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1 laZardo  Tue, Oct 25, 2011 10:32:11pm

Repost from last thread, some classic Oakland vibe that has nothing to do with the fact that GTAV just got announced.

2 freetoken  Tue, Oct 25, 2011 11:10:23pm
3 Alexzander  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 12:25:46am

Someone keep me company; just beginning a graveyard shift.

4 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 12:28:57am

re: #3 Alexzander

Someone keep me company; just beginning a graveyard shift.

Jes’ remembah, after you temporarily defeat them, do NOT cremate them if there’s a rain about to start.

5 Alexzander  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 12:31:36am

re: #4 Sergey Romanov

Jes’ remembah, after you temporarily defeat them, do NOT cremate them if there’s a rain about to start.

This is apt advice as I work with many people suffering from various forms of dementia, who could easily be mistaken for zombies.

6 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 12:38:36am

I hear Turkey finally did ask Israel - and other countries - for humanitarian help.

7 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 1:16:58am

thinkprogress.org

Apparently Rachel Abrams, one of the ECI founders, issues calls to murder on a daily basis.

8 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 1:22:31am

re: #7 Sergey Romanov

Rachel’s blogroll:

Blog Roll
Big Government
Big Hollywood
CiF Watch
Commentary
DRUDGE REPORT
Elliott Abrams: Pressure Points
FOXNews.com
iowahawk
Israel Matzav
Jerusalem Post
Jewish Ideas Daily
Keep America Safe
Lucianne.com
MEMRI
National Review Online
Pajamas Media
PMW - Palwatch.org
Power Line
RealClearPolitics
RedState
Right Turn
RUTHFULLY YOURS
Stakelbeck on Terror
The Misadventures of Mrs Levin
The Smoking Gun
The Weekly Standard

9 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 1:23:16am

re: #3 Alexzander

In my previous life as a janitor, I’ve pulled many.

At one point, I worked many, very old buildings owned by the local phone company. Late at night, completely alone.

One place I first started on was particularly old, and in a really crappy part of town. My boss gave the “the tour” of what needed to be done, finally pointing out the external, recessed door leading to the basement. Guess where I went to work first.

Apparently no one gave a fuck about that basement. Not the janitorial company I worked for, nor the company that hired them. I lugged out at least four large trash bags of blown in dirt an leaves that accumulated in that small basement over the years.

It was poorly lit, in a way that would cast bizarre shadows, and full of large, winding pipes and long obsolete equipment. The entire place looked like a set from a Freddy Kruger nightmare.

I swept out every corner of that creepy little basement, and loved every minute of it. I think I also ate more spider webs that night than I have in my entire life.

Hmnm… I guess my point is, graveyard shifts suck.

10 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 1:25:14am

re: #9 Slumbering Behemoth

YOU RUINED THAT BASEMENT YOU MOFO!!!

11 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 1:40:02am

re: #10 Sergey Romanov

YOU RUINED THAT BASEMENT YOU MOFO!!!

Heh. Yeah, the layers of dirt, dust, and dried leaves really added something to the “Kruger” motif that was going on there.

Hell, I wasn’t even required to clean it. Yet I was given the key…

So I had to look. Being a new hire, I was eager to impress. The atmosphere was just icing on the cake.

It also didn’t hurt that I had a key to the roof hatch, which gave me access to the roof top cell towers which I could climb to witness incredible vistas. Don’t tell my old boss.

Crummy work, crummy pay, but lots of fun, and plenty of good memories.

12 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 1:40:35am

morning all… anyone awake?

13 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 1:41:31am

re: #12 boxhead

morning all… anyone awake?

no

14 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 1:42:32am

re: #8 Sergey Romanov

Rachel’s blogroll:

damn… not on the list… I must be doing something wrong… :)

15 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 1:46:47am

re: #12 boxhead

morning all… anyone awake?

Define “awake”.

16 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 1:50:02am

re: #15 Slumbering Behemoth

awesome… my brother will love that. He is a huge Lovecraft fan…..

17 researchok  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 1:52:43am

Morning, all

18 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 1:52:50am

re: #9 Slumbering Behemoth

I someimtes worked late at a graphics agency in Frankfurt, located in an old turn-of-the century town house.

I learned about the staris: something that happens in old houses - by walking down them, you press down on the steps, which then, after a while, start popping back up into place, making it sound like something invisible is following you up or down the stairs…

19 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 1:54:26am

re: #17 researchok

Morning, all

greetings Earthman…

20 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 1:55:11am

re: #18 ralphieboy

I someimtes worked late at a graphics agency in Frankfurt, located in an old turn-of-the century town house.

I learned about the staris: something that happens in old houses - by walking down them, you press down on the steps, which then, after a while, start popping back up into place, making it sound like something invisible is following you up or down the stairs…

Its haunted…

21 researchok  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:02:45am

re: #19 boxhead

greetings Earthman…

With coffee, there is some truth there

22 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:08:11am

re: #18 ralphieboy

I worked in a bespoke furniture place that had a service elevator that opened directly onto the shop floor. The elevator was slightly faulty, so sometimes it would start up on its own. It was always creepy to be there late, alone, and have the elevator suddenly start up, the doors open, and… nothing come out.

23 researchok  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:15:47am

Woman Giving Birth in Art Gallery, Billing it as Performance Art Show

Here are a few things you can go see at Brooklyn art galleries this week: urban tapestries, black-and-white photography, or if you time it right, Marni Kotak giving birth at the Microscope Gallery in Brooklyn.

Planning could be hard. Ms. Kotak, a performance artist who focuses on everyday events, will be “performing” the birth of her first child whenever he or she chooses to come (in the next few weeks, they hope). But her goal is to deliver in the home-birth center that she and her husband have created inside the small Brooklyn gallery. Expect to see her showering through a plastic curtain, laboring in an inflatable pool or on the double bed where Baby X was conceived, and breastfeeding once the bundle arrives.

The exhibition, “The Birth of Baby X,” raises more than a few interesting questions. Should birth be an exhibition? Who will go to see it? Will anyone take their kids?

Ms. Kotak, who clearly favors a natural, as well as invitational birth, says she has gotten to know visitors passing through the gallery. Those who want to be contacted leave their information at the door. Due to space constraints, only about 15 people (husband, doula, midwife included) will attend the big event. “I’m developing an authentic relationship with these people,” she told the Associated Press.

OKAAAAY

24 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:19:13am

re: #23 researchok

I hope she is not trying to copyright that art cause I think there is plenty of prior art which would invalidate her claim…

silly people

25 researchok  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:24:30am

re: #24 boxhead

I hope she is not trying to copyright that art cause I think there is plenty of prior art which would invalidate her claim…

silly people

Her 15 minutes are up.

She had the baby.

Now comes no sleep, diapers and crying- with no cameras or audience.

Marni Kotak will have to be satisfied with parenthood, which all in all is way better than ‘performance art’.

26 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:26:46am

re: #25 researchok

Her 15 minutes are up.

She had the baby.

Now comes no sleep, diapers and crying- with no cameras or audience.

Marni Kotak will have to be satisfied with parenthood, which all in all is way better than ‘performance art’.

I still remember changing my son’s diaper for the first time. It was in the hospital soon after his birth. *BIG SMILE*

27 researchok  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:35:29am

re: #26 boxhead

I still remember changing my son’s diaper for the first time. It was in the hospital soon after his birth. *BIG SMILE*

I remember my daughters birth like it was yesterday.

May 4 @4:12 AM.

Best day of my life.

I wrote about it here and here.

28 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:37:58am

re: #18 ralphieboy

That’s one of the things I love about rational, scientifical observations. They make superstitions simply melt away.

There’s nothing much that is scary about the quiet, dark, empty spaces. Until real, living humans intrude.

Same “creepy” place I referenced above, in that crappy part of town…

One night I stepped outside the front door to have a smoke. The door facing the street, which locks automatically when it closes. An area completely unsecure and indefensible, in a neighborhood that was dark, quite as a graveyard at that time of night, and often dangerous.

I was young, naive, and stupid. Otherwise I would have gone out the back door into the parking lot surrounded by a tall fence topped with barbed wire.

At any rate, as I smoked, two guys appeared from no where and asked if I could spare a smoke. Being the amiable idiot that I was, I said “Sure”.

They quickly looked left and right as they began to cross the street. At 3 AM, in an area that hadn’t seen a single moving car in hours. Their intent became clear to me, and at that moment I realized how terribly stupid I was, and understood fully the legendary focus of a man about to be hanged. I was about to die in a darkened, recessed doorway, in a neighborhood that likely would not hear my cry for help, nor give a shit if it could.

As they were halfway across the street, one man looked to the other and semi-whispered “Cop. Cop”., and they broke away from me in different directions. And sure enough, a patrol car rolled by.

All of this happened in less than twenty seconds, and it left an indelible mark on my brain. I was stupid, and lucky. A very rare combination of states. Even rarer is when the stupid, lucky bastard learns from it.

29 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:54:36am

re: #27 researchok

I remember my daughters birth like it was yesterday.

May 4 @4:12 AM.

Best day of my life.

I wrote about it here and here.

awesome…. as a man, being right there when my son was born is one of the best memories in my life… I even got to cut the cord….

30 Alexzander  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:58:45am

re: #28 Slumbering Behemoth

..wow.

31 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:59:47am

re: #28 Slumbering Behemoth

Growing up in an area where gangs existed, knowing your surroundings was very important as well as when you were walking the streets, you had to walk with intent and not like a victim… life in the big city… :p

32 researchok  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:59:58am

re: #29 boxhead

awesome… as a man, being right there when my son was born is one of the best memories in my life… I even got to cut the cord…

Understood.

33 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:06:44am

re: #32 researchok

So I am assuming that is your blog you posted the links from. Very beautiful words…. thank you for sharing

34 laZardo  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:08:29am

re: #9 Slumbering Behemoth

Hmnm… I guess my point is, graveyard shifts suck.

But you get paid 50% more.

35 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:08:59am

re: #34 laZardo

But you get paid 50% more.

heh

36 researchok  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:09:22am

re: #33 boxhead

So I am assuming that your blog you posted the links from. Very beautiful words…

Yup

TY

37 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:11:01am

re: #36 researchok

Yup

TY

I really want to go and hug my son right now… but he is 19 and sleeping… he would think I was nuts… heh

38 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:11:07am

re: #31 boxhead

Growing up in an area where gangs existed, knowing your surroundings was very important as well as when you were walking the streets, you had to walk with intent and not like a victim… life in the big city… :p

Grew up in Gary, Indiana. Went to visit a brother in a small town in upstate New York whre there had not been a robbery in years. They parked their car in an open garage with the keys still in it.

I could not get to sleep until I got up and locked all the doors and windows.

39 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:13:51am

Why didn’t anyone tell me that Corel Visual Studio was awesome?

Dang it, the time I’ve wasted in sucky video editors.

40 researchok  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:14:29am

re: #37 boxhead

I really want to go and hug my son right now… but he is 19 and sleeping… he would think I was nuts… heh

They say they come back around at age 30.

Here’s hoping.
/

41 researchok  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:15:39am

Gotta get ready for the battle.

Later, all

42 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:17:10am

re: #38 ralphieboy

Grew up in Gary, Indiana. Went to visit a brother in a small town in upstate New York whre there had not been a robbery in years. They parked their car in an open garage with the keys still in it.

I could not get to sleep until I got up and locked all the doors and windows.

yep… And as Hemingway wrote in “Old Man and the Sea”.

No one would steal from the old man but it was better to take the sail and the heavy lines home as the dew was bad for them and, though he was quite sure no local people would steal from him, the old man thought that a gaff and a harpoon were needless temptations to leave in a boat.

Still a good thing to lock up….. at least that is my story and I am sticking to it… har de har

43 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:17:27am

re: #41 researchok

Gotta get ready for the battle.

Later, all

night!

44 laZardo  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:19:51am

So there’s this Halloween anti-racism poster campaign going on at Ohio U.

And it met the internet.

45 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:20:26am

Morning Cupcakes!

46 laZardo  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:21:21am

re: #45 RogueOne

…cupcakes?

47 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:21:56am

re: #45 RogueOne

Morning Cupcakes!

morning.. arrr, 3:20 am for me… heh

48 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:22:58am

re: #47 boxhead

I’ve been up since 4. 5 McRibs in 4 days finally got me…. On the plus side, I’m already finished with my material lists I needed to get out today.

49 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:23:11am

re: #30 Alexzander

It spooked my ass something proper.

re: #31 boxhead

There was plenty of fighting, stick swinging, rock throwing, bleeding, etc. when I grew up, but very little that was deadly serious.

I grew up poor, but I did not grow up in that kind of environment you describe. Which is why I say I was stupid and naive. I really was.

That twenty seconds scared me more than any fantasies of ghosts, demons, or monsters, and it drove a lesson into me that I did not learn growing up. Situational awareness.

Where am I? What am I doing or about to do? In what ways am I vulnerable? What elements of my environment can I use to my advantage?

Since then, there has been more than a few occasions where my friends have brushed off my concerns as paranoia only to find out that as we were leaving, things were starting to get all too real.

I’m not particularly street smart, but I got a couple of years of that burnt into me in that weird twenty seconds.

50 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:24:01am

re: #44 laZardo

So there’s this Halloween anti-racism poster campaign going on at Ohio U.

And it met the internet.

not seeing bad intent in those costumes… unless it is cause I don’t have my glasses on

51 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:28:40am

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth

Believe me I have been there… Both awareness and dumb luck has helped me. It is a very humbling feeling after the fact knowing what could have been and not being able to do much about it.

But compared to people growing up in war zones….. I feel like the 1%. :)

52 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:31:05am

Morning Honcos.

53 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:34:43am

re: #38 ralphieboy

One of the things that constantly puzzles me are people who are shocked by robbery in their quiet, safe neighborhoods.

