If Your Website’s Full of Assholes, It’s Your Fault

How to not let loons dominate

This is an excellent post by Anil Dash, on what site owners need to do if they don’t want to end up with a website full of assholes.

He’s actually enumerating many of the principles that have helped LGF become a place for valuable discussion. I used to believe in a laissez faire approach to comments (although outright racial slurs were never allowed or welcomed); for years I believed the best way to prevent offensive behavior was to trust the community to police itself.

I still believe this to some extent; a good online community does police itself, but the key is that self-policing fails if the truly obsessed and deranged anonymous haters are not kept out. The reason is simple: the Internet troll personality is more compulsive and more persistent than normal personalities, and who wants to have a “discussion” with people who spew racial slurs and post all-caps rants by the hundreds?

Implementing some of these measures is not easy, and not without cost — both monetary and personal — but if you don’t, I’ve learned the hard way that the crazies will inevitably take over and drive away decent people with important things to say.

You should have real humans dedicated to monitoring and responding to your community. One of the easiest ways to ensure valuable contributions on your site is to make people responsible by having dedicated, engaged, involved community moderators who have the power to delete comments and ban users (in the worst case) but also to answer questions and guide conversations for people who are unsure of appropriate behavior (in the best cases). Sites that do this, like MetaFilter and Stack Exchange sites (disclosure, I’m a proud board member of Stack Exchange) get good results. Those that don’t, don’t. If you can’t afford to invest the time or money in grooming and rewarding good community moderators? Then maybe don’t have comments. And keep in mind: You need lots of these moderators. The sites with the best communities have a really low ratio of community members to moderators.

You should have community policies about what is and isn’t acceptable behavior. Your community policy should be short, written in plain language, easily accessible, and phrased in flexible terms so people aren’t trying to nitpick the details of the rules when they break them. And then back them up with significant consequences when people break them: Either temporary or permanent bans on participation.

Your site should have accountable identities. No, people don’t have to use their real names, or log in with Google or Facebook or Twitter unless you want them to. But truly anonymous commenting often makes it really easy to have a pile of shit on your website, especially if you don’t have dedicated community moderators. When do newspapers publish anonymous sources? When the journalists know the actual identity and credibility of the person, and decide it is a public good to protect their identity. You may wish to follow the same principles, or you can embrace one of my favorite methods of identity: Persistent pseudonyms. Let users pick a handle that is attached to all of their contributions in a consistent way where other people can see what they’ve done on the site. Don’t make reputation a number or a score, make it an actual representation of the person’s behavior. And of course, if appropriate, don’t be afraid to attach people’s real names to their comments and contributions. But you’ll find “real” identities are no cure for assholes showing up in your comments if you aren’t following the rest of the principles described here.

You should have the technology to easily identify and stop bad behaviors. If you have a community that’s of decent size, it can be hard for even a sufficient number of moderators to read every single conversation thread. So a way for people to flag behavior that violates guidelines, and a simple set of tools for allowing moderators to respond quickly and appropriately, are a must-have so that people don’t get overwhelmed.

You should make a budget that supports having a good community, or you should find another line of work. Every single person who’s going to object to these ideas is going to talk about how they can’t afford to hire a community manager, or how it’s so expensive to develop good tools for managing comments. Okay, then save money by turning off your web server. Or enjoy your city where you presumably don’t want to pay for police because they’re so expensive.

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1 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:19:06pm

See also Zeynep Tufekci @ Slate: "Small Dictators, Big Bots –
Yahoo didn't mean to censor emails about Wall Street protests. The truth is much more insidious.
"

tl;dr: The tools are there. But you have to be willing to engage and use them. There is no sensible auto-pilot technical solution to deal with what are essentially social problems.

2 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:19:10pm

shit attracts flies....my profoundness exposed again

3 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:19:53pm

Recommended reading: The No Asshole Rule by Robert I. Sutton.

This is oriented toward the rising plague of workplace assholes but it provides many helpful definitions, descriptions, and suggestions for identifying and eradicating the species in any context.

4 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:21:26pm

re: #1 000G

Case in point: Yahoo comments are also often full of rank shit.

5 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:22:46pm

My ex-friend Rick the videographer was fond of saying that assholes were the master race but, as an asshole himself, he could naturally be expected to make that claim.

6 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:23:40pm

It's simple to me in my years of observing blogs and internet forums. People will say crap on those that they wouldn't dare say in real life. A lot of keyboard warriors and Internet tough guys who wouldn't dream to say the shit they say behind a keyboard face to face with someone. Yahoo in my opinion has some of the nastiest bigots you'll ever see perhaps because getting a Yahoo account is so easy. It's my understanding AOL is the same way.

7 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:26:46pm

Breitbart doesn't quite seem to understand the irony of his threat to go back through the old "right wing" LGF threads to find hateful and over the top comments. Banning that language was the first step towards lgf no longer being a "right wing" blog.

8 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:27:10pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

It's my understanding AOL is the same way.

AOL actually institutionalized derp on the internet. It's been September for a long, long time now.

9 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:33:00pm

re: #2 albusteve

shit attracts flies...my profoundness exposed again

Food sources attract flies. They see shit as a food source. Breitbart's followers see his site as a source as well. The metaphor still applies.

10 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:33:47pm

re: #7 Killgore Trout

I recall Charles made it clear once he began the registration process way back in the day that it was all part of a process to weed out the bigoted, racist, and vile comments, and to help the community police itself.

Yahoo and other similar entities have never bothered to monitor and police their groups, and part of the problem is the size and scope of AOL or Yahoo monitoring all those millions of users.

Breitbart would rather we all ignore that his site has these kinds of tools at its disposal and opts not to use them.

11 avanti  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:34:05pm

Old ass holes never die, they just fade away to a stalker site.

12 Simply Sarah  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:35:13pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

It's simple to me in my years of observing blogs and internet forums. People will say crap on those that they wouldn't dare say in real life. A lot of keyboard warriors and Internet tough guys who wouldn't dream to say the shit they say behind a keyboard face to face with someone. Yahoo in my opinion has some of the nastiest bigots you'll ever see perhaps because getting a Yahoo account is so easy. It's my understanding AOL is the same way.

It's quick, it's easy, it's (If you want it to be) basically anonymous, it's effectively unmoderated, it's high traffic for all sorts of users, and there aren't really any repercussions for being an asshole or worse. Basically the worst possible combination.

13 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:36:54pm
I used to believe in a laissez faire approach to comments (although outright racial slurs were never allowed or welcomed)

I remember those years well, Charles. Anil has been an acquaintance of mine, from his before-Six-Apart years. He knows what he's talking about; of course, so do you.

You should make a budget that supports having a good community, or you should find another line of work.

Anybody know the deep pockets behind Breitbart's Online Empire of Bigots? Somebody ought to let them know..

14 gummitch  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:38:21pm

Breitbart doesn't ask why his website attracts so many racists? why so many assholes?

It's one thing to remove nastiness from your comments, and another to discourage them in the first place. He's clearly uninterested in either.

15 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:38:28pm

re: #9 darthstar

Food sources attract flies. They see shit as a food source. Breitbart's followers see his site as a source as well. The metaphor still applies.

I think opportunist demagogue-lites like Breitbart see his followers as the source. They're the shit, he, Palin, Perry, etc., are the flies.

16 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:39:28pm

I just realized I don't even know Andrew Breitbart. And for that I am truly grateful, since he appears to be a rather offensive creature. So, as with the Pamela Geller feud, I'm going to bow out and leave this one to the experts. Enjoy.

17 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:41:26pm

re: #10 lawhawk

Breitbart would rather we all ignore that his site has these kinds of tools at its disposal and opts not to use them.

Wait for it -- Breitbart will point and cry that Charles is "the racist" for even pointing out the unhooded vigilantes running around breitbart.com in the first place.

TBF, I'm surprised the idea has not gone viral, yet.

18 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:42:38pm

re: #16 darthstar

I just realized I don't even know Andrew Breitbart. And for that I am truly grateful, since he appears to be a rather offensive creature. So, as with the Pamela Geller feud, I'm going to bow out and leave this one to the experts. Enjoy.

Professional Bigots.

19 RabbitRunner  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:44:18pm

Actuallym the unmoderated sites are the most fun
Around here, after comment #100 it seems most threads devolve into tweets about the poster's life or day or some in thing issue that is irrelevant to an outsider

20 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:45:43pm

re: #19 RabbitRunner

Actuallym the unmoderated sites are the most fun
Around here, after comment #100 it seems most threads devolve into tweets about the poster's life or day or some in thing issue that is irrelevant to an outsider

Well, if you enjoy slogging through slime and filth, sure.

21 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:46:25pm

re: #19 RabbitRunner

Cool story bro.

22 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:47:00pm

The blogging example of Regulated versus Unregulated businesses.

Keep this in mind when they talk about deregulating businesses.

23 makeitstop  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:47:08pm

Speaking of assholes - I just received a FW:FW:FW: etc. email from my eldest sister called 'The Grey Haired Brigade' - heavy on the 'Socialism and Evil' rhetoric, with a dash of 'We The People' thrown in.

I replied to all, telling them to leave me out of their little party. Unfortunately, they never seem to leave me of the FW list for long and I need to remind them to leave me the hell alone every so often.

/Just made a mediocre Monday even worse

24 Simply Sarah  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:47:51pm

re: #19 RabbitRunner

Actuallym the unmoderated sites are the most fun
Around here, after comment #100 it seems most threads devolve into tweets about the poster's life or day or some in thing issue that is irrelevant to an outsider

As opposed to unmoderated sites, where threads tend to devolve into a clusterfuck of nonsense and offensive statements after around the 5th post.

25 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:48:53pm

re: #23 makeitstop

Hey man, my friends are playing an apartment party in Chelsea tonight-- they're this band called Potion. The party is at seven. Care to come?

26 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:49:35pm

New official photo of Vladimir Putin and Dmitry Medvedev has been released:

Image: tandem.jpg

27 engineer cat  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:49:52pm

my hovercraft is full of assholes

28 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:49:59pm

re: #19 RabbitRunner

Actuallym the unmoderated sites are the most fun
Around here, after comment #100 it seems most threads devolve into tweets about the poster's life or day or some in thing issue that is irrelevant to an outsider

Sometimes we start well before 100...like on Breitbart and Geller threads...one can only think about them for so long before getting distracted by pictures of our dogs at the beach!

