Jon Stewart: Mitt Romney, Manchurian Candi-Dad
“That hurts where my feelings should be”
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:35:38pm |
It's still Romney's turn, that's all that matters in GOP primaries.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:38:54pm |
gotta say, there's a bit of sadness in the 'don't be in politics' thing... he really had no choice but to go into politics (political family), maybe he regrets not just living off his wealth ><
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:41:45pm |
re: #2 windsagio
gotta say, there's a bit of sadness in the 'don't be in politics' thing... he really had no choice but to go into politics (political family), maybe he regrets not just living off his wealth ><
LOL
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:45:28pm |
And that is the thing. IF the old Mitt Romney had held to his guns and argued for why his policies in Massachusetts (so very similar to Obama) were actually good things, stayed pro-choice and held to supporting science on issues of climate, environment and evolution (so very similar to Obama), and if he had stuck to his guns on cutting corporate tax loopholes (so very similar to Obama) he would been a palatable candidate even to me because then he would have shown a great deal of spine and moral courage.
Of course he didn't. There is nothing in the GOP other than insane fanatics, drooling ignorant incompetents, theocrats, plutocrats, racists and those who lick their sphincters for personal gain.
Romney is worse than most because he seems a bright guy who knows better.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:47:01pm |
re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote
And that is the thing. IF the old Mitt Romney had held to his guns and argued for why his policies in Massachusetts (so very similar to Obama) were actually good things, stayed pro-choice and held to supporting science on issues of climate, environment and evolution (so very similar to Obama), and if he had stuck to his guns on cutting corporate tax loopholes (so very similar to Obama) he would been a palatable candidate even to me because then he would have shown a great deal of spine and moral courage.
Of course he didn't.
I'd have voted for 2007 Romney if he were still around.
2012 Romney? Not a fucking chance.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:48:40pm |
again, he must feel SO MUCH PRESSURE to win. His dad failed to make Pres, so its on him (kind of like the Kennedies)
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:49:37pm |
re: #6 windsagio
Kennedys. It's a proper name.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:50:25pm |
re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'd have voted for 2007 Romney if he were still around.
2012 Romney? Not a fucking chance.
his words are simply chum for the fish...hardly much different than any pol, but as a professional candidate, it all comes back to bite him in the ass...he's just another guy to me, nobody special at all
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BishopX Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:50:27pm |
re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote
He should have just switched parties...
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:51:03pm |
re: #6 windsagio
again, he must feel SO MUCH PRESSURE to win. His dad failed to make Pres, so its on him (kind of like the Kennedies)
he must
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:51:10pm |
re: #9 BishopX
He should have just switched parties...
That would have required spine and moral courage.
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engineer cat Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:51:19pm |
sigh... they'll find someway to talk themselves into believing that he's really a conservative, and vote for him anyway...
after all, if tea partiers really cared about reality and logic, they'd be liberals
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:51:49pm |
re: #9 BishopX
He should have just switched parties...
"I didn't switch parties, the parties switched on me"
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:52:09pm |
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:53:32pm |
re: #11 LudwigVanQuixote
That would have required spine and moral courage.
Not really, just self awareness. When Strom Thurmond switched and became a Republican in 1964 it wasn't spine or moral courage that guided him, just awareness of what he was and where he truly belonged.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:55:55pm |
re: #16 goddamnedfrank
Not really, just self awareness. When Strom Thurmond switched and became a Republican in 1964 it wasn't spine or moral courage that guided him, just awareness of what he was and where he truly belonged.
Yes, in a party that doesn't think segregation is all that bad. All those Dixiecrats took their little sheets, hoods crosses and bibles over to the GOP a long time ago.
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Ming Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:56:48pm |
Ironically, if Romney does win the Republican nomination, and runs against Obama, the race will be between the two elected officials who actually did achieve near-universal health coverage: Romney in Massachusetts, Obama in the USA. Then, if Romney is elected, he may repeal Obama's universal health coverage! How's that for something that makes no sense?
Romney has one thing in common with Sarah Palin: if they become President, no one can possibly know what position they will take on ANY issue. Romney is like this because he's an opportunist; Palin is like this because she's not mentally well. But they both end up in the same place: like a king or queen, beholden to no one but themselves, free to do anything about any issue facing the country.
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mr.fusion Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:57:19pm |
re: #1 windsagio
It's still Romney's turn, that's all that matters in GOP primaries.
I'm going to go on record just one more time (feel free to call me an idiot)
Sarah Palin will be the Republican nominee in 2012
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erik_t Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:58:45pm |
re: #19 mr.fusion
That ship has sailed. Even if she wanted to run and win (which I don't think she really does), she's a pale imitation of several different fringe tea-leaning candidates that have already crashed and burned.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:01:01pm |
I still can't get over this:
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mr.fusion Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:03:23pm |
re: #20 erik_t
That ship has sailed. Even if she wanted to run and win (which I don't think she really does), she's a pale imitation of several different fringe tea-leaning candidates that have already crashed and burned.
And she'll get all their supporters once that crash and burn is complete
For cripes sake Herman Cain is leading Romney in a few new polls......she'll have the cash and the rabid "grassroots" support to outlast everyone other than Romney (not sure how long Perry's slide will continue but if it does he'll be out early next yr).....and if she does outlast everybody but Romney she becomes the other choice and gains everybody's support.
Romney isn't just at his floor right now....he's really close to his ceiling.
Does she want to be President? No
Does she want the attention? Does she see herself as a modern day Esther? I'll let you answer those questions
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:06:59pm |
re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'd have voted for 2007 Romney if he were still around.
2012 Romney? Not a fucking chance.
Let me repeat.
I would vote for:
My dog Max,
A steaming pile of Max's turds
A cold pile of Max's turds
Mussolini's upside down skeleton
Charles Manson
in that order, before any of the current crop of GOP plutocratic, greedy, stupid, evil, theocratic, ignorant, arrogant, racist, douchebags and slime molds.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:07:24pm |
re: #22 000G
I still can't get over this:
[Video]
it will all become clear what exactly happened inside WS when the Justice Dept concludes it's investigations
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:10:24pm |
re: #22 000G
I still can't get over this:
[Video]
Typical callous GOP bullshit that doesn't count the slanted playing field or the backs upon which the wealthy rose.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:13:52pm |
re: #18 Ming
Ironically, if Romney does win the Republican nomination, and runs against Obama, the race will be between the two elected officials who actually did achieve near-universal health coverage: Romney in Massachusetts, Obama in the USA. Then, if Romney is elected, he may repeal Obama's universal health coverage! How's that for something that makes no sense?
Romney has one thing in common with Sarah Palin: if they become President, no one can possibly know what position they will take on ANY issue. Romney is like this because he's an opportunist; Palin is like this because she's not mentally well. But they both end up in the same place: like a king or queen, beholden to no one but themselves, free to do anything about any issue facing the country.
I mostly agree with you save the implication that Palin is not opportunist. It is absolutely true that she is substantially below average intelligence. It is absolutely true that she is not particularly stable. However, half governor quitter (for more money on Fox gigs), is every inch the craven opportunist.
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engineer cat Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:15:08pm |
re: #22 000G
I still can't get over this:
[Video]
"yes the banks had something to do with it in 2008, but now we're in 2011!"
yes, i murdered my wife in 2008, but now it's 2011!
this is a substandard rhetorical evasion even for a republican politician
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:17:08pm |
Ron Paul: US could target journalists for killing
Escalating his criticism, Paul told a National Press Club luncheon that if citizens do not protest the deaths, the country will start adding reporters to its list of threats that must be taken out.
"Can you imagine being put on a list because you're a threat? What's going to happen when they come to the media? What if the media becomes a threat? ... This is the way this works. It's incrementalism," Paul said.
"It's slipping and sliding, let me tell you."
And what happens when you elect an idiot into Congress? It makes it easier to elect another. It's incrementalism.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:18:25pm |
re: #24 mr.fusion
Does she want the attention? Does she see herself as a modern day Esther? I'll let you answer those questions
The real Esther, risked her life and sacrificed her own happiness for the sake of her people in desperate times. Comparing an honorless pig like Palin, who only thinks of herself first last and always, to Esther is a grievous insult that could only come from the fevered, twisted, egomaniacal imagination of one as worthless as Palin.
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blueraven Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:19:23pm |
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:19:41pm |
re: #22 000G
I've always hated the term Oreo when my black colleagues used it to describe someone like Cain. But I get it after hearing that.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:20:15pm |
re: #32 LudwigVanQuixote
The real Esther, risked her life and sacrificed her own happiness for the sake of her people in desperate times. Comparing an honorless pig like Palin, who only thinks of herself first last and always, to Esther is a grievous insult that could only come from the fevered, twisted, egomaniacal imagination of one as worthless as Palin.
Actually, it was Lou Engle who first made the comparison, but you got the fever twisted mind part dead on.
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Iwouldprefernotto Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:20:54pm |
re: #18 Ming
Ironically, if Romney does win the Republican nomination, and runs against Obama, the race will be between the two elected officials who actually did achieve near-universal health coverage: Romney in Massachusetts, Obama in the USA. Then, if Romney is elected, he may repeal Obama's universal health coverage! How's that for something that makes no sense?
Romney has one thing in common with Sarah Palin: if they become President, no one can possibly know what position they will take on ANY issue. Romney is like this because he's an opportunist; Palin is like this because she's not mentally well. But they both end up in the same place: like a king or queen, beholden to no one but themselves, free to do anything about any issue facing the country.
Don't think so. If Romney wins he will govern like a conservative, because these are the people that would have put him in power and he has very little control over.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:21:58pm |
re: #29 engineer dog
"yes the banks had something to do with it in 2008, but now we're in 2011!"
yes, i murdered my wife in 2008, but now it's 2011!
this is a substandard rhetorical evasion even for a republican politician
And it is not as if it doesn't take years to climb out of such a mess - even if you didn't have the entire GOP trying to prevent crawling out of the mess.
Total POS.
This only works because the average American can't be bothered to learn math.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:22:19pm |
re: #34 LudwigVanQuixote
I still don't like Oreo, but he's a goddamn Uncle Tom.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:22:30pm |
re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Actually, it was Lou Engle who first made the comparison, but you got the fever twisted mind part dead on.
I'm favoring the Joan of Arc analogy for Sarah at this point. The GOP soul under siege from Obama (or Romney if you want to go deeper into the GOP soul being conservative and Romney being not one) and God calling upon her to ride to the rescue, rally the cause, and then defeat the enemy for great glory.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:23:23pm |
re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Actually, it was Lou Engle who first made the comparison, but you got the fever twisted mind part dead on.
Truth, but Sarah happily ran with it. It tickled her ego to do so. In the mean time, the actual Esther was known for her humility, compassion and boundless dedication to the point of her own death - for her people.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:23:48pm |
re: #37 LudwigVanQuixote
And it is not as if it doesn't take years to climb out of such a mess - even if you didn't have the entire GOP trying to prevent crawling out of the mess.
Total POS.
This only works because the average American can't be bothered to learn math.
Math is evil because the IRS uses it to steal your money!
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:24:09pm |
re: #40 LudwigVanQuixote
the 'for her people' bit is where that comparison gets Really really creepy, as compared to just normal wrong hyperbole.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:25:56pm |
re: #39 oaktree
I'm favoring the Joan of Arc analogy for Sarah at this point. The GOP soul under siege from Obama (or Romney if you want to go deeper into the GOP soul being conservative and Romney being not one) and God calling upon her to ride to the rescue, rally the cause, and then defeat the enemy for great glory.
They're like a modern day Light Brigade riding to the rescue!
/because who needs historical context really?
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zora Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:26:07pm |
re: #28 LudwigVanQuixote
Palin Inspired Character in New Novel
Nicolle Wallace, who worked as a senior advisor on the McCain-Palin 2008 campaign, tells Time that the main character in her new novel, It's Classified was based on Sarah Palin.
Said Wallace: "The idea of a mentally ill vice president who suffers in complete isolation was obviously sparked by the behaviors I witnessed by Sarah Palin. What if somebody who was ill-equipped for the office were to ascend to the presidency or vice presidency? What would they do? How long would it take for people to figure it out? I became consumed by this question."
"Palin vacillated between extraordinary highs on the campaign stage -- she ignited more enthusiasm than our side had seen at any other point -- to debilitating lows. She was often withdrawn, uncommunicative and incapable of performing even the most basic tasks required of her job as McCain's running mate... There certainly were discussions -- not for long because of the arc the campaign took -- but certainly there were discussions about whether, if they were to win, it would be appropriate for her to be sworn in."
now wallace tells us: oh yeah, btw. palin is crazy as shit. i was just joking when I said that people that implied that were sexist.
[Link: politicalwire.com...]
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:26:42pm |
re: #42 windsagio
the 'for her people' bit is where that comparison gets Really really creepy, as compared to just normal wrong hyperbole.
You have no idea how insulting and disgusting it is to make the comparison. If you read the Purim story, the story of Esther, it becomes deeply clear what Esther sacrificed, what she endured and why she did it.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:28:48pm |
re: #45 LudwigVanQuixote
I know the story pretty well, yeah.
It's actually funny in a way. The theoretically religious right have it boiled down to 'female and religious leader lady', without any idea why its supposed to be important :p
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:29:22pm |
re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Predictable, but still nice to have a reminder that he's a huge pig.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:29:53pm |
re: #47 windsagio
I know the story pretty well, yeah.
It's actually funny in a way. The theoretically religious right have it boiled down to 'female and religious leader lady', without any idea why its supposed to be important :p
Those are the narrative points they want to use. The rest is just meaningless "nuance" and not worth printing or talking about.
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:30:34pm |
re: #44 zora
Palin Inspired Character in New NovelNicolle Wallace, who worked as a senior advisor on the McCain-Palin 2008 campaign, tells Time that the main character in her new novel, It's Classified was based on Sarah Palin.
now wallace tells us: oh yeah, btw. palin is crazy as shit. i was just joking when I said that people that implied that were sexist.
[Link: politicalwire.com...]
And that item reveals the abject cravenness of the modern GOP. They were willing to ride Palin's popularity among the base to score a win, while knowing full well the entire time that she was unfit for the office of VP.
Pretty disgusting. No. Really disgusting.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:31:00pm |
re: #22 000G
I still can't get over this:
[Video]
lol, just read the best response to Cain:
So, if true, then “job creators” (formerly known as millionaires) are actually irrelevant to boosting employment levels and therefore need not be treated as a protected species. Thanks, Herman!
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:31:18pm |
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:33:40pm |
re: #50 makeitstop
And that item reveals the abject cravenness of the modern GOP. They were willing to ride Palin's popularity among the base to score a win, while knowing full well the entire time that she was unfit for the office of VP.
Pretty disgusting. No. Really disgusting.
Revelations like this make McCain look worse and worse. If these decisions were "forced" on him, at what point do you draw the line and withdraw simply to maintain any personal character and sense of honor? Obviously this point was not reached.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:38:10pm |
Tim Geithner: financial crisis was enormous blow 2 US global credibility; must approach other countries now w/ xtreme humility #ideasforum
[Link: twitter.com...]
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:41:23pm |
re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
So says the lying, drug addicted, fat man who is working on his sixth wife...
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recusancy Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:42:27pm |
re: #54 000G
[Link: twitter.com...]
Also:
Tim Geithner: ultimately u can do only what politics allows u 2 do; if politics blocks fast & bold action, can't put out fire #ideasforum
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Tigger2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:44:34pm |
re: #38 windsagio
I still don't like Oreo, but he's a goddamn Uncle Tom.
Cain's a Corporatist he's one of them.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:44:57pm |
Lud, you got me to do some reading on Esther again. The "Apocryphal" (dunno what the Jewish equivalent of the term is) writings/traditions get pretty interesting.
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recusancy Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:45:10pm |
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:45:49pm |
re: #56 recusancy
Also:
Tim Geithner: ultimately u can do only what politics allows u 2 do; if politics blocks fast & bold action, can't put out fire #ideasforum
I doubt the US body politic will allow the economy to be treated as a giant beef brisket. Which, essentially, appears to be the primary Republican strategy since it appears they believe this as well.
