We have yet another wingnut outrageous outrage tonight, courtesy of Andrew Breitbart camp follower Joel Pollak:
Yes, now the loons at Breitbart’s hate sites are actually calling the OWS protesters “terrorists.”
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windsagio Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:22:31pm |
Wait, that's how they're spinning the vet that got shot in the head by a tear gas grenade? Human shields?
That's... terrible
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:23:29pm |
I always use Girl Scouts as human shields. Then I steal their cookies.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:26:05pm |
re: #1 windsagio
Wait, that's how they're spinning the vet that got shot in the head by a tear gas grenade? Human shields?
That's... terrible
But so wonderfully predicatable.
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:26:20pm |
Since they can't vilify the OWS strictly through its actions, they have to vilify it through other means. Guilt by association has always worked well for them in the past, at least in their own circles.
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Gus Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:26:29pm |
Yes. Because only white able-bodied male chickenhawks should show up at demonstrations.
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windsagio Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:28:38pm |
for the record, this is the first thing I thought of when I heard the tear gas grenade thing.
Cop shot a famous reporter with one of those things in the head and killed him... and got away with it.
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freetoken Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:28:39pm |
From the link:
The emerging truth is that Occupy has no other grievances. The “tell” is this weekʼs attempt by the mainstream media to elicit comment from Occupy activists about student loans–just as President Obama has unveiled a new (and futile) proposal to cap monthly payments. The amounts cited by some Occupy activists–$20,000, for example–are high but not jaw-dropping (for example, Iʼm paying back roughly $200,000 in student debt.)
Which explains why the writer is trying to do the OWS = Terrorists thing, as he needs to generate outrage to keep on the BratFart payroll, because he really needs money to pay off those loans.
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Interesting Times in Benghazi Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:28:51pm |
re: #5 Gus 802
Yes. Because only white able-bodied male chickenhawks should show up at demonstrations.
And instead of using them as "human shields", Real Americans™ treat disabled people at protests like this:
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Gus Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:30:10pm |
re: #8 publicityStunted
And instead of using them as "human shields", Real Americans™ treat disabled people at protests like this:
[Video]
Yep. And from the same dimwitted fools that would love to get rid of the American's with Disabilities Act (ADA).
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Killgore Trout Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:30:54pm |
re: #7 freetoken
From the link:
Which explains why the writer is trying to do the OWS = Terrorists thing, as he needs to generate outrage to keep on the BratFart payroll, because he really needs money to pay off those loans.
I don't think Breitbart pays, at least not much. He probably borrowed the model from Ariana Huffington. Lots of ideologues are willing to write for free.
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Stanghazi Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:31:05pm |
Hey, when all things have been used: Communists, Marxists, Anti-Semites, Hippies, Anarchists, Trouble making youth, Drum Circle People...
What's left?
Uh, It's America Fuck Yeah!
TERRORISTS!!!
the big fear!
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:31:42pm |
re: #12 Stanley Sea
Hey, when all things have been used: Communists, Marxists, Anti-Semites, Hippies, Anarchists, Trouble making youth, Drum Circle People...
What's left?
Uh, It's America Fuck Yeah!
TERRORISTS!!!
the big fear!
Freedom ain't free.
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freetoken Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:32:26pm |
re: #11 Killgore Trout
His bio at the site says he moved to California to work with Bratfart, and that he is counsel to the latter, so I suspect that Bratfart is having to pay him something.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:33:00pm |
Look in a way this is really good news. As in this is all they got? Practically made up of whole cloth. Lies and distortions. They got nothing.
For each Brietbart video, I can and will do video showing the reality on the ground. Including (if I can) the inevitable exit of OLA from the City Hall lawn. Heh, I only published a third of what I got in video anyway.
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Kragar Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:33:09pm |
Those veterans and disabled you claim are being used as human shields?
Nope.
Chuck Testa.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:33:13pm |
re: #12 Stanley Sea
Hey, when all things have been used: Communists, Marxists, Anti-Semites, Hippies, Anarchists, Trouble making youth, Drum Circle People...
What's left?
Uh, It's America Fuck Yeah!
TERRORISTS!!!
the big fear!
Breitbart did have an article up today linking some organizers of the Chicago OWS franchise to Hamas/Hezbollah funding investigations. I didn't bother looking into it. Maybe, maybe not.
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laZardo Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:36:26pm |
re: #8 publicityStunted
That's why I have no compunction in referring to cops as pigs. These people will probably get promoted for doing that.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:36:37pm |
re: #17 Killgore Trout
Breitbart did have an article up today linking some organizers of the Chicago OWS franchise to Hamas/Hezbollah funding investigations. I didn't bother looking into it. Maybe, maybe not.
I totally need to join Hamas and go out and demand that jews become my dogs
because apparently that's what hippies do, is what i'm told
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Killgore Trout Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:38:03pm |
re: #20 WindUpBird
I totally need to join Hamas and go out and demand that jews become my dogs
because apparently that's what hippies do, is what i'm told
You'll find quite a bit of support for Hamas among the radical left. George Galloway, Code Pink, Veterans for Peace, etc. It never made much sense to me either.
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windsagio Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:38:19pm |
re: #17 Killgore Trout
man why are you even reading that site?
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:39:31pm |
re: #17 Killgore Trout
They (Brietbarts kind) will try to turn any even philosophical connection to Arab Spring into a terror link. Let's not buy into extraordinary awful claims before we have anything short of extraordinary evidence. These people are a lot like us. They may be further left, or younger or have more time on their hands. But their complaints are largely (AFAIK), on the money.
Visibility is their primary weapon of choice. And patience. That is notable. Contrast this with the civil disobedience we see at WTO/G20 meets. Wow.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:40:51pm |
What the Tea Party want is an America that never existed. They want the perfect America of the 50's that only existed if you weren't a woman, non-white, gay, or anything vaguely nonWASPish.
OWS want -
A return to a baking system that kept high risk and low risk separate (actually existed).
A return to a time when the top 1% were not hundreds of percentage points away from the lowest in terms of income disparity - (actually existed).
There's some pie in the sky stuff at the fringes, but generally it's a high intelligence crowd who are just pissed off as all hell.
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Gus Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:41:00pm |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
You'll find quite a bit of support for Hamas among the radical left. George Galloway, Code Pink, Veterans for Peace, etc. It never made much sense to me either.
George Gallowy supports climate change regulations even on a direct action level. Ergo anyone that supports climate change regulation is siding with Galloway? Guilt by associate? Six degrees of separation? Glenn Beck's chalkboard?
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:41:56pm |
re: #20 WindUpBird
I totally need to join Hamas and go out and demand that jews become my dogs
because apparently that's what hippies do, is what i'm told
Is there a new rule book available?
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jamesfirecat Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:42:43pm |
re: #1 windsagio
Wait, that's how they're spinning the vet that got shot in the head by a tear gas grenade? Human shields?
That's... terrible
And not in the Lex Luthor stole 40 cakes kind of way!
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engineer cat Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:42:52pm |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
You'll find quite a bit of support for Hamas among the radical left. George Galloway, Code Pink, Veterans for Peace, etc. It never made much sense to me either.
um, have you ever heard of this 'herding cats' thing?
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Gus Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:43:17pm |
re: #17 Killgore Trout
BreitbartPamela Geller did have an article up today linkingsome organizers of the Chicago OWS franchiseLittle Green Footballs to Hamas/Hezbollahfunding investigations. I didn't bother looking into it. Maybe, maybe not.
FTFY
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bratwurst Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:44:20pm |
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jamesfirecat Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:44:20pm |
re: #19 laZardo
That's why I have no compunction in referring to cops as pigs. These people will probably get promoted for doing that.
Nothing good has ever come from dehumanizing a group of people regardless of what they may or may not have done to "deserve it".
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laZardo Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:44:22pm |
re: #20 WindUpBird
I totally need to join Hamas and go out and demand that jews become my dogs
because apparently that's what hippies do, is what i'm told
You'd better get in line behind the other furries then.
;B
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Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:45:09pm |
re: #30 engineer dog
um, have you ever heard of this 'herding cats' thing?
To be fair, we have to grant individual Tea Party rallies the same sort of shrift. It's very difficult to keep wolves out of the flock.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:45:19pm |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
You'll find quite a bit of support for Hamas among the radical left. George Galloway, Code Pink, Veterans for Peace, etc. It never made much sense to me either.
Oh boy.
And the far right only supports Israel because then Jesus will come back and everything will be great.
The fringes are the fringes.
And the far-left fringe is a billion miles away from becoming the Demcratic mainstream, OWS however is now a mainstream movement in it's own right. Polling is through the roof.
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:45:52pm |
re: #25 wozzablog
OWS want -
A return to a baking system...
I want a return to my grandma's baking system, I loved her coffee cake and perogies.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:46:02pm |
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laZardo Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:46:06pm |
re: #33 jamesfirecat
Well, we can't just sit back and just let them beat others up. Especially when the thin blue line circles the whole damn "force."
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Major Kong Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:46:08pm |
My, how convenient.
I wonder if Hamas could co-opt this tactic? When they kill civilians they could just say "They were being used as human shields".
Doesn't sound quite so good, does it?
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:46:57pm |
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recusancy Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:47:33pm |
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jamesfirecat Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:47:55pm |
re: #39 laZardo
Well, we can't just sit back and just let them beat others up. Especially when the thin blue line circles the whole damn "force."
We can react to injustice without dehumanizing those who commit the injustice so as to better avoid committing acts of injustice ourselves.
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freetoken Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:48:04pm |
I think it's important to not fall into the No True Scotsman fallacy wrt OWS. OWS is probably many things right now, and will continue to morph.
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:48:29pm |
re: #35 Decatur Deb
To be fair, we have to grant individual Tea Party rallies the same sort of shrift. It's very difficult to keep wolves out of the flock.
Good point, but I think by their very nature they were/are a more homogeneous group.
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laZardo Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:49:00pm |
re: #33 jamesfirecat
Did I also mention that they sincerely enjoy it when protesters get beaten up?
[h/t OCSP]
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:49:30pm |
I am brave. Very brave. Or stupid.
The boys just found a bag of candy in with the Halloween decorations. We're seeing if they're still good.
Verdict: Not poisonous, but the chocolate bloomed.
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Olsonist Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:49:58pm |
I went by Occupy Oakland last night. Fences around the park, noticeable but not a heavy police presence. There were some signs at 14th/Broadway.
Today, it was a park again with the Occupiers spread out peacefully. A very nice vibe for terrorists.
As an Oakland resident, I'm absolutely livid with Quan. She can go fuck herself. The Vet, Scott Olsen, has my admiration. "Video footage appears shows an officer tossing another canister toward the group helping him."
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:50:09pm |
re: #38 jamesfirecat
Here's a visual guide...
I used to work at EDS, back when they did all the IT for GM. After the Y2K rush, they couldn't move operations overseas fast enough. Fuck them sideways.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:50:12pm |
re: #46 b_sharp
Good point, but I think by their very nature they were/are a more homogeneous group.
I've always counted 5 or 6 strains of Tea Partiers. The most homogeneous are likely the most astro-turfed.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:50:53pm |
re: #47 laZardo
Did I also mention that they sincerely enjoy it when protesters get beaten up?
Then they are horrible human beings, but they can do nothing in my eyes which will ever call me to see them as anything other than human beings.
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researchok Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:50:58pm |
As a matter of clarification, it is Joel Pollack and not Noah Pollack that wrote the piece for Breitbart.
It is unlikely Noah Pollack would associate himself with Breitbart.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:51:18pm |
re: #33 jamesfirecat
Nothing good has ever come from dehumanizing a group of people regardless of what they may or may not have done to "deserve it".
James, your being the grown up in the room, stop it - your freaking me the fuck out man
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laZardo Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:51:27pm |
re: #44 jamesfirecat
So when do we say 'enough is enough?' Do we have to wait until someone like Scott Olsen actually gets killed before we start pushing back?
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Olsonist Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:52:21pm |
re: #47 laZardo
Did I also mention that they sincerely enjoy it when protesters get beaten up?
[h/t OCSP]
The cops I did see last night in Oakland were laughing and having a rolicking good time.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:52:29pm |
Some asshole over at my blog is claiming that the entire OWS is full of anti-Semites, while the Tea Party is full of Israel lovers.
I don't get enough traffic to ban active posters (unless they're spammers) but I can put his posts on "must be approved"
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Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:53:06pm |
re: #40 Major Kong
My, how convenient.
I wonder if Hamas could co-opt this tactic? When they kill civilians they could just say "They were being used as human shields".
Doesn't sound quite so good, does it?
I'm sorry, but I don't understand the point you're trying to make.
Hamas should "co-opt tactics" from OWS? How exactly would that work?
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laZardo Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:53:18pm |
re: #58 Olsonist
Laughing it up from the last beatdown as they prepare for the next, no doubt.
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recusancy Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:53:24pm |
re: #50 Olsonist
I went by Occupy Oakland last night. Fences around the park, noticeable but not a heavy police presence. There were some signs at 14th/Broadway.
Today, it was a park again with the Occupiers spread out peacefully. A very nice vibe for terrorists.
As an Oakland resident, I'm absolutely livid with Quan. She can go fuck herself. The Vet, Scott Olsen, has my admiration. "Video footage appears shows an officer tossing another canister toward the group helping him."
Apparently she's a-ok with everything now: [Link: thinkprogress.org...]
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:53:40pm |
re: #52 Decatur Deb
I've always counted 5 or 6 strains of Tea Partiers. The most homogeneous are likely the most astro-turfed.
You're much closer to the action, so I'll defer to your insight. Unless I'm likely to bang my head doing it.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:54:14pm |
re: #57 laZardo
So when do we say 'enough is enough?' Do we have to wait until someone like Scott Olsen actually gets killed before we start pushing back?
Why can't we push back without dehumanizing those we push back against?
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recusancy Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:54:20pm |
re: #60 Charles
I'm sorry, but I don't understand the point you're trying to make.
Hamas should "co-opt tactics" from OWS? How exactly would that work?
I think he means Brietbart's tactic of calling them human shields.
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bratwurst Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:54:53pm |
re: #55 researchok
As a matter of clarification, it is Joel Pollack and not Noah Pollack that wrote the piece for Breitbart.
It is unlikely Noah Pollack would associate himself with Breitbart.
Is this meant to be some kind of No True Pollack defense?
/
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:55:42pm |
re: #47 laZardo
Okay now taking a few cherry picked assholes and broad brushing the very first responders that we depend on when things go horribly violently wrong just sucks. I'll rail at the abuses same as anyone. Heck, just look at my civil liberties pages.
But I draw the line at the broad brush attacks. Most cops are damn fine folks who take risks most of us would not ever. At least here in the states. I have no idea about what is up where you live.
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laZardo Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:56:11pm |
re: #64 jamesfirecat
...looking back at history, I sincerely wonder if that's even possible.
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:56:27pm |
re: #52 Decatur Deb
I've always counted 5 or 6 strains of Tea Partiers. The most homogeneous are likely the most astro-turfed.
How many strains of OWS?
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Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:56:52pm |
re: #57 laZardo
So when do we say 'enough is enough?' Do we have to wait until someone like Scott Olsen actually gets killed before we start pushing back?
Pushing back in an MLK kind of way or in a Daniel DeFreeze kind of way?
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jamesfirecat Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:56:58pm |
re: #68 laZardo
...looking back at history, I sincerely wonder if that's even possible.
Well it is what I strive for and what I will never cease to strive fro, because I can't think of a situation that dehumanizing has EVER brought about anything good.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:57:05pm |
re: #69 b_sharp
How many strains of OWS?
So...do we mean strain like disease, or strain like plant variety?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:58:01pm |
Is this the most boring World Series ever?
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:58:36pm |
re: #67 Rightwingconspirator
Okay now taking a few cherry picked assholes and broad brushing the very first responders that we depend on when things go horribly violently wrong just sucks. I'll rail at the abuses same as anyone. Heck, just look at my civil liberties pages.
But I draw the line at the broad brush attacks. Most cops are damn fine folks who take risks most of us would not ever. At least here in the states. I have no idea about what is up where you live.
You have class.
Not as much as your terrific wife, but you do have class.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:59:27pm |
re: #63 b_sharp
You're much closer to the action, so I'll defer to your insight. Unless I'm likely to bang my head doing it.
I'm in the middle of Bumfuk Alabama--got no OWS here (totally inconceivable) and very little TP (totally redundant).
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Kragar Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:00:12pm |
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:00:37pm |
re: #72 EmmmieG
So...do we mean strain like disease, or strain like plant variety?
I'll take Plant Variety for 2000 Alex...
beep!
What is variegated?
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Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:00:43pm |
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Kragar Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:00:46pm |
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laZardo Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:00:56pm |
re: #70 Decatur Deb
Well, MLK got shot and we are barely any closer to the "dream" he envisioned than we were in 1968.
But as for pushback, there are plenty of other modes than violence. Police leaks for example. Obviously this world is far from perfect, and any retribution directed against innocents is highly regrettable. In all honesty though, the police at fault only have themselves to blame even if that does happen.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:01:08pm |
I'm adding another three other things to my list of OWS demands (end of downstairs thread) -
* -* A Consumer Rights Watchdog/Ombudsman - with actual teeth and capacity to bite.
*-* End to Corporate Person hood.
*-* Publicly financed election campaigns
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recusancy Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:01:30pm |
re: #73 Alouette
Is this the most boring World Series ever?
It's tea partiers against GWB so, yeah. Not interested in the least.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:01:36pm |
re: #73 Alouette
Is this the most boring World Series ever?
Baseball is no longer the American Pastime. The American Pastime is now shopping at Costco.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:02:00pm |
re: #74 b_sharp
Thanks much but I'm tipping my hat to jamesfirecat. Keeping angry emotions in check takes real discipline.
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Digital Display Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:02:13pm |
re: #58 Olsonist
The cops I did see last night in Oakland were laughing and having a rolicking good time.
Really? Were you in a donut shop or something?
/Teasing
We were TDY at Alameda when our Daughter was born at Merritt Hospital in Oakland....Oakland has issues..But overall.. I'm sort of fond of the town
Great Chinese food..Merritt lake..Raiders..Oakland Hills..An old School Military town that got abandon by America..
It is also one of the toughest Cities in America...So eyes wide open and all that...
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:04:06pm |
Occupy Wall Street put those Cokes in the freezer.
This aggression shall not stand.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:04:18pm |
re: #68 laZardo
Dude, I just thought ya might be persuaded to narrow it down to the real bad cops.
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laZardo Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:05:48pm |
re: #87 Rightwingconspirator
I'm starting to think the "just doing their jobs" thing is bordering close to the Nuremberg Defense. Tony Bologna, for example, has a history of violence, and that he's still on the force, getting to the rank where he was that fateful day requires the cooperation of the rest of the damn department.
EDIT: Added link.
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:05:54pm |
re: #86 goddamnedfrank
Occupy Wall Street put those Cokes in the freezer.
This aggression shall not stand.
Poor Coke brothers.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:06:20pm |
re: #80 laZardo
Well, MLK got shot and we are barely any closer to the "dream" he envisioned than we were in 1968.
But as for pushback, there are plenty of other modes than violence. Police leaks for example. Obviously this world is far from perfect, and any retribution directed against innocents is highly regrettable. In all honesty though, the police at fault only have themselves to blame even if that does happen.
No closer to the dream? We have a black president, and even the TPGOP can pretend to run a second black president. And my town hasn't had a lynching in at least 15 years. We need another couple generations, but you obviously never drank out of a "Whites Only" drinking fountain.
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jaunte Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:07:31pm |
Matt Taibbi on OWS:
Wall Street Isn't Winning – It's Cheating
...In this country, we cheer for people who hit their own home runs – not shortcut-chasing juicers like Bonds and McGwire, Blankfein and Dimon.
That's why it's so obnoxious when people say the protesters are just sore losers who are jealous of these smart guys in suits who beat them at the game of life. This isn't disappointment at having lost. It's anger because those other guys didn't really win. And people now want the score overturned.
All weekend I was thinking about this “jealousy” question, and I just kept coming back to all the different ways the game is rigged. People aren't jealous and they don’t want privileges. They just want a level playing field, and they want Wall Street to give up its cheat codes, things like:
-Free Money
-Credit Amnesty
-Stupidity Insurance
-Ungraduated Taxes
-Get Out Of Jail Free Privileges
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:07:50pm |
There are honestly, so many issues that should not be contentious (see my manifesto) - and really aren't beyond a die hard TGOP caucus in Washington, and maybe a member or two on the supreme court.
Add together the total senate republicans, house members and conservatives on the supreme court and you have the block to great progress at less than 600 people.
Generic republicans during polling support the vast majority of the goals i've outlined and as a bloc are not reflexively opposed to to OWS as a movement.
Me over thinking such things though, is a way in which madness lies.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:09:18pm |
re: #88 laZardo
The violence aimed at police is often the cause of the loss of perspective that leads them to violence. I do not deny too many bad cops are out there. Once an FBI agent took the 5th. But still the FBI is doing a very tough necessary job.
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laZardo Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:10:58pm |
re: #90 Decatur Deb
Exceptions to the rule. What we no longer have de jure still exists de facto.
Sure, there haven't been any lynchings - but there still is no federal anti-lynching law thanks to the representatives from the states where that happened the most (TBH though that's already de facto covered by the media.)
