Opinions on the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations are all over the ideological map at LGF, so here’s another topic-less thread to continue hashing it out in best “General Assembly” manner…
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Wozza Matter? Mon, Oct 10, 2011 6:57:46pm |
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darthstar Mon, Oct 10, 2011 6:59:21pm |
re: #3 Gus 802
Eat the rich!
;)
Eat the poor…less fat, less grease, and better for you. Look at the rich…they eat the poor all the time and look how healthy and fat they are!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:00:07pm |
I saw the video.
If Jazz hands get involved at any time, I’m leaving.
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windsagio Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:00:07pm |
Well with you weenies lets get something really good going :p
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Its really upsetting that people who dislike this movement use the same dated/authoritarian ideas that were used against the Civil Rights movement.
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PhillyPretzel Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:00:07pm |
Ahh. A new thread; and the same old topic. //
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Gus Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:00:07pm |
re: #4 darthstar
Eat the poor…less fat, less grease, and better for you. Look at the rich…they eat the poor all the time and look how healthy and fat they are!
Occupy Poor Street! It’s about time those lazy poor bastards started paying their fair share in taxes.
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b_sharp Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:01:18pm |
re: #8 PhillyPretzel
Ahh. A new thread; and the same old topic. //
Oh shut up, this is a totally new topic.
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jaunte Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:02:27pm |
Rumsfeld addresses the Human Microphone
There are known knowns
(There are known knowns)
there are things we know we know.
(there are things we know we know.)
We also know
(We also know)
there are known unknowns;
(there are known unknowns;)
that is to say
(that is to say)
we know there are some things
(we know there are some things)
we do not know.
(we do not know.)
But there are also
(But there are also)
unknown unknowns
(unknown unknowns)
the ones we don’t know we don’t know.
(the ones we don’t know we don’t know.)
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Charles Johnson Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:02:29pm |
Just make sure to clean up your own trash. And don’t do that weird finger waving thing.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:02:50pm |
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darthstar Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:02:57pm |
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PhillyPretzel Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:03:24pm |
::: putting the Fickle Finger of Fate Award away :::
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makeitstop Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:04:08pm |
re: #7 windsagio
Well with you weenies lets get something really good going :p
~~~
Its really upsetting that people who dislike this movement use the same dated/authoritarian ideas that were used against the Civil Rights movement.
Those who want to hate this movement really want to hate it. Every bad trait of every protest movement ever has been ascribed to OWS.
I guess we could shorthand it as ‘OWSDS.’ :)
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Kragar Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:04:57pm |
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Obdicut Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:05:05pm |
re: #9 Gus 802
Alright. I don’t think I’m going to have energy/time to get down there tomorrow, but i will on Wednesday. Armed with a ‘why ending the Fed is either pointless or moot’ fact sheet.
With that being said:
That income is decreasing even during the ‘recovery’ is really underscoring how broken the system is. I don’t think occupying public parks is actually going to fix this problem per se, but things are getting pretty dire.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:05:36pm |
Honestly, I’m so busy living my own life, I have a hard time paying attention. People organizing and living on the streets of NYC and other places with home-made signs.
What else has happened?
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windsagio Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:05:59pm |
re: #17 makeitstop
Those who want to hate this movement really want to hate it. Every bad trait of every protest movement ever has been ascribed to OWS.
I guess we could shorthand it as ‘OWSDS.’ :)
oh fuck me awesome.
I thought of OWSDS the other day too (but then forgot until you just said it :D)! I’m so using that!
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Mr Pancakes Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:06:39pm |
As much as this whole OWS bores the crap out of me……. it would never make me jump to my death.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:07:12pm |
re: #7 windsagio
Its really upsetting that people who dislike this movement use the same dated/authoritarian ideas that were used against the Civil Rights movement.
Same old m.o., same old bigots, different millennium.
It’s new to them, so they think it’s new to everyone else, I guess.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:08:11pm |
I’ll repost this. It really *is* worth reading:
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
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laZardo Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:10:11pm |
RULE NUMBER ONE: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT FIGHT THREADS.