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recusancy Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:46:14pm |
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:46:15pm |
re: #59 recusancy
Means approximately "Black on the outside, white on the inside"
Look at it racially and you'll get it >
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recusancy Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:49:18pm |
re: #62 windsagio
Means approximately "Black on the outside, white on the inside"
Look at it racially and you'll get it >
Not a fan of that or the uncle tom term. Even for someone like Cain.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:50:35pm |
re: #63 recusancy
It has a very definite meaning that is hard to express otherwise, so I'm pretty okay with it.
Only problem is that it doesn't remotely reflect the actual character of Uncle Tom.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:51:59pm |
re: #58 windsagio
Lud, you got me to do some reading on Esther again. The "Apocryphal" (dunno what the Jewish equivalent of the term is) writings/traditions get pretty interesting.
Apocrypha is literally hidden writing. In context, it is stuff that is recognized to some extent, but not considered cannon.
The book of Esther is full on Jewish cannon. It is not apocrypha.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:54:06pm |
re: #65 LudwigVanQuixote
I know what "Apocrypha" means, but I just wasn't sure if it was used as a Christian-specific term, and I try to be sensitive about these things :p
I know that tho', I meant specifically there's a ton of additional writing/traditions about her that aren't in the Book. That stuff is always interesting to me :D
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engineer cat Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:54:16pm |
i think cain is trying to hide the fact that his main cultural identification is 'corporate'
he overcompensates, and the result is uncomfortably insincere and overdone
he reminds me of marshall mcluhan's idea that tv is a 'cool' medium, and not kind to performers who come across as 'hot'
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:55:10pm |
re: #64 windsagio
It doesn't have anything close to a definite meaning. It's a euphemistic way of saying 'race traitor', and it's really stupid for anyone to use, or any of its cognates.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:56:00pm |
re: #65 LudwigVanQuixote
Apocrypha is literally hidden writing. In context it is stuff that is recognized to some extent, but not considered cannon. The book of Esther is full on Jewish cannon.
It's in the Christian cannon as well and, I'll add, well respected in my branch. A better example of a good bit that is part of the Apocrypha is Tobit.
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Digital Display Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:56:37pm |
re: #55 LudwigVanQuixote
So says the lying, drug addicted, fat man who is working on his sixth wife...
You forgot raciest Ludwig...I first heard of Rush years ago on a sports show when he opened his mouth about a certain Black QB...He is a disgusting bigot who just thinks he is plain spoken..Now I pay no heed to his political views. His radio show isn't worth one minute of my life..So I don't judge his politics.. I could care less.. Just like I don't care if he is a druggie, Fat or thin, married once or a thousand times...
I don't like Rush cause 10 years ago he revealed himself a bigot..
I am very proud of America when it rose up against him When he tried to buy the Rams..When I read and heard the voices rise up against that little bitch bigot.. I was very proud...
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:56:46pm |
re: #68 Obdicut
its less harsh than saying 'race traitor' imo. And that's specifically the meaning: "black person that betrays their race in order to curry favor with the (white) establishment"
Which is arguably a good description for Cain, if an ugly one.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:56:46pm |
re: #68 Obdicut
It doesn't have anything close to a definite meaning. It's a euphemistic way of saying 'race traitor', and it's really stupid for anyone to use, or any of its cognates.
And yet, self hating members of races exist. And yet, those types push themselves up by putting down their own people. And yet, those types inculcate themselves with the very enemies of their people for their own gain. And yet, it is a real phenomena.
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engineer cat Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:56:59pm |
re: #66 windsagio
I know what "Apocrypha" means, but I just wasn't sure if it was used as a Christian-specific term, and I try to be sensitive about these things :p
I know that tho', I meant specifically there's a ton of additional writing/traditions about her that aren't in the Book. That stuff is always interesting to me :D
there doesn't seem to be any hebrew word for 'apocrypha' - not that i can find on the innertubes, anyway...
it could be that by the time the concept had been formulated, the jewish community would have used the greek word - after all, the septuagint was written in greek speaking alexandria before the new testament was ever written, and the greek word 'synagogue' was already in use in the jewish community there
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:57:18pm |
CBS New York finds more work for the MBF:
Are The Tea Party & Occupy Wall Street Movements Opposite Sides Of The Same Coin?
Oy.
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Tigger2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:57:48pm |
Here's something all Americans can get behind.
The middle class in this country will never get the representation we deserve until we get the big money out of politics that works against us.
[Link: www.getmoneyout.com...]
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:57:54pm |
re: #69 wlewisiii
It's in the Christian cannon as well and, I'll add, well respected in my branch. A better example of a good bit that is part of the Apocrypha is Tobit.
Or some of the non cannon gospels. Absolutely.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:58:12pm |
re: #69 wlewisiii
Esther was never apocryphal, but its status was wobbly. From the Jewish Encyclopedia:
In view of all the evidence the authority of the Book of Esther as a historical record must be definitely rejected. Its position in the canon among the Hagiographa or "Ketubim" is the only thing which has induced Orthodox scholars to defend its historical character at all. Even the Jews of the first and second centuries of the common era questioned its right to be included among the canonical books of the Bible (compare Meg. 7a). The author makes no mention whatever of God, to whom, in all the other books of the Old Testament, the deliverance of Israel is ascribed. The only allusion in Esther to religion is the mention of fasting (iv. 16, ix. 31). All this agrees with the theory of a late origin for the book, as it is known, for example, from Ecclesiastes, that the religious spirit had degenerated even in Judea in the Greek period, to which Esther, like Daniel, in all probability belongs.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:58:45pm |
re: #66 windsagio
You mean things like midrash.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:59:02pm |
re: #74 makeitstop
CBS New York finds more work for the MBF:
Are The Tea Party & Occupy Wall Street Movements Opposite Sides Of The Same Coin?
Oy.
Take me now, Lord! It's kind of amazing to watch the usual suspects line up around the 'accepted' story.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:59:35pm |
re: #73 engineer dog
there doesn't seem to be any hebrew word for 'apocrypha' - not that i can find on the innertubes, anyway...
it could be that by the time the concept had been formulated, the jewish community would have used the greek word - after all, the septuagint was written in greek speaking alexandria before the new testament was ever written, and the greek word 'synagogue' was already in use in the jewish community there
What happened was that the Jewish cannon was finalized centuries before the Christian one was.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:00:17pm |
re: #75 Tigger2
Here's something all Americans can get behind.
The middle class in this country will never get the representation we deserve until we get the big money out of politics that works against us.[Link: www.getmoneyout.com...]
not gonna happen...big money, politics and govt are all the same thing
why would congress legislate against it's own interests?
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:00:39pm |
dammit you guys, I never said I thought Esther was Apocryphal! I meant things like this!
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:01:51pm |
re: #77 Sergey Romanov
Esther was never apocryphal, but its status was wobbly. From the Jewish Encyclopedia:
And yet, there is an entire holiday called Purim where the one mitzvah is to hear that book. That is rather hardly wobbly.
Be careful about misinterpreting the excerpt of the Jewish encyclopaedia.
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recusancy Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:02:15pm |
re: #75 Tigger2
Here's something all Americans can get behind.
The middle class in this country will never get the representation we deserve until we get the big money out of politics that works against us.[Link: www.getmoneyout.com...]
That will never work. All that will achieve is make it so only billionaires and millionaires can run for office.
"No person, corporation or business entity of any type, domestic or foreign, shall be allowed to contribute money, directly or indirectly, to any candidate for Federal office or to contribute money on behalf of or opposed to any type of campaign for Federal office."
So I can't even give Elizabeth Warren $20 bucks. She'd have to pay for everything herself. The government would be run by the Romney's and Bush's and Kerry's and McCains.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:03:22pm |
re: #70 HoosierHoops
You forgot raciest Ludwig...I first heard of Rush years ago on a sports show when he opened his mouth about a certain Black QB...He is a disgusting bigot who just thinks he is plain spoken..Now I pay no heed to his political views. His radio show isn't worth one minute of my life..So I don't judge his politics.. I could care less.. Just like I don't care if he is a druggie, Fat or thin, married once or a thousand times...
I don't like Rush cause 10 years ago he revealed himself a bigot..
I am very proud of America when it rose up against him When he tried to buy the Rams..When I read and heard the voices rise up against that little bitch bigot.. I was very proud...
Repeated for truth.
Has anyone else noticed the Rush seems to be the inspiration for Cartman?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:03:32pm |
re: #83 LudwigVanQuixote
From the same article:
The object of Esther is undoubtedly to give an explanation of and to exalt the Feast of Purim, of whose real origin little or nothing is known.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:03:58pm |
re: #82 windsagio
We know.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:03:58pm |
re: #83 LudwigVanQuixote
well in fairness a lot of things are 'wobbly' but still traditional feasts.
Does anybody still believe that "Christmas" was actually the day of Christ's birth?
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:04:13pm |
re: #71 windsagio
its less harsh than saying 'race traitor' imo. And that's specifically the meaning: "black person that betrays their race in order to curry favor with the (white) establishment"
Which is arguably a good description for Cain, if an ugly one.
How is it less harsh, if that's the meaning?
And yeah, I know that's what the meaning is. And it's stupid. There's no one way a person of a race is supposed to act. Anyone using that term, or any term like it, is likely going to have very firm ideas of how people of their race are 'supposed' to act-- which makes them shitheads, to me.
There are people who are clearly self-loathing, who buy into the race concept and clearly hate the category they're in, like that Nazi apologist Jew whose name I always happily forget. But that's an entirely different kettle of fish.
I don't think worse of Cain for being a black guy and being a conservative with his views than I think of a white guy with those views. Being black doesn't give you some magic perspective. It shouldn't get you judged more harshly. I think he's wrong and his ideas deserve to be smacked down.
But calling him an 'oreo' is just buying into the same race-based bullshit that's the problem in the first place. It's saying he's really white inside-- instead of dealing with the very real fact that black people can put their own interests in front of their own peoples just like white people can.
Do we call McConnell a race traitor for putting the welfare of rich assholes ahead of millions of white people? No. Why not? He's trying to curry favor with the establishment and betraying his own people-- most of them, anyway-- to do it. So why isn't he a 'race traitor' too?
Race is incidental, and stooping to that level is always a dumb thing, and usually a sign of fanaticism or ignorance on the part of the person using the term.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:04:43pm |
re: #87 Sergey Romanov
We know.
I wonder sometimes, since the first response was to say 'well it's not apocryphal!' :p
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:06:01pm |
Ridiculed Israeli scientist wins Nobel
When Israeli scientist Dan Shechtman claimed to have stumbled upon a new crystalline chemical structure that seemed to violate the laws of nature, colleagues mocked him, insulted him and exiled him from his research group.
After years in the scientific wilderness, though, he was proved right. And on Wednesday, he received the ultimate vindication: the Nobel Prize in chemistry.
The lesson?
"A good scientist is a humble and listening scientist and not one that is sure 100 percent in what he read in the textbooks," Shechtman said.
The shy, 70-year-old Shechtman said he never doubted his findings and considered himself merely the latest in a long line of scientists who advanced their fields by challenging the conventional wisdom and were shunned by the establishment because of it.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:06:09pm |
re: #86 Sergey Romanov
From the same article:
So they're questioning which came first, the Purim or the Esther?
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:07:12pm |
re: #86 Sergey Romanov
From the same article:
We can get into a biblical criticism debate as much as you wish. The ins and outs of the hard archaeology set vs. the traditional set are things that we can go up and down and up and down.
But the claim:
The object of Esther is undoubtedly to give an explanation of and to exalt the Feast of Purim, of whose real origin little or nothing is known.
Phrased in such a way as to completely discount an entire cannon holiday is over the top and pretty damn stupid.
I propose the very simple observation, that had nothing happened at all, it would be very difficult to convince the Jewish people as a nation and even beyond the boundaries of Persia, to make a whole holiday out of it.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:09:38pm |
re: #93 LudwigVanQuixote
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:10:07pm |
re: #93 LudwigVanQuixote
If the author(s) of that entry were still alive, I would say "take it up with them".
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:10:18pm |
re: #93 LudwigVanQuixote
Nit pickery on my part, but shouldn't the usage be "canon" rather than "cannon" in this series of posts?
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engineer cat Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:10:33pm |
re: #74 makeitstop
CBS New York finds more work for the MBF:
Are The Tea Party & Occupy Wall Street Movements Opposite Sides Of The Same Coin?
Oy.
the right wing media will do everything it can to obscure the fact that OWS and the tea party are both against the wall st bailout
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erik_t Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:10:34pm |
re: #85 LudwigVanQuixote
I would be beyond thrilled if he screwed us guys and went home.
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Charleston Chew Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:11:16pm |
re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'd have voted for 2007 Romney if he were still around.
2012 Romney? Not a fucking chance.
2007 Romney should run on a ticket with 2000 McCain. Of course, they'd have to run as Democrats at this point.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:12:12pm |
re: #89 Obdicut
There's no one way a person of a race is supposed to act. Anyone using that term, or any term like it, is likely going to have very firm ideas of how people of their race are 'supposed' to act-- which makes them shitheads, to me.
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engineer cat Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:12:14pm |
re: #92 oaktree
So they're questioning which came first, the Purim or the Esther?
(rattles noise maker and blows new year's horn)
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Charleston Chew Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:12:37pm |
re: #6 windsagio
again, he must feel SO MUCH PRESSURE to win. His dad failed to make Pres, so its on him (kind of like the Kennedies)
I think it shows a little in his "what do you need me to say to vote for me" attitude. I think he lacks true convictions.
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engineer cat Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:12:47pm |
re: #100 Charleston Chew
2007 Romney should run on a ticket with 2000 McCain. Of course, they'd have to run as Democrats at this point.
which one has the tail fins?
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:12:49pm |
re: #89 Obdicut
I should say that's why I think 'Oreo' is worse, there's no practical component, its a criticism of people for acting the wrong way.
Saying race is incidental is hopelessly idealistic in my mind. Try being black for a day and come back and talk about it.
Of course what you find offensive usually has a lot more to do with 'gut feelings' than logic anyways :p
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:12:51pm |
re: #89 Obdicut
I get where you are coming from and I truly respect the sentiment behind what you are saying. It is just that the real world does not work that way.
What would you call Gilad Atzmon? Until recently, I was unfamiliar with that particular lying traitorous piece of shit who hates his own people. Do you deny his Anti-Semitism? Do you deny his ridiculous quotes about Mein Kampf of all things?
Do you deny that expressing these diseased and false ideas benefits him with his crowd in Britain?
I have no problem calling him a vile traitor to his people, a liar and a bit of feces less decent than dog leavings, to be cleaned off the base of my shoes should I ever step on him.
How do you address the reality that:
And yet, self hating members of races exist. And yet, those types push themselves up by putting down their own people. And yet, those types inculcate themselves with the very enemies of their people for their own gain. And yet, it is a real phenomena.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:13:13pm |
re: #97 oaktree
Nit pickery on my part, but shouldn't the usage be "canon" rather than "cannon" in this series of posts?
prolly right... my bad.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:13:47pm |
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:15:49pm |
re: #101 000G
You are right... The majority of Arabs in the middle east are that way and indisputably so. Don't play set theory bullshit with me.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:15:49pm |
re: #104 engineer dog
which one has the tail fins?
McCain flew planes for the US Navy so my bet would be on him.
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Charleston Chew Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:16:45pm |
re: #22 000G
I still can't get over this:
[Video]
Herman Cain: "These demonstrations are orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration."
Cain seriously overestimates Democrats' organizational ability.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:17:22pm |
re: #107 LudwigVanQuixote
prolly right... my bad.
Wasn't only you. And shouldn't be used as a detraction from the context of the discussion. Just pointing it for for future reference since an error like that will make it past spell checking.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:17:24pm |
re: #108 sattv4u2
my '57 Chevy Bel Air!
/
I saw this exact flavor a few weeks ago...convert, same color, identical
[Link: www.misterw.com...]
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:19:01pm |
re: #109 LudwigVanQuixote
It's not "set theory bullshit" to state that your statement was bigotted.
The Arabs treat us like animals every chance they get
That's bigotry. No "amount" of truth will make it not bigotted.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:19:33pm |
re: #113 albusteve
I saw this exact flavor a few weeks ago...convert, same color, identical
[Link: www.misterw.com...]
