Donald Trump is Not Amused by Jon Stewart’s ‘Totally Racist’ Bit
“The tone of his voice, the inflection - UNbelievable”
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surlymarv Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:19:23pm |
I watch the Daily Show, well daily, and I can't even remember what the fuck Trump is talking about. Also when did he go from calling them "the blacks" to the African American community? Side note: why does Trump always look like he's trying to take a shit?
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Kragar Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:20:29pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:20:39pm |
White conservative racism-chasers. e_e
Only in the Age of Obama.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:21:38pm |
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iossarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:21:55pm |
I AM A VERY WHITE MAN AND ON BEHALF OF THE BLACKS I AM OUTRAGED
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:22:00pm |
re: #5 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
White conservative racism-chasers. e_e
Only in the Age of Obama.
Watching the Right get uptight about "racism" and even accusing those who criticize Cain of "racism" has gotta be the biggest "WTF" moment of this election season. It's a might like the KKK getting offended by somebody in blackface.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:24:30pm |
re: #8 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Watching the Right get uptight about "racism" and even accusing those who criticize Cain of "racism" has gotta be the biggest "WTF" moment of this election season. It's a might like the KKK getting offended by somebody in blackface.
Yeah I expect a lot more of this from them. It's all they have.
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iossarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:25:51pm |
re: #9 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Yeah I expect a lot more of this from them. It's all they have.
The "if you don't like Herman Cain you're racist because that's what you said about us for calling Obama a Kenyan Muslim Usurper" line is as predictable as it is tiresome.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:25:59pm |
An individual birther is counted as a racist until (s)he proves otherwise.
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makeitstop Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:28:31pm |
I'd last about 10 seconds in a room with that guy before being compelled to tell him to STFU.
Then I'd mock his hair and his security would bum-rush me out the door.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:29:05pm |
Meanwhile JimRob has another comment on the banning of Romneyites:
By their comments on the page, looks like being pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-constitution, pro-limited government, pro-liberty is an extreme position for the readers of Fox News Nation. Strange, it matches up pretty closely to the official GOP party platform. People with these views used to be called patriotic Americans.
Well guess we'll just have to be happy as gun-toting, bible-thumping, bitterly clinging extremists. I've been called worse. Karl Rove, FOX & Co, can shove their RINO du jour where the sun don't shine!!
1 posted on 02.11.2011 0:05:39 by Jim Robinson
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iossarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:31:00pm |
re: #13 Sergey Romanov
Meanwhile JimRob has another comment on the banning of Romneyites:
Who is JimRob and is the obvious transposition apposite or unfortunate?
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:33:11pm |
re: #13 Sergey Romanov
Meanwhile JimRob has another comment on the banning of Romneyites:
Yeah, I get the feeling that more than a few like Jim are gonna be sitting out this election season if Romney wins the nomination. Or praying for a third-party candidate to run for the presidency.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:33:30pm |
re: #14 iossarian
Who is JimRob and is the obvious transposition apposite or unfortunate?
Freeper-in-Chief. What transposition?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:34:21pm |
re: #13 Sergey Romanov
Meanwhile JimRob has another comment on the banning of Romneyites:
Is Fox Nation banning Romney supporters?
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iossarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:34:24pm |
re: #16 Sergey Romanov
Freeper-in-Chief. What transposition?
I can hardly bring myself to type it. Rim...Job...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:34:46pm |
re: #15 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yeah, I get the feeling that more than a few like Jim are gonna be sitting out this election season if Romney wins the nomination. Or praying for a third-party candidate to run for the presidency.
And who will be a 3rd party? Even someone like Bachmann is too disciplined (IMHO) not to do this.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:34:46pm |
re: #11 Sergey Romanov
An individual birther is counted as a racist until (s)he proves otherwise.
He also has lied about Obama's life, claiming that nobody really knows anything about his past, and that he didn't get into college on the merits.
No clue what his 'inflection' was when he said that shit, though.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:35:01pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:35:21pm |
re: #19 Sergey Romanov
And who will be a 3rd party? Even someone like Bachmann is too disciplined (IMHO) not to do this.
Pray-Away the Third Party Therapy?
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Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:35:31pm |
Lindbergh Baby? Tone of his voice when he said Lindbergh baby?
That's as far as i got because his hair piece was trying to take over my soul again so i had to turn it off. But what the heck was he talking about?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:35:35pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:35:48pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:36:48pm |
re: #25 Killgore Trout
Ah, they tried banning Birthers once upon a time too.
That was RedState IIRC.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:37:12pm |
I'm so tired of Trump "I fucked-up in real estate so now I'm going to pet my ego in popular media". Seriously, go sit on a yacht in the South of France or anything.
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Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:37:20pm |
re: #18 iossarian
But you did, and that's what's important.
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nines09 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:37:23pm |
So whose ass is Donald trying to kiss now? Is his 15 minutes up yet? I thought he'd be somewhere ripping someone off. Must be dry out there. One more glaring example that money cannot buy class. Con man.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:37:24pm |
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jaunte Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:37:51pm |
re: #23 Cankles McCellulite
It doesn't make any sense because Trump doesn't understand the difference between someone making fun of a Republican candidate and a "racist rant."
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:38:12pm |
re: #19 Sergey Romanov
And who will be a 3rd party? Even someone like Bachmann is too disciplined (IMHO) not to do this.
That truly is the $64,000 question. This is the sort of election made for third-party spoilers. Bloomberg springs to mind, but he might also be seen as "too liberal." I'd put Luap Nor as a potential third-party runner, but I'm sure he's set on just seeing his last term in office out, instead of throwing it away to run on the libertarian ticket.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:38:25pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:39:09pm |
re: #32 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
That truly is the $64,000 question. This is the sort of election made for third-party spoilers. Bloomberg springs to mind, but he might also be seen as "too liberal." I'd put Luap Nor as a potential third-party runner, but I'm sure he's set on just seeing his last term in office out, instead of throwing it away to run on the libertarian ticket.
Palin?
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:39:49pm |
Having just watched the Jon Stewart bit on Herman Cain I can honestly say that I perceived no racism whatsoever. None, nada, zip, zero.
I am inclined to believe that Trump is just trying to create an issue where none exists but I'm willing to listen if anyone has a different opinion. The Lindbergh kidnapping was done by white German immigrants so I don't have an effing clue what Mr. Trump is trying to allude to here by calling it racist, I really don't.
Am I a clueless bigoted idiot or is Trump just full of shit?
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Kragar Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:39:52pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:39:55pm |
Blago-hair.
He'd run if he thought people would pay for it.
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:39:58pm |
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makeitstop Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:40:09pm |
re: #33 ggt
The hair, the eyebrows, the lips --the man is a walking parody of himself.
He's a Macy's Thanksgiving float waiting to happen.
OTOH, seeing that mug standing 20 feet tall would scare every kid in America.
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bratwurst Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:41:06pm |
Regarding his calling Chuck Todd "sleepy eyed", I cannot fathom the gall required for Trump OR Rush Limbaugh to constantly be making fun of other people's appearances.
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Varek Raith Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:41:28pm |
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jaunte Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:41:34pm |
re: #35 ausador
Trump completely missed the point of the Lindbergh bit.
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iossarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:41:38pm |
re: #35 ausador
Having just watched the Jon Stewart bit on Herman Cain I can honestly say that I perceived no racism whatsoever. None, nada, zip, zero.
I am inclined to believe that Trump is just trying to create an issue where none exists but I'm willing to listen if anyone has a different opinion. The Lindbergh kidnapping was done by white German immigrants so I don't have an effing clue what Mr. Trump is trying to allude to here by calling it racist, I really don't.
Am I a clueless bigoted idiot or is Trump just full of shit?
I think he's making the classic nutter error, where:
mocking a person who happens to be black for his regressive and uninformed worldview
==
mocking a person because you do not like the color of his skin
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:42:04pm |
re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I think he'll end up like the guy in _Big Trouble in Little China_ and simply not stop one day...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:42:23pm |
OK, I knew I had deja vu over banning of Romney-supporters at the Freep. Last election Giuliani supporters were banned en masse.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:42:29pm |
re: #44 iossarian
I think he's making the classic nutter error, where:
mocking a person who happens to be black for his regressive and uninformed worldview
==
mocking a person because you do not like the color of his skin
It's all about: LOOK AT MEEEEEEEE! I'M NOT GETTING ANY ATTENTION -
WHHHAAAAAwhahhhhhhhwaaaaa
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iossarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:43:23pm |
re: #47 ggt
It's all about: LOOK AT MEEE! I'M NOT GETTING ANY ATTENTION -
WHHHAAAwhahhhwaaa
That too.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:43:48pm |
If he thought he could get attention by calling the sky blue, he'd do it.
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:43:54pm |
Dear Mr. Trump,
FYI...Jon Stewart is...a...COMIDIEN YOU POMPOUS MORON!!
...Please have your mother activate the Parental Controls on the idiot box
so you won't be tempted by Comedy Central....
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:44:10pm |
re: #46 Sergey Romanov
OK, I knew I had deja vu over banning of Romney-supporters at the Freep. Last election Giuliani supporters were banned en masse.
When are they just going to cut to the chase and declare that support of anyone other than Crazy Uncle Paul is grounds for automatic termination?
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:44:19pm |
re: #48 iossarian
That too.
