenever it wants.”
“Science doesn’t agree on whether AGW is occurring.”
These are not trivial issues they’re lying about. These are important issues. They’re something that, as potential leaders of the US, they should be informing their citizens about.
Instead, they’re lying to them. They’re harming them by doing so.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:03:07pm |
re: #153 wozzablog
Democratic slogan - “Stamp Rick Perrys passport, send him back to Texas”
Let him run for President of Texas.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:03:10pm |
re: #169 Dark_Falcon
DF, I like you. I am not trying to be mean. I just want to understand. You know what they - any of them will cost this nation in terms of all of our pillars of stability. You know what they will cost this nation in terms of ruining the economy and manipulating the laws for their masters - thus destroying the free market while chanting they will save it. You know about the perils of AGW and how that will destroy this country eventually outright.
How can you support them in any way?
You know I am not Obama’s biggest fan, but he is not so terrible and has also done a lot of things right. These guys are all wrong on all the major things in ways that we will not easily recover from. How can you support any of them?
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:03:27pm |
re: #161 Obdicut
I’m not watching. Did any of the GOP candidates stand up for the gay guy, at least tell people not to boo a veteran?
I’m not watching either. Just monitoring various liveblogs. I can’t watch these people. I don’t like them and find them too repulsive.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:03:34pm |
re: #166 moderatelyradicalliberal
Were are already gearing up for one hell of a fight. I don’t think the Democrats or Obama are complacent. But he has a better chance of being reelected than he had of being elected the first time.
Obama carries the vast majority of states he took last time with a couple of purple ones swapping.
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bratwurst Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:03:40pm |
Wow, looks like Perry’s somewhat moderate stance on immigration matters is really going to cost him!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:04:07pm |
I suppose it’s ancient history at this point in the day, but Thaddeus McCotter/whoever is bowing out.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:04:11pm |
re: #173 Obdicut
I think what bugs me most is the simple constant lies. It’s not exagerrations or playing with the truth. And it’s lies about things that matter.
Like “Government doesn’t create jobs. The stimulus didn’t create a single job.”
“Texas can secede from the union whenever it wants.”
“Science doesn’t agree on whether AGW is occurring.”
These are not trivial issues they’re lying about. These are important issues. They’re something that, as potential leaders of the US, they should be informing their citizens about.
Instead, they’re lying to them. They’re harming them by doing so.
Preach it!
Of late, you have come to the level of disgust I reached about two years ago.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:04:15pm |
re: #178 bratwurst
sarahposner tweets:
Woman in focus group calls Perry’s statement on not having a heart if you deny children of undocumented education “disgusting”
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:04:48pm |
re: #171 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Nope, like last week when Paul was being asked if a poor guy should be allowed to die if he can’t pay his medical bills, they just went on with the debate as though the crowd was silent.
And this is the real problem. The GOP is full of ignorant bigots and no one in the GOP leadership ever stands up to them, which makes them just as bad.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:04:58pm |
re: #164 jaunte
Oh. I was hoping someone, Huntsman maybe, would have the balls to defend a service member who risked their life for their country.
This reminds me of back in WWII, where active duty black soldiers had to eat a sandwich in an alley while Nazi POWS were allowed to sit inside the cafe and eat.
Veteran? Great! Wait, you’re a gay veteran? Fuck off and die.
How does that make any sense?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:05:03pm |
re: #175 LudwigVanQuixote
DF, I like you. I am not trying to be mean. I just want to understand. You know what they - any of them will cost this nation in terms of all of our pillars of stability. You know what they will cost this nation in terms of ruining the economy and manipulating the laws for their masters - thus destroying the free market while chanting they will save it. You know about the perils of AGW and how that will destroy this country eventually outright.
How can you support them in any way?
You know I am not Obama’s biggest fan, but he is not so terrible and has also done a lot of things right. These guys are all wrong on all the major things in ways that we will not easily recover from. How can you support any of them?
Easy. I think that most of them are better economically that Obama and stronger on national security matters. That said, I would vote for Obama over Bachmann or Paul, because I am convinced those two are dangerous lunatics.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:05:35pm |
re: #182 moderatelyradicalliberal
And this is the real problem. The GOP is full of ignorant bigots and no one in the GOP leadership ever stands up to them, which makes them just as bad.
