2 | makeitstop Mon, Oct 31, 2011 9:54:08pm |
He looks hammered in that video. Or over-medicated somehow.
3 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 31, 2011 9:55:22pm |
He is so last week, the GOP has moved on to Cain.
All on the yellow-brick road to Romney, the nomination and the ultimate loss in November 2012.
What a waste of time and money.
4 | jaunte Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:03:37pm |
I guess we're just not ready to elect a syrup-cuddler to the Presidency.
5 | Targetpractice Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:04:48pm |
re: #3 ggt
He is so last week, the GOP has moved on to Cain.
All on the yellow-brick road to Romney, the nomination and the ultimate loss in November 2012.
What a waste of time and money.
It is rather sad. They've already dumped Perry in disgust, and now Cain got whacked by two scandals in one day. If he should fall, where do they turn? Dust off Rick and say "Sorry we gave you so much shit about illegals and vaccines, now please save us from the evil Romney"?
6 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:06:27pm |
re: #5 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
It is rather sad. They've already dumped Perry in disgust, and now Cain got whacked by two scandals in one day. If he should fall, where do they turn? Dust off Rick and say "Sorry we gave you so much shit about illegals and vaccines, now please save us from the evil Romney"?
Rick Santorum --he lost it with his Catholic Family interview.
It's going to be Romney, and barring any major mishap by Obama or national disaster, the GOP will be finished in 2012.
8 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:13:43pm |
9 | Targetpractice Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:14:05pm |
re: #6 ggt
Rick Santorum --he lost it with his Catholic Family interview.
It's going to be Romney, and barring any major mishap by Obama or national disaster, the GOP will be finished in 2012.
Santorum never really had it. He's been fighting for relevance in this whole charade since Day One. When he announced, it wasn't to fanfare, but to many rolling eyes and mutters of "Here we go again." Honestly, I'm surprised he hasn't dropped out by now.
10 | Four More Beers Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:14:14pm |
While Perry is clearly off (or on, perhaps?) his meds or drunk, Maddow has always had a serious issue coming off as a "journalist." If she wants to do her ads for MSNBC to promote the product, fine, but she is no more a journalist than any one else at Fox. Period.
11 | goddamnedfrank Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:16:08pm |
re: #2 makeitstop
He looks hammered in that video. Or over-medicated somehow.
Rapture of the Deep. It's hard to tell but he's actually scuba diving in that video.
12 | Four More Beers Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:18:03pm |
Maddow from the left, O'Reilly from the right. I am so sick of the noise, regardless of ideological slant.
14 | Alexzander Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:18:09pm |
re: #10 Kid A
While Perry is clearly off (or on, perhaps?) his meds or drunk, Maddow has always had a serious issue coming off as a "journalist." If she wants to do her ads for MSNBC to promote the product, fine, but she is no more a journalist than any one else at Fox. Period.
The minute you accept a leading role in any of these shows, you're no longer a journalist. You've become some wierd opinion/character piece.
15 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:18:53pm |
re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist
Never made me that weird.
With alcohol on top, maybe.
xanax with vicodin can make for some loopy moments.
17 | Kragar Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:22:56pm |
Exclusive Footage of Rick Perry's pre-speach preparations:
[Link: www.collegehumor.com...]
18 | Alexzander Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:22:59pm |
I cant help but think that this video shows the real/honest Perry as opposed to a momentary lapse in sanity for him.
19 | Alexzander Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:24:04pm |
From The Wild:
Here's what the folks over at Sean Hannity's forum have to say about the Perry video/speech:
[Link: forums.hannity.com...]
20 | Alexzander Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:25:04pm |
re: #18 Alexzander
I cant help but think that this video shows the real/honest Perry as opposed to a momentary lapse in sanity for him.
Apparently I should watch the Maddow video as she has someone on who says Perry has never behaved in that manner before...
21 | engineer cat Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:37:39pm |
the wingnuts seem to have settled on cain. i think the harassment thing will only make them back him more solidly
i can't wait to see if he holds up and the voting follows the polls and the gop leadership gets stuck nominating him
now that would be something
26 | Lidane Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:45:11pm |
re: #21 engineer dog
i can't wait to see if he holds up and the voting follows the polls and the gop leadership gets stuck nominating him
now that would be something
There are four major nightmares for the GOP leadership right now:
1. Nominating Cain and watching him get curbstomped by Obama
2. Nominating Romney and pissing off the wingnuts, leading them to stay home
3. Nominating Romney and ending up with a third-party challenger from the right
4. A repeat of the 2008 Democratic primaries and/or a brokered convention
None of them are good options right now, and all of them can only end badly.
27 | engineer cat Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:51:56pm |
re: #26 Lidane
There are four major nightmares for the GOP leadership right now:
1. Nominating Cain and watching him get curbstomped by Obama
2. Nominating Romney and pissing off the wingnuts, leading them to stay home
3. Nominating Romney and ending up with a third-party challenger from the right
4. A repeat of the 2008 Democratic primaries and/or a brokered conventionNone of them are good options right now, and all of them can only end badly.
a brokered convention would be a helluva show. there hasn't been a real old fashioned convention in over 50 years...
28 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:52:03pm |
I will say that I don't think Cain will follow the Party line if he doesn't agree with it. His ego is too big. He has already proven himself in business doesn't have the insecurity of the other candidates who need the party to hold their hands and wipe their noses.
I really hope he doesn't get the nomination because I don't think he is what the country needs for POTUS.
I like him, but not for POTUS.
Unless the magical GOP fairy pulls some really spectacular candidate out of the hat soon, we will see Obama as POTUS for another 4 years. I don't object. I'm upset the GOP is leading us to a one party system.
29 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:55:36pm |
re: #27 engineer dog
a brokered convention would be a helluva show. there hasn't been a real old fashioned convention in over 50 years...
I really don't think I could handle the drama.
OMG! Bob save us!
30 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:58:21pm |
Some kitlers cannot be taken seriously.
Unlike the GOP candidates, of which, none can be taken seriously.
31 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:01:12pm |
re: #30 ggt
Some kitlers cannot be taken seriously.
Unlike the GOP candidates, of which, none can be taken seriously.
I call those 'Chaplin kitties'.
32 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:02:08pm |
Earth to Perry:
The Good Ole' Boy Train is not going to take you to D.C.
Stay in Austin, save us all a lot of time and money.
33 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:02:34pm |
34 | Lidane Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:05:12pm |
re: #27 engineer dog
a brokered convention would be a helluva show. there hasn't been a real old fashioned convention in over 50 years...
A brokered convention would be both hilarious and awesome. I think I'd actually watch the RNC if that happened.
It won't happen, of course. The party leadership will push like hell for the base and the delegates to STFU and get the hell back in line, even if they hate Romney. But if it DID happen, the fallout would be amazing. I could easily see the wingnut/Freeper/WND base demanding a third-party or independent challenger if Romney gets the nod.
35 | Cheechako Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:05:44pm |
re: #27 engineer dog
a brokered convention would be a helluva show. there hasn't been a real old fashioned convention in over 50 years...
A brokered convention would give new meaning to "Must Watch TV".
37 | Lidane Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:09:56pm |
re: #36 Tigger2
He's a dumber George W.
Dubya had a conscience. Goodhair? Not so much.
Perry's more of a male Sarah Palin.
38 | OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:10:05pm |
re: #28 ggt
I will say that I don't think Cain will follow the Party line if he doesn't agree with it. His ego is too big. He has already proven himself in business doesn't have the insecurity of the other candidates who need the party to hold their hands and wipe their noses.
I really hope he doesn't get the nomination because I don't think he is what the country needs for POTUS.
I like him, but not for POTUS.
Unless the magical GOP fairy pulls some really spectacular candidate out of the hat soon, we will see Obama as POTUS for another 4 years. I don't object. I'm upset the GOP is leading us to a one party system.
I don't like Cain as a politician and I hate his politics with the same intensity that his politics strives to make me a 2nd classer. Like Ms. Palin, in whose showbiz/tabloid footsteps he's following, and without whom he as a presidential candidate he could never exist, there are things about his public persona that I find interesting and sometimes funny. But not for a presidential run, not in 2012.
Let him pull this old sloppy bullshit in 2016, see how far it gets him. The only people falling for that old gag are white confederates. Good luck to him trying to get very far with even a fraction of the 23 percenters.
39 | SteveMcG Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:10:05pm |
re: #12 Kid A
Maddow from the left, O'Reilly from the right. I am so sick of the noise, regardless of ideological slant.
I would like to see some long term fact checking, but I think I know which one would hold up better.
40 | Tigger2 Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:12:08pm |
re: #37 Lidane
Dubya had a conscience. Goodhair? Not so much.
Perry's more of a male Sarah Palin.
He acts and sounds like W.
42 | laZardo Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:14:09pm |
re: #40 Tigger2
He acts and sounds like W.
Blocked an investigation that would have very likely saved an innocent man from execution.
Not like W.
43 | Tigger2 Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:15:28pm |
re: #42 laZardo
Blocked an investigation that would have very likely saved an innocent man from execution.
Not like W.
He has mannerisms and sounds like W.
44 | OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:16:00pm |
re: #37 Lidane
Dubya had a conscience. Goodhair? Not so much.
Perry's more of a male Sarah Palin.
Sarah's cuter.
/ < -- should I have?
45 | Kragar Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:16:13pm |
re: #36 Tigger2
He's a dumber George W.
He's George Bush stripped of his upbringing, education, eloquence, and charm.
46 | SteveMcG Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:16:28pm |
re: #42 laZardo
Blocked an investigation that would have very likely saved an innocent man from execution.
Not like W.
W was uninterested in the case for a war which killed thousands. I guess he is't like W, yet.
47 | SteveMcG Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:18:11pm |
My beef is actually with the voters who keep re-electing him and all those people who thought he was just the thing the Republican Party needed.
48 | laZardo Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:20:25pm |
re: #46 SteveMcG
Him and all the Congressmen and Senators that voted for it.
49 | SteveMcG Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:22:13pm |
re: #48 laZardo
Him and all the Congressmen and Senators that voted for it.
I do think that there were some Congressmen and Senators who were lied to. Bush, as C in C, bears the most responsibility.
50 | Tigger2 Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:22:25pm |
re: #47 SteveMcG
My beef is actually with the voters who keep re-electing him and all those people who thought he was just the thing the Republican Party needed.
That could be said about a lot of the corporate loving politicians on both sides.
They don't represent us they represent the top tier, you can tell it by the policies they pass.
51 | SteveMcG Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:24:26pm |
re: #50 Tigger2
That could be said about a lot of the corporate loving politicians on both sides.
They don't represent us they represent the top tier, you can tell it by the policies they pass.
Not quite buying that either. Corporations are powerful, but there is still a difference between the two sides.
52 | SpaceJesus Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:25:56pm |
did somebody slip ecstasy into his lone star, jesus christ
53 | Tigger2 Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:26:04pm |
re: #51 SteveMcG
Not wuite buying that either. Corporations are powerful, but there is still a difference between the two sides.
I agree with that but you still have sell outs on the better side.
54 | Tigger2 Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:27:17pm |
re: #51 SteveMcG
Not wuite buying that either. Corporations are powerful, but there is still a difference between the two sides.
Like the two blue dogs that voted against the jobs bill.
55 | SteveMcG Mon, Oct 31, 2011 11:28:53pm |
re: #54 Tigger2
Like the two blue dogs that voted against the jobs bill.
I got a kick out of John Boehner calling that a bipartisan vote because 2 out of 50 Democratic Senators voted against the bill.
61 | Lidane Tue, Nov 1, 2011 12:29:00am |
re: #40 Tigger2
He acts and sounds like W.
Sounds, yes. Acts? Not really. He's far more ruthless and calculating than Dubya was. Even at his worst, you could believe that Dubya had some kind of sincerity. Rick Perry wouldn't know sincerity if it bit him in the ass.
I never voted for Bush or his Daddy, but I'd take either one of them over Goodhair any day.
63 | boxhead Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:34:41am |
64 | researchok Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:35:39am |
65 | laZardo Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:41:10am |
re: #60 goddamnedfrank
More clever though a little less funny than the Fresh Prince 1%.
66 | researchok Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:41:51am |
re: #65 laZardo
I thought you were off to sleep!
68 | boxhead Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:44:33am |
re: #64 researchok
How's it going?
I hope all is well.
yeppers.. and you? had fun giving out candy tonight... did not scare a kid to cry.. but it was close
lol
69 | researchok Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:45:15am |
re: #67 laZardo
I can relate- for the last 3-4 months I've been overwhelmed with work.
They keep telling me it's ending but it isn't.
I've let everything else slide- not good.
70 | researchok Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:46:39am |
re: #68 boxhead
yeppers.. and you? had fun giving out candy tonight... did not scare a kid to cry.. but it was close
lol
Like I was saying, crazy work, crazy clients.
It's Halloween everyday for me.
I have to get off this pony!
71 | boxhead Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:50:44am |
this is where Euro rules about vacation kick USA's ass.... so do you dress up everyday?
:)
72 | researchok Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:53:12am |
re: #71 boxhead
this is where Euro rules about vacation kick USA's ass... so do you dress up everyday?
:)
Vacation right about now would be nice.
As for the coat and tie, about half the time. It's the travel that kills me- Atlanta, VA Beach, DC, among other places.
73 | boxhead Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:58:00am |
re: #72 researchok
Vacation right about now would be nice.
