Rick Perry: We Need a Constitutional Amendment to Allow Prayer in Schools

American theocracy

WingnutsDecember 2011 • Views: 27,748

Rick Perry told Fox News’s Chris Wallace this morning that if he’s elected President, one of his priorities will be a constitutional amendment “allowing our children to pray in school.”

What a pile of disingenuous rubbish. It’s utterly false that children are banned from praying in public schools; nobody stops children from praying on their own time. They simply are not required to pray — but make no mistake, forcing all children to recite Christian prayers is exactly what Rick Perry wants.

This is American theocracy in the making, folks. And Rick Perry is not alone; the Republican Party is totally in thrall to this kind of Dark Ages thinking.

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Holidays are Family Fun Time Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:44:56am

WHY?

erik_t Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:45:22am

Thank God Rick Perry doesn't actually understand the process of amending the Constitution.

albusteve Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:45:41am

re: #1 ggt

WHY?

it's god's will

Holidays are Family Fun Time Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:46:13am

re: #3 albusteve

it's god's will

PROVE IT!

jaunte Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:46:38am

Listening to the way Chris Wallace phrased his question, it's clear that he's participating in the outright lie that the Supreme Court somehow has "prevented" children from praying.

Obdicut Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:47:51am

Newt was the first to propose this idea, I think, long, long ago. Kind of explodes his intellectual credibility, when he fucks up so regularly about the basic structure of our government.

erik_t Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:48:14am

re: #5 jaunte

Since Chris Wallace is an insipid tool, this should come as no surprise.

Holidays are Family Fun Time Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:48:27am

re: #6 Obdicut

Newt was the first to propose this idea, I think, long, long ago. Kind of explodes his intellectual credibility, when he fucks up so regularly about the basic structure of our government.

How could he?

Didn't you know he is the Authority?

/gah

darthstar Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:48:27am

Rick Perry is doublin' down on Jesus...and he told Mitt Romney he wasn't a "bettin' man"...

If I was an Iowan, I'd be embarrassed by this strategy of stupidity Republicans think will work...though apparently, it does.

jaunte Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:48:35am

"Activist Judges!"

PhillyPretzel Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:48:59am

There is prayer in schools currently. It is finals season. Trust me everyone is praying./

darthstar Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:49:07am

re: #3 albusteve

it's god's will

Well, then god can etch it on the stone tablets with the rest of the constitution.

Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:50:06am

Time for a video of a bunch of Muslim children with prayer rugs in a US classroom (with visible American flag) peacefully praying.

Heads explode!

austin_blue Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:50:32am

OT: Perry's "Strong" is up to 605,000 downdings on You Tube.

As for this thread:

"Good mornings, children! Please open your Korans to Sura 127 and repeat after me..."

darthstar Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:51:10am

I prayed in school all the time...that the teacher wouldn't collect our homework...that I would pass a test even though I didn't study...and I went to Catholic school.

jaunte Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:51:16am

Why are the GOP so focused on solving nonexistent problems?

darthstar Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:52:33am

re: #16 jaunte

Why are the GOP so focused on solving nonexistent problems?

Because their non-existent magical friend tells them to.

austin_blue Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:52:46am

re: #16 jaunte

Why are the GOP so focused on solving nonexistent problems?

Thank you for that big fat softball:

Because they have no solutions for the real ones.

Stanghazi Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:53:14am

Remember, the Constitution is the one without the talking snake.

erik_t Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:53:21am

re: #16 jaunte

Why are the GOP so focused on solving nonexistent problems?

Big Government is the cause of all problems, therefore it cannot solve extant problems, therefore all proposals must solve nonexistent problems, as a solution to a nonexistent problem itself does not exist, therefore it cannot introduce a real problem.

QED.

Holidays are Family Fun Time Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:53:32am

re: #18 austin_blue

Thank you for that big fat softball:

Because they have no solutions for the real ones.

I think it's a red herring so they can disenfranchise a segment of the population, take all their stuff and remove competition.

Obdicut Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:53:38am

re: #16 jaunte

Why are the GOP so focused on solving nonexistent problems?

Nobody can tell when you fail.

jaunte Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:53:38am

We need to make it possible for millionaires to get off food stamps and pray in school again.

BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:53:49am

re: #10 jaunte

"Activist Judges!"

Perry promises to fire Activist Judges, as soon as he can remember their names.

Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:54:17am

re: #16 jaunte

Why are the GOP so focused on solving nonexistent problems?

To them (or at least partially perceived by the base) it *is* a root problem. In the culture war for America the key is to convert the children to your brand of Jesus as early as possible. Once you do that they will fall in line and the decadence of the adults will then die out as your young Christian Soldiers mature and finish taking control.

albusteve Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:55:29am

re: #16 jaunte

Why are the GOP so focused on solving nonexistent problems?

it's an unhealthy obsession...bots

Obdicut Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:56:16am

re: #25 oaktree

To them (or at least partially perceived by the base) it *is* a root problem. In the culture war for America the key is to convert the children to your brand of Jesus as early as possible. Once you do that they will fall in line and the decadence of the adults will then die out as your young Christian Soldiers mature and finish taking control.

Believing this, of course, involves carefully avoiding the fact that Evangelical Christians have very high rates of divorce and teenage pregnancy.

[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

darthstar Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:56:40am

re: #25 oaktree

Jesus is cool. And Mary wants to talk to you in your dreams.

erik_t Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:57:08am

re: #27 Obdicut

Unpleasant factoid rejected. God's Plan will prevail.

Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:57:19am

re: #27 Obdicut

Believing this, of course, involves carefully avoiding the fact that Evangelical Christians have very high rates of divorce and teenage pregnancy.

[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

You have to remember that Jesus never fails them, they just fail Jesus.

darthstar Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:57:50am

Jesus bling
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HappyWarrior Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:58:01am

Perry obviously never has been in school. By the way, Rick you can pray in school. You just can't force people to. There's a difference and and you know that.

Henchman Ghazi-808 Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:58:43am

re: #2 erik_t

Thank God Rick Perry doesn't actually understand the process of amending the Constitution.

He doesn't understand the difference between allowing prayer in schools and enforcing it.

Holidays are Family Fun Time Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:58:44am

re: #27 Obdicut

Believing this, of course, involves carefully avoiding the fact that Evangelical Christians have very high rates of divorce and teenage pregnancy.

[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

But that's the point. They do get married and they don't have abortions.

Don't you get it?

/gah

Locker Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:59:04am

re: #13 oaktree

Time for a video of a bunch of Muslim children with prayer rugs in a US classroom (with visible American flag) peacefully praying.

Heads explode!

This, is a fantastic idea. Make one and we'll infect the internet.

darthstar Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:59:33am

re: #27 Obdicut

Believing this, of course, involves carefully avoiding the fact that Evangelical Christians have very high rates of divorce and teenage pregnancy.

[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

I went to a Baptist high school for a year...those girls did like to play. Just sayin'...

Holidays are Family Fun Time Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:59:42am

I'm getting too pissed.

Have a great afternoon all!

Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Dec 11, 2011 9:59:59am

re: #35 Locker

This, is a fantastic idea. Make one and we'll infect the internet.

One of a teacher run prayer to the FSM would probably go viral as well.

PhillyPretzel Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:00:16am

re: #37 ggt
Have a good afternoon

jaunte Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:01:22am

"Religious Freedom" or Hypocrisy?
By D.W. Steel, The Oxford Eagle, 7 March 1996:

This week the "school prayer case" opened in U.S. District Court in Oxford, Mississippi. This case marks a turning point for the Constitution and for the principles of liberty and tolerance that this country has always enshrined, though not always practiced. The efforts of the Pontotoc County Schools to maintain daily intercom devotionals, to teach a class with the Bible as the sole textbook, and to hold teacher/student prayer sessions in the school gym, fly in the face of law and the Constitution, make a mockery of Mississippi's own Christian traditions, and run counter to the ideal of giving parents primary responsibility for the religious and moral upbringing of their children.

More disturbing is the hypocritical, self-righteous tone of those who, trumpeting "religious freedom," attempt to impose their own brand of indoctrination on their neighbors' children. While enlisting the support of elected officials, these pharisaic demagogues are attempting to portray plaintiff Lisa Herdahl as an "outside agitator" for insisting on the rights that all Americans take for granted. These so-called leaders are succeeding only in bringing their own faith and their region into disrepute.
[Link: www.mcsr.olemiss.edu...]

darthstar Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:01:29am

re: #38 oaktree

One of a teacher run prayer to the FSM would probably go viral as well.

