Atlanta’s Fox 5 reports that Herman Cain is planning to endorse Newt Gingrich.
BREAKING: Sources tell FOX 5 News that Herman Cain will endorse Newt Gingrich Monday for the GOP Presidential Nominee.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:36:13pm |
Hey, at least Newt knows which countries have nukes.
Which is not to say I would vote for him.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:36:22pm |
Dumb conservative bigot to endorse dumb conservative bigot.
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calochortus Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:38:54pm |
I believe Barney Frank said something along the line of “I don’t think I’ve lived a good enough life to deserve Newt Gingrich as the nominee.” Not that Cain’s endorsement guarantees the nomination.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:39:16pm |
re: #4 Buck
Alleged… in Cain’s case at least.
All but confirmed at this point. You’re still defending this sleazebag?
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:39:20pm |
They both mess around, they both have a scam where they sell their books to their own campaign. Its the perfect match.
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TedStriker Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:40:12pm |
What a surprise…
Call me cynical, but I think this is a prelude for ol’ Herm to throw in as a VP candidate for Newt; that way, he can legally continue to raise campaign funds while his own campaign is “suspended” and he stays in the news (and in the hunt).
To the RWNJs, I can see that a potential Newt/Herman ticket would fire up the Anyone But Mitt (or Obama)-types
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Buck Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:40:16pm |
re: #6 thedopefishlives
All but confirmed at this point. You’re still defending this sleazebag?
Well, if you are biased, it might be confirmed, but if you are based in reality, it is still accused, or alleged.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:40:18pm |
I wonder if Newt got him a special deal on the diamonds that persuaded Gloria Cain not to leave.
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Lidane Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:41:01pm |
More proof that the only reason Cain got into this race was to make Newt look better by comparison.
There’s no way in hell that Newt Gingrich should be relevant in 2011. He got cast aside by the GOP for a reason. Now he’s suddenly the front runner? Pfft.
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bratwurst Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:42:07pm |
I guess many people who were uncomfortable supporting a man accused of having an affair will feel MUCH better getting behind someone who is confirmed to have had one.
I also like to remind people this man is every bit the quitter that Sarah Palin is. Instead of serving the constituents who re-elected him in 1998, he QUIT the House completely rather than face a leadership challenge.
Oh yeah, he also had 84 ethics charges filed against him while speaker. 84.
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Obdicut Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:42:22pm |
But his campaign is only ‘suspended’. Isn’t this going to interfere with raking in the dollars from the rubes, if he goes ahead and actually endorses another candidate?
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Obdicut Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:42:51pm |
re: #12 bratwurst
I guess many people who were uncomfortable supporting a man accused of having an affair will feel MUCH better getting behind someone who is confirmed to have had one.
Not just one.
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TedStriker Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:43:58pm |
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TedStriker Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:45:40pm |
re: #4 Buck
Alleged… in Cain’s case at least.
Oh, c’mon, Buck…the man admitted to some of this bad behavior, IIRC.
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Buck Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:46:12pm |
re: #16 talon_262
Oh, c’mon, Buck…the man admitted to some of this bad behavior, IIRC.
If you remembered correctly, then you wouldn’t say that.
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calochortus Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:46:42pm |
re: #13 Obdicut
I can’t imagine that the rubes will be sending him any more money. From the posts on Red State and FR, there are a certain number who are realizing they’ve been had. A few realized they’d been had when Sarah announced she wouldn’t run. Eventually perhaps they will quit giving to grifters.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:50:12pm |
re: #19 Lidane
ROFL. You’re defending that incompetent douchebag? Really?
What a joke.
He knows what Herman Cain is really guilty of.
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Lidane Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:51:12pm |
re: #20 thedopefishlives
He knows what Herman Cain is really guilty of.
Quoting Pokemon and stealing his economic ideas from Sim City?
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bratwurst Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:52:06pm |
re: #19 Lidane
ROFL. You’re defending that incompetent douchebag? Really?
What a joke.
On Buck’s home planet a LOT of men have secret 13 year “friendships” with women they support financially that are totally platonic.
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Obdicut Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:52:30pm |
re: #20 thedopefishlives
He knows what Herman Cain is really guilty of.
Oh right. We never did get that sorted out.
And hell, it is certainly possible that Herman Cain is just a deeply bizarre person who helped a woman out financially for thirteen years and kept it a secret from his wife for a perfectly innocent reason. I mean, my wife would be pissed if I did that, so I’m not sure it can be seen as completely innocent, but whatever.
I am still curious about what Cain is really guilty of, that Buck claimed he knew.
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:52:32pm |
re: #20 thedopefishlives
He knows what Herman Cain is really guilty of.
Saying the Taliban were going to take over Libya?
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Eclectic Infidel Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:55:38pm |
Same bird, same feathers.
In other news, I’ve discovered two Intarweb music sites
Grooveshark.com
and
Prostopleer.com/
(via Phlap.net — nsfw btw)
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:55:51pm |
re: #23 Obdicut
Oh right. We never did get that sorted out.
And hell, it is certainly possible that Herman Cain is just a deeply bizarre person who helped a woman out financially for thirteen years and kept it a secret from his wife for a perfectly innocent reason. I mean, my wife would be pissed if I did that, so I’m not sure it can be seen as completely innocent, but whatever.
I am still curious about what Cain is really guilty of, that Buck claimed he knew.
Most men, this would be divorce territory because most couples don’t make enough that this wouldn’t have deeply impacted the family finances. Few men have the resources to support two women in style.
If he were the kind of man who did this, wouldn’t he also be able to produce records showing that he had also supported people he couldn’t be supposed to have had sex with? Young fatherless children that live a long way away and old people in foreign countries?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:55:54pm |
re: #23 Obdicut
I actually wondered if we ever got an answer to that. I think the last time we had that discussion was on a Friday, and I don’t usually hang out with the Lizardim on weekends.
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freetoken Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:58:15pm |
re: #4 Buck
Alleged… in Cain’s case at least.
And twice forced the NRA to settle out of court over, in your words “alleged”, misbehavior of Herman Cain.
Dude, whatever one can say about needing to protect the presumed innocence of the accused, going to bat for such over Herman Cain just isn’t worth it.
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Lidane Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:59:25pm |
Even the Freepers are calling bullshit on Cain:
By suspending his campaign instead of quitting his campaign, Herman can still get federal matching funds in 2012.
Interesting point. Wonder why the idiot media hasn’t picking on that?
—-There will be many, if not the vast majority, that will blame his demise on the bimbo eruption factor. Not rue, his 9-9-9 plan did him in. The girls were simply a distraction.
—-Cain was and is a lightweight. Dangerously stupid on all things political.
—-It will be ironic when the Cain supporters go to Newt the consummate D.C. insider that represents everything they dislike about government. You just could not make this stuff up, no one would believe you.
—-By suspending his campaign instead of quitting his campaign, Herman can still get federal matching funds in 2012. But the campaign is over.
Isn’t this essentially exploiting a technicality to get a handout from us taxpayers?
—-Wonder who the suckers will flock to now.
—-Thank God! Cain was a one man clown car show.
Now that the sideshow has ended, let’s get on with the main event!
—-To say I am PO’d about this friggin song and dance from an ego-maniacal pretender would be an understatement. Not only did he damage a wife and family and shamed them all on a world stage but he brought the same embarrassment to his fellow Republican candidates.
I just wish there were a way for every lied to contributor to get their money back.
What a giant @hole.
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Buck Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:00:36pm |
re: #28 freetoken
And twice forced the NRA to settle out of court over
And those were about his being a “Philanderer” as stated in #0?
Try again.
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freetoken Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:01:12pm |
Between Buck defending Herman Cain here or tshinkle’s defense of that dowser Morner downstairs… I don’t know which one is sadder.
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jaunte Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:02:07pm |
re: #29 Lidane
Isn’t this essentially exploiting a technicality to get a handout from us taxpayers?
A light comes on.
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blueraven Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:03:29pm |
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calochortus Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:04:26pm |
re: #30 Buck
And those were about his being a “Philanderer” as stated in #0?
Try again.
I guess you could try and draw a moral distinction between sexual harassment and philandering, but I don’t think I’d try to make a strong case on one being better than the other.
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TedStriker Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:04:56pm |
re: #17 Buck
If you remembered correctly, then you wouldn’t say that.
re: #29 Lidane
Even the Freepers are calling bullshit on Cain:
Pity that some Freepers are just now figuring out what most sane people knew about Cain months ago…a grifter in the Palin mold.
Sorry, Buck, but that’s what he is.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:05:06pm |
re: #4 Buck
Alleged… in Cain’s case at least.
Not in Newt’s though, and he’s now the defacto front runner….
Guess that makes you glad you won’t have to worry about voting for him a year doesn’t it Buck?
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:05:34pm |
re: #9 Buck
Well, if you are biased, it might be confirmed, but if you are based in reality, it is still accused, or alleged.
Nice to know that it’s still offficially:
“He said - She Said. and so did she. and so did she. and so did she. and so did she. and so did she. and so did she. and those two would but are not legally allowed to”.
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calochortus Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:07:18pm |
re: #33 blueraven
Yes, a dim incandescent bulb.
That would be a bright incandescent bulb if only the evil government wasn’t outlawing 100 watt bulbs. (There is an actual thread on that topic at FR this evening.)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:07:56pm |
can we call Herman Cain an uncle tom yet?
Just last week Gingrich said Obama “knows how to get the whole country to resemble Detroit,” which just happens to be home to many black people. And last year Gingrich accused Obama of “Kenyan anti-colonialist behavior” that made him “outside our comprehension” as Americans, spreading Dinesh D’Souza’s idiocy that Obama inherited angry African anti-colonialism from the Kenyan father he never knew. “This is a person who is fundamentally out of touch with how the world works, who happened to have played a wonderful con, as a result of which he is now president,” Gingrich told the National Review Online last year.
Newt Gingrich doubled down on his clever new slur against President Obama as “the food stamp president.” He tried the line in a Friday speech to the Georgia Republican convention, and he used it again on “Meet the Press Sunday.”
Hope you win the nomination newt! So you can be annihalated in the general
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Buck Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:08:58pm |
re: #34 calochortus
You don’t even know what the accusations for those two cases were. The term is very general, and you have absolutely no knowledge of the facts.
However, you seem to have no problem with smearing a man’s reputation without any actual knowledge of the facts. For me that says more about you than it does Cain.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:10:49pm |
re: #41 Buck
You don’t even know what the accusations for those two cases were. The term is very general, and you have absolutely no knowledge of the facts.
However, you seem to have no problem with smearing a man’s reputation without any actual knowledge of the facts. For me that says more about you than it does Cain.
Dude, really? Really?
How many men do you know who financially support a woman, without their wives’ knowledge, who they are not related to or legally obligated to?
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jamesfirecat Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:10:55pm |
re: #41 Buck
You don’t even know what the accusations for those two cases were. The term is very general, and you have absolutely no knowledge of the facts.
However, you seem to have no problem with smearing a man’s reputation without any actual knowledge of the facts. For me that says more about you than it does Cain.
We know he was in a 13 year long relationship with a woman that he didn’t tell his wife about.
We don’t know if that relationship was sexual in nature or not, but at the very least he doesn’t seem to mind lying to those close to him, or is it natural to not tell your spouse about your important friends of the opposite sex?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:11:01pm |
re: #31 freetoken
Between Buck defending Herman Cain here or tshinkle’s defense of that dowser Morner downstairs… I don’t know which one is sadder.
It’s been an entertaining night, for sure. I almost don’t want to go to bed.
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Lidane Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:12:24pm |
re: #41 Buck
You know that all your bloviating is a moot point, right? Cain dropped out of the race already.
Also, find me a man who could support a woman that he’s not married to for over a decade without telling his wife? Every guy I know would find all his shit in the front yard and divorce papers being delivered to him at work if they pulled something like that.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:13:03pm |
re: #45 thedopefishlives
It’s been an entertaining night, for sure. I almost don’t want to go to bed.
And they had the second new episode of the second half of the fourth Season of Leverage on tonight, and they managed to turn it into a parody of the Office. I’m not a fan of that show but I still enjoyed it. Frankly I’m waiting for the Leverage episode which is a cross over/send up of Arrested Development, after all a rich but dysfunctional family laundering through and stealing money from their business, that would be right up Team Leverage’s alley!
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calochortus Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:13:50pm |
re: #41 Buck
I do lack your inside knowledge of the situations, but the fact the NRA settled with Cain’s accusers is a clue.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:14:12pm |
re: #43 EmmmieG
Dude, really? Really?
How many men do you know who financially support a woman, without their wives’ knowledge, who they are not related to or legally obligated to?
Maybe we’re learning a lot about Buck and where he comes from :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:14:54pm |
re: #41 Buck
You don’t even know what the accusations for those two cases were. The term is very general, and you have absolutely no knowledge of the facts.
However, you seem to have no problem with smearing a man’s reputation without any actual knowledge of the facts. For me that says more about you than it does Cain.
do you have a lady on the side, you know, fixing her up in an apartment
I’m just curious
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HoosierHoops Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:15:01pm |
re: #41 Buck
When you put yourself in front of the American Voter you are judged without pride or prejudice.. We have all the power for better or worse..
Cain was weighed, measured and found wanting..
Now go cry in your cereal…
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jaunte Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:15:52pm |
I think Cain would still be in if it weren’t for the phone records.
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Obdicut Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:17:33pm |
re: #46 Lidane
My wife is an amazingly forgiving person, and I don’t think she’d divorce me over the issue, but she’d require an explanation.
The thing is, I can’t think of any explanation for keeping it secret.
That’s the part that’s weird. I help out my buddy Sean with money from time to time, and I tell her about it, because why the hell wouldn’t I?
Maybe they’ve just got a spectacularly uncommunicative marriage.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:18:43pm |
re: #53 Obdicut
Oh, there’s a reason. Cain is unfaithful.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:19:23pm |
re: #53 Obdicut
My wife is an amazingly forgiving person, and I don’t think she’d divorce me over the issue, but she’d require an explanation.
The thing is, I can’t think of any explanation for keeping it secret.
That’s the part that’s weird. I help out my buddy Sean with money from time to time, and I tell her about it, because why the hell wouldn’t I?
Maybe they’ve just got a spectacularly uncommunicative marriage.
I just told you, one of the cross beams has gone out askew on the treadle I didn’t expect a sort of Spanish Inquisition!
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Lidane Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:20:24pm |
re: #53 Obdicut
My wife is an amazingly forgiving person, and I don’t think she’d divorce me over the issue, but she’d require an explanation.
The thing is, I can’t think of any explanation for keeping it secret.
The reason for keeping it secret is obvious. They were having an affair.
A married man simply doesn’t keep something like that from his wife if it really is totally innocent. The only reason to keep quiet about it is if she’s your mistress and you want to keep her close by.
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makeitstop Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:20:57pm |
re: #22 bratwurst
On Buck’s home planet a LOT of men have secret 13 year “friendships” with women they support financially that are totally platonic and their wives are totally unaware of.
FTFY
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Obdicut Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:21:09pm |
re: #54 ProLifeLiberal
Oh, there’s a reason. Cain is unfaithful.
Maybe not. That’s my point. It’s the keeping it a secret part that’s weird. It’s almost more abnormal and shocking if he didn’t have an affair with her, because that raises the question: why the hell didn’t he tell his wife that he had this friend he helped out? Even if he hadn’t before he started running for President, why didn’t he before then?
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:23:09pm |
re: #58 Obdicut
Well, I’m a touch more harsh than you. The only reason you wouldn’t tell a significant other is if you were cheating.
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Obdicut Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:24:41pm |
re: #56 Lidane
The reason for keeping it secret is obvious. They were having an affair.
