Jon Stewart on Donald Trump’s ‘Racism’ Accusation
“This hurts me”
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 10:45:33am |
Can you believe how racist they all were? Why, I’m offended! No, OUTRAGED!
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 10:56:17am |
I think it’s racist that they didn’t bother being racist about Asians.
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mikec6666 Thu, Nov 3, 2011 10:58:45am |
Freaking hilarious. My favorite line: “they can spend more time polishing their blacks, like chunks of Onyx.”
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Kragar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:02:23am |
re: #5 mikec6666
Freaking hilarious. My favorite line: “they can spend more time polishing their blacks, like chunks of Onyx.”
They’re like sexy tarantulas!
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:02:48am |
re: #5 mikec6666
Their blacks are just so much blacker!
I think it’s really funny that Ann Whitey-White-White Coulter is holding herself up as the judge of blackness. She also got in a little birther aside, by claiming Obama isn’t an American black.
Next up, I’m going to decide who is the most authentic American Indian. Because that makes sense.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:04:30am |
Sarkozy and Obama always look like they’re up to something…
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
Trying to behave themselves….
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
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Kragar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:06:53am |
re: #7 Obdicut
Next up, I’m going to decide who is the most authentic American Indian. Because that makes sense.
The answer is obviously Iron Eyes Cody.
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:08:42am |
re: #8 Killgore Trout
Sarkozy and Obama always look like they’re up to something…
[Link: www.daylife.com…][Link: www.daylife.com…]
Trying to behave themselves…
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
From the first one’s caption:
French President Nicolas Sarkozy taks with U.S. President Barack Obam before the first working session
That’s Nicolas Sarkoz and Barack Obam, if you’re gonna be all casual and stuff.
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lawhawk Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:09:22am |
re: #8 Killgore Trout
Yeah, they’re both laughing their asses off that they aren’t Silvio or Papandreou.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:12:03am |
Saw Dana Loesch on Anderson Cooper’s program today, arguing how incredibly racist the liberal smear machine against Cain was. Good stuff!
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garhighway Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:13:15am |
re: #12 000G
Saw Dana Loesch on Anderson Cooper’s program today, arguing how incredibly racist the liberal smear machine against Cain was. Good stuff!
Good stuff in what sense?
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Varek Raith Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:13:48am |
re: #8 Killgore Trout
Sarkozy and Obama always look like they’re up to something…
[Link: www.daylife.com…][Link: www.daylife.com…]
Trying to behave themselves…
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
Obama - Hehehe, I totally put a cherry bomb in Jintao’s bathroom!
Sarkozy - LOL
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:15:14am |
re: #13 garhighway
Good stuff in what sense?
Good wingnut entertainment. Props to CNN for enacting spectacle instead of producing news.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:18:26am |
Wall Street Occupiers Misdirect Anger: Christine Todd Whitman
“You reap what you sow” used to be a widely understood principle. Today, we seem to have lost that understanding as we watch the occupation of Wall Street and cities across the country.
For three years, we have been hearing how big business is bad and how the rich are avoiding their fair share of taxes. President Barack Obama has been leading that charge, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that we are now seeing the spread of the class warfare he has helped to kindle.
Let me say from the outset that I support the right of people to peacefully assemble to make their voices heard. That right has made America great, and as we mark more than a month of occupying Wall Street, it continues to feed the public discourse today. I can also understand the frustration and anger that many have felt, and why it has led to the demonstrations. That said, the notions that wealth is our nation’s plague or that Wall Street single-handedly caused the financial crisis are overly simplistic and counterproductive in the long run.
The juxtaposition of early October is certainly ironic: While millions mourned the death of Apple Inc. co-founder and billionaire Steve Jobs, thousands took to the streets in an expression of protest against similar wealth.
A quick review of the richest 25 Americans, according to Forbes magazine, reveals a reality that many protesters may be forgetting: Only four of those 25 are investors — Warren Buffett, George Soros, John Paulson and Carl Icahn. The rest, such as Jobs and most of the super-wealthy, created a product or service that the world wanted so much that we all bought it. […]
Are there ways of shielding earnings and are those practices used by those with the most income to shield? Of course. But the wealthiest 1 percent still pays 37 percent of the federal income taxes in this country, according to the National Taxpayers Union, a fact that needs to be recognized by the protesters.
We should be careful about taxing those people out of the country, since they will take their businesses — and jobs — with them. Massive redistribution of wealth in the form of taxes tends to discourages people from working — the exact opposite of what we should be trying to achieve. If we want to discourage people from spending on themselves, or encourage them to be charitable, let’s work toward tax policies that create those incentives. But penalizing work isn’t the answer.
As for Wall Street’s hand in the financial crisis, there’s no doubt that the banking industry was overleveraged, and that contributed heavily to the most recent recession. But as I have said before, prior to the decline, individuals and families bought homes (as they were encouraged to do, partly by the government via Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) and goods on credit they couldn’t afford to repay. And governments, both local and national, were deficit-spending with impunity. If the 1 percent were overleveraged, the 99 percent were spending money they didn’t have. We share the guilt across the economic spectrum.
Although the ideas espoused by the protesters are simplistic, those who have taken to the streets have the possibility of making lasting change. One gift the demonstrators have is a tool denied to many across the Arab world, where we have seen citizen uprisings this year: the ability to freely elect their representatives. I wonder how many of those camping out used that incredible power in the last election cycle.
Today’s demonstrators are understandably angry, scared and frustrated, but they are focusing on the wrong place. Instead of marching on the homes of the wealthy, they would effect real change by going to the polls every time they can.
[Link: bit.ly…]
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mikec6666 Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:21:09am |
re: #13 garhighway
I love watching the right wing tie itself in knots over this thing. I shouldn’t, but I do. James Carville was on CNN last night and he said what everyone I’m sure knows, that the Perry campaign did out Cain on this. A guy in that campaign worked for Cain and knew about all these issues. Dana Loesch was left sort of spluttering and mumbling about librul conspiracies.
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makeitstop Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:21:21am |
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garhighway Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:22:03am |
Ouch.
You know Cain is in it pretty deep when a Politco article about him has THIS subhead:
“Simon says you know you’re in trouble when Rick Perry can patronize you for lack of intelligence.”
[Link: www.politico.com…]
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Kragar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:23:05am |
re: #19 garhighway
Ouch.
You know Cain is in it pretty deep when a Politco article about him has THIS subhead:
“Simon says you know you’re in trouble when Rick Perry can patronize you for lack of intelligence.”
[Link: www.politico.com…]
“DIRECT HIT! WE’RE TAKING ON WATER!”
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leftynyc Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:23:07am |
re: #18 makeitstop
Yeah, pardon me for not giving a cold crap about what Christie Whitman says.
But why does she assume that the demonstrators are just going to demonstrate and not vote?
I stopped reading that right at where she claimed the OWS-ers were protesting against wealth. I thought she was too smart to say something that stupid.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:23:49am |
re: #22 leftynyc
I stopped reading that right at where she claimed the OWS-ers were protesting against wealth. I thought she was too smart to say something that stupid.
It’s not class warfare unless you convert it into something like that.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:23:56am |
re: #16 000G
She gets close to making a point or two, but veers off. Sad to see.
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Kragar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:24:57am |
re: #20 Gus 802
BREAKING NEWS!
Obama hugs Turkish PM Erdoga at G20!
What does it really mean!?
Physical contact is how sekret muslims communicate covertly with the hive mind.
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:25:36am |
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:25:55am |
I can’t watch the video (not available in Canada), but I assume he picked up on what she said on Red Eye.
Does everyone understand that Red Eye is a comedy show? That people say stuff all the time on the show that is supposed to be funny. It is a show that runs only once a day at 3am. It is supposed to be out there, and nothing on it is said seriously.
Sometimes the humour works, and sometimes it doesn’t.
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Gus Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:26:54am |
re: #27 Buck
I can’t watch the video (not available in Canada), but I assume he picked up on what she said on Red Eye.
Does everyone understand that Red Eye is a comedy show? That people say stuff all the time on the show that is supposed to be funny. It is a show that runs only once a day at 3am. It is supposed to be out there, and nothing on it is said seriously.
Sometimes the humour works, and sometimes it doesn’t.
Yeah. Clearly Ann Coulter was out of character here.
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jaunte Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:26:57am |
re: #22 leftynyc
I thought she was too smart to say something that stupid.
Whitman appeared twice in New York City after the September 11 attacks to inform New Yorkers that the toxins released by the attacks posed no threat to their health.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:27:26am |
re: #27 Buck
It’s a comedy show? Why does it claim to be a news show, then?
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garhighway Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:27:42am |
Andy Borowitz chimes in on Cain:
[Link: www.borowitzreport.com…]
sample:
Poll: Majority of Likely Voters Say They Were Sexually Harassed by Cain
Accusers March on Washington
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) – There was a new complication in the race for the White House today as a just-released poll revealed that a majority of likely voters say they were sexually harassed by candidate Herman Cain.
According to the poll conducted by the University of Minnesota’s Opinion Research Institute, 51% of voters “strongly agreed” with the statement “I have been sexually harassed by Herman Cain” while an additional 24% agreed that “Herman Cain is sexually harassing me right now.”
News of the poll hit just as Herman Cain accusers gathered for a march on Washington in numbers estimated at 999,999.
Asked about the size of the Washington gathering, Mr. Cain said he did not remember harassing so many women, but added, “I’ve never been very good with numbers.”
Even as the controversy swirled about Mr. Cain, he received a stirring vote of confidence from a prominent world leader.
“A man’s sex life should not affect his right to hold power,” said Italy’s Silvio Berlusconi.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:28:05am |
re: #27 Buck
I can’t watch the video (not available in Canada), but I assume he picked up on what she said on Red Eye.
Does everyone understand that Red Eye is a comedy show? That people say stuff all the time on the show that is supposed to be funny. It is a show that runs only once a day at 3am. It is supposed to be out there, and nothing on it is said seriously.
Sometimes the humour works, and sometimes it doesn’t.
Dana Loesch was actually on Anderson Cooper’s show so I think we have to take her remarks seriously rather than for the apparent comic content that was there.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:28:09am |
re: #27 Buck
I can’t watch the video (not available in Canada), but I assume he picked up on what she said on Red Eye.
Does everyone understand that Red Eye is a comedy show? That people say stuff all the time on the show that is supposed to be funny. It is a show that runs only once a day at 3am. It is supposed to be out there, and nothing on it is said seriously.
Sometimes the humour works, and sometimes it doesn’t.
Yeah, like she would never say something like that on Fox prime time.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:28:56am |
10:20 a.m. Tent city to talk about destructive anarchists
The campers will be discussing at their morning meeting how to keep out the destructive anarchist element.
“It’s not us, it’s a bunch of guys who wear black masks,” said Michael Porter, 24, who works full-time selling DirectTV and has been camping at the Occupy Oakland site. “It’s messing with our movement. They leech off our numbers — they only show up when there’s a rally.”
Porter will be leading a discussion at the meeting starting soon.
“There’s a handful of us trying to confront them but they just gang up on you.”
Maybe not partnering with Anon would be a good place to start.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:29:08am |
re: #30 Obdicut
It’s a comedy show? Why does it claim to be a news show, then?
Well, Jon Stewart is a librul news show, but he’s always claiming that it’s a comedy show.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:29:11am |
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garhighway Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:29:19am |
re: #34 Buck
That’s the joke.
Nice. It’s an extension of the GOP all-purpose non-apology: “I was just joking”.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:30:04am |
re: #35 Killgore Trout
10:20 a.m. Tent city to talk about destructive anarchists
Maybe not partnering with Anon would be a good place to start.
Who is ‘partnering’ with Anon, and what form does this partnership take?
Maybe you could make a page about this? Seriously, dude, you’re not even being shy about threadjacking anymore. At all.
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garhighway Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:31:08am |
re: #40 Obdicut
Who is ‘partnering’ with Anon, and what form does this partnership take?
They had one of those civil ceremonies. It was nice. There was cake.
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makeitstop Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:31:29am |
re: #29 jaunte
Whitman appeared twice in New York City after the September 11 attacks to inform New Yorkers that the toxins released by the attacks posed no threat to their health.
I will never, ever forgive her for that.
Putting lives at risk so the stock market could reopen should tell you all you need to know about who she stands with.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:32:42am |
Video of Masked Youths Destroying Public Buildings and Vandalizing Their Own City as Small Business Owners Fight Them Back
Looks like mostly protesters fighting amongst themselves. That might be a business owner in the mddle of the clip at the cafe. Towards the end of the clip there’s no effort to stop the destruction. Protesters cheer and clap as they smash windows.
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:33:02am |
re: #37 Obdicut
You have clearly never seen the show. If a person tells a joke on a comedy show, I think they can safely later say they were only joking.
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Varek Raith Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:33:25am |
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Gus Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:33:32am |
That must explain why conservatives never took Tina Fey seriously. She’s a comedian.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:34:02am |
re: #42 makeitstop
I will never, ever forgive her for that.
Putting lives at risk so the stock market could reopen should tell you all you need to know about who she stands with.