As for the coat and tie, about half the time. It's teh travel that kills me- Atlanta, VA Beach, DC, among other places.
arrr... travel on the eastern seaboard can suck donkey junk...
74 | researchok Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:59:17am |
For sure.
Anyway, I'm outta here.
Meetings then VA Beach later in the day.
Later, all
75 | boxhead Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:59:46am |
re: #74 researchok
For sure.
Anyway, I'm outta here.
Meetings then VA Beach later in the day.
Later, all
night!
76 | EdDantes Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:45:35am |
I think perry was just trying to hard to be personable; apparently an unnatural condition for him. His Use of "Dude!", "Brother", "cool'', and making goofy gestures just made him look and sound like a small time lounge comedian.
78 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:05:06am |
Local news:
Suspect in day-care break-in says he brought own bikini
[Link: www.indystar.com...]
Police have arrested a 43-year-old Indianapolis man they suspect broke into a daycare center and tried on several girls swimsuits.
Investigators preliminarily charged Robert Brenneman with criminal trespassing for breaking into the Indianapolis daycare. He also was preliminarily charged with resisting arrest for running from police this morning.
Late in the night Oct. 20, security video showed a man wearing a pink bikini inside the daycare.
Brenneman told police the two-piece child’s swimsuit was his own, and he brought it into the daycare.
Slideshow at link. I don't think pink is his color.
80 | CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:15:44am |
Aww, poor Pam is having a bad week.
Not only has she had to move her Preserving Freedom Conference to a church and reduce the price to $20, but she also says she's not going to speak at this Friday's Florida State Tea Party Convention because they've also invited a speaker from CAIR1. To add insult to injury, the organizers scheduled them at opposite ends of the day so she wouldn't even have a chance to debate them!
I have to wonder....
Has Tea Party gone Jihadi? Have they been infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood? Who will save America from the Islamic Supremacists and their evil, creeping Sharia? Will Geller & Spencer, the only True Patriots™ remaining, now have to don their superhero capes and do it all alone?? What an outrageous outrage!!11!
Excuse me while I go make a fresh pot of coffee and try to wipe the uncharitable smirk off my face.
1. I won't link to her site—the post is easy enough to find.
81 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:16:49am |
I looked to see if anyone had done a page on this story but I didn't find one:
Anonymous Threatens Mexico’s Murderous Drug Lords
[Link: www.wired.com...]
A ruthless campaign of killing, extortion and kidnapping by Mexico’s powerful Zetas drug cartel has created plenty of enemies, from the Mexican government to paramilitary vigilantes to rival cartels. But now the Zetas have a new adversary: the hacker collective Anonymous.
In a video uploaded Oct. 6, an Anonymous spokesperson said that unless the Zetas release one of the group’s members, the group will reveal the photos, names and addresses of Zetas-affiliated cops and taxi drivers. (The member was allegedly kidnapped in the western coastal city of Veracruz during an “Operation Paperstorm” demonstration.) Anonymous also threatened to out journalists accused of “crapping on honest authorities like the Army and the Navy,” the spokesperson said.
82 | CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:17:36am |
re: #81 RogueOne
I think I saw a page on that yesterday.
83 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:18:42am |
re: #82 CuriousLurker
I scrolled back 25 hours and couldn't find one. Yesterday I missed a story on the front page so it wouldn't surprise me if I missed this one too.
85 | CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:20:52am |
re: #83 RogueOne
Oops—sorry, you're right. I must've seen it somewhere else because Googling the title along with LGF isn't bringing anything up, and it always does if there's a page on it.
86 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:31:52am |
Daily Show:
"Best case scenario, that dude is hammered. Worst case, that's Perry sober and every time we've previously seen him he's been hammered...Mitt Romney is the luckiest Mother Fudger on earth."
87 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:34:23am |
Va Republican party condemns Loudoun GOP e-mail with an image of Obama shot in the head
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
The Republican Party of Virginia is strongly condemning an e-mail sent by Loudoun County’s GOP committee that shows President Obama as a zombie with part of his skull missing and a bullet through his head.
“The disgusting image used today on a mass e-mail has no place in our politics. Ever,’’ said Pat Mullins, chairman of the state party. “The Republican Party of Virginia condemns the image and its use in the strongest possible terms.”
Gov. Robert F. McDonnell (R) called the e-mail “shameful and offensive,’’ his spokesman Tucker Martin said. “He calls on those involved to apologize for their actions, and to immediately ensure that such imagery is never used again. The governor has long stressed the need for more civility and respect in our politics. An e-mail like this one undermines those goals, offends all Virginians and discredits our entire political process. It will not be tolerated.”
89 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:39:52am |
Steve Jobs's last words: 'Oh wow. Oh wow. Oh wow'
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]
I always figured mine would be "ohshit, ohshit, ohshit!!!"
90 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:41:18am |
re: #87 RogueOne
Wouldn't have been nearly as bad without the bullet head.
Idiots. I'd expect that from random kids on the intertubes, not an actual GOP county chair.
They made a nice non-apology, too.
The Loudoun County Republican Committee yesterday sent an email to its members that represented a light-hearted attempt to inject satire humor into the Halloween holiday,’’ Sell wrote. Apparently, some individuals have interpreted an image of Barack Obama that appeared within the email as intending to portray the president as a victim of a violent crime. Nothing could be further from the truth, and we deeply and sincerely apologize to the president and anyone who viewed the image if that was the impression that was left. The LCRC deplores any effort to display, suggest or promote violence against the president or any other political figure.
I'm fairly sure that a picture of Obama's corpse, animated or no, with a bullet hole in its head really is a portrayal of him as a victim of violent crime. I mean, the defense to that is "No no, we meant shooting Obama in the head after he was dead already", which doesn't sound that good.
91 | EdDantes Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:41:46am |
re: #86 RogueOne
OK, I admit it. When I first saw the perry video I thought it was another bad lip reading thing. :)
92 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:45:44am |
re: #90 Obdicut
Wouldn't have been nearly as bad without the bullet head.
Idiots. I'd expect that from random kids on the intertubes, not an actual GOP county chair.
......
I agree and that's what I was wondering, would people have been upset if they hadn't put the bullet hole in the pic.
93 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:46:27am |
re: #91 EdDantes
OK, I admit it. When I first saw the perry video I thought it was another bad lip reading thing. :)
That's a great observation! Ha! They don't even have to work on that one, they should just post it like it is.
94 | EdDantes Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:46:36am |
re: #87 RogueOne
This conservative republican also condemns it.Can't these people learn?
95 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:47:05am |
re: #76 EdDantes
I think perry was just trying to hard to be personable; apparently an unnatural condition for him. His Use of "Dude!", "Brother", "cool'', and making goofy gestures just made him look and sound like a small time lounge comedian.
I was reminded more of Jim Carrey at his goofiest.
96 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:49:14am |
Boiled egg with 'mooseknuckle'.
The confidence that some people exhibit.
97 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:49:52am |
Tenn. agrees to stop enforcing curfew, arresting Occupy Wall Street protesters near Capitol.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Tennessee officials agreed Monday to stop enforcing a new curfew used to dislodge Occupy Nashville protesters from the grounds around the Capitol.
The protesters went to federal court seeking a temporary restraining order against Gov. Bill Haslam, arguing the curfew and arrests of dozens of supporters violated their rights to free speech and freedom of assembly.
State Attorney General’s Office Senior Counsel Bill Marett announced at the beginning of a hearing before Judge Aleta Trauger that the state would not fight efforts to halt the policy.
The judge said she had already decided to grant the restraining order because the curfew was a “clear prior restraint on free speech rights.”
“I can’t think of a more quintessential public forum than Legislative Plaza,” Trauger said.
It only took being told it was illegal 3 times by a judge and the threat of a lawsuit by the ACLU before they finally got the message.
98 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:50:36am |
re: #92 RogueOne
I would have still thought it was a little crass and dumb without the bullet hole, but nowhere near as mindlessly stupid. I thought it was jerktastic to portray McCain as a vampire, but this takes it one step further. I guess if that photographer had shown McCain as a vampire being staked through the heart and she was a county chairman of the DNC, and not a photographer.
Nice to see it's at least being condemned by some in the GOP.
99 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:51:24am |
re: #96 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Boiled egg with 'mooseknuckle'.
The confidence that some people exhibit.
Stop stealing pictures from my self-portrait gallery. We've talked about this.
100 | EdDantes Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:55:43am |
re: #96 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
camel toe: Good
Mooseknuckle: bad
101 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:56:01am |
re: #96 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Also, is he rubbing himself with a feather, or just carrying around a cheese knife?
102 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:57:51am |
re: #101 Obdicut
Also, is he rubbing himself with a feather, or just carrying around a cheese knife?
That's a fork. Sometimes the colon is just not impacted enough.
103 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:58:31am |
Daily bad idea #3:
Activists propose 'shutting down' candidate offices during Iowa caucuses
[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]
The plan has been dubbed the "First in the Nation Caucus Occupation" - a play on words for the first-in-the-nation presidential contest. The idea is to have activists from across the nation, and possibly beyond, descend on Iowa.
The plan: "people coming to Iowa, occupying every presidential (candidate's) office, shutting them down until they start talking real turkey about what's going on in this country, where the 99% of the people who are not benefiting, at the expense of the 1% who are getting away with murder," said Frank Cordaro, one of the organizers.
The plan is to target offices for Republican candidates and President Barack Obama's campaign offices in the state.
104 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:59:40am |
re: #103 RogueOne
As long as they hit the POTUS too.
105 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:00:40am |
Good Morning Honcos!!
Neat site for the 2012 budget. You can zoom in to see how a program has changed from last year and 2002 as a baseline. Enjoy.
[Link: deathandtaxesposter.com...]
106 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:02:24am |
re: #103 RogueOne
Daily bad idea #3:
Activists propose 'shutting down' candidate offices during Iowa caucuses
[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]
Tax the rich to feed the poor,
til there are no rich no more!!
//
107 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:03:31am |
re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
As long as they hit the POTUS too.
I think it's a bad idea. Right now they still have a (at least partially) sympathetic public view. Shutting down political offices would be lousy PR.
108 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:03:57am |
re: #98 Obdicut
I would have still thought it was a little crass and dumb without the bullet hole, but nowhere near as mindlessly stupid. I thought it was jerktastic to portray McCain as a vampire, but this takes it one step further. I guess if that photographer had shown McCain as a vampire being staked through the heart and she was a county chairman of the DNC, and not a photographer.
Nice to see it's at least being condemned by some in the GOP.
I'm all about that county chair getting a visit from Secret Service as a gentle reminder.
109 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:03:59am |
re: #106 rwdflynavy
Tax the rich to feed the poor,
til there are no rich no more!!
//
I'm betting you'd love to change the world, but you don't know what to do.
110 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:06:09am |
re: #109 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm betting you'd love to change the world, but you don't know what to do.
It is that old argument about cutting people bigger pieces of the pie or baking a bigger pie. I know which I'd prefer.
Also, FBV is always in favor of pie!
111 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:06:20am |
re: #108 rwdflynavy
I'm all about that county chair getting a visit from Secret Service as a gentle reminder.
Those folks have zero sense of humor.
112 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:06:51am |
re: #110 rwdflynavy
It is that old argument about cutting people bigger pieces of the pie or baking a bigger pie. I know which I'd prefer.
Also, FBV is always in favor of pie!
It's also lyrics to a song.
114 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:09:14am |
re: #111 RogueOne
Those folks have zero sense of humor.
When we lived in Jax, we were in a Sunday School class with a retired SS agent. He had some very interesting stories...
115 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:10:03am |
116 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:11:17am |
117 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:12:10am |
re: #114 rwdflynavy
When we lived in Jax, we were in a Sunday School class with a retired SS agent. He had some very interesting stories...
I had 2 of them show up at my shop during the clinton admin looking for my brother. He had no idea why they were there, first time I've ever seen my brother scared. A friend of his had applied to be on one of the presidents' flight crews and there was a gun charge (involving a bb gun war on base) they wanted to ask him about.
118 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:15:04am |
The moment man was publicly beheaded in a Saudi Arabian car park for being a 'sorcerer'
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
Shocking footage has surfaced of a Sudanese man being publicly beheaded in Saudi Arabia for being a 'sorcerer'.
Crouched on his knees and blindfolded, Abdul Hamid Bin Hussain Bin Moustafa al-Fakki was executed in a car park Medina, in the west of the country, as dozens looked on last month.
The grainy footage - which MailOnline believes is too graphic to publish - shows the executioner lining his sword up on the back of Abdul Hamid's neck, before one swift stroke decapitates him.
The Sudanese man, who was killed on September 20, is believed to have been the 44th person executed in Saudi Arabia this year - and the 11th foreign national.
The total for 2011 is 17 more than for the whole of 2010.
Lebanese TV host Ali Hussain Sibat, who was sentenced to death over making predictions of the future on his show, had been scheduled to be beheaded on Friday.
His attorney May El Khansa said the execution did not take place on that day - but that did not mean Sibat has been given a reprieve.
119 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:17:13am |
re: #118 RogueOne
The Sudanese man, who was killed on September 20, is believed to have been the 44th person executed in Saudi Arabia this year - and the 11th foreign national.
Are they in competition with Texas?
120 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:17:19am |
re: #118 RogueOne
The moment man was publicly beheaded in a Saudi Arabian car park for being a 'sorcerer'
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
"Our friends the Saudis"
//
121 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:17:33am |
122 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:18:35am |
re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The thing I hate most about the internet. Death Porn.
