1 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:12:37pm

Stuff is twirling around in his head.

I get that when I've had a few.

2 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:16:30pm

I'm a much more deliberate problem.

3 Kragar  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:16:41pm

Big potato moth.

4 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:18:43pm

That'll teach him to ditch the magic yellow tie.

5 Stanghazi  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:20:05pm

Sister Sarah is yelling at these 2, "IDIOTS! Write it on your hand!!"

6 albusteve  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:20:15pm

oh look!...a bottle cap!

7 chonguey  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:21:11pm

"I'm a much more deliberate decision maker"

My sides hurt from laughing

8 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:21:13pm

Second reason why I want Cain to win the primary: his debates with Obama.

9 elisabeth  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:22:08pm

And I don't feel the least bit sorry for him. Does remind me of this, though.

10 makeitstop  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:22:19pm

The only thing he could have added would be 'In what respect, Charlie?'

11 albusteve  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:22:40pm

is that the Kama Sutra on the lower shelf?

12 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:22:50pm

I fully expect right wing bloggers to defend this video as an example of Cain's brilliant foreign policy ideas.

13 albusteve  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:23:18pm

beware....
this is your brain on pepperoni

14 zora  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:23:28pm

cain on libya: I don't know shit about what happened in libya but as the former ceo of godfather's pizza I am sure I would have done a better job than obama.

15 elisabeth  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:23:31pm

re: #12 Charles

Or that he can't know everything and will have advisers to help him.

16 Achilles Tang  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:24:06pm

This is why I've been so quiet lately.

There's nothing to say, except "I'm embarrassed for my country".

17 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:24:18pm

I now believe that all those other candidates, Paul, Bachmann, Cain, Santorum, Gingrich, and yes, even Huntsman, they all keep campaigning solely to signal to Romney what the base does or does not want to hear. Because they will not get the nomination, but the base cannot directly communicate with Romney.

This is not politics but some weird, drawn-out black magic ritual going on here.

18 Kragar  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:24:39pm

"I would have done a better job assessing the situation."

Says the man who hired Mark Block as a campaign manager.

19 freetoken  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:24:49pm

Cain really needs to learn how to handle these questions better, if he is at all serious about being elected.

Why couldn't he simply have stated that he really doesn't have details on Libya (he could have said that the important information is classified), and overall that time will tell if Obama took the right approach or not?

Still, I'll give him only a .5ℙ (where 1ℙ is a full on Rick Perry Moment).

20 chonguey  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:24:52pm

Mitt Romney may be a craven flip-flopper, but he at least gives the impression that he knows what he is talking about.

Cain obviously hasn't got a clue about it and is just trying to assemble a committee of words until the interviewer thinks he has given an "answer."

21 albusteve  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:25:06pm

Mo was the opposition with a 40yr rap sheet you dunce

22 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:25:26pm

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Big potato moth.

BIG potato moth.

23 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:25:53pm

re: #20 chonguey

And he still does better than Palin.

24 I Am Kreniigh!  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:26:24pm

This is starting to remind me of some of the more awkward scenes from The Office. Is this all an elaborate hoax by Ricky Gervais?

25 Kragar  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:26:28pm

He wants to have all the information, though he knows he would have done a better job than Obama, despite not having access to all the information Obama had.

26 albusteve  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:26:36pm

re: #16 Naso Tang

This is why I've been so quiet lately.

There's nothing to say, except "I'm embarrassed for my country".

yup

27 engineer cat  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:27:22pm

in replying to any question, a gop candidate should start with the proposition "i disagree with obama's position on this" and work from there

28 erik_t  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:27:33pm

re: #19 freetoken

Why couldn't he simply have stated that he really doesn't have details on Libya (he could have said that the important information is classified), and overall that time will tell if Obama took the right approach or not?

This answer is incompatible with the position that Obama screwed up.

Not that internal consistency is a major factor in any answer I've heard from GOP candidates for 2012.

29 laZardo  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:28:19pm

re: #22 SanFranciscoZionist

BIG potato moth.

BIG potato moth.

[keepin up the pattern]

30 rwdflynavy  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:28:40pm

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

He wants to have all the information, though he knows he would have done a better job than Obama, despite not having access to all the information Obama had.

I understand that the GOP candidates have to disagree with some of the things Obama has or has not done. This one seems like a serious no-brainer to agree with the President's actions.

31 albusteve  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:29:00pm

re: #17 000G

I now believe that all those other candidates, Paul, Bachmann, Cain, Santorum, Gingrich, and yes, even Huntsman, they all keep campaigning solely to signal to Romney what the base does or does not want to hear.