:B
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Wozza Matter? Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:10:53pm |
re: #19 Obdicut
Alright. I don’t think I’m going to have energy/time to get down there tomorrow, but i will on Wednesday. Armed with a ‘why ending the Fed is either pointless or moot’ fact sheet.
With that being said:
That income is decreasing even during the ‘recovery’ is really underscoring how broken the system is. I don’t think occupying public parks is actually going to fix this problem per se, but things are getting pretty dire.
You can’t have a functioning consumer economy when the vast majority of disposable income resides with those who are just setting it aside or sticking it into the markets - millions here millions there like loose change.
I’m working on an idea for a post - but it runs along the lines of true decline of middle class purchasing power since the 50’s.
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darthstar Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:11:11pm |
re: #26 laZardo
RULE NUMBER ONE: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT FIGHT THREADS.
:B
Speaking of Monday night…there’s football on TV right now.
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PhillyPretzel Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:11:14pm |
Shit. Avon just had a Christmas commerical.
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Wozza Matter? Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:12:02pm |
re: #21 windsagio
oh fuck me awesome.
I thought of OWSDS the other day too (but then forgot until you just said it :D)! I’m so using that!
We’re on Occupy Wall Street does Dancing With the Stars?
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:12:36pm |
*slides folding chair into ring, starts ripping padding out of turnbuckles*
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Obdicut Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:12:41pm |
re: #25 austin_blue
Basically: It’s possible, but by no means probably, that the protesters are as much economic and social extremists as the GOP. Frankly, I think the GOP still has the edge, since they combine religious, economic, and social extremism, but the plucky young protesters just might take the lead in radicalism from the GOP if they try really hard.
I think that’s what’s really funny to me. The comparison shouldn’t be between these guys and the Tea Party, but between the protesters and the GOP. I can find positions as extreme among elected GOP officials without breaking a sweat.
Marxists advocating the death of capitalism? GOP has elected officials and candidates who want no taxes on unearned income— on capital gains. They want capital to be elevated over everything, and only labor to be taxed. But somehow, they’re not treated as thought they’re extremists.
Even though they are. Every bit as much as the ‘revolutionaries’ in the park.
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Wozza Matter? Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:13:08pm |
re: #31 goddamnedfrank
*slides folding chair into ring, starts ripping padding out of turnbuckles*
*distracts the ref*
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Gus Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:13:27pm |
re: #19 Obdicut
Alright. I don’t think I’m going to have energy/time to get down there tomorrow, but i will on Wednesday. Armed with a ‘why ending the Fed is either pointless or moot’ fact sheet.
With that being said:
That income is decreasing even during the ‘recovery’ is really underscoring how broken the system is. I don’t think occupying public parks is actually going to fix this problem per se, but things are getting pretty dire.
When you’re in you’re early 20s. Maybe you didn’t have that urge to do something like this back then but I did. Never happened. Anyway, heard that Mayor Bloomberg was going to allow them to sleep in a certain park “as long as they don’t break the law.” Was glad to hear that. Put’s him back on my better side list.
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b_sharp Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:13:38pm |
re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I agree with that, but that’s the wrong answer.
I dispute that but it needed to be said.
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makeitstop Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:14:09pm |
re: #19 Obdicut
I don’t think occupying public parks is actually going to fix this problem per se, but things are getting pretty dire.
It is definitely opening a whole new line of conversation. Even the media, bless their hearts, can’t get it ass-backwards 100% of the time.
I heard a report on CBS Radio News tonight, and they had a soundbite from one of the protestors. But it wasn’t even close to what I was expecting. Paraphrasing:
‘I’m here protesting banking practices. I have kids, I own a house, and I don’t have purple hair.’
Surprised the crap out of me.
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darthstar Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:14:30pm |
re: #31 goddamnedfrank
*slides folding chair into ring, starts ripping padding out of turnbuckles*
George “The Animal” Steele always ate the padding out of the turnbuckles.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:14:36pm |
re: #36 makeitstop
It is definitely opening a whole new line of conversation. Even the media, bless their hearts, can’t get it ass-backwards 100% of the time.
