The Torture Never Stops: GOP Debate Edition

The foreign policy debate
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Despite the scintillating personalities of the candidates and the compelling logic of their forward-thinking, innovative policy ideas, I find myself with a puzzling lack of enthusiasm for another performance of the 2012 Republican Clown Car.

Yet, there it is, and here we are.

UPDATE at 11/12/11 5:58:23 pm

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360 comments
1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:21:08pm

Fuckin' Clown Cars? How do they work?

2 Amory Blaine  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:21:09pm

I'll watch today. I punched myself in the face too many times.

3 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:21:17pm

Cain on Pakistan!

4 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:21:45pm

"We don't know" he said.

Is Cain speaking in the third person again?

5 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:21:45pm

Aww Hell. Just invade them all.

6 McSpiff  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:21:50pm

Cain sounds like he's delivering a bad book report.

7 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:21:58pm

"there's a lack of clarity missing" lol

8 Summer Seale  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:22:09pm

Another debate...??

WTF? Don't these assholes have jobs or something? Seriously.

9 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:22:19pm

Mitt's giving Cain that look again. The Romney Smirk.

10 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:22:59pm

Rick Perry! Duh-e!

11 elizajane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:23:04pm

Ooh, sharp questions here. Rick looks panic-stricken. "Quick, how can I change the subject??"

12 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:23:07pm

Shorter GOP candidates: I would do everything President Obama is already doing.

13 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:23:18pm

India?!

14 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:23:30pm

Perry - INDIA!!

15 McSpiff  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:23:35pm

Sorry Israel.

16 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:23:46pm

Drinking game is "9-9-9". Ordinarily that would kill you, but a foreign policy-centric debate should cut it down it only once every other sentence.

17 jaunte  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:23:47pm

Zeerow

18 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:23:52pm

Mitt looks like he has rectal pain.

19 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:23:57pm

re: #14 freetoken

Perry - INDIA!!

India just groaned.

20 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:24:12pm

re: #15 McSpiff

no, pakistan

21 Lidane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:24:22pm

re: #18 freetoken

Mitt looks like he has rectal pain.

It's blockage from being so full of shit.

22 teleskiguy  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:24:33pm

Perry: No Foreign Aid! Doesn't matter what country you are!

I'll bet he doesn't say that about Israel.

23 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:24:42pm

re: #21 Lidane

It's blockage from being so full of shit.

Or having to stand there and listen to it.

24 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:24:51pm

What?

25 RadicalModerate  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:25:02pm

Perry is an isolationist idiot.

26 McSpiff  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:25:03pm

re: #20 Sergey Romanov

no, pakistan

I agree with cutting aid to Pakistan, that's the one thing I've heard that doesn't make my skull hurt.

27 elizajane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:25:24pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

Perry: No Foreign Aid! Doesn't matter what country you are!

I'll bet he doesn't say that about Israel.

No, he'll give them aid as long as they promise to do WHATEVER we want. Bomb Iran, stuff like that.

28 Amory Blaine  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:25:24pm

Set Pakistan adrift.

29 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:25:39pm

re: #26 McSpiff

bachmann disagrees

30 Lidane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:25:42pm

re: #25 RadicalModerate

Perry is an idiot.

FTFY.

31 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:25:42pm

Perry on Pakistan: "Ah don' trust 'em."

32 bratwurst  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:25:53pm

Here is how we know the GOP is beyond help: Newt is considered "smart", Cain is considered "funny".

33 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:26:00pm

Bachmann is actually smarter than Perry! LOL

34 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:26:01pm

150-250 nuclear weapons.

35 Amory Blaine  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:26:16pm

re: #32 bratwurst

Here is how we know the GOP is beyond help: Newt is considered "smart", Cain is considered "funny".

The odd couple

36 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:26:28pm

Bachmann: "Pakistan has A nuclear weapon. ... close to THAT bomb." She thinks they only have one?

37 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:26:28pm

re: #26 McSpiff

re: #28 Amory Blaine

Agree massively.There are better places (Home and Away) to spend that money.

38 teleskiguy  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:26:28pm

re: #27 elizajane

No, he'll give them aid as long as they promise to do WHATEVER we want. Bomb Iran, stuff like that.

Agreed.

39 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:26:29pm

Worldwide nuclear war against Israel?

40 allegro  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:26:40pm

NUKE!

41 Stanghazi  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:26:41pm

GAH

42 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:26:47pm

obama with ows but not with israel
=bachmann is scum

43 RadicalModerate  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:27:05pm

Wow. I never thought I would hear myself saying this, but Michelle Bachmann is the only person who has given a sane answer.

44 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:27:24pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

I saw that is was 100-110, and increasing at a rate of 40-50 a year.

Don't know what year that was though.

45 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:27:33pm

re: #42 Sergey Romanov

obama with ows but not with israel
=bachmann is scum

Yeah. She was the first. I'm someone else will say the same thing.

46 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:27:45pm

The real world is far too complex for these people.

47 teleskiguy  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:27:56pm

Bet you a hundred bucks Bachmann blames Obama in every one of her responses. So far, I'm up a C note for sure!

48 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:28:10pm

There we go. Arab Spring becoming the Anti-Christian Spring.

49 Amory Blaine  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:28:15pm

Pandering Newt

50 wrenchwench  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:28:28pm

Invade Egypt!

51 Lidane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:28:28pm

re: #42 Sergey Romanov

obama with ows but not with israel
=bachmann is scum

That's a Pam Geller talking point, straight up. Every post by the Harpy about OWS leads with a headline about "Obama Endorsed Occupy (Insert City Here)".

52 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:29:06pm

Stop making sense Santorum.

53 andres  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:29:13pm

re: #43 RadicalModerate

Wow. I never thought I would hear myself saying this, but Michelle Bachmann is the only person who has given a sane answer.

I'm seriously scared to hear what was the question.

