Another Debate: The Torture Never Stops

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Coming to us tonight from wild, wooly Las Vegas, the decidedly un-wild and un-wooly GOP presidential candidates’ debate. Yes, another one. They’re going to keep inflicting these turgid wingnut gabfests on us until we scream for mercy. And still there’ll be more.

I haven’t discovered a live video stream for this one yet, but it’s on CNN at 8 pm ET. Strap in and prepare for punishment.

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535 comments
1 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:43:40pm

I can't handle another debate.

I'm going to bury my head in fiction tonite.

Have fun everyone!

2 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:44:50pm

The Luap Nor ad at the top of the page quotes Gil Scott-Heron.

Now I'm pretty sure I've seen everything.

3 Iwouldprefernotto  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:45:00pm

Where's the Geneva Convention when you need it?

4 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:46:28pm

Went through a lot of decent wine last time. For this, I'm just sticking some aquarium tubing in a box of Gallo.

5 Kragar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:47:05pm

Its like GOP survivor but they never vote anyone off the Island.

6 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:47:51pm

re: #2 makeitstop

The Luap Nor ad at the top of the page quotes Gil Scott-Heron.

Now I'm pretty sure I've seen everything.

The Ron Paul Revolution wont be televised...because it wont happen?

I assume its some play on that GSH quote but I have adblock up at the moment.

7 JAFO  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:49:22pm

I'm set. I have a fridge full of beer, home made salsa, and a bag of chips.

8 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:49:38pm

Charles,
Here's a link of unknown veracity in re: live stream.
[Link: www.wnyc.org...]

9 RadicalModerate  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:50:08pm

re: #2 makeitstop

The Luap Nor ad at the top of the page quotes Gil Scott-Heron.

Now I'm pretty sure I've seen everything.

You know, for a bunch of "property rights" capitalist types, this field of Republicans seems to have a bad habit of using speeches, quotes, and music without the original creators' permissions.

10 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:51:57pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

Works for me.

11 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:53:19pm

re: #7 mracb

I'm set. I have a fridge full of beer, home made salsa, and a bag of chips.

I've got puro agave tequila blanco, sparkling pomegranate juice, home made pizza and arugula salad with miso dressing (arugula is for Obama of course).

12 SpaceJesus  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:53:52pm

is this going to be the one where they all jump on cain this time?

13 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:54:03pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

Charles,
Here's a link of unknown veracity in re: live stream.
[Link: www.wnyc.org...]

Yeah thats a pirated stream. STRAIGHT TO JAIL, DO NOT COLLECT 200.

14 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:54:14pm

re: #12 SpaceJesus

is this going to be the one where they all jump on cain this time?

Yes.

15 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:54:30pm

Flies all green and buzzin'
From this dungeon of despair...

16 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:54:51pm

I *think* I've got it up right now here:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Anyone else confirm?

17 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:55:38pm

re: #16 BongCrodny

I *think* I've got it up right now here:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Anyone else confirm?

Roger that BC.

18 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:56:24pm

OK, I think CNN is going live now with a stream. Sorry about the prior link, if it was pirated anyways.

19 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:56:46pm

I'm ready for the debate! As painful as it is to hear the same crap over and over.. After this we have to wait 4 more years for another debate

20 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:57:50pm

This might be a little dull, without Huntsman's constant stream of obscene Lenny Bruce quotes.

21 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:58:31pm

re: #19 HoosierHoops

I'm ready for the debate! As painful as it is to hear the same crap over and over.. After this we have to wait 4 more years for another debate

promise?

22 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:58:46pm

Dear fellow LGF members,

I love watching the debates with you guys.

- Alexzander

23 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:59:20pm

They're going to sing the National Anthem?

Really?

24 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:59:48pm

re: #22 Alexzander

Dear fellow LGF members,

I love watching the debates with you guys.

- Alexzander

Feels as if a unicorn pooped...

//

25 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:59:59pm

re: #23 makeitstop

They're going to sing the National Anthem?

Really?

Twice. Any less and you're a commie. It's science.

26 SpaceJesus  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:59:59pm

re: #14 Alexzander

Yes.

it's like watching wild hyenas fight for pack leadership

27 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:00:04pm

They've got Cirque du Soleil--they could mime it.

28 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:00:15pm

Turgid wingnut gabfest should be a tag.

29 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:00:33pm

re: #23 makeitstop

They're going to sing the National Anthem?

Really?

At the end, someone screams "Play ball!"

And Bachmann punches Newt. No, wait, that was SNL.

30 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:00:59pm

Pre debate show Broadcasting from the Occupy Las Vegas..Please...Pander much?

31 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:02:12pm

Hokey intro? Check.

32 OhNoZombies!  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:02:20pm

Oh joy. Another debate.
Well on the bright side since it's Vegas, maybe Cain will sing everyone a little ditty !
The crowd is gonna love him...

33 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:02:44pm

re: #25 Obdicut

Twice. Any less and you're a commie. It's science.

*cough cough*
USA GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
ALL OTHER COUNTRIES ARE RUN BY LITTLE GIRLS

/Republican version

34 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:03:07pm

This is being presented as Reality TV. That's the format.

35 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:03:46pm

re: #33 Sergey Romanov

*cough cough*
USA GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
ALL OTHER COUNTRIES ARE RUN BY LITTLE GIRLS

/Republican version

Little Girlie men.

36 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:03:50pm

Holy crap. The overdone 'contenders' format really is almost campy, it's almost like satire of the Republicans. I seriously wonder if someone at CNN is a goddamn genius.

37 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:03:56pm

This is where I would do the boo'ing!

38 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:03:57pm

I like Anderson Cooper

39 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:04:13pm

Putting on the Ritz...

40 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:05:08pm

re: #36 Obdicut

Holy crap. The overdone 'contenders' format really is almost campy, it's almost like satire of the Republicans. I seriously wonder if someone at CNN is a goddamn genius.

The last one was even better. Straightup fucking reality TV. pardon the profanity; I've been watching a lot of Gordon Ramsey.

41 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:05:38pm

Another Debate... The beatings will continue until morale improves!

42 bratwurst  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:05:43pm

Hope Luap Nor has his eyebrows well glued on tonight!

43 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:06:22pm

re: #36 Obdicut

Holy crap. The overdone 'contenders' format really is almost campy, it's almost like satire of the Republicans. I seriously wonder if someone at CNN is a goddamn genius.

It's like the intro the WWF wrestling or a ESPN pregame intro..
Why not have Chris Berman screaming ' He could go all the way!'
oh wait.. Now the National Anthem.. This is like a Fox pregame football game..

44 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:06:25pm

re: #42 bratwurst

Hope Luap Nor has his eyebrows well glued on tonight!

I really do think Ron Paul is going senile. He seems to have much more trouble forming clear sentences than he did in 2008.

45 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:06:25pm

Aaakkk--It went to Nancy Grace.

46 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:06:30pm

Okay guys. I can't take this. I think I can finish my novel if I try. So I'm going to go do that.

47 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:07:10pm

re: #46 Obdicut

Okay guys. I can't take this. I think I can finish my novel if I try. So I'm going to go do that.

So you're opting for fiction over fiction, yes?

48 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:07:24pm

That was a... very nice National Anthem, good for him!

49 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:08:07pm

re: #47 BongCrodny

So you're opting for fiction over fiction, yes?

I LOVE republican fiction. Get a healthy dose every morning at RedState. These debates are like mainlining an opiates worth of republican fiction.

50 Bubblehead II  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:09:47pm

RP, Champion of Liberty. Riiiiiigggghhhtttt.

51 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:09:55pm

Ohhh Cain.

52 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:10:04pm

Cain 'solves problems for a living.'

Let's see him solve Latinos bailing from the GOP.

Mittens seems to be getting a lot of love from the crowd.

53 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:10:20pm

No Jon Huntsman - the water mark just fell from previous debates (if possible).

54 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:10:44pm

re: #52 makeitstop

Cain 'solves problems for aliving.'

Let's see him solve Latinos bailing from the GOP.

Mittens seems to be getting a lot of love from the crowd.

Yeah apparently Vegas is Mittens country?

Or is it BAT COUNTRY?

55 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:10:46pm

Newt - still a dick.

56 krypto  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:11:02pm

Class warfare (Newt) -- everybody drink!

57 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:11:15pm

I'm Herman Cain and I solve problems.
I'm Mitt Romney and I solve problems and I'm white.

58 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:11:23pm

re: #50 Bubblehead II

RP, Champion of Liberty. Riiiggghhhttt.

