Herman Cain's Campaign Manager's Epic Fail

Herman Cain’s Campaign Manager’s Epic Fail

Desperately lashing out

WingnutsNovember 2011 • Views: 18,480

It’s rank amateur hour in the Herman Cain campaign, as Cigarette Smoking Man Mark Block wrongly insists they’ve ‘confirmed’ that the son of one of Cain’s accusers works for Politico.

Herman Cain campaign manager Mark Block, in an appearance with Sean Hannity on Fox News just now, insisted that a relative of the second woman to publicly accuse the candidate of sexual harassment in the 1990s works at POLITICO.

“Her son works at POLITICO,” Block said of Karen Kraushaar, whose name POLITICO printed earlier today after other media outlets made her identity public.

“I’ve been hearing that all day - you’ve confirmed that now?” Hannity asked.

“We’ve confirmed that he does indeed work at POLITICO and that’s his mother, yes,” said Block.

Block appeared to be referring to former POLITICO reporter Josh Kraushaar, who left for another outlet, National Journal, in 2010.

Josh Kraushaar tweeted earlier in the day, apparently after getting questions, that he’s in fact not related to Karen Kraushaar, and simply has the same last name.

This is pure desperation at work, folks. Block probably even knows that it’s false, but in the right wing universe that doesn’t matter — the claim is all that’s needed to turn this into a wingnut article of faith, impervious to facts.

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90 comments

recusancy Wed, Nov 9, 2011 8:53:14am

Good News: Obama Pledges to Veto Anti-Net Neutrality Legislation

HappyWarrior Wed, Nov 9, 2011 8:53:43am

It's never Herman's fault.

lawhawk Wed, Nov 9, 2011 8:54:12am

Basic fact-checking #fail. Outstanding work there Cain campaign.

Not that it matters to those in the audience who think Cain can do no wrong and ignore the growing pile of evidence suggesting that Cain has much to hide.

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Nov 9, 2011 8:54:23am

Cain's campaign has been complete clownery from the get-go. What will it take for the RWNJ circus to finally drop his act from the schedule?

Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 9, 2011 8:55:33am

This is turning out to be an amazing event: the charges most likely originate from the right, the GOP establishment knows that Cain could cost them the general election.

But all the counterarguments are portraying it as a left-wing media plot to derail a serious black conservative candidate.

And it shows no signs of losing its entertainment value.

I will ask again, is there anyone on this site who would vote for Herman Cain in a general election?

Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Nov 9, 2011 8:55:48am

re: #4 000G

Cain's campaign has been complete clownery from the get-go. What will it take for the RWNJ circus to finally drop his act from the schedule?

Blunt force trauma, perhaps. Other than that, this is the best way they can think of to continue to support their assertion that they're not racist, all the while continuing to be racist behind Cain's back.

Obdicut Wed, Nov 9, 2011 8:57:41am

re: #1 recusancy

Good News: Obama Pledges to Veto Anti-Net Neutrality Legislation

That's awesome.

Iwouldprefernotto Wed, Nov 9, 2011 8:58:29am

re: #1 recusancy

Good News: Obama Pledges to Veto Anti-Net Neutrality Legislation

Yes.

Lidane Wed, Nov 9, 2011 8:59:50am

re: #5 ralphieboy

I will ask again, is there anyone on this site who would vote for Herman Cain in a general election?

I'm sure there are a few folks who are so committed to the GOP that they'll vote for the nominee, even if it's Cain.

Obdicut Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:00:16am

re: #5 ralphieboy

Yeah, I'm continually baffled by the attempts to portray this as a Democratic hit job. That would only make sense if the Democrats thought Cain could win the general election. He obviously can't. If he goes down in flames, it's bad for the Democrats.

The only person the Democrats are worried about is Romney. That's why they're running ads against him.

If this isn't just a result of Politico digging up dirt because it's their business to do so, then it's rather obviously a GOP hit job, probably from Romney or supporters of Romney. Or perhaps Perry, if he really think he can get back into it after overdosing on maple syrup.

bratwurst Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:00:31am

I continue to believe that the relatively high polling numbers Cain has achieved to date are in spite of having Mark Block as his campaign manager.

Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:02:25am

I am sure that a large share of Cain's support is simply the ABM (anybody but Mitt) vote, and since former front-runners Perry and Bachmann have already shown themselves as completely unfit, they have gravitated to him.

OhNoZombies! Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:02:25am

Josh Kraushaar may not be related to Karen, but from now until forever, he may as well call her mama.
RWers are immune to facts.

Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:03:30am

Kraushaar, BTW is German for "curly hair", like a pube...

Lidane Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:04:22am

re: #11 bratwurst

I continue to believe that the relatively high polling numbers Cain has achieved to date are in spite of having Mark Block as his campaign manager.

It's all due to the GOP base really hating Mitt Romney, and the rest of the GOP field being epic fail.

If there was anyone else worth voting for, Cain would be polling about as well as Huntsman right now.

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:04:54am

re: #10 Obdicut

What's funny is that Limbaugh and the rest of the rwnj media have themselves and their Tea Party audiences convinced that the Democrats want Romney to run, because Romney cannot pull off a committed conservative campaign, and only a true conservative could beat Obama.

iceweasel Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:05:18am

All that's necessary is for this to be repeated, as it surely will be, by the wingnutosphere. Facts and truth are irrelevant to them.

Targetpractice Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:06:08am

re: #10 Obdicut

Yeah, I'm continually baffled by the attempts to portray this as a Democratic hit job. That would only make sense if the Democrats thought Cain could win the general election. He obviously can't. If he goes down in flames, it's bad for the Democrats.

The only person the Democrats are worried about is Romney. That's why they're running ads against him.

If this isn't just a result of Politico digging up dirt because it's their business to do so, then it's rather obviously a GOP hit job, probably from Romney or supporters of Romney. Or perhaps Perry, if he really think he can get back into it after overdosing on maple syrup.

That's just it, in the minds of Cain and his supporters, he can win next year and that's why Democrats are so keen on knocking him off now. Remember, the wingnut perception is that Romney is a sure-lose choice, while anybody else has at best a fighting chance, with Cain right now seen as the silver bullet that will put the GOP back in the White House. So, to them, it only makes sense that this is a Democratic plot, because Democrats are the ones with the most to lose if he wins the nomination.

It's that conspiracy theory logic that says all attacks on the theory boil down to some sinister force being the puppetmaster.

iceweasel Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:06:08am

re: #16 000G

What's funny is that Limbaugh and the rest of the rwnj media have themselves and their Tea Party audiences convinced that the Democrats want Romney to run, because Romney cannot pull off a committed conservative campaign, and only a true conservative could beat Obama.

Conservatism can never fail; it can only BE failed.

Vicious Michigan Union Thug Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:06:11am

How can two people with the same crazy last name not be related!1!ty

Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:07:18am

re: #13 OhNoZombies!

Josh Kraushaar may not be related to Karen, but from now until forever, he may as well call her mama.
RWers are immune to facts.

Not just RWers. This same argument is used to prove all sorts of conspiracy theories, most notably 9/11 Twoofy Twoof.

Lidane Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:08:22am

re: #16 000G

What's funny is that Limbaugh and the rest of the rwnj media have themselves and their Tea Party audiences convinced that the Democrats want Romney to run, because Romney cannot pull off a committed conservative campaign, and only a true conservative could beat Obama.

They're just laying the groundwork for Obama's re-election, if it happens.

Should Obama win, they can then turn around and say it's because the GOP wasn't conservative enough, and the cycle of derp starts all over again.

Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:08:23am

re: #16 000G
This is the sort of self-sealing logic that they are into. Nobody wants to admit that the GOP does not want Cain, nor do they wish to ponder for very long why.

Targetpractice Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:09:36am

re: #22 Lidane

They're just laying the groundwork for Obama's re-election, if it happens.

Should Obama win, they can then turn around and say it's because the GOP wasn't conservative enough, and the cycle of derp starts all over again.

"We didn't go full retard enough! We must go so far, that folks will be absolutely astonished by our performance and simply give us the election!"

Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:09:43am

re: #17 iceweasel

All that's necessary is for this to be repeated, as it surely will be, by the wingnutosphere. Facts and truth are irrelevant to them.

A living example of a true echo chamber.

Also apropos because of the echoing sound their heads would make if you knocked on them.

Obdicut Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:10:35am

re: #20 Alouette

"You're both Jewish, you must know each other!"

I think my favorite moment of this sort of thing was when I was in a work group and people were introducing themselves. I said I was Tom. The next guy said "I'm Tom too. No relation". He wasn't joking.

Image: LOL_WUT_PEAR.jpg

OhNoZombies! Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:10:52am

re: #21 thedopefishlives

What do you mean ? 911 was an inside job.
//
I considered not putting sarc tags just to see what would happen.
Heehee.

Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:11:25am

re: #24 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

But remember, they would rather lose than compromise their ideological purity. The danger is truly that the USA might not be worthy of them...

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:12:51am

Charles, found a minor bug with the new ratings window (FF). When I click on the rating number and the animated gif begins to spin, if the connection is slow, I can click on several other ratings. Then when the shadowed modal box comes up and is closed, another box is left in normal view.

lawhawk Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:12:55am

BTW, did anyone else find it odd just how often Cain referred to himself in the 3d person throughout the presser and other engagements? Who does he think he is? Rickey Henderson?

Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:12:57am

re: #27 OhNoZombies!

What do you mean ? 911 was an inside job.
//
I considered not putting sarc tags just to see what would happen.
Heehee.

Everybody here probably would've assumed you were sarcastic. We haven't had a 9/11 Twoofy Twoof troll in a long time, as I recall. I mean, there's only, what, 10 of them left?

OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:12:59am

re: #2 HappyWarrior

It's never Herman's fault.

Conservative personal responsibility.

Targetpractice Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:13:29am

re: #28 ralphieboy

But remember, they would rather lose than compromise their ideological purity. The danger is truly that the USA might not be worthy of them...

True, the sort of insane troll logic that keeps saying Luap Nor's inability to do more than provide a convenient joke for pundits is not because he's a loon, but because Americans simply don't want to accept the "truth" of his beliefs.

Lidane Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:13:49am

re: #24 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

"We didn't go full retard enough! We must go so far, that folks will be absolutely astonished by our performance and simply give us the election!"

/

Youtube Video

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:14:36am

re: #22 Lidane

They're just laying the groundwork for Obama's re-election, if it happens.

Should Obama win, they can then turn around and say it's because the GOP wasn't conservative enough, and the cycle of derp starts all over again.

That's what I'm thinking. They're innoculating themselves from reality.

OhNoZombies! Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:14:44am

re: #31 thedopefishlives

I had to be sure. I assumed not everyone has had their coffee yet.

HappyWarrior Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:14:44am

re: #30 lawhawk

BTW, did anyone else find it odd just how often Cain referred to himself in the 3d person throughout the presser and other engagements? Who does he think he is? Rickey Henderson?

Talking about yourself in the third person is something HappyWarrior finds annoying :). But yeah seriously and these people think Obama's narcissistic.

Lidane Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:15:24am

re: #30 lawhawk

BTW, did anyone else find it odd just how often Cain referred to himself in the 3d person throughout the presser and other engagements? Who does he think he is? Rickey Henderson?

Bob Dole, but with less charm.

OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:15:46am

re: #26 Obdicut

"You're both Jewish, you must know each other!"

Yah but do u guys all say hi to each other on the street like the blacks.

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:15:54am

re: #35 000G

Come to think of it, RWNJ political analysis is a little like cold reading.

Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:15:58am

re: #38 Lidane

Bob Dole, but with less charm.

Hard to imagine such a thing is possible, but, there it is.

OhNoZombies! Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:16:53am

re: #39 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

S'up !?

wrenchwench Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:17:12am

re: #26 Obdicut

"You're both Jewish, you must know each other!"

I think my favorite moment of this sort of thing was when I was in a work group and people were introducing themselves. I said I was Tom. The next guy said "I'm Tom too. No relation". He wasn't joking.