You see it on the news all the time… “You don’t expect this sort of thing to happen in such a good area.”

You don’t? Poor people don’t rob each other, dumbass. They go where the gettin’s good.

The only time you hear of a robbery in a shitty part of town is when someone robs a dealer.

54 laZardo  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:37:56am

re: #53 Slumbering Behemoth

One of the things that constantly puzzles me are people who are shocked by robbery in their quiet, safe neighborhoods.

You see it on the news all the time… “You don’t expect this sort of thing to happen in such a good area.”

You don’t? Poor people don’t rob each other, dumbass. They go where the gettin’s good.

The only time you hear of a robbery in a shitty part of town is when someone robs a dealer.

It’s like that joke where the ‘hood schools are always getting shot up, but you only hear of the Columbines because the kids actually take the time to aim.

//yeah, i’m dead inside

55 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:39:03am

re: #54 laZardo

Dude. That is so wrong. Ding.

56 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:40:29am

re: #51 boxhead

But compared to people growing up in war zones… I feel like the 1%. :)

Heard. That.

I grew up one block away from the railroad tracks. Not a great area, but street gangs were not as big then either.

Heh. We played “Army” nearly everyday on those tracks. Good times.

57 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:44:35am

Whoa. Way past my bed time. Laters all.

58 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:47:35am

re: #48 RogueOne

I’ve been up since 4. 5 McRibs in 4 days finally got me… On the plus side, I’m already finished with my material lists I needed to get out today.

Hail the McRib!!!

59 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:56:20am

re: #58 Cannadian Club Akbar

According to the TV Doc show I’m now at risk of getting polycystic ovarian syndrome by eating fast food and it can also affect my cycle. I think I’m starting to get hormonal.

60 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:58:54am

Okay. I’ve struggled with it, and Cain’s ad is too hard for me to make a video parodying it. It’s such a parody already.

So instead I’m going to try to make his ad fight with a Romney ad.

61 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:59:26am

re: #59 RogueOne

According to the TV Doc show I’m now at risk of getting polycystic ovarian syndrome by eating fast food and it can also affect my cycle. I think I’m starting to get hormonal.

Well, if that news make you sad you can go onto Dr. Phil and maybe he can help. If not, just start drinking or shooting heroin and we’ll eventually get you on Intervention on A&E. There’s help out there, you just need cable.

62 boxhead  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:00:41am

re: #56 Slumbering Behemoth

Heard. That.

I grew up one block away from the railroad tracks. Not a great area, but street gangs were not as big then either.

Heh. We played “Army” nearly everyday on those tracks. Good times.

I had train tracks too!! LOL

63 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:02:46am

re: #61 Cannadian Club Akbar

More fast food related…I think they might be talking about eating too many McRibs in this one…or they got a new cook they’re very proud of:
i.huffpost.com

64 laZardo  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:02:57am

re: #61 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, if that news make you sad you can go onto Dr. Phil and maybe he can help. If not, just start drinking or shooting heroin and we’ll eventually get you on Intervention on A&E. There’s help out there, you just need cable.

If you’re not up to getting horrifically addicted, you could try Hoarders or whatever that show was.

65 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:05:28am

When voters in Ohio’s 1st Congressional District threw Democrat Steve Driehaus out of office after only one term, he did not bow out gracefully. No, he decided to get even. So he did what anyone does in today’s culture: he sued somebody.
usnews.com

Get this guy a tampon.

66 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:06:33am

re: #61 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #64 laZardo

I went out west for a couple years for a job. In order to do well I had to work close to 80hrs a week, every week. I would stop to eat once a day, either in a bar late at night or a fast food drive-thru. I looked so bad after 2 years of that when I got back my friends were insistent that I was hooked on meth. 2 of them took me to lunch to discuss my “drug problem”….

67 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:08:31am

re: #65 Cannadian Club Akbar

Someone get whoever wrote that article two tampons.

68 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:12:50am

re: #65 Cannadian Club Akbar

Looks to me like the Susan B. Anthony group did, in fact, lie.

tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com

On Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Timothy Black threw out the SBA List’s lawsuit, saying that he had no jurisdiction in the case since the billboards never ran and the OEC never made a final ruling. Black also ruled that Driehaus can proceed with his suit, because, as Black wrote, “the express language of [the health care law] does not provide for tax-payer funded abortion. That is a fact, and it is clear on its face.”

Black wrote that the ad in question was written as though conveying facts and “does not signal that the speaker is imparting an opinion.”

69 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:13:11am

re: #67 Obdicut

Someone get whoever wrote that article two tampons.

Why? Did they lose their job too?

70 laZardo  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:13:38am

re: #66 RogueOne

That’s some full-fledged documovie stuff right there.

71 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:17:52am

Update on Lindsay Lohan, I know you’re all dying for more Lindsay!

Lindsay Lohan
NUDE Playboy Spread
For Nearly $1 MILLION!!
tmz.com

Maybe with a million bucks she’ll stop stealing jewelry.

72 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:18:25am

re: #69 Cannadian Club Akbar

Take a look at the dude’s other articles. He’s just another boilerplate herpy dude.

73 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:18:25am

re: #70 laZardo

That’s some full-fledged documovie stuff right there.

Intervention: Fast Food. Cool story huh?

74 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:21:42am

re: #72 Obdicut

Take a look at the dude’s other articles. He’s just another boilerplate herpy dude.

I don’t care about the author. The dude lost so he sued. And he didn’t lose by a point or two. He lost by 7.4%.
en.wikipedia.org

75 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:24:42am

re: #74 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’m not sure you’re really getting his complaint. He’s suing for having been defamed— he’s saying that they actively lied about the facts.

That Fox News lawsuit long ago where they successfully defended their right to lie was, I think, a serious misstep. A lot of the problem we have in the US is a too much propaganda problem.

76 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:24:55am

re: #73 RogueOne

Intervention: Fast Food. Cool story huh?

Dude, just one more Filet O’ Fish. C’mon. Last one, I promise!!

77 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:36:42am

re: #67 Obdicut

Someone get whoever wrote that article two tampons.

Someone say ‘tampons’? Gives me a chance to pimp Number One Daughter’s humor blog:

lorcadamon.com

78 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:42:07am

Why dogs are better than cats part 813:

Dog stays by dead owner’s side for weeks in wilderness
A northern California man and his dog vanished after going on a hunting trip.

ksdk.com

79 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:45:14am

re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar

The big-box fast food has gotten so damn expensive I don’t understand why anyone buys it. When you order a big mac, you get 3.2 ounces of meat. And not high quality meat. A big Mac around here costs $3.75. Every dollar gets you .85 of an ounce of beef.

At Shake Shack you can get a Shackburger, with 4 ounces of fresh-ground, higher quality beef for $4.50. Every dollar gets you .88 ounces of beef.

So you get more beef at Shackburger, better ingredients, the wait time is about the same. And the shackburger tastes about a thousand times better.

80 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:46:38am

re: #44 laZardo

So there’s this Halloween anti-racism poster campaign going on at Ohio U.

And it met the internet.

I encountered that on FB a while back. Does it mean I cannot wear a kilt and a silly red wig and go as a Scotsman?

Please, people, this is Hallowe’en. You can suspend your righteous indignation for one day out of the year…

81 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:46:40am

Boker tov, Lizardia!

82 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:48:15am

re: #80 ralphieboy

Nope. Blackface is insulting, stupid, idiotic, and doing it for Halloween is moronic. If anyone showed up to a party of mine in blackface he’d get kicked out in a minute.

83 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:49:22am

People at work are going to be dressing up on Halloween. I think I will go as an IT person. (wear the same thing that I wear every other day). Or I could wear a matching jacket and skirt and pearl earrings and go as an “executive.” What do you guys think?

84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:49:52am

Hey y’all!

America! Fuck Yeah!

85 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:50:00am

re: #83 Alouette

I think you should go as someone who steals office supplies.

86 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:51:03am

re: #83 Alouette

People at work are going to be dressing up on Halloween. I think I will go as an IT person. (wear the same thing that I wear every other day). Or I could wear a matching jacket and skirt and pearl earrings and go as an “executive.” What do you guys think?

Wear the Rockports and tell people you are going as an bad undercover cop investigating an IT shop.

87 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:51:41am

re: #84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Linky no worky.

88 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:51:41am

re: #77 Decatur Deb

Someone say ‘tampons’? Gives me a chance to pimp Number One Daughter’s humor blog:

[Link: lorcadamon.com…]

Thanks. discountstripper.com is now bookmarked.

89 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:51:42am

re: #84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey y’all!

America! Fuck Yeah!

403’d me.

90 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:52:08am

re: #85 Obdicut

I think you should go as someone who steals office supplies.

There are no office supplies to steal around here. I’m totally serious. No staples in the “communal stapler” in the break room. No paper clips. Even the people who keep the keys to the supply cabinets say there is nothing in there.

Years ago people would bring their kids’ school supply list to the supply room.

91 laZardo  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:52:18am

re: #83 Alouette

People at work are going to be dressing up on Halloween. I think I will go as an IT person. (wear the same thing that I wear every other day). Or I could wear a matching jacket and skirt and pearl earrings and go as an “executive.” What do you guys think?

Bring a matching bottle of champagne and you can go as a one-percenter.

92 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:52:34am

re: #88 RogueOne

Thanks. [Link: www.discountstripper.com…] is now bookmarked.

I’m sure you’ll look sweet in this.
discountstripper.com

93 laZardo  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:52:53am

re: #84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Forbidden

You do not have permission to access this document.

I:

94 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:52:53am

re: #88 RogueOne

Thanks. [Link: www.discountstripper.com…] is now bookmarked.

Don’t mind if you bookmark it, but why does my daughter have it?

95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:54:04am

re: #79 Obdicut

Does a Shackburger have copious amounts of cocaine laced into the beef? Huh? Well does it?

I didn’t think so.

96 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:54:32am

re: #82 Obdicut

Nope. Blackface is insulting, stupid, idiotic, and doing it for Halloween is moronic. If anyone showed up to a party of mine in blackface he’d get kicked out in a minute.

It’s your party, you can dis-invite anyone you want to. Is dressing up as a Scotsman okay? How about as a Bavarian in Lederhosen? I read that even witch costumes were frowned upon in Britain as “propagating sterotypes about wiccans”.

Please, we need clear guidelines here so as to be able to celebrate a fun and nonetheless PC Hallowe’en.

97 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:56:01am

re: #92 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’m sure you’ll look sweet in this.
[Link: www.discountstripper.com…]

I would look great in that…I wonder if she’s single?

98 laZardo  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:56:23am

re: #96 ralphieboy

How about a black Scotsman?

99 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:56:54am

re: #94 Decatur Deb

Don’t mind if you bookmark it, but why does my daughter have it?

I think that’s one of those “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” situations. Sometimes you’re better off not knowing.

100 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:57:27am

re: #84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Worked for me.

Weird.

101 iossarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:57:47am

re: #83 Alouette

People at work are going to be dressing up on Halloween. I think I will go as an IT person. (wear the same thing that I wear every other day). Or I could wear a matching jacket and skirt and pearl earrings and go as an “executive.” What do you guys think?

You can’t just go as yourself - that’s my one Rule of Halloween.

I once went to a fancy dress party (not Halloween) at which I met a fairly major celebrity (my one, brief, brush with fame). My costume was OK-ish (I was dressed as a pimp) but I was standing next to a friend of mine who was wearing a replica sports jersey and jeans. The celeb asked my friend “what have you come as” and my friend replied “a stupid c***”. Brush with fame OVAH.

102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:58:57am

re: #91 laZardo

Bring a matching bottle of champagne and you can go as a one-percenter.

You can go as an OWS protester and not go to work.

103 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:59:37am

re: #102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You can go as an OWS protester and not go to work.

Or get a hoveround and go as a TPer.
:P

104 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 4:59:43am

re: #96 ralphieboy

The Mexican with the burro is offensive….and probably why it’s funny. There’s a fine line at Halloween. I guess it depends on the gathering.

105 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:00:26am

re: #96 ralphieboy

It’s your party, you can dis-invite anyone you want to. Is dressing up as a Scotsman okay?

Did there use to be minstrel shows featuring Scots, during a time that Bavarians weren’t allowed to vote and segregated from main society?

How about as a Bavarian in Lederhosen?

Did there used to be minstrel shows featuring Bavarians, during a time that scots weren’t allowed to vote and segregated from main society?

Please, we need clear guidelines here so as to be able to celebrate a fun and nonetheless PC Hallowe’en.

Wear whatever you want. If you want to wear blackface, you can hang out with the other people who think wearing blackface is great. If you want to wear a costume of a stereotypical Jew, like they do in Vilnus, feel free.

But why would you?

106 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:00:29am

re: #101 iossarian

I love your friend.

107 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:02:28am

re: #106 RogueOne

I love your friend.

You’re that type of friend, aren’t ya???

108 darthstar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:03:37am

re: #103 Varek Raith

Or get a hoveround and go as a TPer.
:P

With the little flags on the back of the seat, a misspelled sign reading “Keep govvermint off my medicare”, a 64 ounce Slurpee in the drink holder and a Costco size bag of Cheetos by your feet.

109 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:04:44am

re: #107 Varek Raith

You’re that type of friend, aren’t ya???

I’m good at saying things that are totally inappropriate.

110 iossarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:05:19am

re: #106 RogueOne

I love your friend.

Yeah, me too. He said it really deadpan. I was doing that kind of “that’s really funny and you (celeb) look like an idiot right now, and you’d better leave because otherwise I’m going to explode with mirth and spray champagne all over you” face.

So he smiled politely and moved on.

111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:08:15am

re: #110 iossarian

Oh, C’mon! Who was the celebrity!?!? We won’t tell anyone. We promise!