54 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:29:13pm

frothy makes sense on pakistan
facepalm

55 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:29:13pm

re: #44 ProLifeLiberal

I saw that is was 100-110, and increasing at a rate of 40-50 a year.

Don't know what year that was though.

Those are weapons we are helping to secure. Some people think there is a 'second arsenal'. Most of those people are in India.

56 McSpiff  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:29:13pm

re: #46 freetoken

The real world is far too complex for these people.

"No, Pakistan just needs to be our friend. No ifs ands or buts"

57 allegro  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:29:16pm

Santorum just creeps me the fuck out.

58 Big Joe Ghazi  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:29:53pm

Santorum is right.

59 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:30:11pm

re: #55 Decatur Deb

Considering how warped Pakistan is, I could believe it.

60 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:30:29pm

re: #58 mracb

Santorum is right.

Weird isn't it?

61 elizajane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:30:59pm

Santorum and Bachmann make sense, possibly because neither one actually needs to pander to the base of the base.

62 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:31:01pm

Foreign policy doesn't lend itself well to a sound-bite mentality. It just doesn't.

As Santorum (remarkably) points out, Pakistan is a complex country and thus our dealings with it will be full of compromises.

63 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:31:01pm

Santorum actually did make the most sense there.

64 Stanghazi  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:31:02pm

ok I'm out. Survive this Lizards, I'll check the re-cap later.

65 Big Joe Ghazi  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:31:17pm

re: #60 Gus 802

I was shocked. I'd expect that from Huntsman, but not Santorum.

66 RadicalModerate  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:31:45pm

This is just Bizarroworld.
Bachmann and Santorum are the smart, sane people onstage tonight.

Let's just let that little tidbit sink in.

67 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:31:56pm

re: #63 Gus 802

yep. the end of the world is near

68 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:32:09pm

re: #65 mracb

The guys who seem to be perpetually on the end of the stage are trying a new strategy: make sense.

Maybe that will get them center stage?

69 Amory Blaine  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:32:29pm

These simple remedies are not productive.

70 Summer Seale  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:32:59pm

I know that I may get entirely piled on for saying this but...

...I'm starting to completely see the wisdom of limiting campaign times in certain other democratic countries to even just six months before the election.

I'm so sick of these pointless debates years beforehand by nobodies with nothing else to do but spew the most inane bullshit they can spout out in their blind ignorance simply because they have fanatical backers with lots of money which they deluded into handing it over for a few favors in back room deals.

They're not even debates, and everyone knows it. It's just pompous strutting asses on the stage trying to impress more and more fanatics. There's no thought to it, no challenge. The fact that none of them impress even in these brain dead formats shows just how badly off we are with the mediocrity of our current political leadership.

I wish they'd just shut the fuck up and go home already. I don't even live in America anymore and, frankly, I'm already god damned tired of it.

71 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:33:36pm

Wow... an ad from Numbers USA, the anti-immigrant hate group.

72 RadicalModerate  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:33:58pm

Of course, the people who gave the isolationist nationalist answers got the biggest applause.

73 Amory Blaine  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:34:17pm

re: #70 Summer

If you get your debate card punched 16 times you get to be president.

74 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:34:28pm

re: #70 Summer

Oh, I agree.

But, if our government was a bit more democratic, and policy debates really did happen in public as a matter of law making, then maybe we could get by with only 6 month campaigns.

75 elisabeth  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:34:41pm

re: #70 Summer

Good news for Dems is that the more they open their mouths the more commercials we get. But, yeah, I'm "watching" via twitter and various blogs.

76 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:34:48pm

Numbers USA:

[Link: www.splcenter.org...]

77 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:35:02pm

Newt's still being a dick I see...did I miss anything in the first half hour?

78 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:35:20pm

Reagan!

79 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:35:25pm

John Paul II strategy? wtf

80 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:35:45pm

re: #77 darthstar

Openly admitting that we can't take what he says from day to day as anything he believes in.

81 Kronocide  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:35:52pm

Why so many freakin 'debates?'

Seems to be new territory.

82 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:36:01pm

More aircraft carriers!

83 bratwurst  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:36:14pm

Newt name-checking John Paul II and Thatcher in addition to Reagan. He does kinda resemble all 3 rolled in to one now that I think of it.

84 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:36:31pm

I am not going to watch this. I watched most of the Texas Tech/Oklahoma State football game today and that is quite enough punishment for one weekend.

Pic from today's game.

The Red Raiders are the Rick Perry of college football, having apparently forgotten why they bothered to show up today. They managed to fumble, bungle, and snooze their way to the worst loss in the school's history, losing to OSU 66-6 in Lubbock. This is both the highest score ever against Tech, eclipsing the 65 points scored by OU a few years ago, and the largest margin of defeat (the old record was 53 in a 56-3 loss to Nebraska in the 90s).

The worst part is that the game wasn't even as close as the lop-sided score would suggest. OSU led 35-0 just two minutes into the second quarter, and 49-0 at the half.

85 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:36:39pm

I'm a little shocked that CBS actually sold ad time during the GOP debate to an outright hate group.

86 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:36:48pm

Oh boy.

87 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:37:05pm

cain is painful

88 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:37:29pm

re: #85 Charles

Their money is green.

89 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:37:34pm

The best leadership models are built from Legos.

90 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:37:42pm

re: #83 bratwurst

Rome is having power surge right now, and they don't know why.

91 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:38:00pm

re: #85 Charles

I'm a little shocked that CBS actually sold ad time during the GOP debate to an outright hate group.

Liberal Media bias. (Or something)

92 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:38:48pm

hahaha

93 Big Joe Ghazi  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:38:58pm

ha ha

94 RadicalModerate  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:39:16pm

re: #71 Charles

Hmm. We didn't get that ad here in Texas. We got a ad from the California Dairy Council.

95 teleskiguy  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:39:35pm

ZING! Way to self-deprecate Perry!

