Pajamas Media: OWS Twitter Hashtag is a ‘Neo-Swastika Power Symbol’

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We have a winner in today’s Sweepstakes of Wingnut Derp: our erstwhile friend Zombie, at our erstwhile employer Pajamas Media, pushing one of the most ridiculous (yet inadvertently hilarious) smears of Occupy Wall Street we’ve seen to date: The PJ Tatler � Bizarre neo-swastika reminiscent of “The Great Dictator” used as power symbol by OWS leaders.

Don’t these people see an echo of the swastika in their new power symbol? Don’t they realize that the early Nazi Party was (among other things, obviously) also overtly anti-capitalist? (“Hitler began to make the [Nazi] party much more public, and he organised the party’s biggest meeting yet of two thousand people, for 24 February 1920 in the Staatliches Hofbr�uhaus in M�nchen. … It was in this speech that Hitler, for the first time, enunciated the twenty-five points of the German Worker’s Party’s manifesto… In general, the manifesto was anti-Semitic, anti-capitalist, anti-democratic, anti-Marxist, and anti-liberal.”) Don’t they know that the early Nazis tried to garner sympathy with street rallies and marches?

Here’s the bizarre and sinister “neo-swastika power symbol” that has Zombie all lathered up and ranting about Nazis:

Folks, it’s a Twitter hashtag.

And now, you’ll have to excuse me while I literally LMAO.

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449 comments
1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:00:57am

It's making me think of "Tic Tac Toe"! The humanity!

2 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:01:36am

It's the Double Cross! OMG! 11ty eleven!

3 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:02:12am

You can't argue with the Stooges.

4 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:02:50am

TEH HASTAG IZ ROTATORED!1! DAT MAEK IT TEH STAN!1!TY

5 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:02:51am

This will not escape the attention of Glenn Beck, an expert on such arcane symbology. Remember the young Barack Obama leading Mussolini's Chariot?

6 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:03:15am

His defense of his "theory" in the comments section should be in the OP, too.

7 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:03:44am

What's a "power symbol" anyway?

8 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:04:29am

"Its something I don't quite understand... better go with a Nazi origin to play it safe."

"Um... its frozen yogurt."

"Frozen yogurt was made by the Nazis, eh?"

9 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:04:30am

re: #7 Sergey Romanov

What's a "power symbol" anyway?

It is a symbol of power. Sheesh.

10 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:04:53am

With the Atlanta jazz hands of consensus, why do you need to make anything up to make fun of them?

11 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:05:13am

re: #7 Sergey Romanov

What's a "power symbol" anyway?

This.

12 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:05:18am

Hmmm... they would have had the same reaction if they used the percent sign. Or the @ (at sign) or anything else for that matter. Any sign that they OWS is trying to become more cohesive and organized is threatening to these folks.

The triple face palm is most appropriate.

13 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:06:32am

re: #10 EmmmieG

With the Atlanta jazz hands of consensus, why do you need to make anything up to make fun of them?

Same reason why when they had a chance to intelligently oppose Obama, they chose to go with "He's a marxist muslim born in Kenya!"

14 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:06:59am

Semiotics is a tricky bizniz. Certainly not for hot-headed ideologues.

15 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:07:19am

Well, it has straight lines arranged in a vaguely-squarish shape.

This means that the dollar sign, the at sign and the percent sign are the same.

Don't get me started on the asterisk.

16 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:07:56am

It may “just” be a hashtag, but that doesn’t lessen its significance as a power symbol. -- Zombie

Seriously? How does this guy sleep at night? Is he afraid of his own shadow. Sure enough, OWS has only added to the wingnuts' mental problems. Kind of expected this to happen.

17 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:08:22am

re: #15 EmmmieG

Well, it has straight lines arranged in a vaguely-squarish shape.

This means that the dollar sign, the at sign and the percent sign are the same.

Don't get me started on the asterisk.

Hey, who does like dat as(terisk)?

18 dragonath  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:08:28am

Does this mean my keyboard has the symbol of Liberal Fascism?

Conspiracy!!1

19 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:08:59am

Zombie is unfazed by the facts: HE KNOWS AN EVIL ROTATOR WHEN HE SEES ONE!

As a commenter notes, the symbol may have derived originally from the Twitter “hashtag,” but that in no way diminishes its creepiness. It may “just” be a rotated hashtag, but that doesn’t lessen its significance as a power symbol. The swastika, after all, was “just” a Buddhist good luck marking before the Nazis adopted it and started using it to indicate something else. And how did the Nazis alter it for their purposes? They rotated the Buddhist swastika 45 degrees, to give it a new association. Just as the hashtag sleeve marking has been rotated here.

20 theheat  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:09:28am
Those aren't swastikas! They're Navajo peace symbols!

This is too good not to share. Yes, it's another Hitler "Fallen" parody, but one of the best.

21 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:10:01am

My favorite;

The Twitter hashtag was my first thought too. But that doesn’t take away from the sinister aspect of this whole movement. After all, the swastika itself used to be a Buddhist and Hindu religious symbol before the Nazis took it over.

Yeah, at first I totally thought of the logical answer too, but now that you've attached some diabolical bullshit significance, I'm totally on board with it.

22 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:10:28am

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel

It's the Double Cross! OMG! 11ty eleven!

My old high school students would love this. They got to watch clips from "The Great Dictator" in history class.

23 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:10:31am

re: #19 Jimmah

Zombie is unfazed by the facts: HE KNOWS AN EVIL ROTATOR WHEN HE SEES ONE!

Butthurt Level Eleventy!!11ty

24 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:10:49am

By their logic, any symbol at '45 degrees' would count as a neo-nazi power symbol.

And yeah, as Sergey pointed out: The Great Dictator mocked Hitler. So if they're using symbology reminiscent of it, then aren't they mocking Hitler? If not, why not?

25 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:11:21am

re: #16 Gus 802

Seriously? How does this guy sleep at night? Is he afraid of his own shadow.

Yes. Yes he does.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Hahahaha! Trusted friends? They're all psychotic moonbats! I have no trusted friends. The contributors who sent in the stuff for this report have no idea who I am.

26 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:11:24am

re: #21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My favorite;

Yeah, at first I totally thought of the logical answer too, but now that you've attached some diabolical bullshit significance, I'm totally on board with it.

And they've been seen flying red flags too, which is an obvious sign of communism! Nazis and communists, all against Wall Street! Whatever is a guy dressed like an 18th century pimp to do?!

///

27 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:11:53am

So... According to Zombie, does this mean Hitler used Twitter?

28 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:13:14am

I find it sort of visually creepy, so I can understand part of Zomb's reaction.

The problem is that I think "I don't think I would wear a duct tape hashmark if I went to one of these things", and Zombie...well, you see the result.

29 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:13:16am

re: #25 Sergey Romanov

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Aaah, ya get used to it after a lifetime or two. Not just my friends are moonbats, but my family as well, and work colleagues, and acquaintances. In fact, to my knowledge, I have never met a person who ever voted Republican even once.

I feel yo pain.

30 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:13:57am

re: #26 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Whatever is a guy dressed like an 18th century pimp to do?!

///

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31 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:14:29am

This is more like a reference to Dictator Moe Hailstone of Moronica than it is the Nazis. I needed a LMAO today.

32 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:15:00am

You can't argue with a trauma.

33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:15:20am
34 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:15:27am

Has anyone started a ShitHitlerSays twitter account?

35 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:15:43am

re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

I find it sort of visually creepy, so I can understand part of Zomb's reaction.

I guess you think more The Wave instead of Chaplin, though?

36 CuriousLurker  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:16:20am

Charles: I keep getting "Error:403" when I try to tweet this story, so I'm going to do it via Tweetdeck.

37 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:16:57am

re: #36 CuriousLurker

Charles: I keep getting "Error:403" when I try to tweet this story, so I'm going to do it via Tweetdeck.

I get that sometimes.

38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:16:59am

re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

I find it sort of visually creepy, so I can understand part of Zomb's reaction.

The problem is that I think "I don't think I would wear a duct tape hashmark if I went to one of these things", and Zombie...well, you see the result.

You try to make a "%" out duct-tape.

39 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:17:17am

So, showing up with red flags and "power symbol" hashtags is something to shake and shiver over.

But a bunch of folks showing up with rifles and handguns? Why, they're just a bunch of patriotic Americans, exercisin' their rights!

Only in America!

40 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:17:56am

re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You try to make a "%" out duct-tape.

I think you've hit on the real issue.

It's easy.

Anyone can do it.

41 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:18:09am

Basement cat hashtag.

Ceiling cat hashtag.

Big oil hashtag.

42 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:18:29am

re: #34 iceweasel

Has anyone started a ShitHitlerSays twitter account?

If I had time I would love to make @ShitWingnutsSay and @ShitMoonbatsSay

43 theheat  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:18:29am

re: #33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Chaplin was a bit of a weirdo, but as an actor and director he was brilliant. This was jaw dropping.

44 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:19:12am

re: #24 Obdicut

By their logic, any symbol at '45 degrees' would count as a neo-nazi power symbol.

And yeah, as Sergey pointed out: The Great Dictator mocked Hitler. So if they're using symbology reminiscent of it, then aren't they mocking Hitler? If not, why not?

45 DAGREASE IZ TEH STAN ANGEL!1!TY

45 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:19:20am

re: #42 ArchangelMichael

If I had time I would love to make @ShitWingnutsSay and @ShitMoonbatsSay

Hey AM! It's great to see you. How goes it?

And I agree-- those would be awesome accounts if you had the time to do them properly.

46 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:20:08am

re: #23 Gus 802

Butthurt Level Eleventy!!11ty

Help! I'm trapped by anarchists!

47 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:20:19am

re: #41 Gus 802

Basement cat hashtag.

Ceiling cat hashtag.

Big oil hashtag.

BIG HASHTAG IS COMING FOR US!

48 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:20:53am

re: #35 000G

I guess you think more The Wave instead of Chaplin, though?

I'm not entirely sure what I'm responding to, except possibly, a culturally conditioned dim view of people wearing symbols on their sleeves, and the general cross-like shape of said symbol.

It does tweak me a little. I like it better now that I associate it with Chaplin, though.

49 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:21:18am

re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You try to make a "%" out duct-tape.

Slash, two little squares for dots...ain't so hard!!

50 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:22:28am

re: #48 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't like it too. But I guess the sensitivity to these matters varies, and not all folks wear it on sleeves, as those photos show.

51 JAFO  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:22:47am

re: #49 SanFranciscoZionist

Slash, two little squares for dots...ain't so hard!!

There's always a literalist in the group, isn't there?

52 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:24:28am

re: #49 SanFranciscoZionist

Slash, two little squares for dots...ain't so hard!!

But that could be misconstrued as a division symbol turned at a clearly malevolent 45 degree angle.

53 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:24:39am

re: #48 SanFranciscoZionist

The 8 points of the hashtag do look "aggressive", for the lack of a better word.

Still, as a joke about Dr. Freud goes, sometimes a banana is only a banana.

54 laZardo  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:24:39am

re: #49 SanFranciscoZionist

Slash, two little squares for dots...ain't so hard!!

Oh come on, you can't be that lazy that you can't cut a circle!

55 prairiefire  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:24:39am

re: #48 SanFranciscoZionist

It tweaks me a little, too. I don't think I like arm bands in general.

56 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:24:56am

re: #50 Sergey Romanov

I don't like it too. But I guess the sensitivity to these matters varies, and not all folks wear it on sleeves, as those photos show.

I expect if it catches on, t-shirts will become the normal way of wearing it.

57 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:25:24am

re: #41 Gus 802

I have proof of secret underground commie hashtag.

Commies

58 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:26:09am

re: #54 laZardo

Oh come on, you can't be that lazy that you can't cut a circle!

I need work. Maybe I can set up as a duct tape symbol applique artist at OccupySF or Oakland. Will cut dots out of duct tape for food.

59 CuriousLurker  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:26:14am

re: #34 iceweasel

Has anyone started a ShitHitlerSays twitter account?

That one was taken, but I just changed one of the ones I wasn't using to YouAreANaziIf. LOL

60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:26:18am

re: #40 EmmmieG

I think you've hit on the real issue.

It's easy.

Anyone can do it.

Kid..."Mom! Can you bring more duct-tape down into the basement?"
Mom... "Why dear?"
Kid... "I can't get this right!"
Mom... "I'll come down and help you." (walks down the steps)
"Is that a... a... swastika?"
Kid... "No, mom! It's a hashtag".
Mom... "Drugs! You're on drugs!" (wails and runs back upstairs).

61 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:27:02am

Ripper: Do you realize that fluoridation the hashtag is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?

62 Henchman Ghazi-808  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:27:23am

Scare quotes and hashtags and acorns, oh my!

63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:28:02am

re: #49 SanFranciscoZionist

Slash, two little squares for dots...ain't so hard!!

Sez you. I just got tangled up in duct-tape and fell down.

64 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:28:25am

re: #61 Gus 802

Ripper: Do you realize that fluoridation the hashtag is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?

A foreign symbol is introduced into our precious beautiful minds without the knowledge of the individual.

65 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:28:29am

re: #36 CuriousLurker

Charles: I keep getting "Error:403" when I try to tweet this story, so I'm going to do it via Tweetdeck.

Yeah, that's some kind of Twitter update limit.

66 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:28:37am

The hashtag is a plot and conspiracy conceived by the evil Dr. Holdren and Folsom Street homersexuals!