*fingers crossed behind back*

112 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:10:17am

re: #110 iossarian

I called a member of the House of Lords an ignorant dweeb on the radio in England. He went to jail afterwards.

That’s what you get.

113 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:14:56am

I think I will wear black and orange. Halloween colors, right? In the spirit of the day and yet totally not offending anyone except for people who hate the colors black and orange.

114 iossarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:15:26am

re: #112 Obdicut

I called a member of the House of Lords an ignorant dweeb on the radio in England. He went to jail afterwards.

That’s what you get.

That’s fair enough (if he was indeed an ignorant dweeb). My friend’s comment was more in the obnoxious humor department.

re: #111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, C’mon! Who was the celebrity!?!? We won’t tell anyone. We promise!

*fingers crossed behind back*

Not telling, but only because it wouldn’t really add anything more to my already super-cool story.

115 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:15:59am

I don’t own anything that is really orange. I have a shirt that is “pumpkin” colored. That will have to do.

116 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:16:24am

re: #114 iossarian

It was Jefferey Archer. I was going easy on him.

117 iossarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:17:02am

re: #116 Obdicut

It was Jefferey Archer. I was going easy on him.

Hahaha. What a dick. I’m glad you called him out.

118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:17:30am

re: #114 iossarian

Looks down… kicks dust… Awww.

119 iossarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:17:55am

re: #115 Alouette

I don’t own anything that is really orange. I have a shirt that is “pumpkin” colored. That will have to do.

Costume found:

lh4.googleusercontent.com

120 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:18:06am

re: #118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My brother’s mother (they’re my half-brothers, technically) was Christopher Walken’s best friend as a teenager. They’ve gotten to hang out with him.

121 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:18:46am

More on the Houston DUI testing scandal:

Harris County DA responds to BAT van investigation controversy
abclocal.go.com

HOUSTON (KTRK) — The Harris County district attorney says she doesn’t trust the Houston Police Department to handle DWI testing.

Pat Lykos’ comments come days after we reported one of her prosecutors was ejected from a grand jury room ahead of testimony about those BAT vans.

Lykos tells us she still doesn’t know what went wrong inside that grand jury room last week that nearly led to the arrest of two of her top assistants, despite the fact one of them was in the room with us during the interview. What she does know is that she no longer wants HPD supervising its own DWI vans.

“That’s what perturbs me,” she said.

Lykos told us Monday she’s done trusting HPD to tell her the truth about DWI testing.

“We were never informed there were questions about whether the tests were valid,” Lykos said.

I’m going to go ahead and call “bullshit” on the bolded portion.

122 iossarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:18:48am

re: #118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Looks down… kicks dust… Awww.

Oh, alright then, since Obdicut went first.

It was HRH Prince Edward, the Earl of Wessex.

123 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:19:45am

re: #120 Obdicut

My brother’s mother (they’re my half-brothers, techncially) was Christopher Walken’s best friend as a teenager. They’ve gotten to hang out with him.

THAT’S NOT FAIR

124 iossarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:20:31am

re: #120 Obdicut

My brother’s mother (they’re my half-brothers, technically) was Christopher Walken’s best friend as a teenager. They’ve gotten to hang out with him.

I had a friend who knew Eric Clapton’s family, and regularly went on vacation with them.

125 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:22:35am

re: #124 iossarian

I had a friend who knew Eric Clapton’s family, and regularly went on vacation with them.

I went to SA on vacation with my buddy Eric and came back with the clap. Maybe we’re related.

126 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:22:54am

re: #115 Alouette

I don’t own anything that is really orange. I have a shirt that is “pumpkin” colored. That will have to do.

Buy some fake cats, go as this.
Image: 200px-Crazycatlady.jpg

127 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:24:33am

re: #120 Obdicut

That would be a cool guy to know. I’ve had several celeb chance meetings.

I always try to do something so that they remember me.

For example, I was flying to Pittsburgh and right beside me? Treach, from the hip-hop group “Naughty By Nature”. Right during the “O.P.P.” craze. It was an early morning flight and they had been up all night partying after a concert.

Guess who talked to him for the entire flight about nothing. Non-stop… hour and a half of talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk… Totally on purpose, just to mess with his head.

He was so polite about it I almost stopped out of appreciation, but then I thought, “No. He won’t remember that.”

128 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:26:56am

re: #126 Cannadian Club Akbar

Buy some fake cats, go as this.
Image: 200px-Crazycatlady.jpg

About 10 years ago, the last time I worked at GM, some of the managers wore cowboy hats, boots and dusters with cats all over them, as “cat herders”

129 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:27:52am

Today is trash day. (yard waste) After a year of having nothing to pick up here, my friend and I trimmed trees and raked leafs. Today? 12 FULL cans and 4 full bags.

130 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:29:15am

re: #129 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sounds like too much work. I mowed my grass for the first time in over a month yesterday.

131 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:29:37am

Morning Lizardim. What’s new for us to mock amongst the vast unhinged?

132 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:32:53am

Jon Stewart Mocks Pat Robertson’s Call For GOP Candidates To ‘Tone It Down’
mediaite.com

133 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:42:23am

re: #132 RogueOne

Jon Stewart Mocks Pat Robertson’s Call For GOP Candidates To ‘Tone It Down’
[Link: www.mediaite.com…]

“That guy?!?!”

Lol.

134 RogueOne  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:44:20am

Time to get to work. Enjoy the day peeps!

135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:45:03am

re: #134 RogueOne

Time to get to work. Enjoy the day peeps!

Yeah, me too.

136 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:51:59am

Tygre, Tygre Burning Bright …

How is everyone this morning?

137 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:54:13am

My radio just said Amy Winehouse’s blood results came back. Her alcohol level was 4 1/2 times the legal limit. (.08 is the normal limit, so pushing .36ish) That’ll do it.

138 Gus  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:54:32am

Wet Snow + Powerlines = _________

This is a quiz.

139 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:54:52am

re: #137 Cannadian Club Akbar

My radio just said Amy Winehouse’s blood results came back. Her alcohol level was 4 1/2 times the legal limit. (.08 is the normal limit, so pushing .36ish) That’ll do it.

Not to mention pushing the death limit. Sheesh.

140 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:55:26am

re: #137 Cannadian Club Akbar

My radio just said Amy Winehouse’s blood results came back. Her alcohol level was 4 1/2 times the legal limit. (.08 is the normal limit, so pushing .36ish) That’ll do it.

Her tox report came back a while ago, but got sent to the wrong address.

141 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:55:32am

re: #138 Gus 802

Wet Snow + Powerlines = ___

This is a quiz.

Sparks?

142 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:55:33am

re: #138 Gus 802

Wet Snow + Powerlines = ___

This is a quiz.

Chicken.

143 garhighway  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:55:48am

Morning, all. It is a gray one in NYC this morning.

Two bits of economic thought. First, an Op-Ed from the NYT:

nytimes.com

sample:
AS an economic historian who has been studying American capitalism for 35 years, I’m going to let you in on the best-kept secret of the last century: private investment — that is, using business profits to increase productivity and output — doesn’t actually drive economic growth. Consumer debt and government spending do. Private investment isn’t even necessary to promote growth.

This is, to put it mildly, a controversial claim. Economists will tell you that private business investment causes growth because it pays for the new plant or equipment that creates jobs, improves labor productivity and increases workers’ incomes. As a result, you’ll hear politicians insisting that more incentives for private investors — lower taxes on corporate profits — will lead to faster and better-balanced growth.

The general public seems to agree. According to a New York Times/CBS News poll in May, a majority of Americans believe that increased corporate taxes “would discourage American companies from creating jobs.”

But history shows that this is wrong.

Second, the CBO just came out with a new report detailing the changes in income distribution in the US over the past 30 years. here it is:

cbo.gov

I can’t say the contents of the report are surprising. It shows that income inequality in the US has risen sharply over the time studied. What a shocker. A few paragraphs from the summary:

For the 1 percent of the population with the highest
income, average real after-tax household income grew
by 275 percent between 1979 and 2007 (see Summary
Figure 1).
 For others in the 20 percent of the population with
the highest income (those in the 81st through 99th
percentiles), average real after-tax household income
grew by 65 percent over that period, much faster than
it did for the remaining 80 percent of the population,
but not nearly as fast as for the top 1 percent.
 For the 60 percent of the population in the middle of
the income scale (the 21st through 80th percentiles),
the growth in average real after-tax household income
was just under 40 percent.

144 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:56:12am

re: #138 Gus 802

Wet Snow + Powerlines = ___

This is a quiz.

Downed wires.

145 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:56:20am

re: #83 Alouette

People at work are going to be dressing up on Halloween. I think I will go as an IT person. (wear the same thing that I wear every other day). Or I could wear a matching jacket and skirt and pearl earrings and go as an “executive.” What do you guys think?

Dress up high end, being bossy and commanding, and go as a 1%-er!

;)

146 Gus  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:57:45am

re: #144 Alouette

Downed wires.

We have a winner! Don’t know what it is yet but the power when out. Was preceded by some large banging noise. I was out there before and heard a tree branch snap. Went back in and 15 minutes later…poof!

147 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:59:02am

re: #146 Gus 802

We have a winner! Don’t know what it is yet but the power when out. Was preceded by some large banging noise. I was out there before and heard a tree branch snap. Went back in and 15 minutes later…poof!

Fuckin’ biased quizzes.
/

148 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:59:05am

re: #146 Gus 802

We have a winner! Don’t know what it is yet but the power when out. Was preceded by some large banging noise. I was out there before and heard a tree branch snap. Went back in and 15 minutes later…poof!

Don’t panic.
You still have all your gold and seeds.
Right?!?!
/

149 Gus  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:01:12am

re: #148 Varek Raith

Don’t panic.
You still have all your gold and seeds.
Right?!?!
/

This is about as exciting as a stomach flu. Come to think of it… Nah. It was already cold in here. Was just out in the alleyway looking for something obvious. Freezing cold. Wet snow on the ground. Dark. Bleh.

150 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:04:05am

re: #148 Varek Raith

Don’t panic.
You still have all your gold and seeds.
Right?!?!
/

and your towel, right? You know where your towel is?

151 Gus  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:07:10am

My first observation is that if this was permanent it would drastically change my life.

The microwave is in a coma. The coffee machine is in a coma. Forehead getting cold. Battery levels reduced. Must get to…

[Static]

152 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:07:31am

re: #149 Gus 802

This is about as exciting as a stomach flu. Come to think of it… Nah. It was already cold in here. Was just out in the alleyway looking for something obvious. Freezing cold. Wet snow on the ground. Dark. Bleh.

Snow is expected to continue through Wednesday afternoon before ending Wednesday evening.

9NEWS Meteorologist Ashton Altieri says a WINTER STORM WARNING continues until 6 p.m. for up to 8 inches in the Denver metro area and up to 16 inches around Fort Collins, Loveland, and Greeley.
9news.com

Doesn’t it annoy you when people tell you what you already know?:)

153 Gus  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:09:29am

re: #152 Cannadian Club Akbar

Snow is expected to continue through Wednesday afternoon before ending Wednesday evening.

9NEWS Meteorologist Ashton Altieri says a WINTER STORM WARNING continues until 6 p.m. for up to 8 inches in the Denver metro area and up to 16 inches around Fort Collins, Loveland, and Greeley.
[Link: www.9news.com…]

Doesn’t it annoy you when people tell you what you already know?:)

Yep. I heard it a million times on 9 News in between their frequent bouts of giggling and appearance of being punch drunk. Your local news guys like that?

154 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:11:14am

re: #153 Gus 802

Yep. I heard it a million times on 9 News in between their frequent bouts of giggling and appearance of being punch drunk. Your local news guys like that?

I don’t watch news, local or otherwise.

155 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:11:31am

re: #153 Gus 802

Yep. I heard it a million times on 9 News in between their frequent bouts of giggling and appearance of being punch drunk. Your local news guys like that?

Send some my way, pleez?

156 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:13:13am

re: #153 Gus 802

Yep. I heard it a million times on 9 News in between their frequent bouts of giggling and appearance of being punch drunk. Your local news guys like that?

Heh, one of the morning ladies is like that.
On at 4:30am and as cheery as a pot head.
:/

157 Gus  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:13:15am

BIAB. I gotta make some coffee or something to eat. Save the battery on this thing. Later folks.

158 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:14:09am

re: #157 Gus 802

BIAB. I gotta make some coffee or something to eat. Save the battery on this thing. Later folks.

But how can you have any coffee if you don’t have power?

How can you have any power if you don’t have coffee?

159 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:17:16am

re: #151 Gus 802

My first observation is that if this was permanent it would drastically change my life.

The microwave is in a coma. The coffee machine is in a coma. Forehead getting cold. Battery levels reduced. Must get to…

[Static]

Hope you have a generator or somesuch on hand. It was one of the first things I got when I moved into my house. Considering that the power grid out where I live is relatively fragile, I’m sure it will pay itself off in short order, depending on how hard this winter will be. All indicators point to a relatively mild season, though.

160 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:17:26am

re: #151 Gus 802

My first observation is that if this was permanent it would drastically change my life.

The microwave is in a coma. The coffee machine is in a coma. Forehead getting cold. Battery levels reduced. Must get to…

[Static]

How are you able to access Teh Interwebz? Where are you, at a Starbucks?

161 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:19:59am

re: #159 thedopefishlives

I couldn’t imagine losing power during a blizzard. But I guess if you have a fireplace it would be better. But I’m pretty sure not all houses in the North have fireplaces.

162 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:24:09am

re: #161 Cannadian Club Akbar

I couldn’t imagine losing power during a blizzard. But I guess if you have a fireplace it would be better. But I’m pretty sure not all houses in the North have fireplaces.

