At RJC Forum, Gingrich Says He’ll Appoint John Bolton As Secretary of State

With Pamela Geller as ambassador to Saudi Arabia?
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Speaking today at the Republican Jewish Coalition’s Presidential Candidates Forum, Newt Gingrich announced that for Secretary of State, his pick would be John Bolton.

Yes, that would be the same John Bolton who wrote the foreword for the deranged anti-Obama book by hatebloggers Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War on America, and who appeared in a recorded message at Geller’s ugly “Ground Zero Mosque” hatefest last year. (Newt, in typical Gingrich fashion, agreed to speak too but then bailed out.)

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1 Altermite  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:44:17pm

Oh good. I always thought a mustache and a bad tempter were more important than being qualified, anyways.

2 Kragar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:44:55pm

Wouldn't a cardboard cutout captioned with "BOMB THEM!" be cheaper?

3 dragonath  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:45:44pm

You know, it's kind of amazing this guy used to be our ambassador to the UN.

4 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:45:58pm

Gingrich is more and more like a villain from a Dickens novel. Wasn't it Scrooge who called for more workhouses when asked for charity for children? Or was it that guy from Oliver Twist with the work house? Either way, How fitting this holiday season and how obvious the connections.

Newt is Scrooge.

5 freetoken  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:46:19pm

And this guy will be charge of much of the rest in a Gingrich admin:

6 freetoken  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:46:40pm

re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote

See my latest page?

7 darthstar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:46:41pm
8 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:46:49pm
9 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:47:04pm

re: #5 freetoken

And this guy will be charge of much of the rest in a Gingrich admin:

[Video]

One of the worst GOP nuts in all aspects.

10 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:47:29pm

re: #6 freetoken

See my latest page?

No... I've been away for a bit and just checking in. Link?

11 freetoken  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:48:40pm

re: #10 LudwigVanQuixote

No... I've been away for a bit and just checking in. Link?

12 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:49:05pm

re: #10 LudwigVanQuixote

*smooch*

13 freetoken  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:49:08pm

Whoops... that didn't work...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

14 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:49:31pm

re: #12 Floral Giraffe

*smooch*

Hey hon!

15 engineer cat  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:49:46pm

Gingrich Says He’ll Appoint John Bolton

i need medication for Moron Overload

16 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:51:08pm

re: #13 freetoken

Whoops... that didn't work...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Great page. Some of my work is getting presented at that meeting (one of my co-authors is presenting). It is part of what has kept me so busy.

17 blueraven  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:52:09pm

Frank says:

It would be easier to pay off the national debt overnight than to neutralize the long-range effects of OUR NATIONAL STUPIDITY.

QFT

18 freetoken  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:52:31pm

Anyway, back square on topic - Gingrich is really pulling out all the stops, as well as Perry (who is playing the God-card daily.)

So the question is, exactly which constituency is Gingrich hoping to attract with this announcement? Certainly its not the wrap-around-libertarian types who flock to Ron Paul. And, Bolton isn't exactly the James Dobson-esque figure that the religious right would champion, is he?

It must be the old war-hawk coalition... but they don't seem no numerous anymore.

19 darthstar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:53:20pm

re: #18 freetoken

Someone needs to tell Perry that that Jesus decal on his campaign bus isn't going to get him into the White House.

20 darthstar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:55:08pm

re: #3 dragonath

You know, it's kind of amazing this guy used to be our ambassador to the UN.

Look who appointed him...someone who also felt the UN needed to be disbanded as it was an inconvenient check on US Unilateralism. Bolton as Secretary of State? That would be, to quote Barney Frank from last year's town halls to some idiot woman, like negotiating "with a dining room table."

21 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:55:18pm

re: #13 freetoken

Part of what people don't understand is that man made forcings are very fast in geologcial times, but the recovery won't be. It took millions of years to sequester what we have put up there.

What people really don't understand is that all those dire predictions I and others keep making about the coming decades, just keep getting worse and worse for centuries.

We are dooming species.

22 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:55:18pm

re: #13 freetoken

Whoops... that didn't work...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Great page. I almost missed that one. I may promote it...