29 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:50:27pm

re: #28 darthstar

Son, that's a bear.

30 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:51:32pm

re: #27 engineer dog

my hovercraft is full of assholes

methane powered!

31 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:53:50pm

re: #29 Obdicut

Son, that's a bear.

That pic's about 8 months old...from January, right after we bought our house. He's lost about 10lbs since then (from our daily runs and the fact that we go to the beach about three times a week now). I got some great pics taken of him by the pro photographer for the HMB marathon on Sunday...he's supposed to email them to me soon. Full aerial catches.

32 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:54:26pm

re: #19 RabbitRunner

Odd that you've got view. Comments generally meander from their original point pretty quickly across sites - regardless of whether they're monitored or not but some websites tend to develop their own netiquette, and there are some things that LGFers have generally held to:

Keep on topic through at least the first 100 posts. Spinoffs/links/pages were developed to let the main post going off on a tangent and giving more space for posters to get other subjects discussed.

Try to keep attacks from getting personal;
Avoid the trolls - and know how to distinguish 'em from posters who merely have a different POV;
Have fun; and
Maybe learn something...

33 iossarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:56:08pm

LGF thread decision tree (increment by 1 unless otherwise instructed):

1) Shiny New Thread!
2) Is the story about the Koch brothers? If no, goto 3, if yes, goto 6.
3) Buck arrives, makes comment
4) Pile on Buck
5) Continue Buck-bashing with more or less enthusiasm (repeat 5 or goto 1)
6) Complain about Koch brothers
7) Agree that the US would be better if there were less corporate funding of elections (flip a coin, if heads, goto 3, if tails, continue)
8) Slow pace of comments to 1 every 3 minutes
9) Ask question about recipe/diy project/home economics
10) Slow pace of comments yet further
11) Goto 1.

34 makeitstop  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:56:10pm

re: #25 Obdicut

Hey man, my friends are playing an apartment party in Chelsea tonight-- they're this band called Potion. The party is at seven. Care to come?

Ahh, man. I'd love to, but I'm getting slammed with work today - my work day will probably stretch well into the night. The karaoke boys hired me to do a re-design on their site and I'm up against a hard deadline so they can approach event planners for the Fall-Winter season.

I do appreciate the invite, though. Thank you for thinking of me!

35 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:56:16pm

just officially got sworn-in in case anybody wants some libel defense fyi

36 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:56:41pm

re: #19 RabbitRunner

Actuallym the unmoderated sites are the most fun
Around here, after comment #100 it seems most threads devolve into tweets about the poster's life or day or some in thing issue that is irrelevant to an outsider

Pretty sure that if you started to offer to get barebacked you would get fucked a lot more. Pretty sure that would also stop being fun soon.

37 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:57:20pm

re: #35 SpaceJesus

just officially got sworn-in in case anybody wants some libel defense fyi

Sworn in as what?

38 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:57:40pm

re: #34 makeitstop

No problem. They'll be around until thursday-- if you're free any night (or during the day) this week, let me know, I think you'd really dig them.

Do you have my email, it's just my name here at gmail.

39 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:57:53pm

re: #35 SpaceJesus

just officially got sworn-in in case anybody wants some libel defense fyi

Congratulations. Big.Derpitude might be hiring.

40 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:58:01pm

re: #36 000G

Now that's an analogy and a half.

41 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:58:15pm

re: #37 000G

Sworn in as what?

Space Messiah

42 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:58:33pm

re: #33 iossarian

You forgot Godwin.

43 Simply Sarah  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:58:44pm

re: #32 lawhawk

And really, it's not like LGF is heavily moderated. Sure, registration has limited windows, known trolls are banned/blocked if possible, and comments that are over the line are removed, but it's not like some places where many/all comments are screened before being posted. Here, once you register you can pretty much comment however you want on whatever you want whenever you want, so long as you behave.

44 iossarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:58:51pm

re: #42 darthstar

You forgot Godwin.

That sounds like something Hitler would say.

45 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:59:20pm

re: #19 RabbitRunner

Actuallym the unmoderated sites are the most fun

Not surprised to see that coming from a guy who thinks Derbyshire is worth defending.

46 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 12:59:26pm

re: #37 000G


the state of new mexico's (and soon to be D.C.'s) newest attorney

47 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:00:01pm

re: #44 iossarian

That sounds like something Hitler would say.

Actually, he'd probably say "Sie vergaßen Godwin."

48 iossarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:00:31pm

re: #47 MrSilverDragon

Actually, he'd probably say "Sie vergaßen Godwin."

Actually, he'd probably say: *crickets*

Because he's fucking dead.

49 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:01:07pm

re: #46 SpaceJesus

Congrats. Or should I say, my condolences on having to now repay your loans (unless you've hit a big firm, a lottery, or figured out a loan forgiveness program).

50 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:01:27pm

I've got a new avatar for the next month or so...

51 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:01:42pm

re: #35 SpaceJesus

just officially got sworn-in in case anybody wants some libel defense fyi

Congratulations!

52 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:01:50pm

re: #46 SpaceJesus

the state of new mexico's (and soon to be D.C.'s) newest attorney

Maybe some day when you get accredited in NY.

Congrats anyhow.

53 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:02:27pm

How awesome has today become? This awesome:

54 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:02:45pm

re: #46 SpaceJesus

the state of new mexico's (and soon to be D.C.'s) newest attorney

SpaceJesus, esq.

That sounds pretty good.

55 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:03:25pm

re: #54 darthstar

Please. It's SpaceJesus, ESQ!

56 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:04:08pm

re: #55 000G

Please. It's SpaceJesus, ESQ!

SpaceJesus has nude pictures of Demi Moore?

57 Simply Sarah  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:04:59pm

re: #35 SpaceJesus

just officially got sworn-in in case anybody wants some libel defense fyi

Congratulations! I only intend to make nasty, but not false, comments about public figures, but I'll pass your card along if anyone I meet needs one!

58 mikec6666  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:06:45pm

re: #14 gummitch

The dude is all about money and page views.

"You are what you eat" == "Your site is your comments."

59 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:07:46pm

re: #49 lawhawk

i had scholarship for first year, but still owe quite a bit. unm was super cheap after i got in-state tuition 2nd year. oh well.

60 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:10:04pm

The intertubes is full of assholes and I'm here to prove it.
Afternoon Honcos.

61 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:11:25pm

re: #60 Cannadian Club Akbar

The intertubes is full of assholes and I'm here to prove it.
Afternoon Honcos.

Yep, I'm living proof.

62 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:12:47pm

re: #59 SpaceJesus

Lucky you. My alma mater used to be real cheap comparatively speaking for the Northeast. Now - it's still cheap, but at more than 2x the price from when I went (no in-state discount).

63 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:13:14pm
64 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:14:32pm

re: #59 SpaceJesus

i had scholarship for first year, but still owe quite a bit. unm was super cheap after i got in-state tuition 2nd year. oh well.

The Dream Act covers Space Aliens too?!?

65 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:15:25pm

re: #62 lawhawk

Lucky you. My alma mater used to be real cheap comparatively speaking for the Northeast. Now - it's still cheap, but at more than 2x the price from when I went (no in-state discount).

The bright side of my 30% disability from the VA. My kids free tuition to any UC system school for a 4 year degree.

66 efuseakay  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:15:41pm

Breitbart is Dark Helmet on Spaceball One. Not only is he surrounded by Assholes, he's their leader.

67 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:16:04pm

BBL

68 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:18:38pm

"Rick Perry only listens to two people...Jesus Christ and Rachel Maddow!"
--Rick Perry
[Link: politicalwire.com...]

69 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:18:42pm

re: #19 RabbitRunner

Actuallym the unmoderated sites are the most fun
Around here, after comment #100 it seems most threads devolve into tweets about the poster's life or day or some in thing issue that is irrelevant to an outsider

are we over 100 yet?

I can't talk about some awesome stuff yet then............. (back to the chans I go.........)

70 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:20:48pm

re: #69 wozzablog

are we over 100 yet?

I can't talk about some awesome stuff yet then... (back to the chans I go...)

Awesomeness is available at post 53

71 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:23:05pm

re: #70 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Awesomeness is available at post 53

No dubs tho, and no trips.

72 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:25:02pm

re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

How awesome has today become? This awesome:

[Video]

The sequel to Lost?

73 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:26:16pm

re: #72 Naso Tang

The sequel to Lost?

Image: Fry_Looking_Squint.jpg

74 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:28:21pm

Bachmann Rumors are getting louder...fortunately for her, she's fallen so far in the polls that she may be out of the race before people really start pointing out the obvious about her husband.

75 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:29:13pm

re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So cool that guy got the rights bought, too. Deserved it.

76 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:31:45pm

re: #74 darthstar

Bachmann Rumors are getting louder...fortunately for her, she's fallen so far in the polls that she may be out of the race before people really start pointing out the obvious about her husband.

That he's a corpulent pseudo-religioscience fraud?

Or the "other" thing?.

77 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:32:06pm

re: #75 Obdicut

So cool that guy got the rights bought, too. Deserved it.

Word is he's finishing up the book sequel now. Should be out in the next few months.

78 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:36:02pm

I was fortunate enough to find a non-moderated community that didn't devolve into a pile of shit for many years. Oh, we had a couple of trolls but few engaged them and the trolls were on most everybody's ignore list. It was a great place to hang.

Unfortunately, it turned out that a couple of people there were the glue that held the place together. One of them, a lesbian Republican, died suddenly of a heart attack. It was a measure of how important the place had been to me in that telling the board about her death was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do. I still go once a year into the memorial thread I started and leave virtual roses.

The board started showing signs of strain after that. My deceased friend had set a standard of graciousness and courtesy that others consciously or unconsciously adhered to. Those standards started to slip and the board started to be a less pleasant place to visit.

Then came the election of 2008 and the place collapsed. The 'conservatives' turned really nasty, and many of the 'liberals' responded in kind. A few became outright Tea Partiers and they didn't even pretend to be anything but hateful.

People, including me, fled like refugees from a battlefield.

I go back occasionally, but the place is rather desolate now. Not even a shadow of its former self.

