GOP Debates Continue Tormenting Nation
Oh yeah, right … mumble mumble … another $@^&*% debate … right … OK, here’s a thread … mumble mumble …
Oh yeah, right … mumble mumble … another $@^&*% debate … right … OK, here’s a thread … mumble mumble …
2 | Meitantei Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:55:53pm |
Is it just me, or has Bachmann been kinda sorta not totally moronic tonight?
3 | Stanghazi Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:56:12pm |
Brought to you by the Alcoholic Beverage Society of AMERICA FUCK YEAH!
4 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:56:12pm |
The last thing Newt said was actually not ... awful
I feel dirty.
5 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:56:29pm |
6 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:56:37pm |
Drill rig use goes up with oil prices.
Um... Michelle... Obama tried to duck the Keystone question and put his decision on hold.
8 | Altermite Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:56:46pm |
On the other hand, SNL and comedy central are usually great after these.
10 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:57:09pm |
I haven't watched any of the debates and I'm not watching this one. Lizards, entertain me!!!!:)
11 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:57:41pm |
Africa was a country on the brink, Rick?
12 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:57:54pm |
Bachmann: "Obama met with Iran with no preconditions..." WTF! When did that happen?
13 | Meitantei Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:58:08pm |
re: #10 Cannadian Club Akbar
You could watch the debate for me, and I play Skyrim. Deal?
15 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:58:08pm |
Uwh .. Michelle..
Ahmadinejad does not control the Iranian nuclear power programme, or the country's foreign policy.
AND SHE IS ON THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE!
16 | engineer cat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:58:12pm |
Paul Wolfowitz
one of the Most Notoriously Wrong advisors any american administration ever had
17 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:58:36pm |
Santorum - "Africa was a country on the brink"
18 | Altermite Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:58:38pm |
re: #4 HAL2010
Santorum said something nice and intelligent. Now I feel dirty.
19 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:59:04pm |
re: #16 engineer dog
Paul Wolfowitz
one of the Most Notoriously Wrong advisors any american administration ever had
Heh. And they call him a "scholar."
20 | Iwouldprefernotto Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:59:14pm |
Not enough alcohol/drugs in the world to watch this debate.
23 | Altermite Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:59:37pm |
Scratch the intelligence. I didn't hear the 'africa is a country' bit. Still a nice thing to say.
24 | celticdragon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:59:48pm |
re: #12 Charles
Bachmann: "Obama met with Iran with no preconditions..." WTF! When did that happen?
Just before her last thorazine shot.
25 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:59:48pm |
re: #18 Altermite
He knows how to tow the line of the thinking people, when he wants to.
26 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 5:59:48pm |
re: #20 Iwouldprefernotto
Not enough alcohol/drugs in the world to watch this debate.
Well, I would prefer not to...
28 | Meitantei Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:00:05pm |
Oh, Paul, now go away and take your crazy supporters with you. Foreign aid is barely anything.
And now he rants against Libya. God, why did I support this tool four years ago?
29 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:00:26pm |
re: #18 Altermite
Santorum said something nice and intelligent. Now I feel dirty.
Just imagine Santorum with a Santorum!
...
Oh dear god ..
30 | Kragar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:00:26pm |
Another debate?
Whats to debate anyways? It seems like the only point of contention is they have is who really had God tell them to run?
32 | recusancy Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:00:59pm |
Romney brings up Obamacare. The balls on that guy...
33 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:01:04pm |
re: #28 Meitantei
Oh, Paul, now go away and take your crazy supporters with you. Foreign aid is barely anything.
And now he rants against Libya. God, why did I support this tool four years ago?
It was just a phase.
34 | celticdragon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:01:20pm |
re: #14 Decatur Deb
Do all Repubs call Africa a country?
They can't tell any of them apart, you know...
//!!!//
35 | Stanghazi Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:01:23pm |
re: #30 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Another debate?
Whats to debate anyways? It seems like the only point of contention is they have is who really had God tell them to run?
NO, this is the foreign policy debate. God out the window.
36 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:01:30pm |
37 | Altermite Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:01:47pm |
38 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:01:52pm |
re: #18 Altermite
Santorum said something nice and intelligent. Now I feel dirty.
It's the effect of pandering -- the other night we sob for Jesus, tonight we pander to AEI by trying to sound a little wonky. All these tv debates have shown just how much a change in venue also changes the "character" of a politician.
41 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:02:24pm |
I love it. Michele Bachmann totally made up a meeting between Obama and Iran that never happened.
42 | Meitantei Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:02:27pm |
...................wait, so what genocide has Iran been committing these days again?
43 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:02:31pm |
44 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:02:40pm |
45 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:02:49pm |
Mitt: Indict Ahmadenajad for violating the Genocide Convention.
What the freaking fuck?
46 | Romantic Heretic Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:02:59pm |
re: #12 Charles
Bachmann: "Obama met with Iran with no preconditions..." WTF! When did that happen?
When she said it happened. It's not like the 'base' knows enough to know this is a lie.
48 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:03:16pm |
re: #41 Charles
She makes up a lot of stuff, like oil supplies, and gasoline supplies. Totally out of the void.
49 | Altermite Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:03:17pm |
Romney just blew out all his speaking points all at once.
Time for some P.E. jokes.
50 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:03:22pm |
re: #45 darthstar
Mitt: Indict Ahmadenajad for violating the Genocide Convention.
What the freaking fuck?
Oh just make shit up. It doesn't matter anymore.
51 | Kragar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:03:29pm |
re: #45 darthstar
Mitt: Indict Ahmadenajad for violating the Genocide Convention.
What the freaking fuck?
Those words make sense, but not when used together like that.
52 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:03:36pm |
re: #41 Charles
I love it. Michele Bachmann totally made up a meeting between Obama and Iran that never happened.
The only possible explanation is that she's one of those Precogs from Minority Report. He will have a meeting.
53 | Stanghazi Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:03:38pm |
re: #41 Charles
I love it. Michele Bachmann totally made up a meeting between Obama and Iran that never happened.
facts schmacts. dont matter anymore. craven.
54 | Meitantei Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:03:39pm |
re: #45 darthstar
I frankly admit I don't like international law at all, and using it against Dinner jacket is just going to invite the rest of the world to use it on us. And I'll never accept it.
55 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:03:48pm |
re: #47 Major Tom
Romney's not sure what he just said.
He's just getting in touch with his inner Perry...the "Genocide Convention" is going to stick in his craw for the rest of the debate.
56 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:04:09pm |
Gingrich scanning the crowd for potential future wives.
57 | celticdragon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:04:17pm |
re: #41 Charles
I love it. Michele Bachmann totally made up a meeting between Obama and Iran that never happened.
It will instantly become part of the wingnut fact base, just like the time when we "sent half of the US Navy to India".
58 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:04:23pm |
re: #55 darthstar
He's just getting in touch with his inner Perry...the "Genocide Convention" is going to stick in his craw for the rest of the debate.
Oops.
59 | Iwouldprefernotto Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:04:33pm |
Am I the only person who thinks Ron Paul is too old to be president? (not to mention his crazy ideas).
60 | prairiefire Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:04:33pm |
re: #43 Decatur Deb
They're the only ones who are all there.
The brainiest girls at the ball are always under appreciated by the fickle youths.
62 | Kragar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:04:46pm |
re: #50 JasonA
Oh just make shit up. It doesn't matter anymore.
Works for Bachmann, Cain, and Newt. Mitt might as well give it a shot.
63 | Altermite Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:05:05pm |
Gingrich pretends to be a DC outsider. Twilight zone shit right now.
64 | engineer cat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:05:05pm |
i had no idea that the "audience" would consist exclusively of overpaid self important morons with letters after their names
65 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:05:06pm |
Ummm... Newt, Navy ships stay in service for up to half a century. Anyone involved in defense systems know why it takes 10 years to develop new systems.
66 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:05:08pm |
"If we were serious" we'd open up the oil fields.
Yes, but capitalist oil companies will need to build the refineries which will take ten years.
Production is nothing without refining. Grrr.
67 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:05:12pm |
re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Works for Bachmann, Cain, and Newt. Mitt might as well give it a shot.
I guess you didn't see his new campaign ad...
68 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:05:22pm |
Six Sigma - Newt heard a cliche business buzzword and wrote it down. "This'll come in handy."