67 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:28:45am

re: #61 Gus 802

Ripper: Do you realize that fluoridation the hashtag is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?

Initiate Wing Attack Plan R! #POE #OPE

68 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:28:55am

re: #63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can you get up?

69 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:29:52am

re: #66 Gus 802

Those same homosexuals who conspire to hire only supermodels with unnaturally masculine jawlines!

70 RanchTooth  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:30:48am

Before Twitter, "#" was the number sign.

"I am a number. I am significant. I am of the 99%" Is what this says to me.

How deranged does one have to become to turn a number sign (hash-tag, whatever) into a swastika? My. Dear. God.

71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:30:49am

re: #68 Sergey Romanov

Can you get up?

No. That means the duct-tape is working.

72 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:31:17am

You have to admit. They sure have an easy job over at Pajamas Media. Just write or say anything stupid and their mouth breathing audience will eat it up. Easy red meat served daily to a small yet noticeable cadre of fools.

73 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:31:26am

re: #71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No. That means the duct-tape is working.

Lemme guess. Your doggie is typing for you.

74 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:31:37am

Look we know it's a symbol of evil and violence because of all the slashes which sound like hashes that are used to make the hash tag, let's face it it's really a SLASH tag and that's what these people want to do, slash the rich with swords like the evil muslim-fascists do when they behead people!

//

I could go on but I think the point is clear...

75 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:31:52am

re: #72 Gus 802

And they get paid for it. What's not to like?

76 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:32:14am

re: #41 Gus 802

Ceiling Hashtag

77 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:32:20am

re: #73 Sergey Romanov

There... is... one... free... finger.

I'll let you guess which one.

78 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:32:33am

Just noticed this comment over there:

14. Black Sabbath
Not smart on the part of OWS. If I am a cop and looking to shut them down, I go after the obviously marked leaders first. Strike the shepherds and the sheep will scatter.
October 17, 2011 - 11:19 am Link to this Comment | Reply

Ah yes. Nothing like right-wing non-violence.

79 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:32:49am

X

There. I just typed 50% of a swastika. Obviously, this post has diabolical Nazi origins.

80 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:32:57am

re: #76 Obdicut

Ceiling Hashtag

Are you making these?

81 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:33:16am

re: #74 Dreggas

It's like a two-fingered Wolverine leaving his mark ... twice... or a drunken Zorro trying to leave a signature... Violent!

82 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:33:28am

re: #75 Sergey Romanov

And they get paid for it. What's not to like?

Does it pay well? I've been reading this stuff for years. I could do this.

83 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:33:29am

re: #79 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

X

There. I just typed 50% of a swastika. Obviously, this post has diabolical Nazi origins.

+

and there is the other half.

EVIL!

84 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:33:36am

re: #80 Gus 802

Yep.

85 Henchman Ghazi-808  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:33:42am

re: #80 Gus 802

Are you making these?

He's fomenting them. ZOMG!

86 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:33:46am

re: #77 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There... is... one... free... finger.

I'll let you guess which one.

Little, of course.

87 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:33:55am

re: #78 Gus 802

even more amusing that they think there are "leaders" and this will fall apart if those people are targeted. This movement has been quite leaderless and more collective.

88 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:34:05am

re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist

Contact the Surgeon General of Beverly Hills. /snake

89 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:34:13am

re: #78 Gus 802

Just noticed this comment over there:

Ah yes. Nothing like right-wing non-violence.

Whoa! With a nice response.

Rob

Good thing you’re not a cop. And going after protest “leaders” is exactly what happens in totalitarian regimes that want to shut down dissent. Pajama and its zombies are in the wrong country.
October 17, 2011 - 11:31 am Link to this Comment | Reply

90 jvic  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:34:55am

1. The practice of wearing American-flag lapel pins made me uncomfortable when it started. I've gotten used to it, but I don't do it and can't say I approve of it.

2. re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

I find it sort of visually creepy, so I can understand part of Zomb's reaction.

The problem is that I think "I don't think I would wear a duct tape hashmark if I went to one of these things", and Zombie...well, you see the result.

You want creepy? Suppose the Tea Party develops their own symbol and we see two numrically significant sets of people walking around literally wearing their political allegiance on their sleeves.

91 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:35:06am

re: #82 SanFranciscoZionist

Does it pay well? I've been reading this stuff for years. I could do this.

Sry, ur too smart.

92 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:35:20am

re: #81 Sergey Romanov

More like the evil nasty ass honey badger

93 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:35:48am

re: #92 Dreggas

Oh yeah. That nafty fuck.

94 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:36:18am

OT: I built a web site for a musician here on LI, and the guy (and his band) have wingnut tendencies - he's actually been a guest on Savage's show a number of times, and his band members post Tea Party and anti-Obama stuff incessantly on Facebook.

I just got an email from his bass player. The font? Comic Sans. The entire email reads like a 'wingnut' post here.

I got a small laugh out of it.

95 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:36:28am

Hah. Check out this exchange:

15. WarriorBanker

There’s stupid – and then there’s Pajamas Media stupid.

I love it. Just when I think you guys couldn’t be more of a joke, you publish this?
October 17, 2011 - 11:27 am Link to this Comment | Reply


Zombie

I sincerely hope that everyone in the OWS agrees with you and completely ignores this post.

And that they keep using this symbol, deeming as “stupid” any concerns about how it is being used.
October 17, 2011 - 11:30 am Link to this Comment | Reply

96 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:36:40am

I followed the links over to Marco's site. The Hashtag is by far the least problematic aspect of the protest. From a political perspective the signs against fighting terrorism and wars is going to be trouble for Obama. I really don't see much chance he's going to benefit from this movement.

97 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:37:49am

Notice how Zombie say "they".

And notice how he only has two, count them, one, two, images of these hashtags.

Not 20. Not 30. Not 100. Just two people.

Derp.

98 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:38:33am

re: #96 Killgore Trout

I followed the links over to Marco's site. The Hashtag is by far the least problematic aspect of the protest. From a political perspective the signs against fighting terrorism and wars is going to be trouble for Obama. I really don't see much chance he's going to benefit from this movement.

Your concern is noted.

Not gonna happen.

99 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:39:05am

re: #95 Gus 802

I hope it doesn't continue because it's plain bad taste and ugly. But no more than that.

100 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:39:15am

re: #97 Gus 802

Notice how Zombie say "they".

And notice how he only has two, count them, one, two, images of these hashtags.

Not 20. Not 30. Not 100. Just two people.

Derp.

Zombie used to do the same thing with antiwar or antibush protestors-- different photos of the same cracked individual, in order to pretend it was a "movement". Not surprised he's up to the same sleazy tricks here.

101 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:40:36am

re: #99 Sergey Romanov

I hope it doesn't continue because it's plain bad taste and ugly. But no more than that.

The only bad taste I'm seeing is a couple of people wearing shirts that are probably two sizes too small for them.

//

102 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:40:58am

re: #96 Killgore Trout

I followed the links over to Marco's site. The Hashtag is by far the least problematic aspect of the protest. From a political perspective the signs against fighting terrorism and wars is going to be trouble for Obama. I really don't see much chance he's going to benefit from this movement.

A lot of it is anti-Obama Disappointed left, like october2011 and such.

Why would or should he "benefit" from it?

103 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:41:17am

re: #96 Killgore Trout

I followed the links over to Marco's site. The Hashtag is by far the least problematic aspect of the protest. From a political perspective the signs against fighting terrorism and wars is going to be trouble for Obama. I really don't see much chance he's going to benefit from this movement.

You should blog about that. I don't think we've heard it before.

104 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:41:30am

The interpretation of this pic looks suspect as well...


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Neo-cannibals seemed to be everywhere. Above, a sign adorned with a skull with a red anarchist ‘A,’ and bloody knife and fork recall the peak of the psychedelic revolution in 1969, when Charles Manson and his crew of hippy chicks went on a murder spree and bragged about defiling the corpses of their wealthy victims with flatware. President Obama’s friends, infamous terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn, shocked the world by publicly rejoicing and declaring the three-fingered fork sign as a new revolutionary symbol. This guy looks ready to chow down.

I sort of doubt the sign was made with Charles Manson in mind. Anyone recognize the 'n' and 'e' symbols? I've never seen them before.

105 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:41:56am

re: #92 Dreggas

This has a paragraph in the Wiki description of the Honey Badger.

106 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:42:17am

re: #96 Killgore Trout

I followed the links over to Marco's site. The Hashtag is by far the least problematic aspect of the protest. From a political perspective the signs against fighting terrorism and wars is going to be trouble for Obama. I really don't see much chance he's going to benefit from this movement.

Doubt OWS is about benefiting the President.

107 Varek Raith  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:42:26am

Lol.
This made my day.
XD

108 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:42:46am
109 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:43:09am

re: #102 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Why would or should he "benefit" from it?

Two words: Republican President

110 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:43:19am

re: #104 Killgore Trout

The interpretation of this pic looks suspect as well...

Image: 101511_0384.jpg

I sort of doubt the sign was made with Charles Manson in mind. Anyone recognize the 'n' and 'e' symbols? I've never seen them before.

He definitely looks like a leader. I'd definitely line up behind him. He's a winner.

111 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:43:19am

From Marco: This leather-clad woman brought her own megaphone and spoke in a faux-Russian accent about “extra-terrestrial financing,” and other important topics relevant to the day’s march. She calls herself Mufti which is a reference to the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hitlers guest in Berlin and fellow genocidal war criminal during WWII.

??? Hon, I don't think that's what the reference is meant to be. I have a hunch.

112 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:43:53am

re: #104 Killgore Trout

The interpretation of this pic looks suspect as well...

Image: 101511_0384.jpg

I sort of doubt the sign was made with Charles Manson in mind. Anyone recognize the 'n' and 'e' symbols? I've never seen them before.

Too funny -- "Eat the Rich" is a book by ... wait for it ... P.J. O'Rourke.

And a movie by Peter Richardson.

And a song by Motorhead.

Yeah, neo-cannibals. Good grief.

113 Varek Raith  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:45:05am

If OWS were so clearly commie/whatever, why do so many of their critics post bullshit like this? Can't they do this honestly? Why resort to so many lies?

114 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:45:07am

re: #112 Charles

Or, he's an Aerosmith fan.

Eat the Rich

115 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:45:32am

re: #104 Killgore Trout

The interpretation of this pic looks suspect as well...

Image: 101511_0384.jpg

Does it, now.

Originating site: [Link: www.lookingattheleft.com...] e_e

Anyone recognize the 'n' and 'e' symbols? I've never seen them before.

Me neither. I'll look around.

116 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:45:33am

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Two words: Republican President

Obama's been in trouble long before OWS. Has nothing to do with these protests. The majority of American's aren't paying much attention to them other than what they might see in the news. They don't need a bunch of OWS protesters to let them know that they economy is in the tank. They're not going to say, "you know, those OWS people are right! I never noticed it before but we really are in a financial mess!"

117 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:45:51am

re: #111 SanFranciscoZionist

Icke?

118 laZardo  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:45:53am

re: #104 Killgore Trout

Not sure about the E, but the "N" is actually an arrow.

119 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:46:12am

For all those "concerned" about this movement for Obama's sake. I hope you are actually going to campaign for him. Like actual involvement beyond writing comments on a blog.

120 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:46:30am

re: #112 Charles

Too funny -- "Eat the Rich" is a book by ... wait for it ... P.J. O'Rourke.

And a movie by Peter Richardson.

And a song by Motorhead.

Yeah, neo-cannibals. Good grief.

Aerosmith has a song called 'Eat The Rich' as well.

But seizing upon this pic as another thing to be concerned about it, well, a little batty.

121 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:46:43am

re: #119 recusancy

For all those "concerned" about this movement for Obama's sake. I hope you are actually going to campaign for him. Like actual involvement beyond writing comments on a blog.

I have a policy of not giving money to millionaires.

//

122 gummitch  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:47:09am

Zombie

I’m not being paranoid — just pointing out the inevitable tendency toward hierarchy and totalitarianism in most populist movements – -even those who claim to stand for the exact opposite.

Uh, didn't the Tea Party claim to be populist?

Just in case OWS isn't scary enough, just you wait! It will rapidly (in just a few comments at that blog, in fact) become a giant totalitarian state. Just like the anti-war movement and the civil rights movement and . . .

123 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:47:18am

re: #111 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't see how "Mufti" is a reference to the Grand Mufti. More outtaass claims?

124 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:47:48am

re: #118 laZardo

Hmm. A mix of the arrow with male and female signs.

125 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:48:26am

Got a frothy wingnut posting up a storm over at The Vicious Babushka. My guess it's the same guy who wanted to know why I disappeared from Freezer Pubic for 3 years.

126 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:48:30am

re: #124 Sergey Romanov

Hmm. A mix of the arrow with male and female signs.

Obviously a fan of Prince.
/

127 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:49:00am

re: #119 recusancy

For all those "concerned" about this movement for Obama's sake. I hope you are actually going to campaign for him. Like actual involvement beyond writing comments on a blog.

Er, yes.

128 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:49:07am

If I had to figure out the meaning of every symbol some street urchin is wearing I'd never get anything done. Obviously, some people never rode on a subway.

129 Varek Raith  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:49:19am

This is why I discount right wing criticisms of OWS.
In their kooky world hashtags=NAZIS.
Clearly they are insane.
;)

130 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:49:35am

And the only thing I'm thinking is "what's this dork doing wearing a Raiders cap in Denver for?"

