Republicans Obsessing Over Uteruses Again in Iowa

“Jobs, jobs, jobs” has become “uteri, uteri, uteri”
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In Des Moines at a forum organized by the extreme right wing Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition, the Republican candidates are enthusiastically trying to portray themselves as the most misogynistic, repressive assholes in America. Their strategy to “rebuild America” starts with controlling women’s uteruses: Abortion Takes Center Stage at Iowa Forum for Republicans.

DES MOINES — Gov. Rick Perry of Texas sought to win over social conservative voters in Iowa on Saturday night as he drew a distinction between his opposition to abortion with the views of his leading Republican rivals and declared, “Being pro-life is not a matter of campaign convenience; it is a core conviction.”

At a forum for Republican presidential hopefuls, Mr. Perry urged party activists to study the abortion positions of his opponents. He offered veiled criticism of Herman Cain, who told an interviewer last week that he was against abortion, but that the decision to have the procedure was a personal one.

“It is a liberal canard to say I am personally pro-life, but government should stay out of that decision,” Mr. Perry said, drawing enthusiastic applause from a crowd of social conservative voters. “If that is your view, you are not pro-life, you are pro-having your cake and eating it too.”

Michele “Crazy Eyes” Bachmann makes the reactionary religious right agenda very clear:

“This is the year when social conservatives can have it all,” Mrs. Bachmann said. “This is our year where we don’t compromise. This is our year when we don’t settle.”

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108 comments
1 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:11:54am

Because, I guess, if we create more workers, the jobs will come?

2 Gus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:14:28am

More of that small government Republicanism.

3 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:16:01am

Bachmann's the only one who's being honest about the Right's view of this election, namely that it's not about the economy or jobs, it's about finally cementing the power needed in D.C. to ram through decades of backlogged lunacy. As far as they're concerned, they feel that just putting a Republican in the White House will make the "free market" fix itself, so all their "plans" are so much tax-cutting/deregulating boilerplate. The real battleground in these primaries is over who has the most backward, knuckle-dragging view of social policy.

4 HappyWarrior  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:17:00am

Jobs baby!

5 Gus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:18:08am

re: #3 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Bachmann's the only one who's being honest about the Right's view of this election, namely that it's not about the economy or jobs, it's about finally cementing the power needed in D.C. to ram through decades of backlogged lunacy. As far as they're concerned, they feel that just putting a Republican in the White House will make the "free market" fix itself, so all their "plans" are so much tax-cutting/deregulating boilerplate. The real battleground in these primaries is over who has the most backward, knuckle-dragging view of social policy.

Right wing social engineering. Irony. With the KJV and Conservapedia as their guide book. I guess you can say that we are now experiencing the Conservapedia Era of Republicanism. Also note the return of religious right figures and organizations.

6 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:18:39am

“This is our year where we don’t compromise." I have one name for Ms Bachmann and the rest of those folks: Henry Clay. Read about him and hopefully you learn something.

7 bratwurst  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:20:10am
“This is the year when social conservatives can have it all,” Mrs. Bachmann said. “This is our year where we don’t compromise. This is our year when we don’t settle.”

Translation:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't let it be Romeny!

8 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:20:34am

re: #6 PhillyPretzel

“This is our year where we don’t compromise." I have one name for Ms Bachmann and the rest of those folks: Henry Clay. Read about him and hopefully you learn something.

Democracy --Compromise is the name of the game.

9 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:21:17am

re: #6 PhillyPretzel

“This is our year where we don’t compromise." I have one name for Ms Bachmann and the rest of those folks: Henry Clay. Read about him and hopefully you learn something.

These people would be thrilled if we became the Christian version of Saudi.

10 Gus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:21:43am

In an ironic twist. Ted Haggard never needed to have an abortion. None of his ilk ever will.

11 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:22:09am
“This is the year when social conservatives can have it all,” Mrs. Bachmann said.

Yeah. Psychoses and delusions.

12 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:23:17am

re: #11 makeitstop

Yeah. Psychoses and delusions.

Be careful what you ask for!!!

13 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:23:33am

re: #9 ggt

These people would be thrilled if we became the Christian version of Saudi.

It's like I've said before, these folks don't have a problem with a theocracy, they just disagree with Al-Q over which religion should be calling the shots.

14 Gus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:24:25am

re: #9 ggt

These people would be thrilled if we became the Christian version of Saudi.