Doesn’t being Governor of New Jersey make you automatically blase’ about things like that?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:34:21am |
re: #40 Obdicut
Who is ‘partnering’ with Anon, and what form does this partnership take?
Maybe you could make a page about this? Seriously, dude, you’re not even being shy about threadjacking anymore. At all.
It’s not a secret. Anon helps with online organizing and managing webapges and chatrooms for the protests.
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makeitstop Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:34:29am |
re: #43 Killgore Trout
Protesters cheer and clap as they smash windows.
And KT cheers and claps seeing demonstrators finally live down to his expectations.
/
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Varek Raith Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:34:39am |
re: #44 Buck
You have clearly never seen the show. If a person tells a joke on a comedy show, I think they can safely later say they were only joking.
She said it on hannity.
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makeitstop Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:35:09am |
re: #47 oaktree
Doesn’t being Governor of New Jersey make you automatically blase’ about things like that?
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Yeah, could be.
She was head of the EPA at that point in time, IIRC.
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garhighway Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:35:41am |
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:36:25am |
re: #44 Buck
You have clearly never seen the show. If a person tells a joke on a comedy show, I think they can safely later say they were only joking.
Uh-huh. So what? The ‘joke’ is one that’s said in all seriousness by conservatives all the time, that Obama isn’t a ‘real’ black person because he’s half white, or that he’s not an American black because his father was from Africa.
So your contention is Coulter was mocking conservatives when she said that? Do you think Coulter’s persona in general is one that’s mocking the idiocy of conservatives?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:36:40am |
Graffiti is everywhere around 14th and Broadway. It appears there was a struggle between people who were bent on destruction and those trying to keep the peace.There were messages like “kill cops” and “not until the last capitalist is hung with the entrails of the last bureaucrat.” Next to that, somebody had graffitied a heart with the words “Nonviolence works better.”
The window at Tully’s was smashed in and boarded up, and a sign was put up with yet another heart on it that said “Action not done by the people”.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:39:12am |
re: #40 Obdicut
Who is ‘partnering’ with Anon, and what form does this partnership take?
Maybe you could make a page about this? Seriously, dude, you’re not even being shy about threadjacking anymore. At all.
Just in case you seriously don’t know: Occupy Wall Street And Anonymous: Turning A Fledgling Movement Into A Meme
Of course you could also google it for yourself.
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Gus Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:39:35am |
re: #43 Killgore Trout
Video of Masked Youths Destroying Public Buildings and Vandalizing Their Own City as Small Business Owners Fight Them Back
[Video]Looks like mostly protesters fighting amongst themselves. That might be a business owner in the mddle of the clip at the cafe. Towards the end of the clip there’s no effort to stop the destruction. Protesters cheer and clap as they smash windows.
Uh. In the first place the demonstrators are fighting amongst themselves. The regular OWS demonstrators are fighting back the black block types. Secondly, you are wrong about the last observation. That’s a completely different location. Not the same building. Again, that’s not the same incident or location. Might want to have some more coffee and/or slow down a touch.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:40:44am |
re: #48 Killgore Trout
It’s not a secret. Anon helps with online organizing and managing webapges and chatrooms for the protests.
Which webpages are anon managing? What chatrooms are you talking about?
Yes, ‘anon’ has done stuff related to the protests. how on earth do you jump from there to them ‘partnering’ with the protests? Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that some people who are in ‘anon’ are also in the protests, just like some people who are communists are, some people who are libertarians are, etc. etc.?
Is anyone who supports the protests now ‘partners’ with them, somehow?
And again: Why do you bring this up in every single thread, constantly, now doing it without even a pretense of embarrassment of going off-topic so quickly and derailing the thread? Why not use a page— like the one NJD put up about the Oakland stuff— to talk about it?
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jaunte Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:40:56am |
Anne Coulter, speaking on Red Eye:
“I am not a fan of racism when there is actual racism. When they say opposition to Obamacare is because Obama is black, yes, that is B.S. When they go after Clarence Thomas because they want to keep a pro-life justice off the Supreme Court, who happens to be black … their only defense of this rotten president is, ‘Oh, Republicans are racist,’ and then bring the nonsense charges. The same thing that Democrats in the South accused blacks of for a hundred years: ‘Oh, the over-sexual black man’ and then they turned around a hundred years later and do the same thing. This is a high-tech lynching.”
I don’t think she was joking, even if Red Eye is supposed to be a comedy show.
[Link: blog.zap2it.com…]
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:41:06am |
Yes, Ann Coulter’s brand of humor truly is amusing, like when her column dubbed Casey Anthony “Mother of the Year” before launching into a long tirade about how single mothers should be arrested for “child abuse” and how wrong liberals are for supporting single mothers.
I remember laughing for hours at that.
///(Need to wash taste of bile out my mouth)
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:41:25am |
re: #53 Obdicut
Uh-huh. So what? The ‘joke’ is one that’s said in all seriousness by conservatives all the time, that Obama isn’t a ‘real’ black person because he’s half white, or that he’s not an American black because his father was from Africa.
So your contention is Coulter was mocking conservatives when she said that? Do you think Coulter’s persona in general is one that’s mocking the idiocy of conservatives?
I didn’t hear her say that Obama wasn’t Black. Only that Cain was Blacker.
Like I said, I can’t watch the video on the post. If it refers to to what she said on Red Eye, then it was a joke about “our” blacks are better than theirs. And in the context of what was being discussed at the time was that Democrats were acting superior on this subject. She was making fun of that attitude.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:42:18am |
re: #61 Buck
I didn’t hear her say that Obama wasn’t Black. Only that Cain was Blacker.
And? What do you think of that, Buck?
Like I said, I can’t watch the video on the post. If it refers to to what she said on Red Eye, then it was a joke about “our” blacks are better than theirs. And in the context of what was being discussed at the time was that Democrats were acting superior on this subject. She was making fun of that attitude.
It’s really funny that you are so confident about what’s in the video when you can’t fucking see it. Obvious bias?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:42:36am |
re: #57 Obdicut
See #55 or go to google and research it for yourself. It’s easily obtained information. Very much out in the open.
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:44:37am |
re: #62 Obdicut
And? What do you think of that, Buck?
It’s really funny that you are so confident about what’s in the video when you can’t fucking see it. Obvious bias?
I saw the Red Eye segment. I admit I can’t see the Jon Stewart edited version.
I just wanted to make sure that people knew that Red Eye is a comedy show.
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Interesting Times Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:46:05am |
re: #62 Obdicut
It’s really funny that you are so confident about what’s in the video when you can’t fucking see it.
Because Red-Blooded Right-Wing Gut Feelings™ TRUMP empirical evidence any day. Duh.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:47:56am |
re: #51 makeitstop
Yeah, could be.
She was head of the EPA at that point in time, IIRC.
Didn’t that gig last until the first time she bumped heads with the President about appropriate policy? Oh that’s right, it was Cheney instead, wasn’t it?
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:50:03am |
re: #63 Killgore Trout
See #55 or go to google and research it for yourself. It’s easily obtained information. Very much out in the open.
Are you just ignoring what I’m writing again?
Some people in anon are definitely organizing on behalf of Occupy. Saying that anon an the protesters are partnering is silly, given that both groups are relatively amorphous. They share some members. They overlap somewhat with anarchists.
The report is about the Occupy people attempting to eject violent anarchists. This is a good thing, right?
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:50:12am |
re: #61 Buck
I didn’t hear her say that Obama wasn’t Black. Only that Cain was Blacker.
Like I said, I can’t watch the video on the post. If it refers to to what she said on Red Eye, then it was a joke about “our” blacks are better than theirs. And in the context of what was being discussed at the time was that Democrats were acting superior on this subject. She was making fun of that attitude.
Uh, Buck.
It wasn’t on the “comedy show” Red Eye. It was on Sean Hannity’s “news show.”
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leftynyc Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:50:38am |
re: #29 jaunte
Whitman appeared twice in New York City after the September 11 attacks to inform New Yorkers that the toxins released by the attacks posed no threat to their health.
Yes - I remember her lies well. I hope she never has a decent night’s sleep again for lying to us that way.
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Kragar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:51:06am |
re: #68 Charles
Uh, Buck.
It wasn’t on the “comedy show” Red Eye. It was on Sean Hannity’s “news show.”
[Video]
You mean Hannity isn’t a parody show?
Well… shit.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:51:22am |
re: #64 Buck
I saw the Red Eye segment. I admit I can’t see the Jon Stewart edited version.
I just wanted to make sure that people knew that Red Eye is a comedy show.
And what is your point about it being a comedy show, or that Ann Coulter is ‘joking’?
Why does that matter?
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:51:25am |
People on the right are called racists and they’re called things with an ease that I am uncomfortable with — and homophobic and all those other things. And I think that that is absolutely something that they have a real right to be angry about and to feel that they have been vilified for those things.
Jon Stewart
[Link: www.google.com…]
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:51:58am |
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leftynyc Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:52:21am |
re: #35 Killgore Trout
10:20 a.m. Tent city to talk about destructive anarchists
Maybe not partnering with Anon would be a good place to start.
Aren’t you bored trying to find every negative story about OWS and posting them on threads that have nothing to do with it. Care to comment about these people who joined the demostrators yesterday?
[Link: www.businessinsider.com…]
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:53:47am |
re: #67 Obdicut
The report is about the Occupy people attempting to eject violent anarchists. This is a good thing, right?
Sort of. I doubt they’ll accomplish much, that’s why a suggested that OWS distance itself from Anon. That would be where I’d start and it would take care of a lot of problems. I don’t think they’ll do that. If they have a better solution I’ll applaud it.
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bratwurst Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:53:59am |
re: #68 Charles
Uh, Buck.
It wasn’t on the “comedy show” Red Eye. It was on Sean Hannity’s “news show.”
[Video]
I actually consider Hannity comedy…especially the awkward 60 seconds when he pretends to be interested in what is coming up on Greta’s show.
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bratwurst Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:55:41am |
Also, if Red Eye generates a single-digit number of laughs per year…can they really claim to be a comedy program?
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Simply Sarah Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:56:26am |
re: #79 bratwurst
Also, if Red Eye generates a single-digit number of laughs per year…can they really claim to be a comedy program?
They can claim anything. Doesn’t mean we have to believe them.
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Kragar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:56:31am |
When the Brazilians decide a drug dealer isn’t getting away, they make damn sure he doesn’t get away.
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:57:13am |
re: #70 Charles
Nice try, though.
Like I said, I wasn’t sure if he was referring to the red eye segment.
Interesting fact is that she had to leave the Red Eye show in the middle of taping to do the Sean Hannity show. So she had just done the same thing on tape for Red Eye moments before.
However even in the clip she doesn’t say that Obama isn’t black.
That isn’t her point.
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Kragar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:57:38am |
re: #80 Simply Sarah
They can claim anything. Doesn’t mean we have to believe them.
This in no way negates the validity of my claim as Supreme Ruler of all Humanity.
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:57:42am |
re: #16 000G
Wall Street Occupiers Misdirect Anger: Christine Todd Whitman
As for Wall Street’s hand in the financial crisis, there’s no doubt that the banking industry was overleveraged, and that contributed heavily to the most recent recession. But as I have said before, prior to the decline, individuals and families bought homes (as they were encouraged to do, partly by the government via Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) and goods on credit they couldn’t afford to repay. And governments, both local and national, were deficit-spending with impunity. If the 1 percent were overleveraged, the 99 percent were spending money they didn’t have. We share the guilt across the economic spectrum.
[Link: bit.ly…]
Advanced Graduate Studies In Completely Missing The Point
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:58:19am |
re: #84 engineer dog
Advanced Graduate Studies In Completely Missing The Point
Is Buck teaching that class?
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:58:31am |
re: #75 Obdicut
Oh, damn, Buck was just lying again, and I fell for it.
Hie de ho.
I certainly was not lying. I was very clear and completely truthful.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:59:32am |
re: #77 Killgore Trout
Sort of. I doubt they’ll accomplish much, that’s why a suggested that OWS distance itself from Anon.
You didn’t suggest it, dude. You just snarked about it. Come on.
That would be where I’d start and it would take care of a lot of problems. I don’t think they’ll do that. If they have a better solution I’ll applaud it.
You seem to have so many ideas about how to fix the Occupy stuff, maybe you should try, you know, actually implementing them? Out of all the political groups in the US, they seem closest to you in attitude and perspective.
How on earth do they go about ‘distancing’ themselves from Anon? List things they could actually do that would achieve that.
And again: Why aren’t you making pages about this? Why do you prefer to threadjack? Why do you dodge that question?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:59:49am |
re: #84 engineer dog
Advanced Graduate Studies In Completely Missing The Point
It’s the Poor People’s fault! How dare they accept sub-prime balloon loans that the banks totally marketed to them!
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:00:34pm |
re: #86 Buck
I certainly was not lying. I was very clear and completely truthful.
So Buck, given that what she said on Red Eye and what she said on Hannity are exactly the same, then where does that leave your explanation of her statement?
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:02:53pm |
re: #90 jaunte
Satire?
