1 Donna Ballard  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:14:51pm

Nice find Charles! Mr Stewart says it very well.

2 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:15:26pm

When we said take it to the streets, we didn't mean you bloody peasants!
/

3 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:22:04pm

I'd just dropped this downstairs :P

Total pwnage of the GOP

4 erik_t  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:23:06pm

Wait, two faces per (Republican) politician?

Someone get me my smelling salts.

5 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:31:38pm

re: #4 erik_t

Wait, two faces per (Republican) politician?

Someone get me my smelling salts.

Two feces might be more appropriate since they don't appear to give two shits about anything other than their own power and bank account.

6 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:34:48pm

Tea Party = Real Americans standing up for Their Rights under the Constitution.

OWS/Liberals/Progressives/GLBT/Blue Collar Workers/Women = Un-American scum who are trying to undermine the Constitution/Country by engaging in Class Warfare by demanding equality and fair wages.

Am I on the proper Republican page now?

7 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:36:22pm

How about some Stephen Colbert with that?

8 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:36:33pm

re: #6 Bubblehead II

Tea Party = Real Americans standing up for Their rights under the Constitution.

OWS/Liberals/Progressives/GLBT/Blue Collar Workers/Women = Un-American scum who are trying to undermine the Constitution/Country by engaging in Class Warfare by demanding equality and fair wages handouts of our hard-earned tax dollars?

Am I on the proper Republican page now?

FTFY

9 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:36:45pm

re: #6 Bubblehead II

Tea Party = Real Americans standing up for Their rights under the Constitution.

OWS/Liberals/Progressives/GLBT/Blue Collar Workers/Women = Un-American scum who are trying to undermine the Constitution/Country by engaging in Class Warfare by demanding equality and fair wages?

Am I on the proper Republican page now?

Hold on, you need a tricorn hat and a copy of the Turner Diaries

10 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:37:43pm

re: #8 oaktree

Might want to edit that and remove the strike out on demanding.

11 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:38:22pm

re: #10 Bubblehead II

Might want to edit that and remove the strike out on demanding.

The pencil is my friend. Already did.

12 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:40:00pm

re: #11 oaktree

The pencil is my friend. Already did.

Cool. 'PIMF' has been redefined.

Preview is still a close acquaintance, though.

13 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:43:00pm

re: #6 Bubblehead II

Tea Party = Real Americans standing up for Their Rights under the Constitution.

OWS/Liberals/Progressives/GLBT/Blue Collar Workers/Women = Un-American scum who are trying to undermine the Constitution/Country by engaging in Class Warfare by demanding equality and fair wages.

Am I on the proper Republican page now?

Pretty much...

14 darthstar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:45:33pm

Holy fuck...I just checked CNN and they're still covering the private zoo thing from Ohio. Yes, it's sad about the animals, but really, a full day of exclusive coverage?

15 makeitstop  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:46:25pm

re: #14 darthstar

Holy fuck...I just checked CNN and they're still covering the private zoo thing from Ohio. Yes, it's sad about the animals, but really, a full day of exclusive coverage?

Anything worth doing is worth overdoing if you're CNN.
/

16 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:47:56pm

re: #14 darthstar

Holy fuck...I just checked CNN and they're still covering the private zoo thing from Ohio. Yes, it's sad about the animals, but really, a full day of exclusive coverage?

PETA* should be sent there. They'll quickly solve the problem.


---
*People Eating Tasty Animals.

17 allegro  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:48:46pm

re: #14 darthstar

Holy fuck...I just checked CNN and they're still covering the private zoo thing from Ohio. Yes, it's sad about the animals, but really, a full day of exclusive coverage?

I can't watch it. It outrages me too bad knowing how easily most of those animals could be safely collected without killing them.

18 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:49:02pm

re: #9 WindUpBird

Hold on, you need a tricorn hat and a copy of the Turner Diaries

The former would look ridiculous on me and somewhere around here I think I actually have a copy of that piece of shit as well as another piece called Mein Kampf. Both are a disgusting read.

Why do I still have them? Once I obtain a book, no matter how much it sucks, I can't throw it away. Why did I obtain them in the first place? Well, you can't refute the writings if you haven't read them as well as a morbid curiosity for shunned books.

19 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:50:14pm

re: #17 allegro

I can't watch it. It outrageous me too bad knowing how easily most of those animals could be safely collected without killing them.

They tried but had no choice. It's either let them roam the neighborhoods or shoot them. It's a damn shame.

20 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:51:09pm

Biaw, One of those things us little people have to do for ourselves. Grocery shopping.

21 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:51:47pm

re: #18 Bubblehead II

The former would look ridiculous on me and somewhere around here I think I actually have a copy of that piece of shit as well as another piece called Mein Kampf. Both are a disgusting read.

Why do I still have them? Once I obtain a book, no matter how much it sucks, I can't throw it away. Why did I obtain them in the first place? Well, you can't refute the writings if you haven't read them as well as a morbid curiosity for shunned books.

Officer Barbrady: Yes, at first I was happy to be learning how to read. It seemed exciting and magical, but then I read this: Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. I read every last word of this garbage, and because of this piece of s**t, I am never reading again.

22 erik_t  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:52:30pm

re: #14 darthstar

Holy fuck...I just checked CNN and they're still covering the private zoo thing from Ohio. Yes, it's sad about the animals, but really, a full day of exclusive coverage?

You're assuming there's 24 hours worth of news on any given day. Any actual news event, no matter how trivial, must receive boundless coverage, thus saving extra talking-head time for tomorrow.

23 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:54:22pm

re: #18 Bubblehead II

The former would look ridiculous on me and somewhere around here I think I actually have a copy of that piece of shit as well as another piece called Mein Kampf. Both are a disgusting read.

Why do I still have them? Once I obtain a book, no matter how much it sucks, I can't throw it away. Why did I obtain them in the first place? Well, you can't refute the writings if you haven't read them as well as a morbid curiosity for shunned books.

I don't have enough time to read stuff I like! is there a cliff's notes for the Turner Diaries? :D

24 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:55:06pm

re: #23 WindUpBird

Yeah, it's called wikipedia. :P

25 BishopX  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:55:06pm

re: #19 NJDhockeyfan

They tried but had no choice. It's either let them roam the neighborhoods or shoot them. It's a damn shame.

Yeah, because somewhere between shooting animals with your side arm and issueing your deputies assault rifles and pickup trucks to hunt them down in, you couldn't possibly place a call to a zoo or your local game warden...nope that would make you look weak.

26 darthstar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:55:25pm

re: #22 erik_t

You're assuming there's 24 hours worth of news on any given day. Any actual news event, no matter how trivial, must receive boundless coverage, thus saving extra talking-head time for tomorrow.

I'd be happy with four hours of news in a given day.

27 darthstar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:56:50pm

re: #25 BishopX

Yeah, because somewhere between shooting animals with your side arm and issueing your deputies assault rifles and pickup trucks to hunt them down in, you couldn't possibly place a call to a zoo or your local game warden...nope that would make you look weak.

As I understand it, the animals were loose but still within the fence line of the property. Having been caged most, if not all, their lives, most would likely have gone back to their cages around feeding time.

28 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:57:05pm

Speaking of Ohio...
Get 'em Granny !

29 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:57:36pm

re: #23 WindUpBird

I don't have enough time to read stuff I like! is there a cliff's notes for the Turner Diaries? :D

Cliff notes:

"It was hard work having to gun down the scheming Jews and their lapdogs the blacks like the animals they are, but honestly it felt pretty rad, yo."

30 allegro  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:59:15pm

re: #27 darthstar

As I understand it, the animals were loose but still within the fence line of the property. Having been caged most, if not all, their lives, most would likely have gone back to their cages around feeding time.

Exactly. I was called on to fetch an adult male African lion from a Pasadena (TX) park once that had wandered off from a "collector." I have big problems with people keeping such animals but, that said, I didn't hesitate to take care of the beastie. He rode in the back of my gov. station wagon chomping on a roast I bought on the way.

31 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 2:59:58pm

re: #30 allegro

There are more lions and tigers in private hands in Texas than there are in the rest of the world.

32 allegro  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:02:29pm

re: #31 Obdicut

There are more lions and tigers in private hands in Texas than there are in the rest of the world.

That does not at all surprise me.

33 engineer cat  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:05:33pm

democratic jobs plan: hire people

republican jobs plan: cut taxes for wealthy folks, cut health regulations, and pray that the free market fairy will consider this to be a worthy sacrifice and cause it to rain jobs

34 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:06:06pm

re: #27 darthstar
Local news says the guy couldn't afford them, so he set them free before killing himself. Jack Hanna (Columbus zoo) said the property was a mess and someone was going to get killed.
Lions, tiger, wolves, baboons, etc.
Ohio has no laws or regulations against keeping wild animals.

35 garhighway  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:08:24pm

re: #22 erik_t

You're assuming there's 24 hours worth of news on any given day. Any actual news event, no matter how trivial, must receive boundless coverage, thus saving extra talking-head time for tomorrow.

Here's The Onion's take on how CNN fills up its day:

36 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:08:40pm

OT, but on a discussion at the TVTropes forum right now, someone said the United States looks alot like the Ottoman Empire circa 19th Century.

I've heard this comparison before too.