But thanks to Wall Street, the wealth divide - which continues to be mostly along racial lines - has only widened. And this sadly leads to more crime among the demographics closer to the bottom. The solution tossed around by most of the officials in power to do something about it is MOAR COPS!
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freetoken Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:12:25pm |
re: #91 jaunte
I think Tabbi is doing some revisionism here... or projecting his own wishes on the reality of that which we call humanity.
E.g.:
People aren't jealous and they don’t want privileges.
Sorry Matt, but you're just not owning up to basic human (even primate) behavior. All people exhibit jealousy and envy at times, and many people exhibit it quite often and in large amount.
The OWS people are like everyone else - full of all sorts of faults and foibles. I have no doubt that envy is part of the mix of motivators behind the occupiers.
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darthstar Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:14:11pm |
So I'm changing a burnt out flourescent bulb (fuckers are 15 bucks a piece and I've got twelve of them in my ceiling in one room, four in another)...and the goddamn socket's pins that hold the bulb in break...well, would you believe hardware stores don't carry those little four pin base sockets for their fifteen fucking dollar light bulbs? Well, they don't. So, after wasting twenty minutes with the little dope smoker (I liked that about him) tard at Ace, I came home to try the internets...Lowes and Home Despot both suck too...then I tried the google...and yes! I found the sockets...only $1.62 each! A buck sixty-two!?! You've got to be fucking kidding me! Oh, wait...you have to buy ten or more. Actually, I found another place that had them for $2.85 single unit price...so I'm okay, but I still felt like ranting...now, if you'll excuse me, I've got some lamb loin chops to grill and fingerling potatoes to roast.
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:17:42pm |
re: #95 freetoken
I think Tabbi is doing some revisionism here... or projecting his own wishes on the reality of that which we call humanity.
E.g.:
Sorry Matt, but you're just not owning up to basic human (even primate) behavior. All people exhibit jealousy and envy at times, and many people exhibit it quite often and in large amount.
The OWS people are like everyone else - full of all sorts of faults and foibles. I have no doubt that envy is part of the mix of motivators behind the occupiers.
The right is stating jealousy as a prime motivator. That may be true of a very small minority, but I doubt it is an important factor. Anger at bypassing the rules, ignoring the rules, even changing the rules is a larger part of the motivation.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:20:14pm |
re: #94 laZardo
Exceptions to the rule. What we no longer have de jure still exists de facto.
Sure, there haven't been any lynchings - but there still is no federal anti-lynching law thanks to the representatives from the states where that happened the most (TBH though that's already de facto covered by the media.)
But thanks to Wall Street, the wealth divide - which continues to be mostly along racial lines - has only widened. And this sadly leads to more crime among the demographics closer to the bottom. The solution tossed around by most of the officials in power to do something about it is MOAR COPS!
When you get a chance, spend some time in the South--watch the interaction and talk to old people of both races. We're not in the promised land, but the old shit is dead. Watch the kids and you will wonder "what the hell were they even thinking in Anniston". Now we have new battles, which is to say the battles the North faced in the 1930's.
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laZardo Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:20:58pm |
Gotta go out and get something edited. BBL.
"I didn't start 'em when I said fuck the police, 'cause it's all for a n---a to get peace."
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Cheechako Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:20:58pm |
The right is stating jealousy as a prime motivator. That may be true of a very small minority, but I doubt it is an important factor. Anger at bypassing the rules, ignoring the rules, even changing the rules is a larger part of the motivation.
The right is very concerned because the OWS is attacking the goose that lays their golden eggs.
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OhNoZombies! Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:21:35pm |
Brightbart manual:
1. Find a story with dark people or liberals, preferably dark liberals
2. Look for an acorn of truth like a name or place
3. Make shit up
4. Post it to have a laugh with his pack of dumbasses highly informed groupies
4. Cry like a biotch when called on it.
The irony of it all, is that it only adds strength and credibility to the very people he tries to victimize.
The same goes for the police, politicians, or others in positions of authority who abuse those who allow them to hold those positions in the first place.
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freetoken Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:21:51pm |
re: #101 Cheechako
The right is very concerned because the OWS is attacking the goose that lays their golden eggs.
Or, because OWS has stolen the media spot light from the Tea Party, wrt political reporting.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:24:03pm |
re: #103 freetoken
Or, because OWS has stolen the media spot light from the Tea Party, wrt political reporting.
That's the worst thing about OWS. The people using the Tea Parties want their crazy shit off the tube before the real election campaign gets under way.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:24:11pm |
re: #98 b_sharp
The right is stating jealousy as a prime motivator. That may be true of a very small minority, but I doubt it is an important factor. Anger at bypassing the rules, ignoring the rules, even changing the rules is a larger part of the motivation.
Jealousy was a key component of keeping the American dream alive, keeping up with the Jones', matching or beating the neighbour's car (etc).
Jealousy going upwards? - upwards always used to be obtainable, but watch Maddow from last night and see the explosion in the graph that takes the 1% away from even the 95th-99th percentile over the last 20 years.
This is why it's mostly young people out there - since 1987 the gap has widened by hundreds of percentage points.
The people growing up before them never saw the massive kinds of disparity and existence of just such a massively detached uberclass.
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laZardo Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:24:23pm |
re: #99 Decatur Deb
When you get a chance, spend some time in the South--watch the interaction and talk to old people of both races. We're not in the promised land, but the old shit is dead. Watch the kids and you will wonder "what the hell were they even thinking in Anniston". Now we have new battles, which is to say the battles the North faced in the 1930's.
My uncle (also of Filipino descent) once went on holiday in Atlanta and almost literally rode the public bus to a Klan meeting.
The old shit is there, they just wear fancy suits and trade stocks rather than pointy hoods, robes and burning crosses.
BBL srsly this time
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Digital Display Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:31:55pm |
#occupywallstreet....Here is what I think
They aren't protesting people getting rich at all.. You see anybody protesting Apple or Ford?
It's not that at all.. America has had Robber Barron's since day one..And we always have to reign them in every so often..Cause they love fucking the system and workers...No one begrudges an Honest Company making a profit on Wall Street....
This anger is directed squarely at dishonesty in the market place..
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:33:14pm |
re: #108 HoosierHoops
#occupywallstreet...Here is what I think
They aren't protesting people getting rich at all.. You see anybody protesting Apple or Ford?
It's not that at all.. America has had Robber Barron's since day one..And we always have to reign them in every so often..Cause they love fucking the system and workers...No one begrudges an Honest Company making a profit on Wall Street...
This anger is directed squarely at dishonesty in the market place..
You hit the head squarely on the nail, Hoops.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:33:30pm |
re: #100 laZardo
Gotta go out and get something edited. BBL.
"I didn't start 'em when I said fuck the police, 'cause it's all for a n---a to get peace."
From the same song, a sad call to violence.
From city to city I'm a menace as I pass by.
Rippin' up shit just so you can remember I'm
A straight up n**** that's done in, gunnin' and comin'
Straight at yo ass.
A 100 Miles and Runnin'...
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:33:54pm |
re: #108 HoosierHoops
I explained to my class what Robber Barons were the other day. The real ones. In Europe, certain Barons who owned land on rivers would build a fortress on the river, and charge a toll to pass. They didn't do anything for their money, just bullied some money from the ships.
The reason I was explaining it was that we were working on simple machines, and the challenge was that the Robber Baron had ordered a barrel of pickles, and you had to get it to his castle from the boat using simple machines. No catapults, though.
I'm sure you all wanted to know this.
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Kragar Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:37:03pm |
re: #111 EmmmieG
I explained to my class what Robber Barons were the other day. The real ones. In Europe, certain Barons who owned land on rivers would build a fortress on the river, and charge a toll to pass. They didn't do anything for their money, just bullied some money from the ships.
The reason I was explaining it was that we were working on simple machines, and the challenge was that the Robber Baron had ordered a barrel of pickles, and you had to get it to his castle from the boat using simple machines. No catapults, though.
I'm sure you all wanted to know this.
Thats easy.
Ballista.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:37:51pm |
re: #112 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Thats easy.
Ballista.
No. The pickles had to arrive in edible order.
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OhNoZombies! Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:39:48pm |
re: #108 HoosierHoops
Yep, and that they have effectively knee-capped anyone else who isn't part of the club.
It's like when the Titanic was sinking, the rich guys all got to the life boats while everyone in steerage drowned.
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Kragar Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:40:26pm |
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Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:41:51pm |
re: #113 EmmmieG
No. The pickles had to arrive in edible order.
Archimedes Screw.
Image: 50238_archimed_scr_lg.gif
Anyone can do ramps and pulleys.
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:42:29pm |
re: #111 EmmmieG
I explained to my class what Robber Barons were the other day. The real ones. In Europe, certain Barons who owned land on rivers would build a fortress on the river, and charge a toll to pass. They didn't do anything for their money, just bullied some money from the ships.
The reason I was explaining it was that we were working on simple machines, and the challenge was that the Robber Baron had ordered a barrel of pickles, and you had to get it to his castle from the boat using simple machines. No catapults, though.
I'm sure you all wanted to know this.
No prob. Use a horse. It will perform one horsepower of work using several simple machines in its structure. (It's even the result of a screw)
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:43:30pm |
re: #117 b_sharp
No prob. Use a horse. It will perform one horsepower of work using several simple machines in its structure. (It's even the result of a screw)
How do you get the horse from the boat to the castle? Jumping from the side of the boat into the water is probably a bad idea. (Just so you know, a ramp, better known as an "inclined plane" is a simple machine.)
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:43:46pm |
re: #114 OhNoZombies!
Yep, and that they have effectively knee-capped anyone else who isn't part of the club.
It's like when the Titanic was sinking, the rich guys all got to the life boats while everyone in steerage drowned.
Like John Jacob Astor?
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Targetpractice Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:45:34pm |
re: #108 HoosierHoops
#occupywallstreet...Here is what I think
They aren't protesting people getting rich at all.. You see anybody protesting Apple or Ford?
It's not that at all.. America has had Robber Barron's since day one..And we always have to reign them in every so often..Cause they love fucking the system and workers...No one begrudges an Honest Company making a profit on Wall Street...
This anger is directed squarely at dishonesty in the market place..
And that really is the root of it all. From the moment we begin playing games, we're taught that cheating is wrong and that persons who rely upon it are bad. "Cheaters never prosper" is virtually drilled into our heads from the earliest days of our youth.
But then we look at Wall Street and what do we find? Men whose job it is to find new and creative ways to cheat people out of their money, out of their livelihoods, and concentrate it in the fewest hands possible. And then, when their greed becomes too great and their actions cause the entire house of cards to fall down, they know that the government will sweep in and use the tax dollars of the working class to bail them out, for they are "too big to fail."
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freetoken Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:46:03pm |
re: #104 Decatur Deb
The people using the Tea Parties want their crazy shit off the tube before the real election campaign gets under way.
The impression I'm getting is that there is a great deal of jockeying going on by the powers that be, in the machinery of the political parties as well as the big lobbying groups (industry/field specialities that actively work the DC circuit) to play clean-up for the coming elections, with the idea of how to package the Presidential candidate (of their choice) to the general American public and not the small vested groups that have been doing the core work, the so called "base".
When a fad/fashion comes into style the people at the top of the social ladder want to project that they are part of the current wave. OWS is hot right now, and special interests are trying to steer the direction to support their longer term objectives. This is pretty standard, such as the Kochs working on general angst among older white folk right after the 2008 election - they knew they (and their allies) could steer that angst to their own benefit.
Because of so many people being unemployed for such a length of time, and because so many young people have been unable to find their first "real" job, there is a great deal of discomfort out there in America. That gives the power-brokers fuel with which to work, and we're seeing now with OWS this or that pundit/think tank/interest saying "OWS is this..." or "OWS is that...", in order to try to reap the most out of the ground truth (of many disillusioned Americans.)
I'm quite jaded by it all, and that is one reason why I'm not caring one way or another how the OWS "story" is being played out.
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OhNoZombies! Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:47:48pm |
I was a actually thinking of Billy Zane in the movie. :)
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:48:24pm |
re: #118 EmmmieG
How do you get the horse from the boat to the castle? Jumping from the side of the boat into the water is probably a bad idea. (Just so you know, a ramp, better known as an "inclined plane" is a simple machine.)
The only machine I can't think of in a horse is a ramp.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:49:56pm |
re: #123 b_sharp
The only machine I can't think of in a horse is a ramp.
Ahem. Use a ramp from the boat to the shore. (Even from the boat to a pier, you have to have something.) Then you can use the horse. Or a wheelbarrow, or a pulley system, or something.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:51:14pm |
re: #121 freetoken
The impression I'm getting is that there is a great deal of jockeying going on by the powers that be, in the machinery of the political parties as well as the big lobbying groups (industry/field specialities that actively work the DC circuit) to play clean-up for the coming elections, with the idea of how to package the Presidential candidate (of their choice) to the general American public and not the small vested groups that have been doing the core work, the so called "base".
When a fad/fashion comes into style the people at the top of the social ladder want to project that they are part of the current wave. OWS is hot right now, and special interests are trying to steer the direction to support their longer term objectives. This is pretty standard, such as the Kochs working on general angst among older white folk right after the 2008 election - they knew they (and their allies) could steer that angst to their own benefit.
Because of so many people being unemployed for such a length of time, and because so many young people have been unable to find their first "real" job, there is a great deal of discomfort out there in America. That gives the power-brokers fuel with which to work, and we're seeing now with OWS this or that pundit/think tank/interest saying "OWS is this..." or "OWS is that...", in order to try to reap the most out of the ground truth (of many disillusioned Americans.)
I'm quite jaded by it all, and that is one reason why I'm not caring one way or another how the OWS "story" is being played out.
If the economy doesn't show signs of obvious life, and Romney gets the nomination, the Teafreaks are the President's best hope. If they stay home or go with third parties, the GOP wastes the crisis they have nurtured.
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Digital Display Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:54:29pm |
re: #124 EmmmieG
Ahem. Use a ramp from the boat to the shore. (Even from the boat to a pier, you have to have something.) Then you can use the horse. Or a wheelbarrow, or a pulley system, or something.
Just call the cell of the guy on the Viagra Commercials that tows around a couple of horses to keep from getting stuck in the mud..He's Horny.. He'll figure a way to shore..I promise you..
/
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b_snark Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:54:47pm |
re: #124 EmmmieG
Ahem. Use a ramp from the boat to the shore. (Even from the boat to a pier, you have to have something.) Then you can use the horse. Or a wheelbarrow, or a pulley system, or something.
I got that. I was looking for all machines internal to the horse. I can come up with lever, pulley, screw, and axle, the last two within cells. I guess that leaves two, inclined plane and wedge.
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Targetpractice Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:55:24pm |
re: #125 Decatur Deb
If the economy doesn't show signs of obvious life, and Romney gets the nomination, the Teafreaks are the President's best hope. If they stay home or go with third parties, the GOP wastes the crisis they have nurtured.
My guess is that, once Romney starts racking up wins in the primaries, the GOP will simply throw up their hands and focus more on the "Anybody But Obama!" angle. All the while repeatedly beating into the heads of the TPers that electing Romney is the only choice, as refusing to vote or voting third party means Obama gets a second term.
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freetoken Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:55:45pm |
re: #125 Decatur Deb
If the economy doesn't show signs of obvious life,...
The news this week point towards a continued "recovery", though as a recovery from a recession it is still quite slow and behind previous post-recession periods.
So, if this continues, unemployment will slowly go down, and by Nov 2012 "the economy" might not be as strong as a campaign tool as it has seemed these past 36 months.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:59:04pm |
re: #125 Decatur Deb
The irony & oddity of a race depending on who has the fewest "stay home" voters is just too much. Especially given the HAVA/Voter ID/Disenfranchising issues. And since it's a given that a low turnout favors the right, um uh oh.
Unless the TP staying home over Romney changes the equation?!
I just can not parse this out with any sense.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:59:10pm |
re: #128 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
My guess is that, once Romney starts racking up wins in the primaries, the GOP will simply throw up their hands and focus more on the "Anybody But Obama!" angle. All the while repeatedly beating into the heads of the TPers that electing Romney is the only choice, as refusing to vote or voting third party means Obama gets a second term.
Yes. At that point we'll see if the TP's have hypnotized themselves into slipping the leash.
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OhNoZombies! Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:00:58pm |
I can't figure out who has more pull on the right. The Kochs or the Rovians ?
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Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:01:58pm |
re: #129 freetoken
The news this week point towards a continued "recovery", though as a recovery from a recession it is still quite slow and behind previous post-recession periods.
So, if this continues, unemployment will slowly go down, and by Nov 2012 "the economy" might not be as strong as a campaign tool as it has seemed these past 36 months.
Gallup's 'private' unemployment rate calculation indicates the official October rate might be below 9%. It's a question then of the time remaining and whether a poor but visibly recovering economy will be enough.
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dragonath Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:02:36pm |
Breitbart and his kind remind me of the student Republicans in high school who used to wear shirts like "Socialism killed 100 Million people" or something along those lines --- because if you didn't agree with them, you were probably a COMMUNIST.
And people wondered why my generation voted for Obama.
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prairiefire Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:02:58pm |
re: #133 OhNoZombies!
I can't figure out who has more pull on the right. The Kochs or the Rovians ?
At the moment I believe it is the Kochs. (There's a joke in there somewhere.) The "true believers" are calling Rove part of the "establishment."
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Targetpractice Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:03:33pm |
re: #131 Decatur Deb
Yes. At that point we'll see if the TP's have hypnotized themselves into slipping the leash.
True enough. The TPers fits and starts in choosing a candidate, even while Romney continues to enjoy leads in the early states, tells me that they're not likely to accept his winning the nomination without a great deal of bitching. So I'm predicting some mass defections, as well as a potential third party runner. Perhaps Bloomberg will take the opportunity that everybody's been saying is his for the last two elections?
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palomino Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:06:30pm |
Sadly this is par for the course among Breitbart and his ilk (Geller, Spencer, et al.)
They've been accusing Obama of being "pro-terrorist" for years. They made the same allegations a few years back to many who opposed the Iraq War. Now it's the OWS group that's become the target. Breitbart is a perfect example of the old but largely true saying, "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
As a hardcore culture warrior, Breitbart has no compunction about stoking the meme of "us" (real America-loving Americans) vs. "them" (liberals, Dems, OWS, whatever).
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Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:07:18pm |
re: #137 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
True enough. The TPers fits and starts in choosing a candidate, even while Romney continues to enjoy leads in the early states, tells me that they're not likely to accept his winning the nomination without a great deal of bitching. So I'm predicting some mass defections, as well as a potential third party runner. Perhaps Bloomberg will take the opportunity that everybody's been saying is his for the last two elections?
"Bloomberg/Lieberman 2012" Because New Jersey is Out West.
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bratwurst Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:08:01pm |
re: #133 OhNoZombies!
I can't figure out who has more pull on the right. The Kochs or the Rovians ?
At this point it is absolutely the Kochs. Never did I imagine I would pine for the good old days when KARL ROVE had a lot of power.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:08:11pm |
re: #81 wozzablog
I'm adding another three other things to my list of OWS demands (end of downstairs thread) -
* -* A Consumer Rights Watchdog/Ombudsman - with actual teeth and capacity to bite.
*-* End to Corporate Person hood.
*-* Publicly financed election campaigns
A comsumer rights watchdog/ombusdman is built into Dodd-Frank on several levels.
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OhNoZombies! Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:09:02pm |
re: #136 prairiefire
Well if that's the case, Romney might be wasting his time. I don't see southern evangelicals voting for the Yankee.
Hell, Im from the north and he seems too yank.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:09:27pm |
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Firstinla Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:10:23pm |
re: #143 OhNoZombies!
Hell, I'm from the West and to me he's too yank.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:15:16pm |
re: #121 freetoken
Th
e impression I'm getting is that there is a great deal of jockeying going on by the powers that be, in the machinery of the political parties as well as the big lobbying groups (industry/field specialities that actively work the DC circuit) to play clean-up for the coming elections, with the idea of how to package the Presidential candidate (of their choice) to the general American public and not the small vested groups that have been doing the core work, the so called "base".
I see this as well.
It's all about perception and emotion OR smoke and mirrors.
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Digital Display Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:15:22pm |
Sad story of a boy in Indy at court today because his parents beat him.. They were going to place him with his Aunt but he said his Aunt abused him also.. So they wanted to place him with his Grandparents and he said they beat him worse than his Mom..A confused judge asked the boy who he would like to live with...
He said the Colts.. They don't beat anybody
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OhNoZombies! Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:33:02pm |
re: #119 EmmmieG
On a more serious note though, in the end, if the damage to the world economy worstens, then yes, the uber-wealthy are gonna sink to the bottom as well.
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Stanghazi Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:34:03pm |
re: #149 HoosierHoops
I'll forgive you this comment because of the comment earlier. That one really summed it up. Gracias!
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Gus Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:37:18pm |
Oh shit.
@OccupyChicago Occupy Chicago
State Police have gas masks and canines.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:38:57pm |
re: #152 Gus 802
Oh shit.
@OccupyChicago Occupy Chicago
State Police have gas masks and canines.
Not good - but is there any other proof than a tweet?