Ah, but that fails Buck’s ‘logic’, which is that Red Eye is a comedy show so the things people say there are just joking (though why that would matter, I’m unclear on). But if she also said it on Hannity, then it’s not a satirical, jokey position, it’s her real one. Or maybe Hannity is a comedy program too.
Fox News Comedy. Sure, that’s what the C stands for.
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:04:01pm |
re: #44 Buck
You have clearly never seen the show. If a person tells a joke on a comedy show, I think they can safely later say they were only joking.
some “jokes” are in execrably poor taste
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:04:06pm |
re: #90 jaunte
Satire?
No no, she was just repeating the joke for the folks who’d missed “Red-Eye.” Can’t you people take a joke?
///
| 94 |
Varek Raith Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:05:07pm |
re: #89 Obdicut
So Buck, given that what she said on Red Eye and what she said on Hannity are exactly the same, then where does that leave your explanation of her statement?
42?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:05:07pm |
re: #87 Obdicut
You seem to have so many ideas about how to fix the Occupy stuff, maybe you should try, you know, actually implementing them? Out of all the political groups in the US, they seem closest to you in attitude and perspective.
Because I don’t think enough people are serious about cleaning up the movement. Judging from my conversations here (such as this one) people just bristle and seethe over any criticism of the movement. Getting rid of the anarchists would be a great idea but I don;t think they’re actually going to do it.
And again: Why aren’t you making pages about this? Why do you prefer to threadjack? Why do you dodge that question?
Because I don’t want to. You’re not the boss of me.
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Gus Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:05:28pm |
In other news. Presenting Awakening 2012:
Confirmed speakers for Awakening 2012 already include Liberty Counsel’s Staver, who said that Obama made the U.S. “one of the world’s immoral leaders” for opposing the criminalization of homosexuality; LC’s Barber, who has called President Obama “anti-God”; Engle, who used one of his The Call prayer rallies to defend Uganda’s “kill the gays” bill; Quinlan, the prominent ex-gay leader; John Stemberger, a Florida anti-gay and anti-Muslim activist; and Gaffney, the conspiracy theorist who has claimed that Obama is a secret Muslim.
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Kragar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:06:54pm |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:07:21pm |
re: #95 Killgore Trout
I would also suggest that adding security to the camps to prevent rapes and theft would be a good idea too but any mention of rapes at OWS results in butthurt howls and accusations of smears. If you can’t talk about the problem you have no chance of fixing it.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:07:24pm |
re: #91 Obdicut
Nah. It just means that Ann Coulter is too fucking stupid to know the difference between a “comedy” show and a “hard news” show.
“Our blacks”? “Their blacks”? The bitch is a gawt-damned cancer.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:07:31pm |
There’s absolutely nothing funny about what Ann Coulter said, and she did not intend it to be a joke.
On the front page of her website today is an article titled “WHY OUR BLACKS ARE BETTER THAN THEIR BLACKS.”
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:09:20pm |
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leftynyc Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:09:27pm |
re: #95 Killgore Trout
If anyone is bristling it’s likely because it’s ALL you do. NOthing about the message, nothing about the peaceful protests that are occuring all over the country, nothing about the veterans that joined the demonstrators yesterday
[Link: www.businessinsider.com…]
Your teeny tiny message has been received loud and clear and it’s begun to bore everyone.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:11:04pm |
Just for the record, I don’t “have” any “blacks”.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:11:40pm |
re: #95 Killgore Trout
Because I don’t think enough people are serious about cleaning up the movement.
Yeah. You have a basic problem in your approach to OWS. You say that you want them to be less radical, but you attempt to portray them as so radical that anyone supporting them is enabling radicals. You constantly equate them with the Tea Party, even though the glaring difference— the OWS people are protesting something that’s real, an actual huge problem that’s an enormous challenge to our society, whereas the Tea Party people were protesting fictions or just Obama himself. You celebrate— literally— violence being inflicted on protesters while claiming that they’re Marxist trust-funders without a shred of evidence, and then, of course, turn out to be wrong about that. If you held yourself to the same standard you’re holding the Occupy people to, I’d have a hell of a lot more respect for your criticisms.
As it stands, I think I’m just going to be ignoring your hourly OWS postings. You’ve made your case, you have valid criticisms, but you’re adding absolutely nothing new to the equation, and I think you’re doing exactly what you criticze Occupy for and spoiling your own valid message with extremist bullshit.
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:13:50pm |
re: #100 Charles
There’s absolutely nothing funny aboutwhat Ann Coulter said, and she did not intend it to be a joke.
On the front page of her website today is an article titled “WHY OUR BLACKS ARE BETTER THAN THEIR BLACKS.”
There’s more offensive stuff in that article than there was in Stewart’s clips of her. Yeesh.
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Gus Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:14:08pm |
re: #98 Killgore Trout
I would also suggest that adding security to the camps to prevent rapes and theft would be a good idea too but any mention of rapes at OWS results in butthurt howls and accusations of smears. I you can’t talk about the problem you have no chance of fixing it.
And how long have you been in contact with OWS? Have you written to them? Have you Tweeted them? Do you think we here are a going to affect anything that may be going on at Zuccotti Park by just making comments? How so? By calling them “dirty hippies” every other minute? By deriding them as being only “Marxists and anarchists”?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:15:53pm |
re: #106 Gus 802
By calling them “dirty hippies” every other minute? By deriding them as being only “Marxists and anarchists”?
You left out “violent extremists.”
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bratwurst Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:16:06pm |
re: #106 Gus 802
My favorite moment in this saga was when he qualified the revelation that he had not actually visited his local protest with the fact that he had “driven by”.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:16:54pm |
re: #107 Killgore Trout
You left out “violent extremists.”
I should use “doughy headed populists” more but i keep forgetting.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:17:25pm |
re: #108 bratwurst
My favorite moment in this saga was when he qualified the revelation that he had not actually visited his local protest with the fact that he had “driven by”.
I never visited a tea party either. Why would I?
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bratwurst Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:20:03pm |
re: #110 Killgore Trout
I never visited a tea party either. Why would I?
I was commenting on the idea that you seemed to think there was something relevant about the fact you had driven by rather than the fact you hadn’t visited.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:21:26pm |
re: #88 Alouette
The actul argument goes:
The people who took the sub-prime balloon loans that the banks totally marketed to them deserved what they got for having been stupid!
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:22:17pm |
re: #103 Slumbering Behemoth
Just for the record, I don’t “have” any “blacks”.
Do you have any brakes? Working, on your bike?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:22:18pm |
re: #111 bratwurst
I was commenting on the fact that you seemed to think there was some relevance to the fact that you had driven by.
It came up in conversation. I only drove by because it was on my route. I’ll probably drive by again on my next attempt to get my building permit.
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Kragar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:22:19pm |
re: #112 000G
The actul argument goes:
The people who took the sub-prime balloon loans that the banks totally marketed to them deserved what they got for having been stupid!
“You fucked up. You trusted us.”
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Gus Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:22:44pm |
re: #107 Killgore Trout
You left out “violent extremists.”
Well I’m a little confused about your whole take on this. I don’t remember you having such an intensity about this as you did with the Tea Party. I also don’t recall you bringing up the Tea Party on threads within the first 100 posts as you frequently do now. It seems as though the only thing you think about these days is OWS — morning, noon and night. I don’t even recall you saying a word about the recent Georgia right wing terrorist news.
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makeitstop Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:23:09pm |
Republicans remain in serious denial.
Among Republican voters nationwide, 76% were able to correctly identify Cain as the candidate who was accused of sexual harassment in the 1990s. Just 13% of GOP Primary voters think it’s Very Likely that the charges against Cain are serious and true. Another 25% think it’s Somewhat Likely. Forty-eight percent (48%) consider it unlikely, but that includes only 13% who say that it is Not at All Likely.
Just 13% believe the charges are true, even though Cain himself has acknowledged that the charges are true.
SMMFH.
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freetoken Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:24:21pm |
re: #96 Gus 802
In other news. Presenting Awakening 2012:
The title sounds like one of those short-run horror movies that barely gross the few million dollars it takes to make and ends up on HBO 6 months later.
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Kragar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:25:53pm |
I’ve found our winner for Kilgore’s “Protestor of the Day” award.
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Charleston Chew Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:26:09pm |
re: #20 Gus 802
BREAKING NEWS!
Obama hugs Turkish PM Erdoga at G20!
What does it really mean!?
These critics must not have any social skills at all. “Why isn’t the President a total dick in every petty little way possible to all the most powerful people in the world. Surely that’s in America’s best interest.”
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:26:38pm |
re: #98 Killgore Trout
If you can’t talk about the problem you have no chance of fixing it.
Kinda hard to take someone serious about being reasonably interested in fixing OWS and then talking with him about it when that same someone gloated at people getting maced and called them trust fund marxists without any evidence very early on during these events. And doubled down on that later.
Just sayin’.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:26:57pm |
Nifty. My new law firm’s name is Shook, Hardy & Bacon. I like that. Very manly.
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:27:28pm |
re: #117 makeitstop
Republicans remain in serious denial.
Just 13% believe the charges are true, even though Cain himself has acknowledged that the charges are true.
SMMFH.
Either in denial or simply haven’t watched any news in the last 48 hours.
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iceweasel Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:27:52pm |
re: #122 Obdicut
Nifty. My new law firm’s name is Shook, Hardy & Bacon. I like that. Very manly.
We’ve got one here called Bilkus & Boyle.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:27:57pm |
re: #122 Obdicut
Nifty. My new law firm’s name is Shook, Hardy & Bacon. I like that. Very manly.
mmmmm…. bacon
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:28:46pm |
re: #116 Gus 802
I don’t remember you having such an intensity about this as you did with the Tea Party.
Your faulty memory isn’t my problem.
I don’t even recall you saying a word about the recent Georgia right wing terrorist news.
I don’t recall if I had anything to say about that or not but the recent rise and acceptance of left wing extremism and violence has dampened my enthusiasm for exposing right wing extremism. I don’t complain about any legitimate criticisms of the right even though I may not have the same enthusiasm as I once did. I just don’t want to end up a blinded partisan who can only see extremism on one side of the political isle why ignoring the extremism on my side.
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:29:16pm |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:29:22pm |
re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I’ve found our winner for Kilgore’s “Protestor of the Day” award.
Nihilism!
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:29:35pm |
By the way, I just tried to find any evidence that Coulter used “the same joke” (as Buck put it) on the Red Eye show — nothing on YouTube, nothing on Coulter’s site, Googled it and got nothing.
Maybe I missed something, but the only reference I can find, anywhere, to Coulter making this “joke” is to her appearance on the Sean Hannity show.
Just sayin’.
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makeitstop Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:29:40pm |
OurDC Occupies Mitch McConnel’s office
More than 20 District residents entered Sen. McConnell’s office shortly after 10 a.m. this morning pledging to remain until the Senate Minority Leader grants a face-to-face meeting on the Rebuild America Act. As the Senate prepares for a critical vote on the $50 billion infrastructure spending bill. OurDC members are lobbying senators via cell phone from Sen.McConnell’s office.
That cowardly bastard will leave town before he risks a face to face on his obstructionism.
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Varek Raith Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:29:44pm |
re: #122 Obdicut
Nifty. My new law firm’s name is Shook, Hardy & Bacon. I like that. Very manly.
Could be worse.
[Link: nylawblog.typepad.com…]
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:29:54pm |
re: #12 000G
Saw Dana Loesch on Anderson Cooper’s program today, arguing how incredibly racist the liberal smear machine against Cain was. Good stuff!
Unlike the comments at Big ____ any time any of us 39,999,997 Black people who aren’t on the tea party carnival circuit are even given passing mention there. e_e
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:30:36pm |
re: #129 Charles
By the way, I just tried to find any evidence that Coulter used “the same joke” (as Buck put it) on the Red Eye show — nothing on YouTube, nothing on Coulter’s site, Googled it and got nothing.
Maybe I missed something, but the only reference I can find, anywhere, to Coulter making this “joke” is to her appearance on the Sean Hannity show.
Just sayin’.
Well, obviously the liberal media is trying to hide any evidence of it so as to make her look bad! After all, it was a joke, Buck said so!
///
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HappyWarrior Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:31:06pm |
re: #117 makeitstop
Republicans remain in serious denial.
Just 13% believe the charges are true, even though Cain himself has acknowledged that the charges are true.
SMMFH.
Damn Cain being part of the liberal lynching against himself :).
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:31:22pm |
re: #126 Killgore Trout
I don’t recall if I had anything to say about that or not but the recent rise and acceptance of left wing extremism and violence has dampened my enthusiasm for exposing right wing extremism.
That is the weirdest expression of MBF cognitive dissonance I’ve ever seen.
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JeffM70 Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:32:53pm |
re: #117 makeitstop
Republicans remain in serious denial.
Just 13% believe the charges are true, even though Cain himself has acknowledged that the charges are true.
SMMFH.
Well not quite. He said that he was accused of sexual harassment and there was a settlement. He didn’t say the charges themselves were true.
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Gus Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:33:05pm |
re: #126 Killgore Trout
Your faulty memory isn’t my problem.