I heard a report on CBS Radio News tonight, and they had a soundbite from one of the protestors. But it wasn’t even close to what I was expecting. Paraphrasing:
‘I’m here protesting banking practices. I have kids, I own a house, and I don’t have purple hair.’
Surprised the crap out of me.
That he didn’t have purple hair?
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Obdicut Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:15:15pm |
re: #34 Gus 802
I honestly think Bloomberg’s just trying to be nice and buttery because the firefighters hiring practices thing is coming up for a meeting on the 13th that is definitely going to embarrass him.
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Gus Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:15:29pm |
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Wozza Matter? Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:15:42pm |
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garhighway Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:15:56pm |
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jaunte Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:16:05pm |
re: #42 Gus 802
Here’s the cartoonist’s website:
[Link: www.jackyfleming.co.uk…]
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makeitstop Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:16:16pm |
re: #30 wozzablog
We’re on Occupy Wall Street does Dancing With the Stars?
Occupy Wall Street Derangement Syndrome.
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Gus Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:16:44pm |
re: #41 Obdicut
I honestly think Bloomberg’s just trying to be nice and buttery because the firefighters hiring practices thing is coming up for a meeting on the 13th that is definitely going to embarrass him.
Saw something about that last week. True.
Less police interaction too so that’s a good sign. Maybe things are lightening up. Better self-policing (irony). In any case it was good to see.
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Obdicut Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:17:03pm |
re: #42 Gus 802
Heh. If you’re canny and careful and use every tax advantage and offshore your money to dodge taxes— hey, that’s just working within the letter of the law.
If you figure out what benefits you can apply for and get everything you possibly can— that’s an unconscionable abuse of the system and you’re ruining America.
That’s the standard.
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garhighway Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:17:04pm |
re: #41 Obdicut
I honestly think Bloomberg’s just trying to be nice and buttery because the firefighters hiring practices thing is coming up for a meeting on the 13th that is definitely going to embarrass him.
Nah. Bloomberg’s a political honey badger. He needs nothing from us.
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Cheechako Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:17:05pm |
re: #25 austin_blue
I’ll repost this. It really *is* worth reading:
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
Spent too much time listening to the RWNJ radio blabbers today. I got the same impression as this article. The RWNJ blabbers are going into overdrive trying to discredit the OWS movement. It’s to the point where they sound scared the the movement might get a foothold in public opinion. Of course the radio blabbers are all part of the “1%” and afraid they might have to sell some of their gold to pay higher taxes.
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Gus Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:17:11pm |
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Wozza Matter? Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:17:24pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:18:30pm |
re: #32 Obdicut
re: #32 Obdicut
They want capital to be elevated over everything, and only labor to be taxed. But somehow, they’re not treated as thought they’re extremists.
Even though they are. Every bit as much as the ‘revolutionaries’ in the park.
When the commies in the park get themselves deep-pocket lobbyists and bajillionaires propping up OWS candidates and getting a contingent in the House, the handwringer’s gripes will be legit.
They have two years to do it, like the tea party they are so desperate to compare OWS to, did.
That will and can never happen with OWS.
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makeitstop Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:19:26pm |
re: #39 ggt
That he didn’t have purple hair?
That they quoted a non-extremist.
I know they’re there. I didn’t expect the media to ask them questions. I do, always, expect them media to take the cheap shot whenever they get the chance.
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Gus Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:20:13pm |
“Martha! Get over here. There’s some strange hippie man doing a strange dance in front of the garden. He’s wearing weird clothing and playing the bongo. Yeah. Why they almost look like women’s clothing and he has really long hair. Honey, call the pol… No, know wait a minute here. Why that. Why that looks like George. Our son George!”
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Wozza Matter? Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:20:54pm |
re: #53 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
re: #32 Obdicut
When the commies in the park get themselves deep-pocket lobbyists and bajillionaires propping up OWS candidates and getting a contingent in the House, the handwringer’s gripes will be legit.
They have two years to do it, like the tea party they are so desperate to compare OWS to, did.