37 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:09:16pm

Windmills to shut at night following demise of rare bat

LILLY — Night operation of the windmills in the North Allegheny Windpower Project has been halted following discovery of a dead Indiana bat under one of the turbines, an official with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service said Monday.

The finding marks only the second location where an Indiana bat has been found dead under a wind turbine. Two Indiana bats were found under turbines in the Mid-west, said Clint Riley, supervisor for Fish and Wildlife’s Pennsylvania field office.

“While finding the dead bat is not good news for any of us, it does show the monitoring works,” Riley said from his State College office.

The find is significant because the Indiana bat is an endangered species and is protected by the federal Endangered Species Act.

I wonder if they would halt operation of the windmill during the daytime if an endangered bird was killed?

38 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:10:04pm

re: #36 ProLifeLiberal

OT, but on a discussion at the TVTropes forum right now, someone said the United States looks alot like the Ottoman Empire circa 19th Century.

I've heard this comparison before too.

The Ottoman Empire didn't have iPads!

39 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:13:00pm

New Apostolic Reformation Leader Calls For Critics to be Silenced

Hey, whats the worst that could happen?
/

40 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:14:17pm

re: #34 OhNoZombies!

Local news says the guy couldn't afford them, so he set them free before killing himself. Jack Hanna (Columbus zoo) said the property was a mess and someone was going to get killed.
Lions, tiger, wolves, baboons, etc.
Ohio has no laws or regulations against keeping wild animals.

I found this. So, they're doing something.
COLUMBUS, Ohio — The Humane Society of the United States applauds Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland for issuing an executive order that prohibits keeping dangerous wild animals as pets. The rule bans new private ownership of big cats, bears, primates, alligators, crocodiles, and particularly large and dangerous constricting snakes and venomous snakes. Individuals who currently possess these animals and who have never had their licenses revoked may keep them, but they must register with the state and microchip the animals. They cannot replace them once they die or are relinquished.
[Link: www.humanesociety.org...]

41 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:15:24pm

re: #38 NJDhockeyfan

But they did have crippling debt, a bloated military (Hi Janissaries), an outdated infrastructure system, an over-reliance on foreign states in various ways, and the disruptive influence of certain foreign states (Britain, France, Austria, Germany, and Russia for the Ottomans; Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and China for the US)

42 Charleston Chew  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:16:50pm

re: #22 erik_t

You're assuming there's 24 hours worth of news on any given day. Any actual news event, no matter how trivial, must receive boundless coverage, thus saving extra talking-head time for tomorrow.

There's far more than 24 hours of news a day, but reporting on real news costs real money. For the shareholders of Time Warner focued on maximizing profits and minimizing expenses, cheap news is good news.

43 recusancy  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:20:08pm

re: #41 ProLifeLiberal

But they did have crippling debt, a bloated military (Hi Janissaries), an outdated infrastructure system, an over-reliance on foreign states in various ways, and the disruptive influence of certain foreign states (Britain, France, Austria, Germany, and Russia for the Ottomans; Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and China for the US)

We don't have crippling debt.

44 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:20:11pm

TPM catches up on Zombie's Nazi Hashtags

Red River Rover

Oh man ...

Seems that this Mr Zombie dude came up with that whacked out idea right after slamming two 5-hour energy drinks while eating a 6 pack of sugar donuts washed down with large double red-eye...

Back away from the caffeine... dude!
...
Yinzer Nation

Back when Touch-Tone phones were invented, the Bell System tried to get the "#" sign renamed an "octothorpe." And what happened in October 1917? The Russian Revolution! It all fits!

Later, I'll explain why the "*" sign looks like a cat's butt. (Hint: Time Magazine called Stalin "the cat in the Kremlin"!) Pay attention, people! The clues are all around us! /glennbeck

I can't believe anyone takes these people --- the far-right-wing lunatic bloggers --- seriously. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
...
lordvasu

Umm... Really? I think he's a nazi for posing on right-wing blogging sites as a "reporter". A real reporter wouldn't be grasping as straws the way he is. And would work on verifiying facts before even opening his mouth. But not with the Right... Nope, can't have facts muddy up the picture. Can't have learned people saying anything... Nope none of that, intelligence is the mark of the Beast, Obama... And if your intelligent, your not really an american.... At least they would like us to believe. But this guy can post his "feelings" and some right wing site will pay him as if he was a reporter. How sad...

45 Charleston Chew  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:20:24pm

re: #34 OhNoZombies!

Local news says the guy couldn't afford them, so he set them free before killing himself. Jack Hanna (Columbus zoo) said the property was a mess and someone was going to get killed.
Lions, tiger, wolves, baboons, etc.
Ohio has no laws or regulations against keeping wild animals.

Which begs the question - why wouldn't he just give up the animals? Surely there's organizations that would find a home for them.

46 darthstar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:20:33pm

re: #34 OhNoZombies!

Local news says the guy couldn't afford them, so he set them free before killing himself. Jack Hanna (Columbus zoo) said the property was a mess and someone was going to get killed.
Lions, tiger, wolves, baboons, etc.
Ohio has no laws or regulations against keeping wild animals.

And John Boehner's still running around free with his orange ass sticking up in the air.

47 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:21:56pm

re: #43 recusancy

Well, we wouldn't if we could do the sane thing with Tax Cuts.

However, a good size chunk of the nation is delusional on this. Hence, we have a self-inflicted wound.

It could be solved quite easily. Unfortunately, rigid ideology is getting in the way.

48 Charleston Chew  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:22:35pm

re: #36 ProLifeLiberal

OT, but on a discussion at the TVTropes forum right now, someone said the United States looks alot like the Ottoman Empire circa 19th Century.

I've heard this comparison before too.

I don't think the US is old enough to be compared to OE in the 19th cent. Wasn't it like 500 years old?

49 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:23:27pm

re: #40 Cannadian Club Akbar

He (Strickland) issued an executive order before he left, but apparently it hasn't been enforced.
It's an ongoing problem; a few years back, one of my parents' neighbor's kids was eaten by a grizzly bear he was keeping. I'm going to see if I can dig up the story, but if my memory is correct, he got 0 jail time, and his property wasn't properly secured. It was a sty.

O/T- we have a lot of crazy here. Jeffery Dahmer grew up about 5 miles away from my house. :o

50 Charleston Chew  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:24:20pm

re: #37 NJDhockeyfan

Windmills to shut at night following demise of rare bat

I wonder if they would halt operation of the windmill during the daytime if an endangered bird was killed?

Meanwhile, coal plants are slowly killing us all, but no shutdown there.

51 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:25:00pm

re: #46 darthstar

Don't remind me...
Now excuse me while I go find my tranquilizer gun.
//

52 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:25:09pm

re: #48 Charleston Chew

I don't think the US is old enough to be compared to OE in the 19th cent. Wasn't it like 500 years old?

1299-1923

53 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:25:18pm

re: #49 OhNoZombies!

He (Strickland) issued an executive order before he left, but apparently it hasn't been enforced.
It's an ongoing problem; a few years back, one of my parents' neighbor's kids was eaten by a grizzly bear he was keeping. I'm going to see if I can dig up the story, but if my memory is correct, he got 0 jail time, and his property wasn't properly secured. It was a sty.

O/T- we have a lot of crazy here. Jeffery Dahmer grew up about 5 miles away from my house. :o

I highlighted the "grandfather clause" that usually goes with new legislation. Also, remind me to not live near you.
/

54 Charleston Chew  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:25:33pm

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

New Apostolic Reformation Leader Calls For Critics to be Silenced

Hey, whats the worst that could happen?
/

55 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:26:31pm

re: #50 Charleston Chew

Meanwhile, coal plants are slowly killing us all, but no shutdown there.

Why don't we just shut off all electricity and heat and live in tents. That would save so many lives.
///

56 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:26:44pm

re: #53 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ohio, The Heart of it All !
( that's our slogan, heh heh.)

57 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:26:47pm

re: #48 Charleston Chew

You would have a point, but the US has one of the oldest surviving governments on earth right now. The Ottomans were in the same boat at the time. The best way to describe this is that things move quicker in some ways now than the days of the Ottoman Empire.

Alot of old governments were ended in revolutionary waves. The first being in the 1780's-1800's Time Frame. The Second was in the 1848-1870 era, and the third one after World War I.

By my memory, the US Government is the 3rd Oldest Functioning without interruption (Only the UK and Swedish Governments are older).

58 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:26:52pm

re: #55 NJDhockeyfan

Why don't we just shut off all electricity and heat and live in tents. That would save so many lives.
///

lol republican

59 darthstar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:27:16pm

re: #51 OhNoZombies!

Don't remind me...
Now excuse me while I go find my tranquilizer gun.
//

I'm assuming you will be pointing it at yourself in this instance.

60 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:27:19pm

re: #47 ProLifeLiberal

Well, we wouldn't if we could do the sane thing with Tax Cuts.

However, a good size chunk of the nation is delusional on this. Hence, we have a self-inflicted wound.

It could be solved quite easily. Unfortunately, rigid ideology is getting in the way.

America is in favor of higher taxes on those earning over a million - support is in the high 60% in polls.

Even "Republicans" (generic ones) are by and large in favour of higher taxes for millionaires..... the red meat base (the 20% dead enders) are being insane tho

61 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:27:23pm

re: #14 darthstar

Holy fuck...I just checked CNN and they're still covering the private zoo thing from Ohio. Yes, it's sad about the animals, but really, a full day of exclusive coverage?

