In the end, it wasn’t his stunning bigotry, total ignorance of foreign affairs, or laughable economic ideas that brought down Herman Cain. It was a consensual affair between two adults.
But at least he went out on a note of pure class, with a profound quote from Donna Summer’s theme song for “Pokémon: The Movie 2000.”
So ends perhaps the most hilarious chapter ever in the saga of right wing politics.
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recusancy Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:40:53am |
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:41:59am |
And I drink to you Mr. Uzbekibekibeki President. And the idea that it’s constitutional to close mosques.
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Racer X Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:43:00am |
I’m still gonna vote for him. I’ll write his name on the ballot. He is the right guy to run the country.
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:43:50am |
Glor-ee-uh! Glor-ee-uh! Glor-ee-uh!
Was that her first campaign appearance with Herman?
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Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:44:25am |
I’m already nostalgic. I’ll always remember where I was when I first saw Mark Block taking a ragged hit off a cigarette in a Herman Cain political ad.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:45:31am |
The stock photo of “four happy young women with their thumbs up” on Cain’s “Women for Cain” page has been replaced with a picture of Cain and his wife.
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:45:44am |
re: #3 Racer X
I’m still gonna vote for him. I’ll write his name on the ballot. He is the right guy to run the country.
A write-in for a primary? Are you serious?
Especially when there are so many kooks still available to choose from, that seems like a waste.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:46:16am |
It ain’t over ‘till the fat lady sings, as in the time between suspending and ending. We have plenty of humor to come.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:47:57am |
Look on the bright side - now he’s free to go on Dancing with the Stars.
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:48:09am |
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recusancy Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:52:45am |
Don’t forget about the Mike Huckabee Presidential Forum tonight at 8!
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Ghost of a Dopefish Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:52:50am |
The thing is, the “consensual affair” was more the straw that broke the camel’s back. I think the not-quite-so-consensual allegations of sexual harassment were a bit more damaging overall.
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funky chicken Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:53:33am |
To be followed by perhaps the most frightening: the rise of The Gingrich.
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jaunte Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:53:33am |
“Obviously, false accusations and confusion about some of my positions has contributed to it, and that was to be expected,” the Republican presidential candidate said. “In terms of the mechanics of the campaign, nothing has gone wrong.”
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:53:48am |
re: #14 recusancy
Don’t forget about the Mike Huckabee Presidential Forum tonight at 8!
boy, I can’t wait to miss that one
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:54:51am |
re: #15 thedopefishlives
The thing is, the “consensual affair” was more the straw that broke the camel’s back. I think the not-quite-so-consensual allegations of sexual harassment were a bit more damaging overall.
the guy can’t find his ass with both hands…doomed from his own stupidity
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:55:18am |
And the Republican Comedy Show continues.
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:55:31am |
re: #17 jaunte
“Obviously, false accusations and confusion about some of my positions has contributed to it, and that was to be expected,” the Republican presidential candidate said. “In terms of the mechanics of the campaign, nothing has gone wrong.”
The bus didn’t break down once!
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Interesting Times Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:55:57am |
re: #14 recusancy
Don’t forget about the Mike Huckabee Presidential Forum tonight at 8!
Could Mike Huckabee get in the GOP race now if he wanted, or have too many filing deadlines passed?
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:56:53am |
re: #21 wrenchwench
The bus didn’t break down once!
maybe his handlers shooting pizza sauce all day had an effect
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Targetpractice Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:57:14am |
re: #15 thedopefishlives
The thing is, the “consensual affair” was more the straw that broke the camel’s back. I think the not-quite-so-consensual allegations of sexual harassment were a bit more damaging overall.
Yeah, but at the same time, the allegations had actually begun to ebb and his campaign might have been able to weather it for another month. The 13 year long consensual affair that he kept quiet from his wife pretty much served to reopen the wound and rub a mountain of salt into it.
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funky chicken Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:57:24am |
I’ve got A&E on in the background. The show is “monster in-laws” or something. Those people can’t be real. Does anybody know if these supposed reality shows are actors? Tell me these people aren’t for real.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:58:06am |
re: #26 funky chicken
I’ve got A&E on in the background. The show is “monster in-laws” or something. Those people can’t be real. Does anybody know if these supposed reality shows are actors? Tell me these people aren’t for real.
they are real….you aren’t!
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recusancy Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:58:56am |
re: #22 publicityStunted
Could Mike Huckabee get in the GOP race now if he wanted, or have too many filing deadlines passed?
passed
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Interesting Times Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:59:00am |
re: #26 funky chicken
I’ve got A&E on in the background. The show is “monster in-laws” or something. Those people can’t be real. Does anybody know if these supposed reality shows are actors? Tell me these people aren’t for real.
You’re participating in detailed discussions about the GOP presidential race. How can anything else shock you at this point? :/
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Racer X Sat, Dec 3, 2011 11:59:52am |
re: #20 PhillyPretzel
And the Republican Comedy Show continues.
They all suck. Both sides. If we fired every politician and their staffs, and replaced them with random people from the unemployment lines, we could do no worse.
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andres Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:00:29pm |
re: #11 Charles
Look on the bright side - now he’s free to go on Dancing with the Stars.
If that’s the bright side, I do not want to see the other side…
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jaunte Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:00:49pm |
re: #5 wrenchwench
Glor-ee-uh! Glor-ee-uh! Glor-ee-uh!
Was that her first campaign appearance with Herman?
I wonder if she made a deal with him to hang in there a bit longer and increase the total pot they’ll split.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:01:07pm |
Howard Kurtz tweeted that Cain’s speech was a “Masterful performance so far.”
[Link: twitter.com…]
Uh, what?
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:02:09pm |
re: #30 Racer X
They all suck. Both sides. If we fired every politician and their staffs, and replaced them with random people from the unemployment lines, we could do no worse.
as for me, I think the office is way overblown
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Ghost of a Dopefish Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:04:00pm |
re: #33 Charles
Howard Kurtz tweeted that Cain’s speech was a “Masterful performance so far.”
[Link: twitter.com…]
Uh, what?
Well, he does have a point. That’s one of the best polished turds I’ve ever seen come from a politician.
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jaunte Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:05:19pm |
re: #37 kevrobin45
If it weren’t for the phone records, he’d still be running.
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Racer X Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:05:22pm |
re: #34 albusteve
as for me, I think the office is way overblown
Both sides use their political connections to get filthy rich. Dems and Repubs.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:05:34pm |
re: #37 kevrobin45
I didn’t know he admited to the affair.
doesn’t matter…the public is judge and jury
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Decatur Deb Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:06:20pm |
re: #37 kevrobin45
I didn’t know he admited to the affair.
Didn’t. “The bitch set me up” or words to that effect.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:06:21pm |
Massive left-wing media conspiracy! They just cannot cope with the threat of a successful conservative black candidate!!1!1!
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HoosierHoops Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:07:02pm |
re: #40 albusteve
doesn’t matter…the public is judge and jury
Damn Right…We vote with our judgement..
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Racer X Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:07:05pm |
I’m with OWS crowd - we need a revolution and overthrow the government. Replace it with a true democracy where we all vote to give ourselves cool shit.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:07:12pm |
re: #42 ralphieboy
Massive left-wing media conspiracy! They just cannot cope with the threat of a successful conservative black candidate!!1!1!
Yes we can.
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jaunte Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:07:22pm |
Doesn’t everyone check on their secret female friends and proteges at four in the morning?
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Ghost of a Dopefish Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:07:31pm |
re: #42 ralphieboy
Massive left-wing media conspiracy! They just cannot cope with the threat of a successful
conservativetrue black candidate!!1!1!
FTFY
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andres Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:07:37pm |
On one hand, I’m happy that Cain is out. Had he won all the way (which I doubt very much), he would have been very devastating.
OTOH, Cain is just one of many candidates that have devastating policies.
re: #37 kevrobin45
I didn’t know he admited to the affair.
He’s been going thru the standard excuses used when an affair is blown.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:08:26pm |
re: #39 Racer X
Both sides use their political connections to get filthy rich. Dems and Repubs.
that’s a fact…Pelosi claims to support legislation to end congressional insider trading….after she’s made her bundle…it’s all a bad joke
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labman57 Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:10:10pm |
“I am at peace with my wife and she is at peace with me” — Famous last words … and then you wake up the next morning to find your wife hovering over you with a bloody kitchen knife in one hand and your testicles in the other.
Herm should have simply “pulled a Newt” and proclaimed that God has spoken to him and has forgiven him for any (alleged) indiscretions.
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Racer X Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:10:28pm |
re: #49 albusteve
that’s a fact…Pelosi claims to support legislation to end congressional insider trading…after she’s made her bundle…it’s all a bad joke
She is the biggest freaking hypocrite of them all.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:11:49pm |
re: #44 Racer X
I’m with OWS crowd - we need a revolution and overthrow the government. Replace it with a true democracy where we all vote to give ourselves cool shit.
Free Ipad for everybody!
I’ve been enjoying Iranian state media coverage of OWS lately.
‘OWS to become major challenge for US’
“[The protests] have freedom-seeking and anti-arrogance dimensions and aim to oppose the hegemonic system which has humiliated people for many years,” Fars News Agency quoted her as saying.
Elahian noted that in a recent visit to the United States, the Iranian human rights delegation visited New York’s Zuccotti park, where OWS movement started, and talked to American protesters.
She described the park as having been surrounded by police cars and said people took refuge in nearby churches before going back to the park.
“Due to extreme cold, some of them nearly froze to death…but their [high] motivation and steadfastness proves that their movement will continue,” she added.
They had a report earlier that the government was using snipers to shoot OWS protesters.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:12:42pm |
In the near future Herman Cain will use the race card or some other similar excuse to “explain” what happened.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:12:55pm |
re: #52 Killgore Trout
“They had a report earlier that the government was using snipers to shoot OWS protesters.”