An object lesson, in my opinion, of how boards should have a standard of behaviour and monitored to maintain those standards.

79 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:40:16pm

I'm kinda sick of American politics. I'm gonna start following Canadian politics. Here's why.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

80 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:47:20pm

re: #79 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm kinda sick of American politics. I'm gonna start following Canadian politics. Here's why.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Where else would you have put the House of Commons identifier

on her forehead!?!?!
/

81 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:47:46pm

re: #76 wozzablog

That he's a corpulent pseudo-religioscience fraud?

Hm well, that much is an established fact.

82 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:48:24pm

from the comments

Dan Stewart
587 Fans
5 minutes ago (4:39 PM)
Why do women show cleavage in the first place???

Dan,, if you have to ask ,,,,,,,

83 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:49:39pm

re: #82 sattv4u2

from the comments

Dan Stewart
587 Fans
5 minutes ago (4:39 PM)
Why do women show cleavage in the first place???

Dan,, if you have to ask ,,,

Dan should ask his wifey for his testicles back.

84 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:50:38pm

re: #80 sattv4u2

Where else would you have put the House of Commons identifier

on her forehead!?!?!
/

The cleavage still goes above that for a bit though...or should. They gave her a monoboob.

85 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:50:39pm

re: #82 sattv4u2

from the comments

Dan Stewart
587 Fans
5 minutes ago (4:39 PM)
Why do women show cleavage in the first place???

Dan,, if you have to ask ,,,

Dr Marcus Bachmann will see him now.

86 recusancy  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:51:42pm

Anil's always a good read. I highly recommend adding him to your reader of choice.

87 RabbitRunner  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:52:36pm

Well, finally one of my posts gets some replies here.

88 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:53:08pm

re: #84 darthstar

The cleavage still goes above that for a bit though...or should. They gave her a monoboob.

Just enough for a one armed man!

(or woman)

((NTTAWWT))

89 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:53:51pm

re: #87 RabbitRunner

Well, finally one of my posts gets some replies here.

Which one

DAMMIT ,, theres another one

you tricked me

90 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:53:51pm

re: #87 RabbitRunner

I had toast for breakfast, or is that 14 replies too soon?

91 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:53:51pm

re: #87 RabbitRunner

Well, finally one of my posts gets some replies here.

Sorry...we've moved on to cleavage...you'll have to ask for attention later.

92 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:54:48pm

re: #91 darthstar

Sorry...we've moved on to cleavage...you'll have to ask for attention later.

Well, Assholes is the topic, we've only strayed a couple of feet biologically.

93 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:55:10pm

re: #91 darthstar

Sorry...we've moved on to cleavage...you'll have to ask for attention later.

Don't be a boob!

94 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:55:24pm

re: #92 wozzablog

Well, Assholes is the topic, we've only strayed a couple of feet biologically.

But if your blog is full of boobs, you're doing it right!

95 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:55:33pm
96 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:55:54pm

re: #93 sattv4u2

Don't be a boob!

I'm a mammary for all seasons.

97 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:56:31pm

re: #96 darthstar

I'm a mammary for all seasons.

You nippled that one in the bud

98 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:56:42pm

re: #94 darthstar

But if your blog is full of boobs, you're doing it right!

my god! it's full of boobs. should have sent a poet.

99 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:57:05pm

re: #97 sattv4u2

You nippled that one in the bud

Cleave it alone.

100 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:57:23pm

re: #99 wozzablog

Cleave it alone.

Tits okay !

101 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:57:42pm

re: #100 sattv4u2

Tits okay !

Keep me abreast of developments.

102 RabbitRunner  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:57:48pm

re: #45 wrenchwench

Yes I do like Derb though that is not a blanket endorsement of him.
Derb is reasonable and doesn't use the same worn out talk radio level cliches that most right wingers use. He is a rationalist and has nothing to do with all the ignorant fakes and fanatics who use Jesus & scriptures as sock puppets. He caught a lot of heat for attacking crapfest movies like "Expelled"!

Finally, if you email him he will personally answer you in an intelligent, if a bit high handed, way.
I wish more pundits could be like him.

103 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:58:01pm

re: #100 sattv4u2

Tits okay !

At least we're staying in the same areola.

104 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:58:40pm

re: #101 wozzablog

Keep me abreast of developments.

I can support that, my bra!

105 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:58:59pm

re: #103 darthstar

At least we're staying in the same areola.

a bra-vura pun thread.

106 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:59:05pm

Oh hell, I poke my head in just in time for the thread to go tits up and dissolve into puns.

Exit, stage left.

107 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:59:11pm

re: #105 wozzablog

a bra-vura pun thread.

our cups runneth over.

108 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:59:21pm

re: #102 RabbitRunner

We're talking about the complete racist and sexist John Derbyshire, right, who wants women's suffrage repealed and the Civil Rights Act repealed?

He's a 'rationalist'?

109 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:59:27pm

re: #106 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Oh hell, I poke my head in just in time for the thread to go tits up and dissolve into puns.

Exit, stage left.

The rabbit died.

110 iossarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:59:30pm

re: #106 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Oh hell, I poke my head in

Fnarr fnarr.

111 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 1:59:45pm

Twat was that? I c*nt hear you. I got an ear infucktion while screwba diving. Perhaps I should go to the dicktor and get some peniscillin.

112 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:00:22pm

re: #107 darthstar

our cups runneth over.

R cups?. MY GOD MAN!!!!!!!!

113 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:00:26pm

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Man, how long have you been saving that one up?

114 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:00:50pm

re: #113 Obdicut

Man, how long have you been saving that one up?

Years.

115 iossarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:01:14pm

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Twat was that? I c*nt hear you. I got an ear infucktion while screwba diving. Perhaps I should go to the dicktor and get some peniscillin.

Someone needs to get out more.

116 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:01:22pm

re: #102 RabbitRunner

Derb
...
I wish more pundits could be like him.

Huh. Well, I don't.

117 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:02:07pm

re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

How awesome has today become? This awesome:

[Video]

I loved the book. The movie is in good hands (Don Coscarelli, director of the Phantasm series, among other things), but a full adaptation of the book would result in a 9-hour movie.

118 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:02:38pm

re: #79 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm kinda sick of American politics. I'm gonna start following Canadian politics. Here's why.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Up until the late 60s, the NYT editorial standard required that non-news photographs, such as the many advertisements in the weekend Fashion section, would not show belly-buttons. They were religiously airbrushed out of lingerie and swimsuit shots. Someone challenged the practice, and no one could remember why they did it, so they stopped.

119 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:02:43pm

re: #114 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Years.

Must be

I remember that from my (young) teens , and that was 40+ years ago!!

120 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:03:06pm

re: #117 negativ

I loved the book. The movie is in good hands (Don Coscarelli, director of the Phantasm series, among other things), but a full adaptation of the book would result in a 9-hour movie.

I was thinking 2 movies, but looks like they went with one.

121 dragonfire1981  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:03:06pm

I've learned that in any community, real or virtual, you have to earn respect and pay your dues.

On another site I frequent I started off as a simply a normal commenter. I made a point of not posting stupid/hateful/derogatory stuff and contributing to the discussion. Eventually I became a moderator and now I'm a senior moderator. I appreciate the experience of having earned that.

It's the same with LGF. I finally caught a registration window, then posted a few comments here and there and then when the pages came in I started posting those. I'm still a relative newbie but I like to think I've earned some respect as a poster who at least treats everyone with respect.

I treat my online conversations on sites like LGF the same way I view a talk with a friend.

I am VERY thankful for a site like LGF. It's one of the few places online I've found that has good, interesting, sane discussion about politics and also features both left and right leaning members.

If you want to see example of how to do comments wrong, go to youtube. It so bad over there it makes Yahoo look classy.

122 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:04:23pm

If John Derybshire is a rationalist, the dude is terrible at it.

He's the Ethelred the Unready of rationalism.

123 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:04:53pm

re: #119 sattv4u2

Must be

I remember that from my (young) teens , and that was 40+ years ago!!

I usually deliver it with a Scottish accent when I use it live.

124 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:05:43pm

re: #121 dragonfire1981

I am VERY thankful for a site like LGF. It's one of the few places online I've found that has good, interesting, sane discussion about politics and also features both left and right leaning members.

You have caught some of us in a very silly mood indeed tonight.

125 makeitstop  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:06:20pm

re: #108 Obdicut

We're talking about the complete racist and sexist John Derbyshire, right, who wants women's suffrage repealed and the Civil Rights Act repealed?

He's a 'rationalist'?

Don't forget his creepy fascination with 'Lolita.'

126 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:06:27pm

re: #108 Obdicut

We're talking about the complete racist and sexist John Derbyshire, right, who wants women's suffrage repealed and the Civil Rights Act repealed?

He's a 'rationalist'?

Maybe he misspelled 'racialist'.

127 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:08:27pm

Alrighty, I've done my damage to the interwebz. bbiab.

128 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:08:28pm

re: #121 dragonfire1981

Comments at AOL are pretty mind deadeningly stupid too, mind you, most of the professionally driven copy is mind numbingly idiotic over there also.

Write peanuts get monkeys.

129 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:10:59pm

Geek note: Ethelred the Unready was not actually that bad a king, may in fact have been a very good king. His name better translates to Ethelred the Ill-Advised.

So I'll change that to John Derbyshire is the Betamax of rationalism.

130 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:12:08pm

Okay. I'm going to write another 3000 words. You can't stop me.

131 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:13:25pm

re: #129 Obdicut

Eric the Unready works for me.

132 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:14:19pm

re: #130 Obdicut

Okay. I'm going to write another 3000 words. You can't stop me.

Back away from the keyboard! I have duct tape and I know how to use it!

/

133 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:14:19pm

re: #130 Obdicut

Okay. I'm going to write another 3000 words. You can't stop me.

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

134 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:14:55pm

re: #121 dragonfire1981

Before LGF I also spent time at a site that was and is decent, but the moderation went too far and eventually I quit and came to a more real world here.

By too far, I mean the debate principle that there are no assholes and anything said by anyone must always be considered an argument to be countered, but never by saying the obvious.

135 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:16:01pm

re: #131 Sergey Romanov

Wreckless Eric

136 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:17:16pm

re: #134 Naso Tang

By too far, I mean the debate principle that there are no assholes and anything said by anyone must always be considered an argument to be countered, but never by saying the obvious.