Dude...that was, like, two counties over from where I live when I'm up here during the week. Talk about a surreal news story to wake you up in the morning.

Also, hi.

62 Charleston Chew  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:27:38pm

re: #40 Cannadian Club Akbar

I found this. So, they're doing something.
COLUMBUS, Ohio — The Humane Society of the United States applauds Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland for issuing an executive order that prohibits keeping dangerous wild animals as pets. The rule bans new private ownership of big cats, bears, primates, alligators, crocodiles, and particularly large and dangerous constricting snakes and venomous snakes. Individuals who currently possess these animals and who have never had their licenses revoked may keep them, but they must register with the state and microchip the animals. They cannot replace them once they die or are relinquished.
[Link: www.humanesociety.org...]

Should now read former gov. Strickland. The current Gov probably considers this "job-killing regulation".

63 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:27:58pm

re: #61 Aceofwhat?

Dude...that was, like, two counties over from where I live when I'm up here during the week. Talk about a surreal news story to wake you up in the morning.

Also, hi.

Where the fuck have you been?:)

64 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:28:31pm

re: #55 NJDhockeyfan

Why don't we just shut off all electricity and heat and live in tents. That would save so many lives.
///

Thorium, baby.

65 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:29:01pm

re: #62 Charleston Chew

The link was from January. I don't actually follow Ohio politics. I have enough nuts in Florida.

66 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:29:18pm

re: #63 Cannadian Club Akbar

Where the fuck have you been?:)

Flying to and from Ohio every week. LGF time suffers greatly. Apparently my wife and kids 'miss' me or some such thing.

67 darthstar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:29:45pm

re: #61 Aceofwhat?

Dude...that was, like, two counties over from where I live when I'm up here during the week. Talk about a surreal news story to wake you up in the morning.

Also, hi.

What-up, Ace? How the fuck are you?

68 darthstar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:30:09pm

re: #66 Aceofwhat?

Flying to and from Ohio every week. LGF time suffers greatly. Apparently my wife and kids 'miss' me or some such thing.

Tell her to spend more time at the range.

69 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:30:47pm

re: #60 wozzablog

America is in favor of higher taxes on those earning over a million - support is in the high 60% in polls.

Even "Republicans" (generic ones) are by and large in favour of higher taxes for millionaires... the red meat base (the 20% dead enders) are being insane tho

No question. It just doesn't generate as much revenue as you'd think (which Oregon recently discovered) and certainly not enough to impact the deficit in a meaningful sense. But still, now's not a good time to feel sorry for the poor millionaires.

70 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:31:20pm

Evening Lizardim. What's the good word?

71 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:31:48pm

re: #70 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim. What's the good word?

BBBBB Bird. Bird is the word.

72 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:32:07pm

re: #71 Sergey Romanov

BBB Bird. Bird is the word.

That's lovely, now what's the bad word?

73 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:32:34pm

re: #72 thedopefishlives

That's lovely, now what's the bad word?

Can't say. Family thread.

74 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:32:46pm

re: #62 Charleston Chew

He should have been re-elected. Southern Ohio is the bane of the northeast -- my neck of th woods...

75 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:33:07pm

re: #68 darthstar

Tell her to spend more time at the range.

Speaking of ranges, i was wondering if I should set up a coupla tin cans outside and get my marksmanship back up to snuff...but I think they tracked down most of the animals.

The only funny part in this sad situation is that one of the escaped lions ate one of the escaped monkeys, or so i read. How great is that? We have ten million excess deer (not a precise figure, mind you) and the lion finds a monkey.

76 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:33:09pm

re: #69 Aceofwhat?

No question. It just doesn't generate as much revenue as you'd think (which Oregon recently discovered) and certainly not enough to impact the deficit in a meaningful sense. But still, now's not a good time to feel sorry for the poor millionaires.

The high polling figures are on the millionaire tax rates - but there is broad support for a generalised higher rate.

An increase on those higher earners will yield far more than rinsing the poor - which seems to be the only thing the GOP pols can come up with as a policy.

77 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:34:00pm

re: #75 Aceofwhat?

Maybe the lion had the monkey as an appetizer?

78 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:35:14pm

re: #76 wozzablog

The high polling figures are on the millionaire tax rates - but there is broad support for a generalised higher rate.

An increase on those higher earners will yield far more than rinsing the poor - which seems to be the only thing the GOP pols can come up with as a policy.

Frankly, it's hard to raise more than 20% of GDP no matter what you do. We're better off getting more from higher earners, flattening corporate taxes while crushing loopholes, and learning to live within 20%.

79 darthstar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:35:50pm

re: #75 Aceofwhat?

Speaking of ranges, i was wondering if I should set up a coupla tin cans outside and get my marksmanship back up to snuff...but I think they tracked down most of the animals.

The only funny part in this sad situation is that one of the escaped lions ate one of the escaped monkeys, or so i read. How great is that? We have ten million excess deer (not a precise figure, mind you) and the lion finds a monkey.

The lion CHOSE a monkey...those fuckers are cute, but annoying. Deer are just cute.

80 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:36:10pm

re: #72 thedopefishlives

That's lovely, now what's the bad word?

Poontang

81 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:36:31pm

re: #73 Sergey Romanov

Can't say. Family thread.

Fair enough.

re: #78 Aceofwhat?

Frankly, it's hard to raise more than 20% of GDP no matter what you do. We're better off getting more from higher earners, flattening corporate taxes while crushing loopholes, and learning to live within 20%.

Good luck talking any politician into that one.

82 Charleston Chew  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:38:04pm

re: #74 OhNoZombies!

He should have been re-elected. Southern Ohio is the bane of the northeast -- my neck of th woods...

Makes politics interesting. When I lived near Columbus, the state felt like 4 or 5 states in one. Hillbilly Southeast aka North West West Virginia, conservative Ohio Valley, college town Columbus, rustbelt towns in the North, and Cleveland - the most western part of New Jersey.

83 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:38:09pm

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

Maybe the lion had the monkey as an appetizer?

I figure it's the only animal he recognized. You know, you're a lion wandering around in Muskingum County, OH and you're thinking "where the fuck am I" when all of a sudden, boom - you smell a monkey. And you think..."hell, i don't know where I am, but i know what dinner smells like".

As the deer look at each other and say "dude i need to lay off the weed, i just saw a tabby cat the size of my ex-girlfriend".

84 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:39:08pm

re: #79 darthstar

The lion CHOSE a monkey...those fuckers are cute, but annoying. Deer are just cute.

He doesn't know what he's missing. Venison is tasty. I've never had monkey, but i figure it's somewhat akin to human.

Insert awkward pause here.

85 darthstar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:40:05pm

re: #84 Aceofwhat?

He doesn't know what he's missing. Venison is tasty. I've never had monkey, but i figure it's somewhat akin to human.

Insert awkward pause here.

I'll stick with venison myself...I won't eat anything that has an opposable thumb.

86 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:40:31pm

re: #83 Aceofwhat?

I figure it's the only animal he recognized. You know, you're a lion wandering around in Muskingum County, OH and you're thinking "where the fuck am I" when all of a sudden, boom - you smell a monkey. And you think..."hell, i don't know where I am, but i know what dinner smells like".

As the deer look at each other and say "dude i need to lay off the weed, i just saw a tabby cat the size of my ex-girlfriend".

That right there just won you an Internet.

87 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:40:56pm

re: #78 Aceofwhat?

Frankly, it's hard to raise more than 20% of GDP no matter what you do. We're better off getting more from higher earners, flattening corporate taxes while crushing loopholes, and learning to live within 20%.

We also need to regulate so that enormous damage isn't being done, so that we can stick within that 20%.

Hard to stick within 20% when you need to come up with a solution to AGW and clean up other pollution and deal with fiscal meltdown and ENRON style fraud etc.

The only thing better than solving a problem is not having the problem in the first place.

88 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:41:56pm

re: #87 Obdicut

Thorium ftw!

89 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:44:44pm

re: #82 Charleston Chew

Yep. There's a little town nearby called Barberton which we lovingly call 'Barbertucky'.
The steel-mills drew a lot of folks from W.VA. Uh, lots of uh, country music around here.
:)

90 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:46:38pm

re: #89 OhNoZombies!

Yep. There's a little town nearby called Barberton which we lovingly call 'Barbertucky'.
The steel-mills drew a lot of folks from W.VA. Uh, lots of uh, country music around here.
:)

Hey, cool, you're not too far from where i spent a lot of my adolescence. I went to Case. Lived in Cleveland Heights (near Coventry) for a while.

91 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:46:56pm

Quick, there's a troll in the basement!

92 Charleston Chew  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:48:33pm

re: #35 garhighway

Here's The Onion's take on how CNN fills up its day:

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

Maybe the best Onion piece ever.

"I'm an older man so you can trust what I say."

93 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:48:46pm

re: #91 Sergey Romanov

Quick, there's a troll in the basement!

Mmm, winter barbecue. In honor of the impending freeze, tonight's troll shall be grilled in turkey fat with vegetables.

94 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:49:12pm

re: #91 Sergey Romanov

Quick, there's a troll in the basement!

Thanks, i needed a talking point refresher.

Honestly, it's a sad existence if it isn't self parody or living art.