A married man simply doesn’t keep something like that from his wife if it really is totally innocent. The only reason to keep quiet about it is if she’s your mistress and you want to keep her close by.
Oh, I seriously know couples where this could happen, completely uncommunicative couples. One of my friends has parents like this. The mother was unaware, for example, that her husband was going to be in Switzerland for a month.
Wasn’t really what I’d call a marriage, though.
I don’t give a shit, though, if he had an affair or didn’t. The sexual harassment charges are something kinda important, but any did-he-or-didn’t-he about an affair I just don’t care. Other people’s sex lives bore me.
There’s plenty of reasons to find him a clueless huckster. He’s trying to become president based on swotting up on the answers a few nights a week. He’s amazingly ignorant.
That is far more important than whether or not he had sex with an improbably-named woman.
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jaunte Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:24:52pm |
re: #58 Obdicut
There is the chance he could be the worst closer in the history of attempted affairs.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:25:03pm |
I just realized that my grandfather sent support to a woman in Japan for years without my grandmother knowing it.
She had been a small orphan, begging. I’ll spare you the whole story, but she was a little girl that Grandpa felt he had a responsibility to, so (as the story goes—I heard it after his death, from my father) he took her to a somewhere that would take care of her and periodically sent money for her support.
He never went back to Japan. There was not much contact. It stopped when she was an adult.
Why did he do it? Guilt, probably. My grandfather wasn’t emotionally constructed to be a soldier.
He never talked about the war with my grandmother. Most of what we know was learned when my father and he went hunting, or when he talked to my Vietnam Vet uncle when he got back.
So there’s one reason a man would send money to a female he was unrelated to and not sleeping with.
Not sure what else to say, except that I think this story has no bearing on Cain whatsoever. I’m posting it to show that there might be a reason, but it would be easy to establish what the reason is.
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blueraven Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:25:26pm |
I can understand defending some candidate or politician you like up to a point. But good grief…its over.
I remember how disappointed I was when Wiener turned out to be a creep. Then I was angry.
Maybe its time to get out of denial Buck, and get mad!
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calochortus Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:26:42pm |
re: #59 ProLifeLiberal
Actually, I can think of another reason, but it isn’t much better than cheating. If you are so arrogant, and controlling that you considered all the money you made as yours, and your spouse having no right to it, and no right to any knowledge about it, then you might do all sorts of things with that money.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:27:05pm |
re: #63 blueraven
I can understand defending some candidate or politician you like up to a point. But good grief…its over.
I remember how disappointed I was when Wiener turned out to be a creep. Then I was angry.
Maybe its time to get out of denial Buck, and get mad!
Why anger? Politicians get caught with “zipper-control” issues all the time. It’s happened too many times to provoke any anger in me anymore.
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Targetpractice Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:27:39pm |
re: #58 Obdicut
Maybe not. That’s my point. It’s the keeping it a secret part that’s weird. It’s almost more abnormal and shocking if he didn’t have an affair with her, because that raises the question: why the hell didn’t he tell his wife that he had this friend he helped out? Even if he hadn’t before he started running for President, why didn’t he before then?
I know my own mother gets bent out of shape if my father spends more than agreed upon for anything. So if he was giving some woman who my mother had no knowledge of money for 13 years, you can bet that “good friend” would not be the conclusion she automatically reached.
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blueraven Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:27:56pm |
re: #65 Dark_Falcon
Why anger? Politicians get caught with “zipper-control” issues all the time. It’s happened too many times to provoke any anger in me anymore.
Better than denial. It’s a process.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:28:19pm |
re: #65 Dark_Falcon
Why anger? Politicians get caught with “zipper-control” issues all the time. It’s happened too many times to provoke any anger in me anymore.
Just because it happens all the time doesn’t mean we have to accept it as an inevitable status quo and not get pissed off by it.
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Obdicut Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:29:05pm |
re: #66 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Obviously the first conclusion anyone would reach upon being told that a married man financially supports a woman he’s not related to or owes any obligation to and keeps it secret from his wife was that he was having an affair with her.
Which is why people are reaching that conclusion.
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jaunte Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:31:14pm |
“If Anthony Weiner had committed adultery instead of just tweeting about it, he could be Newt Gingrich right now.”
—Andy Borowitz
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:32:48pm |
re: #68 jamesfirecat
Just because it happens all the time doesn’t mean we have to accept it as an inevitable status quo and not get pissed off by it.
It’s an issue when the candidate defends the “sanctity of Marriage” from the attack of Liberals (Cain’s basic sentiment).
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calochortus Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:33:44pm |
re: #71 calochortus
That’s weird-I can’t get what I typed to post. I’ll try again.
Good points.
And let’s face it, Cain wasn’t going to be the nominee anyway. Even wingnuts had trouble with actually seeing him as president. 9-9-9 would have raised most people’s taxes, and as refreshing as an “outsider” may be, we all really prefer a president who knows China has had nuclear weapons for decades.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:34:06pm |
re: #68 jamesfirecat
Just because it happens all the time doesn’t mean we have to accept it as an inevitable status quo and not get pissed off by it.
I feel that acceptance is better than anger. I get ticked often enough. Better to just shake your head in weary resignation on this one and walk on.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:34:47pm |
Does anybody here play Empire:Total War?
My current game (as Russia) has a situation so batshit, it is incredible
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:36:20pm |
re: #75 ProLifeLiberal
It’s Russia. Without even knowing the game, I can tell you that if you want sanity, play as Sweden or something.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:36:48pm |
re: #74 Dark_Falcon
I feel that acceptance is better than anger. I get ticked often enough. Better to just shake your head in weary resignation on this one and walk on.
Congratulations Dark I think you just summed up perfectly why you’re a Conservative and I’m a liberal, one of us dreams of a better tomorrow and the other seeks to make the best of living “today” changing how we react to situations rather than situations themselves.
(Not intended to come across as an insult just something I noticed)
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:37:33pm |
re: #75 ProLifeLiberal
Does anybody here play Empire:Total War?
My current game (as Russia) has a situation so batshit, it is incredible
Shoot your own troops.
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Targetpractice Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:38:47pm |
re: #78 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Shoot your own troops.
Keep them moving forward by putting something scarier than the enemy behind them.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:39:37pm |
re: #76 EmmmieG
True, however a 4-way alliance between the Ottoman Empire, Russia, Prussia, and Persia is slightly odd.
That is to say, all four of these nations are allies with one another. One will notice some issues with this theory in history.
re: #78 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Unfortunately, that happens alot. Had incident earlier today where a Dragoon unit was half wiped out by fire from another dragoon unit it was with.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:40:21pm |
re: #79 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Keep them moving forward by putting something scarier than the enemy behind them.
Oh, the answers we can find, here.
Lady Gaga?
Bachmann’s inauguration?
A Best Hits of Justin Bieber collection?
A report on the current state of the US housing market?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:42:19pm |
re: #80 ProLifeLiberal
True, however a 4-way alliance between the Ottoman Empire, Russia, Prussia, and Persia is slightly odd.
That is to say, all four of these nations are allies with one another. One will notice some issues with this theory in history.
re: #78 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Unfortunately, that happens alot. Had incident earlier today where a Dragoon unit was half wiped out by fire from another dragoon unit it was with.
Well, while I can see similarities in these four countries, the primary similarity is that they were all ruthless in their rule and very authoritarian.
Not sure this would lead to good relationships in war.
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:42:53pm |
re: #81 EmmmieG
Oh, the answers we can find, here.
Lady Gaga?
Bachmann’s inauguration?
A Best Hits of Justin Bieber collection?
A report on the current state of the US housing market?
GOP debates, with special commentary by WND
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sagehen Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:43:09pm |
re: #9 Buck
Well, if you are biased, it might be confirmed, but if you are based in reality, it is still accused, or alleged.
Here was his lawyer’s statement:
“Mr. Cain has been informed today that your television station plans to broadcast a story this evening in which a female will make an accusation that she engaged in a 13-year long physical relationship with Mr. Cain. This is not an accusation of harassment in the workplace - this is not an accusation of an assault - which are subject matters of legitimate inquiry to a political candidate.
Rather, this appears to be an accusation of private, alleged consensual conduct between adults - a subject matter which is not a proper subject of inquiry by the media or the public. No individual, whether a private citizen, a candidate for public office or a public official, should be questioned about his or her private sexual life. The public’s right to know and the media’s right to report has boundaries and most certainly those boundaries end outside of one’s bedroom door.”
[Link: 2012.talkingpointsmemo.com…]
Not exactly a denial, is it?
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Targetpractice Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:44:06pm |
re: #84 sagehen
Here was his lawyer’s statement:
[Link: 2012.talkingpointsmemo.com…]
Not exactly a denial, is it?
“Even if he’s involved in an affair (and we’re not saying he is!), then that’s between him and his wife!”
Yeah, grand denial, that be.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:44:40pm |
re: #84 sagehen
I haven’t worked out the precise weight yet, in wingnut speak, of how many womens words equal the value of that of one male GOP presidential candidate .
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:45:07pm |
re: #84 sagehen
Here was his lawyer’s statement:
[Link: 2012.talkingpointsmemo.com…]
Not exactly a denial, is it?
That’s not even a none-denial denial.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:46:02pm |
re: #82 EmmmieG
In this case, however, the Ottoman Empire is now the Ottoman Republic.
Both me and Prussia have advanced to the Rights of Man and Prussia’s Government is more popular among the Nobles. Persia’s having an issue with the Marathas, so I don’t know about them. But all three of the others are, by the game’s rankings, the most enlightened.
History got driven off a cliff.
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funky chicken Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:46:32pm |
re: #79 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Keep them moving forward by putting something scarier than the enemy behind them.
Hey, it worked for Stalin.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:46:49pm |
re: #83 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
GOP debates, with special commentary by WND
Joseph Farah gives you his take on the debate, in between doing hits of coke off a hunting knife
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calochortus Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:46:51pm |
re: #84 sagehen
Here was his lawyer’s statement:
[Link: 2012.talkingpointsmemo.com…]
Not exactly a denial, is it?
No, but it is an entirely new opinion to come out of a Republican. Except about himself, of course.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:47:06pm |
re: #88 ProLifeLiberal
In this case, however, the Ottoman Empire is now the Ottoman Republic.
Both me and Prussia have advanced to the Rights of Man and Prussia’s Government is more popular among the Nobles. Persia’s having an issue with the Marathas, so I don’t know about them. But all three of the others are, by the game’s rankings, the most enlightened.
History got driven off a cliff.
Yeah, when I was in high school, we had a mock UN in which Israel was, unfortunately, played by a unpopular Beta-type girl, who proceeded to give everyone everything they wanted.
It happens.
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funky chicken Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:48:36pm |
My sidebar ad is for Ron Paul copper coins. ?!
Wha?
And another one for independent living via gold bullion.
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calochortus Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:48:42pm |
re: #86 wozzablog
I haven’t worked out the precise weight yet, in wingnut speak, of how many womens words equal the value of that of one male GOP presidential candidate .
Well, in Muslim courts apparently it is (usually) 2 women=1 man. Apparently the Cain campaign considered that to be a lax position. It must take at least a dozen women.
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:49:14pm |
re: #90 WindUpBird
Joseph Farah gives you his take on the debate, in between doing hits of coke off a hunting knife
“I just wanna carve WND on your forehead.”
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:50:57pm |
re: #95 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
“I just wanna carve WND on your forehead.”
*SNOOORT*
“so did you know Obama’s a muslim reptilian yeahYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAH oh man I rule!”
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:51:13pm |
re: #92 EmmmieG
It’s a weird Power Block, with all of us at war with the Maratha Confederacy and the United Kingdom.
The UK is screwed. In power, Russia’s #1, Prussia’s #2, Ottoman’s #5 (out of 12), and Persia was able to fend of the Maratha’s, who are #4 (UK is #3).
However, I will keep the UK alive for a bit. Just long enough to get the Colonies.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:51:49pm |
re: #97 ProLifeLiberal
It’s a weird Power Block, with all of us at war with the Maratha Confederacy and the United Kingdom.
The UK is screwed. In power, Russia’s #1, Prussia’s #2, Ottoman’s #5 (out of 12), and Persia was able to fend of the Maratha’s, who are #4 (UK is #3).
However, I will keep the UK alive for a bit. Just long enough to get the Colonies.
This will be a very alternate reality.
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Varek Raith Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:52:21pm |
re: #97 ProLifeLiberal
It’s a weird Power Block, with all of us at war with the Maratha Confederacy and the United Kingdom.
The UK is screwed. In power, Russia’s #1, Prussia’s #2, Ottoman’s #5 (out of 12), and Persia was able to fend of the Maratha’s, who are #4 (UK is #3).
However, I will keep the UK alive for a bit. Just long enough to get the Colonies.
What’s this from?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:52:23pm |
re: #98 EmmmieG
This will be a very alternate reality.
America?
Overcome and ruled by sentient wolverines
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Targetpractice Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:52:31pm |
re: #97 ProLifeLiberal
It’s a weird Power Block, with all of us at war with the Maratha Confederacy and the United Kingdom.
The UK is screwed. In power, Russia’s #1, Prussia’s #2, Ottoman’s #5 (out of 12), and Persia was able to fend of the Maratha’s, who are #4 (UK is #3).
However, I will keep the UK alive for a bit. Just long enough to get the Colonies.
Steampunk tech?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:52:54pm |
re: #100 WindUpBird
America?
Overcome and ruled by sentient wolverines
Ruled by Lady Gaga, the queen of the Badgers.
I just like the image.
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funky chicken Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:53:29pm |
Well, I’m going to resist the temptation to purchase Ron Paul coins for this evening. Good night everybody. :-)
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:55:15pm |
re: #99 Varek Raith
I’m playing a (slightly old) game called Empire:Total War.
As Russia. Right now up to the year 1741.
Also, you Profile pic is awesome. Where is this whole Arrow to Knee thing from anyway? I know it is Skyrim related.
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:56:22pm |
re: #104 ProLifeLiberal
I’m playing a (slightly old) game called Empire:Total War.
As Russia. Right now up to the year 1741.
I finally picked up Civ4 this weekend on special.
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Varek Raith Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:56:54pm |
re: #105 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I finally picked up Civ4 this weekend on special.
*Whack*
You’re late!
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:58:03pm |
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:58:06pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:59:03pm |
re: #77 jamesfirecat
Congratulations Dark I think you just summed up perfectly why you’re a Conservative and I’m a liberal, one of us dreams of a better tomorrow and the other seeks to make the best of living “today” changing how we react to situations rather than situations themselves.
(Not intended to come across as an insult just something I noticed)
I think it’s more about age, honestly. Eventually, you just get tired of getting mad, because you realize you can’t actually solve the problem. And when i faced that realization, I gave up. I just accepted the fact that politics attracts men who cheat on their wives.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:00:11pm |
re: #110 Dark_Falcon
I think it’s more about age, honestly. Eventually, you just get tired of getting mad, because you realize you can’t actually solve the problem. And when i faced that realization, I gave up. I just accepted the fact that
politicsheterosexual marriage attracts men who cheat on their wives.
;p
| 112 |
FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:01:26pm |
Hey all!
How is the evening going?
Damnit! Puppy graduated today from Chukkers (sp?). Next hunt he will be going for Pheasants. Hubby is so pleased.
Puppy is passed-out.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:02:56pm |
re: #98 EmmmieG
This will be a very alternate reality.
I can never tell if they are talking current events, history or computer games.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:03:24pm |
re: #113 ggt
I can never tell if they are talking current events, history or computer games.
In this case, I could eliminate two very quickly, which left games.