Respectfully, your premise is flawed by haddock.

137 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:17:58pm

re: #136 wozzablog

Respectfully, your premise is flawed by haddock.

I thought that was herring.

138 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:19:08pm

re: #137 Naso Tang

I thought that was herring.

I hadn't noticed, I'm herring impaired.

139 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:19:10pm

re: #121 dragonfire1981

The mix of technical solutions like word filters. and ip blocking is great, as it unburdens the really critical part-The human monitors. Bless ya whoever you are around here. Because you monitor Lizards make all the difference as to how much spare time I want to spend at LGF.

140 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:21:16pm

re: #139 Rightwingconspirator

The mix of technical solutions like word filters. and ip blocking is great, as it unburdens the really critical part-The human monitors. Bless ya whoever you are around here. Because you monitor Lizards make all the difference as to how much spare time I want to spend at LGF.

Image: monitoring_thread.jpg

141 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:22:13pm

re: #135 wozzablog

142 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:26:56pm

*will shut up now*

Laters all.

143 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:26:57pm

re: #139 Rightwingconspirator

The mix of technical solutions like word filters. and ip blocking is great, as it unburdens the really critical part-The human monitors. Bless ya whoever you are around here. Because you monitor Lizards make all the difference as to how much spare time I want to spend at LGF.

Image: monitorlizards128517275106718750.jpg

144 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:27:30pm

re: #140 wozzablog

Image: monitoring_thread.jpg

LOL bandwidth overload lockout. Lizardlanche.

145 William of Orange  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:32:16pm

So sorry....

The Dutch music world lost a giant today. Harry Muskee, lead singer of blues band Cuby & the Blizzards died after a long sickness today at the age of 70. One of his better known pieces was "Windows of my eyes" of which below is posted a bit more modern version. The pictures accompanying the music are pictures of the late 19th, early 20th century of the harsh existence in the peat colonies of the north eastern part of the Netherlands. Back then it was a very poor existence, and it's where Harry was born. Needless to say there was inspiration enough.

Cube & The Blizzards - Windows 0f my eyes.

Here's another great track.

Cuby Blizzards - Appleknockers flophouse.

He will be sadly missed.

146 b_sharp  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:32:26pm

Just stopping by to tell you I'm taking off and will be back later with the bucket.

147 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:37:29pm

re: #146 b_sharp

Mr. Creosote!

148 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:38:23pm

And now for some afternoon rocking

149 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:39:13pm

Did Gus leave for good?

150 makeitstop  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:41:09pm

re: #149 Sergey Romanov

Did Gus leave for good?

He was here yesterday. Haven't seen him today.

151 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:41:37pm
152 lostlakehiker  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:41:39pm
Your community policy should be short, written in plain language, easily accessible, and phrased in flexible terms so people aren’t trying to nitpick the details of the rules when they break them. And then back them up with significant consequences when people break them: Either temporary or permanent bans on participation.

That's not a bad idea as a template for the legal code. Laws should be like that too. Now of course the whole big system is more complicated than blogs, and we can't have the death penalty for any significant infraction of the laws. But the point remains: laws should be easy to understand, it should be easy to know what the law says, fairly easy to guess a rough approximation to what the law would be if you can't access the text before you have to make a decision, and rather hard to get out of paying the price if you do break the law.

How is anybody supposed to conform their conduct to a law that runs to thousands or tens of thousands of pages? The compliance costs, even if it were within mortal power to comprehend and then comply, become astronomical. And then there's enforcement problems. How do you persuade a jury that the law has been violated? Not one of the twelve will be able to read the law, end to end. And the law will not be a compendium of stand-alone provisions, each 1 page long. It will be massively and maybe even recursively self referential. At that point, by saying too much, in effect it says either nothing, or it says whatever whoever owns the judge says it says.

153 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:43:28pm

re: #150 makeitstop

He was here yesterday. Haven't seen him today.

His last comment is on 23rd, after he wrote that he has to find a new venue. Haven't seen him since.

154 lostlakehiker  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:45:01pm

re: #143 wrenchwench

Image: monitorlizards128517275106718750.jpg

That's not a knife. THiS is a knife. Knife=Monitor Lizard

155 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:45:15pm

re: #149 Sergey Romanov

Did Gus leave for good?

I missed something? Was it good or bad?

156 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:46:01pm

re: #155 Naso Tang

I missed something? Was it good?

Nope, he just decided to move on.

157 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:48:06pm

re: #156 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Nope, he just decided to move on.

Really? That's a bummer. I hope he still stops in from time to time.

158 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:54:03pm

re: #156 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Nope, he just decided to move on.

Wut? When did this happen?

159 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:54:55pm

re: #157 Killgore Trout

Really? That's a bummer. I hope he still stops in from time to time.

He was/is good about information, but I imagine we are not collectively far enough left.

160 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:55:15pm

re: #158 Charles

Wut? When did this happen?

Look through his last comments.

161 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:55:17pm

re: #157 Killgore Trout

Really? That's a bummer. I hope he still stops in from time to time.

Might just be physically moving around. Having housing issues, I think.

162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:55:34pm

I've been getting an Adobe 10 Flash error all day on my computer. Driving me nuts. Everything's up to date and I've run several anti virus thingies. Anybody got a suggestion.

It says, the movie I'm watching has stopped responding. Even when I'm just sitting here with you guys.

163 lostlakehiker  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:56:00pm

re: #125 makeitstop

Don't forget his creepy fascination with 'Lolita.'

There's a book, "Reading Lolita in Tehran". The point of that book is that reading Lolita doesn't amount to admiring Humbert. That the study of literature is the study of humanity, warts and worse, through the lens of fiction.

The most heartbreaking episode in the whole book is where Lolita is playing tennis, and she volleys, she runs, etc., but she cannot, simply cannot, even try to win. She's out there, all youth and fluid grace, and she's broken. Dang.

Nabokov's Lolita is a top-notch novel.

C.S. Lewis' Screwtape Letters is, in some ways, doing the same thing. Lewis channels "nasty" and gives you the up-close skinny of it, seen from inside the mind of a demon.

Humbert surpasses the demon in evil simply because he had it in him, as the demon didn't, to be good. He had some depth.

Not saying, mind you, that the demon is real. Neither is Humbert. It's fiction, but fiction provides a good window into some aspects of how real humans behave. Sad but true.

164 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:56:09pm

re: #158 Charles

Wut? When did this happen?

In the last few days, during one of the night threads.

165 Shropshire_Slasher  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:58:35pm

re: #164 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I noticed some of his posts had some real highs and lows, hope he is ok, some days he was on top o the world, other days not so good.

166 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:00:00pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

Okay. I kept it down to 2000 and now I'm going to the party in Chelsea.

That's still 5000 words for the day. Which is probably 1/18th of the novel.

I'm going to have this thing done soon. It's a little frightening.

167 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:01:45pm

re: #160 Sergey Romanov

Mmf. Well, I don't know what that was about; looking back through his Pages, they've almost all been featured. Don't recall getting any emails either, but maybe I missed something.

168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:03:52pm

re: #167 Charles

For what it's worth? He's been having a horrible time in every concievable way. Broke and no place to be.

I hope that he lands on the postitive side soon.

169 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:09:01pm
170 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:09:33pm

re: #168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

For what it's worth? He's been having a horrible time in every concievable way. Broke and no place to be.

I hope that he lands on the postitive side soon.

I hope that his situation is both temporary and of short duration, and not just because I'll miss his input here.

171 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:11:33pm

re: #168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

For what it's worth? He's been having a horrible time in every concievable way. Broke and no place to be.

I hope that he lands on the postitive side soon.

Agreed. He seems to be having a hard time, these days.

172 SmithCommaJohn  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:12:58pm

Just FYI, you know those people who comment on Andrew Breitbart's website and Yahoo News stories, and those chicks who write love letters to murderers on death row?

Their vote counts just as much as yours. Think about that for a minute.

Actually, on second thought, don't.

173 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:14:24pm

re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've been getting an Adobe 10 Flash error all day on my computer. Driving me nuts. Everything's up to date and I've run several anti virus thingies. Anybody got a suggestion.

It says, the movie I'm watching has stopped responding. Even when I'm just sitting here with you guys.

uninstall, reinstall, delete cookies, restart, kick it. (but do NOT call support).

174 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:15:34pm

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Might just be physically moving around. Having housing issues, I think.

Yeah, seemed to be under a fair amount of stress and was having a hard time lately.

175 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:19:46pm

Gus, we heart ya.

;)

176 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:23:20pm

re: #167 Charles

Sent you a mail.

177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:24:45pm

re: #173 Naso Tang

uninstall, reinstall, delete cookies, restart, kick it. (but do NOT call support).

Odd. IE is working perfectly.

178 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:26:48pm

re: #174 Killgore Trout

Yeah, seemed to be under a fair amount of stress and was having a hard time lately.

hope he's okay....chronic unemployment is a heavy burden when the money dries up, and he's in the building trades

179 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:34:25pm
180 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:36:35pm

re: #177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Odd. IE is working perfectly.

That in itself is a sign of impending technological Armageddon.

181 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:38:28pm

re: #179 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

NRA Chief: Obama not taking our guns is a plan to take our guns

/facepalm

Tricksy.

182 makeitstop  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:38:42pm

re: #153 Sergey Romanov

His last comment is on 23rd, after he wrote that he has to find a new venue. Haven't seen him since.

I could have sworn I saw him yesterday. Sorry if I was mistaken.

183 laZardo  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:38:55pm

re: #177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Didn't update it? Also using Chrome. It's faster than Firefox though there are places where I see gibberish in place of regular characters.

184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:40:03pm

re: #180 wozzablog

That in itself is a sign of impending technological Armageddon.

I know! Right?

185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:40:55pm

Deleted Adobe. Fixed the problem.

Guess I need it back, though. Although I don't know what I do with it.

Dumb computer guy is dumb.

186 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:41:13pm

re: #179 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

NRA Chief: Obama not taking our guns is a plan to take our guns

/facepalm

Send in the funds, keep the faith alive...
Without your checks how can we survive

187 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:42:29pm

re: #179 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

NRA Chief: Obama not taking our guns is a plan to take our guns

/facepalm

Oh lord. e_e

188 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:43:32pm

re: #179 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

NRA Chief: Obama not taking our guns is a plan to take our guns

/facepalm

Oh, that's good! Now Obama should simply take their guns and that will mean he's not taking them. I mean, it's clear as a day.

