1 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:40:44pm

Makes about as much sense as the real Herman Cain.

2 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:44:41pm

Is Cain unconcerned about the badgers?

3 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:45:44pm

All you can do is give that woodchuck a tuna melt.

I actually agree with that.

4 Tumulus11  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:46:19pm
'All you can do is give that woodchuck a tuna melt.'

. Mr. Cain explaining his tax plan.

5 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:47:36pm

re: #3 SanFranciscoZionist

All you can do is give that woodchuck a tuna melt.

I actually agree with that.

One of my kids wanted a tuna melt the other day. I couldn't figure that one out.

6 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:51:47pm

Got any smokes?

7 EdDantes  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:54:34pm

I'm Herman Cain and I approved this message.

8 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:55:25pm

It's like drinking tiger blood.

9 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 3:56:31pm

Big Potato Moths!

10 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:02:36pm

Lord help me, I thought this was hilarious.

"Half of me swole in two days . . .".

11 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:05:17pm

Awesome music deal at Amazon: The 99 Most Essential Mozart Masterpieces (Full Works Edition).

Only 99 cents!

12 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:08:05pm

My favorite is from the Perry vid.
SAAAAAAVE A PRETZEL FOR THE GAAAASSSS JETS!

13 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:09:25pm

re: #11 Charles

Awesome music deal at Amazon: The 99 Most Essential Mozart Masterpieces (Full Works Edition).

Only 99 cents!

9-9-9...

14 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:11:23pm

Firm Herm, my wife used to call my privates...I just can't take him too serious...he might consider changing his first name to Citizen

15 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:12:20pm

I'm owned by the Koch brothers! No minimum wage! Fuck you, America, I got mine, live in shit!

This message brought to you by a guy who in no way is going to become president

16 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:13:45pm

Charles. You need some sort of warning for that video! I almost wet myself laughing!

17 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:14:09pm

re: #11 Charles

Great deal, downloading it now. Thanks!

18 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:14:14pm

re: #14 albusteve

Dude, for what it's worth, you were missed. Hope the little pirate visit was awesome!

19 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:15:09pm

'Cowboys and anthrax.' Mmm-hmm...

20 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:15:52pm

re: #16 rwdflynavy

Charles. You need some sort of warning for that video! I almost wet myself laughing!

You've seen the Perry, Romney and Bachmann ones, right?

21 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:16:50pm

re: #16 rwdflynavy

Charles. You need some sort of warning for that video! I almost wet myself laughing!

Rick Perry.

22 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:18:40pm

re: #20 makeitstop

You've seen the Perry, Romney and Bachmann ones, right?

Watchin now. C a n ' t b r e a t h e !

23 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:19:05pm

Michele Bachmann:

Mittens:

24 avanti  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:19:54pm

muffingate update

muffin.

25 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:20:35pm

Did the princess seize my buddies boat?
Aye captain.

26 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:20:58pm

re: #22 rwdflynavy

Watchin now. C a n ' t b r e a t h e !

Check out some of his music videos, too. They're real good.

27 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:24:04pm

re: #24 avanti

muffingate update

muffin.

They are not serious. $16 for muffins, fruit, juice, and coffee? For $10 down at IHOP you can get bacon, eggs, waffles, and the works.

I did notice the $8.32 coffee. They couldn't just send out to Starbucks?

28 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:26:03pm

re: #27 EmmmieG

They are not serious. $16 for muffins, fruit, juice, and coffee? For $10 down at IHOP you can get bacon, eggs, waffles, and the works.

I did notice the $8.32 coffee. They couldn't just send out to Starbucks?

And $76 per person lunch. Guess they ran out of the value menu stuff.
///

29 jaunte  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:27:00pm

re: #27 EmmmieG

Everybody needs toucan stubs.

30 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:27:57pm

I paid $20 or a pot of coffee to be delivered to my room while on vacation in the Keys. Holiday Inn, Duval Street. 1993.

31 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:29:16pm

re: #4 Tumulus11

. Mr. Cain explaining his tax plan.

Am I supposed to be paying for the woodchuck's tuna melt? Because if so, I'm agin' it.

32 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:30:56pm

re: #31 SanFranciscoZionist

Am I supposed to be paying for the woodchuck's tuna melt? Because if so, I'm agin' it.

That's only for woodchucks making over $250,000 a year.
//

33 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:31:54pm

re: #28 Cannadian Club Akbar

And $76 per person lunch. Guess they ran out of the value menu stuff.
///

I could feed my entire extended family for $76 for a lunch. Well, not the entire extended family, more like my parents and my family and my sister's family and maybe my brother.

Still.

34 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:32:41pm

re: #23 makeitstop

Michele Bachmann:

[Video]

Is the sugar fountain fairy related to the MBF?

35 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:32:45pm

re: #33 EmmmieG

I could feed my entire extended family for $76 for a lunch. Well, not the entire extended family, more like my parents and my family and my sister's family and maybe my brother.

Still.

I'm making leg quarters on the grill right now. .58/lb.

36 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:33:40pm

re: #27 EmmmieG

They are not serious. $16 for muffins, fruit, juice, and coffee? For $10 down at IHOP you can get bacon, eggs, waffles, and the works.

I did notice the $8.32 coffee. They couldn't just send out to Starbucks?

(bolded part is mine)

Hilton had defended its pricing policies after the original report came out, saying attendees at the legal training conference in Washington had feasted on a continental breakfast spread. It included fruit, coffee, juice and the muffins, Hilton said.

One does not feast on a continental breakfast, I don't care where it's held or how much it costs. Good grief.

37 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:33:40pm

re: #24 avanti

muffingate update

muffin.

WHO COULD HAVE GUESSED that Bill O'Reilly was getting his tiny balls in an uproar over a bogus story? (as if Bill didn't know that expensive hotels charge out the ass for breakfast)

38 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:33:42pm

brb

39 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:33:47pm

Somebody looked at the estimate and thought it was okay. $76 for lunch. Somebody else looked at it and thought, I can approve this.

40 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:35:37pm

re: #37 bratwurst

WHO COULD HAVE GUESSED that Bill O'Reilly was getting his tiny balls in an uproar over a bogus story? (as if Bill didn't know that expensive hotels charge out the ass for breakfast)

He'd better not look into the defense contracting process. He'll get the vapors for sure.
//

Bottom line. When it comes to spending tax payer money, Justice are a bunch of rank amateurs.

41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:36:15pm

re: #27 EmmmieG

Ever set up something like that at a Marriott?

First time I did? My laughter perturbed the salesperson.

I remember saying, "Oh. I'm sorry. You are serious?"

They were.

$18.00 a head for continental breakfast with coffee and juice in 1992.

42 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:37:03pm

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever set up something like that at a Marriott?

First time I did? My laughter perturbed the salesperson.

I remember saying, "Oh. I'm sorry. You are serious?"

They were.

$18.00 a head for continental breakfast with coffee and juice in 1992.

You couldn't find a restaurant with a private room?

43 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:37:28pm

re: #33 EmmmieG

I could feed my entire extended family for $76 for a lunch. Well, not the entire extended family, more like my parents and my family and my sister's family and maybe my brother.

Still.

Add in servers, tables, a room and re-fills.

44 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:37:51pm

When I worked for state gubmint, which was not that long ago, our budget for "refreshments" for meetings was $3 per person. We could get a plate of pastries and cut them in half (really, half a 1000 calorie pastry is plenty enough for a person), and we'd go to the store and buy a couple of boxes of cookies, and make a couple of pots of coffee. We could come in UNDER budget. It can be done.

45 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:37:58pm

The government doesn't have conference rooms? I'm pretty sure catering is less expensive than this. For that matter, they could pick up their own Mickey D's and expense it.

46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:38:12pm

re: #42 EmmmieG

You couldn't find a restaurant with a private room?

Not for 250 people and an auditorium.

The auditorium was free, though.

I'm a killer negotiator.

47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:38:52pm

re: #44 reine.de.tout

But, you gave a shit.

48 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:39:07pm

re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist

Is the sugar fountain fairy related to the MBF?

She knows how to super-size!

I really hope the police find her Stooges tape. And I hope they don't come shoot at her. :)

49 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:39:13pm

You guys, I've planned groups dining in public (hotel) dining rooms. 16.00-ish is the lowest I've ever heard. Never quoted that less.

50 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:39:28pm

re: #45 EmmmieG

The government doesn't have conference rooms? I'm pretty sure catering is less expensive than this. For that matter, they could pick up their own Mickey D's and expense it.

BINGO. It can be done. The government does own buildings, with conference rooms in them. The meeting hosts can do a bit of work (see re: #44 reine.de.tout) themselves, and it can be done for a LOT less money.

51 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:39:29pm

re: #46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not for 250 people and an auditorium.

The auditorium was free, though.

I'm a killer negotiator.

So the price included room rental? Now, see, that I can understand. If the $18 was above and beyond room rental, that makes no sense.

52 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:40:10pm

re: #47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But, you gave a shit.

Well, actually, yes I did.
It wasn't my money being spent.

53 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:41:39pm

re: #45 EmmmieG

The government doesn't have conference rooms? I'm pretty sure catering is less expensive than this. For that matter, they could pick up their own Mickey D's and expense it.

Ha ha, behind a lady at Mickey D's the other day, she ordered 16.00 worth of food for herself.

OOOH

54 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:41:49pm

Ice: Free
1.75 CC: $25
2 Liter of Pepsi: $2
Pizza delivered w/ tip: $25
The enjoyment of nobody bothering me while I have cocktails and pizza: Priceless
///not really

55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:41:57pm

re: #51 EmmmieG

So the price included room rental? Now, see, that I can understand. If the $18 was above and beyond room rental, that makes no sense.

That's how I remember it. The also charged me a hundred a fifty bucks to rent a 300.00 overhead projector.

Before you ask? No. I could not bring my own.

56 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:42:48pm

re: #53 Stanley Sea

Ha ha, behind a lady at Mickey D's the other day, she ordered 16.00 worth of food for herself.

OOOH

My brother can spend $12 for himself at Taco Bell. Flat out gross.

57 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:44:14pm

re: #55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's how I remember it. The also charged me a hundred a fifty bucks to rent a 300.00 overhead projector.

Before you ask? No. I could not bring my own.

My homeschool group is currently in negotiations with a ballroom dance teacher for a class.

He wants us to spend $85 a class (above and beyond his fee) to rent a sound system. For a one semester class, this is $1,300. I have suggested we buy our own sound system, and never have to rent one again.

58 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:45:49pm

I stayed at a hotel in Brentwood (Holiday Inn on the 405, IIRC). 10 oz Strip steak, tater, salad: $15. One of the best steaks I've ever eaten.

59 engineer cat  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:50:00pm

i miss the days back in las ochentas when you could get a full plate of arroz con pollo in a comidas criollas on broadway around 100th st for $4.50

60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:51:05pm

re: #59 engineer dog

i miss the days back in las ochentas when you could get a full plate of arroz con pollo in a comidas criollas on broadway around 100th st for $4.50

WE ATE DIRT AND WE LIKED IT!

61 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:53:18pm

re: #60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

WE ATE DIRT AND WE LIKED IT!

Whatever you say, grandpa.

/

62 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:53:24pm

Well what do you know...

Justin Bieber Lashes Out At Senate's New Copyright Bill

It seems tweeny-bop sensation Justin Bieber wants to be taken seriously as a policy wonk. During an radio interview on Friday morning, Bieber came out against the Commercial Felony Streaming Act, or S.978, a bill that three senators proposed in May that would make unauthorized online streaming of copyrighted material a felony, punishable by up to five years behind bars.

This law could also affect anybody who covers or remixes a popular song and uploads their work to YouTube. On DC's Hot 99.5 FM, Bieber singled out Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, a co-sponsor of the measure and a member of the state's Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party. "Whoever she is," said Bieber, "she needs to know that I'm saying she needs to be locked up—put away in cuffs."

Continues.

The bill:

Bill S.978 or the Commercial Felony Streaming Act is a bill that is pending introduction to the United States Senate floor. It was proposed by Amy Klobuchar, Chris Coons, and John Cornyn on May 12, 2011.[1] It is an amendment to USC 2319, Title 18, that would make unauthorized streaming of copyrighted material for the purpose of "commercial advantage or personal financial gain", a felony (under current law, unauthorized streaming is only a misdemeanor). The penalty could include up to five years of prison-time. It defines illegal streaming as streaming ten or more times in a 180 day period. Furthermore, the value of the illegally streamed material would have to be greater than $2,500, or the licensing fees would have to be over $5,000...

Yes. That would be the very same Chris Coons that ran against Christine "I am not a witch" O'Donnell. Pathetic. In any even, good for young Mr. Bieber.

63 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:54:57pm

re: #62 Gus 802

Well what do you know...

Justin Bieber Lashes Out At Senate's New Copyright Bill

The bill:

Yes. That would be the very same Chris Coons that ran against Christine "I am not a witch" O'Donnell. Pathetic. In any even, good for young Mr. Bieber.

Damnit, Gus, why do you have to make me agree with something Justin Beiber said?!

/

64 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:56:37pm

re: #61 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Whatever you say, grandpa.

/

And GET OFF HIS LAWN!!!
//

65 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:57:51pm

re: #63 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Damnit, Gus, why do you have to make me agree with something Justin Beiber said?!

/

Yeah. I'm sure we know who's lining the pockets of these three. Much like that other bill that was mentioned the other night. No need to wonder why congressional approval ratings are at an all time low. Useless politicians are useless.

66 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:58:00pm

re: #59 engineer dog

i miss the days back in las ochentas when you could get a full plate of arroz con pollo in a comidas criollas on broadway around 100th st for $4.50

Aqui en Nuevo Mexico, las ochentas son ahora. Mas o menos.

67 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 4:58:02pm

re: #63 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Damnit, Gus, why do you have to make me agree with something Justin Beiber said?!

/

Why do you hate her? *

(* Stolen, I believe, from Kragar)

68 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:01:15pm

re: #65 Gus 802

Yeah. I'm sure we know who's lining the pockets of these three. Much like that other bill that was mentioned the other night. No need to wonder why congressional approval ratings are at an all time low. Useless politicians are useless.

The MPAA and the RIAA apparently have decided that spending billions annually suing young girls and grandmas for downloading a couple songs "illegally" just isn't winning them friends anymore and have decided to shovel millions instead into the pockets of politicians who will gladly make anything illegal if it means more "campaign contributions."

69 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:01:27pm

re: #62 Gus 802

Well what do you know...

Justin Bieber Lashes Out At Senate's New Copyright Bill

The bill:

Yes. That would be the very same Chris Coons that ran against Christine "I am not a witch" O'Donnell. Pathetic. In any even, good for young Mr. Bieber.

This is for Justin.

[Link: cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com...]

70 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:03:12pm

re: #69 wrenchwench

This is for Justin.

[Link: cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com...]

Not loading but I think I saw enough. ;)

71 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:04:26pm

Testing uno, dos, tres.

72 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:04:37pm

re: #70 Gus 802

Not loading but I think I saw enough. ;)

Here's the whole page.

73 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:05:02pm

re: #71 Gus 802

Testing uno, dos, tres.

Odeen, dva, tree...

74 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:05:23pm

re: #72 wrenchwench

Here's the whole page.

Strange. The microwave is interfering again. This page is still working but any new page is timing out.

75 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:10:47pm

I killed the thread.

76 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:11:15pm

Brrraaaiiinnnsss...

77 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:11:25pm

re: #74 Gus 802

I don't have a microwave oven, but I do have a clock that occasionally cooks shit. - Mitch Hedberg

(Been reading his wikiquote page tonight. Can ya tell?)

78 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:12:33pm

re: #74 Gus 802

Strange. The microwave is interfering again. This page is still working but any new page is timing out.

We have an in-ceiling fluorescent fixture in the kitchen (at home) that interferes with FM radio reception. I wish I could figure out what to do about that. Besides turning it off.

79 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:13:31pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

New ballast maybe.

80 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:13:59pm

re: #79 Rightwingconspirator

New ballast maybe.

Or a new radio.

//

81 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:14:36pm

re: #79 Rightwingconspirator

New ballast maybe.

Ballast was replaced when we moved in last April.

82 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:15:06pm

re: #80 Gus 802

Or a new radio.

//

You know, the radio is pretty old...

83 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:15:12pm

Cain never sounded more logical.

84 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:15:35pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

You know, the radio is pretty old...

Aha!

85 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:18:06pm

re: #83 freetoken

Cain never sounded more logical.

Responsible, practical?

86 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:18:46pm

re: #85 Gus 802

Responsible, practical?

Intelligent, lovable?

87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:19:04pm

re: #85 Gus 802

Watch what you say! They'll be calling you a radical.

88 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:20:10pm

re: #87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Watch what you say. They'll be calling you a radical.

Liberal, irresponsible, criminal.

89 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:20:52pm

Mmm. Just cracked open an end-of-the-week Paulaner Oktoberfest Wiesn, and I'm putting some finishing touches on the first release of LGF Pages Dashboard.

90 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:21:06pm

re: #86 freetoken

Intelligent, lovable?

Logical song by Supertramp.

I'd embed a Youtube video here but I don't want to commit a felony. //

91 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:24:03pm

Man, now that's some Bavarian bier. That'll put lederhosen on your legs.

92 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:24:44pm

re: #87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

93 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:25:45pm

re: #90 Gus 802

Yeah, Youtube has some good clips, but I went looking for an mp3 and my computer started running slowly. Safari just eats up the RAM.

94 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:31:22pm

re: #93 freetoken

Yeah, Youtube has some good clips, but I went looking for an mp3 and my computer started running slowly. Safari just eats up the RAM.

I must say. This Firefox Aurora has been running really smoothly. Even as a beta release.

95 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:31:53pm

Interesting science story of the day:


Scientists chart gene expression in the brain across lifespan

The "switching on" or expression of specific genes in the human genome is what makes each human tissue and each human being unique. A new study by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, the Lieber Institute for Brain Development, and the National Institute of Mental Health found that many gene expression changes that occur during fetal development are reversed immediately after birth. Reversals of fetal expression changes are also seen again much later in life during normal aging of the brain. Additionally, the team observed the reversal of fetal expression changes in Alzheimer's disease findings reported in other studies. The research team also found that gene expression change is fastest in human brain tissue during fetal development, slows down through childhood and adolescence, stabilizes in adulthood, and then speeds up again after age 50, with distinct redirection of expression changes prior to birth and in early adulthood. Their findings are published in the Oct. 27, 2011, edition of Nature. All of the data are available to the public as a web-based resource at: [Link: www.libd.org...]

[...]

Stopping or changing the changes in the older brain is vital if life-spans are to be prolonged with any meaningful experience.

96 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:33:03pm

re: #89 Charles

Mmm. Just cracked open an end-of-the-week Paulaner Oktoberfest Wiesn, and I'm putting some finishing touches on the first release of LGF Pages Dashboard.

Nice. And thanks for a good forum to post my Occupy LA stuff. Had a ball today with the poll.

97 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:36:09pm

Summary on the satellite that went up this morning.

Key science objectives and capabilities of NPP include:

• Climate change -- contribute to long-term records of global environmental data critical for understanding the dynamics of climate change

• Health of the ozone layer -- daily measurements of the atmospheric ozone layer that will determine whether the ozone layer is recovering as expected

• Natural disasters -- monitor wildfires, volcanic eruptions, snowstorms, droughts, floods, hurricanes and dust plumes

• Weather predictions -- a sounding instrument will collect information about cloud cover, atmospheric temperatures, humidity and other variables critical to accurate weather prediction

• Vegetation -- map global land vegetation and quantify changes in plant productivity to understand the global carbon cycle and monitor agricultural processes to predict and respond to food shortages and famines

• Global ice cover -- monitor changes to Earth’s sea ice, land ice and glaciers to track the pace of climate change

• Air pollution -- monitor the spread of health-sapping pollutants such as soot, particulate matter, nitrogen dioxide and sulfur dioxide

• Temperatures -- maintain a global record of atmospheric, land surface and sea surface temperatures critical to understanding the long-term dynamics of climate change

• Earth’s energy budget -- make measurements to determine how much energy is entering and exiting Earth's atmosphere

Image: 536540main_NPPvert2-20110415_946-710.jpg

98 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:38:05pm

re: #97 Gus 802

Clearly a case of socialism. Don't you know, the private sector could do all of that better?

99 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:38:19pm

NASA said "climate change!" Run for them hills!

//Damn, that's one multitasking satellite.

100 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:38:38pm

re: #97 Gus 802

Summary on the satellite that went up this morning.

Key science objectives and capabilities of NPP include:

Great, another satellite dedicated to wasting even more of my tax dollars. Why can't they do anything useful with satellites, like creating orbiting death lasers that we can pick off terrorists with?

101 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:38:40pm

re: #97 Gus 802

It's a voodoo satellite!!!! Cow farts!!

102 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:38:56pm

re: #96 Rightwingconspirator

Nice. And thanks for a good forum to post my Occupy LA stuff. Had a ball today with the poll.

An awesome comment left by Three Chord Monty on that thread.

103 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:39:58pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

An awesome comment left by Three Chord Monty on that thread.

Yes indeed. A certain +1 from me.

104 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:40:54pm

What's a "unit"? I'm looking at prices for compost/fill dirt and they give prices in cubic yards and then bulk prices by the "unit". WTF is a unit?

105 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:41:45pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

An awesome comment left by Three Chord Monty on that thread.

My side is still winning though!

Just teasing ya'. ;)

106 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:41:55pm

Speaking of subject, as pointed out earlier today Romney apparently (or not, depends upon who you asked) changed his mind about AGW. Now we get to this:

Perry Formally Files in New Hampshire, Hits Romney on Global Warming

On the same day that his campaign accused Republican presidential rival Mitt Romney of flip-flopping on global warming, Rick Perry told supporters here on Friday that he is not “ignorant” on the issue.

“I don’t put myself in this ignorant category,” he said, describing his position as “thoughtful, skeptical.”

[...]

Where's that Dunning-Kruger video when you need it...

107 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:44:19pm

BRB, gonna smoke outside and yell 9-9-9 at the neighborhood children. //

108 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:44:19pm

re: #103 Rightwingconspirator

Yes indeed. A certain +1 from me.

I'm a bit dismayed with the overwhelming support for OWS after all we went through at LGF with extremists in the counterjihad blogs and Tea Parties. As long as there's interesting discussion and some level of nuance at least it gives me some hope that people are really paying attention and thinking.

109 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:45:18pm

re: #106 freetoken

Speaking of subject, as pointed out earlier today Romney apparently (or not, depends upon who you asked) changed his mind about AGW. Now we get to this:

Perry Formally Files in New Hampshire, Hits Romney on Global Warming

Where's that Dunning-Kruger video when you need it...

"Thought, skeptical,' for those who don't speak politician, translates into "I'm a denier, but refuse to say as much for fear of being dubbed a dumbass/corporate whore."

110 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:46:03pm

re: #105 Gus 802

My side is still winning though!

Just teasing ya'. ;)

No surprise from me. You can't have a lefty blog critical of OWS any more than you could have a right wing blog critical of the Tea Party. I accept it was a lost battle from the start. I'm fine with that.

111 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:48:15pm

re: #94 Gus 802

I must say. This Firefox Aurora has been running really smoothly. Even as a beta release.

I'm trying it now.

112 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:52:07pm

re: #111 Rightwingconspirator

I'm trying it now.

What do you think so far?

113 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:52:17pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

I'm a bit dismayed with the overwhelming support for OWS after all we went through at LGF with extremists in the counterjihad blogs and Tea Parties.

re: #110 Killgore Trout

I accept it was a lost battle from the start. I'm fine with that.

One of these sentiments is not like the other.

114 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:53:03pm

re: #112 Gus 802

So far so good. I'll put up spy and a few tabs.

115 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:54:45pm

re: #109 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

"Thought, skeptical,' for those who don't speak politician, translates into "I'm a denier, but refuse to say as much for fear of being dubbed a dumbass/corporate whore."

The informed climate change skeptic denier!

Remember when people would get pissed off about being called a denier?

Good times.

116 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:56:24pm

re: #114 Rightwingconspirator

So far so good. I'll put up spy and a few tabs.

I've never just sat and looked at Spy. Great, now I sound like a fuckin' newbie.

117 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:57:05pm

Neat astro pic of the day:

Latest views of the V838 Monocerotis light echo from Hubble

Hubble has returned to the intriguing V838 Monocerotis many times since its initial outburst in 2002 to follow the evolution of its light echo. Two new images provide the most astonishing views of V838 to date.

The unusual variable star V838 Monocerotis (V838 Mon) continues to puzzle astronomers. This previously inconspicuous star underwent an outburst early in 2002, during which it temporarily increased in brightness to become 600,000 times more luminous than our Sun. Light from this sudden eruption is illuminating the interstellar dust surrounding the star, producing the most spectacular "light echo" in the history of astronomy.

[...]

V838 Monocerotis is close enough, and the dust around it moving fast enough, that we can see changes over just a year. Here's a pic showing the difference of 11 months, from 2005 to 2006.

118 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:58:49pm

Fox's Bolling complains that his penis hurts lol.

119 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 5:58:53pm

re: #115 Gus 802

The informed climate change skeptic denier!

Remember when people would get pissed off about being called a denier?

Good times.

Nowadays, they just argue about it. "I'm not denying, I'm just not sold on it!" And then, when pressed further, go "Well, I'm not sold on it because the science isn't settled!" Finally, when given a stern look, will whine "And I don't like how the pro-AGW crowd are all so 'alarmist' over something that might not even be happening!"

120 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:00:26pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

re: #110 Killgore Trout

One of these sentiments is not like the other.

Of course they are. They're both from me, you silly goose.

121 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:01:39pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

I'm a bit dismayed with the overwhelming support for OWS after all we went through at LGF with extremists in the counterjihad blogs and Tea Parties. As long as there's interesting discussion and some level of nuance at least it gives me some hope that people are really paying attention and thinking.

It's way too soon to say much-In the end it may be that OWS as a movement is a more welcoming home for indies than the Tea Party ever was. And we do have to remember the Occupy is only a couple months old. It does need to coalesce and firm up. It needs a singular personality. It does not need or want a co-opt like the GOP did to the early T.P.

They need to get off the grass and get some offices. But that will force them to deal with the inertia of the status quo, and make some hard compromises. They may have to wait to elect some of their own as the TP did. They will have to demonstrate some majority power somewhere.