The Champion of Liberty, there can be only one.

59 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:11:35pm

Gingrich should be writing someone else's talking points. He is the best at it, but he has no chance of winning himself.

60 bratwurst  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:11:43pm

There is a special circle in hell for the person who writes Michele Bachmann's laugh lines.

61 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:11:44pm

re: #55 makeitstop

Newt - still a dick.

Always a dick.

62 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:12:09pm

Who gave Newman the mic?

63 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:12:26pm

re: #58 goddamnedfrank

The Champion of Liberty, there can be only one.

But they aren't out there with swords trying to decapitate each other...

64 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:12:30pm

re: #57 darthstar

I'm Herman Cain and I solve problems.
I'm Mitt Romney and I solve problems and I'm white.

LOL!

65 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:12:53pm

Aw, fuck...Bachmann doubled down on teh virgin-white blinding outfit...and in HD, her face looks like something out of Cirque de Soleil.

66 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:13:14pm

re: #57 darthstar

I'm Herman Cain and I solve problems.
I'm Mitt Romney and I solve problems and I'm white.

Tough choice - to vote for the white or for the conservative...

67 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:13:16pm

'Fiscal associates?' Wha?

68 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:13:16pm

How long is this supposed to run for?

69 erik_t  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:13:31pm

I wanted more substantive thought in the debates, CNN, not just more debates. Get it right next time.

70 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:14:10pm

re: #67 makeitstop

'Fiscal associates?' Wha?

The accounting firm that came in second on the Enron bid.

71 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:14:13pm

Bachmann makes a good point. I don't like her policies, but she seems crisp and prepared on that line of attack.

And Cain misses the point, his analysis doesn't matter. It's what the letter of the law says, see: RICO.

72 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:14:27pm

Ganging up on the Pizza Baron!

73 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:14:30pm

Why Las Vegas, that den of sin?

74 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:14:58pm

Sorry, Santorum...but you don't look confident on stage. We need a president who won't be intimidated by a school girl.

75 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:14:58pm

re: #72 BongCrodny

What crust!

76 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:15:14pm

re: #73 Sergey Romanov

Why Las Vegas, that den of sin?

Michael Steele got a good room rate.

77 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:15:38pm

Yeah, it's 'Dog pile on Cain' night.

78 KingKenrod  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:15:44pm

Patton Oswalt has a pretty funny live tweet feed going.

[Link: twitter.com...]

79 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:15:48pm

Opportunity zones = Slums?

80 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:15:49pm

Herman Cain: Look at our analysis, just NEVER look at the people who do our analysis!

81 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:15:57pm

re: #73 Sergey Romanov

Why Las Vegas, that den of sin?

Maybe God will strike now?

82 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:16:09pm

re: #79 000G

Opportunity zones = Slums?

Essentially yes.

83 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:16:10pm

re: #77 makeitstop

Yeah, it's 'Dog pile on Cain' night.

Wait until they get to the killing Mexicans question...

84 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:16:56pm

re: #73 Sergey Romanov

Why Las Vegas, that den of sin?

Best description of Las Vegas I ever heard was the Waco Brothers song "Fast Train Down."

"From the shores of the Atlantic
To that evil desert town..."

85 Gus  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:16:57pm

9-9-9
Audit the Fed!
9-9-9
Gold standard!
9-9-9
Gay marriage!
9-9-9
Iran!
9-9-9
Sanctity of life!
9-9-9
Abolish the EPA!
9-9-9
Ronald Reagan!
9-9-9
Class warfare!
9-9-9
Personal responsibility!
9-9-9
Tax cuts!
9-9-9

86 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:16:58pm

Honestly. the establishment is as puzzled as Cain at his huge rise. He is a loose cannon, not controlled by the major republican players and he needs to be taken out by them.

87 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:17:06pm

Perry just called Cain "brother"...and they've got him back next to Romney tonight...looks like CNN wants the Romney-Perry battle back.

88 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:17:08pm

Perry is going to roll out his tax plan this week?

Didn't he say that at the last debate?

89 bratwurst  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:17:08pm

I love how every criticism of Cain so far is prefaced with praise!

90 Stanghazi  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:17:22pm

What a shit show!

91 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:17:35pm

Job creators tax plan jobs plan people plan income plan taxes sales plan big plan apples plan oranges plan plan PLAN!

92 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:17:49pm

Dont bump plans with Perry unless its protected of you've had the vaccine.

93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:17:50pm

re: #65 darthstar

Aw, fuck...Bachmann doubled down on teh virgin-white blinding outfit...and in HD, her face looks like something out of Cirque de Soleil.

I'm thinking of the "Blue Ball Group".

94 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:17:52pm

9-9-9 is flat, Rick.

Its just regressive as hell.

And Buffett's $62 million income would be taxed at less than 100k.

95 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:18:00pm

I mix apples and oranges all the time. Not with a loaf of bread. We need more peanuts and cracker jacks. Gold.

96 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:18:11pm

re: #89 bratwurst

I love how every criticism of Cain so far is prefaced with praise!

"I'm not racist, but.."

97 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:18:26pm

This is one of the best starts to a debate in a while. I'm impressed... holy cow.

98 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:18:46pm

JEEZUM CROW! Luap Nor said revenues are baaaad! Holy S***!

99 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:18:48pm

No income taxes!

RP wins!

100 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:18:50pm

OMG.. Perry just called Cain.. Brother. twice..In a demeaning way..
Hey Brother.. You are wrong..
Very presidential Perry

101 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:18:54pm

Damn, when Crazy Uncle Ron calls you on your plan, you're definitely in deep shit.

102 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:19:28pm

re: #96 Alexzander

"I'm not racist, but.."

"I love you brother, but you've got your head up your ass..." Yeah...Don't complain about getting attacked, Cain...this thing is only 20 minutes old.

103 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:19:32pm

Everybody: 9-9-9 sucks.

Cain: You're all wrong.

104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:19:56pm
105 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:19:59pm

Cain:

My plan is SIMPLE, but unfortunately nobody understands it.

106 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:20:05pm

Crabapples and blood oranges.

107 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:20:09pm

Romney defending apples...I mean Perry.

108 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:20:16pm

State taxes don't count!

109 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:20:19pm

Cain: Taxes are like fruits!

110 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:20:29pm

Did you ever think you'd hear Republicans complaining about a tax plan being too regressive. Think #OWS is having an impact?

111 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:20:40pm

Mitt's nailing Cain on 9-9-9.

112 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:20:44pm

re: #109 JasonA

Cain: Taxes are like fruits!

Leave the gays alone.

113 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:21:14pm

Chutzpah? Is that a mormon thing?

114 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:21:14pm

Romney does a "pull together" move...

115 Stanghazi  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:21:23pm

live feed yet?

116 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:21:39pm

re: #115 Stanley Sea

live feed yet?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

117 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:21:47pm

re: #115 Stanley Sea

live feed yet?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

118 elizajane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:22:08pm

Mitt: I'm the only person in this room who would benefit massively from 999. No, no, I don't mean that.

119 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:22:09pm

re: #112 darthstar

Leave the gays alone.

It's a Republican debate. Even Gay servicemen are fair game...

120 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:22:19pm

re: #115 Stanley Sea

live feed yet?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Click "watch"

121 JAFO  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:22:21pm

Oh Newt, you whore.

122 Stanghazi  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:22:27pm

re: #116 Alexzander

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Muchas Gracias BROTHER

123 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:22:40pm

Newt is the brightest up there. If only he weren't an evil useless shit.

124 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:22:47pm

More Cain praise - combined with critique.

125 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:23:01pm

re: #121 mracb

Oh Newt, you whore.

Newt knows Santorum better than Santorum does.

126 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:23:03pm

re: #121 mracb

Oh Newt, you whore.

He's selling himself as VP material already.

127 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:23:10pm

0% capital gains? holee shit...

128 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:23:22pm

re: #123 Decatur Deb

Newt is the brightest up there. If only he weren't an evil useless shit.

He hurts the entire platform by demonstrating how idiotic every else is.

129 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:23:25pm

Newt turning the corner in an inky cloud of verbosity.

130 Kid A  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:23:33pm

This whole thing reminds me of this.

Image: imgres.jpg

131 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:23:42pm

re: #126 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

He's selling himself as VP material already.

Good call.

132 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:24:00pm

Reagan! DRINK!

133 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:24:00pm

Bachmann invokes the sacred name of Reagan.

134 elizajane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:24:09pm

Raise taxes on the poor! Massive cheers from the audience.