I don’t recall if I had anything to say about that or not but the recent rise and acceptance of left wing extremism and violence has dampened my enthusiasm for exposing right wing extremism. I don’t complain about any legitimate criticisms of the right even though I may not have the same enthusiasm as I once did. I just don’t want to end up a blinded partisan who can only see extremism on one side of the political isle why ignoring the extremism on my side.
My faulty memory isn’t your problem? My how diplomatic of you. You do realize the weight that phrase carries right? “Oh, that’s your problem?” And where in the world do you see people accepting of left wing extremism or violence? So just because we don’t accept the world according to Killgore that means we accept it? That’s illogical.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:33:11pm |
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freetoken Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:33:18pm |
re: #136 MikeySDCA
It’s kept in the secret lair under the Denver airport.
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Charleston Chew Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:33:19pm |
re: #43 Killgore Trout
Video of Masked Youths Destroying Public Buildings and Vandalizing Their Own City as Small Business Owners Fight Them Back
[Video]Looks like mostly protesters fighting amongst themselves. That might be a business owner in the mddle of the clip at the cafe. Towards the end of the clip there’s no effort to stop the destruction. Protesters cheer and clap as they smash windows.
RT loves any “America’s falling apart” stories.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:33:27pm |
re: #136 MikeySDCA
OT: Does anyone know why Charles has the Dashboard set to Mountain Time?
That’s where our server is located. You’re right though - it should be adjusted to match the Pacific time shown everywhere else.
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erik_t Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:34:02pm |
re: #122 Obdicut
Nifty. My new law firm’s name is Shook, Hardy & Bacon. I like that. Very manly.
I prefer Dewey, Cheetham & Howe.
I should read all the way to the end before I excitedly make a Car Talk joke.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:34:25pm |
re: #103 Slumbering Behemoth
Just for the record, I don’t “have” any “blacks”.
Neither do they.
They got their asses kicked, last time they tried to extend the period of ownership.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:34:25pm |
re: #135 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I know. Right?
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:35:11pm |
re: #140 freetoken
It’s kept in the secret lair under the Denver airport.
Ooo, I thought you were joking…
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Gus Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:36:43pm |
re: #138 Gus 802
My faulty memory isn’t your problem? My how diplomatic of you. You do realize the weight that phrase carries right? “Oh, that’s your problem?” And where in the world do you see people accepting of left wing extremism or violence? So just because we don’t accept the world according to Killgore that means we accept it? That’s illogical.
Or to make a long story short: nice straw man.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:36:44pm |
re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How can it be true that ACORN is doing anything, when ACORN doesn’t exist?
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HappyWarrior Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:36:53pm |
re: #129 Charles
By the way, I just tried to find any evidence that Coulter used “the same joke” (as Buck put it) on the Red Eye show — nothing on YouTube, nothing on Coulter’s site, Googled it and got nothing.
Maybe I missed something, but the only reference I can find, anywhere, to Coulter making this “joke” is to her appearance on the Sean Hannity show.
Just sayin’.
A joke? Kind of like we should kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity ha-ha.
| 150 |
Varek Raith Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:37:15pm |
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:37:25pm |
re: #126 Killgore Trout
Your faulty memory isn’t my problem.
I don’t recall if I had anything to say about that or not but the recent rise and acceptance of left wing extremism and violence has dampened my enthusiasm for exposing right wing extremism. I don’t complain about any legitimate criticisms of the right even though I may not have the same enthusiasm as I once did. I just don’t want to end up a blinded partisan who can only see extremism on one side of the political isle why ignoring the extremism on my side.
because you immediately labelled the demonstrations as “extremism”
the way you seem to be using the term “extremist”, any american exercising their constitutional right “peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”, qualifies as an extremist
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freetoken Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:38:12pm |
re: #148 Obdicut
Fox is claiming the organization involved is the NYC descendent of the previous ACORN.
As long as they can use the
ACORN!!
label they will.
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erik_t Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:38:24pm |
re: #150 Varek Raith
F’ing acorns, how do they work? And why do they wear that silly little hat?
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leftynyc Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:38:34pm |
re: #148 Obdicut
How can it be true that ACORN is doing anything, when ACORN doesn’t exist?
You can’t really expect fox to do anything resembling actual journalism - it wouldn’t be sporting.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:38:50pm |
re: #108 bratwurst
My favorite moment in this saga was when he qualified the revelation that he had not actually visited his local protest with the fact that he had “driven by”.
Why bother visiting when DKos the lefty sites tell us everything we want to know.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:40:14pm |
re: #151 engineer dog
because you immediately labelled the demonstrations as “extremism”
the way you seem to be using the term “extremist”, any american exercising their constitutional right “peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”, qualifies as an extremist
I labeled them extremists after looking into the original Marxist and anarchist organizers. The continued presence of anarchists and Marxists leads me to believe that the movement is too extreme for me and not something I’m interested in supporting. The continued violence and destruction is not terribly surprising to me.
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:40:24pm |
re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
FNC’s latest smear.
But, if it’s true? Is it a smear?
It looks like a smear when it’s based on one anonymous source.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:40:38pm |
re: #148 Obdicut
I know! Just thought that was a pretty outlandish claim on Fox’s part.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:41:46pm |
re: #156 Killgore Trout
The continued presence of anarchists and Marxists leads me to believe that the movement is too extreme for me and not something I’m interested in supporting.
Lol then don’t. Who cares?
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makeitstop Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:41:55pm |
re: #157 wrenchwench
It looks like a smear when
it’s based on one anonymous sourceit appears on Fox News’ web site.
Fixed.
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:42:39pm |
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:43:06pm |
re: #156 Killgore Trout
I labeled them extremists after looking into the original Marxist and anarchist organizers. The continued presence of anarchists and Marxists leads me to believe that the movement is too extreme for me and not something I’m interested in supporting. The continued violence and destruction is not terribly surprising to me.
then the united states should be too extremist for you since it continues to tolerate the presence of anarchists and marxists
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:43:43pm |
re: #162 engineer dog
then the united states should be too extremist for you since it continues to tolerate the presence of anarchists and marxists
it appears America is warming up to marxism! [Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com…]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:44:16pm |
re: #162 engineer dog
then the united states should be too extremist for you since it continues to tolerate the presence of anarchists and marxists
There’s a difference between a state tolerating things and private individuals tolerating things.
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Charleston Chew Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:44:40pm |
re: #148 Obdicut
How can it be true that ACORN is doing anything, when ACORN doesn’t exist?
ACORN’s a Highlander?
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:44:54pm |
re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It’s weird. The main, obviously problem with Occupy is that it’s very disorganized. Yet all the scaaary criticisms of it are how this group or that group is organizing it. If it’s got so much organization, shouldn’t it be a bit more organized?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:44:59pm |
re: #157 wrenchwench
It looks like a smear when it’s based on one anonymous source.
My guess is Fox is overestimating the importance of it’s own story. I don’t think the ACORN spinoff is terribly worried about being outed as an OWS supporter.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:45:52pm |
re: #166 Obdicut
It’s weird. The main, obviously problem with Occupy is that it’s very disorganized. Yet all the scaaary criticisms of it are how this group or that group is organizing it. If it’s got so much organization, shouldn’t it be a bit more organized?
I imagine it’s a bit like herding cats.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:46:07pm |
re: #162 engineer dog
then the united states should be too extremist for you since it continues to tolerate the presence of anarchists and marxists
Love it or leave it, eh? Nice. I fully support the Clan’s right to free speech but I’m not going to be attending their rallies.
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:46:12pm |
re: #156 Killgore Trout
I labeled them extremists after looking into the original Marxist and anarchist organizers. The continued presence of anarchists and Marxists leads me to believe that the movement is too extreme for me and not something I’m interested in supporting. The continued violence and destruction is not terribly surprising to me.
and your assertion here that OWS was “organized” by anybody, much less “anarchists and marxists” is absurd on the face of it and disqualifies the conclusions you base on it
you might as well blame the “anarchist” designers of random cat meandering
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:46:27pm |
re: #156 Killgore Trout
I labeled them extremists after looking into the original Marxist and anarchist organizers. The continued presence of anarchists and Marxists leads me to believe that the movement is too extreme for me and not something I’m interested in supporting. The continued violence and destruction is not terribly surprising to me.
You found some organizers you don’t like, which meant that the women who were maced were marxists with trust funds. Your track record of impartial objectivity in reportage on OWS is laughable. You’re just making it up as you go along.
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Simply Sarah Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:46:53pm |
Oh look. While I was busy trying to turn my thoughts into a badly written novella to respond to Obdicut downstairs, I’ve been missing today’s episode of Killgore vs. Half the Site.
600 channels and it’s the only damn thing on besides infomercials. Not even available in fucking HD.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:47:09pm |
re: #170 engineer dog
and your assertion here that OWS was “organized” by anybody, much less “anarchists and marxists” is absurd on the face of it and disqualifies the conclusions you base on it
you might as well blame the “anarchist” designers of random cat meandering
Anon and adbusters. Look it up.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:47:17pm |
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:47:33pm |
re: #165 Charleston Chew
ACORN’s a Highlander?
No, a Time Lord. It regenerated into a new form, but the wingnuts have discovered it’s true nature. And keep screaming “EXTERMINATE!”
/
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lawhawk Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:48:43pm |
re: #124 iceweasel
I’m a fan of Dewey, Cheatem and Howe myself.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:48:44pm |
re: #171 goddamnedfrank
You found some organizers you don’t like, which meant that the women who were maced were marxists with trust funds. Your track record of impartial objectivity in reportage on OWS is laughable. You’re just making it up as you go along.
A protest is only a protest if every single person protesting believes precisely the same thing
you can’t assemble! It’s not in the rules!
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HoosierHoops Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:48:48pm |
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:49:53pm |
re: #164 Sergey Romanov
There’s a difference between a state tolerating things and private individuals tolerating things.
for the record, it is clear that the protesters are strenuously rejecting any violence, which has unfortunately but predictably made its way into the demonstrations, by forceably attempting to restrain any violent actions, and posting signs disowning violence when it occurs
to think that all OWS protests could possibly identify and publicly disown and eject anybody who could be labelled an “anarchist” or a “marxist” from a large spontaneous demonstration strains credulity
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:49:53pm |
My brother posted this on his FB page yesterday:
Translating a speech that a German politician will give next week in Washington. He tosses off words like Sozialpartnerschaft [Social Partnership], kooperative Arbeitsbeziehungen [cooperative working relationships], Kündigungsschutz [Protection against dismissal] — I can translate them, but will an American audience understand the concepts? These ideas are dinosaurs in the US: so thoroughly extinct that hardliners can deny they ever existed.
In brackets are Google’s translations [my brother would kill me…]. We have a couple of German speakers here, and a bunch of people familiar with American political culture—what do you think?
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:50:43pm |
re: #174 Killgore Trout
Anon and adbusters. Look it up.
since when did somebody posting a web page ever prove jack shit?
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Simply Sarah Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:51:12pm |
re: #181 wrenchwench
My brother posted this on his FB page yesterday:
In brackets are Google’s translations [my brother would kill me…]. We have a couple of German speakers here, and a bunch of people familiar with American political culture—what do you think?
So…Marxism, socialism, communism?
/
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:51:25pm |
re: #179 HoosierHoops
FU CCA!
LOL
How are you doing dude?
Got a job, finally. Start tomorrow morning. Signed up for college (again). Financial aid in place. Start that in January. So today is better then the last three years. Heh.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:51:29pm |
re: #176 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
No, a Time Lord. It regenerated into a new form, but the wingnuts have discovered it’s true nature. And keep screaming “EXTERMINATE!”
/
I presume the plunger-like thing on GOP Daleks is for sucking up and/or grabbing campaign contributions? And there are decals indicating corporate sponsors on the back side of the chassis, like NASCAR?
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freetoken Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:51:46pm |
re: #181 wrenchwench
He tosses off words like Sozialpartnerschaft [Social Partnership], kooperative Arbeitsbeziehungen [cooperative working relationships], Kündigungsschutz [Protection against dismissal]
SOCIALISM!! COOPS!!
COMMUNISTS!!! ALL
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:52:16pm |
re: #174 Killgore Trout
Anon and adbusters. Look it up.
e_e We already know about those. I haven’t found anyone on here agreeing with either of them.
We have been over this a thousand times, KT.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:52:53pm |
re: #180 engineer dog
That’s good, but I didn’t say anything about OWS as such. This kind of comment should be addressed to KT, IMHO. I just found the comparison incorrect.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:52:54pm |
re: #192 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
that’s what the internet is for!
People to repeat themselves a thousand times :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:53:28pm |
DRUM CIRCLE IS TOO LOUD!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:54:53pm |
FINGER-WAVING IS TOO WEIRD
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:55:17pm |
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albusteve Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:55:19pm |
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makeitstop Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:55:24pm |
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:55:51pm |
re: #129 Charles
By the way, I just tried to find any evidence that Coulter used “the same joke” (as Buck put it) on the Red Eye show — nothing on YouTube, nothing on Coulter’s site, Googled it and got nothing.