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:03:40pm |
re: #113 ggt
I can never tell if they are talking current events, history or computer games.
They’re all the same thing.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:04:43pm |
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:05:03pm |
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:05:05pm |
re: #74 Dark_Falcon
You asked me to ask this again so I will, how do you feel about the idea in the following quote of Gingrich’s?:
I am intrigued with something which Robby George at Princeton has come up with, which is an interpretation of the 14th Amendment, in which it says that Congress shall define personhood. That’s very clearly in the 14th Amendment. And part of what I would like to explore is whether or not you could get the Congress to pass a law which simply says: Personhood begins at conception. And therefore—and you could, in the same law, block the court and just say, ‘This will not be subject to review,’ which we have precedent for. You would therefore not have to have a constitutional amendment, because the Congress would have exercised its authority under the 14th Amendment to define life, and to therefore undo all of Roe vs. Wade, for the entire country, in one legislative action…
Does anybody know what “precedent” Newt is talking about?
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Varek Raith Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:07:09pm |
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:08:09pm |
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:08:23pm |
re: #121 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The worms! THE WORMS!
FIRST BLOOD
kamikazee!
(I neeed to find those old sound files)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:09:01pm |
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Lidane Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:09:44pm |
re: #118 goddamnedfrank
Does anybody know what “precedent” Newt is talking about?
The one that he pulled out of his ass. He’s lying, as usual.
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aagcobb Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:10:07pm |
re: #8 talon_262
What a surprise…
Call me cynical, but I think this is a prelude for ol’ Herm to throw in as a VP candidate for Newt; that way, he can legally continue to raise campaign funds while his own campaign is “suspended” and he stays in the news (and in the hunt).
To the RWNJs, I can see that a potential Newt/Herman ticket would fire up the Anyone But Mitt (or Obama)-types
I can’t see Newt selecting Cain as his VP; he has to get some women to vote for him to have a chance to win, and I don’t the the all-misogyny ticket will do the trick. I would guess Newt would want a woman VP if he won the nomination.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:10:34pm |
re: #118 goddamnedfrank
You asked me to ask this again so I will, how do you feel about the idea in the following quote of Gingrich’s?:
Does anybody know what “precedent” Newt is talking about?
Didn’t he present that one of the “debates”? He wanted to create an “Act of Congress”, not a law or amendment, that would circumvent the Constitution.
Let me look.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:10:58pm |
“That whore Planet is fucking up my thermal boreholes!”
-Nwabudike Morgan, Datalinks, just before mindworms pour out of the walls of his penthouse
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:10:59pm |
re: #126 aagcobb
I can’t see Newt selecting Cain as his VP; he has to get some women to vote for him to have a chance to win, and I don’t the the all-misogyny ticket will do the trick. I would guess Newt would want a woman VP if he won the nomination.
Gingrich/Cain 2012: If your sister were going to marry either of these men, you’d kidnap her until she came to her senses.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:11:33pm |
re: #120 jaunte
He’s lying. There is no precedent.
Wasn’t there a bill passed by the House this year that contained some insane clause stating that if it wasn’t taken up by the Senate within some number of days that it automatically became law? I think he might be talking about some crazy shit like that, something that never actually became law because it contained too much batshit for a Senate or President to ever go for it.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:12:41pm |
We have good news, and bad news about the Russian Elections:
Good News: Despite attempts at Vote-Rigging, Putin’s United Russia Party lost about 15% of the vote (Down to 49%)
Bad News: Both the Communist Party and Vladimir Zhirinovsky’s Party made major gains. (To 19.15% and 11.66%)
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:13:29pm |
re: #131 ProLifeLiberal
We have good news, and bad news about the Russian Elections:
Good News: Despite attempts at Vote-Rigging, Putin’s United Russia Party lost about 15% of the vote (Down to 49%)
Bad News: Both the Communist Party and Vladimir Zhirinovsky’s Party made major gains. (To 19.15% and 11.66%)
The Communists are more pluralistic than Putin’s mob ;)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:13:47pm |
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jaunte Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:13:50pm |
re: #130 goddamnedfrank
That’s probably it. It’s clearly unconstitutional, b.s. for the rubes he thinks will believe him.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:15:15pm |
re: #118 goddamnedfrank
You asked me to ask this again so I will, how do you feel about the idea in the following quote of Gingrich’s?:
Does anybody know what “precedent” Newt is talking about?
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:15:21pm |
re: #133 WindUpBird
He’s a grade A nut, from the same Bushel of Crazy as Al-Hakim, worst Pre-Modern Ruler in the Muslim World (Aside from the Sauds).
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Varek Raith Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:15:21pm |
re: #128 WindUpBird
“That whore Planet is fucking up my boreholes!”
-Nwabudike Morgan, Datalinks, just before mindworms pour out of the walls of his penthouse
“Fuck this shit, drop a planet buster”
-Colonel Santiago
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sagehen Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:15:44pm |
re: #110 Dark_Falcon
I think it’s more about age, honestly. Eventually, you just get tired of getting mad, because you realize you can’t actually solve the problem. And when i faced that realization, I gave up. I just accepted the fact that politics attracts men who cheat on their wives.
Unlike gay marriage, which attracts men who cheat on their husbands.
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tnguitarist Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:16:32pm |
Newt wants to do away with one of those pesky branches of government. Man, those guys sure do heart the Constitution!
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:16:47pm |
re: #135 ggt
video of Newt explaining it.
width=”560” height=”315” src=”[Link: www.youtube.com…] frameborder=”0” allowfullscreen>
I can’t get this embed to work.
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Varek Raith Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:17:41pm |
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:17:52pm |
re: #141 ggt
A post I just did had an issue with links too.
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jaunte Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:18:54pm |
Will American Voters Elect an Unbearably Pompous President?
…Republicans have relentlessly pushed the idea that Obama is an egghead, an Ivy League elitist, a ditherer who is too professorial to lead, and the usual run of anti-intellectual attacks. The state of the economy makes the electorate at large more willing than they might otherwise be to buy into that story. Certainly, Obama is no longer the fresh new face onto which people can project what they wish to see.
Nominating Gingrich would, at a minimum, severely complicate that line of attack. This is a candidate, after all, who shows no sign of being willing to adjust his personality to become more likable or less pompous. Although he might be able to go through the motions of judging pie-eating contests at county fairs, he fairly drips of condescension wherever he goes. Even the most angry voters might find it a stretch to say, “I’m voting for Newt because Obama’s a pointy-headed intellectual. I want a guy who’s not always thinking so much.”
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:19:25pm |
re: #143 ProLifeLiberal
A post I just did had an issue with links too.
You mean, for once, it’s not me?
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Varek Raith Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:20:17pm |
More Radioactive Water Leaks at Japanese Plant
TOKYO — At least 45 tons of highly radioactive water have leaked from a purification facility at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station, and some of it may have reached the Pacific Ocean, the plant’s operator said Sunday.
Nearly nine months after Fukushima Daiichi was ravaged by an earthquake and tsunami, the plant continues to pose a major environmental threat. Before the latest leak, the Fukushima accident had been responsible for the largest single release of radioactivity into the ocean, threatening wildlife and fisheries in the region, experts have said.The new radioactive water leak called into question the progress that the plant’s operator, Tokyo Electric Power Company, appeared to have made in bringing its reactors under control. The company, known as Tepco, has said that it hopes to bring the plant to a stable state known as a cold shutdown by the end of the year.
The trouble on Sunday came in two stages, a Tepco statement said. In the morning, utility workers found that radioactive water was pooling in a catchment next to a purification device; the system was switched off, and the leak appeared to stop. But the company said it later discovered that leaked water was escaping, possibly through cracks in the catchment’s concrete wall, and was reaching an external gutter.
In all, as much as 220 tons of water may now have leaked from the facility, according to a report in the newspaper Asahi Shimbun that cited Tepco officials.
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:21:01pm |
re: #137 Varek Raith
“Fuck this shit, drop a planet buster”
-Colonel Santiago
It is every citizen’s final duty to go into the tanks and become one with all the people.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:21:57pm |
re: #147 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
It is every citizen’s final duty to go into the tanks and become one with all the people.
No, I refuse. I want to be come one with nature.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:23:10pm |
re: #118 goddamnedfrank
You asked me to ask this again so I will, how do you feel about the idea in the following quote of Gingrich’s?:
Does anybody know what “precedent” Newt is talking about?
No, I have no idea. I’ve heard of this idea before, but I still do not have the first clue about where it comes from.
And I don’t read the 14th Amendment as allowing Congress to define ‘personhood’. Section 1 of that Amendment reads as follows:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
This was written to overturn the Dredd Scott decision and establish that all people born in the US and under its jurisdiction were citizens. Where Congress came in is at the end, in Section 5:
The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
This was intended to allow Congress to set up the legal frame work to enforce the new amendment, not to allow the Congress to define personhood. I very seriously doubt that Thadeus Stevens and the other authors of the 14th Amendment would have wanted to give Congress the power to define personhood, since that would give a future Congress the potential power to undo the equalizing work the 14th Amendment was designed to aid.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:23:26pm |
Knew this was coming. Just makes too much sense since Cain and Newt are friends, the polls reflecting Newt getting Cain’s supporters, and Cain was always alot more tough on Romney and Perry than he was Newt.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:23:40pm |
re: #141 ggt
video of Newt explaining it.
width=”560” height=”315” src=”[Link: www.youtube.com…] frameborder=”0” allowfullscreen>
I can’t get this embed to work.
I personally think it’s bat-shit scary that a presidential hopeful talks about ways to circumvent the Constitution.
| 152 |
Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:24:09pm |
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:24:18pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:24:22pm |
re: #149 Dark_Falcon
No, I have no idea. I’ve heard of this idea before, but I still do not have the first clue about where it comes from.
And I don’t read the 14th Amendment as allowing Congress to define ‘personhood’. Section 1 of that Amendment reads as follows:
This was written to overturn the Dredd Scott decision and establish that all people born in the US and under its jurisdiction were citizens. Where Congress came in is at the end, in Section 5:
This was intended to allow Congress to set up the legal frame work to enforce the new amendment, not to allow the Congress to define personhood. I very seriously doubt that Thadeus Stevens and the other authors of the 14th Amendment would have wanted to give Congress the power to define personhood, since that would give a future Congress the potential power to undo the equalizing work the 14th Amendment was designed to aid.
Yeah, I was just thinking that the entire point of the 14th Amendment was to put citizenship beyond the power of any legislature to define.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:25:00pm |
I find Newt’s lack of respect for checks and balances disturbing honest. His whole mindset seems to be screw USSC if they make a ruling I dislike.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:26:26pm |
re: #155 HappyWarrior
I find Newt’s lack of respect for checks and balances disturbing honest. His whole mindset seems to be screw USSC if they make a ruling I dislike.
Don’t you get it? Newt is so amazingly smarter than the rest of us. He knows what is best. We should just listen and do what he says. He will be the Benevolent Dictator that we always needed.
/gah
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:26:50pm |
re: #155 HappyWarrior
I find Newt’s lack of respect for checks and balances disturbing honest. His whole mindset seems to be screw USSC if they make a ruling I dislike.
It’s an entirely John Yoo kind of pre-approved, pre-packaged denial of everything that has existed before now in terms of presidential power restraint. Bush/Cheney loved it - but didn’t take it as far as Yoo thought they could.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:27:32pm |
re: #155 HappyWarrior
I find Newt’s lack of respect for checks and balances disturbing honest. His whole mindset seems to be screw USSC if they make a ruling I dislike.
Yeah, I really want him to be pressed hard on this issue before the primaries are settled. As much as I dislike Romney, the idea of someone like Gingrich with his clear contempt of the judiciary getting an honest shot at the Presidency is truly frightening.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:28:17pm |
The whole “state of war” we are suppossedly in gives the tyrannical bad ideas. Egypt just went thru this didn’t they?
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sagehen Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:28:26pm |
re: #149 Dark_Falcon
Any sets of rights and standards applying to “all persons born or naturalized…” would seem to explicitly exclude the unborn. Poor Newtie.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:29:17pm |
Somebody I follow just found an odd map. It is questionable in SFW-ness. Anyone want to see it?
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:29:19pm |
re: #160 sagehen
Any sets of rights and standards applying to “all persons born or naturalized…” would seem to explicitly exclude the unborn. Poor Newtie.
And we’re back to last nights discussion of the Scottish Play.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:29:26pm |
re: #160 sagehen
Any sets of rights and standards applying to “all persons born or naturalized…” would seem to explicitly exclude the unborn. Poor Newtie.
Confederates don’t like the 14th Amendment.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:29:48pm |
re: #158 goddamnedfrank
Yeah, I really want him to be pressed hard on this issue before the primaries are settled. As much as I dislike Romney, the idea of someone like Gingrich with his clear contempt of the judiciary getting an honest shot at the Presidency is truly frightening.
I hope so too. It’s a very Jacksonque in response to John Marshall in the Indian Removal ACt- “He has made the law now let’s see him enforce it.” mindset.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:30:47pm |
re: #156 ggt
Don’t you get it? Newt is so amazingly smarter than the rest of us. He knows what is best. We should just listen and do what he says. He will be the Benevolent Dictator that we always needed.
/gah
He’s a pompous asshole.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:31:22pm |
re: #154 EmmmieG
Yeah, I was just thinking that the entire point of the 14th Amendment was to put citizenship beyond the power of any legislature to define.
It was intended to do that for those born in the US. In US vs. Wong Kim Ark at the end of the 19th century, the Supreme Court ruled that the 14th Amendment meant that since Wong Kim Ark’s parents were in the US legally (and did not have diplomatic immunity), Wong was a citizen. But the court did not rule against the law that made Wong’s parent ineligible for naturalization. The Congress never lost its control over whether a foreign-born person may become a citizen. But the writers of the Amendment still assumed that said foreigner was a person.
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sagehen Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:31:23pm |
re: #154 EmmmieG
Yeah, I was just thinking that the entire point of the 14th Amendment was to put citizenship beyond the power of any legislature to define.
In addition to making clear the citizenship of emancipated slaves, it was also intended as an enticement to immigrants — that their children would unquestionably be American. (our population at the time was about 28 million, there was all that vast west and mid-west they wanted to fill with people…)
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:32:34pm |
re: #162 wozzablog
DF - I honestly hoped someone here would get that. Thanks.
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nines09 Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:32:46pm |
So it’s come to this. An embarrassing turd promotes a disgraced turd.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:32:57pm |
Apparently Willard being a shameless panderer and opportunistic flip-flopper is hereditary.
[Link: www.unionleader.com…]
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:33:19pm |
re: #28 freetoken
And twice forced the NRA to settle out of court over, in your words “alleged”, misbehavior of Herman Cain.
Dude, whatever one can say about needing to protect the presumed innocence of the accused, going to bat for such over Herman Cain just isn’t worth it.
It is if you’re a con with something to prove.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:33:59pm |
re: #163 ggt
Confederates don’t like the 14th Amendment.
And Newt is reading it wrong here. It was not intended to give Congress the power to define personhood. But, I must say that I am not a lawyer, so my words must be taken as an amateur opinion, though one that is decently read on the subject.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:34:07pm |
re: #169 nines09
So it’s come to this. An embarrassing turd promotes a disgraced turd.
Now let’s be fair. No matter who wins the GOP nomination, you’ll be getting some kind of turd.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:35:28pm |
re: #172 Dark_Falcon
And Newt is reading it wrong here. It was not intended to give Congress the power to define personhood. But, I must say that I am not a lawyer, so my words must be taken as an amateur opinion, though one that is decently read on the subject.
With his “interpretation” Congress could declare undocumented aliens to be non-persons -no?