McCain, bless him, tried that with crazy ‘he’s a Muslim’ lady. All those years ago.
I don’t think any of this batch would do that.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:05:39pm |
re: #176 moderatelyradicalliberal
I’m not watching either. Just monitoring various liveblogs. I can’t watch these people. I don’t like them and find them too repulsive.
They are repellent, miserable assholes. Their filthy bigoted constituents/pandering targets are even lower than they are.
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sagehen Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:06:15pm |
re: #126 Dark_Falcon
At this point in his presidency, he does. Bush was a good bit higher in late 2003.
On Sep 10 2001, Bush’s approval rating was below 50%. On Sept 11 he got the rally-round-the-flag effect, went up to over 90%. And then dropped by 10 points every year, consistently, for the remainder of his time in office, ending up at 23%.
Which is lower than Nixon had the day he resigned.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:06:41pm |
re: #177 wozzablog
Obama carries the vast majority of states he took last time with a couple of purple ones swapping.
He probably won’t carry Indiana again. That was truly a fluke. Maybe not New Hampshire either. The best thing that Obama has going for him in swing states like OH and FL is the current Republican governments they have.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:07:08pm |
re: #184 Dark_Falcon
Easy. I think that most of them are better economically that Obama and stronger on national security matters. That said, I would vote for Obama over Bachmann or Paul, because I am convinced those two are dangerous lunatics.
Bachmann or Paul aren’t going to be on the ballot. The other dangerous lunatics are. /Schadenfreude
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:07:37pm |
I also saw at least two men tonight in Continental Army garb. Is it wrong to feel quite certain that they would be crying for their mothers were they exposed to Baron von Steuben’s discipline?
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:07:51pm |
re: #184 Dark_Falcon
No, Dark. You don’t get to say that you ‘think’ that they’re better economically. What you mean is that someone else has told you that they are and you believe them. That’s what you’ve said; you haven’t actually applied your own critical thought to it.
What do you think of none of them, absolutely none of them, standing up for the honor and dignity of that veteran, but letting the crowd boo him like they were a bunch of hippies seeing a soldier getting back from ‘nam?
These are people you can support? That won’t stand up for a veteran asking an honest question on an important subject?
How much has the anti-gay policy in the military cost us in terms of readiness? How many expertly-trained men and women have been ousted because of it?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:07:56pm |
re: #186 SanFranciscoZionist
McCain, bless him, tried that with crazy ‘he’s a Muslim’ lady. All those years ago.
I don’t think any of this batch would do that.
Yeah, McCain got booed by his own bigots for that, too.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:08:07pm |
re: #183 Obdicut
Oh. I was hoping someone, Huntsman maybe, would have the balls to defend a service member who risked their life for their country.
This reminds me of back in WWII, where active duty black soldiers had to eat a sandwich in an alley while Nazi POWS were allowed to sit inside the cafe and eat.
Veteran? Great! Wait, you’re a gay veteran? Fuck off and die.
How does that make any sense?
It was then topped by Santorum pushing the “Social Experiment” bit about DADT being abolished and trying to argue in favor of shoving “teh ghey” back into the closet if they wish to serve.
I’d laugh if I thought these morons had no real chance at the presidency. But, sadly, they do. And so I’m left wondering when this Great Experiment went so horribly wrong, that we’re arguing in favor of taking the country back to the 18th century.
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sagehen Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:08:55pm |
re: #193 Obdicut
How much has the anti-gay policy in the military cost us in terms of readiness? How many expertly-trained men and women have been ousted because of it?
More than 13,000. Hundreds of whom were Arabic translators.
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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:09:26pm |
It’s almost sad that I’m sympathetic towards Perry. I think he’d make a terrible President. But I do get the sense he has more sympathy for people than the other candidates up there. Or he’s willing to express it, even if it means that he loses the nomination.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:09:37pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:09:44pm |
re: #172 HoosierHoops
Is she a republican and well is she moral enough for the GOP?