122 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:02:14pm

re: #117 freetoken

I should correct that; the changes seen are just do to the lighting - light from the variable star is reaching the outer edges of the dust cloud, thus illuminating it in 2006 (from our vantage point) which weren't being illuminated in 2005. Still, it's fascinating to see how the dust is forming into the shapes that eerily look like it is being directed by large magnetic fields (which may be the case.)

123 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:04:27pm

re: #119 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Nowadays, they just argue about it. "I'm not denying, I'm just not sold on it!" And then, when pressed further, go "Well, I'm not sold on it because the science isn't settled!" Finally, when given a stern look, will whine "And I don't like how the pro-AGW crowd are all so 'alarmist' over something that might not even be happening!"

We run into alarmism almost everywhere. I've been on both ends of the spectrum in either being alarmist or being turned off by alarmism. Sure, people will say that AGW lobbyists are alarmist, but look at what's been done about AGW thus far? Not much from the looks of things. Most everything still has an on and off switch. Not everyone talking about AGW is an alarmist. At the same time many AGW opponents are alarmists themselves. It's a complicated feature of human behavior. Perhaps it is a survival instinct.

124 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:07:02pm

re: #123 Gus 802

Perhaps it is a survival instinct.

125 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:07:49pm

gg oakland pd, who needs policy manuals anuhow

If you want to know why people call the police Very very Bad and Socially Unacceptable Names Sometimes:

Disturbing enough on its own, the Oakland PD then denied using SIM force on protesters at all and claimed that in fact, no one had been injured. Worse yet, after protesters were hit with an exploding device while attempting to come to the aid of Olsen, they had to carry him through the crowd, begging for medical aid even though dozens of Oakland Police looked on from the other side of their barrier.

maybe it's actually because they fucking lie, imagine that

126 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:08:24pm

accountability! it's only for dirty hippies who want to enslave jews

127 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:09:36pm

I blame the internets.

And Joe the Plumber.

128 windsagio  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:09:52pm

re: #125 WindUpBird

129 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:09:53pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

An awesome comment left by Three Chord Monty on that thread.

Very good post.

130 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:09:58pm

re: #121 Rightwingconspirator

They need to get off the grass and get some offices. But that will force them to deal with the inertia of the status quo, and make some hard compromises. They may have to wait to elect some of their own as the TP did. They will have to demonstrate some majority power somewhere.

I don't see that happening and it probably wouldn't ge a good idea if it did happen. I see OWS of a continuation of the antiwar marches. Dems may pander to them but are never going to deliver because of the economic and political reality we live in. The Tea Party did actually get their own true believers (aka extremists) elected and drove their party over the edge. I don't recommend the Dems follow the same path. They may pander but I don't think they'll ever deliver.
Much of what we're seeing now is backlash from Obama pandering for election (closing Gitmo, ending the wars, etc) but now he's faced with the reality of leadership. I'm quite happy Obama is a practical leader but the radical left is pretty pissed about it.

131 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:15:51pm

re: #110 Killgore Trout

No surprise from me. You can't have a lefty blog critical of OWS any more than you could have a right wing blog critical of the Tea Party. I accept it was a lost battle from the start. I'm fine with that.

A reasonable person might think that both were entirely possible.

132 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:16:36pm

Y'all are screwed. I'm drinking Wild Turkey and listening to Redneck Mother.

//

Not really kidding. ;) OK, the screwed part is a joke.

133 windsagio  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:18:18pm

re: #110 Killgore Trout

No surprise from me. You can't have a lefty blog critical of OWS any more than you could have a right wing blog critical of the Tea Party. I accept it was a lost battle from the start. I'm fine with that.

Keep flogging that.

The problem isn't at all your extremely partisan and extremely poorly researched 'evidence', its clearly a lefty thing.

135 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:19:57pm

re: #123 Gus 802

We run into alarmism almost everywhere. I've been on both ends of the spectrum in either being alarmist or being turned off by alarmism. Sure, people will say that AGW lobbyists are alarmist, but look at what's been done about AGW thus far? Not much from the looks of things. Most everything still has an on and off switch. Not everyone talking about AGW is an alarmist. At the same time many AGW opponents are alarmists themselves. It's a complicated feature of human behavior. Perhaps it is a survival instinct.

Thing is, the whole "alarmist" bit is just an excuse to ignore the evidence and instead try to play up anybody who wants to take AGW seriously as "rushing" things. If you speak up and say that we shouldn't screw around, instead putting into place laws that will help curb future carbon emissions, you get dubbed "alarmist" because you're not willing to entertain the BS belief that AGW is either A) a myth or B) not that big a deal.

136 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:20:44pm

re: #134 CuriousLurker

Heh:

Jon Huntsman’s daughters parody Cain smoking ad

[Video]

The Cain Huntsman girls are cute.

Typed too fast.

137 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:21:20pm

re: #121 Rightwingconspirator

They need to get off the grass and get some offices. But that will force them to deal with the inertia of the status quo, and make some hard compromises. They may have to wait to elect some of their own as the TP did. They will have to demonstrate some majority power somewhere.

That's going to be difficult in their present format. It's very easy for this sort of thing to go nowhere because consensus, internal fighting, and the sense that actually using the mechanisms of our free society to achieve good outcomes is sort of dull and might not work.

Also, as people have commented, the Tea Party was born with a USB drive sticking out of it to connect it to the mothership of the GOP. The Democrats are not assured the same kind of relationship with this thing, for several reasons, independents are harder to run, and the Greens--don't get me fucking started on the Greens. So making the leap into elections and conventional politics may not be possible, or for many, desirable.

138 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:22:59pm

re: #136 makeitstop

The Cain Huntsman girls are cute.

Typed too fast.

Yeah, they are. The brunette is his spitting image.

139 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:24:04pm

re: #138 CuriousLurker

Nothing quite like having 3 babes for daughters to get one some attention in the online world.

140 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:25:13pm

re: #139 freetoken

Nothing quite like having 3 babes for daughters to get one some attention in the online world.

The mustaches have got to go, though. :)

141 windsagio  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:25:21pm

re: #139 freetoken

I thought you said 'babies' and thought, wow that went to a dark place.

142 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:26:18pm
143 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:30:34pm

Was going to do the Gourds' version.

144 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:32:19pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

I see OWS of a continuation of the antiwar marches. Dems may pander to them but are never going to deliver because of the economic and political reality we live in.

Probably true, but a well-chosen series of causes and goals could probably go somewhere on the energy we're seeing now.

Or not.

Heat produces energy, but if it's not harnessed, the little wheel doesn't spin.

145 windsagio  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:33:51pm

some musical chaos.

146 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:34:14pm

re: #126 WindUpBird

accountability! it's only for dirty hippies who want to enslave jews

No, they just wish we'd stick to having big dramatic religious services that can be used as a counterweight when needed.

Sadly, no more major holidays until December.

147 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:36:30pm

re: #145 windsagio

YES

148 windsagio  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:39:08pm

... at least I get it now.

I kept wondering 'why the bizarre hostility', but seeing it as an extension of hate on the antiwar protests which people spent so much thought and energy on back in the 'good old days' of lgf, at least I have a context now. It feels good to understand peoples motivations.

149 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:39:59pm

re: #147 WindUpBird

YES

okay...

150 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:41:52pm

Hmm. Just took a neighbor's dog back to his house. Well. He was coming down the block all alone. I whistled. He stopped in front of the house. He followed me to the front door of his house.

151 windsagio  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:42:41pm

re: #149 albusteve

most of the album is more listenable than 'Brownstone'.

152 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:43:17pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

I'm quite happy Obama is a practical leader but the radical left is pretty pissed about it.

If you're happy with Obama as a practical leader why did you say you probably weren't going to vote? It's a weird brand of cognitive dissonance you've got on display lately, saying mutually exclusionary sentiments as if there's no problem with it. You're dismayed by things here that you're simultaneously okay with, you're not down with the violence but you find it funny when directed at unarmed, non-threatening women, with distain you claim that OWS will somehow cause the far left not to vote then air your own depressed lack of motivation.

You might try bringing some consistency to this brand of contrarianism.

153 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:45:54pm

re: #151 windsagio

most of the album is more listenable than 'Brownstone'.

back before they did arenas and huge venues, I saw them a few times in surprisingly small venues...they kicked ass for a few years...really exotic sounding at the time

154 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:47:32pm

re: #149 albusteve

okay...

[Video]

:D I used to have this poster on my wall when I was in high school: Image: 1247266502_yes-union-1991.jpg

Love me some Yes, love me some Roger Dean art

155 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:48:16pm

re: #153 albusteve

back before they did arenas and huge venues, I saw them a few times in surprisingly small venues...they kicked ass for a few years...really exotic sounding at the time

did they still have the zany stage sets even in small venues?

156 windsagio  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:48:20pm

re: #153 albusteve

See that's cool. I wish I'd had more experiences like that, the closest I ever got was seeing grunge bands at outdoor shows in the rain :p

also, this is kind of generic track, but when it cuts in... damn!

157 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:51:36pm

re: #154 WindUpBird

:D I used to have this poster on my wall when I was in high school: Image: 1247266502_yes-union-1991.jpg

Love me some Yes, love me some Roger Dean art

classic

158 windsagio  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:51:42pm

re: #154 WindUpBird

but did you have a poster of the Asia Dragon?

Image: 4e139a239f9d5.image.jpg

159 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:53:11pm

re: #155 WindUpBird

did they still have the zany stage sets even in small venues?

not that I recall...just straight up rock and roll

160 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:55:23pm

re: #158 windsagio

but did you have a poster of the Asia Dragon?

Image: 4e139a239f9d5.image.jpg

I had that on vinyl :D (wasn't an Asia fan, just wanted the art)

161 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:56:27pm

Wow, nice! Statue of Liberty web cams went live today:

[Link: www.earthcam.com...]

Statue of Liberty accessorized: Live web cams offer new harbor views

The Statue of Liberty is getting accessories -- with five webcams attached to the torch held high in New York harbor offering views not seen by the public in nearly a century.

The webcams go live on Friday during a ceremony on Liberty Island marking the 125th anniversary of the dedication of the copper-clad monument, which was a gift from France to the people of America.

From computers afar, viewers will be able to watch live video streams of traffic, boats and airplanes in high-resolution panoramic images showing the Manhattan skyline, the city's borough of Brooklyn and neighboring New Jersey. [...]

More at the Christian Science Monitor...

162 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:01:36pm

re: #152 goddamnedfrank

If you're happy with Obama as a practical leader why did you say you probably weren't going to vote? It's a weird brand of cognitive dissonance you've got on display lately, saying mutually exclusionary sentiments as if there's no problem with it. You're dismayed by things here that you're simultaneously okay with, you're not down with the violence but you find it funny when directed at unarmed, non-threatening women, with distain you claim that OWS will somehow cause the far left not to vote then air your own depressed lack of motivation.

You might try bringing some consistency to this brand of contrarianism.

the feds killed my motivation...like millions of others

163 windsagio  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:02:29pm

re: #162 albusteve

its generally old pseudo-libertarian conservatives saying that though.

164 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:02:57pm

Terence Mckenna denounces Relativism


...and that's all I got to say about that.
165 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:08:38pm

re: #161 CuriousLurker

Oh, how I love NYC. It's so beautiful, especially at night. 12+ years I've been living in the area and the sight of Manhattan, NY Harbor, Lady Liberty, and the bridges spanning the East River still take my breath away. I'm hopelessly smitten. *sigh*

166 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:09:58pm

re: #163 windsagio

its generally old pseudo-libertarian conservatives saying that though.

good for them...do you suppose anyone is paying attention?....all these jerktoids spending billions for a fraction of the potential votes...it's almost laughable, and easily understandable why masses of people don't vote....serious business here at LGF, elsewhere it's almost an afterthought....politics is a team sport, basically entertainment

167 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:10:00pm

"Roundabout"

168 windsagio  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:11:07pm

re: #166 albusteve

that's the steve I know, with the trumped up cynicism :p

The thing is, its not like voting is that much work, I'm not into sulking.

169 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:11:39pm

re: #165 CuriousLurker

Oh, how I love NYC. It's so beautiful, especially at night. 12+ years I've been living in the area and the sight of Manhattan, NY Harbor, Lady Liberty, and the bridges spanning the East River still take my breath away. I'm hopelessly smitten. *sigh*

NYC smittens me too

170 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:12:36pm

re: #164 Killgore Trout

Terence Mckenna denounces Relativism

[Video]
...and that's all I got to say about that.

"I'm an atheist! Argue with me!"

//

171 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:12:44pm

re: #161 CuriousLurker

If you go to the Torch Cam, you can choose different views, and the Harbor Cam even has sound (not much to hear though). The views must be gorgeous at sunset/sunrise.

172 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:13:21pm

re: #169 albusteve

NYC smittens me too

Good to have you back. ;)

173 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:13:27pm
174 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:15:32pm

re: #168 windsagio

that's the steve I know, with the trumped up cynicism :p

The thing is, its not like voting is that much work, I'm not into sulking.

I've never not voted, but it's easy enough to justify....anyway next year I'm voting against God and I hope it upsets him

175 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:15:52pm

re: #167 prairiefire

"Roundabout"

[Video]

thanks for that

176 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:18:00pm
177 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:18:43pm

re: #175 albusteve

thanks for that

Glad you had a good trip. My children are also the smartest kids in the world. I don't think there's a quota.

178 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:20:05pm

re: #172 CuriousLurker

Good to have you back. ;)

thanks, I had to have a nap

179 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:20:58pm

re: #158 windsagio

but did you have a poster of the Asia Dragon?

Image: 4e139a239f9d5.image.jpg

I didn't (wasn't allowed.) But I wanted one.

Does that count?

Geoff is still one of my KB idols, yeah, I think it counts.

180 McSpiff  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:21:12pm

re: #178 albusteve

thanks, I had to have a nap

Even dragged me out of lurking. How ya been?

181 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:22:17pm

re: #178 albusteve

thanks, I had to have a nap

Nice to see ya, Van Winkle.

182 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:22:23pm

re: #165 CuriousLurker

Oh, how I love NYC. It's so beautiful, especially at night. 12+ years I've been living in the area and the sight of Manhattan, NY Harbor, Lady Liberty, and the bridges spanning the East River still take my breath away. I'm hopelessly smitten. *sigh*

I didn't know you were in the NYC area! We're practically neighbors! :)

183 windsagio  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:22:58pm

re: #179 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

not allowed? That's a bitch!

and yes it counts:D

184 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:23:17pm
185 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:24:13pm

re: #180 McSpiff

Even dragged me out of lurking. How ya been?

rebooted

186 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:26:15pm

re: #183 windsagio

not allowed? That's a bitch!

and yes it counts:D

Eh, it just made me like it all the more.

I posted this once for Your High-Drama 80s KB Clip of the Day, once. Can never post it too many times, imo.

187 McSpiff  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:26:19pm

re: #185 albusteve

rebooted

Heh that's a good way to sum up the last few weeks.

188 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:26:21pm

re: #181 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Nice to see ya, Van Winkle.

sometimes you just gotta take five...

189 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:26:41pm
190 McSpiff  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:26:50pm

re: #187 McSpiff

Heh that's a good way to sum up the last few weeksmonths.

191 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:28:15pm

re: #190 McSpiff

I get you....

192 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:28:16pm

re: #182 makeitstop

I didn't know you were in the NYC area! We're practically neighbors! :)

Really? Where are you? I'm in Jersey around the Oranges. Moved here from Queens around 6 years ago. I miss NYC.

193 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:28:36pm

re: #188 albusteve

sometimes you just gotta take five...

[Video]

Yes. Some Time Out.

Image: 220px-Time_out_album_cover.jpg

194 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:29:22pm
195 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:30:29pm

re: #194 Gus 802

The last F-104

[Video]Fuel baby!

Italian air force.

196 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:30:34pm

re: #193 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yes. Some Time Out.

Image: 220px-Time_out_album_cover.jpg

heh...artwork a bit ahead of it's time...
I like some cool jazz here and there

197 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:30:58pm

re: #192 CuriousLurker

Really? Where are you? I'm in Jersey around the Oranges. Moved here from Queens around 6 years ago. I miss NYC.

I'm out on Long Island. I get into NYC quite a bit, though.

I moved to Flushing from Philly in '78. At one point I moved back there, and didn't last a week. This place gets into your blood. :)

198 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:31:43pm

re: #196 albusteve

heh...artwork a bit ahead of it's time...
I like some cool jazz here and there

My wife loves her some Brubeck.

199 McSpiff  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:31:59pm

re: #192 CuriousLurker

Really? Where are you? I'm in Jersey around the Oranges. Moved here from Queens around 6 years ago. I miss NYC.

I got to spend about 4 hours in NYC the other week. Talk about a tease...

200 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:32:23pm

re: #194 Gus 802

The last F-104

[Video]Fuel baby!

two days ago I visited the CAF Museum in Midland TX...very cool place

201 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:33:50pm

re: #200 albusteve

two days ago I visited the CAF Museum in Midland TX...very cool place

Did ya? I saw few of theirs during the summer.

202 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:34:26pm

I love NYC, but I have too take all that energy in 3 days to one week doses. We had such a good day there this summer. The Alexander McQueen exhibit at the Met, shopping in SOHO (looking out for Lou Reed and Lenny Kravitz), dinner at Balthazar's. It will go down as one of my favorite days ever.

203 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:35:05pm

I've been arguing with KT for weeks now. On and off. I'm giving it all a rest tonight. :)

204 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:37:22pm

re: #198 makeitstop

My wife loves her some Brubeck.

re: #201 Gus 802

Did ya? I saw few of theirs during the summer.

it's located about 2 minutes off I-20...I couldn't resist...a sweet setup right at Midland airport...and they have a lot of odd junk all over the place...choppers, AA guns, bombs etc

205 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:38:40pm

re: #198 makeitstop

My wife loves her some Brubeck.

I prefer smashmouth blues, but Dave's okay

206 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:41:55pm

re: #197 makeitstop

I'm out on Long Island. I get into NYC quite a bit, though.

I moved to Flushing from Philly in '78. At one point I moved back there, and didn't last a week. This place gets into your blood. :)

I used to have nightmares where I was trapped back in Texas so farrrrr away from NYC with no money and was desperately trying to find a way to get back. I don't have them nearly as much as I used to, but every once in a while...

Maybe we can meet up for coffee or something one day.

207 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:42:11pm

re: #204 albusteve

re: #201 Gus 802

it's located about 2 minutes off I-20...I couldn't resist...a sweet setup right at Midland airport...and they have a lot of odd junk all over the place...choppers, AA guns, bombs etc

I wanted to visit Edwards. Oh well. You need to make an appointment way in advance. Then be part of a group. It's a real pain in the arse. Saw Mojave from a distance. They have a chopper museum in the Bay Area. Around here is an air museum outside of Buckley. Not much goes on at Buckley. Air shows around here are kind of skimpy. Some C-17 was flying in right after Obama left town on Tuesday. Got some pics of those in Watsonville and went inside one.

208 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:42:21pm

re: #205 albusteve

I prefer smashmouth blues, but Dave's okay

Me too, given the choice. I can listen to Brubeck for a while but I start to get antsy.

209 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:42:25pm

Good evening Lizardia.

Done cooking/prep work for the event tomorrow and now get to kick back, drink some amaretto and catch up on reading.

:)

210 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:42:39pm

re: #199 McSpiff

I got to spend about 4 hours in NYC the other week. Talk about a tease...

LOL, indeed!

211 Lidane  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:44:37pm

Because the best thing for K-12 education is more budget cuts:

‘StudentsFirst’ Spending $70,000 To Support MI GOP Rep. Who Backed Huge Education Cuts

212 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:45:37pm

re: #207 Gus 802

I wanted to visit Edwards. Oh well. You need to make an appointment way in advance. Then be part of a group. It's a real pain in the arse. Saw Mojave from a distance. They have a chopper museum in the Bay Area. Around here is an air museum outside of Buckley. Not much goes on at Buckley. Air shows around here are kind of skimpy. Some C-17 was flying in right after Obama left town on Tuesday. Got some pics of those in Watsonville and went inside one.

as usual, you have to seek out the best and who has the time or money to do that?...I didn't even know where the CAF was located, I was just passing thru and presto...got lucky

213 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:47:45pm

re: #196 albusteve

heh...artwork a bit ahead of it's time...
I like some cool jazz here and there

re: #198 makeitstop

My wife loves her some Brubeck.

I love me some Dave, too.

214 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:47:57pm

I miss the '70s too. That's why I have a weird fondness albusteve. For some reason he reminds me of the '70s and the guys I grew up with. I mostly had guy friends and just one close female friend at a time...the guys always seemed like more fun, less maintenance, less drama, heh.

215 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:51:17pm

re: #213 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

re: #198 makeitstop

I love me some Dave, too.

Herbie Mann is another guy in that vein I like...

216 Lidane  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:51:18pm

*sigh*

Dammit, Rangers. Are you trying to choke? WTF.

217 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:53:53pm

re: #216 Lidane

*sigh*

Dammit, Rangers. Are you trying to choke? WTF.

not looking good...seem to have lost their mojo, you do that you lose

218 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:55:30pm

re: #197 makeitstop

BTW, I didn't mean to make you uncomfortable with the cup of coffee thing—it was just a thought. I've met lots of online friends in RL, but I know lots of folks aren't comfortable with that.

219 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:57:14pm

Tom Scott and the LA Express
shuckin...
promo stuff

220 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:57:17pm
221 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:58:17pm

re: #220 Gus 802

You can't always get what you want

[Video]

dude
got
taste

222 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:59:16pm

re: #220 Gus 802

You can't always get what you want

[Video]

I swear the organist at my good friend's funeral slipped in the opening chords to this song before "Amazing Grace."
Thanks for posting it, Gus.

223 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:59:53pm

re: #218 CuriousLurker

BTW, I didn't mean to make you uncomfortable with the cup of coffee thing—it was just a thought. I've met lots of online friends in RL, but I know lots of folks aren't comfortable with that.

Oh, not at all! I'm sorry, I missed the post.

I'm tweaking a guitar I put together from parts, and I'm coming and going from the computer. The first Friday I have off from playing since May, and I'm here working on a guitar. :)

Most of the time when I'm in NYC it's pretty late at night. But every so often I get a date in the day. If I'm headed in, I'll definitely let you know.

224 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:00:04pm

re: #220 Gus 802

You can't always get what you want

[Video]

Damnit man, are you trying to get Charles charged with a felony?! Are you a troll?!

///

225 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:01:54pm

Tex-Mex crossover music; Billboard Hot 100 in 1969. It'll immediately send most Mexican American females over the age of 50 into a swoon. ;o)

Rene y Rene "Lo Mucho que Te Quiero"

226 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:02:08pm

the Stones....
major buzz

227 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:02:51pm

re: #220 Gus 802

You can't always get what you want

[Video]

My boy's rocking out like Mr. Jagger.

228 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:03:00pm
229 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:04:11pm

re: #227 prairiefire

My boy's rocking out like Mr. Jagger.

heh...
my kids grew up with the Stones...
do it

230 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:05:32pm

re: #228 Gus 802

Image: Watsonville-21.jpg

get out!...
Mustangs and Chevelles...
you're on a roll bro

231 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:05:53pm

re: #223 makeitstop

Oh, not at all! I'm sorry, I missed the post.

I'm tweaking a guitar I put together from parts, and I'm coming and going from the computer. The first Friday I have off from playing since May, and I'm here working on a guitar. :)

Most of the time when I'm in NYC it's pretty late at night. But every so often I get a date in the day. If I'm headed in, I'll definitely let you know.

Ah, a guitar. My ex used to call his guitars his "other wives".

I'm on a local NJT stop out here and the trains are few & far between at night, so for me it'd have to be on a Saturday during the day. Or I could probably get a half day off during the week if I had some advance notice—I work from home and my boss is pretty cool.

232 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:07:51pm

re: #230 albusteve

get out!...
Mustangs and Chevelles...
you're on a roll bro

The first Mustang in the background... That's "Comfortably Numb." Dave Gilmore used to own that.

233 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:10:41pm

Planes, trains and automobiles.

234 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:11:30pm

re: #232 Gus 802

The first Mustang in the background... That's "Comfortably Numb." Dave Gilmore used to own that.

still a very hot, sexy plane...like a vintage Camaro, they look fast standing still

235 albusteve  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:12:12pm

re: #233 Gus 802

Planes, trains and automobiles.

funniest movie ever made

236 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:15:41pm

re: #234 albusteve

still a very hot, sexy plane...like a vintage Camaro, they look fast standing still

Almost perfect.

I posted this one maybe?

Image: Watsonville-18.jpg

I sort of wound up in the right place at the right time with these. Everyone else walked to the exit and I followed the line and wound up right here with the winners of the car show and "Comfortably Numb" sitting right there in front of me. No rope. I could have touched it if I wanted to.

237 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:18:52pm

re: #231 CuriousLurker

Ah, a guitar. My ex used to call his guitars his "other wives".

That's what my wife calls them! It's an addiction - at this point, I've got somewhere north of 30 of them. She handles my addiction with good humor, despite the storage problems they present - at any given time there are guitars in every room of the house except the kitchen and bedroom.

I'm on a local NJT stop out here and the trains are few & far between at night, so for me it'd have to be on a Saturday during the day. Or I could probably get a half day off during the week if I had some advance notice—I work from home and my boss is pretty cool.

I'll definitely keep you posted. I enjoy meeting people in real life - Obdicut is the only Lizard I've met up with to date, but I feel like I already know a lot of you, and meeting up completes the pictures I've got stored in my head.

238 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:18:54pm

re: #222 prairiefire

I swear the organist at my good friend's funeral slipped in the opening chords to this song before "Amazing Grace."
Thanks for posting it, Gus.

How did things go, BTW? I know it wasn't fun, but did you & your friends work out some way to remember her that made you all feel a little better?

239 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:21:14pm

Better picture of the Camaro.

Image: Watsonville-22.jpg

240 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:22:32pm

re: #237 makeitstop

That's what my wife calls them! It's an addiction - at this point, I've got somewhere north of 30 of them. She handles my addiction with good humor, despite the storage problems they present - at any given time there are guitars in every room of the house except the kitchen and bedroom.

ZOMG! O_o My ex never had more than 5-6 at a time. I told him that technically he wasn't supposed to have more than 4 wives, so he was over the limit, heh.