Why should they expect us do deal with them any differently than they deal with their own protesters?
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:13:15pm |
re: #48 andres
On one hand, I’m happy that Cain is out. Had he won all the way (which I doubt very much), he would have been very devastating.
OTOH, Cain is just one of many candidates that have devastating policies.
He’s been going thru the standard excuses used when an affair is blown.
we are so fortunate that BO has given us the gift of hope and change…he’s united this great country and now we all eat weeds
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Targetpractice Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:13:49pm |
re: #53 PhillyPretzel
In the near future Herman Cain will use the race card or some other similar excuse to “explain” what happened.
Yeah, as if he doesn’t already have his “supporters” playing it as the only card in their deck.
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Racer X Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:13:56pm |
re: #52 Killgore Trout
They had a report earlier that the government was using snipers to shoot OWS protesters.
LMAO!
See! See! We aren’t near as bad as those fascist Americans!
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:15:26pm |
re: #56 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
And they will play the “victim” as long as possible.
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sagehen Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:16:31pm |
re: #37 kevrobin45
I didn’t know he admited to the affair.
His lawyer’s statement was something close to “the private activities of consenting adults are nobody’s business, we shouldn’t even be discussing this.”
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:16:39pm |
Cain’s Post Campaign theme song….
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:17:49pm |
re: #59 sagehen
His lawyer’s statement was something close to “the private activities of consenting adults are nobody’s business, we shouldn’t even be discussing this.”
gosh, maybe he’s right….
bwahahaha!
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Targetpractice Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:17:55pm |
re: #59 sagehen
His lawyer’s statement was something close to “the private activities of consenting adults are nobody’s business, we shouldn’t even be discussing this.”
Yep, the ol’ “It’s between him and his wife” bit that we’ve heard whenever politicians got caught with someone other than said wife.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:18:49pm |
re: #52 Killgore Trout
Standard practice for totalitarian regimes. The Soviet Union made a big show of “supporting” the Vietnam War protesters too. They’re all following the same propaganda rule book.
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sagehen Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:20:02pm |
re: #52 Killgore Trout
Free Ipad for everybody!
I’ve been enjoying Iranian state media coverage of OWS lately.
‘OWS to become major challenge for US’They had a report earlier that the government was using snipers to shoot OWS protesters.
“Due to extreme cold, some of them nearly froze to death…but their [high] motivation and steadfastness proves that their movement will continue,” she added.
umm… yeah there was that snow around Halloween, it was around 30 for 2 days, but it’s been in the 50’s and 60’s for all of November.
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funky chicken Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:26:26pm |
re: #29 publicityStunted
You’re participating in detailed discussions about the GOP presidential race. How can anything else shock you at this point? :/
OK, good point. None of these crazy people is any more repulsive than Newt Gingrich, I suppose.
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Skeetghazi Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:26:50pm |
Ah, full circle in search of the goal. Perusing Iranian state TV. Reported here at LGF, quite proudly.
Back to the thread at hand.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:31:58pm |
re: #66 Stanley Sea
Ah, full circle in search of the goal. Perusing Iranian state TV. Reported here at LGF, quite proudly.
Back to the thread at hand.
something wrong with that?
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makeitstop Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:33:21pm |
Ah. Show’s over, back to hippie-punching default.
I’m gonna go re-wire a guitar. Might be back for the quote-unquote debate tonight.
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Ghost of a Dopefish Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:39:30pm |
re: #69 makeitstop
Ah. Show’s over, back to hippie-punching default.
I’m gonna go re-wire a guitar. Might be back for the quote-unquote debate tonight.
The debate is tonight? Oh boy. I think I’ll, uh, shovel the driveway. Multiple times. Yeah, that’s the ticket.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:42:15pm |
re: #63 Charles
Standard practice for totalitarian regimes. The Soviet Union made a big show of “supporting” the Vietnam War protesters too. They’re all following the same propaganda rule book.
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Moodsman Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:44:38pm |
re: #71 thedopefishlives
The debate is tonight? Oh boy. I think I’ll, uh, shovel the driveway. Multiple times. Yeah, that’s the ticket.
It’s raining and cold and foggy here today… perfect weather to watch the GOP debate candidates: all wet, cold and not being able to see very far.
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austin_blue Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:46:15pm |
Dammit! That man was pure entertainment gold.
Texas is playing Baylor today. Right about now, actually, on ABC as soon the debacle in Houston is over (Southern Miss is beating the fuck out of UH).
Hope the Horns don’t embarrass us. Baylor’s QB is unbelievable and ought to win the Heisman. Oops. Two plays, 59 yards TD pass for Baylor.
Could be a long day for UT.
| 75 |
Racer X Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:46:43pm |
re: #44 Racer X
I’m with OWS crowd - we need a revolution and overthrow the government. Replace it with a true democracy where we all vote to give ourselves cool shit.
Heh.
Touched a nerve did I?
If you think the OWS losers aren’t giddy at the thought of taking ALL of the wealth from every rich person in America, go to their web site and check out what their goals are and who they admire.
It appears to me they would love to overthrow the current government and replace it with something more conducive to the “S” word.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:47:06pm |
re: #63 Charles
Standard practice for totalitarian regimes. The Soviet Union made a big show of “supporting” the Vietnam War protesters too. They’re all following the same propaganda rule book.
Goes way back, actually.
“And you are lynching Negroes”
Argument against hypocrisy. Usually hypocritical itself. Doesn’t change anything about whether it is valid or not, though.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:48:12pm |
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andres Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:48:38pm |
re: #55 albusteve
we are so fortunate that BO has given us the gift of hope and change…he’s united this great country and now we all eat weeds
I’m still looking at my comment, but how did I go from “complaining about Cain’s departure and the current Republican candidates” to “I heart Barack Obama so much”?
| 79 |
andres Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:50:04pm |
re: #75 Racer X
Heh.
Touched a nerve did I?If you think the OWS losers aren’t giddy at the thought of taking ALL of the wealth from every rich person in America, go to their web site and check out what their goals are and who they admire.
It appears to me they would love to overthrow the current government and replace it with something more conducive to the “S” word.
No, I’m downding you because you’re idiotic comment.
And it’s socialism. No “S-word” privileges exists for that word, so do use it.
| 80 |
(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:50:38pm |
Hey Sergey, what do you think about the totalitarianism doctrine?
| 81 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:51:41pm |
re: #63 Charles
Standard practice for totalitarian regimes. The Soviet Union made a big show of “supporting” the Vietnam War protesters too. They’re all following the same propaganda rule book.
Russia Today was a favorite of the Tea Party.
| 82 |
(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:51:54pm |
re: #75 Racer X
What’s with the Sean Hannity/Rush Limbaugh/Mark Levin/Michael Savage talking points?
| 83 |
andres Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:53:17pm |
re: #57 Racer X
LMAO!
See! See! We aren’t near as bad as those fascist Americans!
Yes, because no one is suggesting to massacre peaceful protests.
| 84 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:53:35pm |
| 85 |
(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:54:21pm |
re: #81 Killgore Trout
Russia Today was a favorite of the Tea Party.
It’s kind of par for the course that there is some kind of sympathy between internal dissenters and foreign media. Same is true in Egypt, for instance. The degree of inclusive nuttiness seems more dependent on the degree of competition/hostility between host nations rather than the existence of totalitarianism, though.
| 86 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:54:49pm |
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Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:54:54pm |
Just added some code to allow embedding videos from Funnyordie.com - same way you post YouTube vids, just paste in the page’s URL.
Testing:
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:55:37pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:55:45pm |
re: #75 Racer X
Heh.
Touched a nerve did I?If you think the OWS losers aren’t giddy at the thought of taking ALL of the wealth from every rich person in America, go to their web site and check out what their goals are and who they admire.
It appears to me they would love to overthrow the current government and replace it with something more conducive to the “S” word.
Ah, you must have been a Cain supporter
my condolences
| 90 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:55:57pm |
re: #78 andres
I’m still looking at my comment, but how did I go from “complaining about Cain’s departure and the current Republican candidates” to “I heart Barack Obama so much”?
that’s a real headscratcher
| 91 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:56:28pm |
Iranian Hard-Liner Raps In Support Of Occupy Wall Street
A member of Iran’s pro-government Basij force has composed and produced a rap in support of the Occupy Wall Street movement.
Occupy Wall Street is a real war street
What Happened to the American Dream?
Don’t watch and have ice cream
Capitalism failed everyone
Killed the people one by one
| 92 |
(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:56:36pm |
| 93 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:56:45pm |
re: #88 wrenchwench
I understood more of the lyrics in the previous one.
“Freedom to Angela Davis” is the leitmotif ;)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:57:39pm |
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:58:32pm |
Am I supposed to care what Iranian propaganda says about the US?
Because I don’t.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:59:33pm |
re: #95 Varek Raith
Am I supposed to care what Iranian propaganda says about the US?
Because I don’t.
We’re all Iranian propagandists now :D
booga booga hippies
| 97 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:59:39pm |
re: #95 Varek Raith
Am I supposed to care what Iranian propaganda says about the US?
Because I don’t.
not as fun as plastic army guys?
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:00:22pm |
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Alexzander Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:00:41pm |
re: #95 Varek Raith
Am I supposed to care what Iranian propaganda says about the US?
Because I don’t.
Personally I am fascinated by differing world-views and the way in which we manifest them.
| 100 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:01:04pm |
| 101 |
(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:01:09pm |
re: #94 Sergey Romanov
What do you mean by t. d.?
Descriptive and prescriptive sum of the political theory/theories expounding the meaning of totalitarianism.
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engineer cat Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:02:06pm |
In the end, it wasn’t his stunning bigotry, total ignorance of foreign affairs, or laughable economic ideas that brought down Herman Cain. It was a consensual affair between two adults
well thank god at least he didn’t do something stupid like advocate a compassionate and intelligent policy
| 103 |
Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:02:30pm |
re: #100 albusteve
say hi to gus for me
Wish I could.