Image: LOL_WUT_PEAR.jpg

I was being interview by a lawyer to see if I would be seated on a jury. He asked if I was related to a man who was interviewed before I was, and he was joking because I'm pasty white and the man before me was very black, but our last names were one letter different, so I corrected the lawyer. He used one of his peremptory challenges to dismiss me. Lawyers don't like it when their jokes fail, and they don't like being corrected.

Too bad. It was a big, interesting case. I should have just laughed.

OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:17:54am

re: #42 OhNoZombies!

S'up !?

[nods in recognition, winks]

Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:18:44am

You're from Glasgow? Do you know a guy named Jimmy?

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:19:03am

re: #44 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

[nods in recognition, winks]

Shalom!

Obdicut Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:19:15am

re: #39 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I tried to explain the difference between Sephardic and Ashkenazi jews to someone once and they said "Bullshit," like it was a conspiracy to pretend we had different cultural strains.

People are weird.

The sad part about Block here is he had a chance to back down, but he didn't take it. He said 'confirmed'. Since he works for Cain, his credibility is Cain's credibility. He's directly tied to him. Cain right now is suffering a crisis of credibility. Shit like this, which might be waved off in other circumstances, makes him look fucking terrible.

Then again, I'm not an expert on how the brain works.

OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:19:48am

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Talking about yourself in the third person is something HappyWarrior finds annoying :). But yeah seriously and these people think Obama's narcissistic.

He doesn't go far enough in absolving them of their racial past, which is the fast track to getting labeled elitist, and arrogant.

Gepetto Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:20:24am

re: #1 recusancy

thats great news. How it ever gained traction on the Left or the Right is a mystery. other than lobbyist influence or authoritarian leanings, I mean.

Targetpractice Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:21:27am

re: #47 Obdicut

I tried to explain the difference between Sephardic and Ashkenazi jews to someone once and they said "Bullshit," like it was a conspiracy to pretend we had different cultural strains.

People are weird.

The sad part about Block here is he had a chance to back down, but he didn't take it. He said 'confirmed'. Since he works for Cain, his credibility is Cain's credibility. He's directly tied to him. Cain right now is suffering a crisis of credibility. Shit like this, which might be waved off in other circumstances, makes him look fucking terrible.

Then again, I'm not an expert on how the brain works.

I'm beginning to wonder if Block has some dirt on Cain or Cain's in debt to him, because that's the only way I can make sense of how he's remained in charge of the campaign despite such horrible leadership so far. It's either that or Cain is simply so stupid that he actually believes Block's actions so far have been good ones, but folks just don't understand that.

Obdicut Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:22:23am

re: #49 Gepetto

I'd say a mix of lobbyists and near-complete technical lack of knowledge on the part of the representatives and senators.

Not too many Al Gore's out there anymore who actually pay attention to what's going on in the technological fields.

makeitstop Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:23:02am

re: #26 Obdicut

"You're both Jewish, you must know each other!"

When I first moved to NYC from Philly, I'd tell people that I was from Pennsylvania and people would say things like 'Oh, my cousin Fred lives in Pennsylvania. Do you know him?'

Happened a few times. Pretty weird, like people thought Pennsylvania was a town instead of a state.

Lidane Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:24:15am

ROFL. I just saw a banner ad for Cain at the top of LGF.

"Bypass the Media Filter! Learn the Truth About Herman Cain."

Obdicut Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:24:16am

re: #50 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I think he was assigned to him by the Koch's, so Cain probably doesn't really have a choice in deciding whether he stays or goes. Cain has no actual ground game, no actual presence in states. He's an internet, media, and astroturfed phenomenon, funded heavily by the Koch's.

Block was the one who convinced Cain to run.

allegro Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:27:02am

re: #50 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm beginning to wonder if Block has some dirt on Cain or Cain's in debt to him, because that's the only way I can make sense of how he's remained in charge of the campaign despite such horrible leadership so far. It's either that or Cain is simply so stupid that he actually believes Block's actions so far have been good ones, but folks just don't understand that.