23 blueraven  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:55:31pm

re: #19 darthstar

Someone needs to tell Perry that that Jesus decal on his campaign bus isn't going to get him into the White House.

It got him in to the TX Governors mansion, but then it burned down. Maybe Jesus was sending him a message.

24 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:56:28pm

so his grand plan to fix the economy is to make sure we're at war with pretty much everyone?

25 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:56:51pm

re: #24 Dreggas

so his grand plan to fix the economy is to make sure we're at war with pretty much everyone?

Also, moustaches

26 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:57:20pm

re: #22 Charles

Great page. I almost missed that one. I may promote it...

You should.

27 freetoken  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:57:20pm

re: #22 Charles

Well, Inhofe has already declared victory... so I guess it doesn't matter anymore.

Problem is Inhofe is correct - in regards to the UNFCCC. It has now become the second incarnation of the League of Nations. It really has. 19 years and very, very little to show for success. Only the UN Human Rights group has a worse record, IMO.

28 iossarian  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:58:13pm

re: #24 Dreggas

so his grand plan to fix the economy is to make sure we're at war with pretty much everyone?

You are ascribing a degree of rational thought to a Republican politician that is simply unwarranted. There is no evidence that these people are capable of any reasoning more complex than:

JINGOISTIC CATCH PHRASE VOTES POWER MONEY

29 darthstar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:58:23pm

re: #23 blueraven

It got him in to the TX Governors mansion, but then it burned down. Maybe Jesus was sending him a message.

That was a planned demolition for renovation purposes.

30 freetoken  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 1:58:42pm

re: #24 Dreggas

so his grand plan to fix the economy is to make sure we're at war with pretty much everyone?

War spending is an economic stimulus (assuming one doesn't accrue the damages to everybody.)

31 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:01:17pm

re: #28 iossarian

You are ascribing a degree of rational thought to a Republican politician that is simply unwarranted. There is no evidence that these people are capable of any reasoning more complex than:

JINGOISTIC CATCH PHRASE VOTES POWER MONEY

THE MOUSTACHE IS IN SESSION


THIS IS MY ASSISTANT DRUNKY MCDHIMMICOUGAR

WE ENJOY LONG WALKS ON THE BEACH AND ASSAULTING STAFF MEMBERS IN THEIR HOTEL ROOMS

32 blueraven  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:01:46pm

re: #29 darthstar

That was a planned demolition for renovation purposes.

Planned?
By whom?

Or did you just forget a sarc tag?

33 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:03:34pm

re: #30 freetoken

War spending is an economic stimulus (assuming one doesn't accrue the damages to everybody.)

Just think of all the money we'd save if we put some of those welfare recipients and their kids to work clearing land mines in Afghanistan. After a year of service they'd be eligible to purchase prostheses at a significant discount.

34 darthstar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:04:05pm

re: #32 blueraven

Planned?
By whom?

Or did you just forget a sarc tag?

Sometimes a sarc tag seems to be redundant. Though I wouldn't put it past someone like Perry to get around a budgeting issue with a "HOLY FUCK THE PLACE JUST EXPLODED INTO FLAMES!" solution.

35 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:04:34pm

re: #33 negativ

let's have a war!

36 albusteve  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:05:46pm

re: #35 WindUpBird

let's have a war!

[Video]

my kinda war....
more cowbell!

37 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:05:46pm

What a fine choice, as the GOP starts banging the war drums ever louder.

38 wrenchwench  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:05:51pm

re: #17 blueraven

Frank says:

It would be easier to pay off the national debt overnight than to neutralize the long-range effects of OUR NATIONAL STUPIDITY.

QFT

Here's what I got:

Frank says:

He was in a quandary...being devoured by the swirling cesspool of his own steaming desires...

I can't figure out which candidate he's talking about...

39 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:07:19pm

re: #13 freetoken

Whoops... that didn't work...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

And one other thing that you should add to that page is that the two degree mark - which we are finding was hopelessly optimistic in terms of the damage it will cause is not something that we are likely capable to stop from reaching at this point. We will be lucky to hold the world to three degrees at this point. Of course that assumes we start hard work now.