69 | celticdragon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:05:34pm |
re: #56 jaunte
Gingrich scanning the crowd for potential future wives.
The redhead 30 year old in the second row got his eye...
70 | Meitantei Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:05:34pm |
re: #59 Iwouldprefernotto
Guy is a doctor, and I know he is a big exercise freak. So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
71 | BongCrodny Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:05:48pm |
Look, CNN, I don't know what an Octoshape Grid Delivery Enhancement is, but the freaking name scares the hell out of me. Unless you give it a more user-friendly name I ain't gonna install it.
72 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:05:50pm |
re: #64 engineer dog
i had no idea that the "audience" would consist exclusively of overpaid self important morons with letters after their names
Not at all...36% of them are military lobbyists too.
73 | Kragar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:05:56pm |
74 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:06:13pm |
As a British national, I am always so proud whenever we are rightly called the United States greatest ally.
If it's not being the second largest presence in Afghanistan, working the US on Libya, off the coast of Somalia or coordinating Intelligence in Pakistan, I always feel proud that the two greatest countries can work together so successfully.
...
Yeah, thanks for that shout-out GOP.
75 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:06:21pm |
Newt just said Israel could blackmail him into a conventional invasion of Iran by threatening to go nuke.
76 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:06:25pm |
re: #64 engineer dog
i had no idea that the "audience" would consist exclusively of overpaid self important morons with letters after their names
I have letters for AEI $ Heritage - STFU and GTFO
77 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:06:33pm |
This whole thing about "opening oil fields" that Newt goes on about is just idiotic. There are no, none, nada, known oil deposits in the US that can make up the 10 million bbl / day production that we need.
78 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:06:53pm |
So this "debate" is a bunch of right wing Republicans being asked easy questions by right wing think tanks. Pathetic.
79 | recusancy Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:06:58pm |
re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Works for Bachmann, Cain, and Newt. Mitt might as well give it a shot.
Umm... He does plenty of making shit up.
80 | Meitantei Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:07:00pm |
83 | celticdragon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:07:24pm |
re: #71 BongCrodny
Look, CNN, I don't know what an Octoshape Grid Delivery Enhancement is, but the freaking name scares the hell out of me. Unless you give it a more user-friendly name I ain't gonna install it.
Is that what Octomom used in the delivery room?
84 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:07:42pm |
re: #78 Charles
So this "debate" is a bunch of right wing Republicans being asked easy questions by right wing think tanks. Pathetic.
And no follow ups, no tough questions.
No one has mentioned a single specific thing that Obama has done wrong.
85 | Kragar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:07:54pm |
re: #79 recusancy
Umm... He does plenty of making shit up.
There is basic bullshit, and then there is batshit insane crap.
86 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:08:15pm |
re: #78 Charles
So this "debate" is a bunch of right wing Republicans being asked easy questions by right wing think tanks. Pathetic.
How great is Israel?
How bad is Iran?
How much more do we need to spend on defence?
Very
Very
A lot
End.
87 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:08:21pm |
Wolf, you need to define "compromise" for this bunch.
88 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:08:36pm |
re: #65 freetoken
Anyone involved in defense systems know why it takes 10 years to develop new systems.
89 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:09:06pm |
re: #80 Meitantei
All you do is provide tea, and Monty Python. Like we need you.
///
Exactly.
Seriously, as a strategic ally what has Israel provided to the United States?
I say this as a great supporter of Israel. It's the whole "best ally ever" pitch that I do not understand.
91 | OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:09:45pm |
I can't stomach one more minute of that BS.
And yet I can't look away....
92 | recusancy Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:09:50pm |
re: #90 mracb
He signed 6 balanced budgets, all by himself.
He has to. He's a governor. States can't run deficits.
93 | Robert O. Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:10:21pm |
Okay. I have to admit I am not watching any of these debates until the actual Presidential debates begin between President Obama and whoever is the Republican nominee.
However, just out of curiosity, did anyone ask Gingrich for further explanation of child labor? Or is the GOP already talking about revoking the 13th Amendment? (To be followed by all the other Amendments except for the 2nd)
94 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:10:38pm |
Perry does not control the national guard of Texas.
Old canard, busted when Palin said the same thing.
95 | celticdragon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:10:49pm |
re: #78 Charles
So this "debate" is a bunch of right wing Republicans being asked easy questions by right wing think tanks. Pathetic.
I can remember when the GOP stood on the shoulders of Casper Weinberger, Lawrence Eagleburger, Alexander Haig and Henry Kissenger.
This is all they have left?
Face/palm
96 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:10:49pm |
Perry is good at making up successful imaginary executive action.
97 | Meitantei Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:10:51pm |
re: #89 HAL2010
It's really the religious factor by Christian nutjobs, in the end. We may like the British, but you guys aren't the sign of the End Times, so you aren't valuable.
At least.... I think you guys aren't the sign of the End Times.
98 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:11:18pm |
re: #84 HAL2010
And no follow ups, no tough questions.
No one has mentioned a single specific thing that Obama has done wrong.
Wolf did just lob a hardball, bring up the candidates' previous stated opposition to any tax increase.
Perry responds by pushing his "make Congress part-time" plan.
99 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:11:36pm |
re: #97 Meitantei
At least... I think you guys aren't the sign of the End Times.
Have you tried their food?
100 | JAFO Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:11:40pm |
Yes Rick, because 10 years of tax cuts has worked out so well.
101 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:11:44pm |
The damn CNN stream keeps wanting to cut out... then I have to start the embedded Flash... just to have to watch a stupid commercial again.
Gah, Flash, curse of the internet.
102 | Locker Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:11:53pm |
Rick Santorum and Herman Cain both called for extra scrutiny for people who fit the profile of terrorists. Great so that means we are looking for older, white males carrying a copy of any book by Savage/Beck/Limbaugh/Coulter with special attention paid to anyone who publicly uses the word anti-christ.
103 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:12:06pm |
re: #59 Iwouldprefernotto
Am I the only person who thinks Ron Paul is too old to be president? (not to mention his crazy ideas).
He's old, but feisty. If I liked him, I would say, pick a real strong VP and go for it.
105 | Atlas Fails Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:12:30pm |
Frothy math: revenue increases=larger deficit
106 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:12:30pm |
Shot of Michele: "How can I say something crazier than Santorum?"
107 | engineer cat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:12:32pm |
re: #90 mracb
He signed 6 balanced budgets, all by himself.
ok, now lets see you do it without the socialist federal aid
108 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:13:01pm |
re: #97 Meitantei
It's really the religious factor by Christian nutjobs, in the end. We may like the British, but you guys aren't the sign of the End Times, so you aren't valuable.
At least... I think you guys aren't the sign of the End Times.
So when will the moderators mention this?
I am aware of the religious rights insane reason for their "support" of Israel as a means to bring about the end times, so I would hope that Blitzer would have the balls to mention it.
109 | celticdragon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:13:03pm |
re: #100 mracb
Yes Rick, because 10 years of tax cuts has worked out so well.
They will always work just like Green Lantern's ring. You just have to have enough will power....
//
110 | BongCrodny Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:13:12pm |
Hey, it's multi-millionaire serial philanderer Newt Gingrich!
Thanks, Charles.
111 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:13:25pm |
At the age of 14, the questioner's favorite book was Atlas Shrugged.
112 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:13:26pm |
Santorum is outraged at the idea of political campaigning! It disgusts him! He can't imagine the kind of scumbag that would stoop so low!
113 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:14:23pm |
Question on Entitlement Reform and what the candidates would propose.
Gingrich talks Social Security reform. He's doing fairly well, and praising the Social Security system used in Chile.
114 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:14:37pm |
re: #78 Charles
So this "debate" is a bunch of right wing Republicans being asked easy questions by right wing think tanks. Pathetic.
And STILL they manage to fuck it up.
(Newt was right..this is a debate like no other...the others weren't stacked like this)
115 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:14:45pm |
If can look at Chile as an exemplar for Social Security, can we look at Britain as one for healthcare?
116 | celticdragon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:15:14pm |
re: #102 Locker
Rick Santorum and Herman Cain both called for extra scrutiny for people who fit the profile of terrorists. Great so that means we are looking for older, white males carrying a copy of any book by Savage/Beck/Limbaugh/Coulter with special attention paid to anyone who publicly uses the word anti-christ.