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15 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:24:41am
Mr. Cain, who has become a leading Republican presidential contender in several national and state polls, stirred controversy last week when he told an interviewer on CNN that he opposed abortion but did not believe that it was his role to impose his views on others. His comments drew a sharp rebuke from several of his rivals.

It's pretty clear that the Tea Party legacy is not about government spending. It's about the return of dominionist conservatism. They are more focused on 'marriage,' abortion, and the church.

16 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:25:56am

re: #15 BigPapa

Mr. Cain, who has become a leading Republican presidential contender in several national and state polls, stirred controversy last week when he told an interviewer on CNN that he opposed abortion but did not believe that it was his role to impose his views on others. His comments drew a sharp rebuke from several of his rivals.

It's pretty clear that the Tea Party legacy is not about government spending. It's about the return of dominionist conservatism. They are more focused on 'marriage,' abortion, and the church.

Please, please, PLEASE find a way to convince the real fiscal conservatives of that. The Tea Party and FOX news is doing a great job of telling them it's all about MARXISM.

17 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:26:08am

re: #12 ggt

Be careful what you ask for!!!

Believe me, there's no way I'm asking for that.

What I would ask for is a full battery of independent psychological testing for anyone who decides they're running for president. The job is just too damned important to give borderline mental patients like Bachmann a shot at it.

18 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:29:17am

re: #17 makeitstop

Believe me, there's no way I'm asking for that.

What I would ask for is a full battery of independent psychological testing for anyone who decides they're running for president. The job is just too damned important to give borderline mental patients like Bachmann a shot at it.

I mean to direct statement to the Delusional. They have no idea of the consequences . . . .

19 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:30:15am

re: #15 BigPapa

It's pretty clear that the Tea Party legacy is not about government spending. It's about the return of dominionist conservatism. They are more focused on 'marriage,' abortion, and the church.

Herman Cain is simply lying about not wanting to impose this Dark Ages crap on other people. He came out today and said he supported a constitutional amendment to ban all abortions in all cases.

The New York Times, like most of the media, insist on repeating his bullshit obfuscations as if they were real.

20 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:31:11am

Lizard Internet Savants:

Where can I find a list of House Legislation introduced by Party by Year?

21 kirkspencer  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:33:44am

re: #20 ggt

Lizard Internet Savants:

Where can I find a list of House Legislation introduced by Party by Year?

Through the library of Congress's Thomas system.

Some assembly required.

22 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:35:30am

re: #21 kirkspencer

Through the library of Congress's Thomas system.

Some assembly required.

I hate assembies. Sitting on those hard bleachers listening to the principal . . .

:0

23 Atlas Fails  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:36:12am

re: #19 Charles

Herman Cain is simply lying about not wanting to impose this Dark Ages crap on other people. He came out today and said he supported a constitutional amendment to ban all abortions in all cases.

The New York Times, like most of the media, insist on repeating his bullshit obfuscations as if they were real.

Too little, too late. He's damaged goods to the socons now.

24 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:37:46am

re: #19 Charles

Herman Cain is simply lying about not wanting to impose this Dark Ages crap on other people. He came out today and said he supported a constitutional amendment to ban all abortions in all cases.

The New York Times, like most of the media, insist on repeating his bullshit obfuscations as if they were real.

He's winging it. Just like his tax plan - every time someone pointed out another problem with it, he either denied it was a problem ('used food') or just turned the problem into something different on the fly.

He's the worst type of candidate - willing to say anything to anyone to get out of the hot spot of the moment. After a while the waters get so muddied that none of his public statements are trust-worthy.

25 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:38:23am

It takes a lot of work to name a post office.

26 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:38:26am

re: #19 Charles

Yeah I saw this:

Retired business executive Herman Cain told an audience of social conservatives tonight that he believes life begins at conception – “no exceptions” – and said abortion should be outlawed.

“I believe abortion should be clearly stated and illegal across this country,” Cain told the Faith and Freedom Coalition on Saturday.

So why isn't Cain being called out on his Flip Floppianism? Either the NYT is afraid of being too hard on him or it's ownership is applying some editorial influence.

27 Gus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:38:29am

In Des Moines at a forum organized by the extreme right wing Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition...

Freedom?