So that means the next big show on E! will be "Keeping Up With the Republicans"?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:44:52pm |
Trump says something, he gets attention, the network gets ratings.
next . . .
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:45:34pm |
re: #51 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
When are they just going to cut to the chase and declare that support of anyone other than Crazy Uncle Paul is grounds for automatic termination?
I don't think they ever supported Paul. I'm not sure Paulites are even welcome there.
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allegro Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:46:51pm |
re: #54 Sergey Romanov
I don't think they ever supported Paul. I'm not sure Paulites are even welcome there.
I've lost track... who's left? Who's the suitable flavor of the moment?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:46:53pm |
re: #54 Sergey Romanov
I don't think they ever supported Paul. I'm not sure Paulites are even welcome there.
I knew it.
[Link: www.dailypaul.com...]
I called and talked directly to the owner of the website ,Jim Robinson. He told me my posting privilege had been revoked because I was a Ron Paul supporter. He then hung up on me.
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:47:24pm |
re: #54 Sergey Romanov
I don't think they ever supported Paul. I'm not sure Paulites are even welcome there.
Then shit, I guess they're out of choices, aren't they? Bachmann's dead in the water, Perry's barely treading water, and Cain's taking on water.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:47:40pm |
re: #55 allegro
I've lost track... who's left? Who's the suitable flavor of the moment?
Out of those in the race? Cain.
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iossarian Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:49:21pm |
re: #56 Sergey Romanov
I knew it.
[Link: www.dailypaul.com...]
I called and talked directly to the owner of the website ,Jim Robinson. He told me my posting privilege had been revoked because I was a Ron Paul supporter. He then hung up on me.
BWAHAHAHAHA
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:50:28pm |
I'm becoming more convinced that Trump is no better than Butt-head. They've got the same hair, lack of discipline, and affinity to say whatever comes to mind, no matter how stupid.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:50:28pm |
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allegro Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:51:01pm |
re: #58 Sergey Romanov
Out of those in the race? Cain.
The Republican business plan appears very similar to their party plan. Drive as many people out of it as possible... wait...
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:52:06pm |
re: #61 Decatur Deb
They should start a "Draft Arpaio" movement.
He's 79.
Oh, what the hell. Why not.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:53:05pm |
re: #63 wrenchwench
He's 79.
Oh, what the hell. Why not.
They should just resurrect Reagan. Too bad he will soon be banned as a Commie.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:53:26pm |
Nerves Fraying On The Right Over Potential Romney Nomination
Will tea party and Religious Right activists unite in their shared loathing of Mitt Romney? Judson Phillips of Tea Party Nation sent an alert to members today pleading with them to support his chosen candidate, Newt Gingrich, over Romney. “If Mitt Romney wins the primaries, the Tea Party has lost,” Phillips writes, “and it does not matter whether it is Obama or Romney who wins the election, as there is very little difference between the two.”
...
Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association, who was reproached by Romney at the Values Voter Summit, dedicated yesterday’s Focal Point to warning about a potential Romney nomination. AFA’s Michigan leader Gary Glenn already signed his name, along with other Religious Right leaders, on to a letter pleading with GOP voters not to nominate Romney. Fischer argued that Romney’s nomination will mean “the end of the Republican party as a political force” and that he has no chance of defeating Obama as a result of his well-documented flip-flopping and public perception of his Mormon faith:
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jaunte Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:54:03pm |
re: #61 Decatur Deb
They should start a "Draft Arpaio" movement.
He's doing some email fundraising today:. From the morning junkmail:
The President's new immigration policy and his comments about me, relating to the three-year-old DOJ investigation of alleged racial profiling, will not deter my stance on enforcing ALL state and Federal Immigration laws including crime suppression, human smuggling, identity theft investigations and raids in the work place.
I took an oath to defend the Constitution of both the United States and the State of Arizona.
So, no "investigation," no President, no protesters, and no death threats will keep me from doing the job I was elected to do. But I need your help if I'm going to be successful.
Will you join me today in supporting my campaign and send a strong message to President Obama that we will not be intimated but that we will continue to stand for the Rule of Law!
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:54:25pm |
re: #56 Sergey Romanov
I knew it.
[Link: www.dailypaul.com...]
Freepers are big time into apocalyptic Christianity. They prefer to hide their anti-semitism behind a pretense of intense support for Jews and Israel. Paul is way too out in the open with his antipathy towards both for them to support him.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:54:39pm |
re: #65 Sergey Romanov
They should just resurrect Reagan. Too bad he will soon be banned as a Commie.
Limbaugh/Beck '12 - Put the real masters on the ticket!
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steve_davis Tue, Nov 1, 2011 1:58:44pm |
re: #2 surlymarv
I watch the Daily Show, well daily, and I can't even remember what the fuck Trump is talking about. Also when did he go from calling them "the blacks" to the African American community? Side note: why does Trump always look like he's trying to take a shit?
It isn't Trump trying to take the shit. It's his comb-over. It's been pushing out the Donald for over 60 years now.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:00:54pm |
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:01:18pm |
Ah...POOP!
It's starting to snow....
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:03:42pm |
re: #73 reloadingisnotahobby
Ah...POOP!
It's starting to snow...
My condolences. It sucks when it snows poop.//
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:04:13pm |
Occupy Wall Street Protesters Wrestle With Growing Security Concerns
There have been multiple incidents of assault, drug dealing and drug use, rape and attempted rape, according to conversations with numerous protesters. And the problem, they say, is getting worse.
....
The sanitation team has reported finding needles in tents, and reports of crack and crystal meth use have surfaced. But the most serious concern most protesters say, is the risk of assault, especially for women and at night.
....
The police have made a handful of arrests, but many of the alleged crimes have gone unreported. Although a police presence surrounds the park, officers rarely enter it. Protesters offered dozens of explanations for what they describe as a diminishing police presence inside the park and a growing criminal element, which range from the conspiratorial to the practical.
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albusteve Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:05:00pm |
the media in America is all but useless...it's a pitiful laughingstock
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:05:09pm |
re: #74 Sergey Romanov
My condolences. It sucks when it snows poop.//
Ya got me......LOL...But I'll get you back...
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:08:52pm |
re: #75 Killgore Trout
but many of the alleged crimes have gone unreported
Didn't NJD get raked over the coals somewhat this a.m. for saying something similar?
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:09:56pm |
re: #76 albusteve
the media in America is all but useless...it's a pitiful laughingstock
Now now
A bottle of Windex and the Sunday Atlanta Journal Constitution and I clean every window in the house and cars with no streaks!!
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:10:29pm |
re: #57 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Then shit, I guess they're out of choices, aren't they? Bachmann's dead in the water, Perry's barely treading water, and Cain's taking on water.
2012 Republican Ticket
Romney/Bachmann (because Romney needs the evangelical vote).
or
Perry/Christie (oops he already said he wouldn't take the job).
ok then
Perry/Santorum (because Perry needs someone "sane" on his ticket).
Boy what a great election this is shaping up to be...
///
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:10:33pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:10:41pm |
re: #78 sattv4u2
but many of the alleged crimes have gone unreported
Didn't NJD get raked over the coals somewhat this a.m. for saying something similar?
Yes. Many were outraged. My guess is the forbidden video was shot yesterday after the meeting on the security situation.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:11:00pm |
re: #75 Killgore Trout
It's good to see them making an effort dealing with the problems of security.
I don't give any credence to the idea that the cops are intentionally making things worse, of course.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:11:10pm |
re: #78 sattv4u2
but many of the alleged crimes have gone unreported
Didn't NJD get raked over the coals somewhat this a.m. for saying something similar?
Nope.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:11:33pm |
re: #82 Killgore Trout
Yes. Many were outraged. My guess is the forbidden video was shot yesterday after the meeting on the security situation.
No, the 'outrage' was about a video from a Brietbart guy. You know this. Why pretend otherwise?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:12:02pm |
re: #78 sattv4u2
but many of the alleged crimes have gone unreported
Didn't NJD get raked over the coals somewhat this a.m. for saying something similar?
As far as I tracked that kerfuffle, it was more over the nature of sources used.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:13:05pm |
re: #84 Obdicut
Nope.
Or YUP!
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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makeitstop Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:13:21pm |
re: #85 Obdicut
No, the 'outrage' was about a video from a Brietbart guy. You know this. Why pretend otherwise?
Busted!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:13:27pm |
re: #83 Obdicut
It's good to see them making an effort dealing with the problems of security.
I don't give any credence to the idea that the cops are intentionally making things worse, of course.
Agreed, blaming the cops is just absurd. I don't think their security plans are going to work very well. Even with a highly disciplined and organized group it would be really tough to maintain security in an urban park. I don't think the protesters have what it takes to secure these camps.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:13:56pm |
re: #87 sattv4u2
Yes, the New York Post and the Daily Mail. Are you noticing any form of pattern here?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:15:37pm |
re: #90 Obdicut
Yes, the New York Post and the Daily Mail. Are you noticing any form of pattern here?
also Huffpo, OWS committee members and proesters. The pattern is that everyone is in agreement there's a security problem.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:15:44pm |
re: #90 Obdicut
Yes, the New York Post and the Daily Mail. Are you noticing any form of pattern here?
iirc, NJD was asked for other sources than Brietbart
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:16:23pm |
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:16:42pm |
re: #89 Killgore Trout
Agreed, blaming the cops is just absurd. I don't think their security plans are going to work very well. Even with a highly disciplined and organized group it would be really tough to maintain security in an urban park. I don't think the protesters have what it takes to secure these camps.
