NY Times Finally Picks Up on Ron Paul’s Incendiary Racist Newsletters

Welcome to the party pal!

The New York Times has gotten around to reporting on Ron Paul’s political newsletters that contained numerous racist, anti-gay and anti-Israel passages. These are newsletters that are well known to LGF readers, but it’s well past time for the Times to report on these newsletters.

The latest issue of The Weekly Standard, a leading conservative publication, reprised reports of incendiary language in Mr. Paul’s newsletters that were published about 20 years ago.

A 1992 passage from the Ron Paul Political Report about the Los Angeles riots read, ‘Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks.’ A passage in another newsletter asserted that people with AIDS should not be allowed to eat in restaurants because ‘AIDS can be transmitted by saliva’; in 1990 one of his publications criticized Ronald Reagan for having gone along with the creation of the federal holiday honoring the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., which it called ‘Hate Whitey Day.’

The magazine article largely matched a similar report in The New Republic in 2008, and it was written by the same author, James Kirchick. The passages were plucked from a variety of newsletters that Mr. Paul’s consulting business published during his years out of Congress, all of them featuring his name: Ron Paul Political Report, Ron Paul’s Freedom Report, Ron Paul Survival Report and Ron Paul Investment Letter.

Mr. Paul did not respond to an interview request, but repudiated the writings in 2008. Likening himself to a major news publisher, he said he did not vet every article that was featured in his newsletters. ‘I absolutely, honestly do not know who wrote those things,’ Mr. Paul said in an interview on CNN at the time, adding that he did not monitor the publications closely because he was busy with a medical practice and ‘speeches around the country.’

Despite his protestations to the contrary, Paul was on the letterhead as editor and is responsible for what is put into his newsletters under his name. He had no problem with running these stories, and never issued corrections until confronted with the issue back in 2008, years after they ran.

Paul continues trying to run away from his newsletters, but they keep catching up to him — as they rightfully should.

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113 comments
1 nines09  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:02:10am

Not knowing about this shows you how far removed from reality our “news services” are. Crack reporting or reporters on crack? You decide, we spin. Sort of like walking into a room carpeted in bubble wrap in total darkness and wondering who’s throwing firecrackers outside.

2 jamesfirecat  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:07:27am

” ‘AIDS can be transmitted by saliva’; ”
To pharaphrase he worse Jon Stewart about a similar bit of epic fail “I’d laugh, but I’d need to rig up a plastic bag to contain all the spittle first.”

3 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:09:50am

Obviously, the left wing media machine is just muck raking because Paul is in the lead.

///

4 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:15:30am

Thanks for the promotion Charles; twice in a week at that!

Note how Paul is responding too. As Locker notes in his page, Paul’s saying people are calling him racist because his policies are winning.

5 Alexzander  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:16:42am

re: #2 jamesfirecat

” ‘AIDS can be transmitted by saliva’; ”
To pharaphrase he worse Jon Stewart about a similar bit of epic fail “I’d laugh, but I’d need to rig up a plastic bag to contain all the spittle first.”

The probability approaches zero given the low viral load in saliva, but it is not impossible and has happened before.

6 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:17:00am

So, the GOP walks out of the vote about tax cuts, but they made sure we got a statue.

While House Republicans couldn’t get their act together to approve an extension of the payroll tax holiday and unemployment benefits last night, they were able to do something far more frivolousness — commission a bust of former British Prime Minister Winston Churchill to be placed in the Capitol. The House “adjourned moments after” passing the bill

7 Alexzander  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:18:51am

I expect to hear a lot more about these newsletters (and Iran and 911) now that Ron Paul has moved into the lead in Iowa and is picking up the once again defected anti-Romney vote. I’m sure some republican bigwigs are flipping their shit right now, as Paul is perfectly timed to peak around the Iowa caucus.

8 Charles Johnson  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:20:02am

On this subject, another must-read: Ron Paul’s Shaggy Defense - Ta-Nehisi Coates.

9 Tumulus11  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:22:28am

. Ron Paul was happy to bank millions in subscriptions from mouthbreathers while cheerleading for a ‘race war’. Now it’s coming back to bite him.