I'll definitely keep you posted. I enjoy meeting people in real life - Obdicut is the only Lizard I've met up with to date, but I feel like I already know a lot of you, and meeting up completes the pictures I've got stored in my head.

I enjoy it too. Heck, we should have a mini-meetup with Obdi too, if he can make it. He knows my email addy, so I'll drop him a line and ask him to give it to you.

241 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:23:47pm
242 Kragar  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:25:32pm

re: #241 MikeySDCA

Cards 5-2 final.

And the good news, its fucking over

243 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:26:20pm

re: #240 CuriousLurker

ZOMG! O_o My ex never had more than 5-6 at a time. I told him that technically he wasn't supposed to have more than 4 wives, so he was over the limit, heh.

Well, I've been playing for nearly 50 years (it still boggles my mind to even type that) and collecting in earnest for about half that time, so they tend to pile up after a while. I'm always buying and selling and building and modifying. It keeps me out of trouble, and I do use all of them when I play - not all at one time, but I do 'rotate the stock,' was it were.

I enjoy it too. Heck, we should have a mini-meetup with Obdi too, if he can make it. He knows my email addy, so I'll drop him a line and ask him to give it to you.

That'd be great, thank you. Maybe an LGF NY chapter meeting is in order.

244 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:27:07pm

re: #239 Gus 802

Beautiful car.

245 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:28:01pm

re: #239 Gus 802

Better picture of the Camaro.

Image: Watsonville-22.jpg

Wow. That's a knockout.

246 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:28:25pm

The Cards win the World Series...I blame Obama!!!

///

247 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:28:39pm

re: #244 CuriousLurker

Beautiful car.

Sure is. They had to cut the air show short because of fog that blew back in.

248 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:28:50pm

re: #243 makeitstop

Well, I've been playing for nearly 50 years (it still boggles my mind to even type that) and collecting in earnest for about half that time, so they tend to pile up after a while. I'm always buying and selling and building and modifying. It keeps me out of trouble, and I do use all of them when I play.

Wow, that's impressive!

That'd be great, thank you. Maybe an LGF NY chapter meeting is in order.

It'll be fun, I'm sure of it.

249 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:29:20pm

re: #238 CuriousLurker

How did things go, BTW? I know it wasn't fun, but did you & your friends work out some way to remember her that made you all feel a little better?

Thanks, it was a nice memorial. She was cremated, so there was no casket, phew. There were six of us sorority sisters there. It was just like we went back in time 30 years to all the quirks and foibles of getting along. I was having a conversation with her in my head about how all the dynamics among us were the same.
We all felt that the memorial service was a good tribute to her. We will donate individually to the Pancreatic Cancer "Purple Stride" fund raiser in her name.
I've known her since 5th grade. There will be a hole in my life, but I'm a sentimental old fool. She would tell me to "toughen up, buttercup."
Thanks, CL ~{{CL}}

250 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:29:28pm

re: #245 makeitstop

Wow. That's a knockout.

Vintage CA plates to boot.

251 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:31:17pm

re: #241 MikeySDCA

Cards 6-2 final. Yee-ha!

Whoa.

In other news, my wife just IM'd me this link:

Metalachi!! Cool.

252 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:33:02pm

Still a tear jerker.

Goodnight Saigon

Billy Joel.

I need a cig.

253 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:34:11pm

A green communist conspiracy that bratfart's gang apparently missed:

White House Garden Activist Calls for National Garden Strategy

Maine-based garden advocate, Roger Doiron, has a way of stirring the pot when it comes to the nation's food. Many credit him with having helped inspire First Lady Michelle Obama to plant her White House kitchen garden via a year-long social media campaign he led during the last presidential campaign. Using viral images and videos, Doiron's campaign garnered over 110,000 petition signatures, won the United Nations Foundation's "On Day One" contest for the best idea for President Obama to pursue upon taking office, and attracted broad international media attention. In a newly released TEDx video, Doiron looks beyond the success of the White House garden to what needs to be done next to help the country's food garden movement grow.

"Although a kitchen garden revolution has started, we're still scratching at the surface of what gardens can do and will need to do in an increasingly hot, crowded and malnourished world," says Doiron who is Founding Director of the nonprofit Kitchen Gardeners International. Citing statistics about obesity, hunger, projected population growth and peak oil production, Doiron makes a strong case for investing more heavily in food garden education and promotion as part of the solution to the world's health, economic and environmental challenges.

Among his proposals are the following:

- Creating a long-term National Food Garden Strategy designed to increase the number of new food gardens and their productivity. [...]

- Financing this new strategy via the next Farm Bill by reallocating taxpayer dollars away from commodity crops subsidies and reinvesting them in community-based food production.

- Using the federal tax code to promote gardening through a $1000/household garden stimulus package.

- Updating town and city codes and neighborhood association bylaws to allow people to grow food in front yards and in vacant urban spaces

- Encouraging garden entrepreneurship through the passage of local food sovereignty laws like the ones passed in several Maine towns this past year.

- Brainstorming new ideas to encourage more men to join the country's kitchen garden movement, a movement that is currently nearly 75% female.

- Developing new local networks or "suburban granges" capable of bringing gardeners together online and off.

Doiron concludes his presentation by urging more people to grow their own "subversive plots" citing gardening's ability to redistribute power away from the corporations that are currently putting food on America's tables and back into the hands of the people. "Gardening is a sort of healthy gateway drug to other forms of food freedom." says Doiron. "It's not long after planting a garden that people become interested in home cooking, preserving food and locating their local farmers' market."

SUBVERSION!! This communist clearly admits to subversion, and he has a direct line to the White House!


254 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:35:59pm

re: #253 freetoken

I let out a chuckle reading that. Sheesh. I really need a cig now. Whew I tell ya'.

255 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:36:49pm

re: #249 prairiefire

Thanks, it was a nice memorial. She was cremated, so there was no casket, phew. There were six of us sorority sisters there. It was just like we went back in time 30 years to all the quirks and foibles of getting along. I was having a conversation with her in my head about how all the dynamics among us were the same.
We all felt that the memorial service was a good tribute to her. We will donate individually to the Pancreatic Cancer "Purple Stride" fund raiser in her name.
I've known her since 5th grade. There will be a hole in my life, but I'm a sentimental old fool. She would tell me to "toughen up, buttercup."
Thanks, CL ~{{CL}}

Okay, now you made me tear up, darn it! I'm really glad you all were pleased with the tribute. FWIW, a friend of mine recently survived uterine cancer and went on two walks in NYC this month in honor of a friend of hers who has lymphoma (they wore purple too). It was really important to her that she do that, so your girlfriend would probably have loved the idea of all of you making donations in her name.

Right back atcha' {{prariefire}} ;o)

256 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:37:02pm

re: #251 makeitstop

Whoa.

In other news, my wife just IM'd me this link:

[Video]Metalachi!! Cool.

That's awesome.

257 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:38:47pm

re: #256 prairiefire

That's awesome.

I'm impressed. Here's their site: Metalachi

They treat it like a put-on, but they're actually quite good. Funny how music translates like that.

The trumpet player has a Gene Simmons codpiece. Heh.

258 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:41:02pm

Hahaha! These BLRs remind me of Beck lyrics.

259 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:45:52pm
260 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:48:13pm

I can honestly say. Michelle Obama didn't even cross my mind once today. And I even spent some time thinking about the Feds to boot. These dudes really need to grow a pair of balls or something. Because from where I'm sittin' they seem to be missing some. Michelle Obama is an excellent FLOTUS.

261 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:48:19pm

Drink!

262 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:52:06pm

re: #259 Gus 802

Panama Red.

[Video]NRPS

I thought it was gonna be a video about the other Panama Red. I seriously need to step away from the computer. You infidels are such a bad influence!!11! //

And on that note, I'm going to pack it in for the night...go read a book or something.

Take care, everyone.

263 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:53:05pm

re: #262 CuriousLurker

I thought it was gonna be a video about the other Panama Red. I seriously need to step away from the computer. You infidels are such a bad influence!!11! //

And on that note, I'm going to pack it in for the night...go read a book or something.

Take care, everyone.

It is! ;) Later CL.

264 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:54:29pm

Don't Bogart That Joint!

You gotta love the contrast.

265 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:55:28pm

re: #2 EmmmieG

Is Cain unconcerned about the badgers?

Honey Badger doesn't care about a national sales tax. Honey Badger doesn't give a shit.

266 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 8:59:57pm

re: #260 Gus 802

I can honestly say. Michelle Obama didn't even cross my mind once today. And I even spent some time thinking about the Feds to boot. These dudes really need to grow a pair of balls or something. Because from where I'm sittin' they seem to be missing some. Michelle Obama is an excellent FLOTUS.

She spent yesterday in Chicago, including some time spent with Rahm at a Walgreen's, discussing food availability (said Walgreens having put in a produce department). Doesn't bother me any (though I remain quite skeptical of the whole idea of "food deserts"), since I actually find I agreed with those two's tastes in food most of the time. My dad would wonder aloud if either of them uses "list discipline" when grocery shopping, but that just his schtick and he'd be saying it in good fun.

267 Talking Point Detective  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:14:02pm

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

(though I remain quite skeptical of the whole idea of "food deserts"),.

Mind explaining that skepticism?

268 makeitstopghazi  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:16:37pm

Speaking of bands taking an idea and completely twisting it...

269 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:19:47pm

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

(though I remain quite skeptical of the whole idea of "food deserts")

While I remain skeptical that you even understand the idea.

270 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:20:19pm

re: #260 Gus 802

Michelle Obama is an excellent FLOTUS.

She's a SUBVERSIVE!! Part of the green communist plot to turn all true men into sissy gardeners.

271 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:23:22pm

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

She spent yesterday in Chicago, including some time spent with Rahm at a Walgreen's, discussing food availability (said Walgreens having put in a produce department). Doesn't bother me any (though I remain quite skeptical of the whole idea of "food deserts"), since I actually find I agreed with those two's tastes in food most of the time. My dad would wonder aloud if either of them uses "list discipline" when grocery shopping, but that just his schtick and he'd be saying it in good fun.

It's odd. But I know the motivation here. I go to Walgreens for getting bandaids or laundry detergent. Not food shopping. Let alone produce. The punchline being that Walgreens got on the map be selling medicinal liquor during prohibition. That's some legacy to work from. Especially given that Walgreens tries to pretend that they're all conservative and such. And the other odd thing is that Obama is no friend of marijuana legalization. And I'm no fan of Rahm Emanuel at all. But that's life.

272 funky chicken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:26:24pm

re: #39 EmmmieG

Somebody looked at the estimate and thought it was okay. $76 for lunch. Somebody else looked at it and thought, I can approve this.

What do you want to bet that it was a mediocre lunch, too? I paid less than $76 for my entree at Spago last week, and it was the best food I've ever had. Banquets and other large, hotel-catered meals usually suck. $76 bucks for a hotel lunch? Idiotic.

273 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:27:31pm

re: #270 freetoken

She's a SUBVERSIVE!! Part of the green communist plot to turn all true men into sissy gardeners.

Stupid internet. I never even heard of any of this stuff. What's wrong with these people?

274 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:28:31pm

One of the few of Billboard's Top 100 Hits from 1961 that could legitimately lay claim to being serious music and thus longevity:

275 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:29:20pm

I guess you have to wake up in the morning with a hard-on for life. Log-in to Big Government or Michelle Malkin. Read the latest outrage and then go from there. Seriously? That sounds like a mental problem.

276 funky chicken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:32:10pm

Wait. "food desserts?" Aren't all desserts made of food?

277 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:32:34pm

re: #272 funky chicken

Oooh, what did you have at Spago?

278 funky chicken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:34:08pm

re: #275 Gus 802

I guess you have to wake up in the morning with a hard-on for life. Log-in to Big Government or Michelle Malkin. Read the latest outrage and then go from there. Seriously? That sounds like a mental problem.

I'm not a guy, but wouldn't that kinda ruin any, well, morning enthusiasm one might have?

279 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:34:55pm

Time to watch The Office and then hit the hay.

Later folks. And remember boys. Give me three days and three nights of hard fightin'. And you shall be relieved!

280 Gus  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:36:12pm

re: #278 funky chicken

I'm not a guy, but wouldn't that kinda ruin any, well, morning enthusiasm one might have?

It sure would. It's really pretty stupid. They need to re-group or something. Later.

281 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:36:25pm

Some of the hits from 1961 that definitely do NOT hold up 40 years later:

282 funky chicken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:39:56pm

Salt crust baked fish with veggies in a mushroom sauce. And the 12 layer cake for dessert. It was my birthday, and I've wanted to eat there for many years. So, what the hell?

It was awesome, and with taxes and tip it did cost more than $76...but I guarantee it was a far better meal than those State Dept folks got for lunch from Hilton.

Carrabba's makes a great lunch, and you can get out of there for under 20 bucks, and that would include a drink, taxes, and a generous tip. Jeez, Olive Garden's lunch is great, and is even cheaper. So it does bug me that Hilton charged taxpayers $76 a head for mediocre food. For $76 bucks a person they should have had foie gras and truffles on that lunch portion.

And I won't eat foie...poor geese...and it's liver. Yucky.

283 funky chicken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:40:46pm

I'm off to bed too. Good night, everybody :-).

284 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:42:39pm

re: #276 funky chicken

Wait. "food desserts?" Aren't all desserts made of food?

I suppose you could consider them separate from dessert drinks. Port. Cocoa. That kind of thing.

285 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:46:40pm

I prefer dessert carts, meaning carts full of desserts.

286 windsagio  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:48:48pm

re: #284 SanFranciscoZionist

as compared sand desserts

Image: sand.jpg

287 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:52:11pm

Finally, 1961 had many iconic hits that even if they aren't serious music are still with us today as remembrances of the past, some of which are:

288 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:54:01pm

Overall 1961 was a pretty good year.

289 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:54:44pm

This Wild Blue premium blueberry lager's got my number, 8%. Kudos to whoever put this overly sweet liquid embarrassment in my fridge.

290 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 9:59:35pm

Night, lizards.

291 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:01:04pm

re: #271 Gus 802

It's odd. But I know the motivation here. I go to Walgreens for getting bandaids or laundry detergent. Not food shopping. Let alone produce. The punchline being that Walgreens got on the map be selling medicinal liquor during prohibition. That's some legacy to work from. Especially given that Walgreens tries to pretend that they're all conservative and such. And the other odd thing is that Obama is no friend of marijuana legalization. And I'm no fan of Rahm Emanuel at all. But that's life.

Well, most Walgreens' do not carry produce, but they don't see a need to do so. The one visited by Rahm Emanuel and Michelle Obama is something of an experiment, adding produce to see if such grocery items will sell. In northwest Chicago. where my parents live, there are dedicated produce stores in addition to supermarkets. So Walgreens sticks to its traditional role up there.

Walgreens does retain a sense of the history of their home city. Perhaps this can be best seen at their location on the southeast corner of Monroe and Clark in the Loop. The display windows carry photos from the turn of the century up till the early 1950's while outside Walgreens has maintained the "Time and Temperature Bell" from when the space was occupied by the flagship branch of the now-defunct Bell Federal Savings.

292 Lidane  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:09:47pm

Turned in my final paper for a class three hours ago. Now I'm going to try and enjoy my weekend.

Tomorrow I'm taking mom's car to get appraised at Carmax and to take a look around. We'll see what happens. :)

293 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:14:39pm

re: #292 Lidane

Tomorrow I'm taking mom's car to get appraised at Carmax and to take a look around. We'll see what happens. :)

Good luck. Car dealers and salesmen are despised for good reasons. Carmax may be no exception, though their advertising would certainly try to convince you otherwise.

294 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:15:18pm
295 laZardo  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:25:58pm

So I just finished my graduation walk and I have never felt grouchier.

296 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:27:20pm

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

You might be surprised about what I know.

Then why do you remain skeptical about such an obvious concept like the demonstrable lack of healthy, affordable market availability for food in certain areas? It's not a matter of what you know, it's a matter of what you're willing to admit. It's not even a difficult thing for someone with your admittedly limited empathic abilities to imagine, you don't own a car so how hard would it be if you lived in an area with no local market and no access to mass transit? Maybe you're under the impression that they're strictly an urban phenomenon, well guess what, they aren't.

297 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:32:59pm

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

You might be surprised about what I know.

Food deserts are a real thing, dude, and they're in your backyard

Experts have declared roughly half of Detroit (pop. 916,000) a food desert and estimate that nearly 633,000 of Chicago's 3 million residents live in neighborhoods either lacking or far away from conventional supermarkets like Jewel, Pathmark and Winn-Dixie. The paucity of affordable, healthy food options in urban communities is ironic in a country with an abundance of food. "Everyone deserves to eat," says Mari Gallagher, president of the National Center for Public Research, a Chicago group that studies urban issues. The crisis, she adds, "really is a matter of life and death."

Read more: [Link: www.time.com...]

298 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:34:57pm

re: #296 goddamnedfrank

Maybe you're under the idea that they're strictly an urban phenomenon, well guess what, they aren't.

While I endorse the general concern, I will say that map is sort of wacky. For example, in the San Diego area that map lists as a "food desert" such locations as Miramar MCAS, Lindbergh Field, and Mission Bay Park. Military bases, airports, and recreational parks are not something I would frankly be worried about as far as a food desert problem.

299 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:35:37pm

re: #298 freetoken

While I endorse the general concern, I will say that map is sort of wacky. For example, in the San Diego area that map lists as a "food desert" such locations as Miramar MCAS, Lindbergh Field, and Mission Bay Park. Military bases, airports, and recreational parks are not something I would frankly be worried about as far as a food desert problem.

MRE's are food?

300 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:37:12pm

re: #299 EmmmieG

MRE's are food?

Heh, there is no accounting for taste.

Wars are won on them, which is their purpose.

301 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:53:02pm

Hmmm. The thread has no pulse.

*Double dips her chip in the salsa. Kicks her shoes off, right in the center of the room where someone will trip on them.*

302 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:55:45pm

re: #301 EmmmieG

Well, I'm just in a Time Tunnel... moving backwards...

303 Digital Display  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 11:05:38pm

re: #301 EmmmieG

Hmmm. The thread has no pulse.

*Double dips her chip in the salsa. Kicks her shoes off, right in the center of the room where someone will trip on them.*

Hi you! I still got a pulse ( rumors I know)
/

304 Kragar  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 11:37:25pm
305 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 11:37:46pm

re: #301 EmmmieG

*Double dips her chip in...

... a perma-ban from any food oriented gathering The Behemoth has anything to do with.

306 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 11:43:43pm

So my curiosity has sent me off to look at papers on "food deserts" and I am reminded once again why I have such a low opinion of so much published research in the so called "medical" fields. Makes me want to be a Tea Partier* and zero-fund these projects.

*

307 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 11:45:41pm

re: #306 freetoken

Any associations with Dr. Oz and the like?

308 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 11:47:03pm

re: #307 Slumbering Behemoth

Any associations with Dr. Oz and the like?

Had to look that one up. Fortunately, not having ever watched Oprah I have saved my brain cells from that one.

309 freetoken  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 11:56:16pm

Night Clouds' Choral Cantata "Hands of the Clock Nearing Midnight":

310 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 28, 2011 11:57:45pm

re: #308 freetoken

He's got his own show, thanks to Oprah.

That woman...

311 makeitstopghazi  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 12:09:13am

What the costumes reveal

The party is the firm’s big annual bash. Employees wear Halloween costumes to the office, where they party until around noon, and then return to work, still in costume. I can’t tell you how people dressed for this year’s party, but I can tell you about last year’s.

That’s because a former employee of Steven J. Baum recently sent me snapshots of last year’s party. In an e-mail, she said that she wanted me to see them because they showed an appalling lack of compassion toward the homeowners — invariably poor and down on their luck — that the Baum firm had brought foreclosure proceedings against.

When we spoke later, she added that the snapshots are an accurate representation of the firm’s mind-set. “There is this really cavalier attitude,” she said. “It doesn’t matter that people are going to lose their homes.” Nor does the firm try to help people get mortgage modifications; the pressure, always, is to foreclose. I told her I wanted to post the photos on The Times’s Web site so that readers could see them. She agreed, but asked to remain anonymous because she said she fears retaliation.

Some humans really suck.

312 freetoken  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 1:04:52am
313 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 1:34:59am
314 researchok  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 1:59:27am

Morning, all

315 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 2:55:28am

[Link: www.irishcentral.com...]

Micheal Daniel Higgins, known universally as Micheal D., who looks certain to become Ireland’s next president, is 70 years old and a native of Limerick.

[...]

Higgins has had poems published in a number of periodicals, as well as publishing three collections of his poetry, including, The Betrayal (1990), his second book of poems The Season of Fire and his latest book An Arid Season.

A poet born in Limerick? What could go wrong? ///

316 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:02:12am

re: #315 Sergey Romanov

[Link: www.irishcentral.com...]

A poet born in Limerick? What could go wrong? ///

All bills in the Dial must be 3 pages long, and rhyme.

'Morning.

317 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:30:18am

Morning Cupcakes

318 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:31:16am

re: #317 RogueOne

MM.

319 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:31:45am

re: #317 RogueOne

Morning Cupcakes

Good breakfast.
I have pizza.

320 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:34:39am

re: #319 Varek Raith

Cigarettes for breakfast but I do have some cupcakes I'll have with my coffee. I like to eat healthy.

321 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:37:49am

re: #319 Varek Raith

Good breakfast.
I have pizza.

Eat it with pineapple. Healthy breakfast.

322 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:38:12am

re: #321 Sergey Romanov

Eat it with pineapple. Healthy breakfast.

*ZZZAAAPPP*

323 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:38:29am

re: #320 RogueOne

I like to eat healthy.

Me too. They're tastier.

324 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:38:34am

re: #320 RogueOne

Cigarettes for breakfast but I do have some cupcakes I'll have with my coffee. I like to eat healthy.

Had coffee and a madeline, but I'm not maudlin about it.

325 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:39:10am

re: #297 WindUpBird

Food deserts are a real thing, dude, and they're in your backyard

Would that be the Chicago that has fought tooth and nail to keep Wal-Mart out?

326 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:39:10am

re: #322 Varek Raith

*ZZZAAAPPP*

Don't zap yourself too much. Pizza is not the worst breakfast.

327 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:41:41am

Ah--Wife has added a pbnj bagel, a food with no literary history.

328 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:49:35am

Good news:

Fox To Reboot ‘In Living Color’ With Keenen Ivory Wayans; 2 Specials Set For Midseason
[Link: www.deadline.com...]

329 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:52:24am

re: #328 RogueOne

Good news:

Fox To Reboot ‘In Living Color’ With Keenen Ivory Wayans; 2 Specials Set For Midseason
[Link: www.deadline.com...]

[Video]

Beavis and Butthead are back too.

330 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:54:24am

re: #329 Varek Raith

Beavis and Butthead are back too.

[Link: www.mtv.com...]

331 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:55:35am

re: #329 Varek Raith

Beavis and Butthead are back too.

I'm a huge fan. I enjoyed the new ones Thursday, especially the werewolf episode.

332 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 3:59:04am

Morning Honcos.

333 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:01:14am

re: #325 RogueOne

Would that be the Chicago that has fought tooth and nail to keep Wal-Mart out?

Weird. I've heard about food deserts.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

334 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:07:12am

re: #329 Varek Raith

Beavis and Butthead are back too.

Beavis and Butthead are sort of fun until they grow up and become platoon leaders.

335 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:07:54am

re: #333 Cannadian Club Akbar

Mississippi, one big food desert and the fattest state.
[Link: www.suntimes.com...]

If the hungry ones would eat the fat ones it would solve both problems. I'm an idea man.

336 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:10:00am

re: #334 Decatur Deb

My OCS class had one. We called him "short round" (artillery reference for those that don't get it).

337 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:14:02am

re: #336 RogueOne

My OCS class had one. We called him "short round" (artillery reference for those that don't get it).

Oh ,, I thought it was because he had a low sperm count!

338 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:14:42am

re: #337 sattv4u2

That was during the height of DADT. I didn't ask.

339 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:14:53am

re: #325 RogueOne

Would that be the Chicago that has fought tooth and nail to keep Wal-Mart out?

How are teh two possibly related?
//

Also, Good Morning Honcos!!

340 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:16:10am

Heh, didn't know that Elizabeth Warren was a Republican into her 40s. (Heck, until recently I thought she is in her 40s.)

341 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:17:33am

re: #340 Sergey Romanov

I think that might be the best race to watch in the country. 2 good candidates, should be fun.

342 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:18:38am

re: #340 Sergey Romanov

Heh, didn't know that Elizabeth Warren was a Republican into here 40s. (Heck, I thought she is in her 40s.)

In Massachusetts, the line is pretty indistinguishable.

343 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:19:28am

re: #342 sattv4u2

Is mass. your home state?

344 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:22:05am

re: #342 sattv4u2

In Massachusetts, the line is pretty indistinguishable.

From wiki I see she is not a native and was all over the map (literally) in her career. When did she arrive in MA?

345 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:22:33am

re: #343 RogueOne

Is mass. your home state?

Yes

Born just outside of Boston (could walk to Boston Garden from my house in 45 minutes when I was a kid)

Spent most of the 1st 43 years of my life in/around Boston

346 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:23:23am

re: #344 Sergey Romanov

From wiki I see she is not a native and was all over the map (literally) in her career. When did she arrive in MA?

I'm not really sure.

I moved from Boston (permanently, I think) about 13 years ago

347 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:23:34am

re: #339 rwdflynavy

Hey I know you posted a story about Apple the other day. Not sure if this is a different story but wondering if you saw it. It's dated 10/28/2011.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

And the money quote (from a link inside the link):
"It's a topic for the board on an ongoing basis and we will continue to discuss it," Cook said in response to an analyst question. Apple CFO Peter Oppenheimer jumped in after Cook was finished answering the question, to point out that more than two-thirds of Apple's $81 billion cash pile was sitting offshore.

348 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:24:25am

re: #345 sattv4u2

That's why you're such a lib! Well, for a conservative. ///

349 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:24:42am

re: #325 RogueOne

Would that be the Chicago that has fought tooth and nail to keep Wal-Mart out?

probably!

(you won't find me trashing walmart. sometimes you just need Fallout New vegas for the 360 at 3 in the morning)

350 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:25:14am

re: #348 Sergey Romanov

That's why you're such a lib! Well, for a conservative. ///

Back "home", I'm a raging rwnj! (comparatively)!