28 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:39:28am

She is shooting off her mouth again. My page on Bachmann's latest. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

29 SpaceJesus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:40:39am

re: #26 BigPapa


what the hell is wrong with these savages

30 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:43:18am

The audience at this event looks exactly like you'd expect:

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31 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:44:25am

re: #30 Charles

The audience at this event looks exactly like you'd expect:

Image: dmrdc5-61y48pyk8dx8q2ze60q_original.jpg

Image: dmrdc5-61y2h5zvv6ailubc60q_original.jpg

looks like a wedding reception I went to once in Indiana.

32 Gus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:44:30am

Let's put her up on the screen.

Here’s the agenda for Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition banquet

...

8:35 – 8:45 Introduction of and Remarks by Rick Santorum

8:45 – 8:57 Questions and Answers by Rick Santorum

8:57 – 9:00 Introduction of and Closing Prayer by Mike Demastus

Website...

Masterpastor's Blog

Mike Demastus
Des Moines, Iowa, United States

Hey. I preach at the Fort Des Moines Church of Christ. I have been here for a while and wanted a place on the net to share some of my thoughts about life, leadership and other stuff! Thanks for visiting!

Last blog post...

A spade is still a spade
Monday, October 10, 2011

...

Keep in mind, even though we currently have two Mormons running for president (Romney and Huntsman), it is not unloving to attack Mormonism. It would be unloving, however, to attack a Mormon. The truth is that Mormonism is indeed a cult. That is no more a poisonous thing to say than saying that Planned Parenthood kills babies. Truth is truth and a spade is still a spade.

Posted by Mike Demastus at 1:33 PM 0 comments
Labels: cults, Joseph Smith, Mormonism

Hope you both feel comfortable there Mr. Romney and Huntsman.

33 Four More Tears  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:46:11am

re: #30 Charles

The audience at this event looks exactly like you'd expect:

Image: dmrdc5-61y48pyk8dx8q2ze60q_original.jpg

Image: dmrdc5-61y2h5zvv6ailubc60q_original.jpg

I've got five bucks for whoever can spot a black face in those pictures.

34 Gus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:46:29am

Closing prayer to be made by Mike Demastus who thinks Mormonism is a cult.

Film @ 11.

35 Gus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:46:59am

re: #30 Charles

The audience at this event looks exactly like you'd expect:

Image: dmrdc5-61y48pyk8dx8q2ze60q_original.jpg

Image: dmrdc5-61y2h5zvv6ailubc60q_original.jpg

Looks like your typical cult gathering.

//

36 freetoken  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:48:19am

re: #30 Charles

Lots of grey hair.

Oh, and a few trophy wives thrown in.

37 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:48:26am

re: #33 JasonA

I've got five bucks for whoever can spot a black face in those pictures.

I'm pretty hard pressed to find anyone under 50 - besides the blonde in the front.

38 freetoken  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:50:50am

re: #37 makeitstop

I'm pretty hard pressed to find anyone under 50 - besides the blonde in the front.

Other than the news-babe and the AP/Des Moines Register photographer.

39 allegro  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:51:47am

re: #30 Charles

Image: dmrdc5-61y2h5zvv6ailubc60q_original.jpg

The goober at the bottom of this one just came for the pudding.

40 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:52:31am

re: #32 Gus 802

But wait, there's more!

Can a Christian vote for a woman for President?

The same can be true in government. I believe the best circumstance, the most preferred, would be to have a godly man leading us in the civil arena. But when there is not one to be found, does this mean we should simply vote for an ungodly man over a godly woman?

No. I believe that Scripture supports and shows (from Deborah all the way to Phoebe) that where godly male leadership falters, God will use godly women to continue advancing His agenda.

What he's saying is that it's OK to vote for Bachmann if there's no better male choice.

41 Four More Tears  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:52:39am

re: #39 allegro

The goober at the bottom of this one just came for the pudding.

Wait, there was free pudding? Damn.

42 Atlas Fails  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:52:57am

re: #39 allegro

The goober at the bottom of this one just came for the pudding.

Little does he know that he just swallowed a spoonful of Santorum!

43 freetoken  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:53:42am

Is that an iPad in Santorum's hand, or some other brand of tablet?

44 Gus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:54:32am

re: #40 BigPapa

But wait, there's more!

Can a Christian vote for a woman for President?

What he's saying is that it's OK to vote for Bachmann if there's no better male choice.