Unfortunately, emissions had the largest growth ever last year at 5.9%.

That figure was mostly from coal burning in China and does not include released methane from sloppy methane mining techniques.

40 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:07:33pm

re: #35 WindUpBird

41 Kragar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:08:01pm

A More Precise, Aggressive, Navy SEAL-Like Religious Right?

Farris: While I am really discouraged about what I am seeing in today's leaders, I get the privilege of seeing tomorrow's leaders virtually every day and it really does encourage me about what's coming because people who know the truth, who are trained to articulate it in a winsome fashion, they're going to turn this country around.

Deace: You know, it's funny you mention that; I've said to many media people I've had a chance to talk to in the last few months that this next generation of Christian political engagement will not look like the previous one. I don't know that we'll be able to mount mass offensives of people like we previously did but I do think what you're describing is what we'll have instead, which is more of a Navy SEAL sort of a unit. It will be smaller, but it will be better trained, it will be more aggressive, it will be more precise, it will be about more principle then I think trying to negotiate with the binary political party system and it might ultimately not be as big or raise as much money [but] that might be more effective.

42 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:09:18pm

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

and it might ultimately not be as big or raise as much money [but] that might be more effective.

lol


So by being weaker and smaller, they're bigger and stronger? :D

43 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:11:37pm

re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote

Gingrich is more and more like a villain from a Dickens novel. Wasn't it Scrooge who called for more workhouses when asked for charity for children? Or was it that guy from Oliver Twist with the work house? Either way, How fitting this holiday season and how obvious the connections.

Newt is Scrooge.

Though in Newt's case I presume he would be haunted by the spirits of Wives past, present, and future?

44 justaminute  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:12:26pm

Gingrich has always had a problem with kids. IIRC one of the main reasons that he was reprimanded by the House was that he set up a bogus charity and he pocketed the proceeds that were intended for disadvantaged kids. He should have been in jail but he took the reprimand and resigned instead. You have to be really corrupt to be shown the door by Republicans.

45 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:13:04pm

re: #43 oaktree

Though in Newt's case I presume he would be haunted by the spirits of Wives past, present, and future?

Ohh that is good.

46 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:13:54pm

[Link: myoccupylaarrest.blogspot.com...]

But back to Charles Prince. For his four years of in charge of massive, repeated fraud at Citigroup, he received fifty-three million dollars in salary and also received another ninety-four million dollars in stock holdings. What Charles Prince has *not* received is a pair of zipcuffs. The nerves in his thumb are fine. No cop has thrown Charles Prince into the pavement, face-first. Each and every peaceful, nonviolent Occupy LA protester arrested last week has has spent more time sleeping on a jail floor than every single Charles Prince on Wall Street, combined.

Our disgusting country. :) Cheers!

47 Kragar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:14:51pm

re: #42 WindUpBird

lol

So by being weaker and smaller, they're bigger and stronger? :D

"We force our enemy to spread out their forces through out the country, while we build up a solid core of leaders in this abandoned warehouse outside of Tulsa!"

48 Sionainn  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:15:49pm

I'm beginning to think that maybe all of the GOP presidential candidates are secret Obama supporters.

49 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:15:58pm

re: #47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"We force our enemy to spread out their forces through out the country, while we build up a solid core of leaders in this abandoned warehouse outside of Tulsa!"

"They burn with the faith of the Lord!"

"No you idiot, that's napalm! We've been found out!"
//

50 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:17:32pm

re: #48 Sionainn

I'm beginning to think that maybe all of the GOP presidential candidates are secret Obama supporters.

Well, as I've noted before, more and more wingnuts are coming to the conclusion that they'd rather have four more years of Obama than four years of defending Romney. Considering the avalanche of shit that's come down on Newt's head, I'm sure the same sentiment will migrate to his supporters before next fall.

51 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:17:43pm

re: #7 darthstar

Bolton?

Have you seen the Lonely Island (Andy Samberg from SNL) video they did with Bolton? It's hilarious!

The Lonely Island - Jack Sparrow (feat. Michael Bolton) (NSFW for language)

52 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:19:49pm

OK all... I got to run... see you soon.