This is some weird, drawn-out black magic ritual going on here.

not really....just a group of dunces lying their way around the track...if there is more to it, then that is even less important than this display of tardness....you give them entirely way too much credit

32 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:29:20pm

Some of these guys, I glimpse these complex political trends under their speech, layers of messages for supporters, entire world views that, while perhaps stupid, evil, or poorly articulared, are part of political discourse.

With Cain--he seems to just be a sort of cranky business guy who doesn't know a lot about politics, but figures he's smart enough to give it a try. And he always sounds like someone interviewing for a job he's not remotely qualified for, just sort of making shit up to see if it will fly.

33 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:30:29pm

There's a whole lot more.

34 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:32:09pm

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

He wants to have all the information, though he knows he would have done a better job than Obama, despite not having access to all the information Obama had.

He would have done a better job of assessing the situation than Obama. He doesn't know how well Obama did of assessing the situation. See? It all makes sense.

35 albusteve  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:33:40pm

re: #34 Obdicut

He would have done a better job of assessing the situation than Obama. He doesn't know how well Obama did of assessing the situation. See? It all makes sense.

I thought 'lets try to kill MO' was a terrific idea....there is little more to it than that as far as BO's input

36 iceweasel  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:34:03pm

''as president you're supposed to know everything--no you don't!"

37 jaunte  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:34:48pm

re: #36 iceweasel

Executive summary!

38 efuseakay  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 2:46:49pm

re: #19 freetoken

Why couldn't he simply have stated that he really doesn't have details on Libya (he could have said that the important information is classified), and overall that time will tell if Obama took the right approach or not?

Because "facts on the ground" don't matter to these morons. It's all about "Obama's wrong! He sucks!".

Even when he's right... and blows.

39 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 3:05:44pm

Outstanding.

I don't know that I would have done things differently, and I don't know what information they had in making their decisions, and I don't know how they evaluated the opposition, and I don't know who was in the opposition, and I certainly can't say what I would have done differently.

But I know that I would have done things differently, and that the way they handled it wrong.

Because I'm a businessman.

40 jaunte  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 3:12:43pm

@JonHenke:
Is there a way to reduce Libya policy to a series of numbers? If so, please contact the Cain campaign immediately.

41 Kragar  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 3:23:17pm

Cain Also Stumbles On Public Employee Collective Bargaining

On the issue of collective bargaining, Cain said he supported the right of public employees to bargain collectively.

"But not collective hijacking. What I mean by that, if they have gotten so much for so many years and it's going to bankrupt the state, I don't think that's good. It appears that in some instances, they really don't care."

...

Cain also appeared to be unclear on the issue of collective bargaining as it involves federal employees. Asked if he thought federal employees should have the ability to bargain collectively, Cain said: "They already have it, don't they?"

Told they didn't, he said, "They have unions."

The American Federation of Government Employees, which represents 600,000 federal government workers in 65 agencies, says that most federal employees don't have collective bargaining over pay and benefits.

They do have collective bargaining rights over working conditions.

42 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 3:30:42pm

re: #40 jaunte

@JonHenke:
Is there a way to reduce Libya policy to a series of numbers? If so, please contact the Cain campaign immediately.

And ideally, it would be a policy that could be described simply by repeating one number two or three times. Involving different numbers might make it prohibitively complicated.

43 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 3:32:28pm

re: #32 SanFranciscoZionist

he seems like someone who's used to stuff coming easily to him in business, and figures campaigning for prez is the same thing

44 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 3:33:20pm

re: #14 zora

cain on libya: I don't know shit about what happened in libya but as the former ceo of godfather's pizza I am sure I would have done a better job than obama.

fast food and foreign policy

nearly identical skill sets


the middle east can be conquered with MSG and transfats

45 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 3:35:37pm

re: #44 WindUpBird

fast food and foreign policy

nearly identical skill sets

the middle east can be conquered with MSG and transfats

Bill O'Reilly will be Cain's SecDef. He knows all about falafel. (He is also the master of loofah.)

46 Gus  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 3:47:56pm

I'm getting:

The video you are trying to watch is currently unavailable...

47 Gus  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 3:48:40pm

re: #46 Gus 802

I'm getting:

The video you are trying to watch is currently unavailable...

Nix that. It's working now.

48 Gus  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 3:51:33pm

Good God he's pathetic. He makes Sarah Palin sound like a foreign policy genius. All he's saying is "I would have done it better."