//

131 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:49:41am

re: #113 Varek Raith

If OWS were so clearly commie/whatever, why do so many of their critics post bullshit like this? Can't they do this honestly? Why resort to so many lies?

Because they're still waiting for Obama to reply to accusations he's a sekrit Muslim from Kenya raised on Marxist dogma to hate America and have some free time on their hands in the mean time.

132 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:49:53am

re: #97 Gus 802


This is my interpretation of the thought process of the guy who wrote this article.


I mean, did he realize that the symbol on the tie-die shirt isn't even rotated 45 degrees?

133 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:49:54am

re: #115 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The "n" looks like the international squatter symbol

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

E-in-a-circle appears to be "equality".

134 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:50:01am

re: #104 Killgore Trout

The interpretation of this pic looks suspect as well...

Image: 101511_0384.jpg

I sort of doubt the sign was made with Charles Manson in mind. Anyone recognize the 'n' and 'e' symbols? I've never seen them before.

The "N" is made up of male and female symbols.

135 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:50:08am

re: #130 Gus 802

And the only thing I'm thinking is "what's this dork doing wearing a Raiders cap in Denver for?"

//

PIRATES!

136 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:50:08am

re: #104 Killgore Trout

The interpretation of this pic looks suspect as well...

Image: 101511_0384.jpg

I sort of doubt the sign was made with Charles Manson in mind. Anyone recognize the 'n' and 'e' symbols? I've never seen them before.

"N" is a representation of the squatters' sign. the skull refers probably to Libertarian/Anarchist/Pirate flag. Don't have 'E', but think it was on the old antiwar photo this week.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

137 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:50:16am

re: #127 SanFranciscoZionist

Er, yes.

I hope that the people at OWS are planning to vote for someone.

138 jvic  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:50:18am

re: #106 Decatur Deb

Doubt OWS is about benefiting the President.

It doesn't directly benefit the Establishments of either major party; I agree that it's not designed to. However, in today's scorched-earth political environment, IMO both parties are watching, polling, and focus-grouping closely to see if one gets hurt more, thereby giving the other a net benefit.

139 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:50:59am

re: #134 Alouette

The "N" is made up of male and female symbols.

That guy is a Raiders fan, and therefore an obvious douchebag.

140 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:51:02am

re: #122 gummitch

Zombie

I’m not being paranoid — just pointing out the inevitable tendency toward hierarchy and totalitarianism in most populist movements – -even those who claim to stand for the exact opposite.

Uh, didn't the Tea Party claim to be populist?

Just in case OWS isn't scary enough, just you wait! It will rapidly (in just a few comments at that blog, in fact) become a giant totalitarian state. Just like the anti-war movement and the civil rights movement and . . .

Obama's Negro Socialist Republic!!!1@

Coming fer mah stuff!!!!

141 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:51:04am

re: #111 SanFranciscoZionist

From Marco: This leather-clad woman brought her own megaphone and spoke in a faux-Russian accent about “extra-terrestrial financing,” and other important topics relevant to the day’s march. She calls herself Mufti which is a reference to the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hitlers guest in Berlin and fellow genocidal war criminal during WWII.

??? Hon, I don't think that's what the reference is meant to be. I have a hunch.

I think that's just somebody being snarky.

142 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:51:44am

And "eat the rich" is largely because of the Aerosmith song. It's a common saying with more radical types. Seriously. Where are these people living in?

Isolated.

143 Varek Raith  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:52:35am

re: #142 Gus 802

And "eat the rich" is largely because of the Aerosmith song. It's a common saying with more radical types. Seriously. Where are these people living in?

Isolated.

Rock is the music of the DEVIL!!!

144 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:52:57am

Ok, this is hysterical. 'Marco' talks to a Somali cab driver, studying biology, who says "What do they mean there's no jobs?"

This is how crazy OWS is making the Pajamas Media crew. Somali cabbies are now the GOOD guys.

The irony astounds me.

145 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:53:16am

While Corporate Profits Are At 60-Year High, Main Street Businesses Continue To Struggle

Even as the economy struggles, corporate profits continue to rise. Wells Fargo, the largest consumer lender in America, announced today that its third-quarter earnings rose 21 percent, to $4.1 billion. Citigroup, the nation’s third-largest bank, also released its earnings statement today, announcing that its third-quarter earnings rose 73 percent over last year, with $3.8 billion in profits. Even though JP Morgan Chase saw its earnings fall from a year ago, it still raked in more than $3 billion in profits.

Corporate profits as a share of the nation’s gross domestic product, in fact, are at their highest point since 1950. Recent snapshots, however, tell a much different story on Main Street, where small businesses are limping through an economic recovery that treated corporations much more kindly. According to the National Federation of Independent Businesses’ September report, two out of every five small businesses reported that profits are falling:

146 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:53:19am

re: #142 Gus 802

And "eat the rich" is largely because of the Aerosmith song. It's a common saying with more radical types. Seriously. Where are these people living in?

Isolated.

Steven Tyler - noted Marxist.
/

147 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:53:22am

Oh noes! Here come the NEO-CANNIBALS! They're everywhere.

148 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:53:26am

I'm glad OWS is punking conservatives with their indecipherable symbols and consensus decision-making.

Although, it's not like they needed much help being punked, by anyone.

149 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:53:31am

re: #142 Gus 802

And "eat the rich" is largely because of the Aerosmith song. It's a common saying with more radical types. Seriously. Where are these people living in?

Isolated.

Eat the Rich is on a par with Die Yuppie Scum-- both are clearly exhortations to violence and meant to be taken literally. //

150 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:53:38am

re: #137 SanFranciscoZionist

I hope that the people at OWS are planning to vote for someone.

Me too. Which is why I think it also imperative, that if you see this movement as too radical, you can make a small contribution and actually attend these events and engage with them. If moderates never show up it will never be a moderate movement.

151 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:53:45am

re: #142 Gus 802

Eat the Rich is a fun thing to wear to a rockabilly show but stupid to wear to the protests, but yeah, it's not an actual threat anymore than "Born to kick ass" t-shirt indicates the person is actually going to kick someone's ass, or was indeed fated to do so.

152 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:53:52am

re: #147 Charles

Oh noes! Here come the NEO-CANNIBALS! They're everywhere.

But we will be saved by neo-Neo!

153 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:53:57am

That's actually a really good name for a band. The Neo-Cannibals.

154 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:54:15am

re: #149 iceweasel

Eat the Rich is on a par with Die Yuppie Scum-- both are clearly exhortations to violence and meant to be taken literally. //

Or 'Jump, you fuckers.'
/

155 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:54:27am

re: #118 laZardo

Not sure about the E, but the "N" is actually an arrow.

Ah, that makes sense.

156 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:55:09am

re: #149 iceweasel

Eat the Rich is on a par with Die Yuppie Scum-- both are clearly exhortations to violence and meant to be taken literally. //

You know what's hilarious? Did you ever listen to or read some of the lyrics of original blues songs? You want violent rhetoric?

157 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:55:17am

re: #133 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The "n" looks like the international squatter symbol

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

E-in-a-circle appears to be "equality".

Isn't it also the Enclave from Fallout? Are we going to have to send Liberty Prime after those commies?

/

158 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:55:22am

re: #148 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I'm not so sure the communal decision-making's downside (like refusing Lewis a chance to speak) is worth the indecipherability of it. I think it's something that works much better on paper than in reality.

159 CuriousLurker  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:56:01am

Follow me & send me a DM if you find something good: @YouAreANaziIf

Going back to work. BBL

160 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:56:16am

re: #142 Gus 802

And "eat the rich" is largely because of the Aerosmith song. It's a common saying with more radical types. Seriously. Where are these people living in?

Isolated.

No, they're trolling. I see this all the time with the anti-Israel nuts I interact with online. Any word, any avatar photo, your last name, whatever it is, can be used to create a narrative and score points.

My married surname is shared with a rather famous racist. I've had more than one of these guys go off on a tangent about how I must be related to him, that show what Zionists are all about, you've been unmasked, hahaha, I can't believe you tried to argue with us while having a common Anglo surname that a bigot also has!!

This is the Pajamas Media equivalent. It's amusing to the troops, and easier than real journalism.

161 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:56:21am

Just when you think you're having a perfectly nice demonstration, here they come again. Those darned neo-cannibals.

162 Varek Raith  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:56:41am

re: #147 Charles

Oh noes! Here come the NEO-CANNIBALS! They're everywhere.

Image: company-name-win.png

163 engineer cat  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:56:47am

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Two words: Republican President

i'm beginning to think that Generic Republican isn't gonna run in 2012 after all

164 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:56:57am

re: #144 SanFranciscoZionist

Ok, this is hysterical. 'Marco' talks to a Somali cab driver, studying biology, who says "What do they mean there's no jobs?"

This is how crazy OWS is making the Pajamas Media crew. Somali cabbies are now the GOOD guys.

The irony astounds me.

Maybe he checked to make sure he was a Christian first.

165 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:56:58am

re: #153 Charles

That's actually a really good name for a band. The Neo-Cannibals.

Dunno. The Paleo-cannibals sounds better.

166 Varek Raith  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:57:04am

re: #161 Charles

Just when you think you're having a perfectly nice demonstration, here they come again. Those darned neo-cannibals.

Needs moar zombies!

167 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:57:08am

re: #90 jvic

Let me know when a significant number of people at OWS have this on your sleeve, wouldja?

168 EdDantes  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:57:28am

re: #153 Charles

We've already had "fine young cannibals'.

169 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:57:33am

re: #150 recusancy

Me too. Which is why I think it also imperative, that if you see this movement as too radical, you can make a small contribution and actually attend these events and engage with them. If moderates never show up it will never be a moderate movement.

Been there, done that, had some other stuff happen.

170 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:57:33am

What about the Fine Young Cannibals?

171 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:57:59am

re: #170 Gus 802

They drive me crazy.

172 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:58:00am

re: #168 EdDantes

We've already had "fine young cannibals'.

Damn it! You beat me by 5 seconds.

173 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:58:15am

re: #115 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Does it, now.

Originating site: [Link: www.lookingattheleft.com...] e_e

Me neither. I'll look around.

More from that site housing that pic KT linked:

Ever since Karl Marx defined his vision of the future, socialists have been awaiting the complete collapse of the world-wide free enterprise system, and the beginning of a cataclysmic international Marxist revolution. The Occupy Wall Street movement is supported by Communist Party USA, the Islamic Republic of Iran, communist dictators Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro, as well as the AFL-CIO, SEIU, Nancy Pelosi, Bill Ayers, Barack Obama, and the Democrat Party.

lmao

Trash scraped right off the top of glennbeck.com

174 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:58:46am

Eat the rich? Depends on which rich.

Here in Texas, for example, the wealthy subsist largely on steak dinners and politician-schmoozing barbecue, lots of fat and marbling. The west coast rich, otoh, eat only tofu and arugula with maybe a sliver of roast duck once in a while. The result is little more than very watery gristle and a few delicate bones. The longest established herds, the Eastern Establishment, are well, if blandly, nourished but they pursue a strenuous routine rowing for the Crew as juveniles and later in chasing the almighty dollar. They are consequently very lean but rather sinewy and a little on the gamy side.

175 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:58:48am
176 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:58:52am

re: #168 EdDantes

We've already had "fine young cannibals'.

So the Neo-Cannibals could be a cover band.

177 EdDantes  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:58:58am

re: #172 Gus 802

Damn it! You beat me by 5 seconds.

I'm just that good. :)

178 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:59:16am

re: #173 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

More from that site housing that pic KT linked:

lmao

Trash scraped right off the top of glennbeck.com

LOL "Deomcrat Party." What a dork.

179 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 11:59:54am

I'm off to the library...and the bank...and the grocery store.

Keep the home fires burning, and apply the orange duct tape symbols of your choice to your t-shirts.

180 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:00:13pm

I'm back for a short while. Got pissed at someone and have to take a break.

How is the afternoon so far?

181 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:00:39pm

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Two words: Republican President

Two more: desperate thinking

Since the wingnuts have no platforms of their own and only one viable candidate that everyone hates, yeah they're itching to hang OWS around Obama's neck.

Good luck with that, to them. They'll need it.

182 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:00:39pm

Yeah. The Democrats who signed off on the Patriot Act, Afghanistan War, Iraq War, etc. Yep, they're just like Hugo Chavez and Commies everywhere. Obama too!

What a bunch of brain dead imbeciles.

183 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:00:58pm

re: #174 Shiplord Kirel

there's marinades for that.

184 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:01:34pm

re: #180 ggt

It was good while it lasted. How's Bother Puppy?

185 laZardo  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:01:38pm

re: #182 Gus 802

Yeah. The Democrats who signed off on the Patriot Act, Afghanistan War, Iraq War, etc. Yep, they just like Hugo Chavez and Commies everywhere. Obama too!

What a bunch of brain dead imbeciles.

Don't forget Libya.

186 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:01:49pm

Yo wingnuts! I know some of you are reading this.

President Barack Obama got Osama bin Laden!

Checkmate!

187 engineer cat  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:01:49pm

is supported by Communist Party USA, the Islamic Republic of Iran, communist dictators Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro

i think fidel castro these days is more worried about when the nurse will be back with his next glass of milk

188 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:02:04pm

re: #176 SanFranciscoZionist

So the Neo-Cannibals could be a cover tribute band.