Be still, my heart
I've seen similar condition for sale for $100K +
[Link: www.rkmotorscharlotte.com...]
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:20:00pm |
re: #105 windsagio
Saying race is incidental is hopelessly idealistic in my mind. Try being black for a day and come back and talk about it.
That's not in the least what I meant. Do you really not get that? Race is, biologically, incidental.
Do you get my main point? Why is, say, Paul Ryan not the same sort of betrayer that you're saying Cain is? Ryan's tax plan would put a world of hurt on tons of white people. He's looking out for his own interests, not for theirs. So why does he escape charges of race betrayal, but Cain gets hit with them?
To me, the very existence of specialized words for minority race traitors is in itself a sign of the endemic racism, and using them is just playing into the dominant hegemony.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:20:26pm |
re: #111 Charleston Chew
Herman Cain: "These demonstrations are orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration."
Cain seriously overestimates Democrats' organizational ability.
He also buys into Infowars conspiracy theories peddled by Drudge.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:21:31pm |
re: #115 sattv4u2
Be still, my heart
I've seen similar condition for sale for $100K +
[Link: www.rkmotorscharlotte.com...]
Nomads and especially convertibles are going up in value fast, but a factory continental kit is about the max...very rare
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Charleston Chew Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:21:49pm |
re: #29 engineer dog
"yes the banks had something to do with it in 2008, but now we're in 2011!"
yes, i murdered my wife in 2008, but now it's 2011!
this is a substandard rhetorical evasion even for a republican politician
"Your honor, the prosecution needs to stop living in the past."
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:22:13pm |
re: #116 Obdicut
because he's not a member of a disadvantaged class. I was just talking with WUB about this, and he pointed out a mistake I made. It's not doing the term justice to limit it to blacks.
we agreed it'd be proper usage to call a homosexual that voted against gay marriage an Uncle Tom too.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:22:24pm |
re: #117 000G
He also buys into Infowars conspiracy theories peddled by Drudge.
Plays into the meme that the protesters are dupes whose message (and presence) can therefore simply be ignored as lying propaganda of the opposition.
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:22:36pm |
re: #106 LudwigVanQuixote
That's the self-loathing dude I was thinking of. He's a psych case, a self-hating Jew. It's not in the least bit the same as Cain. If Cain were claiming black people loved being slaves, that'd put him about at that level. Or if he were saying that he wished the South had won the war.
Sure. Self-loathing people exist, who denigrate themselves in the same racist terms that their opponents use.
But that's not what "oreo" or the other words like at are used to mean. That's an entirely different scale.
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Charleston Chew Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:23:38pm |
re: #31 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Ron Paul: US could target journalists for killing
And what happens when you elect an idiot into Congress? It makes it easier to elect another. It's incrementalism.
Ron Paul is a gateway wingnut.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:23:42pm |
re: #122 Obdicut
its weird to me that you're willing to use 'oreo' over and over but won't even say 'Uncle Tom'
people are weird.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:23:59pm |
re: #118 albusteve
Nomads and especially convertibles are going up in value fast, but a factory continental kit is about the max...very rare
Here's part of a site thats dedicated to selling nothing but 57 Chevys
Bel Airs,, Nomads,, Cameos
[Link: www.cars-on-line.com...]
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:24:21pm |
re: #114 000G
It's not "set theory bullshit" to state that your statement was bigotted.
That's bigotry. No "amount" of truth will make it not bigotted.
Fascinating... defence of bigots by calling bigotry on the victims of their persecution.
Thank you for admitting that no amount of truth or history or the rivers of blood spilled in attack after attack or the millions of them who show up to chant death to all Jews, or the democratic elections of genocidal regimes will counter the notion that calling the genocidal monsters in the majority out will change your mind.
Typical.
This is why I detest moonbats as much as wingnuts. Both are dogma laden to the extent that no amount of suffering in the real world will shake their miserable dogmas.
I am deeply unimpressed with you.
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recusancy Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:24:27pm |
re: #120 windsagio
because he's not a member of a disadvantaged class. I was just talking with WUB about this, and he pointed out a mistake I made. It's not doing the term justice to limit it to blacks.
we agreed it'd be proper usage to call a homosexual that voted against gay marriage an Uncle Tom too.
You're not going to win any converts or friends using that term. It's in your best interest to drop it. It makes you feel good but it does nothing to advance the conversation.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:24:46pm |
re: #92 oaktree
So they're questioning which came first, the Purim or the Esther?
Here's an overview by a rabbi of several theories of origins of Purim:
[Link: www.myjewishlearning.com...]
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:25:00pm |
re: #125 sattv4u2
Here's part of a site thats dedicated to selling nothing but 57 Chevys
Bel Airs,, Nomads,, Cameos
[Link: www.cars-on-line.com...]
heh....hung out there many times
oo la la!
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:27:16pm |
re: #129 albusteve
heh...hung out there many times
oo la la!
Have a spare $89,000?
i'll pop over to Alabama and pick this one up for you and deliver it
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:27:20pm |
re: #127 recusancy
I don't expect to win people over particularly. If nothing else, it simply doesn't work that way.
I'm more exploring what makes people so inconsistently uncomfortable (as in the weird dichotomy expressed in #124).
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:28:28pm |
re: #126 LudwigVanQuixote
Fascinating... defence of bigots by calling bigotry on the victims of their persecution.
Fascinating word salad.
Thank you for admitting that no amount of truth or history or the rivers of blood spilled in attack after attack or the millions of them who show up to chant death to all Jews, or the democratic elections of genocidal regimes will counter the notion that calling the genocidal monsters in the majority out will change your mind.
Huh? That is not adressing at all what I said about what you said. You made a broad and hence bigotted generalization concerning an ethnicity, then tried to weasel out of it be implying you were only refering only to the majority of that ethnicity (which would still be bigotted btw – ever try that on an Arab Israeli?) and accusing me of "bullshit set theory" to blame me for your own poor choice of words.
Typical.
I get it that you don't typically like to get called out on your bigotted statements. Like, in the past, about women or Southerners. You don't have to like it. But you should want to learn.
This is why I detest moonbats as much as wingnuts. Both are dogma laden to the extent that no amount of suffering in the real world will shake their miserable dogmas.
I am deeply unimpressed with you.
Likewise. "Moonbat"? Really? Just because I won't give you that "The Arabs are Antisemites" is not a bigotted statement? Get real, man.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:28:39pm |
re: #114 000G
And further more:
The Arabs treat us like animals every chance they get
What precisely do you have in terms of real world evidence that this is not the real world actual case that obtains in the majority of those populations in the middle East?
Seriously. And to those of you who up-dinged this nonsense, please tell me how the statement does not apply to the majority?
Sometimes I feel like a number of posters here suffer from Aspberger's syndrome in addition to dogmatic moonbattery. People are dying because of that majority belief. That is the real world and some of you people feel the need to parse and mince.
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:29:25pm |
re: #120 windsagio
because he's not a member of a disadvantaged class. I was just talking with WUB about this, and he pointed out a mistake I made. It's not doing the term justice to limit it to blacks.
we agreed it'd be proper usage to call a homosexual that voted against gay marriage an Uncle Tom too.
Oh god. Please don't do that.
Uncle Tom doesn't mean voting against your own interests, anyway. It means actually believing that you're lower status, and acting that way. A gay guy who votes for the Republicans because he doesn't give a shit about gay marriage and is very rich and puts his finances way ahead of his own rights-- I think he's an idiot, but he's not being an Uncle Tom.
That phrase-- which again, is tortuously complicated-- doesn't mean acting against your own interests to curry favor. It means really believing that you're worth less, and acting like it.
So it might describe, possibly, some gay people voting against their own interests, if they were doing so out of a firm conviction that they didn't deserve marriage, that straight people were better, but otherwise, no, it wouldn't fit.
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:30:12pm |
re: #124 windsagio
its weird to me that you're willing to use 'oreo' over and over but won't even say 'Uncle Tom'
people are weird.
?
What are you talking about?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:30:24pm |
re: #127 recusancy
You're not going to win any converts or friends using that term. It's in your best interest to drop it. It makes you feel good but it does nothing to advance the conversation.
sometimes expression isn't about making friends :-)
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:30:34pm |
re: #134 Obdicut
lets just end this then, we could go back and forth for hours probably :p
I'll be more careful about using the term in the future tho', as means of compromise.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:30:41pm |
re: #130 sattv4u2
Have a spare $89,000?
i'll pop over to Alabama and pick this one up for you and deliver it
sweet, but my dream car is a tad more expensive, and much more rare
a COPO Camaro
[Link: forums.motortrend.com...]
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erik_t Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:30:42pm |
Comments like #126, regardless of truth or lack thereof, seem to me to facilitate an outside viewer who is sympathetic to the idea that both sides are of the same coin. Phrasing is important.
(for the record, I do not think this)
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:31:55pm |
re: #133 LudwigVanQuixote
The Arabs
Your words
Do you bristle when someone posts or says "the Jews" and then follows with a negative generalization?
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:32:01pm |
re: #135 Obdicut
ok one more. Just noticed that you used 'oreo' a few times, but always used 'other terms' when discussing the term that was the center of the discussion. Just a weird pattern I noticed :p
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wrenchwench Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:32:01pm |
re: #133 LudwigVanQuixote
And further more:
The Arabs treat us like animals every chance they get
What precisely do you have in terms of real world evidence that this is not the real world actual case that obtains in the majority of those populations in the middle East?
Seriously. And to those of you who up-dinged this nonsense, please tell me how the statement does not apply to the majority?
Sometimes I feel like I a number of posters here suffer from Aspberger's syndrome in addition to dogmatic moonbattery.
Your statement that you quote does not contain the phrase "the majority".
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:32:33pm |
re: #137 windsagio
I don't really see you as having actually given anything back, though. I mean, your last example about calling gay people who vote against gay rights "Uncle Tom", do you get that-- even if you want, for some reason, to use that racially-laden phrase in a different context-- it'd be important why they voted against gay rights, whether it was from actually selfish motives or due to actual belief that gay people were worth less?
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:32:44pm |
re: #132 000G
Since you thought that was word salad, I'll break it down.
As I said, the vast majority of Arabs in the context of that original post do indeed treat Jews like animals or worse every chance they get. This is why you have popular Arab media calling us pigs and donkeys and other insults in addition to stripping our rights and killing us any chance they get.
That is the real bigotry.
Yet you seem to blame me as a bigot for stating a truth written in rivers of blood. Then you play word games.
I am deeply, deeply disappointed in you.
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recusancy Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:32:55pm |
re: #136 WindUpBird
sometimes expression isn't about making friends :-)
But the whole reason he's using the term is to denigrate someone who is hurting his own peoples interests. If all you're doing this for is "expression" and not to actually achieve anything then you're hurting your own interests as well.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:33:36pm |
re: #143 Obdicut
You never do. So sometimes its easier to just end the discussion.
(and seriously that's it, done :p)
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:33:55pm |
re: #141 windsagio
I didn't mean "Uncle Tom" by other terms. I meant the other terms that specifically mean 'one race on the outside, white on the inside'. Uncle Tom is a very different sort of accusation, as detailed above. It's related to ugly crap like "House negro" and stuff like that.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:35:13pm |
re: #144 LudwigVanQuixote
Hows this, describing Palestinians as 'animals' kind of puts your opinions on the matter into askance :p
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:35:26pm |
re: #133 LudwigVanQuixote
And further more:
What precisely do you have in terms of real world evidence that this is not the real world actual case that obtains in the majority of those populations in the middle East?
Seriously. And to those of you who up-dinged this nonsense, please tell me how the statement does not apply to the majority?
Do you really not understand that
The Arabs treat us like animals every chance they get
is not in any way semantically equivalent to
[The] majority of [Arabs] in the middle East [have been treating Jews like animals]
? Or do you understand, but you will use the former statement instead of the latter because even though the latter would be more precise (set aside the fact whether it is true or not) you don't care because "it applies to the majority", so any cases in which it does not apply does not matter?
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:35:38pm |
Ug, the troll down stairs just got on my last nerve.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:35:38pm |
re: #142 wrenchwench
Your statement that you quote does not contain the phrase "the majority".
Yes, despite constantly having to write the disclaimer that all statements about groups refer to a majority in context, I hold out the hope that one day, posters like you will come to realize that such is the structure of the English language.
Enjoy your pile on wrench. The fact you do it for this case is despicable.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:36:13pm |
re: #138 albusteve
sweet, but my dream car is a tad more expensive, and much more rare
a COPO Camaro
[Link: forums.motortrend.com...]
Not familiar with those
COPO, I mean,,,, I had a Camaro
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wrenchwench Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:36:31pm |
re: #151 LudwigVanQuixote
Your statement that you quote does not contain the phrase "the majority".
Yes, despite constantly having to write the disclaimer that all statements about groups refer to a majority in context, I hold out the hope that one day, posters like you will come to realize that such is the structure of the English language.
Enjoy your pile on wrench. The fact you do it for this case is despicable.
You asked those who dinged to respond.
I see that you now regret it.
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:37:20pm |
re: #146 windsagio
You never do. So sometimes its easier to just end the discussion.
Heh. Sure. Go ahead and pull a NJD.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:37:23pm |
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:38:18pm |
re: #151 LudwigVanQuixote
Your statement that you quote does not contain the phrase "the majority".
Yes, despite constantly having to write the disclaimer that all statements about groups refer to a majority in context, I hold out the hope that one day, posters like you will come to realize that such is the structure of the English language.
Enjoy your pile on wrench. The fact you do it for this case is despicable.
I'm deeply, deeply disappointed in you
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wrenchwench Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:38:36pm |
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:38:39pm |
re: #144 LudwigVanQuixote
Since you thought that was word salad, I'll break it down.
As I said, the vast majority of Arabs in the context of that original post do indeed treat Jews like animals or worse every chance they get. This is why you have popular Arab media calling us pigs and donkeys and other insults in addition to stripping our rights and killing us any chance they get.
That is the real bigotry.
That is also bigotry, yes. It is just as "real" as yours.
Yet you seem to blame me as a bigot for stating a truth written in rivers of blood. Then you play word games.
I didn't play "word games". I pointed out your own words to you. They were bigotted, and not "a truth written in rivers of blood".
I am deeply, deeply disappointed in you.
I am deeply disappointed in your lack of discipline when it comes to formulating statements.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:38:39pm |
re: #154 Obdicut
Heh. Sure. Go ahead and pull a NJD.
ok I have to give you props for that :p
If there were any quibble, I'd say a true NJD would be mysteriously having an errand to run when things get hot and heavy. I'm not fleeing entirely, y'see?
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:38:48pm |
re: #89 Obdicut
All of that is true, but I'm still having a hard time with being called brainwashed. It's pandering to those who have ugly feelings towards me and those like me for approval.
I'm Black, I'm a woman with small children, and I have a visceral dislike for Herman Cain.
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darthstar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:39:19pm |
Does anyone else feel the love in here or is it just me?
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:39:45pm |
re: #152 sattv4u2
Not familiar with those
COPO, I mean,,, I had a Camaro
google it....it's a superstar
201 made in 69 only....they are worth millions....
a flat out monster race care
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:39:52pm |
re: #157 wrenchwench
Don't stand so close and it won't hurt so much.
but,, But ,, BUT ,, I paid for a front row seat!
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:40:04pm |
re: #162 albusteve
google it...it's a superstar
201 made in 69 only...they are worth millions...
a flat out monster race care
will do
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:40:25pm |
re: #161 darthstar
after-lunch blues. Or for the east coasters, low blood sugar because its not quite dinner yet.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:40:29pm |
re: #151 LudwigVanQuixote
Yes, despite constantly having to write the disclaimer that all statements about groups refer to a majority in context
If you want to refer to a majority of a group, do so. If you want to refer to a group in whole, do so. Both can be differentiated in a meaningful way. You chose not to do so. And you refuse to deal with the consequences.
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:40:40pm |
re: #159 windsagio
No, he generally just keeps on posting but ignores what I said, often just using a one-liner in response, not actually engaging with what I said.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:40:42pm |
re: #161 darthstar
Does anyone else feel the love in here or is it just me?
I'm just skimming by this one, you?
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:40:51pm |
re: #161 darthstar
Does anyone else feel the love in here or is it just me?