Well, at least you're not prejudging them.
/
Yes, it's tough to maintain security in a public park. It's tough to maintain security in a nightclub, too. In most New York nightclubs you could find a bunch of drugs, dudes groping women, etc. You can find it in most college dorms. You can find it in most places where there's an undisciplined group of people.
I'm really not getting the point of this concern.
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:17:14pm |
re: #85 Obdicut
No, the 'outrage' was about a video from a Brietbart guy. You know this. Why pretend otherwise?
Personally I only use video footage from Brietbart to floss my teeth but some people do claim that it has other uses, I'm not sure why.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:18:15pm |
re: #89 Killgore Trout
Agreed, blaming the cops is just absurd. I don't think their security plans are going to work very well. Even with a highly disciplined and organized group it would be really tough to maintain security in an urban park. I don't think the protesters have what it takes to secure these camps.
But, it's not what many would think of as "a park". It's a Plaza --more concrete than trees --no perimeter fencing.
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:18:42pm |
re: #95 ausador
Sorry...I couldn't even bring myself to type it...it was that bad!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:18:55pm |
re: #94 Obdicut
Well, at least you're not prejudging them.
/
Yes, it's tough to maintain security in a public park. It's tough to maintain security in a nightclub, too. In most New York nightclubs you could find a bunch of drugs, dudes groping women, etc. You can find it in most college dorms. You can find it in most places where there's an undisciplined group of people.
I'm really not getting the point of this concern.
it sells ads.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:22:37pm |
re: #71 Sergey Romanov
BTW, until a few minutes ago I didn't know where that pic came from. Google Image search rules foreva. This is the artist, and I love his stuff: [Link: chevalfineart.com...]
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:23:27pm |
re: #89 Killgore Trout
Agreed, blaming the cops is just absurd. I don't think their security plans are going to work very well. Even with a highly disciplined and organized group it would be really tough to maintain security in an urban park. I don't think the protesters have what it takes to secure these camps.
Your usual concern is noted.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:23:46pm |
Bother Puppy says it's time for my my nap.
I wouldn't listen, but Old Man Dog concurs.
Cat Overlord is rather honey badger about the whole thing, so I think I'll take the opporunity that leaves.
Have a great rest of the afternoon all!
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RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:24:04pm |
re: #61 Decatur Deb
They should start a "Draft Arpaio" movement.
It's a good thing I like you. That's not even close to funny.///
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justaminute Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:24:12pm |
Well this will be fun. Evidently the lady that filed the charges against Cain has had her attorney contact the National Restaurant Association to release her so she can comment on Cain. Info from MSNBC
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:24:17pm |
re: #99 Sergey Romanov
I was just thinking what a cool image it is, not just in subject matter but execution.
Something about this one is just nifty as all get out:
[Link: chevalfineart.com...]
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Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:24:39pm |
re: #82 Killgore Trout
Yes. Many were outraged. My guess is the forbidden video was shot yesterday after the meeting on the security situation.
You know the history with Lee Stranahan. Why would you expect me to help promote his smear tactics at LGF?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:24:42pm |
re: #101 ggt
Bother Puppy says it's time for my my nap.
I wouldn't listen, but Old Man Dog concurs.
Cat Overlord is rather honey badger about the whole thing, so I think I'll take the opporunity that leaves.
Have a great rest of the afternoon all!
Nap well!
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:26:16pm |
re: #91 Killgore Trout
Considering that the NYPD is directing various lawbreakers into Zucotti Park, I'm not surprised. Saw that on ThinkProgress.
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:26:26pm |
re: #99 Sergey Romanov
BTW, until a few minutes ago I didn't know where that pic came from. Google Image search rules foreva. This is the artist, and I love his stuff: [Link: chevalfineart.com...]
Pretty good, the puppet of the puppet of the puppet, but where are the puppet masters strings?
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:26:44pm |
re: #107 ProLifeLiberal
Considering that the NYPD is directing various lawbreakers into Zucotti Park, I'm not surprised. Saw that on ThinkProgress.
Don't believe conspiracy stories without strong proof. That's a serious allegation to make against the cops.
Edit: And as far as I know, there is absolutely zero proof for this allegation.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:28:43pm |
re: #104 Obdicut
I was just thinking what a cool image it is, not just in subject matter but execution.
Something about this one is just nifty as all get out:
[Link: chevalfineart.com...]
This one kinda illustrates why I love it. Dali and Magritte in equal measures, with bits and pieces of everything else thrown in.
[Link: chevalfineart.com...]
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Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:29:33pm |
It wasn't very long ago that Lee Stranahan was pulling the same shit with me.
I hope someone can interview the woman in his video, because I'll bet there's something going on that we don't know about yet -- like the "antisemitic" 14-year old Jewish girl.
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blueraven Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:29:40pm |
Another day, another derailed thread on LGF. *sigh*
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:30:06pm |
re: #110 Sergey Romanov
Yeah, it's an homage without being an imitation. And he's Russian; wouldn't have guessed that.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:30:30pm |
Donald Trump defender of black sensibilities? Donald F'n whitest bastard on the planet, Trump?
Of course, there was nothing racist at all about the comments that Stewart made. That's why Trump couldn't find an example and lamely showed his own racism by bringing up the Lindbergh baby comment.
You see, the suspect in that case was Richard Hauptmann... a man of German descent, who was very much not black. Of course Donald assumes that kidnappers are black.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:32:17pm |
re: #96 ggt
But, it's not what many would think of as "a park". It's a Plaza --more concrete than trees --no perimeter fencing.
The concrete or grass aren't the issue. They don't own the park and there's no way for them control who can stay and who has to go. They can't keep an eye on everybody and what they're up to.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:32:28pm |
re: #113 Obdicut
Yeah, it's an homage without being an imitation. And he's Russian; wouldn't have guessed that.
Interestingly, he only has an Eng-lang wiki page.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:32:38pm |
re: #103 justaminute
Well this will be fun. Evidently the lady that filed the charges against Cain has had her attorney contact the National Restaurant Association to release her so she can comment on Cain. Info from MSNBC
"to release her"??
Does that mean she has to pay back the settlement monies?
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RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:33:23pm |
Here is some good news:
Inmates Freed After Crack Penalties Are Eased
[Link: www.npr.org...]
Black, 36, was among the first of potentially thousands of inmates who are being released early from federal prison because of an easing of the harsh penalties for crack that were enacted in the 1980s, when the drug was a terrifying new phenomenon in America's cities.
"I can't wait for my son to get home," said Black's mother, Donetta Adams of Springfield, Ill. "I'll just be glad to hug him and kiss him and see him right now."
The 1980s-era federal laws punished crack-related crimes much more severely than those involving powdered cocaine — a practice criticized as racially discriminatory because most of those convicted of crack offenses were black.
More recently, the penalties for crack were reduced to bring them more in line with those for powder, and Tuesday was the first day inmates locked up under the old rules could get out early.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:33:58pm |
re: #111 Charles
I can believe the girl was being completely straightforward and honest. I don't buy the bit about cops not responding to complaints, except to the extent that cops might say "Well, if the guy isn't here, we can't do shit about it." She said there were the safe areas to sleep, the women's area, and she talked about the things the security guys there are trying to do to help.
It's like having a college dorm without the walls. I think maybe it gets people all riled up because its RIGHT OUT THERE IN THE OPEN but would it be any better if this shit was going down-- as it does all the time-- in college dorms?
I'm really unsure what my reaction to this 'news' is supposed to be. Am I supposed to castigate the protesters? To say that if only they weren't out there protesting, those skeezy guys wouldn't be assaulting women? Because obviously, they would.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:34:30pm |
re: #107 ProLifeLiberal
Considering that the NYPD is directing various lawbreakers into Zucotti Park, I'm not surprised. Saw that on ThinkProgress.
One of the reasons I don't visit sites like Think Progress as much as I used to. It's nonsense. Same with the conspiracy theory that cops are paid by the banks to suppress the protests.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:36:25pm |
re: #94 Obdicut
I'm really not getting the point of this concern.
It's a public safety concern that could lead the city to clear the park. It's the same thing that happened in Oakland
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andres Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:36:31pm |
It's just a Silly outrage by Trump because everyone forgot about how great a candidate he was.
Also, the Republicans need to find a way to neutralize Stewart. He's the only one keeping them on the record on all their stupidities. Given Stewart's record, and target demographics, it really hurts Republican chances for years to come.
re: #27 ggt
I'm so tired of Trump "I fucked-up in real estate so now I'm going to pet my ego in popular media". Seriously, go sit on a yacht in the South of France or anything.
He'd fit quite nicely in Italy tho.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:36:33pm |
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:36:48pm |
I'm getting more pissed at the police response to to OWS.
Richmond Police Use Bulldozers To ‘Erase’ Occupy Richmond
This been repeated in Denver and other cities.
I'm quickly losing respect for police.
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blueraven Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:37:00pm |
re: #120 Killgore Trout
One of the reasons I don't visit sites like Think Progress as much as I used to. It's nonsense. Same with the conspiracy theory that cops are paid by the banks to suppress the protests.
It is prudent to check the sources.
