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1 iossarian  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:07:39am

They don't call'em dittoheads for nuthin.

2 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:08:48am

The First Lady of the United States cannot be 'uppity'. A person of her social standing can, at worst, be described as 'aloof'.

Which she isn't.

3 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:11:28am

re: #2 SanFranciscoZionist

The First Lady of the United States cannot be 'uppity'. A person of her social standing can, at worst, be described as 'aloof'.

Which she isn't.

I think that's what drives these guys nuts. She is totally entitled to be treated like the wife of a head of state, and First Lady. When she is given respect and her opinions are considered important, and fashion magazines analyze her jewelry, this is absolutely how it should be. Or at least, it's traditional.

4 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:12:38am

I am not sure I understand what uppity means. In the usual historical context, it was mean to describe blacks who refused to bow and scrape to whites in the South. What did it mean in the rest of the nation? I have no idea.

For me, it's a poisoned word that you avoid, because for most people my age, it only has the first meaning, and any others have been lost.

Now, stuck-up, that I understand. That was pretty much endemic in junior high. Every girl described every girl she didn't like as stuck-up.

5 Flounder  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:13:36am

re: #4 EmmmieG

or a whore

6 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:14:53am

re: #5 Shropshire_Slasher

or a whore

Maybe that's after my time. Slut was in my time. That and, as I mentioned, stuck-up, which I took to mean as "isn't my friend."

I was the weird awkward smart girl in the corner with a book.

7 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:15:01am

"Uppity" is basically pretending to have more status than you do. Most Beckites and Limbaugh dittoheads are therefore uppity, since they mistake their confused amalgam of prejudice, ignorance, and self-serving assumptions for actual intellect, and assert that it has equal standing with, say, the conclusions of climate scientists.
As SFZ points out, the First Lady almost can't be uppity, since there is almost no status higher than the one she actually has.

8 abbyadams  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:15:15am

re: #3 SanFranciscoZionist

I agree with this totally. It's just another thing for these guys to whine about.

9 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:15:39am

The First Lady is near.

10 abbyadams  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:16:14am

re: #9 JasonA

Upding for the Brooks reference.

11 webevintage  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:16:54am

This is not going to be another one of those times where these assholes spew their racist bullshit and then go on the defensive claiming they had no idea "calling a black person uppity (or picturing them with watermelon, or as a African witchdoctor or as a monkey sitting on a porch) was just good old fashion racism instead of satirical humor at its finest" is it?

12 nines09  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:17:15am

Limbaugh plus Beck equals racist to the Nth degree. Two druggies who deep down hate themselves and project like an overhead projector.

13 Renaissance_Man  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:18:02am

In that clip, the first thing Glenn says is 'have you heard what they say about Rush? About me?'

No, not at all, actually. What does the President or the First Lady say about you? I'd actually be stunned if Obama has mentioned either of them in any meaningful way, and I'm pretty certain Michelle Obama has never actually spoken in any regard about obese cult demagogues. So what do 'they' say about you? Anything at all? Or could this just be projection again, like every single other opinion and attack that the cult holds?

14 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:19:23am

When the hell did arugula become the new caviar, anyway?

15 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:21:37am

re: #4 EmmmieG

I am not sure I understand what uppity means. In the usual historical context, it was mean to describe blacks who refused to bow and scrape to whites in the South. What did it mean in the rest of the nation? I have no idea.

For me, it's a poisoned word that you avoid, because for most people my age, it only has the first meaning, and any others have been lost.

Now, stuck-up, that I understand. That was pretty much endemic in junior high. Every girl described every girl she didn't like as stuck-up.

The normal usage assumes that the person being described is presuming above their station. This is why it's normally used to describe black people, women and children, although I've heard it used in old-fashioned Southern novels to describe the white nouveau riche as well.

Hence, in this use, it's a desperate attempt to reduce Michelle Obama to a person who knows she isn't really important enough to get the special seats and the special service and the special treatment, but is pushing for it anyway, because she likes putting one over on her 'betters'--that would be Rush Limbaugh's listeners--who therefore are entitled to mock her and put her back in her place.

Thing is, of course, that they are very, very mistaken in this. Michelle is not only inherently classier than Rush Limbaugh, she is the wife of the President of the United States of America, which, by itself, makes her a special person to be treated specially.

16 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:21:47am

The only difference between Limbaugh and Beck are the type of drugs they took (take?) to wreck their brains.