Looks like a creep.

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

45 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:54:35am

Looking at the pre-election polling in Tunisia, I am encouraged.

The Islamist Nahda Party is leading....with 25%. The next largest parties are Secular Leftist in nature, and accrue 30% combined (16% for one, 14% for the other). The only other party in that poll to get over 5% was a another Secular Left Party.

46 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:54:45am

re: #40 BigPapa

But wait, there's more!

Can a Christian vote for a woman for President?

What he's saying is that it's OK to vote for Bachmann if there's no better male choice.

They have a very narrow of the definition of "Christian".

Yeah, G-d made all these people and invited them to sit at his table. A table that is the size of a school lunch table?

I don't get the literal interpretation of things. I'm just to prone to metaphysical thought processes, I guess.

47 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:56:29am

re: #41 JasonA

Wait, there was free pudding? Damn.

All for you!

48 Four More Tears  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:58:16am

re: #43 freetoken

Is that an iPad in Santorum's hand, or some other brand of tablet?

I think it might be a Xoom based on this pic.

[Link: instagr.am...]

49 freetoken  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:58:54am

In not a totally off topic direction:


Louisiana Gov. Jindal wins re-election easily

Republican Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal has easily coasted to a second term, winning in a landslide election after failing to attract any well-known or deep-pocketed opposition.

The 40-year-old son of immigrants from India overwhelmed nine competitors in the open primary Saturday. In Louisiana, a candidate wins the race outright if he or she receives more than 50 percent of the vote.

Jindal piled up $15 million in campaign cash from around the nation and attracted no Democratic challengers with statewide name recognition or fundraising heft. He's had consistently high approval ratings since taking office in 2008.

The first Indian-American governor in the United States, Jindal is considered by some a possible presidential contender in the future. He recently published a book and regularly appears on national news shows.

Would I be off base to say that the democratic process has run off track in Louisiana?

50 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:59:59am

re: #44 Gus 802

Looks like a creep dominionist who's coming out of the vestibule.

There. FIFY.

51 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 10:59:59am

re: #49 freetoken

Yes. I think that is fair to say.

53 allegro  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:02:14am

re: #47 ggt

All for you!

That actually sounds great. I've saved it in my recipes folder. Thanks!

54 Lidane  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:02:44am

re: #13 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It's like I've said before, these folks don't have a problem with a theocracy, they just disagree with Al-Q over which religion should be calling the shots.

Exactly.

55 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:03:34am

re: #49 freetoken

In not a totally off topic direction:

Louisiana Gov. Jindal wins re-election easily

Would I be off base to say that the democratic process has run off track in Louisiana?

You didn't realize that when Ray Nagin was re-elected?

Actually, I think it goes a bit further back than that, but my recall of Louisianna political history is a bit fuzzy.

:0

56 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:03:43am

re: #49 freetoken

In not a totally off topic direction:

Louisiana Gov. Jindal wins re-election easily

Would I be off base to say that the democratic process has run off track in Louisiana?

You would hardly be the first to notice that. Ever hear of Huey Long?

57 Lidane  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:04:20am

re: #30 Charles

The audience at this event looks exactly like you'd expect:

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Image: dmrdc5-61y2h5zvv6ailubc60q_original.jpg

That's mighty white of them. Wow.

58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:05:25am

re: #49 freetoken

Why? He's a popular Governor. If no one wants to run against him; he should have to quit? Folks in LA are obviously happy with him.

59 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:06:02am

re: #52 BigPapa

Sorry for the inconvenience. We are trying to change the world.

photoshop or real

I can't tell

60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:06:12am

re: #57 Lidane

White folks aren't all bad.

62 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:06:31am

re: #35 Gus 802

Looks like your typical cult gathering.

//

In many ways it is...

63 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:06:59am

re: #45 ProLifeLiberal

It gets somewhat funny when you look at the ideology of the three parties.

All are secular. One has Social Liberalism as its ideology. The other two are Social Democratic Parties.

Three parties are competing for a very small area of ideological real estate. I forsee party merging in Tunisia in the future.

64 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:07:11am

re: #58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why? He's a popular Governor. If no one wants to run against him; he should have to quit? Folks in LA are obviously happy with him.

He wants to be POTUS some day.

65 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:08:57am

re: #53 allegro

That actually sounds great. I've saved it in my recipes folder. Thanks!

