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1 darthstar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:21:22pm

NO NEW THREADS!

Sorry...I was just thinking about clothes shopping.

2 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:22:36pm

re: #1 darthstar

NO NEW THREADS!

Whose thread? Our Thread!
/Wiggles fingers

3 albusteve  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:27:31pm

re: #2 Killgore Trout

Whose thread? Our Thread!
/Wiggles fingers

no masterbating!

4 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:28:18pm
5 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:28:24pm

EllenBarkin Ellen Barkin

I hate Halloween but didn't it just suck when it rained or snowed & u had 2 cover ur muthafuckin costume w a muthafuckin coat? Fuckin worst.

6 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:29:09pm

re: #4 Charles

Sneak preview.

fucking a

7 albusteve  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:29:16pm

re: #5 Stanley Sea

EllenBarkin Ellen Barkin

I hate Halloween but didn't it just suck when it rained or snowed & u had 2 cover ur muthafuckin costume w a muthafuckin coat? Fuckin worst.

no

8 engineer cat  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:29:56pm

re: #4 Charles

Sneak preview.

i get

Query 1 failed: MDB2 Error: syntax error

9 engineer cat  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:31:27pm

as for myself, as soon as i get a compile imma check in all these new files, put on my costume, and go to the halloween party an get drunk

10 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:32:58pm

omg one of my pages was tweeted 87 times!

11 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:34:15pm

re: #8 engineer dog

That's why we have sneak previews.

12 freetoken  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:36:28pm

re: #11 Charles

What does "rating" mean?

13 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:37:46pm

re: #12 freetoken

What does "rating" mean?

Total updings/downdings for the page in question. Will be fascinating for you to compare the numbers between now and "then".

14 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:38:25pm

re: #12 freetoken

What does "rating" mean?

Dings.

15 freetoken  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:38:46pm

re: #13 publicityStunted

Oh, that was obvious.

Must eat more chocolate...

16 engineer cat  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:38:58pm

re: #11 Charles

That's why we have sneak previews.

a little free QA

:-)

i'm running firefox 7.0.1 on Win XP Professional 2002 sp 3

17 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:39:00pm

re: #3 albusteve

no masterbating!

Too late for that warning.

18 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:40:27pm

re: #16 engineer dog

a little free QA

:-)

i'm running firefox 7.0.1 on Win XP Professional 2002 sp 3

Try again - you should see an error message now.

19 albusteve  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:40:39pm

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Too late for that warning.

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Too late for that warning.

drum circlejerk?

20 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:43:49pm

re: #4 Charles

Sneak preview.

I haven't posted any LGF pages!

Which is the correct answer.

21 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:47:53pm
22 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:48:51pm
23 engineer cat  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:51:10pm

re: #18 Charles

Try again - you should see an error message now.

:-)

i've been thinking about what i might make a page about...

24 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:52:20pm

re: #22 Gus 802

Most Tweets: Video: Christopher Hitchens: 'All Of Life Is A Wager

519

Possibly one of the targets of the stalkers.

25 freetoken  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:52:35pm

re: #21 Gus 802

Most viewed: 'Grassroots' Rove-linked group funded almost entirely by billionaires

Views: 3,276

Heh, the count total has gone up by 3!

26 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:54:08pm

re: #24 Sergey Romanov

Possibly one of the targets of the stalkers.

All the more probable since there are 522 clicks but 0 retweets.

[Link: bitly.com...]

27 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:57:57pm

So, I walk by a TV in my apartment, and the Discovery Channel is on.

Whatever show is on, a title flashes on the screen, saying "Porcupine or Bust."

I missed something.

28 jaunte  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:58:23pm
29 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:58:33pm

re: #26 Sergey Romanov

All the more probable since there are 522 clicks but 0 retweets.

[Link: bitly.com...]

Ha! Thanks. What a nut. I don't want to talk about those people.

30 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:58:45pm

re: #27 ProLifeLiberal

I'm missed something.

You've surely did.

31 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:59:27pm

re: #30 Sergey Romanov

Why would one be going after Porcupines. They don't make good pets, for very obvious reasons.

Edit: Apparently, this is for a show called "Gold Rush Alaska."

They were going to or doing something at Porcupine Creek.

32 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:03:39pm

re: #24 Sergey Romanov

Possibly one of the targets of the stalkers.

Speaking of them (and other trolls), the dashboard gives what I assume is the option to close any particular page (by clicking the word "open" - I haven't actually tried it yet, but that's what the tooltip says when you hover over it)

That could be a handy way to temporarily protect a page that's being troll-jacked (assuming you can re-open it once the troll has been fittingly grilled)

33 Kragar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:06:16pm

re: #31 ProLifeLiberal

Why would one be going after Porcupines. They don't make good pets, for very obvious reasons.

Cool hat though.

34 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:06:34pm

re: #32 publicityStunted

Speaking of them (and other trolls), the dashboard gives what I assume is the option to close any particular page (by clicking the word "open" - I haven't actually tried it yet, but that's what the tooltip says when you hover over it)

That could be a handy way to temporarily protect a page that's being troll-jacked (assuming you can re-open it once the troll has been fittingly grilled)

Yes, you can open or close a Page with that option. No problem re-opening.

35 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:13:33pm

re: #34 Charles

Yes, you can open or close a Page with that option. No problem re-opening.

So it does mean opening/closing it to comments? Just want to confirm, because older pages show as "open" when they're actually archived and closed to comments.

36 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:14:30pm

Ah, time to watch a timeless classic on Netflix. A movie that has survived the ages and served as a cinema icon. I speak, of course, of Return of the Living Dead.

37 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:15:01pm

re: #35 publicityStunted

So it does mean opening/closing it to comments? Just want to confirm, because older pages show as "open" when they're actually archived and closed to comments.

No, it means to "delete" or "restore" the post. "Open" means it's visible to the world, "closed" means it's still there but not visible.

38 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:15:37pm

re: #36 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Ah, time to watch a timeless classic on Netflix. A movie that has survived the ages and served as a cinema icon. I speak, of course, of Return of the Living Dead.

Hey!

39 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:17:55pm

re: #38 Sergey Romanov

Hey!

Like with most of Netflix, RotLD Parts I & III are available, but not Part II. BAH!

40 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:20:15pm

re: #4 Charles

Sneak preview.

Vewy Vewy Kewl!

What does "closed" mean for a Post?

41 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:20:25pm

re: #39 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And that's why torrents rule! :P

BTW, before the last week I've only seen III, 15-17 years ago or so. (Early Russian cable TV/VHS market was a B movie paradise :).

42 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:21:57pm

re: #15 freetoken

Oh, that was obvious.

Must eat more chocolate...

It ALWAYS helps!

43 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:24:44pm

re: #41 Sergey Romanov

And that's why torrents rule! :P

BTW, before the last week I've only seen III, 15-17 years ago or so. (Early Russian cable TV/VHS market was a B movie paradise :).

Yeah, I watched it back about the same time on HBO, back when it first came out. Which was grand...when you're a 10-yr old kid who gets nightmares easily. Never made sense to me that I love zombie movies, even though they give me nightmares.

44 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:24:57pm

Cool. I re-opened this embarrassing thread. Well, not embarrassing for me.

Discovery Institute Wingnut David Klinghoffer Blames Hostage-Taking Nut James Lee on Darwinism

45 Kragar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:25:13pm

They made a 4 and 5 several years ago, complete and utter crap

46 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:25:23pm

re: #40 ggt

Vewy Vewy Kewl!

What does "closed" mean for a Post?

never mind, I read the whole thread.

47 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:25:59pm

I have three closed, don't know how it happened. Did I do it a long time ago? Don't remember it being an option.

Oh well,

48 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:26:30pm

re: #37 Charles

No, it means to "delete" or "restore" the post. "Open" means it's visible to the world, "closed" means it's still there but not visible.

Then perhaps it might be more intuitive to have the wording be "Show/Hide" instead? It could help prevent others from having to ask :)

49 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:26:40pm

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They made a 4 and 5 several years ago, complete and utter crap

Yeah, Z-Grade movies that they showed on Scifi.

50 Bob Dillon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:28:29pm

re: #36 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Ah, time to watch a timeless classic on Netflix. A movie that has survived the ages and served as a cinema icon. I speak, of course, of Return of the Living Dead.

Now, is that part 1, 2, or 3? Or possibly a marathon?

51 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:29:17pm

re: #48 publicityStunted

Then perhaps it might be more intuitive to have the wording be "Show/Hide" instead? It could help prevent others from having to ask :)

open/closed is fine.

Some of us just have a different learning curve.

52 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:30:19pm

re: #50 Bobibutu

Now, is that part 1, 2, or 3? Or possibly a marathon?

Watching Part I, probably going to look for a torrent of Part II later.

53 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:32:41pm

"You mean the movie lied?!"

54 Kragar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:33:21pm

re: #53 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

"You mean the movie lied?!"

"Send...more...paramedics."

55 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:34:08pm

re: #51 ggt

Some of us just have a different learning curve.

I didn't guess its true meaning correctly at first either. As for the old pages that show as "closed" for you, perhaps you deleted them at the time for some reason, like discovering they'd already been posted?

56 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:34:43pm

re: #53 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The most effective scene for me is when they load the parts in the oven and the music starts.

57 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:35:24pm

re: #56 Sergey Romanov

The most effective scene for me is when they load the parts in the oven and the music starts.

Nah, for me, the best scenes will always involve Tarman.

58 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:36:50pm

re: #57 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

BTW, was it this movie that started the "BRAAAINS!" stereotype?

59 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:39:13pm

re: #58 Sergey Romanov

BTW, was it this movie that started the "BRAAAINS!" stereotype?

Ayep. Romero's zombies weren't so picky about what they ate.

60 Kragar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:40:07pm

re: #58 Sergey Romanov

BTW, was it this movie that started the "BRAAAINS!" stereotype?

Yup;

61 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:41:40pm

Here's the thing about thumb drives.

They're small.

Yes, I know, that's the point of a thumb drive.

Small, in this house, means = easy to lose.

Also, they're a mandatory part of back to school shopping. It amazes me to think that my kids carry more memory around in their backpacks than we had until we were 30.

62 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:41:50pm

Good points -- the "Status" column is now "visible" or "hidden".

63 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:42:51pm

Click the title to edit the Page -- with a Preview function too.

64 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:44:17pm

re: #63 Charles

Click the title to edit the Page -- with a Preview function too.

Very cool.

65 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:45:05pm

My kids are complaining about my cooking again:

Image: IMG_2270b.JPG

66 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:46:29pm

Our friends in the Magic Kingdom...
Saudi prince backs cleric's bounty offer for Israeli soldier

Prince Khaled bin Talal, a brother of Saudi billionnaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, told Daleel television over the phone that he decided to contribute to Awad al-Qarni's bounty after the Saudi cleric received death threats for offering $100,000 to capture an Israeli soldier.

"Dr Awad al-Qarni said he was offering $100,000 to only take a prisoner but they responded by offering $1 million to kill Awad al-Qarni," Prince Khaled said, according to a recording of the call published on Daleel's website.

"I tell Dr. Awad al-Qarni, 'I will be in solidarity with you and pay the remaining $900,000 to take an Israeli soldier prisoner so that other prisoners can be freed,'" he added.

67 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:46:48pm

re: #60 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Stupid Tarman! There are no brains there!

68 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:48:03pm

re: #66 Killgore Trout

Our friends in the Magic Kingdom...
Saudi prince backs cleric's bounty offer for Israeli soldier

That's the brother of the Fox News shareholder.

69 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:48:12pm

re: #66 Killgore Trout

Ah, what the fuck?

Didn't realize the House of Saud were that open about their support of terrorism.

70 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:48:51pm

re: #68 Gus 802

That's the brother of the Fox News shareholder.

Indeed it is

71 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:49:12pm

re: #68 Gus 802

That's the brother of the Fox News shareholder.

AND:

Former President of Saudi's Al-Hilal Volleyball Club.

What a hard case.

72 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:49:25pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Indeed it is

Make a page and word it that way. ;)

73 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:50:19pm

re: #72 Gus 802

Well, to be fair, he has denounced his brother-- the nutjob has denounced the Fox News shareholder-- for being too liberal.

74 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:51:23pm

re: #69 Obdicut

Ah, what the fuck?

Didn't realize the House of Saud were that open about their support of terrorism.

Aside from that whole "Wahhabism as a state religion" and "sending religious hate lit to the US mosques" thing, yep, that's a surprise.
///sorry

75 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:51:36pm

re: #73 Obdicut

Well, to be fair, he has denounced his brother-- the nutjob has denounced the Fox News shareholder-- for being too liberal.

That wouldn't stop Fox News or wingnuts if the shoe was on the other foot. ;)

76 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:52:39pm

"Brraaaiiinnnsss!"

77 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:53:20pm

re: #75 Gus 802

Well, the Fox audience might prefer the terrorist-supporting brother, since he is the more conservative one, after all. His brother is all hollywood.

78 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:53:39pm

re: #76 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

"Brraaaiiinnnsss!"

Look, you all want brains? Start voting for your school levies, or the zombies will starve to death.

79 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:54:17pm

A poem from Sir Thomas Wyatt, early 1500's England: "They Flee From Me"[Link: rpo.library.utoronto.ca...]

80 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:54:51pm

re: #78 EmmmieG

Look, you all want brains? Start voting for your school levies, or the zombies will starve to death.

Thank you very much, you just gave the Republicans the greatest excuse :-/

81 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:55:58pm

re: #77 Obdicut

Well, the Fox audience might prefer the terrorist-supporting brother

Speaking of which, guess what dead-thread douchetroll decided to come back? 9_9

82 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:57:00pm

DEFUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND TEACH CREATIONISM OR ZOMBIES WIN!!!

83 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:57:43pm

re: #77 Obdicut

Well, the Fox audience might prefer the terrorist-supporting brother, since he is the more conservative one, after all. His brother is all hollywood.

Funny. True.

84 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:57:50pm
85 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:58:40pm

re: #81 publicityStunted

Already kicked in the fork.

It does appear the new denier position is pretending that they never claimed that it wasn't warming.

Of course, that leaves the whole problem of why they were talking about the urban heat effect on sensors in the first place, or why the phony 'climategate' stuff-- which was about the temperature record-- was such a brouhaha.

86 Gus  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:59:15pm

android dreams
by Samuel Cockedey

A tribute to Ridley Scott and Vangelis, whose atmospheric work on Blade Runner has been a huge source of inspiration in my shooting time lapses, as well as for entire generations of filmmakers. I hope this will make many of you want to revisit (or discover if you haven't yet) this genre-defining movie...

87 Kragar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:02:47pm

re: #81 publicityStunted

Speaking of which, guess what dead-thread douchetroll decided to come back? 9_9

I love GW trolls.

Lets look at the options;

a) Global warming is false, but we spend money to fight it anyways. We develop alternate energy solutions to lessen our dependence on foreign entities, we boost our scientific knowledge and infrastructure, and get a cleaner environment.

or

b) Global Warming is real and we do nothing. Civilization as we know it collapses, billions die and our ability to even continue as a species is questionable.

Decisions, decisions.

88 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:04:00pm

re: #4 Charles

Sneak preview.

WAY cool!

*looks around room and whispers...* Do you suppose it's okay to hug Charles?

Screw it, I'm going for it...Thank youuu! {{{Charles}}}

89 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:05:26pm

re: #87 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I love GW trolls.

Lets look at the options;

a) Global warming is false, but we spend money to fight it anyways. We develop alternate energy solutions to lessen our dependence on foreign entities, we boost our scientific knowledge and infrastructure, and get a cleaner environment.

or

b) Global Warming is real and we do nothing. Civilization as we know it collapses, billions die and our ability to even continue as a species is questionable.

Decisions, decisions.

For those not paying attention, China's already made it's decision, and while it's spending a great deal of money building fossil fuel plants, it's also working to corner the market on renewable energies.

90 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:05:37pm

***DANGER***DANGER*** HUGGING SHARIAH!!!

91 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:05:51pm

"Send...more...paramedics."

92 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:08:27pm

re: #90 Sergey Romanov

***DANGER***DANGER*** HUGGING SHARIAH!!!

ZMOG—Check her for explosives first!!11!

93 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:08:58pm

LGF Pages Dashboard App?
Wow.
What will it do?

94 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:09:39pm

re: #92 CuriousLurker

But it's your cat! Surely, there are no explosives.

95 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:09:49pm

re: #93 reine.de.tout

LGF Pages Dashboard App?
Wow.
What will it do?

Drive you to the store and help you pick out some apples.

Just don't let it take you to the drive in.

96 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:09:56pm

re: #92 CuriousLurker

Join the Dark Side! We have cookies :)

97 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:10:23pm

re: #93 reine.de.tout

LGF Pages Dashboard App?
Wow.
What will it do?

Click the link and you'll see. It's pretty neat. I was surprised at what was popular (all the while keeping in mind stalker abuse).

98 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:12:01pm

"The pain of being dead."

99 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:13:58pm

re: #95 EmmmieG

Drive you to the store and help you pick out some apples.

Just don't let it take you to the drive in.

I just clicked the link in Charles #4 and it brought me to MY pages. Way cool. How does it know it's me and then pulls up my pages? A mystery. But it does.

100 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:14:23pm

re: #68 Gus 802

That's the brother of the Fox News shareholder.

Indeed. This should put Fox News in an interesting position. Let's see if they run this story.

101 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:17:03pm

re: #99 reine.de.tout

I just clicked the link in Charles #4 and it brought me to MY pages. Way cool. How does it know it's me and then pulls up my pages?

The same way it knows to put a pale green header bar on all your comments :) PHP variables are a wonderful thing.

102 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:18:08pm

re: #101 publicityStunted

The same way it knows to put a pale green header bar on all your comments :)

Ah.
Still a mystery then! To me, anyhow.

103 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:19:04pm

re: #4 Charles

Sneak preview.

That is incredible. So organized. Much more so than RL.

104 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:20:28pm

re: #82 Sergey Romanov

I just saw a very odd/silly/50s-distopia zombie comedy called Fido (2006).

105 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:20:45pm

I was at Cafe Touche in the Edison Park neighborhood of Chicago tonight at dinner and this man was one of the waiters. At first, I found it a bit puzzling that a person would wear a "V for Vendetta" Guy Fakes costume to work. But on reflection it makes sense if you work in a French restaurant, although not in the way many people would think. If Fawkes had blown up Parliament, the next step of those who plotted with him would have been to ask for troops from France to allow them to take control of England.

Just a thought I had.

106 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:23:38pm

re: #102 reine.de.tout

Ah.
Still a mystery then! To me, anyhow.

Programming magic. How's that? ;)

Hey, one day when I was lurking I saw you post a pic of a lovely new fleur-de-lis you were working on—is it done yet? Are you gonna post a Page about it? I wanna seeee!

107 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:24:23pm

re: #102 reine.de.tout

Still a mystery then! To me, anyhow.

Semi-geek explanation: When you log in to LGF, you tell it who you are. Based on that, it serves up certain things catered to you. The dashboard link pretty much says to itself, "Look up what user is logged in and show them all their pages. If someone isn't logged in, display a message telling them they have to log in first before they can use the dashboard".

108 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:25:31pm

re: #55 publicityStunted

I didn't guess its true meaning correctly at first either. As for the old pages that show as "closed" for you, perhaps you deleted them at the time for some reason, like discovering they'd already been posted?

So, delete and close are the same thing.

Sorry, I got called away and am still catching-up. Ignore this post if it's already been addressed.

:0

109 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:26:22pm

re: #65 EmmmieG

My kids are complaining about my cooking again:

Image: IMG_2270b.JPG

Then, tell them to cook for themselves!

:0

teehee

110 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:28:38pm

re: #89 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

For those not paying attention, China's already made it's decision, and while it's spending a great deal of money building fossil fuel plants, it's also working to corner the market on renewable energies.