End result - one fried brain backing up another. And neither one has a tenth of the class that Michelle Obama has.

17 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:21:47am

re: #14 JasonA

When the hell did arugula become the new caviar, anyway?

What is arugula? I know that caviar is actually sturgeon roe, which is why I would never touch it, but what is arugula?

18 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:22:18am

re: #14 JasonA

When the hell did arugula become the new caviar, anyway?

When a Chicagoan orders it with a British accent, according to Beck.

19 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:23:07am

re: #17 EmmmieG

What is arugula? I know that caviar is actually sturgeon roe, which is why I would never touch it, but what is arugula?

One of the salad greens in my garden.

20 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:23:11am

re: #17 EmmmieG

What is arugula? I know that caviar is actually sturgeon roe, which is why I would never touch it, but what is arugula?

It's a leafy green vegetable. Nothing says "snooty" quite like that.

21 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:24:15am

Sergey, someone left this comment at my blog, Can you translate? Is it Russian spam?

раскрутка сайта, оптимизация, продвижение

22 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:24:15am

Heh.

*Accurate, according to the Romney standard of accuracy.

New ThinkProgress ‘Ad’: Romney Says ‘Let Us Just Raise Your Taxes Some More’*

23 shecky  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:24:42am

Who does that bitch think she is, the president's wife?

Class warfare is only bad when Democrats do it.

24 celticdragon  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:25:14am

Uppity?

Christ on a crutch.

[Link: www.otakuzone.com...]

25 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:25:24am

re: #15 SanFranciscoZionist

The normal usage assumes that the person being described is presuming above their station. This is why it's normally used to describe black people, women and children, although I've heard it used in old-fashioned Southern novels to describe the white nouveau riche as well.

Hence, in this use, it's a desperate attempt to reduce Michelle Obama to a person who knows she isn't really important enough to get the special seats and the special service and the special treatment, but is pushing for it anyway, because she likes putting one over on her 'betters'--that would be Rush Limbaugh's listeners--who therefore are entitled to mock her and put her back in her place.

Thing is, of course, that they are very, very mistaken in this. Michelle is not only inherently classier than Rush Limbaugh, she is the wife of the President of the United States of America, which, by itself, makes her a special person to be treated specially.

This is the United States. Other than the US Army, do we have stations? The entire point of not having an aristocracy was that we are all equal.

And I don't eat bait or what look to me like dandelion leaves. I think this is what was in that salad at the Smithsonian that I hated. Too bitter. I actually did feel like I was eating the leaves off of some of my plants. I did not like the taste.

If this makes me downity, so be it.

26 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:25:24am

Yep, they're white conservative men.

27 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:25:41am

re: #13 Renaissance_Man

In that clip, the first thing Glenn says is 'have you heard what they say about Rush? About me?'

No, not at all, actually. What does the President or the First Lady say about you? I'd actually be stunned if Obama has mentioned either of them in any meaningful way, and I'm pretty certain Michelle Obama has never actually spoken in any regard about obese cult demagogues. So what do 'they' say about you? Anything at all? Or could this just be projection again, like every single other opinion and attack that the cult holds?

Everyone knows that Barack and Michelle sit around the White House and insult Rush and Glenn. It's their favorite thing to do after a long day taking away America's freedoms. Then they pig out on cheeseburgers.

28 mikec6666  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:26:30am

Their complaint is that she orders steak and an arugula salad? What's the problem?

FYI - Uppity is a term white southerners use to complain about blacks who presume too much.

29 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:27:06am

re: #25 EmmmieG

If other people want to eat those things, more power to them. Eat what you want, if you can afford it.

30 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:27:10am

re: #14 JasonA

When the hell did arugula become the new caviar, anyway?

It was, admittedly, a total campaign flub, and a funny one.

But there's nothing wrong with arugula.

"Rocket", they used to call it, before Americans stopped eating the old-fashioned salad greens and had to have them reintroduced to us by Italian chefs.

31 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:27:22am

re: #11 webevintage

Yeah that and pointing out that yer the racist, for having pointed it out.

So predictable.

32 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:27:39am

re: #14 JasonA

When the hell did arugula become the new caviar, anyway?