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Gus Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:09:57pm |
re: #184 Dark_Falcon
Easy. I think that most of them are better economically that Obama and stronger on national security matters. That said, I would vote for Obama over Bachmann or Paul, because I am convinced those two are dangerous lunatics.
National security? You mean like finally focusing on Afghanistan which was ignored for almost 10 years by a Republican administration? Or the part where defense spending set a record as far spending? Or the increased funding for veterans care and benefits?
Name one national security mistake that Obama made. Not a policy disagreement but a national security mistake that led to an actual attack on the USA.
Oh. And don’t forget. Obama got Osama bin Laden. Hook. Line. And sinker. All the way to the bottom of the sea.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:10:04pm |
re: #184 Dark_Falcon
Easy. I think that most of them are better economically that Obama and stronger on national security matters. That said, I would vote for Obama over Bachmann or Paul, because I am convinced those two are dangerous lunatics.
On national security? Really? What are the foreign policy credentials of Romney and Perry? Obama is the president who got OBL. Are you seriously saying he isn’t doing a good job protecting America and any of these jokers would be better? I know you may not share his economic views, but Obama has been kick ass on foreign policy.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:10:31pm |
re: #197 bloodstar
He’s just a conman, I think not a madman, and that makes him comparatively the more ethical one, which is depressing.
And he doesn’t have Romney’s grim calculus thing going.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:10:36pm |
re: #192 Dark_Falcon
I also saw at least two men tonight in Continental Army garb. Is it wrong to feel quite certain that they would be crying for their mothers were they exposed to Baron von Steuben’s discipline?
Nah, they’d be too busy screaming that they’re not going to take no orders from no queer officer, no matter what Washington told them to do.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:10:50pm |
re: #184 Dark_Falcon
But their economic theories will only cause greater debt and further strangle the middle class. This is math, not opinion. The CBO agrees.
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Gus Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:10:54pm |
Romney and Perry are better than Obama on national security.
Seriously. I can’t stop laughing.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:11:08pm |
re: #184 Dark_Falcon
Easy. I think that most of them are better economically that Obama and stronger on national security matters. That said, I would vote for Obama over Bachmann or Paul, because I am convinced those two are dangerous lunatics.
Romney - Genuine politician (not a compliment, but best of a bad lot).
Cain - Publicity stunt on behalf of Herman Cain.
Gingrich - Doesn’t get out the primaries, plus, also unpallatable to most people in the Gingrich family.
Santorum - How he is still forming a creer, let alone two coherent sentences without remarking in a creepy level on Gods Glory and the Gay Mafia is worthy or props.
Huntsman - Mr Anonymous gets swept because he lacks personality and is far too easily poirtrayed as spurned. Probably a nice guy, with a decent grip on issues, but can’t be himself until the General (which he won’t make).
Bachmann - Loon.
Paul - Loon.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:11:22pm |
re: #195 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
It was then topped by Santorum pushing the “Social Experiment” bit about DADT being abolished and trying to argue in favor of shoving “teh ghey” back into the closet if they wish to serve.
I’d laugh if I thought these morons had no real chance at the presidency. But, sadly, they do. And so I’m left wondering when this Great Experiment went so horribly wrong, that we’re arguing in favor of taking the country back to the 18th century.
Lol I love it when conservatives point and cry about so-called “social experiments”.
What do they think their antigay policies, males-first/males-only policies and Jim Crow policies were, but “social experiments”.
Dumb states rights bigots. lol
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:12:31pm |
re: #200 Gus 802
National security? You mean like finally focusing on Afghanistan which was ignored for almost 10 years by a Republican administration? Or the part where defense spending set a record as far spending? Or the increased funding for veterans care and benefits?
Name one national security mistake that Obama made. Not a policy disagreement but a national security mistake that led to an actual attack on the USA.
Oh. And don’t forget. Obama got Osama bib Laden. Hook. Line. And sinker. All the way to the bottom of the sea.
That SOB is literally sleeping with the fishes thanks to BHO. He’s been a beast on foreign policy.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:13:39pm |
re: #203 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Nah, they’d be too busy screaming that they’re not going to take no orders from no queer officer, no matter what Washington told them to do.