I don’t have anyway to contact anyone on LGF outside of it.
Complicates things less.
;)
| 104 |
Alexzander Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:02:51pm |
| 105 |
engineer cat Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:04:00pm |
Occupy Wall Street is a real war street
What Happened to the American Dream?
Don’t watch and have ice cream
Capitalism failed everyone
Killed the people one by one
i like it
reminds me of frank zappa back in the old days
brown shoes
don’t make it
quite school
why fake it?
| 106 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:04:19pm |
| 107 |
Alexzander Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:04:44pm |
re: #101 000G
Descriptive and prescriptive sum of the political theory/theories expounding the meaning of totalitarianism.
Your asking if Sergey agrees with ALL of the theories on the nature of totalitarianism? I must be missing something; I’ve been awake all night.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:07:31pm |
re: #107 Alexzander
I am open to nuanced replies. It was an intentionally very open-ended question.
I am interested in his perspective, esp. with his research in NS and Soviet history.
| 109 |
engineer cat Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:10:21pm |
re: #75 Racer X
If you think the OWS losers aren’t giddy at the thought of taking ALL of the wealth from every rich person in America
i think i’ll go put up an Official Racer X Website - i could do it in five minutes flat through google blogger - and then tell everybody to go there to find out what Racer X really believes
by the way, Racer X - why do you hate America?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:11:19pm |
re: #101 000G
Descriptive and prescriptive sum of the political theory/theories expounding the meaning of totalitarianism.
It’s hard for me to answer such a general question. I haven’t read any systematic studies on specifically t.
| 111 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:11:47pm |
| 112 |
(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:12:53pm |
re: #110 Sergey Romanov
It’s hard for me to answer such a general question. I haven’t read any systematic studies on specifically t.
Do you affirm the concept in general, though? Do you use it, if only loosely? Do you think it’s meaningful at least in some sense?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:13:56pm |
re: #112 000G
Do you affirm the concept in general, though? Do you use it, if only loosely? Do you think it’s meaningful at least in some sense?
Sure, it’s not even a question for me.
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Alexzander Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:14:26pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:18:30pm |
re: #76 000G
Goes way back, actually.
“And you are lynching Negroes”
Argument against hypocrisy. Usually hypocritical itself. Doesn’t change anything about whether it is valid or not, though.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:18:33pm |
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Alexzander Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:19:24pm |
re: #112 000G
Do you affirm the concept in general, though? Do you use it, if only loosely? Do you think it’s meaningful at least in some sense?
Is there an implication of using the concept of totalitarianism that is bothering you, or are you working on an essay or something similar?
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engineer cat Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:19:34pm |
Gingrich says front-runner status is ‘disorienting’
kind of admitting he really just wanted to sell books and $60k speeches
“This is such a rapid change that we’re having to rethink our own internal operation right now and where we are,” he told more than two-dozen journalists following his speech.
yeah. uh, just who are you anyway, newt?
The former speaker dedicated a larger portion of his speech Thursday to attacks on President Barack Obama, calling him a “Saul Alinsky radical.”
“He believes in a world in which the classic America has disappeared. He believes in a world where the United Nations is more important than the United States Congress. He believes in a world of internationally law rather than of the U.S. Constitution,” Gingrich noted.
he left out that obama believes in a world where puppies are ripped out of the hands of 7 year olds and drowned. gingrich failed to “note” that
But the spotlight was also on Gingrich’s position on a controversial issue – child labor laws. During an earlier stop Thursday, he suggested children in poor neighborhoods should start working. Pressed following the dinner, Gingrich didn’t say what age he thought might be appropriate to get a job.
“I think the country has to decide. Different states may do it differently, different cities might do it differently,” Gingrich said. “I am trying to create a mindset that says the best way to get poor children to have a chance to rise is in fact to help them early on, learn the work ethic.”
i might “note” that gingrich believes in a world where americans spend their childhood scrubbing toilets instead of playing softball, but i’ll just let him do it himself
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:26:00pm |
re: #118 engineer dog
Gingrich says front-runner status is ‘disorienting’
kind of admitting he really just wanted to sell books and $60k speeches
“This is such a rapid change that we’re having to rethink our own internal operation right now and where we are,” he told more than two-dozen journalists following his speech.
yeah. uh, just who are you anyway, newt?
The former speaker dedicated a larger portion of his speech Thursday to attacks on President Barack Obama, calling him a “Saul Alinsky radical.”
“He believes in a world in which the classic America has disappeared. He believes in a world where the United Nations is more important than the United States Congress. He believes in a world of internationally law rather than of the U.S. Constitution,” Gingrich noted.
he left out that obama believes in a world where puppies are ripped out of the hands of 7 year olds and drowned. gingrich failed to “note” that
But the spotlight was also on Gingrich’s position on a controversial issue – child labor laws. During an earlier stop Thursday, he suggested children in poor neighborhoods should start working. Pressed following the dinner, Gingrich didn’t say what age he thought might be appropriate to get a job.
“I think the country has to decide. Different states may do it differently, different cities might do it differently,” Gingrich said. “I am trying to create a mindset that says the best way to get poor children to have a chance to rise is in fact to help them early on, learn the work ethic.”
i might “note” that gingrich believes in a world where americans spend their childhood scrubbing toilets instead of playing softball, but i’ll just let him do it himself
Newt believes in a world where the president can totally ignore USSC if he doesn’t like their rulings.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:26:38pm |
re: #117 Alexzander
Is there an implication of using the concept of totalitarianism that is bothering you, or are you working on an essay or something similar?
There are aspects like particularity of regime ideology, place in left/right-spectrum, motivation and mobilization of masses, etc. that tend to get glossed over in totalitarianism theory.
It’s an old problem in historiography, especially when you come across stuff like NS Germany or the Holocaust and their respective idiosyncrasies, see the Historikerstreit.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:31:03pm |
re: #120 000G
Without going into discussion of fancy politological concepts, my attitude to Hitler v. Stalin is: they were equal when it came to evil, Hitler was the leader when it came to harm. I can’t be bothered to elaborate much beyond that at the moment. And yes, there are many “buts”, with perspective possibly depending on what ethnic or religious group one was in, etc.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:31:33pm |
Totalitarianism theory also has consequences for research into and policies towards/against extremism.
Compare victims of Red Army Faction to victims of National Socialist Underground
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:32:14pm |
re: #122 000G
(I wouldn’t cry for Schleyer.)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:33:27pm |
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:35:11pm |
re: #123 Sergey Romanov
Reported incidents of right-wing normality in Germany in November (notice the violent incidents among them)
There isn’t anything equivalent on the Left (except for violence against things, like paint-bombed banking buildings and burned out luxury cars – but usually no violence against living beings).
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:36:45pm |
re: #93 Sergey Romanov
“Freedom to Angela Davis” is the leitmotif ;)
>>>
Thousands of Soviet citizens signed letters demanding the release of Angela Davis, and in Russian the phrase “Freedom to Angela Davis!” (Russian: ”Свободу Анджеле Дэвис !”) became a synonym for fighting against certain problems abroad, refusing to see problems in one’s own country. Also an Afro haircut sometimes in Russian is called “Angela Davis”. In 2003 the Russian rock band “Neprikasaemye” (The Untouchables) featuring Bulgaro-Russian pop singer Filipp Kirkorov recorded a song called “Freedom to Angela Davis!” (Свободу Анджеле Дэвис !), referring both to an “Angela Davis” haircut and her imprisonment, with the widely quoted refrain “Дайте ей свободу, суки !” (Free her, bastards ! (literally -Give her freedom, bitches)).
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:37:14pm |
re: #125 Sergey Romanov
Are you a werewolf in Skyrim?
Yes. It’s rather fun.
Oh, and you may find my new avatar amusing.
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Meitantei Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:38:40pm |
re: #121 Sergey Romanov
If I had to describe the difference between the two, I like Kissinger’s perspective on them.
Hitler, at the end of the day, was about himself. National Socialism wasn’t some radical or new ideology, it was just standard extreme right-wing thinking of the day dressed up in a fancy package revolving around some Austrian corporal. The movement would have collapsed the minute Hitler died, if not sooner.
Stalin was in it for himself, but he also viewed himself as a servant to the Communist cause and historical truth - despite what Trotsky claims, he was a sincere Communist, which means that your 20 year old kid ranting about how Stalinism wasn’t “true communism” is a fool. This meant that as he represented a movement that was arguably the most influential ideal since the Founding Fathers, he had the patience and guile which Hitler never bothered with. He ultimately lost in a sense because it was sort of an “evil cannot comprehend good” moment - he literally couldn’t comprehend why America would care about democracy in Czechoslovkia or Poland, and so did a lot of things that made us very mad.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:38:55pm |
re: #128 Varek Raith
Yes. It’s rather fun.
Oh, and you may find my new avatar amusing.
Beyond the sweet absurdity I don’t get the joke :P
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:40:13pm |
re: #130 Sergey Romanov
Beyond the sweet absurdity I don’t get the joke :P
Ah.
Random soldiers all over Skyrim will sometimes say, “I was an adventurer like you once, then I took an arrow to the knee…”
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:40:43pm |
re: #131 Varek Raith
Ah.
Random soldiers all over Skyrim will sometimes say, “I was an adventurer like you once, then I took an arrow to the knee…”
AAAH!
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Targetpractice Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:41:03pm |
re: #131 Varek Raith
Ah.
Random soldiers all over Skyrim will sometimes say, “I was an adventurer like you once, then I took an arrow to the knee…”
And keep accusing me of having a sweetroll taken!
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:41:25pm |
re: #123 Sergey Romanov
(I wouldn’t cry for Schleyer.)
