Lots of bicycles there...

Around the world indeed.

A brand new thread!

intensely insanely awesome looking flash game:

[Link: www.kongregate.com...]

Going to bed. Say Hi to Researchok when he get's here. :)

Have a great morning/evening all!

Sure has been quiet around here......

re: #5 boxhead

Perhaps some of the conversations have become too monolithic?

re: #6 freetoken

Perhaps some of the conversations have become too monolithic?

yeah... but what about the silly conversations I have so enjoyed here?

re: #7 boxhead

Humor is in short supply lately, it seems.

Charlie Palmieri from 1962:

When I am on this site, I always have LGF Spy up. I always see folks moderating lots of older comments instead of adding comments. If that is their thing, then cool.

re: #8 freetoken

Humor is in short supply lately, it seems.

Humor is what keeps people sane.

re: #9 freetoken

Charlie Palmieri from 1962:

[Video]

cool... but not my cup of tea. No offense, but when the music started, all I could think of is elevator music.. :)

re: #12 boxhead

Charlie Palmieri... elevator music?

_{I'm going to cry...}

re: #13 freetoken

Charlie Palmieri... elevator music?

_{I'm going to cry...}

heh... he is just not in my playlist. Especially since I cannot understand the lyrics.

Someone just sent me to this on Facebook. Anyone know anything about this scale? Is it considered significant? Thought it was quite interesting.

re: #15 SanFranciscoZionist

Someone just sent me to this on Facebook. Anyone know anything about this scale? Is it considered significant? Thought it was quite interesting.

Here is what I have found....

[Link: www.clearlycultural.com...]

Hofstede’s Power distance Index measures the extent to which the less powerful members of organizations and institutions (like the family) accept and expect that power is distributed unequally. This represents inequality (more versus less), but defined from below, not from above. It suggests that a society’s level of inequality is endorsed by the followers as much as by the leaders.

For example, Germany has a 35 on the cultural scale of Hofstede’s analysis. Compared to Arab countries where the power distance is very high (80) and Austria where it very low (11), Germany is somewhat in the middle. Germany does not have a large gap between the wealthy and the poor, but have a strong belief in equality for each citizen. Germans have the opportunity to rise in society.

On the other hand, the power distance in the United States scores a 40 on the cultural scale. The United States exhibits a more unequal distribution of wealth compared to German society. As the years go by it seems that the distance between the ‘have’ and ‘have-nots’ grows larger and larger.

re: #15 SanFranciscoZionist

It strikes me as something a PhD thesis might encompass, in order to somehow convince others that the student has discovered something important.

Frankly, I am highly dismissive of any approach that tries to use a single number to describe the complexity of a large system. A single number is chosen because the human brain more readily grasps integers of low magnitude. But a system such as human civilization isn't something that lends itself well to being described as such.

While I'm being curmudgeonly:

Watching a World Bank presser at Durban. What a load of BS. These people are about nothing more than trying to convince others that they are doing something important, but they are just posturing.

The person who sent it to me wanted me to check out Israel's score.

Which will come as no surprise to anyone who's ever met an Israeli.

;)

Denmark is also quite low. Austria, for whatever reason, seems to be the lowest, at least that I could find. I'm interested that they seem to have distinctly lower scores than nations in their immediate area that I think of as having fairly similar cultures and economies.

And there is a notable lack of journalists at these pressers who can or will ask probing questions.

re: #17 freetoken

It strikes me as something a PhD thesis might encompass, in order to somehow convince others that the student has discovered something important.

Frankly, I am highly dismissive of any approach that tries to use a single number to describe the complexity of a large system. A single number is chosen because the human brain more readily grasps integers of low magnitude. But a system such as human civilization isn't something that lends itself well to being described as such.

The results desired by the author should be highly mathematical in nature. Analyzing census data followed by analyzing tax data. One is open, the other not so much, especially the 1% folks have ninja skills when it comes to hiding wealth. Public opinion probably would be pretty damn close to the actual numbers.

re: #16 boxhead

Just wait until I hack some files and leak them, cherry-picked to indicate that the data has been tweaked...

re: #18 freetoken

While I'm being curmudgeonly:

Watching a World Bank presser at Durban. What a load of BS. These people are about nothing more than trying to convince others that they are doing something important, but they are just posturing.

All the world is a stage. There is depth in that quote.

re: #22 ralphieboy

Just wait until I hack some files and leak them, cherry-picked to indicate that the data has been tweaked...

lol... it is what it is...

Morning, all

re: #25 researchok

Morning, all

good morning to you as well

sixty-seven comments to go before I reach 10,000 total. I suppose i could just pack them all into this thread and get it over with.

Anybody wanna argue about climate change?

re: #27 ralphieboy

sixty-seven comments to go before I reach 10,000 total. I suppose i could just pack them all into this thread and get it over with.

Anybody wanna argue about climate change?

We have had some extra strong Santa Ana winds in these parts. I still believe that those winds are the farts from the giant turtle that our earth is riding upon. Not sure how that fits into climate change....

:)

Fox's Bolling: "In America, We Create, We Make iPhones," Whereas The Chinese Make "Finger Trap[s]"
Uh...Nevermind.
Just nevermind.
:/

re: #28 boxhead

We have had some extra strong Santa Ana winds in these parts. I still believe that those winds are the farts from the giant turtle that our earth is riding upon. Not sure how that fits into climate change...

:)

Just another enormous Wikileak headed your way...

re: #27 ralphieboy

sixty-seven comments to go before I reach 10,000 total. I suppose i could just pack them all into this thread and get it over with.

Anybody wanna argue about climate change?

Lunar volcanoes disprove AGW.

re: #29 Varek Raith

Murdoch knows the market for stupid is big, really big.

re: #31 Varek Raith

Lunar volcanoes disprove AGW.

Speaking of which, if you look at my tweets you'll notice I've finally run out of any patience with the idiots, and my language has taken a turn for the more coarse.

re: #33 freetoken

Speaking of which, if you look at my tweets you'll notice I've finally run out of any patience with the idiots, and my language has taken a turn for the more coarse.

I noticed that.
I must say, you have the patience of a saint.

re: #33 freetoken

Speaking of which, if you look at my tweets you'll notice I've finally run out of any patience with the idiots, and my language has taken a turn for the more coarse.

honey and lemon in your tea will help with the course throat.. :) I do feel you in your lack of patience with idiots..... Issac Asimov also felt your pain...

There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

- Isaac Asimov

It is a tradition that is old as America: we had an inferiority compley towards Europe, which was more advanced culturally and scientifically.

For that, we saw ourselves as morally superior to those decadent, effete, over-educated Europeans.

I appreciate American's disinclination towards elitism and our preference for folksy, down-to-earth anti-intellectualism, but lately it has turned into a nearly complete rejection of science and education.

re: #36 ralphieboy

It is a tradition that is old as America: we had an inferiority compley towards Europe, which was more advanced culturally and scientifically.

For that, we saw ourselves as morally superior to those decadent, effete, over-educated Europeans.

I appreciate American's disinclination towards elitism and our preference for folks, down-to-earth anti-intellectualism, but lately it has turned into a rejection of science and education.

I can see the cultural envy, but scientifically, USA has been the pinnacle. And in many ways, culture in USA has made great strides such that envy of Europe is unnecessary. But, while I do see USA slipping in science, I have hope that USA will reverse that trend.