When you make it, will you give me some?

66 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:09:01am

Hoo boy. From the geniuses over at Fox...

How to encourage job growth

67 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:09:43am

re: #66 makeitstop

Hoo boy. From the geniuses over at Fox...

How to encourage job growth

Make more white babies?

68 allegro  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:10:07am

re: #65 ggt

When you make it, will you give me some?

Pick-up or delivery?

69 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:10:38am

re: #68 allegro

Pick-up or delivery?

Where are you again?

70 Lidane  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:11:15am

re: #49 freetoken

Would I be off base to say that the democratic process has run off track in Louisiana?

Two words: Edwin Edwards.

Two more words: Huey Long

71 Gus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:11:19am

re: #66 makeitstop

Hoo boy. From the geniuses over at Fox...

How to encourage job growth

Damn. Look at that dog whistle right there!

72 allegro  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:11:22am

re: #66 makeitstop

Hoo boy. From the geniuses over at Fox...

How to encourage job growth

They could have shortened that list to two words: Legalize slavery.

73 allegro  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:11:37am

re: #69 ggt

Where are you again?

Houston

74 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:12:05am

re: #73 allegro

Houston

yeah, I'm gonna need delivery.

Thanks!

75 Gus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:12:18am

Yeah. Because workplace anti-discrimination laws is what's been hindering job growth.

WTF?

76 Lidane  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:12:53am

re: #60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

White folks aren't all bad.

Oh, I know. According to the census, I am one, since being Latina is an ethnicity, not a race. All the makeup in my makeup bag is for light skin. ;)

77 freetoken  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:13:15am

re: #70 Lidane

Yeah, as I was writing that I realized that the democratic process in LA has a long history of not working as intended.

78 allegro  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:13:41am

re: #75 Gus 802

Yeah. Because workplace anti-discrimination laws is what's been hindering job growth.

WTF?

Yeah get them bitches, queers, and brown folk outa the way so white men can make a living!

79 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:14:03am

re: #75 Gus 802

Yeah. Because workplace anti-discrimination laws is what's been hindering job growth.

WTF?

They left out repealing child labor laws and abolishing collective bargaining.

Saving that for Phase 2, I guess.
/

80 Gus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:14:23am

I thought Lee Atwater passed away? Apparently his legacy (even though he recanted on his death bed) lives on at Fox News.

81 allegro  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:15:17am

re: #79 makeitstop

They left out repealing child labor laws and abolishing collective bargaining.

Saving that for Phase 2, I guess.
/

I think that's in there under "repeal laws mandating employee terms."

82 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:16:08am

re: #81 allegro

I think that's in there under "repeal laws mandating employee terms."

Ah. Right you are.

83 Lidane  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:19:31am

re: #80 Gus 802

I thought Lee Atwater passed away? Apparently his legacy (even though he recanted on his death bed) lives on at Fox News.

That's not a surprise. Roger Ailes and Lee Atwater worked together for years.

85 dragonfire1981  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:20:37am

re: #49 freetoken

In not a totally off topic direction:

Louisiana Gov. Jindal wins re-election easily

Would I be off base to say that the democratic process has run off track in Louisiana?

Not just Louisiana, the South period. Here in MS Phil Bryant will probably cruise to victory on Nov. 2. He's way better financed than his Democratic counterpart (Johnny Dupree).

And oh yeah, I'm reasonably confident that personhood amendment will win a solid majority of votes as well.

I'm also sure it would probably do the same in Alabama, Georgia, Texas and Alabama.

Like I said, the South.

86 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:20:58am

Sorry to be fixated on Tunisia, but after thinking about it, a plausible political future in Tunisia could be a Three Party System (ala Canada or UK), with the Moderate Islamist Nahda Party, the likely fusion of the two Social Democratic Parties (Democratic Forum for Labour and Liberties and the Congress for the Republic), and the Progressive Democratic Party, which is the Social Liberal Party (Which is to say a party similar to mainline Democrats)

87 freetoken  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:21:24am

re: #85 dragonfire1981

It's not just that the LA Democratic party didn't have its act together, but the whole election process in LA is screwy.

88 Gus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:22:28am

re: #84 Gus 802

Here's the asshole.