You could cut it with a chainsaw.
/
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:41:12pm |
re: #161 darthstar
Does anyone else feel the love in here or is it just me?
I dunno
Take your hands out of your pants and let someone else try!
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:41:23pm |
re: #148 windsagio
Hows this, describing Palestinians as 'animals' kind of puts your opinions on the matter into askance :p
And you are the jerk who made up calls to hang Palestinians on a thread you didn't even clearly read. You are the last person to comment on this and your anti-Israel views and prejudices are well known. You have a lot of chutzpah.
re: #149 000G
Yes and taking quotes out of context is also a stupid game that you are playing. I have no patience for your semantic games. Please stop it because when you play that in the larger context you are conveniently ignoring - I also notice your convenient ignorance of many dead Jews and the millions of Arabs who call for more death. That insults me, a lot o people I love, and the truth itself. It marks you as someone despicable to do so. So please stop it.
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darthstar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:42:07pm |
re: #165 windsagio
after-lunch blues. Or for the east coasters, low blood sugar because its not quite dinner yet.
There's a cure for low blood sugar...alcohol.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:42:10pm |
re: #167 Obdicut
well to get meta, I did respond, but you did the thing you do where you say 'You didn't respond!'
At that point the only solution is to punt. I acknowledged what you were saying and wanted to move on... not everything ends up with resolution.
In fact, in this world almost nothing does.
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recusancy Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:42:27pm |
re: #159 windsagio
ok I have to give you props for that :p
If there were any quibble, I'd say a true NJD would be mysteriously having an errand to run when things get hot and heavy.
But i just want to see if you understand what Uncle Tom actually means? You understand, per Obdicut, that it means someone who lowers themselves right? It would only be an apt term if Cain lowered himself in some way below white people. If he would have said there's nothing wrong with Perry's hunting camp and was against civil rights then you'd be using the right term. Otherwise you just sound ignorant.
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:43:27pm |
re: #160 OhNoZombies!
All of that is true, but I'm still having a hard time with being called brainwashed. It's pandering to those who have ugly feelings towards me and those like me for approval.
I'm Black, I'm a woman with small children, and I have a visceral dislike for Herman Cain.
Yeah, I do too. And I think it's shitty of him, or of any other GOP guy, to say that blacks are brainwashed into voting for Democrats. In fact, it's pretty racist of him.
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calochortus Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:43:30pm |
Would this be a good time to jump in and say I do not understand how the term "Uncle Tom" came to mean what it does? Having read the book, it seems to me that he was a pattern-card of Christian goodness in the way only the Victorians could create them. He ultimately sacrificed himself to allow a group of slaves to escape. How is this being a race traitor, or sucking up to whites? As I recall, he was accepting of his life, but that seems more a Victorian meme than racist one to me.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:43:52pm |
re: #153 wrenchwench
You asked those who dinged to respond.
I see that you now regret it.
I know you hate me wrench and it appeals to you to pole on me, but the more I see the nature of people like you the more I understand many of the less enjoyable aspects of dealing with the web.
You indulge a petty web spat with me because you care for that more you care for the truth. That is fine.
It just shows your true colours to all who can read. Fitting it is in a thread about Romney.
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:44:31pm |
Interesting: The Big Banks and How They Got That Way...
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:45:04pm |
re: #174 recusancy
Well, Cain did dial back his criticism in a pretty sleazy way.
But I don't think it's because he thinks its fine to use the term n*****head. I think it's because he's a skeez who wants success, just as Perry will lie to an audience and say that the government doesn't create jobs.
The only actual people who would fit the definition that I can think of are all fictional, like that dude on the Boondocks.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:45:44pm |
re: #171 LudwigVanQuixote
Yes and taking quotes out of context is also a stupid game that you are playing.
I explicity linked back to the post that I was quoting, so I am hardly taking anything out of context, Ludwig.
I have no patience for your semantic games.
What you seem to not have patience for is parsing your own statements carefully enough so that you end up saying what you actually meant to say.
Please stop it because when you play that in the larger context you are conveniently ignoring - I also notice your convenient ignorance of many dead Jews and the millions of Arabs who call for more death. That insults me, a lot o people I love, and the truth itself. It marks you as someone despicable to do so. So please stop it.
I have no idea what you are talking about. This certainly does not seem to be about "truth itself" but your own emotional issues. I will thus let it go. I am not anyone's therapist.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:46:46pm |
re: #171 LudwigVanQuixote
Comparing the response in there to a lynch mob was entirely appropriate Ludwig. Its always funny the way people can become analogy-impaired at will.
Funny thing about 'anti-israel' though...
Before I started reading LGF (which was substantially before I started posting, stupid registration windows) I was vastly ignorant on the Israel/Palestine issue, but essentially pro-Israel. Reading you and various others (many of whom are no longer with us) post, seeing you react to things, gave me an extremely jaundiced view of the extremism some people have on the issue.
Calling people who disagree with your extremist position Israel-haters is kind of par for the course. It's like posting Nekama's troll hammer to people who didn't say anything related to its points.
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recusancy Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:46:58pm |
re: #179 Obdicut
Well, Cain did dial back his criticism in a pretty sleazy way.
But I don't think it's because he thinks its fine to use the term n*****head. I think it's because he's a skeez who wants success, just as Perry will lie to an audience and say that the government doesn't create jobs.
The only actual people who would fit the definition that I can think of are all fictional, like that dude on the Boondocks.
Actually, in a way, I can see why it might fit for a gay person to vote against gay rights. They may be voting with their pocket book (because they're rich) but they are also lowering themselves below the rest of society.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:46:59pm |
re: #180 000G
I am not anyone's therapist.
Maybe you should have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night!
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recusancy Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:48:23pm |
Am I watching an emotional breakdown live on the web?
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:48:25pm |
re: #176 calochortus
This is what i meant about the term "Oreo" and "Uncle Tom" not being strongly related. There's a lot of good writing on the subject, but basically the self-abnegation and the passiveness of Uncle Tom's character, over time, was seen not as a heroic example but a servile one. James Baldwin wrote on it, but I can't find what he wrote easily.
The Wiki article gives a moderately good rundown of how the term changed.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:48:48pm |
re: #140 sattv4u2
I bristle when what I say is taken out of context. Your comment is a curious hypocrisy for one of the furthest right fire breathers on LGF.
But typical of you none the less.
This is part of why no one respects you.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:48:49pm |
re: #181 windsagio
Comparing the response in there to a lynch mob was entirely appropriate Ludwig.
No, it wasn't.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:49:23pm |
re: #184 recusancy
No, but you are surely hoping to categorize it that way.
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recusancy Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:49:57pm |
re: #186 LudwigVanQuixote
I bristle when what I say is taken out of context. Your comment is a curious hypocrisy for one of the furthest right fire breathers on LGF.
But typical of you none the less.
This is part of why no one respects you.
Seriously? You're like the child on the playground who can't think of a witty comeback.
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erik_t Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:50:24pm |
Well, this is just getting unpleasant. I'm out. Enjoy your evenings, folks.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:50:52pm |
re: #186 LudwigVanQuixote
I bristle when what I say is taken out of context. Your comment is a curious hypocrisy for one of the furthest right fire breathers on LGF.
But typical of you none the less.This is part of why no one respects you.
Really!!
Please show me a post where I have breathed fire from the "far right"
You have NO clue to what my beleifs are on a myriad of issues
Wait ,, let me amend that
You have no clue.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:51:04pm |
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:52:19pm |
re: #186 LudwigVanQuixote
I bristle when what I say is taken out of context. Your comment is a curious hypocrisy for one of the furthest right fire breathers on LGF.
But typical of you none the less.
This is part of why no one respects you.
stick to what you know...not what you want
obviously, mind reading is not your strength
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:52:29pm |
re: #182 recusancy
Actually, in a way, I can see why it might fit for a gay person to vote against gay rights. They may be voting with their pocket book (because they're rich) but they are also lowering themselves below the rest of society.
I actually know one guy-- total asshole-- who votes for the GOP, in California, even voted against Prop 8, because, although gay, he's got like a minuscule sex drive and his main pleasure is buying fancy toys and jet-ski-ing and the like.
I think he's a materialist jerk, but since he doesn't want to marry, adopt children, etc. he sees no reason to vote for gay rights. He's happy to take the societal acceptance that gays won hard-fought over generations and just sit on them.
I think he's a sad, pathetic, and selfish fucker, but I don't think "Uncle Tom" fits. He really doesn't care about the rights the gay movement is fighting for.
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wrenchwench Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:52:48pm |
re: #177 LudwigVanQuixote
I know you hate me wrench and it appeals to you to pole on me, but the more I see the nature of people like you the more I understand many of the less enjoyable aspects of dealing with the web.
You indulge a petty web spat with me because you care for that more you care for the truth. That is fine.
It just shows your true colours to all who can read. Fitting it is in a thread about Romney.
You know, I don't hate you. I hate elitism, and when you exhibit it, I start bitching at you. Last time I did it, so many other people joined in that you backed down and apologized (re: "trailer trash".)
I disagreed with a few of your other posts, but nothing that sticks in my mind right now.
I do care for the truth. I also believe in careful use of language to avoid miscommunication. You seem to think that saying,
Yes, despite constantly having to write the disclaimer that all statements about groups refer to a majority in context, I hold out the hope that one day, posters like you will come to realize that such is the structure of the English language.
means you no longer need to take care how you use the language, because everyone should understand what you mean because they should have read your disclaimer at some point.
I think you should be careful all the time.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:54:46pm |
re: #187 000G
I'm hugely surprised you feel that way. You can lead a horse to water, etc etc.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:54:59pm |
The conference planners have obliged Mr. Romney, scheduling him to speak right before Bryan Fischer, who is chief spokesman for the family association and is known for his strident remarks on homosexuality, gay rights, Muslims and Mormons. Their talks will be followed by a panel of same-sex marriage opponents.
The liberal advocacy group People for the American Way has called on the presidential candidates, and especially Mr. Romney because he will share a stage, to publicly disassociate themselves from Mr. Fischer and what it called, in a statement on Wednesday, his “unmitigated bigotry.” The Southern Poverty Law Center has made similar appeals to the candidates.
No response from the Romney Campaign as of yet.
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recusancy Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:55:13pm |
Here's some solid elitism in action
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calochortus Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:56:09pm |
re: #185 Obdicut
Yes, I think it has a lot more to do with rejecting the Victorian aesthetic than any actual aspects of the character. I could certainly criticize the portrayal of Little Eva and her dying vision of heaven as a model for modern life. The problem is lifting a character out of a very, very different time and place.
And I agree with you about the "oreo" idea being sort of odd. A lot of people have commented on the concept that being educated and successful is a "white value" that should be rejected by others.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:56:13pm |
re: #198 recusancy
Good guys those. Totally in touch with the rest of the world :P
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:57:56pm |
re: #187 000G
No, it wasn't.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Well I do have to credit you for consistency. I don't however enjoy your digs.
You are playing semantic games.
So once again, in the interests of accuracy, please make a count of how many times I have written something like the following for all the so easily offended:
I am well aware that not every (Republican, Arab, Wingnut, Moonbat etc...) believes or acts like x. However those who do not are not in the majority, do not control events and are not the ones obviously being discussed. In all cases of talking about people, the overwhelming majority that represents a group is what is meant by discussing that group.
How many times have I written something like this when people like windi or wrench start bleating on moronically about broad brushes?
Is it dozens by now?
Despite individual exceptions, it is not wrong to say that Republicans have a pronounced problem with racism or that the South has a particularly nasty history of it. It is not wrong to say that Republicans are callous to the poor, or homophobic or anti-science or anti- women's rights. Nor is it wrong to point out that the majority of the Arab world hates Jews and does not believe that they should be granted any rights to their own native land or thinks that murdering Jews in terror attacks is a particularly bad thing.
Sorry folks, the real world is knocking.
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wrenchwench Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:58:22pm |
re: #177 LudwigVanQuixote
the more I see the nature of people like you
{{Ludwig}}
You don't understand the nature of me at all.
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:58:35pm |
re: #197 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
No response from the Romney Campaign as of yet.
I hope no one is holding their breath waiting for a response.
Romney is so scared of pissing off the base, he'll smile and shake hands with Fischer and keep his mouth shut.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:58:45pm |
re: #189 recusancy
Hardly... and nothing to dispute the truth of it from you either.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:58:45pm |
re: #196 windsagio
I'm hugely surprised you feel that way. You can lead a horse to water, etc etc.
It's got nothing to do with feelings, actually. Nobody in that thread suggested anything remotely analogous to lynching a Palestinian. One gal compared the actions involved to murder, one guy snarked about the PA authorities rewarding criminal behavior.
That was it. Then you busted in and basically literally accused everyone in that thread of wanting to hang a Palestinian.
Way out of line. And that is not spoken from the gut.
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:59:12pm |
re: #198 recusancy
It's so sad. It's like the bankers who took champagne out to look down at the protesters, like they were having a show put on for them.
What can you do with selfish sociopaths? You can't really hurt them by pointing out they're terrible people; they honestly believe they're better than other people. Or they're actually just big black holes of despair and nihilism.
I feel bad for them, in a way, because I think they think they're cool.
The one absolute, throughout time, has been that the people on the bottom are the ones who define cool. Nobody gives a shit what Paris Hilton is wearing. Fashion trends get started by random punk kids in New York. New music bubbles up from inside the walls of the ghetto.
Are they the 1%? Sure. They're at the top of the economic pile.
But they'll never make anyone go wow like these broke-ass kids from the hood will:
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recusancy Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:00:00pm |
re: #202 wrenchwench
{{Ludwig}}
You don't understand the nature of me at all.
If only you had his beautiful mind.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:00:13pm |
re: #203 makeitstop
I hope no one is holding their breath waiting for a response.
Romney is so scared of pissing off the base, he'll smile and shake hands with Fischer and keep his mouth shut.
I wonder how Romney would respond if he was asked at a Town Hall what it feels like to be Bryan Fischer's bitch?
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:00:26pm |
re: #202 wrenchwench
{{Ludwig}}
You don't understand the nature of me at all.
How could any of us
We're mere mortals,,, and men to boot!
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:01:29pm |
re: #208 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I wonder how Romney would respond if he was asked at a Town Hall what it feels like to be Bryan Fischer's bitch?
I'd pay good money to see that.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:02:36pm |
re: #175 Obdicut
Frankly, I feel the same way about Tavis Smiley and Cornell West at this point...
As a matter of fact, one of the reasons I favor Pres. Obama is because of the way he handles race in this country.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:02:39pm |
re: #210 makeitstop
I'd pay good money to see that.
"Sorry, I couldn't understand you, maybe you can take his dick out of your mouth before answering."
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:04:18pm |
re: #201 LudwigVanQuixote
I am well aware that not every (Republican, Arab, Wingnut, Moonbat etc...) believes or acts like x. However those who do not are not in the majority, do not control events and are not the ones obviously being discussed. In all cases of talking about people, the overwhelming majority that represents a group is what is meant by discussing that group.
So basically you are okay with the minority of a group always taking the hits for what the majority stands out for?
Do you understand the difference in meaning between the following statements?:
Arabs like falafel.
The Arabs like falafel.
Some Arabs like falafel.
A majority of Arabs like falafel.
Despite individual exceptions,
Which you chose to ignore and subsequently imply as being insignificant.
You want to deal with the real world? You should learn to describe it more accurately.
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laZardo Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:04:28pm |
G'dafternoon folks. Went out to get some cereal, ended up visiting Occupy Seattle's tent city just as the permit ran out.
Gonna post photos in a moment.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:05:17pm |
re: #214 laZardo
G'dafternoon folks. Went out to get some cereal, ended up visiting Occupy Seattle's tent city just as the permit ran out.
Gonna post photos in a moment.
Did THEY have cereal!?!?
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:05:18pm |
re: #195 wrenchwench
You know, I don't hate you. I hate elitism, and when you exhibit it, I start bitching at you. Last time I did it, so many other people joined in that you backed down and apologized (re: "trailer trash".)
And I hate ignorant people like you, derailing perfectly clear points just to feel intellectually equal to those they are not. And no, I backed down because I was wrong in that context to use the phrase. If you honestly think that you changed my mind on the basis of popularity with you or those like you, you are fooling yourself. Your opinions really don't mean anything to me. When you post facts or make meaningful contributions, I care about them on a case by case basis.