117 | engineer cat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:15:19pm |
again with the failed chile model again as the way to go
the government of chile was embarrassed to find out that letting people bet their retirement money on the stock market led to broke retirees
118 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:15:29pm |
re: #100 mracb
Yes Rick, because 10 years of tax cuts has worked out so well.
Stephen Colbert: "We rich people are like a slot machine. You've gotta keep pumping quarters into us. We're bound to pay off soon. Don't quit now, you've got us all warmed up."
119 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:15:33pm |
re: #113 Dark_Falcon
Question on Entitlement Reform and what the candidates would propose.
Gingrich talks Social Security reform. He's doing fairly well, and praising the Social Security system used in Chile.
To be fair, after Pinochet there were a lot fewer people to be insured.
120 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:15:44pm |
re: #115 JasonA
If can look at Chile as an exemplar for Social Security, can we look at Britain as one for healthcare?
Eh no. Please don't. It's not that good. Look at the French or German systems if you have to.
122 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:16:42pm |
re: #120 HAL2010
Eh no. Please don't. It's not that good. Look at the French or German systems if you have to.
It was a trick question. You failed!
123 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:16:50pm |
CHINA!!CHINA!!CHINA!!CHINA!!CHINA!!CHINA!!CHINA!!CHINA!!
Be afraid, be very afraid.
124 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:16:59pm |
Do we put in the Chilean model after or before the Air Force rockets the White House?
125 | Robert O. Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:17:12pm |
I second all the other comments about "Israel = Greatest ally" being grossly offensive. Yes, I strongly support Israel's right to exist in peace with its neighbors. Yes, I believe the US has a duty to protect Israel. But "greatest ally"? That is an insult to the British, Australians and Canadians who have laid down their lives fighting on the same said of nearly every war the US finds itself - in wars that may often be widely seen as unjustified in which they are often our ONLY allies!
126 | Meitantei Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:17:12pm |
re: #120 HAL2010
I thought all you Europeans complained about your respective NHS and liked the ones of the other countries?
127 | celticdragon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:17:23pm |
re: #111 jaunte
At the age of 14, the questioner's favorite book was Atlas Shrugged.
I recall reading something from a divinity student that if you took the Satanic Bible and cut out the references to the devil, you would end up with a pretty good description of Ayn Rand Objectivist philosophy.
128 | Stanghazi Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:17:23pm |
Again, anyone remember how I can tweet one of your comments?
131 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:18:15pm |
I think Blitzer is fucking with us, he just said "stay with us for more though questions ...."
Oh Blitzer, how you jest!
132 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:18:32pm |
I presume Perry would support the Texas Chile model...
133 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:18:44pm |
re: #123 freetoken
"After the break, we'll find out how China threatens our southern border."
134 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:18:44pm |
re: #120 HAL2010
Eh no. Please don't. It's not that good. Look at the French or German systems if you have to.
Not having this discussion again.
But - the British system has always been fine by me and my family, with the only issues we have had being the same faced by patients in every system.
135 | Romantic Heretic Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:19:02pm |
re: #111 jaunte
At the age of 14, the questioner's favorite book was Atlas Shrugged.
Now remembering this little piece of humour.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
Makes me laugh every time.
136 | Altermite Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:19:05pm |
On an unrelated note, anyone know what kind of dog this is?
137 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:19:55pm |
Wolf Blitzer...still has that 700 Club feel to him after all these years.
138 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:20:05pm |
139 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:20:17pm |
They are such a myopic group. I think Huntsman has been the only person so far to mention "friends" and "allies".
The others are part of the US against THE WORLD mind-trap.
140 | engineer cat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:20:29pm |
The Chilean experience with social security privatization gives much reason for pause. Major concerns include: the high cost of transition to a privatized system, exorbitant pension fund management fees, non-participation in the scheme, the effects on low/middle-income workers and women, and the vulnerability of workers to market risk.
just for starters
141 | ProMayaLiberal Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:20:29pm |
re: #138 Charleston Chew
That, and a mutt.
142 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:20:29pm |
re: #134 wozzablog
Not having this discussion again.
But - the British system has always been fine by me and my family, with the only issues we have had being the same faced by patients in every system.
The quality of the service is ok by European standards, the waiting lists are a joke and people die by entering dirty hospitals.
It is not a model to emulate. Hell, the Swedish one is far better.
143 | celticdragon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:20:29pm |
re: #130 Major Tom
Bachmann Dystopia 2012
Great concept for a sci fi Japanese animai movie. Just add cool robot drones with gatling guns and hot chicks with Glock forties.
144 | Stanghazi Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:20:29pm |
I want someone to talk about privatization/investing in the market that the GOP is crashing. No one will do it, and these lame ass "reporters" will never call them on it, now, when it matters.
145 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:20:41pm |
Blitzer shows a live shot of Tahir Square. Anyone care to come up with a caption for that?
146 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:20:53pm |
147 | OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:21:09pm |
re: #111 jaunte
I just don't believe it. I tried to read that monstrosity, and didn't make it to pg 100 -- at 34.
Now i use it as a door stop.
148 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:21:18pm |
re: #136 Altermite
On an unrelated note, anyone know what kind of dog this is?
Yes. A white and brown one.
149 | JAFO Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:21:27pm |
re: #136 Altermite
On an unrelated note, anyone know what kind of dog this is?
looks a bit like mine, mine is a rhodesian lab mix, and she's 85 lbs.
150 | celticdragon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:21:38pm |
151 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:22:03pm |
re: #132 oaktree
I presume Perry would support the Texas Chile model...
Would that be piloted through the RISTRA program?
152 | BongCrodny Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:22:42pm |
Question received via e-mail: "If you were President, which candidate on stage would you make your Sec. of Defense and why?"
I would make Mitt Romney my Secretary of Defense, because he's always on de fence.
153 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:22:50pm |
re: #142 HAL2010
The quality of the service is ok by European standards, the waiting lists are a joke and people die by entering dirty hospitals.
It is not a model to emulate. Hell, the Swedish one is far better.
The management is horrific - but but the "single payer treatment for all" ideal is not at fault for the short comings.
155 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:22:50pm |
I wonder how Gingrich would do on one of those psych tests by which they can detect sociopathy. Newt's ability to deceive seems to come so naturally that it is scary.
156 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:23:08pm |
re: #31 Stanley Sea
I'm trying.
I'm sorry I just have way too much good music at my disposal to listen to this farce :D
157 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:23:21pm |
re: #144 Stanley Sea
I want someone to talk about privatization/investing in the market that the GOP is crashing. No one will do it, and these lame ass "reporters" will never call them on it, now, when it matters.
The GOP isn't crashing it. That's just partisan BS from the Dems.
158 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:23:31pm |
159 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:23:38pm |
re: #145 Dark_Falcon
Blitzer shows a live shot of Tahir Square. Anyone care to come up with a caption for that?
"It could happen in Baltimore."
160 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:23:58pm |
Oh, wow...another average American - the EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE MOTHERFUCKING HERITAGE FOUNDATION! Fuck you, CNN. Heritage could afford to fill the Superdome with plants like this.
162 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:24:35pm |
re: #160 darthstar
Oh, wow...another average American - the EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE MOTHERFUCKING HERITAGE FOUNDATION! Fuck you, CNN. Heritage could afford to fill the Superdome with plants like this.
This entire debate is a plant.
164 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:24:52pm |
re: #154 darthstar
CNN airs an anti-EPA ad. Fuckers.
It's a business, not a church. The days of Edward R. Murrow are long gone. TV news networks exist to turn a profit, so you give the audience for a particular program what they want.
165 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:24:53pm |
re: #145 Dark_Falcon
Blitzer shows a live shot of Tahir Square. Anyone care to come up with a caption for that?
I'll bet there are good deals on rugs.
166 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:24:59pm |
re: #160 darthstar
Oh, wow...another average American - the EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE MOTHERFUCKING HERITAGE FOUNDATION! Fuck you, CNN. Heritage could afford to fill the Superdome with plants like this.
It turns out the game is always rigged, always :D
I'm gonna go play guitar now, at least that's something I have control over
167 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:25:00pm |
re: #157 Dark_Falcon
The GOP isn't crashing it. That's just partisan BS from the Dems.
How's your 201(k)?