135 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:24:12pm

Who's gonna call Bachmann on the Reagan tax thing?

136 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:24:21pm

re: #132 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Reagan! DRINK!

I'm waiting for a commercial...I'm out of bourbon.

137 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:24:33pm

re: #135 makeitstop

Who's gonna call Bachmann on the Reagan tax thing?

Obama.

138 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:24:46pm

Why is Bachmann wearing white after Labor Day?

139 TedStriker  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:24:46pm

re: #63 oaktree

But they aren't out there with swords trying to decapitate each other...

Maybe they should be...

///

140 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:25:17pm

Repeal...DRINK!!!

141 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:25:17pm

Rick Perry: Taco Bell jobs for everyone!

142 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:25:24pm

re: #133 darthstar

Bachmann invokes the sacred name of Reagan.

Not Romeny, he says he was an independent when Reagan was in office.

143 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:25:25pm

Bachmann: ... Obama's plan is the plan for the destruction of this coun economy...

or am I imagining things?

144 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:25:32pm

re: #138 JasonA

Why is Bachmann wearing white after Labor Day?

She's sacrificing herself on the altar of Reagan.

145 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:25:45pm

Is Rick drunk?

146 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:25:48pm

Texas unemployment at 8.5%
[Link: www.google.com...]

147 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:25:50pm

re: #139 talon_262

Maybe they should be...

///

[Video]

More likely to be a run on the sword market for watchers to commit seppuku with trying to get the pain to stop.
//

148 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:25:53pm

Perry must have brain damage - he seems incapable of forming a single complete sentence.

149 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:26:03pm

300 years of energy!

Heh.

150 Bubblehead II  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:26:04pm

Gee, poor people don't pay taxes? Bull shit. Did Michelle ever hear about Sales Taxes? You know that tax on things like, food, clothes, gas?

151 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:26:13pm

re: #138 JasonA

Why is Bachmann wearing white after Labor Day?

Her husband was busy and couldn't pick her outfit for her tonight.

152 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:26:24pm

Perry got his hands on some meth before the debate...harness him...he's full of energy right now.

153 bratwurst  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:26:33pm

Drill baby, drill time!

154 elizajane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:26:35pm

re: #148 Alexzander

Perry must have brain damage - he seems incapable of forming a single complete sentence.

"One million jobs could be put to work!"
Could he even read a teleprompter?

155 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:26:41pm

re: #151 moderatelyradicalliberal

Her husband was busy and couldn't pick her outfit for her tonight.

+1 internets

156 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:26:47pm

Energy Independence! DRINK!

157 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:26:54pm

Perry..Just go ahead and just say it...
Drill here Drill now

158 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:27:06pm

Romney and Perry keep complimenting each other...I think they want to get the black guy back out of the limelight.

159 Stanghazi  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:27:16pm

re: #138 JasonA

Why is Bachmann wearing white after Labor Day?

LOL

160 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:27:20pm

So I guess someone told them Santorum would be showing up to this one?

161 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:27:31pm

Rick Perry's plan: everyone moves to Williston, ND.

162 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:27:44pm

Santorum is complimenting Europe? He's toast.

163 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:28:01pm

re: #138 JasonA

Why is Bachmann wearing white after Labor Day?

It symbolizes purity.

164 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:28:14pm

Obamacare...drink!

165 elizajane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:28:15pm

"Income mobility" is a new term? A new concept?
Only at a Republican debate, Ricky.

166 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:28:34pm

re: #141 BongCrodny

Rick Perry: Taco Bell jobs for everyone!

Taco Bell won the fast food Wars.

167 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:28:43pm

re: #161 jaunte

Rick Perry's plan: everyone moves to Williston, ND.

ND's Bakken doesn't exist. Obama won't let us drill.

s/

168 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:28:49pm

SHIT SHOW!!!

169 JAFO  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:28:51pm

re: #162 makeitstop

Santorum is complimenting Europe? He's toast.

He put his money on OWS last week.

170 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:28:51pm

Too funny!!!!

171 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:29:00pm

I keep hearing "buy my book" and website plugs. Really shameful to me.

172 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:29:10pm

Santorum getting booed. LOL

173 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:29:12pm

Santorum is throwing a shitty.

174 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:29:27pm

re: #150 Bubblehead II

Gee, poor people don't pay taxes? Bull shit. Did Michelle ever hear about Sales Taxes? You know that tax on things like, food, clothes, gas?

THat doesn't count. Everyone should have to pay something!! Even if it's just a dollar!! A penny!! Because sales tax doesn't COOOOUUUUNT!!

175 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:29:30pm

Great moderation here. *rolls eyes*

176 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:29:40pm

re: #173 darthstar

Santorum is throwing a shitty.

I see what you did there.

177 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:29:41pm

Things are getting frothy.

178 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:29:44pm

Rick and Mitt are having a moment.

179 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:29:46pm

re: #171 JasonA

I keep hearing "buy my book" and website plugs. Really shameful to me.

Eight debates and sales are still down...they're starting to get desperate.

180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:29:56pm

re: #154 elizajane

I'm sure this has been brought up today. But I thought this was funny as hell.

The President spoke in Emporia, VA today.

One of those poor dying American towns.

181 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:29:56pm

Children.. Not leaders

182 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:30:09pm

re: #163 SanFranciscoZionist

It symbolizes purity.

Her strength is as the strength of ten, because her heart is pure.

183 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:30:18pm

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

THat doesn't count. Everyone should have to pay something!! Even if it's just a dollar!! A penny!! Because sales tax doesn't COOOUUUNT!!

The poor pay absolutely no taxes...except payroll taxes...and sale taxes...and...well, shit.

//

184 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:30:30pm

re: #178 Charles

Rick and Mitt are having a moment.

Newt will walk in with two ball gags and straighten them out.

185 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:30:38pm

re: #178 Charles

Rick and Mitt are having a moment.

Meh. They should just start exchanging real punches.

186 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:30:41pm

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

That sounds like the definition of Santorum.. hehehehe

187 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:30:43pm

re: #179 darthstar

Eight debates and sales are still down...they're starting to get desperate.

My mother actually bought autographed copies of Cain's book hoping it would go up in value.

Scary thing is it has...

188 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:30:44pm

If the folks in Massachusetts like it by a 3-1 margin, why *not* take it national?

189 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:31:04pm

re: #182 SanFranciscoZionist

Her strength is as the strength of ten, because her heart is pure.

She may have the body of a weak and feeble woman, but she has the heart and stomach of a concrete elephant.

190 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:31:07pm

Santorum: "you're blowing holes in the budget and blowing holes all over the country."

191 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:31:19pm

re: #187 JasonA

My mother actually bought autographed copies of Cain's book hoping it would go up in value.

Scary thing is it has...

So did Billy Beer.

192 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:31:25pm

Santorum's a friggin' baby.

193 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:31:41pm

re: #188 BongCrodny

If the folks in Massachusetts like it by a 3-1 margin, why *not* take it national?

Because it only works on a state level! Every state should be able to do as it likes! If Texas wants to throw the poor and elderly to the wolves, that should be their "right"!

194 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:31:45pm

Any three toppings for 9-9-9!

(Even my crazy "flat tax" or "national sales tax/eliminate income tax" friends hate this because once you open the door to a national sales tax, they know it won't stop at 9%. Not even considering that this is a gosh-awful plan for many other reasons.)

195 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:31:47pm

re: #190 Charles

Santorum: "you're blowing holes in the budget and blowing holes all over the country."

Please don't mention Santorum and "blowing holes" in the same sentence again.

196 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:31:51pm

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

THat doesn't count. Everyone should have to pay something!! Even if it's just a dollar!! A penny!! Because sales tax doesn't COOOUUUNT!!

Token gestures are important damnit!

197 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:31:59pm

re: #191 Linden Arden

So did Billy Beer.

I had Billy Beer...it was shitty, but so is most rice based beer (Bud).

198 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:32:36pm

re: #194 reuven

Any three toppings for 9-9-9!

999 is the emergency phone number in England.

199 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:32:38pm

Woooo... Newt!

200 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:32:52pm

Uh-oh, Romney just pulled out Newt's dirty laundry to show the crowd.

201 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:32:58pm

Mitt sounds desperate.

202 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:33:00pm

I'm getting the impression there's going to be no post debate circle jerk this time.

203 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:33:02pm

This is such a disaster that Anderson Cooper needs to strip down to his tight black t-shirt.

204 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:33:12pm

re: #194 reuven

Any three toppings for 9-9-9!