It's become downright subversive on the right.
During Soviet times, we rightly ridiculed Soviet theoreticians for creating such categories as "politically correct vegetables." (This was "politically correct" in its original, non-ironic, and communistically humorless sense). Cabbage, for example, was a politically correct veggie, since it produced a lot of nutrition and calories relative to the effort put into raising it. Lettuce was less correct, however, since the calorie/nutrition payoff was much lower for the resources expended.
It is a wonder to me that we, and the new right-wing of all people, have managed not only to revive the political vegetable, but to elaborate on it.

33 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:28:41am

re: #17 EmmmieG

What is arugula? I know that caviar is actually sturgeon roe, which is why I would never touch it, but what is arugula?

Just salad fixings. It can also be used as a pasta filling, and some other stuff. Green.

34 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:28:45am

Btw, I can't abide arugula. Whoever figured out you could eat the stuff must have been awfully hungry.

35 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:29:00am

re: #25 EmmmieG

This is the United States. Other than the US Army, do we have stations? The entire point of not having an aristocracy was that we are all equal.

And I don't eat bait or what look to me like dandelion leaves. I think this is what was in that salad at the Smithsonian that I hated. Too bitter. I actually did feel like I was eating the leaves off of some of my plants. I did not like the taste.

If this makes me downity, so be it.

It's not about class or station--it's about race. The only other use might be about a child who assumed adult privilege.

36 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:29:05am

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel

It's become downright subversive on the right.
During Soviet times, we rightly ridiculed Soviet theoreticians for creating such categories as "politically correct vegetables." (This was "politically correct" in its original, non-ironic, and communistically humorless sense). Cabbage, for example, was a politically correct veggie, since it produced a lot of nutrition and calories relative to the effort put into raising it. Lettuce was less correct, however, since the calorie/nutrition payoff was much lower for the resources expended.
It is a wonder to me that we, and the new right-wing of all people, have managed not only to revive the political vegetable, but to elaborate on it.

I think you've put far more thought into it than they have.

37 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:29:59am

re: #21 Alouette

Sergey, someone left this comment at my blog, Can you translate? Is it Russian spam?

раскрутка сайта, оптимизация, продвижение

I don't know Russian, but I do have a Google Translate plugin:

website promotion, optimization, promotion

Looks like spam to me.

38 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:30:38am

re: #35 Decatur Deb

It's not about class or station--it's about race. The only other use might be about a child who assumed adult privilege.

Ah, so this is about Michele wanting to sit at the grown-up's table.

I prefer the kid's table. The food is the same, and nobody cares if you have a spaghetti noodle go horribly wrong.

39 celticdragon  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:31:03am

re: #14 JasonA

When the hell did arugula become the new caviar, anyway?

Back when Saul Alinsky and Van Jones slipped it into the menu of the gubmint run indoctrination centers staffed by ACORN drones which the lefty subversives call public schools.

40 Renaissance_Man  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:31:32am

re: #27 SanFranciscoZionist

Everyone knows that Barack and Michelle sit around the White House and insult Rush and Glenn. It's their favorite thing to do after a long day taking away America's freedoms. Then they pig out on cheeseburgers.

It'd be funnier if that wasn't pretty much exactly how the average cultist thinks.

Insisting that 'they' hate you so that you can feel better about hating 'them' even more is a propaganda tactic that's been around since time immemorial, but there's never been anything like the current media machine to disseminate it.

41 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:31:40am

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel

It's become downright subversive on the right.
During Soviet times, we rightly ridiculed Soviet theoreticians for creating such categories as "politically correct vegetables." (This was "politically correct" in its original, non-ironic, and communistically humorless sense). Cabbage, for example, was a politically correct veggie, since it produced a lot of nutrition and calories relative to the effort put into raising it. Lettuce was less correct, however, since the calorie/nutrition payoff was much lower for the resources expended.
It is a wonder to me that we, and the new right-wing of all people, have managed not only to revive the political vegetable, but to elaborate on it.

I LOLed yesterday when someone posted that pepper spray is a vegetable.

42 celticdragon  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:32:00am

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel

Btw, I can't abide arugula. Whoever figured out you could eat the stuff must have been awfully hungry.

Mix it with other greens like fresh baby spinach etc instead of eating it straight up.

43 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:32:38am

re: #42 celticdragon

Mix it with other greens like fresh baby spinach etc instead of eating it straight up.

This would require me to eat fresh baby spinach.

I'm proud that I got my husband onto Romaine from Iceberg.

44 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:32:40am

Arugula and Belgian Endive are commie salad, eaten only by Democrats, and only with Russian dressing. Idiots.