It’s pretty much a requirement here in heavy snow country to have either a form of alternative heating, or a generator big enough to run your furnace for an extended period. I have personally experienced a blizzard so severe that the power was out for 4 straight days.

163 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:35:20am

re: #161 Cannadian Club Akbar

I couldn’t imagine losing power during a blizzard. But I guess if you have a fireplace it would be better. But I’m pretty sure not all houses in the North have fireplaces.

I lost power here in the middle of Philadelphia last night. Just the block I live on. And while the stuffed pumpkin was cooking in the (electric) oven…

:(

164 sattv4u2  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:35:59am

re: #161 Cannadian Club Akbar

I couldn’t imagine losing power during a blizzard. But I guess if you have a fireplace it would be better. But I’m pretty sure not all houses in the North have fireplaces.

Was born and raised in a three decker in Boston

Coal furnace for heat when I was a toddler,, oil after that,, and much later gas

No fireplaces

we lost power a number of times,, just bundle up and wait it out

165 darthstar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:39:32am

re: #122 iossarian

Oh, alright then, since Obdicut went first.

It was HRH Prince Edward, the Earl of Wessex.

What was that fucking c*** wearing as a costume?/

166 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:40:22am

re: #162 thedopefishlives

re: #163 oaktree

re: #164 sattv4u2

If I told you the amount of people in Florida who want a house with a fireplace you would laugh. Or chortle.

167 sattv4u2  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:41:10am

re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #163 oaktree

re: #164 sattv4u2

If I told you the amount of people in Florida who want a house with a fireplace you would laugh. Or chortle.

Most here in Atlanta have one

168 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:41:27am

re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #163 oaktree

re: #164 sattv4u2

If I told you the amount of people in Florida who want a house with a fireplace you would laugh. Or chortle.

A decorative one, or one that could effectively be used to heat a few rooms and potentially cook in?

169 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:41:51am

I have a fireplace, but I don’t count it as a fireplace.

It turns on and off with a lightswitch.

Just isn’t the same.

170 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:42:10am

re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #163 oaktree

re: #164 sattv4u2

If I told you the amount of people in Florida who want a house with a fireplace you would laugh. Or chortle.

Probably. But then again, we always get a good laugh when we see traffic at a standstill in some Southern state because a single snowflake touched down somewhere. Here in Minnesnowta, the attitude is more like, “Hell, we’ll drive even crazier when the snow starts flying, because screw safety, that’s why.”

171 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:42:14am

re: #168 oaktree

A decorative one, or one that could effectively be used to heat a few rooms and potentially cook in?

One that actually works.

172 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:43:07am

re: #170 thedopefishlives

Probably. But then again, we always get a good laugh when we see traffic at a standstill in some Southern state because a single snowflake touched down somewhere. Here in Minnesnowta, the attitude is more like, “Hell, we’ll drive even crazier when the snow starts flying, because screw safety, that’s why.”

That would be Atlanta.

173 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:43:20am

re: #169 ggt

I have a fireplace, but I don’t count it as a fireplace.

It turns on and off with a lightswitch.

Just isn’t the same.

Maybe there should be a requirement that between the ages of X and Y (barring certain exemptions) you have to split your own wood in order to have and use a fireplace. That’d make folk appreciate them!
/

174 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:43:23am

re: #170 thedopefishlives

Probably. But then again, we always get a good laugh when we see traffic at a standstill in some Southern state because a single snowflake touched down somewhere. Here in Minnesnowta, the attitude is more like, “Hell, we’ll drive even crazier when the snow starts flying, because screw safety, that’s why.”

Yeah, those suthernr’s just don’t get it.

175 sattv4u2  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:43:28am

re: #168 oaktree

A decorative one, or one that could effectively be used to heat a few rooms and potentially cook in?

Decorative mostly

The one we have is gas and isn’t designed to throw off much heat

176 sattv4u2  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:44:09am

re: #168 oaktree

re: #175 sattv4u2

Decorative mostly

The one we have is gas and isn’t designed to throw off much heat

(gas fired,,, not gas logs,,, we have to put real wood logs in)

177 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:44:42am

re: #173 oaktree

Maybe there should be a requirement that between the ages of X and Y (barring certain exemptions) you have to split your own wood in order to have and use a fireplace. That’d make folk appreciate them!
/

This, right here, is why I haven’t actually used the fireplace in my current house. I’ve had to split a cord of wood. You definitely feel it afterwards.

178 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:44:55am

re: #175 sattv4u2

Decorative mostly

The one we have is gas and isn’t designed to throw off much heat

:p Sounds like a waste of space. Why not just put up a plasma screen that shows a movie of a fire burning. Then you have the flexibility of using it to display other things.

179 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:45:42am

re: #175 sattv4u2

Decorative mostly

The one we have is gas and isn’t designed to throw off much heat

Our is gas and works so well, it messes with the thermostat and the upstairs freezes when we run it.

180 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:47:04am

We have to pay once a year to have it dismantled, cleaned and serviced.

Just isn’t the same.

181 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:47:25am

re: #177 thedopefishlives

This, right here, is why I haven’t actually used the fireplace in my current house. I’ve had to split a cord of wood. You definitely feel it afterwards.

My brother heats his home via a woodstove. He buys split wood, but also splits his own (about 1/2 of what he burns in a year.) Living on an acre or so of ash, hickory, maple, and a few oak generates sufficient dying trees to keep him supplied with stuff to cut down, saw up, dry, split and then burn. Not to mention an on-going supply of squirrels to annoy him.

182 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:49:15am

re: #181 oaktree

My brother heats his home via a woodstove. He buys split wood, but also splits his own (about 1/2 of what he burns in a year. Living on an acre or so of ash, hickory, maple, and a few oak generates sufficient dying trees to keep him supplied with stuff to cut down, saw up, dry, split and then burn. Not to mention an on-going supply of squirrels to annoy him.

My father-in-law has a wood stove that he would periodically heat his house with when he couldn’t afford to pay the heating oil bill. (He has since switched to natural gas.) Thankfully, he bought his wood already split. I could just imagine him rounding up all the young, strong sons and sons-in-law and having a wood-splitting party.

183 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:49:23am

In a former house, that had a fireplace, we had a woodpile in the back yard. One winter a wood rat decided to take up residence and would mess with the dogs. It became dangerous to get wood from the pile.

Exterminator was called.

Wood Rat is one nasty creature.

184 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:49:24am

re: #181 oaktree

My brother heats his home via a woodstove. He buys split wood, but also splits his own (about 1/2 of what he burns in a year.) Living on an acre or so of ash, hickory, maple, and a few oak generates sufficient dying trees to keep him supplied with stuff to cut down, saw up, dry, split and then burn. Not to mention an on-going supply of squirrels to annoy him.

So, burn the squirrels.:)

185 Simply Sarah  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:49:57am

re: #170 thedopefishlives

Probably. But then again, we always get a good laugh when we see traffic at a standstill in some Southern state because a single snowflake touched down somewhere. Here in Minnesnowta, the attitude is more like, “Hell, we’ll drive even crazier when the snow starts flying, because screw safety, that’s why.”

To be entirely fair, a large part of that is due to not having resources for dealing with snow/ice, since that gets expensive and it’s not really a great investment if you normally get snow once every 10 years. Up north, snow is a fact of life and setting aside funds and resources to deal with it are a given.

186 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:50:07am

re: #184 Cannadian Club Akbar

So, burn the squirrels.:)

No, they smell nasty while burning.

187 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:52:50am

re: #185 Simply Sarah

To be entirely fair, a large part of that is due to not having resources for dealing with snow/ice, since that gets expensive and it’s not really a great investment if you normally get snow once every 10 years. Up north, snow is a fact of life and setting aside funds and resources to deal with it are a given.

Oh, I know. But it still gives us a laugh. At the height of the “storm of the year” last December, I drove past the Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport on my way home from work. They had a gang of about 10 snowplows running side-by-side, clearing the active runway in a single pass. It was a seriously impressive display of organization.

188 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:52:58am

re: #184 Cannadian Club Akbar

So, burn the squirrels.:)

Mainly end up as cat food actually. With or without a preceeding case of lead poisoning.

189 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:54:36am

re: #185 Simply Sarah

To be entirely fair, a large part of that is due to not having resources for dealing with snow/ice, since that gets expensive and it’s not really a great investment if you normally get snow once every 10 years. Up north, snow is a fact of life and setting aside funds and resources to deal with it are a given.

Bingo.

The *really* fun areas are places like D.C. where they get enough to feel confident about driving like nuts on it without having enough snow to actually be competent driving in those conditions. Sounds a bit like government… ;)

190 darthstar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:55:50am

Gotta run…but I’ll leave you with some hints on how to speak Republican.

Ronald Reagan: A fictional character based loosely on President Ronald Reagan.

Some of my favs:

# Poverty: The condition of having inadequate financial or material resources due to not trying hard enough.
# Election: A method of selecting representatives, the fraudulence of which may be determined by the outcome.
# Elitist: Qualified.
# Endangered Species: Animals that have it coming.
# Medicare: A fraudulent, socialistic boondoggle that is sacrosanct.
# Mexicans: Brown people who have it coming.
# Mountaintops: Ancient rock formations that have it coming.
# Muslims: Brown people who have it coming.

191 sattv4u2  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 6:59:16am

re: #186 ggt

No, they smell nasty while burning.

Ya gotta take out the guts 1st!

192 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:00:44am

You’ll be pleased to hear I think I’ve found the answer to my Dodd-Frank question.

The Question: Why do I keep hearing from the rwnj’s in my life that Dodd-Frank is the reason we are in such an economic mess right now?

The Answer: The Volcker Rule.

What about the Rule has the banks in such an uproar? The draft was just published and it won’t be formally approved until January 2012. They are getting everyone in an uproar to try to get the changes they want approved.

The entire Rule is something like 268 pages, very little of which I care to research and understand. It is intended to “limit banks from investing in hedge funds and ban propriety trading” It only applies to institutions that have a certain amount of assets (IIRC).

Named after Paul A. Volcker, a former Federal Reserve chairman who championed the rule as part of Dodd-Frank, it would order banks to limit their investments in hedge funds and private equity shops.

More significant, the Volcker Rule would prohibit federally insured banks from trading for their own benefit rather than for clients, a strategy known as proprietary trading. The rule, Mr. Volcker and Democratic lawmakers say, will prevent banks from using their own capital to place bets while the government guarantees their deposits.

“Financial firms have been engaged in high-risk high-jinks that have threatened the U.S. and worldwide economy and economic recovery,” Senator Carl Levin, Democrat of Michigan, who co-sponsored the Volcker Rule in Congress, said on Wednesday. “The Volcker Rule is essential to protect taxpayers from banks’ excessive financial risk-taking, conflicts of interest, and from the resulting billion-dollar bailouts. I look forward to reviewing the proposed rule and hope the regulators reject efforts to weaken the law.”

Lobbists are must be working fervently:

Volcker Rule Will Hit Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley Hardest

193 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:02:03am

re: #192 ggt

Sounds like a reasonable rule.
Thanks for doing the hard work.
I was way too lazy.
:)

194 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:03:08am

re: #191 sattv4u2

Ya gotta take out the guts 1st!

ewwwww!

195 Simply Sarah  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:03:21am

re: #187 thedopefishlives

Oh, I know. But it still gives us a laugh. At the height of the “storm of the year” last December, I drove past the Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport on my way home from work. They had a gang of about 10 snowplows running side-by-side, clearing the active runway in a single pass. It was a seriously impressive display of organization.

True. But then you get places like my hometown, where I went back to visit a couple years back to discover that, yes, my parents actually were right and the city really had not done anything to treat the roads/ice rinks. I admit it took me a bit to remember you turn into a skid. And this is a large Massachusetts city. So even up north, things can go badly (With admittedly worse conditions than a few snowflakes).

196 sattv4u2  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:03:46am

re: #194 ggt

ewww!

Ya,,, you cook those separately!

197 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:04:02am

re: #194 ggt

ewww!

But if you take the bones out it wouldn’t be crunchy!

;)

198 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:05:16am

re: #197 oaktree

But if you take the bones out it wouldn’t be crunchy!

;)

crack, sizzle, pop?

199 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:05:55am

re: #195 Simply Sarah

True. But then you get places like my hometown, where I went back to visit a couple years back to discover that, yes, my parents actually were right and the city really had not done anything to treat the roads/ice rinks. I admit it took me a bit to remember you turn into a skid. And this is a large Massachusetts city. So even up north, things can go badly (With admittedly worse conditions than a few snowflakes).

Depending on the locale. I always have to laugh when I go back to fish country; in one county, they’re extremely good about keeping the roads cleared and salted. But as soon as you cross the county line, the roads are just complete crap.

200 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:06:31am

Slow cookin’ at its best!!
allrecipes.com

201 Simply Sarah  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:07:19am

re: #199 thedopefishlives

Depending on the locale. I always have to laugh when I go back to fish country; in one county, they’re extremely good about keeping the roads cleared and salted. But as soon as you cross the county line, the roads are just complete crap.

That’s basically what happened here. “Oh, things seem fine and clean. I don’t see what they were so worried abo- OH GOD IT’S SOLID ICE!”

202 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:07:46am

re: #195 Simply Sarah

True. But then you get places like my hometown, where I went back to visit a couple years back to discover that, yes, my parents actually were right and the city really had not done anything to treat the roads/ice rinks. I admit it took me a bit to remember you turn into a skid. And this is a large Massachusetts city. So even up north, things can go badly (With admittedly worse conditions than a few snowflakes).

Far enough north that it gets cold enough salt doesn’t work. Growing up in northern New York state the local roads did not get salt, or plowed down to pavement. Sand/cinders and simply plowed two-lanes wide. By spring there was 6” or so of packed snow/ice built up and piles on each side of the road 5’-6’ tall all through the village.