CHINA . NOT . STUPID

China may be a lot of things, but she is not stupid.

111 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:29:37pm

re: #109 ggt

Then, tell them to cook for themselves!

:0

teehee

That'll give em something to complain about.

112 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:29:40pm

re: #105 Dark_Falcon

I was at Cafe Touche in the Edison Park neighborhood of Chicago tonight at dinner and this man was one of the waiters. At first, I found it a bit puzzling that a person would wear a "V for Vendetta" Guy Fakes costume to work. But on reflection it makes sense if you work in a French restaurant, although not in the way many people would think. If Fawkes had blown up Parliament, the next step of those who plotted with him would have been to ask for troops from France to allow them to take control of England.

Just a thought I had.

I hate the Fawkes masks. I hated that movie. I hate people who go to demonstrations in Fawkes masks, at least so long as they are wearing the masks.

I mention this every time they come up, but I feel it worth mentioning again.

113 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:31:03pm

re: #106 CuriousLurker

Programming magic. How's that? ;)

Hey, one day when I was lurking I saw you post a pic of a lovely new fleur-de-lis you were working on—is it done yet? Are you gonna post a Page about it? I wanna seee!

It is finished.

Here it is.

Image: P1000558.jpeg


Amazingly, I've had a few folks ask if I'm going to make these to sell. A couple of folks seem to be interested. I'm not QUITE good enough yet. But I'm getting there.

114 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:31:13pm

re: #112 SanFranciscoZionist

I hate the Fawkes masks. I hated that movie. I hate people who go to demonstrations in Fawkes masks, at least so long as they are wearing the masks.

I mention this every time they come up, but I feel it worth mentioning again.

I hated the movie too. At the ending, I said --why? Was there a story?

115 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:31:20pm

re: #112 SanFranciscoZionist

I hate the Fawkes masks. I hated that movie. I hate people who go to demonstrations in Fawkes masks, at least so long as they are wearing the masks.

I mention this every time they come up, but I feel it worth mentioning again.

I don't mind the masks as a Halloween costume. I deeply object to them being worn at a protest, though. Masked protesters are often a sign of trouble. If you're peaceful, then why do you hide your face?

116 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:31:39pm

re: #113 reine.de.tout

It is finished.

Here it is.

Image: P1000558.jpeg

Amazingly, I've had a few folks ask if I'm going to make these to sell. A couple of folks seem to be interested. I'm not QUITE good enough yet. But I'm getting there.

beautimus!

117 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:32:14pm

re: #116 ggt

beautimus!

Merci!

118 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:32:23pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

I don't mind the masks as a Halloween costume. I deeply object to them being worn at a protest, though. Masked protesters are often a sign of trouble.

Mickey Mouse--maybe--since Congress and all seem that way. A guy that started fires --not so cool.

119 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:32:35pm

re: #110 ggt

CHINA . NOT . STUPID

China may be a lot of things, but she is not stupid.

China's focused on the long game. The cost alone of fueling their economy on fossil fuel for the next 50 years is not something they can just ignore.

120 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:32:52pm

re: #112 SanFranciscoZionist

I hate the Fawkes masks. I hated that movie. I hate people who go to demonstrations in Fawkes masks, at least so long as they are wearing the masks.

I mention this every time they come up, but I feel it worth mentioning again.

Omg I was just talking about this yesterday to some Paulinoid dimbulb.

It does still come up.

Cripes, my BFF's kindergartner could explain the difference between REAL LIFE and A MOVIE, but they can't.

121 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:33:18pm

re: #107 publicityStunted

Semi-geek explanation: When you log in to LGF, you tell it who you are. Based on that, it serves up certain things catered to you. The dashboard link pretty much says to itself, "Look up out what user is logged in and show them all their pages. If someone isn't logged in, display a message telling them they have to log in first before they can use the dashboard".

Thank you!
I'm just amazed at things that can be done.

122 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:33:28pm

re: #113 reine.de.tout

It is finished.

Here it is.

Image: P1000558.jpeg

Amazingly, I've had a few folks ask if I'm going to make these to sell. A couple of folks seem to be interested. I'm not QUITE good enough yet. But I'm getting there.

Oh, wow, you really outdid yourself this time. That's gorgeous! I'd pay for what you do, but if you don't feel quite ready I can understand that too.

123 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:33:38pm

re: #114 ggt

I hated the movie too. At the ending, I said --why? Was there a story?

The bit where it turns out that he, rather than the government, has been torturing her, simply blew it for me. It was an 'oh, this is STUPID' moment.

I didn't like the rest of it, but that was the "Oh, good Lord, whatever" part.

124 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:34:26pm

re: #121 reine.de.tout

Thank you!
I'm just amazed at things that can be done.

MAGIC!

125 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:34:33pm

re: #114 ggt

I hated the movie too. At the ending, I said --why? Was there a story?

The story ended up on the cutting room floor, along with most of the stuff that they gutted from the original graphic novel to crowbar in the "Bush Is Bad!" monotony.

126 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:34:52pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

I don't mind the masks as a Halloween costume. I deeply object to them being worn at a protest, though. Masked protesters are often a sign of trouble. If you're peaceful, then why do you hide your face?

Chicks dig guys wearing cheap masks representing seventeenth century terrorists?

127 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:35:22pm

re: #123 SanFranciscoZionist

The bit where it turns out that he, rather than the government, has been torturing her, simply blew it for me. It was an 'oh, this is STUPID' moment.

I didn't like the rest of it, but that was the "Oh, good Lord, whatever" part.

I lost it when she accused him of torture --I didn't get it. All I saw was her getting swirlied. Either I wasn't paying attention or they didn't show, only implied, torture.

128 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:35:38pm

OT: Charles Pierce continues to rock.

Serious Republicans have become concerned. By Serious Republicans, I mean the people who would like to forget how much their party has profited politically over the past 50 years by allying itself with Bible-thumpers, sexual bigots, the sad detritus of American apartheid, the black-helicopter crowd, and people who would like the federal income tax to be as flat as they believe the earth is. By Serious Republicans, I mean the likes of Jeb Bush, Haley Barbour, David Frum, John Podhoretz, and Karl Rove.

(Yes, for the purposes of argument, Karl Rove is a Serious Republican, and not just an unusually successful ratfker who, at one point or another, has used all the above-listed constituencies to win elections. Just play along, okay?)

The Serious Republicans have become concerned over the 2012 Republican presidential field in general, and over Rick Perry in the specific. The other day, Podhoretz, showing the true loyalty to self of the career Legacy Hire, took to the pages of that deeply serious newspaper, The New York Post, which will publish anything written by a conservative that is not written in bodily humours, to moan about the quality of the help his party is being asked to hire. Quoth The Pod:

Stop proposing nonsense tax plans that won't work. Stop making ridiculous attention-getting ads that might be minimally acceptable if you were running for county supervisor in Oklahoma. Stop saying you're going to build a US-Mexico border fence you know perfectly well you’re not going to build. Give the GOP electorate and the American people some credit. This country is in terrible shape. They know it. You know it. They want solutions. You’re providing comedy. This is a serious time. It requires serious leaders. Where's the gravity?

The intellectual burning and chafing among the Serious Republicans grew most acute when Perry, staring both a colossal failure and Donald Trump — but we repeat ourselves — in the face, seemed to flirt with reviving the "issue" of President Obama's citizenship and to suggest that he might reopen the "issue" of the president's birth certificate. Oh, the swooning and the vapors that ensued.

A lot of people on my side of the aisle like Matt Taibbi's writing. While he's good, the hands-down winner in the informative snark category is Pierce if you ask me.

The whole article is well worth the read.

129 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:35:40pm

re: #122 CuriousLurker

Oh, wow, you really outdid yourself this time. That's gorgeous! I'd pay for what you do, but if you don't feel quite ready I can understand that too.

That was THE most difficult thing I've done thus far, but I learned a lot doing it. My fingertips, however, were shredded, LOL.

130 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:35:57pm

re: #125 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The story ended up on the cutting room floor, along with most of the stuff that they gutted from the original graphic novel to crowbar in the "Bush Is Bad!" monotony.

Is the graphic novel really worth picking up? I've been deterred, simply because the movie was so brainless.

131 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:36:50pm

re: #118 ggt

Mickey Mouse--maybe--since Congress and all seem that way. A guy that started fires --not so cool.

He didn't start fires, Fawkes tried to plant a massive bomb and blow up the British Parliament. He was a Catholic and was motivated by the persecution of Catholics in the British isles at the time. However, had his plan succeeded, he and his fellow plotters would have called upon France and Spain for help. Had that help arrived while England was still disorganized, its possible that world history would have been very different. There likely would have been no Paradise Lost, for instance, since Fawkes and his allies would have likely handed John Milton over to the Inquisitors the invaders would have brought with them.

132 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:36:57pm

re: #129 reine.de.tout

That was THE most difficult thing I've done thus far, but I learned a lot doing it. My fingertips, however, were shredded, LOL.

All those curves must've been a big challenge, but they make it ever so elegant.

133 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:37:00pm

re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist

Chicks dig guys wearing cheap masks representing seventeenth century terrorists?

they don't make Freddie Kruger masks anymore? I don't get it either. Basically, so smart marketing dude said, "Hey, let's license these masks and, you know, because of the movie, stores will stock them."

Some salesman made good commission on them. Which isn't all bad.

134 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:39:27pm

re: #130 SanFranciscoZionist

Is the graphic novel really worth picking up? I've been deterred, simply because the movie was so brainless.

It's decent, but the author really, really hated Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.

135 Kragar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:39:28pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

I don't mind the masks as a Halloween costume. I deeply object to them being worn at a protest, though. Masked protesters are often a sign of trouble. If you're peaceful, then why do you hide your face?

Because they're ugly!

136 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:39:34pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

He didn't start fires, Fawkes tried to plant a massive bomb and blow up the British Parliament. He was a Catholic and was motivated by the persecution of Catholics in the British isles at the time. However, had his plan succeeded, he and his fellow plotters would have called upon France and Spain for help. Had that help arrived while England was still disorganized, its possible that world history would have been very different. There likely would have been no Paradise Lost, for instance, since Fawkes and his allies would have likely handed John Milton over to the Inquisitors the invaders would have brought with them.

Ok, well the Phoenix (bird) in Harry Potter was named Fawkes. Which, BTW, is how I learned about Fawkes and probably explains the only thing I really remember about him is something to do with Fire and Parliment

:0

137 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:40:27pm

re: #130 SanFranciscoZionist

Is the graphic novel really worth picking up? I've been deterred, simply because the movie was so brainless.

It's fairly good, like much of Alan Moore's work. Sadly, Hollywood has a disturbing tendency to trash his work.

138 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:42:36pm

re: #113 reine.de.tout

Amazingly, I've had a few folks ask if I'm going to make these to sell. A couple of folks seem to be interested. I'm not QUITE good enough yet. But I'm getting there.

Oh! That reminds me of something I meant to tell you about, before it completely slipped my mind! (I swear the Internet/working in IT has given me ADD):

The Caring Collection

Not sure if they have anyone based in Louisiana, but if so, perhaps you could try doing work for them?

139 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:43:15pm

Bother Puppy has taken to laying across my chest and chewing on a toy, while I am trying to sleep.

*yawn*

As a result, I didn't get a nap today.

Goodnight all!

Have a wonderful evening!

Thank you, Charles, for the dashboard.

Is there some tie-in with Meatloaf?

140 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:43:42pm

re: #130 SanFranciscoZionist

Is the graphic novel really worth picking up? I've been deterred, simply because the movie was so brainless.

Also, does the graphic novel explain why Guy Bloody Fawkes? Except that the blowing-up-Parliament is so dramatic?

(Much better, although brief, use of Guy Fawkes is Diana Wynne Jones's Witch Week. Kids' book. Takes place in a boarding school in England, in an alternate universe where witch-burning has continued into the 1980s.

141 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:45:19pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

I don't mind the masks as a Halloween costume. I deeply object to them being worn at a protest, though. Masked protesters are often a sign of trouble. If you're peaceful, then why do you hide your face?

I agree with you. Answer: because they don't know jack eff about civil disobedience. Sorry for the no true scotsman but seriously -- I can't stand them.

142 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:46:32pm

re: #113 reine.de.tout

Oh wow, nice! - I'd buy one.

143 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:49:04pm

re: #122 CuriousLurker

Oh, wow, you really outdid yourself this time. That's gorgeous! I'd pay for what you do, but if you don't feel quite ready I can understand that too.

Check yer email.

144 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:50:23pm

re: #143 reine.de.tout

Check yer email.

Going to check now...

145 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:51:05pm

re: #141 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I agree with you. Answer: because they don't know jack eff about civil disobedience. Sorry for the no true scotsman but seriously -- I can't stand them.

Thank you, and you aren't doing a No True Scotsman if you can back up the assertion with facts (and on this you can). So you're good.

146 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:51:14pm

re: #138 publicityStunted

Oh! That reminds me of something I meant to tell you about, before it completely slipped my mind! (I swear the Internet/working in IT has given me ADD):

The Caring Collection

[Video]Not sure if they have anyone based in Louisiana, but if so, perhaps you could try doing work for them?

Oh, cool!

Those are made with a method using copper foil (rather than lead). I haven't done any copper foil (lots of soldering required) but I have the foil and I'll have to try it!

147 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:52:14pm

re: #140 SanFranciscoZionist

Also, does the graphic novel explain why Guy Bloody Fawkes? Except that the blowing-up-Parliament is so dramatic?

(Much better, although brief, use of Guy Fawkes is Diana Wynne Jones's Witch Week. Kids' book. Takes place in a boarding school in England, in an alternate universe where witch-burning has continued into the 1980s.

Besides the story beginning with the bombing of Parliament, V takes the Fawkes persona because he sees himself as a ideological successor, one whose job it is to use his acts of terrorism to tear down the authoritarian gov't and give the people the chance to decide for themselves how they'll live. However, unlike the film, V's ultimate aim is to promote a form of civilized anarchy, a "Land-of-Do-As-You-Please."

148 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:53:00pm

Mystery in Lubbock! Sooner-beating Texas Tech Red Raiders vanish! High school team replaces missing squad for Iowa State game! Search continues!

149 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:54:26pm

re: #138 publicityStunted

(I swear the Internet/working in IT has given me ADD):

Ohh, I know exactly what you mean. I'm in the IT-induced OCD camp, myself.

For me, it comes out over religion and classic film.

I am rewatching Snow Cake, and can really relate to the Sigourney Weaver character.

150 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:54:56pm

re: #147 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Besides the story beginning with the bombing of Parliament, V takes the Fawkes persona because he sees himself as a ideological successor, one whose job it is to use his acts of terrorism to tear down the authoritarian gov't and give the people the chance to decide for themselves how they'll live. However, unlike the film, V's ultimate aim is to promote a form of civilized anarchy, a "Land-of-Do-As-You-Please."

Yes...but...Guy Fawkes...Fawkes...wasn't exactly an anarchist.

Why not Thomas More? "Utopia" lends itself better to that sort of thing.

151 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:56:06pm

re: #150 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes...but...Guy Fawkes...Fawkes...wasn't exactly an anarchist.

Why not Thomas More? "Utopia" lends itself better to that sort of thing.

[paulinoid]Yeah but Thomas More didn't have those nifty masks that we can put on.[/paulinoid]

152 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:00:13pm

re: #151 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

[paulinoid]Yeah but Thomas More didn't have those nifty masks that we can put on.[/paulinoid]

Pretty much. The whole idea of Guy Fawkes mask and regalia was to give him a sort of "superhero" appearance, plus the whole history behind the Gunpowder Plot. Yeah, Fawkes' motives were not really the reason behind it all, but the symbolism of his act was part of the mythos.

So yeah, in short, they wanted to dress him up like Fawkes.

153 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:05:20pm

re: #152 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Pretty much. The whole idea of Guy Fawkes mask and regalia was to give him a sort of "superhero" appearance, plus the whole history behind the Gunpowder Plot. Yeah, Fawkes' motives were not really the reason behind it all, but the symbolism of his act was part of the mythos.

So yeah, in short, they wanted to dress him up like Fawkes.

That's the only way it fits. Since Fawkes was a devout Catholic, and not at all in favor of do-as-you-please.

But wouldn't do-as-you-please tend more towards Ayn Rand's Objectivism?

154 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:07:50pm

re: #153 Dark_Falcon

That's the only way it fits. Since Fawkes was a devout Catholic, and not at all in favor of do-as-you-please.

But wouldn't do-as-you-please tend more towards Ayn Rand's Objectivism?

Rand never seems to actually want people to do as they please though--she wants them to either become captains of industry, or grovel at their feet. Not much choice in life.

OK, maybe not totally fair. Whatisbucket is an architect. But still.

155 Digital Display  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:07:53pm

Stanford-USC are in triple OT

156 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:08:22pm

Eloise and Guy Fawkes night:

157 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:11:30pm

re: #153 Dark_Falcon

That's the only way it fits. Since Fawkes was a devout Catholic, and not at all in favor of do-as-you-please.

But wouldn't do-as-you-please tend more towards Ayn Rand's Objectivism?

Well, part of the motivation also behind V for Vendetta was also as thinly-veiled satire of Thatcher's Britain, with Moore believing that Maggie would lose in '83 and the coming new government would be one of total nuclear disarmament. Such that when nuclear war did come, Britain would be spared, but the government would quickly be overtaken by a fascist movement.

It's a lot like Watchmen in that it draws a great deal on the symbolism of the early 80s, when everyone was convinced that nuclear war was inevitable, that conservative governments like Reagan's and Thatcher's would push the world to said war, and that the Soviet Union would remain in place virtually forever.

158 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:11:53pm

re: #153 Dark_Falcon

That's the only way it fits. Since Fawkes was a devout Catholic, and not at all in favor of do-as-you-please.

But wouldn't do-as-you-please tend more towards Ayn Rand's Objectivism?

Did you see Babette's Feast? (It sounds OT but it's not, and not a jerk/trick question, either.)

Protestants can often harbor stereotypes about Catholicism -- I think some people gloss over Fawkes' Catholicism and relate it to their own yearnings, because of this view.

159 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:12:48pm

re: #157 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, part of the motivation also behind V for Vendetta was also as thinly-veiled satire of Thatcher's Britain, with Moore believing that Maggie would lose in '83 and the coming new government would be one of total nuclear disarmament. Such that when nuclear war did come, Britain would be spared, but the government would quickly be overtaken by a fascist movement.

It's a lot like Watchmen in that it draws a great deal on the symbolism of the early 80s, when everyone was convinced that nuclear war was inevitable, that conservative governments like Reagan's and Thatcher's would push the world to said war, and that the Soviet Union would remain in place virtually forever.

And bangs would only get bigger.

160 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:12:56pm

re: #155 HoosierHoops

Stanford-USC are in triple OT

Go Bears, go Bruins lol

161 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:19:12pm

re: #157 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, part of the motivation also behind V for Vendetta was also as thinly-veiled satire of Thatcher's Britain, with Moore believing that Maggie would lose in '83 and the coming new government would be one of total nuclear disarmament. Such that when nuclear war did come, Britain would be spared, but the government would quickly be overtaken by a fascist movement.

It's a lot like Watchmen in that it draws a great deal on the symbolism of the early 80s, when everyone was convinced that nuclear war was inevitable, that conservative governments like Reagan's and Thatcher's would push the world to said war, and that the Soviet Union would remain in place virtually forever.

Thankfully it did not work out that way. The UK's victory in the Falkland Islands War of 1982 left Thatcher even stronger after the General Election she called in its immediate wake. And both she and Ronald Reagan proved much smarter and more careful than their critics (or present day wingnuts) gave them credit for. Moreover, the Soviet Union turned out to be in much worse economic condition than had been thought. The USSR seemed on the march in the 1970's when oil prices were high, but when they fell in the 1980's Moscow was left in dire straights.