96 sagehen  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:39:46pm

re: #79 negativ

John Paul II strategy? wtf

He supported Solidarity... he said it was a good thing for people to be in unions, to occupy Warsaw, to march in the streets....

97 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:39:46pm

Nuclear weapons, Rick, not just "energy".

98 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:39:56pm

There are plenty of agencies who can overlook our nuclear weapons...like the Department of Education and the Department of Commerce...unless we kill them too.

99 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:40:05pm

When they deploy to combat he is not their Commander in Chief.

100 allegro  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:40:06pm

I can see Mexico from my bathroom window!

101 Kronocide  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:40:22pm

so many say God told them to run.

Somebody is lying.... or they're all delusional (except for one).... or God is screwing with them.

102 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:40:35pm

re: #94 RadicalModerate

Hmm. We didn't get that ad here in Texas. We got a ad from the California Dairy Council.

That cow was a little forward, I thought.

103 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:40:56pm

uh oh torture
let's see who is scum

104 RadicalModerate  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:41:04pm

Yeah Rick. We see the kind of people who you surround yourself with. Creationists, hate group members, and religious fanatics.

105 sagehen  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:41:17pm

re: #85 Charles

I'm a little shocked that CBS actually sold ad time during the GOP debate to an outright hate group.

Would this be the same CBS that refused to sell airtime to the Unitarians, who wanted to advertise that they're an inclusive church that would welcome same-sex couples?

106 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:41:19pm

dithering

107 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:41:29pm

re: #71 Charles

Wow... an ad from Numbers USA, the anti-immigrant hate group.

I saw that. A nice, multicultural hate message, too. Stupid fuckers.

108 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:41:29pm

re: #101 BigPapa

so many say God told them to run.

Somebody is lying... or they're all delusional (except for one)... or God is screwing with them.

Monotheist Pig!!!

109 recusancy  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:41:36pm

What's with the Fox moderator guy on a CBS debate?

110 teleskiguy  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:42:07pm

Torture question. Good one.

Cain gives a "have your cake and eat it too" answer.

111 jaunte  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:42:21pm

"I will ask my experts what is and is not torture."

112 bratwurst  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:42:21pm

Cain is as consistent on torture as he is on abortion.

113 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:42:21pm

cain is pro-torture scum
bachmann as well

114 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:42:23pm

Crowd applauds for torture. No surprise.

115 RadicalModerate  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:42:37pm

And Bachmann goes back to the crazy. "The ACLU is running the CIA"

116 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:42:49pm

ACLCIA

117 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:43:00pm

Obama is allowing the ACLU to run the CIA...... yeah, the ACLU LURVE those drone strike summary executions

118 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:43:12pm

kudos to paul

119 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:43:24pm

Bach-in-Black! - take off the virginal white, and she's ready to waterboard while straddling the combatant wearing nothing but a garter belt and spiked heels.

120 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:43:43pm

re: #115 RadicalModerate

And Bachmann goes back to the crazy. "The ACLU is running the CIA"

the comedy has entered the wormhole

121 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:43:43pm

When we win we'll eat Ron Paul last.

122 Kronocide  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:43:47pm

re: #108 Decatur Deb

Monotheist Pig!!!

Oink/Drink!

123 teleskiguy  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:44:00pm

Gawd Bachmann is a fuckin' loon!

So far, every answer Bachmann has given she has blamed Obama for something. I'm gonna be $100 richer soon!

124 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:44:00pm

Oh brother. What a bunch of fakers.

125 bratwurst  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:44:03pm

Ron Paul having one of his "broken clock" moments on the topic of water boarding.

126 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:44:13pm

Evening Lizardim. What's the drinking game?

127 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:44:29pm

Hot magenta tie. Nice touch.

128 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:44:49pm

re: #126 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim. What's the drinking game?

whenever you turn on the debate, get drunk


that's the game

129 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:44:49pm

YAY to huntsman

130 McSpiff  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:45:02pm

That was a nice response. Credit where its due.

131 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:45:14pm

Ooh...we have a Bachmann fan in the house...Don't like the dominatrix image I drew, Max?

132 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:45:16pm

Huntsman, what the hell are you doing with those people?

133 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:45:27pm

Ron Paul is right on torture.

134 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:45:34pm

re: #129 Sergey Romanov

YAY to huntsman

The least crazy out of the bunch.

Unfortunately, that's an extremely low bar to clear.

135 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:45:45pm

Romney's an idiot.

136 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:46:08pm

Huntsman is going to be right in this case too.

137 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:46:14pm

EXCEPTIONAL!!!

138 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:46:21pm

American Exceptionalism - DRINK

139 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:46:21pm

re: #133 Gus 802

Ron Paul is right on torture.

one of the few things on which he's always been right

140 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:46:21pm

MANIFEST DESTINY

141 McSpiff  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:46:23pm

As a non-American, Romney is real creepy.

142 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:46:28pm

That calls for some chocolate.

143 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:46:43pm

I've never seen such a mixed crowd of exclusively white people before. It's like they arranged the audience to match the candidates...no two fans of the same candidate together.

144 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:46:44pm

shorter romney: AMERICA FUCK YEAH

145 Max  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:46:49pm

re: #131 darthstar

Ooh...we have a Bachmann fan in the house...Don't like the dominatrix image I drew, Max?

I would never vote for Bachmann. Quite frankly, I thought your comment was repulsive and uncalled for.

146 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:46:56pm

Don't make the moderator pull this debate over, because he will.

147 recusancy  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:47:07pm

re: #141 McSpiff

As a non-American, Romney is real creepy.

I agree. He's the creepiest and sleeziest up there in my opinion. Newt may be tied with him though.

148 McSpiff  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:47:28pm

Newt doesn't actually know what the rule of law means. Greeeeaaaaat

149 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:47:39pm

re: #148 McSpiff

Newt doesn't actually know what the rule of law means. Greeeaaat

And this surprises you?