95 Lidane  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:49:27pm

When did the History Channel become the Conspiracy Channel? Every damned thing I've seen today is about how Presidents through history are all part of some UFO conspiracy keeping people in the dark about aliens.

WTF.

96 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:49:39pm

re: #92 Charleston Chew

Maybe the best Onion piece ever.

"I'm an older man so you can trust what I say."

Thats what my priest said......

97 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:50:02pm

Cool! I grew up in NW Akron, and live in Copley.

98 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:50:55pm

re: #95 Lidane

When did the History Channel become the Conspiracy Channel? Every damned thing I've seen today is about how Presidents through history are all part of some UFO conspiracy keeping people in the dark about aliens.

WTF.

It's been that way for a while, really. Next thing you know, they'll be screening Loose Change.

99 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:51:34pm

re: #95 Lidane

When did the History Channel become the Conspiracy Channel? Every damned thing I've seen today is about how Presidents through history are all part of some UFO conspiracy keeping people in the dark about aliens.

WTF.

Srsly? They do, really, show this stuff?

100 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:53:05pm

Conspiracies: You don't have to prove they're true. You make others prove they're not true. Talk about an easy button.

101 Charleston Chew  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:53:31pm

re: #95 Lidane

When did the History Channel become the Conspiracy Channel? Every damned thing I've seen today is about how Presidents through history are all part of some UFO conspiracy keeping people in the dark about aliens.

WTF.

Happened many years ago. I imagine an exec running into an office to warn his boss, "Well, the day we always feared has finally come. We've literally shown every piece of footage of Hitler ever. Now what?"

His boss puts a reassuring hand on his shoulder, "UFOs and ice road truckers, my friend. UFOs and ice road truckers."

102 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:53:41pm

re: #99 Sergey Romanov

Srsly? They do, really, show this stuff?

Yeah. They have a lot of documentaries that show the "other side of history". Even in the documentaries that play straight up, they almost always feature the conspiratorial view somewhere in the show. It's a bit off-putting, honestly.

103 garhighway  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:54:45pm

re: #97 OhNoZombies!

Cool! I grew up in NW Akron, and live in Copley.

I'm from Geauga County! Home of the Maple Festival, heart of the Snow Belt, home of the Great Geauga County Fair, Ohio's Oldest Fair!

104 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:55:26pm

When did SciFi channel become the derp channel ?
Wrestling. Really?//

105 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:56:49pm

re: #103 garhighway

I'm from Geauga County! Home of the Maple Festival, heart of the Snow Belt, home of the Great Geauga County Fair, Ohio's Oldest Fair!

Bought my first home in Bedford, Ohio!

106 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:58:07pm

re: #104 OhNoZombies!

When did SciFi channel become the derp channel ?
Wrestling. Really?//

When they dropped Farscape and MST3k.

107 Charleston Chew  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:58:44pm

re: #102 thedopefishlives

Yeah. They have a lot of documentaries that show the "other side of history". Even in the documentaries that play straight up, they almost always feature the conspiratorial view somewhere in the show. It's a bit off-putting, honestly.

Part of a larger problem. Conspiracies are a great business model. Much better than the truth.

Take a documentary debunking UFOs, Big Foot, etc. -Time filled: 2 hours at most.

Shows about what maybe could-be might-be un-answered-questions possible-connections is-it-true-?, etc. - Time filled: Infinite.

There's your solid business model.

108 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 3:59:10pm

re: #103 garhighway

Good ol' lake effect! Dick Goddard, who is now older than Jesus, is still Predicting the weather like nobody's business...wooly bears yay!

109 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:00:55pm

re: #106 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

When they cancelled Farscape, I died a little inside...

110 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:01:35pm

Another Republican infiltrator....
"Occupy" Figure Is Wanted Man In Bizarre, Oily Case

Cops found Booth laying face up on a blanket “with his entire genitals showing.” Nearby, officers found the book “Gay Power,” a “Kroger bottle of extra virgin olive oil,” two cans of Miller beer, and Marlboro cigarettes, according to an arrest report.
...
“I’m a Republican and the cigarettes pay your taxes.”

111 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:03:52pm

re: #110 Killgore Trout

Another Republican infiltrator...
"Occupy" Figure Is Wanted Man In Bizarre, Oily Case

Hey! He said so himself! ////

112 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:04:06pm

re: #95 Lidane

When did the History Channel become the Conspiracy Channel? Every damned thing I've seen today is about how Presidents through history are all part of some UFO conspiracy keeping people in the dark about aliens.

WTF.

It's no long the History Channel. It's the Hysteria Channel.

113 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:04:24pm

re: #111 Sergey Romanov

Hey! He said so himself! ///

He had me at "exposed genitals"...

114 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:04:34pm

re: #95 Lidane

When did the History Channel become the Conspiracy Channel? Every damned thing I've seen today is about how Presidents through history are all part of some UFO conspiracy keeping people in the dark about aliens.

WTF.

Ancient Aliens: because brown people couldn't possibly build something that complicated....

Slight exaggeration, I know, since they get all dewy about menhir fields and chalk cuts--but you never hear these dumbasses talking about the Greeks and Romans being guided by little grey men.

115 Charleston Chew  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:04:55pm

re: #104 OhNoZombies!

When did SciFi channel become the derp channel ?
Wrestling. Really?//

Really this stuff happened about 10 years ago. I remember an article in Variety about how cable channels felt hemmed in by the theoretical topic they were named for. Around the time that sleepy little for-profit-PBS-type channel The Learning Channel found monster ratings with shows like "Trading Spaces", changed its names to TLC and said goodbye to "learning" and hello to ratings (and Jon And Kate Plus 8, etc). When's the last time you saw music on MTV? 1997?

116 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:05:11pm

re: #109 OhNoZombies!

When they cancelled Farscape, I died a little inside...

Swapping half the cast over to Stargate is what pissed me off.

117 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:05:21pm

re: #113 Aceofwhat?

He had me at "exposed genitals"...

Yah, I could figure by your new av. Where's it from?

Long time no see, BTW.

118 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:06:47pm

Jon's joke about Cantor and the mother jokes reminds me of my analogy about bullies. Really unfrigging believable the about face these Republicans do.

119 garhighway  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:07:17pm

re: #108 OhNoZombies!

Good ol' lake effect! Dick Goddard, who is now older than Jesus, is still Predicting the weather like nobody's business...wooly bears yay!

Is he really? I haven't lived there in over 20 years. I can't believe he's still at it.

120 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:08:27pm

re: #116 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Swapping half the cast over to Stargate is what pissed me off.

Farscate

121 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:08:32pm

re: #114 The Ghost of a Flea

Ancient Aliens: because brown people couldn't possibly build something that complicated...

Slight exaggeration, I know, since they get all dewy about menhir fields and chalk cuts--but you never hear these dumbasses talking about the Greeks and Romans being guided by little grey men.

You've seen the retired engineer building stonehenge in his backyard by hand, right? There are a thousand little tricks that a smart person can use to move unusually large objects.

122 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:08:40pm

re: #116 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Swapping half the cast over to Stargate is what pissed me off.

Not to mention, the quality of Stargate fell off quite a bit after that move.

123 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:09:51pm

re: #117 Sergey Romanov

Yah, I could figure by your new av. Where's it from?

Long time no see, BTW.

You haven't seen Archer??? Allow me to introduce you to the best show currently being produced...anywhere.

[Link: www.fxnetworks.com...]

124 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:10:06pm

It's dividing America to suggest the rich should pay more taxes but it's taking back America to bitch about liberals.

125 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:10:51pm

re: #123 Aceofwhat?

Hey, that's why I asked. To find new wicked shyt to watch.

126 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:10:58pm

GOP candidate uses Gay and Lesbian sponsored event to preach against homosexuality

The Arlington Gay & Lesbian Alliance held a candidate forum last night for Virginia Delegate Adam Ebbin (D) and Tim McGhee (R), who are vying for a seat in the Virginia Senate. McGhee decided to use the opportunity to reach out to the audience with a short Bible-based anti-gay sermon, suggesting God created homosexuals as sinners so that He could forgive them:

MCGHEE: For some of you here this evening, your frustrations go way beyond a state senate candidate. Some of you are beyond frustrated with God right now. Some of you refuse to believe in Him altogether. You’ve asked the question or perhaps given up asking a long time ago, “Why? Why would God make me who I am and then tell me that it’ wrong?” May I put a question before you tonight? What if that’s exactly what God did? What if that’s exactly what God had to do to fully demonstrate who he is?

DERP!

127 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:11:11pm

re: #116 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Stargate = beating the shit out of a dead horse.

128 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:11:19pm

re: #121 Aceofwhat?

You've seen the retired engineer building stonehenge in his backyard by hand, right? There are a thousand little tricks that a smart person can use to move unusually large objects.

I love people who do stuff like that. When I was a kid there was an article about archaeologists and amateur engineers trying to erect a Rapa Nui-scale moai using Stone Age tech. I think I actually wore the gloss off those magazine pages.

129 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:11:21pm

re: #125 Sergey Romanov

Hey, that's why I asked. To find new wicked shyt to watch.

It will bring you joy.

130 garhighway  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:11:32pm

Gotta go. Have a nice evening, all.

131 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:11:53pm

re: #122 thedopefishlives

Not to mention, the quality of Stargate fell off quite a bit after that move.

"Merlin? Thats what you're going with? Really?"