Maybe I missed something, but the only reference I can find, anywhere, to Coulter making this “joke” is to her appearance on the Sean Hannity show.
Just sayin’.
[Link: www.mediaite.com…]
What’s interesting is that, just a few hours before her Hannity appearance, she espoused the same views elsewhere in the Fox News studios and was called out for them. While Red Eye airs hours after Hannity, it tapes earlier so Levy had already given Coulter a small taste of the reaction that much of America was giving her last night.
Just sayin’
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:56:02pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:56:10pm |
re: #174 Killgore Trout
Anon and adbusters. Look it up.
I don’t remember whether you posted this article, or a different one from the same website, but this downplays Adbuster’s role:
[…]
What changed from last November to this July that caused Occupy Wall Street to catch on where Carnivaleque Rebellion flopped? Two things. One was the reality of the Arab Spring, which has shown the world an example of people power not seen in ages. But still more importantly, in my mind, is the fact that Adbusters’s call to action intersected with other forces. Occupy Wall Street was, in fact, preceded by “Bloombergville,” a similar camp out of activists, mainly young people, who decided to sleep in lower Manhattan in July to protest the escalating budget cuts in New York. With limited exceptions, the media didn’t even bother to show up to be snide about Bloombergville — but New Yorkers Against the Budget Cuts, which helped organize Bloombergville, was early to take up the Occupy Wall Street initiative and give it some foot soldiers.
This convergence is part of the narrative now, recounted by some of the protesters themselves in a wonderful publication put together by members of the encampment: the Occupied Wall Street Journal. For myself, the important thing about retracing this history is to cut against some of the notions that the movement emerged from nowhere, spontaneously. In contrast to the Carnivalesque Rebellion, Occupy Wall Street was able to draw on the initiative and example of organizations that went before. Political organization is important now, and will be going forward.
[…]
The headline says they “helped spark” OWS. Maybe you’re giving them too much credit.
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:56:15pm |
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Simply Sarah Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:56:18pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:57:08pm |
re: #211 Buck
[Link: www.mediaite.com…]
Just sayin’
Conservatives find the most telling things funny.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:58:09pm |
re: #214 engineer dog
no putting words in my mouth if you please, sir
“Love it or leave it” is a con retort, anyway.
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lawhawk Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:58:27pm |
re: #212 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Big fiddle is ripping us off. /the devil
No it isn’t. /Johnny.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:59:11pm |
re: #211 Buck
Uh, Buck — she didn’t use her “our blacks are better” joke in that segment. That’s what you claimed.
Just sayin’.
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Simply Sarah Thu, Nov 3, 2011 12:59:31pm |
re: #211 Buck
[Link: www.mediaite.com…]
Just sayin’
So…her excuse is that she had already made the comments previously and knew they we’re going to be well-received, but went ahead and made them again anyway later? Way to back her up there, Buck.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:00:37pm |
And Buck and Ann Coulter wonder why they can only get 17 of The Blacks to vote for their confederate candidates. 9_9
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:00:59pm |
re: #222 Simply Sarah
So…her excuse is that she had already made the comments previously and knew they we’re going to be well-received, but went ahead and made them again anyway later? Way to back her up there, Buck.
No… once again, Buck is misleading you. She did not say “our blacks are better than their blacks” on Red Eye.
Just a whole lot of other ugly “reverse racism” victimhood.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:00:59pm |
re: #220 lawhawk
Big fiddle is ripping us off. /the devil
No it isn’t. /Johnny.
[Video]
Wasn’t Johnny advocating “Buy Gold” right after their transaction?
;)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:01:18pm |
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:01:42pm |
re: #211 Buck
Oh wow, so even on the Red Eye show her nasty comments got called out for being racist.
What do you think of her statements, Buck?
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:02:34pm |
re: #227 Sergey Romanov
That’s pleonasm.
//
Sergey — Pamela Geller responded to your 270 million victims post, without mentioning you or linking, of course.
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Varek Raith Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:02:44pm |
re: #228 Obdicut
Oh wow, so even on the Red Eye show her nasty comments got called out for being racist.
What do you think of her statements, Buck?
Acorn
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:03:07pm |
re: #230 Charles
Sergey — Pamela Geller responded to your 270 million victims post, without mentioning you or linking, of course.
Thanks, I’ll take a look now.
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:03:15pm |
re: #156 Killgore Trout
I labeled them extremists after looking into the original Marxist and anarchist organizers.
you haven’t “looked in” to anything. you won’t even condescend to get out of your car and talk to actual OWS protesters when you have the chance.
you merely are pleased to think you have discerned the true ‘extremist” origins of a nationwide protest on the basis of a little web browsing
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Gus Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:03:52pm |
re: #230 Charles
Sergey — Pamela Geller responded to your 270 million victims post, without mentioning you or linking, of course.
Was it a rational response?
//
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erik_t Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:03:57pm |
re: #224 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
And Buck and Ann Coulter wonder why they can only get 17 of The Blacks to vote for their confederate candidates. 9_9
Only the very best of Blacks, you see.
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Simply Sarah Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:04:08pm |
re: #225 Charles
No… once again, Buck is misleading you. She did not say “our blacks are better than their blacks” on Red Eye.
Just a whole lot of other ugly “reverse racism” victimhood.
Even better. He throws that up to “defend” her (Somehow) by claiming she had already made the remarks and had them challenged…and then did it again later. But that’s not even the reality of it? So he’s making up shit that actually find a way to make her come off as worse in some bizarre way to prove his point that he totally watched a clip that doesn’t exist? Yeah, I’m not even going to try and work that one out.
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Political Atheist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:04:31pm |
re: #40 Obdicut
Who is ‘partnering’ with Anon, and what form does this partnership take?
Maybe you could make a page about this? Seriously, dude, you’re not even being shy about threadjacking anymore. At all.
Obdicut,
the organizers I talked to and their own OLA website clearly admits the full involvement of Anonymous in their IT and they openly (so to speak) run the OLA chat room.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:04:42pm |
If you watch the Red Eye clip, in fact, you’ll see just how ludicrous Buck’s claim that it was “a joke” really is — because it’s very tense, and not joking at all. Andy Levy and Ann Coulter actually got into a heated argument.
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:04:52pm |
re: #221 Charles
Uh, Buck — she didn’t use her “our blacks are better” joke in that segment. That’s what you claimed.
Just sayin’.
In that edited part of the segment. I saw the original show.
Andy comes in at Half time to comment on what was said during the first half. It was her comments (made earlier in the show) that he is bringing up.
Again, I saw the original show, but not the Hannity version (until now).
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:05:01pm |
re: #236 Simply Sarah
Even better. He throws that up to “defend” her (Somehow) by claiming she had already made the remarks and had them challenged…and then did it again later. But that’s not even the reality of it? So he’s making up shit that actually find a way to make her come off as worse in some bizarre way to prove his point that he totally watched a clip that doesn’t exist? Yeah, I’m not even going to try and work that one out.
There are some types of logic that the human mind simply is not equipped to handle.
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Varek Raith Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:05:26pm |
Hey Buck, how often do you get tangled in your webs???
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:05:42pm |
re: #237 Rightwingconspirator
I think my IT guys may be libertarians. They’ve got that look about ‘em, you know?
/
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:05:44pm |
re: #238 Charles
If you watch the Red Eye clip, in fact, you’ll see just how ludicrous Buck’s claim that it was “a joke” really is — because it’s very tense, and not joking at all. Andy Levy and Ann Coulter actually got into a heated argument.
I hear the “putt putt putt” of goal posts shifting…
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:05:46pm |
do you hear that?
THEY RUN…
THE CHAT ROOM!
ohshitohshitohshitohshit
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:05:55pm |
re: #233 engineer dog
you haven’t “looked in” to anything. you won’t even condescend to get out of your car and talk to actual OWS protesters when you have the chance.
you merely are pleased to think you have discerned the true ‘extremist” origins of a nationwide protest on the basis of
a little web browsingsitting around and hitting F5 every 5 minutes at Liveleak and Kos.
fxd
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:06:05pm |
re: #233 engineer dog
you haven’t “looked in” to anything. you won’t even condescend to get out of your car and talk to actual OWS protesters when you have the chance.
I am going to Occupy (my town) this weekend to have some conversations. I’m going to check my attitude at the door and actually listen and talk to some folks. I’ll report.
Not going to debate them. Just talk to them.
I tried on Monday, but they’re only open on the weekends here.
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makeitstop Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:06:15pm |
re: #241 Varek Raith
Hey Buck, how often do you get tangled in your webs???
The rough ratio is 1/1.
/
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:06:25pm |
re: #238 Charles
If you watch the Red Eye clip, in fact, you’ll see just how ludicrous Buck’s claim that it was “a joke” really is — because it’s very tense, and not joking at all. Andy Levy and Ann Coulter actually got into a heated argument.
Andy Levy ‘fights’ with people on the show all the time. It is part of the shtick. He and the host Greg fight every night at the start of the show.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:06:45pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:07:00pm |
re: #248 Buck
Andy Levy ‘fights’ with people on the show all the time. It is part of the shtick. He and the host Greg fight every night at the start of the show.
Damn, you stole my joke.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:07:11pm |
re: #239 Buck
In that edited part of the segment. I saw the original show.
Andy comes in at Half time to comment on what was said during the first half. It was her comments (made earlier in the show) that he is bringing up.
Again, I saw the original show, but not the Hannity version (until now).
Ok, I believe you.
/rotfl
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:07:26pm |
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:07:30pm |
re: #248 Buck
Gee, that sounds hilarious. Conservative comedy: people having tense fights with each other.
That’ll have ‘em rolling in the aisles.
Again: What do you think of what Coulter said?
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:07:39pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:07:44pm |
next you’ll tell me Anon
RETWEETS WHAT OWS IS SAYING!!!!!
my god, they may actually agree with the movement…
…
…
…
they may actually agree with the movement
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recusancy Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:08:09pm |
re: #246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am going to Occupy (my town) this weekend to have some conversations. I’m going to check my attitude at the door and actually listen and talk to some folks. I’ll report.
Not going to debate them. Just talk to them.
I tried on Monday, but they’re only open on the weekends here.
Good for you!
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:08:17pm |
re: #238 Charles
If you watch the Red Eye clip, in fact, you’ll see just how ludicrous Buck’s claim that it was “a joke” really is — because it’s very tense, and not joking at all. Andy Levy and Ann Coulter actually got into a heated argument.
Yes, a real heated argument with a zombie trying to decide how to kill Levy.
Real…
| 260 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:08:23pm |
re: #256 WindUpBird
You watch “The Middle”? I love that show!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:08:25pm |
re: #248 Buck
so are you telling me you actually sit down and watch Fox News unironically? :D
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leftynyc Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:08:29pm |
re: #237 Rightwingconspirator
Obdicut,
the organizers I talked to and their own OLA website clearly admits the full involvement of Anonymous in their IT and they openly (so to speak) run the OLA chat room.
So to sum up - you’ve talked to the organizers for one city - Los Angeles and feel comfortable with including the dozens of other cities in your critique. Geeez - I’m not even a huge supporter of OWS and think the right is missing the mark on their message by a mile.
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:08:43pm |
re: #248 Buck
Andy Levy ‘fights’ with people on the show all the time. It is part of the shtick. He and the host Greg fight every night at the start of the show.
So the “joke” is that one person says something completely batshit crazy, then the other proceeds to “argue” with them about it.
Truly ground-breaking stuff, I can’t imagine how folks don’t drop dead from laughing too hard.
///
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Political Atheist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:08:45pm |
re: #35 Killgore Trout
10:20 a.m. Tent city to talk about destructive anarchists
Maybe not partnering with Anon would be a good place to start.
Check this out from your link-
11:40 a.m. Occupy Oakland campers consider cleaning up, apologizing for vandalism
The tent city is holding a meeting to decide what to do about smashed windows, graffiti and other vandalism downtown. When the meeting started, there was disagreement about who was responsible, whether it was from outside agitators or from the camp or other sources.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:08:47pm |
re: #230 Charles
Sergey — Pamela Geller responded to your 270 million victims post, without mentioning you or linking, of course.
The fact that both of them failed to challenge my arguments speaks volumes. Warner’s position’s is “give your number”. Nuh-uh. I exposed your meme, back to the blackboard. And not only I exposed the meme, I’ve shown that there was either lying or grossest incompetence involved (or likely both) in cooking that number. There is no response to that either.
As such, I don’t see a need to write a counter-response. My posting stands.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:08:48pm |
re: #257 Varek Raith
Damn, it’s like a Mobius strip cubed!
amobiusstripamobiusstripamobiusstripamobiusstripamobiusstripamobiusstripamobiusstripamobiusstripamobiusstripamobiusstripamobiusstripamobiusstripamobiusstripamobiusstripamobiusstripamobiusstrip
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Gus Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:09:23pm |
Forget the Illuminati.
The world is really controlled by the Soros-ACORN-Planned Parenthood-Democrat Party-Marxist-Radical-Hippie-Anarchist Syndicate™.