168 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:25:23pm |
re: #140 engineer dog
The Chilean experience with social security privatization gives much reason for pause. Major concerns include: the high cost of transition to a privatized system, exorbitant pension fund management fees, non-participation in the scheme, the effects on low/middle-income workers and women, and the vulnerability of workers to market risk.
just for starters
The first two look like a blank check for the financial institutions who get their hands on the funds the federal govt will collect for them. And recent history has shown that they appear to not care much about the other two items on the list.
169 | Stanghazi Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:25:26pm |
.re: #157 Dark_Falcon
The GOP isn't crashing it. That's just partisan BS from the Dems.
Says Mr. GOP
170 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:25:28pm |
171 | BongCrodny Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:25:40pm |
re: #160 darthstar
Oh, wow...another average American - the EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE MOTHERFUCKING HERITAGE FOUNDATION! Fuck you, CNN. Heritage could afford to fill the Superdome with plants like this.
It's a sea of white out there.
172 | Meitantei Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:26:02pm |
The thing about the Drug War is that while I can understand legalizing marijuana, a lot of the anti-Drug Wars people seem to think legalizing cocaine, heroin, and that stuff is perfectly fine because OMG FREE MARKET! And those things should remain banned.
173 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:26:15pm |
174 | celticdragon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:26:18pm |
re: #161 JasonA
Monroe Doctrine? Really?
Making South America safe for US sugar and fruit companies for one hundred years!
176 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:26:32pm |
re: #167 Decatur Deb
How's your 201(k)?
I don't have one. Don't ask more out of me on that sort of topic.
177 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:26:36pm |
re: #164 Dark_Falcon
It's a business, not a church. The days of Edward R. Murrow are long gone. TV news networks exist to turn a profit, so you give the audience for a particular program what they want.
I'll take that defense to mean that you aren't offended by an ad calling for the EPA to be gutted.
179 | Romantic Heretic Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:26:49pm |
re: #153 wozzablog
The management is horrific - but but the "single payer treatment for all" ideal is not at fault for the short comings.
We have a single payer system here in Canada and I've never had any problems with it. Always there when I need it and good service as well.
180 | engineer cat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:27:18pm |
Chile’s Social Security failure
Privatization by bayonet
Margarita Espinosa, a clerk at a Santiago public hospital, had to open a private investment account to save for her retire- ment after Chile's military government privatized social security in the Andean country nearly 25 years ago. “The old system was much better in my opinion,” Espinosa said. “I had no choice. I had to be in the new system.”
As governments dismantle their public pension systems worldwide, retirees who are struggling to get by with shriveled benefits have a South American military dictator to thank.
Without having to worry about democratic debate, Gen. Augusto Pinochet of Chile pioneered the global movement to privatize social security nearly 25 years ago when his military regime imposed a retirement system based on individual investment accounts.
President Bush speaks glowingly about the Chilean experience as he campaigns to turn the Social Security system in the United States into private accounts. But for Americans considering whether to replace their guaranteed, inflation-proof Social Security retirement benefits with accounts subject to the uncertainties of the stock market, the checkered record of Chile’s private accounts is a danger sign.
“The changes in Social Security there have hurt many people I know, including my parents, relatives and friends,” said Juan Fernández, president of Amalgamated Professional Employees Local 154, a native of Chile.
With personal knowledge of the harm that privatization has done to working people in Chile, Fernández is alarmed about Bush’s plan to take a lesson from Pinochet, whose government slaughtered and tortured thousands of political opponents and other innocent
...
Plunged into poverty
Today, workers need $20,000 in their accounts to get the minimum pension — now about $100 a month. Most individual accounts only have $5,000, according to the Santiago-based Economy of Work Program (PET).
Dagoberto Saez, a 66-year-old worker in Santiago, told the New York Times earlier this year that he expected his monthly income to drop from the $950 salary he received as a laboratory technician to $315 from his private account when he retired in March.
“Colleagues and friends with the same pay grade who stayed in the old system, people who work right alongside me, are retiring with pensions of almost $700 a month until they die,” he said. “I have a salary that allows me to live with dignity, and all of a sudden I am going to be plunged into poverty, all because I made the mistake of believing the promises they made to us back in 1981.”
Originally, the Chilean government claimed that with private accounts, workers’ retirement benefits would be 70 percent of their salary. In fact, studies show they will get only 40 percent. “The earnings are insufficient to provide people with a dignified pension,” PET Director Carmen Espinoza told PEP.
this article was written before 2008, when the financial crisis dropped the bottom out of what was left of chile's social security privitization scheme
181 | goddamnedfrank Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:27:18pm |
re: #157 Dark_Falcon
The GOP isn't crashing it. That's just partisan BS from the Dems.
Did you read the S&P's report? They name Congressional Republicans as the reason for the downgrade.
182 | Meitantei Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:27:28pm |
I had a kidney stone in Japan, and the medical system was great. A lot better than in the US.
183 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:27:47pm |
re: #153 wozzablog
The management is horrific - but but the "single payer treatment for all" ideal is not at fault for the short comings.
Well I disagree.
NICE is to a large extent actually a "death panel" to many in England with cancer.
Like I said, the French and German systems are better, and less centralized.
184 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:27:54pm |
Perry looking at Paul as Paul mentions alcohol is a deadly drug... priceless.
185 | Altermite Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:27:55pm |
186 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:27:58pm |
How many flipping debates are there going to be?
At what point to they become Masterdebaters?
Why can't they stop? What fucking ideas are coming out of debate number 467 that we couldn't have heard of by debate... say 3?
Must be some serious frickin' money in these debates.
187 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:28:19pm |
re: #179 Romantic Heretic
We have a single payer system here in Canada and I've never had any problems with it. Always there when I need it and good service as well.
I'm from the US and I also have single payer healthcare. Unfortunately, it's me.
188 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:28:34pm |
Cain: "We know that terrorists have come into this country by way of Mexico." We do?
189 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:28:35pm |
re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How many flipping debates are there going to be?
At what point to they become Masterdebaters?
Why can't they stop. What fucking ideas are coming out of debate number 467 that we couldn't have heard of by debate... say 3?
Must be some serious frickin' money in these debates.
I think there are 11 left...
190 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:28:37pm |
re: #176 Dark_Falcon
Hey, you sell seats to defense contractor conventions...this debate has to be giving you a raging fuckin' hard-on right now. Enjoy!
191 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:28:51pm |
re: #188 Charles
Cain: "We know that terrorists have come into this country by way of Mexico." We do?
He said it. It must be so.
192 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:28:54pm |
re: #171 BongCrodny
Don't be hatin'. I'm a white guy.
193 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:29:05pm |
re: #177 darthstar
I'll take that defense to mean that you aren't offended by an ad calling for the EPA to be gutted.
No, I'm not. It's virtually impossible to offend me with a TV ad.
Cain talks of a "path to citizenship". Interesting, and not really surprising from a business figure like him.
194 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:29:10pm |
re: #188 Charles
Cain: "We know that terrorists have come into this country by way of Mexico." We do?
Well, just look at 'em!
//
195 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:29:12pm |
re: #188 Charles
Cain: "We know that terrorists have come into this country by way of Mexico." We do?
Illegals, terrorists .. meh
*shrugs*
196 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:29:51pm |
re: #189 JasonA
I think there are 11 left...
I looked at the schedule a while back and counted 26 in total.
198 | prairiefire Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:30:27pm |
re: #136 Altermite
On an unrelated note, anyone know what kind of dog this is?
Maybe Boxer and Pit Bull?
199 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:30:38pm |
200 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:30:54pm |
re: #197 jaunte
Santorum will restore the trickle.
That might be the dirtiest thing you can say on LGF without getting the comment deleted.
201 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:31:04pm |
re: #188 Charles
Cain: "We know that terrorists have come into this country by way of Mexico." We do?
Yes. Remember the Farsi-tattooed guys in jail in California? The ones who get away with it because prison guards in California have no idea what a Mexican accent is supposed to sound like?
//
202 | BongCrodny Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:31:08pm |
re: #192 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Don't be hatin'. I'm a white guy.
Me, too. I have to spend hours in the sun just to get to white.
Not hatin', just observin'.
203 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:31:23pm |
204 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:31:40pm |
re: #190 darthstar
Hey, you sell seats to defense contractor conventions...this debate has to be giving you a raging fuckin' hard-on right now. Enjoy!
Most of the seats I sell are to DoD personnel. Solution providers actually are a minority at the events I work on. Get your facts straight!