A perpetrator of a race war executed by perpetrators of a class war.
But whom did the NSU execute? Just being a “foreigner” qualified you.
There is a lack of symmetry there.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:41:37pm |
re: #131 Varek Raith
Those putzes deserved it too. They say I smell! //
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:42:59pm |
OT but ordering books off of Amazon is just awesome. Just got 8 books for me and my two brothers about various subjects.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:43:11pm |
Thomas Lite just downdinged this statement:
Fuck any torturers, torture authorizers and torture apologists.
LOL.
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:43:35pm |
“Think it’ll rain?”
-Morrowind guard
Gee, I dunno, did you see the freaking HURRICANE outside?!?!
;)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:44:53pm |
re: #138 Varek Raith
“Think it’ll rain?”
-Morrowind guardGee, I dunno, did you see the freaking HURRICANE outside?!?!
;)
Is there a list of all the absurd absurdities of Skyrim? I don’t mean flying mammoth, but more like putting buckets over people’s heads or dragging private items away from them without them raising alarm, etc.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:44:58pm |
re: #137 Sergey Romanov
Thomas Lite just downdinged this statement:
LOL.
Tom’s brother Bud would have updinged it
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:46:03pm |
re: #140 albusteve
Tom’s brother Bud would have updinged it
He usually has bad taste, but here he would be right!
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:51:22pm |
re: #139 Sergey Romanov
Is there a list of all the absurd absurdities of Skyrim? I don’t mean flying mammoth, but more like butting buckets over people’s heads or dragging private items away from them without them raising alarm, etc.
I’m not sure.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:52:50pm |
I just realized that next year is the Bonus Pack Year.
.27% more year for the same price! Wahoo! It’s a bargain!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:53:15pm |
re: #127 Sergey Romanov
Angela Davis – American icon for the USSR
Apologies for RussiaToday, but this particular piece is informative.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:55:15pm |
Our pseudo-elections (for Duma) have started.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:56:15pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:57:55pm |
re: #146 000G
So who are you voting for?
I’m not voting, but not for reasons of principle. Let’s just say I don’t live where I’m officially registered and it would be too much bother for such a non-election.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 1:59:33pm |
In the last couple of elections I voted Pirate Party.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:00:20pm |
re: #148 000G
Good choice too.
(If I voted, I would’ve voted for Yabloko. Lesser evil, though.)
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:02:59pm |
re: #149 Sergey Romanov
They (German Pirates) have been proven to be embarassingly amateurish (and often out-manouvered by the Greens or Left even on their core issues) but I can’t think of a better choice to rattle the cage. Voting for a party and their candidates can be ultimatively successful even if only the issues get pressed to the forefront as a consequence.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:09:12pm |
re: #150 000G
Just one particular small “sector” of the pre-election injustices, related to the “Golos” monitoring organization:
[Link: www.google.com…]
The ruling power gets more brazen each time.
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funky chicken Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:09:36pm |
re: #71 thedopefishlives
The debate is tonight? Oh boy. I think I’ll, uh, shovel the driveway. Multiple times. Yeah, that’s the ticket.
How about that colonoscopy you’ve been putting off? LOL
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Interesting Times Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:11:45pm |
re: #152 funky chicken
How about that colonoscopy you’ve been putting off? LOL
Colonoscopy vs. GOP debate? One involves cameras filming an endless source of shit. The other is a medical procedure.
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funky chicken Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:12:45pm |
re: #147 Sergey Romanov
I’m not voting, but not for reasons of principle. Let’s just say I don’t live where I’m officially registered and it would be too much bother for such a non-election.
Hey, that’s how I feel about the upcomming elections here in the US too! I’d have to either register in my current state, which is gonna vote GOP even if they nominate Gingrich, or file for an absentee ballot from the place we lived in 2008, which would be a hassle and maybe illegal, since it’s not my permanent address. So, why bother?
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Targetpractice Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:13:07pm |
Yet another debate? Alright, I confess, I know where Jimmy Hoffa is buried! I’ll take you to him, just don’t make me watch another debate!!!
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chubby vegan Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:13:21pm |
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chubby vegan Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:14:05pm |
re: #153 publicityStunted
Colonoscopy vs. GOP debate? One involves cameras filming an endless source of shit. The other is a medical procedure.
This is why I come to LGF. Nice.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:14:32pm |
re: #154 funky chicken
If I lived in the US, then maybe (not sure, but maybe) I would have voted even then, out of principle. Because I would still know I was taking a part in an election and not in a pitiful circus.
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funky chicken Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:15:56pm |
re: #119 HappyWarrior
Jesus. Still with the Saul Alinsky thing? If Obama’s proven anything over the past 3 years, it’s got to be that he’s not any kind of radical. Or, as I’ve told my TP influenced dad, if he’s a radical, he’s the least effective one ever.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:16:22pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:19:08pm |
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:19:34pm |
re: #160 funky chicken
Jesus. Still with the Saul Alinsky thing? If Obama’s proven anything over the past 3 years, it’s got to be that he’s not any kind of radical. Or, as I’ve told my TP influenced dad, if he’s a radical, he’s the least effective one ever.
Yeah I know right? Newt’s just telling audiences what they want to hear and believe about President Obama. He’s stupid but not that stupid.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:21:04pm |
re: #162 Sergey Romanov
When I was more of an ideologue, I would write poems on my ballot.
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recusancy Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:21:47pm |
re: #158 Sergey Romanov
If I lived in the US, then maybe (not sure, but maybe) I would have voted even then, out of principle. Because I would still know I was taking a part in an election and not in a pitiful circus.
Too many here take it for granted.
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Buck Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:22:10pm |
#0 Charles
It was a consensual affair between two adults.
Alleged, still only alleged.
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engineer cat Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:23:17pm |
re: #166 Buck
#0 Charles
Alleged, still only alleged.
who’s your favorite for the GOP nomination, buck?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:23:52pm |
re: #166 Buck
#0 Charles
Alleged, still only alleged.
Good point.
Bright side… not relevant anymore. For him and his family to work out.
I’m just gonna forget he exists.
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anonymous gun expert Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:25:37pm |
re: #3 Racer X
I’m still gonna vote for him. I’ll write his name on the ballot. He is the right guy to
runruin the country.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:26:26pm |
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prairiefire Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:26:38pm |
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engineer cat Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:26:57pm |
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prairiefire Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:27:16pm |
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Buck Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:27:47pm |
re: #173 engineer dog
cool
in some quarters that would get you called a “liberal”, you know
For sure. I do know that. I am simply misunderstood.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:28:33pm |
Good time to relink this TPM article:
Conservatives Starting To Catch On That Jon Huntsman Is A Conservative
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:28:46pm |
re: #175 Buck
For sure. I do know that. I am simply misunderstood.
It’s because your Canadian.
We don’t get Canadians.
;)
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:30:43pm |
And another, older one:
“Centrist” Jon Huntsman Isn’t Really All That Moderate After All
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bratwurst Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:32:35pm |
re: #178 000G
And another, older one:
“Centrist” Jon Huntsman Isn’t Really All That Moderate After All
He is merely the best of a VERY bad lot.
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funky chicken Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:35:45pm |
re: #176 000G
Good time to relink this TPM article:
Conservatives Starting To Catch On That Jon Huntsman Is A Conservative
still a mormon tho…
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:36:37pm |
A semi-satirical illustrated guide to Russian political parties, as presented through their perceived electorate (by Vasya Lozhkin):
1. United Russia, the ruling party: Image: 0_58ed7_61c7379c_orig.jpg
2. Communists: Image: 0_58ed8_f2e129f3_orig.jpg
3. The Other Russia (Kasparov/Limonov/Kasyanov): Image: 0_58ed6_790ca6c1_orig.jpg
4. LDPR (Zhirinovsky): Image: 0_58ed9_4a581204_orig.jpg
5. Patriots of Russia: Image: 0_58edb_ffe52c39_orig.jpg
6. Parnas (an conglomerate of democratic mini-parties): Image: 0_58eda_237ce923_orig.jpg
7. The Right Cause (a “liberal” “pro-business” party, now basically dead): Image: 0_58edc_a537c41e_orig.jpg
8. The Just Russia (socialist/social-democratic party): Image: 0_58edd_21d247ac_orig.jpg
9. Yabloko (left liberals): Image: 0_58ede_2076e735_orig.jpg
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anonymous gun expert Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:37:33pm |
I’m willing to bet that Jon Stewart is drinking heavily today.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:42:30pm |
re: #183 Buck
Funny how that comment is not thought of as bigoted…
Well, personally, I took it as meant to point out the bigotry of others, not as funky chicken having a problem with Huntsman’s religion.
Could clarify, though, if he wishes to.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:42:44pm |
re: #183 Buck
Funny how that comment is not thought of as bigoted…
Can you explain how a comment that points out (rightly or wrongly) how the right-wing base likely perceives Huntsman is bigoted?
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:45:37pm |
re: #185 Sergey Romanov
Can you explain how a comment that points out (rightly or wrongly) how the right-wing base likely perceives Huntsman is bigoted?
Buck can be incredibly obtuse when it suits his purposes.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:46:36pm |
re: #187 goddamnedfrank
Buck can be incredibly obtuse when it suits his purposes.
Nononono
I get it now.
It was bigoted towards the right-wing base.
//
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:47:21pm |
re: #186 Firstinla
Newt is a Catholic. Bigoted?
That depends entirely on whether his Catholicism would prompt you not to vote for him.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:47:49pm |
re: #177 Varek Raith
It’s because your Canadian.
We don’t get Canadians.