45 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:33:29am

re: #41 wrenchwench

I LOLed yesterday when someone posted that pepper spray is a vegetable.

Yeah, that was what Megyn Kelly said. It's a food product. So basically we can start dousing protesters with ricin and it's all good...

46 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:34:26am

re: #42 celticdragon

Mix it with other greens like fresh baby spinach etc instead of eating it straight up.

I can do beet greens, Swiss chard and dandelion greens, but I can't do arugula.

47 elizajane  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:34:45am

re: #14 JasonA

When the hell did arugula become the new caviar, anyway?

Don't you know that Real Americans only eat WHITE LETTUCE? That dark stuff just gets too uppity.

48 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:34:47am

re: #25 EmmmieG

This is the United States. Other than the US Army, do we have stations? The entire point of not having an aristocracy was that we are all equal.

And I don't eat bait or what look to me like dandelion leaves. I think this is what was in that salad at the Smithsonian that I hated. Too bitter. I actually did feel like I was eating the leaves off of some of my plants. I did not like the taste.

If this makes me downity, so be it.

"Downity". I like it.

No, that's all true, and I don't mean to overstate. It's just that being FLOTUS is a very special role, and you get treated a certain way--and Rush is quite off, imagining that somehow Michelle is not entitled to that treatment.

As for dandelion leaves, folks put those in salads too. Some people don't like them, or arugula. Too bitter, as you say. We're accustomed to sweeter greens. I like the bite, but I also drink coffee with no sugar.

49 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:35:03am

re: #45 JasonA

Yeah, that was what Megyn Kelly said. It's a food product. So basically we can start dousing protesters with ricin and it's all good...

Or put pepper spray on your burrito! It's just a spice, right?

//

50 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:35:09am

re: #45 JasonA

Yeah, that was what Megyn Kelly said. It's a food product. So basically we can start dousing protesters with ricin and it's all good...

They probably think grapeshot is made from actual fruit.

51 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:36:02am

re: #29 EmmmieG

If other people want to eat those things, more power to them. Eat what you want, if you can afford it.

I just don't think there's anything Michelle could eat that would not outrage Rush. Either it's too expensive, or it's too foreign, or it's got too many calories. Or all three.

52 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:36:13am

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel

They probably think grapeshot is made from actual fruit.

So buckshot isn't made with dollar bills?

53 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:36:54am

One of the first signs that I might not really fit in with the right was when I realized I actually enjoyed the taste of arugula.

From arugula it was just a short step toward Marxism.

54 celticdragon  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:37:02am

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel

They probably think grapeshot is made from actual fruit.

Awesome!

As a side note, I will training up to be on the 6 pounder gun crew at Guilford Courthouse National Battlefield.

Grapeshot is some real nasty shit...but cannister shot is downright terrifying.

55 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:37:14am

re: #48 SanFranciscoZionist

"Downity". I like it.

No, that's all true, and I don't mean to overstate. It's just that being FLOTUS is a very special role, and you get treated a certain way--and Rush is quite off, imagining that somehow Michelle is not entitled to that treatment.

As for dandelion leaves, folks put those in salads too. Some people don't like them, or arugula. Too bitter, as you say. We're accustomed to sweeter greens. I like the bite, but I also drink coffee with no sugar.

Well, yes, in a sense the President of the United States and by extension, his wife, temporarily represent the US, and as such should show a measure of dignity and be shown respect so as to show respect to the United States.

Washington understood this, as did subsequent presidents.

56 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:37:19am

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

I just don't think there's anything Michelle could eat that would not outrage Rush. Either it's too expensive, or it's too foreign, or it's got too many calories. Or all three.

And growing it in the yard of the Whitehouse, that's just so pretentious!!1!

57 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:37:25am

re: #43 EmmmieG

This would require me to eat fresh baby spinach.

I'm proud that I got my husband onto Romaine from Iceberg.

Zedushka will only eat iceberg mix, with bottled dressing, while I make my own romaine & baby spinach with homemade balsamic dressing.

At least he eats a salad every day, but I think the bottled dressing cancels out any nutritional benefits.

58 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:37:40am

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

I just don't think there's anything Michelle could eat that would not outrage Rush. Either it's too expensive, or it's too foreign, or it's got too many calories. Or all three.

Too expensive. Too foreign. Too many calories.

She's eating Napoleons.

Yum.

59 celticdragon  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:37:42am

re: #52 JasonA

So buckshot isn't made with dollar bills?