162 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:25:07pm

re: #161 Dark_Falcon

Thankfully it did not work out that way. The UK's victory in the Falkland Islands War of 1982 left Thatcher even stronger after the General Election she called in its immediate wake. And both she and Ronald Reagan proved much smarter and more careful than their critics (or present day wingnuts) gave them credit for. Moreover, the Soviet Union turned out to be in much worse economic condition than had been thought. The USSR seemed on the march in the 1970's when oil prices were high, but when they fell in the 1980's Moscow was left in dire straights.

True, but we're both looking at things in hindsight. At the time, the Soviet propaganda apparatus was still working hard, keeping folks in the dark about any and all failures that happened behind the Iron Curtain. It wasn't until Chernobyl in '86 that the West got to see behind the veil and find out that the Soviet system was falling apart at the seams. So, in '82, to theorize that the Soviet Union would remain a viable world power into the 90s and beyond wasn't that far-fetched.

163 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:39:23pm

re: #162 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

True, but we're both looking at things in hindsight. At the time, the Soviet propaganda apparatus was still working hard, keeping folks in the dark about any and all failures that happened behind the Iron Curtain. It wasn't until Chernobyl in '86 that the West got to see behind the veil and find out that the Soviet system was falling apart at the seams. So, in '82, to theorize that the Soviet Union would remain a viable world power into the 90s and beyond wasn't that far-fetched.

No, it wasn't, not at all. But looking back we can see that the worm was already turning. The UK got a tremendous shot the arm with its victory over Argentina.

America's victory was not as noticeable, but also important: 1982 was the year Paul Volker finally wrung the last of the runaway inflation out of the US monetary system. This meant that America could grow its economy again, without being chocked by runaway inflation. And Reagan's increases in defense spending were helping our nation's military, too. But those two trends would not be visible until 1983. Once they were though, we now know that the USSR's leaders were quite scared.

The world also got lucky when Yuri Andropov died, which I believe also happened in 1983. Had he lived, the nuclear war people feared would have been much more likely.

So while by 1984 Ronald Reagan could indeed say "It's morning again in America!", in 1982 its was a case of things being darkest right before the dawn.

164 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:45:07pm

Yep, it's amazing how much things can change in a year's time. So much of the end of the Cold War had to do with fortunate (or unfortunate, depending on the event) timing. The Soviet Union was a power in decline, but there were still instances where things might have gone differently and WWIII would have seemed less like a very undesirable choice and more like the only one. We look at films like Red Dawn or novels like Red Storm Rising and think them quaint now, but at the time, the idea that the Soviet Union might push forward with another global war seemed less like conjecture and more like a matter of time.

165 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 9:54:54pm

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

So while by 1984 Ronald Reagan could indeed say "It's morning again in America!", in 1982 its was a case of things being darkest right before the dawn.

To me, that's like Paulinoids putting on a V for Vendetta mask and repeating slogans from the movie.

Hollywood union bosses Great Communicators like Reagan have conditioned you well.

166 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:26:11pm

An old friend is now participating in "Occupy Orange County". She sent me a picture of herself with her sign.

It's a good sign--beautifully lettered, and correctly spelled--but for some reason the words "Occupy Orange County" just make me giggle.

Then again, why should the 99% have all the fun?

167 Lidane  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:27:44pm

Hola Lizards!

re: #150 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes...but...Guy Fawkes...Fawkes...wasn't exactly an anarchist.

Pfft. Who cares? The masks looked cool in V for Vendetta.

///

168 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:28:13pm

The future's never ours to see

169 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:29:20pm

re: #166 SanFranciscoZionist

I went to Occupy OKC last night to meet a friend.

I'm basically on the same page as they are domestically in the short run. However, foreign policy-wise, I'm far more hawkish. Though I do agree with the idea of many bases being shut down. (Why do we need bases in Germany?) There needs to be a BIG realignment of bases for today's realities.

Long view, I tend to have interesting ideas.

They were very clean. Apparently, the loudest people there have been promoting this for good image purposes. One was apparently yelling at people earlier in the day because winds and rain did a number to the site the night before.

170 Lidane  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:29:24pm

re: #153 Dark_Falcon

But wouldn't do-as-you-please tend more towards Ayn Rand's Objectivism?

Only if that do-as-you-please doesn't involve religion, helping people for any altruistic reason, or being anything other than a selfish douchebag.

171 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:38:34pm

re: #166 SanFranciscoZionist

Somehow that sounds like "Reno 911."

172 Kragar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:41:14pm

re: #166 SanFranciscoZionist

An old friend is now participating in "Occupy Orange County". She sent me a picture of herself with her sign.

It's a good sign--beautifully lettered, and correctly spelled--but for some reason the words "Occupy Orange County" just make me giggle.

Then again, why should the 99% have all the fun?

Any relation to the Orange County Liberation Front?

Image: 699px-Ted.png

173 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:44:07pm

This is really, really going to sound like bad parody, but I think it's for real.

Ready?

The Complete Guide to JesusWeen

That just sounds wrong.

174 Kragar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:50:23pm

re: #173 makeitstop

This is really, really going to sound like bad parody, but I think it's for real.

Ready?

The Complete Guide to JesusWeen

That just sounds wrong.

Because it is wrong.

175 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:58:29pm

re: #174 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Because it is wrong.

Intentions and ideology aside - if they want this thing to go anywhere, a new name is a top priority.

176 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 10:59:54pm

Saw my favorite (in advance) costume tonight.

Dude wearing a "Guy Fawkes" mask.

T-shirt read?

#OCCUPY HALLOWEEN.

177 Kragar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:00:07pm

re: #175 makeitstop

Intentions and ideology aside - if they want this thing to go anywhere, a new name is a top priority.

"Every day is Jesus-apalooza!"

179 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:03:40pm

re: #177 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Every day is Jesus-apalooza!"

Wait, I know.... 'Christmas!'

/

180 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:04:32pm
181 Kragar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:05:07pm

re: #179 makeitstop

Wait, I know... 'Christmas!'

/

Too Catholic.

182 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:06:06pm

And shit is going on in Denver.

Oh joy.

183 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:06:47pm

re: #178 Amory Blaine

Obama, First Lady Hand Out Halloween Candy At White House

Wingnut Headline:

Obama Indoctinates Americas Children Into Socialism

ZOMG, redistribution of candy wealth!!11!

184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:07:16pm

re: #182 ProLifeLiberal

Shit goes on everywhere. All the time.

Specifically?

185 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:08:34pm

re: #180 prairiefire

So much fun.

As the overwhelmed children stagger past the President.

Can anybody reccomend a good Terry Pratchett book to start with?

186 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:08:35pm

re: #184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

OWS and Police being unfriendly in a thumpy-thumpy way.

187 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:09:25pm

re: #186 ProLifeLiberal

OWS and Police being unfriendly in a thumpy-thumpy way.

Somebody wake KT.

/

188 Kragar  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:10:57pm

re: #187 makeitstop

Somebody wake KT.

/

"These protestor keeps smacking their heads against our night sticks and are using magnets to pull our teargas grenades to them!"

189 Lidane  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:11:35pm

re: #185 prairiefire

Can anybody reccomend a good Terry Pratchett book to start with?

The only book you need, IMO. Co-written with Neil Gaiman:

Good Omens: The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch

It's impossible to go wrong with it. One of the few books I re-read from time to time.

190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:11:36pm

re: #178 Amory Blaine

I'd brag about being a kid that the "fuckin' president of the united fuckin' states" handed candy to on Halloween for the rest of my existence on Earth.

191 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:13:57pm

re: #189 Lidane

The only book you need, IMO. Co-written with Neil Gaiman:

Good Omens: The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch

It's impossible to go wrong with it. One of the few books I re-read from time to time.

Thanks! I follow Neil Gaiman on Facebook. I will try that one.

192 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:14:28pm

re: #186 ProLifeLiberal

OWS and Police being unfriendly in a thumpy-thumpy way.

Thumpity thump thump
Thumpity thump thump
Watch Protester go...
-Walter "Blackjack" Rollins

193 freetoken  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:27:43pm

For the Saturday late night LGF crowd only, a special presentation - Sviridov's Music to the Play "Czar Fyodor Ioannovich", all three choruses (Prayer, Sacred Love, and A Verse of Repentance). It's on my very short list of really, really good music and joins a couple of other pieces I've posted here over the years as an entrant into my personal Most Beautiful Music competition:

194 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:33:51pm

How to scare a Liberal to death

Nothing offends liberals more than colonialism. It is, in their eyes, racism, sexism, and chauvinism all in one; it is the forcible imposition of Christianity and capitalism; it is the epitome of Western triumphalism. It is everything that leftists profess to hate.

So, what better costumes to don for Halloween than those of great British imperialists throughout the centuries? After all, the Spanish considered Sir Francis Drake something of a monster (they called him “the Dragon”), Sir Richard Francis Burton “prided himself,” as the Earl of Dunraven noted, “on looking something like Satan — as indeed, he did,” and the British Empire actually got its start with piracy.

Sounds like jolly fun.
/

195 HappyWarrior  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:36:34pm

re: #194 makeitstop

How to scare a Liberal to death

Sounds like jolly fun.
/

I don't know what's more sad that the National Review seems to think colonialism is great or that they care more abotu pissing liberals off on Halloween than actually enjoying the holiday. I mean I don't like conservatism but my life isn't invested in thinking "Gee how can I piss conservatives off today?" For my money, I think Francis Drake would be an unique costume but the problem of him not being a household name. I seriously myself thought about going as The Dude tonight but I own no bathrobe and I didn't want to freeze on a weird day in DC where it actaully

196 freetoken  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:37:29pm

re: #193 freetoken

I don't know why the flash mp3 player cuts off the end. Hmmm... will have to investigate.

197 Lidane  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:39:09pm

re: #194 makeitstop

How to scare a Liberal to death

Personally, I'd be more afraid of a National Review writer showing that they have a sense of humor, or a sense of irony.

198 HappyWarrior  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:42:09pm

Coolest costume I saw tonight for what it's worth was a guy dressed as Brian from FAmily Guy on the Metro. I and some other passengers asked him if he was going to use "Whose leg do you have to hump to get a dry martini around here?" as a pickup line. I wonder if that worked. Encountered a group of people whom I assume were Occupy D.C people dressed as Sesame Street characters in Adams-Morgan. Their signs had references.

199 freetoken  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:43:31pm

Should be good now... the mp3 was broken.

200 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:44:21pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

I don't know what's more sad that the National Review seems to think colonialism is great or that they care more abotu pissing liberals off on Halloween than actually enjoying the holiday. I mean I don't like conservatism but my life isn't invested in thinking "Gee how can I piss conservatives off today?" For my money, I think Francis Drake would be an unique costume but the problem of him not being a household name. I seriously myself thought about going as The Dude tonight but I own no bathrobe and I didn't want to freeze on a weird day in DC where it actaully

All conservatives have are their fantasies of everyone -- especially us liberals -- ever being afraid of them.

We weren't even afraid of them when they overtly wore their white sheets, why would we fear any of them, today?

Fact is, conservatives are afraid of us. It's why they label Obama an "anti-colonial", as if, even if he were, kicking out a repressive, murderous, invading force [i.e., them] is some kind of social ill. They are afraid of the world, their surroundings, and everyone in it. It's why they implement and hide behind things like colonialism, fascism, totalitarianism, authoritarianism, and states rights eliminationism, in the first place.

201 Lidane  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:45:26pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

I don't know what's more sad that the National Review seems to think colonialism is great or that they care more about pissing liberals off on Halloween than actually enjoying the holiday.

It's a real juvenile, pathetic mentality. No one under the age of 75 is going to care about dressing like Sir Francis Drake for anything, and folks under 30 will just shrug and tell you that you should have gone with Nathan Drake instead because at least that costume wouldn't make you look like a douche.

202 HappyWarrior  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:47:06pm

re: #200 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

All conservatives have are their fantasies of everyone -- especially us liberals -- ever being afraid of them.

We weren't even afraid of them when they overtly wore their white sheets, why would we fear any of them, today?

Fact is, conservatives are afraid of us. It's why they label Obama an "anti-colonial", as if, even if he were, kicking out a repressive, murderous, invading force [i.e., them] is some kind of social ill. They are afraid of the world, their surroundings, and everyone in it. It's why they implement and hide behind things like colonialism, fascism, totalitarianism, authoritarianism, and states rights eliminationism, in the first place.

Oh I know. I just think it's hilarious that a writer for the National Review feels the need to write an article about how to piss off liberals on Halloween. I'd find it equally lame if a writer from The Nation wrote a piece about how to piss off wingnuts. The anti colonial crap is so stupid considering our nation's history with the biggest colonial force this planet has ever seen and I laughed when Dinesh D'Sousa himself from India, the former jewel of said empire tried to make anti-colonialism into a bad thing.

203 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:53:56pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Oh I know. I just think it's hilarious that a writer for the National Review feels the need to write an article about how to piss off liberals on Halloween. I'd find it equally lame if a writer from The Nation wrote a piece about how to piss off wingnuts. The anti colonial crap is so stupid considering our nation's history with the biggest colonial force this planet has ever seen and I laughed when Dinesh D'Sousa himself from India, the former jewel of said empire tried to make anti-colonialism into a bad thing.

Yeah, I remember his initial forays into that self-hating nonsense. I still reference it, often.

It's along the same lines as the rest of the white conservative anti-minority agenda. The only minorities they like are the ones that validate their eliminationist history and behavior...sorry to go godwin, but a lot like the most virulent racist antisemites only like Jews who don't want to be Jewish anymore, and dumb bigots like Cynthia MkKlanny who in turn throw their lot in with literal neo-nazis.

Is there anyone so intractably self-loathing as a social conservative?

/rant

204 freetoken  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 1:00:19am
205 Winny Spencer  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 1:04:19am
206 Lidane  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 1:09:07am

re: #205 Winny Spencer

ROFL, no. Keep dreaming. Things might slow down on the East Coast, but it's not the end of anything just yet.

207 Lidane  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 1:11:56am

George Will clearly has no love for Mitt Romney:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Romney, supposedly the Republican most electable next November, is a recidivist reviser of his principles who is not only becoming less electable; he might damage GOP chances of capturing the Senate. Republican successes down the ticket will depend on the energies of the Tea Party and other conservatives, who will be deflated by a nominee whose blurry profile in caution communicates only calculated trimming.

Republicans may have found their Michael Dukakis, a technocratic Massachusetts governor who takes his bearings from “data” (although there is precious little to support Romney’s idea that in-state college tuition for children of illegal immigrants is a powerful magnet for such immigrants) and who believes elections should be about (in Dukakis’s words) “competence,” not “ideology.” But what would President Romney competently do when not pondering ethanol subsidies that he forthrightly says should stop sometime before “forever”? Has conservatism come so far, surmounting so many obstacles, to settle, at a moment of economic crisis, for this?

208 boxhead  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 1:18:58am

re: #194 makeitstop

How to scare a Liberal to death

So, what better costumes to don for Halloween than those of great British imperialists throughout the centuries?

Sounds like jolly fun.
/

So the GOP wants to dress up like the British to scare other Americans... LOL

209 Kragar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 1:22:47am

re: #208 boxhead

So the GOP wants to dress up like the British to scare other Americans... LOL

If they plan on soccer hooligan, they've got the attitude right

210 researchok  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 1:36:20am

Morning, all

211 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 2:15:07am

re: #194 makeitstop

What is "wrong" with a person who is offended by colonialism? What was the American revolution about, if not throwing off the bonds of colonial rule?

I used to be able to appreciate conservative thinking when it was on a some sort of sound intellectual foundation, but that foundation has all but crumbled away.

212 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 2:20:08am

re: #173 makeitstop

This is really, really going to sound like bad parody, but I think it's for real.

Ready?

The Complete Guide to JesusWeen

That just sounds wrong.

These people cannot grasp the concept of secualr anything.

I assume this is because they feel compelled to wear their religion on their sleeve and shove it in people's faces all day, every day.

They do not grasp that the secular aspects of Christmans and even Easter have long since come to overshadow their religious significance and somehow feel threatened by it.

213 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 2:48:00am

Morning all!

Anyone awake?

214 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 2:57:11am

15 people listed on line, I assume many have just gone to bed and forgot to log off...

215 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 2:58:12am

re: #214 ralphieboy

15 people listed on line, I assume many have just gone to bed and forgot to log off...

Yeah, or are playing some game and forgot about us . .

:0

How are you?

216 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 2:58:49am

re: #34 Charles

Yes, you can open or close a Page with that option. No problem re-opening.

Heh. There's a couple of mine that are hidden that I cannot reopen. I guess they got tossed by moderators. No idea why, though. Maybe I deleted them myself?:

233237 hidden parliamentfights -- watching parliaments fights worldwide Blogosphere 2010-12-22 10:05:07 0 222 0
233221 hidden Deutsche Bank Pays $553.6 Million Fine in Tax Scam US News 2010-12-22 06:57:03 0 4 0
233220 hidden CIA Launches Task Force to Assess Impact of U.S. Cables' Exposure by WikiLeaks US News

217 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 2:59:50am

re: #215 ggt

Yeah, or are playing some game and forgot about us . .

:0

How are you?

Rainy morning in Germany. Need to get out for a walk and air out the brain cells.

218 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 3:01:13am

re: #217 ralphieboy

Rainy morning in Germany. Need to get out for a walk and air out the brain cells.

Guess you could wash them while you are out walking?

219 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 3:19:02am

Obdicut, in reply to this post of yours, have you seen this?

220 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 3:24:06am

re: #218 ggt

Guess you could wash them while you are out walking?

then they just get soggy and soft again...

221 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 3:27:10am

re: #220 ralphieboy

then they just get soggy and soft again...

Well, better than dried and hard --no?

222 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 3:28:14am

I think I may be able to sleep again.

I'm really hatin' this aging/hormone disruption thing.

Totally messin' with my illusion of control of my life.

Have a great morning all!

223 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 3:28:57am

re: #221 ggt

Well, better than dried and hard --no?

no, I need hard brains to stand up to the beating they take all week

224 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 3:42:32am

re: #219 000G

It seems like the EU is trying to count something that's carbon neutral as a carbon sink, which is dumb.

This matches exactly with what I was saying-- using crops on arable land is idiotic. Using plants on non-arable lands is a good idea. Using algae or bacteria would be even better.

"If you really want sustainable biofuels, you should look to move bioenergy crops away from prime agricultural land into unused degraded land that is not so fertile," Nusa Urbancic, a spokesperson for the environmental group Transport and Environment, told EurActiv.

Exactly. Get bamboo, kudzu, switchgrass or some other fast-growing plant that can thrive in poor soil conditions. It'll still just be carbon neutral, rather than a carbon sink, but since we're not going to magically transform from fuel overnight, it'd be a good thing.

The use of crop-based biofuel is and always has been dumb.

225 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 3:45:03am

re: #224 Obdicut

it sounds like a solution, and that is good marketing/politics

226 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 3:51:14am

Morning Honcos.

227 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 3:57:11am

re: #224 Obdicut

I posted this the other day in regards to algae. It was sent to me in a weekly newsletter from my Secretary of Agriculture.
[Link: www.startribune.com...]

228 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:01:35am

re: #227 Cannadian Club Akbar

Shows exactly why heavy government spending is needed. The private market is not going to invest in that as long as the price of oil and coal is artificially low.

229 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:01:41am

I'm the slime...look at me go!

230 laZardo  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:06:30am

Evening folks.

Currently in Taipei Airport, waiting for my flight back to Seattle. How yall?

231 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:09:43am

Morning Peeps!

232 laZardo  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:10:30am

re: #231 RogueOne

Morning Peeps!

word.

0:

233 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:10:45am

re: #230 laZardo

Evening folks.

Currently in Taipei Airport, waiting for my flight back to Seattle. How yall?

You need to make up your mind! How long of a flight?