FTFY

189 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:02:25pm

Wow, lots of traffic from Facebook today, going to the post about the 2007 anti-war photo. Someone must have posted the link at a high-traffic page there.

It's kind of irritating that Facebook uses a redirected link that stops you from seeing the real referring page. I don't know where it's posted.

190 Donna Ballard  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:02:38pm

Ya know, it kinda looks like she ripped her sleeve and did a really bad job of trying to repair it. I'm just sayin...
Heh, duct tape, they'll use it for anything these days except ducts! Silly lady...

191 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:02:48pm

This is about the only sign I can get behind...
Image: 101511_0000.jpg

Pretty lady too. The rest of the protest is not something I'd endorse. .

192 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:03:13pm

re: #165 Sergey Romanov

Dunno. The Paleo-cannibals sounds better.

Doesn't roll off the tongue very well. Would end-up being shorted to PallyCans! or to PC and then everyone one would be confused.

How about Urban Cannibals?

Of course, I have no idea how this topic began, so disregard if totally off.

193 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:04:09pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

This is about the only sign I can get behind...
Image: 101511_0000.jpg

Pretty lady too. The rest of the protest is not something I'd endorse. .

She says she loves you.

194 Donna Ballard  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:04:36pm

re: #189 Charles

Wow, lots of traffic from Facebook today, going to the post about the 2007 anti-war photo. Someone must have posted the link at a high-traffic page there.

It's kind of irritating that Facebook uses a redirected link that stops you from seeing the real referring page. I don't know where it's posted.

So what else is new... Heaven forbid they should actually allow anyone to see where the info they're using comes from...

195 EdDantes  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:05:05pm

re: #193 Decatur Deb

"...and you know that can't be bad".

196 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:05:16pm

re: #193 Decatur Deb

She says she loves you.

Ah, there are scribbles on her boobs. I hadn't noticed.

197 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:05:32pm

I don't see anything wrong with any of these signs:

Image: 101511_9931.jpg

Nothing radical there.

198 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:05:38pm

re: #192 ggt

Doesn't roll off the tongue very well. Would end-up being shorted to PallyCans! or to PC and then everyone one would be confused.

How about Urban Cannibals?

Of course, I have no idea how this topic began, so disregard if totally off.

Heh. Well, there's already "Cannibal Corpse", what beats that?

199 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:05:45pm

re: #195 EdDantes

"...and you know that can't be bad".

WHOOOOOOOOOO! (Screamed while shaking head.) :)

200 Donna Ballard  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:05:46pm

re: #187 engineer dog

is supported by Communist Party USA, the Islamic Republic of Iran, communist dictators Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro

i think fidel castro these days is more worried about when the nurse will be back with his next glass of milk

And the cookies! He's gotta have his cookies...

201 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:05:55pm

re: #189 Charles

Wow, lots of traffic from Facebook today, going to the post about the 2007 anti-war photo. Someone must have posted the link at a high-traffic page there.

It's kind of irritating that Facebook uses a redirected link that stops you from seeing the real referring page. I don't know where it's posted.

Have you tried asking here: [Link: facebook.stackoverflow.com...] to see if there's a hack or something?

202 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:06:05pm

re: #197 Charles

I don't see anything wrong with any of these signs:

Image: 101511_9931.jpg

Nothing radical there.

End the Fed?

203 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:06:09pm

re: #196 Killgore Trout

Ah, there are scribbles on her boobs. I hadn't noticed.

Is that bad?

204 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:06:20pm

re: #197 Charles

I don't see anything wrong with any of these signs:

Image: 101511_9931.jpg

Nothing radical there.

Nice looking group too.

205 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:06:33pm

re: #196 Killgore Trout

Ah, there are scribbles on her boobs. I hadn't noticed.

Cherchez le boobs.

206 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:07:26pm

re: #202 Sergey Romanov

End the Fed?

It's stupid but I don't consider it radical -- in fact it's a mainstream idea on the right wing at the moment.

207 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:07:36pm

re: #197 Charles

I don't see anything wrong with any of these signs:

Image: 101511_9931.jpg

Nothing radical there.

but, but, but there is one of those hippy peace-nick sign symbol thingys on one of the hand-written sighs.

Isn't that proof?

/

208 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:07:49pm

re: #196 Killgore Trout

Ah, there are scribbles on her boobs. I hadn't noticed.

Actually, the top side of a heart, with the words 'I love you' in French.

I guess the French thing would be a deal-breaker.
/

209 RadicalModerate  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:07:56pm

re: #115 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Does it, now.

Originating site: [Link: www.lookingattheleft.com...] e_e

Me neither. I'll look around.

Even more from the cited site: Two pro-Pamela Geller and SIOA articles, one of which describes her thusly:

The brave organizer, Pamela Geller. See her amazing blog, Atlas Shrugs. There are videos, interviews, and text about the Ground Zero mosque, about honor killings, sharia, and much more. Add it to your daily reading list if you want to understand Islam and the middle east.

Killgore, you're better than this.

210 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:08:24pm

re: #208 makeitstop

Actually, the top side of a heart, with the words 'I love you' in French.

I guess the French thing would be a deal-breaker.
/

Change the name to Freedom Boobs.

211 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:08:52pm

re: #158 Obdicut

Well, it's not what I would do. I can't stand being around consensus decision-making.

Just the same, I'm glad it frustrates and enrages conservatives.

212 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:09:09pm

re: #208 makeitstop

Actually, the top side of a heart, with the words 'I love you' in French.

I guess the French thing would be a deal-breaker.
/

Definitely! I tried learning the language once. All I accomplished to learn was say: "I don't understand" in French. Couldn't tell you how to write it.

213 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:09:20pm

current GOP chairman of the House Armed Services Committee promises to hold up defense spending over social issues after pledging not to hold up defense spending over social issues.

When Republicans won the House majority in November 2010, Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon (R-CA) — the current chairman of the House Armed Services Committee — pledged to pass clean defense bills that were “not weighed down” by social issues. “Congress should pass clean legislation — without the liberal social agenda items Speaker (Nancy) Pelosi and (Senate Majority Leader) Harry Reid have insisted on attaching in the run-up to the election,” McKeon said, referring to amendments to repeal Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and enact hate crimes protections. He added: “The National Defense Authorization Act—especially in wartime—should be focused on one core equity: caring and providing for the men and women in uniform and their families.”

But McKeon is ready to break his promise. Following the repeal of the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy, the Department of Defense announced that it would allow chaplains to perform same-sex marriages on military bases. McKeon is threatening to derail the entire Defense Authorization Bill unless it includes an amendment outlawing the practice:

214 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:09:30pm

I guess we're supposed to laugh at the hippies here, but what's wrong with the messages on their signs?

Image: 101511_0367.jpg

215 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:09:32pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

There's a sign?

216 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:10:53pm

re: #214 Charles

I guess we're supposed to laugh at the hippies here, but what's wrong with the message on their signs?

Image: 101511_0367.jpg

Uh, they're spelled correctly?

217 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:11:18pm

re: #214 Charles

I guess we're supposed to laugh at the hippies here, but what's wrong with the messages on their signs?

Image: 101511_0367.jpg

Don't laugh at'em, mace'em!
/

218 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:12:09pm

Scary guy with bandana, but again - what's wrong with this message?

Image: 101511_0078.jpg

219 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:12:20pm

re: #214 Charles

I guess we're supposed to laugh at the hippies here, but what's wrong with the messages on their signs?

Image: 101511_0367.jpg

Like 90% of the signs on that site are not bad.

220 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:12:26pm

re: #214 Charles

I guess we're supposed to laugh at the hippies here, but what's wrong with the messages on their signs?

Image: 101511_0367.jpg

They'll laugh at them. Or the guy on the left. Then in the next breath they'll try and tell you how much they love Bob Marley or Jimi Hendrix.

221 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:12:49pm

re: #197 Charles

I don't see anything wrong with any of these signs:

Image: 101511_9931.jpg

Nothing radical there.

I would object to "end the Fed". Although I can understand the sentiment of "end war" I would still rather support Obama as a wartime president.

222 Randall Gross  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:12:50pm

The phone company is after me! I know because they put their Octothorpe symbol on all mae phonses!!!!11ty

223 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:13:13pm

re: #216 Alouette

Uh, they're spelled correctly?

Except the guy with the cardboard tear-out sign didn't think ahead and leave himself enough room to finish spelling 'education'

It bothers me.

224 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:14:04pm

re: #218 Charles

Scary guy with bandana, but again - what's wrong with this message?

Image: 101511_0078.jpg

But but but ... bandana ... :(

225 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:14:20pm

re: #216 Alouette

Uh, they're spelled correctly?

Yes.

226 wrenchwench  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:14:46pm

This is the funniest thing I've seen in an erstwhile.

227 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:14:56pm

re: #218 Charles

Scary guy with bandana, but again - what's wrong with this message?

Image: 101511_0078.jpg

How scary can he be when he's wearing a T-shirt that references World of Warcraft?

228 RadicalModerate  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:14:56pm

re: #209 RadicalModerate

Scrolling further down on the site, I found this:

A pro Geert-Wilders article.
[Link: www.lookingattheleft.com...]

9/11 Ground Zero Mosque Protest gathers Victims’ Family Members, NYPD, FDNY, Veterans to hear courageous Dutch MP

New York, N.Y. 9/11, 2010, by El Marco

Dutch Member of Parliament, Geert Wilders, arrived in New York under intense security on 9/11. He leads the new Freedom Party (PVV) which is currently negotiating to form a complicated ruling coalition in the Netherlands. His party is opposed to Sharia law and non-assimilation of a vast wave of muslim immigrants in the Netherlands.

229 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:15:08pm

re: #221 Killgore Trout

I would object to "end the Fed". Although I can understand the sentiment of "end war" I would still rather support Obama as a wartime president.

What does that mean?

230 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:15:20pm

re: #224 Sergey Romanov

But but but ... bandana ... :(

Told his mom he's at accordion practice.

231 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:15:32pm

re: #220 Gus 802

They'll laugh at them. Or the guy on the right. Then in the next breath they'll try and tell you how much they love Bob Marley or Jimi Hendrix.

^Deserves ten thousand updings.

The same people mean Bob Marley or Jimi Hendrix or me, for that matter, when they claim some of their best friends are black.

Had it happen, numerous times.

232 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:15:48pm

OT but kind of relevant. ;)

NYPD Officer Charged with Criminal Civil Rights Violation for False Arrest and Malicious Prosecution
Charges Include Attempted Violent Extortion and Attempted Insurance Fraud
U.S. Attorney’s Office
October 17, 2011
Eastern District of New York

A criminal complaint was unsealed this morning in federal court in Brooklyn charging New York City Police Department Officer Michael Daragjati, an eight-year veteran of the NYPD, with violating the civil rights of an African-American victim by willfully arresting him and charging him with a crime without probable cause and on false pretenses, and for doing so based on racial animus. Daragjati is also charged with attempting and conspiring to commit violent extortion and committing wire fraud by making false statements to an auto insurance company.* Daragjati was arrested this morning and has an initial appearance scheduled later this afternoon before United States Magistrate Judge Joan M. Azrack at the U.S. Courthouse, 225 Cadman Plaza East, Brooklyn, New York.

The charges were announced by Loretta E. Lynch, United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York; Janice K. Fedarcyk, Assistant Director in Charge, Federal Bureau of Investigation, New York Field Office; and Raymond W. Kelly, Commissioner, New York City Police Department.

Probably some damn hippie no doubt. //

233 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:15:55pm

re: #218 Charles

Scary guy with bandana, but again - what's wrong with this message?

Image: 101511_0078.jpg

I think he's wearing a WOW shirt.

234 Interesting Times  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:16:10pm

Just for the heck of it, I tend to subscribe to dead or dying threads. I got a comment just now in my email, and thought it would for sure be a joke, rendered in the inevitable wingnut font. Alas, it's real. *headdesk*

235 Winny Spencer  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:16:13pm

re: #229 recusancy

What does that mean?

That he loves war. I do too.

236 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:16:34pm

Jack Abramoff. Another famous hippie.

237 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:17:00pm

re: #233 Obdicut

I think he's wearing a WOW shirt.

Wendy O Williams?

//

238 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:17:08pm

re: #234 publicityStunted

Just for the heck of it, I tend to subscribe to dead or dying threads. I got a comment just now in my email, and thought it would for sure be a joke, rendered in the inevitable wingnut font. Alas, it's real. *headdesk*

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239 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:17:08pm

re: #235 Winny Spencer

That he loves war. I do too.

240 samuraishake  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:17:13pm
Don’t they know that the early Nazis tried to garner sympathy with street rallies and marches?

I'm going to make a sign with this quote, and post it across the street from the next tea party gathering.

Also, don't you guys know that Nazis also liked eating pie?!

241 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:17:56pm

re: #235 Winny Spencer

That he loves war. I do too.

Why do you love war?

(If that's sarcasm, I apologize. Kinda hard to tell.)

242 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:18:14pm

re: #240 samuraishake

I'm going to make a sign with this quote, and post it across the street from the next tea party gathering.

Also, don't you guys know that Nazis also liked eating pie?!

Crap, I like eating pie as well. I guess I'm a Nazi.

243 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:18:17pm

re: #240 samuraishake

I'm going to make a sign with this quote, and post it across the street from the next tea party gathering.