Not gonna click it.
This is worse.
[Link: www.google.com...]
123 | EdDantes Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:19:09am |
re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The thing I hate most about the internet. Death Porn.
Not gonna click it.
Wouldn't be prudent.
124 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:19:22am |
re: #119 Cannadian Club Akbar
The Sudanese man, who was killed on September 20, is believed to have been the 44th person executed in Saudi Arabia this year - and the 11th foreign national.
Are they in competition with Texas?
Even in Texas they don't execute "sorcerers" for predicting the future...anymore.
//
126 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:20:00am |
re: #124 rwdflynavy
Even in Texas they don't execute "sorcerers" for predicting the future...anymore.
//
Thats right
They name them to the State Board of (somethingorother)
127 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:20:36am |
re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The thing I hate most about the internet. Death Porn.
Not gonna click it.
wuss!
/
128 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:22:41am |
129 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:23:42am |
Criminal charges, Seriously?
Middletown middle schooler charged with defacing school bus seat with marker
[Link: www.pennlive.com...]
A 13-year-old in Lower Swatara Township was cited with disorderly conduct after police alleged he drew on his school bus seat with permanent marker during the ride to Middletown Area Middle School Wednesday.
It's not clear what he wrote.
130 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:25:39am |
re: #129 RogueOne
Criminal charges, Seriously?
Middletown middle schooler charged with defacing school bus seat with marker
[Link: www.pennlive.com...]
Meh, make the little turd spend a Saturday afternoon washing buses. But I'm sure there is the quote "zero tolerance" in there somewhere.
131 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:27:30am |
re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My nose bleeds every 28 days.
Stop pissing people off every 4 weeks and they won't be punching you in the nose anymore!!!
132 | garhighway Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:27:33am |
Good Morning from NYC, where it is still dark out.
I see that the GOP race is now over, with both Perry and Cain imploding in the last few days, leaving them with no one but Romney. (Is Pawlenty kicking himself right about now, or what?)
I also see that Newt is trying to create a "what about Newt" boomlet, which he cannily follows up on by campaigning in...wait for it... Norway.
For a guy who is supposed to be the Big Thinker in the GOP race, he has been surprisingly unserious about running.
133 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:28:22am |
re: #130 Cannadian Club Akbar
Meh, make the little turd spend a Saturday afternoon washing buses. But I'm sure there is the quote "zero tolerance" in there somewhere.
Criminally charging kids for doing the stupid shit kids do has gotten completely out of hand. The clearance I needed for the Intel branch takes around 6 months to get, mine took almost 13 months (longer than my first marriage lasted!). If I had been actually arrested for all the stupid crap I did they would have never let me in the Army to begin with. They're ruining kids lives over nothing.
134 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:29:31am |
re: #133 RogueOne
Criminally charging kids for doing the stupid shit kids do has gotten completely out of hand. The clearance I needed for the Intel branch takes around 6 months to get, mine took almost 13 months (longer than my first marriage lasted!). If I had been actually arrested for all the stupid crap I did they would have never let me in the Army to begin with. They're ruining kids lives over nothing.
You must have married a Kardashian.
//
135 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:31:09am |
re: #134 rwdflynavy
You must have married a Kardashian.
//
There were some, ummm, "issues"....Good times, good times.
136 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:31:33am |
re: #133 RogueOne
Just another "unintended consequence".
137 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:32:18am |
re: #135 RogueOne
There were some, ummm, "issues"...Good times, good times.
Found out "he" was a "she"??
NTTAWWT!!!
138 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:32:20am |
re: #135 RogueOne
There were some, ummm, "issues"...Good times, good times.
Was there a knife involved?
139 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:33:06am |
140 | Randall Gross Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:35:48am |
Ok I finally watched that clip all the way, someone needs to make a bobblehead Rick Perry.
141 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:35:56am |
re: #137 sattv4u2
re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar
Turns out excessive dating was a red flag but they were ok with the violence issue. There was one incident that no one knew about but my best friend from HS. When they asked him how I would react if someone tried to blackmail me over it he said "Violently". They didn't have a problem with that...Go Army!
142 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:36:40am |
K Kiddies
Have the house all to myself (well,,, me and the pooches) for an hour before I have to get ready for the long quiet drive into work!!
Cya when I get there!!
143 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:36:45am |
Zdravstvujte.
145 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:37:20am |
146 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:38:24am |
re: #145 sattv4u2
No thanks, that's sweet wingnut tears.
148 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:39:10am |
re: #144 sattv4u2
ouchies!
I was a little angry during my teen years. My senior class voted me "Most Likely to go to Prison". I can't imagine how different my life would have been if people had reacted to my behavior the way they do today. Kids deserve a chance to make mistakes.
149 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:39:47am |
150 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:40:50am |
151 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:41:19am |
152 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:41:54am |
153 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:42:06am |
154 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:42:59am |
re: #153 Obdicut
I blame d’Anthès.
[Link: zdravstvujte.com...]
Huh?
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155 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:43:18am |
re: #154 Sergey Romanov
Ah, OK, now it loaded.
157 | Flounder Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:45:51am |
ROID RAGE!!
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
Apparently he is a control freak, cuz the cop didn't taze him right, so he grabbed the tazer and zapped himself. Oh my.
158 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:45:54am |
159 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:48:12am |
re: #157 Shropshire_Slasher
ROID RAGE!!
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
Apparently he is a control freak, cuz the cop didn't taze him right, so he grabbed the tazer and zapped himself. Oh my.
FTA:
Brothers went over to a treadmill where another man was working out, increased the speed of the machine and punched the man in the face, said Colonie Police Chief Steven H. Heider.
HaHaHa!
161 | boxhead Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:49:45am |
re: #133 RogueOne
Criminally charging kids for doing the stupid shit kids do has gotten completely out of hand. The clearance I needed for the Intel branch takes around 6 months to get, mine took almost 13 months (longer than my first marriage lasted!). If I had been actually arrested for all the stupid crap I did they would have never let me in the Army to begin with. They're ruining kids lives over nothing.
That is the plan...
162 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:53:34am |
163 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:53:39am |
If an Oregon police officer is recording your traffic stop, it's legal to make your own recording of the encounter
[Link: www.oregonlive.com...]
Ever wish you had the words of that all-powerful traffic cop -- the one you thought was rude or just plain wrong -- recorded?
The Oregon Court of Appeals ruled last week that a 33-year-old Cottage Grove man who did just that -- used his cell phone to surreptitiously record his encounter with a cop -- shouldn't have been convicted of a crime.
The Eugene Police officer who pulled over Shane Neff had already told the motorist that he was recording their interaction with his in-car patrol camera. A majority of judges ruled that was enough notice, and Neff needn't announce to the officer that his phone also was capturing their conversation.
164 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:55:51am |
re: #158 Sergey Romanov
That's all the Russian I know. :)
Got a "Teach Yourself Russian" tape which I listened to once before a visit to Moscow in 2007 (my son was living there at the time).
His family is living in NY now but my grandkids all speak perfect Russian! They lost their cute little accents within a few months of moving to the U.S., though.
165 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:57:26am |
15 shot, 2 dead in N.O. Halloween shootings
[Link: www.wwltv.com...]
I said trick or treat, mother fucker!!!
166 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:58:06am |
re: #164 Alouette
Cool. Reminds me of this article: [Link: www.nytimes.com...]
167 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:59:58am |
Occupy Portland expands to Schrunk Plaza, despite feds' warning; Moore says protest is 'friggin' awesome'
[Link: www.oregonlive.com...]
The Occupy Portland protest spilled out Monday from its encampment in Chapman and Lownsdale squares into Terry D. Schrunk Plaza, risking arrest for camping on federal property, and filmmaker Michael Moore stopped by the downtown demonstration in support: "You don't know how friggin' awesome this is!"
....
Kristin Jones, 21, is a law student at Lewis & Clark College who has been camping in Occupy Portland since the initial march through the city Oct. 6. She moved into Schrunk Plaza, she said, "to get away from the stuff that people are criticizing the occupation for. We are drug- and alcohol-free, we are violence-free. And we are sticking it to The Man. This is our park. I don't mind getting arrested for defending my rights."
Down with The Man!
168 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:00:54am |
re: #167 RogueOne
Ah. OK. Now I get what that guy was doing to Kaddafi.
169 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:01:25am |
re: #167 RogueOne
Occupy Portland expands to Schrunk Plaza, despite feds' warning; Moore says protest is 'friggin' awesome'
[Link: www.oregonlive.com...]
Down with The Man!
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Sounds great!!!
//
170 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:02:47am |
Complementary to yesterday's idiotic "Republican zombies" clip:
[Link: www.politico.com...]
Obama depicted as zombie in GOP email
171 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:03:19am |
re: #165 Cannadian Club Akbar
Costume? Check.
Candy? Check.
45? Check.
172 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:03:34am |
re: #169 rwdflynavy
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Sounds great!!!
//
Careful, according to some previous posts it looks like we have a couple of commie sympathizers among us....//
173 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:04:28am |
re: #172 RogueOne
Careful, according to some previous posts it looks like we have a couple of commie sympathizers among us...//
One Russo-Commie and one Judeo-Bolshevik///
174 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:04:43am |
Kristin Jones, 21, is a law student at Lewis & Clark College who has been camping in Occupy Portland since the initial march through the city Oct. 6. She moved into Schrunk Plaza, she said, "to get away from the stuff that people are criticizing the occupation for. We are drug- and alcohol-free, we are violence-free. And we are sticking it to The Man. This is our park. I don't mind getting arrested for defending my rights.
And then she uploaded a video to Youtube from her iphone 4S after tweeting her thoughts to the world on how much she hates evil corporations.
175 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:05:11am |
re: #166 Sergey Romanov
Cool. Reminds me of this article: [Link: www.nytimes.com...]
My grandkids learned English from their father (my son), Hebrew from their mother (she is Israeli) and Russian at school (when they lived in Moscow). Now that they are back in the U.S. their mother enrolls them in after school activities where there are a lot of other Russian-speaking kids, like ballet and gymnastics.
176 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:05:57am |
re: #175 Alouette
Did they feel a lot of antisemitism while in Moscow?
177 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:06:44am |
re: #175 Alouette
My grandkids learned English from their father (my son), Hebrew from their mother (she is Israeli) and Russian at school (when they lived in Moscow). Now that they are back in the U.S. their mother enrolls them in after school activities where there are a lot of other Russian-speaking kids, like ballet and gymnastics.
Reason #2 why they lost the cold war.
178 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:08:46am |
re: #176 Sergey Romanov
Did they feel a lot of antisemitism while in Moscow?
It was very weird. There was a knife attack at the Bolshaya Bronaya synagogue--students overwhelmed the knifer, took away his knife and sat on his feet and hands until the police arrived. The synagogues all had metal detectors after that and all events, like the Passover seder. had very stringent security. My son travelled with a bodyguard and his wife and kids had bodyguards when they went out.
179 | CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:09:52am |
re: #178 Alouette
Alouette, can you tell me if Maariv is a reliable, mainstream newspaper?
*waves at Sergey*
180 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:10:27am |
re: #178 Alouette
Ah, yes. Koptsev. Thankfully he got 16 years. And on the personal level?
181 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:11:17am |
re: #179 CuriousLurker
*waves back*
;)
183 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:11:35am |
Off to class.
Yes I know, I have no class. Later Lizards!
185 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:14:18am |
re: #179 CuriousLurker
Alouette, can you tell me if Maariv is a reliable, mainstream newspaper?
*waves at Sergey*
Does Maariv have an English website? I have not seen it.
The Israeli news sites I visit are YNet and Haaretz. Haaretz has a leftist bias but their straight news stories are generally accurate. YNet is more of a tabloid and they are ferociously biased against the religious population, both the "ultra-Orthodox" and the modern religious Zionist. Arutz Sheva is totally derpy and Jerusalem Post I stay away from because they have destroyed their website with popups, crap ads and hiding most stuff behind a paywall.
186 | Tigger2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:15:56am |
re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The thing I hate most about the internet. Death Porn.
Not gonna click it.
I don't either.
187 | CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:18:15am |
re: #185 Alouette
No, Maariv doesn't have an English site, but someone was inquiring about a source for a story in one of the pages and that was the only place I could find it that looked mainstream. I had to use Google translate once I found the page (via some pretty far left Jewish blogs). That's why I was wondering about it.
Thanks for the rundown on the others.
188 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:19:31am |
re: #180 Sergey Romanov
Ah, yes. Koptsev. Thankfully he got 16 years. And on the personal level?
My son has encountered a few anti-Semites. He regards it as a challenge to confront them. For example, he was walking along a main street in Moscow (I forget which Ring it was) and some skinhead yelled out Zhid! He went over to the guy (of course with his bodyguard Vitaly) and started a conversation. Then the guy said he didn't really hate Jews but he hated Americans. And my son said "and yet here you are, eating at a McDonald's and wearing Gap clothes."
189 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:21:13am |
re: #187 CuriousLurker
No, Maariv doesn't have an English site, but someone was inquiring about a source for a story in one of the pages and that was the only place I could find it that looked mainstream. I had to use Google translate once I found the page (via some pretty far left Jewish blogs). That's why I was wondering about it.
Thanks for the rundown on the others.