I meant in a historical sense: America did not start overtaking Europe until the 20th century. But the attitude is very ingrained in our thinking and our approach.

And I expect that the USA's main hope in reversing our trend of slipping behind in science is to attract more well educated immigrants...

Guys, instead of freaking out over islamists winning, go and volunteer in the campaigns for the parties u support. Stop being whiners.

[Link: twitter.com...]

Alleged acts of fraud during the Egyptian election, chiefly by the Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party:

I can't understand what they're saying but it looks like the Bush-Gore recount.

re: #40 EdDantes

I can't understand what they're saying but it looks like the Bush-Gore recount.

The YT video pages have english descriptions.

re: #38 ralphieboy

I meant in a historical sense: America did not start overtaking Europe until the 20th century. But the attitude is very ingrained in our thinking and our approach.

I guess living in SoCal, I do not feel that here. I can definitely see it in the South though.

And I expect that the USA's main hope in reversing our trend of slipping behind in science is to attract more well educated immigrants...

Here is what the White House has proposed. Looks good on paper.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

So the UNFCCC tweets:

@UN_ClimateTalks
UNFCCC
Ask UN climate chief @CFigueres a question ahead of or during her Friday 13:15 (Durban time) press conference on progress at #COP17 #UNFCCC

So I tweeted:

@CFigueres How can you keep the UNFCCC from becoming the League of Nations? #COP17

I tried it last night... but there were no takers. Again, I doubt it will be the chosen question tonight.

Heh:

You may not want to admit this, but this is a character assassination on me. Why? Because I was doing so well. There is no other reason to basically explain it.

Herman Cain • Denying, to Fox News’ Neil Cavuto, that he carried on a 13-year affair with a woman named Ginger White.

Has anyone ever seen “Ginger White” and Barack Obama in the same room together? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

re: #44 000G

Has anyone ever seen “Ginger White” and Barack Obama in the same room together? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

I KNEW IT

Image: huge-insect_2071941i.jpg

Adventurer Mark Moffett has found the world’s biggest insect - which is so huge it can eat carrots. The former park ranger discovered the giant weta up a tree and his real life Bugs Bunny has now been declared the largest ever found. He came across the cricket-like creature, which has a wing span of seven inches, after two days of searching on a tiny island. The creepy crawly is only found on Little Barrier Island, in New Zealand. The species was wiped off the mainland by rats accidentally introduced by Europeans.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #44 000G

Heh:

Herman Cain • Denying, to Fox News’ Neil Cavuto, that he carried on a 13-year affair with a woman named Ginger White.

Has anyone ever seen “Ginger White” and Barack Obama in the same room together? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

Cain's newest ad.

[Link: teamcoco.com...]

re: #46 000G

Image: huge-insect_2071941i.jpg

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Awesome.

re: #46 000G

almost big enough to compete for Best In Show!

re: #46 000G

I hope that's a carrot he's eating.

re: #50 EdDantes

I hope that's a carrot he's eating.

I hope it's vegetarian...

re: #51 ralphieboy

I hope it's vegetarian...

...
Yeah, no.
See, it's been genetically spliced...
Nevermind.
Just keep an eye on the sky.

re: #52 Varek Raith

...
Yeah, no.
See, it's been genetically spliced...
Nevermind.
Just keep an eye on the sky.

Just imagine crossing this with a Tasmanian Devil...

re: #53 ralphieboy

Just imagine crossing this with a Tasmanian Devil...

Struck out again... they picked a question about a Russian proposed amendment to the actual UNFCCC convention about periodically redefining "developed" and "developing" nation listss - which will never happen as it would open the door to redoing the entire UNFCCC. That wasn't her answer, but it is obvious. Her answer was "it is difficult" which is diplo-speak for "never."

Oh well, there is always tomorrow night...

Maria Callas and Britney Spears have the same birthday? (today) There's some kind of cosmic joke in that, I think.

"La mamma morta" from "Andrea Chénier" is one of Maria Callas' immortal arias. Highlighted in the movie Philadelphia.

Flashing the world while getting out of a car is one of Brittany's immortal moments. Highlighted on the internet.

Maria wins.

re: #50 EdDantes

I hope that's a carrot he's eating.

Early draft of Bugs Bunny, called Bugs Bug. It did not go over well with audiences.

re: #46 000G

I live in Florida, where we have BIG cockroaches.
Q. How big are they?
A. They are so big that, when they back up, they are required by federal law to emit warning beeps.
These cockroaches could harm Florida's image. But we Floridians solved that problem by giving them a new name, "palmetto bugs, " which makes them sound cute and harmless. So when a guest walks into a Florida kitchen and screams at the sight of an insect the size of Charles Barkley, we say: "Don't worry! It's just a palmetto bug!" And then we and our guest have a hearty laugh, because we know there's nothing to worry about, as long as we do not make any sudden moves toward the palmetto bug's sandwich.

-Dave Barry

This happened once in Schenectady NY:
[Link: boston.cbslocal.com...]
Turned out it was a piece of turbine from a train, two miles +/- away.

re: #58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

[Link: www.penny-arcade.com...]

re: #60 Obdicut

Wife called me into the bathroom once to kill a large (small) spider... I rescued her, killed it, flushed it down the toilet. I came back into the bedroom and with my best mafioso accent told her, "The spider? It sleeps with the feces."

The joke was totally lost on her.

re: #61 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My wife can assist on an autopsy on a dead person, but freaks out at the sight of a cockroach.

It's odd to me. But we divide the labor; she handles any dead bodies that crop up, and I handle all the cockroaches.

yo

re: #61 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #62 Obdicut

Ha. You guys crack me up.

re: #46 000G

Image: huge-insect_2071941i.jpg

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

It looks strangely cuddly.

I had something important to say here but I forgot what it was. I have it written down at home.

You gotta love these holiday "O. Henry-esque" irony stories.

Morning Lizardim from the clear and bitterly cold wild north country. Another round of snow is due tomorrow, which means I'd better make sure my back is rested up and in good shape for the coming 200m snow-shoveling Olympic event.

@cooperhyl
hylton mitchell
#COP17 Protesters in action stopping the main road next to the UN ICC.

Some of KT's friends have reached Durban, no?:
[Link: yfrog.com...]

Good night, everyone .God willing, we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, through the purity and essence of our natural fluids. God bless you all.

Blah.

trip to the docs this morning, who sent me to the hospital to get my back looked at and patched up.

crawling off to bed. again.

laters all.

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

bwahahahahahahaha

law, order, meth

Good morning lizards!

Busy day. Off like a herd of turtles.

This op-ed by former SEIU president Andy Stern in the Wall Street Journal called "China's Superior Economic Model " has Rush Limbaugh going full Cold War:

What Andy Stern calls an economic model is actually a political philosophy that makes the individual subservient to the state. So here we are. We finally reached a point here, ladies and gentlemen -- and this is something I have been warning you people about for two-plus decades -- where liberals are comfortable citing communism as the endgame. Andy Stern, he proudly declares it! He's singing the tune; he's singing the hymn. It's in the Wall Street Journal: We need to become communist! They have been doing it and saying it for two plus decades. This is progress to people like Barack Obama and Andy Stern, and this is why Obama does want a second term. I don't buy this notion that he's not interested. So the progressives, because of the panic that they're in, are finally being honest here.