189 garhighway  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:44:11pm

re: #179 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

NRA Chief: Obama not taking our guns is a plan to take our guns

/facepalm

The stupid is strong in that one.

190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:45:05pm

re: #178 albusteve

I'm a "stand there with my face into the storm" kind of guy.

Unless I lose my job. Then I become "guy on the couch for three months sad sack, pitiful excuse for a man" kind of a guy.

I could take a major illness better than losing my job.

I think that's why I feel for Gus so.

191 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:45:49pm

I've ignored the NRA for three years...during that time they have sent me 200lbs of mail begging me to pay up and continue my membership....finally a few days ago they sent me a new membership cert and stickers....just like telemarketing only using snail mail....their harassment and constant deluge of propaganda is why I rejected them to begin with...they just ignore reality

192 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:46:37pm

re: #185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Deleted Adobe. Fixed the problem.

Guess I need it back, though. Although I don't know what I do with it.

Dumb computer guy is dumb.

Download and reinstall.

193 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:47:31pm

re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm a "stand there with my face into the storm" kind of guy.

Unless I lose my job. Then I become "guy on the couch for three months sad sack, pitiful excuse for a man" kind of a guy.

I could take a major illness better than losing my job.

I think that's why I feel for Gus so.

I'm guessing he's in dire straights and gave up his net service...or he could be off fishing

194 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:47:31pm

re: #189 garhighway

The stupid is strong in that one.

No, the ones he is talking to.

195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:47:31pm

re: #192 Naso Tang

Oh, I know how to do it. My internets are working so well right now. Why do I want to?

196 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:48:48pm

re: #195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, I know how to do. My internets are working so well right now. Why do I want to?

Then wait until you get a message that something needs it and says "download here".

197 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:49:00pm

re: #193 albusteve

Losing his "nets" doesn't make sense. You don't need money, just have to find somewhere to get on.

Fishing. I like the fishing idea.

198 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:50:14pm

re: #195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, I know how to do. My internets are working so well right now. Why do I want to?

U-tube?

199 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:50:39pm

I bought a rat killing air gun today
[Link: www.remington.com...]
Surprisingly powerful. I took a couple practice shots this afternoon. Lots of fun.

200 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:51:15pm

re: #188 Sergey Romanov

Oh, that's good! Now Obama should simply take their guns and that will mean he's not taking them. I mean, it's clear as a day.

obviously an appeal to the lower range of normal IQ...I have no idea what he's thinking but there is no such thing as a gun grab...it cannot happen...fucking around with ammo and other nip at the heels tactics will have to suffice...Americans by the millions will not give up their weapons

201 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:52:13pm

re: #185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Deleted Adobe. Fixed the problem.

Guess I need it back, though. Although I don't know what I do with it.

Dumb computer guy is dumb.

I stopped updating adobe. It always causes problems.

202 garhighway  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:52:29pm

Here's a reason to like Chris Christie: he blocked a tax credit for the producers of Jersey Shore.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

203 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:52:32pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

Kill all you want. They'll make more.

204 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:53:18pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

I bought a rat killing air gun today
[Link: www.remington.com...]
Surprisingly powerful. I took a couple practice shots this afternoon. Lots of fun.

re: #199 Killgore Trout

I bought a rat killing air gun today
[Link: www.remington.com...]
Surprisingly powerful. I took a couple practice shots this afternoon. Lots of fun.

You need to upgrade

[Link: www.airgundepot.com...]

205 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:54:41pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

I bought a rat killing air gun today
[Link: www.remington.com...]
Surprisingly powerful. I took a couple practice shots this afternoon. Lots of fun.

If that is more fun than a dead target, but they breed faster than you can reload.

206 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:55:01pm

re: #204 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #199 Killgore Trout

You need to upgrade

[Link: www.airgundepot.com...]

3X less powerful

207 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:55:19pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

LOL!
I used to use a BB gun to shoot them off the telephone wires, they would drop 20 feet, bounce & keep running. Unless I got one in the eye. That was a kill. Bloodthirsty mode, off now.

208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:55:54pm

re: #205 Naso Tang

My only problem with killing rats is that I'd have to pick them up.

*shudder*

209 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:56:09pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

I bought a rat killing air gun today
[Link: www.remington.com...]
Surprisingly powerful. I took a couple practice shots this afternoon. Lots of fun.

build a hide...camo up and kill

210 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:56:37pm

re: #206 albusteve

3X less powerful

Volume...

211 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:56:56pm

Rats are the reason god created the .22 short rifle load.

212 makeitstop  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:57:21pm

re: #202 garhighway

Here's a reason to like Chris Christie: he blocked a tax credit for the producers of Jersey Shore.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Yeah, but two weeks ago he issued a statement saying he couldn't do anything about it.

Flip-flopper!
/

213 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:57:30pm

re: #211 darthstar

Rats are the reason god created the .22 short rifle load. cat

214 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:57:53pm

re: #204 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You need to upgrade

[Link: www.airgundepot.com...]

WTF? Good against backseat drivers and box cutter armed terrorists?

The H&K MP5K-PDW (personal defense weapon) firearm is a compact gun designed for use by aircraft crew members and those in vehicles.

215 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:57:54pm

re: #210 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Volume...

pellets will bounce off...bet me
that .177 was designed for varmints

216 laZardo  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:59:01pm

re: #202 garhighway

We can fix the economy by taxing the Shore crowd. It's something everyone can agree on!

/partial

217 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:59:04pm

re: #211 darthstar

Rats are the reason god created the .22 short rifle load.

rat shot
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

218 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:59:16pm

What ever happened to RedDC? might have been his nic?
Used to post late at night about his rat killings.

219 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:59:25pm

re: #213 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

True...my cat, B-Flat, brought home a field rat a few weeks ago that was about 1/4 his size. Big motherfucker.

220 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:59:43pm

re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My only problem with killing rats is that I'd have to pick them up.

*shudder*

pretend they're pie

221 Kragar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:01:11pm

re: #215 albusteve

pellets will bounce off...bet me
that .177 was designed for varmints

They used to work great for assholes in the barracks.

222 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:01:25pm

re: #215 albusteve

pellets will bounce off...bet me
that .177 was designed for varmints

I did get a snapping turtle in my pond with a BB hand gun once. Right between the eyes did it, and no, it wasn't a lucky shot...well, maybe a little.

223 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:02:43pm

re: #222 Naso Tang

I did get a snapping turtle in my pond with a BB hand gun once. Right between the eyes did it, and no, it wasn't a lucky shot...well, maybe a little.

you savage...was it tasty?

224 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:03:16pm

re: #204 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #199 Killgore Trout

You need to upgrade

[Link: www.airgundepot.com...]

Velocity (400fps) is way too low. The Remmington has 1200fps. It's a pretty serious little gun.

225 makeitstop  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:04:47pm

I don't usually read Driftglass, but I have to admit - this is pretty funny.

226 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:04:48pm

re: #62 lawhawk

yeah, the old time lawyers at the firm i clerked at and might go work at like to talk about how law school was a couple hundred bucks a semester back in their day. ridiculous.

227 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:05:20pm

re: #223 albusteve

you savage...was it tasty?

It took almost a week to float to the surface. What do you think?

228 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:05:29pm

re: #222 Naso Tang

re: #223 albusteve

you savage...was it tasty?

Turtle Soup!

229 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:06:06pm

re: #226 SpaceJesus

You might want to ask Charles to update your nic, to, SpaceJesus Esq.!
LOL & CONGRATULATIONS.
You did it!

230 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:06:12pm

I got my new Crossman pump BB gun and started shooting birds...my sister caught me and beat the snot outa me....then we had our neighborhood BB gun wars...jackets, winter caps, snorkle masks...I planted a BB in my buddies forehead, point blank, stuck there under the skin...that was the end of that

231 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:06:15pm

re: #228 sattv4u2

re: #223 albusteve

Turtle Soup!

re: #227 Naso Tang

It took almost a week to float to the surface. What do you think?

In that case,,, a door stop!

232 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:06:57pm

re: #228 sattv4u2

re: #223 albusteve

Turtle Soup!

More like turtle kimchi

233 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:07:00pm

re: #230 albusteve

I got my new Crossman pump BB gun and started shooting birds...my sister caught me and beat the snot outa me...then we had our neighborhood BB gun wars...jackets, winter caps, snorkle masks...I planted a BB in my buddies forehead, point blank, stuck there under the skin...that was the end of that

LAWN DARTS!
:)

234 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:10:11pm

re: #231 sattv4u2

re: #227 Naso Tang

In that case,,, a door stop!

Snapping turtles, and I'm sure you will appreciate this, fall apart into many pieces, kind of like they were made out of a kid's cutout book, once the soft stuff comes away.

Now, tortoises are different.

235 CuriousLurker  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:10:50pm

re: #46 SpaceJesus

the state of new mexico's (and soon to be D.C.'s) newest attorney

Woot! Congratulations, SJ. ;o)

236 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:10:52pm

re: #233 Varek Raith

LAWN DARTS!
:)

we used to tool around the lake in our parents boats and toss M-80's at each other

237 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:12:12pm

re: #236 albusteve

we used to tool around the lake in our parents boats and toss M-80's at each other

I see you had a deprived childhood as well. The things we took for granted.

238 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:12:25pm

re: #230 albusteve

I got my new Crossman pump BB gun and started shooting birds...my sister caught me and beat the snot outa me...then we had our neighborhood BB gun wars...jackets, winter caps, snorkle masks...I planted a BB in my buddies forehead, point blank, stuck there under the skin...that was the end of that

Yeah. I caught one just between my right eye and my nose once. I can still see it coming at me. On the plus side, my IQ rose 20 points instantly.

239 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:14:03pm

re: #237 darthstar

I see you had a deprived childhood as well. The things we took for granted.

if it was against the rules or common sense we pursued it with a vengeance

240 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:14:50pm

The reporting on this story sucks but it looks like the Dems caved to the Republican radicals in the House....
Congress poised to avert government shutdown

The deal will eliminate $1 billion worth of disaster aid, as well as $1 billion in offsets from an EPA loan guarantee program for green cars.