‘Racial apocalypse was the most persistent theme of the newsletters; a 1990 issue warned of “The Coming Race War,” and an article the following year about disturbances in the Adams Morgan neighborhood of Washington, D.C., was entitled “Animals Take Over the D.C. Zoo.’
…..
‘Yet a subsequent report by Reason found that Ron Paul & Associates, the defunct company that published the newsletters and which counted Paul and his wife as officers, reported an income of nearly $1 million in 1993 alone. If this figure is reliable, Paul must have earned multiple millions of dollars over the two decades plus of the newsletters’ existence. It is incredible that he had less than an active interest in what was being printed as part of a subscription newsletter enterprise that earned him and his family millions of dollars.’
// Weekly Standard

10 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:25:16am

re: #5 Alexzander

The probability approaches zero given the low viral load in saliva, but it is not impossible and has happened before.

I assume, however, not from eating in a restaurant with someone who’s infected? Unless they first stab both of you with their fork.

11 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:26:22am

re: #8 Charles

On this subject, another must-read: Ron Paul’s Shaggy Defense - Ta-Nehisi Coates.

Oh, cool. I like Coates.

12 jamesfirecat  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:26:41am

re: #5 Alexzander

The probability approaches zero given the low viral load in saliva, but it is not impossible and has happened before.

Really? Find me an example of someone who got HIV through Saliva….

13 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:28:01am

re: #12 jamesfirecat

Really? Find me an example of someone who got HIV through Saliva…

I knew ookie mouth was a bad idea.

14 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:30:42am

re: #12 jamesfirecat

Really? Find me an example of someone who got HIV through Saliva…

It is extremely easy to find websites that will explain to you the real cause of aids.

15 Alexzander  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:31:06am

re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist

I assume, however, not from eating in a restaurant with someone who’s infected? Unless they first stab both of you with their fork.

Yeah not from eating at a resuurant. The one case I can think of off the top of my head was a HIV+ mother who infected her very young children by pre-chewing their food. Ugh. Usually that kind of transmission requires some open mouth sores or micro-cuts.

16 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:32:09am

re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist

I assume, however, not from eating in a restaurant with someone who’s infected? Unless they first stab both of you with their fork.

they stab you and then rape you!

Rapey stabbers!1!

17 Alexzander  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:32:38am

re: #12 jamesfirecat

Really? Find me an example of someone who got HIV through Saliva…

[Link: www.medpagetoday.com…]

18 aagcobb  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:33:46am

Gingrich’s numbers are being pulled down by the heavy fire he’s been taking as the frontrunner. Is there still time to take down Paul and recycle Perry to the lead in Iowa? Yes there is!

19 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:33:56am

re: #17 Alexzander

[Link: www.medpagetoday.com…]

Interesting, and that’s a tricky one, because a doctor from a cultural background where that’s not done might never think to mention it.

20 Alexzander  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:34:41am

I remember when I was working in an infectious disease clinic, a women called up once to say that a homeless man spat in her eye. Double ugh.

21 Renaissance_Man  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:35:25am

re: #17 Alexzander

[Link: www.medpagetoday.com…]

But those cases involve open bleeding in the mouth of one or both people, rather than just saliva.

22 jamesfirecat  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:35:25am

re: #17 Alexzander

[Link: www.medpagetoday.com…]

“The researchers said that in two cases, the caregiver was known to have had bleeding gums or sores in the mouth at the time she was pre-chewing food for the baby. The third caregiver could not remember such lesions. “

That sounds like in two cases at the very least (and possibly the third without remembering it) it was the blood that passed HIV along not Salvia.

23 Alexzander  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:35:44am

re: #18 aagcobb

Gingrich’s numbers are being pulled down by the heavy fire he’s been taking as the frontrunner. Is there still time to take down Paul and recycle Perry to the lead in Iowa? Yes there is!

This is was I’ve suspected will happen all along. Perry was the only real challenger to Romney and I think he could still swing out in front again.

24 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:36:25am

Romney attacks Biden for having the same opinion as Romney’s own adviser

Of course, the right wing ignored everything Biden had said and focused on the “Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy” line. Mitt Romney was particularly perturbed, tweeting that the comment is “an outrageous affront to our troops carrying out the fight in Afghanistan.” His campaign also released a statement, saying that Biden and President Obama “must immediately explain themselves.”

But as the Washington Monthly’s Steve Benen points out, Romney may have to have a little chat with his top adviser on Afghanistan, who has endorsed the same policy Biden laid out with Newsweek:

25 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:36:36am

Personally? I’m looking at Andrew Sullivan, who endorsed this prick for the R primaries. Put up or shut up, Andrew.

26 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:38:58am

re: #23 Alexzander

This is was I’ve suspected will happen all along. Perry was the only real challenger to Romney and I think he could still swing out in front again.