It's a movement towards an all-powerful, centralized state government, unencumbered by a constitution, unencumbered by a Bill of Rights, unencumbered by a separation-of powers. This is what Andy Stern is saying: Screw a Constitution! Screw limits on a grand pooh-bah leader. We need us, the smart people, able to move mountains with a wave of our wand. So we're in the process here of defining, folks, the larger purpose of the 2012 elections. It isn't just Barack Obama versus a generic Republican. This election is about remaining a free people. This election is about the individual versus the state. This upcoming election is about the public sector versus the private sector. This upcoming election is about state control of property versus individuals controlling their own private property.

This is an election of the makers versus the takers, and what hangs in the balance really is the American way of life. These people -- Andy Stern, Barack Obama, and they're cronies -- are on the verge of rendering the American Revolution null and void, and the regime's minions know it. They're one election away from remaking America. Obama's even said it. We've got the sound bite coming up here somewhere. He's telling these people in the Occupy crowd, "Hey, it's worse than I thought. We need four more years. You've got to give me four more years to make sure that my question plan is fully implemented." Four more years to finish the job, four more years to finish them off. (interruption) Well, Snerdley's in there laughing, but I'm telling you: This is how I see it. Four more years to finish the job. Four more years to fully implement Obamacare. What's so important about that?

Because that's ballgame.

I have this Daniel Hannan piece. It ran at the Telegraph, UK Telegraph.com. "What has happened since 2008 is not capitalism. In a capitalist system, bad banks would have been allowed to fail, their profitable operations bought by more efficient competitors. Shareholders, bondholders and some depositors would have lost money, but taxpayers would not have contributed a penny. ... Those of us who believe in small government are not motivated by the desire to make the rich richer. We’re really not. We are, in most cases, nowhere near having to pay top rate tax ourselves; our most eloquent champions over the years have been modestly paid academics. We believe that economic freedom will enrich the country as a whole." This is in Hannan's memo to the Occupy people. He's just talking to, you know, deaf ears, trying to explain conservatism to them. They're not listening. They don't care to know.

That would require work.

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]
See also [Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]

oh boy

Moonbats at Amnesty International are still trying to put GWB in jail...

Group calls for Bush arrest

Amnesty International is calling for the arrest of former President George W. Bush while he is traveling overseas in Africa.

The human rights group issued a statement Thursday calling for the governments of Ethiopia, Tanzania or Zambia to take the former president into custody. According to Amnesty, the 43rd president is complicit in torture conducted by the United States during his administration and should be held pending an international investigation.

"International law requires that there be no safe haven for those responsible for torture; Ethiopia, Tanzania and Zambia must seize this opportunity to fulfill their obligations and end the impunity George W. Bush has so far enjoyed," said Amnesty senior legal adviser Matt Pollard in a statement.

Bush is traveling overseas in Africa to raise awareness for HIV/AIDS, cervical and breast cancer across the continent. He participated today via satellite in a Worlds AIDS Day event put on by the ONE Campaign and (RED) where he was joined by President Barack Obama and former President Bill Clinton.

re: #76 NJDhockeyfan

Oh gee, calling to act in accordance with law is being "moonbat" now, lol.

re: #77 Sergey Romanov

Oh gee, calling to act in accordance with law is being "moonbat" now, lol.

Well, in NJD's defense, it's not like Amnesty International has a history of being a terribly rational organization. They do tend toward the moonbat end of the spectrum more often than not.

re: #78 thedopefishlives

Such as?

I've noticed the past two days if I try to link to an AP story from searching Google it gets blocked. It happened at work yesterday and at home this morning.

This service is not available

Google News is not available for estudentnelson.org. Learn more about Google products you can use with gesoude@estudentnelson.org.

If you are the Google Apps administrator, please read these articles to learn more about controlling user access to Google Apps services and turning services on/off for certain users.

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re: #76 NJDhockeyfan

Moonbats at Amnesty International are still trying to put GWB in jail...

Group calls for Bush arrest

I can understand how you would think a group that fights against illegal and indefinite detention and torture and has won a Nobel for doing that would be moonbats.

re: #79 Sergey Romanov

Such as?

Search for it on LGF. Charles has done some reporting on how Amnesty International is notoriously anti-Israel and anti-America.

re: #81 garhighway

Yep.

re: #82 thedopefishlives

LOL.

re: #80 NJDhockeyfan

That's really odd. Makes it seem like you're signed into Google with a business account.

re: #77 Sergey Romanov

Oh gee, calling to act in accordance with law is being "moonbat" now, lol.

They could just as easily call for the arrest of Obama too. It's stupid.

re: #86 Killgore Trout

They could just as easily call for the arrest of Obama too. It's stupid.

No, they couldn't.

re: #81 garhighway

I can understand how you would think a group that fights against illegal and indefinite detention and torture and has won a Nobel for doing that would be moonbats.

They are fighting against one of our past presidents. Fuck them. As far as using Nobel, they also gave a peace prize to terrorist leader Yasser Arafat. Fuck them too.

re: #85 Obdicut

That's really odd. Makes it seem like you're signed into Google with a business account.

That's what I was thinking yesterday at work when I saw it but it just happened again and I'm just here at home.

re: #88 NJDhockeyfan

They are fighting against one of our past presidents. Fuck them.

Fuck any torturers, torture authorizers and torture apologists.

re: #84 Sergey Romanov

LOL.

I'm sorry, did I say something funny?

re: #87 Sergey Romanov

No, they couldn't.

Why not? Doesn't his orders to drop bombs in Egypt and Libya make him responsible for civilian deaths too? (Just trying give the AI point of view)

re: #92 NJDhockeyfan

Why not? Doesn't his orders to drop bombs in Egypt and Libya make him responsible for civilian deaths too? (Just trying give the AI point of view)

It's not AI point of view, it's a wingnut caricature of AI point of view.

re: #80 NJDhockeyfan

estudentnelson.org? Sounds like some kind of spammer's domain. When was the last time you ran malwarebytes on your machine?

re: #91 thedopefishlives

I'm sorry, did I say something funny?

Yeah, wingnut cliches are funny.

re: #89 NJDhockeyfan

That's what I was thinking yesterday at work when I saw it but it just happened again and I'm just here at home.

Two different computers? That's very odd. I can't think of any way that could possibly happen. The domain name is unfamiliar to you, I assume?

re: #94 darthstar

estudentnelson.org? Sounds like some kind of spammer's domain. When was the last time you ran malwarebytes on your machine?

Been a while. The one at work has all kinds of safety measures in it's network.

re: #96 Obdicut

Two different computers? That's very odd. I can't think of any way that could possibly happen. The domain name is unfamiliar to you, I assume?

I was just searching news articles in Google and when I went to an AP story that's what I got. All the other websites are fine. Weird.

re: #98 NJDhockeyfan

I was just searching news articles in Google and when I went to an AP story that's what I got. All the other websites are fine. Weird.

And the domain name is unfamiliar to you?

re: #97 NJDhockeyfan

Been a while. The one at work has all kinds of safety measures in it's network.

Well, if you don't work for estudentnelson.org or use it as an ISP, then you could be sitting there with an app on your machine that does URL hijacking. How much free porn do you watch?

re: #99 Obdicut

And the domain name is unfamiliar to you?

Never seen it before until yesterday at work.

re: #101 NJDhockeyfan

Never seen it before until yesterday at work.