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Gus Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:39:33pm |
Occupy Wall Street: Sgt. Shamar Thomas (Marine vet) calls on veterans to support the movement
Keith and Sgt. Shamar Thomas – the U.S. Marine Corps veteran who made headlines for his confrontation with NYPD at Occupy Times Square on Oct. 15 – discuss his experience at the NYC Occupy rally on Oct. 26, where he was struck by the NYPD while shielding protesters. Using his social media accounts to rally support, Sgt. Thomas reports that at least 25 veterans showed up Wednesday night to walk in solidarity for injured vet Scott Olsen and to protect protesters from NYPD violence. Sgt. Thomas dismisses rumors from the right wing that those in uniform at Occupy events are fakes: “That has been a really big deal, especially over the Internet … the veterans that were down there are true veterans and have served in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.”
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:40:06pm |
Given the lively conversation earlier I was taken aback by this article. So I paged it.
Oakland has some soul searching to do.
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OhNoZombies! Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:45:03pm |
re: #157 Gus 802
What's so scary about a bunch of street-pooping hippies ?
//
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:45:29pm |
re: #157 Gus 802
The establishment is nervous.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Cops have a shitty job. I wouldn't do what they do for anything.
All it takes is one bad apple the OWS crowd and if they aren't ready they would get hanged for it. It's a no win situation for the Cops.
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Gus Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:51:24pm |
re: #159 ggt
Yeah, I agree with that.
Cops have a shitty job. I wouldn't do what they do for anything.
All it takes is one bad apple the OWS crowd and if they aren't ready they would get hanged for it. It's a no win situation for the Cops.
It's a delicate balance. Cops take orders from the police chief who in turn takes orders from the mayor who in this case would be Mayor Rahm Emanuel (D).
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:52:01pm |
re: #160 Gus 802
It's a delicate balance. Cop take order from the police chief who in turn takes orders from the mayor who in this case would be Mayor Rahm Emanuel (D).
Police Chief is a political appointee --good point.
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HappyBenghazi Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:52:21pm |
OT but this has been a good World Series. and Holy Cow!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:54:41pm |
re: #162 HappyWarrior
OT but this has been a good World Series.
I just heard some cheering and merriment from the other room . . .
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Digital Display Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:54:48pm |
re: #162 HappyWarrior
OT but this has been a good World Series.
Great game 6.. Tied up in the 9th...
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HappyBenghazi Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:55:51pm |
re: #164 HoosierHoops
Great game 6.. Tied up in the 9th...
Yeah Cards down to their last strike. Craziness. Don't have a horse really either way so I just want exciting baseball and I've gotten it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:57:50pm |
re: #165 HappyWarrior
I just clicked on the button... thought it was over... Yahoo sports headline right now? And for the last few minutes?
"Rangers closing in on their first-ever title"...
Uh... re-think that one, yahoo.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:00:56pm |
re: #166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Maybe they were right.
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Digital Display Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:01:39pm |
re: #166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I just clicked on the button... thought it was over... Yahoo sports headline right now? And for the last few minutes?
"Rangers closing in on their first-ever title"...
Uh... re-think that one, yahoo.
Wow! 2 Run Homer in the 10th...
I thought I'd be in bed by now..Hard fought series
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:02:20pm |
Never seen that much emotion from a baseball manager.
Ronald Washington's obviously into this...
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prairiefire Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:04:25pm |
re: #164 HoosierHoops
Great game 6.. Tied up in the 9th...
Kansas city hates St. Louis with a burning passion. Go Rangers!
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ProGunLiberal Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:10:34pm |
I just saw this on Wikipedia.
The family of former Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi, who was killed on October 20, will file war crime complaints against NATO in the International Criminal Court, according to the family's lawyer.
Too...much... chutzpah.
Allah just got a headache.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:13:10pm |
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Targetpractice Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:13:40pm |
re: #172 ProLifeLiberal
I just saw this on Wikipedia.
Too...much... chutzpah.
Allah just got a headache.
Yeah, that should go over well.
"They deposed and killed my father!"
"Your father was killing civilians through bombs and naval bombardment."
"Yeah...but...that's different!"
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HappyBenghazi Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:14:31pm |
re: #168 HoosierHoops
Wow! 2 Run Homer in the 10th...
I thought I'd be in bed by now..Hard fought series
And now it gets interesting again.
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Lidane Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:16:55pm |
Completely OT, I just finished watching the new version of Beavis & Butt-Head.
The videos are different and the pop culture references are more current, but the new version is almost identical to the old one. It felt exactly the same. I don't know if that's good or bad. Still, watching them rag on the Jersey Shore douchebags was funny. Haha.
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HappyBenghazi Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:17:20pm |
re: #176 Lidane
Completely OT, I just finished watching the new version of Beavis & Butt-Head.
The videos are different and the pop culture references are more current, but the new version is almost identical to the old one. It felt exactly the same. I don't know if that's good or bad. Still, watching them rag on the Jersey Shore douchebags was funny. Haha.
Good to hear.
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ProGunLiberal Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:21:03pm |
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Lidane Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:21:35pm |
re: #177 HappyWarrior
They had one bit where they ragged on the Jersey Shore douchebags and one where they ragged on that True Life show. Other than that, it was current references (Twilight, The Bachelor) set in the same universe as before -- hippie teacher, drill sergeant PE coach, etc. Even the same doofus kid in a Winger t-shirt. LOL.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:22:05pm |
re: #176 Lidane
I had a Mike Judge comic book before B&B came on. Had a copy.
It got disappeared.
"I am depressed".
-Blazing Saddles
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HappyBenghazi Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:24:11pm |
Wow tied again. 5th time they've tied it tonight.
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blueraven Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:27:33pm |
Good evening all. Wild one in St Louis tonight!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:27:42pm |
re: #179 ProLifeLiberal
Qaddafi's roasting with Hitler now.
Kind of makes you hope, even if the folks who worship Athe are right? And there is no Heaven? There still is a Dante-esque Hell.
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Kragar Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:28:51pm |
re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Kind of makes you hope, even if the folks who worship Athe are right? There still is a Dante-esque Hell.
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Targetpractice Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:30:28pm |
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Lidane Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:31:00pm |
Dear Texas Rangers,
Please win already. I don't think my Facebook friends list can handle the stress any longer.
Sincerely,
Me
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sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:31:33pm |
re: #189 Lidane
Dear Texas Rangers,
Please win already. I don't think my Facebook friends list can handle the stress any longer.
Sincerely,
Me
Sloppy game for the two "best" teams left
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:31:42pm |
re: #187 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Hello Mr. Q-daffy. You're the main course today. And tomorrow. And? Well, the day after that.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:33:21pm |
re: #189 Lidane
My congratulatory message is ready. Waiting for me to hit post.
It says,
"Was rooting for the Cardinals. But, I kind of enjoyed watching Ronald Washington's (the Rangers' manager) emotion during the World Series. Sarah? Shannon? Christopher? Suzanne? Congratulations on being in Texas for the first World Series Championship."
Wasn't really prepared for a "Cards extend it" post.
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HappyBenghazi Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:36:34pm |
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Firstinla Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:37:12pm |
re: #193 Lidane
*sigh*
This shit is going to 12 innings, isn't it?
The 19th inning is the beginning of the 7th game and the score goes back to 0 - 0. They start all over again.
/
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Lidane Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:37:43pm |
re: #194 HappyWarrior
Depends what Cards do here.
I'd like to see the Rangers just end it. If the Cards win, the Rangers might end up being infected with Houston's choke tendencies by proxy, just by virtue of all the people in Houston rooting for them. =P
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Digital Display Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:38:17pm |
re: #193 Lidane
*sigh*
This shit is going to 12 innings, isn't it?
It's a wild game 3...Things I have never seen.. Cards down to one strike twice and came back to tie the game twice...Big Home runs..
Somebody Freaking win..I should have been in bed an hour ago
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Lidane Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:41:27pm |
Goddamnit.
I hope the Rangers don't end up as another Texas team that chokes when it counts. WTF.
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Shiplord Kirel Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:43:36pm |
Urrgghhhh! Undead baseball. The Rangers were one strike from winning it, not once but twice, and the Cardinals rose from the dead, zombie-like, to thwart their designs.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:44:00pm |
My replacement FB post...
Sarah? Shannon? Christopher? Suzanne? Maybe tomorrow.
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HappyBenghazi Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:45:13pm |
I have good friends who like both teams.
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Tigger2 Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:47:29pm |
re: #104 Decatur Deb
That's the worst thing about OWS. The people using the Tea Parties want their crazy shit off the tube before the real election campaign gets under way.
You dont think all those crazy video clips haven't been saved to be pulled out at election time, all of those gems have been stored away.
You don't think all those crazy clips haven't been saves to be pulled out at election time to use, those gems have been stored away.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:47:32pm |
Gosh, what a great series.
With that? I bid you a fair, "G'night Knuckleheads!"
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Lidane Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:47:35pm |
re: #202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That a Perry commentary?
No, more of a Houston sports commentary. =P
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HappyBenghazi Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:48:19pm |
This was like Game 6 of the 1975 world series.
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engineer cat Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:48:30pm |
re: #205 HappyWarrior
I have good friends who like both teams.
that's not legal yet in republican states
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sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:50:58pm |
re: #201 Lidane
Goddamnit.
I hope the Rangers don't end up as another Texas team that chokes when it counts. WTF.
The Mavericks didn't!
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sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:52:30pm |
re: #209 HappyWarrior
This was like Game 6 of the 1975 world series.
gggrrrrrrrrrr
Frakiin Ed Armbrister
GET THE FRAK OUT OF THE WAY, YA BENCH JOCKEY!!!
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HappyBenghazi Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:55:25pm |
re: #213 sattv4u2
gggrrr
Frakiin Ed Armbrister
GET THE FRAK OUT OF THE WAY, YA BENCH JOCKEY!!!
At least the Red Sox make the playoffs unlike my Suck-O's.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:01:12pm |
re: #214 HappyWarrior
At least the Red Sox make the playoffs unlike my Suck-O's.
Yeah
it only took them 85 years to do it consistently!
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Tigger2 Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:05:06pm |
re: #206 Tigger2
You don't think all those crazy video clips haven't been saved to be pulled out at election time, all of those gems have been stored away.
You don't think all those crazy clips haven't been saves to be pulled out at election time to use, those gems have been stored away.
Don't know why that double posted.
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HappyBenghazi Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:05:29pm |
re: #215 sattv4u2
Yeah
it only took them 85 years to do it consistently!
Could be worse man. You could be a Cubbies fan like DF and never even see your team win a pennant.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:09:34pm |
re: #216 Tigger2
Don't know why that double posted.
Didn't here
happens to me at times also
I see my posts double, but others don't
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sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:10:49pm |
re: #217 HappyWarrior
Could be worse man. You could be a Cubbies fan like DF and never even see your team win a pennant.
heh
Funny thing is, my father has been a lifelong Red Sox fan who always said his wish was to at least see them win a World Series before he died
When they did win, I was afraid he was going too!!!!
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engineer cat Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:12:16pm |
re: #216 Tigger2
Don't know why that double posted.
the bits underwent mitosis while in the innertubes
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:13:08pm |
ok, while continuing my research on Dodd-Frank by reading-up on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (The Enterprises)--which was totally NOT interesting. I found this: Plain Language.gov
How very cool.
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Kragar Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:13:53pm |
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blueraven Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:14:04pm |
re: #218 sattv4u2
Didn't here
happens to me at times also
I see my posts double, but others don't
Its a sinister plot by Charles to make us think we are crazy! Or not...
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HappyBenghazi Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:20:36pm |
re: #219 sattv4u2
heh
Funny thing is, my father has been a lifelong Red Sox fan who always said his wish was to at least see them win a World Series before he died
When they did win, I was afraid he was going too!!!
Glad he got to see them. Hopefully I won't be old when the O's finally win one in my lifetime.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:22:38pm |
re: #224 HappyWarrior
Glad he got to see them. Hopefully I won't be old when the O's finally win one in my lifetime.
They've won three in mine!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:25:01pm |
re: #60 Charles
I'm sorry, but I don't understand the point you're trying to make.
Hamas should "co-opt tactics" from OWS? How exactly would that work?
Jesus, how I wish Hamas would co-opt tactics from OWS.
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engineer cat Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:26:31pm |
so, do you think the Philadelphia Athletics will ever play the New York Giants again?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:29:53pm |
re: #20 WindUpBird
I totally need to join Hamas and go out and demand that jews become my dogs
because apparently that's what hippies do, is what i'm told
Really? By whom?
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sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:30:09pm |
re: #227 engineer dog
so, do you think the Philadelphia Athletics will ever play the New York Giants again?
Cornelius McGillicuddy, Sr says they will!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:30:51pm |
re: #228 SanFranciscoZionist
Really? By whom?
I know! They way I understand it, these days, hippies collect Social Security.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:47:58pm |
re: #230 ggt
I know! They way I understand it, these days, hippies collect Social Security.
Hippies
SOCIAL security
SOCIALism
communISM
It all makes sense now!!
//
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:50:12pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:52:15pm |
re: #230 ggt
I know! They way I understand it, these days, hippies collect Social Security.
They're starting to.
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freetoken Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:52:44pm |
Bangkok is starting to be in real trouble:
Thailand May Cut Bangkok Roads to Drain Floods as River Surges
Thai authorities are considering cutting channels through five major Bangkok roads to drain floodwaters seeping into northern parts of the capital as a high tide starting today threatens riverside communities.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:57:08pm |
re: #234 freetoken
Bangkok is starting to be in real trouble:
Thailand May Cut Bangkok Roads to Drain Floods as River Surges
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freetoken Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:58:50pm |
re: #235 sattv4u2
I spent nine nights in Bangkok. Interesting place to visit, but I wasn't left with a desire to return.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:00:40pm |
re: #231 sattv4u2
Hippies
SOCIAL security
SOCIALism
communISMIt all makes sense now!!
//
Ah, you've figured it you --you are soooo smart!
:0
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sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:00:46pm |
re: #236 freetoken
I spent nine nights in Bangkok. Interesting place to visit, but I wasn't left with a desire to return.
I had a layover there. About 8 hours
Never got out of the airport though
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freetoken Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:01:43pm |
Millions to evacuate from Bangkok floods
More than nine million residents are expected to flee Bangkok as floodwaters continue to submerge the Thailand's capital in what has been described as the worst flooding the country has seen in half a century.
[...]
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laZardo Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:13:28pm |
re: #236 freetoken
I spent nine nights in Bangkok. Interesting place to visit, but I wasn't left with a desire to return.
...what comes after making the hard man humble?
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freetoken Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:14:24pm |
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:15:47pm |
re: #95 freetoken
Sorry Matt, but you're just not owning up to basic human (even primate) behavior. All people exhibit jealousy and envy at times, and many people exhibit it quite often and in large amount.
The OWS people are like everyone else - full of all sorts of faults and foibles. I have no doubt that envy is part of the mix of motivators behind the occupiers.
What does this even mean? I am sure that some people at OWS were even motivated by their love to party. And? Taibbi is saying that the charge of jealousy against what OWS essentially stands for is misleading at best because it would mean you could meaningfully separate the success that OWS is supposedly jealous of from how that success was achieved. But OWS is explicitly protesting against the how of success, not the that.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:15:57pm |
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Cheechako Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:17:41pm |
The RNC just sent me their 2012 Presidential Platform Survey. Don't think I'll waste any time filling it out. I'm sure the RNC won't listen to any of my ideas. The survey looks like it's designed to get the responses they want. Besides, if you don't make a donation, they want you to send in $15 just to process the survey.
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Varek Raith Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:19:55pm |
Hoft's Occupy Phoenix Neo-Nazi Previously Attended Tea Party Rallies
For some time, the right-wing media has been attempting to brand Occupy Wall Street and related protests as anti-Semitic. In the latest example, conservative blogger Jim Hoft is pointing to video of heavily armed Neo-Nazi J.T. Ready patrolling the Occupy Phoenix protest and saying nice things about the movement.
Hoft sarcastically concludes, "Yup. They're just like the tea party."
It's worth pointing out that much of the rhetoric Ready spouts during the video -- decrying fiat money, saying that he and others were "exercising our Second Amendment right so that everybody can have a First Amendment right," claiming that Operation Fast and Furious was intended to "take away our rights" and the perpetrators are traitors who should be put to death -- sounds much more like the rhetoric of a conservative protestor than an OWS supporter.
And indeed, that's the problem for Hoft: Ready previously attended and reportedly spoke at Tea Party rallies.
DERP.
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freetoken Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:21:45pm |
re: #242 000G
What does this even mean?
That professions of nobleness ought to be met with skepticism?
Or perhaps Tabbi just poorly writes?
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:24:55pm |
re: #246 freetoken
It would be great if your skepticism was substantiated by anything real instead of vague references to human nature.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:27:01pm |
Mayoral candidate Leland Yee posts to Facebook: I was just asked if I thought the reason San Francisco Police did not show up to OccupySF last night had anything to do with me being there. My answer: Nope, I am pretty sure it is because SFPD decided to use Muni to get them there ;)
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Varek Raith Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:37:14pm |
re: #248 SanFranciscoZionist
Mayoral candidate Leland Yee posts to Facebook: I was just asked if I thought the reason San Francisco Police did not show up to OccupySF last night had anything to do with me being there. My answer: Nope, I am pretty sure it is because SFPD decided to use Muni to get them there ;)
Heh.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:40:29pm |
Andrew Napolitano @ The Daily Show?
Could be fun, haven't watched it yet.
| 251 |
Lidane Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:41:06pm |
From the local news here in Austin, more Texas wingnut fail:
Radio ad refuses service to Obama supporters, Muslims
It was a message intended to bring in some extra business. A radio ad for a concealed handgun class at Keller's Riverside Store in Mason, located in the heart of the Texas Hill Country, is causing controversy.
"We will attempt to teach you all the necessary information you need to obtain your C.H.L.," the ad stated. Forty-five seconds in, the advertisement added a disclaimer.
"If you are a socialist liberal and or voted for the current campaigner in chief, please do not take this class. You have already proven that you cannot make a knowledgeable and prudent decision as under the law."
The ad continues, going on to say,"If you are a non-Christian Arab or Muslim, I will not teach you the class with no shame; I am Crockett Keller, thank you and God bless America."
Behind his store off Highway 87 two hours northwest of Austin, 65-year-old Crockett Keller teaches concealed carry courses to earn a few extra dollars. Courses that, he wants to make clear, are not for everyone.
"I call it exercising my right to choose who I instruct in how to use a dangerous weapon," said Keller.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Oct 27, 2011 11:48:43pm |
re: #251 Lidane
From the local news here in Austin, more Texas wingnut fail:
What a shit-head.
Everyone knows the way to turn a librul into a conservative and a democrat into a repubublican is to get them to shoot a few rounds at the target range!
/
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Lidane Fri, Oct 28, 2011 12:00:35am |
re: #252 ggt
What a shit-head.
Everyone knows the way to turn a librul into a conservative and a democrat into a repubublican is to get them to shoot a few rounds at the target range!
/
What's hilarious is that if he's actively turned anyone who is Muslim away from his classes and there's documented proof of it, then he's breaking the law:
After hearing of Keller's ad, The Texas Department of Public Safety released the following statement:
"The Texas Department of Public Safety certifies individuals to teach coursework and provide training required to be taken by individuals seeking to qualify for a Texas concealed handgun license. Certified instructors are required to comply with all applicable state and federal statutes. Conduct by an instructor that denied service to individuals on the basis of race, ethnicity or religion would place that instructor’s certification by the Department at risk of suspension or revocation. The Department became aware of the statements in question yesterday and has begun an investigation into the matter. The Department will take appropriate administrative action based on the findings from the investigation."
He could lose his certification to teach concealed handgun license classes just by openly being the bigoted prick that he is.
I'd laugh if the DPS ended up pulling his license to teach over this. It would serve him right.
| 254 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 12:04:49am |
I'm off to dreamland.
Have a great morning all!
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windsagio Fri, Oct 28, 2011 12:24:15am |
I mentioned it last night, but its worth repeating. The new Skinny Puppy is absolutely mindblowing
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Oct 28, 2011 1:36:46am |
The night before the burial of her husband’s body, Katherine Cathey refused to leave the casket, asking to sleep next to his body for the last time. The Marines made a bed for her, tucking in the sheets below the flag.
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researchok Fri, Oct 28, 2011 1:53:36am |
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researchok Fri, Oct 28, 2011 1:56:07am |
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Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 2:02:21am |
re: #256 goddamnedfrank
Holy crap Frank that seriously just made me break down crying. My god.
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Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 2:30:40am |
On a slightly lighter mood-- though still involving an injured vet:
[Link: www.doonesbury.com...]
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 2:36:23am |
re: #264 Obdicut
On a slightly lighter mood-- though still involving an injured vet:
[Link: www.doonesbury.com...]
How goes the book?
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Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 2:40:08am |
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 2:42:11am |
re: #266 Obdicut
It's done. Well, I'm editing, but it's done. Wanna read it?
Yes.
That would be awesome.
:)
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Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 2:43:01am |
re: #267 Varek Raith
Just email me your gmail. I'm just my name here at gmail.
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 2:49:27am |
re: #268 Obdicut
Just email me your gmail. I'm just my name here at gmail.
It's giving me an error.