I'll take mitake mushrooms (yes mitake, not shitake), heirloom tomatoes and goose eggs.

205 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:33:12pm

Mitt slaps Newt. Oh, snap!

Newt's busted on mandates.

206 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:33:15pm

Catfight!!!

207 Stanghazi  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:33:17pm

Once again, I cannot listen to this shit. I trust your live blogging.

208 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:33:26pm

Heh, but Mitt actually got a point for getting Newt to admit he supported the mandate...

209 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:33:44pm

I love Romney's smirk while he listens to these attacks. He's like, I totally know everything you're gonna say. That's how much you suck.

210 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:33:46pm

re: #203 JasonA

This is such a disaster that Anderson Cooper needs to strip down to his tight black t-shirt.

Best comment of the night!

211 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:33:46pm

My hospital just charged 55,000 dollars for 28 hrs care on a simple kidney stone catch. That's without any of the doctors' cut.

212 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:33:49pm

Anderson is not big enough to moderate this.

213 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:33:59pm

Obamacare! DRINK!

214 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:34:03pm

re: #204 Alexzander

I'll take mitake mushrooms (yes mitake, not shitake), heirloom tomatoes and goose eggs.

Never had mitakes. What are they like?

215 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:34:13pm

re: #201 SanFranciscoZionist

Mitt sounds desperate.

He is. He's getting into battles with Newt and Santorum as well as Cain (but complimenting Perry, oddly enough)...I think the strategy here is to bring this circus down to three people. Perry, Romney, and Bachmann.

216 elizajane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:34:26pm

Um, isn't Mitt describing Obamacare now?
But of course, his audience thinks that Obamacare is just a bunch of death panels.

217 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:34:37pm

re: #211 Decatur Deb

My hospital just charged 55,000 dollars for 28 hrs care on a simple kidney stone catch. That's without any of the doctors' cut.

WTF. I'm gunning it for the Canadian boarder if I suspect that kind of need.

218 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:34:43pm

Liquor run. BRB.

219 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:34:44pm

I'm gonna go have a smoke. I think some crack might help.
/

220 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:35:18pm

Cain's probably breathing a sigh of relief right now re: pigpiling on Romney.

221 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:35:38pm

factcheckdotorg Fact Check
Romney revised his book, but not in the way Santorum & Perry say. We covered this before: bit.ly/pk0PH7

222 Bubblehead II  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:35:43pm

Commercial break. Time to put the Steaks on the grill.

223 OhNoZombies!  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:35:47pm

The only thing I got out of that was that Santorum looks like a giant ventriloquist dummy.
Creepy...

224 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:36:07pm

Anderson Cooper is proving to be a terrible moderator.

On that note, I can't wait for them to talk about social issues and science!

225 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:36:11pm

re: #203 JasonA

This is such a disaster that Anderson Cooper needs to strip down to his tight black t-shirt.

He is so hot.

226 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:36:29pm

re: #211 Decatur Deb

My hospital just charged 55,000 dollars for 28 hrs care on a simple kidney stone catch. That's without any of the doctors' cut.

$55K sounds ridiculous. I'd love to see the itemized bill on that one.

227 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:36:57pm

I can't help but thinking that any sane Republican candidate is saying "Well, Obama's not that bad/would be hard to beat/it's a tough time to be President, so I'm not going to consider running this time", leaving the field wide open to lightweights.

Or there just aren't any decent Republicans available.

Not sure which is correct.

228 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:37:05pm

re: #225 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

He is so hot.

A very handsome man, but not really what I go for.

229 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:37:10pm

And now, a few words about Kleen Koal.

230 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:37:20pm

re: #214 SanFranciscoZionist

Never had mitakes. What are they like?

Quite "Meaty", I enjoy them on fancy pizzas or simply cooked quickly on their own. They are also a huge immune system booster.

231 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:37:37pm

re: #224 teleskiguy

Anderson Cooper is proving to be a terrible moderator.

It's hard to find good cat herders with Siegfried and Roy in retirement.

232 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:37:44pm

re: #225 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

He is so hot.

Wait, you're a lesbian, right?

233 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:38:01pm

Jon Huntsman's at home, chillin' to Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica, watching the debate with the sound off.

234 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:38:02pm

re: #226 BongCrodny

$55K sounds ridiculous. I'd love to see the itemized bill on that one.

We've asked for one, though the big hit falls on our good insurance/Medicare.

235 elizajane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:38:03pm

Cain was vaporized by the 999 discussion. They have to go see if they can reassemble the body parts and prop him up for a go on social issues.

236 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:38:32pm

It occurs to me that Michele Bachmann may not be the best endorsement for Marcus' Gay-Away services. "That's right boys, once you embrace your inner straight, you too can spend the rest of your life with someone just like me."

ANDERSON!? ANDERSON!? ANDERSON!? ANDERSON!? ANDERSON!?

237 Stanghazi  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:38:48pm

re: #225 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

He is so hot.

Did you ever see the Vanity Fair spread with his Mum, Gloria Vanderbilt? It was fucking creepy.

[Link: 2.bp.blogspot.com...]

Well, looking at it again, maybe not as much as my first reaction. Which was CREEPY.

238 OhNoZombies!  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:38:53pm

re: #225 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Too small.

239 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:39:07pm

"Tort reform and selling across state lines"

standard GOP "solution" to health care

240 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:39:11pm

We need more leeches and trepanning, less government medicine.

241 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:39:31pm

Sorry, folks, the list of available toppings for Cain's pizza are:

Black Olives
Anchovies
Green Olives
Bacon Bits
Green Peppers
Beef
Jalapeño Peppers
Ham
Mushrooms (no type specified)
Italian Sausage
Onions
Pepperoni
Pineapple
Sausage
Sour Cream (!)
Tomatoes
Cheddar Cheese
Mozzarella Cheese

according to the corporate website.

242 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:39:49pm

re: #237 Stanley Sea

Did you ever see the Vanity Fair spread with his Mum, Gloria Vanderbilt? It was fucking creepy.

[Link: 2.bp.blogspot.com...]

Well, looking at it again, maybe not as much as my first reaction. Which was CREEPY.

Wow, that's like the Norman Bates "before" picture...

243 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:40:09pm

re: #241 reuven

Sorry, folks, the list of available toppings for Cain's pizza are:

according to the corporate website.

Back when I ate trayf, I thought the best pizza in the world was sausage, bell peppers and mushroom.

244 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:40:27pm

Pay up, loser!

245 JAFO  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:41:05pm

Perrycare

246 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:41:25pm

Perry blames Mexico for uninsured children in Texas.

247 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:41:28pm

Magnets!

248 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:41:51pm

Ooooooooooo

249 OhNoZombies!  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:41:52pm

Electric fences.

250 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:41:52pm

Ha! Kids in Texas don't have health care because of illegals!

Nice pivot, Goodhair.

251 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:41:53pm

Wait wait wait... Perry's playing the illegals card?!? WTF!!!

252 krypto  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:41:58pm

Paul wants competition in medicine -- what profit motive will insurance companies have to compete for the "opportunity" to keep people on their insurance rolls, and have to pay their bills once their age heads south and they keep needing more and more medical care?

253 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:42:17pm

Ah, Mitt and Rick...

254 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:42:19pm

Good lord.

Children.

255 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:42:27pm

Rick and Mitt are touching.

257 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:42:31pm

Wow. These guys can't even talk to each other.

258 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:42:35pm

Oooh, touching.

259 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:42:40pm

Slap Fight!

260 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:42:41pm

This is some good stuff. Better than Jerry Springer, sad that our political system is now equivalent to Jerry Springer (Hell Jerry Springer is better)

261 e5india  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:42:43pm

How the hell did he pivot from healthcare to accusing Mitt of harboring illegal immigrants?

262 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:42:48pm

This is lizards.. The worst debate of all time

263 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:42:55pm

This debate just got personal.

264 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:42:55pm

Damn, it's sad to think that last week was probably the height of civility and maturity in these debates.

265 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:42:57pm

re: #258 goddamnedfrank

Oooh, touching.

Political erotica.

266 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:43:05pm

Moar magnetts!

267 krypto  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:43:41pm

This is getting painful to watch. I never liked the Jerry Springer show either.

268 engineer cat  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:43:49pm

who is the brightest and most aggressive seventh grader???

269 bratwurst  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:43:57pm

Rick Perry's campaign is falling apart before our eyes.

270 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:43:59pm

Romney has invisible lasers in his eyes.