;)
It’s because of the vaccines. The Aussies aren’t so lucky.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:50:16pm |
re: #183 Buck
Funny how that comment is not thought of as bigoted…
That’s because it’s not the attitude of the commenter. Read for comprehension please.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:53:46pm |
Meanwhile, the South Ossetian election spectacle continues. The masks are really off: now the opposition drops pretense and gives the ultimatum … to Moscow. Note that formally South Ossetia thinks of itself as an indepedent state (though 90% of its citizens are also Russian citizens, which includes the current president as well as both candidates; funny, that). They demand Moscow to approve the president-elect Dzhioyeva, or else they promise a general strike.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:55:35pm |
re: #192 Sergey Romanov
Meanwhile, the South Ossetian election spectacle continues. The masks are really off: now the opposition drops pretense and gives the ultimatum … to Moscow. Note that formally South Ossetia thinks of itself as an indepedent state (though 90% of its citizens are also Russian citizens, which includes the current president as well as both candidates; funny, that). They demand Moscow to approve the president-elect Dzhioyeva, or else they promise a general strike.
Is there a Colonel of truth to the threat of a General strike?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:56:34pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:57:31pm |
re: #193 b_sharp
Is there a Colonel of truth to the threat of a General strike?
Yes, Colonel Anatoly Barankevich is one of those threatening the strike.
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Buck Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:59:09pm |
re: #185 Sergey Romanov
Can you explain how a comment that points out (rightly or wrongly) how the right-wing base will likely think about Huntsman is bigoted?
You like to add your perception of what the writer MEANT to say into a comment.
Well, you don’t have to with mine. I think it is interesting (funny) that the comment isn’t thought of as bigoted.
still a mormon tho…
Seems to me to be plainly referring to a persons religion as a negative. You want to add a paragraph to explain what you think it means….go ahead. It actually just adds to the funny for me.
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 2:59:21pm |
re: #192 Sergey Romanov
Meanwhile, the South Ossetian election spectacle continues. The masks are really off: now the opposition drops pretense and gives the ultimatum … to Moscow. Note that formally South Ossetia thinks of itself as an indepedent state (though 90% of its citizens are also Russian citizens, which includes the current president as well as both candidates; funny, that). They demand Moscow to approve the president-elect Dzhioyeva, or else they promise a general strike.
Whose the ‘good guy’ in this fight?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:00:26pm |
re: #196 Buck
The thing, Buck, is that it is you who added your perception, not I. Unlike you, I’m not tone-deaf and I see the context of that phrase. You’re just being dumb, as usual.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:00:34pm |
Georgia (USA, Serge, sorry) 10. LSU 3.
I did not see that coming.
LSU has 12 yards of offense in the first half.
12.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:00:39pm |
re: #196 Buck
You like to add your perception of what the writer MEANT to say into a comment.
Well, you don’t have to with mine. I think it is interesting (funny) that the comment isn’t thought of as bigoted.
Seems to me to be plainly referring to a persons religion as a negative. You want to add a paragraph to explain what you think it means…go ahead. It actually just adds to the funny for me.
You literalists kill me.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:01:25pm |
re: #197 Varek Raith
Whose the ‘good guy’ in this fight?
I’m for Dzhioyeva because her clear victory was so brazenly stolen. That said, SO is an illegitimate entity anyway.
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:01:47pm |
re: #196 Buck
Most of the Religious Right in this country think that Mormons are a non Christian cult.
Fact.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:02:45pm |
re: #198 Sergey Romanov
The thing, Buck, is that it is you who added your perception, not I. Unlike you, I’m not tone-deaf and I see the context of that phrase. You’re just being dumb, as usual.
I updinged you twice for that but only one registered. The dinger has the same problem as Buck, refusal to accept more than one point.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:02:57pm |
re: #4 albusteve
and Herman said, doc it’s only a scratch
“It’s only a flesh wound! I’ve had worse! Come back here, you coward! I’ll bite your kneecaps off!!”
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:03:14pm |
re: #6 Charles
I’m already nostalgic. I’ll always remember where I was when I first saw Mark Block taking a ragged hit off a cigarette in a Herman Cain political ad.
I was sitting at my desk in the living room.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:06:44pm |
re: #197 Varek Raith
Also, Dzhioyeva’s opponent Bibilov is Kremlin’s preferred candidate, so Dzhioyeva’s victory (tho she is, of course, also pro-Russian) is a good way to rattle the cage.
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Skeetghazi Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:08:42pm |
re: #199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Georgia (USA, Serge, sorry) 10. LSU 3.
I did not see that coming.
LSU has 12 yards of offense in the first half.
12.
Kinda sucks for LSU. Just hope no injuries.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:10:12pm |
re: #202 Varek Raith
Most of the Religious Right in this country think that Mormons are a non Christian cult.
Fact.
That is a fact.
However, as a Christian, I’d like to offer that I’d vote for someone who believed in the “Flying Spaghetti Monster” if I thought he could help us.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:10:26pm |
Hey all!
Spent part of the afternoon at car dealers. Why, I don’t know. Hubby wants to look into getting a 3rd car.
Why does car buying have to be so difficult.
I’d rather buy shoes. They are cheaper and the sales people are much easier to deal with.
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:10:26pm |
re: #206 Sergey Romanov
Also, Dzhioyeva’s opponent Bibilov is Kremlin’s preferred candidate, so Dzhioyeva’s victory (tho she is, of course, also pro-Prussian) is a good way to rattle the cage.
Ah, I think I have a basic understanding of the situation.
Thanks.
:)
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:11:25pm |
re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That is a fact.
However, as a Christian, I’d like to offer that I’d vote for someone who believed in the “Flying Spaghetti Monster” if I thought he could help us.
Oh, I’m not lumping you, or anyone else on LGF, with the RR.
:)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:12:13pm |
re: #211 Varek Raith
No worries. I wasn’t being defensive, just demonstrative.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:12:19pm |
re: #210 Varek Raith
There is also a “social” aspect that I like - she’s a female that won a presidential election in a Caucasian state (OK, pseudo-state) fair and square. I like that.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:12:24pm |
re: #209 ggt
Hey all!
Spent part of the afternoon at car dealers. Why, I don’t know. Hubby wants to look into getting a 3rd car.
Why does car buying have to be so difficult.
I’d rather buy shoes. They are cheaper and the sales people are much easier to deal with.
Well, take a spray bottle of ‘new car smell’ with you and spray it into the shoes when hubby goes with you shoe shopping.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:12:59pm |
re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That is a fact.
However, as a Christian, I’d like to offer that I’d vote for someone who believed in the “Flying Spaghetti Monster” if I thought he could help us.
I’d feel weird having a leader that could defy gravity.
Now, if they were baptized in the RC church … .
/
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:13:36pm |
re: #214 b_sharp
Well, take a spray bottle of ‘new car smell’ with you and spray it into the shoes when hubby goes with you shoe shopping.
But, I hate that smell.
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:13:47pm |
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:14:17pm |
re: #212 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
No worries. I wasn’t being defensive, just demonstrative.
Sometimes I can be tone deaf when it comes to discussing religion.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:15:47pm |
re: #46 jaunte
Doesn’t everyone check on their secret female friends and proteges at four in the morning?
Well, according to Caos in California, only the true Christians among us.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:16:24pm |
re: #55 albusteve
we are so fortunate that BO has given us the gift of hope and change…he’s united this great country and now we all eat weeds
Arugula. It’s called arugula.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:16:27pm |
re: #218 Varek Raith
Sometimes I can be tone deaf when it comes to discussing religion.
We invest far too much of our identities in religion and politics. Oh, and sports.
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Skeetghazi Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:17:19pm |
re: #220 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, according to Caos in California, only the true Christians among us.
Caos. What a weird day following her path on the google.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:17:30pm |
What I hate is when you walk in and say: “Show me the cheapest thing you have on the lot.”
and they respond: “Did you want 4WD?” or
“We’ll have to run your credit.”
I want to just slap them. If they would simply comply, instead of play games, they would have sold a car today.
And the running back and forth to the F&I Manager’s office with little pieces of paper is childish.
I want to send all the managers of the dealers an email that says: “Hi, I’m looking for an the lowest price new-car I can get for an additional family vehicle. I don’t plan on keeping it for more than 4 years. I want a holder for my coffee cup, air conditioning and rear-window defrost. If you are interested in selling me a car, please email with an offer.”
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:17:52pm |
re: #61 albusteve
gosh, maybe he’s right…
bwahahaha!
A consensual affair won’t make me think well of a man, under most circumstances, but it won’t make or break whether I vote for him.
In Cain’s case, he was someone I would never vote for, and then the sexual harassment stuff, which is a deal-breaker, came out.
The affair, is actually not my business.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:18:01pm |
re: #221 SanFranciscoZionist
Arugula. It’s called arugula.
It’s so bitter my dogs won’t even eat it.
Humans in the household like it, tho.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:19:11pm |
re: #225 ggt
What I hate is when you walk in and say: “Show me the cheapest thing you have on the lot.”
and they respond: “Did you want 4WD?” or
“We’ll have to run your credit.”I want to just slap them. If they would simply comply, instead of play games, they would have sold a car today.
And the running back and forth to the F&I Manager’s office with little pieces of paper is childish.
I want to send all the managers of the dealers an email that says: “Hi, I’m looking for an the lowest new-car I can get for an additional family vehicle. I don’t plan on keeping it for more than 4 years. I want a holder for my coffee cup, air conditioning and rear-window defrost. If you are interested in selling me a car, please email with an offer.”
They still do that pretending to run to their manager bit? The last time that happened to me, I walked out.
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jvic Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:19:16pm |
1. re: #129 Meitantei
Hitler, at the end of the day, was about himself. National Socialism wasn’t some radical or new ideology, it was just standard extreme right-wing thinking of the day dressed up in a fancy package revolving around some Austrian corporal…
Stalin was in it for himself, but he also viewed himself as a servant to the Communist cause and historical truth - despite what Trotsky claims, he was a sincere Communist…
Well said (including material I snipped) but…
Thank whatever gods may be, we did not see the full implementation of Nazi racialism that would have happened had they prevailed in Europe.