If it got real bad during the winter the giant snow blower went around and tossed the piles 10-15’ into the front yards. So when the thaw came you had extra sand, gravel, and often part of the curb sitting in your front yard. And all the intersections were small icy lakes since they thawed out first.

203 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:08:34am

re: #193 Varek Raith

Sounds like a reasonable rule.
Thanks for doing the hard work.
I was way too lazy.
:)

Thanks, I think there is a bit more to it than that. As Congress Critters have lots of money themselves, I don’t think it’s a long shot to say that some of them *might* have a personal stakes in the outcome and have *personal* reasons to write legislation to target certain banking entities.

I don’t know. I wouldn’t put it passed-them. With gridlock on Capital Hill, it seems as though there would be little “compromise” and it could be written to *punish* along Party lines. IIRC, there are some rumors about Frank making some money for himself along the way.

I have more research to do.

204 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:09:12am

re: #201 Simply Sarah

That’s basically what happened here. “Oh, things seem fine and clean. I don’t see what they were so worried abo- OH GOD IT’S SOLID ICE!”

Black Ice —the HORROR!

205 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:09:52am

re: #201 Simply Sarah

That’s basically what happened here. “Oh, things seem fine and clean. I don’t see what they were so worried abo- OH GOD IT’S SOLID ICE!”

Yeah. My mom took her Suburban for a little ride through a cornfield because of that. She crossed the county line, the road on the other side was sheened with black ice, and the next thing she knew, she’d jumped the ditch and was up on two wheels. Thankfully, she didn’t roll it and the only damage was a bent step rail.

206 Simply Sarah  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:09:53am

re: #202 oaktree

Far enough north that it gets cold enough salt doesn’t work. Growing up in northern New York state the local roads did not get salt, or plowed down to pavement. Sand/cinders and simply plowed two-lanes wide. By spring there was 6” or so of packed snow/ice built up and piles on each side of the road 5’-6’ tall all through the village.

If it got real bad during the winter the giant snow blower went around and tossed the piles 10-15’ into the front yards. So when the thaw came you had extra sand, gravel, and often part of the curb sitting in your front yard. And all the intersections were small icy lakes since they thawed out first.

Sounds fun. And not at all highly annoying.

But no, in this case, it seems it was just the city falling asleep at the wheel and/or foolishly trying to save money by not caring about roads being basically undrivable.

207 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:12:14am

re: #205 thedopefishlives

Yeah. My mom took her Suburban for a little ride through a cornfield because of that. She crossed the county line, the road on the other side was sheened with black ice, and the next thing she knew, she’d jumped the ditch and was up on two wheels. Thankfully, she didn’t roll it and the only damage was a bent step rail.

4-wheel drive =/= 4-wheel stop

And with black ice in general brakes are never the correct answer.

208 laZardo  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:12:41am

Headan to bed.

Apparently my youngest sibling may or may not be getting expelled before I graduate. Huh.

209 Simply Sarah  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:12:52am

re: #204 ggt

Black Ice —the HORROR!

Oh, this wasn’t even black ice (Which in many ways is a good thing, since people were more careful driving in this case). This was a nice smooth covering for the entire road surface.

Did I mention part of my route involved going down a semi-steep hill? With a stuck semi at the bottom? Good times.

210 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:15:40am

re: #209 Simply Sarah

Oh, this wasn’t even black ice (Which in many ways is a good thing, since people were more careful driving in this case). This was a nice smooth covering for the entire road surface.

Did I mention part of my route involved going down a semi-steep hill? With a stuck semi at the bottom? Good times.

With situations like that you don’t need sports to get your adrenaline pumping.

I don’t mind driving on snowy roads. I mind it when other people are driving on them at the same time!

211 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:16:58am

re: #209 Simply Sarah

Oh, this wasn’t even black ice (Which in many ways is a good thing, since people were more careful driving in this case). This was a nice smooth covering for the entire road surface.

Did I mention part of my route involved going down a semi-steep hill? With a stuck semi at the bottom? Good times.

I’ve always seen winter driving as an adventure. But, I’ve always had a vehicle that was safe for such driving.

The worst was a snow storm last year —visibility was zero, literally. I missed the turn into our subdivision after dark. It was safer to do a 3-point turn in the middle of the road that look for a suitable place because I couldn’t see anything. I had to judge the opening to our subdivision by light poles. Took me 1/2 an hour to cross the street. I really didn’t know if I was going to make it home or not. I wouldn’t have made it walking either —ACCROSS THE STREET!

212 Simply Sarah  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:21:09am

re: #211 ggt

I’ve always seen winter driving as an adventure. But, I’ve always had a vehicle that was safe for such driving.

The worst was a snow storm last year —visibility was zero, literally. I missed the turn into our subdivision after dark. It was safer to do a 3-point turn in the middle of the road that look for a suitable place because I couldn’t see anything. I had to judge the opening to our subdivision by light poles. Took me 1/2 an hour to cross the street. I really didn’t know if I was going to make it home or not. I wouldn’t have made it walking either —ACCROSS THE STREET!

Oh god. I would have been a nervous (And my car perhaps a physical) wreck if I had to deal with that! I think I get it from my mom, who tends to freak out over things. It’s the main reason I still drove home that night: I was used to her majorly overreacting to things and figured it couldn’t be nearly as bad as it was being made out to be (And even if it had been, it would have been treated, right?).

But yeah, I like not having the feeling that I need a half mile to stop. I’m sorta getting anxious just thinking about it.

213 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:22:31am

re: #211 ggt

I’ve always seen winter driving as an adventure. But, I’ve always had a vehicle that was safe for such driving.

The worst was a snow storm last year —visibility was zero, literally. I missed the turn into our subdivision after dark. It was safer to do a 3-point turn in the middle of the road that look for a suitable place because I couldn’t see anything. I had to judge the opening to our subdivision by light poles. Took me 1/2 an hour to cross the street. I really didn’t know if I was going to make it home or not. I wouldn’t have made it walking either —ACCROSS THE STREET!

I’m with you on this, I have fun with winter driving. I had two really fun times in last year’s snow. First one, I was driving through the big blizzard in my wife’s truck. It has 4-wheel drive, but the wide tires make it difficult to control even in 4-wheel mode. End result, I made it almost all the way home, and I was feeling good and anxious to finally get in, and I let myself get in slightly too much of a hurry. Pulled out onto the road, making a sweeping left turn… Kept turning, kept turning, and came to a stop in some guy’s driveway. Oops.

Second one was kinda like yours. I was driving home from my in-laws’ on New Year’s. Everything seemed fine for most of the trip, little light snow, no big deal. All of a sudden, WALL OF WHITE. I couldn’t even see the front end of my truck. A pair of taillights appeared in front of me. They moved off to the side of the road, then the guy pulled in behind me, because hey - I have a truck, clearly I must be better suited to whiteout conditions or something. About two miles down the road, just as suddenly as it started, everything cleared up. It was like someone flipped a switch. Most remarkable winter drive I’ve ever had.

214 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:25:22am

Winter driving SUCKS! Although it doesn’t suck as bad as it did before I got my 4-wheel-drive SUV.

215 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:26:18am

re: #214 Alouette

Winter driving SUCKS! Although it doesn’t suck as bad as it did before I got my 4-wheel-drive SUV.

I carry a tow rope and jumper cables in my wife’s truck at all times. I’ve had the passing thought of actually going up and down the highway during the first winter snow every year and offering to pull people out of ditches for a fee. Pretty sure local tow companies might have a problem with this, though.

216 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:27:50am

Was visiting a friend in Flagstaff who lived on the side of a hill. I got a good running start and made it most of the way, but then the car got stuck halfway into his driveway. I got out and was pondering whether to get people to help me push it in or back down and have another run.

At which point the truck started sliding down obn its own. Fortunately into the nearest tree, and not any further down, the damage was minimal…

217 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:28:22am

Alright. I’ve held my tongue on the subject of winter driving. But here goes. Ya know, sometimes the sun gets in your eyes here? And sometimes there is traffic, if not on the way to the beach, on the beach itself. And don’t even get me started on the bike riders.
I’ll shut up now.:)

218 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:29:58am

re: #212 Simply Sarah

Oh god. I would have been a nervous (And my car perhaps a physical) wreck if I had to deal with that! I think I get it from my mom, who tends to freak out over things. It’s the main reason I still drove home that night: I was used to her majorly overreacting to things and figured it couldn’t be nearly as bad as it was being made out to be (And even if it had been, it would have been treated, right?).

But yeah, I like not having the feeling that I need a half mile to stop. I’m sorta getting anxious just thinking about it.

Nah, it was fun.

219 Stanley Sea  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:30:45am

re: #217 Cannadian Club Akbar

Alright. I’ve held my tongue on the subject of winter driving. But here goes. Ya know, sometimes the sun gets in your eyes here? And sometimes there is traffic, if not on the way to the beach, on the beach itself. And don’t even get me started on the bike riders.
I’ll shut up now.:)

Same here. I’ll shut up about the So Cal apocalypse of 200 wrecks @ the first drizzle.

220 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:30:52am

re: #217 Cannadian Club Akbar

Alright. I’ve held my tongue on the subject of winter driving. But here goes. Ya know, sometimes the sun gets in your eyes here? And sometimes there is traffic, if not on the way to the beach, on the beach itself. And don’t even get me started on the bike riders.
I’ll shut up now.:)

We’ve had measurable snow twice in 25 years. Daughter still managed to strand her car in a doughnut shop parking lot.

221 Simply Sarah  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:31:22am

re: #218 ggt

Nah, it was fun.

For you, maybe! I’d be freaking out at the possibility of being sideswiped or something.

222 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:32:21am

re: #213 thedopefishlives

I’m with you on this, I have fun with winter driving. I had two really fun times in last year’s snow. First one, I was driving through the big blizzard in my wife’s truck. It has 4-wheel drive, but the wide tires make it difficult to control even in 4-wheel mode. End result, I made it almost all the way home, and I was feeling good and anxious to finally get in, and I let myself get in slightly too much of a hurry. Pulled out onto the road, making a sweeping left turn… Kept turning, kept turning, and came to a stop in some guy’s driveway. Oops.

Second one was kinda like yours. I was driving home from my in-laws’ on New Year’s. Everything seemed fine for most of the trip, little light snow, no big deal. All of a sudden, WALL OF WHITE. I couldn’t even see the front end of my truck. A pair of taillights appeared in front of me. They moved off to the side of the road, then the guy pulled in behind me, because hey - I have a truck, clearly I must be better suited to whiteout conditions or something. About two miles down the road, just as suddenly as it started, everything cleared up. It was like someone flipped a switch. Most remarkable winter drive I’ve ever had.

At one point, I tried to turn in the subdivision and couldn’t figure-out if I was on the road or on the park-way. I figured, well if I drive over the fence, I drive over the fence. It was the fence or me — my personal safety was at risk. Homeowner’s association will just have to understand, we both have insurance, that is what it is for.

I was on the road.

223 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:32:38am

re: #220 Decatur Deb

We’ve had measurable snow twice in 25 years. Daughter still managed to strand her car in a doughnut shop parking lot.

I had just moved to D.C. in 1988? when snow converted I-95 into a parking lot on Veteran’s Day.

224 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:33:47am

re: #221 Simply Sarah

For you, maybe! I’d be freaking out at the possibility of being sideswiped or something.

the roads were deserted. Which was scarier, because if I had a problem no one would find me.

225 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:33:53am

re: #223 oaktree

I had just moved to D.C. in 1988? when snow converted I-95 into a parking lot on Veteran’s Day.

Think I was TDY there for that—was it the year the Metro froze tight?

226 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:35:13am

re: #221 Simply Sarah

For you, maybe! I’d be freaking out at the possibility of being sideswiped or something.

Most of the time, the idiots are the ones that wind up stuck in the ditch and have to call the tow truck. By the time I’m out on the road, they’re all off of it in one fashion or another. ;)

227 Simply Sarah  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:35:29am

re: #224 ggt

the roads were deserted. Which was scarier, because if I had a problem no one would find me.

Well, they’d find you…eventually. Or, at least, your semi-frozen corpse somewhere under a snowbank at first thaw.

228 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:37:21am

re: #225 Decatur Deb

Think I was TDY there for that—was it the year the Metro froze tight?

Yea. Everything stuck in the yard. They learned from that though - since then they put trains in the tunnels, position plows and salt trucks in advance, etc. when a big storm is predicted.

I think I-95 itself was closed for at least 2-3 days. Looked like something from a apocalyptic movie (with snow added) from all the abandoned cars and trucks littering the hill (Oxen?) coming north from the Woodrow Wilson Bridge.

229 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:38:06am

re: #227 Simply Sarah

Well, they’d find you…eventually. Or, at least, your semi-frozen corpse somewhere under a snowbank at first thaw.

I had a cell phone, a 4WD Jeep, plenty of gas and was about 1/4 mile from the house.

As long as I wasn’t knocked unconscious, it would have worked out.

I was figuring all the scenerios. If I got stuck and had to ditch the Jeep, I’d have to call hubby and have him tie a rope to the house and come meet me on my way to the house with blankets.

HA!

230 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:39:07am

re: #223 oaktree

I had just moved to D.C. in 1988? when snow converted I-95 into a parking lot on Veteran’s Day.

My friend (who wants me to move to Maryland) got there 2 years ago, just before Snowzilla. Heh.

231 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:39:08am

re: #228 oaktree

Yea. Everything stuck in the yard. They learned from that though - since then they put trains in the tunnels, position plows and salt trucks in advance, etc. when a big storm is predicted.

I think I-95 itself was closed for at least 2-3 days. Looked like something from a apocalyptic movie (with snow added) from all the abandoned cars and trucks littering the hill (Oxen?) coming north from the Woodrow Wilson Bridge.

kewl!

I think it’s kinda neat when snow forces us to just stop everything. Everyone is in the same boat and we build snowmen. What else is there to do?