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HappyWarrior Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:35:36pm |
re: #170 moderatelyradicalliberal
Apparently Willard being a shameless panderer and opportunistic flip-flopper is hereditary.
[Link: www.unionleader.com…]
His famous famously claimed to be brainwashed to support the Vietnam War. Ended up being Nixon’s HUD sec during Nixon’s first term.Got him laughed out of the 68 race. Other than that though, George Romney seems like he was a decent guy. Stood up for Civil Rights when his own church had some very backass backwards views on racial equality and he wasn’t rabidly anti union too even though he was an executive of an auto company and dealt with them.
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nines09 Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:35:45pm |
re: #173 moderatelyradicalliberal
It really is a turd fest. Not only off the rails and over the cliff, they have now also gone into the river.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:36:47pm |
re: #167 sagehen
In addition to making clear the citizenship of emancipated slaves, it was also intended as an enticement to immigrants — that their children would unquestionably be American. (our population at the time was about 28 million, there was all that vast west and mid-west they wanted to fill with people…)
I’m not sure about that last. It is something of a reach, IMO. But it is clear that the writers of the 14th Amendment wanted to avoid the creation of a permanent non-citizen underclass.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:36:58pm |
Now, here is something safe-for-work and interesting:
Israeli Public Supports Middle East Nuclear Free Zone
A new poll of Israeli Jews finds that 64% favor establishing a nuclear free zone in the Middle East, even when it was spelled out that this would mean that Israel as well as Iran would give up the option of having nuclear weapons.
Found it through a link with PBS Frontline Twitter Feed “Tehran Bureau.”
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HappyWarrior Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:37:58pm |
Anyhow, speaking of the court. I ordered Toobin’s The Nine. Should read that during my downtime this winter. Then I’ll pick up Woodward’s The Brethren. After foreign policy, court decisions are one of my favorite things about politics.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:38:30pm |
re: #174 ggt
With his “interpretation” Congress could declare undocumented aliens to be non-persons -no?
Unlikely. Expanding who is a person is one thing, contracting that same definition is far more problematic legally.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:38:48pm |
re: #177 Dark_Falcon
I’m not sure about that last. It is something of a reach, IMO. But it is clear that the writers of the 14th Amendment wanted to avoid the creation of a permanent non-citizen underclass.
Which we have now in the undocumented immigrants.
grrr
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HappyWarrior Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:39:07pm |
re: #178 ProLifeLiberal
Now, here is something safe-for-work and interesting:
Israeli Public Supports Middle East Nuclear Free Zone
Found it through a link with PBS Frontline Twitter Feed “Tehran Bureau.”
That sound you hear is Pam Geller downing a whole bottle of Aristocrap.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:39:51pm |
re: #176 nines09
It really is a turd fest. Not only off the rails and over the cliff, they have now also gone into the river.
Yep, it’s a turd soup. Although, I can’t wait for the Christian Right Movement to completely discredit itself by rallying around Newt and rejecting the one-time, long-time married Mitt Romney because he’s a Mormon in favor of the twice divorced, trice married, serial cheater and sick wife abandoning Newt Gingrich.
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sagehen Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:41:08pm |
re: #174 ggt
With his “interpretation” Congress could declare undocumented aliens to be non-persons -no?
No. Just non-citizens.
All the Amendments that aren’t about voting are for everybody physically in American territory, citizens and resident aliens and tourists and illegal aliens alike.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:41:23pm |
re: #182 HappyWarrior
That sound you hear is Pam Geller downing a whole bottle of Aristocrap.
armchair-nuke-quarterbacks of the USA will be a-sad
who will jerk off over the prospect of bombing iran if not us?!?!?!
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:42:54pm |
re: #185 WindUpBird
armchair-nuke-quarterbacks of the USA will be a-sad
who will jerk off over the prospect of bombing iran if not us?!?!?!
You never got the memo about Iran being Mountainous, did you?
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HappyWarrior Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:44:02pm |
re: #185 WindUpBird
armchair-nuke-quarterbacks of the USA will be a-sad
who will jerk off over the prospect of bombing iran if not us?!?!?!
They’ll find a new jerk off. Just like they jerk to the idea of Obama laughing evilly about how he’s a Commie Nazi Muslim Progressive who hates this country.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:44:26pm |
re: #183 moderatelyradicalliberal
Yep, it’s a turd soup. Although, I can’t wait for the Christian Right Movement to completely discredit itself by rallying around Newt and rejecting the one-time, long-time married Mitt Romney because he’s a Mormon in favor of the twice divorced, trice married, serial cheater and sick wife abandoning Newt Gingrich.
I don’t think the Christian Right Movement is going away, really, they seem to own the GOP base, probably for my lifetime
Thanks, Ronald Reagan! You’ve destroyed your party by pandering to the Amerikkkan Taliban
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:44:38pm |
re: #182 HappyWarrior
re: #185 WindUpBird
Now, we just need those slimes Netanyahu and Lieberman to be punted out of power.
Of course, that doesn’t go to the I-P conflict. Which I do not want brought up here. Not only am I relatively in the middle, but I have heavy connections through friends to one side. Which will make me way too emotionally involved.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:45:16pm |
How many more debates do we have to endure?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:45:50pm |
re: #187 HappyWarrior
They’ll find a new jerk off. Just like they jerk to the idea of Obama laughing evilly about how he’s a Commie Nazi Muslim Progressive who hates this country.
American military fetishism is a specific breed of creepy and awful to me
it’s a great distraction from the fact that we’re failing as a country
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:46:00pm |
re: #189 ProLifeLiberal
re: #185 WindUpBird
Now, we just need those slimes Netanyahu and Lieberman to be punted out of power.
Of course, that doesn’t go to the I-P conflict. Which I do not want brought up here. Not only am I relatively in the middle, but I have heavy connections through friends to one side. Which will make me way too emotionally involved.
Lieberman has more lives and a thicker skin than something with a very thick skin and a lot of lives.
I think he has finally decided to retire rather than take the hint of his own party a few years back.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:46:34pm |
re: #192 wozzablog
Lieberman has more lives and a thicker skin than something with a very thick skin and a lot of lives.
I think he has finally decided to retire rather than take the hint of his own party a few years back.
Avigdor not Joe.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:46:59pm |
re: #192 wozzablog
Lieberman has more lives and a thicker skin than something with a very thick skin and a lot of lives.
I think he has finally decided to retire rather than take the hint of his own party a few years back.
The senator from Aetna, yes
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:47:28pm |
re: #191 WindUpBird
American military fetishism is a specific breed of creepy and awful to me
it’s a great distraction from the fact that we’re failing as a country
HOW VERY DARE YOU!
a very select group foreigners use the health care above their own nations, this by extension still means USA USA USA
/intentional wingnut tangent
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Targetpractice Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:47:38pm |
re: #190 ggt
How many more debates do we have to endure?
As many as it takes to kill enough of our brain cells so that we’re in agreement with the TPers.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:48:48pm |
re: #193 HappyWarrior
Avigdor not Joe.
Ah, he hasn’t been particularly helpful in playing a straight bat though. Forgive my confusion.
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sagehen Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:48:57pm |
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:49:03pm |
re: #194 WindUpBird
Avigdor, not Joe, as HappyWarrior said.
Should be more specific. But I don’t like Joe either (for different reasons).
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:49:13pm |
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Jalal bin Smokin? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:49:29pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:49:37pm |
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:50:05pm |
re: #201 mracb
15 more!
John Huntsman is ducking the Trump clusterfuck, I think that means we can take a few off.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:50:29pm |
re: #199 ProLifeLiberal
Avigdor, not Joe, as HappyWarrior said.
Should be more specific. But I don’t like Joe either (for different reasons).
MORTAL KOMBAT.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:50:31pm |
re: #199 ProLifeLiberal
Avigdor, not Joe, as HappyWarrior said.
Should be more specific. But I don’t like Joe either (for different reasons).
Joe is a censorship queen, anti-art, and a corrupt tool of the corrupt health insurance industry
he’s a fucker, I hate him :D
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Interesting Times Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:50:33pm |
re: #191 WindUpBird
American military fetishism is a specific breed of creepy and awful to me
it’s a great distraction from the fact that we’re failing as a country
And the grand irony, as I pointed out downstairs, is the very dribbling idiots who engage in that fetishism are, when it comes to crucial national security issues, happy to toss the military they process to love so much right under a fuel-sucking buss.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:50:46pm |
The Trump Show is the one this Saturday right?
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:51:35pm |
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:51:50pm |
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:52:24pm |
re: #196 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
As many as it takes to kill enough of our brain cells so that we’re in agreement with the TPers.
Lot’s of money being made.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:52:38pm |
re: #209 wozzablog
27th Dec.
Screw that. I’m going to be reading new books, basking in the glory of being a graduate, ok ok I’ll be playing Metal Gear and watching really bad movies on demand with my brothers.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:53:39pm |
re: #211 HappyWarrior
Screw that. I’m going to be reading new books, basking in the glory of being a graduate, ok ok I’ll be playing Metal Gear and watching really bad movies on demand with my brothers.
You won’t be here, with us?
:(
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:54:18pm |
re: #211 HappyWarrior
Screw that. I’m going to be reading new books, basking in the glory of being a graduate, ok ok I’ll be playing Metal Gear and watching really bad movies on demand with my brothers.
I will be remorselessly drunk at a friends birthday thankfully. Or weeping into a new hand knit sweater after consuming a bottle of scotch.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:54:58pm |
So, someone had this comment on their Twitter Feed:
The nights when you’re afraid to be alone with your thoughts…
This is me everyday, because of the Social Blindness.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:55:15pm |
re: #212 ggt
You won’t be here, with us?
:(
Nice to know you’re wanted heh. I’ll be here throughout but really been meaning to spend some quality time with my brother since he’s hit 21.
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freetoken Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:57:58pm |
re: #163 ggt
Confederates don’t like the 14th Amendment.
Which is why they keep telling us this election is the most important one since 1860.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:58:55pm |
re: #214 ProLifeLiberal
So, someone had this comment on their Twitter Feed:
The nights when you’re afraid to be alone with your thoughts…
Rings familiar. You don’t follow me on there, do you? :p
The Hour Of The Wolf -
The hour of the wolf is the hour between night and dawn during which the wolf is said to lurk outside people’s doors. In Swedish and Finnish folk religion it is the hour when most people die.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:02:30pm |
re: #217 wozzablog
So, someone had this comment on their Twitter Feed:
Rings familiar. You don’t follow me on there, do you? :p
The Hour Of The Wolf -
I am in the hour of the wolf. Have been for a couple of months now. Permanently.
As long as Duran Duran does not get involved.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:04:05pm |
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sagehen Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:04:48pm |
“Have you ever heard of the hour of the wolf? My father told me about it. It’s the time between 3:00 and 4:00 in the morning. You can’t sleep, and all you can see is the troubles and the problems and the ways that your life should’ve gone but didn’t. All you can hear is the sound of your own heart. I’ve been living in the hour of the wolf for seven days, Lyta. Seven days. The wolf and I are now on a first-name basis. In times like this, my father used to take one large glass of vodka before bed. To keep the wolf away, he said. And then he would take three very small drinks of vodka, just in case she had cubs while she was waiting outside. It doesn’t work.”
—Susan Ivanova
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:05:03pm |
Wait, the GOP debate is on Saturday night? More than 1 has been right?
Really trying to get the youth vote, aren’t they?
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:05:07pm |
re: #218 EmmmieG
As long as Duran Duran does not get involved.
Great cover out there of that somewhere by Reel Big Fish.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:06:19pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:06:23pm |
re: #220 sagehen
—Susan Ivanova
Oh, three to four a.m.
I learned a long time ago to ignore anything I think at that hour, as well as anything I think or feel while on Excedrin.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:06:59pm |
3-4 am is usually when the dogs decide they need to go outside.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:07:45pm |
re: #225 ggt
3-4 am is usually when the dogs decide they need to go outside.
This is why I do not have a dog.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:08:30pm |
re: #226 EmmmieG
This is why I do not have a dog.
It’s OK, I’m at an age where I am up for the same reason. :)
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:12:58pm |
G’night all.
I’m gonna try and get some sleep.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:13:16pm |
re: #217 wozzablog
The tweet was from a person from school.
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freetoken Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:14:36pm |
re: #221 ggt
The last really big debate, by big meaning mainstream media from several organizations, is the one coming up and to which the candidates will show. Then after that is the Fox debate. The Des Moines Register debate, which in 2008 had some of the more contentious questions, has been cancelled and folded into the one coming up at the end of the week.
Then after Christmas is when Trump is planning on having his show - we’ll see if anyone shows up.
Then in the first week of Jan will be the IA caucuses. After that the show moves to NH, where there will be 2 or 3 back to back debates, then the NH primary.
And so on.
It’s a roadshow, like the circuses of old. Complete with clowns, acrobats, and a few elephants.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:18:20pm |
re: #230 freetoken
The last really big debate, by big meaning mainstream media from several organizations, is the one coming up and to which the candidates will show. Then after that is the Fox debate. The Des Moines Register debate, which in 2008 had some of the more contentious questions, has been cancelled and folded into the one coming up at the end of the week.
Then after Christmas is when Trump is planning on having his show - we’ll see if anyone shows up.
Then in the first week of Jan will be the IA caucuses. After that the show moves to NH, where there will be 2 or 3 back to back debates, then the NH primary.
And so on.
It’s a roadshow, like the circuses of old. Complete with clowns, acrobats, and a few elephants.
Thank you for the synopsis. You are so good at that.
I specifically appreciate your UN/Climate Change reports from the other day.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:18:57pm |
re: #228 wozzablog
G’night all.
I’m gonna try and get some sleep.
Me too! I have a full day tomorrow.
Have a great morning/evening all!
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freetoken Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:21:32pm |
re: #231 ggt
I specifically appreciate your UN/Climate Change reports from the other day.
I could save myself a lot of work and simply cut and paste “… and it was a big clusterfuck.” … and be done with it. But then, where would the fun be in that?
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Four More Tears Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:24:37pm |
re: #230 freetoken
After Iowa, NH, and SC, Survivor GOP will have far fewer contestants I think.
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Four More Tears Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:25:48pm |
Skyrim Cybertron Moon mod: Image: 2701-1-1323063970.jpg
Just thought that was cute.
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:26:20pm |
re: #234 JasonA
After Iowa, NH, and SC, Survivor GOP will have far fewer contestants I think.
Don’t forget we might see them again. There is still a VP slot out there waiting.
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boxhead Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:32:00pm |
re: #236 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Don’t forget we might see them again. There is still a VP slot out there waiting.
nnnnnoooooooooooooooo!
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Four More Tears Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:41:14pm |
re: #236 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Don’t forget we might see them again. There is still a VP slot out there waiting.
I will do it. I will take the ring into Mordor.
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freetoken Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:48:33pm |
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:50:36pm |
re: #238 JasonA
I will do it. I will take the ring into Mordor.
One does not simply walk into Mordor.
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Four More Tears Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:51:02pm |
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:53:13pm |
re: #242 JasonA
I find it amusing that all you need to steal shit isn’t a high sneak skill, but some baskets.
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Four More Tears Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:54:11pm |
re: #241 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
One does not simply walk into Mordor.
There is derp there that does not sleep.
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:54:21pm |
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:56:19pm |
Also, the giant launching gag. Shown here with a Sabre-Toothed Cat meeting a giant.
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Four More Tears Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:57:37pm |
re: #243 ProLifeLiberal
I find it amusing that all you need to steal shit isn’t a high sneak skill, but some baskets.
I haven’t actually tried that. Though I will say that you can do a ridiculous amount of damage as an assassin with just a dagger and Dark Brotherhood gauntlets. That’s 30x damage with a backstab.