Naw. made from ten dimes shoved into a shotgun shell ;)

60 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:38:01am
61 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:39:25am

re: #57 Alouette

Zedushka will only eat iceberg mix, with bottled dressing, while I make my own romaine & baby spinach with homemade balsamic dressing.

At least he eats a salad every day, but I think the bottled dressing cancels out any nutritional benefits.

Have you ever seen a Burger King "salad?"

Fried chicken pieces, iceberg lettuce with ranch dressing, and cheddar cheese.

Only the carrots save it.

On vacation, we can't stomach the fast food for very long, so we got a full survey of the salads of various fast food places. I think Arby's had some excellent ones, when I was there last, years ago.

62 albusteve  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:40:07am

re: #54 celticdragon

Awesome!

As a side note, I will training up to be on the 6 pounder gun crew at Guilford Courthouse National Battlefield.

Grapeshot is some real nasty shit...but cannister shot is downright terrifying.

especially flying out at 2k ft per second from an M-1A

63 iossarian  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:40:26am

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

I just don't think there's anything Michelle could eat that would not outrage Rush. Either it's too expensive, or it's too foreign, or it's got too many calories. Or all three.

Correction: either it's too expensive, or it's too cheap. Or it's too foreign, or it's too common. Or it's got too many calories, or it's too healthy.

Or she's too black.

64 elizajane  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:40:30am

On a right site I was reading last night (maybe HotAir?) the string of commenters claiming that they had never, ever heard of "uppity" as being racial in any way whatsoever was just hilarious. Where did they all grow up, North Dakota? Even in white-bread central Pennsylvania, "uppity" was about the negro folks.

65 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:40:40am

re: #49 makeitstop

Or put pepper spray on your burrito! It's just a spice, right?

//

Reminds me of the scene in K-Ville, where the cops are having breakfast, and someone offers Boulet the Tabasco. He declines, adding "I'm a black man. I use hot sauce."

I bet Boulet would pepper-spray his food, just to give it a kick.

66 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:40:45am

re: #61 EmmmieG

Have you ever seen a Burger King "salad?"

Fried chicken pieces, iceberg lettuce with ranch dressing, and cheddar cheese.

Only the carrots save it.

On vacation, we can't stomach the fast food for very long, so we got a full survey of the salads of various fast food places. I think Arby's had some excellent ones, when I was there last, years ago.

It's only because we keep kosher that we don't eat fast food, otherwise Zedushka would be the size of a barn.

67 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:40:54am

re: #60 000G

Not the first time:

Limbaugh on Obama: "We are being uppity if we disagree with this man's brilliance", June 22, 2009
Limbaugh: "Obama is uppity, but not as a black. He is an elitist", February 10, 2010

Yes, but notice that those previous "uppity" remarks were disguised. In the first, he's applying it to himself. In the second, he says he's not using it because Obama's black.

This time there's no disguise at all. He called the First Lady of the US 'uppity.'

68 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:42:15am

re: #64 elizajane

On a right site I was reading last night (maybe HotAir?) the string of commenters claiming that they had never, ever heard of "uppity" as being racial in any way whatsoever was just hilarious. Where did they all grow up, North Dakota? Even in white-bread central Pennsylvania, "uppity" was about the negro folks.

They're just lying, and they're not fooling anyone.

69 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:42:24am

re: #56 wrenchwench

It was popular in the eighteenth century--a few early first ladies might have grown it on the White House grounds.

70 erik_t  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:42:40am

re: #67 Charles

Yes, but notice that those previous "uppity" remarks were disguised. In the first, he's applying it to himself. In the second, he says he's not using it because Obama's black.

'I'm calling him uppity, but not because he's black' is about as disguised as 'No offense, but [highly offensive insult]'. Any credit more than zero is too much credit in this cas.e

71 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:43:14am

re: #53 Charles

Even then, you don't fit in. You're such a Trotskyite. /Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

There's no pleasing some folks... /Marx, Groucho

72 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:44:36am

re: #67 Charles

Yes, but notice that those previous "uppity" remarks were disguised. In the first, he's applying it to himself. In the second, he says he's not using it because Obama's black.

This time there's no disguise at all. He called the First Lady of the US 'uppity.'

I think the disguise was as thin as using the word uppity instead of n-word. But yeah, you're right.