The only explanation I can think of for you seeing the same error on two different machines with no network in common is that you have the same hijack virus on both machines.

Unless there's something else that connects the machines other than you.

re: #100 darthstar

Well, if you don't work for estudentnelson.org or use it as an ISP, then you could be sitting there with an app on your machine that does URL hijacking. How much free porn do you watch?

I'm in Nelson County but I don't think that matters.

No porn at this house and the computers at work block just about everything but work related websites. I'm lucky to even get LGF.

re: #101 NJDhockeyfan

Never seen it before until yesterday at work.

It's never a good idea to browse 4chan at work. I know, I know...research...just want to see what those freaks are up to today. I'm not judging you.

bwahaha

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, also took Amnesty to task for its latest statement. "If Amnesty International had any intellectual honesty, it would give President Bush a medal to honor him for liberating so many oppressed Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan and for assisting millions of AIDS victims in Africa," King said in a statement.

re: #102 Obdicut

The only explanation I can think of for you seeing the same error on two different machines with no network in common is that you have the same hijack virus on both machines.

Unless there's something else that connects the machines other than you.

No, nothing connected. I'll run a malware check later and see if it finds anything.

re: #106 NJDhockeyfan

No, nothing connected. I'll run a malware check later and see if it finds anything.

Use a couple different programs to do it.

re: #104 darthstar

It's never a good idea to browse 4chan at work. I know, I know...research...just want to see what those freaks are up to today. I'm not judging you.

4chan? What's that?

re: #93 Sergey Romanov

Amnesty: Obama’s Alleged Link to Secret Prisons and Extraordinary Rendition

AI is a mixed bag, They do some good work which is unfortunately undermined by rabid lefty politics, anti-American bias and tacit support for terrorists like Hamas.

re: #107 Obdicut

Use a couple different programs to do it.

Which ones are the best? I use Kaspersky anti-virus.

re: #103 NJDhockeyfan

I'm in Nelson County but I don't think that matters.

No porn at this house and the computers at work block just about everything but work related websites. I'm lucky to even get LGF.

You need to clean your machines - both of them. If you don't have admin rights on your machine at work then you get to ask IT to do it for you. Otherwise, download and run Malwarebytes - it's free and it's safe - then get in the habit of running it periodically or change your browsing behavior. You are a bit of a link junkie...makes you a good target.

No harm on the 4chan/porn comments...just fucking with you.

re: #108 NJDhockeyfan

4chan? What's that?

It's not a river in Egypt.

Holiday shopping alert:

Last night, Iranian hackers took down the server at Judaism.com, which sells about half the products that are featured at the Zionist Mall. No ETA on when the site will come back online.

re: #110 NJDhockeyfan

Which ones are the best? I use Kaspersky anti-virus.

Use Malware Bytes
[Link: www.malwarebytes.org...]

and windows defender

[Link: www.microsoft.com...]

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Amnesty: Obama’s Alleged Link to Secret Prisons and Extraordinary Rendition

That's good to know. Kinda irrelevant to the discussion.

AI is a mixed bag,

As is any organization.

They do some good work which is unfortunately undermined by rabid lefty politics, anti-American bias and tacit support for terrorists like Hamas.

Sure, sure. If you say so.

re: #113 Alouette

Holiday shopping alert:

Last night, Iranian hackers took down the server at Judaism.com, which sells about half the products that are featured at the Zionist Mall. No ETA on when the site will come back online.

They are probably pissed off by the Brits kicking their asses out of the country for attacking their embassy in Iran. They will be gone in a few hours.

re: #114 Obdicut

Use Malware Bytes
[Link: www.malwarebytes.org...]

and windows defender

[Link: www.microsoft.com...]

Thanks!

re: #115 Sergey Romanov

Sure, sure. If you say so.

I don't get you. Why the blind support for Amnesty?

re: #105 Sergey Romanov

Well worth watching: Talk to an Iraqi

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re: #46 000G

Image: huge-insect_2071941i.jpg

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

From the largest to the smallest:

How fairy wasps cope with being smaller than amoebas

re: #15 SanFranciscoZionist

Someone just sent me to this on Facebook. Anyone know anything about this scale? Is it considered significant? Thought it was quite interesting.

So the English speaking world isn't all insecure about their status as much as the rest of the world?

Iran's ambitious Quds Force chief linked to British embassy attack

LONDON: The storming of the British embassy in Tehran this week has further revealed the role of a growing, radical actor in Iranian foreign policy: the country's Quds Force.

The force is the external operations wing of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, one of the regime's most powerful institutions, with extensive economic and financial interests across the country.

Some of the rioters at the embassy held aloft pictures of the Quds Force commander, Major General Qassem Suleimani, around whom a personality cult is developing. There are claims that a known Quds commander was in the crowd.

Shocka!

Biden: No sign authorities behind embassy attack

ARBIL, Iraq - US Vice President Joe Biden said on Thursday he had no indication the attack on the British embassy in Tehran was orchestrated by Iranian authorities, but it was another example of why the country was a "pariah."

..."I don't have any indication how and/or if it was orchestrated," Biden told Reuters in an interview, of the attack on the British embassy on Tuesday. "But what I do know is that it is another example to the world and the region that these guys are basically a pariah internationally."

Huh?

re: #121 ggt

So the English speaking world isn't all insecure about their status as much as the rest of the world?

Sure we are...we just show off our rank in different ways.

re: #118 thedopefishlives

I don't get you. Why the blind support for Amnesty?

Ask someone who has it.

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You gotta love these holiday "O. Henry-esque" irony stories.

Denver's Arapahoe County

Must be something with that name.

:0

re: #119 negativ

tl;dw ;) What is it about?

re: #112 darthstar

It's not a river in Egypt.

or a city in China?

Morning all!

sleep well?

re: #114 Obdicut

Use Malware Bytes
[Link: www.malwarebytes.org...]

and windows defender

[Link: www.microsoft.com...]

I'm not fond of windows defender. Oh, it does a good job. I've also had it interfere with the other antivirus programs I use.

I'll put in a nod for spyware terminator as a solid alternative that works for me.

[edit to add] I also use hijackthis, but don't recommend it for casual users.

Just to be clear: pooh-poohing the usual dumb claims that a human-rights org is a bunch of anti-America, anti-Israel terrorist-supporters is not the same as being blindly supportive of the same org.

I've seen it all before, hurled towards many other human-rights org, in Russia ("they're pro-Chechen terror, anti-Russian libs!") and elsewhere. Won't work on me.

re: #114 Obdicut

I just scanned the computer with Malware Bytes....nothing found.

:)

re: #131 Sergey Romanov

Just to be clear: pooh-poohing the usual dumb claims that a human-rights org is a bunch of anti-America, anti-Israel terrorist-supporters is not the same as being blindly supportive of the same org.

I've seen it all before, hurled towards many other human-rights org, in Russia ("they're pro-Chechen terror, anti-Russian libs!") and elsewhere. Won't work on me.

That's great, if the claims were dumb. The reason I called you blindly supportive is because you reflexively accused me of recycling a "wingnut cliche" without bothering to address the facts.

re: #133 thedopefishlives

But then, of course, you haven't stated any facts, only the wingnut cliches.

re: #134 Sergey Romanov

But then, of course, you haven't stated any facts, only the wingnut cliches.