232 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:39:30am

Re #228

I was stuck there, and the Pentagon shut down. The Smithsonian didn’t, and there were about a dozen of us wandering around in it all day.

All this talk of snow, and I have to go out to finish planting the garden. (We pay for it in August, trust me.) BBL

233 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:41:23am

re: #229 ggt

I had a cell phone, a 4WD Jeep, plenty of gas and was about 1/4 mile from the house.

As long as I wasn’t knocked unconscious, it would have worked out.

I was figuring all the scenerios. If I got stuck and had to ditch the Jeep, I’d have to call hubby and have him tie a rope to the house and come meet me on my way to the house with blankets.

HA!

I got stuck in my own driveway once.

The snowplow had plowed me in, and I didn’t get the pile knocked down far enough. Got the rear axle hung up in the snow. Was highly embarrassing when I had to call the lady fish and get her to come pull me out.

234 Simply Sarah  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:41:34am

re: #231 ggt

kewl!

I think it’s kinda neat when snow forces us to just stop everything. Everyone is in the same boat and we build snowmen. What else is there to do?

Well, hopefully not have an emergency, I guess. That could be a problem.

I’m just a bundle of sunshine. aren’t I?
/

235 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:42:58am

re: #233 thedopefishlives

I got stuck in my own driveway once.

The snowplow had plowed me in, and I didn’t get the pile knocked down far enough. Got the rear axle hung up in the snow. Was highly embarrassing when I had to call the lady fish and get her to come pull me out.

During the Blizzard of 96, we got plowed in by almost nine feet of snow.
Needless to say, we didn’t go anywhere for some time.
Also, lost power for a week.
Fun.
/

236 Simply Sarah  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:44:17am

re: #235 Varek Raith

During the Blizzard of 96, we got plowed in by almost nine feet of snow.
Needless to say, we didn’t go anywhere for some time.
Also, lost power for a week.
Fun.
/

Well, that’s why you were warned about trying to live only on microwave dinners and popcorn.
/

237 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:45:27am

re: #236 Simply Sarah

Well, that’s why you were warned about trying to live only on microwave dinners and popcorn.

Heh.
Last time I ever live at the end of a cul-de-sac.

238 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:45:33am

re: #235 Varek Raith

During the Blizzard of 96, we got plowed in by almost nine feet of snow.
Needless to say, we didn’t go anywhere for some time.
Also, lost power for a week.
Fun.
/

I had to knock down a 6-foot snowdrift during the big spring blizzard back in Indiana. It was over my head at the time, but I had to get it knocked down far enough so that Dad could punch the truck out the driveway to get fuel for the generator.

239 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:45:51am

re: #237 Varek Raith

Heh.
Last time I ever live at the end of a cul-de-sac.

Yikes. Yeah, that’ll do it.

240 Simply Sarah  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:47:08am

re: #237 Varek Raith

Heh.
Last time I ever live at the end of a cul-de-sac.

Ah ha! That certainly helps explain your predicament.

241 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:49:04am

re: #237 Varek Raith

I live on a cul-de-sac and our town does a tremendous job of plowing. Not bad considering what we pay in taxes for the NYC metro area either. Other towns nearby that impose even higher taxes don’t do nearly as good a job plowing (and their roads are in even worse shape).

And all of this talk of snow has me thinking that we might be seeing some flakes in the NYC metro area this week.

242 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:49:54am

re: #239 thedopefishlives

Yikes. Yeah, that’ll do it.

We also got three to four feet of snow.
Sure was fun as a kid.
:)

243 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:52:12am

re: #241 lawhawk

I live on a cul-de-sac and our town does a tremendous job of plowing. Not bad considering what we pay in taxes for the NYC metro area either. Other towns nearby that impose even higher taxes don’t do nearly as good a job plowing (and their roads are in even worse shape).

And all of this talk of snow has me thinking that we might be seeing some flakes in the NYC metro area this week.

Can we have some in Chicagoland? pleez?

I didn’t even wear a coat this morning when I drove the kid to school.

244 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:53:21am

re: #233 thedopefishlives

I got stuck in my own driveway once.

The snowplow had plowed me in, and I didn’t get the pile knocked down far enough. Got the rear axle hung up in the snow. Was highly embarrassing when I had to call the lady fish and get her to come pull me out.

I got blocked into my street (a cul-de-sac) by a burning car one winter. That one took an interesting explanation to my boss once I got into work.

Heavy snow called for on the weekend so I parked my car (a Mazda 323 at the time) at the top of the driveway slope since I knew I wouldn’t get it out with loose snow there. Over the weekend I shoveled a few times to keep up with the accumulation and also clear out the plow pile. Sunday night was a 6”+ fall, and the plow buried the front of my car. At least there was a packed surface for the car to drive on. (My car handled packed snow fairly well but was nigh helpless in loose snow.)

I get up Monday morning, dress, go dig out the car, warm it up a bit, come back in, shower, and get dressed for work. While this is going on I hear the big Buick of my neighbor on the uphill side laboring up the hill towards the T-intersection at the top.

I come out and see the Buick still working the hill (but near the top). So I start up, pull out onto the road and get to the top fairly easily (low gear) and am there waiting for the Buick to clear the intersection. And it’s not moving, that’s a bit odd.

Then my neighbor gets out, walks back to me, and says “You might want to back down a bit - the car is on fire.” At point I spot the wisps of smoke/steam coming out from under the hood. So I back the car down and put it back in the driveway and walk up.

The Buick has an electrical fire going under the hood. They pop the hood, a bunch of smoke comes out, and then the relief valve on the radiator goes and it shoots hot antifreeze about 6’ off to the side of the car. A by-stander hoses the whole engine block down with a CO2 estinguisher. And everyone who needs to get out waits for the tow truck to arrive. (A few 4-wheel drive cars go around in the 8” of loose snow - but I knew my car wouldn’t make that.)

So I walk back down to the house and call my boss telling him I will be late. And fix a better breakfast.

245 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:53:24am

Now the city is real good and fast at clearing snow.
Bad for the kids.
Very few snow days.

246 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:54:47am

Zuccotti Park updates. Seems that the NYPD is being kept busy, not with the protests themselves, but by crimes in and among some of the protesters.

Two days after a man accused of assaulting three female protesters in Zuccotti Park was arrested, some friends of his threatened to kill the woman who had filed the complaint that led to the arrest, the police said on Tuesday.

One of the men accused of making the threats, Hasan Castillo, 23, of East Orange, N.J., was arrested Tuesday night.

The police said one of the men told the woman: “You had our friend arrested — we’re going to kill you. Watch your back.” The men are being sought for witness intimidation.

The initial assault occurred on Saturday, when Garfield Leslie, 19, of Brooklyn tried to sell cocaine to protesters, than attacked the three women, one of whom fell and broke her wrist and another of whom suffered a cut lip, the police said. He was arrested later that night.

By and large, the protesters have been trying to keep out the criminal element, but since anyone can join the protests and camp at the park, people who have no connections to the protests can fill in - including homeless and other less savory characters.

Yesterday, I saw a minor spat between a couple of protesters over placement of tents within the park - complaining that they were taking up space meant for someone else. I was also noticing that some of the flower beds are now getting trampled as those with tents are taking up more space within the park, and those in sleeping bags are being pushed off towards the raised planting beds along the side of the park. Police have also cordoned off the area surrounding the sculpture that some yahoo climbed over the weekend. That area had been a gathering/focus point for protesters along Broadway.

247 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:54:55am

re: #245 Varek Raith

Now the city is real good and fast at clearing snow.
Bad for the kids.
Very few snow days.

I remember watching the TV, anxiously waiting to see my school on the list of closed schools. ahhh … .

248 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:55:43am

re: #247 ggt

I remember watching the TV, anxiously waiting to see my school on the list of closed schools. ahhh …

TV? LUXURY! I had to listen on the radio.

249 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:55:59am

re: #246 lawhawk

Homeless men pissed the protesters are taking his space?

250 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:56:09am

re: #247 ggt

I remember watching the TV, anxiously waiting to see my school on the list of closed schools. ahhh …

Schools were out for almost three weeks during that storm.
Fun for me!

251 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:56:56am

re: #250 Varek Raith

Schools were out for almost three weeks during that storm.
Fun for me!

I didn’t know that Force Powers included weather control skills.

252 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:57:20am

re: #245 Varek Raith

Albany NY would have few snow days - and those would come if there were 12+ inches of snow in a short period of time. NYC also had only a few snow days, and it would take more than a foot/blizzard to force closures.

Yet, once you go down towards Philly and south, 6 inches is sufficient to shut schools and areas for days on end.

253 sattv4u2  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:57:41am

You’re all WIMPS wrt to the snow
en.wikipedia.org

While a typical nor’easter brings steady snow for six to twelve hours, the Blizzard of ‘78 brought heavy snow for an unprecedented full 33 hours

I was 25 at the time

254 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:58:56am

re: #250 Varek Raith

Schools were out for almost three weeks during that storm.
Fun for me!

I was never that lucky. The Detroit area was well-prepared for school. Once we were out for a week because the boiler at school failed during a power-outage. The building was too cold to have classes.

255 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:59:47am

re: #181 oaktree

My brother heats his home via a woodstove. He buys split wood, but also splits his own (about 1/2 of what he burns in a year.) Living on an acre or so of ash, hickory, maple, and a few oak generates sufficient dying trees to keep him supplied with stuff to cut down, saw up, dry, split and then burn. Not to mention an on-going supply of squirrels to annoy him.

Does your brother know you are an oaktree?!? :O

256 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:00:33am

re: #253 sattv4u2

You call that a blizzard!!!
fcit.usf.edu

257 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:01:04am

re: #249 ggt

Nope - protesters pissed at other protesters taking their space. Guy in sleeping bag takes up less space than guy in tent. Guy now gets tent - and pushes into space that other guy used to have.

More tents = less people in park. That’s compounded by the weather, which is turning colder.

258 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:01:20am

re: #254 ggt

I was never that lucky. The Detroit area was well-prepared for school. Once we were out for a week because the boiler at school failed during a power-outage. The building was too cold to have classes.

It took a week to restore power to about half the city and another week to the rest. Then they did roof inspections of the schools.

259 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:01:35am

re: #256 Cannadian Club Akbar

You call that a blizzard!!!
[Link: fcit.usf.edu…]

I wouldn’t have bothered with the scraper for that little amount—just use the windshield wipers!

geez

:0

260 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:02:06am

re: #259 ggt

I wouldn’t have bothered with the scraper for that little amount—just use the windshield wipers!

geez

:0

True, but this is Florida.
;)

261 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:03:25am

re: #253 sattv4u2

I remember the blizzard of 77 - we had massive snow drifts and the Sanitation Department stacked snow 20 feet high at the corner of our block. It made for awesome sledding.

I was in Albany for the blizzard of 93, and it was a minor inconvenience at most.

I was in NJ for the most recent snowpocalypses, and they too were a minor inconvenience. They do a much better job of snow removal these days, notwithstanding the awful response in NYC during the December blizzard that can be laid at the feet of Bloomberg for not declaring a state of emergency to get cars off the road to give sanitation crews a chance at clearing primary roads.

262 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:06:29am

re: #261 lawhawk

I remember the blizzard of 77 - we had massive snow drifts and the Sanitation Department stacked snow 20 feet high at the corner of our block. It made for awesome sledding.

There was a pile of snow out in front of the Sears here in St. Paul that lasted until June. It was a pretty serious mountain during the winter.

263 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:06:41am

Heh. Zombie celebrities/politicians.

Among those depicted? Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Barack Obama, Kim Kardashian, Mike Bloomberg, etc.

264 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:08:16am

Possible blizzard, Florida style…
/
accuweather.com

265 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:09:45am

re: #263 lawhawk

Heh. Zombie celebrities/politicians.

Among those depicted? Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Barack Obama, Kim Kardashian, Mike Bloomberg, etc.

BRAINZ!
COFFEE!

BRB!
:)

266 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:10:26am

re: #253 sattv4u2

You’re all WIMPS wrt to the snow
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

While a typical nor’easter brings steady snow for six to twelve hours, the Blizzard of ‘78 brought heavy snow for an unprecedented full 33 hours

I was 25 at the time

Growing up the blizzards didn’t draw that much of an additional reaction. We usually had snow on the ground from late October or early November until March or April. Not a lot of snow on average (40-48” as compared to the amounts Syracuse or Buffalo get due to the lakes), but it stayed cold enough that it never melted and just accumulated until the thaw. So a blizzard coming through (or a front via Canada) just added more to the pile. School wouldn’t get canceled unless the visibility and/or ice conditions were bad enough to make it risky for the school buses to be out.

And we had a few days with the furnaces down in high school. Wore your coats to class and the chemistry teacher had all the Bunsen burners going in an attempt to warm the room slightly.

Three types of people lived there:
1. Winter sports folk who dressed and knew how to handle the weather
2. Folk who cocooned up and stayed indoors for 4-5 months (rare)
3. Folk who were in Florida

267 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:10:29am

re: #246 lawhawk

The lawlessness of the camps seems to be a more serious problem than I first thought. Our camp in Portland has problems too and crime, assaults, etc seem to be the motivating factor in closing down the Oakland camp. In Oakland the authorities bent over backwards to accommodate the protesters and were at first supportive but the safety situation was spiraling out of control.

268 allegro  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:11:34am

re: #243 ggt

Can we have some in Chicagoland? pleez?

I didn’t even wear a coat this morning when I drove the kid to school.

I just want to be able to turn off the air conditioning. We’ll get another near 90 degree day today. Shouldn’t complain since it isn’t over 100 but I’m ready for what we call “fall” here. S’posed to get a cool front tomorrow that will be great - temps in the mid to high 70s during the day for a few days until summer no doubt returns.