And that is the heart of why they need the government to implement things like Jim Crow and antigay policies for them.
Can’t compete. Oh well, sux to be them today.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:13:55pm |
You know what’s astonishing? That despite the bigotry, fear, and hatred thrown at them, that we have gay people brave and patriotic enough to sign up for the military.
Fucking heroes. Getting booed. For… serving their country. Or for what they are.
And those smug pricks on stage not lifting a finger to stop it. Go ahead and boo the gay veteran. After you’re done, I’ll tell him that not ordering him to lie about who he is is a ‘social experiment’.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:14:01pm |
re: #209 moderatelyradicalliberal
That SOB is literally sleeping with the fishes thanks to BHO. He’s been a beast on foreign policy.
Just ask the people in that Pakistani country that the President of Texas was a’jawin about.
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The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:14:02pm |
re: #98 LudwigVanQuixote
I would choose Vlad Tsepes as my VP. Clearly he would do a great job on keeping immigrants away from the border.
Remember that Vlad was mostly impaling boyars who were placing personal interests and profit over the overall stability of the state. I would love to see him react to the TP folks that yammer about secession.
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:14:44pm |
if the gop doesn’t do well next year, it might be traced back to the degrading reactions of the audience in these debates
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:15:34pm |
re: #208 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Lol I love it when conservatives point and cry about so-called “social experiments”.
What do they think their antigay policies, males-first/males-only policies and Jim Crow policies were, but “social experiments”.
Dumb states rights bigots. lol
Given the opportunity, my follow-up question to him would be “Was allowing black soldiers to serve alongside white soldiers, and women to serve alongside both, ‘Social Experiments’? And, if so, would you advocate undoing those ‘Experiments’ as well?”
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:17:09pm |
re: #199 LudwigVanQuixote
Is she a republican and well is she moral enough for the GOP?
I’m not sure.. But one thing I do know that every male in a America would hope I choked on a potato chip during a football game..
/ Honorary burial in an official Federal Dumpster for me..
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:18:12pm |
re: #211 Obdicut
You know what’s astonishing? That despite the bigotry, fear, and hatred thrown at them, that we have gay people brave and patriotic enough to sign up for the military.
Fucking heroes. Getting booed. For… serving their country. Or for what they are.
And those smug pricks on stage not lifting a finger to stop it. Go ahead and boo the gay veteran. After you’re done, I’ll tell him that not ordering him to lie about who he is is a ‘social experiment’.
The reality is they’re too focused on winning over these neanderthals to worry about how much of their humanity they’re selling away for cheap with each debate. Last week, it was letting poor people die in the gutter. This week, it was booing gay veterans. At this rate, it won’t be long before they’re advocating the return of slavery as “job creation” to thunderous applause.
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mr.fusion Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:18:22pm |
re: #209 moderatelyradicalliberal
That SOB is literally sleeping with the fishes thanks to BHO. He’s been a beast on foreign policy.
I’d also like to add an element that hasn’t been talked about that much and that’s the President’s role in the Arab Spring
I don’t want to take anything away from the individuals in the streets that are literally risking life, limb, and so much more to take on the regimes they have spent generations under……..
But I think this President has played an important role. By reaching out to the younger more moderate muslims it has completely taken off the table the narrative of these regimes that the US and the western world is completely responsible for the shit hole that so many of these countries have become under these dictators.
When you remove the US as the boogeyman and the citizens of those countries realize their lives haven’t changed, then they begin to blame those who are truly responsible……their own leaders.
Again, I don’t want to overstate the role that the US and this President have played……but the same Arab youth that were burning American flags the past decade are now the ones taking to the streets against those truly responsible for their misery: their own leaders.
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sagehen Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:20:26pm |
re: #204 LudwigVanQuixote
But their economic theories will only cause greater debt and further strangle the middle class. This is math, not opinion. The CBO agrees.
Math? That’s unbiblical.
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freetoken Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:21:34pm |
Getting back the Idolatrous Nationalism theme, what we saw tonight from the crowd and the candidates is nothing less than a group of people who are afraid of losing their identity and are desperate to find someone to tell them that they are “great”, wonderful, and lovable.