What Obama Should Really Do To Spur Job Growth
Peter Schiff

Anti-Govt. Nutcase Peter Schiff Thinks Cutting $1.5T This Year Will Solve Economic Problems

[Video]

I think Freetoken warned me about this ass before.

Peter David Schiff (pronounced /ˈʃɪf/; born March 23, 1963) is an American businessman, author and financial commentator. Schiff is CEO and chief global strategist of Euro Pacific Capital Inc., a broker-dealer based in Westport, Connecticut and CEO of Euro Pacific Precious Metals, LLC, a gold and silver dealer based in New York City.

Schiff frequently appears as a guest on CNBC, Fox Business Channel, and Bloomberg Television and is often quoted in major financial publications and is a frequent guest on internet radio as well as the host of the former podcast Wall Street Unspun,[18] which is now broadcast on terrestrial radio and known as The Peter Schiff Show. In 2010 Schiff ran as a candidate in the Republican primary for the United States Senate seat from Connecticut.

Schiff is known for his bearish views on the dollar and dollar denominated assets, while bullish on investment in tangible assets as well as foreign stocks and currencies.

89 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:22:38am
“This is the year when social conservatives can have it all,” Mrs. Bachmann said. “This is our year where we don’t compromise. This is our year when we don’t settle.”

This is the year we can scare all the voters away with the exception of the blindly faithful party voters and the fanatically religious...

90 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:23:26am

On topic:

There are certain categories of people I simply do not understand. I can't understand them no matter how hard I try. I am not trying to be snarky in this post actually. I am genuinely befuddled.

To wit:

Woman Republicans. Do these women really think that the core of the white male power structure is going to help them as they push for reducing the ability of working mothers to have maternity benefits, maternity leave, reduced or eliminated access to birth control, and would rather see women die than have a medically necessary abortion? How can mothers like to see education destroyed in this nation? How can mothers come out against the first lady telling kids to eat more vegetables?

I don't get it.

Black Republicans. How can any black person who isn't utterly self hating, or at least full of contempt for other black people, be part of a party that paints black people as the enemies of America, a seething pool of communists, anarchists, Muslim extremists and scary new black panthers? How can any black person who isn't utterly self hating, or at least full of contempt for other black people, deny the terrible history of racism and slavery in this nation to the extent that they pretend that black people are playing on a level playing field, and then pretend it is all the fault of the black community that they do not have economic opportunity or are part of a system that requires great fortune or deeply uncommon human ability to overcome?

Gay Republicans Yeah... they disapprove of their own lifestyle? Sorry. Those ones I guess I do understand, they are simply stupid and have deluded themselves into thinking that they are somehow immune to what their party wants for them.

Orthodox Jewish Republicans Newsflash you pious hypocrites, Torah says you need to be kind to the poor. It is one of the few commandments that even explains why there will always be poor and what our duty is... And while we are at it, do you really think that people who want us in our own homeland, so that we can bring about their demented apocalypse and then convert or burn in hell are our friends? In what universe? I try to understand these ones, but they are so far from Torah and so hypocritical and stupid, that my Jewish pride is hurt by thinking about them too much.

Leftists who Hate Israel Yeah great, bash the one non- theocracy or brutal dictatorship or brutal military junta in the region. Bash the one government that is generally favourable to socialist ideas, gives rights to women and asylum to gay people (as in gay Arabs who would be murdered in their own nations) is pro education, strongly environmentalist and gives equal protection under the law to all of its citizens.

For all of these groups... I can only wonder, do they just not read? What makes them so utterly delusional and willing to act against their own beliefs and best interests?

91 windsagio  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:23:45am

re: #84 Gus 802

At what point do we finally just admit that tax cut/trickledown ecomonics don't work, and in fact never worked?

92 freetoken  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:24:23am

re: #88 Gus 802

Yes, Schiff is part of the extreme Paulian wing of American politics.

93 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:24:55am

re: #86 ProLifeLiberal

However, looking at available information, it looks like Egypt will go the way of France (circa 1790's and 1848) and have a failed revolution.

SCAF will not allow any foreign observers. Also, they are helping the Salafists and the Muslim Brotherhood. The Secularist Parties are polling well, but I guarantee vote rigging.

94 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:25:12am

It's funny that the main folks who opine abortion are the same ones who seem the most concerned about the browning of the nation.