//
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Political Atheist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:09:36pm |
re: #48 Killgore Trout
It’s not a secret. Anon helps with online organizing and managing webapges and chatrooms for the protests.
You are certainly correct on this.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:09:47pm |
re: #262 leftynyc
That’s not what RWC was saying, and I think you’re confusing him with Killgore.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:09:49pm |
re: #235 erik_t
Only the very best of Blacks, you see.
Meaning the 17 people left who allow themselves to be used as race amulets, and bats to beat the other 39,999,983 of us e_e
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:10:31pm |
re: #272 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Meaning the 17 people left who allow themselves to be used as race amulets, and bats to beat the other 39,999,983 of us e_e
RACE AMULETS!
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Sionainn Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:10:39pm |
re: #248 Buck
Andy Levy ‘fights’ with people on the show all the time. It is part of the shtick. He and the host Greg fight every night at the start of the show.
It clearly wasn’t a “joke” segment, no matter how much you try to spin it.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:10:58pm |
re: #272 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Meaning the 17 people left who allow themselves to be used as race amulets, and bats to beat the other 39,999,983 of us e_e
Where do the New Zealand ones fall in this spectrum? Or do they not count due to being southern hemisphere foreigners?
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:11:38pm |
re: #274 Sionainn
It clearly wasn’t a “joke” segment, no matter how much you try to spin it.
So you too think the Zombie was real.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:11:41pm |
Anybody curious about Warner’s response (on which Geller relies) can go to [Link: www.politicalislam.com…]
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:11:54pm |
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Varek Raith Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:12:25pm |
re: #277 Buck
You’re incapable of answering Obdicut’s question, aren’t you?
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Gus Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:12:30pm |
re: #279 oaktree
All work and no play make Gus something something…
My hands. My hands! They’re still cold. [sigh]
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:12:38pm |
re: #261 WindUpBird
so are you telling me you actually sit down and watch Fox News unironically? :D
Well yeah. Like I said the other day, this is a group of people who falls for “black baby” rumors and thinks Sharron Angle is a legitimate candidate for senate.
Their biggest bunch of bigots sits on the board of GOProud, so they’ll also tell you how pro-gay they supposedly are.
And how sexist you are if you laughed at Sarah Palin’s accent.
Dumb cons.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:13:03pm |
re: #278 Sergey Romanov
Anybody curious about Warner’s response (on which Geller relies) can go to [Link: www.politicalislam.com…]
They have a link. Send them your page. Overandoverandoverandoverandoverandover…
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:13:09pm |
re: #282 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Well yeah. Like I said the other day, this is a group of people who falls for “black baby” rumors and thinks Sharron Angle is a legitimate candidate for senate.
Their biggest bunch of bigots sits on the board of GOProud, so they’ll also tell you how pro-gay they supposedly are.
And how sexist you are if you laughed at Sarah Palin’s accent.
Dumb cons.
I’ve noticed GOProud is pretty much out of anything resembling the spotlight
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Sionainn Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:13:18pm |
re: #277 Buck
So you too think the Zombie was real.
Oh, I see. You think the fact that there was a zombie in the background made it a “joke” segment. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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Varek Raith Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:13:29pm |
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Jimmah Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:14:26pm |
From what I’ve seen, a lot of these protesters are out there drinking gassy sodas and eating foods that are strongly flatulence promoting. I’m not saying that the extra CO2 and methane that will arise from these gatherings will alter current projections for climate change, but it is a problem and I don’t think anyone in the OWS movement has a serious answer for it.
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leftynyc Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:14:32pm |
re: #271 Obdicut
That’s not what RWC was saying, and I think you’re confusing him with Killgore.
No, I’m not confusing him with the person who trolls every thread with any negative article on OWS. The poster I posted to was saying that the OLA (which I assume is Occupy Los Angeles) is partnered with Anonymous
and because of that he/she felt free to assume the same was true for the dozens of other cities that have their own OWS-offshoots.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:15:12pm |
re: #284 WindUpBird
I’ve noticed GOProud is pretty much out of anything resembling the spotlight
They are now, after Dummy Bruce quit and they got their worthless butts kicked out of CPAC.
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:15:26pm |
re: #285 Sionainn
Oh, I see. You think the fact that there was a zombie in the background made it a “joke” segment. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Come on, it was a “comedy show,” Fox says so! What, did you think Sinéad O’Connor really ripped that picture of the Pope on SNL because she was serious?
///
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:15:38pm |
re: #287 Jimmah
Like the campfire scene from Blazing Saddles?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:15:49pm |
re: #287 Jimmah
From what I’ve seen, a lot of these protesters are out there drinking gassy sodas and eating foods that are strongly flatulence promoting. I’m not saying that the extra CO2 that will arise from these gatherings will alter current projections for climate change, but it is a problem and I don’t think anyone in the OWS movement has a serious answer for it.
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jaunte Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:16:17pm |
Zombies are the ultimate ‘just kidding’ accessory for the modern political hackceleb.
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Kragar Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:16:40pm |
Jacobs: If You Care About The Environment, You’re A Dominionist
Shortly after C. Peter Wagner explained the benefits of Dominionism for society during the Generals International “Reformation Day” webcast, Cindy Jacobs took her own stab at re-framing the term, claiming that Dominionism only means that Christians are to take care of the Earth and thus even environmentalists would be considered Dominionists:
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:16:41pm |
“When you look at me like that, it’s a joke.”
-Krusty the Clown
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:16:50pm |
re: #278 Sergey Romanov
Anybody curious about Warner’s response (on which Geller relies) can go to [Link: www.politicalislam.com…]
…give us your information…
Sounds creepy.
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Gus Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:17:03pm |
re: #278 Sergey Romanov
Anybody curious about Warner’s response (on which Geller relies) can go to [Link: www.politicalislam.com…]
He’s a real genius isn’t he:
So, if the number is not 270 million, then what is a better number? Use critical thought to answer this problem, and don’t tell us that the number is zero. Give us an improvement, not a denial. We have had denial for 1400 years.
I do believe you made no conclusion to any accurate number let alone zero. The argument was only that 270 million is excessive.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:17:03pm |
re: #289 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
They are now, after Dummy Bruce quit and they got their worthless butts kicked out of CPAC.
GOProud: Hey guys! Can we be part of your witch-burning cult? We’re loyal lapdogs, we promise we won’t hold hands!
CPAC: LOOK! WITCHES TO BURN!
GOProud: fuck! Run!
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:17:04pm |
re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Like the campfire scene from Blazing Saddles?
Also works to keep English knights out of the castle.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:18:39pm |
re: #294 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Jacobs: If You Care About The Environment, You’re A Dominionist
Work it through - think about the environmental recovery if the Rapture suddenly removes millions from the planet! And their goal is to get them all.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:18:53pm |
re: #298 WindUpBird
GOProud: Hey guys! Can we be part of your witch-burning cult? We’re loyal lapdogs, we promise we won’t hold hands!
CPAC: LOOK! WITCHES TO BURN!
GOProud: fuck! Run!
WE ARE SO DELUSIONAL, WE EVEN MADE ROY COHN OUR PATRON SAINT!!
BREITBART WILL YOU PLEEEZZZZ THROW US A PARTY!
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:19:00pm |
re: #297 Gus 802
It wasn’t even that that number was excessive, but that the means used to arrive at that number were absolute bullshit. Rather simple logic and a brief grasp of history does show that number is excessive, but the main problem is that they just pulled those figures out of numerous asses and didn’t even wipe them off.
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The Force Ghost of a Flea Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:19:23pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:19:33pm |
re: #299 oaktree
My favorite bit in the entire Monty Python and the Holy Grail? The bit where upstairs they’re singing the “Knights of the Round Table” song… single prisoner chained in basement clapping along.
That slays me… every. damn. time.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:20:57pm |
re: #233 engineer dog
you haven’t “looked in” to anything. you won’t even condescend to get out of your car and talk to actual OWS protesters when you have the chance.
you merely are pleased to think you have discerned the true ‘extremist” origins of a nationwide protest on the basis of a little web browsing
It’s really creepy to keep pestering me to attend these rallies. Leave that kind of thing to the scientologists and Mormons. I don’t want to attend your rally and the more you keep bringing it up the less I want to go.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:21:12pm |
re: #302 Obdicut
And as inimitable Al Franken said, “why would I want anything that came out of Rush Limbaugh’s ass”?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:22:09pm |
re: #288 leftynyc
No, I’m not confusing him with the person who trolls every thread with any negative article on OWS. The poster I posted to was saying that the OLA (which I assume is Occupy Los Angeles) is partnered with Anonymous
and because of that he/she felt free to assume the same was true for the dozens of other cities that have their own OWS-offshoots.
Yes, he said that but I didn’t want to mention it and drag him into the debate against his will.
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:22:43pm |
re: #293 jaunte
Zombies are the ultimate ‘just kidding’ accessory for the modern political hackceleb.
On halloween….
Fine, you take what is said on Red Eye seriously.
I know it is a comedy…. But maybe only conservatives get it. (It is funnier when you think that anyone thinks it is serious)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:22:54pm |
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Gus Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:23:40pm |
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Political Atheist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:23:51pm |
re: #262 leftynyc
So to sum up - you’ve talked to the organizers for one city - Los Angeles and feel comfortable with including the dozens of other cities in your critique. Geeez - I’m not even a huge supporter of OWS and think the right is missing the mark on their message by a mile.
Well wait a sec. I said OLA. Specifically. Anonymous is their IT unless I was misled. As I have posted that is a worrying aspect for me.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:23:51pm |
re: #305 Killgore Trout
It’s really creepy to keep pestering me to attend these rallies. Leave that kind of thing to the scientologists and Mormons. I don’t want to attend your rally and the more you keep bringing it up the less I want to go.
I hope you don’t. It’s a lot more fun laughing at your clutched pearls from your perch at refreshing Drudge.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:23:51pm |
re: #310 Buck
Can you just deal with what Coulter said on Hannity, then? Is there some reason you prefer not to reveal what you think about what she said?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:24:22pm |
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Gus Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:24:27pm |
re: #314 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I hope you don’t. It’s a lot more fun laughing at your clutched pearls from your perch at refreshing Drudge.
You know I have a very visual imagination.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:24:39pm |
re: #310 Buck
I know it is a comedy… But maybe only conservatives get it. (It is funnier when you think that anyone thinks it is serious)
this is a glorious quote, it’s like zen, man
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Sionainn Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:25:22pm |
re: #310 Buck
On halloween…
Fine, you take what is said on Red Eye seriously.
I know it is a comedy… But maybe only conservatives get it. (It is funnier when you think that anyone thinks it is serious)
Wow! Yet another fine example that shows some conservatives have no sense of humor.
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:25:39pm |
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:25:53pm |
re: #310 Buck
On halloween…
Fine, you take what is said on Red Eye seriously.
I know it is a comedy… But maybe only conservatives get it. (It is funnier when you think that anyone thinks it is serious)
Yes, a “comedy show” where the comedy is staging arguments over a batshit crazy opinion that one of the “comedians” involved then repeats without the least bit of humor involved on a later “serious” show.
Geez man, do you warm up before you stretch like that?
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The Force Ghost of a Flea Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:25:53pm |
re: #315 Obdicut
Can you just deal with what Coulter said on Hannity, then? Is there some reason you prefer not to reveal what you think about what she said?
Only conservatives know that there’s really no Hannity: it’s just a long Red Eye skit. Hence why it’s so funny.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:26:05pm |
re: #265 Rightwingconspirator
Check this out from your link-
11:40 a.m. Occupy Oakland campers consider cleaning up, apologizing for vandalism
The tent city is holding a meeting to decide what to do about smashed windows, graffiti and other vandalism downtown. When the meeting started, there was disagreement about who was responsible, whether it was from outside agitators or from the camp or other sources.
I hope the figure something out.
Milani, a camper who did not want to give a last name, spoke against apologizing to businesses. She said it wasn’t just outsiders committing vandalism.
“The person I saw putting toilet paper up, they’re a facilitator at the general assembly. The person spray painting, they’re on the events committee.”
So much for the “outside agitator”” theory.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:26:22pm |
re: #310 Buck
On halloween…
Fine, you take what is said on Red Eye seriously.
I know it is a comedy… But maybe only conservatives get it. (It is funnier when you think that anyone thinks it is serious)
What makes ownership imagery about Black people funny to a conservative?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:26:24pm |
re: #313 Rightwingconspirator
Well wait a sec. I said OLA. Specifically. Anonymous is their IT unless I was misled. As I have posted that is a worrying aspect for me.
I’m more worried about unemployment and our corrupt financial system, but hey whatever works for ya :D
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lawhawk Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:26:35pm |
re: #266 Sergey Romanov
Exactly. That wasn’t a rebuttal of any of the salient points that were raised in the post or comments. And what she couldn’t refute, she simply ignored.
No one ever claimed the figure was zero.
My own post showed that her claims on the slave trade were perhaps 10-15% of the figure she claimed (based on more sound research at that). She was attributing 120 million to the Islamic slave trade, but that figure was likely 12-15 million.