I disagreed with a few of your other posts, but nothing that sticks in my mind right now.
I'm sure you will think of something. I mean you just did up above.
I do care for the truth. I also believe in careful use of language to avoid miscommunication. You seem to think that saying, means you no longer need to take care how you use the language, because everyone should understand what you mean because they should have read your disclaimer at some point.
I seem to think that you should learn to speak the same English that every other American does with the same social queues and understandings involved.
I think you should be careful all the time.
And I think you are revelling in discord that you did not need to become involved in out of vainglorious personal spite.
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:05:20pm |
re: #214 laZardo
G'dafternoon folks. Went out to get some cereal, ended up visiting Occupy Seattle's tent city just as the permit ran out.
Gonna post photos in a moment.
oh I wanna see that!
Occupy Portland, afaik, has decided not to get a permit at all... it'll be interesting Thursday.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:06:28pm |
re: #217 windsagio
oh I wanna see that!
Occupy Portland, afaik, has decided not to get a permit at all... it'll be interesting Thursday.
Wait--Portland isn't occupied?
The last time I was in Pioneer Courthouse Square, it sure looked like it...JK.
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wrenchwench Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:06:35pm |
re: #207 recusancy
If only you had his beautiful mind.
Actually, I did. I threw it away to hang out with my friends.
Three of my siblings have PhDs. Some of my family are in Mensa. Still, they don't act like elitists (usually).
I'm a bike mechanic. I got greasy up to my elbows twice today. I could have been a scientist, but the people who were in those "gifted" classes they sent me to were not people I liked, and really, they weren't much smarter than people who were told they should take the vocational track.
I hate elitism.
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wrenchwench Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:07:19pm |
re: #216 LudwigVanQuixote
You want me to hate you?
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laZardo Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:08:39pm |
re: #217 windsagio
A couple people already cleared out their tents. A human chain formed around one of them and if I recall there was a girl that actually decided to stay in her tent. There was a cop going in to negotiate her to come out, in the meantime a bunch of others formed a human chain around it.
Couldn't get good photos of that though, the only thing tighter than that was the circle of other folks trying to get photos. XD
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:09:07pm |
re: #217 windsagio
oh I wanna see that!
Occupy Portland, afaik, has decided not to get a permit at all... it'll be interesting Thursday.
Oh, yeah, and I'm pretty sure that since you don't have any middle schoolers hanging around, you don't buy and read the Rick Riordan books.
The books are pretty formulaic, but fun. A trio or duo of kids have to trek across the US, against impossible odds, to fight evil gods and save the day. More or less. Portland finally got a mention in the latest book. The food cart square got its due.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:11:12pm |
re: #220 wrenchwench
You want me to hate you?
Well,,, so many that do aren't here anymore ,, SO,,, he "needs" to have others that do to sustain the "you're not smart enough to have this conversation with me" screed
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laZardo Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:11:24pm |
re: #223 wrenchwench
Back to the inanimate bikes.
There was a police van parked at the curb nearby, but most of the cops that came were bicycle cops.
The whole time I was all o_O
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bratwurst Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:12:36pm |
Years ago I got a call from Air Reno pleasantly informing me that my flight Thanksgiving morning had, due to a schedule change, been re-booked for that EVENING...making it impossible for me to attend the dinner that was the reason for the trip in the first place. When I blew a gasket, they put me on hold to cool off listening to this song. Since it helped me collect my thoughts then, I naturally think if it every time I am exposed to ruffled feathers. Hope it helps someone here today:
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:13:31pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:14:41pm |
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:15:29pm |
re: #224 EmmmieG
I'd probably greatly enjoy them.
Right now I'm reading P.G. Wodenhouse (Victorian/Edwardian era stories about British Private Schools and such).
I love young adult literature!
...
(insert joke here)
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:16:03pm |
re: #220 wrenchwench
You want me to hate you?
You are slow off the mark. I do not care if you hate me or not.
I thought I wrote that in clear English.
You are the sort of person who conveniently ignores deaths of people I know and love to make a silly dig at a true statement in context.
You are the sort to deny the horrible history of Southern racism for the same reasons.
This makes you despicable and dishonest. It shows a lack of honor and intellectual integrity as well as a smug sense of unfounded superiority on your part.
You think I am elitist and it rankles you.
I think you are ignorant and out of your depth trying to bolster yourself by being horrible. I do not like you at all. I haven't in a very long time.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:16:43pm |
Iowa Woman Miscarries After Listeria Infection From Cantaloupe
So according to Bachmann and her supporters, would this be God's plan and a shining example of why we don't need to regulate the food industry or would the farm which produced the tainted food be responsible for the miscarriage and be held liable for murder?
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windsagio Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:17:40pm |
re: #231 LudwigVanQuixote
dude I know its partially my fault, and I'm sorry for getting this going...
But you're obviously really upset and might wanna take a walk around the block or something.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:18:26pm |
re: #219 wrenchwench
Actually, I did. I threw it away to hang out with my friends.
Three of my siblings have PhDs. Some of my family are in Mensa. Still, they don't act like elitists (usually).
I'm a bike mechanic. I got greasy up to my elbows twice today. I could have been a scientist, but the people who were in those "gifted" classes they sent me to were not people I liked, and really, they weren't much smarter than people who were told they should take the vocational track.
I hate elitism.
So in other words, you are jealous because you could not cut it, feel inferior to your more accomplished siblings, and have an axe to grind. It was obvious for some time, but I appreciate you pointing it out.
It makes you more understandable.
If you manage to keep that away from things that diminish the deaths of people or racism in America, I will be able to tolerate you more.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:18:30pm |
re: #234 windsagio
dude I know its partially my fault, and I'm sorry for getting this going...
But you're obviously really upset and might wanna take a walk around the
blockstate or something.
(takes longer}
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:18:37pm |
Breaking News: Sarah Palin Will Not Run for President of the United States in 2012
Shocking.
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:19:37pm |
re: #237 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Breaking News: Sarah Palin Will Not Run for President of the United States in 2012
Shocking.
After that Nicolle Wallace story this afternoon, I'm thinking she's not going to run for anything ever again.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:19:45pm |
re: #237 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Breaking News: Sarah Palin Will Not Run for President of the United States in 2012
Shocking.
Hahaha
Delicious wingnut tears!
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:20:58pm |
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The Ghost of a Flea Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:21:53pm |
re: #237 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Breaking News: Sarah Palin Will Not Run for President of the United States in 2012
Shocking.
Of course not. The profit margin lies in teasing, but not committing to anything that requires financial disclosure.
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allegro Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:23:19pm |
re: #241 The Ghost of a Flea
She hasn't even finished her vacation yet. Certainly that jury duty is done by now.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:24:53pm |
Her letter to supporters
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sattv4u2 Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:25:32pm |
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:26:31pm |
re: #237 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
"Shocking."
That she decided not to run or that she decided there was more money to be made on the speaking circuit?
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calochortus Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:26:39pm |
re: #243 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I wonder how long she can keep the money coming in?
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:26:46pm |
re: #243 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Her letter to supporters
Drudge links the Mark Levin show.
Levin reads the letter.
And then immediately following that has her on live.
She couldn't read her own letter on his show?
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:28:28pm |
re: #235 LudwigVanQuixote
So in other words, you are jealous because you could not cut it, feel inferior to your more accomplished siblings, and have an axe to grind. It was obvious for some time, but I appreciate you pointing it out.
It makes you more understandable.
If you manage to keep that away from things that diminish the deaths of people or racism in America, I will be able to tolerate you more.
hilarious!...way to miss the point entirely
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:28:32pm |
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darthstar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:28:34pm |
re: #243 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Her letter to supporters
That also means she won't be working at Fox much longer.
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The Ghost of a Flea Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:29:16pm |
re: #247 calochortus
I wonder how long she can keep the money coming in?
I thinking she's shooting for the Gingrich business model. Paid speaking events, books, and a nonprofit PAC-type organization that pays for her plane trips, luxury hotel rooms, et cetera...
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darthstar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:30:42pm |
re: #248 000G
And then immediately following that has her on live.
She couldn't read her own letter on his show?
The show's only an hour long. That would take up too much time.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:30:59pm |
re: #213 000G
Because it tires me to constantly rewrite over and over, I will cut and paste two things:
However those who do not are not in the majority, do not control events and are not the ones obviously being discussed.
and
I seem to think that you should learn to speak the same English that every other American does with the same social queues and understandings involved.
Now I have already given you what you wanted and amended a statement that everyone else on that thread understood, and that you brought out of context to start this mess.
Through none of it though, have you said anything to address the underlying truth of the matter or the very real world deaths involved. I am very disinterested in you or your games at this point.
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calochortus Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:31:40pm |
re: #252 The Ghost of a Flea
I thinking she's shooting for the Gingrich business model. Paid speaking events, books, and a nonprofit PAC-type organization that pays for her plane trips, luxury hotel rooms, et cetera...
Yes, but she is sorely disappointing many of her supporters and I wonder if the audiences will be out there for her. What relevance does she have? (Yup, I know, was she ever relevant. But what relevance does she have for the right if she isn't running?)
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:32:22pm |
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:32:29pm |
re: #254 LudwigVanQuixote
And I am disinterested in your petty unwillingness to learn.
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calochortus Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:34:27pm |
The wingnuts seem to think Palin not running is good news for Cain... Let's see how long Cain's good numbers last. Will he last as long as Perry? Bachman?
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:34:48pm |
re: #255 calochortus
Yes, but she is sorely disappointing many of her supporters and I wonder if the audiences will be out there for her. What relevance does she have? (Yup, I know, was she ever relevant. But what relevance does she have for the right if she isn't running?)
she's an author, a movie star and all around brainless AmIdol twit....hence her relevance
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laZardo Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:35:04pm |
Photos are up, gonna caption them then link 'em before I eat lunch.
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:35:18pm |
re: #255 calochortus
Yes, but she is sorely disappointing many of her supporters and I wonder if the audiences will be out there for her. What relevance does she have? (Yup, I know, was she ever relevant. But what relevance does she have for the right if she isn't running?)
That gravy train sailed a few weeks ago (I like mixing metaphors.)
Her approval ratings were already in the tank by mid-summer. I think the aborted bus tour was a big clue that she wasn't the least bit serious about running for office.
And after this story, I don't think anyone is going to be asking her to run for anything.
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darthstar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:35:22pm |
re: #258 calochortus
The wingnuts seem to think Palin not running is good news for Cain... Let's see how long Cain's good numbers last. Will he last as long as Perry? Bachman?
Or, as Sarah Palin likes to call him, the flavor of the week.
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:36:18pm |
re: #262 darthstar
Or, as Sarah Palin likes to call him, the flavor of the week.
Or 'Herb' for short. :)
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:36:26pm |
re: #260 laZardo
Photos are up, gonna caption them then link 'em before I eat lunch.
You're in the same time zone I am. At 3:30, you are eating what Hobbitses would refer to as "third lunch."
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:36:33pm |
re: #260 laZardo
Photos are up, gonna caption them then link 'em before I eat lunch.
Page or an external link?
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darthstar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:37:18pm |
re: #263 makeitstop
Or 'Herb' for short. :)
Yeah...he's probably dying for her endorsement. She probably thinks Cain is short for McCain and is trying to be loyal to her ex running mate.
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Digital Display Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:37:22pm |
The Hoopster comes out of the foxhole..Removes his helmet..
Really? Really? We can't disagree on the board without insults to each other..
Really? I am deeply disappointed in the tone tonight...
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Cheechako Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:37:55pm |
Now, if Sara and Todd would move to Arizona it would be a really great day!
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calochortus Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:38:04pm |
re: #259 albusteve
she's an author, a movie star and all around brainless AmIdol twit...hence her relevance
But the public is fickle...
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The Ghost of a Flea Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:38:16pm |
re: #255 calochortus
Yes, but she is sorely disappointing many of her supporters and I wonder if the audiences will be out there for her. What relevance does she have? (Yup, I know, was she ever relevant. But what relevance does she have for the right if she isn't running?)
I'm not sure she'll succeed, just that's she's trying. I suspect she's going to try and build a market around the "Esther" and socon image.
Then again, Consider that Newt's setup isn't exactly high profile--it's old school direct mail soliciting plus some web and keeping up just a bit of public profile--so she may sink below the attention of the media and still repeat a profit.
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darthstar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:38:39pm |
re: #268 Cheechako
Now, if Sara and Todd would move to Arizona it would be a really great day!
That'll happen soon. She wants McCain's Senate seat.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:39:27pm |
re: #269 calochortus
But the public is fickle...
The Public has ADD. The fact that our media functions like a Chuck E Cheese on crack doesn't help any.
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calochortus Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:39:38pm |
re: #268 Cheechako
Now, if Sara and Todd would move to Arizona it would be a really great day!
For Alaskans?
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:39:59pm |
re: #271 darthstar
That'll happen soon. She wants McCain's Senate seat.
"I've always loved AZ, the Redwood State"
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:40:11pm |
re: #63 recusancy
Not a fan of that or the uncle tom term. Even for someone like Cain.
Not my business to tell someone he's an Oreo. Even if I'm pretty sure he is, I am not someone who has any business telling anyone how to be black. On account of I'm not black.
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:40:20pm |
re: #267 HoosierHoops
I am deeply disappointed in the tone tonight...
Everybody seems deeply disappointed with something around here today.
I personally think everybody should take a couple of deep breaths.
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laZardo Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:40:20pm |
re: #265 Bubblehead II
External link to an archive. Too many to fit on one page.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:41:07pm |
re: #276 makeitstop
Everybody seems deeply disappointed with something around here today.
I personally think everybody should take a couple of deep breaths.
it's an old gig....we're all used to it
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:41:45pm |
re: #267 HoosierHoops
Racism, Bigotry, Religion and Politics. Seems to bring out the worst in people. Been kinda toxic here most of the day.
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bratwurst Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:41:49pm |
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Obdicut Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:42:03pm |
re: #276 makeitstop
I just tried and I coughed and now I'm going to have more cough medicine.
So I'll be juuust fine.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:42:29pm |
re: #64 windsagio
It has a very definite meaning that is hard to express otherwise, so I'm pretty okay with it.
Only problem is that it doesn't remotely reflect the actual character of Uncle Tom.
This is true. Uncle Tom is a heroic man who had the great misfortune of being written by, well, Harriet Beecher Stowe.
God bless the woman, her intentions were good, but Victorian melodrama has not aged particularly well.
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:42:49pm |
re: #278 albusteve
it's an old gig...we're all used to it
Odd. I'm starting to get used to it myself, even though I've only seen it a couple of times since signing up here.
Kinda hard to look away the first few times, I guess.
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Cheechako Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:42:55pm |
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:43:06pm |
re: #257 000G
And I am disinterested in your petty unwillingness to learn.
Learn...
learn...
I know people whose children were blown into small chunks by Arab violence. I have friends who stand nights on watch around their homes because if they don't, their children will be murdered.
And you lecture me about learning, when you know full well that this is the reality that obtains in the Middle East and that the majority of Arabs there cheer for those deaths and dance in the streets when it happens.
How dare you?
Is the unearned feeling of intellectual superiority that important to you? It isn't that you discount the deaths or the cries of parents who lost their children because you hate Jewish people or because you are ignorant of the facts.
It's just that you are being a smug prig.
That really sucks. And to what end? To feel ohh so smart on the web?
In the real world, the day you have a damn thing to teach me is the day I took a serious head injury. But so what? This is the web. The only thing that matters is the truth of the information given. All you are doing is parsing and playing word games for you own enjoyment and at the expense of people who are dying. Of course you don't feel a hint of shame at that.
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Varek Raith Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:43:46pm |
Sarah Palin will not run for president
I'm utterly shocked!
Wait, no, I'm not.
:P
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:44:24pm |
re: #283 makeitstop
Odd. I'm starting to get used to it myself, even though I've only seen it a couple of times since signing up here.
Kinda hard to look away the first few times, I guess.
see what I mean?
same old shit
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:44:47pm |
re: #282 SanFranciscoZionist
This is true. Uncle Tom is a heroic man who had the great misfortune of being written by, well, Harriet Beecher Stowe.