73 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:44:39am

re: #64 elizajane

On a right site I was reading last night (maybe HotAir?) the string of commenters claiming that they had never, ever heard of "uppity" as being racial in any way whatsoever was just hilarious. Where did they all grow up, North Dakota? Even in white-bread central Pennsylvania, "uppity" was about the negro folks.

The extraordinary ignorance some of these folks claim about the history of racially-charged language in the United States is just amazing.

74 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:45:15am
75 Henchman Ghazi-808  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:45:18am

Don't be oppressed by the Arugula Class

76 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:45:38am

re: #62 albusteve

especially flying out at 2k ft per second from an M-1A

[Video]

8000 flechettes in this:

[Link: articles.janes.com...]

77 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:46:23am

On a different note: Tantaway, the head of the ruling Supreme Council of the Armed Forces in Egypt, has become the new Mubarak in the eyes of the Egyptians. They burn him in effigy on Tahrir while his speech is being transmitted.

Lots of fighting.

78 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:46:32am
79 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:46:47am

re: #72 000G

I think the disguise was as thin as using the word uppity instead of n-word. But yeah, you're right.

I keep wondering if they're going to get there. They've been laying such extensive groundwork.

I don't mean the Fox commenters, with their careful spellings and code. I mean someone like Rush.

80 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:47:10am
81 Henchman Ghazi-808  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:47:22am

Well, the n-word is not racist. It's actually a term for horse thieves.

82 Renaissance_Man  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:47:31am

re: #73 SanFranciscoZionist

The extraordinary ignorance some of these folks claim about the history of racially-charged language in the United States is just amazing.

Even if they were actually right, and it wasn't 'racist', that doesn't make it any more true. Michelle Obama could be white as the driven snow, and she'd still be treated like Marie Antoinette by these fools, hated as a dictator for no reason other than that their high priests feed them a daily dose of anger.

83 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:47:31am

re: #73 SanFranciscoZionist

The extraordinary ignorance some of these folks claim about the history of racially-charged language in the United States is just amazing.

Not really. It's one of thousands of reasons they cannot be trusted.

84 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:48:03am

re: #73 SanFranciscoZionist

The extraordinary ignorance some of these folks claim about the history of racially-charged language in the United States is just amazing.

Just speaking as a foreigner: It's hard to learn about this if you don't actively seek it out. None of my dictionaries (English or English-German) mentions the racial connotation of the word.

85 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:48:08am

re: #21 Alouette

Sergey, someone left this comment at my blog, Can you translate? Is it Russian spam?

раскрутка сайта, оптимизация, продвижение

Sure, spam. Optimization, promotion of sites.

86 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:49:08am

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

I keep wondering if they're going to get there. They've been laying such extensive groundwork.

I don't mean the Fox commenters, with their careful spellings and code. I mean someone like Rush.

Maybe he'll pull a Schlessinger some day and go full id. Wouldn't surprise me. Don't think it's inevitable, though. It's one of these things where clearly the people have full free choice over what they say. Which makes it that much more reprehensible.

87 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:49:50am

re: #84 000G

Just speaking as a foreigner: It's hard to learn about this if you don't actively seek it out. None of my dictionaries (English or English-German) mentions the racial connotation of the word.

It's one of those words that comes across a lot differently if you say it to or about a black person. Say it to a white guy or gal and there's nothing different about it.

88 elizajane  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:50:07am

re: #74 Amory Blaine

Pregnant woman pepper sprayed in Seattle

Has miscarried

Oh, the Right is going to be all over her. Evidently she was homeless. Therefore she obviously wasn't fit to have a child and it was her fault. In the future, under Christian Sharia, she would probably be jailed for putting her fetus into harm's way.

89 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:50:58am

re: #74 Amory Blaine

Pregnant woman pepper sprayed in Seattle

Has miscarried

*sigh*

Poor souls. So sad.

90 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:51:03am

re: #84 000G

Just speaking as a foreigner: It's hard to learn about this if you don't actively seek it out. None of my dictionaries (English or English-German) mentions the racial connotation of the word.

Yes, this kind of thing is hard to pick up on in a second language.

91 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:51:28am

re: #88 elizajane

Oh, the Right is going to be all over her. Evidently she was homeless. Therefore she obviously wasn't fit to have a child and it was her fault. In the future, under Christian Sharia, she would probably be jailed for putting her fetus into harm's way.

Yeah, some states really want to treat her womb as a crime scene.