Mine is just my nic here (one word) @ gmail
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Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 2:50:27am |
re: #269 Varek Raith
That's so weird. Other people have said the same thing sometimes. How can it error out?
Wee-rd.
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William of Orange Fri, Oct 28, 2011 2:52:00am |
Must read. The story of one of the really big suckers on financial America's tit:
24 billion down the drain!!...
The sad odyssey of the F-22: America’s big broken toy
The F-22 has been okayed to fly again, after being grounded, cleared, grounded, then cleared once more—all within a year. And yet, the Air Force hasn't fixed the plane's life threatening flaw. It doesn't seem like it cares.The F-22 Raptor program was birthed two decades ago, designed, according to its proud Air Force backers, as a decisive stealth, electronics-jamming, nimblest-of-nimble finger in the eye of the Soviet Union. It would guarantee Communist-free skies, being able to out-maneuver and outgun anything Moscow could scramble.
It was plagued from the start. A year after the USAF and Pentagon high-fived over the super billion dollar plan, the first and only F-22 crashed and exploded due to a computer guidance glitch. The program remained "essentially unaffected," the NYT reported back in 1992, and it continued—with nail-biting Pentagon urging:
quote:
Today, though, at least six other aircraft — the Russian MIG-29, SU-27 and SU-35, the French Mirage 2000 and Rafael and the European Consortium's Eurofighter — threaten to surpass the aging F-15, our current top-of-the-line air-to-air fighter.These words came from Air Force Secretary F. Whitten Peters in a 1999 NYT op-ed. Note that none of those countries posed (or pose) a threat to the US. France is in NATO.
Read the rest in the article.
This is what happens if common sense is lost in government. Wasted dollars on a project that isn't needed. Someone dreams up a solution to a problem no one else sees and this is what you get. A stealth fighter that isn't capable of being stealth, a jet fighter that is more dangerous to it's own crew than an imaginary enemy. Come on! A jetfighter that goes haywire when you pass the dateline???
24 billion dollar. What projects it could fund....
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 2:52:16am |
re: #270 Obdicut
That's so weird. Other people have said the same thing sometimes. How can it error out?
Wee-rd.
I dunno.
Could just be my paranoid security settings.
Got your mail and sent a response.
| 273 |
Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 2:53:48am |
Sheesh, going to get an inch of snow on Saturday.
Too early for this shit!
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 2:54:17am |
re: #272 Varek Raith
I dunno.
Could just be my paranoid security settings.Got your mail and sent a response.
Ok, got it!
Thanks!
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AK-47% Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:02:09am |
Dunno if this came up in the tread already, but OWS is *not* a movement or a party. it is a bunch of people out protesting Wall Street's policies and business practices.
They are all individuals and all have their own personal reasons for being there. Which, unfortunately, makes it all too easy to isolate the most extreme and disruptive elements and hold them up as the embodiment of what OWS is about.
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Ben G. Hazi Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:12:48am |
re: #251 Lidane
From the local news here in Austin, more Texas wingnut fail:
What a dickhead...I hope the TDPS pulls his instructor license.
He may be exercising his right to free speech, as utterly repugnant to normal folks as it is, but when put in the context of acting as an agent of the Texas government in providing required training and certification for the state's gun carry permits, he did a big no-no.
| 278 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:13:25am |
Well, well. Gonna vote for Obama? Not me. Cain? Perry? Nope. Finally, someone is going to Washington who carries with them, my beliefs, my concerns...
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
///
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:18:52am |
Teacher of the Year candidate.
LEBANON, Ohio — A high school teacher was convicted Thursday of having sex with five students, some of them football players, after a judge rejected an insanity defense that argued the teens took advantage of her.
Stacy Schuler was sentenced to a total of four years in prison for the encounters with the Mason High School students at her home in Springboro in southwest Ohio in 2010. She can ask a judge to free her from prison after six months.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Maybe someday women will break that glass ceiling and actually do real prison time for this stuff. Har!!
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Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:23:29am |
Police dickery of the day:
[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]
A man claims U.S. marshals spilled his grandparents' ashes on the floor of his home in an abusive search for a fugitive who looks nothing like him, and who hadn't lived there for 5 years.
Bart Pike sued the United States of America in Federal Court for the marshals' actions in "Operation Falcon," led by a U.S. marshal with help from state and local police.
Operation Falcon was "a nationwide fugitive apprehension initiative," aimed primarily at violent criminals, gang members and sex offenders, according to the U.S. Marshals' website.
In his case, Pike says, it was a boneheaded, abusive raid.
Pike says he "answered the pounding on his front door" in Hendersonville, Tenn., at about 9 a.m. on June 27, 2009, to find a "Task Force" outside, "several police cars and officers." He opened his door and stepped out onto the porch.
"One of the Task Force members asked if they could come into his home and search it," the complaint states. "Pike asked them if they had a warrant. The Task Leader replied he had a warrant but refused to show it to Pike. The arrest warrant, obtained by Pike later, named Elwood R. Johnson on a charge of probation violation. The physical description on the arrest warrant is nowhere close to that of Pike. The Task Leader negligently failed to review the physical description of Elwood R. Johnson on the arrest warrant before authorizing other officers to wrongfully trespass into Pike's home. Before Pike could object further, he was shoved aside and the other officers went into Pike's home without his permission.
"Pike was told they were looking for a person who had lived in his home about five years before. Pike told them he was not that person and objected to their presence. Pike told the officers that he did not know the person they were looking for and asked the officers to leave.
"The officers ignored Pike's request for them to leave, and began to search his home. A state trooper negligently broke the remote to Pike's T.V. set and threw it to the floor. Over Pike's objection, the officers negligently opened a cremation urn containing Pike's grandmother's ashes and a box containing his father's ashes spilling the contents thereof. The officers tossed about Pike's bed mattress, negligently tore one of the interior doors of the house off its hinges, and in the process badly damaged Pike's antique guitar. The negligence of the task leader and officers under his control was the proximate cause of the damage to Pike's real and personal property.
"After damaging the inside of Pike's home and his personal property, the officer left, having never obtained Pike's permission to enter his home and never having shown Pike the supposed warrant."
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Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:40:50am |
Good news about the vet who got injured in Oakland:
By Thursday afternoon, Harken said, Olsen was interacting with his parents, who flew in from Wisconsin in the morning, doing math equations and otherwise showing signs of "high-level cognitive functioning." The doctor said he may require surgery, but that's unlikely.
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EdDantes Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:41:49am |
re: #280 Obdicut
An idea I thought of 30 years ago would prevent anyone who wants to be a police officer from becoming one. Perhaps we should have a draft.
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:42:41am |
re: #282 Obdicut
Good news about the vet who got injured in Oakland:
Let me get this straight doc.
I got beaned in the head and had a fractured skull.
And now you want me to do math?
Piss off!
/
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Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:44:48am |
re: #283 EdDantes
I actually wanted to become a cop, but my wife wouldn't let me.
On the other hand, I wanted to become an Internal Affairs cop.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:47:30am |
re: #285 Obdicut
I actually wanted to become a cop, but my wife wouldn't let me.
On the other hand, I wanted to become an Internal Affairs cop.
See, I'd like to be the cop Denzel Washington played in Training Day.
/
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:48:25am |
re: #285 Obdicut
I actually wanted to become a cop, but my wife wouldn't let me.
On the other hand, I wanted to become an Internal Affairs cop.
IA???
Ah, the cop that everyone can hate!
/
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Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:49:39am |
re: #287 Varek Raith
Highest fatality rate of any officers other than motorcycle cops. Cut out of the brotherhood of police camaraderie. What's not to love?
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RogueOne Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:50:43am |
Before I left the Army I interviewed with a couple of federal agencies, including the DEA, but I decided I was finished with someone else owning me. When I came back to Indy I took the service test for IPD with my buddy, mostly because I hadn't seen him in years and it gave me a chance to spend the day with him. I passed easily but when it came time to take the physical I knew I really didn't want to be a cop so I skipped it. I would have made a lousy cop.
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EdDantes Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:53:28am |
re: #285 Obdicut
I wanted to be a cop when I was twenty and then I had the occasion to see the San Jose P.D. in action. I did not want to be one of them.
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RogueOne Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:58:13am |
Nice story but I thought it was supposed to be Adam and Steve?
Adam And Pete: Love In A Time Of War
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Captain Adam Harmon is now 31 and the intelligence officer for a military police battalion at Fort Riley, Kansas. Pete's picture sits openly on his desk in the headquarters building. And, for the past two weeks, Adam has worn a wedding ring on his left hand.
They were married on Oct. 8, just 19 days after the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell." Because of privacy laws, the Department of Defense has no data on how many gay and lesbian servicemembers have married since the Sept. 20 change. But Adam and Pete are surely among the first couples to test the limits of the Army's acceptance under the new policy.
I notice a couple of things. One, the guy is an Intel Officer (Always Forward, Yield to None!). Two, notice how much support they received even before the repeal of DADT. Three, Iowa!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:00:12am |
This weekend is Guavaween!! Secure your bail bondsman now!!
[Link: www.813area.com...]
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RogueOne Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:19:36am |
You can't eat the rich, meats too old and fatty. You're better off with free-range hippie, much leaner with no preservatives.
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AK-47% Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:23:11am |
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Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:29:07am |
I'm really liking this artist. Goofy, happy, but with an odd sense of doom.
[Link: www.explodingdog.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:30:12am |
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AK-47% Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:31:00am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:31:15am |
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Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:36:36am |
re: #298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My favorite Hindu god:
Image: 450px-Ganesh_%28mus%C3%A9e_d%27art_asiatique_de_Berlin%29.jpg
Lord Ganesha, breaker down of obstacles, fount of wisdom, rat-rider, sweet-eater, chuckle-child of the broken-tusked smile.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:37:41am |
re: #299 ralphieboy
You just reminded me of the book "Life Of Pi". Little Buddhist/Christian/Muslim boy in a lifeboat with a tiger.
I'll go see the movie, but I don't think the movie's necessary.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:44:19am |
“Contrary to what most people say, the most dangerous animal in the world is not the lion or the tiger or even the elephant. It’s a shark riding on an elephant’s back, just trampling and eating everything they see.”
– Jack Handy
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Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:45:22am |
re: #304 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I have been present during the artificial insemination of an elephant.
One word: Epic.
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:46:18am |
re: #304 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
“Contrary to what most people say, the most dangerous animal in the world is not the lion or the tiger or even the elephant. It’s a shark riding on an elephant’s back, just trampling and eating everything they see.”
– Jack Handy
No.
Image: 129021259093923918.jpg
Or
Image: raptor_jetpack.jpg
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:46:51am |
re: #305 Obdicut
I have been present during the artificial insemination of an elephant.
One word: Epic.
Acronym: TMI
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:49:45am |
re: #305 Obdicut
Mouse decides it's gonna have sex with an elephant. Without the elephant noticing, he jumps from a bush onto the elephant and mounts her as she walks. He's going to town and the elephant steps on a thorn and says "Ouch!"
The mouse says, "Take it all, bitch!"
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:57:23am |
re: #308 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Mouse decides it's gonna have sex with an elephant. Without the elephant noticing, he jumps from a bush onto the elephant and mounts her as she walks. He's going to town and the elephant steps on a thorn and says "Ouch!"
The mouse says, "Take it all, bitch!"
That's bad man.
Real bad.
:P
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:58:13am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:59:14am |
re: #309 Varek Raith
If by bad, you mean AWESOME!? You are right.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:04:29am |
re: #312 Obdicut
What's the beef?
For years there has been a gang (no other word for them) of hoodlums terrorizing the Mea Shearim neighborhood, throwing acid at women they think are dressed immodestly, firebombing a book store for selling "heretical" material. Well, the leader of this gang finally received what was coming to him at the hands of a group of Gerr Hasidim who have a reputation as being moderate and pro-Zionist (most serve in the IDF). The media is portraying this as gang warfare over turf.
I know this neighborhood very well, I lived there for a couple of years and frequently visited friends and family who lived right next to "Batei Varsha"
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laZardo Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:05:32am |
re: #310 Alouette
Diamond-encrusted menorah chains, Desert Eagles held sideways. "Don'tchu be half-steppin up on mah yarmulke you muthafekaktes!"
/i'm sorry
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:06:54am |
re: #313 Alouette
Thug in the name of God? Blasphemous thug.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:07:44am |
re: #315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Thug in the name of God? Blasphemous thug.
the shmuck received a righteous beatdown.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:16:57am |
re: #313 Alouette
For years there has been a gang (no other word for them) of hoodlums terrorizing the Mea Shearim neighborhood, throwing acid at women they think are dressed immodestly, firebombing a book store for selling "heretical" material. Well, the leader of this gang finally received what was coming to him at the hands of a group of Gerr Hasidim who have a reputation as being moderate and pro-Zionist (most serve in the IDF). The media is portraying this as gang warfare over turf.
I know this neighborhood very well, I lived there for a couple of years and frequently visited friends and family who lived right next to "Batei Varsha"
Haven't heard of the sicarii since Josephus. Are there no new problems to fight over?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:19:52am |
Good morning, Lizardim. Happy Friday from the wild north country. I'm sorta envious of the New Englanders right now - they have snow, and we do not. Alas.
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Shropshire_Slasher Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:25:44am |
re: #318 thedopefishlives
Everything is white, its quite beautiful, the trees still have their leaves on, not something you see every day.
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Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:27:06am |
re: #313 Alouette
I'm surprised that that level of disorder is allowed by Israel. Seems like it's not going to get any better on its own.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:28:10am |
re: #320 Obdicut
I'm surprised that that level of disorder is allowed by Israel. Seems like it's not going to get any better on its own.
I guess they prefer to let the residents of this ghetto settle among themselves, things always escalate out of control when the police get involved.
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leftynyc Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:30:20am |
re: #26 Gus 802
George Gallowy supports climate change regulations even on a direct action level. Ergo anyone that supports climate change regulation is siding with Galloway? Guilt by associate? Six degrees of separation? Glenn Beck's chalkboard?
Simple minded thinking for simple minded folks. That's who the right appeal to.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:32:36am |
re: #321 Alouette
I guess they prefer to let the residents of this ghetto settle among themselves, things always escalate out of control when the police get involved.
Occupy Oakland nods sagely.
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:33:32am |
Now the weather dude is saying 1 to 3 inches of snow for Saturday.
Too early for this shit!
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:35:35am |
re: #324 Varek Raith
Now the weather dude is saying 1 to 3 inches of snow for Saturday.
Too early for this shit!
WHARS TEH GLOBULL WARRMIN NOW?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:35:47am |
re: #324 Varek Raith
Now the weather dude is saying 1 to 3 inches of snow for Saturday.
Too early for this shit!
Dude, it's snowing here. Warm snow.
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leftynyc Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:36:51am |
re: #59 Alouette
Some asshole over at my blog is claiming that the entire OWS is full of anti-Semites, while the Tea Party is full of Israel lovers.
I don't get enough traffic to ban active posters (unless they're spammers) but I can put his posts on "must be approved"
Maybe ask them to explain this:
[Link: www.addictinginfo.org...]
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:38:54am |
re: #327 leftynyc
Maybe ask them to explain this:
[Link: www.addictinginfo.org...]
Yeah I posted that, and the guy came back with a bunch of links about Jews at Tea Party events. Teh Stupid.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:41:04am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:45:59am |
re: #330 Alouette
Yeah I posted that, and the guy came back with a bunch of links about Jews at Tea Party events. Teh Stupid.
Yes. Because the fact that a Jew shows up at some event magically means that it can't be anti-Semitic. That makes TONS of sense.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:48:14am |
re: #332 thedopefishlives
Yes. Because the fact that a Jew shows up at some event magically means that it can't be anti-Semitic. That makes TONS of sense.
Wingnuts are not known for having tons of sense.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:51:40am |
re: #333 Alouette
Wingnuts are not known for having tons of sense.
Oh, I know. I still continue to be amazed at the numerous ways they come up with to look as stupid as possible.
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:55:41am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:59:45am |
This guy is now a lefty...
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:01:29am |
re: #124 EmmmieG
Ahem. Use a ramp from the boat to the shore. (Even from the boat to a pier, you have to have something.) Then you can use the horse. Or a wheelbarrow, or a pulley system, or something.
Ramp to unload pickles to shore. Put on platform in a water-proof tower. Flood tower to raise the platform up to castle level using a stack of Archimedes Screws.
I play too much Dwarf Fortress. Though in that case the tower would be pumped full of magma and used to spray lava upon invaders from on high.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:08:48am |
re: #335 Varek Raith
How about them explaining Christian Zionism?
They are delighted by Christian Zionism.
Everybody else hates us, but they love us!
Yeah they just love you TO DEATH.
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:09:21am |
Money doesn't buy everything. It just buys heat, air conditioning, health insurance, food, clothing, dental care, a new pair of glasses, shoes, transportation, books, art supplies, heat. Did I say heat?
[Some] of the best things in life are free. But in order to enjoy the free things you have to have material stability.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:11:25am |
Ludwig re-posted these last night, it's important for everyone to bookmark:
What you as an ordinary person can do to stop climate change.
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laZardo Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:12:21am |
re: #340 Gus 802
Money doesn't buy everything. It just buys heat, air conditioning, health insurance, food, clothing, dental care, a new pair of glasses, shoes, transportation, books, art supplies, heat. Did I say heat?
[Some] of the best things in life are free. But in order to enjoy the free things you have to have material stability.
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:13:10am |
Why the feck am I reading the front page of CNS News? What a bunch of trash! No wait I think I figured it out. It raises my blood pressure which in turn warms me up. That must be the reason. It's a survival behavior.
//
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:14:06am |
re: #343 Gus 802
Why the feck am I reading the front page of CNS News? What a bunch of trash! No wait I think I figured it out. It raises my blood pressure which in turn warms me up. That must be the reason. It's a survival behavior.
//
Try booze.:)
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:15:36am |
re: #342 laZardo
Yeah and you know who made all that crap up? Mostly the churches. They made that up to keep the poor people happy and the poor people in their place. It's their method of keeping the underclass subjects of the ruling class who swill their wine at art openings talking about how the best things in life are free only to return home to their multi-million dollar urban penthouses.
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:16:05am |
re: #344 Cannadian Club Akbar
Try booze.:)
Doesn't work. Booze just pisses me off when I'm cold. And I certainly won't drink in the morning.
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leftynyc Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:21:39am |
re: #331 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That's like me posting this...
I think you're missing the point. Any large group is going to have their crazies. Do I hold Rick Perry responsible for this clown's crazy? No. But the right has no problem whatsoever in tarring an entire group over 1 or two people. It's their m.o. which never changes and they're too simpleminded to not see the hypocrisy.
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:21:50am |
30 arrests at the Occupy Nashville site. Funny part is that they released them all after being taken to the jail. The judge refused to sign the warrants. Sounds like a cool judge.
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darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:22:03am |
re: #340 Gus 802
There are only two things money can't buy...true love and homegrown tomatoes.
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laZardo Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:22:25am |
re: #345 Gus 802
Opium of the fucking masses.
I'm still kinda surprised our resident socialist is proud to be Christian though.
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:23:38am |
re: #350 laZardo
Opium of the fucking masses.
I'm still kinda surprised our resident socialist is proud to be Christian though.
Who that?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:23:47am |
re: #350 laZardo
Opium of the fucking masses.
I'm still kinda surprised our resident socialist is proud to be Christian though.
So am I. Just because some Christians are utter blockheads, doesn't mean we all are.
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iossarian Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:32:13am |
re: #355 iossarian
This is the far superior version:
[Video]
PS, ignore the video aspect - the audio is right though.
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darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:34:01am |
Anybody else watch Occupy Home Plate last night? Fuckin' great end to that game. The asshole Fox announcer, when St. Louis tied the game in the 10th said, "Why won't they just go away?" Talk about biased reporting. Fuck you, Fox. I hope the Rangers get trampled so bad tonight people tune out in the third inning to watch "Lockup" on MSNBC because it's more exciting.
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bratwurst Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:35:37am |
re: #357 darthstar
I hope the Rangers get trampled so bad tonight people tune out in the third inning to watch "Lockup" on MSNBC because it's more exciting.
Um, I think a kindergarten t-ball game would be more exciting than Lockup!
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:35:37am |
re: #352 thedopefishlives
So am I. Just because some Christians are utter blockheads, doesn't mean we all are.
You could substitute practically any group for the word "Christians" there unless the term used was "blockheads" itself.
It is simply too easy to use the broad brush, especially in sound bite world where there is no time (or often desire) to explain the nuances that exist.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:35:54am |
re: #357 darthstar
Well, the Cards were down to their last strike twice but they should have just said "They won't go away", IMO.
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bratwurst Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:36:12am |
re: #358 laZardo
Wlewisiii.
sorry for the delay, multitaskin.
I was afraid you were talking about Obama!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:36:13am |
re: #15 Rightwingconspirator
Look in a way this is really good news. As in this is all they got? Practically made up of whole cloth. Lies and distortions. They got nothing.
For each Brietbart video, I can and will do video showing the reality on the ground. Including (if I can) the inevitable exit of OLA from the City Hall lawn. Heh, I only published a third of what I got in video anyway.
Yes, this is all they ever got.
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darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:38:11am |
re: #361 Cannadian Club Akbar
Well, the Cards were down to their last strike twice but they should have just said "They won't go away", IMO.