351 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:26:54am

re: #348 Sergey Romanov

re: #350 sattv4u2

Back "home", I'm a raging rwnj! (comparatively)!

"here" (I live an hour + outside of Atlanta) I'm a raving liberal loon (comparatively)!

352 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:27:15am

re: #350 sattv4u2

Back "home", I'm a raging rwnj! (comparatively)!

MA rwnj is a pinko hippie in AL./

353 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:27:39am

re: #352 Sergey Romanov

Or GA /

354 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:27:40am

re: #352 Sergey Romanov

MA rwnj is a pinko hippie in AL./

heh ,, see 351

355 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:27:51am

re: #350 sattv4u2

So what does a boston-atlanta accent sound like and can anyone understand you through a drive-thru speaker?

356 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:28:54am

re: #355 RogueOne

So what does a boston-atlanta accent sound like and can anyone understand you through a drive-thru speaker?

They understand him. They usually say "No, I don't want fries with that"!!
/

357 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:30:12am

re: #355 RogueOne

So what does a boston-atlanta accent sound like and can anyone understand you through a drive-thru speaker?

I still have a strong Brahmin/ Back Bay/ Kennedy-esq accent

Funny thing is, my son has a Boston accent (not nearly as strog as mine, but you can tell)

We moved here when he was 4. He's 17 now and most of his teachers and friends (especially grammar school) had southern accents, so we thought at his age he'd pick it up

358 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:30:38am

re: #356 Cannadian Club Akbar

They understand him. They usually say "No, I don't want fries with that"!!
/

hey , at least I don't have to pay for the pointy hats!

359 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:34:11am

If a funeral is on Halloween, is it appropriate to come in costume?

360 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:36:09am

Guy's pic on the front page of this link is charged with DUI/manslaughter. He doesn't look drunk to me.
/How do you say 30 years?
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

361 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:36:18am

re: #359 RogueOne

If a funeral is on Halloween, is it appropriate to come in costume?

Sure
But not your Ballerina outfit

Ghost, angel, devil etc are all acceptable!

362 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:36:47am

re: #359 RogueOne

If a funeral is on Halloween, is it appropriate to come in costume?

Dress up as the dead person. It will be a hoot!!!

363 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:37:10am

re: #360 Cannadian Club Akbar

Guy's pic on the front page of this link is charged with DUI/manslaughter. He doesn't look drunk to me.
/How do you say 30 years?
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

It'll take him half that just to sleep it off!

364 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:40:57am

Coast Guard intercepts drug sub with 7 tons of cocaine worth $180 million
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

Looks like I picked the wrong week to start smoking crack.

365 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:41:08am

re: #362 Cannadian Club Akbar

Dress up as the dead person. It will be a hoot!!!

I received an angry email from my mom last night just because I suggested she watch a couple zombie movies so she knows how to handle any emergency when she goes to a family funeral Monday, "just in case".

366 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:42:11am

re: #364 Cannadian Club Akbar

Coast Guard intercepts drug sub with 7 tons of cocaine worth $180 million
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

Looks like I picked the wrong week to start smoking crack.

Go down to the docks and volunteer to help them inventory!!

(one for you, and one for me,,,, one for you and ,,,,,)

367 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:42:15am

OK, I finally found this schlocky movie which I didn't finish watching many, many years ago but that somehow stuck in my memory. Thank IPU for torrents! So, bbl.

368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:44:41am

re: #364 Cannadian Club Akbar

Somebody in a cartel somewhere is going to die because of this.

We probably should have let it through.

/

369 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:48:06am

re: #368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You were talking about John Wayne Gacy the other day. I looked at his Wiki page and found this:
Before the execution began, the chemicals administered to perform the execution unexpectedly solidified, clogging the IV tube administering the chemicals into Gacy's arm and complicating the execution procedure. Blinds covering the window through which witnesses observed the execution were drawn, and the execution team replaced the clogged tube to complete the procedure. After ten minutes, the blinds were reopened and the execution resumed. The entire procedure took a total of 18 minutes to complete

Couldn't happen to a nicer person.

370 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:48:26am

Justin Bieber: The Anti-Metallica

Justin Bieber: Sen. Klobuchar should be ‘put away in cuffs’
[Link: thehill.com...]

Oh, “Baby!” A battle is brewing between teen pop star Justin Bieber and Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) over an anti-piracy bill she is sponsoring.

The baby-faced Canadian pop star told Washington radio station Hot 99.5 on Friday that the congresswoman should be “put away in cuffs” for her support of a bill that would make it a felony to post unlicensed content online 10 times in 180 days. The bill is backed by the Recording Industry Association of America, the Motion Picture Association of America and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

371 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:51:25am

Can't sleep;
Clowns will eat me.

372 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:52:45am

Thomas Davis Answered Door Naked While Watching Child Porn: Cops
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

He really didn't think things through.

373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:54:09am

re: #369 Cannadian Club Akbar

There was a great "Far Side" once... guy's in old sparky and it won't work. Guard says to the guard at the big switch... "Yank it up and down a few times."

The look on the con's face is great.

374 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:59:04am

Speaking of great cheesy movies and clowns, anyone remember Killer Klowns From Outer Space?

375 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:59:59am

re: #374 RogueOne

Speaking of great cheesy movies and clowns, anyone remember Killer Klowns From Outer Space?

[Video]

Otherwise known as

"Meet My In-Laws"

376 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:04:57am

re: #375 sattv4u2

"Meet My In-Laws"

Full disclosure. I adore my mother in law.

Friend told me this mother in law joke a couple of days ago.

"I gave my mother in law a burial plot for Christmas two years ago. She was upset that I didn't get her anything last year. I told her, 'Well, I figured since you didn't use the last gift I got you...'"

377 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:06:20am

re: #376 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

((Full disclosure. I adored my mother in law also)).

378 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:07:53am

re: #376 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #377 sattv4u2

Make that 3 of us. My last MiL tried to punch me in the mouth during a family dinner so this one can do no wrong.

379 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:10:36am

re: #378 RogueOne

re: #377 sattv4u2

Make that 3 of us. My last MiL tried to punch me in the mouth during a family dinner so this one can do no wrong.

Did you tell the ex MIL, "Ha!! Ya missed!! And BTW, I'm fucking your daughter!!!"
/

380 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:13:13am

re: #379 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did you tell the ex MIL, "Ha!! Ya missed!! And BTW, I'm fucking your daughter!!!"
/

I'd tell you what I said but it would get massive downdings without the proper context. I might have had the swing she took at me coming but she started it. Her husband thought my comment was funny, he spewed!, the meal turned into a melee and I was never invited to another family function.

381 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:14:45am

re: #380 RogueOne

I was never invited to another family function.

I just say I have to work!!

382 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:16:03am

re: #381 sattv4u2

I've always figured if you're going to go out, go out with a bang

383 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:20:19am

Security Breach!

Obamas' Halloween candy revealed
[Link: www.politico.com...]

The White House Halloween candy lineup: Eye of newt, toe of frog, and dried fruit.

Truly bloodcurdling. Who’d want to eat dried fruit?

All tricks aside, White House trick-or-treaters will be given a box of White House M&Ms, a proprietary sweet butter cookie and a serving of dried fruit, according to a White House press release sent out Friday.

Story has this pic:
Image: 111028_white_house_pumpkin_ap_283_regular.jpg

I think the guy on the right is turning his pumpkin into a bong.

384 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:21:45am

re: #383 RogueOne

I think the guy on the right is turning his pumpkin into a bong.

Nope ,,, pumpkin envy !!

385 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:25:44am

re: #383 RogueOne

The White House Sweet Dough Butter Cookie Recipe

1 lb Sugar 1 tsp Vanilla
2 lbs Butter 1 tsp Salt
3 Eggs 3 lbs All Purpose Flour

Mix the butter and sugar till soft and well beaten. Then add eggs, vanilla, salt and half the flour. Beat on slow speed till mixed, then add the rest of the flour and mix until incorporated.

Push flat onto a cookie sheet and refrigerate overnight. Roll out to one quarter inch thick and cut out cookie shapes with cookie cutter.

Bake at 350F for 14 minutes and then allow to cool.

386 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:28:39am

re: #385 Cannadian Club Akbar

The article says it's a "proprietary" cookie which I think means it only works with certain software. Probably apple.

387 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:28:46am

I watched a woman on Diners, Drive Ins and Dives make fettuccine last night.
Very impressive.

388 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:38:53am

Occupy Oakland: Tents return as documentary filmmaker Michael Moore energizes protesters
[Link: www.mercurynews.com...]

Mayor Jean Quan Friday backed off her no-camping request to Occupy Oakland protesters, who seemed determined to ignore the edict anyway by covering Frank Ogawa Plaza with dozens of tents.

City Hall issued a list of guidelines, but the protesters seemed to be setting their own agenda. A Friday afternoon visit by documentary filmmaker Michael Moore to the plaza only strengthened their determination and defiance. Moore, in turn, credited Occupy Oakland for energizing the national movement.

People all over the country watched as police on Tuesday hurled tear gas and other projectiles at Oakland protesters, Moore said.
....
One camper, 19-year-old Jesse Orton, from Oregon, said he has no intention of leaving the plaza at night despite Quan's request.

"It is a free world," he said. "Why should they have power over me?"

He said he would not listen to the mayor, but that she could "come join us and smoke a bowl with us."

389 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:41:52am

re: #388 RogueOne

Is Quan schitzophrenic or something? If you're just going to wind up letting them camp there, why launch a confrontation where you kick them out in the first place?

390 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:43:36am
391 Flounder  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:46:46am

re: #390 Cannadian Club Akbar

Exempt, he pays union dues to the film actors guild

392 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:48:02am

re: #391 Shropshire_Slasher

Exempt, he pays union dues to the film actors guild

And he wears baseball caps!

393 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:50:16am

re: #389 Obdicut

Is Quan schitzophrenic or something? If you're just going to wind up letting them camp there, why launch a confrontation where you kick them out in the first place?

It's possible that they're learning from their mistakes.

FTA:

Asked why campers were allowed to return, Quan said, the city is not exactly "letting" them camp again.
"We are asking them not to camp," she said, but quickly added that people were not being moved out because "closing down the camp would cause more violence."
The health issues that prompted the raid on the camp had not returned, she said.

and more importantly:

He asked the public to turn over video of incidents to police. Jordan also said the monitoring agreement connected to the Riders lawsuit "does not prevent us from using bean bags." The lawsuit stems from a police misconduct scandal in 2003.
Rubber bullets, however, Quan added, are not allowed. "One of the things we are looking at is, 'Did someone else bring them in, was there a disconnect?' "

They've moved from "we didn't do it!" to a solid "maybe" they were used. The one pic I saw of someone getting hit with a rubber bullet looked pretty conclusive to me.

394 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:50:34am

re: #392 sattv4u2

And he wears baseball caps!

Pfftt. Spartans fan.
/

395 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:52:13am

re: #394 Cannadian Club Akbar

Pfftt. Spartans fan.
/

Just showing that he's one of 'the people', unlike those wolverines who are "the system"!

396 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:52:37am

I just noticed the first frame of the video on that link there's a crucified ronald mcdonald in the background. snort.

397 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:53:53am

re: #396 RogueOne

I just noticed the first frame of the video on that link there's a crucified ronald mcdonald in the background. snort.

But Nana Pelosi says they're just a "small company"!!

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]
//

398 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:56:36am

"I knew about it before I knew about it"

Eric Holder to testify on Fast and Furious

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

399 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:57:15am

re: #390 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, at least Michael Moore isn't part of the 1%.

Oh, wait, yes he is.

LOL. Good catch. Moore is not evil, but boy, is he a clown.

400 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:57:31am

re: #395 sattv4u2

Just showing that he's one of 'the people', unlike those wolverines who are "the system"!

I hate U of M more.

401 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:58:18am

re: #400 Cannadian Club Akbar

I hate U of M more.

They didn't cover the spread for you, huh?

402 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:58:18am

re: #400 Cannadian Club Akbar

I hate U of M more.

Booo! Go Blue! WOLVERINES!

403 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:59:08am

re: #398 sattv4u2

"I knew about it before I knew about it"

Eric Holder to testify on Fast and Furious

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

That could be fun to watch.

404 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:59:34am

re: #401 sattv4u2

re: #402 RogueOne

Well, at least they're not Ohio State.

405 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:00:50am

re: #403 RogueOne

That could be fun to watch.

Maybe, but it looks as if he has his script ready

Holder later explained in a letter to Congress that he didn't read those memos, and that in any event, nobody at the Justice Department who knew of Fast and Furious was aware of the specific "gunwalking" tactics used.


"who,,, US !?!?!"
"The dog ate my homework!"

406 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:00:59am

When I watched "Fahrenheit", I, of course, saw Bush's "rich and richer" quip. I probably thought something like "whoah". Of course, back then I had no idea about what "Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner" was, nor did Moore give any indication of that. Dishonest is as dishonest does.

407 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:01:16am

re: #404 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have to root for Thad Matta. He continued to support Butler even after he left.

408 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:02:36am

re: #406 Sergey Romanov

When I watched "Fahrenheit", I, of course, saw Bush's "rich and richer" quip. I probably thought something like "whoah". Of course, back then I had no idea about what "Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner" was, nor did Moore give any indication of that. Dishonest is as dishonest does.

Christopher Hitchens agrees.
[Link: www.slate.com...]

409 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:03:20am

re: #407 RogueOne

I have to root for Thad Matta. He continued to support Butler even after he left.

I love Butler and Canicius.

410 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:04:47am

re: #409 Cannadian Club Akbar

I love Butler and Canicius.

Was he the emperor just before or just after Caligula???

411 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:06:56am

Good idea, bad execution:

Colorado Springs man in trouble after 2 dates arrive at same time
[Link: www.denverpost.com...]

A man was charged with false reporting when he called in a robbery to Colorado Springs police, after his girlfriend and a Craig's List acquaintance arrived at his apartment at the same time.

At 3:13 a.m., officers were called to the Village Seven four-plex at 4995 Picturesque Circle, on a report of a burglary in progress, according to the Colorado Springs Police Department's blotter.

Five officers arrived at the apartment, where 24-year-old Kevin Gaylor, a resident at the complex, reported the robbery.

Shortly after arriving, police learned of Gaylor's ruse.

A Denver woman, who had only just met Gaylor on Craig's List, was coming to visit Gaylor at his apartment when Gaylor's girlfriend unexpectedly arrived home.

When the woman arrived, Gaylor called police and reported the attempted robbery.

Oops

412 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:12:18am

Another update on the on-going Houston DWI scandal:


Harris County district attorney called to testify in DWI trial
[Link: www.chron.com...]

Misdemeanor DWI cases are so common in Houston's criminal courthouse that they seem to merit attention only when they involve a pro athlete, a law enforcement official or the daughter of a mayor.

One scheduled to continue on Friday may dwarf any others, with significant implications for an embattled Harris County District Attorney's Office.

A day after the revelation that her office is the target of a grand jury investigation, District Attorney Pat Lykos was called to testify Thursday in an ongoing DWI trial because she made public comments regarding the accuracy of results from the Houston Police Department's troubled mobile breath-testing vehicles.

"The reliability of the BAT vans has come into serious question by the chief prosecutor of Harris County herself," declared Jackie Carpenter, a defense attorney in the DWI trial. "If they're so unreliable, then why are you prosecuting someone with evidence you deem unreliable?"

413 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:12:49am

re: #411 RogueOne

If the guy had any skills he would have had himself a threesome. Or two black eyes. Whatever.

414 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:16:19am

Speaking of in-laws, the perfect xmas gift is going cheap:

Bids low at auction of Kevorkian suicide machine
[Link: www.denverpost.com...]

A suicide machine belonging to Dr. Jack Kevorkian​ was withdrawn Friday from an auction of the assisted-suicide advocate's possessions after failing to draw a high enough bid, while 17 of his paintings tied up in a legal dispute with a suburban Boston museum found no takers.

415 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:18:40am

re: #411 RogueOne

Lying to your girlfriend is one thing, lying to the police is another...

416 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:21:04am

re: #415 ralphieboy

Lying to your girlfriend is one thing, lying to the police is another...

And if your GF is a police officer, well...

417 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:26:07am

Faulkner is facing a felony theft charge for stealing the $45,000 forklift and misdemeanor theft for stealing the $8 sandwich.
[Link: pittsburgh.cbslocal.com...]

I'm thinking he should try to get the forklift charge dropped in a plea deal.
/

418 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:26:11am

re: #416 Cannadian Club Akbar

And if your GF is a police officer, well...

You don't have to buy cuffs!

419 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:27:00am

re: #417 Cannadian Club Akbar

Faulkner is facing a felony theft charge for stealing the $45,000 forklift and misdemeanor theft for stealing the $8 sandwich.
[Link: pittsburgh.cbslocal.com...]

I'm thinking he should try to get the forklift charge dropped in a plea deal.
/

Thats a helluva big sandwich for 8 bucks if he needed a forklift for it

420 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:28:57am

re: #419 sattv4u2

Thats a helluva big sandwich for 8 bucks if he needed a forklift for it

It was a Reuben. The story would have been better if he was stealing a Po' Boy.

421 Flounder  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:29:45am

re: #420 Cannadian Club Akbar

Or a Monte Cristo...MMMMMM

422 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:30:16am

It is a cold and windy morning here in Virginia. It's going to be worse in NYC up the East Coast. I wonder how the OWS crowd is going to survive. Protesting is one thing but staying outside during a cold nor'easter is stupid.

423 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:37:07am

re: #421 Shropshire_Slasher

Or a Monte Cristo...MMM

I think Bennigan's used to serve Monte Cristos with a raspberry melba. Was yummy.

424 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:40:25am

re: #423 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think Bennigan's used to serve Monte Cristos with a raspberry melba. Was yummy.

I once dated a lady named Melba

After we broke up, she would often give me "the raspberry"

Does that count?

425 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:41:26am

re: #424 sattv4u2

I once dated a lady named Melba

After we broke up, she would often give me "the raspberry"

Does that count?

Sounds like that relationship was probably toast, anyway.

426 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:42:30am

Cops don't dig hugs, even manly hugs:

City of Buena Park Settles Case of Man Allegedly Beaten By Police Officers
[Link: www.prweb.com...]

The City of Buena Park has settled a lawsuit alleging excessive force by three of its police officers at Knotts Berry Farm's Halloween Haunt Night 2010. The complaint alleged that the police officers filed false police reports and caused the District Attorney's Office to file charges against Mr. Love. Mr. Love was tried for resisting arrest and assault on the police officers. Mr. Love was acquitted on the criminal charges after a jury trial.
....
Mr. Love reached out his right hand to shake hands with Sgt. Lovchik and said “when I came, we showed respect right?” Mr. Love shook Sgt. Lovchik’s hand and gave him a “manly hug” by pulling him in close and giving Sgt. Lovchik two pats on the back with his other (left) hand while at the same time saying “all right peace”. Sgt. Lovchik pushed Mr. Love away and Mr. Love let go and started to walk towards the pedestrian tunnel. Some of the surrounding Police Officers on foot started to laugh about the “manly hug”.

Mr. Love alleged in his federal complaint that OFFICER R. PLUMLEE while on a mounted police horse immediately rode up with his three (3) foot wooden saber in his right hand; he maneuvered his horse to pin Mr.Love against the chain link fence and then struck Mr. Love with the wooden saber at least two times on Mr.Love’s left shoulder and back. Mr. Love alleged that he immediately put his hands over his head to protect himself from the repeated blows of the wooden saber. The complaint further alleged that OFFICER PLUMLEE’s horse lost its footing and fell to the ground. After the horse fell, the complaint goes on to state that other Buena Park officers, including OFFICER T. REYES, allegedly jumped on Mr. Love and tackled Mr. Love from behind down onto the ground with one officer after another repeatedly beating Mr. Love.

427 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:42:49am

re: #425 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Sounds like that relationship was probably toast, anyway.

Yeah ,, I kinda had egg on my face after that

428 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:43:53am

Jennifer Gomes, Gym Teacher At Denver Catholic School, Left Bomb Threat To Avoid School
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

But wait, there's more...
Gomes also has a criminal history of negligent child abuse from 2009 when she worked as a daycare provider. Charges were later dropped after Gomes completed her community service.

That's where you want the kiddies, right near her.

429 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:44:36am

Joan Rivers: ‘There Are No Gay Men in Zuccotti Park’

Joan Rivers hosted a book party at the 21 Club yesterday for Double Life: A Love Story from Broadway to Hollywood, by Alan Shayne and Norman Sunshine, which chronicles the 50-year relationship of a gay male couple. On that note, does Joan really think gay men dress better than straight ones? "Of course. Gay men have better bodies, on the whole. That’s number one, and number two: They care more about what they look like. Very seldom will you find a gay schlep. Am I right? Very few homeless." She continued, "This is why there are no gay protestors in Zuccotti Park. Because there’s no place to change, and no closets." So how does she feel about Occupy Wall Street, in general? "I think Occupy Wall Street was terrific the first week, and it has now turned into a very happy druggy party. I suggest they all get jobs and go back to work," she responded. "What was an amazing and wonderful thing, I now find just ridiculous. Everyone’s on drugs and everybody’s singing, and they now have a DVD out, and now they want to do a reality show." Any fashion advice for the protesters? "Wash, rinse, and repeat."

430 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:47:02am

re: #429 NJDhockeyfan

Why are you, of all people, reading Joan Rivers?

431 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:47:54am

re: #430 Obdicut

Why are you, of all people, reading Joan Rivers?

I love Joan Rivers. She's funny.

432 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:49:10am

re: #430 Obdicut

re: #431 Cannadian Club Akbar

I love Joan Rivers. She's funny.

This

Saw her stand up routine in Boston back in the late 80's

433 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:50:31am

re: #430 Obdicut

Why are you, of all people, reading Joan Rivers?

Because she disses OWS.
;)

434 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:50:39am

re: #431 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oy. She grates on my nerves even before she starts her dumb, obvious jokes. That voice.

435 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:51:14am

Her wiki photo is scary.

436 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:51:49am

re: #435 Sergey Romanov

Her wiki photo is scary.

Dude, she's 112 years old.

437 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:52:02am

re: #430 Obdicut

Why are you, of all people, reading Joan Rivers?

It was a story in NY Mag. I'm not a Rivers fan though. I don't get her humor.

438 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:52:58am

re: #434 Obdicut

Oy. She grates on my nerves even before she starts her dumb, obvious jokes. That voice.

They're stale now, because shes' been doing the same schtick for 50 (+) years now
But back in the 70's she pushed the envelope, especially being a female

439 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:52:59am

It's nice to see the guys from Super Troopers got other jobs.

Sheriff demotes 5 Knox deputies over traffic stop [Link: www.knoxnews.com...]

Whatever the driver did to avoid a traffic ticket, the cameras didn't capture it.

Knox County Sheriff Jimmy "J.J." Jones says it was enough to cost five deputies their badges, guns, cruisers and police powers. The sheriff said he demoted the officers from patrol to corrections after they admitted to "improvising" a creative punishment for a 19-year-old driver stopped on suspicion of speeding Oct. 16.
....
The officers curse throughout the traffic stop and finally ask Phillips, who's off-camera, whether he's embarrassed. One deputy holds a baseball bat.

"Yes, sir, very embarrassed," Phillips said.

"Well, let me ask you a question," one of the officers said. "Do you want to be a little more embarrassed and get away with one speeding ticket, a couple miles over (the limit), or do you want to get three tickets. ... This officer's got a proposition for you. If you do it, and you do it good, this officer's only gonna give you one ticket for speeding."

The sound cuts out at that point and never resumes. The video shows the deputies gathered around laughing, one wiping his eyes, and the carload of teenagers driving away.

440 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:53:13am

If you're approximately my age, you might have watched The Electric Company as a wee tyke. You might or might not realize that Joan Rivers narrated the recurring "Adventures of Letterman", and the great Gene Wilder was the voice of Letterman.

441 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:53:19am

re: #437 NJDhockeyfan

I don't get it. You don't like her humor, you're not a fan, so why'd you post the article?

Do you have any Yakoff Smirnoff coming up next? Or maybe Vanilla Ice's latest single?

442 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:53:58am

re: #428 Cannadian Club Akbar

Jennifer Gomes, Gym Teacher At Denver Catholic School, Left Bomb Threat To Avoid School
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

But wait, there's more...
Gomes also has a criminal history of negligent child abuse from 2009 when she worked as a daycare provider. Charges were later dropped after Gomes completed her community service.

That where you want the kiddies, right near her.

Speaking of teachers...

Lebanon, Ohio: A high school teacher was convicted Thursday of having sex with five students, some of them football players, after a judge rejected an insanity defense that argued the teens took advantage of her.

Stacy Schuler was sentenced to a total of four years in prison for the encounters with the Mason High School students at her home in Springboro in southwest Ohio in 2010. She can ask a judge to free her from prison after six months.

The 33-year-old Schuler, who could have faced decades in prison, cried as she was handcuffed and led out of the courtroom.

The five teens testified that Schuler, a health and gym teacher, had been drinking alcohol at the time of the encounters and was a willing participant who initiated much of the contact. The teens were about 17 at the time. The age of consent in Ohio is 16, but it's illegal for a teacher to have sex with a student.

443 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:54:10am

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

444 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:54:28am

re: #435 Sergey Romanov

Her wiki photo is scary.

She's turned into a Madame puppet:
Image: madame.jpg

445 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:55:17am

re: #443 sattv4u2

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

Can you at least once tell the drive "don't fn beckon me anymore"?!//

446 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:56:32am

re: #440 negativ

I didn't know that. I did know Scatman Crothers was the voice of Hong Kong Phoey (plus many other animated characters)

447 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:56:53am

re: #441 Obdicut

I don't get it. You don't like her humor, you're not a fan, so why'd you post the article?

Do you have any Yakoff Smirnoff coming up next? Or maybe Vanilla Ice's latest single?

Jesus Christ, it was a story about another stupid celebrity making dumbass comments. WTF is the problem?

448 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:57:10am

re: #445 Sergey Romanov

Can you at least once tell the drive "don't fn beckon me anymore"?!//

but,, But , BUT ,,the beckoning is the best part!!

449 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:57:47am

re: #448 sattv4u2

but,, But , BUT ,,the beckoning is the best part!!

And the waiting is the hardest part. So I hear.

450 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:57:50am

re: #448 sattv4u2

but,, But , BUT ,,the beckoning is the best part!!

Well, if you're into it.