God bless the woman, her intentions were good, but Victorian melodrama has not aged particularly well.
BUT...that book had the effect that she desired, namely, to make lots and lots of Americans aware of the pains and sufferings of enslaved Americans. This was important.
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engineer cat Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:45:37pm |
How To Completely Miss The Point, Lesson LXVII
Gingrich: GOP isn't racist
Don’t say the Republican Party doesn’t appeal to minorities, Newt Gingrich says.
“How do you have a press conference with Michael Steele and say, ‘Why are you a racist?’” Gingrich said here, citing the former RNC chairman. “You can't attack our team as being racist with Herman Cain running a campaign.”
yes i can
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:46:39pm |
re: #285 LudwigVanQuixote
All this tantrum throwing and deflection just because you can't admit to the fact that your statement was bigotted?
Wow. Still disinterested, though.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:47:04pm |
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calochortus Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:47:36pm |
re: #288 EmmmieG
It was appropriate for its time. It hasn't aged well.
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allegro Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:48:56pm |
re: #289 engineer dog
How To Completely Miss The Point, Lesson LXVII
Gingrich: GOP isn't racist
Don’t say the Republican Party doesn’t appeal to minorities, Newt Gingrich says.
“How do you have a press conference with Michael Steele and say, ‘Why are you a racist?’” Gingrich said here, citing the former RNC chairman. “You can't attack our team as being racist with Herman Cain running a campaign.”
yes i can
Quite a succinct explanation of why Steele and Cain have been embraced - temporarily at least - by the GOP. Cover.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:49:49pm |
re: #292 calochortus
It was appropriate for its time. It hasn't aged well.
That's the genius of a truly great writer, like Jane Austen.
She wrote during the Napoleonic era. 200 years ago. Yet, we still feel like Lizzy Bennett could be our friend.
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Digital Display Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:49:57pm |
re: #279 Bubblehead II
Racism, Bigotry, Religion and Politics. Seems to bring out the worst in people. Been kinda toxic here most of the day.
Hi You! Those are great topics on Blogs...I enjoy posting about my views...
When we insult other people we bring toxic words to the board.. I think it's great to disagree.. Hell I learn so much from other lizards...
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Varek Raith Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:51:06pm |
re: #295 HoosierHoops
Hi You! Those are great topics on Blogs...I enjoy posting about my views...
When we insult other people we bring toxic words to the board.. I think it's great to disagree.. Hell I learn so much from other lizards...
Jerk.
:P
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:51:06pm |
re: #290 000G
All this tantrum throwing and deflection just because you can't admit to the fact that your statement was bigotted?
Wow. Still disinterested, though.
And calling a true statement of ugly realities bigoted so as to discredit it is bigoted. And no that is not a tantrum. You can imagine it is one if that helps you ignore the truth, but it does not help your intellectual honesty one bit.
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calochortus Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:51:28pm |
re: #294 EmmmieG
Absolutely. I think an awful lot of Victoriana has not aged well. Dickens being an exception.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:51:30pm |
re: #292 calochortus
It was appropriate for its time. It hasn't aged well.
I remember Little Black Sambo...the actual book, and it was not racist but it's time ended because white people pimped Sambo as derogatory
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:52:13pm |
re: #65 LudwigVanQuixote
Apocrypha is literally hidden writing. In context, it is stuff that is recognized to some extent, but not considered cannon.
The book of Esther is full on Jewish cannon. It is not apocrypha.
canon: part of a recognized body of literature
cannon: a really, really big gun
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:52:13pm |
re: #298 calochortus
Absolutely. I think an awful lot of Victoriana has not aged well. Dickens being an exception.
Twain still reverberates.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:52:37pm |
re: #289 engineer dog
How To Completely Miss The Point, Lesson LXVII
Gingrich: GOP isn't racist
Don’t say the Republican Party doesn’t appeal to minorities, Newt Gingrich says.
“How do you have a press conference with Michael Steele and say, ‘Why are you a racist?’” Gingrich said here, citing the former RNC chairman. “You can't attack our team as being racist with Herman Cain running a campaign.”
yes i can
But but isn't calling the GOP inherently racist an overly broad brush that will offend people here?
Well only those with axes to grind.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:52:47pm |
re: #161 darthstar
Does anyone else feel the love in here or is it just me?
Oh, it's DEFINATELY just you.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:52:51pm |
re: #300 Alouette
canon: part of a recognized body of literature
cannon: a really, really big gun
In terms of a scriptural argument, not much difference.
Bada boom. Thank you, I'll be here all week.
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calochortus Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:52:54pm |
re: #299 albusteve
I remember Little Black Sambo...the actual book, and it was not racist but it's time ended because white people pimped Sambo as derogatory
I agree. And I remember my surprise as a young adult when I learned "black Sambo" was Indian, not African...
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:52:56pm |
re: #300 Alouette
canon: part of a recognized body of literature
cannon: a really, really big gun
Yep. You are right. I was wrong.
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:53:17pm |
re: #213 000G
Arabs like falafel.
The Arabs like falafel.
Some Arabs like falafel.
A majority of Arabs like falafel.
I like falafel.
Therefore, I must be an Arab.
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Digital Display Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:53:24pm |
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Varek Raith Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:53:33pm |
re: #304 EmmmieG
In terms of a scriptural argument, not much difference.
Bada boom. Thank you, I'll be here all week.
*Insert Kif sigh here*
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:54:29pm |
re: #184 recusancy
Am I watching an emotional breakdown live on the web?
No, no, it's just Wednesday afternoon.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:54:36pm |
re: #293 allegro
Quite a succinct explanation of why Steele and Cain have been embraced - temporarily at least - by the GOP. Cover.
But weren't you just two posts ago being harsh on broad brushes? Do you see yourself?
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calochortus Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:54:43pm |
re: #301 EmmmieG
Twain still reverberates.
True. Oddly, I don't really think of Twain as Victorian despite the fact that he was-at least chronologically. His outlook seems far more modern.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:55:22pm |
re: #305 calochortus
I agree. And I remember my surprise as a young adult when I learned "black Sambo" was Indian, not African...
that was another story...same result tho
from wiki
The word gained prominence[citation needed] through the children's book Little Black Sambo by Helen Bannerman, in 1899. It was the story of a boy named Sambo who outwitted a group of hungry tigers. Bannerman also wrote Little Black Mingo, Little Black Quasha, and Little Black Quibba. One recent edition has renamed the book The Story of Little Babaji.[citation needed] In this book, Sambo is the name of a South Indian boy, and the author was not aware of the racial African meaning at the time the book was written.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 3:58:23pm |
re: #217 windsagio
oh I wanna see that!
Occupy Portland, afaik, has decided not to get a permit at all... it'll be interesting Thursday.
Code Pink has sent me a long list of shit they want in the San Francisco encampment. 101 Market Street, if anyone wants to go by.
I'm not buying them local honey, sustainable environment-friendly bleach, or sticks for signs. But if you have some, they want that. Along with, well, a lot of other stuff.
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Digital Display Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:01:46pm |
re: #311 SanFranciscoZionist
No, no, it's just Wednesday afternoon.
Hi you! Hope you are well..It was an absolutely beautiful day today in Oklahoma ( You won't see that line often ) Winston loved playing outin the field..How was the weather today for you? You know Winston has never been to Napa? We are going home Thanksgiving at my Pops in Yountville..
He is going to have a blast...Plus my kids have only seen pictures of him...
Jeez..I miss the kids...
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:01:50pm |
re: #266 darthstar
Yeah...he's probably dying for her endorsement. She probably thinks Cain is short for McCain and is trying to be loyal to her ex running mate.
Eh, I have trouble not calling Cain "McCain". Which is really a bit of an insult to poor McCain, who is not quite as much of a train wreck as 'Herb'.
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laZardo Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:02:08pm |
re: #315 SanFranciscoZionist
Code Pink has sent me a long list of shit they want in the San Francisco encampment. 101 Market Street, if anyone wants to go by.
I'm not buying them local honey, sustainable environment-friendly bleach, or sticks for signs. But if you have some, they want that. Along with, well, a lot of other stuff.
I got OS some extra garbage bags for when they were cleaning up.
...yeah. :B
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:02:50pm |
re: #279 Bubblehead II
Racism, Bigotry, Religion and Politics. Seems to bring out the worst in people. Been kinda toxic here most of the day.
We have a divisive issue again. It's been a while.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:02:59pm |
re: #312 LudwigVanQuixote
But weren't you just two posts ago being harsh on broad brushes? Do you see yourself?
quit pleading...it's unbecoming
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darthstar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:04:06pm |
re: #317 SanFranciscoZionist
Eh, I have trouble not calling Cain "McCain". Which is really a bit of an insult to poor McCain, who is not quite as much of a train wreck as 'Herb'.
Apparently, Cain's still upset over that "flavor of the week" comment...CNN is trying to make Sarah's indecision news right now.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:04:22pm |
re: #283 makeitstop
Odd. I'm starting to get used to it myself, even though I've only seen it a couple of times since signing up here.
Kinda hard to look away the first few times, I guess.
You'll get the hang of it.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:04:40pm |
re: #227 bratwurst
Years ago I got a call from Air Reno pleasantly informing me that my flight Thanksgiving morning had, due to a schedule change, been re-booked for that EVENING...making it impossible for me to attend the dinner that was the reason for the trip in the first place. When I blew a gasket, they put me on hold to cool off listening to this song. Since it helped me collect my thoughts then, I naturally think if it every time I am exposed to ruffled feathers. Hope it helps someone here today:
[Video]
Heh. In Junior High, as part of a city arranged thing, I did an interview with him for our school newspaper. Totally stoned off his ass. Was still some decent horn blowing, but still but man he was up there with the 747's.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:04:59pm |
re: #316 HoosierHoops
Hi you! Hope you are well..It was an absolutely beautiful day today in Oklahoma ( You won't see that line often ) Winston loved playing outin the field..How was the weather today for you? You know Winston has never been to Napa? We are going home Thanksgiving at my Pops in Yountville..
He is going to have a blast...Plus my kids have only seen pictures of him...
Jeez..I miss the kids...
miss the kids? man, tell me about it...I've been too messed up to travel for over three years now....heading north tho in a week or so, by car
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:05:55pm |
re: #315 SanFranciscoZionist
Code Pink has sent me a long list of shit they want in the San Francisco encampment. 101 Market Street, if anyone wants to go by.
I'm not buying them local honey, sustainable environment-friendly bleach, or sticks for signs. But if you have some, they want that. Along with, well, a lot of other stuff.
Who do they think they are, Van Halen?
Anything about brown M&Ms in that rider?
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:06:03pm |
re: #288 EmmmieG
BUT...that book had the effect that she desired, namely, to make lots and lots of Americans aware of the pains and sufferings of enslaved Americans. This was important.
Sure. Historically speaking, it's an enormously important book.
As a book--my favorite version will always be the one acted out in "The King And I".
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:06:31pm |
re: #292 calochortus
It was appropriate for its time. It hasn't aged well.
It did what it needed to do.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:06:36pm |
re: #289 engineer dog
How To Completely Miss The Point, Lesson LXVII
Gingrich: GOP isn't racist
Don’t say the Republican Party doesn’t appeal to minorities, Newt Gingrich says.
“How do you have a press conference with Michael Steele and say, ‘Why are you a racist?’” Gingrich said here, citing the former RNC chairman. “You can't attack our team as being racist with Herman Cain running a campaign.”
yes i can
And 00G you dinged that up... Is there some reason you are not demanding an acknowledgement that all GOPers are not racist, just most of them?
Why haven't you?
Aren't you going to teach engineer dog the same lessons you want to teach me about English?
Why not?
Could it be that your understanding of (and offence at) standard English is selective and you are simply playing parsing games like you have all along?
I really don't want to hear anything more from you or hypocrisy from you on this matter ever again. If you manage that, we won't have any spats.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:07:44pm |
re: #320 albusteve
quit pleading...it's unbecoming
Not pleading Stevo, simply pointing out hypocrisy that can't even wait two posts to be outed.
Care to address that?
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darthstar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:07:46pm |
Rick Perry first to praise Sarah's decision and kiss her ass for some teabag support.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:07:50pm |
re: #294 EmmmieG
That's the genius of a truly great writer, like Jane Austen.
She wrote during the Napoleonic era. 200 years ago. Yet, we still feel like Lizzy Bennett could be our friend.
Well, if you even contrast Huckleberry Finn and Uncle Tom's Cabin...same era, similar setting, some similar themes--and yet...
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:08:28pm |
re: #299 albusteve
I remember Little Black Sambo...the actual book, and it was not racist but it's time ended because white people pimped Sambo as derogatory
There's actually a new version of the book out, with different pictures but the same text. And it's delightful. The story itself is lovely.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:09:20pm |
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darthstar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:09:40pm |
re: #328 LudwigVanQuixote
And 00G you dinged that up... Is there some reason you are not demanding an acknowledgement that all GOPers are not racist, just most of them?
I like you, Lude...but you're starting to get a bit obsessive here.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:10:12pm |
re: #329 LudwigVanQuixote
Not pleading Stevo, simply pointing out hypocrisy that can't even wait two posts to be outed.
Care to address that?
not at all...but I'm willing to address your shitty attitude whenever you like, but before you do go look in a mirror at the scars I've already given you...I think you're spent for now
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zora Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:10:12pm |
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calochortus Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:10:18pm |
I guess I'd better go do something constructive.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:11:24pm |
re: #308 Alouette
I like falafel.
Therefore, I must be an Arab.
All Semites like felafel.
Even some anti-Semites like felafel.
However, there are people who will not eat felafel.
Discuss.
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:11:34pm |
I just got to the end of this train wreck of a thread.
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Digital Display Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:11:43pm |
re: #324 albusteve
miss the kids? man, tell me about it...I've been too messed up to travel for over three years now...heading north tho in a week or so, by car
California is Home.. I need to get back more often...
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:12:02pm |
re: #338 SanFranciscoZionist
All Semites like felafel.
Even some anti-Semites like felafel.
However, there are people who will not eat felafel.
Discuss.
Anti-Semite is not the opposite of Semite.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:12:11pm |
re: #325 makeitstop
Who do they think they are, Van Halen?
Anything about brown M&Ms in that rider?
/
I read something a while back that was very interesting. The point of the brown m'n'm's was to check if their contract was read. If they got into the dressing room, and the m'n'm's were there as specified, they could be sure the rest was in line.
If the m'n'm's weren't there, the rest probably hadn't been read, either.
Not sure if it's true, but interesting to think about.
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:13:06pm |
re: #342 EmmmieG
I read something a while back that was very interesting. The point of the brown m'n'm's was to check if their contract was read. If they got into the dressing room, and the m'n'm's were there as specified, they could be sure the rest was in line.
If the m'n'm's weren't there, the rest probably hadn't been read, either.
Not sure if it's true, but interesting to think about.
I've heard the same thing, so we can verify it. :)
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:13:36pm |
re: #316 HoosierHoops
Hi you! Hope you are well..It was an absolutely beautiful day today in Oklahoma ( You won't see that line often ) Winston loved playing outin the field..How was the weather today for you? You know Winston has never been to Napa? We are going home Thanksgiving at my Pops in Yountville..
He is going to have a blast...Plus my kids have only seen pictures of him...
Jeez..I miss the kids...
Awww...you absolutely have to show Winston Napa!
Have a great time.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:13:54pm |
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:14:12pm |
Apparently, World Nut Daily is saying that NATO is prepping from war in Syria.
They are bugshit crazy. Turkey could wreck al-Assad with one hand behind its back.
In other news, it seems the Battle of Sirte may be nearing an end.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:14:27pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:14:31pm |
re: #325 makeitstop
Who do they think they are, Van Halen?
Anything about brown M&Ms in that rider?
/
No, but they want a 'wide assortment of spices'. I'm not sure if that's code for what I think it's code for.
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darthstar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:15:05pm |
re: #343 Varek Raith
Felafel is yummy.
I'm not anti-felafel, of cous-cous. But I do find using it for sexual pleasure like Bill O'Reilly does to be somewhat tabouleh.
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Varek Raith Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:15:25pm |
re: #348 EmmmieG
I don't like felafels. I do like latkes.
I must be Jewish.
I like most foods.