271 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:43:59pm

Glare of impending death from Rick Perry. Romney's kicking him. 50 years ago they would have already come to blows.

272 e5india  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:44:03pm

I will say though that Mitt's become a pretty tough debater. The field is admittedly weak but still.

273 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:44:44pm

Romney rulin' the roost. How anyone can still doubt he's set to be the nominee is beyond me.

274 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:44:45pm

Perry's construction industry buddies just erased his speedial listing.

275 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:44:48pm

These guys are making my stomach hurt from laughing so hard!

276 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:44:56pm

re: #269 bratwurst

Rick Perry's campaign is falling apart before our eyes.

So is Romney's.

277 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:45:01pm

re: #207 Stanley Sea

Once again, I cannot listen to this shit. I trust your live blogging.

I'm watching Big Bang Theory re-runs.

That'll show Perry.

278 e5india  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:45:04pm

Ouch Burn!

279 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:45:18pm

Kelly Carlin tweets: Maybe perry will whip out a gun soon. #goodtimes #tweetthepress

280 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:45:19pm

Romney looking very sovereign.

Everybody else looking like they got their panties in a knot.

Theater.

281 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:45:32pm

Uh-oh, electric fence time!

282 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:45:38pm

I just turned the sound off for the last couple of minutes. Works great like that, just as edifying.

283 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:45:39pm

Here we go with the electric fence.

284 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:45:42pm

Okay...time for the fence question.

285 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:45:46pm

Crazyville fence time.

286 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:45:47pm

re: #276 darthstar

So is Romney's.

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure who won that...

287 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:45:53pm

oh kay

288 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:46:08pm

Lots of yuks with that question.

289 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:46:18pm

"I'll fry an illegal's ass on a fence! Mitt is a wimp"

Do it Herb

290 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:46:18pm

Snipers!

291 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:46:18pm

re: #286 JasonA

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure who won that...

Obama.

292 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:47:17pm

re: #289 Linden Arden

"I'll fry an illegal's ass on a fence! Mitt is a wimp"

Do it Herb

Herman...Herb was a columnist for the SF Chronicle. Only Palin calls Herman Herb.

293 Stanghazi  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:47:28pm

LOL, this is hilarious. (I'm not watching)

294 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:47:28pm

Don't Whiz on the Electric Fence!

295 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:47:37pm

Boots are magic.

296 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:47:49pm

I plan to patrol the border with a combination of Voltron and Spirit Pokemon.

297 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:47:52pm

Oughtta fry some Canadians, too. 54"40' oR ZAP!

298 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:48:02pm

Predator drones that are being trained don't have boots.

299 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:48:13pm

I'm just trying to think if Fred Armisen will be able to do a decent Cain.

300 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:48:23pm

Those boots on the ground - are they related to the invisible hand?

301 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:48:36pm

Mrs. Bachmann, tear down this wall...

302 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:49:00pm

Iranians and drug cartels? Wha?

Bachmann with the cheap shot about Obama's relatives.

Also, too, crazy fence plan.

303 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:49:08pm

re: #300 Sergey Romanov

Ground boots are guaranteed to have no pension or healthcare costs attached.

304 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:49:08pm

Rick Perry wants to use Predator drones at the border!

The Kraziness Kontest is on!

305 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:49:13pm

Bachmann will build a double-walled fence. Even Perry's looking at her like she's batshit crazy.

306 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:49:23pm

Damn, Bachmann looks like Tymoshenko.

307 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:49:42pm

What an idiot Michelle Bachman is.

308 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:49:52pm

If there were a proposition on the CA ballot to make Spanish the official language, I'd vote "YES" on it.

309 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:49:55pm

re: #304 Charles

Rick Perry wants to use Predator drones at the border!

The Kraziness Kontest is on!

I told you this debate was going to be fun.

310 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:50:05pm

She's coming after Taco Bell and their little dog, too.

311 bratwurst  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:50:05pm

re: #299 reuven

I'm just trying to think if Fred Armisen will be able to do a decent Cain.

Keenan Thompson has already been doing it for weeks.

312 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:50:18pm

re: #304 Charles

Rick Perry wants to use Predator drones at the border!

The Kraziness Kontest is on!

But only for reconnaissance! But still Predator, hmm.

313 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:50:28pm

re: #304 Charles

Rick Perry wants to use Predator drones at the border!

The Kraziness Kontest is on!

I speculated about that the other day.

It's easy to come up with crazy shit like this. Competency not required.

314 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:50:32pm

re: #311 bratwurst

Keenan Thompson has already been doing it for weeks.

I need to catch up with my TiVo

315 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:50:41pm

re: #308 reuven

If there were a proposition on the CA ballot to make Spanish the official language, I'd vote "YES" on it.

Don't you mean "Si"? And why would Canada want to be officially Spanish other than to piss off Quebec?

;)

316 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:50:41pm

Perry smacks Bachmann (figuratively). Cool.

317 Stanghazi  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:51:05pm

re: #299 reuven

I'm just trying to think if Fred Armisen will be able to do a decent Cain.

Kenan Thompson has NAILED IT

318 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:51:14pm

MAGNETS!

319 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:51:16pm

Why does the federal government need to build this wall? Let Texas do it. States' Rights!

320 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:51:34pm

You want an "orderly, legal" process? Then first, start cutting the red tape so that people don't find themselves here "illegally" because their visas expired.

321 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:51:47pm

Romney being spokesman for the candidates, and the crowd goes mild.

Start the clap, Romney...Clap...wait ten seconds...clap again...you'll get the whole crowd going by the time you're done.

322 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:52:00pm

It's agriculture and construction jobs that are the magnet, not tuition breaks.

323 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:52:00pm

Nice Football Metaphor Mittens!

324 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:52:00pm

For one crazy second, I thought Romney was going to say, "I think every single person here ... is batshit loony!"

325 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:52:04pm

Romney's solution to the immigration problem: turn off the magnets.

I can't explain that.

326 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:52:08pm

Fences + Boots on the ground=Big Government.

327 OhNoZombies!  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:52:17pm

Cain/Perry (interchangeable)2012
Bachman Sec. Of State
//

328 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:52:20pm

re: #323 teleskiguy

Nice Football Metaphor Mittens!

Call him Rudy.

329 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:52:30pm

Wow, this is some good stuff!!!!

330 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:52:30pm

Perry is flailing. Big boos...

331 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:52:30pm

Actually, it's sí, With an accent. "Si" means "if."

I'm "conservative" and I'm an employer. I don't want to be an immigration officer, too. Let the Government enforce immigration, not employers.

332 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:53:07pm

re: #325 Sergey Romanov

Mexicans, apparently, are made of some ferrous metal.

333 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:53:17pm

"Our message to the legal Latino community is SPEAK ENGLISH!!!"

-GOP

334 e5india  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:53:17pm

Whats the over/under on Perry dropping out in two weeks?

335 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:53:54pm

re: #306 Sergey Romanov

Damn, Bachmann looks like Tymoshenko.

Crap, she does.

The hairdo is less cool, though.

336 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:54:05pm

re: #334 e5india

Whats the over/under on Perry dropping out in two weeks?

All depends on what's in the coffers.

337 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:54:05pm

re: #334 e5india

Whats the over/under on Perry dropping out in two weeks?

He's got a book to sell...he'll be in through Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

338 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:54:05pm

Sudden switch from pandering to bigots to pandering to the Latinos - but this is haaard.

339 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:54:05pm

"We have 15 million Latinos and not all of us are illegal. What is the message from you guys to our Latino community?" BAM!

340 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:54:05pm

Spanish is truly a nicer language. We'd be so much happier if we all spoke it. And I'm not being the least bit facetious.

341 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:54:39pm

Our message to the latino community is electrons and alligators.

342 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:55:18pm

"We need to attract Latino votes without actually doing anything for Latinos outside of fucking them over...like we do with the teabaggers."

343 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:55:39pm

That whiplash sound you hear is the entire GOP candidate field suddenly switching directions to pander to Latinos.

344 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:55:47pm

"a very bold plan", and also I am humble

345 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:55:56pm

re: #332 reuven

Mexicans, apparently, are made of some ferrous metal.

It comes of being so red-blooded. They're irresistibly attracted to magnets.

Wait, was that supposed to be 'hot-blooded'?

OK, I got nothing.

346 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:56:04pm

Hello, Ron Paul, you obviously forget slavery, reconstruction and jim crow... and anytime since... what an idiot, but I do agree that one of the problems in the country is that everyone has been put in groups (and a good economy and liberty didn't change that fact)

347 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:56:04pm

Un plan audaz!