So linking to Charles's articles treating Amnesty International wasn't enough for you?

re: #131 Sergey Romanov

Just to be clear: pooh-poohing the usual dumb claims that a human-rights org is a bunch of anti-America, anti-Israel terrorist-supporters is not the same as being blindly supportive of the same org.

I've seen it all before, hurled towards many other human-rights org, in Russia ("they're pro-Chechen terror, anti-Russian libs!") and elsewhere. Won't work on me.

I'm with you. Amnesty International is a good org, and they have name-recognition for their work on high profile causes. I've supported them for years...even when they complained about US behavior (Hey, we're no saints).

re: #135 thedopefishlives

Um, no, linking to a bunch of articles of uncertain quality or relevance is not how you make a case.

re: #131 Sergey Romanov

Just to be clear: pooh-poohing the usual dumb claims that a human-rights org is a bunch of anti-America, anti-Israel terrorist-supporters is not the same as being blindly supportive of the same org.

I've seen it all before, hurled towards many other human-rights org, in Russia ("they're pro-Chechen terror, anti-Russian libs!") and elsewhere. Won't work on me.

It may seem that the human rights orgs have a double standard by focusing so much more on Israel, the U.S., U.K., but they do operate in places like Syria, Iran where it is much more dangerous for them and they can't easily get word out from those places.

Occupy protesters to rally to oppose plans for drone manufacturing center in Cedar Rapids

The drones weigh less than five pounds and can be navigated to help authorities do everything from search for lost people to manage forest fires and floods.

Protesters say they are concerned the drones will be used by police to conduct surveillance on law-abiding citizens. They are planning a rally in Cedar Rapids on Saturday protesting the company.

Australia may have good reason to have a (justified and necessary) crack-down on Scientology:

Valeska Paris, an Australian women and former Scientologist, has claimed that the Church of Scientology imprisoned her for twelve years aboard the Scientology-owned cruise ship, Freewinds.

Paris claims she was first sent to the ship aged eighteen for two weeks as a teenager but ended up spending twelve years there. Paris also claims that her passport was taken away from her and forced her to work in the engine room.

re: #138 Alouette

It may seem that the human rights orgs have a double standard by focusing so much more on Israel, the U.S., U.K., but they do operate in places like Syria, Iran where it is much more dangerous for them and they can't easily get word out from those places.

It's not that they focus on the US and Israel more than other countries...it's just that we don't like it when they focus on the US and Israel. It makes us uncomfortable to admit that Bush was a crappy president or that Netanyahu is a wingnut in serious need of checks and balances.

Ut oh... unemployment drops to 8.6%... "It's the economy, stupid..." won't work for the Teabaggers if this trend continues... Good. Oh, but who am I kidding... they've long since abandoned anything that makes even a modicum of sense.

re: #140 ProLifeLiberal

Australia may have good reason to have a (justified and necessary) crack-down on Scientology:

Bizarre organization, IMHO

re: #142 efuseakay

Ut oh... unemployment drops to 8.6%... "It's the economy, stupid..." won't work for the Teabaggers if this trend continues... Good. Oh, but who am I kidding... they've long since abandoned anything that makes even a modicum of sense.

The Dow is having a nice day. +110

re: #137 Sergey Romanov

Um, no, linking to a bunch of articles of uncertain quality or relevance is not how you make a case.

Well, forgive me for having more respect for our vaunted webmaster than you do. I won't bother to quote him as a reliable source around here anymore.

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Occupy protesters to rally to oppose plans for drone manufacturing center in Cedar Rapids

Protesters say they are concerned the drones will be used by police to conduct surveillance on law-abiding citizens.

The Occupy protesters are against save lives and searching for missing children?

re: #141 darthstar

It's not that they focus on the US and Israel more than other countries...it's just that we don't like it when they focus on the US and Israel. It makes us uncomfortable to admit that Bush was a crappy president or that Netanyahu is a wingnut in serious need of checks and balances.

It's a whole lot easier to report on country's that won't disappear you. :)

Honestly, I think there is a fear factor involved.

re: #141 darthstar

But then, I wouldn't be surprised if they do churn out more material on democratic countries. Because it's much freaking easier to access than in non-democratic ones!

re: #143 ggt

There needs to be some investigations, and should it prove law-breaking (like I think it will), a crack-down on their operations here.

re: #146 NJDhockeyfan

The Occupy protesters are against save lives and searching for missing children?

Must be part of the Rapey-Stabby agenda.

re: #145 thedopefishlives

LOL, argumentum ad Carolum!

You do know that it's not 2005 now, right?

re: #142 efuseakay

The participation rate dropped to 64 percent, from 64.2 percent in October, representing 315,000 fewer job-seekers.

Gee , if we could just convince another couple of million people to stop seeking jobs (participating), the rate will be below 5%!!!!

DRINK!

re: #151 Sergey Romanov

LOL, argumentum ad Caroli!

You do know that it's not 2005 now, right?

No, that's next year. We are dealing with Big Brother this year . . .

/need to learn the purple text trick.

re: #151 Sergey Romanov

LOL, argumentum ad Caroli!

You do know that it's not 2005 now, right?

reminds me
I need a new watch battery

re: #151 Sergey Romanov

LOL, argumentum ad Caroli!

You do know that it's not 2005 now, right?

No, it completely escaped my notice.

But, whatever. I'm tired of looking stupid, so, you win. I'm done.

re: #152 sattv4u2

The participation rate dropped to 64 percent, from 64.2 percent in October, representing 315,000 fewer job-seekers.

Gee , if we could just convince another couple of million people to stop seeking jobs (participating), the rate will be below 5%!!!

DRINK!

Unemployment rate falls to lowest since March 2009

WASHINGTON—The U.S. unemployment rate fell last month to its lowest level in more than 2 1/2 years.

That is great news!

More people out of work either found jobs or gave up looking and were no longer counted as unemployed.

Oh, that really sucks. How accurate is this 8.6% number?

re: #145 thedopefishlives

Well, forgive me for having more respect for our vaunted webmaster than you do. I won't bother to quote him as a reliable source around here anymore.

Charles has warned that his views have changed and he may no longer endorse pages that were posted here years ago.

What is the purpose of virginity?

I don't get it.

And why is it a State issue.

Isn't it an individual issue?

re: #155 thedopefishlives

No, it completely escaped my notice.

This explains why you still think the Iraq war was a good idea.

re: #158 ggt

What is the purpose of virginity?

I don't get it.

I think I'll tell my daughters they are not allowed to drive until they are married.

//

re: #158 ggt

What is the purpose of virginity?

I don't get it.

Not that I like it but virginity especially in a woman in many cultures is seen as proof she's a pure an virtuous woman. As I said, not that I agree and I definiately don't see virginity having anything to do with women driving.

re: #160 NJDhockeyfan

I think I'll tell my daughters they are not allowed to drive until they are married.

//

Have fun playing chauffeur!

re: #158 ggt

What is the purpose of virginity?

I don't get it.

Well,, maybe if you put on some nice music, opened a bottle of wine and wore a sexy nightgown!!

/

re: #147 ggt

It's a legitimate fear, though. Every published article with any accuracy from those areas puts people in danger-- the people responsible for the information.

I'm disinclined to think that the number of publications really have any straightforward importance in showing what Amnesty's priorities are. Amnesty has condemned Hezbollah, whereas a lot of people like to claim they haven't.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

And they've condemend Hamas.