NTTAWWT!!!
//

451 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:57:55am

re: #442 NJDhockeyfan

Those poor 17 yr old football players are probably scarred for life. Here all she was doing was "thinking of the children" and it's off to prison.

452 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:00:53am

re: #451 RogueOne

Those poor 17 yr old football players are probably scarred for life. Here all she was doing was "thinking of the children" and it's off to prison.

I posted that story the other day. And there's this:
She can ask a judge to free her from prison after six months.

453 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:01:10am

re: #440 negativ

Lick a Lolly

454 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:03:00am

re: #415 ralphieboy

Lying to your girlfriend is one thing, lying to the police is another...

[heh] Quite Concur.

455 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:03:01am

re: #453 RogueOne

I made sure this wasn't already on YouTube before I uploaded it; one of the catchiest songs from the show! Those leaving obscene comments will be humiliated, and blocked from future usage!

Also, 4chan generation thanks whoever uploaded that.

456 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:03:24am

Mornin' everyone...we still talking about that Sarah Palin look alike teacher who fucked five football players? All of whom were beyond the state's age of consent? But yes, they were students, and she shouldn't have fucked them. And they get to go to junior college and brag that they got a gym teacher sent to prison. That'll turn on the girls.

457 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:04:06am

re: #422 NJDhockeyfan

It is a cold and windy morning here in Virginia. It's going to be worse in NYC up the East Coast. I wonder how the OWS crowd is going to survive. Protesting is one thing but staying outside during a cold nor'easter is stupid.

Same thing for being outside in a Chicago snowstorm. Although I've done that, if only to keep a path shoveled.

458 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:05:21am

re: #454 Dark_Falcon

[heh] Quite Concur.

I don't know man, some gfs are way scarier than a cop.
;)

459 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:05:42am

re: #453 RogueOne

The comment thread is epic too:

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460 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:05:45am

re: #457 Dark_Falcon

Same thing for being outside in a Chicago snowstorm. Although I've done that, if only to keep a path shoveled.

Aw, shit..first storm of the year...here come the global warming jokes.

Speaking of AGW...one denier is getting his ass handed to him.
[Link: freethoughtblogs.com...]

461 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:06:06am

re: #458 Varek Raith

I don't know man, some gfs are way scarier than a cop.
;)

I'm recalling a story you've told in the past. Hmm...

462 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:08:13am

re: #449 Cannadian Club Akbar

And the waiting is the hardest part. So I hear.

463 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:09:36am

re: #456 darthstar

Mornin' everyone...we still talking about that Sarah Palin look alike teacher who fucked five football players? All of whom were beyond the state's age of consent? But yes, they were students, and she shouldn't have fucked them. And they get to go to junior college and brag that they got a gym teacher sent to prison. That'll turn on the girls.

I think Van Halen wrote a song about that.

464 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:10:17am

re: #463 NJDhockeyfan

One of the greatest videos ever. EVAH!!!

465 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:11:26am

re: #447 NJDhockeyfan

Jesus Christ, it was a story about another stupid celebrity making dumbass comments. WTF is the problem?

Well, that. What's confusing you?

466 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:13:03am

re: #460 darthstar

Aw, shit..first storm of the year...here come the global warming jokes.

Speaking of AGW...one denier is getting his ass handed to him.
[Link: freethoughtblogs.com...]

Seriously, anybody who makes one of those lame jokes these days seriously needs to get their butt kicked, verbally at least. But I'd kind of prefer to do it literally. An obtuse or fanatical denier can simply DERP! their way around words spoken or on a screen, but if you physically kick them in the ass they might actually take notice.

Note: The section in italics is meant in jest and not to be taken as a call for actual violence.

467 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:13:54am

re: #466 Dark_Falcon

Seriously, anybody who makes one of those lame jokes these days seriously needs to get their butt kicked, verbally at least. But I'd kind of prefer to do it literally. An obtuse or fanatical denier can simply DERP! their way around words spoken or on a screen, but if you physically kick them in the ass they might actually take notice.

Note: The section in italics is meant in jest and not to be taken as a call for actual violence.

Can I at least stun them with a phaser???
/

468 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:14:01am

re: #465 Obdicut

Well, that. What's confusing you?

I think Yackoff is the bomb. "I come to America, the firt thing I see is a billboard with a bottle of vodka and my name - 'America loves Smirnoff'! What a country!" That joke never gets old.

"I come to America, the firt thing I see is a billboard with a bottle of vodka and my name - 'America loves Smirnoff'! What a country!" That joke never gets old...see? Funny both times!

//

469 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:15:47am

re: #466 Dark_Falcon

Seriously, anybody who makes one of those lame jokes these days seriously needs to get their butt kicked, verbally at least. But I'd kind of prefer to do it literally. An obtuse or fanatical denier can simply DERP! their way around words spoken or on a screen, but if you physically kick them in the ass they might actually take notice.

Note: The section in italics is meant in jest and not to be taken as a call for actual violence.

There you go with your usual right-wing "just a joke" defense, as usual employing verbal violence in defense of far-right...

waitaminute

*explosion*

470 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:16:58am

re: #469 Sergey Romanov

There you go with your usual right-wing "just a joke" defense, as usual employing verbal violence in defense of far-right...

waitaminute

*explosion*

Hold this thermal det for me will ya?
I left something in my spaceship.
BRB
:P

471 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:17:30am

re: #465 Obdicut

Well, that. What's confusing you?

If you don't like to read about stupid celebrity quotes, go past the comment.

472 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:17:51am

re: #469 Sergey Romanov

There you go with your usual right-wing "just a joke" defense, as usual employing verbal violence in defense of far-right...

waitaminute

*explosion*

Great, now I've got to clean the exploded brain matter off the floor. Lucky thing I've got plenty of Pine-Sol. I'm gonna need it.

473 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:17:51am

re: #470 Varek Raith

Meh. When you learn to do it with words, call me./

474 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:18:50am

re: #466 Dark_Falcon

Note: The section in italics is meant in jest and not to be taken as a call for actual violence.

There, but for the grace of ganja, go I.

475 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:19:12am

re: #467 Varek Raith

Can I at least stun them with a phaser???
/

No, but you can Force Slap them. If you use the Dark Side it to force them to slap themselves while you scold them, no one will mind.

476 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:20:29am

re: #458 Varek Raith

I don't know man, some gfs are way scarier than a cop.
;)

Local news:

Woman arrested in slaying of boyfriend
[Link: www.indystar.com...]

Yanita Kittrell, 38, told police her boyfriend had passed out and was not breathing, according to an Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department news release.

Attempts to revive Motley were unsuccessful, and he was pronounced dead by emergency medical personnel.

Kittrell was asked several times what was wrong with Motley before she admitted to grabbing a rope and putting it around his neck, according to a police report. An argument began when Kittrell was on the phone and Motley began "cussing her out," the report said.

477 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:20:29am

re: #475 Dark_Falcon

Just mock them...it's far more painful.

478 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:21:44am

re: #473 Sergey Romanov

Meh. When you learn to do it with words, call me./

Hadou no kyuju, Kurohitsugi!

479 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:22:12am

re: #474 darthstar

There, but for the grace of ganja, go I.

I put in disclaimers so that "Dorkus" and his motley crew won't try to put my post with a caption saying "Dork_Falcon approves of violence against those who question LewdPig's AGW lie!1 BILLIONS WILL DIE!!1" So if you want to blame anyone for the disclaimer, blame the Stalkers.

480 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:24:31am

I hope they lock this woman up for a long time. WTF is wrong with people? (This has nothing to do with the OWS protesters)

Woman charged with pimping teen recruited at Occupy NH rally

MANCHESTER - A city woman is accused of pimping a 16-year-old girl she met in Victory Park during the Occupy NH demonstrations.

Justina Jensen, 23, of 341 Hanover St., is charged with felony prostitution. Police allege Jensen met a teen at the local protest, which is an offshoot of Occupy Wall Street, and used the Internet to arrange a first liaison for the girl with a man who turned out to be an undercover police officer.

Police said the teen's mother called them Thursday about noon to say her daughter was missing and that her photograph had been posted on a website advertising adult party entertainment.

Court documents show the mother told police she and a friend had used the website to negotiate a deal for the friend to pay for sex with the teen.

Investigators looked at the website and found the girl's photo posted there, along with pictures of three other women, in an advertisement offering men to “come and have fun with four beautiful ladies” in Manchester.

481 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:25:29am

By the way, was it fucking priceless seeing the big sad on Nolan Ryan's face last night or what? Great World Series, St. Louis.

And Texas, you don't get one of these. (That's my missus)

482 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:26:38am

re: #480 NJDhockeyfan

Happens a lot. Most of the teen runaways I worked with had been pimped out at some point or another.

483 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:26:41am

Year ago I used to frequent a bar that used Pine-Sol to clean up the mess from the night before. It would be around happy hour and the place smelled like Pine-Sol and vomit most of the the time. So now everytime I smell Pine-Sol I think of vomit.

'Morning.

484 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:26:48am

re: #481 darthstar

What is the ring?

485 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:28:11am

re: #484 Cannadian Club Akbar

What is the ring?

SF GIants, 2010 World Champions.

486 bratwurst  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:28:39am

re: #441 Obdicut

I don't get it. You don't like her humor, you're not a fan, so why'd you post the article?

Some people will post anything from any source as long as it somehow re-enforces their own point of view. The OWS debate here has demonstrated this fact many times.

487 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:28:41am

re: #481 darthstar

By the way, was it fucking priceless seeing the big sad on Nolan Ryan's face last night or what? Great World Series, St. Louis.

And Texas, you don't get one of these. (That's my missus)

I like Nolan Ryan. That said I was rooting against St Louis. I'm a Cubs fan, I had to. It was a great series to watch though.

488 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:29:06am

re: #478 Varek Raith

Geek.

/

489 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:30:10am

Time to wake up the household...bbl.

490 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:30:25am

re: #487 NJDhockeyfan

I like Nolan Ryan. That said I was rooting against St Louis. I'm a Cubs fan, I had to. It was a great series to watch though.

I remember when Robin Ventura rushed the mound and Nolan Ryan put him in a headlock and punched him about 3 times. Ah, memories.

491 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:30:38am

re: #489 darthstar

Time to wake up the household...bbl.

Okay, go grab the vuvuzela.

492 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:31:47am

re: #487 NJDhockeyfan

I like Nolan Ryan. That said I was rooting against St Louis. I'm a Cubs fan, I had to. It was a great series to watch though.

eh. Baseball? What's that?

We only care about football. LSU Football Season is one of the 4 seasons here in La., along with crawfish season, hurricane season, and Carnival season. The things that matter.

493 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:31:54am

Bad news out of Kabul.

494 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:32:02am

re: #482 Obdicut

Happens a lot. Most of the teen runaways I worked with had been pimped out at some point or another.

I know about that. This story doesn't say she was a runaway though. It seems like she was at a small protest and the woman took advantage of her. Thank goodness the police caught her before the worst happened.

495 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:34:23am

re: #491 Sergey Romanov

I finally found some Cain fans to send your pic to:

Nerds 4 Cain
[Link: www.nerds4cain.com...]

496 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:34:49am

Morning all.

497 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:35:20am

re: #494 NJDhockeyfan

Whether or not she's a runaway is really besides the point, dude.

498 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:37:11am

re: #497 Obdicut

Whether or not she's a runaway is really besides the point, dude.

You do know you were the one to bring up runaways right...

499 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:37:15am

re: #497 Obdicut

Whether or not she's a runaway is really besides the point, dude.

Huh?

500 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:38:18am

re: #495 RogueOne

I finally found some Cain fans to send your pic to:

Nerds 4 Cain
[Link: www.nerds4cain.com...]

Pfft. And what, exactly, makes them nerds?

501 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:38:48am

re: #500 Sergey Romanov

Pfft. And what, exactly, makes them nerds?

Are you questioning their nerd credentials?

502 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:39:30am

I think the best story to come out of this World Series is David Freese. He grew up in the St Louis area and now is the MVP of the WS in his hometown. That is awesome.

503 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:40:00am

re: #501 RogueOne

Are you questioning their nerd credentials?

Probably fakes.

504 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:41:03am

re: #500 Sergey Romanov

Pfft. And what, exactly, makes them nerds?

Well, Cain did quote a pokemon theme song....

505 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:42:22am

We were talking about this the other day:

Halloween costume campaign spawns meme, fuels race debate
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

[Link: s3.amazonaws.com...]

506 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:42:55am

re: #502 NJDhockeyfan

I think the best story to come out of this World Series is David Freese. He grew up in the St Louis area and now is the MVP of the WS in his hometown. That is awesome.

I'm betting his feet still haven't touched the ground.

507 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:43:07am

re: #487 NJDhockeyfan

I like Nolan Ryan. That said I was rooting against St Louis. I'm a Cubs fan, I had to. It was a great series to watch though.

Ditto. I'm a Chicago northsider, always have been. No True Cubs Fan will root for the Cardinals.

508 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:44:00am

re: #504 Varek Raith

when?

509 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:45:21am

re: #505 RogueOne

An even better one. We're a Culture, Not a Costume: Kurt Cobain
[Link: knowyourmeme.com...]

510 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:46:02am

re: #507 Dark_Falcon

Ditto. I'm a Chicago northsider, always have been. No True Cubs Fan will root for the Cardinals.

Cubs fans just get sloppy drunk and mutter the phrase "maybe next year."
///

511 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:46:31am

re: #508 Sergey Romanov

when?

[Link: www.mediaite.com...]

512 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:46:51am

I was amazed that my phone hadn't beeped with a single work email in over 12 hours...

Last email I didn't read? 'Your exchange inbox is full, please delete..' >_<

513 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:47:04am

re: #509 RogueOne

An even better one. We're a Culture, Not a Costume: Kurt Cobain
[Link: knowyourmeme.com...]

That costume needs a shotgun as an accessory. Just sayin'.

514 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:48:13am

re: #510 Cannadian Club Akbar

Cubs fans just get sloppy drunk and mutter the phrase "maybe next year."
///

Cubs fans never say maybe.

515 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:48:59am

re: #498 McSpiff

You do know you were the one to bring up runaways right...

It wasn't the point then, either.

516 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:49:43am

Indian Metallica fans riot in New Delhi after heavy metal concert canceled

NEW DELHI Thousands of disappointed fans have broken chairs and torn posters after organizers canceled a Metallica concert on the outskirts of the Indian capital.

The Press Trust of India news agency says police arrested four people from the company that had organized the concert on charges of cheating people who had waited for hours for the scheduled Friday performance by the American heavy metal band.

Organizers said the concert was called off due to technical difficulties.

Bummer for those fans.

517 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:50:15am

re: #515 Obdicut

It wasn't the point then, either.

Chastise yourself then? Not sure what else to tell you.

518 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:50:21am

re: #499 NJDhockeyfan

Huh?

Young women--and men-- are victimized very frequently by people pimping them out. These can be relatives, boyfriends, friends, or flat-out pimps. It is a constant problem.

What is unclear about what I'm saying?

519 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:50:31am

re: #491 Sergey Romanov

Okay, go grab the vuvuzela.

I am the vuvuzela.

520 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:51:16am

re: #511 Varek Raith

Maybe so, but not because of any nerdiness.

[Link: books.google.com...]

521 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:51:21am

re: #517 McSpiff

Chastise yourself then? Not sure what else to tell you.

What on earth are you talking about?

522 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:51:51am

re: #513 Cannadian Club Akbar

There are some good ones out there:
Image: notokay-ghostbusters.jpg

523 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:52:15am

re: #520 Sergey Romanov

Maybe so, but not of any nerdiness.

[Link: books.google.com...]

Whoa. No one said there would be reading.

524 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:53:00am

Last one: Tom Cruise
[Link: s3.amazonaws.com...]

525 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:53:07am

re: #521 Obdicut

What on earth are you talking about?

If you can't hold the peanut-butter, you're never going to change the tire.

526 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:54:13am

re: #521 Obdicut

What on earth are you talking about?

Yawn.

527 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:54:28am

re: #525 darthstar

If you can't hold the peanut-butter, you're never going to change the tire.

Well sure, it all makes sense when you put it that way.

528 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:54:39am

So does this mean if I go to a Tea Party gathering and invite some people there to my house and then proceed to bludgeon them to death it's the Tea Party's fault?

//

529 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:54:50am

re: #524 RogueOne

Last one: Tom Cruise
[Link: s3.amazonaws.com...]

Did you see the story about the scientologist going through the trash at the homes of the guys from South Park?

530 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:55:47am

re: #529 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did you see the story about the scientologist going through the trash at the homes of the guys from South Park?

What was he expecting to find?

531 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:55:48am

re: #528 Gus 802

So does this mean if I go to a Tea Party gathering and invite some people there to my house and then proceed to bludgeon them to death it's the Tea Party's fault?

//

Are you wearing a tri-cornered hat and bludgeon them with the complete works of Thomas Paine as Misunderstood by Glenn Beck?

532 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:55:55am

re: #528 Gus 802

So does this mean if I go to a Tea Party gathering and invite some people there to my house and then proceed to bludgeon them to death it's the Tea Party's fault?

//

Yes.

533 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:56:47am

re: #527 Obdicut

Well sure, it all makes sense when you put it that way.

I think I'm getting inspired by the bad lip reading videos. Looking forward to making up a few of these kinds of lines in management meetings.

534 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:56:47am

re: #529 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did you see the story about the scientologist going through the trash at the homes of the guys from South Park?

Yes but I don't remember where. Huffington maybe?

535 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:58:19am

I blame Dick Cavett.

536 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:58:32am

Occupy Madison loses permit

City officials temporarily denied Occupy Madison a new street use permit Wednesday after protesters violated public health and safety conditions and failed to follow the correct processes to renew or amend a permit.

The permit, which expired Wednesday at noon, required Occupy Madison protesters to relocate from their current space at 30 West Mifflin Street, also called 30 on the Square.

A neighboring hotel's staff alleged voiced concerns about having to recently escort hotel employees to and from bus stops late at night due to inappropriate behavior, such as public masturbation, from street protesters.

Is there a permit for masturbating in public?

537 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:58:49am

re: #530 NJDhockeyfan

What was he expecting to find?

re: #534 RogueOne

Yes but I don't remember where. Huffington maybe?

"Phone records. Bank records. Personal letters that expose some kind of vulnerability," Rathbun told the Voice. "They'll read stuff into the kind of alcohol you're drinking and how much. Prescriptions. They'll figure out your diet. They can find out a lot about you through your trash."
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Freaks.

538 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:59:20am

re: #536 NJDhockeyfan

Occupy Madison loses permit

Is there a permit for masturbating in public?

Drum circles get pretty crazy

539 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:59:20am

Derp.

540 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:00:09am

re: #536 NJDhockeyfan

Occupy Madison loses permit

Is there a permit for masturbating in public?

Maybe not, but it's not like a hotel's stuff always tell the truth about a group they may see as a nuisance.

541 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:00:29am

13 Americans Said to Be Among Killed in Kabul Attack

KABUL, Afghanistan — At least 13 American soldiers were among more than 20 people killed when a Taliban suicide car bomber attacked an armored NATO shuttle bus in Kabul on Saturday, a Western military official confirmed...

542 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:01:13am

re: #539 Varek Raith

Derp.

543 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:02:20am

re: #540 Sergey Romanov

Maybe not, but it's not like a hotel's stuff always tell the truth about a group they may see as a nuisance.

I hope nobody posts picture of it. The guy shitting on a police car was weird enough for me.

544 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:02:30am

Image: 999x.jpg

A wounded U.S. soldier is carried away from the site of a suicide attack in Kabul October 29, 2011. At least four people were killed when a suicide car bomber attacked a convoy of foreign soldiers in the Afghan capital, Kabul, on Saturday, officials said, with an unspecified number of NATO-led troops among other casualties.

545 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:05:14am

Image: 999x.jpg

Foreign troops carry a casualty from the site of a suicide attack in Kabul October 29, 2011. At least four people were killed when a suicide car bomber attacked a convoy of foreign soldiers in the Afghan capital, Kabul, on Saturday, officials said, with an unspecified number of NATO-led troops among other casualties.

546 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:07:21am

re: #543 NJDhockeyfan

I hope nobody posts picture of it. The guy shitting on a police car was weird enough for me.

There was a picture of that?

547 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:07:37am

re: #536 NJDhockeyfan

Occupy Madison loses permit

Is there a permit for masturbating in public?

Yes. If you do it without a permit the park won't ever let you come back. Fair enough, I guess. Live and learn.

548 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:08:46am

re: #538 McSpiff

Drum circles get pretty crazy

I've been in a lot of drum circles...I've never seen anyone start masturbating. This sounds like bullshit to me. Probably just some girl gyrating to the rhythm that got a passing teabagger turned on so he called the police.

549 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:09:10am

re: #537 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #534 RogueOne

"Phone records. Bank records. Personal letters that expose some kind of vulnerability," Rathbun told the Voice. "They'll read stuff into the kind of alcohol you're drinking and how much. Prescriptions. They'll figure out your diet. They can find out a lot about you through your trash."
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Freaks.

They really don't like being criticized, and Trey Parker has taken them to the woodshed repeatedly. They're likely still pissed from the "Return of Chef" episode where they got compared to the (fictional) child-molesting "Super Adventure Club".

550 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:09:19am

Centennial Correctional Facility Inmates Upgrade Their Prison Cells With High-Tech Gear
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Each cell got a high-tech kiosk installed that includes a computer with a 20-inch monitor, fast processor, built-in camera, and headset as well as 22 cable television stations, 7News reports.

I don't give a fuck whose money it is. This is bullshit.

551 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:10:09am

Image: 10196067-standard.jpg

Essex County Sheriff Armando Fontoura supports the mother of Staff Sgt. Jorge Oliveira, as she mourns over her son's casket. In the background is Jorge's father Manuel, his sister, Jessica, and brother Marco. Sgt.Oliveira was buried Friday in Holy Cross Cemetery in North Arlington. (Robert Sciarrino/The Star-Ledger)

From: Di Ionno: Newark kid who 'had it all' is honored by city, state and country at funeral for fallen National Guardsman

552 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:10:52am

re: #546 Sergey Romanov

There was a picture of that?

The shitter? Yup.

Image: article-2046586-0E481DB700000578-865_634x366.jpg

553 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:11:21am

re: #548 darthstar

I've been in a lot of drum circles...I've never seen anyone start masturbating. This sounds like bullshit to me. Probably just some girl gyrating to the rhythm that got a passing teabagger turned on so he called the police.

You're right, any problems at OWS must be caused by those insidious teabaggers!

554 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:11:30am

re: #550 Cannadian Club Akbar

Centennial Correctional Facility Inmates Upgrade Their Prison Cells With High-Tech Gear
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Each cell got a high-tech kiosk installed that includes a computer with a 20-inch monitor, fast processor, built-in camera, and headset as well as 22 cable television stations, 7News reports.

I don't give a fuck whose money it is. This is bullshit.

I approve.

555 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:11:47am

re: #540 Sergey Romanov

Maybe not, but it's not like a hotel's stuff always tell the truth about a group they may see as a nuisance.

Even so, there probably some assholes who have done something seriously wrong, and made some insulting and lewd remark towards female staff. I'd say that the staff likely had reasons to be concerned.

556 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:12:00am

re: #554 Gus 802

I approve.

Approve of what?

557 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:13:26am

re: #544 Gus 802

Image: 999x.jpg

A wounded U.S. soldier is carried away from the site of a suicide attack in Kabul October 29, 2011. At least four people were killed when a suicide car bomber attacked a convoy of foreign soldiers in the Afghan capital, Kabul, on Saturday, officials said, with an unspecified number of NATO-led troops among other casualties.

Is that from the latest Taliban attack? Last I heard they killed 13 of our bravest.

Fuckers.

558 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:13:41am

re: #553 McSpiff

You're right, any problems at OWS must be caused by those insidious teabaggers!

Are you skeptical of OWS, btw? You've been missing throughout the debates that I've seen.

559 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:13:56am

re: #556 Cannadian Club Akbar

Approve of what?

Of them being allowed to have that. It's a modern world. I doubt we're getting the complete picture here. Anyone that thinks even after having those devices that being in a prison like that is a cake walk has it all wrong.

In any event. They have it so there's nothing you can do about it. Can't stop progress like they say.

560 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:14:03am

re: #551 Gus 802

Image: 10196067-standard.jpg

Essex County Sheriff Armando Fontoura supports the mother of Staff Sgt. Jorge Oliveira, as she mourns over her son's casket. In the background is Jorge's father Manuel, his sister, Jessica, and brother Marco. Sgt.Oliveira was buried Friday in Holy Cross Cemetery in North Arlington. (Robert Sciarrino/The Star-Ledger)

From: Di Ionno: Newark kid who 'had it all' is honored by city, state and country at funeral for fallen National Guardsman

War's price is high, that should never be forgotten.

561 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:15:05am

re: #548 darthstar

I've been in a lot of drum circles...I've never seen anyone start masturbating. This sounds like bullshit to me. Probably just some girl gyrating to the rhythm that got a passing teabagger turned on so he called the police.

Van Driessen: "...And that's important, even today, as we wrestle with our manhood."
Butthead: "Beavis wrestles with his manhood"
Beavis: "Yeah, I usually win."

Bang the drum slowly, Dumbass:
[Link: bubblare.se...]

562 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:17:03am

re: #559 Gus 802

Of them being allowed to have that. It's a modern world. I doubt we're getting the complete picture here. Anyone that thinks even after having those devices that being in a prison like that is a cake walk has it all wrong.

In any event. They have it so there's nothing you can do about it. Can't stop progress like they say.

I feel ya. Only 22 channels of cable? Stone ages.

563 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:17:09am

Transspecies love!

Beagle with kittens.

You can't really tell they are kittens in that photo, but they sure aren't Beagles.

564 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:17:47am

Update on the Portland Franchise of OWS....
KGW Airs Graphic Counting ‘Stinky People’ and ‘Angry People’ at Occupy Portland
Almost twice as angry as they are stinky. Interesting statistic.

565 bratwurst  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:18:30am

re: #561 RogueOne

You have probably opined about it already, but how did you rate the return? I thought it was definitely up to snuff, especially the first "story" and watching the "Addicted to Porn" show.

566 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:18:47am

re: #559 Gus 802

Of them being allowed to have that. It's a modern world. I doubt we're getting the complete picture here. Anyone that thinks even after having those devices that being in a prison like that is a cake walk has it all wrong.