Insecurities all, they represent (1) what happens when people stop accepting that changes do indeed happen, and (2) when all people have is to fall back on their personal beliefs and prejudices.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:21:36pm |
re: #218 mr.fusion
I’d also like to add an element that hasn’t been talked about that much and that’s the President’s role in the Arab Spring
I don’t want to take anything away from the individuals in the streets that are literally risking life, limb, and so much more to take on the regimes they have spent generations under…
But I think this President has played an important role. By reaching out to the younger more moderate muslims it has completely taken off the table the narrative of these regimes that the US and the western world is completely responsible for the shit hole that so many of these countries have become under these dictators.
When you remove the US as the boogeyman and the citizens of those countries realize their lives haven’t changed, then they begin to blame those who are truly responsible…their own leaders.
Again, I don’t want to overstate the role that the US and this President have played…but the same Arab youth that were burning American flags the past decade are now the ones taking to the streets against those truly responsible for their misery: their own leaders.
And the Right’s response? “Damnit, that’s not how you give these people freedom and liberty! You kick in doors, blow shit up, and haul off dictators to be hanged! You can’t let these people throw out their leaders themselves, because they might install anti-US regimes! If Reagan were in office, we’d be over there now, spreading democracy to all these countries!”
Yeah, some haven’t evolved past that Cold War mindset.
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Gus Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:21:59pm |
@thinkprogress
GOP debate audiences CHEERS: Executions, death of uninsured. BOOS: Active duty solider in Iraq
In a nutshell.
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Gus Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:23:33pm |
re: #222 Gus 802
@thinkprogress
GOP debate audiences CHEERS: Executions, death of uninsured. BOOS: Active duty solider in IraqIn a nutshell.
Sounds like Dinnerjacket to me.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:24:05pm |
MarkHarrisNYC Mark Harris
RT by ebertchicago
Cheering an execution, then cheering letting an uninsured man die, now booing a soldier in Iraq. GOP debate audiences, you never disappoint.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:24:41pm |
re: #218 mr.fusion
Dude went to Cairo and lectured the Arab leaders about the dangers of oppression before this shit went down.
Dudes prescient.
I know there has been controversy about the promotion of democracy in recent years, and much of this controversy is connected to the war in Iraq. So let me be clear: no system of government can or should be imposed upon one nation by any other.
That does not lessen my commitment, however, to governments that reflect the will of the people. Each nation gives life to this principle in its own way, grounded in the traditions of its own people. America does not presume to know what is best for everyone, just as we would not presume to pick the outcome of a peaceful election.
But I do have an unyielding belief that all people yearn for certain things: the ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed; confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice; government that is transparent and doesn’t steal from the people; the freedom to live as you choose.
Those are not just American ideas, they are human rights, and that is why we will support them everywhere.
There is no straight line to realise this promise. But this much is clear: governments that protect these rights are ultimately more stable, successful and secure. Suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away. America respects the right of all peaceful and law-abiding voices to be heard around the world, even if we disagree with them. And we will welcome all elected, peaceful governments – provided they govern with respect for all their people.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:26:02pm |
Oaf Kreepers desert their units, commit felonies and are heroes for standing up against Obama.
Active duty servicemen serve honorably overseas and are booed because they lied about their sexual preferences to do so.
Something is wrong there.
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mr.fusion Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:26:57pm |
re: #225 wozzablog
Dude went to Cairo and lectured the Arab leaders about the dangers of oppression before this shit went down.
Or as the entire Republican Party calls it, he went on an “apology tour.”
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:28:10pm |
re: #227 mr.fusion
Or as the entire Republican Party calls it, he went on an “apology tour.”
“Sorry we didn’t use the might of our military with manifest destiny to blow all your countries to hell and impose christianity”.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:28:18pm |
saletan tweets:
Actually, Gov. Perry, if you could take Herman Cain and mate him up with Newt Gingrich, you’d be thrown in jail by Rick Santorum.