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sagehen Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:37:22pm |
re: #32 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
That truly is the $64,000 question. This is the sort of election made for third-party spoilers. Bloomberg springs to mind, but he might also be seen as "too liberal." I'd put Luap Nor as a potential third-party runner, but I'm sure he's set on just seeing his last term in office out, instead of throwing it away to run on the libertarian ticket.
Sa-rah! Sa-rah! Rah Rah Sa-Rah!!
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justaminute Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:37:29pm |
re: #109 Obdicut
Don't believe conspiracy stories without strong proof. That's a serious allegation to make against the cops.
I've read this on various liberal sites. On Daily Kos most of the members say they should just embrace them because they too are members of the 99%. From what I have read that at the various Occupy sites various members have set up security teams. From what I have read they worry not so much about the various vagrants but ones that are obviously mentally ill and capable of violence.
They also have video of some of the police officers in uniform coming to infiltrate as protesters.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:38:33pm |
re: #121 Killgore Trout
It's a public safety concern that could lead the city to clear the park. It's the same thing that happened in Oakland
I really don't think you've got a good grasp on the screwed up world that is Bay Area law enforcement. Please believe me, SFZ, and the other people who have a lot of experience with it when we say it's really not that simple.
And I don't get how having this happen in Zucotti park is somehow much more terrible than having it happen up in Harlem. Unless you're contending that the situation is actually creating the crime, sweeping offenders out of an area accomplishes exactly zero. It does nothing to make anyone safer.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:38:50pm |
re: #119 Obdicut
I'm really unsure what my reaction to this 'news' is supposed to be. Am I supposed to castigate the protesters? To say that if only they weren't out there protesting, those skeezy guys wouldn't be assaulting women? Because obviously, they would.
You're apparently supposed to believe there's something especially nasty or dirty about these demonstrators, that draws and encourages criminals. The whole narrative coming from the right is that OWS is a filthy socialist mob that trashes the place and leaves garbage everywhere while shooting up and fucking in public and beating those drums all night long, then attacks the police when they try to help.
They're right about the drums, anyway.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:38:52pm |
Herman Cain Accuser Wants To Come Forward
Joel P. Bennett, an attorney to one of the two National Restaurant Association employees who allegedly accused Cain of sexual harassment, told the Washington Post on Tuesday that his client is currently barred from speaking by a mutual non-disparagement agreement with the organization. But he says that agreement is being violated by Cain already, who has taken to the press to slam the harassment claim as “baseless,” and that she now wants to come forward and reveal herself to set the record straight.
“It is just frustrating that Herman Cain is going around bad-mouthing the two complainants, and my client is blocked by a confidentiality agreement,” Bennett said. “The National Restaurant Association ought to release them and allow them to respond.”
Bennett told the Post that if his client, who now works in the federal government, were given permission to speak about the incident “then it is whole new ballgame.”
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:39:10pm |
re: #127 justaminute
They also have video of some of the police officers in uniform coming to infiltrate as protesters.
Well, there's your problem.
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engineer cat Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:39:16pm |
intonation
listening to stewart's piece again, i detect one or maybe two southern style diphthongs in the course of a five minute bit, and mr cain does have a marked georgia accent every bit as noticeable as that of jimmy carter, who's accent has been widely imitated over the years
i don't think you can stretch a diphthong or two into a racist caricature
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:39:36pm |
re: #120 Killgore Trout
You've got to admit, the "donation" looks rather interesting.
I have a lot more cynicism on the opposition to this than you do.
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justaminute Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:40:16pm |
re: #117 sattv4u2
"to release her"??
Does that mean she has to pay back the settlement monies?
It was just a quick comment by Chris Mathews no details other than that. He made a quick comment wondering if Cain would allow them to release her too.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:40:16pm |
re: #129 Charles
The drums are annoying. I wouldn't want to sleep there just because of them.
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RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:40:45pm |
re: #75 Killgore Trout
Occupy Wall Street Protesters Wrestle With Growing Security Concerns
Security problems grow at Occupy Wall Street
Protesters express frustration about disruptions in the park
[Link: www.salon.com...]
Are physical occupations a sustainable tactic for Occupy Wall Street?
There are signs in New York and around the country that life in public parks and plazas is presenting unexpected difficulties for the economic justice protesters. Chief among them is security, and particularly the attraction of disruptive people to Occupy sites who have no interest in the movement.
“It’s gotten really bad in the last couple weeks, the population of criminals and predators. Fully half the camp down there now don’t have anything to do with the movement. They don’t go on marches. They’re just down there to eat and cause trouble,” says Fetzer Mills Jr., a 51-year-old from Memphis who has been working on the Occupy security team at Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan. “We are overwhelmed.”
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:41:06pm |
re: #133 ProLifeLiberal
You've got to admit, the "donation" looks rather interesting.
I have a lot more cynicism on the opposition to this than you do.
The 'donation' happened long, long, long before Occupy got off the group. Donations to police and fireman is a long-standing way for corporations to give back to the community.
How about we not simultaneously criticize Wall Street for being greedy and for giving the government money of their own free will? That'd be nice.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:42:09pm |
re: #128 Obdicut
And I don't get how having this happen in Zucotti park is somehow much more terrible than having it happen up in Harlem. Unless you're contending that the situation is actually creating the crime, sweeping offenders out of an area accomplishes exactly zero. It does nothing to make anyone safer.
The overall crime rate in the city will remain more or less the same. However, the camps attract a lot more than would normally be in the area which causes its own problems. Add to that the homeless showing up for free food and parties. Also various criminal elements show up for good times and easy prey. It causes problems in areas that normally don't have as many problems.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:43:43pm |
re: #129 Charles
hippie-bashing, the time honored tradition :P
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:43:46pm |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
And how else do we put pressure to cause massive reforms?
Nothing else has worked. If you want to know where this camp-out idea came from, go back to January in Tahrir Square in Egypt.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:44:07pm |
re: #136 RogueOne
Feltzer Mills is an awesome name.
However, his figures seem wildly off to me, based on my flying visit to Zucotti Park over the weekend. Most of the people there were still activist types, but I can understand that for the actual logistical people it's hard as hell.
I do think this is a problem with being in a public space that's relatively unsolvable, but to me it's something the protesters have to endure rather than a black mark against them.
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engineer cat Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:45:16pm |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
It causes problems in areas that normally don't have as many problems.
so does 9% unemployment
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:45:31pm |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
The overall crime rate in the city will remain more or less the same. However, the camps attract a lot more than would normally be in the area which causes its own problems
If the crime rate would be the same, how is it causing a problem? Why is the area important? These crimes are important because they're happening in Zucotti Park and not in Harlem or Bed-Sty? Why?
. Add to that the homeless showing up for free food and parties. Also various criminal elements show up for good times and easy prey. It causes problems in areas that normally don't have as many problems.
In one area. Zucotti Park. Which is tiny.
So what? If you agree that the assholes doing the shit would still be assholes, why is it so important where they're assholing up their assholery?
I don't get it.
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RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:46:32pm |
More in Salon:
Homelessness becomes an OWS issue
Protesters are discovering just how difficult the government makes life for its most downtrodden citizens
[Link: www.salon.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:47:26pm |
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prairiefire Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:47:41pm |
re: #144 RogueOne
More in Salon:
Homelessness becomes an OWS issue
Protesters are discovering just how difficult the government makes life for its most downtrodden citizens
[Link: www.salon.com...]
Is this the first time you have reposted from Salon?
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:47:58pm |
I found the story I mentioned about directing criminals to OWS.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:48:06pm |
re: #143 Obdicut
New York has nineteen and a half million people living in it. Nineteen and a half million! It's fucking huge.
To actually be affecting the rate of crime in the city, the protesters would need non-stop delivery vans dumping off heroin, crack, and moist-handed molester dudes.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:48:13pm |
The 'problem" isn't that the protesters are attracting a criminal element
Yes, in any crowd there's going to be a pickpocket, a groper, a drug dealer, etc
What is the problem is that on New Years Eve the pickpocket, groper, and drug dealers are reported to the police who then arrest them. If these protesters want to "police themselves" (something I would suggest they do not) what happens to the perpetrator?
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prairiefire Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:48:38pm |
re: #146 Cannadian Club Akbar
Give up some Smarties. Please.
I am impressed. He went into the deep dark Halloween Heart of the sub division.
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Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:48:41pm |
Right, bellyache about a "forbidden video" that was put together by wingnut psycho Lee Stranahan who went after Charles and is now with Andrew Breitbart's "Big Government." I guess some people forget about sticking to their alleged principles and decided to toss loyalty out the window.
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RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:48:50pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:48:50pm |
it turns out organic unrest and anger is a little messier than the astroturfed pretend Dick-Armey-sponsored variety
everyone can smear the protests all they want, but there is now a real conversation about income disparity and wall street cheaters, happening around the country
all the king's concern trolls can't stop that :)
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Kragar Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:48:55pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:49:19pm |
re: #142 engineer dog
so does 9% unemployment
stop protesting!
Stay home! Don't change the conversation! It's dangerous!
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:49:28pm |
re: #150 sattv4u2
What is the problem is that on New Years Eve the pickpocket, groper, and drug dealers are reported to the police who them arrest them.
In what world? Most crimes go unreported, most criminals go unarrested.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:49:54pm |
re: #157 Obdicut
In what world? Most crimes go unreported, most criminals go unarrested.
waytomissthepoint
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:50:20pm |
re: #155 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Rand Paul On Cain Scandal: It's Getting To Where You Can't Joke With Women Anymore
Ah, Rand Paul, keeping blacks and women in their place. //
Yegods.