234 laZardo  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:13:20am

re: #233 RogueOne

Well, I finished graduating so now I'm on my way back from Manila. O:

Gonna be a 12-ish hour flight, but I'm still halfway through the layover. @_@

235 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:16:42am

I won't bore you with asking you to watch this video. Just the first 20 seconds. The defender lead with his helmet then pounded his chest after the cheap shot because he's an idiot. After being ejected, he was throwing a fit like a little bitch. I hope they suspend him for the rest of the season.
And oh yea, you have to give the receiver room to catch the ball.

236 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:22:08am

soccer is a sport for genlemen polayed by hooligans
rugby is a sport for hooligans played by gentlemen
football is all thuggery.

237 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:27:25am

re: #236 ralphieboy

soccer is a sport for genlemen polayed by hooligans
rugby is a sport for hooligans played by gentlemen
football is all thuggery.

I'll agree with the first 2 lines, but not the last. Pro football has its cheap shot moments but is much more disciplined than college. College football is to pro football what single A ball is to major league baseball.

238 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:31:57am

re: #236 ralphieboy

soccer is a sport for genlemen polayed by hooligans
rugby is a sport for hooligans played by gentlemen
football is all thuggery.

Wrong as hell. Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, two of the best sportsmen ever to play any game.

Every sport has its assholes.

239 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:34:00am

re: #236 ralphieboy

Tell me this is gentlemanly

Forearm smash to the throat. You can kill someone that way.

And he gets away with it.

240 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:37:13am

re: #239 Obdicut

When I was a kid I clothes lined my best friend like that. He was much bigger than me. I ran and jumped into one of my parents cars and locked the door. My friend was saying "unlock the door. I'm not mad". Uh, huh. We were like 10ish.

241 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:39:37am

re: #240 Cannadian Club Akbar

The dangerous thing about a bruised larynx is that it can continue to swell up. So you can be okay immediately after the hit, but ten minutes later find yourself choking as the swelling cuts of your airway.

242 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:44:44am

Two worst sensations from my boxing career-- getting hit right on the liver, and an elbow to the throat-- Muay Thai, so allowed.

Liver shots make you feel very, very weird. There's no way to really explain how it feels. Your body tries to just lock up afterwards.

243 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:49:06am

re: #242 Obdicut

See, my liver is nice and hard so I have protection.
///

244 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:51:55am
for the nonce…

"I'll take 'Arcane Language' for 500, Alex."

245 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:55:37am

re: #244 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Quotha, certes you thole mickle old words used swoopstake?

246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:56:11am

re: #242 Obdicut

Fuckin' "ow."

247 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 4:57:52am

re: #237 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'll agree with the first 2 lines, but not the last. Pro football has its cheap shot moments but is much more disciplined than college. College football is to pro football what single A ball is to major league baseball.

Will have to take your word on that, have not followed professional (or college) football in years.

248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:00:15am

Last night was at a halloween thing at a bar where all the girls dressed up as "Sexy (insert whatever right here)".

Here was the best one.

My opinion counts dang it!

249 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:03:10am

re: #248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Last night was at a halloween thing at a bar where all the girls dressed up as "Sexy (insert whatever right here)".

Here was the best one.

My opinion counts dang it!

That's a chick?

250 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:09:31am

The Most Inappropriate Halloween Costumes Possible
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

251 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:10:33am

re: #246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My dad is a medievalist, so I can actually read middle english.

LIke:

In a somer sesun, whon softe was the sonne,
I schop me into a shroud, as I a scheep were;
In habite as an hermite unholy of werkes
Wente I wyde in this world wondres to here;
Bote in a Mayes morwnynge on Malverne hulles
Me bifel a ferly, of fairie, me-thoughte.

Fun fact: In Middle English, "Knight" was pronounced "Ka-nick-ta". Most silent K words had the K pronounced.

And words that have 'an' in front of them used to have the n on the word. So, an orange used to be a norange.

252 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:20:22am

re: #251 Obdicut

My dad is a medievalist, so I can actually read middle english.

LIke:

In a somer sesun, whon softe was the sonne,
I schop me into a shroud, as I a scheep were;
In habite as an hermite unholy of werkes
Wente I wyde in this world wondres to here;
Bote in a Mayes morwnynge on Malverne hulles
Me bifel a ferly, of fairie, me-thoughte.

Fun fact: In Middle English, "Knight" was pronounced "Ka-nick-ta". Most silent K words had the K pronounced.

And words that have 'an' in front of them used to have the n on the word. So, an orange used to be a norange.

So the French dudes in Holy Grail got it right?
//

Also, Good Morning Honcos!!

253 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:20:56am

That White House statement on Marijuana prohibition (see last thread) is so mind-numbingly stupid, I ponder doing a page about it.

254 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:24:27am

re: #253 000G

That White House statement on Marihuana prohibition (see last thread) is so mind-numbingly stupid, I ponder doing a page about it.

I would try to find some quotes from some of the Republican candidates and add them in for some balance. I think the only person I've seen that talks about legalization is Gary Johnson. (although I could be wrong)

255 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:26:25am

Maher: Gadhafi sodomy video suggests homosexuality has become sexuality in Islamic culture
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

HBO host Bill Maher has been no friend of religion over the years. But unlike many of the secular left in America, his attacks haven’t been just on Christianity, but he’s been critical of Islam as well.
.....
“Alright, let me ask you this because I alluded to it during the monologue and I’m not going to show the footage,” he said. “We could but we’re talking about the fact that as soon as they caught Gadhafi they stuck something up his ass.”

Based on that and how that particular culture strictly interprets Shariah law in the treatment of women, Maher concluded that homosexuality has become sexuality.

“Now Groucho Marx said sometimes a cigar is just a cigar,” Maher continued. “And sometimes a stick up your ass is just a stick up your ass. But don’t these people have issues? I mean, when the first thing you do is stick something up the guy’s ass, I feel like it says something about you as a culture, the men in that culture. When you segregate the women and you cover them up and homosexuality becomes sexuality.”

256 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:27:18am

re: #254 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would try to find some quotes from some of the Republican candidates and add them in for some balance. I think the only person I've seen that talks about legalization is Gary Johnson. (although I could be wrong)

Him and Wrong Paul. Thanks for the suggestion on perspective.

I'll have to do it later, though. Maybe tomorrow.

257 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:28:04am

re: #254 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would try to find some quotes from some of the Republican candidates and add them in for some balance. I think the only person I've seen that talks about legalization is Gary Johnson. (although I could be wrong)

We met with a federal judge during our class trip to El Paso. Someone asked him his thoughts on legalizing mj. His biggest problem with legalizing was his experience with habitual users who just couldn't do anything with their lives and didn't care at all. His experience was that it really destroyed lives. I have no experience with it, so reserve judgement.

258 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:28:06am

re: #255 RogueOne

Maher is such an idiot when he tries to do sociology.

259 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:29:17am

re: #257 rwdflynavy

I know a bigtime loser who couldn't do shit with his life and smoked lots of weed. Then he quit weed. He was still a useless bastard who couldn't do shit with his life.

260 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:29:24am

re: #254 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would try to find some quotes from some of the Republican candidates and add them in for some balance. I think the only person I've seen that talks about legalization is Gary Johnson. (although I could be wrong)

It's about the hypocrisy. Those guys aren't in charge and it was the WH that set up the "We The People" petition page.

261 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:31:30am

re: #259 Obdicut

I know a bigtime loser who couldn't do shit with his life and smoked lots of weed. Then he quit weed. He was still a useless bastard who couldn't do shit with his life.

Sometimes a cigar loser is just a cigar loser.

262 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:31:30am

re: #260 RogueOne

It's about the hypocrisy. Those guys aren't in charge and it was the WH that set up the "We The People" petition page.

True. But it is a question that is asked and if someone wants the big chair they need to have a position on it.

263 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:31:30am

re: #257 rwdflynavy

We met with a federal judge during our class trip to El Paso. Someone asked him his thoughts on legalizing mj. His biggest problem with legalizing was his experience with habitual users who just couldn't do anything with their lives and didn't care at all. His experience was that it really destroyed lives. I have no experience with it, so reserve judgement.

Isn't that a bit like a bartender being for alcohol prohibition because all the drunks they see at work?

Maybe the judge needs to get out of his courtroom a little.

264 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:32:30am

re: #263 RogueOne

Isn't that a bit like a bartender being for alcohol prohibition because all the drunks they see at work?

Maybe the judge needs to get out of his courtroom a little.

This judge started a charity for cons to try to get them back in the work force. It is from their that he draws his experience with drug users.

265 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:32:55am

re: #257 rwdflynavy


I support decriminalization. Not legalization. i.e., it will not be prosecuted if it is kept within certain limits. Strict regulations on access, especially to minors. Problem with legalization is that it will be co-opted by corporations, who will seek to maximize profits.

266 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:33:12am

re: #257 rwdflynavy

We met with a federal judge during our class trip to El Paso. Someone asked him his thoughts on legalizing mj. His biggest problem with legalizing was his experience with habitual users who just couldn't do anything with their lives and didn't care at all. His experience was that it really destroyed lives. I have no experience with it, so reserve judgement.

Someone has to work the fryers.

267 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:33:46am

re: #266 Cannadian Club Akbar

Someone has to work the fryers.

"Well, the world needs ditch diggers too!"/Judge Smails/

268 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:33:50am

re: #264 rwdflynavy

The judge isn't getting exposure, though, to all the highly successful pot smokers. Of which there are legion.

269 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:33:55am

re: #257 rwdflynavy

We met with a federal judge during our class trip to El Paso. Someone asked him his thoughts on legalizing mj. His biggest problem with legalizing was his experience with habitual users who just couldn't do anything with their lives and didn't care at all. His experience was that it really destroyed lives. I have no experience with it, so reserve judgement.

I can kind of see this but the same was (and of course still is) true of alcohol at some time. I really recommend Ken Burns' PBS documentation on prohibition: [Link: www.pbs.org...]

Insofar as drugs are a social problem, it's about people developing the right personal and cultural attitudes to drugs, not about government mandates for what you can or cannot use that never work out the way they are intended anyhow.

270 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:34:12am

re: #265 ralphieboy

The current people selling weed also seek to maximize profits.

271 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:34:48am

re: #267 rwdflynavy

"Well, the world needs ditch diggers too!"/Judge Smails/

That's what I was thinking but couldn't remember who said it!!!

272 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:34:50am

re: #263 RogueOne

Isn't that a bit like a bartender being for alcohol prohibition because all the drunks they see at work?

So in this scenario, the judge is a mj dealer?
//

273 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:36:16am

Pot is now legal, shares of Pepsico (owner of Taco Bell) soar!! Film at 11.
/

274 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:36:20am

re: #264 rwdflynavy

This judge started a charity for cons to try to get them back in the work force. It is from their that he draws his experience with drug users.

I think Alcohol/Drug abuse is a symptom of an underlying problem. Our current president managed to make something of himself while smoking weed. Our last president liked coke and alcohol, and no one will ever convince me that Clinton wasn't doing all 3 while banging 4 chicks during his college years.

275 laZardo  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:37:16am

Gotta check out of the transit hotel brb.

276 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:37:20am

re: #273 Cannadian Club Akbar

Pot is now legal, shares of Pepsico (owner of Taco Bell) soar!! Film at 11.
/

BUY DORITOS FUTURES!!!

277 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:38:19am

re: #270 Obdicut

The current people selling weed also seek to maximize profits.

I agree, but keeping illegal, just not presecutable might help prevent the situation we saw in california, where major "dope supermarkets" displaced all the legal dispensaries.

278 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:38:23am

re: #270 Obdicut

The current people selling weed also seek to maximize profits.

Aided by Obama's deportation policy. Ugly mixture.

279 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:39:00am

re: #268 Obdicut

The judge isn't getting exposure, though, to all the highly successful pot smokers. Of which there are legion.

No argument here. Like I said, I have zero experience and tend to think like most of you that it underlies other problems. Guys I kicked out of the Navy for drug use had problems that led to drug use, not the other way around.

280 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:40:15am

Man thinks about killing his entire family with an ax!! Decides he's to baked to get off the couch!! On the next Dr. Phil.

281 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:43:23am

A little song on topic by Nerdist Chris Hardwick and Mark Phirman.

NSFW lyrics

[Link: tindeck.com...]

282 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:43:36am

Drugs are bad! Marijuana leads to harder drugs!

Now if you'll excuse me I have to drink me some really strong coffee and smoke a cigarette because I was drinking 100 proof whiskey last night and we're flying across the Atlantic today and our commander is giving us some Go-Pills for the flight.

283 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:45:29am

re: #278 000G

Romney position on Marijuana

• Romney believes that the push to legalize marijuana for medical use is an effort by a committed few to try and get marijuana out into the public and ultimately legalize it.

• During his 2008 presidential bid Romney was asked about his stand on the legalizing of medical marijuana he replied thus, "I don't want marijuana to be used in our country. I'm not going to legalize marijuana."

• Mitt Romney strongly opposes the use of medicinal marijuana to cure illnesses. He says that there are many synthetic forms of this drug that are legal and that can be used for people who need it.

• He was reported to have turned his back on a patient who sought his advice on the use of medical marijuana since the synthetic marijuana did not help in his illness.

• Romney is reported not to have opposed the research of two universities that used high potency medical marijuana for their medical testing.
[Link: 2012.republican-candidates.org...]

284 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:46:47am

One of my fav old bands, Pennywise:

Lets Go Smoke Some Pot

285 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:47:26am

000G, here's some one stop shopping for ya.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

286 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:51:22am

re: #281 rwdflynavy

They did the song for Super High Me but it was a little to profane for the soundtrack.

287 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:54:22am

Occupy Nashville protesters' arrests catch legal flak
[Link: www.tennessean.com...]

The American Civil Liberties Union is working on a legal strategy to stop nightly arrests of Occupy Nashville protesters on the grounds that the state is violating their First Amendment rights.

The Tennessee chapter of the ACLU will ask the courts to bar enforcement of a newly imposed curfew on Legislative Plaza, where Occupy Nashville protesters have gathered for more than three weeks. A request for an injunction could be filed as soon as Monday.

While the legal teams maneuvered, protesters returned to Legislative Plaza to defy the state’s new curfew, which has led to nearly 50 arrests over two nights and countless man-hours for the Tennessee Highway Patrol. Both nights, a magistrate refused to approve troopers’ warrants and ordered the protesters released.

288 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:57:11am

re: #255 RogueOne

Gee. Maher goes stupid.

289 Winny Spencer  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:57:33am

I have never understood why anyone would want to smoke pot.

290 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:58:27am

re: #289 Winny Spencer

I have never understood why anyone would want to smoke pot.

FTFY.

291 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 5:58:59am

re: #289 Winny Spencer

Do you understand why anyone would want to drink?

292 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:00:33am

re: #289 Winny Spencer

I have never understood why anyone would want to smoke pot.

Honestly, doing a couple hits off a joint is the same as a glass of wine. Moderation is the key.

293 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:01:03am

re: #290 Sergey Romanov

FTFY.

Smoking has saved my life. If not for smoking I could easily choke someone on a daily basis.//

294 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:03:31am

re: #292 Cannadian Club Akbar

Honestly, doing a couple hits off a joint is the same as a glass of wine. Moderation is the key.

I would rather my employees smoke on their off time than drink. They may forget where they're going but they'll show up without a hangover and a nasty attitude.

295 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:03:36am

re: #293 RogueOne

Smoking has saved my life. If not for smoking I could easily choke someone on a daily basis.//

Just think of the lives you could save if you were smoking some Thai Stick.
/

296 Winny Spencer  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:04:38am

re: #291 Obdicut

Do you understand why anyone would want to drink?

No, I am teetotal.

297 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:04:44am

re: #294 RogueOne

I would rather my employees smoke on their off time than drink. They may forget where they're going but they'll show up without a hangover and a nasty attitude.

And they'll probably have donuts when they show up.:)

298 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:06:24am

re: #296 Winny Spencer

Do you understand why someone would go on a rollercoaster?

299 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:07:16am

re: #294 RogueOne

I would rather my employees smoke on their off time than drink. They may forget where they're going but they'll show up without a hangover and a nasty attitude.

I'll drink to that!

300 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:07:55am

I have never understood why anyone would want to drink 3-2 beer.

301 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:10:07am

re: #300 Gus 802

I have never understood why anyone would want to drink 3-2 beer.

I never understood why people like Jagermeister. Taste like shit and is only 70 proof.

302 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:11:12am

re: #301 Cannadian Club Akbar

I never understood why people like Jagermeister. Taste like shit and is only 70 proof.

What's wrong with Jagermeister? It tastes like a full-bodied spicy cough syrup.

//

303 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:12:04am

re: #296 Winny Spencer

No, I am teetotal.

Winny, forgive me if I'm prying, but are you by any chance a Mormon? I noticed you're sympathetic to them during discussions (as am I, though maybe from a different perspective). If so, you may have a different view on alcohol/tobacco etc. than the majority of the population.

304 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:12:25am

Medicinal alcohol is what put Walgreens on the map. This was during prohibition (i.e. Volstead Act).

305 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:12:34am

re: #302 Gus 802

What's wrong with Jagermeister? It tastes like a full-bodied spicy cough syrup.

//

I've done a shot called a "fireball". Cinnamon schnapps and Tabasco.

306 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:12:58am

re: #296 Winny Spencer

No, I am teetotal.

"Some of us are just born a drink or two behind the others."
--Tight Little Island, 1949

307 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:13:44am
308 Winny Spencer  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:13:53am

re: #298 Obdicut

Do you understand why someone would go on a rollercoaster?

Sure, I was once young and carefree. Are rollercoasters mind-altering and or hallucinogenic , however?

309 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:15:08am

re: #302 Gus 802

What's wrong with Jagermeister? It tastes like a full-bodied spicy cough syrup.

//

Vicks 44. I-dentical.

310 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:16:04am

re: #308 Winny Spencer

Sure, I was once young and carefree. Are rollercoasters mind-altering and or hallucinogenic , however?

If you're smoking hallucinogenic pot that's not pot.

311 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:17:00am

Boker tov, Lizardia!

The Conoco Phillips commercial fills me with rage every time that it goes on the air. I found a complete fisking of this miserable, misleading, lie-filled advert.

312 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:17:01am

re: #310 Gus 802

If you're smoking hallucinogenic pot that's not pot.

Pot laced with Angel Dust.

313 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:18:07am

If you are already screwed up mentally, or totally dissatisfied with yourself and your life, you are going to be even more messed up on any drug, legal or illegal.

314 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:18:39am

re: #312 Cannadian Club Akbar

Pot laced with Angel Dust.

Yep. Heck you can lace pot with Foie gras and have the City of Chicago after your ass.

//

315 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:19:19am

re: #310 Gus 802

If you're smoking hallucinogenic pot that's not pot.

I have a friend who went on a bad trip after smoking a laced joint. Halfway through smoking it the guy let him in on the gag. Ended up with a broken leg and never touched weed again.

316 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:19:23am

BBL, off to the swimming pool.

317 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:20:19am

re: #315 RogueOne

I have a friend who went on a bad trip after smoking a laced joint. Halfway through smoking it the guy let him in on the gag. Ended up with a broken leg and never touched weed again.

Did your friend beat the other guy's ass when his leg healed?

318 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:20:32am
319 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:22:50am

re: #317 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did your friend beat the other guy's ass when his leg healed?

We were having a field party, a rural thing. No one saw him climb up on the little bridge until he was just about to jump...too late! We did learn our lesson, no more tripping parties without at least one babysitter.

320 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:22:53am

OK, stupid question: has the majority of the US population smoked pot at one time or another?

321 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:24:24am

re: #320 Sergey Romanov

OK, stupid question: has the majority of the US population smoked pot at one time or another?

I think it's right around the 50% mark.

322 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:24:33am

re: #320 Sergey Romanov

OK, stupid question: has the majority of the US population smoked pot at one time or another?

At this point in time I think the answer is yes.