269 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:12:15am

BTW it looks like the Oakland PD lied when they said they weren’t using flashbangs….
Occupy Oakland - Flashbangs USED on protesters OPD LIES

270 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:13:25am

re: #263 lawhawk

Heh. Zombie celebrities/politicians.

Among those depicted? Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Barack Obama, Kim Kardashian, Mike Bloomberg, etc.

They wanted Joan Rivers for that spread, but no one could tell the difference between the zombie and non-zombie versions…
//

271 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:15:23am

re: #269 Killgore Trout

I got your flash grenade right here!!
///

Everyone just relax, it’s a joke

272 garhighway  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:15:45am

Greetings from the Acela on the NE Corridor. (which has really slow wi-fi)

Manhattan during or immediately after a blizzard is pretty cool: you can walk (or ski) down the middle of Broadway undisturbed by vehicles. Everything is quiet. It is spooky and cool at the same time.

273 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:15:47am

*shambles in* Brrraaaiiinnnsss…

274 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:16:39am

re: #271 Cannadian Club Akbar

I got your flash grenade right here!!
///

[Video]Everyone just relax, it’s a joke

Yeah, well, he deserved it.
Damn Canadian.
///

275 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:17:25am

re: #274 Varek Raith

Yeah, well, he deserved it.
Damn Canadian.
///

#occupystanleycup

276 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:17:35am

re: #272 garhighway

Greetings from the Acela on the NE Corridor. (which has really slow wi-fi)

Manhattan during or immediately after a blizzard is pretty cool: you can walk (or ski) down the middle of Broadway undisturbed by vehicles. Everything is quiet. It is spooky and cool at the same time.

I concur. I’ve gotten to walk around Pittsburgh a few times during snow storms. The litter is covered up. The falling snow deadens the noise. And there are not moving cars everywhere.

277 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:19:09am

I’ll be meeting up with a friend who is part of Occupy OKC on Friday. I will be able to give my view of my local scion.

278 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:19:27am

re: #272 garhighway

Yes, there’s a certain stillness and serenity of everything draped in a fresh blanket of white snow. Within hours, it turns to mush, but those first few hours are amazing. Watching people cross country skiing down major avenues in Manhattan, or just watching in wonder at the scenery. Always fun.

279 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:19:51am

re: #271 Cannadian Club Akbar

I was just reading on the situation in Oakland.
Occupy Oakland: More than 100 arrested; police defend tactics

Two officers were injured in the clashes, Jordan said. He said he did not know how many demonstrators may have been hurt.

In an interview with KTVU-TV Channel 2, Officer David Carman said he had been hit by paintballs and more.

“The crowd started throwing bottles, paints, beer, eggs at myself and the other officers,” he said.

But some activists criticized the police tactics.

From the video you can see the paitball residue on some of the cops. That’s amazingly dangerous to fire a gun-like object at police from a crowd like that. That could easily get people killed.

280 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:26:04am

Alrighty. I need a walk. BBIAB.:)

281 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:27:16am

Paintball sploshes
daylife.com
You just can’t do that. pointing and firing a gun at police is a very bad idea. They have no way to know if it’s a paintgun or not. They can legally shoot you for that.

282 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:29:34am

re: #281 Killgore Trout

Paintball sploshes
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
You just can’t do that. pointing and firing a gun at police is a very bad idea. They have no way to know if it’s a paintgun or not. They can legally shoot you for that.

Are there alternative methods of firing paintballs?

Odds are it was people being thoughtless idiots. But presumably someone could also think it through, decide that a gun-like object was not a good idea, and come up with another way to fling the payload.

283 garhighway  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:35:00am

OT: Just saw one of those big military transport jets fly overhead. Damn that thing’s BIG!

284 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:35:57am

bbiab

285 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:36:26am

re: #281 Killgore Trout

That looks like a whole lot more paint than from a couple of paintballs. Maybe someone was going to toss paint from a can.

No way to tell from the photos.

Firing a paintball from a gun at a crowd of police in riot gear is a sure way to get them to fire at you in return - and not necessarily with nonlethal ammo either (teargas, flash bangs, rubber bullets, beanbag shot, etc.)

Still, it’s a far cry from the NYPD that hasn’t used riot gear in trailing the protest crowds in NYC.

286 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:38:47am

re: #285 lawhawk

Typo in your new Page: take the “tra” out of “contraception” in the third line of text.

287 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:38:51am

re: #282 oaktree

Are there alternative methods of firing paintballs?

Odds are it was people being thoughtless idiots. But presumably someone could also think it through, decide that a gun-like object was not a good idea, and come up with another way to fling the payload.

Throwing things at police is bad enough and is a quick way to get your ass kicked. The bottles and rocks are one thing but pointing a weapon at an armed officer is just shockingly stupid.

288 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:48:07am

re: #285 lawhawk

That looks like a whole lot more paint than from a couple of paintballs. Maybe someone was going to toss paint from a can.

No way to tell from the photos.

Firing a paintball from a gun at a crowd of police in riot gear is a sure way to get them to fire at you in return - and not necessarily with nonlethal ammo either (teargas, flash bangs, rubber bullets, beanbag shot, etc.)

Still, it’s a far cry from the NYPD that hasn’t used riot gear in trailing the protest crowds in NYC.

Breitbart has video of the paint.
Cops brutalize Occupy Oakland protesters, get paintballed

Looks like it was thrown, not fired from a paintball gun.

289 sattv4u2  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:52:26am

re: #288 Killgore Trout

They cleared Woodruff Park in Atlanta late last night/ early this morning

The Mayor of Atlanta Kasim Reed had set and moved the deadline for the “occupiers” to leave a couple of times

Reed said Monday he wouldn’t evict Occupy Atlanta from the park until a group of clergy met with the demonstrators to try to work out a solution.

the clergy members tried to engage protesters and were rebuffed
“No one’s really listening to me,” said the Rev. Darrell Elligan, pastor of the True Light Baptist Church, following his meeting late Tuesday afternoon with Occupy Atlanta representatives.

290 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:53:50am

re: #289 sattv4u2

They cleared Woodruff Park in Atlanta late last night/ early this morning

The Mayor of Atlanta Kasim Reed had set and moved the deadline for the “occupiers” to leave a couple of times

Reed said Monday he wouldn’t evict Occupy Atlanta from the park until a group of clergy met with the demonstrators to try to work out a solution.

the clergy members tried to engage protesters and were rebuffed
“No one’s really listening to me,” said the Rev. Darrell Elligan, pastor of the True Light Baptist Church, following his meeting late Tuesday afternoon with Occupy Atlanta representatives.

Of course they didn’t listen to him. They’re liberal-commie-mooselims! The city needed to send a iman instead!
///

291 sattv4u2  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:58:36am

re: #290 oaktree

Of course they didn’t listen to him. They’re liberal-commie-mooselims! The city needed to send a iman instead!
///

Either that, or
Image: Crosby-Stills-and-Nash300.jpg

292 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:00:18am

Another vaporware campaign: Bachmann has to physically mail the paperwork to get on the NH ballot instead of delivering it herself or having her staff do it. Of course, her staff in NH quit last week, so there’s no staff to do that work.

In keeping with the scant attention she has paid to New Hampshire, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann has signed up by mail to get on the state’s presidential primary ballot instead of showing up in person or having someone else do it for her.
Though Bachmann could have traveled to New Hampshire herself, sending a staffer wasn’t an option after all five of her paid New Hampshire staffers quit last week, complaining that they were kept out of the loop and treated rudely by her national campaign team.

Kind of like the scant attention she’s given to reality.

293 jaunte  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:01:17am

ProgressTX tweets:
BREAKING: Perry comes out against TX confederate flag. A HUGE win for ProgressTX & the 22,000+who signed the petition. bit.ly/t4rU3A

294 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:07:27am

re: #293 jaunte

ProgressTX tweets:
BREAKING: Perry comes out against TX confederate flag. A HUGE win for ProgressTX & the 22,000+who signed the petition. bit.ly/t4rU3A

Huh. I wonder whether that will send more of his supporters to Cain.

295 garhighway  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:07:40am

re: #292 lawhawk

Another vaporware campaign: Bachmann has to physically mail the paperwork to get on the NH ballot instead of delivering it herself or having her staff do it. Of course, her staff in NH quit last week, so there’s no staff to do that work.

Kind of like the scant attention she’s given to reality.

She used the US Mail? Those commie-union-thugs?

Wow. She IS desperate.

296 bratwurst  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:07:44am

re: #293 jaunte

ProgressTX tweets:
BREAKING: Perry comes out against TX confederate flag. A HUGE win for ProgressTX & the 22,000+who signed the petition. bit.ly/t4rU3A

Wow…he was only “kidding around” about Obama’s birth certificate as well! We sure do have quite the group of comedians going for the GOP nomination.

297 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:09:41am

re: #292 lawhawk

Another vaporware campaign: Bachmann has to physically mail the paperwork to get on the NH ballot instead of delivering it herself or having her staff do it. Of course, her staff in NH quit last week, so there’s no staff to do that work.

Kind of like the scant attention she’s given to reality.

Let’s hope she sends it to the right Lexington…

298 jaunte  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:09:43am

re: #294 wrenchwench

He said he opposes a proposal in Texas to create a license plate featuring the Confederate flag: “We don’t need to be scraping old wounds.”

Maybe not. It’s a pretty low-key statement of opposition.

299 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:11:57am

Amy Winehouse died from massive alcohol poisoning

The legal limit for operating an automobile in the U.K. is 80 milligrams of alcohol per 100 milliliters of blood. Winehouse’s blood-alcohol content at the time of her death: 416 milligrams, over five times the legal limit, Reuters reports. Depending on body type, a blood-alcohol content of 350 milligrams is when fatal alcohol poisoning could occur. Winehouse’s ability to imbibe freely was reduced significantly after the singer quit drinking entirely in July, so when the sudden flood of alcohol reentered her system, the shock was too much for her body to handle. The toxicology report also confirmed that no illegal substances were found in the singer’s system at the time of her death.

300 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:12:13am

re: #297 ralphieboy

The right Concord, you mean.

There are quite a few:

MA. NH. CA. NC. and New South Wales (hey, it’s Bachmann, so you never know)

301 Flounder  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:12:24am

re: #282 oaktree
blowguns can shoot paintballs (using your mouth and all)

302 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:13:53am

re: #301 Shropshire_Slasher

blowguns can shoot paintballs (using your mouth and all)

I presume slingshots would work as well.

More likely in this case would be something like a paint balloon?

303 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:14:08am

re: #299 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Amy Winehouse died from massive alcohol poisoning

So sad.

304 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:14:27am

Perry says it was a ‘mistake’ for him to participate in 2012 debates

“These debates are set up for nothing more than to tear down the candidates. It’s pretty hard to be able to sit and lay out your ideas and your concepts with a one-minute response,” the Texas governor told Fox News’s Bill O’Reilly. “So, you know, if there was a mistake made, it was probably ever doing one of the [debates], when all they’re interested in is stirring up between the candidates instead of really talking about the issues that are important to the American people.”

Being a blithering idiot probably doesn’t help much either.

305 Kronocide  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:14:35am

re: #293 jaunte

ProgressTX tweets:
BREAKING: Perry comes out against TX confederate flag. A HUGE win for ProgressTX & the 22,000+who signed the petition. bit.ly/t4rU3A

Texas governor Rick Perry clarified Wednesday that he has no doubt that Barack Obama was born in the U.S., saying that he was only kidding around when he voiced doubts in a TV interview earlier this week.

It’s clear that a neo messaging tactic is to infer or say something in support of one position but later say you were joking when called upon it. You get to play both sides since you have a soundbyte for both sides.

I’m getting tired of politicians ‘just joking.’ The joke is on us.

306 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:15:21am

Have a great afternoon all!

I have to got to the dentist.

307 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:17:17am

re: #304 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Perry says it was a ‘mistake’ for him to participate in 2012 debates


Being a blithering idiot probably doesn’t help much either.

Wait, Perry wants to actually sit down and discuss policy in an meaningful manner? RINO!
/

308 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:18:27am

John Stewart: The First Rule of Right Club - Don’t talk about Right Club!

Last night on Comedy Central’s The Daily Show, host Jon Stewart drew attention to Pat Robertson’s claim, first reported by Right Wing Watch, that the Republican base is pushing the GOP presidential candidates to take such extreme positions that they may jeopardize their prospects in the general election. After playing a montage of Robertson’s own radical beliefs, Stewart noted that Robertson didn’t disagree with the Republican field, he simply didn’t want the candidates to advertise their far-right views: “Not the things you are saying or wrong or bad policy or callous or crazy, but that you’re right, but let’s just keep those our little secret,” Stewart said, “What he’s telling the GOP field is this, if you tell people what you honestly believe, an electoral majority of those people will freak the f—- out. He’s saying the first rule of Right Club—don’t talk about Right Club.”

309 Gus  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:18:47am

re: #294 wrenchwench

Huh. I wonder whether that will send more of his supporters to Cain.

Is it possible to die from irony?

310 Kronocide  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:18:58am

re: #298 jaunte

Maybe not. It’s a pretty low-key statement of opposition.

I wonder what his answer would be before Painted (White) (African American) Head Rock.

But seriously, I dig a sense of humor as much as anybody else. A candidate can show one, there will be many times and places to do so. But this proliferation of ‘I was joking’ is outright pandering then backing up so you can play both sides. It’s making amends without having to say or be sorry.

311 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:19:55am

re: #309 Gus 802

Is it possible to die from irony?

Nope, only from irony deficiency!

312 Lidane  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:20:04am

re: #304 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Perry says it was a ‘mistake’ for him to participate in 2012 debates

Being a blithering idiot probably doesn’t help much either.

The worst thing to happen to Rick Perry’s plans to become POTUS was being forced to debate, and to answer questions.