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Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:50:37pm |
re: #139 WindUpBird
hippie-bashing, the time honored tradition :P
Arm-chair hippie bashing no less. Would that be chicken-hippie-bashing or hippie-chicken-bashing?
//
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sagehen Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:50:53pm |
re: #69 oaktree
Limbaugh/Beck '12 - Put the real masters on the ticket!
I don't think either of them wants the increased workload or reduced pay.
| 162 |
Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:51:19pm |
re: #158 sattv4u2
waytomissthepoint
What was your point?
I heard protesters alleging that the cops aren't arresting people and so they have to police themselves. I don't believe it's true. I do believe that 'policing yourself' to the point that they described in the video, of warning people giving out the supplies at Zucotti park not to give them to the known offenders, is a good thing.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:52:19pm |
re: #143 Obdicut
It becomes an issues when it happens on city land or public parks. The city has the obligation to keep these areas safe for the public. It's not a difficult concept. If the cities allowed these areas turn into dagerous crime ridden areas the public is going to be pissed. Especially local businesses and people who live in the surrounding area. In the case of Oakland emergency crews weren't even allowed in the park to help victims. The city can't just wash their hands and walk away.
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sagehen Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:52:23pm |
re: #78 sattv4u2
but many of the alleged crimes have gone unreported
Didn't NJD get raked over the coals somewhat this a.m. for saying something similar?
If the alleged crimes were unreported, who's alleging them?
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makeitstop Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:52:24pm |
I'd love to stay and watch the ensuing slugfest, but I got a new Tuesday night gig running a jam night out here on LI.
The wife and I are going to dinner, then off to the club. Tussle nicely, see y'all later.
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prairiefire Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:52:49pm |
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Aye Pod Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:53:07pm |
re: #154 WindUpBird
We need to stomp these hippies before they...er...hurt Obama's chances.
| 168 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:54:03pm |
re: #164 sagehen
If the alleged crimes were unreported, who's alleging them?
Killgore has posted numerous videos
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Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:54:31pm |
re: #163 Killgore Trout
It becomes an issues when it happens on city land or public parks. The city has the obligation to keep these areas safe for the public. It's not a difficult concept. If the cities allowed these areas turn into dagerous crime ridden areas the public is going to be pissed. Especially local businesses and people who live in the surrounding area. In the case of Oakland emergency crews weren't even allowed in the park to help victims. The city can't just wash their hands and walk away.
Like that's never happened before on an official level through zoning and planing.
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Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:55:03pm |
re: #167 Jimmah
We need to stomp these hippies before they...er...hurt Obama's chances.
But I'm not going to vote anyway.
//
| 171 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:55:33pm |
re: #164 sagehen
If the alleged crimes were unreported, who's alleging them?
The protesters themselves. OWS held a special meeting yesterday addressing the severity of the problem.
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Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:55:45pm |
Coming up next! There's no such thing as environmental racism!
Plus. Did you know that cities treat all neighborhoods equally?
//
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:56:02pm |
re: #163 Killgore Trout
It becomes an issues when it happens on city land or public parks. The city has the obligation to keep these areas safe for the public.
This is a privately owned park, as has been made abundantly clear already. And legally, nightclubs and other areas are 'public' too and the cops have just as much an obligation to make sure that such crimes aren't happening there, as well. Do you really think that cops have less responsibility to go after rapists just because they're indoors?
If the cities allowed these areas turn into dagerous crime ridden areas the public is going to be pissed.
Zucotti park is a tiny area that's less than a city block. It is not an 'area'. Even according to the video you're so fond of, the problem is in one section of that small park.
The city can't just wash their hands and walk away.
Who's talking about the city walking away?
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RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:56:16pm |
re: #166 prairiefire
I'm being sarcastic.
I think you might be high!/
More Salon!:
Should teens be screened for drug use?
In a major policy shift, pediatricians call for HIV tests and drug screening for teens.
[Link: life.salon.com...]
This just in – teenagers experiment with sex, alcohol and drugs. But for the first time, the American Academy of Pediatrics now boldly recommends that adolescents be routinely screened for illicit-substance use and HIV. The policy statements suggest doctors routinely test kids 16 and up for HIV in communities where more than 0.1 percent of the population has the virus — regardless of whether the patient admits to being sexually active. It also states that doctors should ask teens about drug, alcohol and nicotine use at every visit. But while a routine HIV test is a fairly straightforward, judgment-free process, frank conversation is another one altogether. Are parents and pediatricians ready to get frank with teenagers about their recreational activities?
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Kragar Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:57:12pm |
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:57:40pm |
re: #175 RogueOne
Stupid headline. They're not suggesting doctors screen kids for drug use, but talk to them about it.
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RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:58:03pm |
re: #164 sagehen
If the alleged crimes were unreported, who's alleging them?
I was touched in an inappropriate manner. I wasn't anywhere near NYC and I had to beg for it but still...
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:58:10pm |
re: #174 Obdicut
Do you really think that cops have less responsibility to go after rapists just because they're indoors?
Nope,,, but to "go after" them be it indoors or out, someone has to report it! Would you advise a young lady in a nightclub to not report a groping to the authorities?
| 181 |
Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:58:55pm |
OMG I just saw a Think Progress link fly past on spy!
Run for them hills! It's those lefties!
Ironic you know. Considering who started that infamous anti-Think Progress site. Very ironic. And how that same former Lizard used to troll Think Progress. Given the record... I'm starting to wonder now if he was right there with him.
| 182 |
Aye Pod Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:59:10pm |
re: #177 Gus 802
I'm a South Park conservative!
[Vomit]
//
Yet I somehow retain the full capacity for religious outrage.
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sagehen Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:59:39pm |
re: #129 Charles
They're right about the drums, anyway.
Where are the giant puppets?!? I was told there'd be puppets.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:59:51pm |
re: #179 RogueOne
I was touched in an inappropriate manner. I wasn't anywhere near NYC and I had to beg for it but still...
Touching yourself doesn't count!
/
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Nov 1, 2011 2:59:57pm |
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:00:21pm |
I've heard many of these arguments before in my life, when the asshole Jordan used these excuses to destroy homeless encampments in Golden Gate Park, destroying the minimal property of the homeless there and driving them out. Then he dusted his hands off and he pretended he'd done something, like because the homeless weren't in the park anymore they'd ceased to exist, ceased to be a problem, it was solved, over.
The homeless, of course, got displaced to the rest of the city, as did whatever particular crimes they were involved in.
Moving criminals out of one place isn't going to solve a fucking thing.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:01:28pm |
re: #180 sattv4u2
Do you really think that cops have less responsibility to go after rapists just because they're indoors?
Nope,,, but to "go after" them be it indoors or out, someone has to report it! Would you advise a young lady in a nightclub to not report a groping to the authorities?
Why on earth do you think I wouldn't want any victim of any sexual assault to report it? What have I said that has led you to allege that?
| 189 |
RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:02:16pm |
re: #178 Obdicut
Stupid headline. They're not suggesting doctors screen kids for drug use, but talk to them about it.
including:
They also provide a specific protocol for questioning teen patients, from praising and encouraging kids who say they don’t indulge, all the way to “consider[ing] breaking confidentiality to ask parents to monitor and insure a follow-through” for those who appear in “acute danger.” The guidelines suggest offering the patient a contract promising “not drink alcohol, use drugs or take anyone else’s medication” for a specified amount of time” — and hammering home the high risks associated with getting in a car with anyone under the influence.
That isn't something I would be OK with.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:03:54pm |
re: #187 Obdicut
Why on earth do you think I wouldn't want any victim of any sexual assault to report it? What have I said that has led you to allege that?
True to form as I said yesterday
Answer a question WITH a question
Thanks for making it so easy!
| 191 |
Sheila Broflovski Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:04:23pm |
re: #14 iossarian
Who is JimRob and is the obvious transposition apposite or unfortunate?
Owner of FreeRepublic .com
| 192 |
Kragar Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:06:03pm |
| 193 |
Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:06:31pm |
re: #190 sattv4u2
Jesus.
I want any person who's been assaulted to report it. Any.
Now, can you explain why the hell you'd think I might feel otherwise?
| 194 |
Talking Point Detective Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:06:50pm |
Donald Trum is "concerned" for the African American community.
Too funny.
| 195 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:08:19pm |
re: #174 Obdicut
It's a liability issue. Even though the camp in NY is privately owned the city is still responsible for public safety in a park that's open to the public. I don;t make the rules. All I'm saying is that public safety issues may lead to the decision to close down the camps in NY and other cities. This isn't something I'm making up. Cities face very difficult decisions in situations like this.
| 196 |
Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:09:00pm |
re: #195 Killgore Trout
It's a liability issue. Even though the camp in NY is privately owned the city is still responsible for public safety in a park that's open to the public.
They're also responsible for public safety in a nightclub. You do know that, right?
| 197 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:09:10pm |
re: #193 Obdicut
Jesus.
I want any person who's been assaulted to report it. Any.
Now, can you explain why the hell you'd think I might feel otherwise?
Why would you think I do think you feel otherwise?
I asked you a question, you have now answered it, confirming what I do believe!
| 198 |
RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:09:37pm |
I smell a trap:
Syria reaches deal with Arab League
[Link: www.abc.net.au...]