348 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:56:09pm

Thanks Cain for dodging the question.

349 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:56:09pm

Cain doesn't even bother pandering. He just defaults to 9-9-9.

350 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:56:15pm

Patton Oswalt! Hell yeah! "What's your message to Latinos? A: After you drop off Chandler at school, could you pick up the dry cleaning?"

351 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:56:58pm

They want to repeal the 14th but won't say it.

352 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:57:18pm

Perry: blaaah blaah blaaaah blah blah blah blaah America blaaah

353 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:57:19pm

"What's our message to Latinos? Sorry, we don't have one, so we're going to push our 'economic' bit yet again."

Yegods.

354 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:57:29pm

Perry going off the deep end here. His oil buddies are prolly digging it.

355 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:57:40pm

re: #345 SanFranciscoZionist

It comes of being so red-blooded. They're irresistibly attracted to magnets.

Wait, was that supposed to be 'hot-blooded'?

OK, I got nothing.

If magnets all looked like Sofia Vergara most men would be ferrous as well...

;) (Yes, it's sexist. Tough.)

356 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:57:42pm

re: #351 Linden Arden

They want to repeal the 14th but won't say it.

Let's see if Anderson has the cojones...he does.

357 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:57:51pm

I want to repeal the 19th! It led to Michelle Bachman.

358 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:57:53pm

Federal land rush needed for my mining buds.

359 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:57:53pm

Anchor babies! (magnets explained)

360 elizajane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:58:02pm

OK, tiny little question here. What happened to the budget deficit that was so important in August that your party almost shut down the government, or forced it to default? Oddly enough, I've barely heard a peep about that in any of these debates.

361 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:58:07pm

re: #352 Sergey Romanov

Perry: blaaah blaah blaaah blah blah blah blaah America blaaah

blahh blahh "get america working" blahh blahh

362 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:58:08pm

Fucking magnets...

363 elizajane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:58:21pm

Anchor babies!!!!!
Dingo, of course you'd have to deal with that constitutionally. It's all about the constitution.

364 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:58:23pm

Magnets, magnets, magnets, magnets, magnets, magnets, magnets, magnets, magnets, magnets, magnets, magnets, magnets, magnets!

Magnets!

365 OhNoZombies!  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:58:36pm

Anchor babies !

366 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:58:39pm

Ah, finally, we find the babies that the far right doesn't like.

367 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:58:40pm

santorum getting foamy

368 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:58:45pm

And Ricky takes the time to push his Puritanism again.

369 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:58:47pm

re: #359 Sergey Romanov

Anchor babies! (magnets explained)

anchor babies explain magnetism? Somebody call Insane Clown Posse.

370 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:58:49pm

I want a Herm Cain magnet to stick on my 'fridge!

371 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:58:51pm

re: #340 reuven

Spanish is truly a nicer language. We'd be so much happier if we all spoke it. And I'm not being the least bit facetious.

But I don't speak Spanish.

Oh. I get it. I'll shut up.

372 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:59:02pm

You just heard a Catholic dogwhistle.

373 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:59:36pm

Oh, fuck you, Santorum, you pretentious, whiny, self-martyring SOB.

374 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:59:40pm

re: #369 Alexzander

anchor babies explain magnetism? Somebody call Insane Clown Posse.

Anchors are made of metal. You turn off the magnets, anchor babies no longer attracted to Murika.

375 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:59:55pm

Santorum wants to fight a fight that doesn't exist.

376 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 5:59:59pm

re: #306 Sergey Romanov

Damn, Bachmann looks like Tymoshenko.

Semyon or Yulia?

377 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:00:05pm

Fundies just aren't that into you, Rick.

378 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:00:08pm

As a ultra liberal, I actually agree that the family is foundational. But exactly what that entails in terms of policy - well....

379 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:00:12pm

Militarize the Mexico border!

//

380 bratwurst  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:00:40pm

re: #357 reuven

I want to repeal the 19th! It led to Michelle Bachman.

Leave the misogyny to the current edition of the GOP, thanks.

381 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:00:52pm

re: #376 The Ghost of a Flea

Semyon or Yulia?

In that outfit kinda both.

382 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:01:01pm

Make each returning illegal carry a few curies home.

383 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:01:09pm

Nuclear waste border fence!

384 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:01:11pm

Newt's not a scientist...well, at least one honest thing has left his lips tonight.

385 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:01:15pm

Once again, Ron Paul reveals the cognitive dissonance of the GOP. The crowd simultaneously cheers and boos him.

386 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:01:18pm

I wish Ron Paul would just win the GOP nomination so this particular zeitgeist could come to a head and we could move on.

387 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:01:23pm

re: #373 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, fuck you, Santorum, you pretentious, whiny, self-martyring SOB.

Oh my.
;)

388 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:02:09pm

Ron Paul: blaaargh blah bla bla bla blaarh

389 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:02:19pm

Why is Ron Paul a government employee, anyway?

390 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:02:31pm

Paul goes off on garbage dumps...when the free market has made an industry of dumping one state's garbage in other states.

391 erik_t  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:02:39pm

Never has so little been thought about so much by so many.

392 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:02:43pm

Ron Paul advocates for Reactors R Us.
/

393 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:02:53pm

Ron Paul is extremely inconsistent. A true libertarian would say "put nuclear waste on eBay and sell it to the highest bidder."

394 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:03:21pm

Who is going to freak out more tonight?
Ron Paul is working it.. It will be a close race to bat shit crazy tonight

395 Kragar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:03:29pm

re: #389 jaunte

Why is Ron Paul a government employee, anyway?

Its a living.

396 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:03:40pm

Nucular!

397 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:03:40pm

Romney saying let the governors decide...Perry's all, "I can store that shit in Lubbock!"

398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:03:41pm

re: #389 jaunte

Every payday the cognitive dissonance makes him Kwazy.

399 Bubblehead II  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:03:48pm

re: #304 Charles

Rick Perry wants to use Predator drones at the border!

The Kraziness Kontest is on!

I actually don't see a problem with that. Cheaper than a fence and it allows the U.S. to actually monitor the border and track/follow drug runners. The caveat is that they are unarmed.

400 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:03:55pm

Mitt Romney proposes bidding wars between states to store catastrophically dangerous nuclear waste. The GOP's plan to improve the economy.

401 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:03:57pm

Tenth Amendment! DRINK!

402 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:03:59pm

Perry compliments France!

RINO!

/

403 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:04:24pm

re: #400 Charles

Mitt Romney proposes bidding wars between states to store catastrophically dangerous nuclear waste. The GOP's plan to improve the economy.

Coupled with environmental policy.

404 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:04:29pm

What the??????

405 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:04:39pm

re: #396 BongCrodny

Nucular!

The 's' is silent!

406 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:04:45pm

Here it comes! Republicans want to PROP UP REAL ESTATE PRICES!* They want to manipulate the market to make it more expensive and not let the free market decide.

Didn't the folks who paid to much for houses in Vegas speculate, too? Why do these candidates pander to them? Why don't they say, "well, maybe you made a bad investment. Boo hoo!"?

What's wrong with lower prices?

* Of course, Democrats do this, too.

407 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:04:51pm

Perry just entered the second hour...his voice is slowing down. And the pauses are getting longer as the people sending him messages to his earpiece scramble through google looking for answers.

408 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:05:03pm

TARP! DRINK!

*Collapses*

409 Kragar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:05:11pm

re: #400 Charles

Mitt Romney proposes bidding wars between states to store catastrophically dangerous nuclear waste. The GOP's plan to improve the economy.

Perhaps they can privatize it, so corporations can get the contracts, then the states can offer tax breaks to attract businesses that won't pay them any taxes.

410 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:05:24pm

Nucular fortitude!

411 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:05:27pm

re: #400 Charles

Mitt Romney proposes bidding wars between states to store catastrophically dangerous nuclear waste. The GOP's plan to improve the economy.

We should be using that catastrophically dangerous nuclear waste to make the border with Mexico more hostile!

412 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:05:32pm

re: #406 reuven

What's wrong with lower prices?

Nothin'; if yer buyin'.

413 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:05:44pm

ROFL...this is great. I never thought it would be comedy central all night!

414 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:06:13pm

re: #408 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

TARP! DRINK!

*Collapses*

=DERP

415 OhNoZombies!  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:06:16pm

re: #405 Varek Raith

Upding for Fam. Guy reference !

416 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:06:16pm

Let the market work to create new bubbles!