That will and can never happen with OWS.
I’d love to see Warren Buffett kick in a bunch of dollars.
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makeitstop Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:20:58pm |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:21:16pm |
Charles said on the previous thread…..
In a way I have to hand it to Ron Paul. His position in US politics is pretty unique. He’s found a formula that appeals to the extremists on both sides, a distorted libertarian ideology that includes the most repressive memes of the religious right and the most delusional isolationism of the radical left.
he lucked into it. The Tea Party dusted off the old model of the of the anti-communist right. Libertarians and the religious right held together by the John Birch Society and McCarthy era paranoia. This is why I found researching Adbusters so illuminating. He’s using the model of the Situationists . It’s a collaboration of Marxists, labor unions and anarchists (Paulians). It explains the Tea Party, OWS and G20 riots. It’s a recycled formula but still useful. Useful idiots on both sides of the political spectrum eagerly flock to these destructive movements no matter how many times they repeat themselves.
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lawhawk Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:22:22pm |
re: #25 austin_blue
I think Krugman is off the mark. For starters, I don’t think there’s anything approaching hysterical reactions from Wall Street. Having been down there enough over the last three weeks, the overall reaction from Wall Street types is a shrug of the shoulders and not much more.
Hysterics are left to the media and punditry who are all over themselves to find meaning from the ongoing protests. The characterizations are coming from GOPers and others who are trying to make a name for themselves and from candidates who are trying to break out from the rest of the pack.
Bloomberg has been all over the map. Brookfield Properties isn’t giving the protesters the boot, even though they are fully within their rights to do so as the owner of the park (and Brookfield would be what the protesters would normally consider Wall Street - ticker symbol BPO). Yet, they’ve relented and allowed the protesters to take the park over.
Where Krugman gets it right is that the Wall Street types didn’t pay any price for their risk-taking; the bailouts shifted the risk of loss to the taxpayers and the Wall Streeters haven’t had to bear the losses. That has to change - and the Volcker rule would be a start in that direction.
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Gus Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:23:04pm |
re: #58 Killgore Trout
Charles said on the previous thread…
he lucked into it. The Tea Party dusted off the old model of the of the anti-communist right. Libertarians and the religious right held together by the John Birch Society and McCarthy era paranoia. This is why I found researching Adbusters so illuminating. He’s using the model of the Situationists . It’s a collaboration of Marxists, labor unions and anarchists (Paulians). It explains the Tea Party, OWS and G20 riots. It’s a recycled formula but still useful. Useful idiots on both sides of the political spectrum eagerly flock to these destructive movements no matter how many times they repeat themselves.
Yes and the perfect play ground for the FBI being able to play their mind games on unstable kids. That would be for their next PR arrest for something. Gotta start ‘em young of course.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:24:11pm |
re: #58 Killgore Trout
It’s a recycled formula but still useful.
That’s not the only recycled formula being used.
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Gus Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:24:12pm |
re: #58 Killgore Trout
Charles said on the previous thread…
he lucked into it. The Tea Party dusted off the old model of the of the anti-communist right. Libertarians and the religious right held together by the John Birch Society and McCarthy era paranoia. This is why I found researching Adbusters so illuminating. He’s using the model of the Situationists . It’s a collaboration of Marxists, labor unions and anarchists (Paulians). It explains the Tea Party, OWS and G20 riots. It’s a recycled formula but still useful. Useful idiots on both sides of the political spectrum eagerly flock to these destructive movements no matter how many times they repeat themselves.
All of them?
So everyone and anyone that goes to an OWS demonstration is a useful idiot?’
Funny that’s what some people used to call Bush supporters.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:26:36pm |
OMG! Just wrote checks for my son’s first 2 college apps.
I feel sooo old!
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Wozza Matter? Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:26:47pm |
re: #59 lawhawk
I think Krugman is off the mark. For starters, I don’t think there’s anything approaching hysterical reactions from Wall Street. Having been down there enough over the last three weeks, the overall reaction from Wall Street types is a shrug of the shoulders and not much more.