205 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:31:46pm |
Umm... Newt, Einstein was fleeing Nazi Germany.
207 | zora Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:31:53pm |
re: #188 Charles
Cain: "We know that terrorists have come into this country by way of Mexico." We do?
it's a conservative talk radio secret. if cain gets elected, he will tell all.
209 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:32:10pm |
I think if I look at this through the hard core GOP lens Newt's come off pretty well tonight.
210 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:32:19pm |
Gingrich has to be a serious sociopath. No one else could lie so easily.
211 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:32:21pm |
re: #206 Charleston Chew
He just wanted to say Einstein while he was on camera.
212 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:32:25pm |
re: #204 Dark_Falcon
Most of the seats I sell are to DoD personnel. Solution providers actually are a minority at the events I work on. Get your facts straight!
awesome
214 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:32:42pm |
re: #204 Dark_Falcon
Most of the seats I sell are to DoD personnel. Solution providers actually are a minority at the events I work on. Get your facts straight!
Solution providers = Lobbyists. DoD personnel are the mark. It explains a lot, really.
216 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:33:20pm |
217 | Robert O. Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:33:23pm |
re: #194 darthstar
Well, just look at 'em!
//
Ha ha! A follow up question to Cain would be, should we invade Mexico? [I know some people sitting in that audience can hardly control themselves even thinking about it]
Oh well. I don't think I can be bothered with any more of this...
218 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:33:50pm |
re: #205 freetoken
Umm... Newt, Einstein was fleeing Nazi Germany.
What the fuck did Newt say about Einstein?
219 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:33:56pm |
Newts larger point was valid, you need to make the US more welcoming for skilled workers. Even if his point about Einstein was rather dumb for someone with a phd in History.
220 | prairiefire Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:33:56pm |
221 | engineer cat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:34:08pm |
re: #205 freetoken
Umm... Newt, Einstein was fleeing Nazi Germany.
nah, everybody knows he was fleeing high taxes, right?
222 | BongCrodny Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:34:13pm |
If they weren't part of a local church would they be forced to leave, Newt?
223 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:34:16pm |
Jobs used Chinese workers because they cost but a fraction of US workers.
224 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:34:30pm |
"If they're not in a church, you can go ahead and get rid of 'em."
226 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:35:03pm |
227 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:35:11pm |
re: #225 Meitantei
And wow, Gingrich is kind of sane.
That's just another lie...don't believe it for a minute.
228 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:35:17pm |
Andrew Sullivan again:
9.30 pm. Great question from my friend Nick Schulz. A pro-immigration conservative! Santorum dodges the key issue of the number of H-1 visas. In my view, we should greatly expand highly skilled immigrants and give any graduate from graduate school get a green card with a diploma. And that means I agree fully with Newt Gingrich.
230 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:35:31pm |
231 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:35:40pm |
232 | Altermite Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:35:44pm |
Romney is obviously a shill for the zombie lobby.
233 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:35:48pm |
re: #208 HAL2010
Newt making .. sense?
What is this devilry?
newt's more of a musician at this game :D He's been around the GOP block a few times, he got probed in an area during the Monica Lewinsky thing, bested by Clinton, probably embarrassing, left with his tail between his legs, but he's rock and roll! He's on the comeback tour! Hence the sudden finding of Jesus and hating of Queers. it's nothing personal! He just knows who the scum of the GOP base love to hate!
And one thing for Newt, he is the smart one, he's the lil' stinker. Must have infuriated him to see a fool like Perry in front of him
234 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:35:49pm |
So, belonging to a Christian church makes one eligible for citizenship?
Theocracy, anyone?
235 | BongCrodny Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:35:52pm |
re: #225 Meitantei
And wow, Gingrich is kind of sane.
If I were Mitt I'd have my guys be looking for some unfound dirt on Newt post-haste.
236 | Stanghazi Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:36:03pm |
Just following your comments (gracias) But my thought is these media folks NEED their moment to be relevant. Why the fuck do they not drop the question heard around the world?
Chickenshits, 1% paid by 1%, DISHONEST FOR THE BUCKS.
237 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:36:14pm |
re: #223 freetoken
Jobs used Chinese workers because they cost but a fraction of US workers.
And their retirement plan involves jumping from the windows of Apple contrractors.
238 | austin_blue Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:36:17pm |
re: #94 HAL2010
Perry does not control the national guard of Texas.
Old canard, busted when Palin said the same thing.
Well, he does when they are deployed within the state. Disasters and such. But not when they are deployed out of state.
239 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:36:26pm |
Mitt has a rabbit-in-the-headlights look right now...he feels like he lost control of this debate...the thing is, nobody gives a fuck...you're the nominee you lying piece of shit.
240 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:36:42pm |
re: #234 freetoken
So, belonging to a Christian church makes one eligible for citizenship?
Theocracy, anyone?
Agnostic immigrants must go!
241 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:37:22pm |
Mitt: "This is a party that LOVES legal immigration!" Excuse me while I guffaw loudly.
243 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:37:30pm |
re: #233 WindUpBird
Newt is many things, but smart is not one word I would use to describe him.
I find that 90 % of what he says is quite simply dumb.
Even a broken clock ...
244 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:37:31pm |
245 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:37:54pm |
"as a mormon, I immigrated here from Mormonistan."
246 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:38:16pm |
re: #243 HAL2010
Newt is many things, but smart is not one word I would use to describe him.
I find that 90 % of what he says is quite simply dumb.Even a broken clock ...
And yet he is billed as the smartest man on stage.
248 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:38:21pm |
Bring us your Swedes, your Irish, your Norse...
249 | zora Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:38:30pm |
re: #234 freetoken
how else will they know if you are a good person?
251 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:39:06pm |
re: #243 HAL2010
Newt is many things, but smart is not one word I would use to describe him.
I find that 90 % of what he says is quite simply dumb.Even a broken clock ...
compared to the rest of the clowns up there? he's a genius! Except for Ron Paul, who is a very bright, internally consistent klansman :D
252 | OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:39:06pm |
Does Mitt have a bad temper? Seems like he does....
253 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:39:06pm |
254 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:39:06pm |
re: #246 darthstar
And yet he is billed as the smartest man on stage.
And that says quite a lot really...
Huntsman is my guy on that stage.
In 2016.
255 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:39:10pm |
re: #244 freetoken
And muslims? Well, they're terrorists anyway...
Wait, how do we tell if Indian immigrants are Christian, Hindu or Muslim, anyway?
256 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:39:22pm |
re: #248 jaunte
Bring us your Swedes, your Irish, your Norse...
We'll take the * and the * but we WON'T TAKE THE IRISH!
/Blazing Saddles
257 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:39:44pm |
And the last thing Perry wants to do is exercise the intellect.
258 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:40:01pm |
re: #214 darthstar
Solution providers = Lobbyists. DoD personnel are the mark. It explains a lot, really.
Bullshit. The scientific people who design body armor for our troops are not lobbyists, and several of them will be at an event in DC in a couple weeks. And to call DoD personnel who come to a conference to learn better ways to design helmets to prevent brain injury "marks" is both hateful and foolish.
259 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:40:07pm |
260 | JAFO Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:40:18pm |
Mitt , they have that now it's called a green card.
261 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:40:18pm |
re: #252 OhNoZombies!
Does Mitt have a bad temper? Seems like he does...
Annoyed that some people are questioning his birthright nomination.
262 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:40:18pm |
re: #254 HAL2010
And that says quite a lot really...
Huntsman is my guy on that stage.
IN 2016.
Warren and Franken will clean his clock.
263 | celticdragon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:40:18pm |
264 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:40:24pm |
re: #248 jaunte
Bring us your Swedes, your Irish, your Norse...
Image: tumblr_lmdjmv53Oy1qji6dpo1_500.jpg
Sweden!
265 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:40:37pm |
re: #254 HAL2010
And that says quite a lot really...
Huntsman is my guy on that stage.
In 2016.
Me too...if he switches parties in 2012 and drops a few crazy ideas.
266 | austin_blue Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:40:41pm |
re: #253 freetoken
YOU CAN'T 'SPLAIN THAT!!
Magnets defy gravity! Look at thing justa floatin' above that other one! Can't be explained!
267 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:40:54pm |
268 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:41:07pm |
Damn that Flash... I suspect CNN has it set up so every 15 minutes they want to run a commercial.