417 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:06:30pm

Cut the regulations and taxation after the lack of regulations tanked the economy...wt????

418 TedStriker  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:06:41pm

re: #324 Charles

For one crazy second, I thought Romney was going to say, "I think every single person here ... is batshit loony!"

This is Looney Tunes!

/Gung Ho

419 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:06:57pm

re: #415 OhNoZombies!

cool hwip

420 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:07:33pm

We need to let the free market decide where we put our nuclear weapons...I mean waste...

421 engineer cat  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:07:36pm

i wish somebody would devastate me with some bubbles

422 Alexzander  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:07:37pm

Anyone know how long this debate goes for? 1.5 hours or 2?

423 Kragar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:07:54pm

re: #422 Alexzander

Anyone know how long this debate goes for? 1.5 hours or 2?

FOREVER!

424 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:08:03pm

If we had let the markets work, we would be marketing apples to each other on the street corners.

425 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:08:22pm

re: #419 Sergey Romanov

cool hwip

Whill Wheaton.

426 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:08:25pm

re: #422 Alexzander

Anyone know how long this debate goes for? 1.5 hours or 2?

WAAAY too long.

427 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:08:47pm

re: #422 Alexzander

Anyone know how long this debate goes for? 1.5 hours or 2?

Until just one is left...

428 OhNoZombies!  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:08:47pm

re: #419 Sergey Romanov

Giggedy !

429 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:08:51pm

Hey, Anderson: they're all tired and stressed out. Now's a perfect time for the evolution question.

430 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:09:01pm

"I was for that TARP law before I was against it"

Kerry got slammed for that.

431 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:09:01pm

re: #424 Decatur Deb

If we had let the markets work, we would be marketing apples to each other on the street corners.

Not me...I'd be selling oranges. Fuck apples.

432 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:09:08pm

re: #425 Varek Raith

Whill Wheaton.

hwat?

433 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:09:21pm

Bachmann's voice is incredibly annoying.

434 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:09:29pm

re: #427 JasonA

Until just one is left...

There can be only one!

435 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:09:31pm

OWS w00t

436 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:09:41pm

Oh this should be good...OWS!

437 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:09:41pm

OWS question!

438 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:09:43pm

Man, Bachmann is promising everything to everyone.

439 JAFO  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:09:47pm

Will Michele ever share one of her plans to save America?

440 engineer cat  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:09:47pm

re: #422 Alexzander

Anyone know how long this debate goes for? 1.5 hours or 2?

this debate is giving the time/space continuum stretchmarks

441 elizajane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:09:48pm

Oh gag me. Is motherhood the ONLY card Michele has got?

442 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:10:15pm

Cain: bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla

443 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:10:26pm

Wall Street isn't something that Herman Cain is going to blame for anything...

444 krypto  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:10:26pm

re: #429 Charles

Hey, Anderson: they're all tired and stressed out. Now's a perfect time for the evolution question.

Gotta do OWS and "blame yourself if you're not rich" first.

445 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:10:26pm

Hold on, Moms...hug your children...unlss they've been outside playing in the toxic dirt...then hose them down with a solution of saline, sulphur, and detergent for thirty minutes, dry, THEN hug them.

446 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:10:26pm

re: #441 elizajane

Oh gag me. Is motherhood the ONLY card Michele has got?

Fallopian Plan.

447 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:10:26pm

They talk out of both sides of their mouth. They say "free market" but if it may cost them votes, they'll try to prop up house prices.

I did a calculation. If we were to tax the imputed income from "squatters rent" (the amount of "income" from people who stopped paying their mortgages), we'd cover our Foreign Aid bill completely. But George W. Bush signed into law a provision exempting forgiven mortgage debt from income tax.

448 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:10:27pm

Lot of fat rich white people like that line.

449 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:10:35pm

re: #438 makeitstop

Man, Bachmann is promising everything to everyone.

She's a mommy. And she knows just how mommies feel.

450 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:10:49pm

lol apologist for the criminal banking sector

451 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:10:58pm

end the fed!

452 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:10:58pm

Who will defend Wall Street?!? Who will stand up for the poor poor bankers?!?

453 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:10:59pm

Federal Reserve: DRINK!

454 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:11:02pm

re: #441 elizajane

Oh gag me. Is motherhood the ONLY card Michele has got?

Well, that and "Obama sucks."

455 JAFO  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:11:27pm

re: #441 elizajane

Oh gag me. Is motherhood the ONLY card Michele has got?

Do you know hard she had to work to get pregnant?

//

456 elizajane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:11:30pm

Don't blame Wall Street! It wasn't their fault! Blame Obama for the financial debacle because, well, we like to blame him.

And wait, is Paul saying that Wall Street is the VICTIM? I must have misheard.
(I did)

457 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:11:45pm

The only time Paul sound like I could like him!

458 Kragar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:12:06pm

re: #455 mracb

Do you know hard she had to work to get pregnant?

//

With that husband of hers? Harder than you might think...

459 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:12:29pm

They want the bankers to take the window, not the stairs.

460 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:12:39pm

Paul. If govt can't manage anything, why are you there?

461 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:12:39pm

Herman? We want JOBS, you asshole.

462 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:12:52pm

Don't put any trust in government.

And put me in charge of it.

-Ron Paul!

463 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:13:05pm

I scratch my head over the OWS complaints about Student Loan debt. I can believe a person could have been duped into buying a house he can't afford, but how can you be duped into attending classes, taking tests, and writing papers for 4 years?

(For example [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...] )

464 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:13:15pm

This is BY FAR the best debate I've seen so far.

465 jaunte  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:13:15pm

"You have to trust the banks to pay the rating agencies to rate their investment products. Why would they lie?"

466 OhNoZombies!  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:13:22pm

If Michelle started crying, I... Well I don't know what I was going to do, but crying?!?

467 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:13:34pm

CNN couldn't afford a fucking bell? Anderson says "Time!" and everyone ignores him.

468 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:13:45pm

"or how to create jobs" - wasn't it the talking point that the govt doesn't create jobs, not its job?

469 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:13:57pm

re: #464 bloodstar

Their answers are shit but it sure is entertaining.

470 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:13:57pm

How can he say "Home Values are going down?"

"Home VALUES" are going up! You're getting more for your dollar.

"HOUSE PRICES" are going down.

471 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:14:11pm

Romney almost told the truth...shit's been going downhill for 10 years, not three.

472 e5india  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:14:12pm

We can spend time talking about the causes of our problems.. or just make shit up.

473 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:14:24pm

Mitt is so full of crap. Obama will shred him in a debate.

474 elizajane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:14:36pm

Obama doesn't have a jobs plan? LIE.

475 mr.fusion  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:14:47pm

I really can't wait to see any of these jokers against President Obama.....the lies and hatred is just so ingrained in everything they stand for, I can't imagine any of them coming off well in that type of setting face to face with the President

476 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:14:58pm

re: #467 darthstar

CNN couldn't afford a fucking bell?

Well have you seen their ratings lately...?

477 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:14:58pm

Obama doesn't have a jobs plan?

What a douchey liar.

478 e5india  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:14:58pm

No jobs plan? WTF has Obama stumping for for the past two weeks?

479 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:15:28pm

re: #445 darthstar

In her defense, a whole bunch of POTUSes with peckers have screwed the pooch on the job.

(Not that I support the twit)

480 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:15:40pm

re: #474 elizajane

Obama doesn't have a jobs plan? LIE.

Such an obvious one too.

481 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:15:49pm

Need moar crack. biab

482 Lidane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:16:22pm

re: #463 reuven

I have to say, I scratch my head over the OWS complaints about Student Loan debt. I can believe a person could have been duped into buying a house you can't afford, but how can you be duped into attending classes, taking tests, and writing papers for 4 years?

As someone who will owe tens of thousands in student loans when I graduate with my MBA in May, let me answer that for you-- Federal student loans are PERMANENT debt. Nothing gets rid of them, not even bankruptcy. It is literally impossible to default on them. There are also stiff penalties for paying them early. Figure that one out.

483 krypto  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:16:49pm

re: #480 Sergey Romanov

Such an obvious one too.

No lie is too obvious to stop the mob in places like Fox news from endlessly repeating it.

484 Lidane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:17:09pm

re: #478 e5india

No jobs plan? WTF has Obama stumping for for the past two weeks?

He's touring the country to distract people from his scandals! Eleventy!

485 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:17:09pm

oo, candidates' faith

486 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:17:19pm

Conor Friedersdorf tweets: Note to conservatives: if you'd have listened to hippies on Vietnam and drug war we'd have been better off. That is all.