92 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:51:47am

re: #84 000G

Just speaking as a foreigner: It's hard to learn about this if you don't actively seek it out. None of my dictionaries (English or English-German) mentions the racial connotation of the word.

That reflects American egalitarianism. Only racial minorities or children are positioned to be 'uppity'.

93 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:53:37am

re: #92 Decatur Deb

That reflect American egalitarianism. Only racial minorities or children are positioned to be 'uppity'.

Well, one specific racial group, anyway.

94 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:53:46am

Not even trying to hide it anymore huh Glenn and Rush. But I know, the left are the real racists right? //

95 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:54:21am
96 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:56:24am

re: #62 albusteve

especially flying out at 2k ft per second from an M-1A

[Video]

It's an M1, early model with the 105mm M68A1 cannon. They have not made a canister or flechette round for the 120mm M256 cannon, alas. Beehive, as it was know, was a very fun round to shoot; not so much to be in the way of :eek:

97 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:57:53am

re: #2 SanFranciscoZionist

The First Lady of the United States cannot be 'uppity'. A person of her social standing can, at worst, be described as 'aloof'.

Which she isn't.

The speakers do not think of her as first lady, they look at first lady and see n*****.

They keep saying this over and over, yet nobody listens.

98 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:57:58am

re: #88 elizajane

Oh, the Right is going to be all over her. Evidently she was homeless. Therefore she obviously wasn't fit to have a child and it was her fault. In the future, under Christian Sharia, she would probably be jailed for putting her fetus into harm's way.

The cop will get a medal and they'll charge her with child abuse.

99 Henchman Ghazi-808  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:58:34am

Let them eat iceberg/carrot/purple cabbage salad

100 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:59:28am

re: #91 JasonA

Yeah, some states really want to treat her womb as a crime scene.

I'm not sure it isn't in some states if the police spraying was criminal over-reach. IRRC, causing a miscarriage, as in an auto crash, can carry criminal or civil penalties--one of the contradictions.

101 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:59:38am

re: #74 Amory Blaine

Pregnant woman pepper sprayed in Seattle

Has miscarried

Put the Seattle PD on trial for murder!

Wait for it. Any minute now...
...crickets...

102 Coracle  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:02:09am

re: #101 Alouette

"Put the Seattle PD on trial for murder!"

Wait for it. Any minute now...
...crickets...

No. They'll want to put her on trial for reckless endangerment, child abuse, and depraved indifference of her fetus by going to the protest.

103 sagehen  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:02:33am

re: #3 SanFranciscoZionist

I think that's what drives these guys nuts. She is totally entitled to be treated like the wife of a head of state, and First Lady. When she is given respect and her opinions are considered important, and fashion magazines analyze her jewelry, this is absolutely how it should be. Or at least, it's traditional.

Not just "a" head of state, head of *THE* state.

For people who believe in American exceptionalism, there's nobody on the entire planet who outranks the President of the United States. Nobody at all.

104 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:03:18am

re: #74 Amory Blaine

Pregnant woman pepper sprayed in Seattle

Has miscarried

Video of her right after the incident:

105 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:05:07am

A trust fund baby huh?

106 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:05:54am

re: #105 Amory Blaine

A trust fund baby huh?

Trust fund baby Marxist.
/

107 sagehen  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:06:09am

re: #17 EmmmieG

What is arugula? I know that caviar is actually sturgeon roe, which is why I would never touch it, but what is arugula?

Weird creepy fake lettuce. (iceberg and romaine are the only real lettuce... and I don't even like romaine.)

108 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:11:26am

re: #84 000G

Just speaking as a foreigner: It's hard to learn about this if you don't actively seek it out. None of my dictionaries (English or English-German) mentions the racial connotation of the word.

Well, yes, but Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck are both native English speakers, and so should know.

109 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:13:15am

re: #105 Amory Blaine

A trust fund baby huh?

re: #106 makeitstop

Trust fund baby Marxist.
/

Who stabs and rapes because they are violent!

110 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:13:42am

re: #108 EmmmieG

Native American English. I am sure a lot of British or Australian English speakers also don't know. Which might explain the deficiency of my dictionaries, which are predominantly British.

111 funky chicken  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:20:54am

re: #11 webevintage

This is not going to be another one of those times where these assholes spew their racist bullshit and then go on the defensive claiming they had no idea "calling a black person uppity (or picturing them with watermelon, or as a African witchdoctor or as a monkey sitting on a porch) was just good old fashion racism instead of satirical humor at its finest" is it?