132 erik_t  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:12:37pm

LOL

"Let's park the campaign bus, put away the talking points, and do something to address this jobs crisis," McConnell said. "The American people want action. The election's 13 months away. Let's do what we were elected to do."

/votes against cloture
//votes against cloture again

133 [deleted]  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:12:56pm
134 Charleston Chew  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:14:05pm

re: #126 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

MCGHEE: For some of you here this evening, your frustrations go way beyond a state senate candidate. Some of you are beyond frustrated with God right now. Some of you refuse to believe in Him altogether. You’ve asked the question or perhaps given up asking a long time ago, “Why? Why would God make me who I am and then tell me that it’ wrong?” May I put a question before you tonight? What if that’s exactly what God did? What if that’s exactly what God had to do to fully demonstrate who he is?

What if Germany had won the war?
What if apes ruled the earth?
What if Spock had a goatee?

So many questions...

135 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:14:34pm

re: #111 Sergey Romanov

Hey! He said so himself! ///

I don't know if you saw the video from OWS but his arrest was actually nice. In the true spirit of civil obedience, he sat there calmly and quietly, didn't resist, fight or scream. Too bad he's such a nut.

136 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:14:44pm

re: #134 Charleston Chew

What if apes ruled the earth?

But we do.

137 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:14:55pm

re: #131 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Merlin? Thats what you're going with? Really?"

They'd already depleted their strategic pantheism reserves.

138 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:14:56pm

re: #119 garhighway

Spry as ever !

139 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:15:07pm

re: #135 Killgore Trout

Druggie, you think?

140 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:15:36pm

re: #126 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

GOP candidate uses Gay and Lesbian sponsored event to preach against homosexuality

DERP!

What an asshole. Adam should win that seat easily though. Arlington's one of the more liberal parts of the state and he's been a delegate for a while now.

141 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:15:36pm

re: #137 The Ghost of a Flea

They'd already depleted their strategic pantheism reserves.

It's the Scifi Channel, for cryin' out loud. You can't tell me they don't have better options.

142 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:15:56pm

re: #134 Charleston Chew

What if Germany had won the war?
What if apes ruled the earth?
What if Spock had a goatee?

So many questions...

What if the attendees at the forum say "fuck this asshole" and vote for the other guy?

143 Charleston Chew  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:16:42pm

re: #142 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What if the attendees at the forum say "fuck this asshole" and vote for the other guy?

Highly plausible.

144 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:16:47pm

re: #139 Sergey Romanov

Druggie, you think?

Sounds like it, maybe mental health issues too.

145 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:16:54pm

re: #137 The Ghost of a Flea

They'd already depleted their strategic pantheism reserves.

Should have gone with Cthulhu

146 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:19:29pm
147 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:20:36pm

re: #129 Aceofwhat?

It will bring you joy.

I'm sold.

148 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:20:57pm

re: #146 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mitt Romney Thinks China Should Take Over U.S. Humanitarian Aid Programs

Yeah, that'll work.

It's a joke.

149 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:21:16pm

re: #148 Sergey Romanov

It's a joke.

I was joking about it being a joke. Jeez, guys, can't you take a joke?

150 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:21:26pm
MCGHEE: For some of you here this evening, your frustrations go way beyond a state senate candidate. Some of you are beyond frustrated with God right now. Some of you refuse to believe in Him altogether. You’ve asked the question or perhaps given up asking a long time ago, “Why? Why would God make me who I am and then tell me that it’ wrong?” May I put a question before you tonight? What if that’s exactly what God did? What if that’s exactly what God had to do to fully demonstrate who he is?

When people say stuff like this, the Yazidis begins to make more sense.

151 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:22:07pm

re: #149 thedopefishlives

I was joking about it being a joke. Jeez, guys, can't you take a joke?

Don't give'em ideas.

152 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:22:14pm

re: #148 Sergey Romanov

It's a joke.

Unless you're into it...are you into it?

153 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:23:05pm

re: #151 Sergey Romanov

Don't give'em ideas.

Well, that's kinda what Herman Cain did with his electrified fence joke-that-wasn't-a-joke...

154 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:23:10pm

re: #152 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Unless you're into it...are you into it?

I'm into it.*

---

* Disclaimer: may or may not be a joke.

155 erik_t  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:23:18pm

re: #146 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mitt Romney Thinks China Should Take Over U.S. Humanitarian Aid Programs

Yeah, that'll work.

America is Exceptional. That's why we need the Chinese to cover for us on the real heavy lifting.

That makes sense.

Maybe we're supposed to be excepted from the task of helping the less fortunate?

156 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:23:56pm

re: #147 Sergey Romanov

I'm sold.

[Video]

There are entire episodes filled with that stuff. That's not just the best of it, that's average. It will literally spoil most of the rest of what you're watching.

157 Kragar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:24:09pm

Colbert totally got into the "it was a joke" thing.

"We should hang out with your friend Donna, maybe have a threesome... I WAS JOKING."

158 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:25:08pm

True. Very true, currently doing the rounds on fb....

Thats about right..

159 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:28:04pm

Carla Bruni had a baby girl.

Murphy's law says it will look like Dad.

160 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:29:19pm

re: #159 EmmmieG

Carla Bruni had a baby girl.

Murphy's law says it will look like Dad.

Ever the optimist ;)

161 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:30:39pm

re: #159 EmmmieG

Carla Bruni had a baby girl.

Murphy's law says it will look like Dad.

I don't know, what does her milkman look like?....

162 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:33:45pm

re: #161 wozzablog

I don't know, what does her milkman look like?...

Mick Jagger. Damndest thing...

163 Ming  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:36:10pm

re: #17 allegro

I can't watch it. It outrages me too bad knowing how easily most of those animals could be safely collected without killing them.

I'm glad to be a long-time pesca-vegetarian, but I still feel terrible about the unnecessary killing of these exotic animals.

To make a political point, it seems that if we're ever going to make a better world, we'll have to greatly reduce or eliminate the meat-production industry. Compared with that, today's 50 or so exotic animals are really a drop in a very large bucket.

164 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:39:16pm

re: #163 Ming

I'm glad to be a long-time pesca-vegetarian, but I still feel terrible about the unnecessary killing of these exotic animals.

To make a political point, it seems that if we're ever going to make a better world, we'll have to greatly reduce or eliminate the meat-production industry. Compared with that, today's 50 or so exotic animals are really a drop in a very large bucket.

They couldn't be safely collected. They should never have been allowed to be kept under such conditions in the first place, but there was no way to safely collect them last night.

165 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:39:53pm

re: #162 Aceofwhat?

Mick Jagger. Damndest thing...

I missed you.

166 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:42:31pm

[Captain Obvious speaks. *cough* *cough*]:

Wingnuts like to point out that science is not done by consensus. True enough. Science is done through experimentation and observation (dumbed down; much more than that, of course). It's not a matter of how many people agree on a point.

However, what is the interface between the public (laymen, including elected politicians who make policy) and scientists? Laymen can't have direct access to scientific findings. Well, some are bright enough to understand papers, but that's an exception. The answer then is: the scientific consensus.

This consensus is not prescriptive - it doesn't decide what the science is. It is descriptive - it describes the learned opinions of the majority of researchers in the relevant fields. Can a consensus be wrong, in principle? Sure. However, there is no other equally or more accurate way to establish the science that should be used to make policy.

[/obvious rant over]

167 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:42:37pm

re: #165 wozzablog

I missed you.

Hold me...

168 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:42:56pm

Obama ends bus tour with pitch to subdued crowd

Closing out his bus tour on a low-key note, President Obama made a pitch for his jobs package at a firehouse, where a subdued crowd needed a bit of prompting to applaud his proposal to boost the economy.

Dude's on the ropes.

169 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:43:06pm

re: #167 Aceofwhat?

Hold me...

Get a room, you two.

170 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:43:22pm

re: #167 Aceofwhat?

Hold me...

Geez, ya take a month and a half off and everyone wants to dry hump your leg.
/

171 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:45:13pm
172 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:46:14pm

re: #170 Cannadian Club Akbar

Geez, ya take a month and a half off and everyone wants to dry hump your leg.
/

As long as it stays dry. I'm not big on stain removal.

173 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:46:16pm

re: #170 Cannadian Club Akbar

Geez, ya take a month and a half off and everyone wants to dry hump your leg.
/

LGF erotica.

174 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:46:30pm

I should start "paging" things.

Ohio Democratic legislator wants to extend all drug testing of welfare recipients to all takers of federal handouts...executives, bankers, stock brokers..

I'm wagering that the number of positive tests among stockbrokers and Wall Street bakers will be higher than the 2% total failed by Florida welfare recipients.

[Link: www.myfox28columbus.com...]

175 jaunte  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:46:37pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Bar patrons advised to be cautious around closing time.

176 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:46:48pm

re: #173 Sergey Romanov

LGF erotica.

Rule 34.

177 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:48:00pm

re: #176 wozzablog

Rule 34.

*shudder*

178 austin_blue  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:48:08pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Headline of the day?
Monkey with herpes still on loose after animal farm mayhem

Actually, what I read was "...and a monkey, who may have herpes."

Still, that's damn funny in a really bad result for most of the animals involved.

179 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:49:50pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Headline of the day?
Monkey with herpes still on loose after animal farm mayhem

God bless Ohio...

180 austin_blue  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:50:22pm

re: #174 wozzablog

I should start "paging" things.