I would say that Maariv is lefter than YNet but not as far left as Haaretz.
The order of Israeli media, from Derp to Moonbat:
Arutz Sheva (IsraelNationalNews), Jerusalem Post, YNet, Maariv, Haaretz.
190 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:21:55am |
re: #188 Alouette
My son has encountered a few anti-Semites. He regards it as a challenge to confront them. For example, he was walking along a main street in Moscow (I forget which Ring it was) and some skinhead yelled out Zhid! He went over to the guy (of course with his bodyguard Vitaly) and started a conversation. Then the guy said he didn't really hate Jews but he hated Americans. And my son said "and yet here you are, eating at a McDonald's and wearing Gap clothes."
Big thumbs up for that! Anti-Americanism often intersects with antisemitism, of course.
191 | CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:22:50am |
re: #189 Alouette
The order of Israeli media, from Derp to Moonbat:
LOL, that phrase right there is a keeper! Thanks.
192 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:25:42am |
Morning Lizardim. Last night's festivities weren't terribly frigid, which is a good thing when carting around a 7-month-old baby. Certainly was a good workout for my arms, though. What's new out in Lizardia?
193 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:27:23am |
On this? I think the librarians have a point..
There's 11 million in new building, but they're cutting ten and a half million from staff and service. So, why not wait for new building and not cut the staff and service?
194 | RadicalModerate Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:29:39am |
Video of Jon Stewart's "Daily Show" segment last night on the imploding Herman Cain and Rick Perry campaigns is up - he was a bit nicer than he could have been, but the footage he used of the two candidates was absolutely devastating.
195 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:30:17am |
re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
On this? I think the librarians have a point..
There's 11 million in new building, but they're cutting ten and a half million from staff and service. So, why not wait for new building and not cut the staff and service?
Better unions.
196 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:32:02am |
re: #195 Cannadian Club Akbar
You made me think of California just now. I wonder how many retired Chicago public employees make in excess of $75,000 per year, plus perks.
197 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:33:01am |
re: #191 CuriousLurker
LOL, that phrase right there is a keeper! Thanks.
Because YNet and Haaretz are so biased against religious Jews, I will go to this blog. And of course there is JTA, which is middle-of-the-road. Some people might also recommend The Forward but I can't stand it because of the way they try to be all hip and trendy and suck up to stupid celebrities.
198 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:33:48am |
re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
On this? I think the librarians have a point..
There's 11 million in new building, but they're cutting ten and a half million from staff and service. So, why not wait for new building and not cut the staff and service?
Who will they blame for that?
199 | CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:36:31am |
re: #197 Alouette
Thank you. I really appreciate the help.
200 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:41:38am |
re: #198 NJDhockeyfan
A super-duper ($12 million) library is being built (opening this month) less than a half a mile from my house. They've even rented out space to a coffee house.
Fancy.
201 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:44:05am |
re: #200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A super-duper ($12 million) library is being built (opening this month) less than a half a mile from my house. They've even rented out space to a coffee house.
Fancy.
Great. The librarians have a place to work when they get laid off.
202 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:48:26am |
re: #201 NJDhockeyfan
Great. The librarians have a place to work when they get laid off.
Our libraries have paid staff who run things and then we have people who clean, put books back on shelves, do upkeep of the library grounds. Or as I like to call them "people doing community service". Heh.
203 | loubob57 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:51:52am |
Sorry, I don't see anything in this video that makes me not want to vote for Rick Perry.
However, as a Texas resident I've seen plenty of what Rick Perry has done as Governor that makes me not want to vote for him.
204 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:53:36am |
Stupid question time: I want to block an ability at twitter for users to find me by email. Is this possible?
205 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:56:03am |
re: #204 Sergey Romanov
Stupid question time: I want to block an ability at twitter for users to find me by email. Is this possible?
Now Sergey, there are no stoopid question, only stoopid people.
///
206 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:56:53am |
re: #205 Cannadian Club Akbar
Now Sergey, there are no stoopid question, only stoopid people.
///
And given how widespread the derpitude is, there's a LOT of those.
207 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:57:46am |
re: #204 Sergey Romanov
Stupid question time: I want to block an ability at twitter for users to find me by email. Is this possible?
Actually, without knowing, I would say go to the web site and see if there is a "settings" button.
208 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:58:14am |
re: #207 Cannadian Club Akbar
Actually, without knowing, I would say go to the web site and see if there is a "settings" button.
No, that won't work. Too lazy.
/
209 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 6:01:42am |
re: #207 Cannadian Club Akbar
OK, I forced myself and it worked. *pats self on the back*/
210 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 6:02:50am |
The reflection of the clouds off the skyscraper across the street is stunning. It's definitely a different way to experience the day.
211 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 6:03:01am |
re: #209 Sergey Romanov
OK, I forced myself and it worked. *pats self on the back*/
Next week's subject: "The on/off button. How does it work?"
///
212 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 6:06:06am |
re: #211 Cannadian Club Akbar
Next week's subject: "The on/off button. How does it work?"
///
Magnets?
213 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 6:08:47am |
re: #211 Cannadian Club Akbar
Next week's subject: "The on/off button. How does it work?"
///
FM: F---ing Magic.
214 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 6:24:11am |
Ya know, we have a local business association and I'm trying to access their web site but I forgot my password. OK, fine. I click on "send me my password". Window pops up saying "we will send your password immediately". Okie dokie. Not exactly sure what the problem is.
215 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 6:57:25am |
LOL
Perry is a FUNNY guy!!
Just imagine his set on stage after smoking a "fatty"!!
LOL
How y'all doin?
?
216 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:02:06am |
re: #215 reloadingisnotahobby
LOL
Perry is a FUNNY guy!!
Just imagine his set on stage after smoking a "fatty"!!
LOL
How y'all doin?
?
not bad
217 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:04:10am |
Morning all!
Halloween and come and gone, but there are Butterfingers left-over.
what to do?
How is everyone?
218 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:05:10am |
re: #205 Cannadian Club Akbar
Now Sergey, there are no stoopid question, only stoopid people.
///
I disagree, there ARE stoopid questions.
#1 on my list:
"Where's the ketchup?"
219 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:05:22am |
re: #215 reloadingisnotahobby
LOL
Perry is a FUNNY guy!!
Just imagine his set on stage after smoking a "fatty"!!
LOL
How y'all doin?
?
Where the hell have you been? (unless you were here when I wasn't)
220 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:05:58am |
re: #218 ggt
I disagree, there ARE stoopid questions.
#1 on my list:
"Where's the ketchup?"
In the bottle?
221 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:06:25am |
re: #192 thedopefishlives
Morning Lizardim. Last night's festivities weren't terribly frigid, which is a good thing when carting around a 7-month-old baby. Certainly was a good workout for my arms, though. What's new out in Lizardia?
Did the baby wear a costume? got pix?
222 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:07:04am |
re: #220 Cannadian Club Akbar
In the bottle?
most likely behind the milk, did you think of moving anything to look?
:0
223 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:07:13am |
re: #221 ggt
Did the baby wear a costume? got pix?
Yes he did, yes I do, no I'm not sure if I'm going to share them.
225 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:10:42am |
re: #218 ggt
I disagree, there ARE stoopid questions.
#1 on my list:
"Where's the ketchup?"
226 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:11:14am |
re: #219 Cannadian Club Akbar
Long story...short...
The kids blew up the motor in the Jeep Grand Cherokee
we just bought them...(water pump went out on the freeway)
So I spent 5 weekends and most evenings replacing (by my self...I might add)
with a low mileage (54,000) used motor.
Saved 2500.00 ....but my fingers and knuckels are still healing!
227 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:12:34am |
re: #223 thedopefishlives
Yes he did, yes I do, no I'm not sure if I'm going to share them.
What did he dress up as?
228 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:12:35am |
re: #224 reloadingisnotahobby
...the Dingo ate my post....
229 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:13:57am |
re: #227 ggt
What did he dress up as?
My mom and dad got him a tiger costume, complete with tail. It was THE most adorable thing.
230 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:14:09am |
re: #226 reloadingisnotahobby
Long story...short...
The kids blew up the motor in the Jeep Grand Cherokee
we just bought them...(water pump went out on the freeway)
So I spent 5 weekends and most evenings replacing (by my self...I might add)
with a low mileage (54,000) used motor.
Saved 2500.00 ...but my fingers and knuckels are still healing!
Did you make the kids help?
Dad used to make me help him fix my mistakes. Which was really a way of punishing me without punishing me because I didn't do anything but sit quietly and patiently while he talked and worked. Well, I had to be a gopher.
231 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:14:33am |
re: #229 thedopefishlives
My mom and dad got him a tiger costume, complete with tail. It was THE most adorable thing.
I like baby tigers.
232 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:14:53am |
This should be interesting to watch tomorrow...
Occupy Oakland plans to shut down city Wednesday
Occupy Oakland has big plans for its general strike Wednesday, hoping to completely shut down the city for the day with anti-capitalist rallies and a march to the Port of Oakland.
Calling for people to “occupy everywhere,” Oakland demonstration organizers are calling for students to walk out of school, employees to leave work, and banks and other corporations to shut down for the day to show the nation’s wealthiest that the people can shut down a major American city.
“The wealth of the 1 percent is produced by the work of the 99 percent,” Occupy Oakland organizer Louise Michel said during a news conference at Broadway and Telegraph Avenue in downtown Oakland. “The people are awake and don’t want to allow the chokehold capitalism has on our lives anymore.”
The general strike is scheduled to begin at 9 a.m., and it would be the first time in 75 years that a mass gathering of labor forces stood together for change. The last general strike in the U.S. was in Oakland in 1946.
233 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:15:00am |
re: #217 ggt
Morning all!
Halloween and come and gone, but there are Butterfingers left-over.
what to do?
...that's a rhetorical...yes?
234 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:15:17am |
re: #226 reloadingisnotahobby
Long story...short...
The kids blew up the motor in the Jeep Grand Cherokee
we just bought them...(water pump went out on the freeway)
So I spent 5 weekends and most evenings replacing (by my self...I might add)
with a low mileage (54,000) used motor.
Saved 2500.00 ...but my fingers and knuckels are still healing!
Oh, nicely done. At least you were nice enough to replace it for them. My dad would've said, "Here's the motor, there's the wrenches, get to it."
235 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:16:13am |
re: #230 ggt
No...then it would have taken 8 weekends....
236 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:18:11am |
re: #234 thedopefishlives
I had my arms and hands in places that took a few minutes to figure out how to remove them....It's been 32 years since I R and R'd a V8...or any other motor!
...Damn I still got it!!
237 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:19:28am |
"The Republican Party's effort to choose a candidate to take on Barack Obama increasingly resembles speed-dating, with party loyalists giving swift consideration to candidate after candidate, before getting restless and moving on to the next prospect," writes Gideon Rachman in The Financial Times.
238 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:19:48am |
re: #236 reloadingisnotahobby
I had my arms and hands in places that took a few minutes to figure out how to remove them...It's been 32 years since I R and R'd a V8...or any other motor!
...Damn I still got it!!
I've never had to drop a motor yet. Closest I've come to that was when I burned up the transmission in my '94 Chevy, but I couldn't find the money or motivation to get another one and replace it myself, so I just sold the truck instead.
239 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:20:43am |
re: #229 thedopefishlives
My mom and dad got him a tiger costume, complete with tail. It was THE most adorable thing.
I also got my grandson a Tiger costume!
240 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:20:46am |
re: #231 ggt
I like baby tigers.
My wifes youngest daycare baby come dressed as a little Elephant...
trunk,round little feet and ....For cuuuute!
241 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:21:04am |
re: #238 thedopefishlives
I've never had to drop a motor yet. Closest I've come to that was when I burned up the transmission in my '94 Chevy, but I couldn't find the money or motivation to get another one and replace it myself, so I just sold the truck instead.
Luckily, when I started driving, my Dad owned an auto repair shop.
:)
242 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:21:37am |
re: #238 thedopefishlives
... Thank alot ...I think I bought that truck...LOL
243 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:24:16am |
re: #241 ggt
Right on...I never thought to put a floor lift in when I built my shop!!
....Hind sight and all...
244 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:25:22am |
re: #241 ggt
Luckily, when I started driving, my Dad owned an auto repair shop.
:)
Well, it wouldn't have been so bad if I was close by my dad's, as he has tools and workspace for doing heavy-duty projects like pulling engines and dropping transmissions. However, it was a bit of a stretch to get the truck 550 miles from here to there, fix it, and bring it all the way back. And it was going to be a dubious prospect at best to drop the transmission in my garage.
245 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:26:46am |
246 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:27:29am |
BREAKING:
Flight From Newark Crash Lands In Poland
WARSAW -- A Boeing 767 from Newark, N.J., to Poland operated by national carrier LOT with 230 people on board made a crash landing in Warsaw on Tuesday, TVN24 reported.
No one was injured, the report said.
Video footage showed the plane touching down without landing gear. It slid along the runway on its belly before grinding to a halt. Emergency services rushed to put out a small fire, the report said.The plane circled over the airport in the Polish capital for more than an hour but could not get the landing gear to work. It then dumped fuel before making an emergency landing, the report said.
Read more: [Link: www.tvn24.pl...]
247 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:30:02am |
re: #245 sattv4u2
BBQ'd or baked?
in pictures and at the zoo, in the wild.
I'd love to cuddle one, but I'd have to give it back eventually.