Thank whatever gods may be, we did not see the full worldwide implementation of Nazi racialism that would have happened had they won WW2 and gone on to build the Bomb and pursue biotechnology.
2. Time to go. Later.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:19:24pm |
re: #75 Racer X
Heh.
Touched a nerve did I?If you think the OWS losers aren’t giddy at the thought of taking ALL of the wealth from every rich person in America, go to their web site and check out what their goals are and who they admire.
It appears to me they would love to overthrow the current government and replace it with something more conducive to the “S” word.
Snowboarding?
Slartibartfast?
Samsonite?
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:19:56pm |
re: #228 b_sharp
They still do that pretending to run to their manager bit? The last time that happened to me, I walked out.
When the guy stood up for the 2nd time, I got up and went to the car. Hubby came out a minute or two later. He loves playing these games.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:20:02pm |
re: #226 SanFranciscoZionist
> but it won’t make or break whether I vote for him.
It’s not simply a personal matter or flaw. Going for the election with such skeletons in the closet is an enormous flaw in judgment (cf. John Edwards) which might be a deal-breaker for me, depending on specific circumstances.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:20:28pm |
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:20:48pm |
re: #226 SanFranciscoZionist
A consensual affair won’t make me think well of a man, under most circumstances, but it won’t make or break whether I vote for him.
In Cain’s case, he was someone I would never vote for, and then the sexual harassment stuff, which is a deal-breaker, came out.
The affair, is actually not my business.
A consensual affair is meh. Harassment is a completely different situation that says an enormous amount about his attitude toward women.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:21:01pm |
re: #83 andres
Yes, because no one is suggesting to massacre peaceful protests.
The thing is, the OWSers, no matter how fervent, can’t overthrow the government and install Marxism, and Ann, no matter how repellent, actually can’t order the National Guard to shoot…which is good news for America.
So let’s take deep breaths.
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funky chicken Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:22:41pm |
re: #184 EmmmieG
Well, personally, I took it as meant to point out the bigotry of others, not as funky chicken having a problem with Huntsman’s religion.
Could clarify, though, if he wishes to.
I’m a she, and I don’t care if Huntsman is a Mormon. The “anybody but Romney because he’s a Mormon” cadre of the GOP obviously doesn’t agree with me.
Ask Michael Huckabee if he would support a Mormon for president.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:23:03pm |
re: #234 b_sharp
A consensual affair is meh. Harassment is a completely different situation that says an enormous amount about his attitude toward women.
A consensual affair while your wife has cancer?
A 13 year affair that your wife obviously chose to ignore?
A consensual affair with the wife of a man who was serving his country overseas? (I don’t know anyone in this position, I just thought of it as a condition that would make it “worse.”)
There are definitely factors that might make me pay attention.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:23:16pm |
One dealer was advertizing the 0% financing in the paper today. The F&I guy said that he would have to run our credit to tell us what interest rates they had to offer. WTF? Do these guys realize the internet is out there—people are not as stupid about this stuff as they used to be & I worked in auto finance for a couple of years —discounting loans and leases. I have a clue.
On to the next dealer … .
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:23:23pm |
re: #231 ggt
When the guy stood up for the 2nd time, I got up and went to the car. Hubby came out a minute or two later. He loves playing these games.
Since you didn’t ask for advice, and I’m a dude… here’s some advice.
Y’all decide what you want. Then let him go without you.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:24:04pm |
re: #236 funky chicken
I’m a she, and I don’t care if Huntsman is a Mormon. The “anybody but Romney because he’s a Mormon” cadre of the GOP obviously doesn’t agree with me.
Ask Michael Huckabee if he would support a Mormon for president.
I do apologize; I suppose your nic would have to say funkyrooster?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:24:31pm |
re: #236 funky chicken
I’m a she, and I don’t care if Huntsman is a Mormon. The “anybody but Romney because he’s a Mormon” cadre of the GOP obviously doesn’t agree with me.
Ask Michael Huckabee if he would support a Mormon for president.
YOU LIE!! //
You’re obviously backtracking now. //
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:24:34pm |
re: #239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Since you didn’t ask for advice, and I’m a dude… here’s some advice.
Y’all decide what you want. Then let him go without you.
That is what we usually do.
I want a holder for my coffee cup, air conditioning and rear-window defrost.
Oh, I’d like it start and stop when I tell it to. Oh, and a heater is important.
I miss Saturn.
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:24:42pm |
re: #225 ggt
What I hate is when you walk in and say: “Show me the cheapest thing you have on the lot.”
and they respond: “Did you want 4WD?” or
“We’ll have to run your credit.”I want to just slap them. If they would simply comply, instead of play games, they would have sold a car today.
And the running back and forth to the F&I Manager’s office with little pieces of paper is childish.
I want to send all the managers of the dealers an email that says: “Hi, I’m looking for an the lowest price new-car I can get for an additional family vehicle. I don’t plan on keeping it for more than 4 years. I want a holder for my coffee cup, air conditioning and rear-window defrost. If you are interested in selling me a car, please email with an offer.”
You’re in a big metro area, it must be pretty competitive. I’ll bet someone would bite.
re: #231 ggt
Hubby came out a minute or two later. He loves playing these games.
It would take all his fun away, though.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:25:04pm |
re: #234 b_sharp
A consensual affair is meh. Harassment is a completely different situation that says an enormous amount about his attitude toward women.
That’s how I feel. Consensual affair, sure it means he’s a jerk to his wife but we’ve had great leaders that engaged in them. Harassment on the other hand completely different for what’s already been said. The Onion had it right on Cain. “Candidate who didn’t know China had nukes ends candidacy over alleged affair.” It was the things Cain said about foreign policy issues that really made me wonder about him as a candidate. Not to mention 9-9-9 which seemed like it was something he and his advisers put together rather than thinking hard about it. Plus I have an aversion to people who have never been elected anywhere seeking the highest office in the land.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:26:23pm |
re: #232 Sergey Romanov
> but it won’t make or break whether I vote for him.
It’s not simply a personal matter or flaw. Going for the election with such skeletons in the closet is an enormous flaw in judgment (cf. John Edwards) which might be a deal-breaker for me, depending on specific circumstances.
There’s that.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:26:45pm |
re: #237 EmmmieG
A consensual affair while your wife has cancer?
A 13 year affair that your wife obviously chose to ignore?
A consensual affair with the wife of a man who was serving his country overseas? (I don’t know anyone in this position, I just thought of it as a condition that would make it “worse.”)
There are definitely factors that might make me pay attention.
This is true. Edwards was a guy I lost respect for upon finding that out. Wasn’t a fan but I liked him a little.
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funky chicken Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:27:00pm |
re: #238 ggt
One dealer was advertizing the 0% financing in the paper today. The F&I guy said that he would have to run our credit to tell us what interest rates they had to offer. WTF? Do these guys realize the internet is out there—people are not as stupid about this stuff as they used to be & I worked in auto finance for a couple of years —discounting loans and leases. I have a clue.
On to the next dealer …
You want to keep it less than 4 years? Why not do a lease?
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:27:58pm |
re: #247 funky chicken
You want to keep it less than 4 years? Why not do a lease?
That is an option, but the Car Dealer Wastrels are too intent on playing their game to know how to sell a car.
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freetoken Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:28:37pm |
re: #234 b_sharp
Importantly, I think for many people, is that the latest affair drove home that Cain is indeed hiding lots of things, which gives weight to those women’s claims of their experience while working for the NRA.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:28:42pm |
Cops arrest 16 Occupy protesters on Capitol Hill
Police arrested 16 Occupy Seattle protesters early Saturday after the protesters broke into a locked Capitol Hill building, barricaded themselves inside and refused to leave.
…
The protesters then decided to hold a benefit concert as a fundraiser and let other people inside the building.
…
While the officers were at the door, some protesters scrambled onto the roof and began spitting on them.
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jvic Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:29:30pm |
re: #236 funky chicken
I’m a she, and I don’t care if Huntsman is a Mormon. The “anybody but Romney because he’s a Mormon” cadre of the GOP obviously doesn’t agree with me.
Ask Michael Huckabee if he would support a Mormon for president.
“Say, don’t Mormons believe that Jesus is Satan’s brother? Just asking.”
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:29:35pm |
re: #246 HappyWarrior
This is true. Edwards was a guy I lost respect for upon finding that out. Wasn’t a fan but I liked him a little.
I liked Edwards.
And that was one affair where it coming out did convince me he was utter scum, and to be crossed off the picnic and voting list for all time.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:30:19pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:30:20pm |
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:30:40pm |
re: #252 SanFranciscoZionist
I liked Edwards.
And that was one affair where it coming out did convince me he was utter scum, and to be crossed off the picnic and voting list for all time.
when he continued his campaign when his wife was diagnosed with Cancer, I decided he was a POS.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:31:24pm |
re: #254 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wastrels?
Good word, that.
The last dealer I almost asked to speak to someone with an IQ over 100.
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funky chicken Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:31:28pm |
re: #241 Sergey Romanov
LOL. I would have happily voted for Mitt Romney circa 2000, when he was still moderate on social issues. Not a chance in hell I would today since he’s proven himself to have absolutely no core principles whatsoever.
Huntsman at least seems willing to say what he thinks. He likes the Paul Ryan plan. I don’t, but at least I know…
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:31:34pm |
re: #251 jvic
“Say, don’t Mormons believe that Jesus is Satan’s brother? Just asking.”
One of a handful of events that REALLY undermined my fondness for Huckabee. I mean, I could never vote for him because he’s a batshit socon theocrat from heck, but I like him as a person.