150 jaunte  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:47:47pm

"Everything I do will make America stronger."
Romney has made the largest unfulfillable promise so far.

151 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:47:56pm

Fuck you Romney.

152 Lidane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:48:30pm

re: #150 jaunte

"Everything I do will make America stronger."
Romney has made the largest unfulfillable promise so far.

Give him a couple of days. I'm sure he'll walk it back or flip-flop on it.

153 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:48:43pm

Hiya Max! LTNS! How's the butthurt doing?

154 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:48:43pm

re: #111 jaunte

"I will ask my experts what is and is not torture."

He could ask John McCain. McCain is just an over-the-hill RINO fossil, though; what would he know about it?

155 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:48:46pm

I miss anything exciting yet?

156 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:48:56pm

re: #145 Max D. Reinhardt

I would never vote for Bachmann. Quite frankly, I thought your comment was repulsive and uncalled for.

Well, you didn't see her eyes light up when she talked about waterboarding.

157 teleskiguy  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:49:10pm

Reagan. DRINK!

158 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:49:14pm

nice ash heap huh
putin is nothing i guess
ah perry

159 Honorary Consul General  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:49:29pm

Is it possible my keyboard and everything else on my computer took a shit because of my FF browser? This is weird.
Evening Honcos!!

160 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:49:34pm

re: #155 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I miss anything exciting yet?

Standard-issue GOP Mad Libs. Nothing too unusual.

161 allegro  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:49:48pm

Oh Perry.... China doesn't have virtue? WTF? Cyberwar?

162 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:49:48pm

"Gentlemen do not read each other's mail."

163 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:49:59pm

Hey Perry...don't discount cyber-security...we're making good money off the US government from that right now.

164 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:50:11pm

Republican Foreign Policy: KILL! KILL! KILL!

165 jaunte  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:50:14pm

Perry declares war on Anonymous.

166 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:50:28pm

re: #155 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I miss anything exciting yet?

It's the GOP debate. Bunch of empty promises and other assorted BS. I think the most exciting thing that's happened is my bullshit detector melting down.

167 Lidane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:50:41pm

re: #132 Decatur Deb

Huntsman, what the hell are you doing with those people?

He's either laying the groundwork for a 2016 run or he didn't get the memo that the GOP is batshit insane these days.

I swear he should just give up and run as a Blue Dog in four years. He might have more of a chance then.

168 Honorary Consul General  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:51:00pm

Guess I stepped in at the wrong time. I don't do debate threads. See ya'll soon.:)

169 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:51:02pm

re: #164 Gus 802

nonono
torture then kill

170 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:51:06pm

re: #166 thedopefishlives

It's the GOP debate. Bunch of empty promises and other assorted BS. I think the most exciting thing that's happened is my bullshit detector melting down.

They mentioned the "Apology Tour" yet?

171 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:51:06pm

Cyber command!

172 jaunte  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:51:19pm

Otherwise, Walmart won't have open trade with China.

173 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:51:40pm

re: #171 Gus 802

Cyber command!

wait what

174 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:51:56pm

And you know it will only be used "against the enemy!"

LOL

175 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:52:09pm

huntsman on china gonna be good

176 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:52:09pm

re: #172 jaunte

Romney wants to double the prices in Walmart.

177 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:52:23pm

re: #173 WindUpBird

wait what

Perry was babbling.

178 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:52:48pm

Well, I'm against waterboarding and I do believe it's torture, but I have no problem with Obama killing Anwar al-Awlaki.

179 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:52:57pm

re: #175 Sergey Romanov

How hostile to China is he?

180 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:53:11pm

Gonna be a field day for fact checking with these idiots.

181 teleskiguy  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:53:28pm

re: #164 Gus 802

Republican Foreign Policy: KILL! KILL! KILL!

That reminds me of The Onion's coverage of the 1980 presidential campaign.
Jimmy Carter: Let's Talk Better Mileage
Ronald Reagan: Kill The Bastards
Which Message Will Resonate With Voters?

182 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:53:28pm

re: #178 Charles

same here
combatant

183 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:53:28pm

re: #177 Gus 802

Perry was babbling.

WHEN I AM PRESIDENT I WILL GO TO THE TECHNODROME AND SIT IN A BUBBLE FILLED WITH COMPUTAR SCREENZ AND BLOW UP THE BAD GUYZ

184 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:53:29pm

re: #178 Charles

Well, I'm against waterboarding and I do believe it's torture, but I have no problem with Obama killing Anwar al-Awlaki.

WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?!?!?

185 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:53:40pm

re: #180 Gus 802

Gonna be a field day for fact checking with these idiots.

Like that's anything new or different.

186 allegro  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:53:40pm

Huntsman really does make sense and when he really starts to make sense the moderator says SHUT UP! SHUT. UP!

187 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:53:51pm

The "Republican Commander in Chief Debate" - I wonder how long Rick Perry thought he went to the wrong debate, but figured since everyone else was there it was okay.

188 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:54:00pm

re: #176 freetoken

Romney wants to double the prices in Walmart.

More like reduce domestic wages to Chinese levels.

189 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:54:29pm

Huntsman's right. Well, the best of the lot here.

190 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:54:41pm

re: #186 allegro

Huntsman really does make sense and when he really starts to make sense the moderator says SHUT UP! SHUT. UP!

He's throwing off the grading curve.

191 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:54:49pm

Romney's a war monger.

192 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:55:22pm

re: #191 Gus 802

Romney's a war monger.

Give him 24 hours.

193 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:55:35pm

i know huntsman is not that good on agw
but it wouldn't be a shame if he were elected (0 probability)

194 RadicalModerate  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:55:35pm

This COPD commercial is strangely appropriate.
An elderly woman with an elephant sitting on her chest, pinning her down.

Just a little bit of Republican symbolism?