I get the feeling that these guys have so convinced themselves and each other of their amazing godliness that there's simply no room for reality. It's the classic "Emperor has no clothes." They just keep prancing as the rest of us point and laugh.

It's kinda sad but for the awesome schaudenfreude.

jaunte Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:27:35am

re: #54 Obdicut

Block was the one who convinced Cain to run.

Hypnotism!

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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:29:38am

re: #29 Sergey Romanov

Charles, found a minor bug with the new ratings window (FF). When I click on the rating number and the animated gif begins to spin, if the connection is slow, I can click on several other ratings. Then when the shadowed modal box comes up and is closed, another box is left in normal view.

Good catch - fixed now.

OhNoZombies! Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:32:09am

re: #50 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I think they believe the people who would vote for them are stupid.

Targetpractice Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:33:09am

re: #54 Obdicut

I think he was assigned to him by the Koch's, so Cain probably doesn't really have a choice in deciding whether he stays or goes. Cain has no actual ground game, no actual presence in states. He's an internet, media, and astroturfed phenomenon, funded heavily by the Koch's.

Block was the one who convinced Cain to run.

Almost makes me wonder if there was some agreement made at the beginning.

"Alright, I'll run so as to provide the GOP a black guy they can use to deflect accusations of racism and throw out absolutely stupid ideas and comments that will make the rest of the field look like geniuses by comparison. And in exchange, when I inevitably get kicked out on my ass, you help fund my book tour and speaking gigs."

Except he hasn't gotten kicked out, he's been embraced in the wake of the rest of the field being voted off the island by the TPers.

Obdicut Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:33:36am

Has Cain ever actually backed down from any precipice of stupidity? I know he said he was 'joking' about the fence, but then later said he wasn't backing away from that, so that doesn't really count.

His main strategy seems to be to double down whenever he's making a mistake.

Obdicut Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:37:34am

The pundits are starting to try to shut down Cain's campaign:

Charles Krauthammer Sternly Advises Herman Cain To Stop Accusing People Of Setting Him Up

Fight on, Herman! No one deserves the GOP nod more than you do, and I mean that sincerely.

allegro Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:37:37am

re: #60 Obdicut

Has Cain ever actually backed down from any precipice of stupidity? I know he said he was 'joking' about the fence, but then later said he wasn't backing away from that, so that doesn't really count.

His main strategy seems to be to double down whenever he's making a mistake.

When a guy has been surrounded by Yes Men for so many years, it's been a working technique. It's got be bewildering when it suddenly stops being effective and people who don't know they are supposed to kowtow start saying WTF?

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:39:54am

re: #13 OhNoZombies!

Josh Kraushaar may not be related to Karen, but from now until forever, he may as well call her mama.
RWers are immune to facts.

Well, maybe he always wanted a mother. Maybe she always wanted a son. Maybe these folks are doing them a favor by introducing them to one another.

OhNoZombies! Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:40:20am

re: #60 Obdicut

He knows his audience, I'll give him that.
It's been good marketing against the establishment GOP -- so far. We'll see how much longer it lasts.
Establishment is going to start fighting back, 'cause they know this is deadly.

dragonfire1981 Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:40:33am

BREAKING NEWS!

I have "confirmed" Herman Cain is related to a man who many years ago went crazy and killed his brother.

Stay tuned for details...

Vicious Michigan Union Thug Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:41:32am

re: #65 dragonfire1981

BREAKING NEWS!

I have "confirmed" Herman Cain is related to a man who many years ago went crazy and killed his brother.

Stay tuned for details...

Herman Cain is his brother from another mother.

dragonfire1981 Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:42:31am

On another note, I am not exaggerating when I say Herman Cain is the only Presidential nominee I have been hearing anything about in the past few days, except for maybe a passing mention of the others.

Publicity is publicity folks and, although it's a tough pill to swallow, it actually seems to be HELPING his campaign.

It will be curious to see how long this will stay top level news for, the first primaries are only a couple of months away...

OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:42:36am

re: #59 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Almost makes me wonder if there was some agreement made at the beginning.