Occasionally, these real nasty bits slip out though.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:31:37pm |
re: #255 ggt
when he continued his campaign when his wife was diagnosed with Cancer, I decided he was a POS.
best hair, ever
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Petero1818 Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:32:04pm |
re: #256 ggt
The last dealer I almost asked to speak to someone with an IQ over 100.
so did they go out to find someone for you?
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:32:05pm |
Gotta go fix a bike. Have some timeless American music while I’m away:
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:32:09pm |
re: #251 jvic
“Say, don’t Mormons believe that Jesus is Satan’s brother? Just asking.”
Of course, according to mainstream Christianity God outright created Satan (not in his final form, of course, but neither do Mormons claim he was born evil). But such a thought would never cross a bigoted fundie mind.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:32:23pm |
re: #259 albusteve
best hair, ever
It really is to bad that he couldn’t currently run for dogcatcher, because if he ran against Mitt Romney, it would be the battle of the follicles.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:32:45pm |
re: #252 SanFranciscoZionist
I always thought he was an insincere asshole. Not just because I’m a rightie either. I thought he stunk. (Stinked? Stank?)
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:32:49pm |
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:33:01pm |
re: #237 EmmmieG
A consensual affair while your wife has cancer?
Why would a disease change the situation? Is it somehow more unethical than if she were completely healthy?
A 13 year affair that your wife obviously chose to ignore?
That is her decision and none of our business.
A consensual affair with the wife of a man who was serving his country overseas? (I don’t know anyone in this position, I just thought of it as a condition that would make it “worse.”)
Again, that is an outside condition that doesn’t really affect the situation.
There are definitely factors that might make me pay attention.
It wouldn’t figure into it for me, but the harassment sure would.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:33:24pm |
re: #260 Petero1818
so did they go out to find someone for you?
Hubby totally took over because he knows how I can be when I’m tired of bullshit.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:34:01pm |
re: #252 SanFranciscoZionist
I liked Edwards.
And that was one affair where it coming out did convince me he was utter scum, and to be crossed off the picnic and voting list for all time.
Yeah nothing worse than cheating on your sick wife who poured her heart out for you.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:34:39pm |
re: #250 Killgore Trout
Fire up the pepper spray filled fire extinguisher.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:34:58pm |
re: #242 ggt
That is what we usually do.
I want a holder for my coffee cup, air conditioning and rear-window defrost.
Oh, I’d like it start and stop when I tell it to. Oh, and a heater is important.
I miss Saturn.
Can you really get cars without heaters? I can see block heaters, but interior heaters? That’s just wrong.
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freetoken Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:34:59pm |
Curious lack of pepper spray “engagement”:
Image: photos?url=https%3A%2F%2Fp.twimg.com%2FAfui-mhCIAAJYbT.jpg
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:35:01pm |
re: #265 Varek Raith
kniggets
A word originated in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. The French guys’ way of saying knights.I blow my nose at you so-called Arthur King. You and all your silly english kniggets!
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:35:44pm |
re: #270 b_sharp
Can you really get cars without heaters? I can see block heaters, but interior heaters? That’s just wrong.
When dealing with Car Dealers, leave no room.
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:35:55pm |
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:36:06pm |
re: #244 HappyWarrior
That’s how I feel. Consensual affair, sure it means he’s a jerk to his wife but we’ve had great leaders that engaged in them. Harassment on the other hand completely different for what’s already been said. The Onion had it right on Cain. “Candidate who didn’t know China had nukes ends candidacy over alleged affair.” It was the things Cain said about foreign policy issues that really made me wonder about him as a candidate. Not to mention 9-9-9 which seemed like it was something he and his advisers put together rather than thinking hard about it. Plus I have an aversion to people who have never been elected anywhere seeking the highest office in the land.
The 9-9-9 came from his last golf game.
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jvic Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:36:14pm |
re: #234 b_sharp
A consensual affair is meh. Harassment is a completely different situation that says an enormous amount about his attitude toward women.
And about his (or her) attitude toward power.
In particular, about the attitude, discretion and prudence regarding the use of power when such use is not explicitly restrained.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:36:32pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:36:40pm |
re: #272 ggt
Well, I think it’s close to the way “knights” was originally pronounced.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:36:51pm |
re: #264 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I always thought he was an insincere asshole. Not just because I’m a rightie either. I thought he stunk. (Stinked? Stank?)
Aaaand—you were right. He did stink.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:37:20pm |
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:38:25pm |
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EdDantes Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:38:27pm |
re: #4 albusteve
and Herman said, doc it’s only a scratch
“And I’ll be better as soon as I’m able”
-Beatles Rocky Raccoon
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:38:56pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:39:31pm |
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:39:40pm |
re: #264 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I always thought he was an insincere asshole. Not just because I’m a rightie either. I thought he stunk. (Stinked? Stank?)
I liked him more in 2004 but 2008 Edwards came across as shallow populism to me and his pandering annoyed me too. My favorite candidates were Obama, Biden(I like him for all his foot in mouthness because he chaired two committees that are of great interest to me), and Richardson(didn’t know he was corrupt and I liked the various experience he had).
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:39:57pm |
re: #266 b_sharp
Why would a disease change the situation? Is it somehow more unethical than if she were completely healthy?
Yes, actually, to me it does. A sick spouse is dependent on you in a way a healthy one is not. A person in good health can find out about the affair, pack his or her bags, and sue for joint custody. A person going through cancer treatments, say, has far fewer options, and is more likely to need the cheating partner.
Granted, we’re talking about degrees of assholishness, but it does add to it, in my mind.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:40:38pm |
re: #283 ggt
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
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EdDantes Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:40:59pm |
re: #270 b_sharp
Can you really get cars without heaters? I can see block heaters, but interior heaters? That’s just wrong.
I saw a used car ad about 40 years ago that boasted a “deleted heater.”
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:42:54pm |
re: #266 b_sharp
Why would a disease change the situation? Is it somehow more unethical than if she were completely healthy?
That is her decision and none of our business.
Again, that is an outside condition that doesn’t really affect the situation.
It wouldn’t figure into it for me, but the harassment sure would.
A. There is a degree of heartlessness there.
C. There is a degree of ingratitude that disgusts me. The man is out protecting your freedom and you’re screwing him over?*
*If he’s a total creep, she should divorce him outright and start over again. Actually, that’s my stand in all marital cases where the other adult is a functioning person.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:42:57pm |
re: #278 Sergey Romanov
Well, I think it’s close to the way “knights” was originally pronounced.
cnicht
English may be, I’m not sure, the only European language to use a word that doesn’t mean ‘horseman’ for ‘knight’, but instead this old word for a lord’s retainer.
Yet another of English’s oddities.
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jvic Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:43:18pm |
re: #258 SanFranciscoZionist
One of a handful of events that REALLY undermined my fondness for Huckabee. I mean, I could never vote for him because he’s a batshit socon theocrat from heck, but I like him as a person.
Occasionally, these real nasty bits slip out though.
I too liked him for a time, though not to the point of supporting him. Then his eyes grew on me.
Cold, Nixon eyes.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:43:33pm |
re: #276 jvic
And about his (or her) attitude toward power.
In particular, about the attitude, discretion and prudence regarding the use of power when such use is not explicitly restrained.
That’s part of a misogynistic attitude.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:43:34pm |
re: #291 SanFranciscoZionist
cnicht
English may be, I’m not sure, the only European language to use a word that doesn’t mean ‘horseman’ for ‘knight’, but instead this old word for a lord’s retainer.
Yet another of English’s oddities.
English is the oddest language ever to be spoken, and yet somehow it has risen to the top.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:44:10pm |
re: #183 Buck
Funny how that comment is not thought of as bigoted…
what, to say that the GOP’s evangelical base is tribalist to the core and won’t vote for a mormon, which they consider a heretical bastardization of Christianity?
That’s just a fact, jack. Me, I like mormons, don’t seem to get along with evangelicals, if you look at my close friends over the years? lots of mormons. No evangelicals.
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funky chicken Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:45:24pm |
Am I the only one who is kinda weirded out that they call LSU’s #7 “the honeybadger?” It just brings up a case of the willies about the history of how race and ethnicity were dealt with over the years in Louisisana.
Eg, from wikipedia:
Quadroon, and the associated words octoroon and quintroon are terms that, historically, were applied to define the ancestry of people of mixed-race, generally of African and Caucasian ancestry, but also, within Australia, to those of Aboriginal and Caucasian ancestry. The terms were used in law and government to provide a precise code of discrimination and the determination of rights. The use of such terminology is a characteristic of hypodescent, which is the practice within a society of assigning children of mixed union to the ethnic group which is perceived by the dominant group within the society as being “subordinate”. [1] The racial designations refer specifically to the number of full-blooded African ancestors, emphasizing the quantitative least, with quadroon signifying that a person has one-quarter black ancestry, etc.
I guess if he doesn’t mind? I dunno.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:45:24pm |
re: #294 EmmmieG
English is the oddest language ever to be spoken, and yet somehow it has risen to the top.
“The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that the English language is as pure as a crib-house whore. It not only borrows words from other languages; it has on occasion chased other languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them unconscious and rifled their pockets for new vocabulary.” ― James Nicoll
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:45:58pm |
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TedStriker Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:46:03pm |
re: #294 EmmmieG
English is the oddest language ever to be spoken, and yet somehow it has risen to the top.
It’s like the old joke:
Linguists claim that English borrows words from other languages. That’s a lie. English mugs other languages in dark alleys and rifles their pockets for nouns.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:47:44pm |
re: #299 talon_262
Interesting. Every language does that, but I noticed it starkly when I began reading texts in Polish. My knowledge of English and of some German really helped with many words where I wouldn’t even expect that.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:49:21pm |
I talk to my kids about this in English class. English has a real clunker of a grammar, inconsistent and held together with duct tape and paper clips, and tending to smoke from the tail-pipe. Where we excel is a grand excess of near-synonyms full of nuance and texture. It is a vocabulary-driven language.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:53:03pm |
re: #301 Sergey Romanov
Interesting. Every language does that, but I noticed it starkly when I began reading texts in Polish. My knowledge of English and of some German really helped with many words where I wouldn’t even expect that.