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Gus Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:28:46pm |
Incoming…
Huntsman Condemns Booing Of Gay Soldier
TPM’s Evan McMorris-Santoro is at the GOP Debate. He tweets this conversation with Jon Huntsman:
Jon Huntsman tells TPM booing of gay soldier at debate was “unfortunate.” Says DADT is “done…we all salute the same flag.”
| 231 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:28:56pm |
re: #226 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Oaf Kreepers desert their units, commit felonies and are heroes for standing up against Obama.
Active duty servicemen serve honorably overseas and are booed because they lied about their sexual preferences to do so.
Something is wrong there.
I don’t see Republicans cheering any felons.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:29:36pm |
re: #230 Gus 802
Brave after the fact, he is. Not in front of the audience.
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mr.fusion Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:29:46pm |
re: #228 wozzablog
“Sorry we didn’t use the might of our military with manifest destiny to blow all your countries to hell and impose christianity”.
Honestly, I can’t wait for the one on one debate with the GOP nominee and the President when they say he apologized for America and he calls them out on it.
God it’s going to be amazing and you know the Obama team already has an ass whooping retort worked up for that. Really all you’d have to say is: “You say I apologized, can you provide the exact quote?”
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:31:25pm |
re: #230 Gus 802
Incoming…
I’m not going to say “Good on him”. I feel like Chris Rock does upon hearing someone say “I take care of my kids!”:
“You’re supposed to!” So Huntsman gets only a small amount oif credit for that, since he mostly just did what he should do.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:32:00pm |
re: #231 Dark_Falcon
Congrats, you found your new low bar of support for the GOP.
You’ll let them be creationist, bigoted, lie directly about AGW, lie directly about economic issues, boo soldiers because of their personal lives, but thank god they haven’t cheered for any felons.
Except Ollie North does get cheers at GOP events.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:33:38pm |
re: #234 Dark_Falcon
Nope. He did it after. None of the GOP members stood up to defend that serviceman. They let him be booed and didn’t say boo about it. Why should they? The GOP party plank on gays is outright bigotry towards them anyway.
He doesn’t even get a tiny bit of credit for me. Unfortunate isn’t the word for it. It’s a direct result of positions pushed by the GOP.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:33:59pm |
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:34:24pm |
[darth vader breathing noise]
PE
RRY
yes master i know i fai
PE!
RRY!
please don’t hurt me maste
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY AND KILL THE LIBERAL RINO
yes master ah tried ah tried but he was
DESTROY AND KILL
i know i know i
DESTROY AND KILL
o please please please don’t hurt m
PE!
RRY!
yes master?
IF YOU CANNOT DESTROY AND KILL THE LIBERAL RINO, HOW WILL YOU BE ABLE TO KILL THE EEBIL SOCIALIST???
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:34:52pm |
re: #235 Obdicut
Congrats, you found your new low bar of support for the GOP.
You’ll let them be creationist, bigoted, lie directly about AGW, lie directly about economic issues, boo soldiers because of their personal lives, but thank god they haven’t cheered for any felons.
Except Ollie North does get cheers at GOP events.
G. Gordon Liddy?
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:35:40pm |
re: #230 Gus 802
Incoming…
He says this after the debate. Why didn’t he speak up when it mattered? That’s why I find the GOP so repulsive. They never stand up to the bigots when it counts. People who are subject to this bigotry see this and don’t make a distinction. Silence is consent.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:37:32pm |
Heh. I initially wrote “GOP party blank” instead of “plank”. Freudian slip.
They are stoking some deep fires of resentment with all their naked bigotry. They’re making a very easy case for why I should spend as much time as I can getting out the vote to take them out. Please note: Vote to take them out. Nothing else. Except the courts, for those of them that commit crimes while in office.
Now it’s time for sleep.
Booed a damn active servicemember. No one stood up for him. No one.
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mr.fusion Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:37:58pm |
re: #235 Obdicut
Congrats, you found your new low bar of support for the GOP.
You’ll let them be creationist, bigoted, lie directly about AGW, lie directly about economic issues, boo soldiers because of their personal lives, but thank god they haven’t cheered for any felons.
Except Ollie North does get cheers at GOP events.