195 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:55:41pm

Read the 'Numbers USA" bit during the break. Wasn't a KKK ad available?

196 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:55:50pm

re: #180 Gus 802

Gonna be a field day for fact checking with these idiots.

HOLY CHRIST, IN ALL THIS BULLSHIT, I FOUND A FEW ACTUAL FACTS

197 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:55:50pm

re: #192 darthstar

Give him 24 hours.

Why so long?

//

198 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:55:50pm

re: #191 Gus 802

sick fuck demagogue

199 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:56:19pm

re: #191 Gus 802

he knows he's sorta fucked on domestic policy because he's not insane, so he has to be ultra-masculine white patriarch who will go get the bad guys

200 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:56:45pm

re: #191 Gus 802

Romney's a war monger.

It's OK, he doesn't use his own product.

201 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:56:46pm

re: #85 Charles

I'm a little shocked that CBS actually sold ad time during the GOP debate to an outright hate group.

They're whores to the dollar. Probably figure enough knuckle-scrappers will be watching who have money to burn.

202 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:56:55pm

re: #198 Sergey Romanov

sick fuck demagogue

Blech. He's disgusting. I haven't heard him for a while. He's a creep.
The rest of them are bunch of idiots. Gingrich is a prick. The only one there that's close to being normal there is Huntsman.

203 RadicalModerate  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:57:45pm

Israel gets zero foreign aid unless they cowtow to the Perry administration.

204 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:57:52pm

Wham! No. Wait. Uh. Wait. Israel at zero!

205 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:58:05pm

Wow... an hour down already... and I've only gone through 2 pieces of chocolate. Turns out this is a more laid back "debate".

206 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:58:06pm

lol

207 Jaerik  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:58:08pm

It's funny, because "The Torture Never Stops" is also pretty much the only foreign policy they have.

208 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:58:09pm

heh
somebody should think up a good question and submit it

209 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:58:12pm

OMG

210 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:58:17pm

Oh...the debate's two hours! I thought it was odd they only had it for one hour on the tv guide...and local news just took over. Fuckers.

211 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:58:23pm

He sounds like GWB!

212 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:58:27pm

re: #204 Gus 802

Wham! No. Wait. Uh. Wait. Israel at zero!

For a millisecond

213 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:58:54pm

I think I just lost 10 IQ points.

214 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:59:04pm

re: #210 darthstar

1 and a half
it's only full at cbs and nj sites

215 teleskiguy  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:59:16pm

Well, my CBS station has saved me from watching the rest of the debate. I am grateful.

216 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:59:16pm

Oh gross.

217 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:59:16pm

re: #213 Gus 802

I think I just lost 10 IQ points.

Check behind the couch.

218 jaunte  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:59:16pm

@NoahPollak:
Right. Rick Perry wants to cut aid to Israel. Take another bong hit.”

219 Summer Seale  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:59:17pm

I'd give anything to be a moderator, just to begin by asking them:

"Don't you have anything better to do than open your holier-than-thou pie holes and spew out the contents of the last debate all over the floor on national television? Are you going to actually tell us anything new, or are you still going to sound just as idiotic as the last time we were all laughing at you?"

And then maybe I'd finish a la Woody Allen:

"Gentlemen, I don't recognize any of you as having the intellectual capacity to run our country. And, furthermore, you can all go fuck yourselves."

220 RadicalModerate  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:59:27pm

Second hour of the debate is on the CBSNews website.

221 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:59:27pm

WTF? They came back from break to give one single follow up question to Sir Forgets A Lot then they end the show?

222 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:59:31pm

DeMint and Graham.

Vomit!

223 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 5:59:45pm

Streaming video here if you can't tear yourself away from the 2nd hour:

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

224 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:00:51pm

Oh good, it's back.

225 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:00:52pm

re: #217 wozzablog

Check behind the couch.

The back of my head just fell off.

//

226 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:01:04pm

re: #218 jaunte

not fair
perry did say i is a special case that will get lotsa help

227 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:01:24pm

g'night folks.

228 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:01:31pm

re: #224 Decatur Deb

Oh good, it's back.

That's a good thing?

229 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:01:41pm

re: #221 goddamnedfrank

WTF? They came back from break to give one single follow up question to Sir Forgets A Lot then they end the show?

Oh, okay, got it. Yay for pointless breaks, here we go hour two, bring on the pain.

230 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:01:53pm

Okay...where's the fuckin' live-stream? Local News just don't get it.

231 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:02:15pm
232 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:02:25pm

I cannot go on this journey with you, my friends, but know that I salute you in your endeavor.

233 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:02:35pm

I give up. I'm having buffer issues here.

234 Kronocide  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:02:37pm

Navy ship named for civil rights leader Evers

Holy Crap, that's cool. Why is there no USS Martin Luther King? Not to be cynical, but it's a cargo ship. But damn if that isn't cool.

235 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:02:55pm

I already know their answers anyway so feck it.

236 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:03:10pm

re: #233 Gus 802

i get all and i'm in russia
nya nya nya
/

237 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:03:28pm

re: #236 Sergey Romanov

i get all and i'm in russia
nya nya nya
/

Yeah, yeah, we know. COMMUNIST./

238 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:03:34pm

Damn--she's more coherent when she wears black. How does that work?

239 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:03:55pm

re: #236 Sergey Romanov

i get all and i'm in russia
nya nya nya
/

That's because you are one of the bourgeoisie and I am just a mere proletariat.

240 McSpiff  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:03:56pm

re: #236 Sergey Romanov

i get all and i'm in russia
nya nya nya
/

Working perfect in Canada on my boxeebox. But damn these guys are morons. Cain especially.

241 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:03:57pm

re: #231 freetoken

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

Thanks...got it...Local news is covering Penn State's football game. We're fucking California! Sheesh.

242 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:04:04pm

cain accuses obama of arab spring

243 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:04:05pm

Ummm... Herman... the previous dictators were the ones worried about "control".