I'm not really sure what that means but I'm guessing it's not good.

241 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:17:11pm

re: #240 Killgore Trout

The reporting on this story sucks but it looks like the Dems caved to the Republican radicals in the House...
Congress poised to avert government shutdown

I'm not really sure what that means but I'm guessing it's not good.

As I read that, the FEMA funding is less than optimal, but the Dem-offending offset was dropped. Have to wait for details.

242 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:18:57pm

re: #238 Naso Tang

Yeah. I caught one just between my right eye and my nose once. I can still see it coming at me. On the plus side, my IQ rose 20 points instantly.

I remember BB's bouncing off me...don't recall ever being hit otherwise...rocks were legit too...out of ammo?...toss a grenade

243 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:20:14pm

re: #240 Killgore Trout

I'm not really sure what that means but I'm guessing it's not good.

It means the auto manufacturers will cut back on advanced production facilities and hire fewer people in the USA than they did with the program previously. As I understand it, this was a form of loan program, not grants.

They can always make up the difference by going to Mexico or China./

244 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:20:23pm

re: #242 albusteve

I remember BB's bouncing off me...don't recall ever being hit otherwise...rocks were legit too...out of ammo?...toss a grenade kid brother

ftfy

245 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:21:46pm

re: #240 Killgore Trout

The reporting on this story sucks but it looks like the Dems caved to the Republican radicals in the House...
Congress poised to avert government shutdown

I'm not really sure what that means but I'm guessing it's not good.

even the most simple tasks have become so loaded with partisan bullshit, that as far as I'm concerned, govt is dysfunctional at this point...everyday I withdraw further away from this stuff...I just don't really care anymore

246 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:21:57pm

re: #242 albusteve

I remember BB's bouncing off me...don't recall ever being hit otherwise...rocks were legit too...out of ammo?...toss a grenade

We had air guns at Picatinny--2 inch, 5 inch and 155 mm.

[Link: www.pica.army.mil...]

247 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:22:21pm

re: #241 Decatur Deb

As I read that, the FEMA funding is less than optimal, but the Dem-offending offset was dropped. Have to wait for details.

If that's the case, then it would seem that Boehner's the one that caved, as the 48 Tea Party hold-outs were demanding even deeper cuts than he was willing to put forth. It's perhaps a situation where he decided that poisoning the well wasn't worth it, not with the Super Committee still a month away from putting forth its recommendations.

248 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:22:58pm

re: #244 sattv4u2

ftfy

I WAS the kid brother...and have the scars to prove it

249 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:23:31pm

re: #247 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

If that's the case, then it would seem that Boehner's the one that caved, as the 48 Tea Party hold-outs were demanding even deeper cuts than he was willing to put forth. It's perhaps a situation where he decided that poisoning the well wasn't worth it, not with the Super Committee still a month away from putting forth its recommendations.

Can't tell for sure from the article, but this could end in tears.

250 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:23:49pm

re: #224 Killgore Trout

Velocity (400fps) is way too low. The Remmington has 1200fps. It's a pretty serious little gun.

Don't recommend full power. You really don't want to exceed the speed of sound with a pellet, accuracy goes to shit as the shock front buffets and tumbles the light projectile.

251 makeitstop  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:24:00pm

re: #242 albusteve

I remember BB's bouncing off me...don't recall ever being hit otherwise...rocks were legit too...out of ammo?...toss a grenade

I used to live in a WWII-era housing project, and we'd rip the (asbestos) shingles off the empty houses, break them into pieces and fling them at each other.

252 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:26:21pm

re: #251 makeitstop

I used to live in a WWII-era housing project, and we'd rip the (asbestos) shingles off the empty houses, break them into pieces and fling them at each other.

It's all fun and games until someone gets mesothelioma.

253 makeitstop  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:27:59pm

re: #252 darthstar

It's all fun and games until someone gets mesothelioma.

Yeah. What did we know, though? Back in those days asbestos was still being hailed as a 'miracle substance.'

254 Olsonist  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:28:53pm

re: #240 Killgore Trout

That's not what TalkingPointsMemo is reporting:

It looks like the threat of a government shutdown, and the possibility that FEMA will run out of money this week, will be averted.

On the Senate floor late Monday, Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) announced an agreement by which the Senate (and presumably the House) can dispense with all the sturm und drang about offsetting disaster aid and pass legislation that will keep the government open after September.

255 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:28:57pm

re: #249 Decatur Deb

Can't tell for sure from the article, but this could end in tears.

Oh, that's a given, as there's no way to truly make either side happy. Boehner's choices were:

1. Deeper cuts to please the Tea Partiers, whose consequences I already mentioned.

2. Abide by the Democrats demands for the offsets to be dropped, which would have won them over but further damaged his control over the caucus.

3. Dropped the disaster relief portion of the Continuing Resolution and taken it up as a separate bill, which turns it into a debate over the amount of funding that's to be appropriated, but also removes the cover of making it a budgetary issue if it fails to pass.

Sounds like he might have gone with Choice 2, but we'll know for sure if Cantor greets the vote by whining to the press.

256 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:28:57pm

re: #247 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

If that's the case, then it would seem that Boehner's the one that caved, as the 48 Tea Party hold-outs were demanding even deeper cuts than he was willing to put forth. It's perhaps a situation where he decided that poisoning the well wasn't worth it, not with the Super Committee still a month away from putting forth its recommendations.

Per the NYT, there is no offset, but the House could still screw it up.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

257 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:32:18pm

re: #252 darthstar

It's all fun and games until someone gets mesothelioma.

Just call the Law Firm of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe

258 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:33:12pm

On todays date, in 1957, West Side Story premiered on Broadway

259 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:35:44pm

re: #258 sattv4u2

On todays date, in 1957, West Side Story premiered on Broadway

We ain't no delinquents, we're misunderstood

260 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:36:04pm

Ah, I love this time of year. It's well and truly autumn - I got my Federal Duck Stamp in the mail today.

And as for that rat bastard LaPierre, may he rot for all the damage he and his causes lawful gun owners and hunters.

261 b_sharp  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:36:13pm

re: #188 Sergey Romanov

Oh, that's good! Now Obama should simply take their guns and that will mean he's not taking them. I mean, it's clear as a day.

It has become a sign of thoughtful anti-naivety to embrace as many Obama conspiracy theories as possible.

Had Obama had anything to do with the moon landings we would all know the truth of the fraud. We'd also all know aliens by name.

262 prairiefire  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:36:32pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

I bought a rat killing air gun today
[Link: www.remington.com...]
Surprisingly powerful. I took a couple practice shots this afternoon. Lots of fun.

Try to chase them into a limited area. We shot one in between a stereo cabinet shelf. It helps that their eyes are shiny in the dark.

263 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:36:37pm

Share Traders More Reckless Than Psychopaths, Study Shows

"Naturally one can't characterize the traders as deranged," Noll told SPIEGEL. "But for example, they behaved more egotistically and were more willing to take risks than a group of psychopaths who took the same test."

Particularly shocking for Noll was the fact that the bankers weren't aiming for higher winnings than their comparison group. Instead they were more interested in achieving a competitive advantage. Instead of taking a sober and businesslike approach to reaching the highest profit, "it was most important to the traders to get more than their opponents," Noll explained. "And they spent a lot of energy trying to damage their opponents."

264 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:38:36pm

re: #259 Decatur Deb

We ain't no delinquents, we're misunderstood

When you're a Jet, you're a Jet all the way! from you first cigarette your last dyin' days.

265 b_sharp  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:39:26pm

re: #207 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
I used to use a BB gun to shoot them off the telephone wires, they would drop 20 feet, bounce & keep running. Unless I got one in the eye. That was a kill. Bloodthirsty mode, off now.

NO!

You have ruined my image of you.

266 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:39:33pm

re: #259 Decatur Deb

I feel pretty, oh so pretty! I feel pretty, and witty, and gay!

NTTAWWT!!!!

267 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:39:49pm

re: #263 goddamnedfrank

I'd like to know where one goes to get a load of psychopaths when one wants to do a controlled experiment? Hollywood?

268 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:39:53pm

re: #262 prairiefire

Try to chase them into a limited area. We shot one in between a stereo cabinet shelf. It helps that their eyes are shiny in the dark.

I have a live trap so they'll be pretty easy targets.

269 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:40:29pm

re: #265 b_sharp

NO!

You have ruined my image of you.

Mine rose.

270 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:40:58pm

re: #264 sattv4u2

When you're a Jet, you're a Jet all the way! from you first cigarette your last dyin' days.

The movie version was great then, especially the music, but the dialog had too much slang to weather the decades.

271 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:41:16pm

re: #230 albusteve

I got my new Crossman pump BB gun and started shooting birds...my sister caught me and beat the snot outa me...then we had our neighborhood BB gun wars...jackets, winter caps, snorkle masks...I planted a BB in my buddies forehead, point blank, stuck there under the skin...that was the end of that

My dad had one of those.

272 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:41:48pm

re: #267 Naso Tang

I'd like to know where one goes to get a load of psychopaths when one wants to do a controlled experiment? Hollywood?

Psychopaths 'R Us. (Beat Steve to it.)

273 laZardo  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:42:26pm

re: #272 Decatur Deb

Psychopaths 'R Us. (Beat Steve to it.)

Pfft. They go to Crazy Eddie's. Where the prices and products are INSAAANE!

274 Achilles Tang  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:43:16pm

re: #272 Decatur Deb

Psychopaths 'R Us. (Beat Steve to it.)

Speak for yourselves.

275 Interesting Times  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:45:09pm

re: #263 goddamnedfrank

Share Traders More Reckless Than Psychopaths, Study Shows

Instead they were more interested in achieving a competitive advantage. Instead of taking a sober and businesslike approach to reaching the highest profit, "it was most important to the traders to get more than their opponents," Noll explained. "And they spent a lot of energy trying to damage their opponents."

An old Russian joke tells the story of a peasant with one cow who hates his neighbor because he has two. A sorcerer offers to grant the envious farmer a single wish. “Kill one of my neighbor’s cows!” he demands.