49 krypto  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 4:09:10pm

What I found to be the real turn-off of that Cain performance is not only that he didn't have a clue what he was talking about, but that his ignorance didn't stop him from pretending to disagree with and criticize Obama on the issue.

50 Petero1818  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 4:40:12pm

Oh and......San Dimas High School Football Rules!!!

51 mjm1374  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 5:48:10pm

it really shows Cain's lack of political experience. Running a government, much less the most powerful military in the world is not like running a chain of pizza joints. his cluelessness is obvious as he tries to dance around his answer.

52 labman57  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 7:03:00pm

"Libya, Libya, Libya .... say, you wanna hear me recite my pizza menus to a tune from Pirates of Penzance?"

53 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 9:20:17pm

re: #51 mjm1374

it really shows Cain's lack of political experience. Running a government, much less the most powerful military in the world is not like running a chain of pizza joints. his cluelessness is obvious as he tries to dance around his answer.

Riffing on that comment, it makes me wonder why anyone without any political or personal experience with world affairs or the military would even consider him- or herself qualified to be President and the C-i-C. Or why the public would believe such a person were qualified. I'm thinking of Palin and Bachmann here, as well as Cain. Palin's been a small town mayor and a half-term governor of a thinly populated state that pays bonuses to its residents. Bachmann has practically no legislative history, despite years in the House. Cain was a CEO of a pizza chain (and not even the largest one). All three have demonstrated zero expertise in foreign and military affairs, and zero intellectual curiosity to learn about more them. And let's not forget their seeming inability to string together a coherent paragraph.

Obama may not have had any executive experience, but he had the intellectual mettle to learn about stuff before he started campaigning for the presidency. He has never come across as a dunderhead. Yet the Wingnuts excoriate him and worship Cain. I just don't get it.

54 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 14, 2011 10:10:28pm

re: #53 wheatdogg

Obama may not have had any executive experience, but he had the intellectual mettle to learn about stuff before he started campaigning for the presidency. He has never come across as a dunderhead. Yet the Wingnuts excoriate him and worship Cain. I just don't get it.

I get it.

That's their version of Authentic Blackness -- they say so every day. Who knows what personal inadequacy demons HC has to fight to go along with this characterization, but to me it's the same old conservative self-loathing, just Black Con style.

That's the social aspect, the window dressing, the showbiz minstrel show circus part of the Cain phenomenon. I think the bottom line is, we have seen out of the tea party is promotion of the dumbest, STUPIDEST conservative in the country as legitimate representatives. Christine O'Donnell, Carl Paladino, Allen West, Joe Miller, Sharron Angle, etc. Reason: they can be easily controlled and manipulated, and will just say a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g.

They really do aspire to the lowest common denominator, and will call anyone who still expects excellence out of their politicians naive and elitist.

55 Big_Iron  Tue, Nov 15, 2011 7:51:02am

Have you people ever thought that if this was said against your President you would be raising holy hell about it being "RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST?"
But then again, Cain doesn't use teleprompters and speech writers to tell him every word.
You are just a bunch of Racist haters. How's that grab you?

56 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Nov 15, 2011 8:04:17am

re: #55 Big_Iron

Have you people ever thought that if this was said against your President you would be raising holy hell about it being "RAAACIST?"
But then again, Cain doesn't use teleprompters and speech writers to tell him every word.
You are just a bunch of Racist haters. How's that grab you?

It doesn't, really, cause we're not a bunch of racist haters. You, on the other hand... For example, you know as well as anyone that lots of politicians (incl. Palin and many other conservatives) use teleprompters. You also know Obama does a hell of a job without a teleprompter (like when he invited top Rethuglicans to debate healthcare and basically won) and sometimes writes his own speeches (e.g. his speech on race, post-Wright). Yet you still use the teleprompter meme to disparage Obama's intellect. Perhaps you're doing it because Obama is black?

57 tnguitarist  Tue, Nov 15, 2011 3:08:59pm

re: #55 Big_Iron

Have you people ever thought that if this was said against your President you would be raising holy hell about it being "RAAACIST?"
But then again, Cain doesn't use teleprompters and speech writers to tell him every word.
You are just a bunch of Racist haters. How's that grab you?

I know, right?

Most people don't realize, but Obama is the first president to use a teleprompter. Conservatives would never use one.

58 yoshicastmaster  Tue, Nov 15, 2011 7:36:42pm

My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.... My mind is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention!

59 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Nov 15, 2011 11:47:19pm

re: #58 yoshicastmaster

My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives... My mind is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention!


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