[Link: www.amnesty.org...]

[Link: www.amnesty.org...]

And they did call out the mistreatment of Shalit and condemn it

[Link: www.amnesty.org...]

re: #159 Sergey Romanov

This explains why you still think the Iraq war was a good idea.

Now you're making it personal. I'm outta here. Later Lizardim.

re: #164 Obdicut

But but but they only did it to cover their asses! ///

Most human rights groups whose websites I read seem to go after all sorts pf violations and violators. In fact, I remember using AI's website when I wanted to argue that Hugo Chavez was a despot. Also human rights groups were condemning the Taliban long before many of us knew what the Taliban was.

re: #164 Obdicut

It's a legitimate fear, though. Every published article with any accuracy from those areas puts people in danger-- the people responsible for the information.

I'm disinclined to think that the number of publications really have any straightforward importance in showing what Amnesty's priorities are. Amnesty has condemned Hezbollah, whereas a lot of people like to claim they haven't.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

And they've condemend Hamas.

[Link: www.amnesty.org...]

[Link: www.amnesty.org...]

And they did call out the mistreatment of Shalit and condemn it

[Link: www.amnesty.org...]

True, it is, yet if these organizations and Journalists want the high status they seem think they deserve, they should overcome their fear.

I don't have a lot of sympathy. If you choose to work in an area in which civil rights are severely curtailed, you have to expect to take the risk yourself. Either you work for truth or you don't.

re: #168 ggt

True, it is, yet if these organizations and Journalists want the high status they seem think they deserve, they should overcome their fear.

I'm sorry, that brush is too broad. There is nothing wrong with a reporter who stays inside his own safe, democratic country and reports on conditions there. I have no idea what you mean by the respect that 'they' seem to think they deserve. I'm no lover of the media, but I think you're confusing the mass media as a corporate entity with the actual individual reporters and investigators.

re: #168 ggt

It's still morning and that wasn't as clear as I would have liked it to be.

I think the reporting on these issues is the biggest problem. Perhaps the Truth doesn't sell Corporate Media Products. Israel's alledged infractions do?

Aw Hell, I'm just going to shut-up and make sarcastic jokes until the coffee kicks in.

re: #168 ggt

And you don't have a lot of sympathy for what? For a journalist jailed, tortured, killed by an oppressive state?

re: #171 Obdicut

And you don't have a lot of sympathy for what? For a journalist jailed, tortured, killed by an oppressive state?

C my #170

re: #170 ggt

You think the reporting on these issues is the biggest problem in what way?

re: #110 NJDhockeyfan

Which ones are the best? I use Kaspersky anti-virus.

Linux.

Amnesty Int'l Finland: Israel scum state

BERLIN – The head of Amnesty International’s Finnish branch, Frank Johansson, told The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday that he stands by his statement that Israel is a “scum state.”

Writing in his blog, which appears on the Web site of Finland’s third largest newspaper Iltalehti, Johansson wrote on Monday that “A friend of mine who works in Israel was visiting [and] while piling wood in the shed, we got to [talking about] his favourite topic. [After] several years of residence in the Holy Land, he has come to the conclusion that ‘Israel is a scum state.’ Based on my own visit[s], which occurred during the 1970s and for the last time in the 1990s, I agree.”

re: #173 Obdicut

You think the reporting on these issues is the biggest problem in what way?

As, I said, I'm not awake enough.

We'll have to resume this conversation when I am able to converse clearly.

re: #174 000G

Linux.

KGB-proof! /

re: #175 NJDhockeyfan

Let the wiki-googled passive-aggressive bombardment begin!

Misleading headline, BTW, since this guy wasn't stating an official AI position.

Amnesty's overview of the Middle Eastern revolutionary attempts is pretty interesting reading

[Link: www.amnesty.org...]

Perhaps I could say, in general, I am always pleasantly surprised when I visit websites of different organizations The Corporate Media Product gives us such little information on which to form opinions.

Even visiting the White House Office of Science and Technology website last night was an eye-opener. There is a lot of good information out there. A lot of people working to do the right thing.

I don't think the MSM does a good job of telling us that.

There does that make sense?

re: #180 ggt

What does that have to do with Amnesty International?

re: #144 Killgore Trout

The Dow is having a nice day. +110

Btw:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

re: #177 Sergey Romanov

KGB-proof! /

Guaranteed!

re: #178 Sergey Romanov

Let the wiki-googled passive-aggressive bombardment begin!

Misleading headline, BTW, since this guy wasn't stating an official AI position.

OK...

Amnesty approves controversial anti-Israel event

LONDON – Amnesty International is allowing a controversial event deemed as anti-Israel to take place despite widespread calls to cancel the event.

Protesters were set to mass outside Amnesty’s headquarters in London on Monday night following its decision to allow the event “Complicity in Oppression: Do the Media Aid Israel?” to go ahead.

The event was organized by London-based magazine Middle East Monitor Online (MEMO)and the campaign group Palestine Solidarity Campaign.

A spokesman for Amnesty told The Jerusalem Post on Monday that the event will take place since the event’s organizers responded to their concerns about MEMO and the participation of Abdel Bari Atwan, editor of the London-based al- Quds al-Arabi newspaper.

In 2007, Atwan declared that he would “dance with delight” in Trafalgar Square if Iran attacked Israel, and in 2008, he said the terrorist attack on the Mercaz HaRav yeshiva, in which eight students were killed, “was justified” as it was responsible for “hatching Israeli extremists and fundamentalists.”

re: #181 Obdicut

What does that have to do with Amnesty International?

Probably nothing.

re: #146 NJDhockeyfan

Protesters say they are concerned the drones will be used by police to conduct surveillance on law-abiding citizens.

The Occupy protesters are against save lives and searching for missing children?

Ah yes, you are the guy who believes abuse of power doesn't exist when it comes to the police.

But yeah, it's coming:

[Link: seattletimes.nwsource.com...]
[Link: mynorthwest.com...]

I think that's a trend started by the UK aka CCTV Country:

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

re: #156 NJDhockeyfan

Unemployment rate falls to lowest since March 2009

That is great news!

Oh, that really sucks. How accurate is this 8.6% number?

Why do you only bold the part that shows people dropping out of the workforce but ignore that more people out of work found jobs?

Regardless, the rate is 8.6. A lot of it is due to upward revisions going back several months, including the big goose egg in August.

Deal with it.

Keep cheering for a bad economy, it is the republicans only hope!

re: #182 000G

Btw:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Hmmm, not good. Pundits are often full of shit and have agendas. Money guys don't fuck around. Those aren't good indicators.

Since the topic is still ongoing: ADL Calls Amnesty International Report "Bigoted, Biased, And Borderline Anti-Semitic

re: #189 Killgore Trout

Since the topic is still ongoing: ADL Calls Amnesty International Report "Bigoted, Biased, And Borderline Anti-Semitic

ADL is equal opportunity when it comes to Antisemitism and bigotry. Same for groups like the SPLC.

re: #190 HappyWarrior

ADL is equal opportunity when it comes to Antisemitism and bigotry. Same for groups like the SPLC.