323 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:24:52am

re: #321 RogueOne

I think it's right around the 50% mark.

10% don't know.

//

324 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:25:28am

re: #320 Sergey Romanov

OK, stupid question: has the majority of the US population smoked pot at one time or another?

re: #321 RogueOne

I think it's right around the 50% mark.

If it hasn't, it soon will as the rye whisky herd thins out.

325 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:25:39am

re: #323 Gus 802

10% don't know remember.

//

FTFY

326 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:25:45am

Poll Question: Have you ever smoked marijuana?

50% Yes
40% No
10% Not sure

//

327 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:26:01am

re: #323 Gus 802

10% don't know.

//

It's like that old joke - 99 said "yes" and 1 lied.

328 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:26:17am

re: #324 Decatur Deb

re: #321 RogueOne

If it hasn't, it soon will as the rye whisky herd thins out.

WTF is that supposed to mean!!!
///

329 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:26:27am

re: #325 RogueOne

FTFY

"I'm not sure. I got really drunk that night."

//

330 Winny Spencer  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:26:36am

re: #303 Sergey Romanov

No problem.

I come from a family of lapsed Mormons but I remain sympathetic to the faith of my grandfathers and grandmothers.

That isn't the reason I don't drink, however. I am clinically depressed and drinking aggravates my depression and general anxiety.

If it were it would be profoundly hypocritical considering my caffeine addiction.

331 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:26:52am

I'm smoking right now so I'm getting a kick out of ..... wait, wrong site.

332 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:27:21am

re: #330 Winny Spencer

Thanks, Winny.

333 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:28:24am

My granddad died drunk and half blind (got a hold of some bad hooch during prohibition) and I have had a general aversion to any sort of alcoholic excess ever since.

But for that, I cannot keep good week about, I pounce on it like catnip.

334 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:28:33am
335 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:29:24am

re: #333 ralphieboy

Quickly! To the pencil!

//

336 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:30:02am

re: #334 Gus 802

Ugh. Sadly no surprises there. Hamas is, after all, an MB offshoot.

337 darthstar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:33:28am

Mornin' everyone...when the fuck is Daylight Savings? Isn't it supposed to be the last Sunday in October, or did they fuck up and move it again?

338 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:33:49am

re: #333 ralphieboy

My granddad died drunk and half blind (got a hold of some bad hooch during prohibition) and I have had a general aversion to any sort of alcoholic excess ever since.

But for that, I cannot keep good week about, I pounce on it like catnip.

An uncle got incapacitated-drunk and froze to death in the streets of Pittsburgh, and my binging guardian died of cirrhosis at 93. Booze has not been a problem, though I found pot dull and gave it up after a few months.

339 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:34:36am

re: #337 darthstar

Mornin' everyone...when the fuck is Daylight Savings? Isn't it supposed to be the last Sunday in October, or did they fuck up and move it again?

Get to church early, did you?

340 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:34:45am

re: #338 Decatur Deb

An uncle got incapacitated-drunk and froze to death in the streets of Pittsburgh, and my binging guardian died of cirrhosis at 93. Booze has not been a problem, though I found pot dull and gave it up after a few months.

I need to start drinking more!!
//

341 AK-47%  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:35:26am

re: #335 Gus 802

Quickly! To the pencil!

//

too late..colleague phoned...off for a walk in the vineyards. bbl

342 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:35:51am

re: #308 Winny Spencer

Sure, I was once young and carefree. Are rollercoasters mind-altering and or hallucinogenic , however?

Yes, they are mind-altering. Going on a rollercoaster floods your body with hormones and other mind-altering substances. The g-forces put stress on the heart.

343 darthstar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:36:00am

re: #339 Decatur Deb

Get to church early, did you?

Always...it pisses the priest off when he sees me in the front row.

344 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:36:22am

re: #340 rwdflynavy

I need to start drinking more!!
//

Without the drink, she would have buried us all. (After driving us to suicide.)

345 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:37:33am

re: #344 Decatur Deb

Without the drink, she would have buried us all. (After driving us to suicide.)

My Grandmother smoked and drank into her 70's. Passed away at 94.

346 darthstar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:39:45am

November 6. They did...they fucking moved it. Used to be the first Sunday in April and last Sunday in October. Now it's second Sunday in March and first Sunday in November. I remember the March change from a few years ago, but I always thought they didn't fuck with October.

347 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:39:49am

Gotta run lizards. Stay scaly and enjoy the day!

348 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:39:56am

Found Bill "270 million victims of Muslims" French's photo: Image: Portrait.jpg

Would you buy a used car from this guy? /

349 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:40:35am

re: #345 rwdflynavy

My Grandmother smoked and drank into her 70's. Passed away at 94.

Made some iron women in those days. The guardian (aunt) drank a Pgh version of a boilermaker in which the shot is dropped, glass and all, into the Iron City beer.

350 darthstar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:41:11am

re: #348 Sergey Romanov

Found Bill "270 million victims of Muslims" French's photo: Image: Portrait.jpg

Would you buy a used car from this guy? /

If I was an extra in a movie about a serial killer used car salesman.

351 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:42:12am

re: #338 Decatur Deb

An uncle got incapacitated-drunk and froze to death in the streets of Pittsburgh, and my binging guardian died of cirrhosis at 93. Booze has not been a problem, though I found pot dull and gave it up after a few months.

Months! See, I never did that. I find that if you don't smoke it for years and then smoke some it's a pretty cool feeling. The next day? It's not the same. The old "wake and bake" routine is something I never understood. To me that's like drinking all day. When I wake up I want to stay awake. Driving and smoking is dumb. As is going out to interact with strangers like going on an errand run is pretty weird. I think of it more like getting that occasional bottle of cognac.

352 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:42:35am

re: #350 darthstar

If I was an extra in a movie about a serial killer used car salesman.

The stache would enable him to star in 4chan production about a certain bear...

353 laZardo  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:43:03am

re: #326 Gus 802

I did once, secondhand.

Apparently my brother was tokin' it up in his room, which is directly below mine in my house in Manila. The smoke went right out his window and up into mine.

The kicker was that he only told me why I woke up that night with "cottonmouth" only last week.

354 darthstar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:44:06am

re: #352 Sergey Romanov

The stache would enable him to star in 4chan production about a certain bear...

Winny the Poo-eater?

355 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:44:21am

re: #351 Gus 802

Months! See, I never did that. I find that if you don't smoke it for years and then smoke some it's a pretty cool feeling. The next day? It's not the same. The old "wake and bake" routine is something I never understood. To me that's like drinking all day. When I wake up I want to stay awake. Driving and smoking is dumb. As is going out to interact with strangers like going on an errand run is pretty weird. I think of it more like getting that occasional bottle of cognac.

You might just be describing the effects of age and maturity on using. (I was pretty old when I tried it out of curiosity.)

356 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:44:35am

This is 3 years old but I'm having a hard time finding a more current survey. We're #1!:


An American Pastime: Smoking Pot
[Link: www.time.com...]

...the Dutch don't actually experiment with pot as much as one would expect. Despite tougher drug policies in the U.S., Americans were twice as likely to have tried marijuana than the Dutch, according to the survey. In fact, Americans were more likely to have tried marijuana or cocaine than people in any of the 16 other countries, including France, Spain, South Africa, Mexico and Colombia, that the survey covered.

Researchers found that 42% of people surveyed in the U.S. had tried marijuana at least once, and 16% had tried cocaine. About 20% of residents surveyed in the Netherlands, by contrast, reported having tried pot; in Asian countries, such as Japan and China, marijuana use was virtually "non-existent," the study found. New Zealand was the only other country to claim roughly the same percentage of pot smokers as the U.S., but no other nation came close to the proportion of Americans who reported trying cocaine.

The dutch.....wusses and coke gets shit done. USA, USA!

357 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:45:12am

re: #354 darthstar

Uh, no. Look it up on your own. ;)

358 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:45:34am

re: #356 RogueOne

This is 3 years old but I'm having a hard time finding a more current survey. We're #1!:

An American Pastime: Smoking Pot
[Link: www.time.com...]

The dutch...wusses and coke gets shit done. USA, USA!

Yep. Just ask Ollie North!

//

359 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:46:16am

re: #358 Gus 802

Yep. Just ask Ollie North!

//

The Contras, Cocaine, and Covert Operations

360 darthstar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:47:27am

re: #326 Gus 802

Poll Question: Have you ever smoked marijuana?

50% Yes
40% No
10% Not sure

//

It's all in how you phrase the question. If you'd asked "Have you ever smoked marijuana until you were so baked you couldn't walk?" Then my answer would have been...uh...Yes...many times. Though these days when someone offers it to me it's just a small hit to get that lovely taste and a mild buzz...I don't like being too stoned anymore.

361 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:47:57am

re: #356 RogueOne

I do coke so I can stay up longer and get more work done and make more money so I can buy coke to stay up longer and get more work done and make more money so I can buy coke to stay up longer....

362 darthstar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:48:37am

re: #357 Sergey Romanov

Uh, no. Look it up on your own. ;)

My internet doesn't get 4chan.

363 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:49:13am

re: #361 Cannadian Club Akbar

I do coke so I can stay up longer and get more work done and make more money so I can buy coke to stay up longer and get more work done and make more money so I can buy coke to stay up longer...

I do Coke because I can't stand Pepsi.

//Yeah, real original.

//

364 darthstar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:49:24am

re: #361 Cannadian Club Akbar

You don't "do coke"...coke does you.

365 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:49:26am

re: #358 Gus 802

Yep. Just ask Ollie North!

//

My RW friend named his dog "Fawn".

366 laZardo  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:50:01am

re: #362 darthstar

My internet doesn't get 4chan.

Does it get Encyclopedia Dramatica?

[that's how I found 4chan. There, I said it.]

367 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:50:16am

re: #365 Decatur Deb

My RW friend named his dog "Fawn".

Image: Fawn-Hall.jpg

368 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:51:06am

re: #367 Gus 802

Image: Fawn-Hall.jpg

Maybe the '80's weren't all that bad...

369 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:51:46am

re: #362 darthstar

My internet doesn't get 4chan.

You sure? I think it probably does, you just don't know it. Google "tubgirl" and click on "images". You'll see if you have the access.
/

do not actually do this

370 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:52:01am

re: #367 Gus 802

Image: Fawn-Hall.jpg

Civil Service "Misplaced Loyalty Award" winner.

371 laZardo  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:52:08am

re: #368 Cannadian Club Akbar

Maybe the '80's weren't all that bad...

in b4 Scarface references

/because we're talking about the yayo

372 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:52:37am

re: #366 laZardo

Does it get Encyclopedia Dramatica?

[that's how I found 4chan. There, I said it.]

Was this someting embarrassing?

373 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:53:15am

re: #361 Cannadian Club Akbar

I do coke so I can stay up longer and get more work done and make more money so I can buy coke to stay up longer and get more work done and make more money so I can buy coke to stay up longer...

I did an apartment complex renovation job out west with another company that had an entire crew of workers from south of the border. Those guys worked their asses off. You'd routinely see some 5'-3" guy carrying a 20' fiberglass extension ladder, fully extended, from one building to the next. It wasn't until much later that I found out they had gallon bags of coke in their rooms.

374 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:53:40am

re: #370 Decatur Deb

Civil Service "Misplaced Loyalty Award" winner.

And in a not so ironic twist:

Life after Iran-Contra

In 1991 she married Danny Sugerman, former manager of The Doors. The two were married until Sugerman's death in 2005. Hall underwent drug rehabilitation for an addiction to crack cocaine in the mid-1990s, it being reported at the time that Sugerman first exposed Hall to the drug.

Sugerman died of lung cancer so I'll assume it was due to smoking. Funny how life works.

375 laZardo  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:54:34am

re: #372 Sergey Romanov

Was this someting embarrassing?

Only because I was the guy that took the tags in the library computer lab when I found it. 0: Got fired for "too much laughing" on the job.

376 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:54:40am

re: #374 Gus 802

And in a not so ironic twist:

Sugerman died of lung cancer so I'll assume it was due to smoking. Funny how life works.

...

Danny Sugerman was a recovering heroin addict who found solace in Buddhism. He died on January 5, 2005 after a prolonged struggle with lung cancer, and was interred in the Westwood Village Memorial Park Cemetery in Los Angeles.

377 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:54:46am

re: #356 RogueOne

I remember how several LGF members started discussing their coke experiences. That was weird.

378 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:55:16am

re: #369 Sergey Romanov

I saw the description, not any pics. Um, gross.

379 laZardo  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:56:04am

re: #377 Sergey Romanov

I remember how several LGF members started discussing their coke experiences. That was weird.

Before the Great Flouncing, marijuana as sometimes referred to as the "holy leaf" here.

380 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:56:10am

re: #378 Cannadian Club Akbar

I saw the description, not any pics. Um, gross.

I would post "My Little Pony" or "SpongeBob" imitations/parodies, but even they're too far out there.

381 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:56:27am

re: #379 laZardo

Before the Great Flouncing, marijuana as sometimes referred to as the "holy leaf" here.

Why?

382 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:56:59am

I was reminded of this:

Hah, hah
Falling mountains just don't fall on me
Point on mister Buisnessman,
You can't dress like me.
Nobody knows what I'm talking about
I've got my own life to live
I'm the one that's gonna have to die
When it's time for me to die
So let me live my life the way I want to.

-- "If 6 was 9" by Jimi Hendrix

383 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:57:21am

re: #377 Sergey Romanov

I remember how several LGF members started discussing their coke experiences. That was weird.

I've tried everything at least once but I don't like most hard drugs including pharmaceuticals.

384 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:57:44am

Someone had to post this. So I will.

385 laZardo  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:57:50am

re: #381 Sergey Romanov

A lot of pre-flounce members also had their own 'experience' with it.

386 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:58:15am

re: #385 laZardo

A lot of pre-flounce members also had their own 'experience' with it.

Strange, for conservatives.

387 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:59:50am

re: #386 Sergey Romanov

Strange, for conservatives.

What's up man!

388 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:59:54am

re: #383 RogueOne

I've tried everything at least once but I don't like most hard drugs including pharmaceuticals.

I don't take anything except the occasional Advil if I really, really need it. But if TOOL comes in concert, I'll find some acid.

389 darthstar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:00:00am

re: #386 Sergey Romanov

Strange, for conservatives.

They just bought shake and leaves and got all reefer-madness after their first cough.

390 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:00:32am

re: #383 RogueOne

I've tried everything at least once but I don't like most hard drugs including pharmaceuticals.

I guess as someone who hasn't even smoked pot while in Amsterdam, I don't get fascination with even harder drugs. Dunno, what they do to your system seems yucky to me.

391 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:00:50am

re: #383 RogueOne

I've tried everything at least once but I don't like most hard drugs including pharmaceuticals.

I'll rarely take an aspirin, unless I'm throwing a kidney stone. Then I want the heaviest thing the nurse can get in the IV. All drugs use, however should be decriminalized and treated as a medical issue.

392 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:01:24am

Quick! Someone call Dan Rather!

//

393 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:02:06am

re: #392 Gus 802

Quck! Someone call Dan Rather!

//

He has been stoned. /

394 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:03:06am

re: #388 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don't take anything except the occasional Advil if I really, really need it. But if TOOL comes in concert, I'll find some acid.

I don't like pills at all, most pain meds make me hurl. My one weakness was acid, most everything else I tried once and never did it again. Heroin, real and hillbilly, was the worst. I don't know how people do that kind of stuff.

395 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:04:46am

re: #390 Sergey Romanov

I guess as someone who hasn't even smoked pot while in Amsterdam, I don't get fascination with even harder drugs. Dunno, what they do to your system seems yucky to me.

You don't know that you don't like something unless you've tried it!

396 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:05:49am

re: #395 RogueOne

You don't that you don't like something unless you've tried it!

Do you like cutting off your fingers for pleasure?

397 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:06:00am

re: #395 RogueOne

You don't that you don't like something unless you've tried it!

Mr Pencil is your friend.

398 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:07:20am

re: #396 Sergey Romanov

Do you like cutting off your fingers for pleasure?

No, but I have been cut and I know I didn't like it.

399 darthstar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:07:50am

re: #397 Decatur Deb

Mr Pencil is your friend.

Only for about two minutes, then he's all "Piss off, you're on your own. Learn to use preview."

400 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:09:31am

re: #399 darthstar

Only for about two minutes, then he's all "Piss off, you're on your own. Learn to use preview."

Nah. The chief lizard expanded the revision time to ten. Think of the wasted opportunities to show the world you're not illiterate.

401 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:09:47am

re: #398 RogueOne

No, but I have been cut and I know I didn't like it.

Try the whole finger at once, it's a different experience! /

402 darthstar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:10:39am

re: #400 Decatur Deb

Nah. The chief lizard expanded the revision time to ten. Think of the wasted opportunities to show the world you're not illiterate.

I'll be damned...he did stretch it to 10. Thanks, Charles!

403 darthstar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:10:58am

re: #401 Sergey Romanov

Try the whole finger at once, it's a different experience! /

That's what she said.

404 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:11:25am

re: #403 darthstar

damn:)

405 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:12:32am

Three dead, three missing after Kansas grain elevator blast
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

ATCHISON, Kan (Reuters) - Three people were dead and three missing after a grain elevator explosion, an Atchison, Kansas, Fire Department official said on Sunday.

The official, who did not want his name to be used, declined to give other details, but an earlier statement on the city's website described the 7 p.m. Saturday incident as "a large-scale explosion" at the Bartlett Grain elevator in Atchison.

"The percussion of the explosion could be felt at least three miles away," it said, adding that there was no threat to public safety.

406 darthstar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:13:29am

Okay...busy Sunday here...time to run the dogs, wake up the missus, go for a bike ride, and then pick up a cousin visiting in the city before taking them up to Napa where we booked a couple of private tastings for them...a little cave action...always a good thing.
Have a good day everyone.

407 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:19:57am

Two managers of a Domino's Pizza restaurant in Lake City, in north-central Florida, have been charged with burning down a rival Papa John's location. The motive? Police say one of the men admitted that he believed with his competitor out of the way, more pizza lovers would flock to his restaurant.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

This just in: Both places suck. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

408 laZardo  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:20:05am

While I wait for boarding, this is your brain on rainbows.

409 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:21:25am

re: #406 darthstar

Okay...busy Sunday here...time to run the dogs, wake up the missus, go for a bike ride, and then pick up a cousin visiting in the city before taking them up to Napa where we booked a couple of private tastings for them...a little cave action...always a good thing.
Have a good day everyone.

Why don't you stay in the cave, you liberal primitive?!1

Seriously though, have a great time. And do mention if there are any good white or sparkling wines I should look for.

410 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:25:08am
411 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:28:07am

re: #410 Gus 802

Suddenly had an appetite for...

I'll Be Home For Christmas by Bing Crosby

[Video]

I ran a video store in the mid '90's and had to run G rated stuff on the TVs. Around Christmas my favorite was "Babes in Toyland", the original, not the Keanu Reeves remake.

412 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:28:17am

re: #410 Gus 802

Suddenly had an appetite for...

I'll Be Home For Christmas by Bing Crosby

[Video]

Downding for playing a Christmas song before Halloween.

But I updinged your #392 to compensate.

413 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:31:07am

re: #412 Dark_Falcon

Downding for playing a Christmas song before Halloween.

But I updinged your #392 to compensate.

Odd yet interesting.

414 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:33:16am

re: #413 Gus 802

Odd yet interesting.

The comment, or the commentator?

415 laZardo  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:33:38am

re: #412 Dark_Falcon

Pfft. Back in the P.I., one can find caroling season starts near the end of August.

;p

416 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:34:38am

If you believed the stereotypes, you'd think that City Journal would pan the new movie about the financial industry's failure in 2008, Margin Call. But you'd be wrong.

BBL

417 laZardo  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:38:41am

welp

gonna board. see you in 13 hours.