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Amory Blaine Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:59:18pm |
My dad cheated on all his wives (3). I consider it a huge character flaw.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:59:50pm |
Ron Paul camp: Donald Trump debate ‘beneath the office of the Presidency’
Ron Paul’s campaign announced Saturday that Paul won’t participate in the planned NewsMax debate moderated by Donald Trump, and campaign chairman Jesse Benton pulled no punches in explaining the decision:
“The selection of a reality television personality to host a presidential debate that voters nationwide will be watching is beneath the office of the Presidency and flies in the face of that office’s history and dignity. Mr. Trump’s participation as moderator will distract from questions and answers concerning important issues such as the national economy, crushing federal government debt, the role of the federal government, foreign policy, and the like. To be sure, Mr. Trump’s participation will contribute to an unwanted circus-like atmosphere.
“Mr. Trump’s selection is also wildly inappropriate because of his record of toying with the serious decision of whether to compete for our nation’s highest office, a decision he appeared to make frivolously. The short-lived elevation of Mr. Trump’s stature as a candidate put him on the radar of many organizations and we recall that last spring he was invited to keynote the Republican Party of Iowa’s annual Lincoln Day Dinner, yet at the last minute he left RPI holding the bag by canceling. In turn, RPI canceled its biggest fundraising gala of the year and suffered embarrassment and in addition RPI was required to engage in refunding measures. Our candidate will not even consider participating in the late-December debate until Mr. Trump publicly apologizes to Iowa party leaders and rectifies in full the situation.
“Therefore our candidate Ron Paul, the champion of the Constitution, has advised he will not attend.”
The Trump debate invitation looks like a kind of dignity test for the 2012 presidential field; so far Paul and Jon Huntsman are the only two candidates to state that they will not attend.
[Link: www.politico.com…]
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sun, Dec 4, 2011 11:00:56pm |
Trump blasts Paul for smacking him in forum-skip
Donald Trump apparently didn’t take kindly to Ron Paul’s decision to skip the NewsMax-hosted forum moderated by the developer and reality TV star, saying it created a circus-like atmosphere around the presidential race.
“As I said in the past and will reiterate again, Ron Paul has a zero chance of winning either the nomination or the presidency,” Trump said in a statement in response to Paul, adding, “my poll numbers were substantially higher than any of his poll numbers, at any time.”
“Few people take Ron Paul seriously and many of his views and presentation make him a clown-like candidate,” he said. “I am glad he and Jon Huntsman, who has inconsequential poll numbers or a chance of winning, will not be attending the debate and wasting the time of the viewers who are trying very hard to make a very important decision.”
Trump referred to his book that’s coming out and his claim he is worth more than $7 billion, and asked why he is “not the right person to lead this country out of economic chaos or at least to moderate a debate. I would like to see how Ron Paul would fair in the world of big business.”
Paul was the first candidate competing in Iowa to reject the invitation for the Dec. 27 event. His move may give cover to other candidates to do the same - although Trump’s comments are a reminder of the potential problem with skipping it.
[Link: www.politico.com…]
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sun, Dec 4, 2011 11:01:53pm |
Ron Paul pans Donald Trump as false GOP deity
Fresh off snubbing Donald Trump by refusing to participate in a debate he’s moderating, Ron Paul blasts his fellow GOP presidential candidates for paying the billionaire businessman so much credence.
“I don’t quite understand the marching to his office,” Paul said on CNN’s State of the Union this morning, referring to the parade of presidential candidates who’ve met with Trump in recent months. “I didn’t know he had the ability to lay on hands and anoint people.”
Paul rejected the debate invitation by deeming Trump beneath the presidency, while Trump released a statement saying Paul is “clown-like” and “willing to lie” and “either very jealous of Mr. Trump, stupid, or a combination of both.” The debate is scheduled for Dec. 27 in Des Moines, Iowa.
Host Candy Crowley asked Paul why his relationship with Trump turned so rocky, so quickly.
“He probably doesn’t like my position on the federal reserve,” Paul said. “It may be, deep down, philosophic … and his personality that doesn’t like to be challenged.”
Earlier this year, Trump himself had an extended dalliance with a Republican presidential run, ultimately deciding against entering the race.
[Link: www.politico.com…]
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Four More Tears Sun, Dec 4, 2011 11:02:04pm |
re: #249 000G
“Therefore our candidate Ron Paul, the champion of the Constitution, has advised he will not attend.”
Who the hell refers to themselves as “Champion of the Constitution?”
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Amory Blaine Sun, Dec 4, 2011 11:03:34pm |
re: #253 JasonA
If he holds the title where’s the belt?
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sun, Dec 4, 2011 11:03:48pm |
re: #253 JasonA
That’s pretty much his trademarked nickname by now: [Link: www.google.com…]
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freetoken Sun, Dec 4, 2011 11:25:34pm |
Well, down in Durban the second week is getting underway. Pressers have started (first governmental presser will be by the Africa Group). The NGOs are at it too - Greenpeace is going to reveal their #dirtydozen in about 30 minutes, supposedly a list (according to them) of the nations which are holding up progress. Besides the obvious (US, Canada, NZ) they might start to finger India and Brazil… it’ll be interesting to watch if that happens.
The main meetings will start shortly too… and the official statements (by ministers and heads of delegations) will be spaced over several days. Only a few heads of state plan on showing up though.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 4, 2011 11:26:37pm |
re: #235 JasonA
Skyrim Cybertron Moon mod: Image: 2701-1-1323063970.jpg
Just thought that was cute.
can you catch the space bridge to go chew out Shockwave? :D
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sagehen Sun, Dec 4, 2011 11:36:56pm |
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 11:44:39pm |
re: #259 sagehen
So am I the only one who fantasizes about it being like The Hunger Games?
You mean Battle Royale marketed for America?
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Targetpractice Sun, Dec 4, 2011 11:45:44pm |
re: #261 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
You mean Battle Royale marketed for America?
What, if they have an original thought, their explosive collars go off?
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Kragar Sun, Dec 4, 2011 11:47:49pm |
re: #262 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
What, if they have an original thought, their explosive collars go off?
It would explain a lot.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 12:06:42am |
One little thing of interest from the African Group presser - the spokesman actually called out Japan for the latter’s bailing on a second commitment period to the Kyoto Protocol and spoke of Japan “dishonoring” their promises (after a mini lecture on Japan being a culture of honor) - ouch. Unusual to see such something like this between African nations and Japan, given the commercial relationships. Perhaps a diplomatic faux pas from the African Group rep.
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Stanghazi Mon, Dec 5, 2011 12:19:09am |
re: #264 freetoken
One little thing of interest from the African Group presser - the spokesman actually called out Japan for the latter’s bailing on a second commitment period to the Kyoto Protocol and spoke of Japan “dishonoring” their promises (after a mini lecture on Japan being a culture of honor) - ouch. Unusual to see such something like this between African nations and Japan, given the commercial relationships. Perhaps a diplomatic faux pas from the African Group rep.
Truth comes out?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 12:34:32am |
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sagehen Mon, Dec 5, 2011 12:38:22am |
I have a new favorite Michelle dress:
[Link: mrs-o.com…]
I also like the earrings, and that guy she’s holding hands with looks pretty snazzy too.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 12:39:10am |
re: #265 Stanley Sea
Truth comes out?
More likely a hail-Mary pass. I suspect the Africa Group rep is just trying to stir the waters in order to get some sort of budge on the part of Japan to commit, but from IMO it’s not a winning strategy.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Dec 5, 2011 12:40:03am |
re: #262 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
What, if they have an original thought, their explosive collars go off?
is that a running man reference? :D
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Kragar Mon, Dec 5, 2011 12:46:00am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 12:46:20am |
re: #269 WindUpBird
You haven’t seen Battle Royale?
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Kragar Mon, Dec 5, 2011 12:49:00am |
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 12:51:54am |
Hehe… Saudi complaining about lack of progress and that the putting off of issues is unacceptable… but then turn around and complain there is not enough attention being paid to “economic consequences”.
By that they mean the loss of income due to constraining the consumption of oil. Yes, Saudi wants paid if any future taxes or tariffs are added to oil, which would be done in order of course to reduce consumption.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Dec 5, 2011 12:56:08am |
Definitely not safe for work (gay gladiators) but totally hilarious
yeah, you wouldn’t have seen this from the 2004 LGF comments *dances*
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Dec 5, 2011 12:57:43am |
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 1:02:55am |
The Columbia rep is speaking… one thing I note is that these Latin American countries seem to have packed lots of hot babes in their delegations, especially the younger support staff.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Dec 5, 2011 1:37:31am |
re: #273 freetoken
Monarchs/dictators like the house of Saud and Chavez base their power on their ability to bribe their populations with the money they earn selling oil to the West.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:11:27am |
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:15:36am |
re: #279 freetoken
Country Music for Young people is not a concept that caught on here in Europe.
America had bands like Commander Cody, the new Riders, the Byrds and countrified Grateful Dead to ease us into the concept, and in the 90’s people like Garth Brooks and Shania Twain became full-on crossover sensations.
But here, country music is still just for middle-aged truck drivers and would-be line-dancers. Kinda sad…
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:20:36am |
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researchok Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:28:41am |
re: #282 ggt
Seems to me there is a lot of deliberate obfuscation and misinformation under the guise of ‘tech/legal talk’.
This has been going on for as long time under all various administrations- right under the nose of supposed Congressional oversight and ‘ethical and moral’ leadership.
I was no fan of OWS but I didn’t criticize them. They had the right idea underneath it all and beyond the idiotic rhetoric. For that, they are to be commended.
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researchok Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:30:17am |
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engineer cat Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:30:22am |
Atlanta’s Fox 5 reports that Herman Cain is planning to endorse Newt Gingrich
lemmings. republicans have become lemmings
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:31:44am |
I see Ron Paul and Donald Trump are slap-fighting
they deserve each other :D
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engineer cat Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:33:58am |
i think that with enough time, funding, and serious research, it might be possible to come up with a presidential nominee worse than gingrich
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:34:05am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:35:00am |
re: #287 engineer dog
i think that with enough time, funding, and serious research, it might be possible to come up with a presidential nominee worse than gingrich
Maybe a member of “Twiztid” will throw his hat into the ring
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researchok Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:35:12am |
re: #288 freetoken
Still stuck, even after reloading the page.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:35:18am |
re: #281 ralphieboy
Normally I don’t listen to C&W, except if it is old.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:37:50am |
The Chinese presser is in Chinese:
[Link: unfccc4.meta-fusion.com…]
But, there is no English translator for the online video!
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researchok Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:39:01am |
re: #292 freetoken
Won’t play for me on that page as well.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:39:02am |
re: #291 freetoken
Normally I don’t listen to C&W, except if it is old.
I can highly recommend a show on BBC Radio Scotland “The Brand-New Opry” that features decent modern and classic country music, not the commercial crap that comprises most of the modern Country Top 40.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:41:07am |
10 minutes in the translator finally plugs in …
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:43:28am |
re: #294 researchok
Well, don’t know what to say. That’s just a link to an mp3. Either your browser or ISP must not like that address.
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researchok Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:44:30am |
re: #297 freetoken
I hear that.
Bummer- your music posts have become a part of my AM routine.
I’ll keep trying. Maybe I ought to reboot
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:45:38am |
re: #283 researchok
Seems to me there is a lot of deliberate obfuscation and misinformation under the guise of ‘tech/legal talk’.
This has been going on for as long time under all various administrations- right under the nose of supposed Congressional oversight and ‘ethical and moral’ leadership.I was no fan of OWS but I didn’t criticize them. They had the right idea underneath it all and beyond the idiotic rhetoric. For that, they are to be commended.
There is definitely a lot of fancy talk where plain talk will do. I think there a bunch of monkeys trying to look like they might know how to type. I’m truly not sure they know what they are doing.
I posted a response on the Post.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:46:45am |
re: #287 engineer dog
i think that with enough time, funding, and serious research, it might be possible to come up with a presidential nominee worse than gingrich
But is it possible to find one more arrogant?
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engineer cat Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:48:20am |
for country music, i like old timey, bluegrass, country swing, patsy kline, dolly parton, and D-i-v-o-r-c-e
when they start in on the dog, the truck, n how their girlfriend just left ‘em i turn it off
what passes for c&w on tv these days sounds to me like light rock with a country beat in 2/4
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:49:44am |
re: #301 engineer dog
for country music, i like old timey, bluegrass, country swing, patsy kline, dolly parton, and D-i-v-o-r-c-e
when they start in on the dog, the truck, n how their girlfriend just left ‘em i turn it off
what passes for c&w on tv these days sounds to me like light rock with a country beat in 2/4
I got tears in my ears …
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engineer cat Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:50:31am |
re: #300 ggt
But is it possible to find one more arrogant?
it is not possible to violate the laws of physics!
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:50:41am |
re: #285 engineer dog
Atlanta’s Fox 5 reports that Herman Cain is planning to endorse Newt Gingrich
lemmings. republicans have become lemmings
following their myths over the cliff?
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:51:04am |
re: #303 engineer dog
it is not possible to violate the laws of physics!
laws were made to be broken -no?
:)
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:51:46am |
re: #298 researchok
It’s from this blog:
[Link: blog.eventmagic.com…]
Lots of music buried in the various posts. Pretty snarky music too. My original link was intended as sarcasm.
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engineer cat Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:52:20am |
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researchok Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:53:18am |
re: #297 freetoken
Working now, after reboot.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:53:18am |
re: #301 engineer dog
for country music, i like old timey, bluegrass, country swing, patsy kline, dolly parton, and D-i-v-o-r-c-e
when they start in on the dog, the truck, n how their girlfriend just left ‘em i turn it off
what passes for c&w on tv these days sounds to me like light rock with a country beat in 2/4
this, the stuff on CMT is totally just highly produced corporate rock aimed at suburban cowboys :D
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researchok Mon, Dec 5, 2011 2:56:45am |
re: #306 freetoken
No dogs, trains, prison gates, rooming houses, or ruby red lipstick.
Well, at least there was booze.
/
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:00:25am |
If you all want some actually good music, here’s one of the most mind engaging pieces while still beautiful, used in Kubrick’s classic:
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researchok Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:02:15am |
re: #311 freetoken
Oh yeah, now you’re talking…
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boxhead Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:04:22am |
re: #311 freetoken
If you all want some actually good music, here’s one of the most mind engaging pieces while still beautiful, used in Kubrick’s classic:
[Video]
nice….
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:04:40am |
re: #310 researchok
No dogs, trains, prison gates, rooming houses, or ruby red lipstick.
Well, at least there was booze.
/
I was drunk the day my mother got out of prison…
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:05:44am |
Isn’t there one about chewing gum on the bedpost?
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researchok Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:07:17am |
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Obdicut Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:07:21am |
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:08:09am |
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Obdicut Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:14:33am |
And a freaking awesome Waits cover from Neko Case.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:17:18am |
re: #318 ggt
He cheated on me, so I shot his truck …
He asked for forgiveness, so I took him back . .
My stupid, loving that man, heart.
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researchok Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:21:58am |
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:25:12am |
re: #320 ggt
He asked for forgiveness, so I took him back . .
My stupid, loving that man, heart.
One of the great themes of country music is sin and salvation, heartbreak and forgiveness…just like in politics.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:28:23am |
Found my first possibly damning problem in using Chrome: bookmarks. It just seems to choke on all the bookmarks I have (thousands) and that when trying to add new ones they just go into limbo somewhere.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:31:59am |
re: #324 freetoken
I have trouble with Chrome in that it publishes a log of all the sites you have been in chronological order, the old google just kept tabs on your favorite sites by volume of traffic ( I assume)
Any way to set that in chrome?