244 Kronocide  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:04:44pm

Cai-DRINK!

245 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:05:17pm

re: #244 BigPapa

Cai-DRINK!

I wouldn't drink anywhere near Herman Cain. Especially if I were a woman.

246 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:05:19pm

Newt hearts Mubarak.

247 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:05:19pm

re: #239 Gus 802

close your mouth filthy worker drone and bring me more champagne

////

248 jaunte  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:05:22pm

Newt loves 'stability'.

249 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:06:01pm

OK, I've had all I can stand, and I can't stands no more.

/popeyere: #246 Decatur Deb

Newt hearts Mubarak.

Their respective wig stands are named 'Ebony' and 'Ivory'.

250 theheat  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:06:02pm

Between the bullshit coming from the Right and bad CGI on SyFy, I'd rather watch "Rage of the Yeti." It's easier to believe in yetis than anyone in the GOP debates.

251 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:06:05pm

"hundreds of millions" lol
up there with 270 million of islam

252 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:06:10pm

So the GOP candidates now love them some dictators, so long as they're not sitting on oil?

253 jaunte  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:07:29pm

Nobody likes a hegemon, right?

254 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:08:08pm

re: #253 jaunte

Nobody likes a hegemon, right?

I CHOOSE YOU, HEGEMON

255 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:08:08pm

re: #252 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

So the GOP candidates now love them some dictators, so long as they're not sitting on oil?

See, it's different when I say it, because I'm always right.

256 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:08:15pm

graham is a fuck

257 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:08:41pm

re: #253 jaunte

Nobody likes a hegemon, right?

Is that like a pokemon?

258 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:09:28pm

Herman Cain is strongly in favor of keeping Gitmo open so we can torture the shit out of those terrorists.

259 RadicalModerate  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:09:30pm

Cain: "It's okay to torture terrorists because they're terrorists"

260 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:09:39pm

bloodthirsty lawless fucks
i would make exception in my anti-torture stance for them
no not really
not even for them

261 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:09:52pm

Well, you can't torture if you don't have a damn torture chamber.

262 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:10:04pm

Is the theme of tonight's debate really torture? Whose penis would Jesus fill with glass rods?

263 Kronocide  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:10:28pm

re: #259 RadicalModerate

Cain: "It's okay to torture terrorists because they're terrorists" they hate our freedoms

264 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:11:14pm

re: #258 Charles

Herman Cain is strongly in favor of keeping Gitmo open so we can torture the shit out of those terrorists.

Charles, didn't you get the memo? Terrorists aren't human, they don't need to be afforded basic human rights. Why, we'd be within our rights to just shoot them outright, but we're being NICE to them by letting them live in torment, don't you see?

/Yeah, that actually hurt to type out, I'm going to need a palette cleanser

265 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:11:14pm

re: #260 Sergey Romanov

bloodthirsty lawless fucks
i would make exception in my anti-torture stance for them
no not really
not even for them

Hee. It's not really torture until you make them admit it's torture.

266 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:11:19pm

Is Paul saying that Obamacare will lead to torture of Americans?

267 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:11:27pm

re: #263 BigPapa

I only hate the freedoms of people who advocate torture.

268 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:11:27pm

well paul may be correct about awlaki's son
though not right that courts should be invoved in war

269 Kronocide  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:11:30pm

re: #262 darthstar

Is the theme of tonight's debate really torture? Whose penis would Jesus fill with glass rods?

If I drink more will that make sense? LOL

270 Lidane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:12:00pm

re: #250 theheat

Between the bullshit coming from the Right and bad CGI on SyFy, I'd rather watch "Rage of the Yeti." It's easier to believe in yetis than anyone in the GOP debates.

Heh. I'm not watching it either. Instead, I'm watching my boyfriend play through Skyrim and following the debate on here.

I save more IQ points that way. ;)

271 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:12:14pm

re: #256 Sergey Romanov

graham is a fuck

Graham wrote the book of slime.

272 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:12:20pm

perry is a waste of skin

273 jaunte  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:12:28pm

Mitt Romney tweets:
100 Retweets
Overheard conversation at G-20 another sign of Obama's low regard for Israel and its leader...I will stand by our allies, not tear them down

274 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:12:34pm

Perry talking BS. Paul is an easy target.

275 sagehen  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:12:41pm

re: #234 BigPapa

Navy ship named for civil rights leader Evers

Holy Crap, that's cool. Why is there no USS Martin Luther King? Not to be cynical, but it's a cargo ship. But damn if that isn't cool.

Because nonviolent civil disobedience? Because his method was for his followers to just take it and let everyone see and be ashamed at what's being dished out?

276 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:12:48pm

Poor Bachmann...that's the second time she's gotten the "women should be seen and not heard" treatment by Major Garrett.

277 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:13:08pm

Blood thirsty.

278 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:13:44pm

Connection is wonky.

279 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:13:55pm

Bachmann doesn't realize it, but she just defended Obama.

280 sagehen  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:14:00pm

re: #242 Sergey Romanov

cain accuses obama of arab spring

Which if he did it... shouldn't we respond with "Well Done Sir!!"

281 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:14:06pm

re: #270 Lidane

Heh. I'm not watching it either. Instead, I'm watching my boyfriend play through Skyrim and following the debate on here.

I save more IQ points that way. ;)

I'm watching somebody play it online. Pretty good game, considering getting it after Thanksgiving.

282 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:14:23pm

Hey? They ever find those Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq?

//

283 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:14:33pm

no paul
it's not different when you assassinate a citizen or a non-citizen
americans aren't some magical unicorns

284 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:14:36pm

Oh boy.

285 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:14:37pm

re: #273 jaunte

No, Netanyahu is a slime ball, and Sarkozy's tact was not in the room.

286 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:14:46pm

re: #276 darthstar

Poor Bachmann...that's the second time she's gotten the "women should be seen and not heard" treatment by Major Garrett.