Except British.
Boil it and boil it some more not a cook makes.
:P
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:15:45pm |
re: #285 LudwigVanQuixote
"I have friends who stand nights on witch watch around their homes because if they don't their children will be murdered."
Yawn. In other parts of the World, they have other people to watch out for.
You know, like the drug cartels that will kill you if you and/or your Family speak out against them. They also mount night watches to insure the safety of their Families/Villages.
Israel isn't unique in this regard.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:16:10pm |
re: #341 Alouette
Anti-Semite is not the opposite of Semite.
Indeed!
(I keep trying to explain this to some of the crazier people I meet on Facebook.)
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:16:13pm |
re: #340 HoosierHoops
California is Home.. I need to get back more often...
yeah you do Mr Corporate Big Dog...go see your peeps then come tell me how cool it was....it's good for everybody...I used to just hop a plane whenever I wanted to, then all that changed...meanwhile I'll drop down to Norman in a week or so and teach Winston how to piss on a fire hydrant
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:16:21pm |
re: #349 SanFranciscoZionist
No, but they want a 'wide assortment of spices'. I'm not sure if that's code for what I think it's code for.
I'm guessing they probably bring their own supplies of that particular 'spice.' Or consume it all before they get there.
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Wozza Matter? Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:16:35pm |
re: #351 Varek Raith
I like most foods.
Except British.
Boil it and boil it some more not a cook makes.
:P
Hey.
That hurts where my heart should be.
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Varek Raith Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:17:20pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:17:24pm |
re: #347 ProLifeLiberal
Apparently, World Nut Daily is saying that NATO is prepping from war in Syria.
God, are they crazy. Turkey could wreck al-Assad with one hand behind its back.
In other news, it seems the Battle of Sirte may be nearing an end.
Assad has gotten nervous enough to pull the 'I'll shoot at Israel if you fuck with me!!' card.
Oddly enough, these days, I'm not sure that will slow the Turks down.
(wry, nervous grin)
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:17:44pm |
re: #351 Varek Raith
I like most foods.
Except British.
Boil it and boil it some more not a cook makes.
:P
That's Irish. Boiled potato and boiled corn beef.
The British just bake everything, including things that ought not be for human consumption. (Thinking black pudding here.)
Then, when they're out of other ideas, they name their foods things they had to have thought up while drunk. (Spotted Dick, Bubble and Squeak.)
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:18:03pm |
re: #348 EmmmieG
I don't like felafels. I do like latkes.
I must be Jewish.
if it's not Beef-O-Roni, I ain't eatin it
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:18:11pm |
re: #338 SanFranciscoZionist
However, there are people who will not eat felafel.
Perhaps they're under the impression that falafel = loofa.
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Varek Raith Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:18:12pm |
re: #358 SanFranciscoZionist
Assad has gotten nervous enough to pull the 'I'll shoot at Israel if you fuck with me!!' card.
Oddly enough, these days, I'm not sure that will slow the Turks down.
(wry, nervous grin)
He's playing with fire and he knows it.
He's just completely desperate.
Which, makes him reckless.
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:18:44pm |
re: #319 SanFranciscoZionist
Seems like we have one every other day. But then again, I don't get on every day. Have to keep my Corporate Master happy by being productive.
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:19:03pm |
re: #362 Varek Raith
Just let Turkey "play" with Syria. I don't think they would need any help.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:19:21pm |
Oh thank heavens for the French, Italians and the Mexicans.
Oh, yeah, and the Chinese in San Francisco.
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Varek Raith Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:19:36pm |
re: #359 EmmmieG
That's Irish. Boiled potato and boiled corn beef.
The British just bake everything, including things that ought not be for human consumption. (Thinking black pudding here.)
Then, when they're out of other ideas, they name their foods things they had to have thought up while drunk. (Spotted Dick, Bubble and Squeak.)
Heh.
I stand corrected.
Silly Brits and Irish.
/
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:20:18pm |
re: #358 SanFranciscoZionist
Assad has gotten nervous enough to pull the 'I'll shoot at Israel if you fuck with me!!' card.
Oddly enough, these days, I'm not sure that will slow the Turks down.
(wry, nervous grin)
the IDF would accept aggression from Syria as a gift from G-d
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:22:02pm |
re: #362 Varek Raith
He's playing with fire and he knows it.
He's just completely desperate.
Which, makes him reckless.
yuppers...that's rule number one
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engineer cat Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:23:26pm |
re: #351 Varek Raith
I like most foods.
Except British.
Boil it and boil it some more not a cook makes.
:P
i dunno about home cooking, but restaurant food in the bwitish isles is vastly improved these days
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:23:54pm |
re: #334 darthstar
I like you, Lude...but you're starting to get a bit obsessive here.
No I'm done with it for now. I made the point - or better put the "ohh so easily offended" made the point for me more eloquently than I could.
Contrary to the narratives that some have, I am not even particularly angry. And of course I am not melting down or losing it. I used to be angry at the hypocrisy of certain others here, so blatantly on display in this thread. But there is no point in anger. They have their petty axes to grind and petty egos to inflate. At one point, I felt surprise and even betrayal at the human weakness on display.
So why bother? It goes case by case.
I'm not a bigot even though that is an easy narrative for someone like Windi to take while he hides his own naked and open hatred of Israel. By attacking me and derailing what I say he can remove the points that I made in defence of Israel. I can't let that stand.
I'm not a furious at someone like wrench who wrote as clearly as anyone could, that she feels an inferiority complex. And yes, that will give compulsive downdings, but before you do hit that, ask yourself why it is she is so out to get "elitists" as she puts it, even when what they are saying is indisputably true? Again, it isn't about that. Who cares. I care simply to not let the racial history of the south or the nature of Arab violence be whitewashed under a falsely motivated air of PC.
And again, as to 00G... I actually like that poster. Smart but arrogant. Then again so am I. However, I can't let him or her belittle real world deaths on a very selective English language hunt.
The unifying theme is the same.
Truth first. Petty web politics not even on the radar.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:24:12pm |
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:25:08pm |
re: #335 albusteve
not at all...but I'm willing to address your shitty attitude whenever you like, but before you do go look in a mirror at the scars I've already given you...I think you're spent for now
Ahhh Steve, the day you give me a scar... I am so glad to give your otherwise undistinguished life meaning.
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The Ghost of a Flea Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:25:48pm |
re: #348 EmmmieG
I don't like felafels. I do like latkes.
I must be Jewish.
I like both, and am at this moment conspiring to meld them into a single heretical croquet.
I think that fits me in somewhere around Vedanta Hindu, or perhaps Alevi.
re: #341 Alouette
Anti-Semite is not the opposite of Semite.
So accelerating a Semite and an Anti-Semite into a particle collider will not, in fact, produce gamma rays?
Well...I guess my skull-shaped hidden fortress of evil will just have to get back on the grid....
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Digital Display Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:25:53pm |
re: #354 albusteve
yeah you do Mr Corporate Big Dog...go see your peeps then come tell me how cool it was...it's good for everybody...I used to just hop a plane whenever I wanted to, then all that changed...meanwhile I'll drop down to Norman in a week or so and teach Winston how to piss on a fire hydrant
LOL You crack me up! Did you see I went to the Ball State game at OU last sat?
It was a blast.. So it's the big fricking game this Saturday.. Cotton Bowl Time. I'm going to the Lodge at 10am.. Hundreds of fans have a potluck there..It's a big deal I guess.. Tons of Food, Cheap booze and football..
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Wozza Matter? Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:26:37pm |
re: #369 engineer dog
i dunno about home cooking, but restaurant food in the bwitish isles is vastly improved these days
Theres always been good food, you just had to know where to look.
For example - not in restaurants serving British food.
Best food here is Greek, Turkish, Lebanese, Indian, Chinese, Italian, French.....(etc)
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laZardo Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:27:01pm |
re: #364 ProLifeLiberal
Russia has a Navy Base in Syria. If there's war, Russia's not going to take it lying down.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:28:35pm |
re: #373 LudwigVanQuixote
Ahhh Steve, the day you give me a scar... I am so glad to give your otherwise undistinguished life meaning.
fortunately, unlike you, I'm not all about distinguishing myself....but until you get your superiority complex and anger under control, your distinguishing efforts are in vain...at least with me...you've pimped yourself right into the toilet...let it go
| 379 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:28:39pm |
re: #370 LudwigVanQuixote
Hello, you!
*smooch*
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:28:45pm |
re: #377 laZardo
Damn it, I forgot about that (for the 10th+ time).
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:28:51pm |
re: #352 Bubblehead II
"I have friends who stand nights on
witchwatch around their homes because if they don't their children will be murdered."Yawn. In other parts of the World, they have other people to watch out for.
You know, like the drug cartels that will kill you if you and/or your Family speak out against them. They also mount night watches to insure the safety of their Families/Villages.
Israel isn't unique in this regard.
Yes but people who deny who the attackers are and people who never seem to count Jewish deaths, is Israel's very unique problem. Thank you for contemptuously making my point.
And simply because dead Jews is a yawn to you, it is not to me.
But thank you for clearly showing your colors.
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laZardo Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:30:05pm |
Yeah, I'm gonna go wash my dishes (and actually go out and get the cereal I was supposed to get before I ended up at OS.) BBL
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Wozza Matter? Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:30:23pm |
And now for something completely different.
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:30:55pm |
Tony Bennett seems to bring out the very best in his female duet partners.
Gaga sounds great in that video. She handles the song effortlessly and gets a couple of laughs out of the old pro.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:31:40pm |
re: #375 HoosierHoops
LOL You crack me up! Did you see I went to the Ball State game at OU last sat?
It was a blast.. So it's the big fricking game this Saturday.. Cotton Bowl Time. I'm going to the Lodge at 10am.. Hundreds of fans have a potluck there..It's a big deal I guess.. Tons of Food, Cheap booze and football..
yeah, OU vs Texas is the big one...if you want football culture, you're deep in it....
HOOK 'EM!
| 386 |
Wozza Matter? Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:34:30pm |
re: #384 makeitstop
A bunch of my facebook friends have posted that - i say a bunch, we are probably upto 100 of 552 so far............ and well, I hate to say it, but Lady GaGa irks me generally.
| 387 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:35:37pm |
Well, one piece of news on Wikipedia I expected:
Luis Fortuño, the Governor of the US Territory of Puerto Rico, submits a plan for a two-part referendum to change its status.
I support Puerto Rico as the 51st State.
And a bizarre one:
The Italian Wikipedia goes on strike in protest against a bill being considered by the Parliament of Italy.
What happened? That seems strange.
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Wozza Matter? Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:36:39pm |
re: #387 ProLifeLiberal
I support Puerto Rico as the 51st State.
52nd, thank you very much.
The Brits should at least be allowed our delusions that we are still the 51st.
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:36:48pm |
re: #381 LudwigVanQuixote
Yes but people who deny who the attackers are and people who never seem to count Jewish deaths, is Israel's very unique problem. Thank you for contemptuously making my point.
And simply because dead Jews is a yawn to you, it is not to me.
But thank you for clearly showing your colors.
And dead Christians/Hinus/ect (regardless of the Country) don't matter?
Thank you for making your position clear. Jews matter, everyone else, fuck off.
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:37:07pm |
re: #386 wozzablog
A bunch of my facebook friends have posted that - i say a bunch, we are probably upto 100 of 552 so far... and well, I hate to say it, but Lady GaGa irks me generally.
I'll agree with that - she always seems to be trying too hard.
But she seems so relaxed singing Rodgers & Hart. Totally the opposite of what I've come to expect from her.
Bennett's duet with Amy Winehouse was excellent as well. She looked so thrilled to share a song with him, and she knocked it out of the park as well.
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:37:46pm |
re: #387 ProLifeLiberal
Okay, I found out what happened:
On October 4, 2011, following a decision adopted by the community, all of the site's articles were hidden and the website blocked by its administrators, as a protest against paragraph 29 of the DDL intercettazioni (Wiretapping Bill) which was being debated at the time in the Chamber of Deputies of the Italian parliament. The proposed bill would empower anyone who believes themselves to have been offended by the content of a web site to enforce publication of a reply, uneditable and uncommented, on the same web site, within 48 hours and without any prior evaluation of the claim by a judge. Should the bill pass, it is thought likely to inflict severe limitations on the "horizontal" freedom of access and editing that is common to Wikimedia projects. This was the first time a Wikipedia blanked all its content to protest. The Wikimedia Foundation officially supported the decision of the Italian Wikipedia by a statement released the same day. The manifesto which replaced the Italian Wikipedia has been viewed approximately 8 million times.
Italy continues to slide towards dictatorship.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:38:41pm |
Well. No surprise really:
BreakingNews Breaking News
Apple says Steve Jobs has died - @AP
| 393 |
goddamnedfrank Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:38:44pm |
This thread sucks ... I want a new toy!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:38:58pm |
re: #391 ProLifeLiberal
Okay, I found out what happened:
Italy continues to slide towards dictatorship.
Will the trains run on time?
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Wozza Matter? Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:39:01pm |
re: #390 makeitstop
Winehouse it took me ages to warm to - mostly due to the scene and her hardcore camden town fans being very punchable.
Lady Gaga is over the top, it's her schtick - like Alice Cooper, so this sort of thing suits her.
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:39:08pm |
re: #388 wozzablog
Then you have to follow procedure.
To be fair, I believe D.C. and the remaining populated outlying islands should all be states in there own right. This is just the big one.
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blueraven Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:40:15pm |
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Digital Display Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:40:45pm |
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:40:50pm |
re: #392 reine.de.tout
I'm not seeing anything on it. I'll believe it if more comes out.
HoosierHoops:
Don't assume anything yet. There have been misreports of death before (Hi Franco)
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:40:52pm |
re: #392 reine.de.tout
Well. No surprise really:
bummer...there is always tomorrow for the living, and I take it one day at a time
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:40:54pm |
re: #393 goddamnedfrank
This thread sucks ... I want a new toy!
[Video]
I thought you were talking about this -
(That's a very young Thomas Dolby on keyboards.)
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Wozza Matter? Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:41:27pm |
re: #396 ProLifeLiberal
Then you have to follow procedure.
To be fair, I believe D.C. and the remaining populated outlying islands should all be states in there own right. This is just the big one.
Completely agree.
DC, the Territories, Puerto Rico - no taxation without representation.
That DC doesn't have a Senator is just, well, lunatic.
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engineer cat Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:42:11pm |
oh my god steve jobs dead of pancreatic cancer
olav ha shalom
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:43:24pm |
re: #398 HoosierHoops
Nothing on Cnn yet..Man this is a bummer
yeah...he was(?) a pioneer, regardless of what people say
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blueraven Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:43:54pm |
re: #399 ProLifeLiberal
I'm not seeing anything on it. I'll believe it if more comes out.
HoosierHoops:
Don't assume anything yet. There have been misreports of death before (Hi Franco)
It's all over cable news. Confirmed by Apple.
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:44:12pm |
Apple confirms, so it happened.
re: #402 wozzablog
The other territories are Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, the US Virgin Islands, and American Samoa.
All of them have more than 60,000 people.
Recently, there has been talk between Guam and the Northern Marianas Islands for merging and trying to get statehood after that.
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Digital Display Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:44:19pm |
re: #403 engineer dog
oh my god steve jobs dead of pancreatic cancer
olav ha shalom
Still Nothing on CNN.. I'm so sorry for him and his family...
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darthstar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:46:19pm |
Rest in Peace, Steve Jobs. And thank you for taking the headlines away from Sarah Palin today...I suspect that will give your spirit some satisfaction.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:46:23pm |
re: #378 albusteve
fortunately, unlike you, I'm not all about distinguishing myself...but until you get your superiority complex and anger under control, your distinguishing efforts are in vain...at least with me...you've pimped yourself right into the toilet...let it go
Right and you pimp yourself by trolling me and picking fights every single chance you get. So if I am so insignificant and you pimp yourself by attacking me, what does that make you?
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Wozza Matter? Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:46:36pm |
re: #406 ProLifeLiberal
The other territories are Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, the US Virgin Islands, and American Samoa.
All of them have more than 60,000 people.
Recently, there has been talk between Guam and the Northern Marianas Islands for merging and trying to get statehood after that.