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:33:38am |
re: #325 ralphieboy
Don’t know.
Chrome is working much better for me than Safari, performance wise (much fewer beach balls.) But I’m getting frustrated with the limited bookmark functionality - for example it won’t let me duplicate bookmarks.
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RogueOne Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:38:09am |
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:42:22am |
re: #322 ralphieboy
One of the great themes of country music is sin and salvation, heartbreak and forgiveness…just like in politics.
humans being humans
and
singing songs about it.
| 329 |
FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:50:17am |
I’m going to try to go back to sleep.
Have a great morning all!
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:55:57am |
A YouTube user in east Moscow illustrated how the pens at booths in school #1114 were filled with invisible ink. In the Siberian city of Novokuznetsk, a user showed how ballot boxes had arrived at a polling site one-third filled with votes. A Moscow user filmed an election official at polling station #2501 filling out ballots as he sat at his desk. Several users filmed buses, nicknamed “carousels”, which appeared to be carrying the same people to various stations so they could vote over and over again.
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk…]
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:59:01am |
Mexican Army Dismantles Gang’s Antennas, Radios
The Defense Department said soldiers confiscated 167 antennas and 166 power supplies that gang members used to communicate among themselves and to monitor military movements.
The operation also netted more than 1,400 radios and 2,600 cellphones in the border states of Tamaulipas, Nuevo Leon and Coahuila and in the state of San Luis Potosi, a statement said.
[Link: www.npr.org…]
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Obdicut Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:59:29am |
re: #330 000G
I.e. what voter fraud actually looks like, GOP.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:01:08am |
Well, I’m on the latest Firefox now. It works better than Safari, not as fast as Chrome.
But for me, on a Mac, Firefox rendering is just so ugly. For example the Pages menus at the top of the LGF front pages - looks 10 years out of date.
| 335 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:08:55am |
re: #333 Obdicut
I must be a idealistic twit. I can’t imagine committing voter fraud. Such a sacred right; and to cheat would be to wrest that sacred right from someone else.
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Obdicut Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:10:24am |
re: #335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yeah, participating it is basically saying “Yes, my government is a fucking fraud, and I help to make it that way.”
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:12:18am |
Kinda makes one wonder what the purpose of the fraud is, in the case of Russia, no? Especially since it’s so outright in the open. Why not go all the way and suspend elections? Why bother with the sham?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:14:21am |
re: #336 Obdicut
Yeah, participating it is basically saying “Yes, my government is a fucking fraud, and I help to make it that way.”
My uncle (85, grew up in WV) tells stories of wagons going through the “hollers” with jugs of liquor and carrying folks to different polling stations.
Folks getting on each (D) and (R) wagon and going for a ride and a bribe.
Folks voting (R) because the (R) wagon got there first and the (D) wagon getting there too late.
| 339 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:20:44am |
re: #337 000G
And become official pariahs?
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Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:24:47am |
re: #105 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I finally picked up Civ4 this weekend on special.
I used LGF like methadone, to break a Civ4 habit.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:25:49am |
re: #339 Sergey Romanov
I guess it will stop mattering when the economic situation in most of the OSCE members has become dire enough for them to stop the nicey-nice of parliamentary democracy.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:37:38am |
Friend’s brother was involved in a farming accident yesterday. Was buried up to his shoulders in corn. Totally messed up his circulatory system; all that pressure.
Honestly? I didn’t know that could hurt you. Obviously, it can.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:41:38am |
re: #341 000G
Whatever else you can say about TP or OWS, they show that people are ready to get out and get involved in the democratic process at a basic, personal level.
That tradition is almoset completely absent in Russia and ex-Soviet nations.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:42:02am |
Photo of a copy of protocol in one of polling stations (no. 1701) on FB page of one of monitors:
[Link: www.facebook.com…]
271 votes for UR, 167 votes for Yabloko.
The results on the site of the Central Election Commission: 662 votes for UR, 67 for Yabloko.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:44:38am |
re: #342 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Friend’s brother was involved in a farming accident yesterday. Was buried up to his shoulders in corn. Totally messed up his circulatory system; all that pressure.
Honestly? I didn’t know that could hurt you. Obviously, it can.
Every time you exhale loose corn, sand, peanuts etc. settle into the space you leave outside your abdomen. In a short time, you can’t get it back.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:45:12am |
I was thinking that, since I get a week off this month (no pay! But hey, it’s a week off!) that Zedushka and I would drive down to Alabama to visit the grandkid. (Because we’ve been to Toronto and NY, Israel is too far, and tickets to Miami are outrageous)
Anyway, we would not drive all in one shot, but stay overnight at some B&B somewhere, maybe Cincinnati or Louisville. It has to have historic value. Any suggestions?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:47:39am |
(preliminary) Top 5 regions which voted for UR: Chechnya (99.5%), Dagestan (91.9%), Mordovia (91.6%), Ingushetiya (91%), Karachayevo-Cherkesiya (89.8%).
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:48:41am |
re: #347 Sergey Romanov
(preliminary) Top 5 regions which voted for UR: Chechnya (99.5%), Dagestan (91.9%), Mordovia (91.6%), Ingushetiya (91%), Karachayevo-Cherkesiya (89.8%).
and the remaining 0.5% of Chechnyans who voted against UR will be taken out and shot…
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:50:22am |
re: #348 ralphieboy
and the remaining 0.5% of Chechnyans who voted against UR will be taken out and shot…
They don’t believe in abortion. //
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Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:52:43am |
re: #346 Alouette
I was thinking that, since I get a week off this month (no pay! But hey, it’s a week off!) that Zedushka and I would drive down to Alabama to visit the grandkid. (Because we’ve been to Toronto and NY, Israel is too far, and tickets to Miami are outrageous)
Anyway, we would not drive all in one shot, but stay overnight at some B&B somewhere, maybe Cincinnati or Louisville. It has to have historic value. Any suggestions?
For something completely different—The Trappist monastery that housed Thomas Merton. They recommend a non-associated nearby guest house. Sell good wine.
[Link: www.monks.org…]
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The Force Ghost of a Flea Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:56:26am |
re: #346 Alouette
I was thinking that, since I get a week off this month (no pay! But hey, it’s a week off!) that Zedushka and I would drive down to Alabama to visit the grandkid. (Because we’ve been to Toronto and NY, Israel is too far, and tickets to Miami are outrageous)
Anyway, we would not drive all in one shot, but stay overnight at some B&B somewhere, maybe Cincinnati or Louisville. It has to have historic value. Any suggestions?
[Link: louisvillebedandbreakfast.org…]
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The Force Ghost of a Flea Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:58:10am |
re: #350 Decatur Deb
For something completely different—The Trappist monastery that housed Thomas Merton. They recommend a non-associated nearby guest house. Sell good wine.
[Link: www.monks.org…]
Nice. When I see Trappist my first question is, “…but do they brew beer?”
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Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 5, 2011 4:58:17am |
re: #350 Decatur Deb
For something completely different—The Trappist monastery that housed Thomas Merton. They recommend a non-associated nearby guest house. Sell good wine.
[Link: www.monks.org…]
Oops. The guest house is associated with the monastery. (These are in Bardstown. Abraham Lincoln’s birthplace is in nearby Hodgenville.)
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Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:00:58am |
re: #352 The Ghost of a Flea
Nice. When I see Trappist my first question is, “…but do they brew beer?”
Wine and cheese for sure, don’t know about the beer. My highschool/college seminary still had the copper kettles from its brewery, but they stopped at Prohibition. Each student was rationed one pint per day before that.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:05:27am |
re: #350 Decatur Deb
For something completely different—The Trappist monastery that housed Thomas Merton. They recommend a non-associated nearby guest house. Sell good wine.
[Link: www.monks.org…]
I don’t think Zedushka will go for that.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:06:15am |
re: #355 Alouette
I don’t think Zedushka will go for that.
Sell it as ‘intelligence preparation of the battlefield’.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:06:42am |
re: #346 Alouette
Historic Cincinnati. Just doesn’t roll off the tongue.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:07:37am |
re: #357 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Historic Cincinnati. Just doesn’t roll off the tongue.
The Jerry Springer Memorial Whorehouse is just across the river in Covington.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:09:29am |
re: #357 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Historic Cincinnati. Just doesn’t roll off the tongue.
Cincinnati has its historic sites, just like Detroit!
Actually I was thinking of stopping some small little town, but they’d probably just have Motel 6’s and stuff.
I did go to the Louisville B&B page last night, they have some interesting houses there.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:11:26am |
re: #359 Alouette
Cincinnati has its historic sites, just like Detroit!
Actually I was thinking of stopping some small little town, but they’d probably just have Motel 6’s and stuff.
I did go to the Louisville B&B page last night, they have some interesting houses there.
Lexington KY is on your way. It is the center for beautiful horse farms and UK, but the weather will be a little harsh. Bourbon was invented in nearby Georgetown.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:11:49am |
re: #359 Alouette
Kentucky B&B just sounds better to me.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:12:05am |
re: #354 Decatur Deb
Wine and cheese for sure, don’t know about the beer. My highschool/college seminary still had the copper kettles from its brewery, but they stopped at Prohibition. Each student was rationed one pint per day before that.
When my son bought his house in Toronto, the previous owner showed him the cellar and the big casks where he made his own wine from the grapes that he grew in the backyard. My son has been living there for 5 years, I think his first batch of wine will be ready to taste next year.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:13:49am |
Morning Lizardim. I feel privileged - I finally got to sit in on a late night troll smackdown. It felt good and the gamey troll buttocks were perfectly roasted, if I do say so myself. How are things out there in the land of the odd?
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Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:16:15am |
re: #362 Alouette
When my son bought his house in Toronto, the previous owner showed him the cellar and the big casks where he made his own wine from the grapes that he grew in the backyard. My son has been living there for 5 years, I think his first batch of wine will be ready to taste next year.
Pretty much failed at my home winemaking efforts. Some of us made wine in the mens room locker area at Louisville’s General Electric Co assembly line, but I don’t think that rates a B&B.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:18:19am |
re: #364 Decatur Deb
Pretty much failed at my home winemaking efforts. Some of us made wine in the mens room locker area at Louisville’s General Electric Co assembly line, but I don’t think that rates a B&B.
Because of this news item from April, 1852 I could justify the Jewish-history Foundation paying for the visit. Valuable research!
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Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:24:27am |
re: #365 Alouette
Because of this news item from April, 1852 I could justify the Jewish-history Foundation paying for the visit. Valuable research!
Neat. Jewish Hospital is the premier med facility in Louisville, loosely associated with UofL. (In the times of your news item a stop in Louisville was necessary because the Ohio navigation was interrupted by a low falls, requiring transfer or portage.)
[Link: www.fallsoftheohio.org…]
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:30:08am |
re: #366 Decatur Deb
Neat. Jewish Hospital is the premier med facility in Louisville, loosely associated with UofL. (In the times of your news item a stop in Louisville was necessary because the Ohio navigation was interrupted by a low falls, requiring transfer or portage.)
The prediction made in that article about population growth is kind of interesting, although immigration didn’t follow the pattern that the writer predicted. It would be kind of cool to follow that writer’s path, although we don’t have that much time, but it is necessary if we are going to claim a tax credit for the trip.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:33:24am |
re: #367 Alouette
The prediction made in that article about population growth is kind of interesting, although immigration didn’t follow the pattern that the writer predicted. It would be kind of cool to follow that writer’s path, although we don’t have that much time, but it is necessary if we are going to claim a tax credit for the trip.
Tracing Jewish cemeteries down the Ohio from Pittsburgh to Cairo would be a neat project, but definitely for warm weather.
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kirkspencer Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:46:38am |
Pardon the digression. Several threads ago, Iran’s claim it had taken over and downed a US drone — an RQ-170 drone (looks like a B2) — was brought up and largely ridiculed. I, for one, said it was 99+% unlikely.
ISAF says Iran downed a drone, but will not say how and will not say what sort of drone. article link
Today I will be looking up recipes for crow, just in case the rest of the story corroborates Iran’s claims.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:49:02am |
re: #369 kirkspencer
Pardon the digression. Several threads ago, Iran’s claim it had taken over and downed a US drone — an RQ-170 drone (looks like a B2) — was brought up and largely ridiculed. I, for one, said it was 99+% unlikely.
ISAF says Iran downed a drone, but will not say how and will not say what sort of drone. article link
Today I will be looking up recipes for crow, just in case the rest of the story corroborates Iran’s claims.
Yeah, I saw that story in a lot of news feeds, but they all ran back to Iranian state sources, toward whom I seem to harbor an unnatural distrust. I guess I should just be like the rest of the world and take the Iranians’ word at face value./
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Eventual Carrion Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:53:37am |
re: #291 freetoken
Normally I don’t listen to C&W, except if it is old.
Same here. New stuff is too “poppy”. I liked the cry-in-your-beer, Woman left me, type twangy music. I never was a huge CW fan, but I cannot listen to the newer stuff.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 5, 2011 5:56:46am |
re: #369 kirkspencer
Pardon the digression. Several threads ago, Iran’s claim it had taken over and downed a US drone — an RQ-170 drone (looks like a B2) — was brought up and largely ridiculed. I, for one, said it was 99+% unlikely.
ISAF says Iran downed a drone, but will not say how and will not say what sort of drone. article link
Today I will be looking up recipes for crow, just in case the rest of the story corroborates Iran’s claims.
Hold your fork, it could be as simple as a bird blowing a circuit board and wandering off until it ran out of fuel.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:12:52am |
re: #369 kirkspencer
Good for you. It’s one thing not to take a propaganda arm’s claims at face value. It’s another to simply say it’s not true (as many did). It’s not necessarily a lie just because it’s PressTV.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:16:19am |
re: #374 Sergey Romanov
Good for you. It’s one thing not to take a propaganda arm’s claims at face value. It’s another to simply say it’s not true (as many did). It’s not necessarily a lie just because it’s PressTV.
But those barbarians couldn’t possibly have shot down a drone, let alone one that wasn’t even there in the first place! WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?!?!?
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:20:48am |
If we had in fact sent a drone over their territory, they would have had every right to shoot it down. I personally won’t believe any of it until they show photos of the pilot…
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:21:45am |
A wily plan: the US pretends it loses control of its drone; it crashes somewhere in Iran; Iran is quick to claim victory over drone; takes it to the secret military labs; meanwhile the drone’s super-duper systems really work and send out signals; and soon the US knows all the interesting Iranian coordinates for military targeting.
///
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:22:31am |
re: #377 Sergey Romanov
IT’S A VAST MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL CONSPIRACY!!!
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:31:53am |
re: #359 Alouette
Cincinnati has its historic sites, just like Detroit!
Actually I was thinking of stopping some small little town, but they’d probably just have Motel 6’s and stuff.
I did go to the Louisville B&B page last night, they have some interesting houses there.
Just from a travel point of view you’d probably want to favor stopping in Kentucky simply to avoid having to deal with crossing the Ohio the next morning in commuter traffic.
And there’s lots of options between Lexington and Louisville. Though I did the Motel 6-ish option when I drove from Philadelphia to St Louis a few years back and did Philly-Louisville as a single leg of the drive. (That allowed me to leisurely visit Ft Knox and some other points going west from there.)
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:34:17am |
re: #369 kirkspencer
Pardon the digression. Several threads ago, Iran’s claim it had taken over and downed a US drone — an RQ-170 drone (looks like a B2) — was brought up and largely ridiculed. I, for one, said it was 99+% unlikely.