Could other parts of Islamic terror - jihad be higher? Absolutely.
But nowhere was it stated that the figure was zero. That’s just BS.
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Political Atheist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:26:36pm |
re: #309 Killgore Trout
Yes, he said that but I didn’t want to mention it and drag him into the debate against his will.
Thank you. I can only contribute what I saw for myself. If one wants to register at the OLA site and then join the chat room you will see Anonymous announcing their presence running it. That looks like a partnership to me.
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jaunte Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:26:40pm |
re: #310 Buck
Murdoch and his people at Fox have managed to blur the lines and dress up propaganda in the guise of news, commentary and comedy; it’s not surprising they would make use of a Halloween set and pretend the message they were sending was a ‘joke,’ but a lot of people have figured out the game.
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Sionainn Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:27:02pm |
re: #320 wrenchwench
Ah, dog-whistle comedy! Ahahaha!
Aren’t there lots of other conservatives on LGF? Does anyone else think that segment on Red Eye was comedy?
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:27:14pm |
re: #305 Killgore Trout
It’s really creepy to keep pestering me to attend these rallies. Leave that kind of thing to the scientologists and Mormons. I don’t want to attend your rally and the more you keep bringing it up the less I want to go.
then please don’t claim to know anything about them
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:27:40pm |
re: #319 Sionainn
Wow! Yet another fine example that shows conservatives have no sense of humor.
Actually, I literally LOLed at Buck’s quote
something about the sincere ellipsis, and the parentheses, so grave and plaintive
I mean, chills
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:28:20pm |
re: #319 Sionainn
Wow! Yet another fine example that shows conservatives have no sense of humor.
Or, that conservative humor, so-called, is typically at someone else’s expense.
Unless it’s about their own in-group. Then it’s *different* e_e
Stupid hypocrites.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:28:22pm |
Off to #Occupy customer’s house. I ain’t leaving until they buy something from me.
See? I can learn.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:28:31pm |
re: #305 Killgore Trout
It’s really creepy to keep pestering me to attend these rallies. Leave that kind of thing to the scientologists and Mormons. I don’t want to attend your rally and the more you keep bringing it up the less I want to go.
Hot scoop!
HOT SCOOP GUYS
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leftynyc Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:29:09pm |
re: #313 Rightwingconspirator
Well wait a sec. I said OLA. Specifically. Anonymous is their IT unless I was misled. As I have posted that is a worrying aspect for me.
Just curious, did it worry you when some white supremicists were trying to recruit during some tea party rallies? Did you feel it fair to tag the entire tea party movement with what was happening in one place? I ask because it appears you worry easily.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:29:13pm |
re: #327 Rightwingconspirator
Thank you. I can only contribute what I saw for myself. If one wants to register at the OLA site and then join the chat room you will see Anonymous announcing their presence running it. That looks like a partnership to me.
is that kinda like how I’m a member of Mastodon if I’m the admin of their forums
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Political Atheist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:29:15pm |
re: #325 WindUpBird
I’m more worried about unemployment and our corrupt financial system, but hey whatever works for ya :D
Heh. Occupy caused all that?
///
I meant anonymous is the worrying aspect of Occupy IMO. Hence I do not chat in that site. Even though I’m registered there.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:29:24pm |
re: #326 lawhawk
Yep. I even said at the end that I don’t really mind these kinds of things causally tied to religions, in general. I just won’t be the one counting, since it’s hard since there are so many issues involved in the concept of responsibility, esp. responsibility of a religion.
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:30:16pm |
re: #315 Obdicut
Can you just deal with what Coulter said on Hannity, then? Is there some reason you prefer not to reveal what you think about what she said?
I don’t know why you put it that way. No big conspiracy.
I think that over all she has a point. You can extend what she said to slave ownership if you want. I think she was making the bigger, and more obvious point that anyone who is black and a conservative or a member of the GOP is made to feel that they can’t be really black. In fact Cain wrote a book about it.
They Think You’re Stupid: Why Democrats Lost Your Vote and What Republicans Must Do to Keep It
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:32:04pm |
re: #339 Buck
oh man, he wrote a book! Sweet!
I gotta go pick that up!
Does he talk about his 999 plan?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:32:29pm |
re: #339 Buck
I think that over all she has a point. You can extend what she said to slave ownership if you want.
What does that even mean?
I think she was making the bigger, and more obvious point that anyone who is black and a conservative or a member of the GOP is made to feel that they can’t be really black. In fact Cain wrote a book about it.
Having actually been one, and raised by two, the only people who fall for that sniveling bunkum are ignorant white conservatives, eager for any chance to wallow in race guilt.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:32:45pm |
re: #340 WindUpBird
oh man, he wrote a book! Sweet!
I gotta go pick that up!
Does he talk about his 999 plan?
His “campaign” is the promotional tour for the book. Didn’t you get the memo?
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Stanghazi Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:33:13pm |
re: #185 Cannadian Club Akbar
Got a job, finally. Start tomorrow morning. Signed up for college (again). Financial aid in place. Start that in January. So today is better then the last three years. Heh.
Huge congrats CCA!
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:34:00pm |
re: #339 Buck
anyone who is black and a conservative or a member of the GOP is made to feel
cain said that black folk who continue to be democrats are “brainwashed”
how was he making them feel?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:35:19pm |
re: #339 Buck
They Think You’re Stupid: Why Democrats Lost Your Vote and What Republicans Must Do to Keep It
rotfl, this from the man who, like the rest of the cons, calls the 39,999,983 of us who don’t vote with today’s neo-Confederates “brainwashed”.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:37:19pm |
re: #344 engineer dog
cain said that black folk who continue to be democrats are “brainwashed”
how was he making them feel?
Cain is playing purely to white conservative bigots with gags like that. They’re the only ones dumb enough to buy it.
I would say, generally speaking, it’s a major eyeroll-generator, as are the vast majority of the Only 17 Blacks in America Capable of Thinking for Themselves. /
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:37:40pm |
Yeah, truly a grand accomplishment that Coulter speaks of, that the party can treat black voters like absolute shit, then puff out their chests and say that those who vote Republican anyway are “better.”
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Jack Burton Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:38:25pm |
Damn… I missed a “Many names of David Ryder” thread.
/We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese.
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Political Atheist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:38:29pm |
re: #335 leftynyc
Just curious, did it worry you when some white supremicists were trying to recruit during some tea party rallies? Did you feel it fair to tag the entire tea party movement with what was happening in one place? I ask because it appears you worry easily.
When I went to a TP rally with my camera in the very early days of the TP Express Bus Tour I saw none of that. Hmm, in fact I memory holed those images off my blog so as to not support the TP. This was well before we had Pages here. The mean spirited protesters were the counter protesters at that moment and place. Try to understand I’m one that goes to see for myself when possible.
But yes, as Oathkeepers and white separatists/supremacists became more than a fringe, I gave up on the TP. BTW, since you know me so well (///) when I say ‘worry’ I’m not shaking in a corner. I’m using a reasonable term to describe my negative feeling about a visibly negative situation or potential. Which unlike the trembling in a corner thing happens regularly as I evaluate the negatives of a circumstance. I do have a particular dislike of black hat hackers. So yeah the anonymous affiliation with Occupy is perilous for Occupy IMO.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:38:32pm |
re: #339 Buck
I think that over all she has a point. You can extend what she said to slave ownership if you want. I think she was making the bigger, and more obvious point that anyone who is black and a conservative or a member of the GOP is made to feel that they can’t be really black.
By whom? I think Cain is rather obviously a black man, being that he’s black and all.
Who is saying he’s not really black?
The only person I see saying anyone is more or less black is Coulter— and yet that’s the position you say she’s criticizing.
Are you taking the position she was ‘joking’ on Hannity as well, then?
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iossarian Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:38:37pm |
re: #339 Buck
I don’t know why you put it that way. No big conspiracy.
I think that over all she has a point. You can extend what she said to slave ownership if you want. I think she was making the bigger, and more obvious point that anyone who is black and a conservative or a member of the GOP is made to feel that they can’t be really black. In fact Cain wrote a book about it.
They Think You’re Stupid: Why Democrats Lost Your Vote and What Republicans Must Do to Keep It
Buck, right now in Michigan, if I was at a 99% white school, and I walked up to the one black kid, who gets picked on every day, and told him that he’s going to hell because he’s black, I can sue the school if it tries to punish me for that.
If you’re a minority and a Republican, you’re not just stupid, you are clinically brain-dead.
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simoom Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:40:46pm |
re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
FNC’s latest smear.
But, if it’s true? Is it a smear?
I’m not sure I even get what is supposed to be scandalous or even newsworthy in that report, even if you give Fox the benefit of the doubt and take it all at face value.
The charges seem to include:
-Some former employees of ACORN now work at another community organizing outfit. (Uh, so what? Ignoring that all the investigations into ACORN basically cleared it of O’Keefe’s charges, Fox isn’t even claiming that these are any of the folks who were featured in O’Keefe’s videos. I suppose Fox fans are supposed to be outraged that some random former ACORN community organizers were ever allowed employment again?)
-This new community organizing outfit, NYCC, has a bunch of stationary and office supplies that were formally owned by ACORN. (Again, so what? I guess not only former ACORN employees are off-limits but purchasing any of their stationary and supplies is also verboten?)
-NYCC’s staff are being asked to organize and canvass at the OWS protests. (This would be an unusual thing for a local community organizing outfit to do because…?)
-NYCC is extremely paranoid & suspicious of Fox News & RW provocateurs smearing them & causing them trouble. (Gee, I can’t imagine why? :rolleyes:)
Of course what is going on here has nothing to do with actually alleging anything criminal or even disreputable — it’s all about the fact the Fox knows it has groomed a particularly useful (and distasteful) RW euphemism in their ACORN boogeyman. Wasn’t it some recent NY special election where Tea Partiers were waving around signs supporting the GOP candidate all the while being quoted, suspiciously referring to a black staffer working nearby, “‘Careful, he looks like an ACORN.”
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:44:36pm |
re: #350 Obdicut
The only person I see saying anyone is more or less black is Coulter— and yet that’s the position you say she’s criticizing.
That’s the only thing HC is good for, to white conservatives: the Blackness Meter by which they measure all others (as if anyone wants their validation -lol.) It’s a far more extreme version of tokenism than they did even to Condi, Colin, and Booker T Washington 100 years ago.
Lol they even try to do it with MLK. Poor MLK.
When a conservative tells you “you’re one of the good ones”, U R by default persona non-grata.
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leftynyc Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:47:45pm |
re: #349 Rightwingconspirator
I always appreciate consistency. That said, I didn’t like the tea party for reasons that had nothing to do with some fringe elements were up to.
I’ve been down to the OWS here in NYC (not a special trip, was meeting a friend who lives in Battery Park City) and all I saw was a peaceful group of people with some real and well thought out arguments. No violence, no sex, no drugs (the drummers got on my nerves a bit). Nothing like what happened in Oakland. If I had any complaint about them at all it was their being naive - they truly don’t understand that the Citizens United decision is a monstrosity that allows corporations all the rights of people with none of the responsibilities.
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Stanghazi Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:48:15pm |
re: #315 Obdicut
Can you just deal with what Coulter said on Hannity, then? Is there some reason you prefer not to reveal what you think about what she said?
Buck’s racism is only good when it’s HIS racism. He is the most dangerous of neighbors.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:49:41pm |
re: #356 Stanley Sea
Buck’s racism is only good when it’s HIS racism. He is the most dangerous of neighbors.
Lol try being Black and living next to one, or a few. No crystal stair, that, and Buck is one of the nice ones.
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Buck Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:53:10pm |
re: #350 Obdicut
By whom? I think Cain is rather obviously a black man, being that he’s black and all.
Who is saying he’s not really black?
The only person I see saying anyone is more or less black is Coulter— and yet that’s the position you say she’s criticizing.
Are you taking the position she was ‘joking’ on Hannity as well, then?
Is calling someone an OREO really saying that the person is not really Black? Does that hurtful name mean that the person is ‘white’ on the inside?
It it racist to call a black man “Oreo”?
Conservative blacks, including Cain hear that all the time. Including from some upstanding members of this site. Note, not one downding.
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:53:40pm |
re: #323 Killgore Trout
I hope the figure something out.
So much for the “outside agitator”” theory.
re: #305 Killgore Trout
It’s really creepy to keep pestering me to attend these rallies. Leave that kind of thing to the scientologists and Mormons. I don’t want to attend your rally and the more you keep bringing it up the less I want to go.
it’s really creepy that you are so obsessed with OWS and can’t stop commenting about it
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:54:20pm |
re: #7 Obdicut
Their blacks are just so much blacker!
I think it’s really funny that Ann Whitey-White-White Coulter is holding herself up as the judge of blackness.
White conservatives have a very long history of this.
One of the reasons they run around paranoid and angry all day is because they cannot get away with doing it legally, anymore.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:58:51pm |
re: #358 Buck
Is calling someone an OREO really saying that the person is not really Black? Does that hurtful name mean that the person is ‘white’ on the inside?
Look at those crocodile tears.
Cry me some more rivers.