It's called a valiant fight for survival and should be celebrated. Who gives a crap if Texas has never won the World Series...you have to win it. You can't expect the other team to just lie down and give it to you.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:38:53am |
Even Chinese propaganda outlets now report (and rather well, too) about the German government trojan: [Link: news.xinhuanet.com...]
One of the biggest German police unions came out and said this:
If the analysis of the CCC is true, and the program turn out to be capable of placing compromising material unnoticedlz on the computer of a suspect, then this devalues the forensic analysis and practically destroys communication traces on the digital crime scene as evidence.
Meanwhile, the CCC has discovered a more recent version of the trojan (2010), this one is to be suspected of originating with the Feds:
[Link: translate.google.com...]
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darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:39:10am |
re: #362 bratwurst
I was afraid you were talking about Obama!
I assumed Obama as well, which is why I updinged it...I love that fucking christian socialist.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:40:06am |
re: #364 darthstar
It's called a valiant fight for survival and should be celebrated. Who gives a crap if Texas has never won the World Series...you have to win it. You can't expect the other team to just lie down and give it to you.
See: Eagles, Philadelphia.
/half
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darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:40:48am |
re: #367 Cannadian Club Akbar
See: Eagles, Philadelphia.
/half
Don't they have Michael Vick? Stupid fuckers get what they deserve.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:40:56am |
re: #357 darthstar
Anybody else watch Occupy Home Plate last night? Fuckin' great end to that game. The asshole Fox announcer, when St. Louis tied the game in the 10th said, "Why won't they just go away?" Talk about biased reporting. Fuck you, Fox. I hope the Rangers get trampled so bad tonight people tune out in the third inning to watch "Lockup" on MSNBC because it's more exciting.
I thought the line was clever the way it was. I know the announcers make much of the fact that Texas has never won a World Series, and for the record, Joe Buck can die in a fire for all I care; but overall, I've been okay with the way the games have been called from the booth. I am rooting for Texas, though, living in one of the biggest American League markets in the country.
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:41:07am |
re: #358 laZardo
Wlewisiii.
sorry for the delay, multitaskin.
Roger that. Yeah, being Christian and adhering to the occasional (some say frequent) church dogma are two different things. I would also add that not believing in either is no guarantee that one is not a birdbrain either.
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darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:41:49am |
refresh before quoting 368...bad verb choice.
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:42:48am |
re: #371 darthstar
refresh before quoting 368...bad verb choice.
That's what took down the Roman Empire.
//
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:45:31am |
re: #357 darthstar
Anybody else watch Occupy Home Plate last night? Fuckin' great end to that game. The asshole Fox announcer, when St. Louis tied the game in the 10th said, "Why won't they just go away?" Talk about biased reporting. Fuck you, Fox. I hope the Rangers get trampled so bad tonight people tune out in the third inning to watch "Lockup" on MSNBC because it's more exciting.
Joe Buck over doing baseball is doing FOX's NFL coverage a favor.
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:49:45am |
Sherrod v. Breitbart Appeal Filed 10/21/11
Pass it around. It's sure to piss that nut off.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:52:17am |
re: #374 Gus 802
Sherrod v. Breitbart Appeal Filed 10/21/11
Pass it around. It's sure to piss that nut off.
Yowch. That's pretty stinging.
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iossarian Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:53:35am |
re: #374 Gus 802
Sherrod v. Breitbart Appeal Filed 10/21/11
Pass it around. It's sure to piss that nut off.
I hope he gets taken to the cleaners.
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darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:53:35am |
re: #373 oaktree
Joe Buck over doing baseball is doing FOX's NFL coverage a favor.
Just looked him up. His daddy was a sportscaster, and that's how he got into the business. Ironically, he actually did play by play for the Cards for several years...starting in his early 20s. I feel better knowing he could never actually play a sport. Fucking weasel.
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laZardo Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:54:10am |
So apparently I'd like to bring one of my dad's old Nokia phones with me to the states but he insists on using the charger that came with the phone - which plugs into a different type of outlet and needs its own adapter, making it extra bulky.
This despite the fact that the BL-5C battery used in his phone is exactly the same as the one used in a pair of other Nokia phones I have. Apparently he believes that if the voltage on the charger exceeds the one on the battery, then it won't charge "right."
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iossarian Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:55:23am |
re: #378 laZardo
So apparently I'd like to bring one of my dad's old Nokia phones with me to the states but he insists on using the charger that came with the phone - which plugs into a different type of outlet and needs its own adapter, making it extra bulky.
This despite the fact that the BL-5C battery used in his phone is exactly the same as the one used in a pair of other Nokia phones I have. Apparently he believes that if the voltage on the charger exceeds the one on the battery, then it won't charge "right."
Electricity, eh? That new-fangled stuff, I don't trust it!
| 380 |
darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:55:52am |
re: #376 iossarian
I hope he gets taken to the cleaners.
I just hope he runs out of money to pay his lawyers before it's over.
| 381 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:55:57am |
re: #377 darthstar
Joe Buck's dad is in the hall of fame as a sportscaster, no?
| 382 |
bratwurst Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:56:11am |
Top Herman Cain aide at center of “smoking” ad has a checkered past
Block has been accused of voter suppression and was banned from running Wisconsin political campaigns for three years to settle accusations he coordinated a judge’s re-election campaign with a special interest group.
Records show Block has faced foreclosure on his home, a tax warrant by the Internal Revenue Service and a lawsuit for an unpaid bill. He also acknowledges he was arrested twice for drunken driving.
| 383 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:56:13am |
re: #375 thedopefishlives
Yowch. That's pretty stinging.
Sam Seder was teasing Nutbart about that on Twitter last night. That's how I found out about this document. Saved a copy on my HD. It's public information. So, Nutbart proceeded to have another nervous breakdown on Twitter last night. At one point it seemed like he was Tweeting once every 60 seconds.
| 384 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:56:22am |
re: #377 darthstar
Just looked him up. His daddy was a sportscaster, and that's how he got into the business. Ironically, he actually did play by play for the Cards for several years...starting in his early 20s. I feel better knowing he could never actually play a sport. Fucking weasel.
Given Buck's background and that McCarver used to play for the Cards I figured any sort of "Why won't they go away?" remark was not anti-Cards but simply hyperbole and them working the situation.
| 385 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:56:54am |
re: #383 Gus 802
Sam Seder was teasing Nutbart about that on Twitter last night. That's how I found out about this document. Saved a copy on my HD. It's public information. So, Nutbart proceeded to have another nervous breakdown on Twitter last night. At one point it seemed like he was Tweeting once every 60 seconds.
That there's funny, I don't care who y'are. It's almost like grilling a troll, but more gratifying.
| 386 |
darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:57:02am |
| 387 |
(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:57:37am |
re: #382 bratwurst
Top Herman Cain aide at center of “smoking” ad has a checkered past
Block has been accused of voter suppression and was banned from running Wisconsin political campaigns for three years to settle accusations he coordinated a judge’s re-election campaign with a special interest group.
Records show Block has faced foreclosure on his home, a tax warrant by the Internal Revenue Service and a lawsuit for an unpaid bill. He also acknowledges he was arrested twice for drunken driving.
Sounds like Block being Block.
| 390 |
darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:58:28am |
re: #384 oaktree
Given Buck's background and that McCarver used to play for the Cards I figured any sort of "Why won't they go away?" remark was not anti-Cards but simply hyperbole and them working the situation.
He's still a weasel.
| 391 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:58:48am |
re: #390 darthstar
He's still a weasel.
I don't think either of us is disagreeing with you on that point.
| 392 |
makeitstopghazi Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:59:29am |
re: #355 iossarian
This is the far superior version:
[Video]
I once said that John Lennon sang 'Money" like a plea, while the chick from the Flying Lizards sang it like she wanted to take it from you at knifepoint.
| 393 |
darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:59:46am |
re: #385 thedopefishlives
That there's funny, I don't care who y'are. It's almost like grilling a troll, but more gratifying.
Just watch out for the flare-ups. Breitbart will take a lot of rendering.
| 395 |
makeitstopghazi Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:00:50am |
re: #360 oaktree
You could substitute practically any group for the word "Christians" there unless the term used was "blockheads" itself.
Why can't blockheads be blockheads?
/
| 396 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:01:09am |
re: #393 darthstar
Just watch out for the flare-ups. Breitbart will take a lot of rendering.
Smells like the Purina "Puppy Chow" plant.
//
| 397 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:01:30am |
re: #393 darthstar
Just watch out for the flare-ups. Breitbart will take a lot of rendering.
We'll use a special flavor for this one. A generous dollop of butter to start, finished with Kraft Hickory Smoked Barbecue Sauce.
| 398 |
darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:02:07am |
Remember, remember, the fifth of November
"Anonymous introduces Occupation Fox Hunt," the video's disembodied voice says. "It intends on destroying the Fox News website because their continued right-wing conservative propaganda can no longer be tolerated."
Want to impress us? Take out their satellite feed.
| 399 |
darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:03:08am |
re: #397 thedopefishlives
We'll use a special flavor for this one. A generous dollop of butter to start, finished with Kraft Hickory Smoked Barbecue Sauce.
Just braise his ass in cheap boxed wine.
| 400 |
lawhawk Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:04:32am |
Greets and saluts from the cold and soon to be snowy NYC metro area. Breitbart's latest spin is absolutely atrocious and is the kind of debased moral equivalence that these same right wingers would accuse media outlets of doing when relating to Israel's actions to defend itself by going after terrorists like Hamas.
The OWS protests, at least here in NYC, have generally engaged in nonviolent demonstrations - especially within the confines of Zuccotti Park. They haven't engaged in the kind of graffiti or vandalism seen in some other protest demonstrations (here in the states or around the world). Yes, there have been arrests - whether it's for resisting arrest, entering areas they shouldn't (like going onto the roadway for the Brooklyn Bridge). There are multiple groups that are protesting under an OWS banner - but some are looking for confrontations while others are looking to air their grievances against a corrupt/decadent/unresponsive Wall Street and government policies that have led to a growing disparity between the rich and everyone else.
Much more here (including updates on the OWS Albany protest).
| 402 |
(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:05:33am |
re: #398 darthstar
Remember, remember, the fifth of November
Want to impress us? Take out their satellite feed.
This?:
| 403 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:05:37am |
re: #399 darthstar
Just braise his ass in cheap boxed wine.
Nahh, we can't resort to such barbarian flavors. We are sophisticated lizardoid people. Properly grilled troll buttocks are our specialty.
| 404 |
OhNoZombies! Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:07:37am |
Oooh! I've never tasted troll before. I wouldn't mind testing out my baby lizard teeth on one.
| 405 |
darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:07:55am |
| 406 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:08:25am |
re: #404 OhNoZombies!
Oooh! I've never tasted troll before. I wouldn't mind testing out my baby lizard teeth on one.
We had a buffet last night.:)
| 407 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:10:00am |
re: #406 Cannadian Club Akbar
We had a buffet last night.:)
I always miss all the fun. Wonder if there will be any dead thread trolls this morning, though.
| 408 |
OhNoZombies! Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:10:17am |
I'll have to go back and check it out. You think there'll be leftovers? I make a tasty homemade BBQ sauce...
| 409 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:10:50am |
re: #400 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the cold and soon to be snowy NYC metro area. Breitbart's latest spin is absolutely atrocious and is the kind of debased moral equivalence that these same right wingers would accuse media outlets of doing when relating to Israel's actions to defend itself by going after terrorists like Hamas.
The OWS protests, at least here in NYC, have generally engaged in nonviolent demonstrations - especially within the confines of Zuccotti Park. They haven't engaged in the kind of graffiti or vandalism seen in some other protest demonstrations (here in the states or around the world). Yes, there have been arrests - whether it's for resisting arrest, entering areas they shouldn't (like going onto the roadway for the Brooklyn Bridge). There are multiple groups that are protesting under an OWS banner - but some are looking for confrontations while others are looking to air their grievances against a corrupt/decadent/unresponsive Wall Street and government policies that have led to a growing disparity between the rich and everyone else.
Much more here (including updates on the OWS Albany protest).
When do the OWS Feats of Strength begin?
// ;)
| 410 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:14:03am |
re: #407 thedopefishlives
I always miss all the fun. Wonder if there will be any dead thread trolls this morning, though.
They only come out at night...
| 411 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:14:20am |
re: #395 makeitstop
Why can't blockheads be blockheads?
/
Because it then triggers the No True Blockhead Fallacy. The leftovers are then forced to work on the Cain campaign, or pro bono work for Bachmann in New Hampshire.
/
| 412 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:14:47am |
re: #410 Decatur Deb
They only come out at night...
I dunno. We've had a few concern trolls pop up in the mornings. Usually happens if the previous thread was a creationism or global warming thread, though.
| 413 |
(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:14:50am |
re: #405 darthstar
My flash plugin is fucked up...I'll need words.
[Link: www.tgdaily.com...] [Link: www.examiner.com...]
| 414 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:15:52am |
re: #406 Cannadian Club Akbar
We had a buffet last night.:)
Oh, did Major Kong finally come out and play?
| 415 |
Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:16:28am |
re: #410 Decatur Deb
They only come out at night...
Nah. They show up whenever they damn well please. Seems to depend mostly on the timing of the target thread.
| 416 |
iossarian Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:17:01am |
| 417 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:17:08am |
re: #414 oaktree
Oh, did Major Kong finally come out and play?
I saw it in the bottom comments but I wasn't here when it was.
| 418 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:17:26am |
Still waiting for the wingnuts to wake up and discover that the president will celebrate the Hindu holiday.
| 419 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:18:23am |
re: #418 Gus 802
Still waiting for the wingnuts to wake up and discover that the president will celebrate the Hindu holiday.
SOOPER SEKRIT HINDU SOCIALIST OUT TO DESTROY AMERIKA!!!!1!11one
| 420 |
Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:18:47am |
re: #418 Gus 802
Still waiting for the wingnuts to wake up and discover that the president will celebrate the Hindu holiday.
Hindus fight Muslims, so they're probably okay with it-- this is just part of Obama's Campaign of Lies.
| 421 |
darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:19:35am |
re: #414 oaktree
Oh, did Major Kong finally come out and play?
His avatar was too big and he crashed on take-off.
| 422 |
Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:19:57am |
re: #419 thedopefishlives
SOOPER SEKRIT HINDU SOCIALIST OUT TO DESTROY AMERIKA!!!1!11one
But...wait. Hindus hate Muslims, right? But they also take our jobs! He's just trying to confuse us!
| 423 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:20:08am |
re: #400 lawhawk
Do you think there's any realistic chance of police winning a suit against a protester? It seems like kind of a hollow threat and the cops will probably never be able to collect damages. I think it's intended to be a deterrent to violence but I don't think it'll make any difference.
| 425 |
darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:20:25am |
re: #418 Gus 802
Still waiting for the wingnuts to wake up and discover that the president will celebrate the Hindu holiday.
Hiduslim!
| 426 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:21:30am |
| 427 |
darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:26:39am |
| 428 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:27:23am |
Occupy Portland fears it has lost up to $20,000 in donations
Organizers of Occupy Portland say they fear as much as $20,000 donated to the group through a PayPal account has disappeared.
...
The "registered agent" for the incorporated body is listed as Reid Jackson of Hillsboro. LeDoux said Jackson was also on Occupy Portland's finance committee.In a telephone interview, Jackson said she undertook the incorporation "to protect these people. ... I've tried explaining it to them, but they won't listen to me. There is someone who has infiltrated the group and is trying to capitalize on the money."
Jackson would not identify the "infiltrator," but she said that disputes over the finance committee had escalated to the point where she had received death threats.
| 430 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:28:49am |
re: #429 lawhawk
Page it!
Maybe. I'd have to find some red meat in the document first. Would be nice if we could upload PDFs here. Or maybe embed a PDF.
| 432 |
Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:30:49am |
re: #430 Gus 802
To me it says the other lawyers are wrong, and where they're not wrong, they're dumb.
| 433 |
lawhawk Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:31:27am |
re: #423 Killgore Trout
There's a few interrelated issues. One would be that workers comp would likely supersede the civil action to recover from the defendant in a legal action. However, if a civil action can proceed, it would be like any other assault/battery case in NY. The police officer, as the plaintiff would have the burden of showing that the defendant assaulted him or her.
Thing is that we usually don't get such warnings when police officers are injured in the line of duty (such things happen all the time). We don't hear about a cop suing a drug dealer who shoots and injures the cop in the line of duty - yet they're going after these protesters with a threat of a lawsuit. That's pretty ballsy.
| 435 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:32:21am |
re: #430 Gus 802
Page 4:
Because Defendants used the Internet to publish the edited video and falsestatements to a worldwide audience, news of the blog post spread quickly. Mediaoutlets across the country immediately and repeatedly aired the misleading videoclips and echoed Defendants’ defamatory claims. Within hours, Plaintiff’ssupervisors at USDA demanded her resignation. Eventually, the NAACPpublished the full video of Plaintiff’s speech, leading to apologies from seniorgovernment officials and the news media. Defendants, however, have notapologized and instead stand by their false statements. Indeed, the blog postremains accessible on Mr. Breitbart’s website to this day. Defendants’ defamatoryconduct has caused enduring damage to Plaintiff’s reputation, as well as emotionaldistress and financial damages from the loss of her employment at the USDA
| 436 |
darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:32:52am |
re: #434 laZardo
that is
the best letter
He's come a little way since the Fresh Prince days (with that stupid fucking Gumby hair-do).
| 437 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:33:23am |
[Link: articles.philly.com...]
So, how soon until we start seeing the backlash of "Brazil is buying out America", "Fear Big Brazil!", "The Portugese Peril", etc. etc.? We've had such every time there is any apparent surge in foreign buying in the U.S. (Japan, China, etc.)
| 438 |
laZardo Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:33:44am |
re: #436 darthstar
He's come a little way since the Fresh Prince days (with that stupid fucking Gumby hair-do).
At least it wasn't the Kid-from-Kid-&-Play hairdo.
| 439 |
darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:35:11am |
re: #438 laZardo
At least it wasn't the Kid-from-Kid-&-Play hairdo.
That's the hair! Didn't Will Smith used to have that?
| 440 |
leftynyc Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:35:20am |
| 441 |
Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:35:36am |
re: #420 Obdicut
Hindus fight Muslims, so they're probably okay with it-- this is just part of Obama's Campaign of Lies.
Beaten to the punch.
On a vaguely related note, I just recently discovered that an acquaintance (Much to my dismay) who is massively anti-Muslim, racist, misogynist, anti-progress, ultra-conservative, homophobic, transphobic, faux intellectual, and dresses like he's from the 1930s (I'm sure I'm missing a few things, but yes, I had to list all that out because he's actually THAT bad. Let me put it this way, he said the only reason he wouldn't want to bring back chattel marriages was because he figured we find some way to "screw it up") has at some point in the last couple of years reverted back to Christianity from Hinduism.
What reason did he give? He had a crisis of faith after his local Hindu community continued to welcome someone who divorced and. gasp, later took along his new girlfriend to events. Said it wasn't the proper Indian way or some shit. Said this made him realize he didn't need an 'exotic' religion like Hinduism, just God, which apparently actually means he needs Jesus (He actually stated the three in one part as the reason he picked it over Judaism).
Why is this conversion interesting? Well, because I had always figured he hated Muslims because he was one of those radical converts that gets confused about what it really means to be X and goes overboard on some aspects they think are important to the religion. Now, I'm starting to think he picked it specifically because he thought it was anti-Islam and ultra conservative.
Yeah, I know this is a rambling rant, but my god, this dude fucking pisses me off and I need to vent a bit. Gah!
| 443 |
OhNoZombies! Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:37:07am |
Do wingnuts know the difference between Hundus and Muslims, or do they all look like Mexicans to them?
//
| 444 |
darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:37:25am |
| 445 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:38:12am |
re: #443 OhNoZombies!
Do wingnuts know the difference between Hundus and Muslims, or do they all look like
MexicansAsians! to them?
//
FTFY
Asians. Remember the infamous Sharon Angle gaffe?
| 446 |
lawhawk Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:38:49am |
re: #430 Gus 802
From page 7:
On April 18, 2011, Defendants jointly filed two motions in response to the Complaint. First, they filed a Rule 12(b) motion to dismiss or, in the alternative, to transfer. See Defs.’ Rule 12(b) Mem. (Ex. 2). As relevant here, the Rule 12(b)(6)section of the motion argued that the textual statements in the blog post were “non-actionable opinion” and thus failed to state a claim. Id. at 28-44. The motion did not, however, challenge the defamatory nature of the deceptively edited video clips themselves, which independently defamed Plaintiff, cast her in a damaging falselight, and intentionally inflicted emotional distress. Compl. ¶¶ 45, 93(a).
Interesting that they challenged that the statements as non-actionable and not whether they were or weren't defamatory. In other words, they're conceding that the statements were defamatory, but that they were nonactionable as "opinion". Problem is that they were declaring those statements as fact by purposefully omitting key portions of her speech that showed she was saying the opposite of what Breitbart claimed.