418 HappyWarrior  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:40:32am

re: #410 Gus 802

Suddenly had an appetite for...

I'll Be Home For Christmas by Bing Crosby

[Video]

Sure as hell is feeling like Christmas weather wise here. Still a good crowd though in D.C last night and knowing how unpredictable the weather is here, it could be feeling like spring within the next two weeks.

419 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:43:01am

ICC hunt for Gaddafi son poses dilemma for Niger
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

NIAMEY/BEIJING (Reuters) - The prosecutor for the International Criminal Court (ICC) said on Sunday he has "substantial evidence" that Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, now on the run, had helped hire mercenaries to attack Libyan civilians protesting against his father's rule.

Saif al-Islam may be heading for Niger, which could upset Libya's new rulers and its own pro-Gaddafi Tuareg nomads if it hands him over to the ICC in line with its treaty obligations.

"We have a witness who explained how Saif was involved with the planning of the attacks against civilians, including in particular the hiring of core mercenaries from different countries and the transport of them, and also the financial aspects he was covering," ICC prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo told Reuters during a visit to Beijing.

420 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:44:22am

re: #417 laZardo

welp

gonna board. see you in 13 hours.

Safe flight

421 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:45:20am

Saudi prince backs cleric's bounty offer for Israeli soldier
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

DUBAI (Reuters) - A member of the Saudi royal family has pledged $900,000 to a bounty offered by a prominent cleric to any Palestinian who kidnaps an Israeli soldier, according to comments aired on a private TV station Saturday.

Prince Khaled bin Talal, a brother of Saudi billionnaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, told Daleel television over the phone that he decided to contribute to Awad al-Qarni's bounty after the Saudi cleric received death threats for offering $100,000 to capture an Israeli soldier.

"Dr Awad al-Qarni said he was offering $100,000 to only take a prisoner but they responded by offering $1 million to kill Awad al-Qarni," Prince Khaled said, according to a recording of the call published on Daleel's website.

"I tell Dr. Awad al-Qarni, 'I will be in solidarity with you and pay the remaining $900,000 to take an Israeli soldier prisoner so that other prisoners can be freed,'" he added.

422 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:45:24am

re: #418 HappyWarrior

Sure as hell is feeling like Christmas weather wise here. Still a good crowd though in D.C last night and knowing how unpredictable the weather is here, it could be feeling like spring within the next two weeks.

That same storm passed through Denver during the week. Power was out for about 6 hours. Kind of nasty since the heater died during that time and it's cold on this side of the house even with the heat on. Warmed up since and won't get back into another round of Winter-like weather until Wednesday. Anyway, most of the trees are bare now because of the freezing temperatures we've experienced thus far.

423 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:45:33am

Palestinian cease fire!
Islamic Jihad announces Gaza cease-fire
As usual...
IDF strikes Gaza cell attempting to launch rocket at Israel

One terrorist killed, another injured; attempted launch comes nearly 8 hours into reported cease fire with Islamic Jihad; IDF says it's not waiting for an Islamic Jihad decision, but rather preparing response plans.

424 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:47:28am

re: #423 Killgore Trout

comes nearly 8 hours into reported cease fire with Islamic Jihad

PROGRESS!!
/

425 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:47:40am
426 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:52:15am

re: #425 Cannadian Club Akbar

Holy Crap!! Look at these snow drifts!!!

We're all gonna die! Do they have an emergency response plan ready? Is FEMA there? Have they evacuated the area? What are the plans for rebuilding and will the Republicans block any funding for the recovery!!?

//

427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:52:26am

re: #248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Last night was at a halloween thing at a bar where all the girls dressed up as "Sexy (insert whatever right here)".

Here was the best one.

My opinion counts dang it!

Not the best "Sexy Costume", but the best costume, IMO. Not a Girl. Phrasing was bad.

428 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:54:00am

re: #427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not the best "Sexy Costume", but the best costume, IMO. Not a Girl. Phrasing was bad.

So ,,,, heavy drinking was involved right around the time of the #248 post!!

429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:56:03am

re: #428 sattv4u2

No. Maybe shoulda been...

430 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:03:11am

Hooray for drones!
Suspected US drones kill 6 in Pakistan

Suspected U.S. unmanned aircraft fired six missiles at a vehicle in Pakistan's tribal region near the Afghan border Sunday, killing six alleged militants, Pakistani intelligence officials said.

The high number of missiles used in the attack in the Datta Khel area of North Waziristan seemed to indicate an important militant was targeted. But the identities of those killed were as yet unknown, said the officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media.

431 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:04:29am

re: #430 Killgore Trout

But the identities of those killed were as yet unknown

What I was saying before

Nobody there wants to be known as "the #2 man"

Seems to lead to a short shelf life!

432 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:04:51am

re: #430 Killgore Trout

Technology! It works!

433 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:05:16am

re: #432 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Technology! It works!

So does profiling!!

:)

434 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:08:02am

Deus ex machina

A deus ex machina (play /ˈdeɪ.əs ɛks ˈmɑːkiːnə/ or /ˈdiːəs ɛks ˈmækɨnə/ day-əs eks mah-kee-nə;[1] Latin: "god out of the machine"; plural: dei ex machina) is a plot device whereby a seemingly inextricable problem is suddenly and abruptly solved with the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability, or object.

435 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:08:18am

re: #433 sattv4u2

So does profiling!!

Cop asked my son (after they had been rear-ended in MA last week by another car) if he and his dirty hippie buddies were heading to #Occupy Boston. They were not.

He didn't call them dirty hippies, I did.

436 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:09:09am

re: #435 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

if he and he and his

So cloning works? Yay!

437 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:09:42am

re: #433 sattv4u2

So does profiling!!

:)

States rights baby!

//

438 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:09:55am

dammit

One of the Transport Stream monitors that I have to use today for NFL isn't working properly

This is where someone would usually dial an on call tech for an emergency visit, but I happen to be that guy!!!

dammit

brb

439 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:11:29am

re: #437 Gus 802

States rights baby!

//

Is North Waziristan one of the 57 states??
//

440 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:11:34am

re: #432 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Technology! It works!

Damn. If it wasn't for LGF I would never have known that UAVs work.

441 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:12:09am

re: #436 Sergey Romanov

What?

442 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:12:27am

re: #438 sattv4u2

dammit

One of the Transport Stream monitors that I have to use today for NFL isn't working properly

This is where someone would usually dial an on call tech for an emergency visit, but I happen to be that guy!!!

dammit

brb

Tech Tip # 1

1) Unplug the device
2) count to 20
3) plug in the device
4) pray while it reboots
5) take credit for fixing it

443 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:12:37am

re: #436 Sergey Romanov

So cloning works? Yay!

*snicker*

444 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:12:47am

re: #439 sattv4u2

Is North Waziristan one of the 57 states??
//

I don't know. Apparently according to the Democrat Party!!11ty

//

445 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:13:24am

re: #440 Gus 802

UAVs

University of
Auburn
Virgins??

446 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:13:56am
447 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:14:24am

Police: Girl found dead after hide-and-seek game
[Link: www.seattlepi.com...]

PHOENIX (AP) — Police in Phoenix say the body of a 10-year-old girl was found in a small trunk that she apparently used for a game of hide-and-seek.

Authorities say it appeared the South Phoenix girl used the foot locker for the game Monday night with neighborhood children and some cousins. They say she possibly died of positional asphyxiation, suffocation or was somehow overcome and passed out inside the container.

Police spokesman Sgt. Trent Crump says her family found the girl outside a home Tuesday morning but could not revive her.

On the plus side 12 hours is the new neighborhood record.

448 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:15:18am

re: #442 sattv4u2

Tech Tip # 1

1) Unplug the device
2) count to 20
3) plug in the device
4) pray while it reboots
5) take credit for fixing it

6) If above fails, kick it.
7) If 6 fails, kick it again.
8) If 7 fails, kick it some more.
9) If 8 fails, call it a day.

449 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:15:42am

I'm getting all amped up now. Gonna have me some Freedom Toast for breakfast now.

450 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:16:43am

re: #449 Gus 802

I'm getting all amped up now. Gonna have me some Freedom Toast for breakfast now.

With Freedom Coffee?
And Freedom Sugar?
And save a pretzel for the gas jets!

451 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:17:02am

re: #449 Gus 802

I'm getting all amped up now. Gonna have me some Freedom Toast for breakfast now.

If you're planning on heading down to Occupy Denver make sure to wear a respirator.

452 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:17:25am

re: #449 Gus 802

I'm getting all amped up now. Gonna have me some Freedom Toast for breakfast now.

With some drone oil, ummmmm!

453 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:17:55am
454 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:18:13am

re: #448 Varek Raith

9) If 8 fails, call it a day.

The FCC kinda frowns on us having an unmanned facility transmitting RF signals 24/7

Some people just have no sense of humor!

455 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:18:57am

re: #450 Varek Raith

With Freedom Coffee?
And Freedom Sugar?
And save a pretzel for the gas jets!

Baseball Soccer, hot dogs arugula salad, organic apple pie and Chevrolet Toyata Prius.

It's the new tradition!

//

456 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:19:13am

re: #454 sattv4u2

9) If 8 fails, call it a day.

The FCC kinda frowns on us having an unmanned facility transmitting RF signals 24/7

Some people just have no sense of humor!

Simple.
Shut down the station!
;)

457 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:19:35am

re: #451 RogueOne

If you're planning on heading down to Occupy Denver make sure to wear a respirator.

The smell of Freedom ain't necessarily sweet, dude!/

458 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:19:53am

re: #455 Gus 802

Baseball Soccer, hot dogs arugula salad, organic apple pie and Chevrolet Toyata Prius.

It's the new tradition!

//

I have arugula on a chicken sandwich right now.
COMMIE!

459 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:20:39am

re: #452 Sergey Romanov

With some drone oil, ummm!

Freedom Toast...

Mmmm hmmm. (Slingblade voice)

460 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:22:51am
461 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:23:28am

re: #459 Gus 802

Freedom Toast...

Mmmm hmmm. (Slingblade voice)

With some terrierist's legs pate!

462 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:26:05am

re: #461 Sergey Romanov

With some terrierist's legs pate!

5 down. 130,000 to go.

//

463 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:26:23am

Tennessee judge orders Occupy Nashville protesters released

Twenty-nine protesters arrested in Nashville, Tennessee at 3 AM on Friday for refusing to comply with a newly-enacted city rule banning “overnight occupation” have been released after a judge refused to sign criminal trespassing warrants against them.

According to The Tennessean, Night Court Magistrate Tom Nelson explained in an email to Davidson County’s General Sessions judges that “he ordered all of the protesters released from custody because the state had not given the protesters adequate notice that it was changing the rules.”

Nashville Scene adds that Judge Nelson “has become something of a hero with the Occupy Nashville movement after dressing down the highway patrol for suddenly imposing the Capitol curfew and hauling the protesters to jail this morning.”

Nelson noted in his email that the protesters had been camping on Legislative Plaza for three weeks with no indication that this could be considered criminal activity, and that “fourteen hours is woefully inadequate time within which to allow the group an opportunity to comply with the newly enacted rules, regulations, curfew and permit requirements.’’

The commissioner for the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security had insisted earlier in the day that the protesters “were very aware that they were trespassing” and indicated that Republican Governor Bill Halsam had signed off on the arrests.

Tennessee Democratic Party Chairman Chip Forrester commented on these remarks by saying, “It’s not Governor Haslam’s right to decide which protesters are welcome on public property and which ones are not. Whether it’s Occupy Nashville or the Tea Party, the public has a constitutional right to address their feelings to the government on public land, which is the Legislative Plaza.”

464 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:27:41am

re: #462 Gus 802

5 down. 130,000 to go.

//

But at least you can enjoy Osalami Bin Laden.

465 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:28:24am

re: #464 Sergey Romanov

But at least you can enjoy Osalami Bin Laden.

Tastes like chicken Lebanon Bologna.

//

466 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:33:27am

re: #463 Varek Raith

Tennessee judge orders Occupy Nashville protesters released

The judge is obviously a red diaper doper baby.
-Michael Savage

467 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:34:41am

Yeehaw! Broncos play again today. Yep. The team that's know for last week's COMEBACK!™ in which they DEFEATED!™ the worst team in the NFL.

Should be exciting.

468 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:34:46am

re: #466 Cannadian Club Akbar

The judge is obviously a red diaper doper baby.
-Michael Savage

Manchurian anchor baby.

469 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:35:42am

re: #468 Sergey Romanov

Manchurian anchor baby.

I blame Benjamin Spock.

470 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:36:22am

re: #467 Gus 802

Yeehaw! Broncos play again today. Yep. The team that's know for last week's COMEBACK!™ in which they DEFEATED!™ the worst team in the NFL.

Should be exciting.

Tebow has Christ on his side, you fool.
/

471 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:36:36am

re: #469 Gus 802

I blame Benjamin Spock.

I blame Spock.

472 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:36:58am

re: #470 Cannadian Club Akbar

Tebow has Christ on his side, you fool.
/

Praise Jesus Tebow.

//

473 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:37:27am

re: #467 Gus 802

Yeehaw! Broncos play again today. Yep. The team that's know for last week's COMEBACK!™ in which they DEFEATED!™ the worst team in the NFL.

Should be exciting.

Lol.

474 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:37:35am

I also blame Manchurian anchor manufacturers. Can Obama drone them?

475 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:37:48am

re: #471 Sergey Romanov

I blame Spock.

I blame Leonard Nimoy and his pre-verted photography.

//

476 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:38:08am

re: #474 Sergey Romanov

I also blame Manchurian anchor manufacturers. Can Obama drone them?

I'll put the Pentagon on that pronto.

477 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:39:27am

re: #472 Gus 802

Praise Jesus Tebow.

//

All the cool kids are doing it:

Tim Tebow pose gets its own meme: Tebowing!
[Link: espn.go.com...]

Image: pg2_e_tebowing11_576.jpg

478 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:39:29am

Too much fluoride in Tennessee.

Obviously.

479 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:39:32am

I hate when I have to root for teams I hate.

480 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:40:06am

re: #476 Gus 802

I'll put that Pentagon on that pronto.

You have Pentagon ties?

Nau nau nau, meester Goos, ve hev sum sings tu diskas. Maj gavernment vil bee veri interested. Hau mach?

481 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:43:59am

re: #480 Sergey Romanov

You have Pentagon ties?

Nau nau nau, meester Goos, ve hev sum sings tu diskas. Maj gavernment vil bee veri interested. Hau mach?

Pentagon Ties
Navy Suspenders
Army Socks
Air Force Belts

482 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:46:55am

Gotta run. Enjoy football day people!

483 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:47:46am

Greetings all.

Ohh Ouch.
Gotta get to some aspirin and tea. Morning after Halloween Party.

484 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:48:08am

Thought I heard a steam train in the distance.

485 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:49:46am

re: #482 RogueOne

Gotta run. Enjoy football day people!

no

486 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:56:30am

Aha! I knew I wasn't hearing things.

@UP_Steam UP Steam
Moving onto the BN mainline in Denver now to head south.
23 minutes ago via web

487 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 8:59:25am

Well one more salient difference between TP and Occupy. Occupy is smarter by far.

488 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:07:31am
489 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:17:19am

re: #488 Gus 802

UP Steam Locomotive Tracking

Want a real rush, take a ride on this one!!

[Link: www.thecog.com...]

490 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:21:20am

Morning Lizardim. What's new in the land of the odd?

491 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:27:11am

re: #487 Rightwingconspirator

From the "suggested fliers" on that site is this....
Image: morerevolution.png

What's the chemical on the right?

492 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:28:01am

re: #491 Killgore Trout

From the "suggested fliers" on that site is this...
Image: morerevolution.png

What's the chemical on the right?

Alcohol.

493 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:32:27am

re: #492 thedopefishlives

Alcohol.

Close. It's protonated methanol

494 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:33:28am

re: #493 Killgore Trout

Close. It's protonated methanol

Pretty sure it's supposed to be ethanol, though it has been a while since organic chem.

495 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:35:46am

re: #491 Killgore Trout

Given the non violent nature of the protests, it's a call I can agree with. Less Party, as I agree partisanship is a significant factor in what's wrong, and a call for less drinking is not such a bad idea for those who would march and protest and occupy public areas. That bottle clearly shows a drinking reference. OLA has a conversation underway about refraining from pot smoking so as to be a better neighbor.

The very instant "Revolution" becomes anything but hyperbole for a non violent social protest I depart from any agreement with them. Less party in the partisans is a concept I fully agree with. Country before party.

496 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:36:31am

re: #494 thedopefishlives

Pretty sure it's supposed to be ethanol, though it has been a while since organic chem.

Ethanol. Two Carbon in the molecule.

497 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:40:25am

re: #496 oaktree

Ethanol. Two Carbon in the molecule.

I don't know why they pictured it in a soda bottle. Maybe they're just against chemicals in general and just used a random chemical structure for the graphic.

498 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:41:10am

re: #496 oaktree

Um, you guys see the bottle? Maybe they got the chemical expression a bit off. What is protonated methanol for anyway?

499 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:41:31am

re: #497 Killgore Trout

I don't know why they pictured it in a soda bottle. Maybe they're just against chemicals in general and just used a random chemical structure for the graphic.

I'm guessing they intended it to be a beer bottle or similar. Crude graphics don't lend themselves to subtle details.

500 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:41:39am

re: #497 Killgore Trout

I don't know why they pictured it in a soda bottle. Maybe they're just against chemicals in general and just used a random chemical structure for the graphic.

Or that's the universal symbol for rum and coke much like every galactic civilization has gin and tonics in some form.

501 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:42:11am

re: #500 oaktree

Or that's the universal symbol for rum and coke much like every galactic civilization has gin and tonics in some form.

Heh.

502 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:42:43am

re: #497 Killgore Trout

I don't know why they pictured it in a soda bottle. Maybe they're just against chemicals in general and just used a random chemical structure for the graphic.

Still pissed at "New Coke"!

503 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:44:35am

re: #500 oaktree

Or that's the universal symbol for rum and coke much like every galactic civilization has gin and tonics in some form.

504 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:45:03am

and a classic

505 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:47:05am

re: #173 makeitstop

This is really, really going to sound like bad parody, but I think it's for real.

Ready?

The Complete Guide to JesusWeen

That just sounds wrong.

Slacktivist has been talking about them.

506 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:48:42am

re: #495 Rightwingconspirator

Less party in the partisans is a concept I fully agree with. Country before party.

I remain pretty convinced there's nothing for me in OWS. Going to the extreme left of any reasonable political party may be non partisan but I don;t think it's in the best interest of the country. Although I agree with the general sentiment of income inequity and mega bank senanigans, I really don't share much with Marxists and anarchists. I don't think they have any solutions that I'm interested in.

507 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:50:09am

re: #175 makeitstop

Intentions and ideology aside - if they want this thing to go anywhere, a new name is a top priority.

Some churches that don't care for Halloween just call it a 'Harvest Festival' or something, but "Jesusween"?

508 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:50:25am

re: #506 Killgore Trout

You seem to actually follow the same philosophy as a lot of them, though. You said you didn't vote in the last election and might not vote in the next one. The ineffectiveness of OWS, to me, stems from their ideological non-voting standpoint. You seem to also be an ideological non-voter, no?

509 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:51:39am

re: #180 prairiefire

So much fun.

Yesterday I was on Cal-Train, and these college-aged kids got on. All in costume, and drinking out of open containers.

Just sittin' on Cal-Train, cracking open beers, and swigging from bottles of wine. It was a sight to behold.

510 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:51:50am

LMHO. OK time to run some errands. I'll be Bach!

Here's some Pat Boone for ya' until then.