53 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:20:14pm
54 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:20:43pm

re: #48 Sionainn

I'm beginning to think that maybe all of the GOP presidential candidates are secret Obama supporters.

I'm sure there is a web site out there that *seriously* claims that the entire GOP candidate slate is a gigantic Obama-led false flag conspiracy to ensure his re-election.

55 Kragar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:24:10pm

Daily Show Hijacks Rick Scott Presser: Prove You’re Not On Drugs By Peeing In This Cup

Daily Show correspondent Aasif Mandvi interrupted a press conference by Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) to ask him to prove to the state taxpayers that he’s not on drugs by peeing in a cup.

“You benefit from hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars every year, so would you be willing to pee into this cup to prove to Florida taxpayers that you’re not on drugs, that you’re not using that money for drugs?” Mandvi asked.

Scott replied that he’s “done it plenty of times.”

Mandvi then tried to pass a cup forward: “Would you pass this forward to the governor? We can all turn around, it’s fine.”

56 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:27:06pm

re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Daily Show Hijacks Rick Scott Presser: Prove You’re Not On Drugs By Peeing In This Cup

It truly is sad when "comedy" shows have to do more investigative reporting than the so-called "news" media.

57 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:27:32pm

re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Daily Show Hijacks Rick Scott Presser: Prove You’re Not On Drugs By Peeing In This Cup

That's so awesome...my guess is that the Daily Show's not gonna get any more correspondents in to those pressers ;-P

58 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:28:41pm

re: #42 WindUpBird

lol

So by being weaker and smaller, they're bigger and stronger? :D

I'm having troubling parsing the statement, but it sort of sounds like they're proposing using localized pressure groups using implicit networks to achieve policy goals rather than the public forums. You know--end-running the democratic process.

59 Kragar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:29:12pm

Interfaith Alliance Criticizes New Rick Perry “Strong” Ad

Rick Perry has taken us to a new low in campaign ads with his “Strong” ad. Under the guise of spirituality, Perry has taken the manipulation of religion for partisan political advantage to an incredible, almost unbelievable extreme. With a smile on his face, he trades on personal attacks and provable untruths that reveal no understanding of the first amendment to the Constitution and very little respect for the integrity of religion.

His ad suggests a war on religion that simply does not exist. His statement that he is ‘not ashamed to be a Christian,’ would seem to imply that too many of our public officials are. If anything, the opposite is true. Far too many candidates in both parties trying to use their faith as a political weapon rather than a source for inspiration. This is a race for commander-in-chief, not pastor-in-chief. His divisive and misleading message about faith has no place in a U.S Presidential campaign.

These are difficult times and we are a country facing serious challenges requiring real solutions. Prioritizing one religious perspective in favor of another does nothing to move us forward. As a fellow Christian, I want Gov. Perry to understand that he is woefully mistaken when he implies that it is his faith, rather than his policy views, that qualify him for office. Rather than fighting these supposed ‘liberal attacks’ on our religious heritage, he should focus on protecting that heritage by guarding religious freedom for everyone.

60 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:29:15pm
61 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:30:14pm

Hey, LVQ.
Long time no see.

62 Kragar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:32:16pm

Current stats for Rick Perry's "Strong Video"

426 likes, 14,244 dislikes

63 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:33:19pm

re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Current stats for Rick Perry's "Strong Video"

426 likes, 14,244 dislikes

We all know that the results are being tilted by the Paul Bots.
///

64 Kragar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:34:01pm

re: #63 oaktree

We all know that the results are being tilted by the Paul Bots.
///

90% of the dislikes were Newt Gingrich.
/

65 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:35:50pm

re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Interfaith Alliance Criticizes New Rick Perry “Strong” Ad

In elections past, we saw people on both sides of the aisle get bent out of shape if a candidate got within spitting distance of a pulpit. As recently as '04, Republicans were spittin' nails when Clinton "politicized" the pulpit of one of the largest churchs in NY, while liberals likewise were seeing red at the "hidden cross" on Bush's podium at the National Convention the same week.