In any event. They have it so there's nothing you can do about it. Can't stop progress like they say.

It's a prison, so those things can simply be confiscated. I might, however, let them keep the gear, with an "addition". This would be spyware, to allow the prison to have central monitoring of anything done with said computers, and to allow the prison to access any cell's camera at any time. I would also introduce a rule forbidding the cameras from being covered at any time. Subject to those controls, such systems might actually be a good thing. I'd rather a prison watch "Jersey Shore" than focus on his grudges and escape plan.

567 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:19:15am

re: #562 Cannadian Club Akbar

I feel ya. Only 22 channels of cable? Stone ages.

Helps cut down on trouble. They probably put a curfew on it and I bet most of those are religious stations.

568 bratwurst  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:19:19am

re: #564 Killgore Trout

Update on the Portland Franchise of OWS...
KGW Airs Graphic Counting ‘Stinky People’ and ‘Angry People’ at Occupy Portland
Almost twice as angry as they are stinky. Interesting statistic.

Very scientific!

569 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:20:07am

re: #564 Killgore Trout

Update on the Portland Franchise of OWS...
KGW Airs Graphic Counting ‘Stinky People’ and ‘Angry People’ at Occupy Portland
Almost twice as angry as they are stinky. Interesting statistic.

Uh-oh. Somebody at that station is gonna get fired.

570 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:20:19am

Another outrageous outrage morning I guess.

571 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:20:42am

re: #563 wrenchwench

Transspecies love!

Beagle with kittens.

You can't really tell they are kittens in that photo, but they sure aren't Beagles.

Thank you.

572 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:21:06am

re: #564 Killgore Trout

Update on the Portland Franchise of OWS...
KGW Airs Graphic Counting ‘Stinky People’ and ‘Angry People’ at Occupy Portland
Almost twice as angry as they are stinky. Interesting statistic.

I hope they aren't threatening anyone like this guy did.

A protester, angered by the presence of a news crew inside Zuccotti Park Friday morning, threatened to stab Fox 5 News reporter John Huddy. Police arrested the protester.

What has been an otherwise violence-free period during his six weeks covering the Occupy Wall Street movement, took a turn for John Huddy. He explained what happened during Good Day New York.

"This is somebody I've come across several times for the last few days," Huddy said. "He threatened to stab me in the throat with a pen. He ripped the mic out of my hand."

"I have a meeting with Bloomberg," said the incoherent protester.

573 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:21:52am

re: #565 bratwurst

You have probably opined about it already, but how did you rate the return? I thought it was definitely up to snuff, especially the first "story" and watching the "Addicted to Porn" show.

I thought it was really good, especially for the first episode after so long. I was a little worried but I thought it was a real strong start especially considering how long its been since they've done one.

574 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:22:27am

re: #564 Killgore Trout

Update on the Portland Franchise of OWS...
KGW Airs Graphic Counting ‘Stinky People’ and ‘Angry People’ at Occupy Portland
Almost twice as angry as they are stinky. Interesting statistic.

I can't believe they actually used that graphic, hilarious.

575 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:23:39am

Yes. Because right wingers and moderates never smell. In fact right wingers never take shits nor pee. Neither do they have to use antiperspirant. They're also know for their keen fashion sense.

576 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:23:49am

re: #572 NJDhockeyfan

Nice that the reporter says that the six weeks he's been there were violence-free.

"I don't think this person represents the whole," Huddy said. "One of the media representatives asked me not to categorize this one person as representative of the whole group. Most of the folks I've dealt with have been accomodating. There is an element here that we've seen that has caused problems. Overall, it has been peaceful in the park."

Won't stop those who want to capitalize on the incident, of course.

577 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:24:00am

re: #569 reine.de.tout

Uh-oh. Somebody at that station is gonna get fired.

Yeah, some graphic guy is going to unemployed. He can go join the protests now.

578 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:24:07am

This is getting fucking stupid.

579 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:24:38am

re: #572 NJDhockeyfan

I hope they aren't threatening anyone like this guy did.

That backs up the more angry than stinky statistic.

580 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:25:08am

re: #569 reine.de.tout

Uh-oh. Somebody at that station is gonna get fired.

Or recruited by Fox...there's talent out there!

581 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:25:09am

re: #579 Killgore Trout

That backs up the more angry than stinky statistic.

Angry? Oh, he's probably an atheist then.

582 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:25:33am

re: #578 Gus 802

This is getting fucking stupid.

It's a convenient deflection from having the difficult discussion of the inequalities of our system.

583 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:25:38am

Let's just think of more bigoted comments. Then call ourselves "anti-idiotarians."

584 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:25:53am

re: #563 wrenchwench

Transspecies love!

Beagle with kittens.

You can't really tell they are kittens in that photo, but they sure aren't Beagles.

I wonder if this will mean less aloof cats when they grow up?

585 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:25:55am

re: #580 darthstar

Or recruited by Fox...there's talent out there!

Is he a blond chick?

586 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:26:57am

re: #577 Killgore Trout

Yeah, some graphic guy is going to unemployed. He can go join the protests now.

Some graphic guy probably made it as a joke, then someone said "Let's air it." and it became a dare...just one or two seconds...see if we can get away with it...fuck him if he gets fired.

587 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:27:18am

re: #583 Gus 802

Let's just think of more bigoted comments. Then call ourselves "anti-idiotarians."

Nobody is saying anything bigoted.

588 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:27:44am

re: #584 Dark_Falcon

I wonder if this will mean less aloof cats when they grow up?

Probably. My two cats totally lack the "aloofness" gene, which makes me think it's not a gene, but how they're raised.

589 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:28:09am

re: #582 Varek Raith

It's a convenient deflection from having the difficult discussion of the inequalities of our system.

Obviously we are observing a keen analysis of what is taking place here. Generalize about "lefties" and "hippies". Well at least certain people stopped using the phrase "religion of peace" or "ROP" the way they always used to do. In any case we can substitute this for a degree from Harvard in advanced anthropological studies.

590 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:28:24am

re: #587 Dark_Falcon

Nobody is saying anything bigoted.

Right. Uh huh.

591 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:29:35am

re: #589 Gus 802

I don't have to like it, but as long as I rail about "teabaggers", how can I complain?

592 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:29:53am

I'm just asking questions!

It's only links!

I'm concerned!

593 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:30:41am

re: #572 NJDhockeyfan

5 Fox News reporters always get "assaulted" at liberal rallies. It's like the Blue Canyon Road job for TV newscasters in Sacramento (it's right at the snow line around 5,000 feet and only an hour or so from the studios, so they do their Sierra storm reporting there). "Whose turn is it today? Sally? Okay, keep it real. Just say some stinky bitch pushed you at OWS."

594 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:31:24am

re: #592 Gus 802

I'm just asking questions!

It's only links!

I'm concerned!

Gus, it's still morning, so you have not been drinking and you've got energy now. Could you please explain what is bothering you, in more than 30 words please?

595 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:32:04am

All tea partiers are fascists who hate this country.

596 albusteve  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:32:09am

re: #582 Varek Raith

It's a convenient deflection from having the difficult discussion of the inequalities of our system.

sort of like the endless miles of anti GOP, anti conservative, anti people posts that drone on forever?

597 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:32:57am

re: #591 Sergey Romanov

I don't have to like it, but as long as I rail about "teabaggers", how can I complain?

It's a bad business model. First we chase off the right wingers from LGF. Now we're going to chase off the left wingers. In the end nobody's going to want to register at LGF. This is one of the reasons we hardly have and new registrants. Right wingers certainly won't register. Lefties will come in here and read this and roll their eyes and leave.

598 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:33:18am

re: #596 albusteve

sort of like the endless miles of anti GOP, anti conservative, anti people posts that drone on forever?

Hate to break it to ya, but the GOP is a major cause of this. They are rightfully called out on it.

599 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:34:02am

re: #579 Killgore Trout

That backs up the more angry than stinky statistic.

I wonder what the statistics are on the number of neo-nazis at the protests.

600 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:34:19am

re: #595 Varek Raith

All tea partiers are fascists who hate this country.

See, I can paint just as broadly.
;)

601 albusteve  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:34:41am

re: #598 Varek Raith

Hate to break it to ya, but the GOP is a major cause of this. They are rightfully called out on it.

that's not the point...it's the idea that it gets clogged up with unreadable garbage....tons of it

602 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:35:26am

re: #599 NJDhockeyfan

I wonder what the statistics on the number of neo-nazis at the protests.

[Video]

That guy showed up at Tea Parties with a gun too.
He spoke at one as well.

603 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:35:51am

re: #591 Sergey Romanov

I don't have to like it, but as long as I rail about "teabaggers", how can I complain?

The big irony here is that the media still takes the teabaggers seriously, while they continue to dismiss the nurses, teachers, different unions, IT geeks, students, and assorted other professionals (as well as the unemployed protesters) as dirty hippies.

604 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:36:00am

re: #601 albusteve

that's not the point...it's the idea that it gets clogged up with unreadable garbage...tons of it

Ok, I see your point now.

605 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:37:12am

re: #602 Varek Raith

That guy showed up at Tea Parties with a gun too.
He spoke at one as well.

Total kook.

606 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:37:47am

re: #600 Varek Raith

See, I can paint just as broadly.
;)

You're a regualr Michaefuckingangelo.

607 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:37:59am

re: #605 NJDhockeyfan

Total kook.

Yeah, one of those types.
The moronic convergence where the DERP from all sides merge into one.

608 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:38:32am

re: #606 darthstar

You're a regualr Michaefuckingangelo.

Yeah, felt like trolling a bit.
I feel better now.

609 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:38:52am

re: #607 Varek Raith

Yeah, one of those types.
The moronic convergence where the DERP from all sides merge into one.

When David Duke gets your support, you know the crazies are coming.

610 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:39:16am

re: #599 NJDhockeyfan

Dude, you realize you're posting videos actually made by a right-wing militia dude, right?

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

And a Paulite?

611 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:40:06am

re: #608 Varek Raith

Yeah, felt like trolling a bit.
I feel better now.

I'm going to tell you something similar to what I told Obdicut earlier. When you are eating a cosmic carrot, it's the bones in the juice that matter.

612 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:40:08am

re: #607 Varek Raith

Yeah, one of those types.
The moronic convergence where the DERP from all sides merge into one.

A Perfect Circle.

613 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:40:42am

re: #594 Dark_Falcon

Gus, it's still morning, so you have not been drinking and you've got energy now. Could you please explain what is bothering you, in more than 30 words please?

Go away.

614 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:40:52am

re: #610 Obdicut

Dude, you realize you're posting videos actually made by a right-wing militia dude, right?

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

And a Paulite?

Yes. This guy is a neo-nazi scumbag. I hate neo-nazis.

615 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:41:03am

re: #597 Gus 802

It's a bad business model. First we chase off the right wingers from LGF. Now we're going to chase off the left wingers. In the end nobody's going to want to register at LGF. This is one of the reasons we hardly have and new registrants. Right wingers certainly won't register. Lefties will come in here and read this and roll their eyes and leave.

I get the "practical" consequences, I just don't see them as a matter of principle. Besides, you've been pushing back with mirror attacks, so there is balance.

616 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:41:09am

re: #599 NJDhockeyfan

I wonder what the statistics are on the number of neo-nazis at the protests.

[Video]

Those guys are the same ones who brought guns to an Obama rally in Phoenix in 2009. They (I'm pretty sure) also planted "when it's OK to shoot a cop" flyers at the Occupy Phoenix protest. They are white supremacists. They do not support OWS, but are always on the lookout for recruits to their own cause. That video was made by an Oathkeeper who claims to be a good friend of Stewart Rhodes.

617 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:41:23am

I heard my dogs in the other room playing with their toy ambulance. I need to get that on video, it cracks me up.

618 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:41:56am

re: #614 NJDhockeyfan

Yes. This guy is a neo-nazi scumbag. I hate neo-nazis.

Okay. If you hate them, maybe not giving him hits on his youtube videos would be a good idea, eh? Not spreading his propaganda around?

619 jaunte  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:42:17am

The really stinky people:

In recent months, this small, isolated country has received national attention, with visits by U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer and activist Erin Brockovich.

Earlier this year, dozens of residents, including teachers and schoolchildren, were sickened by noxious odors emanating from a four-story-high mesa of hazardous waste operated by Western Environmental Inc., a Utah-based soil recycling company that leases land from the Cabazon Band of Mission Indians.

The devil’s palette of stenches was overwhelming, residents say, shifting from gas fumes to the smell of burnt oil to ruptured sewer pipes. The symptoms of “Toxico Mecca,” as it became known locally, included nausea, vomiting, dizziness and difficulty breathing.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

620 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:43:12am

Also, "anti-idiotarian" is sooo 2005. That's a long been a tainted term, fit for various rabid canines. So not a loss.

621 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:43:34am

re: #618 Obdicut

Okay. If you hate them, maybe not giving him hits on his youtube videos would be a good idea, eh? Not spreading his propaganda around?

With all the videos and links to websites you don't like or agree with posted on here all the time, why are you all of a sudden concerned about it?

622 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:43:59am

re: #620 Sergey Romanov

Also, "anti-idiotarian" is sooo 2005. That's a long been a tainted term, fit for various rabid canines. So not a loss.

Can we still "fact-check your ass"?

623 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:44:41am

re: #622 wrenchwench

Can we still "fact-check your ass"?

Hopefully. But differing perspectives are needed for that. So we can fact-check our ass too.

624 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:44:48am

re: #622 wrenchwench

Can we still "fact-check your ass"?

We do it best.

625 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:45:00am

re: #621 NJDhockeyfan

With all the videos and links to websites you don't like or agree with posted on here all the time, why are you all of a sudden concerned about it?

Why are you not?

626 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:45:12am

Creepy.

627 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:45:55am

re: #625 wrenchwench

Why are you not?

I don't see a reason to be. Exposes the assholes.

628 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:47:41am

re: #627 NJDhockeyfan

I don't see a reason to be. Exposes the assholes.

Don't blame me for the stains on the sheets...the gerbils in my dreams did it.

629 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:48:02am

re: #620 Sergey Romanov

The main problem I have is that I was never against the right of Tea Partiers to convene, to protest, to demonstrate, to do whatever. I never blamed them for the crazies on their fringes. What I do hold against the Tea Party people was their actual complaints-- that taxes are too high, that government spending is too high, that socialism is running rampant, etc. etc. They demonstrated this not only through their actual speeches but their political organizing, the candidates that they supported.

The actual complaints of OWS have the benefit of being based in reality, for the most part. The one issue where I found them lacking-- the end the fed nonsense-- I've seen pushback and debate internally about.

The comparison between the two groups fails, for me, because one is based on protests against something fictional, and the other is based on protests against something real.

This is entirely beside any question of whether they'll 'achieve' anything. On that score, given the large number of ideological non-voters, I still feel doubtful.

630 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:48:25am

re: #627 NJDhockeyfan

I don't see a reason to be. Exposes the assholes.

They've already been exposed. You're giving them more exposure. You didn't post it with a remark critical of the ones who made or appeared in the video, you posted it with a remark that looks critical of OWS:

I wonder what the statistics are on the number of neo-nazis at the protests.

Then you CYA with critical remarks of the makers later. Or that's how it looks to me.

631 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:48:33am

re: #628 darthstar

Don't blame me for the stains on the sheets...the gerbils in my dreams did it.

Keep them away from Richard Geer!

632 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:49:00am

re: #630 wrenchwench

They've already been exposed. You're giving them more exposure. You didn't post it with a remark critical of the ones who made or appeared in the video, you posted it with a remark that looks critical of OWS:

Then you CYA with critical remarks of the makers later. Or that's how it looks to me.

So?

633 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:49:23am

re: #631 NJDhockeyfan

Keep them away from Richard Geer!

It's Gere, and he's a Buddhist, not a buttist.

634 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:49:31am

re: #621 NJDhockeyfan

With all the videos and links to websites you don't like or agree with posted on here all the time, why are you all of a sudden concerned about it?

Not that many people post videos and websites from neo-nazis, and when they do, I tend to call them out on it. Since you hate the guy, I'm pointing out that distributing his propaganda-- uncritically-- is kind of counterproductive.

635 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:50:13am

Our annual Halloween party is tonight. Dragon_Lady has cleverly made cupcakes, with red vines candy to make them into fully decorated spiders.

Image: Cupcakespiders.JPG

636 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:50:31am

re: #634 Obdicut

Not that many people post videos and websites from neo-nazis, and when they do, I tend to call them out on it. Since you hate the guy, I'm pointing out that distributing his propaganda-- uncritically-- is kind of counterproductive.

Sigh...ok.

I gotta run. Have a safe day today everyone!

637 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:50:52am

re: #635 Rightwingconspirator

Falls into the 'too good to eat' category, I think.

638 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:51:01am

re: #632 NJDhockeyfan

So?

So your criticism of Obdicut in #621 looks disingenuous at best, or really stupid, or worse.

639 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:51:02am

re: #635 Rightwingconspirator

Our annual Halloween party is tonight. Dragon_Lady has cleverly made cupcakes, with red vines candy to make them into fully decorated spiders.

Image: Cupcakespiders.JPG

You all better share with LGF.
:)

640 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:52:20am

re: #639 Varek Raith

You all better share with LGF.
:)

Come on in. Party starts at sunset. :-)>

641 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:53:40am

Okay...so I blew off one of my wife's good friends' picnic today so I could do some work around the house...that means I have to get out of bed.

642 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:54:38am

re: #610 Obdicut

Dude, you realize you're posting videos actually made by a right-wing militia dude, right?

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

And a Paulite?

I think it's pretty clear from the video that it was filmed by an oathkeeper. They pretend to not know each other but I find that doubtful.

643 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:55:04am

re: #629 Obdicut

My point was about language as well as "vibe", if you will, as was, I assume, Gus's, since he mentioned the "ROP" catchphrase. If somebody wants to diss "lefties" and "hippies" and even "moonbats" as a way to vent frustration, why not? Yeah, there are limits, and no, I can't define where they pass (though I would say they may be drawn when we stop talking about political groups, so "ROP" is off-base). My point was not to draw full equivalences between TP and OWS, and I myself have criticized such equivalences in the past.

644 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:55:34am

re: #639 Varek Raith

You all better share with LGF.
:)

That was somehow ... menacing./

645 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:57:49am
646 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:58:02am

re: #558 Sergey Romanov

Are you skeptical of OWS, btw? You've been missing throughout the debates that I've seen.

Yes and no. I'm horribly ignorant about the whole thing. I've done a fair amount of research into the whole financial collapse. Its complicated. Removing the firewall between investment banking and deposit holding institutions was insane. The amount of leveraging was beyond insane. AIG's London office was issuing billions of dollars worth of CDSs (essentially insurance) to anyone without needing to hold any capital themselves, assuming they'd never need to pay out in a million years. Things were deregulated or under-regulated to such a degree that essentially certain key players were able to booby trap the system. The credit rating agencies became an absolute joke.

Wallstreet did things that even if they were legal, were certainly unethical. The average American debt holder (read: everyone) became just another commodity.

On the other hand, turning debt into just another commodity, with an associate risk and ways to migrate that risk depending on your portfolio, etc allows in theory for more access to capital for more people wanting it. Of course, it also allows for the high finance version of torching a house for the insurance money. Except you don't need to live in the house or even own it. I think society via the government is well within its rights to say that you shouldn't be allowed to bet on someone defaulting on their mortgage. But there is pros and cons to restricting that.

Like I said, its complicated and people were allowed to do some very shady things. The bailout was needed but the lack of changes to regulation, or people really being held to account is horrible. At the same time, how does the government punish someone for committing an act that is only clearly wrong in hindsight? How do we avoid ex post facto laws? If the whole system is rotten, how do we fix it?

Don't even get me started on things like High Frequency trading.

So yeah, if OWS was outside Moody's and S&P I'd be right behind them. Or if they were protesting some of the institutionalized-perks to being an investment bank. The markets they have access to, the data networks, etc.

But I haven't seen that from OWS, at all. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places. But the online commentary at places like slashdot and reddit, and seen at Occupy Ottawa has ranged from:

0) Lacking a plan - If Obama showed up tomorrow, and said "you win", what would change? Get rid of the Fed? Free university? Nationalized banks?

1) Total naivety - "We need to get rid of the banks! everyone just use credit unions!"

2) Missing the point - Occupy Ottawa seems mostly concerned with student loans, the trans-canada pipeline and hating the Tories (read: hating the GOP). But don't point that out because its a bi-partisan movement and conservatives are totally welcome. Mmmhmmm.

3) Spooky calls for class warfare. The whole 1% thing has been taken way too far in the young, left wing groups I interact with. You don't know the 1%. They don't live in the same areas you do, they don't work with you, their kids go to seperate schools, they fly on private jets, its fine to hate them. Really, to do what they do, actively try to hurt and destroy the 99%, the 1% need to be sociopaths. + end the fed + anti-semitism occasionally.

From what I've read here, that's the fringe. And honestly, I didn't see that at occupy Ottawa. But just reading stuff like that on reddit and people I went to school with makes me extremely wary to say I support OWS.

Plus the fact that the OWS supporters I know in Canada also tend to be anti-military, Gadaffi apologists. That's a turn off too, but probably more personal.

Sorry for the rant... But thats why I stay out ;-)

647 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:58:25am

Alrighty. There are some pork shoulders who have a date at the Occupy The Smoker rally. I'd better go pick them up. See ya'll this afternoon.

648 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:59:38am

re: #564 Killgore Trout

Update on the Portland Franchise of OWS...
KGW Airs Graphic Counting ‘Stinky People’ and ‘Angry People’ at Occupy Portland
Almost twice as angry as they are stinky. Interesting statistic.

I call bullshit on the numbers. Ratings bait is what stinks this time, IMO. "Point and laugh" instead of points of real interest.

649 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:00:06am

re: #643 Sergey Romanov

People dissing 'hippies' just make me laugh, since most hippies I know are quite well-off dudes living in nice places in the Haight-Ashbury they bought for a song back in the '60s.

650 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:00:15am

re: #479 Dark_Falcon

I put in disclaimers so that "Dorkus" and his motley crew won't try to put my post with a caption saying "Dork_Falcon approves of violence against those who question LewdPig's AGW lie!1 BILLIONS WILL DIE!!1" So if you want to blame anyone for the disclaimer, blame the Stalkers.

A sadly realistic, although somewhat pointless, precaution. (Last I checked in on them they had a thread dedicated to claiming Freetoken had called for a one world government. This was based on his statement that he thought some problem or other could only be solved through 'something no one wants, a world government'. I guess they think Free is nobody.)

651 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:01:41am

re: #646 McSpiff

Thanks for the perspective!

652 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:02:21am

re: #649 Obdicut

People dissing 'hippies' just make me laugh, since most hippies I know are quite well-off dudes living in nice places in the Haight-Ashbury they bought for a song back in the '60s.

Hey, exactly ;)

653 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:02:49am

re: #575 Gus 802

Yes. Because right wingers and moderates never smell. In fact right wingers never take shits nor pee. Neither do they have to use antiperspirant. They're also know for their keen fashion sense.

All I know is that on my FB page, I keep getting ads for products that will remove skin tags, warts and moles.

654 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:03:03am

re: #646 McSpiff

Very well said.

655 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:03:12am

re: #528 Gus 802

So does this mean if I go to a Tea Party gathering and invite some people there to my house and then proceed to bludgeon them to death it's the Tea Party's fault?

//

God knows, it would be presented that way by some. It would be easier to make the case if you shot them, though.

656 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:03:59am

re: #648 Rightwingconspirator

I call bullshit on the numbers. Ratings bait is what stinks this time, IMO. "Point and laugh" instead of points of real interest.

i think it was a mistake. I think somebody made that graphic as work-place joke, and they aired it by mistake.

657 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:04:39am

Sandmonkey is running for parliament:

[Link: sandmonkey.org...] redirects to [Link: salem2011.org...]

From his twitter feed:

Everywhere around me people are demotivated, angry, emotionally drained, falling apart. I cannot allow this to happen to me. Can't afford it

Come to #Egypt , people get tortured to death here & no one gets punished. It's like Hostel, only real.

My mind can't comprehend people who can torture another human being, let alone torture them to death. How do u have that in u?

Egypt prison guards torture 24-year-old #EssamAtta to death [Link: english.ahram.org.eg...] via @ahramonline

658 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:04:52am

re: #537 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #534 RogueOne

"Phone records. Bank records. Personal letters that expose some kind of vulnerability," Rathbun told the Voice. "They'll read stuff into the kind of alcohol you're drinking and how much. Prescriptions. They'll figure out your diet. They can find out a lot about you through your trash."
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Freaks.

Does anyone, in this day and age especially, really put personal letters that expose vulnerability into the trash?

Personal letters that expose vulnerability are supposed to be burned. Or deleted. Or kept tied in ribbons in your bureau.

659 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:04:52am

re: #646 McSpiff

Well done.

660 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:06:16am

re: #657 000G

What are his current thoughts about the Glorious Revolution and possible MB takeover?

661 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:09:07am

re: #651 Sergey Romanov

Thanks for the perspective!

re: #654 Killgore Trout

Very well said.

re: #659 reine.de.tout

Well done.

Thanks guys! Been a while since I gave the political part of the ol'noggin a workout. I also moved cities, changed jobs, etc. I've been lurking tons, just usually too busy or too tired to post. None of the OWS stuff scared me off.

662 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:12:14am

re: #660 Sergey Romanov

What are his current thoughts about the Glorious Revolution and possible MB takeover?

Haven't checked much lately. I would check out his Twitter feed.

663 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:14:06am

re: #536 NJDhockeyfan

Occupy Madison loses permit

Is there a permit for masturbating in public?

And we start to see more false accusations against these events. Since the critics can't hardly find anything serious we get stuff that is just all made up. Or we get minor violations like "disruptive behavior" or minor vandalism suddenly treated like a major public menace. I think that is the fate of an unmoving target like an Occupy event in a major public area.

When we get far more trouble out of a May Day or Immigration march, it's called "relatively peaceful".

664 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:16:17am

re: #656 reine.de.tout

I think they made it to use elsewhere maybe in a newsroom meeting or such. But I'm pretty sure whoever made it is a critic, unconcerned with the reality on the ground.