But as far as substantive issues are concerned, they moved to dismiss Breitbart's appeal or, in the alternative, affirmed the district court's ruling of same.
| 447 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:39:26am |
re: #441 Simply Sarah
I recall reading in _Challenge of a Liberal Faith_ about how one decides if they need a religious group and then attempts to select the right group, but I think this person has a warped set of selection criteria.
O_o
| 448 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:40:00am |
re: #446 lawhawk
From page 7:
Interesting that they challenged that the statements as non-actionable and not whether they were or weren't defamatory. In other words, they're conceding that the statements were defamatory, but that they were nonactionable as "opinion". Problem is that they were declaring those statements as fact by purposefully omitting key portions of her speech that showed she was saying the opposite of what Breitbart claimed.
But as far as substantive issues are concerned, they moved to dismiss Breitbart's appeal or, in the alternative, affirmed the district court's ruling of same.
You're probably more qualified to page this. ;)
| 449 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:40:24am |
Alrighty. I need to Occupy Office Depot and get some resumes run off so eventually I can Occupy Job. See ya'll this afternoon.:)
| 450 |
lawhawk Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:40:37am |
re: #432 Obdicut
The lawyers are doing what they have to in trying to find law (or pounding on the table when the facts and law are against them). SOP. Bretbart's lawyers are in an unenviable position of defending the indefensible so were trying to weasel out on procedural grounds, but the court (and the district court) ruled against them.
| 451 |
Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:41:12am |
re: #447 oaktree
I recall reading in _Challenge of a Liberal Faith_ about how one decides if they need a religious group and then attempts to select the right group, but I think this person has a warped set of selection criteria.
O_o
Oh, that wouldn't be the only thing about him that's warped.
| 452 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:41:34am |
re: #449 Cannadian Club Akbar
Alrighty. I need to Occupy Office Depot and get some resumes run off so eventually I can Occupy Job. See ya'll this afternoon.:)
Don't forget that Occupy: Local Bar is scheduled for 1630 sharp.
| 453 |
laZardo Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:41:46am |
re: #446 lawhawk
...is it wrong that I read that legalspeak in Groucho Marx's voice?
| 454 |
Vicious Babushka Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:42:03am |
There is a massive phone switch upgrade going on tonight and tomorrow and I have to make sure that all of the apps I support are ready to pull data from the new source.
There are sure to be some last minute fuckups.
| 455 |
Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:42:15am |
| 456 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:42:26am |
re: #453 laZardo
...is it wrong that I read that legalspeak in Groucho Marx's voice?
We'll send a five-year-old right over...
| 457 |
RadicalModerate Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:43:02am |
re: #442 Gus 802
Next day...
Occupy Portland says issues about donations, website, incorporation resolved
Dammit Gus, there you go again confusing the issue with those pesky little facts.
| 458 |
Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:43:54am |
re: #454 Alouette
There is a massive phone switch upgrade going on tonight and tomorrow and I have to make sure that all of the apps I support are ready to pull data from the new source.
There are sure to be some last minute fuckups.
Well, hopefully. I mean, if everything seemed to work fine, I'd be terrified at just how bad whatever was being missed could be.
| 459 |
iossarian Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:44:03am |
re: #442 Gus 802
Next day...
Occupy Portland says issues about donations, website, incorporation resolved
What a difference
A day makes.
Twenty-four little hours.
What a difference
A day makes.
And the difference
Is you.
| 460 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:44:27am |
re: #455 Varek Raith
Romney Flips To Denial: ‘We Don’t Know What’s Causing Climate Change’
lol
The Giant Panderer strikes again!
(How soon until a world-wide bamboo shortage is reported?)
| 461 |
laZardo Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:44:32am |
re: #452 oaktree
Don't forget that Occupy: Local Bar is scheduled for 1630 sharp.
What are you, some kind of publican?
/
| 462 |
OhNoZombies! Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:44:41am |
re: #445 Gus 802
I get so confused now. Multiculturalism is destroying good 'ol fashioned racism.
//
| 463 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:45:03am |
re: #455 Varek Raith
Romney Flips To Denial: ‘We Don’t Know What’s Causing Climate Change’
lol
*in his best Red Foreman impression* DUMBASS.
| 464 |
iossarian Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:45:20am |
re: #459 iossarian
What a difference
A day makes.Twenty-four little hours.
What a difference
A day makes.And the difference
Is you.
It's turning into a real musical morning here!
| 465 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:46:08am |
re: #457 RadicalModerate
Dammit Gus, there you go again confusing the issue with those pesky little facts.
Was pretty simple. Even updated by the same author the very next day. Apparently there's some ongoing internal mix-up.
I guess the original message is supposed to mean "OWS is populated with a bunch of thieves!"
If they want a thief the might want to look up Kinde Durkee.
| 466 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:46:46am |
re: #461 laZardo
What are you, some kind of publican?
/
If I keep going back does that make me a RE-publican?
(hmm, if it does I might not want to be sober.)
/
| 467 |
Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:47:22am |
I'm feeling the urge to whack Romney upside the head with the back of my hand.
/
He makes my head hurt.
| 468 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:47:58am |
re: #442 Gus 802
Next day...
Occupy Portland says issues about donations, website, incorporation resolved
Even more good news...
Friday, Pink Martini and singer Storm Large are giving a free noon concert and singalong at Pioneer Courthouse Square in support of the Occupy movement in Portland and around the world.
I love Storm Large. One of Portland's most talented residents.
| 469 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:49:15am |
Romney's a pathetic creature.
One of several in the GOP line-up of course.
They're all unique in their "patheticalness".
| 470 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:49:23am |
re: #442 Gus 802
Next day...
Occupy Portland says issues about donations, website, incorporation resolved
They need a good banker to manage their funds.
| 471 |
Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:49:41am |
Relevant to Romney.
Brian - Do you ever listen to yourself talk?
Peter Griffin - I drift in and out.
| 472 |
darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:50:18am |
re: #460 oaktree
The Giant Panderer strikes again!
(How soon until a world-wide bamboo shortage is reported?)
Someone should photoshop him onto a panda...going into 2012 known as the "Pander Bear" will hurt him nationally, but help with solidifying his support in the Log Cabin.
| 473 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:50:29am |
re: #468 Killgore Trout
Even more good news...
I love Storm Large. One of Portland's most talented residents.
[Link: stormlarge.com...]
Mrow. //
| 474 |
Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:51:05am |
Not gonna get started on Romney again. Nope. Nope. Too angry. Too personal, Too many feelings of betrayal.
| 475 |
Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:51:47am |
| 476 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:51:58am |
re: #467 Varek Raith
I'm feeling the urge to whack Romney upside the head with the back of my hand.
/
He makes my head hurt.
Or at least make him kneel on uncooked rice for a couple of hours. Un-popped popcorn also works.
//
| 477 |
Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:53:09am |
re: #476 Gus 802
Or at least make him kneel on uncooked rice for a couple of hours. Un-popped popcorn also works.
//
Sadistic!
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darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:53:11am |
re: #474 Simply Sarah
Not gonna get started on Romney again. Nope. Nope. Too angry. Too personal, Too many feelings of betrayal.
Betrayal? Ooh...give us the gory details!
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OhNoZombies! Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:55:04am |
re: #470 Decatur Deb
Might I suggest someone from Bank of America?
Maybe one of the 20,000 who'll be looking for work...
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:59:55am |
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:04:12am |
The Breitbart appeal I linked is embeddable. Don't know what to say other than presenting it for discussion and/or general heckling towards Andrew. Any suggestions?
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Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:04:43am |
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darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:05:49am |
re: #483 Obdicut
Fucking hell, this creep just added me on Google+.
[Link: 100777.com...]
What a putz.
Did you confirm him?
| 485 |
Obdicut Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:06:58am |
re: #484 darthstar
I guess I could create a 'circle' for holocaust deniers.
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darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:08:11am |
re: #483 Obdicut
Fucking hell, this creep just added me on Google+.
[Link: 100777.com...]
What a putz.
Hey, the Illuminati AND the United Nations - in the same article! Satan!
[Link: 100777.com...]
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darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:08:36am |
| 488 |
Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:08:55am |
| 489 |
Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:09:43am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:10:37am |
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Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:11:27am |
re: #489 Varek Raith
Back off, I called that level of hell!
Interesting place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
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RadicalModerate Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:11:34am |
re: #472 darthstar
Someone should photoshop him onto a panda...going into 2012 known as the "Pander Bear" will hurt him nationally, but help with solidifying his support in the Log Cabin.
That has already been done, years ago. During the 1992 Presidential campaign, Paul Tsongas used this label against Bill Clinton, going as far as having his supporters show up at Clinton campaign stops wearing bear suits. He was a hell of a politician up until his death in 1997. And one final kicker - Tsongas actually was a Romney supporter in the 1996 Massachusetts Governor's race.
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:12:35am |
re: #491 Simply Sarah
Interesting place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
It'll be great once I kick all the current denizens up a level.
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Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:16:35am |
re: #492 RadicalModerate
That has already been done, years ago. During the 1992 Presidential campaign, Paul Tsongas used this label against Bill Clinton, going as far as having his supporters show up at Clinton campaign stops wearing bear suits. He was a hell of a politician up until his death in 1997. And one final kicker - Tsongas actually was a Romney supporter in the 1996 Massachusetts Governor's race.
Huh? We didn't have a race for governor in 1996.
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darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:18:22am |
re: #494 laZardo
And it moves us all~
And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look
Behind from where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game
--Joni
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darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:19:06am |
re: #495 Simply Sarah
Huh? We didn't have a race for governor in 1996.
That's why it didn't get a lot of press.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:19:20am |
re: #279 Cannadian Club Akbar
Teacher of the Year candidate.
LEBANON, Ohio — A high school teacher was convicted Thursday of having sex with five students, some of them football players, after a judge rejected an insanity defense that argued the teens took advantage of her.Stacy Schuler was sentenced to a total of four years in prison for the encounters with the Mason High School students at her home in Springboro in southwest Ohio in 2010. She can ask a judge to free her from prison after six months.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]Maybe someday women will break that glass ceiling and actually do real prison time for this stuff. Har!!
The one that made the news years ago --got out and married the guy. Can't remember the names.
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RadicalModerate Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:20:33am |
re: #495 Simply Sarah
Huh? We didn't have a race for governor in 1996.
Yikes. Misread the quote. It was Romney who crossed over in '92 to support Tsongas.
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theheat Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:21:50am |
re: #499 OhNoZombies!
Yeah, it was her. She's a local.
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OhNoZombies! Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:24:12am |
re: #501 theheat
Lebanon is about 200miles south of me.
Still to close.
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darthstar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:25:51am |
re: #501 theheat
Yeah, it was her. She's a local.
The Ohio woman bears a striking resemblance to someone, you betcha, but I can't think of her name, also...too.
Image: 6287834248_b0d069a345.jpg
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:26:01am |
re: #295 ralphieboy
Obama to honor Hindu Holiday
Outrage in 5,4,3,2...
[Link: www.salon.com...]
Bush started the hosting of a Diwali event every year, starting 2003.
Bush did a lot of pleasant little multicultural things I never found out about until wingnuts started blaming Obama for continuing them.
| 505 |
RadicalModerate Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:27:55am |
The loons over at the Liberty Counsel have gone completely off the rails.
Liberty Counsel: SPLC Doing To Us Just What Nazis Did To Jews
| 506 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:27:59am |
Looks like there may be more cyberterrorism from Anon.
Anonymous to hack TSX?
As the Occupy movement fizzles out in many major cities across the globe, there appears to be no end in site for Occupy Toronto with protesters blocking lunch hour traffic in the city's financial district Thursday and a new video warning sympathizers plan to hack Toronto Stock Exchange computer systems.
Anon denies.
Hacker threats to TSX and Facebook a hoax, group says
A number of Anonymous members found in an online chatroom on Thursday morning dismissed the threat on the TSX as a hoax. They also said that a rumoured takedown of Facebook on Nov. 5 was also not true.
“We are nice people,” wrote one member in the predictably anonymous chatroom.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:28:02am |
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Lidane Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:28:43am |
re: #374 Gus 802
Sherrod v. Breitbart Appeal Filed 10/21/11
Pass it around. It's sure to piss that nut off.
ROFL. That's awesome. Charles should post that with Drudge sirens, just for fun.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:28:52am |
re: #314 laZardo
Diamond-encrusted menorah chains, Desert Eagles held sideways. "Don'tchu be half-steppin up on mah yarmulke you muthafekaktes!"
/i'm sorry
I think these guys wear streimels. Hardcore.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:29:26am |
re: #317 Decatur Deb
Haven't heard of the sicarii since Josephus. Are there no new problems to fight over?
When all else fails, Jews can always savage one another over points of piety. It has never, ever failed us, this tactic.
//
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:30:46am |
re: #327 leftynyc
Maybe ask them to explain this:
[Link: www.addictinginfo.org...]
That's about his religious beliefs, and if you're not tolerant of his religious beliefs, you're a hypocrite, because liberals are always telling people to be tolerant!!!
Also, that has nothing to do with how he feels about anything!!!
| 512 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:31:47am |
re: #330 Alouette
Yeah I posted that, and the guy came back with a bunch of links about Jews at Tea Party events. Teh Stupid.
So then you show him the Kol Nidrei at Occupy LA...
Or don't. I'm still pissed about how incessantly that was referenced.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:33:08am |
re: #332 thedopefishlives
Yes. Because the fact that a Jew shows up at some event magically means that it can't be anti-Semitic. That makes TONS of sense.
Made some sense to folks around here when we were talking about OWS.
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:36:28am |
re: #508 Lidane
ROFL. That's awesome. Charles should post that with Drudge sirens, just for fun.
This is what I came up with:
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Killgore Trout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:37:47am |
re: #514 SanFranciscoZionist
Made some sense to folks around here when we were talking about OWS.
I gave up with "what if this was at a tea party instead of ows?" OWS is judged by a different standard.
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lawhawk Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:40:39am |
On this day in 1904, the NYC subway system opened its first line.
It is now the nation's largest transit system (carrying more passengers than nearly all other transit systems in the nation combined, and that separates out the SI Railway which is part of the MTA and PATH, which runs service in and out of Manhattan).
The MTA subways are the 6th most used system in the world (Tokyo is first), but it has more stations and track miles than nearly every other system on that list.
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Lidane Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:40:48am |
Better late than never, I suppose:
UK Gives Women Equality in Royal Succession For First Time in 300 Years
If Prince William and Kate Middleton’s first child is a girl, she will be queen, thanks to historic changes adopted this week by the 16 nations in the Commonwealth Realm that recognize the Queen of England as monarch. Scrapping a 300-year-old law, the nations unanimously agreed to give women equal preference to succeed the throne for the first time, and also threw out old rules that barred the monarch from marrying a Catholic. Previously, women could only take the throne if there were no male heirs.
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makeitstopghazi Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:41:47am |
Poor Fox News. Their polls have a liberal bias...
A majority of Americans think President Obama’s economic policies would have positive results if they were implemented, according to a new Fox News poll released Thursday. 52 percent of respondents said Obama’s “ideas are good, but he hasn’t been able to get them implemented,” against 37 percent who think his “ideas are bad, and too many of them are being implemented.”
Ailes must be apoplectic over this. Heh.
| 520 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:42:58am |
re: #501 theheat
Yeah, it was her. She's a local.
From the wiki, her Dad was a politician (R) and had two children by a mistress?
Strange family.
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Lidane Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:43:01am |
re: #519 makeitstop
Poor Fox News. Their polls have a liberal bias...
Ailes must be apoplectic over this. Heh.
I was just about to post that.
Hah! I bet Hannity and all the morans over at Fox Business did a double take when they saw that.
| 522 |
wrenchwench Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:44:20am |
re: #518 Lidane
Better late than never, I suppose:
UK Gives Women Equality in Royal Succession For First Time in 300 Years
Thanks to the NPR coverage of that this morning, I'va had this song stuck in my head for hours:
Which of course has nothing to do with royal succession. (Watch out for the screaming at the beginning.)
| 523 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:44:34am |
re: #518 Lidane
Better late than never, I suppose:
UK Gives Women Equality in Royal Succession For First Time in 300 Years
I posted something about this -- it seems insane to me that it is even an issue in 2011 -- Royal Line of Succession? WTF?
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RadicalModerate Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:45:39am |
Wow. This is being reported by FoxNews?
Cain's Cigarette-Puffing Aide Has Checkered Past
Meet Mark Block, Cain's unorthodox campaign manager. Perhaps no one is more responsible for the Georgia businessman's meteoric rise in the presidential polls than Block, a Republican strategist and tea party leader who's left a trail of questionable campaign work behind him.
Block has been accused of voter suppression and was banned from running Wisconsin political campaigns for three years to settle accusations he coordinated a judge's re-election campaign with a special interest group.
Records show Block has faced foreclosure on his home, a tax warrant by the Internal Revenue Service and a lawsuit for an unpaid bill. He also acknowledges he was arrested twice for drunken driving.
| 525 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:46:19am |
I liked this Pages Post.
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:46:41am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:47:36am |
Morning all!
I slept all thru the night last night --still feel shitty tho.
How has your morning been and do you have a fun plans for the weekend?
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Lidane Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:48:07am |
We'll take America to the brink of default to cut government spending!
Or not:
Republicans Cry Uncle On Spending … When Cuts Hit Home
It took months of fighting — the threat of a government shutdown, the graver threat of a default on the national debt, and now a new threat of major, automatic cuts to Medicare and defense programs — but Congress’ deficit obsession has finally exposed the rarest of all species: Republican Keynesians.
With just a under a month until the deficit Super Committee must recommend policies that cut the 10 year deficit by $1.2 trillion, members of the Republican party — the same party that’s been on the war path for deep spending cuts, and that decries President Obama’s “failed stimulus” — are making uncharacteristic arguments against slashing spending. Trim too much, too quickly, they warn, and people will lose their jobs!
Call them Defense Keynesians — GOP members who represent defense interests, veterans, service members, contractors, and others whose livelihoods would be impacted by deep cuts to defense spending. They don’t want the Super Committee to cut much more, if any, from defense, and they certainly don’t want to pull the so-called “trigger” which would cut defense across the board by about $600 billion starting in 2013, if the panel gridlocks.
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leftynyc Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:48:20am |
re: #511 SanFranciscoZionist
That's about his religious beliefs, and if you're not tolerant of his religious beliefs, you're a hypocrite, because liberals are always telling people to be tolerant!!!
Also, that has nothing to do with how he feels about anything!!!
LOL - Wow - you channel wingnut really well. Can you teach me how so I can communicate with them? Cuz I'm sure the topic of this thread is gong to wind up in my inbox before the weekend is out.
| 530 |
Vicious Babushka Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:49:42am |
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Lidane Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:52:24am |
re: #524 RadicalModerate
Wow. This is being reported by FoxNews?
I can't wait for all the Freepers on the "Cain Train" to start bitching about those librul commies at Fox News for posting that. Haha.
| 532 |
leftynyc Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:52:55am |
re: #524 RadicalModerate
Wow. This is being reported by FoxNews?
The establishment wants Romney and faux is most definitely establishment. My dad thought Perry would be the nominee but I told him the estab guys would shoot him in the head before that happens. Let me know when they report something negative about Mitt and then I'll pay attention.
| 533 |
RadicalModerate Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:54:36am |
re: #531 Lidane
I can't wait for all the Freepers on the "Cain Train" to start bitching about those librul commies at Fox News for posting that. Haha.
The comments over at Fox are kind of weird, since Block is a hardcore Tea Partier - they really don't know whether to try to support him or condemn him. Of course, they are also saying that this story is proof that FoxNews isn't slanted because they reported on one of their own.
| 534 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:55:06am |
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OhNoZombies! Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:55:55am |
Obama goes around Congress, so Boner questions Constitutionality on Laura Ingraham's show.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:57:20am |
re: #505 RadicalModerate
The loons over at the Liberty Counsel have gone completely off the rails.
Liberty Counsel: SPLC Doing To Us Just What Nazis Did To Jews
Next up, Liberty Counsel is Rosa Parks 2.0 for writing something about it. e_e
| 537 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:57:52am |
re: #529 leftynyc
LOL - Wow - you channel wingnut really well. Can you teach me how so I can communicate with them? Cuz I'm sure the topic of this thread is gong to wind up in my inbox before the weekend is out.
Think of the stupidest argument imaginable. Absolutely go to the lowest common denominator. Once you're there, open your mouth and say the dumbest thing that comes to mind. That's wingnut.
| 538 |
wrenchwench Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:58:17am |
re: #530 Alouette
Streimels vs. spodiks
I googled that to see what they look like, and got this:
Wikipedia was more helpful with the photos.
| 539 |
makeitstopghazi Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:58:27am |
Check out Paul Ryan's new fundraising email. Here's the opening graf:
“America is at a tipping point. 14 million Americans are unemployed and 9.3 million are underemployed. Our debt has grown over $4 trillion in less than three years and will be above $16 trillion before the end of 2012. The safety net for the poor is coming apart at the seams and no one in Washington seems to care.”
How long will they be able to maintain the pretense that their 'concern' for the poor has absolutely nothing to do with the laws they're trying to pass?
They're really depending upon blind stupidity at this point. At some point people have to recognize the disconnect between their rhetoric and their actions. Even the really dumb ones might catch on.
| 540 |
RadicalModerate Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:59:22am |
re: #535 OhNoZombies!