Let's see if Herman Cain comes out in their defense.

Hopefully they both have finally lost their last few minority fans.

112 funky chicken  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:21:48am

re: #92 Decatur Deb

That reflect American egalitarianism. Only racial minorities or children are positioned to be 'uppity'.

Or women. I've heard it about feminists and blacks.

113 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:35:14am

re: #84 000G

Just speaking as a foreigner: It's hard to learn about this if you don't actively seek it out. None of my dictionaries (English or English-German) mentions the racial connotation of the word.

Have you found where it was used to label Clinton, Gore, or Kerry. Hell, Kerry was the one they really like to make out as if he was just this East coast elitist, when did they use the term "uppity" on him? On any of the wives of these people? Why did the term just happen to come up with Obama?

If you can find any examples of it being used for any other Pres or first lady please point it out to me. Thx.

114 dragonfire1981  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:38:14am

This is the same man who was recently praised by the Prime Minister of Israel.

115 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:42:58am

re: #113 RayFerd

If you can find any examples of it being used for any other Pres or first lady please point it out to me. Thx.

Dunno if this was supposed to be snark directed at me, I was just explaining the cognitive conundrum foreigners find themselves in because they usually lack historical and cultural contextual knowledge that dictionaries fail to supply.

116 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:44:15am

re: #112 funky chicken

Or women. I've heard it about feminists and blacks.

That would work where women actually were expected to hold to a visibly subservient role. My wife can be a PIA, can't be uppity.

117 Stephen T.  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:44:24am

re: #4 EmmmieG

I am not sure I understand what uppity means.

I believe that is the reason why Rush chose to use the word "uppity". it has both the meaning to describe blacks who refuse to bow and scrape to whites hidden behind the more common meaning of "stuck up." or "snooty."

He gets to show off his racism while still claiming to not be racist.

118 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 10:52:08am

re: #115 000G

Dunno if this was supposed to be snark directed at me, I was just explaining the cognitive conundrum foreigners find themselves in because they usually lack historical and cultural contextual knowledge that dictionaries fail to supply.

Sorry, not directed at you. Yours just happened to be the last comment I was reading when the thought came to my head about it ever being used for any previous white Pres or first lady.

119 Mar  Wed, Nov 23, 2011 7:33:05am

Very skeptical on the miscarriage from pepper spray.

Pepper spray burns your eyes and causes the nose to flow like a fountain but there is no medical reason it would cause a miscarriage.

120 Mar  Wed, Nov 23, 2011 7:36:28am

Wow, did you people even read the whole story? It states towards the end that her story is dubious, changed frequently and that she was not able to provide any proof of it.

121 Interesting Times  Wed, Nov 23, 2011 8:02:03am

Pregnant Woman Blasted with Pepper Spray by SPD Says She Miscarried (Updated)

UPDATE on Nov. 22 at 3:47 PM: ... While sources in general should be given the benefit of the doubt—even if they are homeless women—and there is no evidence that Fox isn't being entirety forthright, her story looks increasingly dubious.

Note the update was added several hours after Amory Blaine first posted this article. Hard to "read the whole story" in such a case unless one is capable of time travel. Another update states the Seattle Police Department is investigating the matter, though "no formal complaint has been made".

In any case, the sickening right-wing reaction to the story remains all too real.

122 Varanus  Wed, Nov 23, 2011 1:02:51pm

I'm just gonna throw this out there...

If a person who was for all intents and purposes neutral in the political debate described Mrs. Obama as "Uppity", and we could reasonably expect that person to both have planned their statement (i.e. the use was not an accident or slip of tongue) as well as have a clear knowledge of the racist undertones of the word, would the reaction been the same?

I think we are calling it out because the bias we put on Rush. We think he is a racist so therefore he meant "uppity" as a racist slur. If we asked Rush "why did you use that word", absolutely no answer would get him out of our first assumption. If Mr. John Doe had made the same statement, we would accept any explanation and settle with it. You say, well yes, Rush is a racist.

Why bother posting that Rush said A B or C at all? Just have a running article every day "Sun Rises, Rush is a racist".

123 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 23, 2011 1:21:27pm

re: #122 Varanus

If a person who was for all intents and purposes neutral in the political debate described Mrs. Obama as "Uppity"...

Why would someone who is neutral do something like that?

I think we are calling it out because the bias we put on Rush.

Who is "we"?


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