It's got to happen. A democratic deficit like that is unsustainable.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:46:55pm |
re: #410 LudwigVanQuixote
Right and you pimp yourself by trolling me and picking fights every single chance you get. So if I am so insignificant and you pimp yourself by attacking me, what does that make you?
normal
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Amory Blaine Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:47:15pm |
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Varek Raith Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:48:03pm |
Steve Jobs, the co-founder of Apple, has died, according to the company. He was 56.
Damn, I may have not liked Apple, but I respected the man.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:48:36pm |
re: #392 reine.de.tout
Well. No surprise really:
That's very sad news. RIP, to a talented & creative man. Blessings on his family in their time of grief.
| 418 |
makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:50:20pm |
Hey, Steve - I just got the chance to deliver your message to Dick Wagner on Facebook.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:50:28pm |
re: #409 darthstar
Rest in Peace, Steve Jobs. And thank you for taking the headlines away from Sarah Palin today...I suspect that will give your spirit some satisfaction.
He planned it that way all along.
/RW Blogger mode
| 420 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:50:42pm |
re: #393 goddamnedfrank
This thread sucks ... I want a new toy!
[Video]
A slightly different new toy for you
| 421 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:50:46pm |
re: #411 wozzablog
The areas left have a population of (at most) 100 (usually 0).
They are also claimed smaller nations nearby. Such as Navassa Island off the Haitian Coast, claimed by Haiti.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:51:10pm |
re: #417 EmmmieG
Cancer sucks.
it does...when they say cancer with regard to the pancreas, you're dead
| 423 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:51:11pm |
re: #389 Bubblehead II
And dead Christians/Hinus/ect (regardless of the Country) don't matter?
Thank you for making your position clear. Jews matter, everyone else, fuck off.
Now that is a racist statement if ever there was one and an evil bit of projection on your part.
Fascinating, I am one of the people on this thread who consistently hates racists no matter where they are from. I have written here about atrocity after atrocity through history.
I condemn all senseless deaths and I always have.
It takes a bigot though to think that any murders are worth a yawn - but to you Jewish deaths are Yawn worthy. Those are your exact words.
It takes a bigot to go and say that I only care about Jewish dead as some sort of cogent response to your disinterest in Jewish dead.
You have shown your true colors very well tonight.
Commendable honesty on your part, but it does make you a despicable person.
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:51:42pm |
re: #420 Floral Giraffe
A slightly different new toy for you
[Video]
Hey, I just posted that! :)
(Repeating myself - Recognize the keyboard player? Young Thomas Dolby.)
| 425 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:52:46pm |
re: #424 makeitstop
GMTA!
LOL!
Love her.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:53:12pm |
re: #418 makeitstop
Hey, Steve - I just got the chance to deliver your message to Dick Wagner on Facebook.
yaaay!...thanks bro
I meant what I said
| 427 |
engineer cat Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:53:19pm |
the personal computer existed only as a hobbyist's kit before steve jobs and steve wozniak conceived and built them as something an ordinary person could use - really, it was jobs' idea and woz figured out how to build it
this was as big an innovation as edison's invention of the first practical light bulb and henry ford's invention of the model T
| 428 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:53:41pm |
Does this have to be the night we lose a couple valuable lizards?
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:55:43pm |
re: #428 Decatur Deb
Does this have to be the night we lose a couple valuable lizards?
No... but it is an entertaining display of utter hypocrisy and human weakness.
It is my hope that some people learn from it, become a bit less clannish and egocentric and care more for truth than their own petty issues.
| 430 |
albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:56:08pm |
re: #423 LudwigVanQuixote
Now that is a racist statement if ever there was one and an evil bit of projection on your part.
Fascinating, I am one of the people on this thread who consistently hates racists no matter where they are from. I have written here about atrocity after atrocity through history.
I condemn all senseless deaths and I always have.
It takes a bigot though to think that any murders are worth a yawn - but to you Jewish deaths are Yawn worthy. Those are your exact words.
It takes a bigot to go and say that I only care about Jewish dead as some sort of cogent response to your disinterest in Jewish dead.
You have shown your true colors very well tonight.
Commendable honesty on your part, but it does make you a despicable person.
few here care what you think...you've trashed alot of good people...you have to be dumber than a box of rocks to not understand how your caustic, zealous, elitist attitude fucks up your message
| 431 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:58:58pm |
re: #430 albusteve
few here care what you think...you've trashed alot of good people...you have to be dumber than a box of rocks to not understand how your caustic, zealous, elitist attitude fucks up your message
Steve he wrote quite clearly that Jewish dead are yawn worthy and that not finding it so means that one is a racist.
Yet you see that as a chance to troll me.
Well you always were an utter creep.
| 432 |
laZardo Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:59:43pm |
re: #428 Decatur Deb
I get the sinking feeling that this is my fault.
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Digital Display Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:59:43pm |
re: #427 engineer dog
the personal computer existed only as a hobbyist's kit before steve jobs and steve wozniak conceived and built them as something an ordinary person could use - really, it was jobs' idea and woz figured out how to build it
this was as big an innovation as edison's invention of the first practical light bulb and henry ford's invention of the model T
Well it was a great and complex story of Technology.. We won't get this story in the next week..But remember the beginning wars of MS and Apple?
I mean it went for years.. Microsoft encouraged programmers to be small fish in a big lake and Apple said they would be big fish in a small lake...
Business went to MS and Publishing went to Apple.. There were several good movies about it back in the day...
| 434 |
palomino Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:00:18pm |
re: #422 albusteve
it does...when they say cancer with regard to the pancreas, you're dead
That's what they told my Mom when she was 84 and had the major Whipple surgery for her very advanced pancreatic cancer. She lived to be 90. Pancreatic cancer is a bitch, but it's not an immediate death sentence. Jobs lived another 7 years after his initial diagnosis.
| 435 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:00:55pm |
re: #432 laZardo
I get the sinking feeling that this is my fault.
Probably not, but you should flog yourself just in case.
| 436 |
makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:01:48pm |
| 437 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:02:24pm |
re: #430 albusteve
few here care what you think...you've trashed alot of good people...you have to be dumber than a box of rocks to not understand how your caustic, zealous, elitist attitude fucks up your message
And as to any elitist attitude... is that really so different than your clannish one, that discounts a truly vile bit of actual racist projection solely because that makes you feel meaningful?
Steve, you aren't that important. Digging at me doesn't make you special. Digging at me even if it means defending rather evil and racist remarks though does make you terribly sad.
Life passed you by. You didn't do much with it. All of that may be true. But that is rather a low even for you.
| 439 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:03:24pm |
re: #39 oaktree
I'm favoring the Joan of Arc analogy for Sarah at this point. The GOP soul under siege from Obama (or Romney if you want to go deeper into the GOP soul being conservative and Romney being not one) and God calling upon her to ride to the rescue, rally the cause, and then defeat the enemy for great glory.
I call her Joan of Arc, 2.0
| 440 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:04:09pm |
re: #384 makeitstop
Tony Bennett seems to bring out the very best in his female duet partners.
[Video]Gaga sounds great in that video. She handles the song effortlessly and gets a couple of laughs out of the old pro.
That's because, even at eighty-five, all the girls want Tony.
| 442 |
albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:04:45pm |
re: #434 palomino
That's what they told my Mom when she was 84 and had the major Whipple surgery for her very advanced pancreatic cancer. She lived to be 90. Pancreatic cancer is a bitch, but it's not an immediate death sentence. Jobs lived another 7 years after his initial diagnosis.
good point...yes pancreatic cancer moves slowly and for that reason alone there may be hope in the future...quality of life is so important, that the first thing I do in the morning is count my blessings...another day, another gift....cancer freaks me out, I admit
| 443 |
The Ghost of a Flea Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:05:13pm |
re: #439 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I call her Joan of Arc, 2.0
Now 100% free of Popish Nonsense!
| 444 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:06:48pm |
re: #442 albusteve
good point...yes pancreatic cancer moves slowly and for that reason alone there may be hope in the future...quality of life is so important, that the first thing I do in the morning is count my blessings...another day, another gift...cancer freaks me out, I admit
It kills most people who contract it in two years and is one of the most clear death sentence cancers.
| 445 |
albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:07:15pm |
re: #435 Decatur Deb
Probably not, but you should flog yourself just in case.
heh...preventative pentenance
| 446 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:07:32pm |
Meanwhile, someone I follow just had this:
At the moment Steve Job's death was announced, the NYPD was opening up pepper spray on #occupywallstreet
| 447 |
Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:08:20pm |
re: #423 LudwigVanQuixote
No it's not. The simple matter is that I pointed out that there are others who for non religious reasons mount night watches to protect them selves from aggression as well as pointing out that Israel isn't unique in doing this.
That was the reason for the *Yawn*.
Get over it.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:09:00pm |
re: #289 engineer dog
How To Completely Miss The Point, Lesson LXVII
Gingrich: GOP isn't racist
Don’t say the Republican Party doesn’t appeal to minorities, Newt Gingrich says.
“How do you have a press conference with Michael Steele and say, ‘Why are you a racist?’” Gingrich said here, citing the former RNC chairman. “You can't attack our team as being racist with Herman Cain running a campaign.”
yes i can
How to be a dumb, conservative tokenist bigot and go trotting out your black best friend as a shield, as if "minorities" have never seen that behavior before e_e
| 449 |
albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:09:08pm |
re: #447 Bubblehead II
No it's not. The simple matter is that I pointed out that there are others who for non religious reasons mount night watches to protect them selves from aggression as well as pointing out that Israel isn't unique in doing this.
That was the reason for the *Yawn*.
Get over it.
no chance
| 450 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:09:29pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:10:58pm |
re: #387 ProLifeLiberal
Well, one piece of news on Wikipedia I expected:
I support Puerto Rico as the 51st State.
If they want in, I have no objections.
| 453 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:11:07pm |
re: #448 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
How to be a dumb, conservative tokenist bigot and go trotting out your black best friend as a shield, as if "minorities" have never seen that behavior before e_e
Better teach the children quickly:
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
| 454 |
albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:11:34pm |
re: #450 Decatur Deb
DaVinci Club For Men.
I whip myself with my laundry girl's teddy once in a while...can I join?
| 455 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:11:42pm |
re: #390 makeitstop
I'll agree with that - she always seems to be trying too hard.
But she seems so relaxed singing Rodgers & Hart. Totally the opposite of what I've come to expect from her.
Bennett's duet with Amy Winehouse was excellent as well. She looked so thrilled to share a song with him, and she knocked it out of the park as well.
Winehouse was raised by a musician, so I expect she realized how special Bennett really is.
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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:11:44pm |
re: #422 albusteve
it does...when they say cancer with regard to the pancreas, you're dead
Pancreas and the liver...catch it soon enough and you can buy some time, but for most, it usually turns out to be a death sentence.
Found that out the hard way with my father (breast cancer that had metastasized to the liver, even after a mastectomy and a couple of rounds of chemo). He bought about five years, died last April.
| 457 |
albusteve Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:13:09pm |
re: #456 talon_262
Pancreas and the liver...catch it soon enough and you can buy some time, but for most, it usually turns out to be a death sentence.
Found that out the hard way with my father (breast cancer that had metastasized to the liver, even after a mastectomy and a couple of rounds of chemo). He bought about five years, died last April.
that's sad...my dad died of congestive heart failure...hopeless
| 458 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:13:18pm |
re: #403 engineer dog
oh my god steve jobs dead of pancreatic cancer
olav ha shalom
Baruch dayan emet.
I guess we've been expecting this.
| 459 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:13:21pm |
re: #452 SanFranciscoZionist
If they want in, I have no objections.
Rita Moreno says they're already in.
| 460 |
makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:14:52pm |
re: #455 SanFranciscoZionist
Winehouse was raised by a musician, so I expect she realized how special Bennett really is.
I saw an interview with Tony where he talked about Winehouse, and he said he told her that she reminded him of Dinah Washington.
He said her face lit up and she could barely believe he would compare her to the woman who was perhaps her biggest idol.
And he seemed like he was really touched by her humility. So sad.
| 462 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:15:23pm |
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makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:16:29pm |
| 464 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:16:34pm |
re: #427 engineer dog
this was as big an innovation as edison's invention of the first practical light bulb
Careful phrasing to avoid being clobbered by Team Tesla?
| 465 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:16:59pm |
| 466 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:17:22pm |
re: #462 ProLifeLiberal
Somebody else pass on?
I think he may be groaning over the LVQ/000G/Bubblehead II/etc. kerfluffle upthread.
| 467 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:17:31pm |
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:18:37pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:18:47pm |
re: #448 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
How to be a dumb, conservative tokenist bigot and go trotting out your black best friend as a shield, as if "minorities" have never seen that behavior before e_e
I still think someone could make a fortune with an escort service that provided people with black friends.
| 470 |
makeitstop Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:19:13pm |
re: #467 SanFranciscoZionist
I blame Bush.
///Will the Democrats never stop blaming Bush?
And the MBF goes into overtime! :)
| 471 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:19:52pm |
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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:22:51pm |
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:23:09pm |
re: #447 Bubblehead II
No it's not. The simple matter is that I pointed out that there are others who for non religious reasons mount night watches to protect them selves from aggression as well as pointing out that Israel isn't unique in doing this.
That was the reason for the *Yawn*.
Get over it.
That is not what you wrote at all or how you meant it at all now was it? It was despicable. So was the claim that I only care for Jewish dead, which is untrue, was never stated or even implied except in the most delusional racist fever dream that you managed to concoct. You could apologize. Or you could double down. I expect a doubling down.
Either way, you have shown yourself for what you are.
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RogueOne Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:23:24pm |
re: #469 SanFranciscoZionist
I still think someone could make a fortune with an escort service that provided people with black friends.
They'd make a killing in South Dakota. My wife was talking to a friend back home earlier. Her friend had taken the family to Florida for vacation this summer. While on the beach her 4 year old son blurted out "That man is tan!". The first black person the kid had ever seen.
| 475 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:24:29pm |
re: #461 Charles
Oh man. Not again.
I promise my tone has been even and any observations clearly pointed.
I shall also be giving this a rest. I've made my points and I am tired of it.
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:29:46pm |
Mother Jones has an interactive map where Protests are organizing. There are some weird places getting them. From East to West:
Amherst, MA
Palm Beach, FL
Asheville, NC
Greensboro, NC
Little Rock, AR
Des Moines, IO
McAllen, TX (???)
Boise, ID
Indio, CA
Humboldt, CA
Eugene, OR
| 477 |
engineer cat Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:42:49pm |
re: #464 SanFranciscoZionist
Careful phrasing to avoid being clobbered by Team Tesla?
not tesla iirc, but there had been light bulbs that had been invented and even deployed commercially before edison's, but nothing that could be used in the home
| 478 |
Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:49:02pm |
re: #473 LudwigVanQuixote
That is not what you wrote at all or how you meant it at all now was it? It was despicable. So was the claim that I only care for Jewish dead, which is untrue, was never stated or even implied except in the most delusional racist fever dream that you managed to concoct. You could apologize. Or you could double down. I expect a doubling down.
Either way, you have shown yourself for what you are.
You can read my mind and look into my soul? Fine, then correct me. I was responding to what I perceived as your total disregard for other people of different Faiths/locations. Sorry, but this shit is happening all over the world.
It happens. Israel isn't unique. Evil happens. All we can do is denounce it when we learn about it.
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Jimmi the Grey Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:11:27pm |
re: #476 ProLifeLiberal
Mother Jones has an interactive map where Protests are organizing. There are some weird places getting them. From East to West:
...
Eugene, OR
Not really familiar with that town I take it. UofO is there and, um, they make Berkeley look kinda 'square'.
Side note, used to score the BEST 'vitamin A' there in the late '80s and early '90s.
| 482 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:16:59pm |
re: #480 Jimmi the Grey
The summary mentioned a University, and I know that area grows an extreme amount of Marijuana. Some of the others (Hi Indio) are still interesting.
Edit: I brain-farted, and thought you were speaking about Humboldt. This actually fits for both of them though.
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:47:49pm |
BTW. Just so you know what this kerfluffle is about. Please check out my original post.
But, some how this is racist. Go tell.
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:54:42pm |
And I hate to do this. But Charles, were any of my comments racist? And if so, how?
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