Obama goes around Congress, so Boner questions Constitutionality on Laura Ingraham's show.
I challenge Boehner to point to me (or anyone, for that matter) in the Constitution where it addresses the creation of websites or how quickly Research & Development is moved into the markeplace.
| 541 |
lawhawk Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:59:34am |
re: #532 leftynyc
Polling from various states is showing that Romney is the preferred candidate in IA, NH, SC and FL. Those are the first 4 states, and it says something that despite Cain's supposed strength at the polls, he's nowhere to be found in NH or FL. Cain's close in IA and SC.
Romney leads by large margins in Florida and New Hampshire, but Cain is close on his heels in Iowa and South Carolina.
In Iowa, which will hold the first nominating contest of the year on January 3, Romney has a 24–21 lead over Cain despite having spent minimal time there. Texas Congressman Ron Paul is in third place with 12 percent. Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich and Texas Governor Rick Perry tie for fourth with 10 percent.
Late-term campaigning could pay dividends for all the candidates, as Iowa caucus-goers still remain largely undecided — even more than voters in other early states. Just 23 percent say they are locked into supporting a specific candidate; 62 percent say they could change their minds.
In New Hampshire, Romney maintains what looks to be an insurmountable lead, attracting 40 percent of the vote compared to Cain’s 13 percent. Paul is a close third with 12 percent. Former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman makes a fourth-place showing with 6 percent, in one of the few polls where he has broken the two-percent barrier.
New Hampshire voters are more set at this point than Iowa voters, with 32 percent saying they will definitely vote for the candidate they currently support; 48 percent say they could change their mind.
Romney barely leads Cain in South Carolina 25–23. Paul is in third at 12 percent, followed by Perry at 11 percent.
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Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:00:10am |
re: #539 makeitstop
Check out Paul Ryan's new fundraising email. Here's the opening graf:
How long will they be able to maintain the pretense that their 'concern' for the poor has absolutely nothing to do with the laws they're trying to pass?
They're really depending upon blind stupidity at this point. At some point people have to recognize the disconnect between their rhetoric and their actions. Even the really dumb ones might catch on.
I dunno. I'm starting to wonder if we may be underestimating the ability of people to allow themselves to be deluded.
| 543 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:00:31am |
re: #540 RadicalModerate
I challenge Boehner to point to me (or anyone, for that matter) in the Constitution where it addresses the creation of websites or how quickly Research & Development is moved into the markeplace.
It doesn't matter. I'm sure the Constitution says in there somewhere that we have the right to prevent the President from doing anything at all, because screw the President, that's why.
Wait, it doesn't? NEW CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT!!!
| 544 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:02:16am |
re: #483 Obdicut
Fucking hell, this creep just added me on Google+.
[Link: 100777.com...]
What a putz.
Ugh, is he still crapping all over #p2 like he used to?
| 545 |
Lidane Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:02:58am |
re: #531 Lidane
I can't wait for all the Freepers on the "Cain Train" to start bitching about those librul commies at Fox News for posting that. Haha.
Like fucking clockwork, man. You can set your watch to these guys:
SHAME on Fox News for re-publishing this AP BS DRIVEL!
---We need a real alternative to Fox News.
---I’m outraged at Block that he didn’t think outside the box and give out free cigarettes to voters in Milwaukee.
---Read the article. The guy says he has stopped drinking. Just like George W. Bush.
Let’s face it, campaign directors are just a different breed - all knuckles and elbows - and all campaigns have guys like him. If Cain connected with Block, then that’s all I need to know. He probably liked his survival instincts.
---Love this guy already! He has a well lived life.
We need this "take no prisoners" attitude; you can't win the battle with half measures. Anybody who tries to impose restrictions on our side that the enemy is free to disregard (ala "civility" and the like) should be treated as an agent provocateur angling for failure.
---There’s absolutely no doubt that Rick Perry is an pandering, phony, corrupt, imbecile who is polling less than 10% nationally these days. So why don’t you 3rd tier candidate supporters take your obvious lies and smears and stuff them.
---But let’s not pay attention to the “checkered past” of Barack Obama. Furthermore, Herman Cain’s aid isn’t running for president.
---I don’t know the particulars of his situation but if this all happened to him in Wisconsin, which was a ‘Rat majority state until recently, it fits the standard ‘Rat MO of personally destroying political opponents by forcing them out of politics and into things like stocking shelves at Target. I like the idea of a campaign manager who not only can recover from that but also has a personal reason the despise ‘Rats.
---
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:02:58am |
re: #518 Lidane
Better late than never, I suppose:
UK Gives Women Equality in Royal Succession For First Time in 300 Years
Interesting. Why?
I mean, I'm all in favor of some hypothetical little princess getting a fair shake, but also, who cares?
| 547 |
OhNoZombies! Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:03:30am |
re: #540 RadicalModerate
That shouldn't be a problem since all RW-ers know the Constitution by heart.
:)
| 548 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:04:19am |
re: #529 leftynyc
LOL - Wow - you channel wingnut really well. Can you teach me how so I can communicate with them? Cuz I'm sure the topic of this thread is gong to wind up in my inbox before the weekend is out.
Unfortunately, the only way to get really fluent is to talk to a lot of native speakers.
| 549 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:05:05am |
re: #483 Obdicut
Fucking hell, this creep just added me on Google+.
[Link: 100777.com...]
What a putz.
Google: How it all began - a bit long, but worth a read, IMO:
You might have thought that you knew how the Internet started, but here's the TRUE story ....
In ancient Israel, it came to pass that a trader by the name of Abraham Com did take unto himself a young wife by the name of Dot.
And Dot Com was a comely woman, broad of shoulder and long of leg. Indeed, she was often called Amazon Dot Com.
And she said unto Abraham, her husband: "Why dost thou travel so far from town to town with thy goods when thou canst trade without ever leaving thy tent?"
And Abraham did look at her - as though she were several saddle bags short of a camel load, but simply said: "How, dear?"
And Dot replied: "I will place drums in all the towns and drums in between to send messages saying what you have for sale, and they will reply telling you who hath the best price.
And the sale can be made on the drums and delivery made by Uriah's Pony Stable (UPS)."
Abraham thought long and decided he would let Dot have her way with the drums. And the drums rang out and were an immediate success. Abraham sold all the goods he had at the top price, without ever having to move from his tent.
To prevent neighboring countries from overhearing what the drums were saying, Dot devised a system that only she and the drummers
knew.It was called Must Send Drum Over Sound (MSDOS), and she also developed a language to transmitideas and pictures - Hebrew To The People (HTTP)
But this success did arouse envy. A man named Maccabia did secrete himself inside Abraham's drum and began to siphon off some of Abraham's business. But he was soon discovered, arrested and prosecuted - for insider trading.
And the young men did take to Dot Com's trading as doth the greedy horsefly take to camel dung.
They were called Nomadic Ecclesiastical Rich Dominican Sybarites, or NERDS.
And lo, the land was so feverish with joy at the new riches and the deafening sound of drums that no one noticed that the real riches were going to that enterprising drum dealer, Brother William of Gates, who bought off every drum maker in the land.
And indeed did insist on drums to be made that would work only with Brother Gates' drumheads and drumsticks.
And Dot did say: "Oh, Abraham, what we have started is being taken over by others."
And Abraham looked out over the Bay of Ezekiel , or eBay as it came to be known. He said: "We need a name that reflects what we are."
And Dot replied: "Young Ambitious Hebrew Owner Operators."
"YAHOO," said Abraham. And because it was Dot's idea, they named it YAHOO Dot Com.
Abraham's cousin, Joshua, being the young Gregarious Energetic Educated Kid (GEEK) that he was, soon started using Dot's drums to locate things around the countryside.
It soon became known as God's Own Official Guide to Locating Everything (GOOGLE)
And that is how it all began.
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Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:06:17am |
re: #546 SanFranciscoZionist
Interesting. Why?
I mean, I'm all in favor of some hypothetical little princess getting a fair shake, but also, who cares?
I think part of it is Cameron going for some simple, highly public, and fairly popular actions to take public view off some of the many issues the country is going through right now.
| 551 |
blueraven Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:09:09am |
re: #539 makeitstop
Check out Paul Ryan's new fundraising email. Here's the opening graf:
How long will they be able to maintain the pretense that their 'concern' for the poor has absolutely nothing to do with the laws they're trying to pass?
They're really depending upon blind stupidity at this point. At some point people have to recognize the disconnect between their rhetoric and their actions. Even the really dumb ones might catch on.
David Frum thinks the GOP brand is burnt toast.
The identification of the GOP as mouthpiece for the selfish interests of the wealthy is a stubborn image, difficult to overcome at the best of times. For three years, however, Republican leaders have been doing their utmost to confirm the stereotype – and to quash and quell any attempt to counter that stereotype. Did we really spend months and months arguing that one of the things most wrong with the US tax code is that the poor and unemployed pay too little tax? Yes we did. Head shake. Face slap.
[Link: www.frumforum.com...]
| 552 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:10:47am |
| 553 |
Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:11:00am |
re: #551 blueraven
David Frum thinks the GOP brand is burnt toast.
[Link: www.frumforum.com...]
And yet he clings to the charred and shredded remains of what he sees as the real Republican party. I mean, really, he seems to both really want to be an independent and to stay in the GOP club.
| 554 |
RadicalModerate Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:11:44am |
re: #483 Obdicut
Fucking hell, this creep just added me on Google+.
[Link: 100777.com...]
What a putz.
Jeez. He's got just about every conspiracy in existence linked this side of the TimeCube Guy (warning: worst HTML coding. EVER.)
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reine.de.tout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:11:54am |
re: #551 blueraven
David Frum thinks the GOP brand is burnt toast.
[Link: www.frumforum.com...]
David Frum (for me anyhow) is a breath of fresh air, a reminder that it's possible to be conservative without being a complete drooling idiot.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:12:30am |
re: #537 thedopefishlives
Think of the stupidest argument imaginable. Absolutely go to the lowest common denominator. Once you're there, open your mouth and say the dumbest thing that comes to mind. That's wingnut.
They do a lot of what I call "throwing spaghetti up against the wall" arguing. See what sticks --and go with that.
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makeitstopghazi Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:13:23am |
re: #555 reine.de.tout
David Frum (for me anyhow) is a breath of fresh air, a reminder that it's possible to be conservative without being a complete drooling idiot.
Unfortunately, he's one of a dying breed.
And he wouldn't be able to voice those opinions if he held any type of office. They'd cut him off at the knees in no time flat.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:13:25am |
re: #538 wrenchwench
I googled that to see what they look like, and got this:
[Video]Wikipedia was more helpful with the photos.
That is brilliant.
And yes, he's correct, a spodik will not work as a frisbee, although this standard for religious headgear hadn't occurred to me before.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:13:38am |
re: #553 Simply Sarah
And yet he clings to the charred and shredded remains of what he sees as the real Republican party. I mean, really, he seems to both really want to be an independent and to stay in the GOP club.
He wants the "GOP club" to be the best it can be. Which it most definitely is not right now. There are those of us who are in a sort of limbo right now.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:14:41am |
re: #549 reine.de.tout
Google: How it all began - a bit long, but worth a read, IMO:
Google is a tool of G-d?
I'm scared.
/
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Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:16:45am |
re: #555 reine.de.tout
David Frum (for me anyhow) is a breath of fresh air, a reminder that it's possible to be conservative without being a complete drooling idiot.
I'd respect him a lot more if he didn't always seem to be seeing the problem with the current GOP, but at the same refusing to truly see the depth of it. I mean, without getting into what the party may or may not have been for historically, for the last few years the GOP hasn't just been re-enforcing a stereotype about being the party for the rich, it has most certainly actually been a party for the rich.
The fact that he seems to want to avoid saying/admitted that is more than a bit of a turn off. It's a bit like reading some of the op-eds of David Brooks.
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blueraven Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:17:00am |
re: #555 reine.de.tout
David Frum (for me anyhow) is a breath of fresh air, a reminder that it's possible to be conservative without being a complete drooling idiot.
I agree, I dont always agree with him. But he has made a valiant effort to rein in the crazy in his party. He has been vilified and fired from conservative think tanks because he dares to question the GOP positions and tactics. He is a fish out of water.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:17:50am |
re: #559 reine.de.tout
He wants the "GOP club" to be the best it can be. Which it most definitely is not right now. There are those of us who are in a sort of limbo right now.
They're actually in the "Real GOP" bunker huddled around a lantern with fearful (and some angry*) looks while the Zombie GOP pounds on the door trying to get in to consume their brains.
* - Trying to figure out who screwed up and allowed this menace to get beyond control.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:18:49am |
This is making the rounds on wingnut sites this morning....
Document found at Occupy Event: "When should you shoot a cop?" (PDF)
Although the document is hosted on a Clearchanel site it appears to be a genuine government document.
Here's text of the flier.
The second paragraph lists an awful lot of lefty dictators with Hitler thrown in for balance.
I suspect this was probably left by neoNazi JT Ready as seen in the outrageously outrageous video I linked to last night showing him armed at OWS Phoenix. It doesn't read like a lefty wrote that flier.
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RadicalModerate Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:20:29am |
re: #560 ggt
Google is a tool of G-d?
I'm scared.
/
Before Google there was Nothingness. (except Lycos and AltaVista, but those don't count). Google is truth. Worship no false engines named Bing and Yahoo, as they will deceive you.
///
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:23:40am |
re: #564 Killgore Trout
This is making the rounds on wingnut sites this morning...
Document found at Occupy Event: "When should you shoot a cop?" (PDF)
Although the document is hosted on a Clearchanel site it appears to be a genuine government document.
Here's text of the flier.The second paragraph lists an awful lot of lefty dictators with Hitler thrown in for balance.
I suspect this was probably left by neoNazi JT Ready as seen in the outrageously outrageous video I linked to last night showing him armed at OWS Phoenix. It doesn't read like a lefty wrote that flier.
Not an ideologically organized lefty anyway.
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OhNoZombies! Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:23:51am |
Well, off to the kids' Halloween Parade!
Later all... :)
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Varek Raith Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:24:17am |
Hoft's Occupy Phoenix Neo-Nazi Previously Attended Tea Party Rallies
For some time, the right-wing media has been attempting to brand Occupy Wall Street and related protests as anti-Semitic. In the latest example, conservative blogger Jim Hoft is pointing to video of heavily armed Neo-Nazi J.T. Ready patrolling the Occupy Phoenix protest and saying nice things about the movement.
Hoft sarcastically concludes, "Yup. They're just like the tea party."
It's worth pointing out that much of the rhetoric Ready spouts during the video -- decrying fiat money, saying that he and others were "exercising our Second Amendment right so that everybody can have a First Amendment right," claiming that Operation Fast and Furious was intended to "take away our rights" and the perpetrators are traitors who should be put to death -- sounds much more like the rhetoric of a conservative protestor than an OWS supporter.
And indeed, that's the problem for Hoft: Ready previously attended and reportedly spoke at Tea Party rallies.
In July 2009, Phoenix New Times reported that according to multiple sources, Ready spoke at a July 4 Tea Party rally at the Arizona state capitol.
In November 2009, PNT reported that Ready had attended "a recent anti-amnesty tea party" on the capitol lawn.
In April 2010, PNT reported that Ready had organized a "recent tea party protest" at Wells Fargo's Phoenix headquarters. Then-Senate candidate and Tea Party favorite J.D. Hayworth reportedly spoke at the event.J.T. Ready is not the only white supremacist figure to seek access to the Tea Party. American Third Position, a white nationalist political party founded by racist skinheads, have organized, co-sponsored, or freely distributed literature at no fewer than 10 Tea Party rallies in six states. The group has openly claimed that they see the Tea Party as "fertile ground" for recruitment.
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RadicalModerate Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:24:27am |
re: #564 Killgore Trout
This is making the rounds on wingnut sites this morning...
Document found at Occupy Event: "When should you shoot a cop?" (PDF)
Although the document is hosted on a Clearchanel site it appears to be a genuine government document.
Here's text of the flier.The second paragraph lists an awful lot of lefty dictators with Hitler thrown in for balance.
I suspect this was probably left by neoNazi JT Ready as seen in the outrageously outrageous video I linked to last night showing him armed at OWS Phoenix. It doesn't read like a lefty wrote that flier.
Given JT Ready's friendly relationship with Sheriff Joe, I wouldn't be surprised that the un-named "deputy" who supposedly found this had it handed to him by Ready himself.
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:25:19am |
re: #564 Killgore Trout
This is making the rounds on wingnut sites this morning...
Document found at Occupy Event: "When should you shoot a cop?" (PDF)
Although the document is hosted on a Clearchanel site it appears to be a genuine government document.
Here's text of the flier.The second paragraph lists an awful lot of lefty dictators with Hitler thrown in for balance.
I suspect this was probably left by neoNazi JT Ready as seen in the outrageously outrageous video I linked to last night showing him armed at OWS Phoenix. It doesn't read like a lefty wrote that flier.
That last one is written by Larken Rose.
Larken Rose is one of the primary exponents of the 861 position. Long suspicious of the federal income tax, Rose, who with his wife operated a small transcription service in Abington Township, Pa., began to examine various arguments against it in the 1990s. He found most of them illogical, until he stumbled on Section 861.
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Ojoe Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:27:02am |
Thanks for posting this Charles.
My dad, a WW2 vet, were he still around, would be 100% behind this OWS. He'd be appalled at the kleptocracy developing in this country.
There are still living WW2 vets at these occupations too.
Shame on the far right.
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:27:55am |
re: #570 Gus 802
That last one is written by Larken Rose.
Funny enough he's a favorite of that weird site mentioned above 100777.
Sounds like a wingnut tax protester to me.
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wrenchwench Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:28:15am |
re: #564 Killgore Trout
This is making the rounds on wingnut sites this morning...
Document found at Occupy Event: "When should you shoot a cop?" (PDF)
Although the document is hosted on a Clearchanel site it appears to be a genuine government document.
Here's text of the flier.The second paragraph lists an awful lot of lefty dictators with Hitler thrown in for balance.
I suspect this was probably left by neoNazi JT Ready as seen in the outrageously outrageous video I linked to last night showing him armed at OWS Phoenix. It doesn't read like a lefty wrote that flier.
The .pdf was taking forever to load, so I looked at the excerpts at HotAir (the first to come up when I googled 'Document found at Occupy Event: "When should you shoot a cop?" '). The anti-border checkpoint stuff is definitely Ernest Hancock and 4409 stuff.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:29:10am |
This is not language about a “War on Women,” and it’s not as simple as “choice.” It’s a fuller, more complete understanding of how state control of reproduction is tied to oppression—multiple oppressions, requiring multiple and nuanced forms of resistance and tied intimately to every other form of protest and resistance.
From the Pages Post link.
Yet if the individual choice were a man's, the idea of State Control would be unthinkable.
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:29:50am |
More here on Facebook.
Larken Rose is an anarchist author best known for challenging the IRS to answer questions about the federal tax liability of citizens, and being put in prison with no questions answered.
Likes:
Libertarian Party
Abolish the Department of Education
Abolish the Dept. of Homeland Security!
Ron Paul
South Park
| 576 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:30:21am |
re: #563 oaktree
They're actually in the "Real GOP" bunker huddled around a lantern with fearful (and some angry*) looks while the Zombie GOP pounds on the door trying to get in to consume their brains.
* - Trying to figure out who screwed up and allowed this menace to get beyond control.
William F. Buckley died and left no one in charge.
| 577 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:30:24am |
re: #573 wrenchwench
The .pdf was taking forever to load, so I looked at the excerpts at HotAir (the first to come up when I googled 'Document found at Occupy Event: "When should you shoot a cop?" '). The anti-border checkpoint stuff is definitely Ernest Hancock and 4409 stuff.
That was the AR15 protester.
| 579 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:31:01am |
re: #565 RadicalModerate
Before Google there was Nothingness. (except Lycos and AltaVista, but those don't count). Google is truth. Worship no false engines named Bing and Yahoo, as they will deceive you.
///
AltaVista! I remember that.
| 580 |
wrenchwench Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:31:20am |
re: #564 Killgore Trout
The HotAir (Morrissey) conclusion:
I’m curious to see how the media in Arizona and the rest of the nation approach this development. They went into convulsions retroactive to the Gabrielle Giffords shooting that killed six other people because Sarah Palin used crosshairs on a map once (as had Democrats on a number of occasions), which the media used to paint the Tea Party and conservatives as somehow responsible for the massacre conducted by a madman with no discernibly rational political posture. Will they hold the Occupy movement to the same ridiculous standard? I’m betting …. no.
Holding the Occupy movement responsible for the flier...
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:31:24am |
He likes Ron Paul!
And Ron Paul is not, wait a minute? Is Ron Paul a, a, gasp...
Ron Paul is a Republican!
No true Scotsman damn it!
//
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Killgore Trout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:31:33am |
re: #570 Gus 802
Interesting.Larken Rose
Rose is a self-described anarchist, who has written in private correspondence (introduced into evidence as a criminal trial) that "I don't actually like the Constitution" because it gives too much power to politicians," and that "I feel no obligation to obey" the law.
I suppose it could have been left by anarchist OWS elements as well.
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:31:48am |
re: #580 wrenchwench
The HotAir (Morrissey) conclusion:
Holding the Occupy movement responsible for the flier...