276 b_sharp  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:45:33pm

re: #242 albusteve

I remember BB's bouncing off me...don't recall ever being hit otherwise...rocks were legit too...out of ammo?...toss a grenade

I used to practice my pitching by beaning my younger brother with rocks.
That's one reason he was so successful in getting me into trouble.

277 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:45:56pm

re: #272 Decatur Deb

Psychopaths 'R Us. (Beat Steve to it.)

now I got nuthin

278 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:46:49pm

I think LGF has evolved for the better, and one of the reasons is the LGF pages. Because of the variety of interests and perspectives represented on the right side of the site, it is a blog that faithfully represents it's users. If I have heard enough about domestic social issues, I can post a thread on Iran. And if nobody gives a shit about my topic, I just scan the items on the right and generally find some good reading. It is actually a very credible news site as well.

279 b_sharp  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:49:03pm

re: #269 Naso Tang

Mine rose.

TMI.

280 makeitstop  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:49:12pm

re: #264 sattv4u2

When you're a Jet, you're a Jet all the way! from you first cigarette your last dyin' days.

Gee, Officer Krupke.... Krup YOU!! :)

West Side Story is still just about the only musical I can stand to listen to.

281 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:49:22pm

And by the way ... The Sox seriously need a win tonight.

282 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:49:22pm

re: #276 b_sharp

I used to practice my pitching by beaning my younger brother with rocks.
That's one reason he was so successful in getting me into trouble.

I have a V shaped scar on my head, an inch both ways from a grenade...knocked me out...by buddies got me home, bleeding like a pig...my dad cleaned it, doubled over a washcloth, told me to hold it there til tomorrow and said, there you go! all better!

283 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:50:19pm

re: #281 _RememberTonyC

And by the way ... The Sox seriously need a win tonight.

ah, the Game is in Dallas tonight...40min
the RS are baked

284 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:50:49pm

re: #278 _RememberTonyC

I think LGF has evolved for the better, and one of the reasons is the LGF pages. Because of the variety of interests and perspectives represented on the right side of the site, it is a blog that faithfully represents it's users. If I have heard enough about domestic social issues, I can post a thread on Iran. And if nobody gives a shit about my topic, I just scan the items on the right and generally find some good reading. It is actually a very credible news site as well.

My favorite pages are the ones about people's hobbies, photography, personal thoughts, etc. It's interesting to see what people are passionate about.

285 b_sharp  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:51:43pm

re: #282 albusteve

I have a V shaped scar on my head, an inch both ways from a grenade...knocked me out...by buddies got me home, bleeding like a pig...my dad cleaned it, doubled over a washcloth, told me to hold it there til tomorrow and said, there you go! all better!

Those were the days. Kids now are way too protected.

286 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:52:14pm

re: #282 albusteve

Saw my first cfb game in the Big House on Saturday. Just an intimate little gathering of 110,000 ... And a 28-7 win. Go Blue.

287 reine.de.tout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:52:29pm

re: #278 _RememberTonyC

I think LGF has evolved for the better, and one of the reasons is the LGF pages. Because of the variety of interests and perspectives represented on the right side of the site, it is a blog that faithfully represents it's users. If I have heard enough about domestic social issues, I can post a thread on Iran. And if nobody gives a shit about my topic, I just scan the items on the right and generally find some good reading. It is actually a very credible news site as well.

The Pages feature is fabulous.

288 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:53:31pm

re: #272 Decatur Deb

Psychopaths 'R Us. (Beat Steve to it.)

Securitas Security Services, USA
My security guard friend used to work for this mob and we briefly employed them at my building. One guy they sent out was arrested for breaking windows at the neighboring building. Another, a supervisor, assaulted a fellow guard who cursed back at him when he called the guard an SOB. Yet another Securitas supervisor was quite literally the most hostile person I have ever run across. I had heard complaints that he would glare and shake his fists at everyone who approached him. I did so and asked him what was wrong. He sneered, "Maybe you could just identify yourself." I said my name and added, "I own the place and you have ten seconds to get the hell out of here. Otherwise, it's a matter of gravity and chance which hits the pavement first, you ugly ass or your stinking badge." Btw, this psycho was about 70 years old. They boasted that they give people a psych profile when they go to work. They didn't mention that if someone comes back as "violent sociopath" they are promoted to management.

289 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:53:44pm

re: #287 reine.de.tout

As is Reine!

290 b_sharp  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:54:16pm

re: #287 reine.de.tout

The Pages feature is fabulous.

They go with your purse and shoes I'll bet.

291 reine.de.tout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:54:22pm

re: #289 Floral Giraffe

As is Reine!

Aw, you're sweet!
How ya doin'?

292 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:54:41pm

re: #284 Killgore Trout

My favorite pages are the ones about people's hobbies, photography, personal thoughts, etc. It's interesting to see what people are passionate about.

Exactly ... And it's interesting how some people use the LGF pages. Certain patterns have emerged.

293 reine.de.tout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:54:57pm

re: #290 b_sharp

They go with your purse and shoes I'll bet.

Oh, yes.
Everything goes with my purse and shoes. And of course, my pearl necklace, handy for clutching purposes.

294 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:57:23pm

re: #283 albusteve

ah, the Game is in Dallas tonight...40min
the RS are baked

Sox will gasp across the finish line and get the WC. But after that, expectations are lowered.

295 b_sharp  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:57:41pm

re: #293 reine.de.tout

Oh, yes.
Everything goes with my purse and shoes. And of course, my pearl necklace, handy for clutching purposes.

I hear clutching pearls are just fabulous too. (said in my best effeminate voice)

296 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:58:07pm

re: #285 b_sharp

Those were the days. Kids now are way too protected.

probably...I had a very Rockwellian upbringing....basically we did whatever we wanted, whenever we wanted to...roaming over a few square miles of hood...at 8-10 years old we might be gone all day, out of touch and nobody thought much of it...back then, for me at least, it would be a HUGE mistake for an adult to mess with us or do us any harm...if any bully took me down, he had to face my kin, we had reputations to preserve...and it all worked out fine...times change tho, and now a 12 year old will kill you

297 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:58:39pm

re: #293 reine.de.tout

LOL!
You? CLutching pearls, I think NOT!

298 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:59:36pm

re: #297 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
You? CLutching pearls, I think NOT!

Nobody better try to clutch at my pearls

Well,, that is,,,unless you buy me dinner and drinks 1st!

299 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 4:59:39pm

re: #290 b_sharp

AHEM.
It's a HANDBAG. A purse is something you do with your lips!
Says the old bag who used to be in the business.

300 reine.de.tout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:00:02pm

re: #297 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
You? CLutching pearls, I think NOT!

*snicker*

301 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:00:20pm

re: #286 _RememberTonyC

Saw my first cfb game in the Big House on Saturday. Just an intimate little gathering of 110,000 ... And a 28-7 win. Go Blue.

cool!...A2 is such a rush, I'm so impressed your boy goes there...he/you will have a terrific experience in the coming times...no finer college town in the whole country

302 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:01:45pm

re: #298 sattv4u2

Nobody better try to clutch at my pearls

Well,, that is,,,unless you buy me dinner and drinks 1st!

Those are BB's, not pearls

303 laZardo  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:01:59pm
304 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:04:21pm

I'm starting to sweat...breathing is a bit shallow...sphincters tightening...a bit agitated...
Cowboys/Redskins....25min

305 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:04:31pm

re: #302 _RememberTonyC

Those are BB's, not pearls

Big
Balls

thanks for noticing!

306 reine.de.tout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:04:51pm

re: #305 sattv4u2

Big
Balls

thanks for noticing!

Oh, ew.
You are so bad.

307 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:05:09pm

re: #303 laZardo

I'd go to this bar.

The Final Frontier

308 engineer cat  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:05:45pm

all the talking heads are waiting for the Jersey Gasbag now

309 reine.de.tout  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:07:02pm

So . . .
Has this one made the rounds yet?

What do you get if you cross a Jehova's Witness with an atheist?

Someone who knocks on your door for no apparent reason.

310 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:07:13pm

re: #301 albusteve

cool!...A2 is such a rush, I'm so impressed your boy goes there...he/you will have a terrific experience in the coming times...no finer college town in the whole country

Thanks for the kind words ... A2 is the coolest ... Incredibly diverse, but classy across the board. Great kids, nice families. and the value of loyalty is the best feature of UM. I am very proud of both my sons, but having worked with Bo back in the early '90s, I have always had an affinity for UM. And I'm glad one son will be a "Michigan Man."

311 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:07:47pm

re: #309 reine.de.tout

So . . .
Has this one made the rounds yet?

What do you get if you cross a Jehova's Witness with an atheist?

Someone who knocks on your door for no apparent reason.

aha!...
2pts

312 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:09:04pm

re: #306 reine.de.tout

Oh, ew.
You are so bad.

He'd a "killed 'em" back in the vaudeville era
/

313 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:10:30pm

re: #310 _RememberTonyC

Thanks for the kind words ... A2 is the coolest ... Incredibly diverse, but classy across the board. Great kids, nice families. and the value of loyalty is the best feature of UM. I am very proud of both my sons, but having worked with Bo back in the early '90s, I have always had an affinity for UM. And I'm glad one son will be a "Michigan Man."

Harvard of the Midwest and all that...a fine school by any measure...I miss those times, bad...my boy was up from Fla for last weeks game....he's relentless...there is just something about UM

314 b_sharp  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:11:04pm

re: #296 albusteve

probably...I had a very Rockwellian upbringing...basically we did whatever we wanted, whenever we wanted to...roaming over a few square miles of hood...at 8-10 years old we might be gone all day, out of touch and nobody thought much of it...back then, for me at least, it would be a HUGE mistake for an adult to mess with us or do us any harm...if any bully took me down, he had to face my kin, we had reputations to preserve...and it all worked out fine...times change tho, and now a 12 year old will kill you

That sounds much like my upbringing. We used to get booted out of the house in the morning and only returned long enough to grab food then head out again. We lived on the edge of the city so there were large uninhabited areas to romp around. There was an abandoned farm yard just north of us and an orchard just west. Just south of that was the dumping zone for topsoil from the houses they were building. There were dozens of little 5' tall hills. Wars aplenty. I was well armed with my 'Have Gun will Travel' revolvers and derringers, and my Johnny Seven weapon.

Now people get all anxious about their kids crossing the street.