269 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:41:07pm |
270 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:41:07pm |
Mitt talking about bringing people in to power our industries makes him sound even more like an agent from The Matrix.
271 | austin_blue Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:41:26pm |
re: #255 JasonA
Wait, how do we tell if Indian immigrants are Christian, Hindu or Muslim, anyway?
Well, if they float on water...
272 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:41:35pm |
re: #234 freetoken
So, belonging to a Christian church makes one eligible for citizenship?
Theocracy, anyone?
Um, leaving the difficulty involved in the whole theocracy thing aside, I live just south of Richmond, CA.
Above a certain point, San Pablo Avenue is absolutely chock-a-block with small storefront churches with flowery evangelical names in Spanish. These churches are stuffed with worshippers who would love to be eligible for citizenship.
Is that actually what Newt meant to say? If Newt's offering, trust me, these folks are interested.
273 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:41:40pm |
re: #259 Charles
Mitt's a very cranky guy.
Mitt doesn't like losing control of the spotlight. Ron Paul dominated the first hour by pointing out how stupid everyone else was being with their jingoistic "War! War! War!" battle cries.
274 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:41:58pm |
re: #257 freetoken
And the last thing Perry wants to do is exercise the intellect.
I stare into space and fulfill cartoonish stereotypes about Texas. Rick Perry Yo!
275 | engineer cat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:42:17pm |
easy - suck out the brainz we want and put them into certified acceptably american-type people
276 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:42:27pm |
re: #269 JasonA
Okay, that was pretty awesome.
See thats just how we roll in motherfuckin' Sweden. We don't need no hybrids either, we got polar bears with ice skates!
Just kidding.
We have brown bears.
277 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:42:38pm |
279 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:43:07pm |
re: #272 SanFranciscoZionist
Newt is appealing to the crowd that wants the GOP to be the Party of God (hmmm... I wonder what the Persians or Arabs would call that...)
281 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:44:08pm |
re: #262 Decatur Deb
Warren and Franken will clean his clock.
Warren v Huntsman would be a good race. She has more personality, but they are both wonks and it'd be a good race.
282 | BongCrodny Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:44:21pm |
re: #254 HAL2010
And that says quite a lot really...
Huntsman is my guy on that stage.
In 2016.
He's a bit too backwards-looking for me, but at least I wouldn't be embarrassed to see his name on the ballot as the other party's representative.
283 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:44:34pm |
re: #279 freetoken
Newt is appealing to the crowd that wants the GOP to be the Party of God (hmmm... I wonder what the Persians or Arabs would call that...)
I could use a little more Warhammer in my life
284 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:45:04pm |
Jesus H Christ.
How many VP's does Heritage have?
287 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:45:58pm |
re: #282 BongCrodny
He's a bit too backwards-looking for me, but at least I wouldn't be embarrassed to see his name on the ballot as the other party's representative.
He's an intelligent guy, which is why I was surprised that he was running this time around.
288 | celticdragon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:46:08pm |
re: #283 WindUpBird
I could use a little more Warhammer in my life
The Emperor protects. Praise him!
289 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:46:08pm |
290 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:46:11pm |
291 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:46:14pm |
292 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:46:27pm |
The last "debate" question came from Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, current VP of Heritage.
What a circle jerk.
293 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:46:38pm |
re: #282 BongCrodny
He's a bit too backwards-looking for me, but at least I wouldn't be embarrassed to see his name on the ballot as the other party's representative.
I probably wouldn't photoshop his face on the front of the gremlinfaced semi from Maximum Overdrive
probably.
294 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:46:48pm |
295 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:46:54pm |
Last night on Fox News, Rick Perry did a "Center Seat" interview with the Special Report panel, and became the first presidential candidate to endorse a no-fly zone in Syria. Byron York recounts the exchange:
296 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:47:22pm |
297 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:47:46pm |
re: #279 freetoken
Newt is appealing to the crowd that wants the GOP to be the Party of God (hmmm... I wonder what the Persians or Arabs would call that...)
Dang, it's on the tip of my tongue. Hezb...Hezb...heck, I can't remember.
298 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:48:08pm |
I mean, does Heritage do any research?
Or does it consists of a bunch of old VP's sitting around and laughing their ass off as they collect monies to lobby Washington with?
299 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:48:08pm |
re: #281 wozzablog
Warren v Huntsman would be a good race. She has more personality, but their both wonks and it'd be a good race.
Oh. Imagine a world in which...
300 | BongCrodny Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:48:20pm |
Huntsman always sounds like he's lecturing.
301 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:48:35pm |
re: #297 SanFranciscoZionist
Dang, it's on the tip of my tongue. Hezb...Hezb...heck, I can't remember.
Who cares about what they call it in Uzbekibekibekistanstan?
302 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:48:57pm |
Technical point - the centrifuges do not "spin".
303 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:49:08pm |
Never mind all that oil in those other countries, Jon.
304 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:49:17pm |
re: #292 Charles
The last "debate" question came from Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, current VP of Heritage.
What a circle jerk.
They need to cut out the middle men.
Wolf:"Let's go to the audience."
"Hi, my name's Mitt Romney, and I have a question for Mitt Romney. Mitt, don't you think it's unfair to everyone else that you're so awesome?"
305 | Altermite Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:49:25pm |
re: #300 BongCrodny
Huntsman always sounds like he's lecturing.
I'm okay with that. Better than frothing.
306 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:49:34pm |
re: #298 HAL2010
I mean, does Heritage do any research?
Yep...they know exactly how much it will cost to buy every congressman they need.
307 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:49:34pm |
re: #288 celticdragon
The Emperor protects. Praise him!
Will it be Bachmann who bestows the Chaos Gifts??!?
308 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:49:34pm |
309 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:49:45pm |
It is interesting to see the faces behind parts of the right wing machine, though. They're the ones asking questions.
310 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:50:25pm |
re: #309 Charles
It is interesting to see the faces behind parts of the right wing machine, though. They're the ones asking questions.
But they are only the faces. They live off of money given to their institutions.
311 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:50:33pm |
re: #307 WindUpBird
Will it be Bachmann who bestows the Chaos Gifts??!?
She's got the eyes to be a Daemon Princess.
312 | Meitantei Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:50:49pm |
Cain's just ignorant on foreign policy. Paul's just a complete fool. There's a difference.
313 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:50:50pm |
re: #299 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh. Imagine a world in which...
I *heart* Elizabeth Warren.
Honestly, Huntsman up there and not polling more than low single digits is, I don't know, I ran out of words to describe the insanity that provides the GOP base.
314 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:51:15pm |
re: #309 Charles
It is interesting to see the faces behind parts of the right wing machine, though. They're the ones asking questions.
A modern party needs a "deep apparatus". It's not a bad thing.
316 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:51:33pm |
Ron Paul just got tired and reached for a sweater.
317 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:51:34pm |
re: #312 Meitantei
Cain's just ignorant on foreign policy. Paul's just a complete fool. There's a difference.
And Bachmann sits on the Intelligence Committee.
I think we've got a trifecta here.
318 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:51:35pm |
Blitzers next question:
"So how comfortable are you with taking questions from a whole bunch of war criminals tonight? Anyone, anyone at all?"
319 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:52:05pm |
re: #314 Dark_Falcon
A modern party needs a "deep apparatus". It's not a bad thing.
That's what she said.
Rimshot!
320 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:52:15pm |
The schism between the Ron Paul libertarian far right and the social conservative far right couldn't be any clearer than it is tonight.
321 | recusancy Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:52:27pm |
re: #314 Dark_Falcon
A modern party needs a "deep apparatus". It's not a bad thing.
The Republican party is modern?
322 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:52:27pm |
re: #313 wozzablog
I *heart* Elizabeth Warren.
Honestly, Huntsman up there and not polling more than low single digits is. I don't know, I ran out of words to describe the insanity that provides the GOP base.
there needs to be a generation shift, I think
323 | Renaissance_Man Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:52:27pm |
re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How many flipping debates are there going to be?
At what point to they become Masterdebaters?
Why can't they stop? What fucking ideas are coming out of debate number 467 that we couldn't have heard of by debate... say 3?
Must be some serious frickin' money in these debates.
There is. This is reality TV entertainment for the target audience. Seriously, I'm not doing an 'AmIdol politics' rant - this is actual reality TV entertainment. That's all it is. Not governing, not politics - just reality TV, because FOX has demonstrated that there is a huge amount of money in marketing political porn to a certain market segment.