Now there's a load of crap.
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wrenchwench Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:32:00am |
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wrenchwench Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:33:14am |
I'm going to let the .pdf load.
See you all this afternoon...
//hopefully
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:33:30am |
re: #582 Killgore Trout
Interesting.Larken Rose
I suppose it could have been left by anarchist OWS elements as well.
My guess is that this was completely fabricated by some stay at home butthurt wingnut blogger trying to smear OWS.
I have no proof though. Neither do they. Someone just claims "hey look at what I found."
In either case we're trying to prove a negative. Sounds like a religion to me in either case.
| 587 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:34:06am |
re: #582 Killgore Trout
Interesting.Larken Rose
I suppose it could have been left by anarchist OWS elements as well.
If you write it on your blog, it's a rant. If you print it out and scatter it around at an event, it's a position statement.
See? The old media has its advantages.
| 588 |
laZardo Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:34:34am |
re: #584 wrenchwench
What passes for "anarchy" apparently consists of the moronic convergence of far-left and far-right. Of course, the divide is a little more clear when one starts to delineate anarcho-syndicalism and anarcho-capitalism...
| 589 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:34:54am |
re: #582 Killgore Trout
Interesting.Larken Rose
I suppose it could have been left by anarchist OWS elements as well.
Too much Power to the Politicians?
hmmmm,
Sometimes I feel it doesn't give enough explicit consequences to politicians who do not act in good faith. But the concept of being voted out of a job every term would take care of that.
Except they aren't.
| 590 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:35:30am |
Ah here we go:
Tax Protest Movement -- Extremism in America
Tax protesters, well aware of the lure of anti-tax arguments, recruit energetically. In 2001, for instance, a group of tax protesters led by Bob Schulz of the New York-based We the People Foundation began "Project Toto," described as a plan to "conduct a massive, large-scale, nationwide educational program to inform millions of Americans" about tax protest theories. This education program included events like a planned April 2001 protest in Washington, D.C., attended by at least 1,040 people. However, the most visible signs of their efforts were a series of full-page color advertisements in USA Today. These ads featured tax protesters Bill Benson, author of The Law That Never Was, a book arguing that the 16th Amendment had not been properly ratified; Larken Rose, author of Taxable Income; and John Kotmair, leader of the nation's largest tax protest organization, the Save-a-Patriot Fellowship. The ad copy summarized several tax protest arguments and provided information about Shulz's Web site. It also solicited contributions, which it noted were "tax deductible." Finally, in April 2001, USA Today notified the We the People Foundation that it would not accept any more of their advertisements, because the ads promoted illegal activities.
| 591 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:35:42am |
re: #573 wrenchwench
The .pdf was taking forever to load, so I looked at the excerpts at HotAir (the first to come up when I googled 'Document found at Occupy Event: "When should you shoot a cop?" '). The anti-border checkpoint stuff is definitely Ernest Hancock and 4409 stuff.
It seems the guy who originally wrote it was an anarchist so there is some crossover appeal between wingnut and moonbat. The flier could have been placer there by anybody. JT Ready was there mostly for media attention but I think like the anarchists and marxists he'll help any cause that he thinks could lead to civil unrest and destabilizing society.
| 592 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:36:02am |
| 593 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:36:59am |
re: #586 Gus 802
My guess is that this was completely fabricated by some stay at home butthurt wingnut blogger trying to smear OWS.
I have no proof though. Neither do they. Someone just claims "hey look at what I found."
In either case we're trying to prove a negative. Sounds like a religion to me in either case.
I'm going to say that, regardless of their reason for distributing it, whoever wrote this believes it. It's too ranty, too full of stupid "Oh, look how smart I am!" moments--it's got that serious college-boy, 'got this all thought out' quality.
Or, it could be a good imitation of that.
As for right-wing infiltrators, we reap what we sow--that's payback for all the lefties who snuck into the Tea Party events and stood around with racists signs, no?
/
| 595 |
Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:38:00am |
re: #592 ggt
But, why would G-d need a search engine?
No, no. She doesn't need one. It's a tool to allow us to tap into some of Her infinite knowledge and wisdom!
| 596 |
Lidane Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:38:08am |
re: #555 reine.de.tout
David Frum (for me anyhow) is a breath of fresh air, a reminder that it's possible to be conservative without being a complete drooling idiot.
Too bad for Frum, then, that the GOP establishment, Fox News, and the party base all disagree, since they pander to complete drooling idiots in order to coddle the rich.
| 598 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:38:27am |
re: #595 Simply Sarah
No, no. She doesn't need one. It's a tool to allow us to tap into some of Her infinite knowledge and wisdom!
It's God's gift to us!!
| 599 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:38:46am |
re: #593 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm going to say that, regardless of their reason for distributing it, whoever wrote this believes it. It's too ranty, too full of stupid "Oh, look how smart I am!" moments--it's got that serious college-boy, 'got this all thought out' quality.
Or, it could be a good imitation of that.
As for right-wing infiltrators, we reap what we sow--that's payback for all the lefties who snuck into the Tea Party events and stood around with racists signs, no?
/
So I'm supposed to take something being spread around by right wing blogs seriously now? I mean, KT even prefaced it as such.
| 600 |
Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:40:34am |
| 601 |
makeitstopghazi Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:41:21am |
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RadicalModerate Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:41:56am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:42:44am |
For some reason I am remembering a piece someone wrote on the Internet, a German SCA player I think, complaining about people's willingness to incorporate different periods into historical reenactment.
As an example of how dumb it was to do this, he wrote up a description of a futuristic reeenactor's group doing a 'battle scene' from the twentieth century. The set piece was cops clashing with anti-nuclear protestors. (The cops had mock riot gear, the protesters threw rocks made of styrofoam and duct tape.)
Everyone was in a range of anachronistic costume from all over the twentieth, twenty-first, and nineteenth centuries, with each person claiming an elaborate explanation for how a guy in a Nazi uniform might conceivably be working with the cops in 1990s Berlin and such.
The part I loved was when the battle broke out. The protesters chant "No nukes, no nukes," to which the police respond "More nukes, more nukes."
It will probably be exactly like that, too.
| 604 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:42:53am |
New rules! From now on we take right wing blogs seriously and will apply the same amount of criticism equally between the Tea Party and OWS. Extrapolating from that we will also do the same between Democrats and Republicans. So, from now on we take Republicans seriously the way we always do.
//Feel free to link to CNS, Hot Air, Pajamas Media, Free Republic, and so on.
//
| 605 |
RadicalModerate Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:43:11am |
re: #601 makeitstop
Hahaha.
FBI identifies Juggalos as 'potential gang threat'
Juggalos behind OWS!!!1ty!
//
The FBI fears magnets.
//
| 606 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:43:37am |
re: #601 makeitstop
Hahaha.
FBI identifies Juggalos as 'potential gang threat'
Juggalos behind OWS!!!1ty!
//
I think juggalos are a threat to humanity in general, but that's mostly because I can't figure out what the hell they're up to, and assume it must be sinister.
| 607 |
Lidane Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:43:39am |
More GOP minority outreach:
The E-Mails The Feds Say Show Texas Lawmakers Trying To Limit Voting Power Of Hispanics
| 608 |
makeitstopghazi Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:44:46am |
re: #606 SanFranciscoZionist
I think juggalos are a threat to humanity in general, but that's mostly because I can't figure out what the hell they're up to, and assume it must be sinister.
It's that damned Faygo, I tells ya.
/
| 609 |
Lidane Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:45:34am |
re: #601 makeitstop
Hahaha.
FBI identifies Juggalos as 'potential gang threat'
Juggalos behind OWS!!!1ty!
//
To be fair, there have been several murders and violent incidents over several years that have caught the FBI's attention:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 610 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:47:12am |
re: #604 Gus 802
New rules! From now on we take right wing blogs seriously and will apply the same amount of criticism equally between the Tea Party and OWS. Extrapolating from that we will also do the same between Democrats and Republicans. So, from now on we take Republicans seriously the way we always do.
//Feel free to link to CNS, Hot Air, Pajamas Media, Free Republic, and so on.
//
This will go with the other new rules where we take claims of sneaky plants from the other side seriously, and dismiss bad behavior as not characteristic of the overall movement.
| 611 |
Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:47:28am |
What a crock of shit coming from Ed Morrissey. This guy Larken Rose is a wingnut. He even writes for Freedom's Phoenix:
[Link: www.freedomsphoenix.com...]
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:47:56am |
re: #610 SanFranciscoZionist
This will go with the other new rules where we take claims of sneaky plants from the other side seriously, and dismiss bad behavior as not characteristic of the overall movement.
Right. Just like we do with the Democrats and Obama.
Understood.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:48:04am |
re: #609 Lidane
To be fair, there have been several murders and violent incidents over several years that have caught the FBI's attention:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
My favorite piece of juggalo knowledge is that at least one of their websites refers to their offspring as 'juggalittles'.
| 615 |
wrenchwench Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:48:54am |
re: #570 Gus 802
That last one is written by Larken Rose.
Larken Rose's article was posted at Ernest Hancock's website on October 7, 2011.
| 616 |
Shropshire_Slasher Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:50:26am |
Juggalos, juggalittles, are juggies somehow related? I don't see where this all fits in.
| 617 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:52:09am |
re: #611 Gus 802
What a crock of shit coming from Ed Morrissey. This guy Larken Rose is a wingnut. He even writes for Freedom's Phoenix:
[Link: www.freedomsphoenix.com...]
I'm pretty sure the guy is technically an anarchist. It would be hard to tell the difference between an anarchist and a Libertarian extremist (ala Sovereign Citizen) in a blind taste test. They dwell on the fringe moronic convergence between left and right.
| 618 |
lawhawk Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:52:36am |
re: #616 Shropshire_Slasher
They're moving towards the juggaularity.
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Gus Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:52:46am |
re: #615 wrenchwench
Larken Rose's article was posted at Ernest Hancock's website on October 7, 2011.
And look here:
The Freaks Behind the Arizona Gun Stunt
The people who showed up at the Obama rally in Arizona yesterday with semi-automatic rifles are part of a hate group called “4409,” a bugeyed insane gang of paleo-libertarian Ron Paul supporters who believe in every conspiracy theory under the sun. They’re 9/11 Truthers, moon landing hoaxers, anti-vaccination kooks, Alex Jones fans — name a conspiracy theory, they believe it.
Their website contains advertisements for white supremacist militias and Rand Paul (son of Ron Paul). I won’t link directly to these kinds of extremist hate sites, but here’s Google’s cache of the page where they posted video of their jackass stunt: 4409 — Brother carries AR-15 Rifle at Obamabot Rally.
Notice in the video clip of their headquarters (probably somebody’s garage), the big sign on the wall that says “Vaccines = Poison.”
Tagged: Arizona Guns Second Amendment Barack Obama Extremism Far Right Ron Paul White Supremacism Militias
| 620 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:53:26am |
So, I just put some peanut butter on Bother Puppy's nose. Am I evil?
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Lidane Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:54:00am |
re: #611 Gus 802
What a crock of shit coming from Ed Morrissey. This guy Larken Rose is a wingnut. He even writes for Freedom's Phoenix:
[Link: www.freedomsphoenix.com...]
More Larken Rose idiocy:
Terrorism: A Symptom of Government
It goes on. If this guy is supposed to be a leftist, then I must have missed the memo somewhere. WTF.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:54:10am |
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Shropshire_Slasher Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:54:50am |
re: #620 ggt
While your at it duck tape his paws!
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:54:58am |
re: #620 ggt
So, I just put some peanut butter on Bother Puppy's nose. Am I evil?
Why did you do that?
| 625 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:55:56am |
Which is better:
Juggalo or Jackalope?
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Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:56:01am |
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Talking Point Detective Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:56:03am |
re: #611 Gus 802
Leftist constantly advocate violence. "Taxation," as one example, is the forced confiscation of wealth backed by the threat of violence.
Wow!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:56:36am |
re: #624 Alouette
Why did you do that?
Because he likes Peanut Butter and is vewy, vewy cute to watch him lick it off his nose.
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Lidane Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:56:59am |
re: #617 Killgore Trout
I'm pretty sure the guy is technically an anarchist. It would be hard to tell the difference between an anarchist and a Libertarian extremist (ala Sovereign Citizen) in a blind taste test. They dwell on the fringe moronic convergence between left and right.
He's not a Libertarian. He can't stand the party:
He's also got similar rants against the Constitution Party, and even, to a lesser degree, against the Tea Party. The guy's just a full on nutbag.
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makeitstopghazi Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:57:16am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:58:44am |
re: #623 Shropshire_Slasher
While your at it duck tape his paws!
OOH, we did that once, kinda.
Put duct tape upside down on the kitchen counter. German Shepherd would NOT be trained to stay off the counter.
2 Am wake-up. German Shepherd on the kitchen floor yelping with duct-taped paws.
It worked as a training aid.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:59:51am |
re: #616 Shropshire_Slasher
Juggalos, juggalittles, are juggies somehow related? I don't see where this all fits in.
Girl juggalos are juggalettes. The Juggies were the pretty girls who helped out onstage on "The Man Show".
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:00:13am |
I put the peanut butter on the "front" of his nose just above his "lip"
not too evil.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:00:31am |
re: #620 ggt
So, I just put some peanut butter on Bother Puppy's nose. Am I evil?
Why? He gets peanut butter.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:01:47am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:01:55am |
re: #634 SanFranciscoZionist
Why? He gets peanut butter.
When he was really little the other dogs would "help" him clean his nose. He he big enough that he doesn't have to share with them anymore! I have to give each one some, to be fair.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:02:18am |
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brennant Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:03:00am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:03:58am |
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Shropshire_Slasher Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:04:03am |
re: #632 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh,ok I guess that explains the Snooky being a guidette thing. Is it now fashionable for women to wear your flannel pj's out in public? Either its laundry day or they can't afford pants, I don't get it.
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Lidane Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:04:14am |
One final bit of Larken Rose idiocy:
Well, the day before I'll be hitting the road to head to Libertopia, a half dozen federal fascists showed up at my house to wish me a happy journey.
Well, not quite.
Driving down the road toward our house, Tessa and I observed half a dozen jackbooted swine--in their usual blue flack jackets with "POLICE" written on them--milling about on the road. I didn't know if it was about me or not, but I decided to casually drive past, to at least go get a camera before coming back. (Yes, I committed the sin of driving in the USSA without a camera handy. Shame on me.) However, the jackboots obviously recognized me, and since our house is right on the corner, we had to stop at the traffic light. A fascist came up to each front window and knocked. I rolled down my window just a bit, and a gray-haired, veteran fascist informed me that I was not being arrested. That's nice. Instead, there were "tax matters" that some other federal pig wanted to discuss. Only when he was right there could I read the Treasury logo on his state mercenary uniform.
What a charming fellow.
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Talking Point Detective Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:04:21am |
re: #514 SanFranciscoZionist
Made some sense to folks around here when we were talking about OWS.
Really?
Because what I thought I read was people saying that it doesn't make sense to characterize OWS as anti-Semitic because some anti-Semites showed up.
Rather a different algebra.
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brennant Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:04:43am |
re: #639 ggt
Ok, now that would be mean.
Did it once. Poor dog required a bucket of water to drink afterwards...
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:04:44am |
re: #640 Shropshire_Slasher
Oh,ok I guess that explains the Snooky being a guidette thing. Is it now fashionable for women to wear your flannel pj's out in public? Either its laundry day or they can't afford pants, I don't get it.
college student wear --everyone does it now.
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Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:06:10am |
re: #644 ggt
college student wear --everyone does it now.
Despite only being a few years out of university and having seen it there, I still have to admit to not really getting it.
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lawhawk Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:07:32am |
re: #640 Shropshire_Slasher
And Beavis and Butthead gave the J-shore gang a proper smackdown last night. It's good to have 'em back (and they did seem a bit more self-aware and smarter than I remember).
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Kragar Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:08:27am |
Its Friday, so you know what that means!
Herman Cain has a new position on Abortion
According to the campaign, Cain now believes that abortions should be allowed in cases of “rape, incest, and when the life of the mother is at stake”:
[A] campaign adviser said Cain follows the same policy used by the George W. Bush administration, which said abortions should be allowed in the instances of rape, incest and when the life of the mother is at stake.
“He has learned more about the issue,” including the number of women affected in those instances, the adviser told CNN, explaining Cain’s view.
This will be position 5 over the last month.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:08:49am |
re: #640 Shropshire_Slasher
Oh,ok I guess that explains the Snooky being a guidette thing. Is it now fashionable for women to wear your flannel pj's out in public? Either its laundry day or they can't afford pants, I don't get it.
Oh the pajama pant thing is a few years old now. They are comfortable, but what looks cute on a fourteen-year-old girl simply makes me look like a Person of Wal-Mart.
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Shropshire_Slasher Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:08:55am |
re: #644 ggt
I suppose I could wear my Homer Simpson flannel PJ's to work, as long as I wore steel toed boots.
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Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:09:39am |
re: #647 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Its Friday, so you know what that means!
Herman Cain has a new position on Abortion
This will be position 5 over the last month.
Are you sure it's not 5 in the last week?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:09:48am |
re: #645 Simply Sarah
Despite only being a few years out of university and having seen it there, I still have to admit to not really getting it.
There are days!
I think it's a lot like "scrubs". Everyone wears them now.
It's really no different than sweat-pants --you get up in the morning--baby needs diapers or milk or whatever, you don't have time for a shower --so you put on whatever is clean and will cover your body and you run out and get whatever --while you are out, you might as well get gas . . . .
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:10:02am |
re: #642 Talking Point Detective
Really?
Because what I thought I read was people saying that it doesn't make sense to characterize OWS as anti-Semitic because some anti-Semites showed up.
Rather a different algebra.
People said that.
They also, repeatedly, mentioned the Kol Nidre service as a reason that the OWS could not be anti-Semitic.
So a rather similar algebra.
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Lidane Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:10:22am |
re: #646 lawhawk
And Beavis and Butthead gave the J-shore gang a proper smackdown last night. It's good to have 'em back (and they did seem a bit more self-aware and smarter than I remember).
The bit where they were ragging on the True Life guy who was addicted to porn was hilarious. Also, seeing the doofus kid in the Winger t-shirt made me laugh. Never, ever change Beavis & Butt-Head. Haha.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:10:38am |
re: #652 SanFranciscoZionist
People said that.
They also, repeatedly, mentioned the Kol Nidre service as a reason that the OWS could not be anti-Semitic.
So a rather similar algebra.
I totally sucked at algebra.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:12:01am |
Man opens fire outside US Embassy in Bosnia
The man injured at least one police officer guarding the embassy before police surrounded him. After a 30-minute standoff, the sound of a single shot echoed and the shooter slumped to the ground.
Police arrested the wounded man and took him away in an ambulance as pedestrians watched from behind buildings and vehicles. Sarajevo police spokesman Irfan Nefic said the man was being treated at a hospital.
The U.S. Embassy said none of its employees was injured.
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Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:12:05am |
re: #651 ggt
There are days!
I think it's a lot like "scrubs". Everyone wears them now.
It's really no different than sweat-pants --you get up in the morning--baby needs diapers or milk or whatever, you don't have time for a shower --so you put on whatever is clean and will cover your body and you run out and get whatever --while you are out, you might as well get gas . . .
I suppose. A lot of it is probably simply that it's not something that I really had a chance to get used to or that I had seen when I was younger. Don't really have an issue with it, since I'm pretty "whatever" on what people decide to wear.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:12:09am |
re: #649 Shropshire_Slasher
I suppose I could wear my Homer Simpson flannel PJ's to work, as long as I wore steel toed boots.
Just be happy people are clean and dressed.
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jaunte Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:12:21am |
re: #641 Lidane
Larken Rose doesn't appear to be curious about where the road he was driving on came from.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:13:12am |
re: #658 jaunte
Larken Rose doesn't appear to be curious about where the road he was driving on came from.
I think he'd be happier on a horse.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:13:16am |
re: #658 jaunte
Larken Rose doesn't appear to be curious about where the road he was driving on came from.
Hard-working Americans didn't build it without government interference?
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Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:13:44am |
re: #656 Simply Sarah
I suppose. A lot of it is probably simply that it's not something that I really had a chance to get used to or that I had seen when I was younger. Don't really have an issue with it, since I'm pretty "whatever" on what people decide to wear.
(Says the 27 year old as if she's 144 or something)
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jaunte Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:14:02am |
re: #660 SanFranciscoZionist
I suspect mercenaries were involved.
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Simply Sarah Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:15:40am |
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makeitstopghazi Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:17:47am |
re: #647 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Its Friday, so you know what that means!
Herman Cain has a new position on Abortion
This will be position 5 over the last month.
He's joking.
/maybe
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:20:02am |
Well, I have to work stripping Bother Puppy's coat so he stays well coiffed.
Have a great afternoon all!
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 11:09:21am |
re: #647 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Its Friday, so you know what that means!
Herman Cain has a new position on Abortion
This will be position 5 over the last month.
I think the flip-flops are his brain trying to send out a morse code message reading "S.O.S."
/
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Fri, Oct 28, 2011 11:10:24am |
re: #658 jaunte
Larken Rose doesn't appear to be curious about where the road he was driving on came from.
And he is willing to obey traffic lights it appears at well.
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