"Alright, I'll run so as to provide the GOP a black guy they can use to deflect accusations of racism and throw out absolutely stupid ideas and comments that will make the rest of the field look like geniuses by comparison. And in exchange, when I inevitably get kicked out on my ass, you help fund my book tour and speaking gigs."

"But not before I have tea partiers running around defending me, when it's found out I grope white women!

Suckerzzz!!!"

OhNoZombies! Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:43:00am

re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh !
Well, then it's OK then.
:-)

aagcobb Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:45:19am

re: #47 Obdicut

The sad part about Block here is he had a chance to back down, but he didn't take it. He said 'confirmed'. Since he works for Cain, his credibility is Cain's credibility. He's directly tied to him. Cain right now is suffering a crisis of credibility. Shit like this, which might be waved off in other circumstances, makes him look fucking terrible.

Then again, I'm not an expert on how the brain works.

Not at all. Cain already has no credibility with us, and Block could say Obama is personally handing bundles of cash to random women to claim Cain harassed them and the GOP Base would believe it.

RadicalModerate Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:47:08am

Bill Clinton's "Daily Show" extended interview is now available online, where he talks about the US and world economy for the past 30 years, effect of government and tax policy, and what he thinks needs to be done to start fixing the economic mess we're currently in.

Comedy Central Video

His new "Back to Work" book that he's currently on tour promoting may very well be my next purchase of nonfiction literature.

OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:47:48am

re: #61 Obdicut

The pundits are starting to try to shut down Cain's campaign:

Charles Krauthammer Sternly Advises Herman Cain To Stop Accusing People Of Setting Him Up

Yeah, Charles K has not been happy with this at all.

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:49:39am

Oh Lord. Tom Scharpling recounting his Hurricane Irene woes. Comedy gold.

Jump to 1:10:46

RadicalModerate Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:49:51am

re: #65 dragonfire1981

BREAKING NEWS!

I have "confirmed" Herman Cain is related to a man who many years ago went crazy and killed his brother.

Stay tuned for details...

So, Herman Cain raped (but didn't murder) a girl in 1990?

Kruk Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:49:52am

re: #10 Obdicut The only person the Democrats are worried about is Romney. That's why they're running ads against him.

That's what we want them to think.

"That enemy diversion you've been gnoring was actually their main attack."- Murphy's Laws of Combat.

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:50:15am

re: #39 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yah but do u guys all say hi to each other on the street like the blacks.

This reminded me--when I was in college I was in New York with a couple of friends. We're walking down the street when a very elderly man, dressed very frum, stops on the sidewalk and just STARES at me. I look back at him. Neither of us says anything. Ten, fifteen seconds. Then he starts walking again.

I have never figured this out. My friends insisted it was because I looked Jewish. I don't, except to people who think all dark white people look both Jewish and/or Italian, and one of my friends actually did look distinctly Jewish. They thought she didn't, because all redheads look Irish right?

Also, even if he could pick me out for a Jew, who cares? We were in Brooklyn. There are approximately five hundred thousand Jewish girls in secular clothes who cross this man's path on a daily basis.

No clue. Maybe I looked like someone, and he had to make sure Rocheleh hadn't snuck out in jeans again. Maybe he had dementia. It was an odd enough moment that I have remembered it for nearly twenty years.

wrenchwench Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:50:20am

Mark Block was banned from politics in Wisconsin for three years. Maybe he can get himself barred from politics in the whole USA if he tries hard enough.

makeitstop Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:50:24am

re: #62 allegro

When a guy has been surrounded by Yes Men for so many years, it's been a working technique. It's got be bewildering when it suddenly stops being effective and people who don't know they are supposed to kowtow start saying WTF?

I think that's his whole problem, right there.

This guy has been the Big Cheese in his corporate environment for a long time, and he definitely takes himself very seriously. Remember, he's actually issued a directive to his campaign workers not to speak to him unless he says something to them first.

He's got it in his head that he knows better than everyone, even the political consultants (such as they are) who are supposed to be running his campaign. And his obstinate nature (he is, after all, The Boss) is leading him to react like a CEO, even against the advice of people who know the political world better than he does.