Amen brother!

487 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:17:44pm

It's not a REAL jobs plan!

488 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:17:58pm

re: #482 Lidane

As someone who will owe tens of thousands in student loans when I graduate with my MBA in May, let me answer that for you-- Federal student loans are PERMANENT debt.

With all due respect, were you fully informed of this going in? And are you able to stop at any time without incurring more debt?

489 elizajane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:18:13pm

Next up are the right to bear arms and should a candidate's faith matter.
Guns and Jesus...
Answers to those are so totally predictable that I'm going to check out now.
Bye lizards!

490 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:18:21pm

Only REAL Americans have REAL jobs plans!

491 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:18:39pm

re: #463 reuven

I scratch my head over the OWS complaints about Student Loan debt. I can believe a person could have been duped into buying a house he can't afford, but how can you be duped into attending classes, taking tests, and writing papers for 4 years?

(For example [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...] )

^Somebody who either didn't go to college, had it paid for by mommy/daddy or went before student loans became what they are.

492 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:18:41pm

But seriously - this is the first debate I've actually watched, and I can't see any of these people lasting in a string of debates with Obama.

He's probably smarter than every one of them put together.

493 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:18:50pm

Obaaamaaa toook our jeeeeeeeeerrbs

494 mr.fusion  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:18:58pm

re: #429 Charles

Hey, Anderson: they're all tired and stressed out. Now's a perfect time for the evolution question.

They're on twitter.....I say we twitter bomb CNN:

Anderson, ask them to raise their hand if they believe in evolution #CNNdebate

495 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:19:09pm

re: #488 reuven

With all due respect, were you fully informed of this going in? And are you able to stop at any time without incurring more debt?

When's the last time you went to college, reuven?

496 Kragar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:19:27pm

re: #489 elizajane

Next up are the right to bear arms and should a candidate's faith matter.
Answers to those are so totally predictable that I'm going to check out now.
Bye lizards!

I would convert right now if a booming voice interjected;

"For the record, I never endorsed any of these assholes."

497 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:19:41pm

I hope CNN gave them all a bong hit at break so they'd calm the fuck down.

498 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:19:52pm

I can't believe I'm putting off Arkham City for this crap.

499 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:19:52pm

faith!

500 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:19:53pm

MORMON-PALOOZA!!!

501 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:20:02pm

booooooo

502 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:20:10pm

Here we go...

503 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:20:14pm

Anderson stirring the shit.

504 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:20:23pm

They're actually yelling BOO-URNS!

505 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:20:23pm

This is one hell of a feisty crowd.

506 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:20:32pm

re: #496 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I would convert right now if a booming voice interjected;

"For the record, I never endorsed any of these assholes."

But what would you convert to? I don't think there's a pantheon out there that would back these yackos. I don't think there's a divine principle out there that wouldn't be backing away from endorsement.

507 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:20:40pm

re: #463 reuven

I have to say, I scratch my head over the OWS complaints about Student Loan debt. I can believe a person could have been duped into buying a house you can't afford, but how can you be duped into attending classes, taking tests, and writing papers for 4 years?

I'll take a stab at answering it. A college education has up to recently basically promised a well paying job for anyone but the most brain dead graduates. However, now, with tuition costs through the roof and people getting out of college and finding the best job available for them is working at a local grocery store. Then he's asked to pay back 20,000 or 30,000 in student loans while making $10 an hour.

There was an implied promise in a college education. and that's why people are angry, that promise is not being fulfilled, and yet, they're still expected to pay.

To use a car analogy, it's like getting your car fixed, only to find it won't drive out of the lot. And the mechanic still demands payment, even though the car isn't fixed.

508 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:20:40pm

re: #482 Lidane

The paying off early part is what should be chre: #492 makeitstop

Me too. Pretty much let the comments here inform me on all the last ones. If this is what Obama will be dealing with, his odds are up big time.

509 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:20:41pm

Nevada's full of fuckin' mormons.

510 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:20:46pm

Newt's values---

511 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:21:04pm

hmm frothy not so bad on faith

512 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:21:04pm

Ire: #491 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

^Somebody who either didn't go to college, had it paid for by mommy/daddy or went before student loans became what they are.

I went to college (B.A. '84, M.S '88). My parents didn't pay once cent. I took as many classes as possible at a community college, and worked 25 hours a week while going to school.

Admittedly, prices didn't bubble then. I agree that college tuition prices are WAY out of hand. But there's a point where consumers need to vote with their feet.

513 erik_t  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:21:04pm

re: #474 elizajane

Obama doesn't have a jobs plan? LIE.

Not intended to be a factual statement.

514 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:21:40pm

I can't believe Santorum's a Catholic...fucking stupid cocksucker. Sure the church is fucked up, but really? Santorum gets to be a member?

515 darthstar  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:21:56pm

ooh...new thread.

516 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:22:18pm

re: #514 darthstar

I can't believe Santorum's a Catholic...fucking stupid cocksucker. Sure the church is fucked up, but really? Santorum gets to be a member?

"...least of these..'

517 Four More Tears  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:22:26pm

Ah yes, the requisite theological discussion...

518 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:22:26pm

I know I dislike Newt the most.

He is a sleazy POS.

519 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:23:10pm

These people are all wacky!

Now excuse me while I shake my Lulav.

520 engineer cat  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:23:37pm

Thank you, Newt - America is a haven of religious freedom so Atheists Keep Out

521 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:23:45pm

re: #463 reuven

I scratch my head over the OWS complaints about Student Loan debt. I can believe a person could have been duped into buying a house he can't afford, but how can you be duped into attending classes, taking tests, and writing papers for 4 years?

(For example [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...] )

Another issue with the college loans thing is that many students were referred to predatory lenders by their college's financial aid office, and thus had a very rude awakening when the school's "advice" bit them in the rear.

522 teleskiguy  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:23:46pm

Rick Perry just totally freaking dodged the question.

523 Mark Winter  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:24:08pm

And I thought that German debates were torture...
What is Perry blabbering about faith? My head hurts.

524 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:25:05pm

He left out "mosque" and "temple". Intentional?

525 Lidane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:25:20pm

re: #488 reuven

With all due respect, were you fully informed of this going in? And are you able to stop at any time without incurring more debt?

I borrowed a certain amount for the entire academic year. Even if a miracle happened and I didn't want or need loans for this spring, the money's already borrowed for the year.

Also, I knew that bankruptcy didn't erase my student loans and that they're going to follow me forever until they're paid, but the stiff penalties for paying them off early was a surprise in the fine print. Even if I end up with a high paying job and make sacrifices upfront to pay off my loans, I'll be paying extra in fees for paying them off early. It's insane.

Basically, federal student loans mean that you can't pay them early without penalties, and you can't have them forgiven even if your entire life falls apart and you file for bankruptcy. If anything, the OWS complaints about them make the most sense to me.

526 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:26:48pm

I could deal with this a lot more if Bachmann would shut up.

527 diamonda2u  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:27:04pm

Genocidal maniac... it takes one to know one...LOL

528 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:27:16pm

re: #525 Lidane

Thanks for the explanation. I'll read more about the early payment penalty. That sounds very odd.

And I'm very sympathetic to this. I'd much rather the Government pay to help people with student debt than, say, pay to "cram down" the amount someone owes on a house.

But, still, it's hard to believe that people graduate and are surprised by the amount they owe.

529 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:28:07pm

Gee, I wonder where that supercommittee came from?

530 krypto  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:28:08pm

Ooops! Michele is almost supporting the Lord's Liberation Army. Almost.

531 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:29:09pm

Ron Paul has packed the audience.

532 Lidane  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:33:11pm

re: #528 reuven

I'm not surprised by the amount I'm going to owe. I'm more irritated by the system that surrounds student loans.

533 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 6:37:22pm

re: #138 JasonA

Why is Bachmann wearing white after Labor Day?

Because she wants to look pure?

534 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 7:13:33pm

re: #512 reuven

I

I went to college (B.A. '84, M.S '88).

Explains a lot.

Much in higher education has changed since the 80s, especially graduate education.

Thank you, Saint Ronald. e_e

535 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Oct 18, 2011 7:18:40pm

re: #528 reuven

TBut, still, it's hard to believe that people graduate and are surprised by the amount they owe.

That's not the issue, though. People who have to take out loans are all too aware of what they will owe by the time they graduate.

Have some student loans, be perfectly employable, then try paying them back with a $9/hr tutor or $13/hr temp job downtown.


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