Syria says it has reached a deal with an Arab League committee tasked with finding a way to end seven months of unrest and starting a dialogue between president Bashar al-Assad and his opponents.
State media reported the deal, without giving details, saying an official announcement of the agreement would be made at the Arab League headquarters in Cairo on Wednesday.
The United Nations says more than 3,000 people have been killed in Mr Assad's crackdown on an uprising which erupted in March against his rule, inspired by revolutions which have toppled three Arab leaders this year.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:09:55pm |
re: #196 Obdicut
They're also responsible for public safety in a nightclub. You do know that, right?
And as I stated, unless someone reports a crime happened IN the nightclub, what would you have the police do?
| 200 |
Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:10:05pm |
re: #197 sattv4u2
Ah, so it was just pointless posting on your part. Okay.
| 201 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:10:17pm |
re: #129 Charles
IIRC, the whole thing started this am with a post insinuating that the hippies raped a blind man.
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Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:10:17pm |
re: #195 Killgore Trout
It's a liability issue. Even though the camp in NY is privately owned the city is still responsible for public safety in a park that's open to the public. I don;t make the rules. All I'm saying is that public safety issues may lead to the decision to close down the camps in NY and other cities. This isn't something I'm making up. Cities face very difficult decisions in situations like this.
You mean like in South Korea?
| 203 |
Sheila Broflovski Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:10:22pm |
re: #68 goddamnedfrank
Freepers are big time into apocalyptic Christianity. They prefer to hide their anti-semitism behind a pretense of intense support for Jews and Israel. Paul is way too out in the open with his antipathy towards both for them to support him.
One of the most jaw-dropping, face-palming, head-desking threads I ever read at FreeRepublic had to do with G.I.'s looting a boxcar of Nazi-confiscated Jewish property during WW2.
FReepers were seething, how dare those freaking Jooz ask for their property! Those G.I.'s saved their asses from Hitler! They should have been thrilled to hand over all their worldly possessions!
I was like all, WTF. If the police stop a home invasion at your house and prevent the home invaders from shooting you and raping your wife, does that mean they get to keep your TV?
| 204 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:11:12pm |
re: #196 Obdicut
They're also responsible for public safety in a nightclub. You do know that, right?
I get the feeling this is a pointless conversation. You'll have to debate the city of New York, Oakland, etc. I'm not advocating closing down the parks, just explaining the reality that the parks may be closed down for public safety concerns. Email the city of New York for further debate.
| 205 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:11:23pm |
| 206 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:11:49pm |
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:12:00pm |
re: #198 RogueOne
Fortunately, I think the brutalization of the Protesters has made them cynical of Assad.
They will likely ignore him.
I, for the record, don't think any deal has been reached.
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:12:34pm |
re: #201 Stanley Sea
IIRC, the whole thing started this am with a post insinuating that the hippies raped a blind man.
Which was a mischaracterization of the video, which said it was a deaf man, and with qualifiers like "I heard that..." The "forbidden" video was worthless.
| 210 |
Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:13:14pm |
re: #204 Killgore Trout
I get the feeling this is a pointless conversation.
It is when you ignore that the police department is repsonsible for public safety everywhere in the city, not just in public parks. They're not the New York Park Police. They're the New York City Police Department.
I'm not advocating closing down the parks, just explaining the reality that the parks may be closed down for public safety concerns.
And I'm explaining that that would be an absolutely bullshit reason, since the criminals would not disappear, the crimes would not stop happening, and the public safety would not be increased by doing so.
It might very well be an excuse, but that's what it would be, a thin, transparent excuse.
| 211 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:13:27pm |
re: #203 Alouette
There were a few "borderline" (ahem) threads when it turned that (surprise, surprise!) most US Jews voted for Obama.
| 212 |
ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:13:58pm |
re: #209 Gus 802
You got the word the wrong!!!
:P
My computer got faster after Grocery Shopping. May have had to adjust to V.15.
| 213 |
Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:14:51pm |
re: #212 ProLifeLiberal
You got the word the wrong!!!
:P
My computer got faster after Grocery Shopping. May have had to adjust to V.15.
See. Your computer just needed something to eat.
| 214 |
wrenchwench Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:15:05pm |
re: #212 ProLifeLiberal
You got the word the wrong!!!
:P
My computer got faster after Grocery Shopping. May have had to adjust to V.15.
Your computer goes grocery shopping? Wow.
| 215 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:15:46pm |
| 216 |
ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:16:38pm |
re: #214 wrenchwench
Very funny. I need my computer most of the time, so that would be bad.
In any case, this is the first good news in 5 days.
| 217 |
RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:16:47pm |
re: #203 Alouette
....
I was like all, WTF. If the police stop a home invasion at your house and prevent the home invaders from shooting you and raping your wife, does that mean they get to keep your TV?
They only get to keep your tv and cash if they kick in your door looking for drugs. Doesn't matter if they find any.
Harrisburg man sues city and police over seized money
[Link: www.pennlive.com...]
| 218 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:16:48pm |
re: #214 wrenchwench
Your computer goes grocery shopping? Wow.
I had a transistor radio that used to go to the dry cleaners for me!
| 220 |
Kragar Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:18:07pm |
re: #218 sattv4u2
I had a transistor radio that used to go to the dry cleaners for me!
My toaster kept volunteering to go pick up my death ray for me.
| 221 |
Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:18:15pm |
re: #211 Sergey Romanov
By the way, the video in 219, as well as carrying a message, is a gorgeous tribute to a wonderful artist. You might like it.
| 222 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:18:37pm |
re: #219 Obdicut
[Video]
Cool
((but who's the "Legendary Man" here ,,, you for not answering, or me for asking!?!?)
I'M SOOO CONFUSED!!!
| 223 |
Obdicut Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:18:40pm |
re: #220 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
My toaster kept volunteering to go pick up my death ray for me.
[Link: fallout.wikia.com...]
| 224 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:19:20pm |
re: #220 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
My toaster kept volunteering to go pick up my death ray for me.
2 slice or 4?
| 225 |
ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:21:04pm |
So, does anyone think the Party Van is going to visit that guy in Virginia?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:22:01pm |
re: #221 Obdicut
By the way, the video in 219, as well as carrying a message, is a gorgeous tribute to a wonderful artist. You might like it.
Thankee-sai, I'll take a look now.
| 227 |
RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:24:00pm |
Update to a story I posted the other day. Man gives cop a hug....cops kick the crap out of him. They announced the settlement last week, today they announced the total...
Case over Knott's, cops, 'man hug' settled
[Link: www.ocregister.com...]
The city settled the case for $100,000, Deputy City Manager Jim Vanderpool said. Federal court documents note each side will pay its own attorney's fees.
| 228 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:28:13pm |
re: #227 RogueOne
From the linky:
"To this day, we don't believe the jury had all the facts. There were key witnesses who were not called to testify," Vanderpool said. "Some of our officers, none of the Knott's employees were called during the trial."
Sour grapes. What a punk ass.
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jaunte Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:31:07pm |
re: #227 RogueOne
I guess the lesson here is "no touching, no matter what."
The suit, filed by Long Beach-based lawyer Alex Galindo, gives this account:
The two were waiting in line to ride the GhostRider, a wooden roller coaster, when Love had to get out of the line to use the men's room. When he returned, Knott's security said Love and Johnson had cut into the line and ordered them to leave the park. Johnson protested but left, even though nearby police officers had confirmed with other patrons that Love and Johnson had not cut into the line.
The officers escorted the pair across Grand Avenue to the tunnel that connects Knott's Berry Farm with the main parking lot. Love turned to Sgt. Michael Lovchik and said, “We showed respect, right?” Love then gave Lovchik a “man hug” to show he had no hard feelings.Lovchik shoved Love away. At that point, officer Roger Plumlee rode up on his horse and struck Love on the left shoulder and back with his baton. Trying to cover himself from the blows, Love slipped on a wet incline, hitting Plumlee's horse, causing it to fall to the ground, the suit says.
[Link: www.ocregister.com...]
| 230 |
Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:33:16pm |
Oh but nothing's wrong.
Why the SEC Won’t Hunt Big Dogs
by Jesse Eisinger
ProPublica, Oct. 26, 2011, 12:56 p.mThat is the way I felt last week when the Securities and Exchange Commission announced that it had, well, agreed to a measly $285 million settlement with Citigroup over the bank having misled its own customers in selling an investment it created out of mortgage securities as the housing market was beginning its collapse.
In addition, the S.E.C. accused one person -- a low-level banker. Hooray, we finally got the guy who caused the financial crisis! The Occupy Wall Street protestors can now go home.
After years of lengthy investigations into collateralized debt obligations, the mortgage securities at the heart of the financial crisis, the S.E.C. has brought civil actions against only two small-time bankers. But compared with the Justice Department, the S.E.C. is the second coming of Eliot Ness. No major investment banker has been brought up on criminal charges stemming from the financial crisis.
To understand why that is so pathetic and -- worse -- corrupting, we need to briefly review what went on in C.D.O.'s in the years before the crisis. By 2006, legions of Wall Street bankers had turned C.D.O.'s into vehicles for their own personal enrichment, at the expense of their customers.
Continues.
| 231 |
RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:33:25pm |
Mom claims Anaheim cops executed son
[Link: www.ocregister.com...]