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:52:16am

re: #47 Obdicut

I tried to explain the difference between Sephardic and Ashkenazi jews to someone once and they said "Bullshit," like it was a conspiracy to pretend we had different cultural strains.

Probably thinks all Native Americans are Lakota, and the other tribes were just made up to scam tourists.

Good grief.

Vicious Michigan Union Thug Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:53:16am

re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist

This reminded me--when I was in college I was in New York with a couple of friends. We're walking down the street when a very elderly man, dressed very frum, stops on the sidewalk and just STARES at me. I look back at him. Neither of us says anything. Ten, fifteen seconds. Then he starts walking again.

I have never figured this out. My friends insisted it was because I looked Jewish. I don't, except to people who think all dark white people look both Jewish and/or Italian, and one of my friends actually did look distinctly Jewish. They thought she didn't, because all redheads look Irish right?

Also, even if he could pick me out for a Jew, who cares? We were in Brooklyn. There are approximately five hundred thousand Jewish girls in secular clothes who cross this man's path on a daily basis.

No clue. Maybe I looked like someone, and he had to make sure Rocheleh hadn't snuck out in jeans again. Maybe he had dementia. It was an odd enough moment that I have remembered it for nearly twenty years.

It's possible you reminded him of someone. Maybe he was a Holocaust survivor who reacted to anyone who had a resemblance to a lost loved one.

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:53:59am

re: #52 makeitstop

When I first moved to NYC from Philly, I'd tell people that I was from Pennsylvania and people would say things like 'Oh, my cousin Fred lives in Pennsylvania. Do you know him?'

Happened a few times. Pretty weird, like people thought Pennsylvania was a town instead of a state.

I spent some time in Ireland during college. People were terrible for thinking that California is about the size of county Kerry, and that you must surely know every Hollywood star there is.

William of Orange Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:56:44am

But the sad thing is that the Hannity fanbase is so gullible to believe anything and this will "news" will not die in the short run. The right wing bloggoshere will go apeshit with this news.

Don't expect a correction from Hannity or Fox"news".

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 9, 2011 9:58:36am

re: #80 Alouette

It's possible you reminded him of someone. Maybe he was a Holocaust survivor who reacted to anyone who had a resemblance to a lost loved one.

Thought about that. Made me sad.

Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Nov 9, 2011 10:06:15am

re: #75 Kruk

The only person the Democrats are worried about is Romney. That's why they're running ads against him.

That's what we want them to think.

"That enemy diversion you've been ignoring was actually their main attack."- Murphy's Laws of Combat.

Famously followed by "he who derails all threads" believing Normandy was a diversion and the armor had to be saved to counter the main Allied landing to come at Pas de Calais.

sagehen Wed, Nov 9, 2011 10:06:34am

re: #5 ralphieboy

I will ask again, is there anyone on this site who would vote for Herman Cain in a general election?

Is Buck here today?

Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Nov 9, 2011 10:08:02am

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

Probably thinks all Native Americans are Lakota, and the other tribes were just made up to scam tourists.

Good grief.

Fear of being Sioux?

Obdicut Wed, Nov 9, 2011 10:09:36am

re: #85 sagehen

Is Buck here today?

Yep. He's busy posting insane conspiracy videos based on shit from that insane "Emergency Committee for Israel" group.

Romantic Heretic Wed, Nov 9, 2011 10:16:09am

re: #32 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Conservative personal responsibility.

Like most people they love the credit but hate the blame.

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Nov 9, 2011 10:29:34am

re: #71 RadicalModerate

His recent criticism of Obama about Wall Street was ridiculous. As if people had forgotten what Clinton was responsible for in terms of tearing down welfare and deregulating the banking sector.

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Nov 9, 2011 10:49:21am

re: #82 William of Orange

But the sad thing is that the Hannity fanbase is so gullible to believe anything and this will "news" will not die in the short run. The right wing bloggoshere will go apeshit with this news.

Don't expect a correction from Hannity or Fox"news".

It's red meat for the Birthers.

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