511 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:52:15am

re: #507 SanFranciscoZionist

How it started:

In 2002, Pastor Paul requested 300 copies of New Testament pocket size Bibles from the Bible Society to use for personal evangelism. A few days before Halloween, a word came to him to give out bibles to everyone knocking at his door expecting candy. On that day over 40 bibles were given out without him stepping out of his house. All it took was putting a bible into every bag as they opened each bag with a smile. It was much easier than expected and since then God kept on talking to Pastor Paul about how to help Gods people make use of the “Go Ye” instruction every October 31st and on major public holidays.

Those poor kids.

[Link: jesusween.com...]

I have no idea if this really is the real start of it or what, but it's funny.

512 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:54:15am

re: #509 SanFranciscoZionist

Yesterday I was on Cal-Train, and these college-aged kids got on. All in costume, and drinking out of open containers.

Just sittin' on Cal-Train, cracking open beers, and swigging from bottles of wine. It was a sight to behold.

My trip out to the Hamptons awhile ago could have been used for an Occupy recruitment ad. Hordes of rich white financial types breaking out the Krug and the Heinekens. It was downright nasty. My wife nearly decked a dude after he tried to 'help' her with her suitcase and instead faceplanted in her cleavage.

513 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:56:38am

re: #195 HappyWarrior

I don't know what's more sad that the National Review seems to think colonialism is great or that they care more abotu pissing liberals off on Halloween than actually enjoying the holiday. I mean I don't like conservatism but my life isn't invested in thinking "Gee how can I piss conservatives off today?" For my money, I think Francis Drake would be an unique costume but the problem of him not being a household name. I seriously myself thought about going as The Dude tonight but I own no bathrobe and I didn't want to freeze on a weird day in DC where it actaully

Drake is more of a household name in California, I think, since he stopped along our coast.

Maybe Magellan, holding his head under his arm, a la Anne Boleyn?

514 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:57:10am

re: #512 Obdicut

My trip out to the Hamptons awhile ago could have been used for an Occupy recruitment ad. Hordes of rich white financial types breaking out the Krug and the Heinekens. It was downright nasty. My wife nearly decked a dude after he tried to 'help' her with her suitcase and instead faceplanted in her cleavage.

'Round these parts, that's an easy excuse for a thorough beatdown.

515 Renaissance_Man  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:58:02am

re: #494 thedopefishlives

Pretty sure it's supposed to be ethanol, though it has been a while since organic chem.

It's ethanol, just looks like an erroneous double bond at the C-O.

516 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:58:07am

re: #506 Killgore Trout

My take is the Marxists, communists, etc, are the proverbial flute in the orchestra. The decentralized nature seems to be a default state given they have no central personality or party to rally on. Nor has one been imposed from the Unions, or the DNC or the vaunted Soros.

517 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:58:59am

re: #510 Gus 802

LMHO. OK time to run some errands. I'll be Bach!

Here's some Pat Boone for ya' until then.

[Video]

Hmm. Do you really pronounce "Bach" as "back"?

518 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:59:32am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Oh I know. I just think it's hilarious that a writer for the National Review feels the need to write an article about how to piss off liberals on Halloween. I'd find it equally lame if a writer from The Nation wrote a piece about how to piss off wingnuts. The anti colonial crap is so stupid considering our nation's history with the biggest colonial force this planet has ever seen and I laughed when Dinesh D'Sousa himself from India, the former jewel of said empire tried to make anti-colonialism into a bad thing.

Yeah, I can just see this.

"Who are you?"

"I'm Margaret Sanger. I may look like I'm just wearing a Edwardian shirtwaist dress, but I am in fact MAKING CONSERVATIVES MAD."

"Conservatives at this party, you mean?"

"There are conservatives at this party?"

519 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:01:34am

It just occurred to me if you strip away all the left/right rhetorical imagery, Occupy is a consumer protest. Not really all that political, apart from hoping to reduce an obvious (to them) corporate imbalance in the system.
Has that occurred to anyone else around here?

520 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:01:46am

re: #508 Obdicut

You seem to actually follow the same philosophy as a lot of them, though. You said you didn't vote in the last election and might not vote in the next one. The ineffectiveness of OWS, to me, stems from their ideological non-voting standpoint. You seem to also be an ideological non-voter, no?

I found the anticonsumerist philosophy from the AdBusters guy very interesting. He has some interesting ideas but I serious doubts about his overall vision. I'm not really an ideological non voter. I'm more dismayed by the dimwitted radicalism on display on both sides of the political spectrum. Voters are lazy and poorly informed and we get the government we deserve. Practical real world solutions are shunned because they're boring and complicated, radical proposals and dangerous obstructionism are cheered.
I'm not an ideological non voter but I may end up as one. At least for the short term I don't see much chance of political solutions to our problems. Most of my energy these days is directed towards my personal responsibility and what I can do to insulate myself as much as possible from the random flailing of our nation and economy.

521 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:05:44am

re: #512 Obdicut

You might find this article on Occupy interesting. I added a bit of bold.
Excerpt
The Social Security Administration released data showing the earnings of 99 percent of Americans fell last year, while the collective earnings by the top 1 percent rose $120 billion. Those earning more than $1 million saw their income rise 22 percent from 2009. It seems that Americans read daily about record corporate profits and individual wealth reminiscent of the Gilded Age.

Even in the face of overwhelming statistics, opponents of OWS say these wealthy Americans create jobs and already pay their fair share. The conservative media machine criticizes OWS as inciting class warfare. Herman Cain tells us to work harder, ignoring that there is neither work, nor another industrialized country that works more. The right's message is a losing one.

Occupy Wall Street is succeeding because Americans relate to the movement's biggest goal: change.

Read more: [Link: www.timesunion.com...]

522 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:08:39am

re: #216 000G

Heh. There's a couple of mine that are hidden that I cannot reopen. I guess they got tossed by moderators. No idea why, though. Maybe I deleted them myself?:

233237 hidden parliamentfights -- watching parliaments fights worldwide Blogosphere 2010-12-22 10:05:07 0 222 0
233221 hidden Deutsche Bank Pays $553.6 Million Fine in Tax Scam US News 2010-12-22 06:57:03 0 4 0
233220 hidden CIA Launches Task Force to Assess Impact of U.S. Cables' Exposure by WikiLeaks US News

Yes, you hid those Pages yourself. The reason you entered for hiding the "parliament" Page was "old, dumb."

You couldn't reopen them because there was a bug -- it will work now.

523 blueraven  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:10:24am

re: #520 Killgore Trout

I found the anticonsumerist philosophy from the AdBusters guy very interesting. He has some interesting ideas but I serious doubts about his overall vision. I'm not really an ideological non voter. I'm more dismayed by the dimwitted radicalism on display on both sides of the political spectrum. Voters are lazy and poorly informed and we get the government we deserve. Practical real world solutions are shunned because they're boring and complicated, radical proposals and dangerous obstructionism are cheered.
I'm not an ideological non voter but I may end up as one. At least for the short term I don't see much chance of political solutions to our problems. Most of my energy these days is directed towards my personal responsibility and what I can do to insulate myself as much as possible from the random flailing of our nation and economy.

That sounds rather Randian.

524 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:11:34am

re: #212 ralphieboy

These people cannot grasp the concept of secualr anything.

I assume this is because they feel compelled to wear their religion on their sleeve and shove it in people's faces all day, every day.

They do not grasp that the secular aspects of Christmans and even Easter have long since come to overshadow their religious significance and somehow feel threatened by it.

I think of Halloween as a religious holiday, but that's the Catholic influence showing.

I also think of it as a secular holiday with a lot of candy and small children dressed as ladybugs.

525 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:13:00am

re: #248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Last night was at a halloween thing at a bar where all the girls dressed up as "Sexy (insert whatever right here)".

Here was the best one.

My opinion counts dang it!

That's not a sexy Guy Fawkes! He's fully clothed!

526 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:14:26am

re: #523 blueraven

Some may see it that way. I'm a practical sort and I'll take responsibility for the things I can control, there's not much else I can do about the rest.

527 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:14:28am

re: #251 Obdicut

My dad is a medievalist, so I can actually read middle english.

LIke:

In a somer sesun, whon softe was the sonne,
I schop me into a shroud, as I a scheep were;
In habite as an hermite unholy of werkes
Wente I wyde in this world wondres to here;
Bote in a Mayes morwnynge on Malverne hulles
Me bifel a ferly, of fairie, me-thoughte.

Fun fact: In Middle English, "Knight" was pronounced "Ka-nick-ta". Most silent K words had the K pronounced.

And words that have 'an' in front of them used to have the n on the word. So, an orange used to be a norange.

There's an SCA song called "The Knight Song", in which 'knight' is pronounced 'ka-n*****t'. And all the rhyming word similarly.

So, "I fought with main and migget".

528 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:16:26am

re: #522 Charles

I think I noticed a couple stats oddities. Like an older page that had 2+ but zero views. Perhaps it had +2 before I hid it at the time maybe?

Oh, and I get redirected when I look at a hidden page that I'm pretty sure was removed for cause-I messed up and left an email in it. #255779 I take that is as intended? It's kind of you not to have a deleted or removed category.

529 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:18:57am

re: #524 SanFranciscoZionist

I think of Halloween as a religious holiday, but that's the Catholic influence showing.

I also think of it as a secular holiday with a lot of candy and small children dressed as ladybugs.

I think you're thinking of All Saints Day, which is the day after Halloween

530 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:20:24am

re: #526 Killgore Trout

Some may see it that way. I'm a practical sort and I'll take responsibility for the things I can control, there's not much else I can do about the rest.

Thats why as I got older, I took a more active interest and part in local politics/ elections

531 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:20:25am

re: #255 RogueOne

Maher: Gadhafi sodomy video suggests homosexuality has become sexuality in Islamic culture
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Uh...sodomizing a man with a foreign object as a form of humiliation is a not-uncommon means of establishing dominance, being sadistic, or shaming your enemy. The NYPD has been accused of related acts over the years, and they're mostly not Muslims.

Saying that this shows that 'homosexuality has become sexuality' makes about as much sense as saying that wartime rapes of women reassure us that heterosexuality is still normative.

What completely ridiculous crap.

532 blueraven  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:22:12am

re: #526 Killgore Trout

Some may see it that way. I'm a practical sort and I'll take responsibility for the things I can control, there's not much else I can do about the rest.

Do you not believe that social and political activism can affect change?

I dont think accepting personal responsibility and protesting the inequalities in our system are mutually exclusive.

533 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:23:12am

Video of the incident in Denver (not my title)
Idiot At Occupy Denver Protest Pushes It Too Far... Literally

534 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:23:32am

re: #531 SanFranciscoZionist

Maher is also anti-vaccination. Don't expect much nuance from him.

535 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:26:18am

re: #532 blueraven

Do you not believe that social and political activism can affect change?

I dont think accepting personal responsibility and protesting the inequalities in our system are mutually exclusive.

Sure, change can come from smart and disciplined protests. I don't think OWS has much of a future in effecting any policy. They are protests for the sake of protesting.

536 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:26:34am

re: #529 sattv4u2

I think you're thinking of All Saints Day, which is the day after Halloween

It's beginning to look a lot like All Saints' Day
Eeeeevery where you go

537 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:27:15am

re: #310 Gus 802

If you're smoking hallucinogenic pot that's not pot.

The musical "Reefer Madness" has taught me that they had hallucinogenic pot in the 30s. One puff, and full-on singing and dancing technicolor hallucinations.

Now that stuff I might wanna try.

Modern pot does not do it for me.

538 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:29:09am

re: #537 SanFranciscoZionist

FASTER!

539 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:31:09am

re: #511 Obdicut

How it started:

Those poor kids.

[Link: jesusween.com...]

I have no idea if this really is the real start of it or what, but it's funny.

NOT so funny, taking all the fun out of a kid's Halloween. I swear I don't know what's wrong with people.

540 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:31:50am

re: #529 sattv4u2

I think you're thinking of All Saints Day, which is the day after Halloween

eggs-zactly.

541 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:32:34am

re: #533 Killgore Trout

Video of the incident in Denver (not my title)
Idiot At Occupy Denver Protest Pushes It Too Far... Literally

[Video]

You can see the expression on his face go from "YA,,, I ROCK" to "Ruh Roh" one second after the the bike tips over

542 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:33:22am

re: #539 reine.de.tout

When I was a kid, there would always be some jerk who gave us a toothbrush, or mouthwash, or soap or something instead of the candy. This guy strikes me as just a variation on the theme.

I miss old-school San Franciscan Halloween, where it was basically a great block party in the Castro. That was so much fun.

543 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:35:17am

I don't think Stonewall was very disciplined, but it did get the ball rolling.

544 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:36:52am

re: #528 Rightwingconspirator

I think I noticed a couple stats oddities. Like an older page that had 2+ but zero views. Perhaps it had +2 before I hid it at the time maybe?

The Views counter wasn't always there -- therefore, Pages that were created before the Views counter was implemented will show a much lower number.

Oh, and I get redirected when I look at a hidden page that I'm pretty sure was removed for cause-I messed up and left an email in it. #255779 I take that is as intended?

That's how it works -- trying to go to a hidden Page will redirect you to the LGF front page.

545 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:37:16am

re: #541 sattv4u2

You can see the expression on his face go from "YA,,, I ROCK" to "Ruh Roh" one second after the the bike tips over

I would think pushing over a moving motorcycle could be dangerous to the rider of said cycle. Why would anyone do that?

546 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:38:18am

re: #517 Sergey Romanov

Hmm. Do you really pronounce "Bach" as "back"?

No, but Arnold pronounces 'back' as "Bach". Or, "bock", but most Americans pronounce "Bach" as 'bock', so...

547 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:39:33am

re: #527 SanFranciscoZionist

There's an SCA song called "The Knight Song", in which 'knight' is pronounced 'ka-n*****t'. And all the rhyming word similarly.

So, "I fought with main and migget".

Uh, those stars were automatic.

That's hilarious.

548 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:39:57am

re: #546 SanFranciscoZionist

No, but Arnold pronounces 'back' as "Bach". Or, "bock", but most Americans pronounce "Bach" as 'bock', so...

*grrrr* ;)

549 blueraven  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:40:04am

re: #535 Killgore Trout

Sure, change can come from smart and disciplined protests. I don't think OWS has much of a future in effecting any policy. They are protests for the sake of protesting.

I think they already are affecting change. Looks like BofA is backing off their fee for ATM. I think the conversation has changed from the Taxed Enough Already screed of the T Party crowd, to the disparity of income between the top 1 percent and the rest of us.

It has brought attention to the crony capitalism that exists in both parties.

Our government is bought, by legal but nevertheless unscrupulous means.
The OWS movement, for all it's faults, might make these things a big issue in the next election

550 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:40:06am

re: #529 sattv4u2

I think you're thinking of All Saints Day, which is the day after Halloween

So All Hallows Eve is non-Catholic, but All Hallows IS Catholic?

551 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:40:38am

Remember the orange Unicef boxes???

552 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:41:50am

re: #545 reine.de.tout

I would think pushing over a moving motorcycle could be dangerous to the rider of said cycle. Why would anyone do that?

Entitlement. One of the Oakland protesters went on MSNBC and explained that they feel entitled to attack police with rocks and bottles and was pretty unashamed about it. She didn't feel there should be consequences from police response. It's a sadly common attitude.

553 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:43:06am

re: #550 SanFranciscoZionist

So All Hallows Eve is non-Catholic, but All Hallows IS Catholic?

Sorry, no,, what I meant by that is that "we" got a pass on the religious aspect of All Hallows EVE (Halloween) because the next day in school we were inundated to refresh our guilt during All Saints DAY!

"So Billy ,, just how much candy DID you eat last night!! You do know the Saints never gave in to those types of pleasures/ temptations"!!

554 recusancy  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:43:20am

re: #520 Killgore Trout

I found the anticonsumerist philosophy from the AdBusters guy very interesting. He has some interesting ideas but I serious doubts about his overall vision. I'm not really an ideological non voter. I'm more dismayed by the dimwitted radicalism on display on both sides of the political spectrum. Voters are lazy and poorly informed and we get the government we deserve. Practical real world solutions are shunned because they're boring and complicated, radical proposals and dangerous obstructionism are cheered.
I'm not an ideological non voter but I may end up as one. At least for the short term I don't see much chance of political solutions to our problems. Most of my energy these days is directed towards my personal responsibility and what I can do to insulate myself as much as possible from the random flailing of our nation and economy.

Do you think the democrats are radical and obstructionists? Because you're not voting for the adbusters guys. You're voting for the people who are actually on the ballot.

555 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:43:26am

re: #551 Stanley Sea

Remember the orange Unicef boxes???

Yup

556 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:43:37am

re: #539 reine.de.tout

NOT so funny, taking all the fun out of a kid's Halloween. I swear I don't know what's wrong with people.

Image: 0058_19.gif

Halloween, as told by Jack Chick

Boo!

The Devil's Night

Happy Halloween

557 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:48:41am

re: #552 Killgore Trout

Entitlement. One of the Oakland protesters went on MSNBC and explained that they feel entitled to attack police with rocks and bottles and was pretty unashamed about it. She didn't feel there should be consequences from police response. It's a sadly common attitude.

Brief rant: The Chronicle interviewed a couple of people who have small businesses in downtown Oakland, and are feeling the strain. I felt bad for them. Business is down, one of them got a broken window, people are urinating on the stoop. And they've had trouble every time there's been a big protest even before, so it's not like this is a novel development.

According to the reporter, while the lady who runs the African imports place was talking about how business had plummeted, a guy yelled at her that she would have lost her business anyway, with the economy being so lousy, and she started crying.

This just got me pissed, because I also recall a lady who had a hair-braiding business that got completely trashed by the protestors following the Mehserles sentencing. Justice--achieved through trashing the livelihood of a black Oaklander who never did anything to anyone.

If I get a chance in the next couple of days, I'm going to swing through downtown, and try to at least buy a coffee from some of the local businesses. This has been rough on them. I'd ask anyone who's in Oakland, OWSing or otherwise, to maybe do the same. This is not easy on them, no matter how they feel about the overall message of the protests.

558 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:50:32am

re: #553 sattv4u2

Sorry, no,, what I meant by that is that "we" got a pass on the religious aspect of All Hallows EVE (Halloween) because the next day in school we were inundated to refresh our guilt during All Saints DAY!

"So Billy ,, just how much candy DID you eat last night!! You do know the Saints never gave in to those types of pleasures/ temptations"!!

One of my friends went with her kid to an All Saints party at her church where each of the kids was supposed to dress up as a favorite Saint. Kind of tying the two aspects of the holiday together.

Her daughter was Terese of Lisieux, because she got to wear roses in her hair.

The boys apparently prefer martyrs. Gory, gory, martyrs.

559 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:51:27am

re: #557 SanFranciscoZionist

Brief rant: The Chronicle interviewed a couple of people who have small businesses in downtown Oakland, and are feeling the strain. I felt bad for them. Business is down, one of them got a broken window, people are urinating on the stoop. And they've had trouble every time there's been a big protest even before, so it's not like this is a novel development.

According to the reporter, while the lady who runs the African imports place was talking about how business had plummeted, a guy yelled at her that she would have lost her business anyway, with the economy being so lousy, and she started crying.

This just got me pissed, because I also recall a lady who had a hair-braiding business that got completely trashed by the protestors following the Mehserles sentencing. Justice--achieved through trashing the livelihood of a black Oaklander who never did anything to anyone.

If I get a chance in the next couple of days, I'm going to swing through downtown, and try to at least buy a coffee from some of the local businesses. This has been rough on them. I'd ask anyone who's in Oakland, OWSing or otherwise, to maybe do the same. This is not easy on them, no matter how they feel about the overall message of the protests.

The protests have been tough on surrounding business here in Portland too. I've brought it up here a couple times before but supporters are pretty dismissive.

560 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:56:48am

re: #559 Killgore Trout

The protests have been tough on surrounding business here in Portland too. I've brought it up here a couple times before but supporters are pretty dismissive.