325 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:52:53pm |
If we're strong people will stop trying to hurt us? Sooo we haven't been strong for the last twenty years?
326 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:52:59pm |
327 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:53:11pm |
Oh God Mitt.
I have never heard so much dumb in just one sentence.
"There are no countries with common interests!"
Really Mitt, REALLY?
328 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:53:18pm |
Do you know what's wrong with covert action? It stops being covert when you freakn' talk about it.
329 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:54:25pm |
re: #314 Dark_Falcon
Okay, Dark...who won the debate tonight? I need an expert opinion from someone who thinks like these fuckers...I can't understand why anyone would like any of them...for anything.
330 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:54:35pm |
re: #327 HAL2010
Oh God Mitt.
I have never heard so much dumb in just one sentence.
"There are no countries with common interests!"
Really Mitt, REALLY?
So, Mitt. If you were President during WWII, would you have just told England to fuck off?
332 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:55:05pm |
Tyson Foods is doing just great in Venezuela, Rick.
333 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:55:13pm |
334 | engineer cat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:55:13pm |
re: #326 darthstar
In geological terms, yes.
i think newt speaks with a distinct cretaceous accent, though...
335 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:55:28pm |
re: #329 darthstar
Okay, Dark...who won the debate tonight? I need an expert opinion from someone who thinks like these fuckers...I can't understand why anyone would like any of them...for anything.
I think the win goes to Newt. My gut speaketh.
336 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:55:33pm |
Santorum is concerned that radical Islam and socialism will join hands in South America.
Rick, exit left, the men in the doctors suits are there to look after you.
337 | Meitantei Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:55:44pm |
re: #329 darthstar
As someone who is somewhat more conservative than most LGF people ( and who respects DF), I'd say Gingrich. There's now a more than 0% chance I would vote for him, which is well more than it was at the start.
339 | jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:56:06pm |
re: #314 Dark_Falcon
A modern party needs a "deep apparatus". It's not a bad thing.
A modern party also needs an intelligent forward thinking stance on civil rights issues rather than clinging to the bigotries of yesterday.
(Puts on Groucho Marx glasses +Mustache + Cigar) But let's work with what with what we have.
By which I mean you're free to work with what you have, they're not my party.
340 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:56:50pm |
re: #337 Meitantei
As someone who is somewhat more conservative than most LGF people ( and who respects DF), I'd say Gingrich. There's now a more than 0% chance I would vote for him, which is well more than it was at the start.
He spoke well, and didn't get hit hard.
341 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:57:11pm |
re: #338 Dark_Falcon
I don't care for your tone.
Okay...someone who understands these fuckers...not that you necessarily think like them...you've never said 9-9-9 for example...
342 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:57:26pm |
China not a country of virtue due to the number of abortions according to Perry.
Oh by the way, the US has about 3 times the number of teen pregnancies than Sweden.
343 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:57:37pm |
The question was... what do you worry about that hasn't been asked so far. So most of them go ahead and repeat the previous topics.
344 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:57:37pm |
Cain's knowledge of ballistics makes him concerned about cyber attacks? I guess he means people shooting their computers.
345 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:57:48pm |
re: #339 jamesfirecat
A modern party also needs an intelligent forward thinking stance on civil rights issues rather than clinging to the bigotries of yesterday.
(Puts on Groucho Marx glasses +Mustache + Cigar) But let's work with what with what we have.
By which I mean you're free to work with what you have, they're not my party.
[Dark_Falcon hits jamesfirecat in the face with an apply pie]
346 | darthstar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:58:05pm |
re: #337 Meitantei
As someone who is somewhat more conservative than most LGF people ( and who respects DF), I'd say Gingrich. There's now a more than 0% chance I would vote for him, which is well more than it was at the start.
What about the fact that he's a serial adulterer? Granted, he marries his victims, but still, he's not a moral character...is that not important?
349 | Kragar Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:58:30pm |
re: #344 Charleston Chew
Cain's knowledge of ballistics makes him concerned about cyber attacks? I guess he means people shooting their computers.
He's just throwing words together nowadays.
350 | dragonath Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:58:31pm |
352 | recusancy Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:58:50pm |
re: #344 Charleston Chew
Cain's knowledge of ballistics makes him concerned about cyber attacks? I guess he means people shooting their computers.
He's a computer scientist. That's actually legit.
354 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:59:10pm |
re: #341 darthstar
Okay...someone who understands these fuckers...not that you necessarily think like them...you've never said 9-9-9 for example...
Outside of German class.
355 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:59:16pm |
re: #348 jaunte
What does "give the peace away in Iraq" mean?
I thought she meant that we were going back to war with them or something...
356 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:59:16pm |
Cain is actually correct, cyber war and cyber terrorism and industrial espionage are massive issues that need to be addressed.
I would wager his answer was a fluke though...
357 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:59:21pm |
re: #348 jaunte
What does "give the peace away in Iraq" mean?
She doesn't know that Bush signed the papers with the withdrawal date.
358 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:59:37pm |
359 | BongCrodny Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:59:43pm |
Anyone else thinks it's a bit fucked up when CNN refers to the American Enterprise Institute as its "partner"?
361 | Renaissance_Man Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:59:48pm |
re: #346 darthstar
What about the fact that he's a serial adulterer? Granted, he marries his victims, but still, he's not a moral character...is that not important?
It's way less important to me than the fact that he thinks a President can say 'no returns' to the Supreme Court.
Or, more accurately, that he thinks so little of voters that making up things like that is just fine.
362 | engineer cat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:59:56pm |
oh, cain was a "computer scientist" early in his career?
did he research and design algorithms, then?
i have a degree in computer science, but i'm an engineer, not a scientist
After completing his master's degree from Purdue, Cain left the Department of the Navy and began working for The Coca-Cola Company in Atlanta as a computer systems analyst.
that's being a plain old computer programmer, herman, not a "computer scientist"
363 | Meitantei Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:00:06pm |
re: #346 darthstar
Honestly? I'll admit, the fact that he's an adulterer doesn't mean a whole lot to me. It may be morally wrong, but it's not unsurprising, and just doesn't mean a lot to me one way or another. Mitterand was a great Prime Minister, after all.
364 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:00:11pm |
re: #344 Charleston Chew
Cain's knowledge of ballistics makes him concerned about cyber attacks? I guess he means people shooting their computers.
No, he was referring to his work in doing ballistics-modelling using computers. Herman Cain knows a great deal about computers, far more than most of the people on this board. I say "most" because there are some here who are in his league, and I am quite sure Charles knows even more than he.
365 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:00:18pm |
Whoosh. Another 'debate' and no one is the wiser.
366 | jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:00:20pm |
re: #345 Dark_Falcon
[Dark_Falcon hits jamesfirecat in the face with an apply pie]
367 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:00:57pm |
re: #365 jaunte
Whoosh. Another 'debate' and no one is the wiser.
But, CNN got some $$$ from AEI/Heritage to run anti-EPA adverts.
368 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:01:06pm |
re: #346 darthstar
What about the fact that he's a serial adulterer? Granted, he marries his victims, but still, he's not a moral character...is that not important?
I'd say it's the fact that he's married to his victims--that is, the women he leaves--that makes him a bad moral character.
369 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:01:26pm |
re: #348 jaunte
What does "give the peace away in Iraq" mean?
I don't know. The peace of Iraq passeth understanding.
370 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:01:36pm |
371 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:01:42pm |
Dana Loesch just called Newt "Reaganesque."
372 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:01:42pm |
re: #322 WindUpBird
there needs to be a generation shift, I think
A young gun next time (don't see one much younger than Obama), I don't know who'd be out there, but '16 is a long time away
373 | recusancy Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:02:01pm |
re: #364 Dark_Falcon
No, he was referring to his work in doing ballistics-modelling using computers. Herman Cain knows a great deal about computers, far more than most of the people on this board. I say "most" because there are some here who are in his league, and I am quite sure Charles knows even more than he.
lol
374 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:02:14pm |
re: #357 wozzablog
She doesn't know that Bush signed the papers with the withdrawal date.
That was OK. It was when Obama gave a hard date that we screwed up.