315 b_sharp  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:13:18pm

re: #302 _RememberTonyC

Those are BB's, not pearls

Oh, that was low. I wish I'd thought of it.

316 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:14:07pm

re: #315 b_sharp

Oh, that was low. I wish I'd thought of it.

You will!~

317 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:16:01pm

re: #309 reine.de.tout

So . . .
Has this one made the rounds yet?

What do you get if you cross a Jehova's Witness with an atheist?

Someone who knocks on your door for no apparent reason.

Friend fwd'd an email clunker today:

Love is a cardgame: It starts with hearts and diamonds, but in the end all you want is a club and a spade.

318 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:16:21pm

re: #313 albusteve

Harvard of the Midwest and all that...a fine school by any measure...I miss those times, bad...my boy was up from Fla for last weeks game...he's relentless...there is just something about UM

I remember hearing about your son ... A high achiever for sure. Michigan alums are loyal. I work with many of them. They look after their own ... They are like a gigantic family or fraternity. All my colleagues from work that went to Michigan have reached out to my son with offers to connect him up with key people. Go Blue!

319 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:17:13pm

re: #314 b_sharp

That sounds much like my upbringing. We used to get booted out of the house in the morning and only returned long enough to grab food then head out again. We lived on the edge of the city so there were large uninhabited areas to romp around. There was an abandoned farm yard just north of us and an orchard just west. Just south of that was the dumping zone for topsoil from the houses they were building. There were dozens of little 5' tall hills. Wars aplenty. I was well armed with my 'Have Gun will Travel' revolvers and derringers, and my Johnny Seven weapon.

Now people get all anxious about their kids crossing the street.

there are still, to this day, places like that....many fewer obviously but growing up is a one time thing...I cannot imagine worrying about it now...it seems so unnatural...for all of this we've mentioned, my daughter lives in a small town, not far from the big city...lots of open space and trusty people, perfect for raising kids these days...but our time is long gone and now you have to spend the money to contrive that life...but it can be done

320 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:21:21pm

re: #318 _RememberTonyC

I remember hearing about your son ... A high achiever for sure. Michigan alums are loyal. I work with many of them. They look after their own ... They are like a gigantic family or fraternity. All my colleagues from work that went to Michigan have reached out to my son with offers to connect him up with key people. Go Blue!

there you have it...anybody would fall on live with Ann Arbor....A2 was the epicenter for the Delta blues resurgence in the late 60's...I was there for the very first Blues Fest...an epic, historical event...same weekend as Woodstock

321 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:26:17pm

re: #320 albusteve

there you have it...anybody would fall on live with Ann Arbor...A2 was the epicenter for the Delta blues resurgence in the late 60's...I was there for the very first Blues Fest...an epic, historical event...same weekend as Woodstock

And everyone there is psyched about the Tigers and the Lions too. Great sports environment in Michigan right now.

322 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:27:38pm

re: #321 _RememberTonyC

And everyone there is psyched about the Tigers and the Lions too. Great sports environment in Michigan right now.

FUCK THE MOTHERFUCKING LIONS AND THEIR MOTHERFUCKING COMEBACK VICTORY OVER MY MOTHERFUCKING VIKINGS. There...I feel better now that I got that off my chest.

323 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:29:25pm

re: #321 _RememberTonyC

And everyone there is psyched about the Tigers and the Lions too. Great sports environment in Michigan right now.

oh man...the Lions will electrify the entire state...in all the decades past, their fans have never given up on those guys...a huge story and the Cowboys play them next week...watch out, the Lions used to beat the CB's regularly for some reason...I love it

324 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:29:25pm

re: #322 darthstar

FUCK THE MOTHERFUCKING LIONS AND THEIR MOTHERFUCKING COMEBACK VICTORY OVER MY MOTHERFUCKING VIKINGS. There...I feel better now that I got that off my chest.

Now, now, you just have to understand that's just how the purple parakeets have always been.

//says the grinning, ducking & running Packers fan ;)

325 albusteve  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:30:38pm

game time....
I already need oxygen...
it's on

326 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:30:58pm

re: #323 albusteve

oh man...the Lions will electrify the entire state...in all the decades past, their fans have never given up on those guys...a huge story and the Cowboys play them next week...watch out, the Lions used to beat the CB's regularly for some reason...I love it

I really want Detroit and Green Bay to go into the Thanksgiving Day game with both undefeated. That would be twenty kinds of awesome in the Midwest.

327 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:31:04pm

re: #324 wlewisiii

Now, now, you just have to understand that's just how the purple parakeets have always been.

//says the grinning, ducking & running Packers fan ;)

Wisconsin cheese makes me long for Velveeta.
(okay, that was low, I admit...and I apologize in advance)

328 Digital Display  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:32:27pm

re: #323 albusteve

oh man...the Lions will electrify the entire state...in all the decades past, their fans have never given up on those guys...a huge story and the Cowboys play them next week...watch out, the Lions used to beat the CB's regularly for some reason...I love it

Time for kick-off
Everybody is picking the Cowboys tonight.. I think one hard hit on Romo throws that pick under the bus..
I hate the Redskins so I'll root for the Cowboys tonight..

329 darthstar  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:32:33pm

OT: But for comics geeks...this looks like it could be fun.

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

330 Only The Lurker Knows  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:33:19pm

Repost from the previous thead and a Hello to the Lizard Nation.

A note to any SYSOP (Blog/BBS). Regardless of how many moderators you have, in the end it YOUR RESPONSIBILITY for what the hell is posted on YOUR SITE. It belongs to you and you own its content. Been there done that. Don't want it anymore.

331 austin_blue  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:33:21pm

Gah! I thought this summer thing was over!! 105 yesterday, 104 today. This summer has sucked, big time. And still only .21" of rain in my gauge since June 21st.

Grumble grumble grumble..

Ooh! Football! Shiny!

332 Digital Display  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:35:16pm

re: #331 austin_blue

Gah! I thought this summer thing was over!! 105 yesterday, 104 today. This summer has sucked, big time. And still only .21" of rain in my gauge since June 21st.

Grumble grumble grumble..

Ooh! Football! Shiny!

82 or so today in Oklahoma
Man..I really wish you guys would get relief..

333 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:39:56pm

re: #326 wlewisiii

I really want Detroit and Green Bay to go into the Thanksgiving Day game with both undefeated. That would be twenty kinds of awesome in the Midwest.

Ndamokong is "suh" good ...

334 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:45:49pm

re: #332 HoosierHoops

With the 1st pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Indianapolis Colts take Andrew Luck,,, Quarterback,, Stanford

335 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:46:01pm

re: #333 _RememberTonyC

Ndamokong is "suh" good ...

{groan}

336 Gus  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:46:21pm

Sorry about the other night guys. I'm still going stir crazy here and bored out of my skull at times. I'm not going anywhere just yet. Was just having a serious case of the blues that's still hovering over me.

337 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:48:53pm

re: #336 Gus 802

We told all kinds of BAD ASS stories about you today.
Sorry you missed them!
///
Hope all is going well?
You've got my mail.
*smooch*

338 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:49:13pm

re: #335 sattv4u2

{groan}

Sox tied in Balt ... Tampa leads NY 4-2 ... Scary times ...

339 Gus  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:50:19pm

re: #337 Floral Giraffe

We told all kinds of BAD ASS stories about you today.
Sorry you missed them!
///
Hope all is going well?
You've got my mail.
*smooch*

{{{Floral Giraffe}}}

My life is too boring for bad ass stories. ;)

340 prairiefire  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:52:14pm

re: #322 darthstar

FUCK THE MOTHERFUCKING LIONS AND THEIR MOTHERFUCKING COMEBACK VICTORY OVER MY MOTHERFUCKING VIKINGS. There...I feel better now that I got that off my chest.

Ahhh, a pumpkin.

341 prairiefire  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:54:40pm

re: #339 Gus 802

{{{{Gus802}}}} You helped mr figure out my great uncle was a supply line pilot in WW2.

342 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:56:00pm

re: #339 Gus 802

Well, OK, I made some up.
STILL, you were bad ass!
Heck, Charles asked after you!
Search upthread, I'm too lazy.
*smooch*
again, anyway!

343 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 5:59:20pm

re: #336 Gus 802

Sorry about the other night guys. I'm still going stir crazy here and bored out of my skull at times. I'm not going anywhere just yet. Was just having a serious case of the blues that's still hovering over me.

Come in and sit down. We were just having a wake for...someone.

344 Gus  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 6:00:48pm

re: #341 prairiefire

{{{Gus802}}} You helped mr figure out my great uncle was a supply line pilot in WW2.

I remember that. :)

345 Gus  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 6:01:31pm

re: #342 Floral Giraffe

Well, OK, I made some up.
STILL, you were bad ass!
Heck, Charles asked after you!
Search upthread, I'm too lazy.
*smooch*
again, anyway!

I'm too embarrassed to look. Tell you what though. I got even more bored by taking two days off. :)

346 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 6:02:11pm

re: #345 Gus 802

Email me?
Seriously.

347 Gus  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 6:02:58pm

re: #346 Floral Giraffe

Email me?
Seriously.

OK. Maybe in a bit. Having some dizziness issues. Just mild ones though. Don't panic.

348 MicheleR  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 6:06:23pm

As a person new here, thank you for this post. It helps a lot to understand why the members here, the Lizards, demand what they do from new people like me. I am not posting much, trying to catch up to a lot of you, and making sure that when I do post, it is worth reading.

349 MicheleR  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 6:09:34pm

re: #327 darthstar
OOOOOOOh that was unkind. . .:) Green Bay girl here, I think that was so mean so mean, but I get your pain. . .we gots good cheese, oh and a quarterback:D

350 MicheleR  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 6:11:12pm

re: #326 wlewisiii
From your mouth to G-d's ear. . .I think the Lions are one to something this year- they beat my Packers last year, and have always been a force to reckon with. . .they bring their extra large can of whoop ass for the Packers. . .and they USE it:)

351 BongCrodny  Mon, Sep 26, 2011 6:35:11pm

re: #338 _RememberTonyC

Sox tied in Balt ... Tampa leads NY 4-2 ... Scary times ...

Seems like a different guy every night causing the pain. Looks like Jacoby Ellsbury drew the short straw tonight. :-(


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