I'm not sure if I would have reacted so strongly, except I remembered the braiding salon lady. I know that not everyone has the means to spend much, but for those who do, the Occupiers spending a little locally on small businesses and spreading some smiles would be both nice, economically just, and not turn everyone who works in the area off of them. Useful, especially when you want to declare a general strike.

And Michael Moore, if you're reading this, go directly to Sankofa African Arts, please, and buy the biggest, most expensive thing in the store, since I think you can probably afford it. This lady needs a little bail-out of her own right now.

561 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:57:46am

re: #558 SanFranciscoZionist

One of my friends went with her kid to an All Saints party at her church where each of the kids was supposed to dress up as a favorite Saint. Kind of tying the two aspects of the holiday together.

Her daughter was Terese of Lisieux, because she got to wear roses in her hair.

The boys apparently prefer martyrs. Gory, gory, martyrs.

LOL

Yup,,,, We had something similar when I was in grammar school. Come either dressed up or ready to make a presentation about your "favorite" saint

Well,,, seeing that mine was St Lawrence my mother was non too pleased (and didn;t allow me) to go to school "scarred" with burnt cork smeared on various parts of my body, depicting St Lawrence POST "grilled"!!

562 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:58:08am

Check this out

JoshHarkinson Josh Harkinson

Crowd of 1000 spells out "Tax the 1%" on a San Francisco beach:

Image: tax-the-1-percent-d.jpg

563 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:01:44am

re: #552 Killgore Trout

No, that's an incorrect statement of what she said. She was reasonably incoherent, but she acknowledged that rocks and bottles were thrown. She didn't say anything about being entitled to do so, and casting it in that light is dishonest. What she said was that the police response wasn't justified in light of it. On that, you're free to make up your own mind. But she did not say the protesters were entitled to throw rocks and bottles.

564 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:05:45am

re: #563 Obdicut

Occupy Oakland Protester admits bottles were thrown at Police BEFORE police responded

I watched it again. I'd don't think my interpretation is that outrageous. If you attack a police officer they will respond, it's just common sense.

565 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:06:01am

re: #561 sattv4u2

LOL

Yup,,, We had something similar when I was in grammar school. Come either dressed up or ready to make a presentation about your "favorite" saint

Well,,, seeing that mine was St Lawrence my mother was non too pleased (and didn;t allow me) to go to school "scarred" with burnt cork smeared on various parts of my body, depicting St Lawrence POST "grilled"!!

I'm sure I would have been Joan of Arc.

566 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:06:37am

re: #565 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sure I would have been Joan of Arc.

Cool

I still have some cork around somewhere

I can scorch it and we can share!

567 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:06:50am

re: #545 reine.de.tout

I would think pushing over a moving motorcycle could be dangerous to the rider of said cycle. Why would anyone do that?

Angry+stupid=In custody.

568 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:07:01am

re: #562 Stanley Sea

Check this out

JoshHarkinson Josh Harkinson

Crowd of 1000 spells out "Tax the 1%" on a San Francisco beach:

Image: tax-the-1-percent-d.jpg

Ocean Beach. Very tidy lettering.

The Tea Party would have misspelled it.

569 Kronocide  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:08:38am

re: #563 Obdicut

Here's the video.

570 Winny Spencer  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:10:09am

re: #564 Killgore Trout

Ugh, Lawrence O'Donnell.

571 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:11:14am

re: #563 Obdicut

But she did not say the protesters were entitled to throw rocks and bottles.

You are 100% correct

However, the tone in her voice and the look on her face 44 seconds in speaks volumes

572 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:11:49am

re: #564 Killgore Trout

By claiming that she said that protesters were entitled, rather than her acknowledging it happened, you're stretching the truth by a wide margin. I don't understand why, either.

I was with an unruly crowd in Times Square, New York in 1998. Bottles-- empty whiskey bottles as well as beer bottles-- were getting thrown at the police. I would have been pretty damn shocked if the cops had started teargassing the crowd on the strength of that.

I'm perfectly capable of both saying that the protesters throwing bottles and the cops' response were both out of line. I really don't have to choose between them.

And meanwhile, in Nashville the cops continue to arrest people despite the judge telling them that they're doing so illegally.

573 LadyBehir  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:12:03am

I don't know if this has been posted here before but there was a reference to Neil Gaiman upthread that reminded me - any of you participating in All Hallow's Read?

It's a neat idea. One random child at my door will get a Dr Seuss spooky book this year.

574 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:12:20am

re: #571 sattv4u2

But she did not say the protesters were entitled to throw rocks and bottles.

You are 100% correct

However, the tone in her voice and the look on her face 44 seconds in speaks volumes

Oh, sorry, I'm not psychic and a master psychologist like everyone else on the internet.

575 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:12:31am

Good afternoon from "climate change central," also known as greater Hartford, CT. It has been a harrowing last 24 hours, and things aren't getting better anytime soon. Soon I will take a walk (appx three quarters of a mile) to visit my car, which is in the middle of a closed off road with a tree on the hood and power lines in near proximity. It has been there since 5pm yesterday when I could not stop and I slid into the downed tree which I saw from 200-300 yards away. I'm glad I didn't crash hard into it or touch those downed lines. The only reason I am on line now is because I walked to a nearby Starbucks that was closed, stood outside their window praying their wi if signal was good (it was), and I bought a 3G plan for my iPad.

How are all of you?

576 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:13:20am

re: #575 _RememberTonyC

Tons of trees lost branches here in NYC, but they got cleaned up pretty quick. Now it's a pretty damn nice day.

577 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:16:45am

re: #574 Obdicut

She's very dismissive of admitting that the crowd was attaching police. Do you think Ghandi or MLK would have tolerated that attitude at their protests? The left has completely lost sight of what non violent civil disobedience is all about. This is how people get hurt. It also greatly diminishes their cause in my eyes.

578 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:17:49am

re: #576 Obdicut

Tons of trees lost branches here in NYC, but they got cleaned up pretty quick. Now it's a pretty damn nice day.

I have lived in New England for 50 years, but never seen damage like this. My house doesn't have many trees on the grounds, but my neighbors have downed trees that landed on my property. It is sunny now, but tonight will be in the 20's and we have no heat or electricity, so it is going to suck. And my car may be messed up even more with the tree on top of it.

579 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:18:00am

re: #577 Killgore Trout

She's very dismissive of admitting that the crowd was attaching police. Do you think Ghandi or MLK would have tolerated that attitude at their protests?

Nope. I don't think she's Ghandi or MLK. I can definitely assert that.

The left has completely lost sight of what non violent civil disobedience is all about. This is how people get hurt. It also greatly diminishes their cause in my eyes.

That you keep equating these protesters with 'the left' is just goddamn baffling.

580 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:18:10am

re: #574 Obdicut

Oh, sorry, I'm not psychic and a master psychologist like everyone else on the internet.

Guees i've been one since my early childhood

Even back then I could tell from peoples inflections, words and deeds what their intent was!

581 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:18:19am

re: #564 Killgore Trout

Occupy Oakland Protester admits bottles were thrown at Police BEFORE police responded

[Video]I watched it again. I'd don't think my interpretation is that outrageous. If you attack a police officer they will respond, it's just common sense.

What kills me here is the hyperbole. When she calls tear gas "chemical weapons". And treats "full riot gear" as reason to just stand and take thrown objects instead of use teat gas. Girl ya got no credibility. While that was a ridiculous amount of tear gas, we have to understand that will happen when rocks get thrown. Period.

Geez nobody needs to get hurt. Ho many times did we see SAC missile bases get "occupied" back in the day at the gate and then is an almost whimsically calm ritual, get arrested? Yes that was you Mr Sheen. (Senior)

582 Kronocide  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:18:20am

re: #552 Killgore Trout

Entitlement. One of the Oakland protesters went on MSNBC and explained that they feel entitled to attack police with rocks and bottles and was pretty unashamed about it. She didn't feel there should be consequences from police response. It's a sadly common attitude.

I took this statement at face value but after watching the video I don't read that much into it. She didn't 'explain that she felt entitled' to anything.

583 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:18:48am

re: #566 sattv4u2

Cool

I still have some cork around somewhere

I can scorch it and we can share!

"And then, Sir Lancelot rode up on a white horse and rescued Joan of Arc. They got married, and lived happily every after. The End."

(Marge rips the page out of the book, and stuffs it into her mouth, to protect Lisa.)

584 Simply Sarah  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:21:08am

re: #578 _RememberTonyC

I have lived in New England for 50 years, but never seen damage like this. My house doesn't have many trees on the grounds, but my neighbors have downed trees that landed on my property. It is sunny now, but tonight will be in the 20's and we have no heat or electricity, so it is going to suck. And my car may be messed up even more with the tree on top of it.

The storm (Well, a branch) took out my parents' pool. This is the pool that survived the tornado earlier this year. I mean, really?

585 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:21:18am

re: #581 Rightwingconspirator

Seriously, as a long-term Bay Area resident, the Oakland stuff just seems entirely typical Bay Area nonsense. Cops fucking up, protesters being righteous, the mayor vacillating, ordinary people getting fucked over by the crossfire.

The regional differences in the protests are interesting. Nashville is very interesting.

586 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:22:15am

re: #580 sattv4u2

Guees i've been one since my early childhood

Even back then I could tell from peoples inflections, words and deeds what their intent was!

Her attitude and intent were clear with her words. And her body language. Note that loong pause when asked about rocks and bottles. To her credit she told the truth there, if reluctantly/defiantly. But then over the top she goes, showing hyperbolic trajectory in chosen dramatic terms. Heh, I wanted to ask her if she was trying to get GWB to invade.

587 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:22:23am

Signing off for now to save battery power on the iPad ... Be safe, everyone!

588 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:24:40am

re: #585 Obdicut

Seriously, as a long-term Bay Area resident, the Oakland stuff just seems entirely typical Bay Area nonsense. Cops fucking up, protesters being righteous, the mayor vacillating, ordinary people getting fucked over by the crossfire.

Yeah, basically exactly that.

589 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:24:51am

re: #586 Rightwingconspirator

So, you're a psychic and a master psychologist l see
//

590 Kronocide  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:27:48am

re: #585 Obdicut

Seriously, as a long-term Bay Area resident, the Oakland stuff just seems entirely typical Bay Area nonsense. Cops fucking up, protesters being righteous, the mayor vacillating, ordinary people getting fucked over by the crossfire.

The regional differences in the protests are interesting. Nashville is very interesting.

Oakland is definitely a different animal with Mehserle/Grant and mayor/police chief issues. Berkeley, every RW pundit's favorite town to ridicule, is right on the border.

591 Digital Display  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:28:59am

re: #585 Obdicut

Seriously, as a long-term Bay Area resident, the Oakland stuff just seems entirely typical Bay Area nonsense. Cops fucking up, protesters being righteous, the mayor vacillating, ordinary people getting fucked over by the crossfire.

The regional differences in the protests are interesting. Nashville is very interesting.

I love the bay area..What ever happened the the daze of Sister Boom Boom?
That nun could run OWS no prob..
I was a kid living in Napa when Milk was killed..I was young but felt a turning point happening then...A real wave of tolerance and understanding for the gay community and their loss and pain...It changed California..And for the better.. We know the price of intolerance and that is the lesson we must reject from the GOP extremists

592 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:30:20am

re: #585 Obdicut

I wish I had the time to go to more Occupy locations. I was sure on first sight that LA would strongly flavor the movement here. And it has, in many ways for the better. Not all of course.

Contrast the above Oakland video with the page I put up earlier. Oakland-provocation-reaction, violence. LA- A small group (then a follow on group with supplies) plants itself in the path of a Presidential motorcade legally, without provocation, and without incident. Not even an arrest. The coverage of this is minimal at best. Which is terribly unjust.

OLA (I just hate calling it OWS-LA like the MSM does because of the differences) has plenty of a sense of mission in common with Occupy elsewhere albeit with great differences in style, At least so far. It ain't over.

593 freetoken  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:34:18am

re: #592 Rightwingconspirator

I wish I had the time to go to more Occupy locations. I was sure on first sight that LA would strongly flavor the movement here. And it has, in many ways for the better.

After seeing the few stories on Occupy San Diego stuff, and reading their facebook postings, I've decided it's not even worth my time tracking down where they're going from here. There are more folk out right now at the beach playing volley-ball here in San Diego than there are people interested in "Occupying" San Diego, and it's going to remain that way.

594 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:43:10am

Oh this is making the rounds. Perry: Drunk, stupid or both?

He's trying liquid courage now before speeches.

595 bratwurst  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:50:58am

re: #594 Stanley Sea

Oh this is making the rounds. Perry: Drunk, stupid or both?

He's trying liquid courage now before speeches.

Sounds more like Will Ferrell as George W. Bush than ever!

596 jaunte  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:55:27am
597 Winny Spencer  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:57:46am

re: #594 Stanley Sea

Oh this is making the rounds. Perry: Drunk, stupid or both?

He's trying liquid courage now before speeches.

Wow. Drunk out of his mind.

598 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:59:08am

re: #596 jaunte

Some of the comments are insane.

its time for all you good people out there to consider joining a state militia.

... because of lesbians?

599 jaunte  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:59:41am

re: #598 Obdicut

I guess any excuse will do.

600 Kronocide  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 11:59:47am

re: #596 jaunte

Fox Nation Upset By Lesbians

its time for all you good people out there to consider joining a state militia.

601 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:00:00pm

re: #597 Winny Spencer

Wow. Drunk out of his mind.

celebrating because his poll numbers haven't hit single digits

yet

602 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:00:36pm

re: #596 jaunte

Fox Nation Upset By Lesbians

I think that this is a good time for the school to retitle this 'homecoming monarchs'.

603 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:00:57pm

re: #598 Obdicut

Some of the comments are insane.

... because of lesbians?

Lesbians are absolutely terrifying.

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604 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:01:21pm

re: #600 BigPapa

its time for all you good people out there to consider joining a state militia.

Can the lesbians who are good people also join? I hear lesbians are good shots.

605 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:04:42pm

re: #604 SanFranciscoZionist

Can the lesbians who are good people also join? I hear lesbians are good shots.

Not sure about that, but the couple (lesbians) that live across the street from us sure do pour a generous one!!

606 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:06:10pm

re: #602 SanFranciscoZionist

I think that this is a good time for the school to retitle this 'homecoming monarchs'.

It's just that not every young man is going to be comfortable being named 'homecoming queen'. (Some of them would be thrilled, of course...)

607 Winny Spencer  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:06:39pm

re: #594 Stanley Sea

Oh this is making the rounds. Perry: Drunk, stupid or both?

He's trying liquid courage now before speeches.

"Under my plan, the death tax expires before you expire."

608 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:09:51pm

re: #596 jaunte

Fox Nation Upset By Lesbians

Clicked on the link. I must say. I don't think I can take anymore of seeing THAT pic of Steven Tyler.

609 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:13:29pm

re: #597 Winny Spencer

Wow. Drunk out of his mind.

Nope. Not drunk. He could be a little tipsy but that's not drunk.

610 jaunte  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:14:26pm

re: #608 Gus 802

What's missing from the Fox reporting is any mention that the homecoming king/queen are popularly elected by their fellow students.

611 Winny Spencer  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:14:51pm

He could be bipolar.

612 freetoken  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:15:55pm

1500 years from now, when some historian sits down to write about the history of the USA, and when covering what will be called the "Second Great American Civil War", in order to settle the argument over the cause of said war, the future historian will only be able to conclude that there was one thing that caused this great war: lesbianism.

613 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:16:26pm

re: #610 jaunte

What's missing from the Fox reporting is any mention that the homecoming king/queen are popularly elected by their fellow students.

The usual phobia BS no doubt. OMG! Lesbians! Heck, I'm for whomever the student body wants to elect. It's 2011 and people need to get with it once and for all.

614 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:17:38pm

re: #444 Gus 802

I don't know. Apparently according to the Democrat Party!!11ty

//

Don't you mean the Robert Byrd party??

615 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:19:53pm

re: #610 jaunte

What's missing from the Fox reporting is any mention that the homecoming king/queen are popularly elected by their fellow students.

That's what scares them. These kids are of a generation that, regardless of their political or religious beliefs, increasingly doesn't feel a strong taboo about homosexuality, and will be nice to out gay classmates, like them, admire them, and elect them homecoming monarchs.

(Also, really, has any straight boy ever wanted to be homecoming king, except to please his girlfriend? This is an ideal solution.)

616 jaunte  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:19:58pm

re: #613 Gus 802

I bet Google Analytics has data on how many more clicks a story will get if the word 'lesbians' is used in the headline.

617 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:20:31pm

re: #614 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Don't you mean the Robert Byrd party??

I think it's called that in West Virginia. They ran out of other stuff to name after Byrd.

618 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:21:40pm

re: #580 sattv4u2

Guees i've been one since my early childhood

Even back then I could tell from peoples inflections, words and deeds what their intent was!

I bet you can even spot them a mile away. /

619 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:21:49pm

re: #614 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Don't you mean the Robert Byrd party??

And the party of Ted Kennedy! I can't begin to tell you how much of that I had to suffer through. Byrd comes up over and over again. The Robert Byrd card as it were.

620 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:22:00pm

re: #617 SanFranciscoZionist

I think it's called that in West Virginia. They ran out of other stuff to name after Byrd.

Which you can understand. The man worked like the hammers of hell for decades to get his state what they needed. And through it all, I hear tell, continued to often bring a sack lunch his wife had packed.

621 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:23:05pm

re: #619 Gus 802

And the party of Ted Kennedy! I can't begin to tell you how much of that I had to suffer through. Byrd comes up over and over again. The Robert Byrd card as it were.

Without excusing their sins and failings, I am proud to claim them both.

622 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:23:38pm

re: #619 Gus 802

And the party of Ted Kennedy! I can't begin to tell you how much of that I had to suffer through. Byrd comes up over and over again. The Robert Byrd card as it were.

And communists!!!

623 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:24:28pm

re: #621 SanFranciscoZionist

Without excusing their sins and failings, I am proud to claim them both.

I'm going to start telling the confederates I vote for Robert Byrd Party.

624 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:26:19pm

re: #618 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I bet you can even spot them a mile away. /

nahh ,, I need reading glasses now!

625 freetoken  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:27:51pm

For those looking to spend their Sunday afternoon reading wonky science literature, from last week's World Climate Research Program meeting, the working group position papers are coming in which summarize what various parties think need to be done in near term climate-related research:

[Link: www.wcrp-climate.org...]

Some of them contain decent summaries of recent work in climatology.

626 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:28:55pm

re: #622 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

...

Not only was Robert Byrd a Klanner but he morphed into one of them there Democrat Party Marxists!!11ty

627 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:29:02pm

I hate pork barrel earmarks, Byrd was certainly among the elite delivery systems for it.

As much as I hate the earmarks, I don't know what WV would have done without them. I spend a lot of time there; a beautiful, but terrible place.

I have to admit, the telescopes at Paint Bank, WV are pretty cool

628 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:29:46pm

re: #623 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I'm going to start telling the confederates I vote for Robert Byrd Party.

The Byrd is the word.

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629 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:32:16pm

West Virginia is poor. Robert Byrd helped those poor people. Fuck earmarks. If helping poor americans is wasteful, bring it on.

630 Gus  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:32:17pm

The Union of Soviet Socialist Democrats

USSD

Derp

631 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:36:11pm

re: #627 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hate pork barrel earmarks, Byrd was certainly among the elite delivery systems for it.

As much as I hate the earmarks, I don't know what WV would have done without them. I spend a lot of time there; a beautiful, but terrible place.

I have to admit, the telescopes at Paint Bank, WV are pretty cool

Like they used to say, if it wasn't nailed down, Byrd would earmark it for West Virginia. If it was nailed down, he'd pry out the nails, and earmark it for West Virginia. And he'd keep the nails. For West Virginia.

I don't care for the earmarking business either, but I fully respect Byrd's passion for bringing home what was needed, and if you're West Virginia, a hell of a lot is needed.


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