And calling it “unfortunate” isn’t exactly a scathing review
Rain as I’m walking to work is “unfortunate.” My team losing on a last second field goal is “unfortunate.” My air conditioner breaking down in the dead of summer is “unfortunate.”
Booing an active service member, no matter what the reason, is disgusting, unpatriotic, dicked up, appalling, infuriating, embarrassing, etc etc etc
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:38:47pm |
re: #242 mr.fusion
And calling it “unfortunate” isn’t exactly a scathing review
Rain as I’m walking to work is “unfortunate.” My team losing on a last second field goal is “unfortunate.” My air conditioner breaking down in the dead of summer is “unfortunate.”
Booing an active service member, no matter what the reason, is disgusting, unpatriotic, dicked up, appalling, infuriating, embarrassing, etc etc etc
Fuckin’ A.
| 244 |
Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:39:13pm |
Damn it. I don’t want to get involved in politics. I want to take my wife out and make children’s toys and write and have a happy life. But these fuckers are forcing me into it. They’re just too comic-book evil at this point. They should just cut to the chase and nominate Cobra Commander as their presidential pick.
| 245 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:40:05pm |
re: #231 Dark_Falcon
I don’t see Republicans cheering any felons.
GOP Debate Sponsored by Oath Keepers Militia and John Birch Society
| 246 |
Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:40:25pm |
re: #244 Obdicut
Damn it. I don’t want to get involved in politics. I want to take my wife out and make children’s toys and write and have a happy life. But these fuckers are forcing me into it. They’re just too comic-book evil at this point. They should just cut to the chase and nominate Cobra Commander as their presidential pick.
Cobra Commander/Destro ‘12: Change You Can Believe In…OR ELSE!
| 248 |
bratwurst Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:41:45pm |
I wonder what “business-lead” training course Newt Gingrich would have me assigned to in return for the less than $200 per week I am receiving as an unemployed language teacher.
| 249 |
Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:41:50pm |
re: #244 Obdicut
Damn it. I don’t want to get involved in politics. I want to take my wife out and make children’s toys and write and have a happy life. But these fuckers are forcing me into it. They’re just too comic-book evil at this point. They should just cut to the chase and nominate Cobra Commander as their presidential pick.
| 250 |
Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:42:20pm |
| 251 |
jaunte Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:43:34pm |
fivethirtyeight Nate Silver
Quite a lot of movement on Intrade. Romney up to 40% chance of winning nomination, Perry down to 30%. [Link: intrade.com…]
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:43:50pm |
re: #249 wozzablog
Grrrr. Meant that to be a different one, but that one kinda works.
| 253 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:44:18pm |
re: #246 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Cobra Commander/Destro ‘12: Change You Can Believe In…OR ELSE!
I’m just picking them because of the Baroness
| 254 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:46:14pm |
I’m beginning to think the Fallout DLCs are trying to say something to me:
Dead Money
Christine, scarred by her hunt for Elijah and unable to let him go, perished in the Sierra Madre Casino. She never completed her mission, nor did she stop to consider what had driven her to accept the mission in the first place. Obsession is another form of greed, a lesson that Christine never learned.
You’ve heard of the Sierra Madre Casino. We all have, the legend, the curses. Some foolishness about it lying in the middle of a City of Dead. A city of ghosts. Buried beneath a blood-red cloud… a bright, shining monument luring treasure hunters to their doom. An illusion that you can begin again, change your fortunes. Finding it, though, that’s not the hard part. It’s letting go.
Old World Blues:
Doctor Mobius: There is an expression in the Wasteland: “Old World Blues.”
Doctor Klein: It refers to those so obsessed with the past they can’t see the present, much less the future, for what it is.
Doctor Dala: They stare into the what-was, eyes like pilot lights, guttering and spent, as the realities of their world continue on around them.
Doctor O: Science is a long, steady progression into the future. What may seem a sudden event often isn’t felt for years, even centuries, to come.
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:46:23pm |
re: #253 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I’m just picking them because of the Baroness
She hasn’t entered the race yet, but seeing how Perry’s dropping the ball I think it’s about time for her to ride in on a golden-antlered caribou.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:48:57pm |
re: #254 ProLifeLiberal
I’m beginning to think the Fallout DLCs are trying to say something to me:
Dead Money
Old World Blues:
The first example says to me that you didn’t make an effort to save Christine. Get your ass back there and do it right!