248 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:30:31am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area (now, with more homes attached to the grid - mine included). We've still got a couple million people without power across the region, but at least the weather is nicer and not nearly as cold as it was. Still a crappy situation.
We got power back overnight. Now have to deal with the tree limbs down and that should be fun.
Meanwhile, Jon Corzine's got to be squirming more than a bit after regulators have found that MF Global was improperly using client money in trying to backstop its losing bond bets. They've got to account for $700+ million - and that they don't know where the money is is a staggering mess, and shows failings of both the regulators and the brokerage.
Heads must roll. You do not mess with client accounts and commingle funds. Yet, that's what appeared to have happened here. Club Fed can't come fast enough for those involved.
249 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:30:57am |
re: #232 NJDhockeyfan
This should be interesting to watch tomorrow...
I doubt much is going to happen. Even if a few unions join it won't be much more than a blip.
250 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:31:47am |
The wind is picking up and I have mountains of leaves to move...
so they land on some on elses yard/property....I love Fall!!
...I'm a "Stinker"!!;-)
251 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:34:48am |
re: #248 lawhawk
Didn't someone in NYC (city commissioner maybe) pass or try to pass a law were people have to do perp walks? Or do I have that backward?
252 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:35:43am |
re: #251 Cannadian Club Akbar
Didn't someone in NYC (city commissioner maybe) pass or try to pass a law were people have to do perp walks? Or do I have that backward?
Nope. A ban on them.
[Link: articles.cnn.com...]
253 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:36:52am |
re: #251 Cannadian Club Akbar
Didn't someone in NYC (city commissioner maybe) pass or try to pass a law were people have to do perp walks? Or do I have that backward?
They have to walk backwards in cuffs !?!?!
254 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:37:33am |
re: #253 sattv4u2
They have to walk backwards in cuffs !?!?!
Yes. That way they can see where they've been.
255 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:39:06am |
re: #254 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yes. That way they can see where they've been.
...better to see who's behind you anyway....wait...what?
256 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:41:24am |
Scumbag of the day...
Kent State University president slams anti-Israel professor
(JTA) -- The president of Kent State University decried the behavior of a professor who shouted "death to Israel" during a lecture given by a former Israeli diplomat.
Ishmael Khaldi, the former deputy consul general at the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco, was confronted by Kent State University history professor Julio Pino during a question-and-answer session following Khaldi's speech at a campus event last week. Khaldi was speaking about his life as a Bedouin in Israel who rose through the ranks of the Foreign Ministry, as well as Middle East issues.
Pino, a convert to Islam and a tenured professor, asked Khaldi how the Israeli government could justify providing aid to countries like Turkey -- to which Israel recently sent earthquake aid -- with “blood money” from the deaths of Palestinian children. After briefly arguing with Khaldi, Pino left the auditorium shouting “Death to Israel.” An audience member responded by shouting “Shame on you” after him.
KSU President Lester Lefton said in a letter published on the university's website that Pino's behavior was "reprehensible, and an embarrassment to our university."
257 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:41:50am |
re: #255 reloadingisnotahobby
...better to see who's behind you anyway...wait...what?
Na. Just take the honeybun offered and wait for the next guy. Wait. What?
///
258 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:44:44am |
259 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:45:00am |
Some people have absolutely nothing to do...
Fans Erect a Shrine to Kim Kardashian’s Short, Lucrative Marriage
260 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:45:20am |
re: #248 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area (now, with more homes attached to the grid - mine included). We've still got a couple million people without power across the region, but at least the weather is nicer and not nearly as cold as it was. Still a crappy situation.
We got power back overnight. Now have to deal with the tree limbs down and that should be fun.
Meanwhile, Jon Corzine's got to be squirming more than a bit after regulators have found that MF Global was improperly using client money in trying to backstop its losing bond bets. They've got to account for $700+ million - and that they don't know where the money is is a staggering mess, and shows failings of both the regulators and the brokerage.
Heads must roll. You do not mess with client accounts and commingle funds. Yet, that's what appeared to have happened here. Club Fed can't come fast enough for those involved.
It's going to take years for all the heads to roll. In 5 years, people will be saying "why are we spending money to prosecute these guys?". People will have already forgotten.
261 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:46:48am |
re: #259 NJDhockeyfan
Some people have absolutely nothing to do...
Fans Erect a Shrine to Kim Kardashian’s Short, Lucrative Marriage
And the rest of the world says "Kim Who?"
262 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:47:08am |
re: #259 NJDhockeyfan
Some people have absolutely nothing to do...
Fans Erect a Shrine to Kim Kardashian’s Short, Lucrative Marriage
Those people need to join a blog.
///
263 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:49:50am |
re: #262 Cannadian Club Akbar
It was ...72 days??
Not exactly a record....I'll give her an "E" for effort tho....
264 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:52:50am |
One of the things I really don't like about getting old:
Body says, "Go lay on the heating pad"
Mind says, "Go do your Physical Therapy Exercises"
265 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:53:40am |
re: #263 reloadingisnotahobby
It was ...72 days??
Not exactly a record...I'll give her an "E" for effort tho...
Kim Kardashian Divorce: Plans To Block Kris Humphries' Bid For Spousal Support
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Heh.
267 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:54:47am |
re: #263 reloadingisnotahobby
It was ...72 days??
Not exactly a record...I'll give her an "E" for effort tho...
It was just for money...$17.9 million worth. Not a bad payday for 2 1/2 months of faking love.
268 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:55:23am |
269 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:56:23am |
re: #267 NJDhockeyfan
It was just for money...$17.9 million worth. Not a bad payday for 2 1/2 months of faking love.
For him? That would rock. Considering he is currently unemployed.
270 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:56:47am |
re: #267 NJDhockeyfan
It was just for money...$17.9 million worth. Not a bad payday for 2 1/2 months of faking love.
If I had spent money on a a dress and gift to attend the wedding, I'd want a refund.
I would never complain about buying new shoes tho.
;0
271 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:56:47am |
re: #267 NJDhockeyfan
George Takei had it right yesterday.
Kim Kardashian files for divorce after 72 days. Another example of how same-sex marriage is destroying the sanctity of the very institution.
272 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 7:58:26am |
re: #267 NJDhockeyfan
It was just for money...$17.9 million worth. Not a bad payday for 2 1/2 months of faking love.
Can't imagine there's many guys that wouldn't stick their dick in crazy for that kind of a haul.
274 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:01:28am |
276 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:03:50am |
Alrighty. going for a quick walk. bbiab.
277 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:04:20am |
Must be the first Tuesday of the Month.
Siren is being tested.
278 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:04:55am |
re: #277 ggt
Must be the first Tuesday of the Month.
Siren is being tested.
Uh...
That would be my bad...
You may want to duck under a desk...
279 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:05:33am |
re: #278 Varek Raith
Uh...
That would be my bad...
You may want to duck under a desk...
VAREK! WHAT have you been doing?
280 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:06:29am |
re: #275 NJDhockeyfan
Do you think the cops are purposefully not arresting people for rape or something? That's a kind of serious charge to make against them.
281 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:07:48am |
re: #276 Cannadian Club Akbar
Alrighty. going for a quick walk. bbiab.
Not if you take a long one off a short pier!
282 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:10:11am |
283 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:10:28am |
284 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:11:07am |
re: #282 Varek Raith
Cat jumped on the Doomsday Console™.
Well, that explains the large crater in my back yard this morning.
285 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:12:01am |
re: #275 NJDhockeyfan
A young girl at OWS describes assaults and rapes happening at Zuccotti Park. One of the rape victims was a blind man. The crime at that park needs to stop. When will they let the police go in and make arrests?
[Video]
I was just reading up on the security problems. I think a large part of the problem is that these parks are public and the protesters can't just take them over and decide who stays and who goes. I think the whole idea of camping in urban parks is probably not the best idea.
286 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:13:55am |
re: #280 Obdicut
Do you think the cops are purposefully not arresting people for rape or something? That's a kind of serious charge to make against them.
If the victim (or a witness) doesn't report it who are the cops supposed to arrest?
287 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:14:15am |
re: #280 Obdicut
Do you think the cops are purposefully not arresting people for rape or something? That's a kind of serious charge to make against them.
I believe the protester are telling everyone not to report any crimes because they want to police themselves.
288 | Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:14:59am |
re: #275 NJDhockeyfan
A young girl at OWS describes assaults and rapes happening at Zuccotti Park. One of the rape victims was a blind man. The crime at that park needs to stop. When will they let the police go in and make arrests?
[Video]
Great. Linking to some Lee Stranahan video. That asshole is known for making shit up including being some anti-LGF douche bag. Congratulations.
289 | I Am Kreniigh! Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:15:22am |
re: #81 RogueOne
Anonymous Threatens Mexico’s Murderous Drug Lords
[Link: www.wired.com...]
See, now THAT's how you get a TV show.
290 | Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:15:55am |
re: #288 Gus 802
Great. Linking to some Lee Stranahan video. That asshole is known for making shit up including being some anti-LGF douche bag. Congratulations.
For example:
Little Green Idiot
May 31, 2011 · 9 comments
For a prime example of the whiplash stoopid that the left is going through on the Weinergate story, look no further than Charles Johnson. This is verbatim from the Breitbart-hater’s website.
291 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:18:07am |
re: #288 Gus 802
Great. Linking to some Lee Stranahan video. That asshole is known for making shit up including being some anti-LGF douche bag. Congratulations.
292 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:18:07am |
re: #288 Gus 802
Is your theory that the woman is a plant making things up? Are her statements being taken out of context? I'm all in favor of being suspicious of wingnut videos but her statements match up with much of what we already know. There's a fairly serious problem. Somebody is going to have to deal with it.
293 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:18:39am |
re: #290 Gus 802
Hmm. I usually don't mind the hostile sources, but LS does not have credibility, Breitbart flunky that he is. Maybe the girl is real but let's see some supporting evidence.
294 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:19:12am |
re: #280 Obdicut
A NY Daily News editorialist made those types of claims yesterday- that the NYPD was encouraging homeless to go down to the park and raise a ruckus/mooch food/get warm/etc.
The NYPD vigorously denied those claims and notes that no one is stopping anyone from coming to the park.
Didn't claim that the NYPD was turning a blind eye to crime within the park though. And there have been instances where the NYPD has gone into the park to deal with criminal activity and some of the protesters haven't exactly been welcoming, even when they're doing their job and ridding the place of alleged criminals (such as those involved in assaults, threats, etc.)
The General Assembly also posted new rules/guidelines of conduct for those in the park, but it'll be interesting to see whether the protesters are able to enforce it in any meaningful way.
295 | Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:19:23am |
Fact Checking Breitbart’s Camp Followers - The Sandwich Board Assumption
Andrew Breitbart camp follower Lee Stranahan is our case in point. This week he’s been spinning like an Iranian centrifuge, trying to deflect attention away from Breitbart’s reckless and totally irresponsible behavior in any way possible.
296 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:19:50am |
re: #288 Gus 802
Great. Linking to some Lee Stranahan video. That asshole is known for making shit up including being some anti-LGF douche bag. Congratulations.
I didn't know that. I clicked on his name and saw he blogs on HuffPo.
297 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:19:55am |
And so it begins.
Protesters identified the three deputies based on preraid video that showed them from a closer and less chaotic standpoint — near enough to make their nametags visible.
The head of the union that represents sheriff’s deputies said activists circulated one deputy’s home address online. The union has requested it be removed.
The Sheriff’s Department said an internal investigation unit is reviewing the incident, but it’s unlikely the identified deputies caused Olsen’s injury. Spokeswoman Eileen Hirst said 35 of the 37 Sheriff’s Department personnel on site for the raid were not carrying projectiles, and the two who were equipped with them did not fire.
Hirst also said the department has a policy against deputies using weapons for which they are not trained, or borrowing weapons from other law enforcement during a raid situation.
298 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:20:55am |
Look, it's real simple.
Don't link to a wingnut source for credible info. If it happened, it'll be in other, more credible sources.
No?
299 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:21:32am |
I need technical help.
All of the sudden, I don't know why, I can't open downloaded files. Like this one.
My mac wants ME to tell IT how to open it --excell, word, unicode, whatever. None of which work. I get pages of gobbledygook.
I have the current version of adobe installed. I just re installed it.
HELP, PLEEZ!
300 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:21:37am |
re: #292 Killgore Trout
Is your theory that the woman is a plant making things up? Are her statements being taken out of context? I'm all in favor of being suspicious of wingnut videos but her statements match up with much of what we already know. There's a fairly serious problem. Somebody is going to have to deal with it.
At this point I do not exclude outright the suspicions of fakery from the Breitbart camp. O'Keefe, anyone? Well, OK, I think this may be real, but "may be" is not good enough.
301 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:22:26am |
re: #294 lawhawk
A NY Daily News editorialist made those types of claims yesterday- that the NYPD was encouraging homeless to go down to the park and raise a ruckus/mooch food/get warm/etc.
The NYPD vigorously denied those claims and notes that no one is stopping anyone from coming to the park.
Didn't claim that the NYPD was turning a blind eye to crime within the park though. And there have been instances where the NYPD has gone into the park to deal with criminal activity and some of the protesters haven't exactly been welcoming, even when they're doing their job and ridding the place of alleged criminals (such as those involved in assaults, threats, etc.)