Ohio Democratic legislator wants to extend all drug testing of welfare recipients to all takers of federal handouts...executives, bankers, stock brokers..

I'm wagering that the number of positive tests among stockbrokers and Wall Street bakers will be higher than the 2% total failed by Florida welfare recipients.

[Link: www.myfox28columbus.com...]

Was it Pryor who said "Cocaine is God's way of telling you that you have too damn much money!"?

181 darthstar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:51:59pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Headline of the day?
Monkey with herpes still on loose after animal farm mayhem

You know what's more dangerous than a wild monkey with herpes?


The guy who gave it to him.

182 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:52:23pm

re: #180 austin_blue

Was it Pryor who said "Cocaine is God's way of telling you that you have too damn much money!"?

Yes, yes it was.

183 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:55:54pm

Waste some time looking at this.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

184 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 4:59:11pm

G'night folks.

185 austin_blue  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:00:43pm

Huh, love that they have mowed the arch into the outfield in St. Louis.

186 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:00:59pm

re: #184 wozzablog

G'night folks.

Peace, brother. good to holla at you again.

187 darthstar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:02:07pm

Okay...time for Lawrence O'Donnell to give a non-biased report on last night's debate...or maybe I should check Olbermann?

188 blueraven  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:05:00pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Obama ends bus tour with pitch to subdued crowd

Dude's on the ropes.

oh good grief.

189 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:06:26pm

re: #186 Aceofwhat?

Peace, brother. good to holla at you again.

And you broham.

191 Big Joe  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:07:39pm

re: #190 darthstar

even the 'gotcha' questions?

192 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:10:08pm

Out for the night. Ace, don't be a stranger. See ya'll on the morning shift.:)

193 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:11:19pm

re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar

Out for the night. Ace, don't be a stranger. See ya'll on the morning shift.:)

Dude, i'm trying. Be good -

194 Lidane  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:11:24pm

re: #187 darthstar

Okay...time for Lawrence O'Donnell to give a non-biased report on last night's debate...or maybe I should check Olbermann?

The Onion. Or Colbert.

195 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:12:11pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Obama ends bus tour with pitch to subdued crowd

Dude's on the ropes.

100 people in a firehouse that holds about 100 people.

N Chesterfield real estate ads--houses run about a cool million:

[Link: www.rentals.com...]

196 Lidane  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:12:43pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

It's over a year before the election. Bit premature to suggest a winner or loser, no?

At least let the GOP primary clown circus play itself out first.

197 HAL2010  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:12:49pm

re: #190 darthstar

One more thing...Sarah Palin says the candidates should be forced to answer the questions.

Awh man, best way to end the day before bed. With a huge laugh.

Cheers!

Now, its after two at night and I have three pages to write concerning the various explanations to the conflicts in the former Yugoslavia tomorrow. This made my day.

Goodnight!

198 erik_t  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:12:50pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Obama ends bus tour with pitch to subdued crowd

Dude's on the ropes.

Wait, what? Depending on your poll, Obama's approval is on a hell of a surge.

199 Lidane  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:13:45pm

re: #190 darthstar

One more thing...Sarah Palin says the candidates should be forced to answer the questions.

Somewhere out there, irony meters are asploding.

200 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:13:47pm

re: #196 Lidane

It's over a year before the election. Bit premature to suggest a winner or loser, no?

At least let the GOP primary clown circus play itself out first.

Can't beat Cain in the polls = on the ropes. I thought it was a fairly accurate characterization.

201 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:14:21pm

re: #197 HAL2010

Awh man, best way to end the day before bed. With a huge laugh.

Cheers!

Now, its after two at night and I have three pages to write concerning the various explanations to the conflicts in the former Yugoslavia tomorrow. This made my day.

Goodnight!

Does "they're all friggin' crazy" spread out evenly over three pages?

202 Lidane  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:14:33pm

re: #200 Aceofwhat?

Can't beat Cain in the polls = on the ropes. I thought it was a fairly accurate characterization.

Eh? Since when is Obama losing to Cain in the polls?

203 erik_t  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:14:38pm

re: #200 Aceofwhat?

Can't beat Cain in the polls = on the ropes. I thought it was a fairly accurate characterization.

In polls before the last debate, Cain might as well be Generic Republican.

204 HAL2010  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:15:15pm

re: #199 Lidane

Somewhere out there, irony meters are asploding.

205 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:15:50pm

re: #200 Aceofwhat?

I've never understood how that phrase resonates with people, given the most famous example of a boxer being on the ropes wound up with that boxer kicking his opponent's ass.

206 HAL2010  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:15:56pm

re: #201 Aceofwhat?

Does "they're all friggin' crazy" spread out evenly over three pages?

Well pretty much. And I have about 10 explanations for it.

D'oh!

207 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:16:32pm

If someone would like a serious charity wager on Cain as TPGOP candidate, I'm available.

208 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:16:59pm

re: #207 Decatur Deb

If someone would like a serious charity wager on Cain as TPGOP candidate, I'm available.

I'll bet my pair of Unfortunate Pants.

209 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:18:09pm

re: #200 Aceofwhat?

Can't beat Cain in the polls = on the ropes. I thought it was a fairly accurate characterization.

As do I.

Hello, all. I'm here only briefly right now. I haven't been feeling well, so I wasn't in last night.

210 Sionainn  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:18:14pm
211 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:18:24pm

re: #207 Decatur Deb

If someone would like a serious charity wager on Cain as TPGOP candidate, I'm available.

Mitt may give him the VP slot.

212 Lidane  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:19:18pm

re: #207 Decatur Deb

If someone would like a serious charity wager on Cain as TPGOP candidate, I'm available.

I honestly don't know if I'd laugh or cry if he got nominated.

213 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:19:28pm

re: #205 Obdicut

I've never understood how that phrase resonates with people, given the most famous example of a boxer being on the ropes wound up with that boxer kicking his opponent's ass.

Quite true. I think it's because most boxers aren't M. Ali, and end up on the ropes shortly before they take a sharp hook to the chin region. I think it's regarded as a losing position for most boxers/candidates...Clinton being a notable exception.

214 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:19:31pm

re: #211 Killgore Trout

Mitt may give him the VP slot.

That would be nice. The Alabama Dems really need the boost.

215 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:19:38pm

re: #202 Lidane

Eh? Since when is Obama losing to Cain in the polls?

Rasmussen.

Hello Ace!

216 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:19:59pm

re: #205 Obdicut

I've never understood how that phrase resonates with people, given the most famous example of a boxer being on the ropes wound up with that boxer kicking his opponent's ass.

Yeah, but Ali - Foreman isn't a good example. Given how the ropes were specifically made more elastic to allow Ali to absorb Foreman's blows. That fight was stacked against Foreman.

217 bbcrackmonkey  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:20:08pm

I went to see the President of the World Bank, Robert Zoellick, speak today at the University of Ann Arbor. My fellow compatriots from Occupy Ann Arbor staged a walkout of the event to protest the man himself, who is as crooked as they come. I told him he had "a most excellent mustache" and asked him a question about wealth inequality in the US and how its continuing to get worse and worse. He squirmed around in his chair and threw a lot of jargon and buzzwords at me, said its worse in Latin America, and didn't really answer my question in any substantial way.

He also kept on proposing a flat tax during the symposium, saying that we needed to "flatten the rates and broaden the base". Flat tax systems are only supported by far right Republicans because of their extremely regressive nature.

218 Lidane  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:20:14pm

re: #215 Stanley Sea

Rasmussen.

Ah. So in other words, Obama will win in a landslide?

219 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:20:30pm

re: #202 Lidane

Eh? Since when is Obama losing to Cain in the polls?

He's not? Now that you mention it, i don't remember where I heard it. I just checked Nate Silver, but he has no head-to-head numbers at first glance. I'll retract if I've heard incorrectly.

220 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:20:50pm

re: #200 Aceofwhat?

Can't beat Cain in the polls = on the ropes. I thought it was a fairly accurate characterization.

Which polls again? Oh, you must mean Rasmussen LOL.

221 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:20:57pm

re: #215 Stanley Sea

Rasmussen.

Hello Ace!

Girlfriend!

222 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:21:07pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, but Ali - Foreman isn't a good example. Given how the ropes were specifically made more elastic to allow Ali to absorb Foreman's blows. That fight was stacked against Foreman.

Can you back up that claim?

223 windsagio  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:21:19pm

re: #215 Stanley Sea

At this point I basically assume all polls are crap, for any number of reasons.

224 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:21:44pm

re: #223 windsagio

At this point I basically assume all polls are crap, for any number of reasons.

how you doin'?

225 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:21:46pm

re: #211 Killgore Trout

Mitt may give him the VP slot.

He wouldn't be a bad choice. He's a good "ideas man" and pretty likable. I also think that in a debate he'd kick Joe Biden's ass up one side of the stage then back down the other.

226 Gus  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:21:57pm

Stupid Americans.

Americans Blame Gov't More Than Wall Street for Economy
Republicans largely blame government, Democrats split blame between the two
by Frank Newport

PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans are more than twice as likely to blame the federal government in Washington (64%) for the economic problems facing the United States as they are the financial institutions on Wall Street (30%).

Now, technically it's not all Wall Street of course. But the morons are obviously ignoring the effect of the global economic collapse not the least of which being the Eurozone crisis.