If anyone ever wondered why he never debates his opponents here in Texas, now you know the answer.

313 Gus  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:20:21am

Power is still out here. The idiots at Xcel Energy (puke) say it won’t be back on until 3:40 PM. It’s cold. Stupid storm broke a lot of branches. Yeah, I’m thinking about how this country spends its money and how these wires should be underground. Another day in Honduras with snow.

314 Kronocide  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:21:09am

re: #308 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It’s a sad state that a satirist is our most concise current events reporter.

315 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:23:43am

re: #314 BigPapa

It’s a sad state that a satirist is our most concise current events reporter.

QFT! Really, the whole system is ripe for comedic exploitation. And, if we can’t laugh at ourselves, it would be a horrible situation.

316 Flounder  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:27:14am

re: #313 Gus 802
yeah well if those commie leftists would let the energy company cut down a couple of trees, you wouldn’t have to lose power!
/

318 Gus  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:29:09am

re: #316 Shropshire_Slasher

yeah well if those commie leftists would let the energy company cut down a couple of trees, you wouldn’t have to lose power!
/

Heh. The libertarians would be crying private property rights for the home owners. Actually, I think the commies would want to cut down those trees first. At least some real commies and not the garden variety American commie with an advanced degree.

//

319 Kronocide  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:31:05am

re: #308 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I Rec’d that to Charles, really good stuff. Stewart FTW.

What’s ironic is I recall one of Limbaugh’s cherished truisms is that ‘candidates need to be more conservative, not less. That’s how you win elections.’ He said this many times and I wonder if he still does.

Maybe he agrees with Robertson?

320 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:31:18am

re: #313 Gus 802

We have that debate in the NYC metro area all the time. While this is from a NC utility, the stats are similar to what I recall PSEG and Con Ed saying. The utilities say that the underground lines cost 8-10 times more than the overhead lines (which gets passed on to the user), and that flooding rains can end up causing even more problems - and it takes longer to restore power after those than overhead lines. Older underground lines end up being more expensive to maintain/upgrade, while overhead lines can be maintained and upgraded more easily.

What it really takes is a better and more aggressive tree trimming programs to cut back trees that might damage power lines - and some utilities do a better job than others. Better tech (including using distributed solar as in PSEG) also mitigates problems by identifying areas with power issues and routing around them.

321 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:32:44am

re: #319 BigPapa

I Rec’d that to Charles, really good stuff. Stewart FTW.

What’s ironic is I recall one of Limbaugh’s cherished truisms is that ‘candidates need to be more conservative, not less. That’s how you win elections.’ He said this many times and I wonder if he still does.

Maybe he agrees with Robertson?

“Christine O’Donnell is 35 points behind in the polls, but she can still win because she’s the only conservative in the race”!

322 jaunte  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:33:26am

re: #308 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Second Rule of Right Club:
“If you get caught making a statement of what you really believe,
claim you were joking.”

323 Gus  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:33:54am

re: #320 lawhawk

Whatever they do they just need to do it. I have another idea then. They need stop fucking talking about it and get on the ball. Apply that to everything. That’s all we do anymore as a nation. All talk and no action.

Yeah, I’m kind of pissed.

Banana country.

324 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:34:53am

re: #322 jaunte

The Second Rule of Right Club:
“If you get caught making a statement of what you really believe,
claim you were joking.”

Actually John said the second rule was “If you want to fuck a duck, make sure it consents.”

325 freetoken  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:34:59am

re: #317 Lidane

Tea Party Nation is at it again:

Pat Buchanan’s not a racist! The real racists are the black people pointing out that Pat’s a racist!

Yup. The Tea Partiers are finally out of the closet (as if they were ever really hiding in there in the beginning) with their support of the odious and flagrant racists like Buchanan and James Edwards and the rest.

I’m wondering if any of the Tea Partying GOP candidates - Bachmann, Perry, Cain - will ever be held to the fire on this strand of American polity they are so willingly embracing?

326 Gus  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:35:07am

Battery’s going. Later. And remember. If you can’t fix your own country find another country to vilify and start a war with them.

BBL

327 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:37:26am

re: #7 Sergey Romanov

[Link: thinkprogress.org…]

Apparently Rachel Abrams, one of the ECI founders, issues calls to murder on a daily basis.

Bleah.

Of course, also, I’m curious about what ‘neocon’ means in this case.

Can I have two ‘bleahs’? More?

328 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:37:41am

Tennessee Agency Charges 86-Year Old Veteran An Unconstitutional Poll Tax To Obtain Voter ID

World War II veteran Darwin Spinks went to a testing center last month to get a photo ID for voting purposes. Under the law, any resident without a photo ID is supposed to get one free of charge. But when Spinks asked for an ID, he was told he had to pay an $8 fee:

Spinks said Tuesday he needed the photo because when his driver’s license with a photo expired the last time, the driver testing center issued him a new license without a photo on it. State law allows people over 60 to get a non-photo driver’s license.

The retired print shop worker who moved here 17 years ago said he told people at the driver center he wanted an ID for voting purposes. He was sent from one line to another to have a picture taken, then was charged.

“I said, ‘You mean I’ve got to pay again?’ She says, ‘Yes,’” explained Spinks, a resident of County Farm Road, who was stationed on the USS Goshen in World War II and was called to duty again for the Korean War.

329 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:37:57am

re: #8 Sergey Romanov

Rachel’s blogroll:

Well, Elliot Abrams is her husband—I think she’s pretty much got to keep him on her blogroll.

330 Flounder  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:38:13am

Scott Ritter might get off again:
timesunion.com

331 Kronocide  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:41:31am

re: #317 Lidane

Tea Party Nation is at it again:

Pat Buchanan’s not a racist! The real racists are the black people pointing out that Pat’s a racist!

I Rec’d that to Charles too. Should be a rich day on LGF!

332 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:41:36am

re: #53 Slumbering Behemoth

One of the things that constantly puzzles me are people who are shocked by robbery in their quiet, safe neighborhoods.

You see it on the news all the time… “You don’t expect this sort of thing to happen in such a good area.”

You don’t? Poor people don’t rob each other, dumbass. They go where the gettin’s good.

The only time you hear of a robbery in a shitty part of town is when someone robs a dealer.

Not necessarily. For a big haul, sure, the nice places. For money for a quick fix…the neighbors will do.

Friend of mine was living in the San Francisco projects when some knucklehead actually punched through the wall, reached in, and unlocked the door from the inside while she was at work. They got some electronics and random stuff.

The only thing she got back were some blues CDs, which some idiot kid tried to sell to her out front of the building. She took them, told him off, and stomped back inside.

333 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:44:01am

re: #54 laZardo

It’s like that joke where the ‘hood schools are always getting shot up, but you only hear of the Columbines because the kids actually take the time to aim.

//yeah, i’m dead inside

That’s not why. :(

I remember that back when school shootings were constantly in the news, they pointed out that all the perps were white—how come?

That same week I saw someone wonder about that on a TV show, a young black teenager went to his urban high school with a gun and shot a few people before they managed to disarm him. When asked why, he said he’d been bullied by some guys, and a girl had broken up with him.

The paper suggested it might be ‘gang related’.

334 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:47:26am

re: #96 ralphieboy

It’s your party, you can dis-invite anyone you want to. Is dressing up as a Scotsman okay? How about as a Bavarian in Lederhosen? I read that even witch costumes were frowned upon in Britain as “propagating sterotypes about wiccans”.

Please, we need clear guidelines here so as to be able to celebrate a fun and nonetheless PC Hallowe’en.

“Do you have a reasonable expectation that someone will punch you, or really want to, if you show up in the costume you have in mind? Would they be justified in doing so, if they did?”

To my mind, this standard leaves out blackface, but leaves in Lederhosen.

And all the Wiccans I know would laugh their asses off at the idea that witch costumes were bad—but the Wiccans I know are a self-selecting group who haven’t pissed me off with too much sanctimony over the years.

335 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:47:33am

re: #333 SanFranciscoZionist

That same week I saw someone wonder about that on a TV show, a young black teenager went to his urban high school with a gun and shot a few people before they managed to disarm him. When asked why, he said he’d been bullied by some guys, and a girl had broken up with him.

The paper suggested it might be ‘gang related’.

Because he probably had relatives who were gang members?

336 jaunte  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:48:56am

Amazing photo of Orion Nebula:

Phil Plait: What I like about this image is how obviously it shows that the nebula is actually a giant cavity in space. The actual cloud is far larger than what you see here, very dense and dark. But many stars are forming in the heart of the Orion Nebula, and a handful of them are massive and hot. Their ultraviolet radiation has flooded the interior of the cloud, eating away at it, carving out a huge divot light years across, and lighting it up. What you’re seeing here is more tenuous gas filling that cavity.

337 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:49:09am

Am I the only idiot that still lives where it snows this early in the fall??
I really have to re-asses WTF I’m doing here!!
How is everyone…..?
Get your Christmas shopping done??

339 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:53:19am

Ruth Buzzi cracks me up again.

Our local fast food provider started making sandwiches from Grade A Ground Butt Roast. That resulted in an outbreak of Assburgers Syndrome.

340 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:54:04am

re: #339 wrenchwench

Ruth Buzzi cracks me up again.

That was a South Park episode a couple of weeks ago.

341 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:55:24am

re: #340 Alouette

That was a South Park episode a couple of weeks ago.

Oh, no! Shattered illusions!

342 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:55:31am
343 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:57:10am

re: #335 ralphieboy

Because he probably had relatives who were gang members?

Could be. But it was in a week when school shootings were Big News, it fit the profile, and somehow it seemed like a totally different thing to the newspersons.

344 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:57:21am

re: #338 Alouette

The holocaust industry again.

“As the Holocaust becomes more distant, the fear for Israel’s existence drops.

It’s a shame to see this theme appearing more often these days.

345 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:57:42am
346 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:58:30am

re: #338 Alouette

“This can’t possibly be Anti-Semitic because it appeared in an Israeli news source!”

Massive, massive FAIL.

Also, Jews arrived in the United States ‘some hundred years ago’? Benjamin Cardozo and Emma Lazarus would be interested to hear about that. As would Asser Levy.

347 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:58:32am

re: #338 Alouette

It shows that Jewish people have embraced the American Dream: hard work and determination have led to economic success. Why is that “Anti-Semitic”?

Because it incites jealousy or a desire to “Take back what is ours”?

348 makeitstop  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:59:05am

This morning I attended a funeral mass for a dear friend - a fellow musician, music historian, life-long non-conformist, and an extremely gifted entertainer. The church was standing room only as his friends, family, fans and band mates turned out to pay their respects.

If there’s a Heaven, he probably just started his first set and he’s no doubt already wowing them.

He was one person who enriched the lives of everyone he came into contact with. I will miss him terribly.

349 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 9:59:15am

re: #344 Killgore Trout

The holocaust industry again.

It’s a shame to see this theme appearing more often these days.

Nonsense! It is not appearing more often! It is not appearing at all! Propaganda! Propaganda! How dare you, sir!!!

///

350 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 10:01:07am

re: #349 SanFranciscoZionist

Nonsense! It is not appearing more often! It is not appearing at all! Propaganda! Propaganda! How dare you, sir!!!

///

Damn that moon lander on the grassy knoll!

351 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 10:05:08am

Color of Change also called The Political Cesspool “white nationalist,” and the show, which is hosted by “Racism, Schmacism” author James Edwards, certainly does not do much to dispute that label. It it pro-secession and “against homosexuality, vulgarity, loveless sex, and masochism.”

Sadism, however, as long as it’s in a caring heterosexual relationship in which no one cusses, is apparently all right.

But how’s that gonna work out, with no masochists allowed?

Also what does ‘pro-secession’ mean? Just on general principles?

352 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 10:06:27am

re: #347 ralphieboy

It shows that Jewish people have embraced the American Dream: hard work and determination have led to economic success. Why is that “Anti-Semitic”?

Because it incites jealousy or a desire to “Take back what is ours”?

This article mentions the names of several billionaires of Jewish ethnic background, then calculates the percentage of Jews in the “1%” compared to other ethnic/religious groups. Why is it “anti-Semitic” when Adbusters does the same thing but not when YNet does it?

Now YNet has made “Jew-counting” NOT “Anti-Semitic”

Occupy Wall Street has made it clear that “hard work and determination” not to mention “education” do not add up to success in this day and age. So why incite and torment people by citing examples of previous generations when this was possible?

353 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 10:13:37am

Speaking of OWS and Zuccotti Park, I’ve posted photos hot off the presses (a few minutes ago).

Nothing particularly earth shattering. A few more peeks into what the routine is like there - whether it’s the drummers, the crank conspiracists that line up on Broadway, or any number of issues that are being promoted at any moment.

354 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 10:31:42am

re: #338 Alouette

They quote the Pew Report, which found that the reason that Jews make higher incomes is because they tend to have a higher educational level. That’s a cultural factor. It’s nothing ominous. Other cultures that value education in the same way— like the Hindu— achieve the same results.

Creepy article.

355 Simply Sarah  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 10:32:55am

re: #354 Obdicut

They quote the Pew Report, which found that the reason that Jews make higher incomes is because they tend to have a higher educational level. That’s a cultural factor. It’s nothing ominous. Other cultures that value education in the same way— like the Hindu— achieve the same results.

Creepy article.

What? You mean groups of people that tend to be more educated often have a better chance of ending up in a better paying job? Get out of town!

356 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 10:33:59am

re: #354 Obdicut

The weird thing is that the final 2/3rd of the article is fine. It talks about why Jews have reached those income levels, what they had to go through, etc. It’s just got this nutty bit at the start.

357 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 26, 2011 10:49:52am

Is the 3rd Rule of Right Club “The truth is that we are the joke. And we are laughing all the way to the bank.”?


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