The General Assembly also posted new rules/guidelines of conduct for those in the park, but it'll be interesting to see whether the protesters are able to enforce it in any meaningful way.
Wasn't there a story out a few weeks ago about criminals getting out of prison are heading straight for the park? That would explain a lot of the crime out there.
304 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:23:27am |
re: #280 Obdicut
Do you think the cops are purposefully not arresting people for rape or something? That's a kind of serious charge to make against them.
sounds a lot like the faux-horror reports we heard from NOLA. All those (non-white stereotypical) people cooped up in the stadium. Prime for scandal mongers.
305 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:24:11am |
re: #299 ggt
I need technical help.
All of the sudden, I don't know why, I can't open downloaded files. Like this one.
My mac wants ME to tell IT how to open it --excell, word, unicode, whatever. None of which work. I get pages of gobbledygook.
I have the current version of adobe installed. I just re installed it.
HELP, PLEEZ!
Did you restart your Web browser after reinstalling Adobe?
Also, see if you can find the Adobe Reader application in the list to read it with. I don't know if Mac has this setting, but in Windows, you can tell it to remember to open that type of file with that program.
306 | Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:24:25am |
re: #304 ggt
sounds a lot like the faux-horror reports we heard from NOLA. All those (non-white stereotypical) people cooped up in the stadium. Prime for scandal mongers.
Exactly. I was thinking about the same thing.
307 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:24:26am |
re: #298 Varek Raith
Look, it's real simple.
Don't link to a wingnut source for credible info. If it happened, it'll be in other, more credible sources.
No?
More or less. There probably will be some follow up from the more credible sources, and then we can discuss it on less shaky grounds.
308 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:24:32am |
re: #288 Gus 802
Great. Linking to some Lee Stranahan video. That asshole is known for making shit up including being some anti-LGF douche bag. Congratulations.
A new film project?
my, some people have lots of time on their hands.
309 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:25:32am |
re: #298 Varek Raith
Look, it's real simple.
Don't link to a wingnut source for credible info. If it happened, it'll be in other, more credible sources.
No?
It is possible that a source caught something that may not be picked up in other media outlets until much later. The veracity of the source has to be considered in whether to give it much weight.
I'd give the allegations limited credence unless other sources follow up and verify the allegations.
310 | funky chicken Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:25:53am |
Well, I have to agree with him about Hugo Chavez.
Otherwise, yeah, he's pretty euphoric. Exhaustion, drugs, or alcohol are all possible explanations. He doesn't set off my gaydar, and I was expecting him to after reading some commentary about the video.
311 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:26:48am |
re: #305 thedopefishlives
Did you restart your Web browser after reinstalling Adobe?
Also, see if you can find the Adobe Reader application in the list to read it with. I don't know if Mac has this setting, but in Windows, you can tell it to remember to open that type of file with that program.
ah, will restart, thanks!
313 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:27:46am |
re: #301 NJDhockeyfan
Don't buy it. I understand that homeless folks have a grapevine and that they'll go where they can get free food and not worry about the NYPD accosting them. That could explain far more than the NYPD actively pushing homeless to go to Zuccotti Park or that criminals are rushing to Zuccotti once they're released because of the easy pickings (lots of tech stuff present).
315 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:30:08am |
re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He's got a contract that was based on fraudulent actions and was imposed and signed by himself. He gave himself that contract. There was no oversight, except by the others involved in the scandal.
It's going to be voided contract, and he'll have little chance of winning back that money. If he does, expect another suit (which the Bell CA residents can't afford) to sue for restitution or similar grounds.
316 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:30:22am |
re: #309 lawhawk
It is possible that a source caught something that may not be picked up in other media outlets until much later. The veracity of the source has to be considered in whether to give it much weight.
I'd give the allegations limited credence unless other sources follow up and verify the allegations.
Here is an article reporting similar stories...
Demonstrators said they are dealing with the sexual assault of a woman internally after she was attacked by a man in her tent in the early hours of the morning.
It is the second alleged sexual assault at the camp, which organisers have warned is attracting prisoners straight out of Rikers, but have refused to call police.
The woman was in her tent at around 6am yesterday when the man burst into her tent and attacked her.
Fellow protesters surrounded the man and shone flashlights in his face before chasing him out of Zuccotti park where they are staying.
'We don't tell anyone, we handle it internally,' a protester told the New York Post, adding that another woman was raped weeks earlier.
She said that fellow protesters were 'yelling at him to leave,' shouting 'pervert, pervert, get the f**k out.'
Organisers have raised concerns that the camp is becoming a refuge for homeless people and is attracting convicts fresh out of Rikers prison.
'They're telling people who leave prison to go to Zuccotti park, ' Daniel Zetah, leader of the Occupy Wall Street community-relations group told the newspaper.
The newly-released criminals are thought be attracted by the free accommodation and food, and reported alcohol and drug-fuelled parties taking place at the site.
'There's a lot of drugs, alcohol, assault [and] theft [by] the homeless groups coming in. We've had meetings all day to brainstorm what to do,' Mr Zetah said.
317 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:30:23am |
318 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:31:04am |
re: #315 lawhawk
From your keyboard to God's monitor.
319 | Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:32:18am |
Now the Daily Fail. The same outfit that brought you the Climategate bullshit.
We're on a roll here this morning.
320 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:32:49am |
re: #319 Gus 802
Now the Daily Fail. The same outfit that brought you the Climategate bullshit.
We're on a roll here this morning.
Next up, The Onion./
321 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:33:42am |
re: #319 Gus 802
Now the Daily Fail. The same outfit that brought you the Climategate bullshit.
We're on a roll here this morning.
I guess everyone is making this shit up. Zuccotti park is actually full of rainbows & unicorns.
322 | Interesting Times Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:34:26am |
re: #306 Gus 802
323 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:35:02am |
re: #287 NJDhockeyfan
I believe the protester are telling everyone not to report any crimes because they want to police themselves.
Oh. Why do you believe that?
324 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:35:42am |
re: #316 NJDhockeyfan
There's enough people who are among the protesters who distrust the NYPD and any authority to make stuff up - like the claims about the NYPD sending people right from Rikers. That simply doesn't pass the smell test.
325 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:35:46am |
re: #294 lawhawk
A NY Daily News editorialist made those types of claims yesterday- that the NYPD was encouraging homeless to go down to the park and raise a ruckus/mooch food/get warm/etc.
The NYPD vigorously denied those claims and notes that no one is stopping anyone from coming to the park.
Didn't claim that the NYPD was turning a blind eye to crime within the park though. And there have been instances where the NYPD has gone into the park to deal with criminal activity and some of the protesters haven't exactly been welcoming, even when they're doing their job and ridding the place of alleged criminals (such as those involved in assaults, threats, etc.)
The General Assembly also posted new rules/guidelines of conduct for those in the park, but it'll be interesting to see whether the protesters are able to enforce it in any meaningful way.
A place of Do-what-you-want often seems to rapidly shade over into Take-what-you-want.
326 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:37:40am |
re: #294 lawhawk
I really doubt the cops are even herding the homeless that way. I think that word-of-mouth about the free food is enough to get them down there. And I also think they have a perfect right to that free food, too. I don't get some-- only some-- of the protesters objecting to the homeless, the most destitute and fucked-over population, getting fed.
After that snowstorm, I'm impressed anyone is still there.
327 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:37:45am |
re: #319 Gus 802
Now the Daily Fail. The same outfit that brought you the Climategate bullshit.
We're on a roll here this morning.
Any anti-OWS source is a good source.
//
328 | bratwurst Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:37:57am |
re: #322 publicityStunted
Something about OWS causes otherwise reasonable people to believe anything negative, no matter how dubious the source.
330 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:39:30am |
re: #305 thedopefishlives
Did you restart your Web browser after reinstalling Adobe?
Also, see if you can find the Adobe Reader application in the list to read it with. I don't know if Mac has this setting, but in Windows, you can tell it to remember to open that type of file with that program.
YOU ARE AWESOME,
thank you,
all is good.
331 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:40:05am |
re: #323 Obdicut
Oh. Why do you believe that?
'We don't tell anyone, we handle it internally,' a protester told the New York Post, adding that another woman was raped weeks earlier
332 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:41:11am |
re: #313 lawhawk
Don't buy it. I understand that homeless folks have a grapevine and that they'll go where they can get free food and not worry about the NYPD accosting them. That could explain far more than the NYPD actively pushing homeless to go to Zuccotti Park or that criminals are rushing to Zuccotti once they're released because of the easy pickings (lots of tech stuff present).
Like the old HOBO sign language?
333 | Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:41:13am |
Incidentally, that video is featured on Andrew Breitbart's Big Government site of which Lee Stranhan is a writer and it also being promoted by Jim "Dim" Hoft. This isn't by accident.
334 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:41:40am |
re: #330 ggt
YOU ARE AWESOME,
thank you,
all is good.
*blush*
You're too kind, seriously. Anything I can do to help.
336 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:44:19am |
re: #331 NJDhockeyfan
'We don't tell anyone, we handle it internally,' a protester told the New York Post, adding that another woman was raped weeks earlier
So you believe something because one person told the New York Post that?
Zucotti Park had, when I was there, a very diverse bunch of people. Nobody could possibly speak for all of them. I think it's as silly to say anything blanket about them as it is to say about frat guys or suchlike.
337 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:45:28am |
As long as their aren't "security personnel" at the entrance to the park preventing protestors from leaving -- I don't see how crime could persist and protestors would stay.
338 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:46:22am |
re: #334 thedopefishlives
*blush*
You're too kind, seriously. Anything I can do to help.
hmmm . . . anything?
:)
339 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:47:50am |
Remember, NYC is some vast undisciplined urban literal jungle to much of the world. Much like Chicago is full of gangsters with Tommy Guns . . . .
The meme will not go away. And propaganda machines will work it.
340 | Lidane Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:48:28am |
re: #331 NJDhockeyfan
New York Post = Rupert Murdoch
You might as well call OK! Magazine a valid source.
341 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:48:56am |
re: #339 ggt
I was surprised, after arriving in New York, at how tame it is. Even most of Harlem, for me-- granted I'm a six foot tall dude-- is completely fine during the day, and only a little sketchy at night. Apparently it used to be a hell of a lot worse.
I'd feel safer leaving a 20 year old girl at Zuccotti park than I would a Fiji frat party, that's for sure.
342 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:49:15am |
re: #338 ggt
hmmm . . . anything?
:)
Legal disclaimer: The term "anything" is used in a subjective sense and should not be taken to mean anything which Client could request from Contractor, including but not limited to acts which are prohibited by law and items listed in Addendum 14 attached to the end of this document.
343 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:50:22am |
re: #340 Lidane
New York Post = Rupert Murdoch
You might as well call OK! Magazine a valid source.
Or Fux News.
344 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:50:37am |
re: #341 Obdicut
I was surprised, after arriving in New York, at how tame it is. Even most of Harlem, for me-- granted I'm a six foot tall dude-- is completely fine during the day, and only a little sketchy at night. Apparently it used to be a hell of a lot worse.
I'd feel safer leaving a 20 year old girl at Zuccotti park than I would a Fiji frat party, that's for sure.
I think it's as silly to say anything blanket about them as it is to say about frat guys or suchlike.
Hmmmm
345 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:51:54am |
Zucotti Park is not Central Park.
Unlike Central Park (which is probably what is in the imaginations of many non-New Yorkers).
346 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:52:31am |
re: #342 thedopefishlives
Legal disclaimer: The term "anything" is used in a subjective sense and should not be taken to mean anything which Client could request from Contractor, including but not limited to acts which are prohibited by law and items listed in Addendum 14 attached to the end of this document.
I was thinking in terms of chocolate.
:)
347 | Lidane Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:52:43am |
re: #337 ggt
As long as their aren't "security personnel" at the entrance to the park preventing protestors from leaving -- I don't see how crime could persist and protestors would stay.
Because libruls and hippies will tolerate anything, even crime!
You know, like they always do in the wingnut fantasy world.
348 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:53:40am |
re: #346 ggt
I was thinking in terms of chocolate.
:)
Yeah, sorry, that's on the reserved list. Only the Mrs. Fish and a select list of Mrs. Fish-approved relatives are allowed to receive chocolate.
349 | Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:53:45am |
From the same "news" outfits and wingnut blogs that brought you:
• Climategate BS
• Planned Parenthood BS
• ACORN BS
• Shirley Sherrod BS
• Every other fake wingnut "news" story fit to print.
Nice standards there. Might as well go for the gusto and start using Pravda or Russia Today as a source.
350 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:53:50am |
re: #347 Lidane
You know, like they always do in the wingnut fantasy world.
I know, someone might be smoking some of that wacky weed and you know how hyped-up people get when they do that.
cue -Reefer Madness.
/
351 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:54:02am |
re: #348 thedopefishlives
Yeah, sorry, that's on the reserved list. Only the Mrs. Fish and a select list of Mrs. Fish-approved relatives are allowed to receive chocolate.
:(
353 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:54:33am |
354 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:56:14am |
re: #345 ggt
It's not just pretty open, there's no fencing (though there are now NYPD barriers limiting access midblock), but the sidewalks are completely accessible and this isn't a limited access park as in Central or Prospect Park, where you have designated entry points. Once you cross onto the block containing the park, you're free to go anywhere within the confines of the park, and I've availed myself of that opportunity on more than a few occasions to take photos of the situation there.