Dumb Confederates.

227 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:22:32pm

re: #190 darthstar

One more thing...Sarah Palin says the candidates should be forced to answer the questions.

Grifter be grifting. Wonder when her Fox contract is up?

228 Gus  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:22:59pm

Fuck Herman Cain and his moronic 9-9-9 gimmick.

229 windsagio  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:23:15pm

re: #224 Aceofwhat?

I haven't heard back about the biopsy, and the test has to be done, so I'm taking that as a good thing :p

230 Lidane  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:23:34pm

re: #225 Dark_Falcon

He's a good "ideas man" and pretty likable. I also think that in a debate he'd kick Joe Biden's ass up one side of the stage then back down the other.

I'd call this post untagged sarcasm, but I'm afraid you might actually be sincere.

On what planet is Herman Cain a good ideas man?

231 windsagio  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:24:00pm

re: #228 Gus 802

Best thing Bachmann ever said was the thing about '999' being '666' upside down.

Stupid as hell of course, but wonderful in its idiocy!

232 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:24:05pm

re: #213 Aceofwhat?

During a normal fight between boxers, each of them will be on the ropes at one point or another. It's actual importance in a boxing fight is that it's a tactically important moment, something that the aggressor needs to exploit and the defender needs to get out of-- unless they're a genius like Nicolino Locche, who didn't have to worry about things like 'getting punched' that the rest of us did. But the defender can use the situation to their advantage, and it's not the defining moment of the match, usually.

The common-language meaning of it is "about to be finished off", which isn't really any more true when a boxer is on the ropes than any time else. It's dangerous, but it's dangerous for the attacker too, since the defender can push off of the ropes on his punches.

It's just one of those many occasions where the public perception of something is out of whack with the technicalities.

233 windsagio  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:24:18pm

re: #229 windsagio

glad you asked no? :D

Otherwise well, working a lot to save money :p

234 erik_t  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:24:22pm

re: #225 Dark_Falcon

He wouldn't be a bad choice. He's a good "ideas man" and pretty likable. I also think that in a debate he'd kick Joe Biden's ass up one side of the stage then back down the other.

Herman Cain? Are we talking about the same Herman Cain? Have you eaten some funky pizza recently?

235 Lidane  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:24:37pm

re: #223 windsagio

At this point I basically assume all polls are crap, for any number of reasons.

It's over a year before the election. That alone makes any polls now utter crap.

236 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:26:13pm

re: #221 Aceofwhat?

Girlfriend!

Gators suck, no internet @work except peeps on iphone. Otherwise fine. Hope you are too!

237 windsagio  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:26:34pm

re: #235 Lidane

Add in the cell phone bias (which most pollsters afaik don't even pretend to try to deal with) and problems with likely voter models, and we have a wonderful predictive system!

238 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:27:25pm

re: #234 erik_t

Herman Cain? Are we talking about the same Herman Cain? Have you eaten some funky pizza recently?

No, but I have been feeling feverish.

BBL

239 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:27:36pm

re: #237 windsagio

Most pollsters do some cell phone calling, but I'm not sure how they get hold of those lists, so there's potential screwiness there.

240 Gus  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:28:05pm

re: #231 windsagio

Best thing Bachmann ever said was the thing about '999' being '666' upside down.

Stupid as hell of course, but wonderful in its idiocy!

I came up with that too before her. I'm part idiot meself. ;)

241 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:28:13pm

re: #233 windsagio

glad you asked no? :D

Otherwise well, working a lot to save money :p

Aren't we all...and at least you don't have a herpes-ridden monkey gallivanting around your neighboring county.

(i see your biopsy and raise you a VD-bearing primate)

242 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:28:58pm

re: #232 Obdicut

I love how incredibly thought-out that was for a random aside. Upding.

243 Gus  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:29:50pm

re: #239 Obdicut

Most pollsters do some cell phone calling, but I'm not sure how they get hold of those lists, so there's potential screwiness there.

Meh. I'd like to think so sometimes but when it leans to the right, well, after having traveled this summer it's not a big surprise. It's one big giant Hooterville out there in the Heartland.

244 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:30:04pm

re: #236 Stanley Sea

Gators suck, no internet @work except peeps on iphone. Otherwise fine. Hope you are too!

I changed the channel when Brantley went down. It's not fair.

245 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:32:21pm

re: #244 Aceofwhat?

I changed the channel when Brantley went down. It's not fair.

Dude, and Brantley sucked kinda.

246 windsagio  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:32:25pm
247 windsagio  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:32:48pm

re: #241 Aceofwhat?

sorry just a little stressy :p

Hows things with you, herpes ape aside?

248 Gus  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:33:34pm

Still cold in here. Might need a pair of those fingerless gloves. Ain't life grand.

249 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:34:03pm

lol

250 jaunte  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:34:35pm

A few more links on 9-9-9:

Herman Cain’s 999 plan: a misleading pitch

There have been several interesting analyses done on the “9-9-9” plan. Edward D. Kleinbard of the University of Southern California School of Law identifies several unusual quirks, including a “disguised one-time 9 percent tax on existing wealth — no doubt much to the surprise of Mr. Cain and his followers.” Kleinbard, former chief of staff of the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation, says that “contrary to casual impressions, the Plan could be expected to raise substantial amounts of revenue, but does so largely by skewing downwards the distribution of tax burdens when compared to current law.”

Bruce Bartlett, a former Reagan administration official who now calls himself an independent, also offered a critical examination this week on the New York Times Economix blog. He (as did Kleinbard) noted that the business tax allows for no deduction for wages, which he said “is likely to raise the cost of employing workers, even with abolition of the employers’ share of the payroll tax.”

251 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:36:14pm

re: #247 windsagio

sorry just a little stressy :p

Hows things with you, herpes ape aside?

Still flying from Jacksonville to Ohio each week. Downside = little time for LGF and other luxuries. Upside = i'm now enough of a big shot with regard to my airline status that I'm starting to get regular upgrades to first class when there's room. Glenlivet, please...

252 makeitstop  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:36:17pm

No, seriously.

Cain can't make a public announcement without qualifying it in some way within hours of saying it. That indicates that his ideas aren't that great to start with.

He couldn't beat fricken Rick Perry in a debate, and he's gonna whup Obama?

Ohhh-kay, then...

253 sattv4u2  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:36:36pm

re: #244 Aceofwhat?

hey!

ltns

254 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:37:41pm

re: #251 Aceofwhat?

Footroom! The travel sucks, so enjoy the perks! Bigshot!

255 sattv4u2  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:38:07pm

re: #251 Aceofwhat?

Still flying from Jacksonville to Ohio each week. Downside = little time for LGF and other luxuries. Upside = i'm now enough of a big shot with regard to my airline status that I'm starting to get regular upgrades to first class when there's room. Glenlivet, please...

re: #253 sattv4u2

hey!

ltns

well,,,that 'splains it !!

256 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:39:11pm

re: #251 Aceofwhat?

Still flying from Jacksonville to Ohio each week. Downside = little time for LGF and other luxuries. Upside = i'm now enough of a big shot with regard to my airline status that I'm starting to get regular upgrades to first class when there's room. Glenlivet, please...

You do realize that if the same DHS security grabs your crotch on 3 occasions, that's a common-law marriage in Florida.

257 Gus  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:40:13pm

re: #256 Decatur Deb

You do realize that if the same DHS security grabs your crotch on 3 occasions, that's a common-law marriage in Florida.

And he doesn't even have to be your first cousin.

//

258 Lidane  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:40:23pm

re: #252 makeitstop

No, seriously.

Cain can't make a public announcement without qualifying it in some way within hours of saying it. That indicates that his ideas aren't that great to start with.

He couldn't beat fricken Rick Perry in a debate, and he's gonna whup Obama?

Ohhh-kay, then...

Kill the illegal Mexicans by building an electrified fence!

"No, seriously. I was kidding about that. Can't you MSM assholes take a joke?"

I wasn't kidding! Electric fences and land mines for everybody!

/Cain

259 CuriousLurker  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:41:50pm

re: #251 Aceofwhat?

Hey, Ace! How've you been, stranger? I can't stay tonight, but I saw your comments flying by in the Spy and wanted to at least say "hi". ;o)

260 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:42:04pm

re: #18 Bubblehead II

The former would look ridiculous on me and somewhere around here I think I actually have a copy of that piece of shit as well as another piece called Mein Kampf. Both are a disgusting read.

Why do I still have them? Once I obtain a book, no matter how much it sucks, I can't throw it away. Why did I obtain them in the first place? Well, you can't refute the writings if you haven't read them as well as a morbid curiosity for shunned books.

My Dad's got a copy of the Turner Diaries around somewhere.

Some kids in my class sourced a library copy of Mein Kampf when we read The Book Thief--carefully assuring the librarian that they were reading it only for the historical interest value. I doubt they would have been mistaken for skinheads.

261 sattv4u2  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:43:45pm

re: #260 SanFranciscoZionist

My Dad's got a copy of the Turner Diaries around somewhere

We do lots of work for TURNER Broadcasting

I'll bet someone there has kept a diary!!

OH NOES!!!!!!!!! I'M ONE OF THEM !!!

262 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:43:50pm

re: #256 Decatur Deb

You do realize that if the same DHS security grabs your crotch on 3 occasions, that's a common-law marriage in Florida.