Well, he *does* have a name like a character on a 1970s cop show, so there's that.

287 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:15:15pm

re: #276 darthstar

Poor Bachmann...that's the second time she's gotten the "women should be seen and not heard" treatment by Major Garrett.

I don't think she should be heard OR seen./

288 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:15:20pm

re: #282 Gus 802
cain should promise to find them

289 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:15:42pm

Um... Mitt... PBS isn't exactly a big budge item.

290 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:15:58pm

More pablum from Romney.

291 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:16:10pm

Because the states will do Medicaid for free.

292 funky chicken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:16:10pm

re: #80 freetoken

Openly admitting that we can't take what he says from day to day as anything he believes in.

Newt? Mitt? Cain?

293 jaunte  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:16:21pm

re: #285 ProLifeLiberal

Mitt is quite a panderer.

294 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:16:56pm

re: #31 Charles

Perry on Pakistan: "Ah don' trust 'em."

Unfortunately, I'd have to agree with Perry on that assessment, because I don't trust Pakistan either, with the whole Al Qaeda/OBL/ISI issue. Unlike Perry, I do realize that we have to deal with them for the time being, because it's the devil we know.

Now, if everyone will excuse me, I have to vomit...

///sorta

295 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:17:17pm

re: #292 funky chicken

Newt? Mitt? Cain?

Newt.

296 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:17:24pm

ok huntsman is still bad
but at least he's not a bad person

297 Lidane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:17:36pm

re: #290 Gus 802

More pablum from Romney.

Don't worry. He'll walk it back soon enough.

298 RadicalModerate  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:17:37pm

I'm sure that all of the cash-strapped states will just LOVE the idea of having to foot the administrative costs of Medicare.

299 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:17:51pm

Ryan Plan. And Huntsman goes back into my crapcan.

300 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:17:58pm

re: #296 Sergey Romanov

ok huntsman is still bad
but at least he's not a bad person

Like I said, it's a low bar.

301 darthstar  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:18:19pm

re: #299 Decatur Deb

Ryan Plan. And Huntsman goes back into my crapcan.

Exactly what I was going to say.

302 Altermite  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:18:29pm

re: #293 jaunte

Mitt is quite a panderer.

And the pope is catholic, whisky will get you drunk, and bears will happily poop in the woods.

303 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:18:30pm

re: #298 RadicalModerate

I'm sure that all of the cash-strapped states will just LOVE the idea of having to foot the administrative costs of Medicare.

You know how easy it is for states to sell bonds and all.

//

304 Lidane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:18:38pm

re: #298 RadicalModerate

I'm sure that all of the cash-strapped states will just LOVE the idea of having to foot the administrative costs of Medicare.

I can just imagine the lawsuits the states would file over that.

305 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:19:02pm

re: #299 Decatur Deb

Ryan Plan. And Huntsman goes back into my crapcan.

Yeah. He's a slime ball too. I just noticed that.

306 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:19:13pm

re: #299 Decatur Deb

Ryan Plan. And Huntsman goes back into my crapcan.

If he said what is necessary (i.e., raise taxes), he'd be booed off stage.

307 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:19:24pm

re: #300 thedopefishlives

Like I said, it's a low bar.

yep
i could find a lot people who don't support torture AND are good persons

/

308 bratwurst  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:19:41pm

Again I ask Newt: as a teacher with 18 years of experience who is presently unemployed, what "training" would you require me to undertake in order to collect my meager unemployment check?

309 Lidane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:20:08pm

re: #306 freetoken

If he said what is necessary (i.e., raise taxes), he'd be booed off stage openly threatened by the wingnuts and teabaggers.

FTFY

310 jaunte  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:20:10pm

Let's be China!

311 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:20:23pm

Gahhh... Bachmann trumpeting the fact that supposedly communist China doesn't have social security programs.

312 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:20:36pm

re: #305 Gus 802

Yeah. He's a slime ball too. I just noticed that.

if he were a slimeball he would be all rah rah yay torture
he's wrong tho

313 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:20:50pm

Move to China, Michele, and drop Cain in Chile as you go.

314 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:21:08pm

re: #310 jaunte

Let's be China!

I have been accused of being an Asian parent. (By my daughter, for freaking out of a C on a test.)

315 RadicalModerate  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:21:13pm

Good God. That has to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard Michelle Bachmann ever utter.

"China doesn't have food stamps".

And now much of China lives below third-world poverty levels?

316 jaunte  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:21:52pm

re: #314 EmmmieG

Tigermom!
[Link: tigermomsays.tumblr.com...]

317 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:22:25pm

re: #310 jaunte

Let's be China!

Pretty much the final goal of GOP's policies in this election. We must not only be like China, we must drive ourselves even farther into the ground, as that's the only way to bring back the jobs, apparently.

318 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:22:45pm

re: #316 jaunte

Tigermom!
[Link: tigermomsays.tumblr.com...]

Yeah, she reads that and Asian Dad as well and laughs, and laughs...

319 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:22:50pm

re: #278 eclectic infidel

Connection is wonky.

Try this one...

[Link: nationaljournal.com...]

320 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:23:08pm

re: #317 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Pretty much the final goal of GOP's policies in this election. We must not only be like China, we must drive ourselves even farther into the ground, as that's the only way to bring back the jobs, apparently.

Laying the ground for our version of The Long March?

321 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:23:35pm

Whew. Much better feed there.

322 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:24:45pm

re: #320 oaktree

Laying the ground for our version of The Long March?

Comrade, where is your copy of the Quotations from Chairman Romney?

///

323 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:25:24pm

common sense from santorum
but he is still a fuck

324 Lidane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:25:43pm

The Guardian liveblog is fun, especially when the author starts with this tweet:

[Link: twitter.com...]