Also, don't you guys know that Nazis also liked eating pie?!

Hitler loved dogs (not eating them) and was charming around children (probably didn't eat them either).

244 wrenchwench  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:18:25pm

re: #228 RadicalModerate

Scrolling further down on the site, I found this:

A pro Geert-Wilders article.
[Link: www.lookingattheleft.com...]

"El Marco" is another ex-lizard zombie acolyte.

245 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:18:34pm

re: #229 recusancy

What does that mean?

I hope he wins the wars we're involved in. Not just ends them. I support his efforts to stabilize Afghanistan, drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen, wrap things up in Iraq, kick Q'daffy's ass, as well as sending troops to fight the The Lord's Resistance Army in Africa. These are all efforts I support.

246 theheat  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:19:15pm

re: #232 Gus 802

I know who Loretta E. Lynch named in the article is. I've spoken to her on the phone before. She has one kickass resume and doesn't fuck around.

247 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:19:31pm

OMG! Look at these scary people!

Image: pict140.jpg

[Published October 17, 2011.] In this Oct. 14, 2011 photo, demonstrators affiliated with the Occupy Wall Street protests stand in line to be served lunch at Zuccotti Park in New York. The outcry against the nation’s financial institutions that has swept the country in recent weeks has crossed many boundaries, including class, gender and age. But a stubborn hurdle in many cities has been a lack of racial inclusion, something noted by organizers and participants alike. (Mary Altaffer)

Yeah. That Cryptome guy is a little out there but he has great stuff.

248 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:21:09pm

re: #247 Gus 802

OMG! Look at these scary people!

Image: pict140.jpg

Yeah. That Cryptome guy is a little out there but he has great stuff.

The chick with the camera is carrying a paper plate?

Is it a buffet line?

249 Randall Gross  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:21:32pm
250 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:21:44pm

Image: 53alex460x307.jpg

Might be a parody, or not. I can no longer tell the difference.

251 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:21:52pm

re: #248 ggt

The chick with the camera is carrying a paper plate?

Is it a buffet line?

Never Mind. I see the rubbermaid canteen in the far left.

252 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:22:00pm

re: #248 ggt

The chick with the camera is carrying a paper plate?

Is it a buffet line?

Everyone has plates.

253 Donna Ballard  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:22:05pm

re: #247 Gus 802

Yeah, they scare the crap outta me alright. *Yawn*

254 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:22:13pm

re: #248 ggt

The chick with the camera is carrying a paper plate?

Is it a buffet line?

Looks like it.

255 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:22:40pm

re: #252 recusancy

Everyone has plates.

Speak for yourself!

:0

256 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:23:29pm

re: #250 negativ

Image: 53alex460x307.jpg

Might be a parody, or not. I can no longer tell the difference.

It has to be a parody, I've never heard of Government Tuna --Government Cheese-yes, Tuna-no.

257 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:24:01pm

re: #252 recusancy

Everyone has plates.

This is patrio-psychotic anarcho-materialist symbolism indicating the protester's demands for hand-outs.

258 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:24:01pm

re: #248 ggt

The chick with the camera is carrying a paper plate?

Is it a buffet line?

You don't take a $1000 dollar camera to a riot. If you expect a riot you take a used Nikonos.

Image: nikonos.jpg

259 jaunte  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:24:09pm

re: #247 Gus 802

Paper plates... they must be lining up to eat the rich.

260 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:24:14pm

Tea Party only found some minor success in the USA.

OWS has gone world wide.

I imagine this is leading to a great deal of massive butthurt for some people.

Image: ows-spain-113.jpg

People take a part in a demostration as they march towards Puerta del Sol square in solidarity action for the worldwide protest dubbed "Occupy the City" in Madrid on Saturday, Oct. 15, 2011. The organizers of the Occupy Wall Street announced on their website that protesters will demonstrate in concert over 951 cities in 82 countries. (Arturo Rodriguez)

261 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:24:48pm

re: #259 jaunte

Paper plates... they must be lining up to eat the rich.

Hope they are recyclable.

/;)

262 Donna Ballard  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:24:51pm

One of the things that impressed the heck outta RWC and I about the Occupy LA movement is the first aid tent, also the free water and food being given out to anyone who wanted it.

263 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:25:25pm

re: #260 Gus 802

protesters will demonstrate in concert over 951 cities in 82 countries.

That's gotta hurt. :)

264 jaunte  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:25:27pm

re: #261 ggt

Or at least not Dixie products.

265 Winny Spencer  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:25:29pm

re: #235 Winny Spencer

That he loves war. I do too.

If I may invoke Herman Cain, it was just a joke. It really was, obviously.

266 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:25:40pm

re: #260 Gus 802

Tea Party only found some minor success in the USA.

OWS has gone world wide.

I imagine this is leading to a great deal of massive butthurt for some people.

Image: ows-spain-113.jpg

WHO exactly are the organizers. I thought this was an organic-type grassroots movement?

267 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:25:49pm

Obama talks about the Republican 'jobs plan:'

“Now, it turns out that the Republicans have a plan, too. I want to be fair. They call — they put forward this plan last week. They called it the ‘Real American Jobs Act.’ The ‘real one’ — that’s what they called it — just in case you were wondering.

“So let’s take a look at what the Republican American jobs act looks like. It turns out the Republican plan boils down to a few basic ideas: They want to gut regulations; they want to let Wall Street do whatever it wants. They want to drill more. And they want to repeal health care reform. That’s their jobs plan.”

He must really enjoy tweaking these numbskulls. I know I'm enjoying it.

268 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:25:59pm

re: #250 negativ

Image: 53alex460x307.jpg

Might be a parody, or not. I can no longer tell the difference.

That's beyond Poe's Law though.

"I was abducted by aliens and made to eat a nasty baby food-like paste for 20 years. I don't blame Wall Street. I blame the USAF! I am the 0.053%!"

269 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:26:19pm

Image: ows-food-126.jpg

Supplies fill a storage space housed in an unused space donated by the United Federation of Teachers to support the camp of Occupy Wall Street protesters in New York, Sunday, Oct. 16, 2011. (David Karp)

Read that again, "donated by the United Federation of Teachers."

270 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:26:20pm

re: #265 Winny Spencer

If I may invoke Herman Cain, it was just a joke. It really was, obviously.

sarc tag is your friend!

Actually, I thought you were referring to WOW.

271 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:26:28pm

re: #259 jaunte

Paper plates... they must be lining up to eat the rich.

I do think embracing slogans like eat the rich and the concept of class warfare is a mistake for these protests. I suspect it's a turn off for a lot of moderates.

272 laZardo  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:26:37pm

re: #260 Gus 802

Tea Party only found some minor success in the USA.

OWS has gone world wide.

I imagine this is leading to a great deal of massive butthurt for some people.

Planking For The People!

yeah, that's how we roll in Manila.

273 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:27:02pm

re: #261 ggt

Hope they are recyclable.

/;)

Sorry. After eating the rich, you have to throw the remainders away.
/

274 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:27:02pm

re: #250 negativ

Image: 53alex460x307.jpg

Might be a parody, or not. I can no longer tell the difference.

It's a parody. Cats would never adopt one not of their own.

275 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:27:02pm

re: #258 Decatur Deb

You don't take a $1000 dollar camera to a riot. If you expect a riot you take a used Nikonos.

Image: nikonos.jpg

I think I'd take an F3. Not waterproof, but I know for a fact you can beat the hell out of them and they'll still work.

Either way, it's not a $1000 body you have to worry about. It's your $1500 lens.

276 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:27:02pm

Getting back to the original question of why some #OWS people are wearing the colored tape hashtag/pound symbol...

Is it
[ ] to indicate that The Revolution Will be Tweeted?
[ ] to indicate that they're more equal than others?
[ ] to remind people press the pound key after entering their PIN?
[x] really worth thinking about?

277 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:27:07pm

re: #196 Killgore Trout

Ah, there are scribbles on her boobs. I hadn't noticed.

El M's take on that, um, protester:

I was also very attracted to this lady’s um, message. Her sign should say, “RE-ENACT GLASS-STEAGALL” and I am 100% in agreement. By separating investment from lending, and breaking up the banks into smaller institutions, a number of essential reforms are achieved, including cutting the size of the “too big to fail” institutions.

I left at this point even though I knew there was trouble to come. Rioting and skirmishes with police went on well into the night.

Sure they did, Prince Charming.

278 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:27:11pm

re: #265 Winny Spencer

If I may invoke Herman Cain, it was just a joke. It really was, obviously.

You underestimate the power of Poe's law. Especially when your comments are only an extrapolation of what you actually believe rather than a complete 180....

279 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:27:21pm

re: #266 ggt

WHO exactly are the organizers. I thought this was an organic-type grassroots movement?

Seems like it's just happening to me. There's some organization. Some financial backers. It's really quite a stew from what I've been seeing and reading.

280 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:27:40pm

re: #267 makeitstop

Obama talks about the Republican 'jobs plan:'

He must really enjoy tweaking these numbskulls. I know I'm enjoying it.

But Obama approved drilling-no?

If anyone can help with getting the rest of the article . . . or a review of it.

281 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:28:13pm

re: #269 Gus 802

Image: ows-food-126.jpg

Read that again, "donated by the United Federation of Teachers."

When I first read this I swore it said "United Federation of Planets".

282 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:28:17pm

Those look nothing like the swastikas I have on my uniforms.
///
Afternoon Honcos.

283 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:28:38pm

re: #277 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

El M's take on that, um, protester:

Sure they did, Prince Charming.

What a load of crap. There was no rioting in Denver. Barely any skirmishes. There were a few arrests and the camp is finally closed.

284 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:28:46pm

re: #269 Gus 802

Image: ows-food-126.jpg

Read that again, "donated by the United Federation of Teachers."

And how many children aren't getting dinner in NYC. All that stock-piled food for protesters?

I don't know, I see a bit of a conflict here.

285 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:28:51pm

re: #271 Killgore Trout

I do think embracing slogans like eat the rich and the concept of class warfare is a mistake for these protests. I suspect it's a turn off for a lot of moderates.

Have you ever gotten the sense they want to attract any moderates?

When?

286 Donna Ballard  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:28:57pm

Hmmm, I'm meeting RWC at the Occupy LA rally later today. Maybe I'll get one of my t-shirts and use some green tape to make green sarc tags on it. Hmmm. You think anyone would get it if I did?

287 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:29:05pm

re: #256 ggt

It has to be a parody, I've never heard of Government Tuna --Government Cheese-yes, Tuna-no.

Raised by cats, family never took Government Tuna ... get it? :rimshot:

288 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:29:05pm

re: #271 Killgore Trout

I do think embracing slogans like eat the rich and the concept of class warfare is a mistake for these protests. I suspect it's a turn off for a lot of moderates.

Yeah, because 'Eat The Rich' is the official slogan of OWS now.

///

289 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:29:29pm

re: #232 Gus 802

Much more info on that here.

Michael Daragjati, 32, told a friend he had "fried another n*****," after arresting a 31-year-old African-American man on Targee Street and Laurel Avenue on April 15, court papers said. Daragjati, an eight-year NYPD veteran falsely claimed the man had resisted arrest, said court papers.

In intercepted phone calls, Daragjati, who runs a construction and snow removal business, called Essential Renovations out of his home, told a friend he worried about getting caught for wrongdoing and being thrown off the police force. According to court documents, Daragjati was working in plain clothes in an unmarked car on April 15 for the NYPD's Staten Island anti-crime unit.

He and his longtime partner saw an African-American man walking on the street and ordered him to remove his hands from his pockets and raise them, said prosecutors. Daragjati allegedly pushed the unidentified man against a parked van and "roughly" frisked him, said court papers. No weapon or contraband was found.

The man complained about Daragjati's treatment and asked for his name and badge number. He continued to complain about his treatment as he was allowed to walk away and shouted insults at Daragjati, said prosecutors.

The cop and his partner crossed the street, approached the man, handcuffed and arrested him. The man did not resist, said prosecutors.

Daragjati then had several phone conversations with his sergeant to discuss possible charges. The cop told his boss that the man had "pushed off me," they had started "wrestling" and that it took four cops to subdue the suspect, said court papers. He also advised the sergeant he had grabbed the man by the neck and put his face on the trunk of the car.

Later, as the man was being processed at the 120th Precinct in St. George, Daragjati allegedly told him he could have gone home that night, but Daragjati didn't like being disrespected, said court records.

Daragjati later swore out a complaint report in which he falsely claimed the man resisted arrest by "flail[ing] his arms, kick[ing] his legs and push[ing] off from [Daragjati]," court papers allege.

The man was charged with resisting arrest, a misdemeanor, and disorderly conduct, a violation.

290 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:29:38pm

re: #272 laZardo

Planking For The People!

yeah, that's how we roll in Manila.

All signs written in English. I am ignorant, are the signs all over the world pre-printed in English?

291 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:30:01pm

re: #283 Gus 802

What a load of crap. There was no rioting in Denver. Barely any skirmishes. There were a few arrests and the camp is finally closed.

These self-deluded cons lie about everything.

292 Varek Raith  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:30:15pm

re: #271 Killgore Trout

I do think embracing slogans like eat the rich and the concept of class warfare is a mistake for these protests. I suspect it's a turn off for a lot of moderates.

That works both ways.
This constant, and mostly silly/untrue, harping on OWS turns people off too.