665 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:16:49am

re: #646 McSpiff

Yes and no. I'm horribly ignorant about the whole thing. I've done a fair amount of research into the whole financial collapse. Its complicated. Removing the firewall between investment banking and deposit holding institutions was insane. The amount of leveraging was beyond insane. AIG's London office was issuing billions of dollars worth of CDSs (essentially insurance) to anyone without needing to hold any capital themselves, assuming they'd never need to pay out in a million years. Things were deregulated or under-regulated to such a degree that essentially certain key players were able to booby trap the system. The credit rating agencies became an absolute joke.

Wallstreet did things that even if they were legal, were certainly unethical. The average American debt holder (read: everyone) became just another commodity.

On the other hand, turning debt into just another commodity, with an associate risk and ways to migrate that risk depending on your portfolio, etc allows in theory for more access to capital for more people wanting it. Of course, it also allows for the high finance version of torching a house for the insurance money. Except you don't need to live in the house or even own it. I think society via the government is well within its rights to say that you shouldn't be allowed to bet on someone defaulting on their mortgage. But there is pros and cons to restricting that.

Like I said, its complicated and people were allowed to do some very shady things. The bailout was needed but the lack of changes to regulation, or people really being held to account is horrible. At the same time, how does the government punish someone for committing an act that is only clearly wrong in hindsight? How do we avoid ex post facto laws? If the whole system is rotten, how do we fix it?

Don't even get me started on things like High Frequency trading.

So yeah, if OWS was outside Moody's and S&P I'd be right behind them. Or if they were protesting some of the institutionalized-perks to being an investment bank. The markets they have access to, the data networks, etc.

But I haven't seen that from OWS, at all. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places. But the online commentary at places like slashdot and reddit, and seen at Occupy Ottawa has ranged from:

0) Lacking a plan - If Obama showed up tomorrow, and said "you win", what would change? Get rid of the Fed? Free university? Nationalized banks?

1) Total naivety - "We need to get rid of the banks! everyone just use credit unions!"

2) Missing the point - Occupy Ottawa seems mostly concerned with student loans, the trans-canada pipeline and hating the Tories (read: hating the GOP). But don't point that out because its a bi-partisan movement and conservatives are totally welcome. Mmmhmmm.

3) Spooky calls for class warfare. The whole 1% thing has been taken way too far in the young, left wing groups I interact with. You don't know the 1%. They don't live in the same areas you do, they don't work with you, their kids go to seperate schools, they fly on private jets, its fine to hate them. Really, to do what they do, actively try to hurt and destroy the 99%, the 1% need to be sociopaths. + end the fed + anti-semitism occasionally.

From what I've read here, that's the fringe. And honestly, I didn't see that at occupy Ottawa. But just reading stuff like that on reddit and people I went to school with makes me extremely wary to say I support OWS.

Plus the fact that the OWS supporters I know in Canada also tend to be anti-military, Gadaffi apologists. That's a turn off too, but probably more personal.

Sorry for the rant... But thats why I stay out ;-)

Agree with all of that, mostly. I don't really agree that restricting fraudulent credit expansion is in any way contrary to anything but the interest of very few select individuals.

Still in favor of OWS. Debate, debate, debate. Drive it.

666 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:22:08am

So with all the concern about a lack of concrete goals, why have we had zero mention of a very specific action OWS is taking on? How did this get missed?

Ponder that just a moment before you click this link.

Image: Bank-Transfer-Day.jpg

667 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:25:51am

re: #584 Dark_Falcon

I wonder if this will mean less aloof cats when they grow up?

Nurture over nature?

668 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:27:08am

re: #591 Sergey Romanov

I don't have to like it, but as long as I rail about "teabaggers", how can I complain?

We've established that it is not the actual tenor of discourse that matters, but whether the people being mocked have a righteous cause or not. At least that's what I think people have been saying.

669 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:27:43am

Ha. Interesting upding there.

670 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:28:07am

And thanks Bratwurst. ;)

671 jaunte  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:28:48am

re: #666 Rightwingconspirator

This is the first I've heard of Bank Transfer Day.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
I think they should get rid of the Guy Fawkes association, it's confusing.

672 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:29:48am

The Night Occupy Los Angeles Tore Itself In Two
[Link: www.theawl.com...]

Occupy LA’s decision-making body, the General Assembly, has been responsible for conducting the encampment’s business. As in most other cities, the participating members handle everything from ensuring the nightly meeting take place to doing financial research on Los Angeles-based bankers to cleaning up the trash. But on Wednesday, a large group of dissenters decided to occupy the General Assembly’s usual outdoor meeting space and assert themselves as the new regime. One man, standing at the center of the swirling and increasingly unruly crowd, yelled into a megaphone, “You don’t represent us anymore! We’re taking over! We’re the People’s Forum!” Rumblings of dissent and palpable animosity had been mounting in the camp throughout the afternoon. Informal meetings were held around the clock to hotly debate an issue that had factionalized the camp: weed.
....
Drug use has been a key conservative talking point used to undermine the various Occupy camps around the country. In Occupy Los Angeles, though, smoking weed has become a wedge issue dividing the camp into increasingly entrenched groups.
....
About sixty people were in attendance for the afternoon meeting. Most were young, many were Chicano, there were some purposefully well-dressed young white guys in collared shirts and ironed pants who were not camping but regularly attending meetings. There were a few older people in the group with the vibe of being life-long professional activists. About six men donned the traditional anarchist garb: pulled-up hoodie, black bandana around their face, an implacable look in their eyes.

“I don’t understand why people who want to smoke weed can’t just go across the street to do it?” one young man in camouflage shorts and black sweatshirt said. About half the group raised their hands up and twinkled their fingers in agreement.

673 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:30:11am

re: #665 000G

Agree with all of that, mostly. I don't really agree that restricting fraudulent credit expansion is in any way contrary to anything but the interest of very few select individuals.

Still in favor of OWS. Debate, debate, debate. Drive it.

I don't disagree, there was a lot of stuff that I think falls into that category. But not all credit. And the grey area can be huge.

re: #666 Rightwingconspirator

So with all the concern about a lack of concrete goals, why have we had zero mention of a very specific action OWS is taking on? How did this get missed?

Ponder that just a moment before you click this link.

Image: Bank-Transfer-Day.jpg

This is exactly what I mean. If you think the big,systematic problem is with bank deposits, you've probably missed the point.

Don't get me wrong, I hear that BoA and others have shitty fees, customer service etc. Move your money for those reasons. But if you think that's a stand against bailouts or Wallstreet...

674 bratwurst  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:30:34am

re: #610 Obdicut

Dude, you realize you're posting videos actually made by a right-wing militia dude, right?

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

And a Paulite?

See my 486.

676 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:32:32am

re: #613 Gus 802

Go away.

Sorry if I offended. You've cited your drinking in the past, though, which was why I brought it up. I apologize.

BBL

677 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:32:44am

re: #597 Gus 802

It's a bad business model. First we chase off the right wingers from LGF. Now we're going to chase off the left wingers. In the end nobody's going to want to register at LGF. This is one of the reasons we hardly have and new registrants. Right wingers certainly won't register. Lefties will come in here and read this and roll their eyes and leave.

In the end, only the argumentative will remain.

678 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:32:50am

re: #673 McSpiff

I don't disagree, there was a lot of stuff that I think falls into that category. But not all credit. And the grey area can be huge.

I think the ABSs, CBOs etc. were all essentially fraudulent. Claiming liabilities as assets is an accounting feature only banks should be allowed to make use of.

679 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:33:23am

re: #676 Dark_Falcon

Sorry if I offended. You've cited your drinking in the past, though, which was why I brought it up. I apologize.

BBL

I'll think about this for a while. But thanks for now.

680 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:33:36am

re: #671 jaunte

This is the first I've heard of Bank Transfer Day.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
I think they should get rid of the Guy Fawkes association, it's confusing.

Why the hell have they decided to have it on a Saturday?? Most branches of everything will be closed!

The Fawkes thing makes it look Paulian. Toxic, IMHO.

681 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:34:40am

re: #680 wrenchwench

Most branches of everything will be closed!

Sounds somehow ... apocalyptic. /

682 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:34:58am

re: #677 SanFranciscoZionist

In the end, only the argumentative will remain.

No they won't.

683 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:35:07am

re: #678 000G

I think the ABSs, CBOs etc. were all essentially fraudulent. Claiming liabilities as assets is an accounting feature only banks should be allowed to make use of.

Yup, we agree on that. Goldman-Sachs and others appeared to have the Midas touch, able turn debt into cash. Turns out they were just really good at turning debt into management fees and bonuses.

684 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:35:20am

re: #666 Rightwingconspirator

So with all the concern about a lack of concrete goals, why have we had zero mention of a very specific action OWS is taking on? How did this get missed?

Ponder that just a moment before you click this link.

Image: Bank-Transfer-Day.jpg

I've seen that. I think it's a bad idea to orchestrate a bank run. If people want to move their money that's fine by me but trying to cause an economic crisis by everybody moving their money at the same time is not something I'd support. I don't think they'll actually succeed but the effort is a bad idea.

685 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:35:47am

re: #673 McSpiff

I don't disagree, there was a lot of stuff that I think falls into that category. But not all credit. And the grey area can be huge.

re: #666 Rightwingconspirator

This is exactly what I mean. If you think the big,systematic problem is with bank deposits, you've probably missed the point.

Don't get me wrong, I hear that BoA and others have shitty fees, customer service etc. Move your money for those reasons. But if you think that's a stand against bailouts or Wallstreet...

An action like that is not just about fees. That is just the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. A public "retail" action writ large has an impact on an entity like a bank. It's one concrete step, in a place that should have more I admit.

Your take kinda points out a dilemma Occupy faces. We decry a lack of specifics, and when one comes up it's not broad enough.

686 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:36:24am

re: #684 Killgore Trout

I've seen that. I think it's a bad idea to orchestrate a bank run. If people want to move their money that's fine by me but trying to cause an economic crisis by everybody moving their money at the same time is not something I'd support. I don't think they'll actually succeed but the effort is a bad idea.

I wonder how much money total consumer deposits represent. Is that type of information available?

687 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:36:36am

re: #682 Obdicut

No they won't.

Can you explain that remark? Do you have anything to back it up?

688 jaunte  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:36:52am

re: #680 wrenchwench

It's a reasonable consumer reaction to excessive fees to move accounts from a bank to a credit union, but as McSpiff points out, it doesn't really address any major problems in the financial markets, and IMO the connection with Guy Fawkes is just playing off a recent fad.

689 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:37:14am

re: #687 wrenchwench

Can you explain that remark? Do you have anything to back it up?

Yes, but I'm going to passively-aggressively allude to it rather than state it in clear terms...

690 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:38:09am

re: #687 wrenchwench

Can you explain that remark? Do you have anything to back it up?

So, you're just asking questions? Concerned much?

691 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:38:45am

re: #684 Killgore Trout

If they just run to smaller banks and credit unions there is really no harm. And I think we both understand it will not be big enough to have a major economic impact. It might be big enough to get BofA to sweeten up some policies. For every dollar withdrawn, they lose the ability to loan many dollars. Which is all kinds of odd anyway.

692 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:39:14am

Since I moved to this (undisclosed) town in 1995, I've done all my banking with a locally owned institution. If I hadn't gone bike riding with the former president, and received his encouragement, I would not be a business owner today.

693 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:39:47am

re: #685 Rightwingconspirator

An action like that is not just about fees. That is just the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. A public "retail" action writ large has an impact on an entity like a bank. It's one concrete step, in a place that should have more I admit.

Your take kinda points out a dilemma Occupy faces. We decry a lack of specifics, and when one comes up it's not broad enough.

No, it just shows a fundamental lack of economic knowledge. Explain it to me like I'm 5. Where does your money go when you deposit it at BoA versus depositing it at a credit union, and what fundamentally makes the 2nd one better for you as a consumer.

694 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:40:11am

re: #692 wrenchwench

Since I moved to this (undisclosed) town in 1995, I've done all my banking with a locally owned institution. If I hadn't gone bike riding with the former president, and received his encouragement, I would not be a business owner today.

And I won't be tomorrow if I don't go do some work...

695 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:41:29am

re: #686 McSpiff

I wonder how much money total consumer deposits represent. Is that type of information available?

I don't know. It's always hard to tell with groups like Anon but if they were to have some big money behind this (a big mutual fund, foreign government, competing bank, etc) it could cause a serious mess. I don't think that's very unlikely but the anarchists from Anon just want to make a mess and there's always the possibility that someone out there is willing to help.

696 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:44:07am

Tenn. protesters arrested for 2nd straight night
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Tennessee state troopers for the second straight night arrested more than two dozen Wall Street protesters for defying a new nighttime curfew imposed by the state's Republican governor in an effort to disband an encampment near the Capitol.

And for a second time, a Nashville night judge dismissed the protesters' arrest warrants.

The Tennessean newspaper reported early Saturday morning ([Link: tnne.ws...] that Magistrate Tom Nelson told troopers delivering the protesters to jail that he could "find no authority anywhere for anyone to authorize a curfew anywhere on Legislative Plaza."

697 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:45:24am

re: #680 wrenchwench

Why the hell have they decided to have it on a Saturday??

Because [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

698 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:45:49am

re: #696 RogueOne

I missed part of the quote. You might want to refresh.

699 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:46:58am

re: #367 Sergey Romanov

OK, that was a decent flick as far as B-movies are concerned.

700 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:47:06am

re: #691 Rightwingconspirator

If they just run to smaller banks and credit unions there is really no harm. And I think we both understand it will not be big enough to have a major economic impact. It might be big enough to get BofA to sweeten up some policies. For every dollar withdrawn, they lose the ability to loan many dollars. Which is all kinds of odd anyway.

It isn't the moving of money that bothers me, it's the attempt to get everybody to do it at the same time to orchestrate a crisis that I have an issue with. If they succeed (which is unlikely) the bank will just go to the Fed for emergency funds to make sure they stay capitalized enough to still function. We'll end up paying for it. It's a stupid idea and economically ignorant or the reality we live in.

701 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:47:17am

re: #697 000G

Because [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Even stupider... IMHO...

Off to the dirty bikes.

702 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:47:30am

re: #696 RogueOne

Tenn. protesters arrested for 2nd straight night
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Yeah I noted that yesterday. I like this part:

And for a second time, a Nashville night judge dismissed the protesters' arrest warrants.

Cool judge.

703 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:48:52am

re: #693 McSpiff
re: #700 Killgore Trout

When deposits move from one entity to another, the second entity picks up the "energy" or deposits it needs to grow. Loan, hire, manage the new monies. The bank that no longer has those monies now has a competitive motive to make policies more consumer friendly. If credit unions and local banks get the funds they get some advantage. How is that so bad?!

Remember it is Bank Transfer Day not withdraw and bury the cash under your tent day. (Hmm I hope that reads as a lighter note not a snarky slap) :-)

In any case my point about the dilemma stands.

704 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:50:50am

re: #697 000G

Because [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

My trips to London (when the economy was healthier) were always this time of year. I'm not a big fan of holloween but bonfire night seems more my kind of thing. Lot's of cookouts, fireworks, drinking with family and friends. I've never been able to get an invite to a bonfire night party but it's something I look forward to.

705 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:51:28am

Navy commander sentenced in sexual assault of two sailors

A Navy commander Friday was sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison after pleading guilty to sexually assaulting two female sailors while he was the captain of the guided-missile destroyer Momsen.

Cmdr. Jay Wylie was also sentenced to be dismissed from the Navy, under a plea bargain with military prosecutors. Wylie was relieved of command of the Everett, Wash.-based ship in April when the allegations surfaced.

Wylie, 40, a 19-year veteran of the Navy, pleaded guilty to rape, aggravated sexual assault, abusive sexual content and conduct unbecoming an officer...

706 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:51:36am

re: #703 Rightwingconspirator

re: #700 Killgore Trout

When deposits move from one entity to another, the second entity picks up the "energy" or deposits it needs to grow. Loan, hire, manage the new monies. The bank that no longer has those monies now has a competitive motive to make policies more consumer friendly. If credit unions and local banks get the funds they get some advantage. How is that so bad?!

Remember it is Bank Transfer Day not withdraw and bury the cash under your tent day. (Hmm I hope that reads as a lighter note not a snarky slap) :-)

In any case my point about the dilemma stands.

You didn't answer anything I asked. You're right, that's what happens. But my question was why? Is the goal of OWS to get better customer service and lower fees for consumers? Noble goal but what's that have to do with the 1% I keep hearing about?

707 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:51:47am

If at first you don't succeed:

Woman guilty of trying to burn husband to death during nap
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

A Florida woman was convicted of trying to murder her husband by setting the couple's bedroom on fire while he napped, in one of two suspected attempts to kill him, authorities said on Saturday.
.....
Prosecutors said Kimberly Boone, a college financial aid manager from Winter Springs, Florida, set the couple's bedroom on fire in December 2008 while Robert Boone slept. She drugged her husband with the anti-anxiety medication Xanax, making it harder for him to escape the fire, they said.
....
She was not arrested for the arson and attempted murder until four months later, in April 2009, when Robert Boone was shot in the chest while checking on his wife's concern about noises in the garage.

Robert Boone, who survived both incidents, told investigators Kimberly brought their Ruger .357 into the garage. Kimberly told investigators Robert had the handgun.

Kimberly Boone was acquitted of attempted murder in the shooting case at her first trial in 2010.

708 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:52:38am

re: #703 Rightwingconspirator

re: #700 Killgore Trout

When deposits move from one entity to another, the second entity picks up the "energy" or deposits it needs to grow. Loan, hire, manage the new monies. The bank that no longer has those monies now has a competitive motive to make policies more consumer friendly. If credit unions and local banks get the funds they get some advantage. How is that so bad?!

Remember it is Bank Transfer Day not withdraw and bury the cash under your tent day. (Hmm I hope that reads as a lighter note not a snarky slap) :-)

In any case my point about the dilemma stands.

Once again; it's not the movement of money that bothers me. They're trying to make a coordinated effort to do it all simultaneously to cause a short term capitalization crisis. That's the problem.

709 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:53:44am

re: #683 McSpiff

Yup, we agree on that. Goldman-Sachs and others appeared to have the Midas touch, able turn debt into cash. Turns out they were just really good at turning debt into management fees and bonuses.

It's a long chain of conflicts of interests that will get unraveled some day, maybe when the public learns some essential lessons, e.g. about the difference between assets and liabilities, the creation of money through credit contracts, and why the lack of own capital/equity for lenders or collateral for borrowers always introduces toxicity into the resulting debt.

I am sure it won't end with the big banks or the hedge funds, though. The lack of prosecution to this day AFAIK is more indicative of incriminated government officials and/or institutions than of actual legality of the practices involved. This, I believe, points to another lesson which is probably better understood already: That the privatization of big profits together with the socialization of losses is a giant scam that leaves the public in general much worse off.

710 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:54:47am

I think I'm going to take a nap. If I don't make it back, call the police! Enjoy the day people

711 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:54:57am

Ad for gun training bars Muslims and Obama voters

A radio ad for a handgun training class that bars Muslims and Obama voters has sparked an investigation in Texas.

"We will attempt to teach you all the necessary information you need to obtain your [Concealed Handgun License]," the ad says. Then towards the end, it adds: "If you are a socialist liberal and/or voted for the current campaigner in chief, please do not take this class. You have already proven that you cannot make a knowledgeable and prudent decision under the law."

And then: "If you are a non-Christian Arab or Muslim, I will not teach you the class with no shame; I am Crockett Keller, thank you, and God bless America."

712 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:55:24am

re: #709 000G

It's a long chain of conflicts of interests that will get unraveled some day, maybe when the public learns some essential lessons, e.g. about the difference between assets and liabilities, the creation of money through credit contracts, and why the lack of own capital/equity for lenders or collateral for borrowers always introduces toxicity into the resulting debt.

I am sure it won't end with the big banks or the hedge funds, though. The lack of prosecution to this day AFAIK is more indicative of incriminated government officials and/or institutions than of actual legality of the practices involved. This, I believe, points to another lesson which is probably better understood already: That the privatization of big profits together with the socialization of losses is a giant scam that leaves the public in general much worse off.

Sing it! That's a movement I'd be behind 110%.

713 jaunte  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:55:54am

Goldman Sachs Sued By Hedge Fund For Knowingly Selling Toxic Mortgage-Backed Investments

A new lawsuit accuses Goldman Sachs of purposely unloading $93 million in mortgage-backed securities it knew to be junk onto a client, then betting against those same securities in the lead-up to the financial crisis.

714 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:56:28am

Trying to mess with a bank's Capital requirement is not something people should mess around with. Move your money if you want to but don't try to create an economic crisis.

715 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:56:45am

re: #706 McSpiff

You didn't answer anything I asked. You're right, that's what happens. But my question was why? Is the goal of OWS to get better customer service and lower fees for consumers? Noble goal but what's that have to do with the 1% I keep hearing about?

It is surely one goal to get better policies out of the mega banks. It's not a sole goal, it's one in there with others. BTW Bank transfer day was not started by Occupy. But Occupy likes the plan. It looks like retail reaction to harsh policies from a retail service provider to me.

So there is your why-To get some improvement where they think they can. Maybe it will work maybe not. But it's a fair shot at it.

716 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:57:26am

re: #672 RogueOne

The Night Occupy Los Angeles Tore Itself In Two
[Link: www.theawl.com...]

Splitters.

717 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:57:28am

re: #713 jaunte

Goldman Sachs Sued By Hedge Fund For Knowingly Selling Toxic Mortgage-Backed Investments

GS was creating and selling financial products that it knew were crap, solely so that other hedge funds would have something to bet against when it came to things like CDS. Insanity.

718 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:57:39am

re: #684 Killgore Trout

I've seen that. I think it's a bad idea to orchestrate a bank run. If people want to move their money that's fine by me but trying to cause an economic crisis by everybody moving their money at the same time is not something I'd support. I don't think they'll actually succeed but the effort is a bad idea.

They won't succeed. They tried something similar with PayPal before and failed. They usually do not realize that actual support in the public for their actions is much smaller than the internet hype they admittedly are masters at generating. Kinda like Paulbots.

Matt Taibbi seems to disagree with your assessment of bank runs (like this) being a bad idea, btw:

Another Weapon for OWS: Pull Your Money Out of BofA

Incidentally, this kind of suggestion might prove a real help to OWS. One definite tactic that Occupy Wall Street can adopt, going forward, is educating people about the perfidy of certain financial institutions and convincing people to do what they did back in the days of apartheid, which is disinvest. If everyone were to start pulling their money out of the worst-offending banks, that would have a profound effect on the markets and may function as a great short-cut to political change.

Bank of America is a great place to start. All the TBTF banks suck equally, but as George Orwell would say, some banks are more equal than others. Withdrawals would be a great way for people to answer the Fed's decision to put depositors on the hook for Merrill Lynch's bad bets.

719 jaunte  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:59:11am

re: #717 McSpiff

GS was creating and selling financial products that it knew were crap, solely so that other hedge funds would have something to bet against when it came to things like CDS. Insanity.

From that article:

...just as Goldman promised Basis that the Timberwolf mortgage-backed security would provide a 60 percent return on the investment, according to the report, a Goldman executive privately called the investment "one shitty deal."

720 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:59:28am

re: #715 Rightwingconspirator

It is surely one goal to get better policies out of the mega banks. It's not a sole goal, it's one in there with others. BTW Bank transfer day was not started by Occupy. But Occupy likes the plan. It looks like retail reaction to harsh policies from a retail service provider to me.

So there is your why-To get some improvement where they think they can. Maybe it will work maybe not. But it's a fair shot at it.

Right, well I'm happy with my bank, guess OWS isn't for me then.

721 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:59:46am

Bank Transfer Day: Because you were to fucking stoppid to realize you were getting screwed with fees until someone told you.

722 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:00:25am

re: #714 Killgore Trout

Trying to mess with a bank's Capital requirement is not something people should mess around with. Move your money is you want to but don't try to create an economic crisis.

That does not look like much of a risk. But let's revisit on the 6th. I still suggest that moving to local banks is a good idea at this time. The money is till in the economy just the same. Just not there to support mega banks quite as much.

Buy local counts for banking services too.

Disclosure-I gave up on the mega banks years ago, and have enjoyed the terms of a smaller bank since. One that makes loans that support the big entertainment industry in my area. BofA-Not so much.

723 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:00:32am

re: #719 jaunte

From that article:

Ha didn't even need to read the article to know it would be about Timberwolf. That was admitted to in congressional hearings IIRC

724 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:01:38am

re: #700 Killgore Trout

It's a stupid idea and economically ignorant or the reality we live in.

Sums up nicely most dilemmas in today's economy.

725 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:01:53am

re: #707 RogueOne

If at first you don't succeed:

Woman guilty of trying to burn husband to death during nap
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

A .357? Swear I'm losing faith in handguns. (About 17,000 people survive handgun suicide attempts each year.)

726 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:04:00am

re: #725 Decatur Deb

A .357? Swear I'm losing faith in handguns. (About 17,000 people survive handgun suicide attempts each year.)

So, life sucks, I'm gonna kill myself. FAIL. Wonder how bad life is the next day. Beside the fact that you now have a GSW.

727 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:05:24am

re: #726 Cannadian Club Akbar

So, life sucks, I'm gonna kill myself. FAIL. Wonder how bad life is the next day. Beside the fact that you now have a GSW.

Sounds scientific.

//

728 jaunte  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:06:28am

Kurt_Vonnegut tweets:
True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country.

730 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:08:35am

re: #720 McSpiff

Right, well I'm happy with my bank, guess OWS isn't for me then.

That may well be. The 99% claim is hyperbolic after all. And yet... How do you feel about the level of influence these mega banks have on legislation and elections? Are you happy with your bank in that context? How about the other mega banks?

Do you think it a good thing or a bad thing to protest bad banking and corporate policies in a recession?

Oh, we do have this, perhaps a sign of a retail banks response to consumer anger-
[Link: occupylosangeles.org...]

731 Four More Tears  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:08:44am

re: #714 Killgore Trout

Trying to mess with a bank's Capital requirement is not something people should mess around with. Move your money if you want to but don't try to create an economic crisis.

So this whole Free Market thing really is just bullshit. Good to know.

732 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:09:28am

Nostalgia.

733 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:10:10am

re: #712 McSpiff

Sing it! That's a movement I'd be behind 110%.

Wish I knew places where these issues were discussed without being as kooky as Dailypaul, Infowars/Prisonplanet or even just ZeroHedge, though. I have no use for goldbugs and neoconfederates.