I wish the person who operates the body-scan thingy didn't need to be sequestered. It'd be a lot more fun if i could give them a wink and a nod while they were scanning. You know, that "yeah, go ahead and look, baby" thing (the one that Jerseyites seem to find appropriate for most of daily life)...

263 Gus  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:44:07pm

Off to get some Lotto tickets and stuff. Warm up in my car perhaps. BIAB

264 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:44:45pm

re: #259 CuriousLurker

Hey, Ace! How've you been, stranger? I can't stay tonight, but I saw your comments flying by in the Spy and wanted to at least say "hi". ;o)

Miss you!

265 CuriousLurker  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:46:01pm

re: #264 Aceofwhat?

Miss you!

You too! {{Ace}}

Take care of yourself. Hope to see you back again soon. :)

267 Ojoe  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:49:23pm

re: #262 Aceofwhat?

One of my old girl friends used to say "Don't look Joe" with the sweetest lilt in her voice.

268 Ojoe  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:53:25pm

re: #190 darthstar

IMHO she's the most real GOP person & that's why she has been sort of excluded from the twerp's little private club.

Which they expect us to buy into ?!?

Yes I know I said BBL, now I will try that really.

269 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:56:29pm

re: #268 Ojoe

IMHO she's the most real GOP person & that's why she has been sort of excluded from the twerp's little private club.

Which they expect us to buy into ?!?

Yes I know I said BBL, now I will try that really.

Absence makes the heart grow fonder? Sister Sarah = Real GOP?

270 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:57:26pm

re: #269 Stanley Sea

Absence makes the heart grow fonder? Sister Sarah = Real GOP?

Juuuuust couldn't resist, could you;)

271 erik_t  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 5:57:55pm

re: #268 Ojoe

IMHO she's the most real GOP person & that's why she has been sort of excluded from the twerp's little private club.

Which they expect us to buy into ?!?

Yes I know I said BBL, now I will try that really.

'Most real'? I am trying to decide if that's a complement or a damning indictment. ESPN, meanwhile, is wondering who is the most 'Now'.

272 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:03:01pm

re: #57 ProLifeLiberal

You would have a point, but the US has one of the oldest surviving governments on earth right now. The Ottomans were in the same boat at the time. The best way to describe this is that things move quicker in some ways now than the days of the Ottoman Empire.

Alot of old governments were ended in revolutionary waves. The first being in the 1780's-1800's Time Frame. The Second was in the 1848-1870 era, and the third one after World War I.

By my memory, the US Government is the 3rd Oldest Functioning without interruption (Only the UK and Swedish Governments are older).

Which is something to bear in mind when people cluck about what a young nation we are.

273 palomino  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:07:11pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Obama ends bus tour with pitch to subdued crowd

Dude's on the ropes.

But what put him there? What could he realistically have done over the past 3 years to make things any different? He picked a great time to run for president and a terrible time to actually be president.

274 Renaissance_Man  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:08:05pm

re: #225 Dark_Falcon

He wouldn't be a bad choice. He's a good "ideas man" and pretty likable. I also think that in a debate he'd kick Joe Biden's ass up one side of the stage then back down the other.

Typically, people demonstrate at least one 'good idea' before being labeled a 'good ideas' man. Can you name a good idea of his?

Being a Republican doesn't count.

275 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:08:07pm

re: #272 SanFranciscoZionist

Which is something to bear in mind when people cluck about what a young nation we are.

You would really feel that if you collected stamps in the '50s. Sort of miss Upper Volta (Burkina Faso).

276 palomino  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:08:42pm

re: #200 Aceofwhat?

Can't beat Cain in the polls = on the ropes. I thought it was a fairly accurate characterization.

But he's beating everybody else in the current polls and Cain certainly won't be the gop nominee. So where's the relevance?

277 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:09:56pm

re: #159 EmmmieG

Carla Bruni had a baby girl.

Murphy's law says it will look like Dad.

He's not that bad.

278 palomino  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:10:59pm

re: #211 Killgore Trout

Mitt may give him the VP slot.

You think Mitt wants to spend his time cleaning up after a loose cannon like Cain? Having to apologize for his latest controversial over-the-top tirade? Cain's a sideshow, like Trump and Bachmann; he won't be around next Nov. in any important capacity.

279 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:12:16pm

Cain's 999 tax calculator is blatantly dishonest. He assumes that there is a 22% invisible tax built into the cost of goods currently as a result of the current 35% corporate tax, and therefore assumes that this hidden price increase will be reduced to 6% because 35-22 is roughly close to 9/6.

That's bad enough, but here's where it gets even more dishonest, with bad math. In the calculator he takes the 22% from the current price of the good but tacks on the 6% from the new reduced price. So if you input a price of $10 he reduces it by $2.20 (22%) to get $7.80 for the true cost of the good. Except there's a problem, if the true cost of the good is increased by a 22% hidden tax as he claims the equation he should use is $10/1.22 = $8.20. The reason for this is because under the plan he assumes that this reduced "true" cost of the good will be raised by 6% to reflect the new change in corporate tax rate. If 35 is to 22 as 9 is to 6 as he claims, then both the 22% and the 6% need to be applied to the same number, the purported true, original cost of the good. Instead Cain deceptively subtracts the 22% from the current price. In other words his equations actually assume the markup is 28.2%

So where his calculator assumes, with zero state tax, that the final cost of that now $10 good is $9.01 under his plan, it would actually be $9.47 if his math was honest, and we're talking here about someone who was a math major. This of course all goes along with his wild ass assumption that retailers are going to magically reduce the price of consumer goods out of the goodness of their hearts. When has that ever happened?

[Link: www.999calculator.net...]

280 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:12:17pm

re: #270 Aceofwhat?

Juuust couldn't resist, could you;)

NOPE

281 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:13:15pm

re: #252 makeitstop

No, seriously.

Cain can't make a public announcement without qualifying it in some way within hours of saying it. That indicates that his ideas aren't that great to start with.

He couldn't beat fricken Rick Perry in a debate, and he's gonna whup Obama?

Ohhh-kay, then...

When you look up gravitas in the dictionary, Cain's picture is under the antonyms.

Then again, that's true for most of the slate, if not all. Oddly, Ron Paul has more of it than most of them. He's batshit crazy, but he does have a smidge of gravitas.

282 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:16:23pm

Gotta pack for tomorrow. Good to see you all-

283 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:16:58pm

re: #275 Decatur Deb

You would really feel that if you collected stamps in the '50s. Sort of miss Upper Volta (Burkina Faso).

I had two kids in my first classroom as a teacher who came from countries that didn't exist on the classroom map. (Bosnia and Eritrea).

We had to do some work with a Sharpie.

284 prairiefire  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:17:41pm

re: #282 Aceofwhat?

Gotta pack for tomorrow. Good to see you all-

Have a good weekend, Ace.

285 Achilles Tang  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:18:30pm

re: #279 goddamnedfrank

Are you kidding me; that Cain did anything remotely like these calculations?

286 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:24:55pm

re: #283 SanFranciscoZionist

I had two kids in my first classroom as a teacher who came from countries that didn't exist on the classroom map. (Bosnia and Eritrea).

We had to do some work with a Sharpie.

Heh. Number two son used to travel to the short-lived FRY. It's the Prince of countries.

[Link: www.acronymfinder.com...]

287 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:26:58pm

re: #285 Naso Tang

Are you kidding me; that Cain did anything remotely like these calculations?

The page claims not to be affiliated, so I stand corrected. Yet Cain is going around saying that prices will go down under his plan because of the so-called invisible taxes. So you're right in this case his followers are being dishonest, but it's hard to argue that they're not learning it from him.

288 engineer cat  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:29:18pm

keep in mind that howard dean was leading in all the polls last time until the actual caucuses and primaries got underway

i bet rombly rolls over them oncet the voting starts

289 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:37:28pm

re: #273 palomino

But what put him there? What could he realistically have done over the past 3 years to make things any different? He picked a great time to run for president and a terrible time to actually be president.

Obama couldn't possibly compete with the rousing crowds the GOP candidates are attracting. Romney's campaign rallies will be off the hook don'tcha know?

///

Here are some photos from the event which the LA Times article didn't inlcude.

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

290 palomino  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:58:56pm

re: #289 moderatelyradicalliberal

Obama couldn't possibly compete with the rousing crowds the GOP candidates are attracting. Romney's campaign rallies will be off the hook don'tcha know?

///

Here are some photos from the event which the LA Times article didn't inlcude.

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

Maybe Romney will have to pick a loon like Cain, in order to fire up the gop base (which has never been that into Romney, and after 4 years of trying, probably never will be.) Then again, we all remember how well that strategy worked for McCain-Palin in 08. So Romney might stick with a more traditional pol.

Every pundit and commentator thinks he's Nostradamus with his/her "Obama is on the ropes" prediction. But the simple fact is that Presidents rarely win re-election when the economy sucks, so making a forecast of generic Republican in 2012 is not especially perceptive or daring. This all makes Republicans excited and hard, but it's not the result of anything compelling they've actually done themselves. It's the result of the worst global depression in 80 years, one that no one really has any answers for. (I guess the gop can take a little credit for rat fucking Obama every chance they got, but that's neither a sustainable governing philosophy nor a solution to our economic problems.)

291 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Oct 19, 2011 7:09:31pm

re: #290 palomino

Excellently said.


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