ISAF says Iran downed a drone, but will not say how and will not say what sort of drone. article link
Today I will be looking up recipes for crow, just in case the rest of the story corroborates Iran’s claims.
Given that it’s a single-engine aircraft simple mechanical failure is always a decent probability.
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:35:27am |
re: #377 Sergey Romanov
A wily plan: the US pretends it loses control of its drone; it crashes somewhere in Iran; Iran is quick to claim victory over drone; takes it to the secret military labs; meanwhile the drone’s super-duper systems really work and send out signals; and soon the US knows all the interesting Iranian coordinates for military targeting.
///
Or the US-version of a really nasty computer virus is lurking in its chips.
//
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:45:16am |
re: #345 Decatur Deb
Every time you exhale loose corn, sand, peanuts etc. settle into the space you leave outside your abdomen. In a short time, you can’t get it back.
like quick-sand?
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:46:36am |
re: #346 Alouette
I was thinking that, since I get a week off this month (no pay! But hey, it’s a week off!) that Zedushka and I would drive down to Alabama to visit the grandkid. (Because we’ve been to Toronto and NY, Israel is too far, and tickets to Miami are outrageous)
Anyway, we would not drive all in one shot, but stay overnight at some B&B somewhere, maybe Cincinnati or Louisville. It has to have historic value. Any suggestions?
Cincinnati —get a hotel outside of the City tho. UP by the amusment park. Driving anywhere in Cinci only takes about 20 minutes, so don’t let distances fool you.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:46:43am |
Meanwhile, down in Durban:
Police seize protesters at Durban conference
Police detained six Greenpeace activists today as they hung a banner from a Durban hotel urging negotiators at the UN climate change conference to “listen to the people, not the polluters.”
No report of pepper spray though… maybe all of it has been shipped to the US?
However…
It featured life-size puppets representing notorious corporations which activists said were “pulling the strings of key world leaders” - in particular European Commission president Jose Barroso, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the US Congress.
PUPPETS!!
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:47:48am |
re: #384 freetoken
Meanwhile, down in Durban:
Police seize protesters at Durban conference
No report of pepper spray though… maybe all of it has been shipped to the US?However…
PUPPETS!!
If OWS had had puppets they would have won…
/
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:48:43am |
re: #363 thedopefishlives
Morning Lizardim. I feel privileged - I finally got to sit in on a late night troll smackdown. It felt good and the gamey troll buttocks were perfectly roasted, if I do say so myself. How are things out there in the land of the odd?
I missed it?
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:49:04am |
re: #383 ggt
Cincinnati —get a hotel outside of the City tho. UP by the amusment park. Driving anywhere in Cinci only takes about 20 minutes, so don’t let distances fool you.
Oh wow, I can visit the Creation Museum!
(Wait, what? No, that would totally suck.)
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:50:28am |
re: #384 freetoken
No sign of a revisit from the Giant Duck of Peace, though?
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:50:40am |
re: #386 ggt
I missed it?
If he is talking about the AGW denier you didn’t miss much. Standard talking points, and standard “you villify because you’re liberal and wrong” defense.
:p
The next thread after that one suffered from immediate contamination as well from another source.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:50:55am |
re: #379 oaktree
Just from a travel point of view you’d probably want to favor stopping in Kentucky simply to avoid having to deal with crossing the Ohio the next morning in commuter traffic.
And there’s lots of options between Lexington and Louisville. Though I did the Motel 6-ish option when I drove from Philadelphia to St Louis a few years back and did Philly-Louisville as a single leg of the drive. (That allowed me to leisurely visit Ft Knox and some other points going west from there.)
oh, I forgot then I-64 bridge from Indiana to Louisville is closed. Major traffic conjestion.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:51:36am |
re: #376 ralphieboy
I personally won’t believe any of it until they show photos of the pilot…
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:54:05am |
re: #387 Alouette
Oh wow, I can visit the Creation Museum!
(Wait, what? No, that would totally suck.)
Underground Railroad/Freedom Center whatever it’s called is in Cinci. It is very cool.
They have Underground RR tours.
Ulysses S. Grant’s birthplace is a little ways to the East. President Hayes (?) Home and all is in Cinci too. There is a big Jewish Community, but I never explored that aspect of history while I lived there.
Kentucky Horse Park in Lexington is worth visiting any time of the year.
I also lived on the Indiana side of Louisville in H.S. I don’t remember anything memorable from those days. And from what I hear downtown L’ville has deteriorated.
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darthstar Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:55:22am |
Wow…so Newt will pretty much seal the sexual predator vote with Cain’s endorsement.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:56:54am |
re: #389 oaktree
If he is talking about the AGW denier you didn’t miss much. Standard talking points, and standard “you villify because you’re liberal and wrong” defense.
It was at least mildly entertaining. I usually don’t get to play much with trolls when they’re live, only barbecue their gamey buttocks, so it was a new experience for me.
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kirkspencer Mon, Dec 5, 2011 6:57:14am |
re: #370 thedopefishlives
Yeah, I saw that story in a lot of news feeds, but they all ran back to Iranian state sources, toward whom I seem to harbor an unnatural distrust. I guess I should just be like the rest of the world and take the Iranians’ word at face value./
No, check my link. The stories the other day led to the Iranian statement. This is from the ISAF - the US/NATO side of the story - saying they lost a drone.
re: #372 Decatur Deb
Hold your fork, it could be as simple as a bird blowing a circuit board and wandering off until it ran out of fuel.
re: #380 oaktree
Given that it’s a single-engine aircraft simple mechanical failure is always a decent probability.
I agree, it could be those. The point, however, is that we’ve gone from “impossible” to “maybe.”
ISAF lost control of a drone. They don’t know what happened to it but assume it was shot down. (Actually, they claim it was shot down but admit they don’t know. Not the way to inspire trust, guys.)
Iran claims its forces downed the drone, and further makes claims as to how they downed the drone.
One thing to note — the RQ-170, despite being a flying wing design, is not a stealth design. The only thing the Iranians might get from it is some sensor technology.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:03:13am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:03:18am |
This is interesting…
Iran threatening to cut Hamas funds, arms supply if it flees Syria
A Syrian opposition spokesman said recently that once Assad is toppled, his successors will have no intention of preserving the strategic alliance between Damascus, Tehran and Hezbollah.
According to the Palestinian sources, only “second and third-ranking” Hamas activists are leaving Damascus, while senior members of the organization’s political wing, headed by Khaled Meshal, are remaining in the Syrian capital.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:14:28am |
Looks like Donald is not taking the brush off lightly:
Trump: Huntsman and Paul are ‘joke candidates’
Donald Trump has once again said that if Republican primary voters can’t pick a candidate he believes will beat President Obama, he’ll run for president himself.
Trump made the comment in an interview with TODAY’s Matt Lauer Monday while promoting his new book, “Time to Get Tough: Making America #1 Again,” out that same day.
If “the wrong candidate is nominated to run” and “it’s a candidate that’s not going to win and not very good,’’ Trump said he would “certainly think about running as an independent.’’ […]The “Apprentice” host will moderate a Republican debate in Des Moines on Dec. 27, one week before the Iowa caucuses.
Newt Gingrich is the only potential candidate set to attend the debate, an event that has been derided by the campaigns of Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman. The debate contributes to “an unwanted, circus-like atmosphere,’’ according to Paul, while Huntsman’s campaign called it “the presidential ‘Apprentice’ debate with Donald.’’
“I think most candidates are going to join, and I think those two candidates have zero chance of being elected so it makes no difference,’’ Trump said. “I think that they are joke candidates. They’re doing very poorly and certainly Mr. Huntsman is doing extremely poorly in the polls at one percent. Frankly it gives more airtime to people that really have a chance at getting elected. I think it will get tremendous ratings.’’
One candidate Trump would like to have is front-runner Mitt Romney, whose support has eroded in Iowa and New Hampshire. Romney has visited Trump Tower “a number of times,’’ according to Trump, even though reports have said Romney has only visited Trump’s office twice during this election cycle. Romney is careful to avoid photographers and the press when visiting the Manhattan-based mogul.
Romney is down seven points in Iowa and six points New Hampshire in the latest polls.
“I’m a little surprised,’’ Trump said. “He’s a very attractive guy. He doesn’t get traction, and I’ve actually spoken to him about it. I don’t understand it.’’
Trump addressed recent controversial comments by Gingrich, who said that children in poor neighborhoods “have no habit of showing up on Monday and staying all day’’ because they have no role models.
“It wasn’t maybe politically correct, but it happens to be the truth,’’ Trump said. “One of the reasons (Gingrich is) surging, and he’s like a rocket ship, is because he says it like it is. He really is looking at the inner city, where Obama has done nothing.
“No, (poor children) don’t have, in many cases, role models. It’s very sad. I know it’s not a popular statement, but it happens to be true.’’
Trump is anything but poor, as he reveals his net worth in his new book. He told Lauer his fortune is worth seven billion dollars and he has 300 million dollars in cash in the bank.
“Frankly I did it because I’m very proud of what I’ve been able to do,’’ Trump said about the financial disclosure. “I’ve built a great company.’’
For Trump, priority number one is defeating Obama.
[…]“I want a great candidate, a candidate that is going to beat President Obama. It’s very important. It’s vital to this country. If we don’t get that candidate we are in big trouble because the country is in big trouble. It’s being led down the drain.’’
NBC figures show that voters in Iowa and New Hampshire would be less likely to support a candidate who gets Trump’s support by a 2-1 margin.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:16:50am |
re: #400 freetoken
Ooh, I hope The Donald runs (with The Hair as VP). Would be a nice spoiler.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:17:34am |
re: #394 darthstar
Wow…so Newt will pretty much seal the sexual predator vote with Cain’s endorsement.
Can’t believe I’m siding with Buck on this… Accusations have flown… proof hasn’t been shown.
-(Something Johnny Cochran might’ve said).
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:18:32am |
re: #402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What would constitute proof for you? Suppose the full statements are published. These are still just words, right?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:18:40am |
re: #402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Can’t believe I’m siding with Buck on this… Accusations have flown… proof hasn’t been shown.
-(Something Johnny Cochran might’ve said).
I don’t think anyone really disagrees with that. However, I think you would take the allegations seriously, unlike Buck, who prefers to brush them off.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:19:52am |
re: #402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Rephrasing what I wrote earlier (in response to a Buck post): Cain’s not worth this fight.
He has already shown by lying to the public about the two NRA settlements. He totally denied knowing anything about their existence, only later to sort of admit that yes they existed.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:20:48am |
re: #403 Sergey Romanov
What would constitute proof for you? Suppose the full statements are published. These are still just words, right?
A sperm-stained dress and a DNA test, maybe.
/
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:21:55am |
re: #403 Sergey Romanov
What would constitute proof for you? Suppose the full statements are published. These are still just words, right?
I gave a hundred bucks to a person that I’m not diddling last month because she needed some help. She’s been out of work for two months, and was about to go back to work, needed a haircut and a pair of shoes (was foot surgery that kept her out of work).
There’s my full public statement. It’s the truth.
I doubt my wife would buy it; so I didn’t tell her.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:22:18am |
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kirkspencer Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:22:37am |
re: #402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Can’t believe I’m siding with Buck on this… Accusations have flown… proof hasn’t been shown.
-(Something Johnny Cochran might’ve said).
Depends on what standard of “proof” you’re using.
Beyond a shadow of a doubt (criminal standard)? No, not proven.
Preponderance of evidence (civil standard)? Yes. Not only multiple claimants, but multiple claimants who were paid as compensation for their claims. Oh, and someone who has pictures, recordings, and bank statements about the long-term affair. Clinched by the fact Cain lied multiple times. How do we know he lied? He changed his story of what he knew or recalled multiple times, contradicting prior statements. The women’s stories, however, remained constant.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:25:09am |
re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The latest claim was about voluntary relations. DS was playing on the earlier claims. Looking at the totality of evidence I would say it’s more likely than not that Cain harassed at least several of those women.
So, again, what proof would you require?
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prairiefire Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:25:28am |
re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think your judgement is much better than Cain’s. Your’s was selfless, Cain’s, not so much.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:25:59am |
The thing these guys don’t seem to get is that people don’t really care that you have human flaws —they care that LIE about it.
Well, they care, but the clincher is being dishonest and setting yourself up as perfect, whe there is no way you can be.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:26:02am |
I don’t recall if I jumped on Edwards after the allegations came out. Can’t stand the fuck, so, I’m guessing I did. I was certainly inclined to believe he’d be such a shit.
Don’t wanna be intellectually dishonest, so I should let the matter drop. Sorry, y’all.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:27:48am |
I’d love to know what ads are showing up on ya’ll’s screens.
I’ve been searching and shopping a lot.
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albusteve Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:27:58am |
WASHINGTON — The huge explosion that destroyed a major missile-testing site near Tehran three weeks ago was a major setback for Iran’s most advanced long-range missile program, according to American and Israeli intelligence officials and missile technology experts.
don’t need to wreck the car, just slash the tires
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:28:38am |
re: #414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It’s worth trying to fight for the presumed innocence… but not in this case IMO.
I tried to the very end to support (oh, what was that NY congressman’s name with the phone image of himself?), only to finally having to accept it.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:29:28am |
re: #414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The problem with the initial Edwards claims was that they came through the Enquirer. The sources in the Cain case seem much more credible to me.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:29:56am |
re: #417 freetoken
It’s worth trying to fight for the presumed innocence… but not in this case IMO.
I tried to the very end to support (oh, what was that NY congressman’s name with the phone image of himself?), only to finally having to accept it.
What get’s me is the teenage boy aspect of a lot of these guys behavior.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:30:17am |
re: #417 freetoken
Yeah, but with Cain? I honestly don’t give a shit. For me it was more about convicting him in the court of public opinion than it was about Herman Cain.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:31:23am |
re: #418 Sergey Romanov
The problem with the initial Edwards claims was that they came through the Enquirer. The sources in the Cain case seem much more credible to me.
Sorry. I don’t personally know the sources well enough to grant them credibility.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:32:02am |
I’d love to go back in time and see how I reacted to Edwards’ story.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:32:46am |
re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I’d love to go back in time and see how I reacted to Edwards’ story.
You can do that with LGFfu
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:33:41am |
re: #421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sorry. I don’t personally know the sources well enough to grant them credibility.
Does that apply to any witness testimony?
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:35:20am |
re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I’d love to go back in time and see how I reacted to Edwards’ story.
What nickname did you use back then (Oct ‘07)?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:35:46am |
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:37:08am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:37:36am |
re: #426 000G
What nickname did you use back then (Oct ‘07)?
FBV… I’m searching now.
Just found this little gem…
Okay, just chucked some bucks to McCain. My first political donation.
Wasn’t Palin in the VH “Hot for Teacher” video?
(I had the serious ‘hots’ for Sarah)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:38:27am |
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:39:22am |
Again, to me the especially damning thing was how Cain tried to deny the NRA settlements all together, about even knowing about such things. When the NRA finally acknowledged them then Cain had to come clean.
IOW, Cain was caught red handed in trying to dupe the public. Now one might argue that he was just embarrassed about those two events, but that is the point: if he is willing to engage in a deception campaign over that then I and most people are going to simply have to question everything he denies from here on out.
That’s the problem when your caught like he was.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:41:03am |
re: #420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yeah, but with Cain? I honestly don’t give a shit. For me it was more about convicting him in the court of public opinion than it was about Herman Cain.
Cliché. Afaic, lot of the overdefensiveness about the matter was also less about HC, also. To me, that’s the basis of his appeal and pandering to dumb conservative whites.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:41:30am |
re: #429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
This is the only one I can find.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:43:54am |
re: #429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
with FBV:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
Heh.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:44:58am |
re: #432 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Cliché. Afaic, lot of the overdefensiveness about the matter was also less about HC, also. To me, that’s the basis of his appeal and pandering to dumb conservative whites.