734 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:12:14am

re: #728 jaunte

Kurt_Vonnegut tweets:
True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country.

My highschool dorm-mates are running the archdiocese of Boston and another in Colorado. Better them than me.

735 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:12:25am

re: #713 jaunte

Goldman Sachs Sued By Hedge Fund For Knowingly Selling Toxic Mortgage-Backed Investments

And yet certain people around here just recently claimed that all of Wall Street's actions leading up to 2007 were perfectly legal. Well yeah, they sure made it look like that. Until one of them found themselves shortchanged and decided that it was payback time. Suddenly the mantle of supposed legality drops. Funny how that works when the big players get hurt.

736 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:13:06am

One of the bad things about having Fridays off is you sometimes wake up Saturday morning totally convinced it's Sunday and dreading the start of a new week.

737 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:13:26am

This is too speculative for a poll but, in general out there-Could it be OWS faces a lot of extra criticism because it fails to rail against the Republicans enough and on the other hand fails to attack Obama enough? So the critics of both persuasions bitch about it.

738 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:14:10am

re: #714 Killgore Trout

Trying to mess with a bank's Capital requirement is not something people should mess around with. Move your money if you want to but don't try to create an economic crisis.

To be perfectly honest, though: The big players like BofA, which insist that they have a "right to make a profit", are experts at making everybody believe that whatever is not in their interests is tantamount to an economic crisis.

739 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:14:34am

re: #733 000G

Wish I knew places where these issues were discussed without being as kooky as Dailypaul, Infowars/Prisonplanet or even just ZeroHedge, though. I have no use for goldbugs and neoconfederates.

"You're posting in it!"

--Madge

you'll have to get someone else to explain the reference, I'm 'working'

740 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:14:35am

re: #736 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

One of the bad things about having Fridays off is you sometimes wake up Saturday morning totally convinced it's Sunday and dreading the start of a new week.

Well, if you have to work on Sunday, then Saturday is Sunday, just a day early.

741 jaunte  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:16:00am

Foreclosure firm's Halloween party features "homeless" costumes

...A third photograph shows a corner of Baum’s office decorated to look like a row of foreclosed homes. Another shows a sign that reads, “Baum Estates” — needless to say, it’s also full of foreclosed houses. Most of the other pictures show either mock homeless camps or mock foreclosure signs — or both.
....
MFY Legal Services, which defends homeowners, and Harwood Feffer, a large class-action firm, have filed a class-action suit claiming that Steven J. Baum has consistently failed to file certain papers that are necessary to allow for a state-mandated settlement conference that can lead to a modification. Judge Arthur Schack of the State Supreme Court in Brooklyn once described Baum’s foreclosure filings as “operating in a parallel mortgage universe, unrelated to the real universe.”

742 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:16:21am

re: #740 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, if you have to work on Sunday, then Saturday is Sunday, just a day early.

True, true.

743 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:17:24am

re: #738 000G

Great point. When we hear that from the defense industries it sure sounds like blackmail.
[Link: www.wired.com...]

744 RadicalModerate  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:18:46am

re: #721 Cannadian Club Akbar

Bank Transfer Day: Because you were to fucking stoppid to realize you were getting screwed with fees until someone told you.

Just a personal opinion: If you, after the shenanigans of the major banking institutions' handling YOUR finances, haven't transferred the vast majority of your accounts over to a Credit Union, you are a damned fool.

745 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:19:11am

re: #742 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

True, true.

But now, if you work Sundays and wake up on Saturday thinking it's Sunday then you realize it's still only Saturday, you just gave yourself 24 hours to the good. Drink!!

746 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:19:12am

re: #741 jaunte

Foreclosure firm's Halloween party features "homeless" costumes

A flyer from my county's Coalition for the Homeless has just asked for blankets, sleeping bags and tents. We have managed to achieve a Hooverville, near the traditional railroad yard.

747 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:19:25am

re: #738 000G

To be perfectly honest, though: The big players like BofA, which insist that they have a "right to make a profit", are experts at making everybody believe that whatever is not in their interests is tantamount to an economic crisis.

The problem with bank runs is they have a cascading effect as other people and intituions rush to pull out thier money too before liquid funds dry up. I don't know how many time I have to restate this but: I have no problem with people moving their money, just don't try to coordinate and to it simultaneously on the same day. It's a very bad idea. Although the chances of successfully creating a crisis are very slim it's a stupid thing to attempt.

748 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:19:34am
749 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:20:55am

re: #744 RadicalModerate

Just a personal opinion: If you, after the shenanigans of the major banking institutions' handling YOUR finances, haven't transferred the vast majority of your accounts over to a Credit Union, you are a damned fool.

Agree. I haven't used a major bank since 1992 or 93.

750 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:21:43am

re: #741 jaunte

Foreclosure firm's Halloween party features "homeless" costumes

Wow. I rest my OWS case for today. Thanks for the help. Now I'll just get back to party prep.

751 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:24:37am

re: #750 Rightwingconspirator

Wow. I rest my OWS case for today. Thanks for the help. Now I'll just get back to party prep.

I owe. I owe. So off to OWS I go.

//

752 jaunte  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:28:52am

Crap.

Kabul, Afghanistan — At least 13 American soldiers were among more than 20 people killed when a Taliban suicide car bomber attacked an armored NATO shuttle bus in Kabul on Saturday, a Western military official confirmed.[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

My son-in-law just got word yesterday he's being deployed to Afghanistan in a few weeks. He just got back from Djibouti.

753 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:29:43am

re: #730 Rightwingconspirator

That may well be. The 99% claim is hyperbolic after all. And yet... How do you feel about the level of influence these mega banks have on legislation and elections? Are you happy with your bank in that context? How about the other mega banks?

Do you think it a good thing or a bad thing to protest bad banking and corporate policies in a recession?

Oh, we do have this, perhaps a sign of a retail banks response to consumer anger-
[Link: occupylosangeles.org...]

Well, I'm Canadian, keep that in mind. Our banks were denied deregulation and mergers, so I'm pretty happy with that. Maybe they do have too much influence, they were bailed out for around $150 billion.

Overall, I pay no fees. I have access to my money from anywhere. My accounts are insured to $100k or something stupid. I have access to a credit card, debit card, atms. Free cheques. Various options for my RRSP (401k I guess?) and TFSA (Roth IRA maybe?). I can pick between various high risk high reward products, right down to 0 risk with returns probably under inflation. I like that my company has access to various forms of credit so it can afford to invest in its future instead of just sitting on mountains of cash. I like that our customers can fiance the massive infrastructure projects that allow both them and us to profit.

Sure, I hate what individual companies and people did, but from where I'm sitting it just doesn't make sense for me to say 'I hate modern financial markets', which is where I feel OWS is.

754 funky chicken  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:36:32am

re: #646 McSpiff

My dad is a right-winger who has gotten tied up with some of the Tea Party nuts...but he's a CPA and business owner and very sharp about money. He says lots of people from AIG and Goldman Sachs should be wearing orange jumpsuits and breaking big rocks into little rocks.

So the TPers got taken over by the Koch brigade, and their message of "freedom" or whatever now only applies to, well, folks like AIG and Goldman Sachs. We'll see what happens with OWS. If it gets people to finally ask companies like Nike why the hell they charge $200 for shoes they make in China with what is essentially slave labor, that would be a good thing.

Really, Ipads cost 500 bucks. Don't tell me Apple couldn't afford to pay an American living wage to the people who build them.

755 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:36:40am

re: #753 McSpiff

I had forgotten you are Canadian. You guys pretty much avoided the whole mess huh? In a modern financial market. If we examine the differences between US baking policies and Canada perhaps we will see where we went wrong.

756 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:38:37am

re: #737 Rightwingconspirator

This is too speculative for a poll but, in general out there-Could it be OWS faces a lot of extra criticism because it fails to rail against the Republicans enough and on the other hand fails to attack Obama enough? So the critics of both persuasions bitch about it.

OWS seems to be what the Tea Party only pretended to be: non-partisan, though mostly due to perceived lack of meaningful choices and a sense of despair about the political process and system in general. Of course that will elicit attacks from all partisan places. The problem with OWS is getting the movement to engage in politically activities that are meaningful beyond just awareness and attention. The Tea Party was/is hyper partisan, but they had an essential role in actually molding and shaping an entire major political party.

757 funky chicken  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:38:56am

re: #747 Killgore Trout

Having once been a BofA customer, I simply encourage folks to think of the hours of waiting for "customer service" on such a busy day....

758 makeitstopghazi  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:39:46am

re: #691 Rightwingconspirator

If they just run to smaller banks and credit unions there is really no harm. And I think we both understand it will not be big enough to have a major economic impact. It might be big enough to get BofA to sweeten up some policies. For every dollar withdrawn, they lose the ability to loan many dollars. Which is all kinds of odd anyway.

One thing that I noticed listening to the news in the truck the other day - BoA caught so much shit for announcing those ATM fees, it scared all the other banks off of even trying it.

Despite claims that OWS is not affecting the banks, they are paying attention. They might not be scared out of their skin or anything, but let's say for argument's sake that 10,000 or 20,000 people move their accounts on 11/5.

That's probably no big deal in terms of the money involved, but it'll make the news and people will hear about it.

And the banks will pay more attention.

I'm moving my business account out of Citibank on 11/5. And they will try to incentivize me not to. I'm moving my money anyway.

759 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:41:22am

re: #741 jaunte

Foreclosure firm's Halloween party features "homeless" costumes

Wow. Just wow. People really think the results of their actions will never get back to them at all, ever?

760 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:42:41am

re: #759 000G

Wow. Just wow. People really think the results of their actions will never get back to them at all, ever?

When Uncle Sam not only turned a blind eye, but bailed out the worst offenders, why shouldn't folks come to that conclusion?

761 makeitstopghazi  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:43:28am

re: #759 000G

Wow. Just wow. People really think the results of their actions will never get back to them at all, ever?

Yeah, I posted that last night.

They should get a lot more scrutiny from law enforcement at this point. Let those heartless motherfuckers worry about losing their houses and see how they like it.

762 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:43:45am

re: #756 000G

OWS seems to be what the Tea Party only pretended to be: non-partisan, though mostly due to perceived lack of meaningful choices and a sense of despair about the political process and system in general. Of course that will elicit attacks from all partisan places. The problem with OWS is getting the movement to engage in politically activities that are meaningful beyond just awareness and attention. The Tea Party was/is hyper partisan, but they had an essential role in actually molding and shaping an entire major political party.

So far partisans outnumber indies like me.
So Far. 2012 beckons.

763 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:44:04am

re: #754 funky chicken

Really, Ipads cost 500 bucks. Don't tell me Apple couldn't afford to pay an American living wage to the people who build them.

Apple's Form 10-K Reveals Over $80 Billion In Cash
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Guess not. (I posted this early this morning)

764 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:44:16am

re: #757 funky chicken

Having once been a BofA customer, I simply encourage folks to think of the hours of waiting for "customer service" on such a busy day...

I had a BoA account many moons ago and closed it after they got busted selling their customer's personal information to marketing firms. I have a Wells Fargo account for convenience but I'm not that happy with a bunch of their practices. I have a Charles Schwab account that I'm very happy with and will eventually move all my money into it.

765 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:44:36am

re: #760 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

When Uncle Sam not only turned a blind eye, but bailed out the worst offenders, why shouldn't folks come to that conclusion?

Too big to fail should never have meant to big to indict.

766 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:47:27am

re: #763 Cannadian Club Akbar

Apple's Form 10-K Reveals Over $80 Billion In Cash
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Guess not. (I posted this early this morning)

And this link was in that link.
[Link: www.macrumors.com...]

Money shot:
"It's a topic for the board on an ongoing basis and we will continue to discuss it," Cook said in response to an analyst question. Apple CFO Peter Oppenheimer jumped in after Cook was finished answering the question, to point out that more than two-thirds of Apple's $81 billion cash pile was sitting offshore.

767 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:47:30am

re: #755 Rightwingconspirator

I had forgotten you are Canadian. You guys pretty much avoided the whole mess huh? In a modern financial market. If we examine the differences between US baking policies and Canada perhaps we will see where we went wrong.

I know our current PM has done a few sessions with American officials over the differences, and I'm sure it happens at lower levels too. I think you'll see there are many reasons, including plain old luck.

On the other hand, I really don't know how bad it got/is for the average person in the states. So that colors my opinion on the whole thing strongly.

768 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:48:03am

re: #765 Rightwingconspirator

Too big to fail should never have meant to big to indict.

That's the point the TBTF players are trying to make up to this day: Indict us and the economy goes down in flames again.

769 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:48:16am

re: #765 Rightwingconspirator

Too big to fail should never have meant to big to indict.

Shouldn't have, but ended up that way. And I hold Obama responsible for the blatant failure to bring those responsible for it all to justice.

770 funky chicken  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:50:10am

re: #752 jaunte

Crap.

My son-in-law just got word yesterday he's being deployed to Afghanistan in a few weeks. He just got back from Djibouti.

It's time to get the hell out of there. It's been time for years, but now that Osama's dead, we're done with everything we set out to do. The Bush administration hand-picked the leaders of Afghanistan and Iraq, and now we see their man in Iraq is actually Iran's man, and Karzai just announced to the world that he's Pakistan's man instead of ours.

Fine. So bring our people home and wash our hands of the whole mess. If they want to blow each other up and treat their girls and women like trash (Afghanistan) and want to blow up energy infrastructure and schools (both places), well, it's not our problem. And our military people are being killed, maimed, and run ragged.

There was an article on CNN last night about an army ranger who was killed on his FOURTEENTH deployment. He had deployed FOURTEEN times over the last 9 years.

Insanity.

771 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:50:22am

re: #768 000G

That's the point the TBTF players are trying to make up to this day: Indict us and the economy goes down in flames again.

Yep. "Indict us and you'll scare off all the 'talent' that makes us successful!" It's a bunch of horseshit, a call essentially for blanket immunity for any actions that damage the economy, simply out of fear jailing those responsible will have even more dire economic consequences.

772 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:50:45am

re: #764 Killgore Trout

I had a BoA account many moons ago and closed it after they got busted selling their customer's personal information to marketing firms. I have a Wells Fargo account for convenience but I'm not that happy with a bunch of their practices. I have a Charles Schwab account that I'm very happy with and will eventually move all my money into it.

I have an investment acct at SmithBarney - but for everything else, I use a credit union and have for 30 years. I've never been disappointed with my credit union. I'm not sure why most folks don't just use a credit union instead of banks that, to me, seem OBVIOUSLY to want to deal with accounts that involve large amounts of money (commercial accounts), rather than the nickel-and-dime stuff most people have.

773 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:52:50am

I closed my BB&T account after they started charging for not having enough money in your account. 10 bucks a month unless you have >1500 bucks in there.
What BS.

774 funky chicken  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:54:02am

re: #766 Cannadian Club Akbar

And this link was in that link.
[Link: www.macrumors.com...]

Money shot:
"It's a topic for the board on an ongoing basis and we will continue to discuss it," Cook said in response to an analyst question. Apple CFO Peter Oppenheimer jumped in after Cook was finished answering the question, to point out that more than two-thirds of Apple's $81 billion cash pile was sitting offshore.

Which means their stock price will go up. Wall Street loves hearing about offshore accounts and factories in 3rd world countries. It's good for profits, after all.

It's bad for America, but what do they care?

775 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:54:51am

re: #773 Varek Raith

I closed my BB&T account after they started charging for not having enough money in your account. 10 bucks a month unless you have >1500 bucks in there.
What BS.

C'mon now. If you don't have enough money it makes total sense to charge you and take more money from you so next month you won't have enough money either.
/do I really need this tag?

776 funky chicken  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:55:11am

re: #773 Varek Raith

I closed my BB&T account after they started charging for not having enough money in your account. 10 bucks a month unless you have >1500 bucks in there.
What BS.

LOL. Debtor's prison? Charging you for not being rich enough?

777 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:57:42am

re: #774 funky chicken

Which means their stock price will go up. Wall Street loves hearing about offshore accounts and factories in 3rd world countries. It's good for profits, after all.

It's bad for America, but what do they care?

And it'll raise pressure on Congress to drop the taxes on that money to "bring it home," with empty promises that it'll go to job creation and investment, when it'll follow the money that came before by going to pay investors and execs.

778 makeitstopghazi  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:58:17am

re: #773 Varek Raith

I closed my BB&T account after they started charging for not having enough money in your account. 10 bucks a month unless you have >1500 bucks in there.
What BS.

Yep. Citi is going to start charging 3 bucks per check or transaction if your small business account balance dips below 6 grand. My small business is very small (one-man shop), and quite often my balance goes below $6K.

I've been with Citi since I started my business 13 years ago and they were still EAB. I'm not going to stick around and let them siphon money out of my account in return for the privilege of doing business with their bank.

They're supposed to be working for me, not the other way round.

779 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:59:10am

Off to get a haircut. I found this place soon after moving here, "Imperial Barber Shop". Went purely because of the name, turns out they give a wicked haircut. My barber was an immigrant from Somalia, via Kenya, having first run the barber shop for the main UN compound in that region. Very cool, very funny guy.

781 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:03:27am
782 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:04:26am

re: #780 Varek Raith

Fox's Bolling On October Snow: "Hey A Gore...Where's Your Global Warming Now?"

[Video]

How many times must they be told that "Weather != Climate" before these morons stop with this utter BS?

783 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:04:49am

Okay. 700+ comments, Master Spy up, plus a tab for YouTube scary Halloween music.... Aurora works fantastic on my Win7 64 bit machine.

784 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:04:55am

re: #780 Varek Raith

Fox's Bolling On October Snow: "Hey A Gore...Where's Your Global Warming Now?"

[Video]

Hey, Bolling, where's your brain? Never seen it.

785 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:06:00am

re: #784 Sergey Romanov

Hey, Bolling, where's your brain? Never seen it.

NYC = ENTIRE PLANET.

Good to know.

786 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:06:06am

re: #783 Rightwingconspirator

Okay. 700+ comments, Master Spy up, plus a tab for YouTube scary Halloween music... Aurora works fantastic on my Win7 64 bit machine.

[Video]

See. I'm the resident LGF Firefox Aurora evangelist.

//

787 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:06:35am

re: #785 Varek Raith

NYC = ENTIRE PLANET.

Good to know.

I thought that was Texas?

788 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:06:53am

re: #786 Gus 802

Thanks for the heads up. Best thing since I used to run Seamonkey.

789 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:06:59am

re: #783 Rightwingconspirator

I installed Aurora (but didn't get rid of the other one because I thought it would leap frog it) and my puter froze up. Might try it again at another time.

790 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:07:06am

re: #787 Gus 802

I thought that was Texas?

That's a whole different planet.

791 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:07:50am

re: #786 Gus 802

See. I'm the resident LGF Firefox Aurora evangelist.

//

It fucking crashes. If I leave it at home with LGF running, usually I get a crash when I come back from work.

792 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:07:54am

re: #786 Gus 802

See. I'm the resident LGF Firefox Aurora evangelist.

//

Heretic, you have gone against the word of Gravel! Ye shall burn!

///

793 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:08:55am

re: #789 Cannadian Club Akbar

I installed Aurora (but didn't get rid of the other one because I thought it would leap frog it) and my puter froze up. Might try it again at another time.

I uninstalled the old Firefox and then deleted any and all Firefox folders under the Users directory and deleted all old Firefox registry instances. Then installed Aurora.

794 makeitstopghazi  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:09:06am

re: #783 Rightwingconspirator

Okay. 700+ comments, Master Spy up, plus a tab for YouTube scary Halloween music... Aurora works fantastic on my Win7 64 bit machine.

[Video]

I may try it later. I've been using Chrome because FF was being really dickish. But if Aurora is an improvement I might give it a spin...

Off to the music store. Gotta buy a rack compressor for my PA and check out some new guitars. Stay warm/dry.

795 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:09:17am

re: #792 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Heretic, you have gone against the word of Gravel! Ye shall burn!

///

He has already denounced Gravel several days ago. I thought about burning him, but too lazy.

796 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:09:40am

re: #791 Sergey Romanov

It fucking crashes. If I leave it at home with LGF running, usually I get a crash when I come back from work.

Really?

797 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:09:55am

re: #793 Gus 802

I uninstalled the old Firefox and then deleted any and all Firefox folders under the Users directory and deleted all old Firefox registry instances. Then installed Aurora.

And that's the wrong way to install any browser.

798 bratwurst  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:10:11am

re: #782 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

How many times must they be told that "Weather != Climate" before these morons stop with this utter BS?

Hey, we get certain lizards who have presumably been reading Charles' work for YEARS doing the same thing...can't be shocked to see it on Fox!

799 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:10:40am

re: #796 Gus 802

Really?

Did you see a sarc tag? /

Probably some minor memory leak that accumulates as the Spy runs (just a hypothesis).

800 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:10:48am

re: #797 Sergey Romanov

And that's the wrong way to install any browser.

No it ain't. ;)

801 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:11:06am

re: #793 Gus 802

I uninstalled the old Firefox and then deleted any and all Firefox folders under the Users directory and deleted all old Firefox registry instances. Then installed Aurora.

I saw that when you originally talked about Aurora. I didn't see that you deleted everything else until I had already put in Aurora. BAH!!!

802 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:11:32am

re: #800 Gus 802

No it ain't. ;)

Yes it is. If any browser requires it, that's a wrong browser that shouldn't be used. Because it was created by llamas.

803 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:11:41am

re: #801 Cannadian Club Akbar

I saw that when you originally talked about Aurora. I didn't see that you deleted everything else until I had already put in Aurora. BAH!!!

I just dropped it in. Nothing special.

804 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:11:50am

So, Eric Derp Bolling, I guess that record breaking heat wave during the summer proves global warming?
Your 'logic' is a two edged sword you fool.

805 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:11:58am

re: #802 Sergey Romanov

Yes it is. If any browser requires it, that's a wrong browser that shouldn't be used. Because it was created by llamas.

Fernando llamas?

//

806 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:12:19am

re: #805 Gus 802

Fernando llamas?

//

The Monty Python llamas. But I digress ;)

807 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:12:53am

A damn shame I can't remember my twitter login.
Oh well.

808 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:13:27am

re: #806 Sergey Romanov

The Monty Python llamas. But I digress ;)

Y no me illmas eso pelotudo!

//

809 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:13:44am

re: #802 Sergey Romanov

Yes it is. If any browser requires it, that's a wrong browser that shouldn't be used. Because it was created by llamas.

Hey, Sim City was created by llamas!

/(Obscure Reference Moment)

810 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:13:55am

re: #807 Varek Raith

A damn shame I can't remember my twitter login.
Oh well.

Surely it can be restored from e-mail addy?

811 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:14:23am

re: #808 Gus 802

Y no me illmas eso pelotudo!

//

re: #809 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hey, Sim City was created by llamas!

/(Obscure Reference Moment)

I'm lost.

812 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:14:26am

re: #807 Varek Raith

A damn shame I can't remember my twitter login.
Oh well.

Yea. They should make some link to where you could get your info back. That would RULE!!
///
(I haven't used mine in forever and they sent me an email)

813 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:14:46am

re: #808 Gus 802

Y no me illmas eso pelotudo!

//

Romanes Eunt Domus!

//

814 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:14:55am

re: #810 Sergey Romanov

Surely it can be restored from e-mail addy?

Yes.
However!
I'm lazy right now.
:)

815 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:15:22am

re: #813 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Romanes Eunt Domus!

//

Homo homini lupus est.

816 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:15:36am

re: #814 Varek Raith

Yes.
However!
I'm lazy right now.
:)

That's a good reason.

817 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:15:57am

re: #815 Sergey Romanov

Homo homini lupus est.

Qwerty uiop!

818 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:16:06am

re: #811 Sergey Romanov

re: #809 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm lost.

Will Wright, creator of the Sim City franchise, inserted several references to llamas in the games, starting with Sim City 2000.

819 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:16:48am

re: #818 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Will Wright, creator of the Sim City franchise, inserted several references to llamas in the games, starting with Sim City 2000.

It's also were Cain got his 999 plan from.
/

820 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:17:50am

re: #819 Varek Raith

It's also were Cain got his 999 plan from.
/

Always thought he got it from looking at a Pizza Hut ad.

/

821 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:19:35am

re: #817 Gus 802

Qwerty uiop!

Festina lente.

822 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:20:28am

re: #820 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Always thought he got it from looking at a Pizza Hut ad.

/

It's a stamp on the top of his head that he was born with.

//

823 blueraven  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:21:14am

re: #795 Sergey Romanov

He has already denounced Gravel several days ago. I thought about burning him, but too lazy.

KT wants to be invited to a bonfire...re: #704 Killgore Trout

and it is almost Halloween!
//

824 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:22:39am

re: #823 blueraven

KT wants to be invited to a bonfire...re: #704 Killgore Trout

and it is almost Halloween!
//

We can make it an annual event. We can call it "Burning Gus" and hold it somewhere in the Mojave Desert.

//

825 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:25:01am

re: #823 blueraven

KT wants to be invited to a bonfire...re: #704 Killgore Trout

and it is almost Halloween!
//

Oh, I'm sure KT would enjoy that vewy much. /

826 makeitstopghazi  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 1:19:16pm

re: #809 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hey, Sim City was created by llamas!

/(Obscure Reference Moment)

Hey, WinAmp really kicks the llama's ass!

(Equally obscure MP3 player reference)

The trip to the music store was infuriating. Short version: Guitar Center's apathetic sales staff has driven me away forever.

827 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 2:13:31pm

re: #753 McSpiff

Well, I'm Canadian, keep that in mind. Our banks were denied deregulation and mergers, so I'm pretty happy with that. Maybe they do have too much influence, they were bailed out for around $150 billion.

Overall, I pay no fees. I have access to my money from anywhere. My accounts are insured to $100k or something stupid. I have access to a credit card, debit card, atms. Free cheques. Various options for my RRSP (401k I guess?) and TFSA (Roth IRA maybe?). I can pick between various high risk high reward products, right down to 0 risk with returns probably under inflation. I like that my company has access to various forms of credit so it can afford to invest in its future instead of just sitting on mountains of cash. I like that our customers can fiance the massive infrastructure projects that allow both them and us to profit.

Sure, I hate what individual companies and people did, but from where I'm sitting it just doesn't make sense for me to say 'I hate modern financial markets', which is where I feel OWS is.

This would be Matt Tiabbi's answer to you: [Link: www.rollingstone.com...]


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