//
| 258 |
kwb2003 Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:50:57pm |
Wow. Terrible debate. Terrible candidates. Perry absolutely tanked. Makes GWB look like frickin Einstein.
| 259 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:53:46pm |
And now, the national rebuttal to the GOP debate
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:56:24pm |
re: #257 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I’ve watched breakthroughs (my poor 3 year old Vista Laptop would curl up and die if I tried to put New Vegas on it), and remember some of the various ending pieces.
I’m beginning to realize that, politically, I’m far more brutal than just about anybody I’ve met my age, except for the one Geography Major numbnuts I heard today that called Obama the Antichrist.
| 261 |
Dancing along the light of day Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:56:50pm |
re: #244 Obdicut
The world needs you, and clearly you feel a calling.
Just don’t let THEM get you down.
Keep your perspective.
Thank you for your service!
| 262 |
laZardo Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:57:23pm |
re: #260 ProLifeLiberal
I’ve watched breakthroughs (my poor 3 year old Vista Laptop would curl up and die if I tried to put New Vegas on it), and remember some of the various ending pieces.
I’m beginning to realize that, politically, I’m far more brutal than just about anybody I’ve met my age, except for the one Geography Major numbnuts I heard today that called Obama the Antichrist.
You haven’t gotten me real angry about something political. ;) Not even regarding Libya.
| 263 |
Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 8:58:18pm |
re: #260 ProLifeLiberal
I’ve watched breakthroughs (my poor 3 year old Vista Laptop would curl up and die if I tried to put New Vegas on it), and remember some of the various ending pieces.
I’m beginning to realize that, politically, I’m far more brutal than just about anybody I’ve met my age, except for the one Geography Major numbnuts I heard today that called Obama the Antichrist.
Yeah, it’s funny that as cynical as I’ve become, I still can’t bring myself to be evil in video games. No matter how much I may hate it or myself for doing it, I always work to get the best “good” endings possible.
| 264 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 22, 2011 9:02:25pm |
re: #263 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
In terms of political rhetoric, when not on LGF, I tend to be beyond brutal. Joshua Graham brutal. I’ve more than once questioned someone’s faith because of a political position (most likely on the poor, but also on issues of tolerance).
I also can not bring my self to being evil in Video Games.
| 265 |
laZardo Thu, Sep 22, 2011 9:02:40pm |
re: #263 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yeah, it’s funny that as cynical as I’ve become, I still can’t bring myself to be evil in video games. No matter how much I may hate it or myself for doing it, I always work to get the best “good” endings possible.
In Red Dead Redemption, before the “first” ending I try to be as “good” as possible. Given the events that happen afterward, then I get “evil.”
[trying not to spoil]
| 266 |
Targetpractice Thu, Sep 22, 2011 9:11:33pm |
re: #264 ProLifeLiberal
In terms of political rhetoric, when not on LGF, I tend to be beyond brutal. Joshua Graham brutal. I’ve more than once questioned someone’s faith because of a political position (most likely on the poor, but also on issues of tolerance).
I also can not bring my self to being evil in Video Games.
More power to ya. I’ve grown rather alarmed at the general malaise that has settled over people where politics are concerned, except when it’s time to gripe about how “bad” things are and how nobody’s doing anything to fix it.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Sep 23, 2011 1:54:05am |
re: #38 JasonA
Who the hell still uses a calculator and a checkbook? Who still fills out job application forms?
I personally know people who do.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Sep 23, 2011 2:04:38am |
re: #87 HoosierHoops
Johnson is pretty funny.. If he doesn’t get elected I could see him doing a half hour sitcom on the comedy channel
He recycles his lines too often. If I have to hear that “I started a one-man handyman business in Albuquerque” opening again, I am going to punch the wall.
| 269 |
(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Sep 23, 2011 2:57:03am |
re: #188 jaunte
Oh, they’re human.
But they don’t like that they have to share that trait with people they hate.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Sep 23, 2011 3:53:39am |
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