293 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:30:27pm

re: #266 ggt

WHO exactly are the organizers. I thought this was an organic-type grassroots movement?

I suspect Anon helps a lot with international efforts. The London rally had a lot of Wikileaks stuff, Julian Assange was the guest of honor. I'll give plenty of credit to the organizers, they've done a great job of getting people to show up.

294 wrenchwench  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:30:33pm

re: #276 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Getting back to the original question of why some #OWS people are wearing the colored tape hashtag/pound symbol...

Is it
[ ] to indicate that The Revolution Will be Tweeted?
[ ] to indicate that they're more equal than others?
[ ] to remind people press the pound key after entering their PIN?
[x] really worth thinking about?

[x] Really worth logging in after a long absence to say how irrelevant it is?

You betcha!

295 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:31:05pm

re: #289 lawhawk

Much more info on that here.

What a slime ball.

296 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:31:10pm

re: #285 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Have you ever gotten the sense they want to attract any moderates?

When?

"We are the 99%."

not

"We are the 5-10% of the country that are left-wing moonbats who think Obama is a right wing dictator put in charge by Joo Bankers."

297 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:31:10pm

re: #271 Killgore Trout

I do think embracing slogans like eat the rich and the concept of class warfare is a mistake for these protests. I suspect it's a turn off for a lot of moderates.

"Class warfare" shouldn't be a dirty word but an acknowledgement of the current situation given how the gap between the rich and the poor here continues to grow larger and larger...

298 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:31:28pm

re: #284 ggt

And how many children aren't getting dinner in NYC. All that stock-piled food for protesters?

I don't know, I see a bit of a conflict here.

By that logic, nobody should provide food for any group ever, but only donate them to needy children.

They're not living high on the hog out there.

299 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:31:32pm

re: #287 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Raised by cats, family never took Government Tuna ... get it? :rimshot:

Yes, sarc tag would have been my friend.

300 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:31:44pm

re: #271 Killgore Trout

I do think embracing slogans like eat the rich and the concept of class warfare is a mistake for these protests. I suspect it's a turn off for a lot of moderates.

You're becoming a caricature.

301 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:32:03pm

re: #296 ArchangelMichael

"We are the 99%."

not

"We are the 5-10% of the country that are left-wing moonbats who think Obama is a right wing dictator put in charge by Joo Bankers."

that many?

302 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:32:07pm

re: #269 Gus 802

The UFT is allowing the protesters the ability to store some of their stuff (and is donating some stuff) from their offices in Lower Manhattan, which is near to Zuccotti Park.

BTW, I know that the media is making a deal out of the fact that the OWS has raised $300k for the month, but that seems like a rather paltry sum for something backed by George Soros (if you're buying into that tripe). And if you aren't buying into that - it's still a paltry sum given how widespread support for trying to get government and Wall Street to be more responsive.

I also think that the donations have increased since Brookfield Properties backed off trying to clean up the park.

303 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:32:09pm

re: #292 Varek Raith

That works both ways.
This constant, and mostly silly/untrue, harping on OWS turns people off to.

I though that was the topic of the thread. .

304 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:32:25pm

re: #296 ArchangelMichael

"We are the 99%."

not

"We are the 5-10% of the country that are left-wing moonbats who think Obama is a right wing dictator put in charge by Joo Bankers."

Sure, "we" are. e_e

305 Donna Ballard  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:32:26pm

re: #289 lawhawk

Talk about bottom of the barrel... yesh!

306 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:32:39pm

re: #280 ggt

But Obama approved drilling-no?

If anyone can help with getting the rest of the article . . . or a review of it.

That may be.

Republicans are advocating drilling anywhere and everywhere - even in the Eternal Object Of Desire, ANWR. Michele Bachmann even wants to drill in the Everglades.

That may create jobs, but it would also be a big giveaway to the oil companies.

307 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:33:12pm

re: #298 Obdicut

By that logic, nobody should provide food for any group ever, but only donate them to needy children.

They're not living high on the hog out there.

You are right. It is good fodder for Fox News tho.

308 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:33:48pm

re: #301 Alouette

that many?

Whatever the number, you have to subtract it from 27 to get the percentage of wingnuts. 27% is The Law.

309 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:34:20pm

re: #308 Decatur Deb

Whatever the number, you have to subtract it from 27 to get the percentage of wingnuts. 27% is The Law.

I thought it was 42?

310 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:34:35pm

To quote the greats:

I think all righthtinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not! And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am.

311 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:34:42pm

re: #307 ggt

You are right. It is good fodder for Fox News tho.

They could look, act and talk like Mother Teresa. Coverage and attitude towards them would be the same.

312 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:35:12pm

re: #309 ggt

I thought it was 42?

That's The Answer.

313 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:35:24pm

re: #312 Decatur Deb

That's The Answer.

ah!

Can we tell that to the Tea Party and the OWS and just get on with regular every-day craziness?

314 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:35:32pm

I'm not so sure OWS will hurt Obama. It seems to have hit a button on the Right -- the crazy button. All of the energy the right spends trying to delegitimize OWS while using the same old, tired tactics, ie., librul, commie, marxist etc., while at the same time, focusing on restricting women's rights and gutting social safety nets, is going to rile up the Democratic base, who has varying degrees of sympathy to OWS. In other words, smearing the protesters may backfire on the right. Once again, they are in danger of over-playing their hand. He has to harness the energy of the base.
He really doesn't need to associate himself with the protesters per se. He just has to focus on jobs, inequality, and stagnation.

315 Randall Gross  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:35:41pm

Ve who vear der uberhashen haf vays to make you talk.

316 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:36:10pm

re: #290 ggt

All signs written in English. I am ignorant, are the signs all over the world pre-printed in English?

If English was good enough for Jesus and the apostles, it's good enough for me.

317 laZardo  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:36:40pm

re: #290 ggt

All signs written in English. I am ignorant, are the signs all over the world pre-printed in English?

Nah, we make the effort to paint ours. :B

318 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:36:43pm

re: #301 Alouette

that many?

I was giving them the benefit of the doubt, and have a bit of a residual 2001-2008 frame of reference... when it seemed like moonbats were around every corner with a misspelled sign about GWB or some shit.

Still they can't claim to represent 99% of the country on a particular issue while possibly starting to veer off into moonbat land. They need to stay on message, marginalize the kooks, and try to appeal to everyone, including moderates.

319 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:36:48pm

re: #311 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

They could look, act and talk like Mother Teresa. Coverage and attitude towards them would be the same.

Yep.

See Obama, Barack.

320 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:36:56pm

re: #316 Sergey Romanov

If English was good enough for Jesus and the apostles, it's good enough for me.

Well, they were good blonde, blue-eyed Aryans weren't they?

/

321 Donna Ballard  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:37:34pm

re: #316 Sergey Romanov

If English was good enough for Jesus and the apostles, it's good enough for me.

Um, didn't Jesus speak Hebrew? I mean he was born a Jew after all.

322 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:38:04pm

Obama "got the pirates" in Somalia within the first few months of his presidency.

The wingnuts still whined and complained about something or another. Right down to making up shit (fake Navy SEAL opinions) which they continue to this day.

323 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:38:07pm

re: #321 Dragon_Lady

Um, didn't Jesus speak Hebrew? I mean he was born a Jew after all.

Now, you are trying to confuse us with facts!

/

324 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:38:19pm

re: #321 Dragon_Lady

Um, didn't Jesus speak Hebrew? I mean he was born a Jew after all.

Aramaic

325 Donna Ballard  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:38:45pm

re: #323 ggt

Now, you are trying to confuse us with facts!

/

Ooops, sorry! I'll try not to do it again.

326 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:38:51pm

re: #321 Dragon_Lady

Um, didn't Jesus speak Hebrew? I mean he was born a Jew after all.

You think? ;)

327 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:39:23pm

re: #293 Killgore Trout

The overseas protests have been far larger - and in some cases, far more violent than the stuff here in the US. Some of that may be due to the fact that protests are a way of life in places like Greece and Italy given how precarious their economic systems are these days.

The overseas protests are a double-edged sword for OWS domestically. If the overseas protests get violent, that might lead US protests to see more crackdowns to deter the violence overseas or lead to some folks to distance themselves from the foreign protests, withhold from donating to a cause they would otherwise consider, etc.

328 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:39:31pm

re: #322 Gus 802

Obama "got the pirates" in Somalia within the first few months of his presidency.

The wingnuts still whined and complained about something or another. Right down to making up shit (fake Navy SEAL opinions) which they continue to this day.

Their special fantasy about that was that Obama never gave the order to go ahead, the SEALS just did it without him.
Very revealing, the wingnut fantasies.

329 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:39:41pm

re: #324 Shiplord Kirel

Aramaic

Obscene Aramaic--he was a carpenter.

330 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:39:52pm

re: #279 Gus 802

Seems like it's just happening to me. There's some organization. Some financial backers. It's really quite a stew from what I've been seeing and reading.

Organic and grass-root spreads across the globe in such a short time? I could be wrong, but I think that would take a little orchestration.

331 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:40:03pm

re: #322 Gus 802

Obama "got the pirates" in Somalia within the first few months of his presidency.

The wingnuts still whined and complained about something or another. Right down to making up shit (fake Navy SEAL opinions) which they continue to this day.

Cause those pirates were honest to goodness libertarians. So he went after libertarians!

If only he'd get out their and mace and club some hippies!

332 Donna Ballard  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:40:32pm

re: #324 Shiplord Kirel

Aramaic

Isn't Aramaic the base language of Hebrew? I may be wrong but that's what I thought all those History Channel shows were saying...

333 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:40:55pm

re: #315 Thanos

Ve who vear der uberhashen haf vays to make you talk.

Your lack of Hugo Boss and jodhpurs blunts the effectiveness of your threats.

334 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:41:04pm

Wait a minute. So if OWS is going to hurt Obama why didn't the Tea Party help Obama? In fact it didn't and the Tea Party wound up hurting Obama in the last election. It wasn't really a landslide but they helped the GOP win back the House.

Anyway. It's a bullshit argument to say that OWS will help or hurt Obama.

335 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:41:05pm

re: #328 iceweasel

Their special fantasy about that was that Obama never gave the order to go ahead, the SEALS just did it without him.
Very revealing, the wingnut fantasies.

Not only that. There would have been a coup if he didn't give his approval.

336 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:41:10pm

re: #330 ggt

Organic and grass-root spreads across the globe in such a short time? I could be wrong, but I think that would take a little orchestration.

it's not that short a period of time-- it's been going on for a month. There's a lot of people hurting out there.

337 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:41:10pm

re: #329 Decatur Deb

Obscene Aramaic--he was a carpenter.

"Are you fuckin' people gonna listen to me or what!!!"
/

338 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:41:15pm

re: #319 Gus 802

Yep.

See Obama, Barack.

There's got to be an MLK equivalent of Godwin and I hate to do this to the thread, but seriously...

339 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:41:25pm

re: #330 ggt

Organic and grass-root spreads across the globe in such a short time? I could be wrong, but I think that would take a little orchestration.

Yeah. There's these things called computers that hook to this thing called the internet.

340 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:41:56pm

re: #339 recusancy

Yeah. There's these things called computers that hook to this thing called the internet.

Damn, I"m old.

341 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:42:32pm

re: #332 Dragon_Lady

Isn't Aramaic the base language of Hebrew? I may be wrong but that's what I thought all those History Channel shows were saying...

Aramaic is similar to, but not the basis of Hebrew. Think of Hebrew as Latin, and Aramaic as Spanish.

342 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:42:45pm

re: #330 ggt

Organic and grass-root spreads across the globe in such a short time? I could be wrong, but I think that would take a little orchestration.

We have the Internet. It's loosely organized by and large.

Protest on October 15th. Be there or be square. So you just go. Wake up early in the morning. Get dressed. Put together a day pack. Smoke some bud and then head to the protest.

It's a youth thing.

343 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:43:13pm

re: #337 Cannadian Club Akbar

"Are you fuckin' people gonna listen to me or what!!!"
/

"Hey, you with the stone? See what happens if you throw it! You never did shit that made someone want to throw shit at you? Thats what I thought, ya goomba!"

344 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:43:15pm

re: #328 iceweasel

Their special fantasy about that was that Obama never gave the order to go ahead, the SEALS just did it without him.
Very revealing, the wingnut fantasies.

I belonged to a guitar forum at the time (which I've long since left because it became overrun by wingnuts), and I remember them stating flat-out that the operation was a failure about an hour after the news came out that the Navy was on the way.

Many plates of crow were served that day, I can tell you. :)

345 CuriousLurker  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:43:40pm

re: #321 Dragon_Lady

Um, didn't Jesus speak Hebrew? I mean he was born a Jew after all.

Um, no. I'm pretty sure he was born Christian in a trailer park in Kentucky.

[Link: www.art4god.com...]

346 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:44:04pm

re: #342 Gus 802

We have the Internet. It's loosely organized by and large.

Protest on October 15th. Be there or be square. So you just go. Wake up early in the morning. Get dressed. Put together a day pack. Smoke some bud and then head to the protest.

It's a youth thing.

Don't forget your written orders from soros, code pink, adbusters, and black block!

347 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:44:36pm

re: #346 recusancy

Don't forget your written orders from soros, code pink, adbusters, and black block!

What's the Password? Phrase, or handshake?