Best random language story from my years of teaching: I’m with my English learners. Two Spanish-speaking kids are working on geometry homework. One says to the other, “What’s ‘curve’ in Spanish?”
She says “curva”. He says “What?” She says, louder “CURVA.” He says “Oh, right, thanks.”
At this point my Hungarian kid starts to shriek with laughter, and yell, “Say it again, say it again!”
“What, curva?” says the Spanish speaker.
“Yeah!” Much laughter. “Say it again!”
At which point, my brain crosswires through Yiddish, and I say to the Hungarian kid, “That’s enough. Knock it off.”
“You know what it means in Hungarian?”
“Same thing it means in Yiddish. We both stole it from Polish I think. Hush up now.”
Spanish speaker: “Well, what does it mean in Hungarian?”
Me: “It means ‘puta’. Everyone back to work!”
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:55:25pm |
re: #302 SanFranciscoZionist
I talk to my kids about this in English class. English has a real clunker of a grammar, inconsistent and held together with duct tape and paper clips, and tending to smoke from the tail-pipe. Where we excel is a grand excess of near-synonyms full of nuance and texture. It is a vocabulary-driven language.
was doing laundry last week with a young Pueblo mom and her two little boys…she knew of only 18 people that spoke her ancient Tewa tongue…the most complicated sound you ever heard but her two boys spoke it, and Spanish, and English….made me stop and think….boys were like 4 and 2
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:56:09pm |
re: #303 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes, it’s from kurwa, and it also exists in Russian (and, I presume Ukrainian, Belorussian etc.).
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:56:21pm |
Vocabulary Word for the Day, deux:
Puta:
In Roman mythology, according to Arnobius, Puta presided over the pruning of trees and was a minor goddess of agriculture.[1]
According to one version, the etymology of its name comes from Latin and its literal meaning is pruning. The festivities in honor of this goddess celebrated tree pruning, and these days, the priestesses manifested themselves exercising a sacred carousal (prostituted themselves) honoring the goddess (which would explain the current meaning of the word in many Latin-speaking countries).
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:57:50pm |
re: #306 ggt
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:58:34pm |
re: #304 albusteve
was doing laundry last week with a young Pueblo mom and her two little boys…she knew of only 18 people that spoke her ancient Tewa tongue…the most complicated sound you ever heard but her two boys spoke it, and Spanish, and English…made me stop and think…boys were like 4 and 2
I’m glad she’s passing it on. Too many languages lost. The kids will carry it forward.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:58:49pm |
re: #305 Sergey Romanov
Yes, it’s from kurwa, and it also exists in Russian (and, I presume Ukrainian, Belorussian etc.).
Amazing what words travel furthest…
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albusteve Sat, Dec 3, 2011 4:01:22pm |
re: #308 SanFranciscoZionist
I’m glad she’s passing it on. Too many languages lost. The kids will carry it forward.
it’s do or die at this point….the thread is stretched thin and there is a huge resolve to not lose these old languages and customs…a really remarkable culture out here
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 4:01:50pm |
re: #311 albusteve
it’s do or die at this point…the thread is stretched thin and there is a huge resolve to not lose these old languages and customs…a really remarkable culture out here
Good luck to them.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Dec 3, 2011 4:02:43pm |
re: #303 SanFranciscoZionist
Best random language story from my years of teaching: I’m with my English learners. Two Spanish-speaking kids are working on geometry homework. One says to the other, “What’s ‘curve’ in Spanish?”
She says “curva”. He says “What?” She says, louder “CURVA.” He says “Oh, right, thanks.”
At this point my Hungarian kid starts to shriek with laughter, and yell, “Say it again, say it again!”
“What, curva?” says the Spanish speaker.
“Yeah!” Much laughter. “Say it again!”
At which point, my brain crosswires through Yiddish, and I say to the Hungarian kid, “That’s enough. Knock it off.”
“You know what it means in Hungarian?”
“Same thing it means in Yiddish. We both stole it from Polish I think. Hush up now.”
Spanish speaker: “Well, what does it mean in Hungarian?”
Me: “It means ‘puta’. Everyone back to work!”
Can’t beat Italian for grace. A common word for puta is “luciola” (firefly).
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 4:06:04pm |
re: #313 Decatur Deb
Can’t beat Italian for grace. A common word for puta is “luciola” (firefly).
Now that’s quite pretty.
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jvic Sat, Dec 3, 2011 4:09:10pm |
I am the child of refugees. As it happens, English is the third language I learned. I have completely forgotten the second, picked up before kindergarten. My knowledge of the first, spoken by my parents, is rudimentary; I have not used it since leaving home for college.
Writing is laborious for me. The result often strikes me as awkward unless I take more time to revise than usually is available.
Does the first paragraph have anything to do with the second? I don’t know, but that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 4:14:09pm |
re: #315 jvic
I am the child of refugees. As it happens, English is the third language I learned. I have completely forgotten the second, picked up before kindergarten. My knowledge of the first, spoken by my parents, is rudimentary; I have not used it since leaving home for college.
Writing is laborious for me. The result often strikes me as awkward unless I take more time to revise than usually is available.
Does the first paragraph have anything to do with the second? I don’t know, but that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
Based on having taught people with similar linguistic stories, yes, it well may. Learning multiple languages fluently is one thing, but it’s also possible for kids to end up in situations where they speak several, but never master any of them to level of sophisticated use, and writing is yet another step, especially for people who may not be literate in some of the languages they speak.
OTOH, there are plenty of people for whom writing is laborious and hard to do well who speak only their primary language. And you write quite fluently compared to, well, lots and lots of people.
Mileage varies, a lot.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 3, 2011 4:16:25pm |
My cousin and his wife are raising their little girl bilingual in English and Spanish. She is already, at two, starting to address people in one language, realize she should speak to them in the other, and switching.
Some friends are raising their kids to speak Russian and Vietnamese at home. They’ve been trying to keep them from learning English until they start school, to get the first two languages well ingrained, but the kids are picking it up somewhere. “On the street,” my mother likes to say.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 4:20:02pm |
re: #290 EmmmieG
A. There is a degree of heartlessness there.
C. There is a degree of ingratitude that disgusts me. The man is out protecting your freedom and you’re screwing him over?*
*If he’s a total creep, she should divorce him outright and start over again. Actually, that’s my stand in all marital cases where the other adult is a functioning person.
Cheating on your spouse indicates an unhealthy relationship or an unhealthy attitude toward relationships. Adding a conditional modifier to that changes nothing. At what point does, let’s say disease, change the severity of the problem? Stage one, stage two, stage four cancer? Anything that makes one spouse vulnerable? How about mental disease, depression for example, is that a factor that can change the ‘badness’ of infidelity? How about if the vulnerable spouse has a remarkable support net, or the spouses have an agreement?
In my mind, any relationship where infidelity is not part of the agreement but happens anyway is justification to either end the relationship, or to get outside help, and other factors are secondary.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 4:22:35pm |
re: #294 EmmmieG
English is the oddest language ever to be spoken, and yet somehow it has risen to the top.
Unless you suggest language forms the culture, it’s just taking its turn as the language used by the current most powerful culture.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 4:24:11pm |
re: #297 SanFranciscoZionist
“The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that the English language is as pure as a crib-house whore. It not only borrows words from other languages; it has on occasion chased other languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them unconscious and rifled their pockets for new vocabulary.” ― James Nicoll
English is a gutter language German ran away from screaming.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 4:26:23pm |
re: #302 SanFranciscoZionist
I talk to my kids about this in English class. English has a real clunker of a grammar, inconsistent and held together with duct tape and paper clips, and tending to smoke from the tail-pipe. Where we excel is a grand excess of near-synonyms full of nuance and texture. It is a vocabulary-driven language.
That seems to be changing through usage, vocabulary is shrinking with some words taking on more meanings. It’s becoming a context-driven language.
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jvic Sat, Dec 3, 2011 4:32:43pm |
re: #320 b_sharp
English is a gutter language German ran away from screaming.
Holy Roman Emperor Charles V did not even mention English (or any Slavic language…or Latin or Greek (?)) when he supposedly said:
I speak Spanish to God, French to men, Italian to women, and German to my horse.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 3, 2011 4:41:00pm |
re: #322 jvic
Holy Roman Emperor Charles V did not even mention English (or any Slavic language…or Latin or Greek (?)) when he supposedly said:
I speak Spanish to God, French to men, Italian to women, and German to my horse.
Please jvic, don’t interrupt me when I’m having an argument with myself. You’ll make me lose my train of thought.
Seriously though, it looks like we’ve been abandoned by the riffraff.
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Talking Point Detective Sat, Dec 3, 2011 5:01:16pm |
re: #315 jvic
I am the child of refugees. As it happens, English is the third language I learned. I have completely forgotten the second, picked up before kindergarten. My knowledge of the first, spoken by my parents, is rudimentary; I have not used it since leaving home for college.
Writing is laborious for me. The result often strikes me as awkward unless I take more time to revise than usually is available.
Does the first paragraph have anything to do with the second? I don’t know, but that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
One problem that many English as 2nd or 3rd language speakers have with writing is that they expect to be able to write well without revising. Of course, writers for whom English is their fist language may also have that problem, but a belief that you can write well without revising tends to be stronger for people whose first language isn’t English - in ways that are difficult to distinguish from other issues with grammar, usage, syntax, etc.
I offer any of my posts you might read as evidence that lack of revision time results in poor quality writing even for English as 1rst language writers.
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