It it racist to call a black man “Oreo”?
Conservative blacks, including Cain hear that all the time. Including from some upstanding members of this site. Note, not one downding.
I don’t you speaking on my behalf. Like just about everything else I’ve seen you post on, you know nothing about us, conservative or otherwise.
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OhNoZombies! Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:58:53pm |
Heh. Herman Cain—the Black conservative.
In the old days, he’d be the one turning in runaway slaves…
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 1:59:15pm |
re: #358 Buck
Is calling someone an OREO really saying that the person is not really Black? Does that hurtful name mean that the person is ‘white’ on the inside?
It it racist to call a black man “Oreo”?
Buck, you fucking idiot, do you notice me, in that thread, saying that the usage of the phrase “Oreo” is really stupid to use, and going on and on about how it’s bad?
Do you seen the eleven updgings for my comment saying that, versus the zero for the comment saying ‘oreo’?
If your contention is that Ludwig said that Cain was an Oreo— which he didn’t, actually, do— then sure, whatever. Somehow, in your mind, Ludwig is equivalent to Coulter?
For fuck’s sake.
Again: Coulter is the one who talks about someone being more or less black. You claim that you don’t like that point of view. So why aren’t you criticizing Coulter? Why are you defending her for saying that?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 2:01:45pm |
re: #358 Buck
Conservative blacks, including Cain hear that all the time.
Lol how the f. would you know what any “black” hears, conservative or otherwise?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 2:05:17pm |
re: #362 OhNoZombies!
Heh. Herman Cain—the Black conservative.
In the old days, he’d be the one turning in runaway slaves…
Well, this is why white conservatives feign to love him so. Until he slips up like he did with n*****head ranch.
A couple more of those, and they will do to him what they do to all their A-list willing tokens.
They despise him as much as they do the rest of us — everyone knows it. Were the incumbent not Black, Herman Cain would still be relegated to the pages of Ebony, Jet and parroting whatever Neil Boortz says on the radio.
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 3, 2011 2:05:24pm |
re: #364 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Lol how the f. would you know what any “black” hears, conservative or otherwise?
If he says “I have black friends,” I’m gonna need to be carted to the ER after I bust something from laughing too hard.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 2:06:19pm |
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 3, 2011 2:08:09pm |
re: #367 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
It’s already pretty funny that he’s soberly lecturing me about the usage of the word oreo after I spent hours writing about how using oreo is stupid.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 2:08:25pm |
re: #367 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
If he says “I have black friends,” I’m gonna need to be carted to the ER after I bust something from laughing too hard.
Lol they all have black friends.
Some of them will still even tell you with a straight face the maid they grew up with “was just like one of the family.” Ask them her name, though…
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 2:10:30pm |
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Political Atheist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:05:40pm |
re: #355 leftynyc
I agree with you. It’s not a bad protest at all like some factless critics would claim. I have paged the heck out of this topic, even risked a little issue fatigue here. I’ll tell you I saw the same at OLA. I go there a few times a week. Every once in a while I bring my 7D DSLR and get an interview or more stills. It’s really peaceful. You can often smell pot in the air, as many Los Angelenos have their marij. medical cards. More eloquent people than most protests. And yes a few fringers.
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Eventual Carrion Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:12:55pm |
re: #310 Buck
On halloween…
Fine, you take what is said on Red Eye seriously.
I know it is a comedy… But maybe only conservatives get it. (It is funnier when you think that anyone thinks it is serious)
I felt the same way when the repubs thought Colbert was really like his TV persona.
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Political Atheist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:16:00pm |
re: #233 engineer dog
There must be some undercurrent here I’m blind to. Obviously Kilgore and I see Occupy very differently. That having been said, he has taken some undeserved heat and downdings IMO. When he pointed out the Anonymous connection he got downdings. Thing is he has that right as far as I can tell. So I’m a little puzzled as to why the downdings at that comment.
Kilgore is a serious skeptic of Occupy. My view of Occupy is much more positive. But I don’t resent his position. I did not lose any respect for him as a poster over it.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:23:50pm |
re: #374 Rightwingconspirator
There must be some undercurrent here I’m blind to. Obviously Kilgore and I see Occupy very differently. That having been said, he has taken some undeserved heat and downdings IMO. When he pointed out the Anonymous connection he got downdings. Thing is he has that right as far as I can tell. So I’m a little puzzled as to why the downdings at that comment.
Kilgore is a serious skeptic of Occupy. My view of Occupy is much more positive. But I don’t resent his position. I did not lose any respect for him as a poster over it.
Me neither. I like KT’s stuff, and even agreed with some of the OWS so-called “criticism” in the very first days. I just find the con take on Occupy to be very lazy, and purposefully ignorant. He’s been at that level for a few weeks, now. At this point I think it’s kind of hilarious, but it’s just a disagreement on one topic.
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Political Atheist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:31:12pm |
re: #375 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Me neither. I like KT’s stuff, and even agreed with some of the OWS so-called “criticism” in the very first days. I just find the con take on Occupy to be very lazy, and purposefully ignorant. He’s been at that level for a few weeks, now. At this point I think it’s kind of hilarious, but it’s just a disagreement on one topic.
The con take on Occupy is pure reflex- ideology, uncaring and in fact highly dismissive of those who stepped up to protest. And dead wrong.
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:31:20pm |
re: #374 Rightwingconspirator
There must be some undercurrent here I’m blind to. Obviously Kilgore and I see Occupy very differently. That having been said, he has taken some undeserved heat and downdings IMO. When he pointed out the Anonymous connection he got downdings. Thing is he has that right as far as I can tell. So I’m a little puzzled as to why the downdings at that comment.
Kilgore is a serious skeptic of Occupy. My view of Occupy is much more positive. But I don’t resent his position. I did not lose any respect for him as a poster over it.
Skeptical:
Showing doubt
i’m seriously annoyed precisely because KT is not showing doubt - he is certain that OWS is an “extremist” movement started by “anarchists and marxists”. he then takes his assertions as proven fact, and bases other statements on them. that alone is enough to get my back up anytime
but he won’t leave it at that. i’ve been trying to ignore him and not get into fights, which i think people here really don’t want, but he continues to intrude this topic into thread after thread. taking all of these comments of his at face value, his position seems to be that he has “determined” that OWS is an “extremist” movement and he feels called upon to threadjack every day to remind us of his Very Important Opinion
my apologies for losing my temper and chewing him out
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Jimmah Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:35:42pm |
re: #374 Rightwingconspirator
There must be some undercurrent here I’m blind to. Obviously Kilgore and I see Occupy very differently. That having been said, he has taken some undeserved heat and downdings IMO. When he pointed out the Anonymous connection he got downdings. Thing is he has that right as far as I can tell. So I’m a little puzzled as to why the downdings at that comment.
Kilgore is a serious skeptic of Occupy. My view of Occupy is much more positive. But I don’t resent his position. I did not lose any respect for him as a poster over it.
Inevitably, relentless spamming earns downdings.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:36:54pm |
re: #374 Rightwingconspirator
There must be some undercurrent here I’m blind to. Obviously Kilgore and I see Occupy very differently. That having been said, he has taken some undeserved heat and downdings IMO. When he pointed out the Anonymous connection he got downdings. Thing is he has that right as far as I can tell. So I’m a little puzzled as to why the downdings at that comment.
Kilgore is a serious skeptic of Occupy. My view of Occupy is much more positive. But I don’t resent his position. I did not lose any respect for him as a poster over it.
The undercurrent is that piling on sometimes happens at LGF. Sometimes it’s good, sometimes not so good, and anything in-between. In this case it’s a mixture. Some people genuinely identify with OWS and ding criticism. Other people got burned on KT’s initial rather unhinged attitude to OWS (which mellowed out a bit, at least publicly; at first it was “I warned you fucking moonbats”, defense of macing, very illustrative misinterpretation of some videos against OWS) and ding kind of reflexively.
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:42:56pm |
downding
actually, i almost never downding anybody. KT pissed me off today and i downding’ed him once. i don’t think i’ve downding’ed anybody else in months…
i wouldn’t want him to think that i dislike him and wouldn’t like to chat with him amiably in the future, far from it. but on the other hand if you comment on a blog you should be prepared to stand up and take criticism for your point of view
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Political Atheist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:45:51pm |
re: #379 Sergey Romanov
The undercurrent is that piling on sometimes happens at LGF. Sometimes it’s good, sometimes not so good, and anything in-between. In this case it’s a mixture. Some people genuinely identify with OWS and ding criticisim. Other people got burned on KT’s initial rather unhinged attitude to OWS (which mellowed out a bit, at least publicly) and ding kind of reflexively.
Yes, that’s likely it. I just don’t lurk enough to be sure. The ideological split here on Occupy is quite apparent.
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Political Atheist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:50:21pm |
re: #380 engineer dog
downding
actually, i almost never downding anybody. KT pissed me off today and i downding’ed him once. i don’t think i’ve downding’ed anybody else in months…
i wouldn’t want him to think that i dislike him and wouldn’t like to chat with him amiably in the future, far from it. but on the other hand if you comment on a blog you should be prepared to stand up and take criticism for your point of view
I don’t recall who, but what surprised me was the downs at that one comment I mentioned. The Anonymous connection one. He was quite factually correct. That is what surprised me. And I agree downs and disagreements are a valuable part of blogging here. Oh and it was classy of you to apologize up thread.
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Origuy Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:53:05pm |
Occupy Oakland is having a problem with the anarchists that show up at every protest in SF, Oakland, or Berkeley. They have their own agendas and don’t want to work with the groups trying to have a peaceful demonstration. Some of the vandalism sounds like the usual gang activity that is part of the background noise in the region.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 3, 2011 4:12:00pm |
re: #381 Rightwingconspirator
Yes, that’s likely it. I just don’t lurk enough to be sure. The ideological split here on Occupy is quite apparent.
I imagine it has a lot to do with generation, and how well people are doing financially
a lot of my friends are out of work or way-underemployed, most are my age or younger than me, have no health care, living paycheck to paycheck, etc, and every one of them supports OWS
a couple I know, have both lost their jobs and probably won’t be able to get heat assistance this winter! Woo-hoo!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 4:33:50pm |
re: #35 Killgore Trout
10:20 a.m. Tent city to talk about destructive anarchists
Maybe not partnering with Anon would be a good place to start.
Doubt that would have made much of a difference. The anarchists are like ticks (Should I say that? I am not attempting to dehumanize the anarchists, merely to illustrate the way they glom on to you and suck the lifeblood of your demonstration or cause, whatever that may be.)
These are not people who wait for an invite, even a subtle one.
OTOH, their arrival, and their causing trouble, was absolutely written in the stars from day one, so pretty much anyone who has ever been active in leftische street-action stuff should have been able to warn the rest that the anarchists were coming.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 4:34:40pm |
re: #44 Buck
You have clearly never seen the show. If a person tells a joke on a comedy show, I think they can safely later say they were only joking.
If what they say is offensive, it’s offensive regardless of whether they were ‘telling a joke’.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 3, 2011 4:35:33pm |
re: #54 Killgore Trout
They interviewed several folks on the news who were with the protesters, and were deeply upset about the damage.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Nov 3, 2011 7:11:29pm |
re: #383 Origuy
Occupy Oakland is having a problem with the anarchists that show up at every protest in SF, Oakland, or Berkeley. They have their own agendas and don’t want to work with the groups trying to have a peaceful demonstration. Some of the vandalism sounds like the usual gang activity that is part of the background noise in the region.
They have been a problem in the Bay Area for at least a decade. We could have anticipated they’d show their idiot asses up, as always.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Nov 3, 2011 10:38:43pm |
re: #166 Obdicut
It’s weird. The main, obviously problem with Occupy is that it’s very disorganized. Yet all the scaaary criticisms of it are how this group or that group is organizing it. If it’s got so much organization, shouldn’t it be a bit more organized?
That’s what you get for being organized by marxists and anarchists.
/
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Buck Fri, Nov 4, 2011 10:45:14am |
re: #363 Obdicut
Buck, you fucking idiot, do you notice me, in that thread, saying that the usage of the phrase “Oreo” is really stupid to use, and going on and on about how it’s bad?
Do you seen the eleven updgings for my comment saying that, versus the zero for the comment saying ‘oreo’?
If your contention is that Ludwig said that Cain was an Oreo— which he didn’t, actually, do— then sure, whatever. Somehow, in your mind, Ludwig is equivalent to Coulter?
For fuck’s sake.
You asked the question: “Who is saying he’s not really black?” You asked it very clearly in your #350.
I answered that calling the man an Oreo was a certain practice that did exactly that. That YOU think it is stupid was not the subject. That it happens, and is happening right now to Cain is the point.
“Who is saying he’s not really black?” People who call him an Oreo, or Uncle tom, OR anyone who expresses that he should not be a Republican as that is not fitting for his race.
All I heard from so many here was that the tea party was racist and hated Obama simply because he is a Black man. Now the same people are telling the pollsters that they would vote for a Black man for President.
The differences are the policies. The differences are the political ideology. Not the colour of his skin.
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