//
375 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:02:18pm |
376 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:02:26pm |
377 | freetoken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:02:39pm |
re: #362 engineer dog
It's a distinction most don't make. I have a Masters in Comp Sci but it was really software engineering, but I did engineering management for a living. I wished I had done a Ph.D and actually did computer science proper, but that is another story.
378 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:04:09pm |
379 | jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:04:29pm |
re: #371 JasonA
Dana Loesch just called Newt "Reaganesque."
In the sense that he's old white, and sounds like he has some kind of degenerative mental condition?
(Granted the said could be same of Terry Pratchett, but I want him writing Discworld Books not running for Prime Minister)
380 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:04:34pm |
This was the nuttiest debate yet, by far.
381 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:04:45pm |
@BorowitzReport
BREAKING: 2012 Shaping Up Perfectly, Say Ancient Mayans #CNNDebate
382 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:04:56pm |
383 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:04:58pm |
What we learned or already knew:
1. Huntsman knows his shit on foreign policy
2. Ron Paul will always be RON PAUL
3. Perry is useless
4. Dito Cain
5. Newt actually has the capacity to show compassion
6. Mitt has a shortish temper
7. Santorum is nuts
8. Bachmann has a even nuttier, more fruity flavour than Santorum
9. Obama will fucking kill them in a foreign policy debate
This is all.
385 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:05:36pm |
@Goldberg3000
President Obama is battling Muslim terrorists in more countries than any president in history, and these guys paint him as Marlo Thomas.
386 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:05:41pm |
Tuning out, got a documentary on the history of Russian Helicopters on Discovery and a tonne of crap to do for my unemployment.
Not sleeping tonight, apparently.
387 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:06:42pm |
re: #363 Meitantei
Honestly? I'll admit, the fact that he's an adulterer doesn't mean a whole lot to me. It may be morally wrong, but it's not unsurprising, and just doesn't mean a lot to me one way or another. Mitterand was a great Prime Minister, after all.
But did Mitterand set himself up as a judge of morality?
388 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:06:59pm |
I'm out of pies. I'll have to go Baker's Square tomorrow and get more.
389 | recusancy Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:07:28pm |
re: #362 engineer dog
oh, cain was a "computer scientist" early in his career?
did he research and design algorithms, then?
i have a degree in computer science, but i'm an engineer, not a scientist
After completing his master's degree from Purdue, Cain left the Department of the Navy and began working for The Coca-Cola Company in Atlanta as a computer systems analyst.
that's being a plain old computer programmer, herman, not a "computer scientist"
I don't think he called himself a computer scientist. I did. I just skimmed his Wiki. Thanks for the clarification.
390 | TedStriker Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:07:50pm |
391 | HAL2010 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:08:18pm |
Huntsman, Newt and Obama won the debate tonight.
My brain, as my sleeping pattern, severely lost.
It is now four in the morning over here, so Goodnight everybody!
393 | engineer cat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:09:15pm |
re: #377 freetoken
It's a distinction most don't make. I have a Masters in Comp Sci but it was really software engineering, but I did engineering management for a living. I wished I had done a Ph.D and actually did computer science proper, but that is another story.
it irks me, though. scientists do research and find things out about the universe; engineers design things and build proof of concept prototypes. i don't like people promoting themselves with titles that they don't really deserve
i'm embarrassed enough about having the job title software engineer, which i legitimately deserve - however, when i tell that to people when asked, i often say "...meaning glorified computer programmer" so that i don't feel like i'm being pretentious
394 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:09:32pm |
re: #385 jaunte
@Goldberg3000
President Obama is battling Muslim terrorists in more countries than any president in history, and these guys paint him as Marlo Thomas.
Speaking of which, my son-in-law arrived in Afghanistan today to start a 5-6 month stay.
He's already been deployed to Africa for five months earlier in the year.
395 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:10:14pm |
re: #383 HAL2010
What we learned or already knew:
1. Huntsman knows his shit on foreign policy
2. Ron Paul will always be RON PAUL
3. Perry is useless
4. Dito Cain
5. Newt actually has the capacity to show compassion
6. Mitt has a shortish temper
7. Santorum is nuts
8. Bachmann has a even nuttier, more fruity flavour than Santorum9. Obama will fucking kill them in a foreign policy debate
This is all.
It's always tough to win a foreign policy debate against a guy who's morning coffee comes with the top secret President's Daily Brief.
396 | nines09 Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:10:26pm |
Debate? It was a Book Tour/Loon Cult promisory note. What a crying shame. The United States Of America has two major political parties and one has degressed into a One Ring Circus with lots of clowns and little else and the scary part is people will vote for these clowns.
397 | prairiefire Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:12:00pm |
re: #391 HAL2010
Huntsman, Newt and Obama won the debate tonight.
My brain, as my sleeping pattern, severely lost.
It is now four in the morning over here, so Goodnight everybody!
Night, Hal.
398 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:12:13pm |
Gingrich: Because everyone who voted for Dole isn't dead yet
399 | jaunte Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:13:30pm |
Nate Silver:
In the Land of the Salamanders, the Newt is King
In Mr. Gingrich’s case, however, the 48 percent who say he leads on the knowledge-and-experience dimension nearly doubles the 26 percent overall support he has in the poll. It serves as a counter-balance to other areas in which Mr. Gingrich seems weak — for instance, just 9 percent of Republicans say that he has the “strongest moral character” in the field.
400 | jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:13:46pm |
re: #398 WindUpBird
Gingrich: Because everyone who voted for Dole isn't dead yet
Bob Dole lost the election, and Bob Dole also lost the ability to say the letter (sound of gargling) But Bob Dole hasn't lost Bob Dole's memory. Bob Dole still remembers the day that Bob Dole married Lizzy Dole and said "Bob Dole do." Before that Bob Dole proposed with a diamond that was so small it was invisible to the naked Bob Dole.
401 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:16:13pm |
I had not previously been aware of [Link: www.dickipedia.com...]
403 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:17:09pm |
Just saw a funny facebook post.
"Today, I shot my first turkey. The people at Kroger were severely pissed."
404 | jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:17:31pm |
re: #402 OhNoZombies!
That was funny !
:-D
Thanks its my standard Bob Dole joke that I use whenever Bob Dole gets mentioned and stole from the Cap Steps.
405 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:18:12pm |
re: #400 jamesfirecat
Bob Dole sees Bob Dole galaxies. Bob Dole has become the ur-Bob Dole. BOB DOLE BOB DOLE PRIME! Bob Dole's logarithmic progression assures the world that all planets will become safely...but irreversibly...Bob Dole.
407 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:18:47pm |
re: #401 SanFranciscoZionist
I had not previously been aware of [Link: www.dickipedia.com...]
From their article on the Octomom:
To help pay for his daughter's baby-producing habit, Suleman's 67-year-old father has returned to his native country to work as an interpreter.
That country, notably, is Iraq, which means either: 1) Suleman's actions have forced her elderly father to go to a warzone to help pay for her children or 2) the idea of having to deal with 14 kids and an insane mother has forced him to literally flee to a warzone.
408 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:19:14pm |
409 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:19:44pm |
re: #407 SanFranciscoZionist
as they say in pet sematary, sometimes dead is better
410 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:33:40pm |
re: #396 nines09
Debate? It was a Book Tour/Loon Cult promisory note. What a crying shame. The United States Of America has two major political parties and one has degressed into a One Ring Circus with lots of clowns and little else and the scary part is people will vote for these clowns.
But the clown car circles the ring leftwards in order to attract the NASCAR vote.
/
411 | BongCrodny Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:38:01pm |
re: #388 Dark_Falcon
I'm out of pies. I'll have to go Baker's Square tomorrow and get more.
Wait a minute -- you're gonna vote for one of these guys, and you're throwing pies at us?
412 | funky chicken Tue, Nov 22, 2011 9:23:35pm |
413 | OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Nov 23, 2011 7:00:17am |
re: #204 Dark_Falcon
Most of the seats I sell are to DoD personnel.
Solution providersProfiteers actually are a minority at the events I work on. Get your facts straight!
fxd
414 | jamesfirecat Wed, Nov 23, 2011 5:46:15pm |
re: #157 Dark_Falcon
The GOP isn't crashing it. That's just partisan BS from the Dems.
You may still be able to win elections, but look at who you have running for President, half a dozen crazy people, a spineless flip flopper and a semi-sane guy with 1% of the vote.
That's not the group of candidates that a healthy party puts forward to run for the president.