Hysterics are left to the media and punditry who are all over themselves to find meaning from the ongoing protests. The characterizations are coming from GOPers and others who are trying to make a name for themselves and from candidates who are trying to break out from the rest of the pack.
Bloomberg has been all over the map. Brookfield Properties isn’t giving the protesters the boot, even though they are fully within their rights to do so as the owner of the park (and Brookfield would be what the protesters would normally consider Wall Street - ticker symbol BPO). Yet, they’ve relented and allowed the protesters to take the park over.
Where Krugman gets it right is that the Wall Street types didn’t pay any price for their risk-taking; the bailouts shifted the risk of loss to the taxpayers and the Wall Streeters haven’t had to bear the losses. That has to change - and the Volcker rule would be a start in that direction.
Volker, Glass-Steagall, etc. Oversight, active regulation. Gotta happen.
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garhighway Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:27:38pm |
re: #59 lawhawk
I think Krugman is off the mark. For starters, I don’t think there’s anything approaching hysterical reactions from Wall Street. Having been down there enough over the last three weeks, the overall reaction from Wall Street types is a shrug of the shoulders and not much more.
Hysterics are left to the media and punditry who are all over themselves to find meaning from the ongoing protests. The characterizations are coming from GOPers and others who are trying to make a name for themselves and from candidates who are trying to break out from the rest of the pack.
I respectfully disagree. He’s not referring to individual NYSE employees, he is talking about the institutional response, which we hear from big money’s mouthpieces. No one expects Lloyd Blankfein to wander over there and start jawing at the kids. But we expect the WSJ, The NY Post, Fox News and the other appointed voices of money to slime the kids. And they do.
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lawhawk Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:28:50pm |
re: #36 makeitstop
There were quite a few of those types around today because of the holiday. A lot of people are sympathetic with the need to reform Wall Street and banking practices, but some at these protests are essentially calling for “revolution” and blowing up the system.
There are also protesters who are calling on others to suit up to get away from the hippie/grunge/anarchist day-wear.
With the number and variety of those protesting, you can get 10 different takes from 10 different people.
The one constant? Frustration and anger with the status quo.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:30:47pm |
re: #66 jaunte
Are you feeling better (less allergic) today?
No, not really. Feel like shit, actually.
Thanks for askin’! (in best Eyeore impersonation)
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Gus Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:31:36pm |
And since moths like cotton I must have cotton mouth.
//
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:32:18pm |
re: #69 Gus 802
Damn. Some miller moth just strafed my mouth.
God is punishing you with a moth?
definition of the day:
strafe (strf)
tr.v. strafed, straf·ing, strafes
To attack (ground troops, for example) with a machine gun or cannon from a low-flying aircraft.
n.
An attack of machine-gun or cannon fire from a low-flying aircraft.
[From German (Gott) strafe (England), (God) punish (England), a common World War I slogan, from strafen, to punish, from Middle High German strfen, to contest, admonish.]
strafer n.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:32:35pm |
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makeitstop Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:33:32pm |
re: #67 lawhawk
The one constant? Frustration and anger with the status quo.
I think despite the best (using the term loosely) efforts of the media, that is the take-away from the protests.
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Michael McBacon Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:33:57pm |
I don’t belong to any movement but do support OWS, mainly out of the desire to end corporate “personhood”. And despite what the Paulbots believe, “The Fed” are part of the 99%.
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Gus Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:34:44pm |
re: #72 ggt
God is punishing you with a moth?
definition of the day:
Fortunately this moth did not come equipped with machine gun or cannon mounts.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:36:20pm |
re: #76 Gus 802
Fortunately this moth did not come equipped with machine gun or cannon mounts.
I consider you very fortunate.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:37:08pm |
re: #32 Obdicut
Basically: It’s possible, but by no means probably, that the protesters are as much economic and social extremists as the GOP. Frankly, I think the GOP still has the edge, since they combine religious, economic, and social extremism, but the plucky young protesters just might take the lead in radicalism from the GOP if they try really hard.