Thank you?
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:45:06am |
ouch:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:45:54am |
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:46:11am |
re: #435 000G
I remember Mickey Kaus pushing the Edwards story when much of the rest of the main stream media were not jumping on it, most like due to the tie-in with the National Enquirer. I always wondered if Kaus had another source that gave him the confidence to push it so much.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:47:25am |
re: #437 000G
Yep. I said it.
The first thing wasn’t related to the girlfriend though. Was about the whole basis for his law practice.
Second one, sho nuff.
Y’all have at. I need to shut up about it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:48:53am |
re: #438 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Thank you for what?
For calling me a dumb conserative white. Oh, wait.
I’m read… Crush does the eye roll… says, “when did I call you a dumb conservative white”, blah blah blah…
She’s here, I’m out.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:49:36am |
re: #441 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
For calling me a dumb conserative white. Oh, wait.
I’m read… Crush does the eye roll… says, “when did I call you a dumb conservative white”, blah blah blah…
She’s here, I’m out.
I didn’t call you anything, so knock off the oversensitive act.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:50:02am |
re: #440 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I need to shut up about it.
I don’t see why. Times change, assumptions change. Just because you said something in the past shouldn’t make you shut up in the present, as long as you know what you’re doing ;)
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:56:18am |
re: #419 ggt
What get’s me is the teenage boy aspect of a lot of these guys behavior.
Lap Dances Find Academic Champion as Cities Clamp Down
Judith Hanna, a 75-year-old grandmother and anthropology professor, spent an afternoon in 2005 on a beach in Jacksonville, Florida, photographing women’s swimsuited backsides.
Hanna, who has spent almost 50 years studying the cultural expression of dance, called the fieldwork “interesting.” Her pictures, meant to demonstrate local enthusiasm for exposed flesh, became evidence in a nightclub’s fight against an ordinance requiring strippers to better cover their derrieres. Since 1995, Hanna, a University of Maryland researcher, has helped clubs repel efforts to tax, regulate or close them, arguing more than 100 times that striptease is just as much an art as ballet.
[…]
If any of the candidates are caught being a connoisseur of strip clubs at least they know who to call to their defense.
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darthstar Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:58:27am |
re: #444 freetoken
Lap Dances Find Academic Champion as Cities Clamp Down
If any of the candidates are caught being a connoisseur of strip clubs at least they know who to call to their defense.
That link doesn’t lead to her collection of bikini butts.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 7:58:54am |
re: #445 darthstar
That link doesn’t lead to her collection of bikini butts.
Some exercises are left to the student.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:02:33am |
There is a conference on recent Kepler discoveries. NASA is doing a live teleconference. Expect a bunch of new planets.
[Link: connect.arc.nasa.gov…]
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:03:53am |
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darthstar Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:07:48am |
re: #446 freetoken
Some exercises are left to the student.
It would have been a generous gesture on your part in this season of giving. Even Christ liked looking at a tight butt…that’s why he hung out with Maggie (as she was known to her friends).
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darthstar Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:08:59am |
re: #448 freetoken
Big news:
NASA’s Kepler Mission Confirms Its First Planet in Habitable Zone of Sun-like Star
If Newt gets elected, those fuckers better pray they don’t have oil.
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Interesting Times Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:09:00am |
re: #448 freetoken
Big news:
NASA’s Kepler Mission Confirms Its First Planet in Habitable Zone of Sun-like Star
So how soon until humans find a way to fuck it up too?
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darthstar Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:09:39am |
re: #451 publicityStunted
So how soon until humans find a way to fuck it up too?
Earth First! We’ll log the other planets later.
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Varek Raith Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:10:12am |
re: #451 publicityStunted
So how soon until humans find a way to fuck it up too?
It’s 600 lightyears away.
We’d need way FTL or generational ships to get to the planet to mess up.
;)
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:10:18am |
re: #451 publicityStunted
So how soon until humans find a way to fuck it up too?
Well, let’s see. It’s how far away? And it’ll take us how long to send a probe there? Alright, as soon as it lands, that long.
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reloadingisnotahobby Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:12:45am |
…well if we leave now…Everyone go to bathroom??
drill baby drill!!
Youbetcha!
Regards Sarah…//
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darthstar Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:12:51am |
re: #454 thedopefishlives
Well, let’s see. It’s how far away? And it’ll take us how long to send a probe there? Alright, as soon as it lands, that long.
Is NASA still putting vials of common cold virus on space probes in the off chance that any alien life forms that find them are hostile?
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Varek Raith Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:14:12am |
re: #454 thedopefishlives
Well, let’s see. It’s how far away? And it’ll take us how long to send a probe there? Alright, as soon as it lands, that long.
Probes?
Not feasible.
Radio signals move at the speed of light.
It would take 1200 years for a radio signal to reach there and come back to earth to say it reached there.
Space is stupidly big.
:)
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darthstar Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:15:22am |
re: #457 Varek Raith
Probes?
Not feasible.
Radio signals move at the speed of light.
It would take 1200 years for a radio signal to reach there and come back to earth to say it reached there.
Space is stupidly big.
:)
I just want a car that goes as fast as a radio signal.
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darthstar Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:18:09am |
re: #457 Varek Raith
Probes?
Not feasible.
Radio signals move at the speed of light.
It would take 1200 years for a radio signal to reach there and come back to earth to say it reached there.
Space is stupidly big.
:)
Wait…can’t we just bend time a little, so as we approach radio/light speed, the other planet gets closer? It should be easy…though coming to a stop in zero friction could be a hassle.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:18:32am |
re: #457 Varek Raith
Probes?
Not feasible.
Radio signals move at the speed of light.
It would take 1200 years for a radio signal to reach there and come back to earth to say it reached there.
Space is stupidly big.
:)
Yes, I know. I am not completely stupid. I just look that way. ;)
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Varek Raith Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:19:38am |
re: #460 thedopefishlives
Yes, I know. I am not completely stupid. I just look that way. ;)
Oh, I just geek out when it comes to space.
:)
| 463 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:22:59am |
‘Occupier’ Lands Job On Wall Street
She held signs that read, “Reagan sucks,” and, “I’ll vote after the revolution.”
But she said she still needed to get a real job. So she made a new sign.
On the front, she wrote, “Ph.D. Biomedical Scientist seeking full time employment,” and on the back, “Ask me for my resume.”
It caught the eye of Wayne Kaufman, chief market analyst for John Thomas Financial Brokerage. The exec wasn’t looking to hire, but he took Postert’s résumé anyway.
That was Oct. 22, Postert’s Day 10 as an Occupier.
The next day, Kaufman, impressed by her CV, sent her an e-mail asking if she’d like to come for an interview.
| 464 |
Varek Raith Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:23:06am |
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:24:27am |
re: #462 Varek Raith
Oh, I just geek out when it comes to space.
:)
I’m sure you can get some sort of gravitational lens or other interplanetary range death-ray going. So it’s lightspeed for messing it up, not some feeble acceleration of a probe.
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kirkspencer Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:24:56am |
re: #458 darthstar
I just want a car that goes as fast as a radio signal.
I’d prefer one that goes as fast as rumor, leaving the radio signal in the dust.
| 468 |
Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:25:24am |
re: #466 Varek Raith
How goes the greenhouse?
I hear the frogs are practicing archery due to slow progress.
;)
| 469 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:26:31am |
re: #466 Varek Raith
How goes the greenhouse?
They’re still working on the foundation. Hopefully they’ll pour the concrete this afternoon but probably not until tomorrow. I still have hope it’ll be completed and inspected before x-mas but it’s going to be close.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:26:41am |
re: #462 Varek Raith
Oh, I just geek out when it comes to space.
:)
Me too. I read the latest updates on the Voyager probes to see if they’ve completely exited the solar system yet.
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Varek Raith Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:26:54am |
re: #469 Killgore Trout
They’re still working on the foundation. Hopefully they’ll pour the concrete this afternoon but probably not until tomorrow. I still have hope it’ll be completed and inspected before x-mas but it’s going to be close.
Rain delays?
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:28:15am |
Without having a visual feed, I’m listening to the audio:
[Link: www.nasa.gov…]
Kepler-22b is a Super Earth in size between the Earth and Neptune.
| 473 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:28:15am |
re: #471 Varek Raith
Rain delays?
Rain delays, long thanksgiving weekend, waiting for inspectors to show up, etc. All these little things pile up and nothing happens as fast as it should.
| 474 |
reloadingisnotahobby Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:28:55am |
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Interesting Times Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:31:51am |
re: #472 freetoken
Kepler-22b is a Super Earth in size between the Earth and Neptune.
What are your thoughts on the Fermi paradox?
The Fermi paradox…is the apparent contradiction between high estimates of the probability of the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations and the lack of evidence for, or contact with, such civilizations.
| 477 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:32:08am |
re: #475 Varek Raith
It’ll be interesting to see if they survive the transition across the bow shock of interstellar space.
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Varek Raith Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:34:11am |
re: #476 publicityStunted
What are your thoughts on the Fermi paradox?
Space is stupidly big.
That’s my answer.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:35:15am |
Unfortunately the press conference doesn’t seem to have video, just audio, but I did find the power point presentation I believe:
[Link: www.nasa.gov…]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:36:30am |
re: #437 000G
ouch:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
You still here? How’d you find those so fast?
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:39:25am |
re: #480 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Search for your posts, specify relevant date range and add Edwards as a search term.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:44:47am |
That PowerPoint presentation has some neat slides… but having the audio would help those who aren’t familiar with the concepts.
The short version: Kepler data indicates there are a shit-load of planets in our galaxy.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:49:44am |
I just thought I would report on the relentless march of “Sharia” here in Dearbornistan.
I popped into the Ford Road Walmart on my lunch break, grabbed a bag of pita bread which was not labeled halal but which did have a kosher certification on it. SNEAKY, stealth halal pita bread certified kosher by jewicidal JINO’s!
There were huge displays in the store of decorations and stuff, for the upcoming Muslim holiday whose colors are green, red and white, featuring some bearded sheik in a floppy red turban and a red jalabiyah.
Then when I checked out, the cashier wished me a “Happy Holidays!” OUTRAGE!1!!
On the way back to my car, I was accosted by some panhandler ringing a bell and ordering everyone to drop their jizya contributions into a big red kettle for some jihad group called the “Salvation Army.”
Somebody tell Pam about this!1!
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:57:02am |
re: #483 Alouette
I just thought I would report on the relentless march of “Sharia” here in Dearbornistan.
I popped into the Ford Road Walmart on my lunch break, grabbed a bag of pita bread which was not labeled halal but which did have a kosher certification on it. SNEAKY, stealth halal pita bread certified kosher by jewicidal JINO’s!
There were huge displays in the store of decorations and stuff, for the upcoming Muslim holiday whose colors are green, red and white, featuring some bearded sheik in a floppy red turban and a red jalabiyah.
Then when I checked out, the cashier wished me a “Happy Holidays!” OUTRAGE!1!!
On the way back to my car, I was accosted by some panhandler ringing a bell and ordering everyone to drop their jizya contributions into a big red kettle for some jihad group called the “Salvation Army.”
Somebody tell Pam about this!1!
You might have misread the kettle. Sure it wasn’t the “Sharia Army”?
//
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:58:59am |
re: #483 Alouette
I just thought I would report on the relentless march of “Sharia” here in Dearbornistan.
I popped into the Ford Road Walmart on my lunch break, grabbed a bag of pita bread which was not labeled halal but which did have a kosher certification on it. SNEAKY, stealth halal pita bread certified kosher by jewicidal JINO’s!
There were huge displays in the store of decorations and stuff, for the upcoming Muslim holiday whose colors are green, red and white, featuring some bearded sheik in a floppy red turban and a red jalabiyah.
Then when I checked out, the cashier wished me a “Happy Holidays!” OUTRAGE!1!!
On the way back to my car, I was accosted by some panhandler ringing a bell and ordering everyone to drop their jizya contributions into a big red kettle for some jihad group called the “Salvation Army.”
Somebody tell Pam about this!1!
UNTIL WHEN ???!!?!!…
/
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freetoken Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:59:11am |
Seth Borenstein of the NYT is on the press conference, and he admits his editors don’t realize how important this news is.
Once upon a time it would have been big news… Today - it’ll fall somewhere below The Donald’s hair spray choice.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Dec 5, 2011 9:05:11am |
re: #484 oaktree
You might have misread the kettle. Sure it wasn’t the “Sharia Army”?
//
You must be right! They copied the colors and font and everything of “Salvation Army” in order to TRICK people! Tricksy Muslims!
| 488 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Dec 5, 2011 9:05:45am |
Somebody named “johninlongmont” has just registered to downding a couple of frontpage posts?
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lawhawk Mon, Dec 5, 2011 9:07:51am |
re: #486 freetoken
Someone is going to have a Contact moment here.
/billions and billions of stars, each with billion of planets, and we now have the technology to see planets similar to our own Earth orbiting suns similar to our own sun.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 5, 2011 9:09:11am |
re: #489 lawhawk
Someone is going to have a Contact moment here.
/billions and billions of stars, each with billion of planets, and we now have the technology to see planets similar to our own Earth orbiting suns similar to our own sun.
I’ve already applied to put up the 1st Starbucks there!!
| 491 |
Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 5, 2011 9:10:05am |
re: #478 Varek Raith
Space is stupidly big.
That’s my answer.
Secondary answer is that you figure that at least a certain number of potential civilizations will turn inward to deal with internal issues rather than spend resources searching/examining outward - especially once you consider the investment slope to make orbital and solar system work economically profitable. Not to mention the opportunity (and political) cost of spending the time and resources.
| 492 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 9:10:54am |
re: #489 lawhawk
Should we limit potential “life” planets to those with water? Even Mustafar had life forms, and it’s just a big ole’ volcano planet.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Dec 5, 2011 9:12:22am |
re: #483 Alouette
bearded sheik in a floppy red turban and a red jalabiyah
The one with the boney knees?
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 5, 2011 9:12:34am |
re: #492 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Should we limit potential “life” planets to those with water? Even Mustafar had life forms, and it’s just a big ole’ volcano planet.
Well we do know by sci-fi trope that all methane breathers are hostile to oxygen using beings.
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 5, 2011 9:14:02am |
re: #495 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Why do you hate “Tang”?
Mix it with sugar, cinnamon, and instant tea and it’s a useful item to carry on backpacking trips!
:)
| 497 |
lawhawk Mon, Dec 5, 2011 9:15:53am |
re: #492 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We’re considering Titan and Europa in our own solar system as potentially harboring life-forms, even though they would be based on a completely different physiology and biochemical makeup. I guess the scientists want to show just how many planets fall within a classification that would be akin to the M class worlds on Star Trek. And that makes plenty of sense, since many folks who go into the sciences are Star Trek geeks.
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ProBosniaLiberal Mon, Dec 5, 2011 9:17:59am |
re: #497 lawhawk
On the subject of Titan, from Wikipedia:
The very high ratio of atmospheric density to surface gravity also greatly reduces the wingspan needed for an aircraft to maintain lift, so much so that a human would be able to strap on wings and easily fly through the atmosphere.
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Wozza Matter? Mon, Dec 5, 2011 9:19:22am |
re: #489 lawhawk
Someone is going to have a Contact moment here.
/billions and billions of stars, each with billion of planets, and we now have the technology to see planets similar to our own Earth orbiting suns similar to our own sun.
I would have done, but they should have sent a poet to post that.
;)
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