325 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:26:14pm

Dangerous world. And the only thing that kept the 9/11 hijackers in the USA was inept paperwork.

326 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:26:18pm

Newt: "Vote for me, because you should be very, very afraid."

327 funky chicken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:26:35pm

re: #311 freetoken

Gahhh... Bachmann trumpeting the fact that supposedly communist China doesn't have social security programs.

Wait...is she flouting the China Model?

Hopefully she'll praise their family planning next.

Good God.

328 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:26:53pm

doesn't look like any gotcha moments are forthcoming

329 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:26:54pm

Huntsman playing toy soldier.

330 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:26:57pm

re: #324 Lidane

The Guardian liveblog is fun, especially when the author starts with this tweet:

[Link: twitter.com...]

Nice cabbages as his background image.

331 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:27:41pm

This outta be good.

332 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:28:15pm

boring

333 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:28:16pm

Lame.

334 andres  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:28:54pm

re: #273 jaunte

Mitt Romney tweets:
100 Retweets
Overheard conversation at G-20 another sign of Obama's low regard for Israel and its leader...I will stand by our allies, not tear them down

What do Romney thought would be an appropriate response? Kick the French President in the nuts?

335 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:29:04pm

ok who won?

336 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:29:15pm

Can we have another? When is the next debate?

337 Big Joe Ghazi  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:29:38pm

19th of November I think

338 Lidane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:29:47pm

re: #335 Sergey Romanov

ok who won?

Obama

339 funky chicken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:30:08pm

Jesus, it's gonna be Romney/Bachmann. They'll bring back the jobs by turning us into Worker's Paradise 2.0.

340 jaunte  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:30:09pm

re: #334 andres

He just thought he found a scrap of red meat to throw out.

341 RadicalModerate  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:30:32pm

And it's over.

Every candidate (with the possible exception of Huntsman) definitely came to South Carolina via the crazy train, as 90% of their answers during the debate were completely detached from reality. However, each of them had a singular point of sanity.... but each on completely different points.

342 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:30:40pm

re: #336 Decatur Deb

Can we have another? When is the next debate?

It's the God and Family "debate" from Iowa:
[Link: www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com...]

343 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:30:47pm

perry and romney were americafuckyeah enough, i guess they won
cain not so much

344 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:30:52pm

re: #335 Sergey Romanov

ok who won?

Jonick Huntstorum

//

345 funky chicken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:31:10pm

re: #337 mracb

19th of November I think

In a week? Why the hell are they having all these stupid things?

346 Gus  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:31:27pm

re: #342 freetoken

It's the God and Family "debate" from Iowa:
[Link: www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com...]

Oh brother. Another one?

347 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:31:34pm

re: #342 freetoken

It's the God and Family "debate" from Iowa:
[Link: www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com...]

That'll get the freak flying.

348 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:31:42pm

In fact, 4 of the next 5 debates are from Iowa.

349 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:31:45pm

re: #335 Sergey Romanov

ok who won?

Obama.

350 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:31:49pm

re: #343 Sergey Romanov

perry and romney were americafuckyeah enough, i guess they won
cain not so much

they were the same
but delivery matters

351 Lidane  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:31:50pm

Ahahaha...

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Now Jon Huntsman is showing off that he actually knows stuff about things. God he's insufferable.

Apparently he's also a nice guy and has handsome, delightful children. You've got to hate him. He's like a Republican Al Gore.

352 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:32:19pm

Because everybody knows the nicest place to be during the cold months is in Iowa.

353 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:34:56pm

as long as romney projects this patriotic hamster with huge balls image, i predict the base is his despite mormonism
and i'm out

354 freetoken  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:35:03pm

In fact, the next "debate" is hosted by, and will be streamed by, The Family Leader, the group headed by Bob Vander Plaats, of whom we've written much here.

[Link: www.thefamilyleader.com...]

355 b_Snark  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:36:03pm

I feel I've missed something that was supposed to be important but turned out not to be.

Were there killer clowns here tonight?

356 sagehen  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 6:37:13pm

re: #314 EmmmieG

I have been accused of being an Asian parent. (By my daughter, for freaking out of a C on a test.)

If you were a Jewish parent you'd be just as distressed, but you wouldn't "freak out." You'd sigh, heavily, and look sad....

357 Robert O.  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 7:04:28pm

How many of these meaningless exercises have there been already? You have to live under a rock to not know what these GOP debates are about. Not a single original idea has been expressed. You already know what they are going to talk about; e.g., Rick Perry is going to suck, Ron Paul is going to be crazy, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are going to appear quasi-Presidential only because the field is so ridiculously week.

How many more months of torture will the public have to endure until we gear up for mid-terms in 2014, in the land of never-ending elections?

358 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 7:15:38pm

re: #327 funky chicken

Bachmann's kinda right, kinda wrong. China has decent social security for members of the Party, but that's only about 10%-20% of the total population. Teachers and government workers have retirement pensions. Factory workers and farmers are shit out of luck. Health care is pay as you go for most people. No pay? You go -- Doctors don't do anything expensive or time consuming until you pay up front. Long term care for orphans and abandoned kids, the elderly and the mentally ill is weak and woefully underfunded. Day care is virtually non-existent; that's what grandparents are for. Migrant workers' children have to stay with grandpa and grandma in their hometowns, because migrant kids are not allowed in schools outside their hometowns.

And the list goes on. Either Bachmann is seriously misinformed, or she seriously thinks this "system" is the way to go. (Social Security only for Christians and Republicans?) Neither alternative would surprise me.

359 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Nov 12, 2011 8:21:41pm

re: #199 WindUpBird

he knows he's sorta fucked on domestic policy because he's not insane, so he has to be ultra-masculine white patriarch who will go get the bad guys

Well that should be easy, the nerdy black guy in the White House has already killed so many of them already.

360 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 13, 2011 12:06:56am

I liked Newt's "taking out all their scientists, all covertly, all deniable".

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