That would simply require a teacher in a pirate outfit getting a whole class of kids to say, "ARRR!"

Henchman Ghazi-808 Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:01:39am

re: #23 jaunte

We need to make it possible for millionaires to get off ~~food~~ foie gras stamps and pray in school again.

Obdicut Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:01:42am

Heh.

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darthstar Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:04:05am

re: #42 BigPapa

Sadly, foie gras won't be available in California soon.

Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:05:49am

re: #40 jaunte

"Religious Freedom" or Hypocrisy?
By D.W. Steel, The Oxford Eagle, 7 March 1996:

"These so-called leaders are succeeding only in bringing their own faith and their region into disrepute."

This is something I've noticed. I have become much more aware of public religious display and actually less trusting of those who are wearing their religion on their sleeves.

My weakness, but still something I've observed as the religious right drags the moderates down with them in a sort of guilt by association.

Henchman Ghazi-808 Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:06:44am

Every time I watch Rick Perry I think he's the greatest ever Team America: World Police candidate.

Trey Parker and Matt Stone should spoof the whole lot of 'em. Except they all really do say crazy shit, so they'd just have to quote them.

PhillyPretzel Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:07:40am

re: #42 BigPapa
Foie Gras for sale. These people will ship it.
[Link: www.dibruno.com...]

Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:09:24am

re: #46 BigPapa

Every time I watch Rick Perry I think he's the greatest ever Team America: World Police candidate.

Trey Parker and Matt Stone should spoof the whole lot of 'em. Except they all really do say crazy shit, so they'd just have to quote them.

I am beginning to think that Rick Perry ads are going to become the political equivalent of Rick Astley. So political ad links will go there in the future as a new variant of the Rickroll comes into play.

albusteve Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:09:29am

re: #47 PhillyPretzel

Foie Gras for sale. These people will ship it.
[Link: www.dibruno.com...]

a self indulgent waste of money..way over the top

Summer Seale Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:10:11am

It's such a shame that idiots like him have completely associated a Texan or Southern accent with ignorant fundamentalist views in the eyes of the world and even in the United States.

I don't have a Southern or Texan accent, but I can tell you that if I did, I'd be yelling at people like him at the top of my lungs to STFU for all the damage they've done already.

PhillyPretzel Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:10:18am

re: #49 albusteve
I agree. But some folks love this stuff.

Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:10:50am

re: #47 PhillyPretzel

Foie Gras for sale. These people will ship it.
[Link: www.dibruno.com...]

Christmas is coming and the goose is getting fat.
(We'll ship you the liver at a premium price!)

;)

Love Dibruno's though. Great place for cheese and some other goodies on short notice. I also get chicken pot pies from them for lunch every so often.

darthstar Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:11:12am

Apropos of nothing in particular, I was up past eleven thirty last night so I turned on SNL to see if I could stomach one of their skits. I lasted ten seconds. Some kind of recycled "Sprockets" skit only with a Japanese theme--pokemon pictures on the set, and lots of "ching chong chow" talk by the "actors"...when will NBC put that show in a burlap bag with a couple of rocks and throw it off a bridge into a river? Holy fuck that's some stupid shit.

PhillyPretzel Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:12:33am

re: #52 oaktree
I am not crazy about that stuff. I agree, they have great prepared foods and the cheese section is great.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:14:10am

No, what you need is a constitutional amendment against stupid.

PhillyPretzel Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:15:14am

re: #55 Sergey Romanov
That would be nice, but you can not constitutionally regulate intelligence.

Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:15:53am

re: #53 darthstar

Apropos of nothing in particular, I was up past eleven thirty last night so I turned on SNL to see if I could stomach one of their skits. I lasted ten seconds. Some kind of recycled "Sprockets" skit only with a Japanese theme--pokemon pictures on the set, and lots of "ching chong chow" talk by the "actors"...when will NBC put that show in a burlap bag with a couple of rocks and throw it off a bridge into a river? Holy fuck that's some stupid shit.