355 | Lidane Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:56:21am |
re: #349 Gus 802
Might as well go for the gusto and start using Pravda or Russia Today as a source.
And be like the rest of the drive-by media? No thank you!
Why do you hate America?
356 | reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:56:31am |
re: #304 ggt
sounds a lot like the faux-horror reports we heard from NOLA. All those (non-white stereotypical) people cooped up in the stadium. Prime for scandal mongers.
The scandal-mongers in that case being the mainstream media and the damned mayor of the city, who repeated those reports as if true.
357 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:58:17am |
re: #341 Obdicut
There are still sketchy areas, but gentrification has reduced those numbers to a few enclaves. Would I recommend walking through Central Park at night? Not really. But Zuccotti is far safer than most areas of the city precisely because of the NYPD presence there - at times it seems like they've got a precinct's worth of cops on station there (plus they've got their eye in the sky, community police units, etc.).
358 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 8:58:42am |
re: #356 reine.de.tout
The scandal-mongers in that case being the mainstream media and the damned mayor of the city, who repeated those reports as if true.
Like Michelle Bachman repeating what some lady told her about her daughter being retarded after getting the Garasil vaccination?
Politicians shouldn't believe their handlers.
359 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:00:04am |
re: #354 lawhawk
It's not just pretty open, there's no fencing (though there are now NYPD barriers limiting access midblock), but the sidewalks are completely accessible and this isn't a limited access park as in Central or Prospect Park, where you have designated entry points. Once you cross onto the block containing the park, you're free to go anywhere within the confines of the park, and I've availed myself of that opportunity on more than a few occasions to take photos of the situation there.
It really doesn't look, to me, like a Park at all. It's called Plaza in the Wiki, which is a better term if the pictures are accurate. More concrete than tree. Not very comfortable for sleeping bags, IMHO.
360 | Honorary Consul General Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:00:22am |
re: #356 reine.de.tout
The scandal-mongers in that case being the mainstream media and the damned mayor of the city, who repeated those reports as if true.
RETRACTION: The claim in the first sentence in my post was incorrect. I had been told this was happening, but these claims have turned out to be unsubstantiated. I therefore retract them -- but stand behind everything else I wrote without reservation.
It is reported that black hurricane victims in New Orleans have begun eating corpses to survive. Four days after the storm, thousands of blacks in New Orleans are dying like dogs. No-one has come to help them.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
362 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:03:50am |
wrenchwench, are you 2spokie2?
363 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:05:15am |
re: #361 ggt
#275 is disappeared . . .
It's like it never existed.
/These are not the droids you're looking for
364 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:05:39am |
re: #359 ggt
At one point, I believe that they did have more grass and less concrete, but a renovation of the park involved major reconstruction and putting in the current scheme. As you say, it's more of a plaza than park - the trees give a park like atmosphere in places, but it is mostly a granite/concrete space.
365 | CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:05:51am |
re: #337 ggt
As long as their aren't "security personnel" at the entrance to the park preventing protestors from leaving -- I don't see how crime could persist and protestors would stay.
THIS. No New Yorker in their right mind would stay in the park if there were serious threats. New Yorkers aren't wired that way.
Sorry people, but it's beyond absurd to think that that Mayor Bloomberg, Police Commissioner Kelly, and all 51 members of the New York City Council—5 of whom are Republican—would stand silently by while innocent people are being attacked in raped in Zucotti Park day after day.
For those of you not familiar with NYC there are undercover cops everywhere, including in Zucotti Park. I'll guartan-damn-tee you that. With all the terrorist threats floating around they can't afford not to be. If you don't believe me, next time you're in NYC try committing a crime and see if half a dozen cops don't immediately appear as if they magically sprouted up out of the sidewalk.
Get a grip folks. This is shit is getting real old, and you people are smarter than to believe some of this ridiculousness.
Rant over. //
367 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:06:38am |
re: #349 Gus 802
I can completely believe the video is unfabricated, and the girl is sincere and truthful. The story she tells conflicts, however, with the New York Post and other stories; she's saying that the cops are ignoring the protesters requests to remove the assaulters, and that the protesters are doing the best they can to self-police in the absence of police action.
So you can't believe both things at once.
368 | Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:06:54am |
re: #365 CuriousLurker
THIS. No New Yorker in their right mind would stay in the park if there were serious threats. New Yorkers aren't wired that way.
Sorry people, but it's beyond absurd to think that that Mayor Bloomberg, Police Commissioner Kelly, and all 51 members of the New York City Council—5 of whom are Republican—would stand silently by while innocent people are being attacked in raped in Zucotti Park day after day.
For those of you not familiar with NYC there are undercover cops everywhere, including in Zucotti Park. I'll guartan-damn-tee you that. With all the terrorist threats floating around they can't afford not to be. If you don't believe me, next time you're in NYC try committing a crime and see if half a dozen cops don't immediately appear as if they magically sprouted up out of the sidewalk.
Get a grip folks. This is shit is getting real old, and you people are smarter than to believe some of this ridiculousness.
Rant over. //
Bravo CL.
369 | Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:07:16am |
re: #367 Obdicut
I can completely believe the video is unfabricated, and the girl is sincere and truthful. The story she tells conflicts, however, with the New York Post and other stories; she's saying that the cops are ignoring the protesters requests to remove the assaulters, and that the protesters are doing the best they can to self-police in the absence of police action.
So you can't believe both things at once.
I'm not an agnostic.
370 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:08:35am |
Walking Dead, Episode 2. I'm skeert.
371 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:09:20am |
re: #365 CuriousLurker
Zucotti park is also very, very small. Assaulting a girl in a tent is believable, and him being chased off is also believable. But there's always cops within, like, fifty feet-- so if that actually happened, why wouldn't they have done something?
There is just not enough space in Zucotti Park to get away with any sort of violent shit without being spotted quickly.
372 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:09:24am |
re: #363 Killgore Trout
It's like it never existed.
/These are not the droids you're looking for
Do not mention comment #17.
373 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:10:05am |
re: #339 ggt
Remember, NYC is some vast undisciplined urban literal jungle to much of the world. Much like Chicago is full of gangsters with Tommy Guns . . .
The meme will not go away. And propaganda machines will work it.
New York is sophisticated and full of culture!
(But I am from Detroit)
374 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:10:33am |
375 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:11:14am |
re: #365 CuriousLurker
And bear in mind that Zuccotti Park is a block south from Ground Zero. It's within the Ring of Steel network that the NYPD is putting together for Lower Manhattan/Wall Street with sensors and police presence.
They've got a huge presence there. A cry for help would get cops running from the perimeter of the park within a minute (you can't go more than a few yards on the perimeter of the park without bumping in to a cop).
I don't think people have an impression of the size of the place. It's not big at all. We're talking about a park on block that is perhaps 100x 300 feet in size (33k sq ft.). It's tiny by park standards.
376 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:11:22am |
re: #373 Alouette
New York is sophisticated and full of culture!
(But I am from Detroit)
Me too, I can believe the worst of human capabilities.
I also know that Detroit of 1970 is an anomaly, not the entire world.
377 | BishopX Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:11:56am |
Here is a good look at the drug issues in Zucotti park. I think that the right wing attack machine is riffing off of the "hippies are druggies" mean pretty incessantly. Any outrage story (or video) that mentions massive drug problems in passing loses some credibility in my eyes.
378 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:12:12am |
re: #185 Alouette
Does Maariv have an English website? I have not seen it.
The Israeli news sites I visit are YNet and Haaretz. Haaretz has a leftist bias but their straight news stories are generally accurate. YNet is more of a tabloid and they are ferociously biased against the religious population, both the "ultra-Orthodox" and the modern religious Zionist. Arutz Sheva is totally derpy and Jerusalem Post I stay away from because they have destroyed their website with popups, crap ads and hiding most stuff behind a paywall.
I think that JPost has drunk the tea to an extent I find unacceptable, also like Alouette said, the ads are a nuisance in the extreme.
Other than that, I agree with Alouette's analysis, except I would say that Arutz Sheva 'makes shit up', in addition to being derpy.
Maariv is considered respectable, AFAIK.
379 | Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:12:23am |
re: #363 Killgore Trout
It's like it never existed.
/These are not the droids you're looking for
Oh. So Andrew Breitbart "Big Government" droids are worthy of contemplation.
Got it.
380 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:12:54am |
re: #375 lawhawk
And bear in mind that Zuccotti Park is a block south from Ground Zero. It's within the Ring of Steel network that the NYPD is putting together for Lower Manhattan/Wall Street with sensors and police presence.
They've got a huge presence there. A cry for help would get cops running from the perimeter of the park within a minute (you can't go more than a few yards on the perimeter of the park without bumping in to a cop).
I don't think people have an impression of the size of the place. It's not big at all. We're talking about a park on block that is perhaps 100x 300 feet in size (33k sq ft.). It's tiny by park standards.
I know, that's why I posted the google earth maps. It looks like any "Plaza" that can be seen in any big city --a few trees, concrete benches, maybe a fountain or artistic statue. The place you go for a smoke break or to eat your lunch on nice days.
Not a place you take the kids to play or to have a picnic.
381 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:13:25am |
re: #377 BishopX
Here is a good look at the drug issues in Zucotti park. I think that the right wing attack machine is riffing off of the "hippies are druggies" mean pretty incessantly. Any outrage story (or video) that mentions massive drug problems in passing loses some credibility in my eyes.
Well, the massive drug-taking causes the rapes, beatings and murders, you see.
Not enough / in my computer.
383 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:14:06am |
384 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:14:39am |
re: #377 BishopX
Here is a good look at the drug issues in Zucotti park. I think that the right wing attack machine is riffing off of the "hippies are druggies" mean pretty incessantly. Any outrage story (or video) that mentions massive drug problems in passing loses some credibility in my eyes.
OMG, someone had a hangover?
385 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:14:41am |
re: #188 Alouette
My son has encountered a few anti-Semites. He regards it as a challenge to confront them. For example, he was walking along a main street in Moscow (I forget which Ring it was) and some skinhead yelled out Zhid! He went over to the guy (of course with his bodyguard Vitaly) and started a conversation. Then the guy said he didn't really hate Jews but he hated Americans. And my son said "and yet here you are, eating at a McDonald's and wearing Gap clothes."
Famous story (among some) that at one point Condi Rice was in Russia (many years ago), with some colleagues. They were speaking English among themselves, and a man pointed them out to his son and said, in Russian, 'look at the Americans! Now, at home, they would not be allowed to be friendly like this, black and white together,', whereupon Condi turned and said in good Russian, "Sir, that's not true, please don't give your son that impression."
386 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:15:15am |
387 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:15:35am |
re: #382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Technically, you're not allowed to smoke in parks as of this past May.
388 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:16:25am |
re: #385 SanFranciscoZionist
LOL.
389 | CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:18:49am |
re: #371 Obdicut
Zucotti park is also very, very small. Assaulting a girl in a tent is believable, and him being chased off is also believable. But there's always cops within, like, fifty feet-- so if that actually happened, why wouldn't they have done something?
There is just not enough space in Zucotti Park to get away with any sort of violent shit without being spotted quickly.
I can believe there are rapes & assaults in NYC parks. Sadly, it's a fairly common occurrence. What I can't believe is that the people in charge of running NYC—who happen to be experts at dealing with crowds, protests, etc.—wouldn't be 200% aware of the possible dangers of citizens staying in the park overnight. I also can't believe that they'd would let serious crimes go on for weeks on end. Or that all these things are happening, yet somehow the mainstream media is ignoring the stories. It defies credulity.
Plus, I'm sick of lurking, and the bullshit sniping over the past couple of weeks is really getting on my last fucking nerve. It's like all of a sudden we're in junior high school and no one can have a rational adult conversation about this. WTF, Lizards? ENOUGH ALREADY.
390 | CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:20:24am |
re: #375 lawhawk
And bear in mind that Zuccotti Park is a block south from Ground Zero. It's within the Ring of Steel network that the NYPD is putting together for Lower Manhattan/Wall Street with sensors and police presence.
They've got a huge presence there. A cry for help would get cops running from the perimeter of the park within a minute (you can't go more than a few yards on the perimeter of the park without bumping in to a cop).
I don't think people have an impression of the size of the place. It's not big at all. We're talking about a park on block that is perhaps 100x 300 feet in size (33k sq ft.). It's tiny by park standards.
Exactly.
391 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:21:45am |
re: #389 CuriousLurker
I think it helps a lot to have actually been to Zucotti Park. It makes some of the scenarios-- like the cops refusing to come to the aid of the protesters or there being a lot of assaults-- very obviously impossible. I mean, unless you really think that the cops are purposefully trying to make the situation worse, which I don't for a minute.
392 | darthstar Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:22:33am |
Okay...just saw the video of New Hampshire where Perry's sloshing about the stage...fucker's as drunk as George Bush was at his daughters' baptism.
I like alcohol abusing politicians...they're fun...when they're not in power.
393 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:23:38am |
re: #232 NJDhockeyfan
This should be interesting to watch tomorrow...
You mean, as the city of Oakland mostly doesn't repond to calls for a general strike?
394 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:24:04am |
re: #392 darthstar
Okay...just saw the video of New Hampshire where Perry's sloshing about the stage...fucker's as drunk as George Bush was at his daughters' baptism.
I like alcohol abusing politicians...they're fun...when they're not in power.
George II was clean and sober. I liked that about him.
Probably made it more difficult to work deals with Congress Critters.