348 Donna Ballard  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:44:52pm

re: #345 CuriousLurker

Um, no. I'm pretty sure he was born Christian in a trailer park in Kentucky.

[Link: www.art4god.com...]

LOL that's funny! Good one! 8-)

349 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:45:14pm

re: #344 makeitstop

I belonged to a guitar forum at the time (which I've long since left because it became overrun by wingnuts), and I remember them stating flat-out that the operation was a failure about an hour after the news came out that the Navy was on the way.

Many plates of crow were served that day, I can tell you. :)

What I read that day was some of the most flat out dumbest wingnut shit I ever read in my life. And not one of them ever ate crow. Maybe a few here and there.

350 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:45:17pm

re: #347 ggt

What's the Password? Phrase, or handshake?

Just duct tape a hashtag to your shirt and you're good.

351 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:45:23pm

re: #345 CuriousLurker

Um, no. I'm pretty sure he was born Christian in a trailer park in Kentucky.

[Link: www.art4god.com...]

And he ended up in Upstate New York -- buried some stuff there, from what I hear.

352 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:45:58pm

re: #345 CuriousLurker

Um, no. I'm pretty sure he was born Christian in a trailer park in Kentucky.

[Link: www.art4god.com...]

oh, that is kind-of a sexy Jesus.

353 CuriousLurker  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:46:15pm

re: #348 Dragon_Lady

LOL that's funny! Good one! 8-)

Heh, I should've qualified that with "or so it seems, according to some".

354 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:46:37pm

re: #318 ArchangelMichael

I was giving them the benefit of the doubt, and have a bit of a residual 2001-2008 frame of reference... when it seemed like moonbats were around every corner with a misspelled sign about GWB or some shit.

Still they can't claim to represent 99% of the country on a particular issue while possibly starting to veer off into moonbat land. They need to stay on message, marginalize the kooks, and try to appeal to everyone, including moderates.

Ah, two fallacies in a row for me, but I'm posting it anyway.

If anyone needs to appeal to the moderates it's the GOP with their Confederacy of Idiots on display, one of whom is supposed to displace Obama.

This is one reason I find the OWS distraction on the part of the frothing rightwing kind of hilarious. /MBF

355 Donna Ballard  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:46:52pm

re: #353 CuriousLurker

Heh, I should've qualified that with "or so it seems, according to some".

Well I liked it! ;-)

356 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:47:11pm

re: #352 ggt

oh, that is kind-of a sexy Jesus.

I guess a Carpenter would have nice arm muscles --no?

357 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:47:23pm

re: #347 ggt

What's the Password? Phrase, or handshake?

Orange tape hash tag twisted 45°

358 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:47:28pm

re: #332 Dragon_Lady

Isn't Aramaic the base language of Hebrew? I may be wrong but that's what I thought all those History Channel shows were saying...

They're both part of the Northwest Semitic language subfamily, but there's not descent relationship between them. If anything, they're both descendants of some early form of Ugaritic (the oldest accounted NW Semitic language), or all three derive from a hypothetical predecessor (like Proto-Indo-European vis-a-vis all the Indo-European languages).

359 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:47:30pm

re: #153 Charles

That's actually a really good name for a band. The Neo-Cannibals.

I liked the Fine Young Cannibals myself, back in the day. How about the Neo-Fine Young Cannibals?

///

360 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:47:42pm

re: #332 Dragon_Lady

Isn't Aramaic the base language of Hebrew? I may be wrong but that's what I thought all those History Channel shows were saying...

Aramaic was the lingua franca of the Levant at the time, and Koine Greek was the lingua franca of the entire Eastern Roman Empire and into Persia and North Africa. I believe that pretty much everyone in Judea in the first century spoke one or the other or both.

361 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:47:48pm

re: #357 recusancy

Orange tape hash tag twisted 45°

reflector tape ok?

362 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:47:50pm

re: #346 recusancy

Don't forget your written orders from soros, code pink, adbusters, and black block!

Right. I remember the first protest I went to was for the Gulf War. I went with my GF at the time. All we heard was "protest this Saturday." So, we painted our signs and went to the protest and marched with everyone else. It was in San Francisco so we were all rather a mixed bunch numbering in the 10s of thousands. When it was finished we went back home. Nothing complicated. No secret meetings. No secret handshakes.

363 CuriousLurker  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:48:02pm

re: #352 ggt

oh, that is kind-of a sexy Jesus.

Oh, there's more. Much more. Click on the tab that says "Art". O_o

364 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:48:07pm

re: #359 talon_262

I liked the Fine Young Cannibals myself, back in the day. How about the Neo-Fine Young Cannibals?

///

Urban Cannibals!

365 Donna Ballard  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:48:43pm

Well my fellow Lizards and Lizardettes, I gotta get some housework done if I want to go to the OLA later today. See Y'all later! Keep Laughing everyone!

366 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:49:02pm

re: #360 ArchangelMichael

Aramaic was the lingua franca of the Levant at the time, and Koine Greek was the lingua franca of the entire Eastern Roman Empire and into Persia and North Africa. I believe that pretty much everyone in Judea in the first century spoke one or the other or both.

The Talmud is written in Aramaic, and the Gospels are written in Greek.

367 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:49:07pm

I even liked the movie, though it was admittedly c-r-u-d.

But then, I'm a Susan Kohner fan. One has to take SC movies where we can get them.

368 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:49:15pm

re: #363 CuriousLurker

Oh, there's more. Much more. Click on the tab that says "Art". O_o

Oh, he kinda has a Romance Novel cover thing going here.

369 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:49:40pm

re: #160 SanFranciscoZionist

No, they're trolling. I see this all the time with the anti-Israel nuts I interact with online. Any word, any avatar photo, your last name, whatever it is, can be used to create a narrative and score points.

My married surname is shared with a rather famous racist. I've had more than one of these guys go off on a tangent about how I must be related to him, that show what Zionists are all about, you've been unmasked, hahaha, I can't believe you tried to argue with us while having a common Anglo surname that a bigot also has!!

This is the Pajamas Media equivalent. It's amusing to the troops, and easier than real journalism.

Can't keep the slavering masses perpetually angry if they just report the facts...

370 CuriousLurker  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:49:53pm

re: #368 ggt

Oh, he kinda has a Romance Novel cover thing going here.

Exactly.

371 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:49:54pm

re: #327 lawhawk

The overseas protests have been far larger - and in some cases, far more violent than the stuff here in the US. Some of that may be due to the fact that protests are a way of life in places like Greece and Italy given how precarious their economic systems are these days.

The overseas protests are a double-edged sword for OWS domestically. If the overseas protests get violent, that might lead US protests to see more crackdowns to deter the violence overseas or lead to some folks to distance themselves from the foreign protests, withhold from donating to a cause they would otherwise consider, etc.

Agreed, but I don't think there'll be a separation between the international and domestic OWS protests no matter what happens. I suspect the G20 protests will also take on an OWS theme this time, I don't think any of the supporters are going to be bothered by it.

372 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:50:06pm

re: #345 CuriousLurker

Um, no. I'm pretty sure he was born Christian in a trailer park in Kentucky.

[Link: www.art4god.com...]

Then there is a slender chance that Jesus's parents owe me back rent.

373 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:51:32pm

Renegade Amish Group

Image: 18amish_cnd-popup.jpg

Photographs from the Jefferson County, Ohio, Sheriff's Department show, from left, Levi Miller, Johnny Mullet, and Lester Mullet, of Bergholz, Ohio.

From Hair-Cutting Attacks Stir Fear Among Ohio Amish

374 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:51:40pm

re: #197 Charles

I don't see anything wrong with any of these signs:

Image: 101511_9931.jpg

Nothing radical there.

You know the RWNJs are all apoplectic about the "raised fist" poster.

375 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:51:54pm

re: #362 Gus 802

Right. I remember the first protest I went to was for the Gulf War. I went with my GF at the time. All we heard was "protest this Saturday." So, we painted our signs and went to the protest and marched with everyone else. It was in San Francisco so we were all rather a mixed bunch numbering in the 10s of thousands. When it was finished we went back home. Nothing complicated. No secret meetings. No secret handshakes.

Oh, but that's impossible!!!

/

376 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:51:54pm

re: #373 Gus 802

Renegade Amish Group

Image: 18amish_cnd-popup.jpg

From Hair-Cutting Attacks Stir Fear Among Ohio Amish

More hippies.

//

377 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:52:03pm

too funny!

LOL

I'm kinda-of disappointed. I thought there would be a Marlboro-Man Jesus.

378 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:52:45pm

re: #372 The Ghost of a Flea

Then there is a slender chance that Jesus's parents owe me back rent.

Could be me. We had our first two kids in a 10x45 in a 'court' south of UofL.

379 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:52:48pm

re: #374 talon_262

You know the RWNJs are all apoplectic about the "raised fist" poster.

They shouldn't be.

380 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:53:06pm

re: #377 ggt

too funny!

LOL

I'm kinda-of disappointed. I thought there would be a Marlboro-Man Jesus.

Jesus would walk a mile for a Camel.

381 CuriousLurker  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:53:36pm

re: #372 The Ghost of a Flea

Then there is a slender chance that Jesus's parents owe me back rent.

LOL!

re: #377 ggt

too funny!

LOL

I'm kinda-of disappointed. I thought there would be a Marlboro-Man Jesus.

Yeah, he's definitely more Fabio than Marlboro Man.

382 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:54:01pm

re: #368 ggt

Oh, he kinda has a Romance Novel cover thing going here.

That one looks like my ex.

383 jaunte  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:54:26pm

re: #373 Gus 802

Renegade Amish Group

Image: 18amish_cnd-popup.jpg

From Hair-Cutting Attacks Stir Fear Among Ohio Amish

Mullets, still partying in the back.

384 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:54:41pm

Citigroup Earnings Rise 74% to $3.8 Billion

With a big push from a one-time accounting gain, Citigroup on Monday squeezed out its seventh consecutive quarterly profit, but it faces significant challenges to growth.

Citigroup announced a third-quarter profit of $3.8 billion, or $1.23 a share, beating analyst consensus estimates of 81 cents a share. That represented a 74 percent increase from a year ago, when the bank announced a quarterly profit of $2.2 billion, or 72 cents a share.

Now we have to wait for it to trickle back down upon us. //

385 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:54:51pm

re: #383 jaunte

Mullets, still partying in the back.

I thought about that too!

386 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:55:21pm

re: #384 Gus 802

Citigroup Earnings Rise 74% to $3.8 Billion

Now we have to wait for it to trickle back down upon us. //

and they aren't charging to us a debit card!

387 reine.de.tout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:55:39pm

re: #190 Dragon_Lady

Ya know, it kinda looks like she ripped her sleeve and did a really bad job of trying to repair it. I'm just sayin...
Heh, duct tape, they'll use it for anything these days except ducts! Silly lady...

Duct tape chair.
I actually quite like it.

388 CuriousLurker  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:56:13pm

re: #386 ggt

and they aren't charging to us a debit card!

Well, yeah. Because y'know, they're hurting. //

389 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:56:22pm

re: #387 reine.de.tout

Duct tape chair.
I actually quite like it.

I doubt it is very comfortable --especially without long pants.

390 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:56:26pm

re: #354 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Ah, two fallacies in a row for me, but I'm posting it anyway.

If anyone needs to appeal to the moderates it's the GOP with their Confederacy of Idiots on display, one of whom is supposed to displace Obama.

This is one reason I find the OWS distraction on the part of the frothing rightwing kind of hilarious. /MBF

The Tea Party stayed on it's 2008 anti-Wall Street/Bailout message for about 15 minutes before a rogues' gallery of kooks hijacked it and turned it into the Mos Eisley Cantina of political movements. It's too late for them, they are at the event horizon of the Wingularity. (As a Centrist/Moderate with a tad of a right lean, I don't want them to appeal to me, I want them to finish their self-destruction post haste so some 21st century adults with ideas will fill the void.)

OWS still has a chance to avoid a similar fate, but if it continues to be a rudderless ship, the fringe will try and probably succeed at hijacking it. I want them to say 'We are the 99%' and actually mean it.

391 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:56:54pm

re: #387 reine.de.tout

Duct tape chair.
I actually quite like it.

There's an annual duct-tape prom dress contest.

392 recusancy  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:57:36pm

re: #390 ArchangelMichael

The Tea Party stayed on it's 2008 anti-Wall Street/Bailout message for about 15 minutes before a rogues' gallery of kooks hijacked it and turned it into the Mos Eisley Cantina of political movements. It's too late for them, they are at the event horizon of the Wingularity. (As a Centrist/Moderate with a tad of a right lean, I don't want them to appeal to me, I want them to finish their self-destruction post haste so some 21st century adults with ideas will fill the void.)

OWS still has a chance to avoid a similar fate, but if it continues to be a rudderless ship, the fringe will try and probably succeed at hijacking it. I want them to say 'We are the 99%' and actually mean it.

The only way to make that happen is to join it and add your voice.

393 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:58:56pm

re: #391 Decatur Deb

There's an annual duct-tape prom dress contest.

I don't want to know things like that....

:0

394 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:59:23pm

Big Government isn't finished being incredibly stupid yet:

» Was President Obama Really Sitting in Front of an Assembly Line in this Video? - Big Government

President Hussein is FAKING A VIDEO!

Do I have to point out that this accusation is coming from the website of the Internet's premier video fraudster?