They have always been more miss than hit in my opinion, even in their so-called prime. And when their writing crew is bad the show is totally unwatchable.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:16:48am

re: #56 PhillyPretzel

That would be nice, but you can not constitutionally regulate intelligence.

YES WE CAN!

PhillyPretzel Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:17:25am

re: #58 Sergey Romanov
Oh?

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:17:33am

What a pile of disingenuous rubbish. It’s utterly false that children are banned from praying in public schools; nobody stops children from praying on their own time. They simply are not required to pray

This.

darthstar Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:17:42am

re: #51 PhillyPretzel

I agree. But some folks love this stuff.

I often order it when I see it on the menu. It really is quite tasty...but I've always liked liver, beef, chicken, deer, duck...(lived on calf liver in college when I was really poor...a one pound tub of beef liver was under a buck - with an onion and a potato I had a meal).

darthstar Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:19:10am

Okay...time to get off my ass and head up to the city for a swim, lunch with my sister, and probably some standing around time while she and my wife look at shit in the stores...I mean, do some holiday shopping.

Henchman Ghazi-808 Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:19:49am

I propose a constitutional amendment to protect prayer in school. Then I will defund the DEA. So if there's any school left, at least they'll be prayin.

He he (wink)

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:20:50am

re: #47 PhillyPretzel

Nothing makes food tastes better than torturing the animal first.

HAL2010 Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:21:23am

Rick "the Texan-Taliban" Perry

I propose that is his new name from now on.

Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:21:39am

Ron Paul makes the recommended list at Dkos....
Ron Paul's Eye-Opening Ad on our Wars. This Ad Needs to go Viral.

Armed Chinese Troops in Texas!

Youtube Video

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:22:37am

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jaunte Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:23:01am

@CuriousLurker:
Suggested headline: Perry Supports Constitutional Amendment Allowing Muslim, Pagan, Vodun Prayer in Schools. Then watch him weasel.

sattv4u2 Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:26:14am

re: #66 Killgore Trout

Ron Paul makes the recommended list at Dkos...
Ron Paul's Eye-Opening Ad on our Wars. This Ad Needs to go Viral.

Armed Chinese Troops in Texas!

[Video]

I'd settle for a good Chinese restaurant in Texas!!!

PhillyPretzel Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:26:25am

re: #68 jaunte
CL is correct. He would start to weasel.

Achilles Tang Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:26:25am

re: #13 oaktree

Time for a video of a bunch of Muslim children with prayer rugs in a US classroom (with visible American flag) peacefully praying.

Heads explode!

I'm amazed, not, that he didn't think of that possibility, nor that (since people like him think atheism is a religion) atheist might come up with something entertaining for all.

ElCapitanAmerica Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:26:30am

I used to pray in school all the time, and nobody arrested me, specially around finals.

Also, please keep in mind that I don't think most people who do really pray and mean it agree with Perry's nonsense.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:27:25am

re: #66 Killgore Trout

Heh, that's a bold ad for a "mainstream" candidate. If nothing else, Paul's got balls.

sattv4u2 Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:28:36am

re: #72 ElCapitanAmerica

I used to pray in school all the time, and nobody arrested me, specially around finals.

Also, please keep in mind that I don't think most people who do really pray (ME) and mean it (ME) agree with this nonsense (NOT ME ,,re: agree with this nonsense) .

Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:28:38am

re: #73 Sergey Romanov

Heh, that's a bold ad for a "mainstream" candidate. If nothing else, Paul's got balls.

Don't confuse gusty with crazy.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:29:07am

re: #75 Killgore Trout

I don't.

Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:29:17am

[Link: www.daylife.com...]

"Wanted for Mass Killing"

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:30:18am

re: #66 Killgore Trout

That's powerful. Helluva way to look at it, no?

sattv4u2 Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:30:59am

Ron Gronkowski is a MAN!!!

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:31:02am

re: #77 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.daylife.com...]

"Wanted for Mass Killing"

That, unfortunately, is exactly what this ad is talking about.

Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:31:08am

re: #68 jaunte

@CuriousLurker:
Suggested headline: Perry Supports Constitutional Amendment Allowing Muslim, Pagan, Vodun Prayer in Schools. Then watch him weasel.