ANAHEIM – The mother of a man shot and killed by Anaheim police in August has filed a claim against the city for "wrongful police execution of her son."
The claim was filed by Maria Lopez, the mother of David Raya, 23. A claim is typically the first step leading to a lawsuit against a city.
Raya was shot by a police officer at around 1:40 p.m. Aug. 16 during what police described as a confrontation with an officer in front of an apartment complex on the 100 block of West Guinida Lane, near Iris Street.
At the time, police said the confrontation took place while officers were in the neighborhood searching for Raya, a parolee considered armed and dangerous. Police did not say whether Raya had a weapon or fired at officers.
Raya was on parole after pleading guilty in 2006 to felony assault with a firearm; he was sentenced to four years in state prison.
In the claim, attorney Richard Herman says that Raya was running away from his girlfriend's home, where he had seen police officers trying to serve a warrant because he had failed to report to his parole agent.
Without passing judgement on her claim, I found this picture (part of the slideshow) interesting:
| 232 |
Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:34:22pm |
re: #230 Gus 802
Oh but nothing's wrong.
Last week's S.E.C. complaint makes clear that the low-level Citigroup banker that it sued, Brian H. Stoker, had multiple conversations with his superiors about the details of Class V. At one point, Mr. Stoker's boss pressed him to make sure that their group got "credit" for the profits on the short that was made by another group at the bank.
Pause, and think about that. The boss was looking for credit, but as far as the S.E.C. was concerned, he got no blame.
The S.E.C. did not respond to a request for comment, so we are left to wonder what explains its failure to reckon adequately with the pervasive problems. Contrary to expectations, the embattled and oft-assailed agency has done almost everything right with structured finance investigations, taking aim at abuses related to C.D.O.'s and other complex deals.
| 233 |
RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:34:56pm |
| 234 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:35:25pm |
re: #230 Gus 802
stop protesting! Your unbelievably moneyed upper-class have all your best interests in mind!
| 236 |
ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:36:21pm |
re: #232 Gus 802
Hey Gus, I want to send a private email.
| 237 |
Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:37:31pm |
re: #236 ProLifeLiberal
Hey Gus, I want to send a private email.
Private? Oh. Can you send me message through Twitter instead? I don't have an open email yet. I'm kind of, how do I put it, guarded about that information.
| 238 |
Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:38:35pm |
re: #234 WindUpBird
stop protesting! Your unbelievably moneyed upper-class have all your best interests in mind!
But what about the parks all across the country that are being dirtied up by dirty hippies!
Look at the birdie!
//
| 239 |
ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:38:43pm |
re: #237 Gus 802
Follow me on Twitter please then.
| 240 |
bratwurst Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:39:13pm |
News from the world of religious hatred:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Ok, hasn't been ruled as arson yet...but what are the chances?
| 241 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:39:32pm |
re: #237 Gus 802
Private? Oh. Can you send me message through Twitter instead? I don't have an open email yet. I'm kind of, how do I put it, guarded about that information.
In my day, we used to call that BEING ON THE LAM!
/
| 245 |
engineer cat Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:41:56pm |
Goldline, a company that used endorsements from Glenn Beck and other conservative icons to sell hundreds of millions of dollars to consumers, has been charged with theft and fraud in a 19-count criminal complaint filed Tuesday by local officials in California.
but when the economy really collapses, gold will almost be worth its weight in rats
| 246 |
Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:42:07pm |
Conservatives are spewing forth that the accusing women are liberals.
Why would Herman Cain surround himself with liberals, women or otherwise?
| 247 |
bratwurst Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:42:55pm |
re: #245 engineer dog
but when the economy really collapses, gold will almost be worth its weight in rats
To be fair, some of your big city rats have a LOT of meat on them.
| 248 |
ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:42:55pm |
re: #242 Gus 802
Twitter is being a Twit. It'll take a minute for me to figure out.
| 249 |
The Left Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:43:16pm |
re: #246 Amory Blaine
Conservatives are spewing forth that the accusing women are liberals.
Why would Herman Cain surround himself with liberals, women or otherwise?
Of course they're liberals. Nasty, uptight female liberals who can't take a joke. Poor Herman!/
| 250 |
ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:43:31pm |
re: #244 RogueOne
Not even remotely close. FB, in my case, is only for people I have actually met.
| 251 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:44:15pm |
re: #246 Amory Blaine
Conservatives are spewing forth that the accusing women are liberals.
Why would Herman Cain surround himself with liberals, women or otherwise?
I would think the National Restaurant Association has the entire array of the political spectrum as members
| 252 |
dragonfire1981 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:44:44pm |
re: #176 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Personhood USA Confirms That Mississippi Abortion Ban Would Outlaw Birth Control Pills
That would be problematic for my wife as she takes BC as a course of a treatment for a medical condition...and we live in MS.
| 253 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:45:20pm |
I am so fucking sick of Herman Cain and OWS. Can we talk about real news? Please?
Police: Naked couple fed LSD-laced gummy worm to dog
Neighbors report nude pair in street after dachshund runs off and is hit by car
| 255 |
Targetpractice Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:46:24pm |
re: #246 Amory Blaine
Conservatives are spewing forth that the accusing women are liberals.
Why would Herman Cain surround himself with liberals, women or otherwise?
Yes, these crafty liberals orchestrated this scandal, knowing that Cain would one day run for the presidency!
Just like the state of Hawaii knew Obama was going to run for the president!
///
| 256 |
bratwurst Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:46:24pm |
re: #246 Amory Blaine
Conservatives are spewing forth that the accusing women are liberals.
Ah ha! And they KNEW in the 90s he would be running for president in 2011, so they made their allegations back then as a time bomb...typical Alinsky tactics.
| 257 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:46:24pm |
the lords of chaos sow their seed
| 258 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:46:38pm |
| 259 |
dragonfire1981 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:47:02pm |
re: #246 Amory Blaine
Conservatives are spewing forth that the accusing women are liberals.
Why would Herman Cain surround himself with liberals, women or otherwise?
Wait, I think I've got it...
Cain was PRETENDING to be a Liberal while messing with these two women so after they hated Liberals but THEN they realized he was actually a Republican so they became Liberals so they could attack him in an attempt to all but guarantee Obama a second term...and George Soros funded the whole thing.
/tinfoil hat
| 260 |
Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:47:12pm |
re: #249 iceweasel
Of course they're liberals. Nasty, uptight female liberals who can't take a joke. Poor Herman!/
Once we have their address we'll know what kind of kitchen counters and furniture they have in their houses.
//
| 261 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:47:22pm |
re: #255 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yes, these crafty liberals orchestrated this scandal, knowing that Cain would one day run for the presidency!
Just like the state of Hawaii knew Obama was going to run for the president!
///
I must clutch my pearls and then CC this valuable chain email about the disgusting liberals to my entire extended family, in between episodes of the 700 club
| 262 |
Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:48:02pm |
re: #251 sattv4u2
I would think the National Restaurant Association has the entire array of the political spectrum as members
Liberals are too busy bringing down the country to run a business./
| 263 |
RogueOne Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:48:08pm |
re: #260 Gus 802
Once we have their address we'll know what kind of kitchen counters and furniture they have in their houses.
//
And why they aren't in there making sandwiches on those counters.
| 264 |
dragonfire1981 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:48:43pm |
Somewhat OT, but if you're in the mood to laugh or cry or perhaps do both, check out the AFA facebook page, specifically the wall posts. Lots of crazy going on over there.
| 265 |
garhighway Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:48:43pm |
random thought:
Might Trump be regretting his hasty departure from the race? He could be looking at the wreckage of Cain, Perry, Newt and Spooky-eyed Michelle and saying to himself "This thing is still up for grabs! I have got to get in there!"
I understand the risk in trying to guess at Trump's motivations, but why else would he be injecting himself into this mess?
| 266 |
Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:49:22pm |
re: #262 Amory Blaine
Liberals are too busy bringing down the country to run a business./
Yeah. Don't you know. It was hippies that cause the economic meltdown of 2008. Those damn hippies. And homosexuals too.
//
| 267 |
Targetpractice Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:49:40pm |
re: #265 garhighway
random thought:
Might Trump be regretting his hasty departure from the race? He could be looking at the wreckage of Cain, Perry, Newt and Spooky-eyed Michelle and saying to himself "This thing is still up for grabs! I have got to get in there!"
I understand the risk in trying to guess at Trump's motivations, but why else would he be injecting himself into this mess?
Perhaps testing the waters for a third-party run? Wouldn't be the first time a loony billionaire thought he had what it takes to be president.
| 268 |
Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:50:16pm |
And those same hippies protested against the Iraq War too back in 2003! Can you believe that? Protesting against a war they don't support? That's downright un-American.
//
| 269 |
Targetpractice Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:50:25pm |
re: #266 Gus 802
Yeah. Don't you know. It was hippies that cause the economic meltdown of 2008. Those damn hippies. And homosexuals too.
//
And the teachers unions...and Planned Parenthood...and NPR...and those damned illegals...and...and...
///
| 270 |
Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:51:04pm |
re: #269 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
And the teachers unions...and Planned Parenthood...and NPR...and those damned illegals...and...and...
///
ACORN!
But. All roads lead to Soros.
//
| 271 |
goddamnedfrank Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:51:50pm |
re: #249 iceweasel
Of course they're liberals. Nasty, uptight female liberals who can't take a joke. Poor Herman!/
Look at these venomous harridans. Women, know your limits!
| 272 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:52:03pm |
re: #268 Gus 802
And those same hippies protested against the Iraq War too back in 2003! Can you believe that? Protesting against a war they don't support? That's downright un-American.