I think that’s what’s really funny to me. The comparison shouldn’t be between these guys and the Tea Party, but between the protesters and the GOP. I can find positions as extreme among elected GOP officials without breaking a sweat.
Marxists advocating the death of capitalism? GOP has elected officials and candidates who want no taxes on unearned income— on capital gains. They want capital to be elevated over everything, and only labor to be taxed. But somehow, they’re not treated as thought they’re extremists.
Even though they are. Every bit as much as the ‘revolutionaries’ in the park.
Ding!
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jaunte Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:38:25pm |
[Link: www.mercurynews.com…]
“Well, we thought they looked uncomfortable.”
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:39:12pm |
re: #79 jaunte
Salmon vandals strike again, release 20,000 fish into bay
“Well, we thought they looked uncomfortable.”
linky no worky
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Alexzander Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:41:07pm |
re: #58 Killgore Trout
Charles said on the previous thread…
he lucked into it. The Tea Party dusted off the old model of the of the anti-communist right. Libertarians and the religious right held together by the John Birch Society and McCarthy era paranoia. This is why I found researching Adbusters so illuminating. He’s using the model of the Situationists . It’s a collaboration of Marxists, labor unions and anarchists (Paulians). It explains the Tea Party, OWS and G20 riots. It’s a recycled formula but still useful. Useful idiots on both sides of the political spectrum eagerly flock to these destructive movements no matter how many times they repeat themselves.
I’ve been reading Adbusters for over 10 years. I’ve read nearly every issue during those years and I’d say it doesn’t have an easy ideology that you can pin down. It has evolved over the years, in part due to changes in editorial leadership and in part due to the radicalization of the zeitgeist.
I’d say its evolved from a more tongue in cheek (think Bansky) critique of our excessively consumerist, heavily advertised, heavily medicated society, to a more anarchist revolutionary orientation.
I dont think I’ve ever seen support for Ron Paul in Adbusters, and it has never really focused on unions or syndicalism.
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Gus Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:42:07pm |
The average demographic of the OWS demonstrators is not consumerist enough to have as much political capital as the Tea Party. Money and spending power guides the political machine and will continue to do so.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:57:53pm |
re: #82 Alexzander
I dont think I’ve ever seen support for Ron Paul in Adbusters, and it has never really focused on unions or syndicalism.
Yeah I read it in the 90s. I started to prefer Stay Free in the 00s when I was jet setting to NYC. But that’s a different story.
KT, otoh,never heard of it until a week ago, but he was right on the tea party! So you must listen to him on this or you’ll be sorry! /fingerwag
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 10, 2011 8:19:10pm |
re: #79 jaunte
[Link: www.mercurynews.com…]
“Well, we thought they looked uncomfortable.”
Oh Lord God Almighty.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 10, 2011 8:28:28pm |
re: #83 Gus 802
The average demographic of the OWS demonstrators is not consumerist enough to have as much political capital as the Tea Party. Money and spending power guides the political machine and will continue to do so.
What would you say the average demographic is? I keep being told they’re exactly like me. I buy all the shit I can get my hands on.
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engineer cat Mon, Oct 10, 2011 9:00:53pm |
i agree with the protesters that i agree with, and i disagree with the other ones
people will argue, elections will be held, time will march on, and nothing will change
try and disagree with that heheheheheheh….
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reine.de.tout Mon, Oct 10, 2011 9:22:50pm |
re: #13 Charles
Just make sure to clean up your own trash. And don’t do that weird finger waving thing.
Coming in late, catching up, and I’m still laughing every time this thing crosses my mind. I probably need some sleep.
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boredtechindenver Tue, Oct 11, 2011 12:06:31am |
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boxhead Tue, Oct 11, 2011 1:27:40am |
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boxhead Tue, Oct 11, 2011 1:28:52am |
re: #88 engineer dog
i agree with the protesters that i agree with, and i disagree with the other ones
people will argue, elections will be held, time will march on, and nothing will change
try and disagree with that heheheheheheh…
I hope you are wrong…. on the no change thing… :)
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