That would be the killer question in a GOP debate. Which we know means it will never be uttered by a moderator there.

(Hmm, which of course if it is avoided now would make it horribly effective for Obama to get included in a debate during the general election.)

albusteve Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:34:17am

re: #66 Killgore Trout

Ron Paul makes the recommended list at Dkos...
Ron Paul's Eye-Opening Ad on our Wars. This Ad Needs to go Viral.

Armed Chinese Troops in Texas!

[Video]

comedy...the guy is out of control

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:40:37am

Paul's point about getting rid of the bases etc. is, of course, unrealistic. But looking through the eyes of the people under military occupation/control has never been a strong suit of rah-rah patriots of any country. So that part is valuable, even if it comes from a rotten source.

Achilles Tang Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:59:37am

re: #66 Killgore Trout

Ron Paul makes the recommended list at Dkos...
Ron Paul's Eye-Opening Ad on our Wars. This Ad Needs to go Viral.

Armed Chinese Troops in Texas!

[Video]

I could say a lot more, but ignorant-stupid works.

Ron Paul actually has a lot in common with China and Russia as far a foreign policy goes, and I hope I don't have to explain how that is.

Eclectic Infidel Sun, Dec 11, 2011 11:03:08am

Attack of the Derp.

austin_blue Sun, Dec 11, 2011 11:59:31am

re: #48 oaktree

I am beginning to think that Rick Perry ads are going to become the political equivalent of Rick Astley. So political ad links will go there in the future as a new variant of the Rickroll comes into play.

[Link: funstoo.blogspot.com...]

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 11, 2011 12:16:39pm

re: #84 Naso Tang

I could say a lot more, but ignorant-stupid works.

Ron Paul actually has a lot in common with China and Russia as far a foreign policy goes, and I hope I don't have to explain how that is.

The point is not whether there is equivalency, but whether Iraqis or Pakistanis should have a perception of the US as "liberators" and thus should not complain when the US military has another regular 'mistake'. I'm afraid you can't demand this of them.

sagehen Sun, Dec 11, 2011 1:04:18pm

so do we have a running tally of how many ways these Constitution fetishists want to change the Consitution?

Amendments they'd like to add:

personhood of embryos
ban on flag-burning
definition of marriage
school prayer

Amendments they'd like to toss

the 14th
the 17th

I'm sure there's been more, but I'm having a senior moment. Anybody?

HouseTleilaxu Sun, Dec 11, 2011 1:22:39pm

re: #88 sagehen

That's because they want to preserve the America the Founders wanted, and love the Constitution so much that they want to scrap half of it and add a dozen major changes.

Incidentally, do you think they even know the process to amend the Constitution? They seem to think that the President can just do it on a whim and forget that they need to 75% of the state legislatures to ratify them...

sagehen Sun, Dec 11, 2011 1:34:28pm

re: #53 darthstar

Apropos of nothing in particular, I was up past eleven thirty last night so I turned on SNL to see if I could stomach one of their skits. I lasted ten seconds. Some kind of recycled "Sprockets" skit only with a Japanese theme--pokemon pictures on the set, and lots of "ching chong chow" talk by the "actors"...when will NBC put that show in a burlap bag with a couple of rocks and throw it off a bridge into a river? Holy fuck that's some stupid shit.

on Hulu, you have a choice of watching SNL in whole episodes or chopped into parts. I usually just grab the opener, Weekend Update, and maybe the musical guest. I'm happier that way.

SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Dec 11, 2011 4:44:10pm

re: #14 austin_blue

OT: Perry's "Strong" is up to 605,000 downdings on You Tube.

As for this thread:

"Good mornings, children! Please open your Korans to Sura 127 and repeat after me..."

There are only 114 Surahs.

wheat-dogghazi Mon, Dec 12, 2011 6:02:52am

What would Perry do if someone called Azan over the school PA system?

Allaahu Akbar
Ash'hadu an laa ilaaha illallaah (x2).
Ash'hadu anna Muhammadan-rasulullaah (x2).
Haya 'alas-salaah (x2).
Haya 'alal falaah (x2).
Allaahu Akbar (x2)
Laa ilaaha illallaah.

Probably just before lunchtime ...

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