//
fuck, you mean we're allowed to not be pro-war?!?
holy shit
| 273 |
Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:52:09pm |
Same damn hippies that brought us the sexual revolution and rock and roll music. Creatures like Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin.
//
| 275 |
The Left Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:52:14pm |
re: #268 Gus 802
And those same hippies protested against the Iraq War too back in 2003! Can you believe that? Protesting against a war they don't support? That's downright un-American.
//
What do they think they're doing, exercising their first amendment rights like that. Don't they have any respect for the constitution? Your first amendment rights need to be kept safe! Swaddled in a cushy diaper under your bed!
| 276 |
Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:52:24pm |
re: #252 dragonfire1981
That would be problematic for my wife as she takes BC as a course of a treatment for a medical condition...and we live in MS.
You could always move somewhere liberal like Alabama--if you've got your papers.
| 277 |
The Left Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:52:45pm |
re: #271 goddamnedfrank
Look at these venomous harridans. Women, know your limits!
i love that quote. :)
| 278 |
Targetpractice Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:52:45pm |
re: #273 Gus 802
Same damn hippies that brought us the sexual revolution and rock and roll music. Creatures like Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin.
//
*quiet voice* Well, I kinda like Hendrix...
//
| 279 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:52:52pm |
re: #273 Gus 802
Same damn hippies that brought us the sexual revolution and rock and roll music. Creatures like Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin.
//
and don't forget apple computer
| 280 |
ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:54:18pm |
re: #274 ProLifeLiberal
It was a 2-piecer. Wish the limit was 300 characters.
| 281 |
garhighway Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:54:23pm |
re: #267 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Perhaps testing the waters for a third-party run? Wouldn't be the first time a loony billionaire thought he had what it takes to be president.
I suppose. But is he that opposed to the presumptive nominee Romney? I would have thought Mitt was his kind of guy. Or does The Donald require a higher crazy factor than Mitt can deliver?
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Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:54:29pm |
re: #279 WindUpBird
and don't forget apple computer
I would have fought in the Vietnam War if I was old enough.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:55:18pm |
re: #264 dragonfire1981
Somewhat OT, but if you're in the mood to laugh or cry or perhaps do both, check out the AFA facebook page, specifically the wall posts. Lots of crazy going on over there.
it's going to break their heart when the heathen mormon un-human monstroid reptillian gets the nomination
then they'll hurl their can of campbells soup at the television and rend their housedresses
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:55:41pm |
re: #281 garhighway
I suppose. But is he that opposed to the presumptive nominee Romney? I would have thought Mitt was his kind of guy. Or does The Donald require a higher crazy factor than Mitt can deliver?
The Donald doesn't exactly strike me as all there to begin with. Diving over the ledge into absolute lunacy probably isn't much of a stretch.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:57:19pm |
re: #285 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
The Donald doesn't exactly strike me as all there to begin with. Diving over the ledge into absolutely lunacy probably isn't much of a stretch.
dude likes being in the news
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Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:57:46pm |
I read somewhere that total cost of OWS in the USA is well over the price we paid for TARP, the stimulus, and both wars.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:58:50pm |
Whatever. The Don is still mad about getting pwned at the Correspondents dinner.
Still cracks me up.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:59:24pm |
re: #135 Obdicut
The drums are annoying. I wouldn't want to sleep there just because of them.
No one can make a drum circle stop. No power on earth will slow them down. I don't know why.
In the SCA we make them stay off to one side of the camp.
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garhighway Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:59:58pm |
re: #285 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
The Donald doesn't exactly strike me as all there to begin with. Diving over the ledge into absolute lunacy probably isn't much of a stretch.
I have had the pleasure of being around the edges of a Donald Trump transaction, and I have to say that when he is dealing with his business, he's a very savvy guy. His word is worth shit, but I gather that this is the norm in the world of NYC real estate. As goofy as he is, at the end of the day there is a really big apartment building where there wasn't one before, and he has walked away with a pile of money. (That's not to say that he hasn't had some misadventures, too, but when he sticks to his knitting he is very capable.)
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:03:35pm |
re: #290 garhighway
I've had a similar experience with Ted Turner, and for that experience, I was closer than "being around the edges"
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:04:07pm |
Is it bad that I know what the Party Bus is?
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:06:20pm |
re: #292 ProLifeLiberal
Is it bad that I know what the Party Bus is?
No,, but it IS bad if you're not inviting us on board!!!
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Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:06:31pm |
re: #275 iceweasel
What do they think they're doing, exercising their first amendment rights like that. Don't they have any respect for the constitution? Your first amendment rights need to be kept safe! Swaddled in a cushy diaper under your bed!
I can think of million cliches and memes about this. Another one being "freedom isn't free." Lots of oversimplifications. Most of them of course involves some kind of military action and/or death/wounding. Lots of guilt tripping. You don't even have to be a veteran to play that game. In fact, most of the people that do talk this way aren't veterans.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:06:52pm |
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garhighway Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:07:20pm |
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The Left Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:07:47pm |
re: #294 Gus 802
In fact, most of the people that do talk this way aren't veterans.
no doubt that's why they can talk so cavalierly about it.
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Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:09:19pm |
re: #297 iceweasel
no doubt that's why they can talk so cavalierly about it.
Yep. Like the famous warriors: Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, Dick Cheney...
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garhighway Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:14:18pm |
re: #299 engineer dog
CNN:
"there's been a slight rise in newt"
That is almost certainly the first time in the history of the English language that someone has uttered that sentence.
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Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:14:40pm |
re: #298 Gus 802
Yep. Like the famous warriors: Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, Dick Cheney...
My favorite...
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:16:24pm |
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Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:16:58pm |
re: #300 garhighway
That is almost certainly the first time in the history of the English language that someone has uttered that sentence.
Common parlance on the daily reports of the Royal Tudor Newtmongers' Exchange.
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garhighway Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:18:50pm |
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Gus Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:19:22pm |
The Big Business of Inhumane Detention of Immigrants
The inhumane and abusive immigration detention system is good business for one particular special interest group — the private prison industry.
The Department of Homeland Security assumes that mass detention is the key to immigration enforcement. But in fact, our detention system locks up thousands of immigrants unnecessarily every year, exposing detainees to brutal and inhumane conditions of confinement at massive costs to American taxpayers. Throughout the next two weeks, check back daily for posts about the costs of immigration detention, both human and fiscal, and what needs to be done to ensure fair and humane policy.
The inhumane and abusive system that is immigration detention in this country is good business for one particular special interest group — the private prison industry.Continues.
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William of Orange Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:49:05pm |
What a lousy actor!
If I ever saw fake rage, that's it. I think even his whig was scared of that.
Donald. You're totally clueless and trying to change the subject. Nothing else.
I think this clip might make it to Jon's "Moment of Zen".
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Nov 1, 2011 6:07:18pm |
re: #265 garhighway
random thought:
Might Trump be regretting his hasty departure from the race? He could be looking at the wreckage of Cain, Perry, Newt and Spooky-eyed Michelle and saying to himself "This thing is still up for grabs! I have got to get in there!"
I understand the risk in trying to guess at Trump's motivations, but why else would he be injecting himself into this mess?
Because he's The Donald, egomaniac extraordinaire...
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:03:20am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:08:31am |
re: #309 000G
Pleonasm. All Christianity is apocalyptic.
Quite proper if a particular sect puts a particular emphasis on the end-times, esp. if they're thought to be at hand.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:35:37am |
re: #310 Sergey Romanov
Quite proper if a particular sect puts a particular emphasis on the end-times, esp. if they're thought to be at hand.
Christianity put particular emphasis on the end-times and thought they were at hand since at least the Apostolic Age, i.e. from the very beginning. Historically, it's been the norm, not the exception.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:37:00am |
re: #311 000G
Christianity put particular emphasis on the end-times and thought they were at hand since at least the Apostolic Age, i.e. from the very beginning. Historically, it's been the norm, not the exception.
Is it the norm at this particular time?
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:51:10am |
re: #312 Sergey Romanov
Is it the norm at this particular time?
I would say that Revelation thought is still pretty much the norm, yes.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:59:20am |
re: #313 000G
I would say that Revelation thought is still pretty much the norm, yes.
And I wouldn't. I don't see an average Christian fretting about the end of the world at hand. Therefore, I do not consider the description excessive.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Nov 4, 2011 2:50:56am |
re: #314 Sergey Romanov
And I wouldn't. I don't see an average Christian fretting about the end of the world at hand. Therefore, I do not consider the description excessive.
The average Christian is not fretting about any of the core constitutive elements of Christianity, for example: the Trinity. Yet, Christianity is essentially trinitarian.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Nov 4, 2011 3:01:36am |
re: #315 000G
The average Christian is not fretting about any of the core constitutive elements of Christianity, for example: the Trinity. Yet, Christianity is essentially trinitarian.
So what? Yes, it is both trinitarian and apocalyptic in the sense that it is its doctrine. This is not the sense in which the phrase above was used, so retorting "all Christianity is apocalyptic" is illogical - yes, all Christianity has end-of-the world beliefs, but not all sects put the same emphasis on the Apocalypse or believe it will most probably happen in our lifetime (or at a particular date, even) and base a lot of their actions around this belief.
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