395 | CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:25:18am |
re: #391 Obdicut
I think it helps a lot to have actually been to Zucotti Park. It makes some of the scenarios-- like the cops refusing to come to the aid of the protesters or there being a lot of assaults-- very obviously impossible. I mean, unless you really think that the cops are purposefully trying to make the situation worse, which I don't for a minute.
Exactly. It is tiny. I've been there before, though not since OWS started. All these rumors are just....*headdesk*
Anyway, I'm going to step away for a while and try to cool off a bit. Need to go to the store anyway. BBL
396 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:26:22am |
I'm stepping away as well.
I need to accomplish something.
Have a great one all!
397 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:27:56am |
re: #392 darthstar
Okay...just saw the video of New Hampshire where Perry's sloshing about the stage...fucker's as drunk as George Bush was at his daughters' baptism.
I like alcohol abusing politicians...they're fun...when they're not in power.
Rachel is right about the damage this will do - he's had a very carefully crafted image in place, that of a somber, stoic politician.
That video pretty much trashes the image. Very un-presidential. It was a performance more fitting for a comedy club.
398 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:28:40am |
re: #397 makeitstop
Maybe he's trying to compete with Cain's jokester personality.
I'd put money on Cain to win that one, though.
399 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:30:22am |
re: #392 darthstar
Funny. Most folks are very forgiving, and are even proud of folks who have overcome addictions.
Some want to accept that even felons/rapists/murderers can be rehabilitated.
But, George Bush's admitted substance problems are met with derision forever.
400 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:30:39am |
re: #287 NJDhockeyfan
I believe the protester are telling everyone not to report any crimes because they want to police themselves.
I doubt it's universal, but I imagine there's an aspect of that. Some people get very excited about the idea of home-made organic justice, without thinking the logistics and ethics through very well.
There was a report out of the Oakland group that they'd beat up some guy who'd attacked another protestor, and tossed him out of camp.
401 | Flounder Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:34:26am |
re: #399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm an alcoholic, not proud of it. I wouldn't want a scarlett A painted on my chest, and I wouldn't wish this disease on anyone else in the world.
402 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:35:42am |
Good grief. So now the anti-OWS smears come directly from Lee Stranahan to get posted at LGF?
Hey, I heard Stranahan really exposed that Little Green Snotballs guy (Chucky, I think his name is) too -- why don't you post those articles?
403 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:36:01am |
re: #321 NJDhockeyfan
I guess everyone is making this shit up. Zuccotti park is actually full of rainbows & unicorns.
The issue is that we know that the Mail and the Post and such will leap on any similar story they can find, and not fact check too closely. They know what they want the story to be.
404 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:37:30am |
re: #363 Killgore Trout
It's like it never existed.
/These are not the droids you're looking for
I'm not going to allow Lee Stranahan's bullshit propaganda to be circulated on my site.
405 | darthstar Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:37:56am |
re: #394 ggt
George II was clean and sober. I liked that about him.
That's debatable. I think his excessive fortressing in Crawford was a way to hide his binges.
406 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:38:07am |
re: #326 Obdicut
I really doubt the cops are even herding the homeless that way. I think that word-of-mouth about the free food is enough to get them down there. And I also think they have a perfect right to that free food, too. I don't get some-- only some-- of the protesters objecting to the homeless, the most destitute and fucked-over population, getting fed.
After that snowstorm, I'm impressed anyone is still there.
The local groups have bragged of feeding the homeless. Agreed, I don't get the people who act as though they're not supposed to be there. If you're going to say that your economic situation is dire enough that you need to be camping on the street to make your point, understand that there are people whose economic situation is so dire that they can't get off the street.
407 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:38:13am |
The woman in the forbidden video claims to be a member of the "community affairs committee" for OWS. I don't think what she has to say about security in the park should be completely dismissed. I don't buy her conspiracy theory that cops are fomenting crime as an excuse to clear the park but she probably has a decent idea of the overall situation. it's also telling that she says that she wouldn't encourage her own daughter to sleep in the park. You can try to sweep this under the rug but it does seem there's something of a problem with the idea of camping in urban parks.
409 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:40:06am |
re: #375 lawhawk
I don't think people have an impression of the size of the place. It's not big at all. We're talking about a park on block that is perhaps 100x 300 feet in size (33k sq ft.). It's tiny by park standards.
Oh for cryin out load!!
That's smaller than our yard!!!!
410 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:40:51am |
re: #402 Charles
Hey, I heard Stranahan really exposed that Little Green Snotballs guy (Chucky, I think his name is) too -- why don't you post those articles?
Gus posted those upthread somewhere.
411 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:41:48am |
re: #407 Killgore Trout
Any videos that come from the Breitbart gang of smear artists are going to be deleted from LGF. You can call it "sweeping it under the rug" if you like -- I call it refusing to be part of a right wing smear job by liars.
412 | Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:42:05am |
re: #410 Killgore Trout
Gus posted those upthread somewhere.
Give me a break. I was shedding light on Stranahan and used a cached link. Apples and oranges. I've done this countless of times in the past. Strawman.
413 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:42:15am |
re: #402 Charles
Good grief. So now the anti-OWS smears come directly from Lee Stranahan to get posted at LGF?
Hey, I heard Stranahan really exposed that Little Green Snotballs guy (Chucky, I think his name is) too -- why don't you post those articles?
Sorry about that Charles. I checked his profile on YouTube and read "I'm Lee Stranahan. I'm a writer, photographer and independent filmmaker and I blog for The Huffington Post ."
I thought he was just a HuffPo member.
414 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:43:00am |
re: #409 reloadingisnotahobby
I don't think people have an impression of the size of the place. It's not big at all. We're talking about a park on block that is perhaps 100x 300 feet in size (33k sq ft.). It's tiny by park standards.
Oh for cryin out load!!
That's smaller than our yard!!!
And somehow we're supposed to believe that the OWS protesters are keeping the NYPD out of the park while assorted mayhem occurs on a daily basis.
Some people will want to believe anything.
416 | sagehen Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:44:51am |
re: #89 RogueOne
Steve Jobs's last words: 'Oh wow. Oh wow. Oh wow'
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]I always figured mine would be "ohshit, ohshit, ohshit!!!"
Mine are likely to be "What does this button do?"
418 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:46:40am |
re: #416 sagehen
I'll probably go quietly in my sleep. The folks in the backseat? Screaming. /
419 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:48:04am |
Look, I have my own problems with OWS. I've made that very clear, and I've also made it very clear that I don't support a lot of the groups that are involved.
But I find it extremely disappointing to see the garbage from Andrew Breitbart's websites and wingnut demagogues being posted here as some kind of unbiased truth about the movement.
There are plenty of real problems you can criticize without buying into the ridiculous bullshit coming out of the right wing.
420 | reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:48:08am |
re: #416 sagehen
Mine...
..."is this speedometer accurate"
..."Hey that things load....."
422 | BishopX Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:50:26am |
re: #399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I give G.W. Bush shit for his substance abuse issues because he is a hypocrite about it. It's okay for daddy's little rich boy to struggle with cocaine and alcohol, overcome it and then expect everyone to forget about it. The same can't be said for the way his administration treated anyone else, from immigrants losing their green cards over drugs to students losing financial aid over drug convictions.
If he had taken a stand a said "what is right for me is right for you" he could have done something great. He didn't and he deserves scorn for that.
423 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:52:57am |
re: #422 BishopX
I give G.W. Bush shit for his substance abuse issues because he is a hypocrite about it.
I don't remember that. What did he say?
425 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:58:20am |
re: #422 BishopX
If I recall? Part of the reason why he was so anti drug.
426 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 10:00:26am |
re: #424 BishopX
Read the rest of the post.
I did. I didn't see where you gave an example of GWB's hypocracy.
428 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 1, 2011 10:03:57am |
re: #426 NJDhockeyfan
I did. I didn't see where you gave an example of GWB's hypocracy.
I think BishopX is saying that GWB is personally responsible for all the "Zero Tolerance" policies of all the various federal, state, county, municipal, private and non-profit organizations that existed during his administration.
429 | Simply Sarah Tue, Nov 1, 2011 10:04:19am |
Bleh, I need to do a better job getting myself to start dinging while moving through older comments, rather than just reading them.
re: #419 Charles
Look, I have my own problems with OWS. I've made that very clear, and I've also made it very clear that I don't support a lot of the groups that are involved.
But I find it extremely disappointing to see the garbage from Andrew Breitbart's websites and wingnut demagogues being posted here as some kind of unbiased truth about the movement.
There are plenty of real problems you can criticize without buying into the ridiculous bullshit coming out of the right wing.
Just so I'm clear, would linking some of their, uh, 'work' still be valid if accompanied by a proper critique and warning of the source, at least if done in moderation? I mean, I'm not the type to normally do it, since I tend to stay as far away from those things as possible, but there's always a first time for everything, I suppose.
430 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 10:06:28am |
re: #407 Killgore Trout
So some of what she says should be dismissed-- the part that's critical about the cops-- but the part that's negative about OWS, that part we should put credibility into?
I can fully believe that dealing with skeezy guys at Zucotti Park is a challenge, because it's a bunch of people in one place, some of them young, some of them on the make. The girl in the video talks about ten or so incidents of 'at least groping', but also notes that any girl that feels unsafe can sleep in the women only part, and the efforts the 'security' people are making to eject and warn people about the assholes.
What more do you want them to actually do?
431 | Simply Sarah Tue, Nov 1, 2011 10:06:41am |
re: #428 Alouette
I think BishopX is saying that GWB is personally responsible for all the "Zero Tolerance" policies of all the various federal, state, county, municipal, private and non-profit organizations that existed during his administration.
Did drug policy really change under him at all? It's not an area I follow very closely, but from what I'm aware of it mostly just seemed like a continuation of the long running War on Drugs crap.
432 | BishopX Tue, Nov 1, 2011 10:07:13am |
re: #428 Alouette
No, just the one he put in place at the federal level (while president) or the state level (while governor). I'll post a list in a bit.
433 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 10:08:37am |
434 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 1, 2011 10:09:51am |
re: #429 Simply Sarah
Just so I'm clear, would linking some of their, uh, 'work' still be valid if accompanied by a proper critique and warning of the source, at least if done in moderation? I mean, I'm not the type to normally do it, since I tend to stay as far away from those things as possible, but there's always a first time for everything, I suppose.
It's important to realize the difference between actual reporting and what the Breitbart crew does. The wingnuts go to OWS NOT to report on the facts, but to find things they can use to smear the movement. They have a very clear agenda, and it's utterly negative.
This is not journalism, and it's not reporting. It's a hit job. They go looking for the worst possible stuff, and they're not above provoking people and faking stories if they don't see anything bad enough.
They simply should not be trusted. What they're doing is not criticism, it's smearing. Obviously.
435 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 1, 2011 10:10:11am |
436 | Simply Sarah Tue, Nov 1, 2011 10:13:42am |
re: #434 Charles
It's important to realize the difference between actual reporting and what the Breitbart crew does. The wingnuts go to OWS NOT to report on the facts, but to find things they can use to smear the movement. They have a very clear agenda, and it's utterly negative.
This is not journalism, and it's not reporting. It's a hit job. They go looking for the worst possible stuff, and they're not above provoking people and faking stories if they don't see anything bad enough.
They simply should not be trusted. What they're doing is not criticism, it's smearing. Obviously.
Oh, I'm very well aware. Sure, sometimes they get lucky with something, but that's very much the exception. I was mostly wondering because it's often important to see what lies those types are spinning, since that's the only way we can counter them if needed.
437 | BishopX Tue, Nov 1, 2011 10:24:56am |
re: #426 NJDhockeyfan
I did. I didn't see where you gave an example of GWB's hypocracy.
The examples I gave were the Fafsa process (which bars students which drug convictions from receiving aid) and the secure communities program (which deports immigrants with drug convictions that wouldn't warrant prison time for a citizen). The fafsa eligibility thing isn't GWB's fault (it's a 1965 era law). But the secure communities program most defiantly is. In addition to those two, as governor he signed a law allowing people with drug conviction to be kicked off welfare, and allowed 14 year old kids to be tried as adults for drug offenses.
438 | Semper Fi Tue, Nov 1, 2011 10:32:49am |
re: #411 Charles
Any videos that come from the Breitbart gang of smear artists are going to be deleted from LGF. You can call it "sweeping it under the rug" if you like -- I call it refusing to be part of a right wing smear job by liars.
Well said.
439 | I Am Kreniigh! Tue, Nov 1, 2011 11:07:30am |
re: #225 NJDhockeyfan
Ugh, the comments on that page are barfy:
"OK…. I can see this movement is going somewhere… It won’t take long before they are full fledged subsidiaries of the unions and what remains of Acorn"
440 | I Am Kreniigh! Tue, Nov 1, 2011 11:25:11am |
re: #380 ggt
I know, that's why I posted the google earth maps. It looks like any "Plaza" that can be seen in any big city --a few trees, concrete benches, maybe a fountain or artistic statue. The place you go for a smoke break or to eat your lunch on nice days.
Not a place you take the kids to play or to have a picnic.
I TOOK MY WIFE AND KIDS TO CENTRAL PARK FOR A PICNIC ONCE!!! AAAAARRRRRGHHHH! - Frank Castle
441 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:41:26am |
re: #82 CuriousLurker
I think I saw a page on that yesterday.
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