Once again, these geniuses are wrongly identifying compression artifacts as evidence of a "green screen." It's astounding how crazy they're getting.

395 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:59:27pm

re: #386 ggt

and they aren't charging to us a debit card!

nah they're just upping all the other fees

396 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:59:47pm

re: #384 Gus 802

Citigroup Earnings Rise 74% to $3.8 Billion

Now we have to wait for it to trickle back down upon us. //

Obviously they'll use that money to hire new employees, give the majority of their current employees raises, and invest in upgrading their systems, leading them to purchase goods and services from other industries before they even think about giving their officers another round of huge payoffs and folding it into various investment accounts to hide it from being taxed.

Right?

397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 12:59:56pm

re: #189 Charles

I saw it on FB yesterday. Was able to inform the poster. It was removed.

398 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:00:11pm

re: #391 Decatur Deb

There's an annual duct-tape prom dress contest.

Some are very good:

[Link: duckbrand.com...]

[Link: www.google.com...]

399 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:00:53pm

re: #398 Decatur Deb

Some are very good:

[Link: duckbrand.com...]

[Link: www.google.com...]

Not Looking!

400 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:00:54pm

re: #389 ggt

I doubt it is very comfortable --especially without long pants.

Bright side? Stand up? INSTANT WAX!

401 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:01:01pm

re: #334 Gus 802

Wait a minute. So if OWS is going to hurt Obama why didn't the Tea Party help Obama? In fact it didn't and the Tea Party wound up hurting Obama in the last election. It wasn't really a landslide but they helped the GOP win back the House.

Anyway. It's a bullshit argument to say that OWS will help or hurt Obama.

Tea Party hurt the GOP, they could have taken back the senate & got rid of Harry Reid.

402 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:02:10pm

re: #394 Charles

Big Government isn't finished being incredibly stupid yet:

» Was President Obama Really Sitting in Front of an Assembly Line in this Video? - Big Government

President Hussein is FAKING A VIDEO!

Do I have to point out that this accusation is coming from the website of the Internet's premier video fraudster?

Once again, these geniuses are wrongly identifying compression artifacts as evidence of a "green screen." It's astounding how crazy they're getting.

Comment there:

Too bad Big Government didn't look into this kind of detail with regards to Obama's photo shopped birth certificate. Then again it doesn't surprise me since BG has been pretty strong about its Anti-Birther stance.

Rating: plus 12.

403 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:02:57pm

You think if Jesus got a tattoo, it would be of a cross or crown of thorns, not a heart that says "Father".

Especially since his Mother is a saint and all . . .

That is just strange.

404 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:03:07pm

re: #402 iceweasel

The DERP is strong with that one.

405 jaunte  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:03:23pm

"Obama visits Chrysler plant before faking green-screen video."
[Link: www.npr.org...]

406 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:03:55pm

re: #399 ggt

Not Looking!

Just one.

Image: duct-tape-prom-dress-scholarship-3.jpg

407 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:04:28pm

re: #406 Decatur Deb

Just one.

Image: duct-tape-prom-dress-scholarship-3.jpg

STILL Not looking!

408 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:04:30pm

re: #390 ArchangelMichael

OWS still has a chance to avoid a similar fate, but if it continues to be a rudderless ship, the fringe will try and probably succeed at hijacking it. I want them to say 'We are the 99%' and actually mean it.

I think the foundations of both the Tea Party and OWS are flawed. The Tea Party was built on Paulian foundations because the organizing infrastructure was already in place. OWS seems built on the foundation of the Anti-war movement (with the addition on Anon). They may succeed in terms of larger rallies and maintaining a somewhat positive public image but I don't think they're going to actually accomplish anything. I get the feeling that maintaining an active protest movement is the main priority rather than actually accomplishing anything concrete. It depends on your definition of "winning".

409 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:04:39pm

I gotta go,

Have a great afternoon all!

410 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:04:48pm

re: #403 ggt

You think if Jesus got a tattoo, it would be of a cross or crown of thorns, not a heart that says "Father".

That is just strange.

Maybe one that says "Post no Jesus" ...

411 Gus  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:05:01pm

I like this photo. More so the story behind it.

[Link: photos.denverpost.com...]

Occupy Denver protester Matt Velasquez and a State Trooper he has known since first grade. "I wasn't afraid of him cause I knew he wouldn't hurt me. I told him I was glad he was here," he said. Velasquez was arrested during the operation. Joe Amon, The Denver Post

412 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:05:25pm

re: #409 ggt

I gotta go,

Have a great afternoon all!

(Runs off to buy duct tape in taupe and mauve.)

413 Kragar  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:05:42pm

re: #405 jaunte

"Obama visits Chrysler plant before faking green-screen video."
[Link: www.npr.org...]

Ah, so he set up an alibi before faking the video. He is fiendishly clever.

414 jaunte  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:06:08pm

re: #413 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Breitbart has never visited the Occams' Razor assembly line.

415 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:06:10pm

re: #406 Decatur Deb

Just one.

Image: duct-tape-prom-dress-scholarship-3.jpg

Shared on FB with a friend who hearts Prom

416 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:06:11pm

re: #394 Charles

Even if it were green screen, so what? Bah. Humbug.

417 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:06:51pm

re: #405 jaunte

"Obama visits Chrysler plant before faking green-screen video."
[Link: www.npr.org...]

Little do they realize there's no real Obama. He's just an optical illusion created with flashlights and cardboard cutouts.

418 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:08:35pm

re: #415 wozzablog

Shared on FB with a friend who hearts Prom

You need classier friends...oh, "Prom"...OK.

419 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:09:17pm

re: #403 ggt

"His mother has a tattoo. It says "Son".
-One of those "The most interesting man in the world commercials".

420 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:12:00pm

I'm sitting here thinking that if you are given the name "Lester Mullet" at birth, it's all downhill from there.

421 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:12:12pm

re: #386 ggt

and they aren't charging to us a debit card!

Not yet - but they are getting ready to put hefty restrictions on small business accounts, and that's why my small business account is being transferred to a local credit union.

422 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:12:23pm

re: #408 Killgore Trout

Part of the reason I've been very "meh" about OWS is because I know it was built on the framework of the 'protest at the drop of a hat reflex' of the left. Having a broad appealing message helped it but I don't know if they can maintain it.

Another thing, and I said this about the Tea Party from day 1... "Protests are for DFHs". This isn't a police state, and no one is, or needs to be, the "Tank Guy" from Tienanmen Square. We still have freedom of speech, can vote, and run for office. Focus energy on getting CONGRESS to do something or replace the tools in office with people who will. Camping out on Wall Street is going to do jack shit in the long run. There needs to be legislation and some leadership to push it through and keep it focused on the problem.

I just don't think this sort of action is appealing to people who like to hold up signs and camp in public places.

423 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:13:27pm

re: #418 Decatur Deb

You need classier friends...oh, "Prom"...OK.

Irregardless, that's definitely true.

424 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:15:35pm

re: #422 ArchangelMichael

Part of the reason I've been very "meh" about OWS is because I know it was built on the framework of the 'protest at the drop of a hat reflex' of the left. Having a broad appealing message helped it but I don't know if they can maintain it.

Another thing, and I said this about the Tea Party from day 1... "Protests are for DFHs". This isn't a police state, and no one is, or needs to be, the "Tank Guy" from Tienanmen Square. We still have freedom of speech, can vote, and run for office. Focus energy on getting CONGRESS to do something or replace the tools in office with people who will. Camping out on Wall Street is going to do jack shit in the long run. There needs to be legislation and some leadership to push it through and keep it focused on the problem.

I just don't think this sort of action is appealing to people who like to hold up signs and camp in public places.

Very well said.

425 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:16:22pm

I need some Raspberry Jam with some Delta V at that...

426 garhighway  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:16:34pm

OT, and I apologize if you have all seen this already, but anytime I see the phrase "rogue Amish" I get interested:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Rogue Amish do home invasions of other Amish and cut off the invadee's beards. I grew up around Amish, and while they are different, this is unbelievable.

427 A Sockpuppet's Sockpuppet  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:17:34pm

re: #426 garhighway

OT, and I apologize if you have all seen this already, but anytime I see the phrase "rogue Amish" I get interested:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Rogue Amish do home invasions of other Amish and cut off the invadee's beards. I grew up around Amish, and while they are different, this is unbelievable.

The women's beard too?

428 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:18:04pm

re: #426 garhighway

OT, and I apologize if you have all seen this already, but anytime I see the phrase "rogue Amish" I get interested:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Rogue Amish do home invasions of other Amish and cut off the invadee's beards. I grew up around Amish, and while they are different, this is unbelievable.

That's a nice open space you've got there. It would be a shame if somebody were to raise a barn on it.

429 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:18:28pm

re: #425 lawhawk

I need some Raspberry Jam with some Delta V at that...

[Video]

Only one man would dare give me the Raspberry......

430 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:18:37pm

re: #426 garhighway

OT, and I apologize if you have all seen this already, but anytime I see the phrase "rogue Amish" I get interested:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Rogue Amish do home invasions of other Amish and cut off the invadee's beards. I grew up around Amish, and while they are different, this is unbelievable.

It's the one guy, it sounds like. He's built a cult of personality, which is getting people to do bad things...to their parents in one case it sounds like, which is astonishing.

431 Neutral President  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:18:37pm

re: #427 b_sharp

The women's beard too?

The Amish are Dwarves from Middle Earth? So much makes sense now.

432 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:19:19pm

re: #429 wozzablog

Lone Star.... /dark helmet

But I think he'd make an exception for Satch

433 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:19:43pm

re: #328 iceweasel

Their special fantasy about that was that Obama never gave the order to go ahead, the SEALS just did it without him.
Very revealing, the wingnut fantasies.

The RWNJ fanatics sure have a problem with cognitive dissonance and contradictions. On one hand, they portray President Obama as being weak (the fantasy about the military deciding to take out OBL on their own) and on the other, the fantasies that President Obama is somehow actively behind everything they oppose (OWS, etc.).

434 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:20:01pm

Lucca Brazzi sleeps with the buttons.

435 garhighway  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:20:41pm

re: #434 The Ghost of a Flea

Lucca Brazzi sleeps with the buttons.

Close: Lucca Detweiler.

436 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 1:46:07pm

re: #300 recusancy

You're becoming a wingnut.

Fixed that for you.

437 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 2:54:43pm

re: #211 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Well, it's not what I would do. I can't stand being around consensus decision-making.

Just the same, I'm glad it frustrates and enrages conservatives.

My problem with consensus decision-making is:

1. It usually leads to a result that is either coerced, or incoherent. Sometimes both.

2. When told "Lead, follow, or get out of the way," my instinctive answer has always been, "OK, I'll be over there if you need anything."

438 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 2:55:40pm

re: #212 ggt

Definitely! I tried learning the language once. All I accomplished to learn was say: "I don't understand" in French. Couldn't tell you how to write it.

Je ne comprends pas.

439 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 3:01:50pm

re: #285 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Have you ever gotten the sense they want to attract any moderates?

When?

I don't know who 'they' are, since apparently no one speaks for the collective, but yes, I get the impression that they'd really love for moderates, or at least people who look like moderates on TV, to show up.

440 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 3:03:49pm

re: #298 Obdicut

By that logic, nobody should provide food for any group ever, but only donate them to needy children.

They're not living high on the hog out there.

I see your point, but as I keep noticing, there's shit that could be getting done in SF that isn't happening. At least Food Not Bombs puts their money where their mouth is.

441 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 3:05:34pm

It's fun watching SFZ catch up.

442 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 3:17:46pm

re: #321 Dragon_Lady

Um, didn't Jesus speak Hebrew? I mean he was born a Jew after all.

Aramaic as a daily language.

443 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 3:18:38pm

re: #329 Decatur Deb

Obscene Aramaic--he was a carpenter.

Now here's a question--what would Jesus yell when he hit his thumb with a hammer?

444 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 3:20:55pm

re: #443 SanFranciscoZionist

Now here's a question--what would Jesus yell when he hit his thumb with a hammer?

Nothing. But tsunamis and hurricanes around the world would continue for a week.

445 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 3:59:24pm

Zombie has really gone off the deep end.

446 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 5:17:50pm

re: #390 ArchangelMichael

The Tea Party stayed on it's 2008 anti-Wall Street/Bailout message for about 15 minutes before a rogues' gallery of kooks hijacked it and turned it into the Mos Eisley Cantina of political movements. It's too late for them, they are at the event horizon of the Wingularity.

OT1H, yes. OTOH, they're ruddering the Rs in Congress and have been since shortly after their inception. I've maintained from the very beginning, we won't see that with OWS.

There won't be OWS Democratic versions of Sharron Angle, Joe Miller, Christine O'Donnell, and the like. Certainly not in the coming election. That's one reason I think TP=OWS is a big MBF, and wishful thinking on the right that the left is every bit as unhinged and idiotic.

Hey, I'm not even saying the latter is untrue. But I see an awful lot of personal desires being projected onto OWS from the right.

447 boxhead  Mon, Oct 17, 2011 10:35:50pm

I absolutely love that Three Stooges triple face palm. Thank you thank you thank you...

oh and concerning the topic, PJM is just stupid.

448 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 7:36:47am

re: #294 wrenchwench

Lurkers are people too.

449 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 7:56:48am

re: #448 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Lurkers are people too.

Yes, but are they Lizards?

/

I may have misinterpreted your comment.

I'll watch more carefully in the future.


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