Agreed, I think they're generally fair and honest.

re: #182 000G

I paged this from wired. I think you brought it up yesterday? I had left a Thomas link but ran out of time to look through it.
Senate Wants the Military to Lock You Up Without Trial

re: #189 Killgore Trout

Since the topic is still ongoing: ADL Calls Amnesty International Report "Bigoted, Biased, And Borderline Anti-Semitic

Related:

Amnesty’s obsession with Israel

Even in a month when war raged in Georgia, Amnesty International continued to focus on the Gaza Strip, persistently blaming Israel for ongoing Palestinian hardship.

Amnesty, in fact, issued harsher condemnations of Israel than of any party to the Georgian conflict. With a ceasefire holding between Israel and Hamas, resulting in a period of calm, Amnesty stubbornly continued to spew hollow publications repeating outdated allegations.

Moreover, Amnesty took pride in its relentless criticism of Israel, while the rest of the world rightly concerned itself with the unfolding crisis in Georgia. In a press release, the organization boasted: “With the ceasefire holding, the suffering in Gaza has fallen off the international news agenda. However, Amnesty International members continue to campaign.” This “explanation” merely highlights Amnesty's obsession with Israel, regardless of the reality on the ground.

re: #191 Killgore Trout

Agreed, I think they're generally fair and honest.

Yeah, I've seeen them go after left wing and right wing AntiSemites with the same vigor. You know you're doing your job if nuts on each side thinks you're a shill for the other.

BOMB SCARE: Issa threat linked to earlier protest

A bomb threat that emptied Inland Rep. Darrell Issa's Southern California district office last week is being investigated as linked to a protest involving people associated with a MoveOn.org and Occupy North County, the Riverside-area Republican disclosed.

re: #192 Rightwingconspirator

I paged this from wired. I think you brought it up yesterday? I had left a Thomas link but ran out of time to look through it.
Senate Wants the Military to Lock You Up Without Trial

I'd say this is pretty much exactly what the Founding Fathers didn't want when they wrote the Constitution.

re: #187 blueraven

More than half the jobs added last month were by retailers, restaurants and bars, a sign that holiday hiring has kicked in.

It's not "cheering for a bad economy"

It's knowing that those seasonal jobs, while good for people to get a paycheck, are two to three months at best

re: #188 Killgore Trout

Those aren't good indicators.

Do you mean the extension on gains or the doubts on sustainability (asking because the other day you seemed to hope for a military coup)?

re: #198 000G

Do you mean the extension on gains or the doubts on sustainability (asking because the other day you seemed to hope for a military coup)?

bullshit...repost the comment

re: #195 Killgore Trout

BOMB SCARE: Issa threat linked to earlier protest

Holy shit! That's fucked up.

re: #198 000G

Do you mean the extension on gains or the doubts on sustainability (asking because the other day you seemed to hope for a military coup)?

The doubts on sustainability. I think an Egypt run by the MB and even more radical Salifist groups would be a disaster for far too many reasons to list. I'm not sure what the possibilities are but I don't think it's likely that the military is just going to drop the ball and walk away. Continued military leadership or at least some sort of power sharing arrangement is probably the best thing for everybody.

re: #200 NJDhockeyfan

Holy shit! That's fucked up.

Not surprising. Some OWS douche was arrested for threatening Niki Haley last week. Idiots.

re: #199 albusteve

bullshit...repost the comment

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

never got an answer, anyhow: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #202 Killgore Trout

Not surprising. Some OWS douche was arrested for threatening Niki Haley last week. Idiots.

Well...that was just one douche.

////.

re: #197 sattv4u2

More than half the jobs added last month were by retailers, restaurants and bars, a sign that holiday hiring has kicked in.

It's not "cheering for a bad economy"

It's knowing that those seasonal jobs, while good for people to get a paycheck, are two to three months at best

Job numbers are seasonally adjusted as I am sure you know. No matter how you parse it. Things are going in a good direction.

re: #203 000G

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

never got an answer, anyhow: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I retract

re: #201 Killgore Trout

The doubts on sustainability. I think an Egypt run by the MB and even more radical Salifist groups would be a disaster for far too many reasons to list. I'm not sure what the possibilities are but I don't think it's likely that the military is just going to drop the ball and walk away. Continued military leadership or at least some sort of power sharing arrangement is probably the best thing for everybody.

If the military takes control, the revolution is lost. It's not Turkey there (yet, anyhow). I think the better outcomes are increasing the split between young and old within the MB, as well as helping the local liberals and socialists. I agree that the Salafists are a lost cause, though.

Image: Paul-Krugman.jpg

*sigh*

Herman Cain Launches ‘Women For Cain’ With Brutal Attacks On ‘Husbandless’ Accusers

Self-awareness -- he haz none. Also, this doesn't do the GOP any favors.

re: #202 Killgore Trout

Not surprising. Some OWS douche was arrested for threatening Niki Haley last week. Idiots.

re: #204 NJDhockeyfan

Well...that was just one douche.

///.

You two are hitting it off this morning...OWS! AMNESTY! OWS! AMNESTY! Oh, god, I think I just came.

re: #208 JasonA

Image: Paul-Krugman.jpg

lol think progress

Is that before or after his blog flipout?

This is the most hilarious attack on marriage equality yet.
[Link: www.rightwingwatch.org...]
Man now I know why my Harvard educated second cousin who's a guy wanted to marry his partner of many years, welfare!

re: #209 Lidane

*sigh*

Herman Cain Launches ‘Women For Cain’ With Brutal Attacks On ‘Husbandless’ Accusers
Class-- he haz none. Also, this doesn't do the GOP any favors.

FIFY

re: #210 darthstar

Needs more Jane Fonda and Jimmy Carter.

re: #212 HappyWarrior

This is the most hilarious attack on marriage equality yet.
[Link: www.rightwingwatch.org...]
Man now I know why my Harvard educated second cousin who's a guy wanted to marry his partner of many years, welfare!

That's almost as stupid as the whole "I don't oppose gay marriage. Gays can marry people of the opposite gender all they want!" canard.

WTF.

re: #209 Lidane

*sigh*

Herman Cain Launches ‘Women For Cain’ With Brutal Attacks On ‘Husbandless’ Accusers

Self-awareness -- he haz none. Also, this doesn't do the GOP any favors.

Whoa, look at the many thousands of women not accusing him of sexual harassment!

re: #212 HappyWarrior

This is the most hilarious attack on marriage equality yet.
[Link: www.rightwingwatch.org...]
Man now I know why my Harvard educated second cousin who's a guy wanted to marry his partner of many years, welfare!

Of course, real life is exactly like that Adam Sandler movie where two straight guys pretended to be married just so they could get health benefits!
//

re: #211 000G

lol think progress

Is that before or after his blog flipout?

After.

re: #215 Lidane

That's almost as stupid as the whole "I don't oppose gay marriage. Gays can marry people of the opposite gender all they want!" canard.

WTF.

Yeah Bachmann has the crown so far but Mr. Usher just gave her a run for the stupid.

re: #217 Alouette

Of course, real life is exactly like that Adam Sandler movie where two straight guys pretended to be married just so they could get health benefits!
//

Yeah, Dave Usher probably saw I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry and thought it was a documentary.

re: #216 JasonA

Whoa, look at the many thousands of women not accusing him of sexual harassment!

It's the law of averages, apparently. It doesn't matter if a few women accuse him of anything as long as millions more don't. That balances everything out.

WTF.

re: #216 JasonA

Whoa, look at the many thousands of women not accusing him of sexual harassment!