66 Kragar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:36:49pm

Perry Says He ‘Absolutely’ Opposes Extending The Payroll Tax Cut And Unemployment Benefits

Q: So you would rather make sure that millionaires don’t pay even a little bit more — one or two percent — next year?

PERRY: What I’m looking for Wolf, is a president that will get this country back working and that temporary tax hike [sic] on that payroll tax is not even close to getting started.

Q: So you would vote against it?

PERRY: Absolutely, I’d vote against it. Get people to work.

Q: What about extending unemployment benefits?

PERRY: No, that is giving incentives for people to be unemployed.

Man, I wish I was unemployed so I could be racking in the those big bucks on unemployment.

67 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:39:57pm

re: #66 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Perry Says He ‘Absolutely’ Opposes Extending The Payroll Tax Cut And Unemployment Benefits

Man, I wish I was unemployed so I could be racking in the those big bucks on unemployment.

The next questions in that sequence should have been "How is taking $1,000 more out of people's pockets supposed to promote job creation?" and "Aren't you against raising taxes?"

68 Kragar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:42:13pm

re: #67 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The next questions in that sequence should have been "How is taking $1,000 more out of people's pockets supposed to promote job creation?" and "Aren't you against raising taxes?"

How is taking $1000 dollars from middle class families going to help them buy the goods and services the Job Creators are supposed to be providing? Why should Job Creators create jobs when people can't afford their goods and services?

69 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:47:37pm

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

How is taking $1000 dollars from middle class families going to help them buy the goods and services the Job Creators are supposed to be providing? Why should Job Creators create jobs when people can't afford their goods and services?

Free Market Jesus no doubt will just make the money magically appear.

/

70 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:47:57pm

re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Interfaith Alliance Criticizes New Rick Perry “Strong” Ad

Article 6, paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution (not even an amendment. The real McCoy):

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."


PS: The real McCoy crack was for those that think the amendments aren't really part of the constitution.

71 Firstinla  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:54:24pm

Perhaps it is only my over active imagination but it sounds to me like the Christian right envisions a militant group that corresponds to militant Muslims. If so we could round up all of them and ship them to some deserted island where they could duke it out once and for ever. The winner gets to keep the island.

72 erik_t  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:55:34pm

re: #71 Firstinla

Cyprus?

///

73 Kragar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 2:56:29pm

re: #72 erik_t

Cyprus?

///

Atlantis.

74 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 3:39:22pm

Sounds like this statement by Newt could have broken the law...(we can only hope again)


[Link: politicalwire.com...]

75 Kragar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 3:42:00pm

re: #74 wozzablog

Sounds like this statement by Newt could have broken the law...(we can only hope again)

[Link: politicalwire.com...]

No, Newt Is Not Going To Jail For Saying He Would Appoint John Bolton

The clause that spares Newt is “for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy.” As TPM reported, Bolton will not indicate if he would accept such a position, nor has he even endorsed a candidate.

Law professor Rick Hasen, author of the Election Law Blog agrees in a post at his blog: “I read this [clause] as requiring proof Gingrich said he would appoint Bolton for the purpose of getting Bolton’s support. More likely, Gingrich made the promise to gain support from voters.”

76 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 3:45:00pm
77 wrenchwench  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 3:45:15pm

re: #74 wozzablog

Hi Eeyore!

78 Kragar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 3:46:58pm

re: #76 wozzablog

Spoil sport.

I'd rather nail him on his actual record than stupid crap. I leave that sort of stuff to Republicans.

79 darthstar  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 3:51:28pm

re: #75 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

No, Newt Is Not Going To Jail For Saying He Would Appoint John Bolton

But he would go to hell...if it existed.

80 JRCMYP  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 4:52:19pm

Going for broke. Looks like Newt and Perry are angling for the hard right wing nutter demographic.

81 CriticalDragon1177  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 5:29:07pm

Charles Johnson,

Looks like Newt doesn't want to risk ruining what is left of his reputation.

82 CriticalDragon1177  Wed, Dec 7, 2011 5:30:25pm

re: #80 JRCMYP

Except he decided against speaking at the event at the last minute. Maybe he's beginning to realize that it might not be in his long term interest to be associated with these people.


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