When I was a kid, and teen pregnancy in the black and Hispanic populations became an epidemic, I would hear on our local call-in radio shows about how the dark people kept their babies, and white unwed mothers would have abortions. I got the impression that they were concerned not only about tax money going to dark welfare-moms, but that we were out-pacing whites in population growth.

95 freetoken  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:26:02am

Schiff battled Linda McMahon for the Republican nomination for Senate in Connecticut last time.

It's a screwy world when one has to accept a McMahon as the "reasonable" adult in the room.

96 allegro  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:27:07am

re: #94 OhNoZombies!

It's funny that the main folks who opine abortion are the same ones who seem the most concerned about the browning of the nation.

When I was a kid, and teen pregnancy in the black and Hispanic populations became an epidemic, I would hear on our local call-in radio shows about how the dark people kept their babies, and white unwed mothers would have abortions. I got the impression that they were concerned not only about tax money going to dark welfare-moms, but that we were out-pacing whites in population growth.

I've often wondered about that myself. But then dissonance on the right is a feature, not a bug.

97 Lidane  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:28:15am

re: #92 freetoken

Yes, Schiff is part of the extreme Paulian wing of American politics.

Speaking of Paulians, I'm starting to see more and more "Ron Paul Revolution" stickers around Austin. I've even seen a couple of folks do the whole shoe polish on the car windows thing publicizing Luap Nor. And one of my FB friends is a diehard Paulian. I just don't get it.

98 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:30:44am

re: #96 allegro

Dissonance is also what makes them so darn crazy. All those conflicting ideas bouncing around in one little brain makes it soft and porous.
:)

99 palomino  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:32:16am

re: #85 dragonfire1981

Not just Louisiana, the South period. Here in MS Phil Bryant will probably cruise to victory on Nov. 2. He's way better financed than his Democratic counterpart (Johnny Dupree).

And oh yeah, I'm reasonably confident that personhood amendment will win a solid majority of votes as well.

I'm also sure it would probably do the same in Alabama, Georgia, Texas and Alabama.

Like I said, the South.

Whites in the South still won't vote Dem in most cases. LBJ said, after signing the CRA, that his party "had lost the South for the next generation." Turns out to be even longer than that. From AL, where Dems usually get about 10% of the white vote, to TX where Dems get about 25% of the white vote, the deeper, lower south is still the part of the country where Dems do the worst overall among white voters...by far.

100 Gus  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:32:18am

re: #92 freetoken

Yes, Schiff is part of the extreme Paulian wing of American politics.

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101 zora  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:33:36am

re: #97 Lidane

maybe they think they will be rich drug dealers after the libertarian revolution. he has lots of young supporters. I wonder what will be their reaction to him wanting to end federal student loans? let's see how libertarian they really are.

102 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 11:38:33am

re: #101 zora

maybe they think they will be rich drug dealers after the libertarian revolution. he has lots of young supporters. I wonder what will be their reaction to him wanting to end federal student loans? let's see how libertarian they really are.

No drug laws, no taxes, no banks,

Yeah, I can see the fantasy.

103 dragonfire1981  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 12:20:01pm

re: #99 palomino

Whites in the South still won't vote Dem in most cases. LBJ said, after signing the CRA, that his party "had lost the South for the next generation." Turns out to be even longer than that. From AL, where Dems usually get about 10% of the white vote, to TX where Dems get about 25% of the white vote, the deeper, lower south is still the part of the country where Dems do the worst overall among white voters...by far.

It's also home to most of the strongest Republican leaning districts in the country.

That's part of the problem. The democratic party cannot get any traction down here because there's just limited support all around. It's tough to run an effective and successful campaign when you can't find much support even IF you've got a decent candidate to run.

Self identifying as a Democrat around here is a good way to put a giant bullseye on yourself. I wish I was kidding.

I'm not.

104 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 5:45:07pm
105 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 5:49:11pm

re: #104 WindUpBird

WHERE WILL YOU BE WHEN JESUSWEEN DROPS

Stealing some black kids, apparently.

106 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 6:54:09pm

They will be shocked, when the Uterati vote!

107 pyite  Sun, Oct 23, 2011 7:27:01pm

Shouldn't that be "Uteri" instead of uteruses?

108 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 24, 2011 3:59:28am

re: #107 pyite

Shouldn't that be "Uteri" instead of uteruses?

Either one is fine in English grammar. Interestingly, octopus should never be octopi.


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