It's like they saw the FoD video and thought man that's a great idea. Herman Cain didn't sexually harass me either by the way so that's proof he's not a scumbag.

re: #207 000G

If the military takes control, the revolution is lost. It's not Turkey there (yet, anyhow). I think the better outcomes are increasing the split between young and old within the MB, as well as helping the local liberals and socialists. I agree that the Salafists are a lost cause, though.

Of course that would have been much better but that's starting to look pretty unlikely.

re: #209 Lidane

*sigh*

Herman Cain Launches ‘Women For Cain’ With Brutal Attacks On ‘Husbandless’ Accusers

Self-awareness -- he haz none. Also, this doesn't do the GOP any favors.

wtf?

The initiative, the site says, is chaired by his wife, Gloria Cain, who has been virtually 100% absent from the campaign trail so far and only recently gave her first interview — and that was after canceling previous ones first.

right from the site:

"Gloria Cain is the National Chairperson for "Women for Cain" and is the very special woman who Mr. Cain devoted his life to many years ago."

And then the testimonies.... It's like a "serious" version of that Funny or Die sketch… wtf is happening? This campaign feels like a bad acid trip.

Compost delivery. I gotta go shovel some real world shit for a while.

re: #213 HappyWarrior

FIFY

Well, yes. Being utterly classless is a given for Cain, especially after his total fail from yesterday.

Still, you'd think that someone in his campaign would have enough self-awareness not to launch that Women For Cain site today, AFTER he admits that his wife didn't know he was financially supporting another woman.

It's a godddamn Keystone Kops operation over at Cain HQ.

re: #226 Lidane

Well, yes. Being utterly classless is a given for Cain, especially after his total fail from yesterday.

Still, you'd think that someone in his campaign would have enough self-awareness not to launch that Women For Cain site today, AFTER he admits that his wife didn't know he was financially supporting another woman.

It's a godddamn Keystone Kops operation over at Cain HQ.

Yeah, I think his campaign is a bigger fail than a Palin one would be. I think he's only sought office once his whole life and man does it show.

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Of course that would have been much better but that's starting to look pretty unlikely.

I just don't see any evidence for the hypothesis that all is lost already and that everybody must resign themselves to Mubarak 2.0.

Voting takes place until January. We'll see.

re: #226 Lidane

But we're still talking about him. And that's all that matters when you're selling books.

re: #229 darthstar

But we're still talking about him. And that's all that matters when you're selling books.

Selling books, sure. Trying to run for the GOP nomination, not so much.

I'm starting to wonder if he didn't run this pathetic joke of a campaign to make his buddy Newt look more attractive by default. The fact that ANYONE is seriously supporting Newt in the aftermath of all this is both incredibly convenient and mind-blowing.

re: #228 000G

I just don't see any evidence for the hypothesi that all is lost already and that everybody must resign themselves to Mubarak 2.0.

America started its democracy BEFORE THE INTERNET even, and we did it without any internal strife...it's been over 200 years of pure love and community in this country since the start...Slavery, Secession, Civil War, Segregation, and a few other things not withstanding...why can't these fledgling democracies be more like us?

re: #230 Lidane

If Obama wasn't president right now, Republicans would have kicked Cain to the curb months ago and a lot of people wouldn't even know who he is.

Work is calling.

Cheers!

re: #184 NJDhockeyfan

OK...

Amnesty approves controversial anti-Israel event

Yes, the UK branch has shown very bad judgment, by allowing this to take place on their territory. Some of their officials may have anti-Israel bias, or are clueless about some things, or both. I don't think this speaks of the org as a whole. If you show that the people who write and approve the relevant reports are biased, then you may have a point. Until then, meh.

re: #189 Killgore Trout

Since the topic is still ongoing: ADL Calls Amnesty International Report "Bigoted, Biased, And Borderline Anti-Semitic

Foxman is hardly an unbiased source when it comes to all things Israel, and especially to criticism of Israel's policy or actions. Cf. his kid gloves treatment of Glenn Beck, who gets mildly criticized, but is basically let off the hook because he is allegedly such a good friend of Israel. And just as easily, "ADL's reaction to Park51 center is bigoted, biased and borderline Islamophobic", etc.

What I love about the whole thing is Cain's downfall is largely tied to his woman problems. So who is the candidate gaining most in the primary? Why serial adulterer Newt who confuses sex drive with passion for country. I guess Newt respects women more than Cain if you can believe his Ali G interview.

re: #232 darthstar

If Obama wasn't president right now, Republicans would have kicked Cain to the curb months ago and a lot of people wouldn't even know who he is.

Just like they would have ignored Caribou Barbie in 2008 if Hillary had won the nomination.

re: #232 darthstar

If Obama wasn't president right now, Republicans would have kicked Cain to the curb months ago and a lot of people wouldn't even know who he is.

Probably would be in Gary Johnson territory now. Cain's rise is perplexing as hell. Never seen a guy with so little understanding of government rise so high in a presidential primary.

re: #236 Lidane

Just like they would have ignored Caribou Barbie in 2008 if Hillary had won the nomination.

Oh, hell yes...McCain would have gotten his first pick, Joe Lieberman, as his vp candidate.

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Probably would be in Gary Johnson territory now. Cain's rise is perplexing as hell. Never seen a guy with so little understanding of government rise so high in a presidential primary.

At least Gary Johnson can ride a motorcycle and climb a rock.

re: #230 Lidane

I'm starting to wonder if he didn't run this pathetic joke of a campaign to make his buddy Newt look more attractive by default. The fact that ANYONE is seriously supporting Newt in the aftermath of all tihs is both incredibly convenient and mind-blowing.

Speaking of Newt, let's refresh our memories with some of his quotable quotes of yore:

Females have biological problems staying in a ditch for 30 days because they get infections and don't have upper body strength

Newt Gingrich, establishment Republican and… Socialist?

I fucking hate anonymous blocks in AutoCAD.

re: #234 Sergey Romanov

Foxman clearly is ambivalent:

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re: #239 darthstar

At least Gary Johnson can ride a motorcycle and climb a rock.

Probably also doesn't think it's constitutional for communities to ban mosques but that's a lower bar than a limbo bar.

re: #243 000G

I know.

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Probably would be in Gary Johnson territory now. Cain's rise is perplexing as hell. Never seen a guy with so little understanding of government rise so high in a presidential primary.

It's the same GOP ignorance that got Sarah Palin on McCain's ticket in 2008.

Hillary Clinton lost the nomination, so the GOP looked for a photogenic Republican woman as a generic substitute, figuring that any woman would do to pull in support. With Cain, someone on the right figured that any black guy would do to run against Obama.

It's that lack of understanding that will doom the GOP into completely alienating women and minorities and being a regional white party.

re: #246 Lidane

It's the same GOP ignorance that got Sarah Palin on McCain's ticket in 2008.

Hillary Clinton lost the nomination, so the GOP looked for a photogenic Republican woman as a generic substitute, figuring that any woman would do to pull in support. With Cain, someone on the right figured that any black guy would do to run against Obama.

It's that lack of understanding that will doom the GOP into completely alienating women and minorities and being a regional white party.

Like when they ran Alan Keyes against Obama in the Illinois Senate race?

re: #245 Sergey Romanov

I know.

Just agreeing with you with additional sources/perspective.

Believe none of what you hear and very little of what you think you know

-unknown

I'm off to try to be productive.

Have a great morning all!