“GRRR! MONGO TAKE GOP LEAD! MONGO STRONG! MONGO LOVE JESUS!” - Rick Perry

27 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:39:25am

1. Steroids

2. Bad stuff in the enviroment

3. Immorality

4. AZT (Yes, seriously)

5. Voodoo curses

6. Bad psychology

28 aagcobb  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:40:23am

re: #23 Alexzander

This is was I’ve suspected will happen all along. Perry was the only real challenger to Romney and I think he could still swing out in front again.

Nate Silver at his fivethirtyeight blog currently gives Perry a 7% chance of winning Iowa. I expect that number to move up rapidly over the next two weeks. Perry has a lot of money with which to tell Iowans how much he hates gays and loves Jesus.

29 jamesfirecat  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:40:53am

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

“GRRR! MONGO TAKE GOP LEAD! MONGO STRONG! MONGO LOVE JESUS!” - Rick Perry

You forgot the most important part,
MONGO STRAIGHT!

30 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:41:03am

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

“GRRR! MONGO TAKE GOP LEAD! MONGO STRONG! MONGO LOVE JESUS!” - Rick Perry

Don’t insult Mongo. He’s a kind-hearted genius compared to Dick Perry.

31 Petero1818  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:41:47am

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So, the GOP walks out of the vote about tax cuts, but they made sure we got a statue.

Look, When you are in government you need to prioritize. There are only so many hours in a day, and surely they cannot be expected to work more than 3 of them.

32 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:42:16am

re: #30 Sergey Romanov

Don’t insult Mongo. He’s a kind-hearted genius compared to Dick Perry.

My sincerest apologies to Mongo and the extended Mongo family.

33 Alexzander  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:43:34am

A reference to LGF on RedState, in a thread about Ron Paul and 911-troofer-ism.

[Link: www.redstate.com…]

Apparently LGF is “one order of magnitude less annoying ” than an Alex Jones link.
Worst.complement.ever.

34 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:43:56am

re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My sincerest apologies to Mongo and the extended Mongo family.

OK, I’m about to exhibit my stunning cultural ignorance. I’ve seen so many references to Mongo. Who the hell is Mongo?

35 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:44:28am

re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I’m about to exhibit my stunning cultural ignorance. I’ve seen so many references to Mongo. Who the hell is Mongo?

That’s deliberate, right? There’s a catch somewhere?

36 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:45:00am

re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I’m about to exhibit my stunning cultural ignorance. I’ve seen so many references to Mongo. Who the hell is Mongo?

37 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:45:27am

re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I’m about to exhibit my stunning cultural ignorance. I’ve seen so many references to Mongo. Who the hell is Mongo?

38 Alexzander  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:46:22am

Ditto for never having heard of mongo before.

39 jamesfirecat  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:46:49am

re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I’m about to exhibit my stunning cultural ignorance. I’ve seen so many references to Mongo. Who the hell is Mongo?

Mongo ain’t exactly a “who” He’s more of a “what”

40 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:47:00am

re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist

Mongo is a pawn in game of life.

(but to answer your question, he’s the heavy played by Alex Karras in Mel Brooks’ Blazing Saddles)

41 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:48:05am

Is “Blazing Saddles” available on Blu Ray?

42 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:48:30am

From the comments on the Ta-Nehisi Coates piece Charles linked above:

Occam’s Racist: The notion that when confronted with multiple competing hypotheses for why a person published dozens of overtly racist newsletters over several years, the simplest and best explanation is that they are actually a racist.

43 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:49:14am

this sort of denial is consistent with the modern Ron Paul /Republican/ Libertarian philosophy that allows for a not-so benign neglect to occur in regards to human rights and civil rights..

Included this philosophy is the belief that it is up to faith in the “Free Market” to determine what sort of civil rights exist. Everything on Earth is supposed to be privately-owned and owners should have the right to deny entry or services to anyone they wish based on any criteria they choose.

Libertarian/Ron Paul philosophy promises an efficient Utopia of Freedom but in actuality delivers a society more in line with Afghanistan or Somalia where dogma and thugs control society rather than progressive Western-based Law. it guarantees a third-world living standard (see 1850’s America for example).

It is interesting to note that the main proponents of Ron Paul ?Republican Libertarianism are almost always majority Whites, and not any significant minority populations…. it is no secret that when allowed to, majorities around the world will exert unfair conditions and eventual violence upon minorities. We’ve been through this before here in America. We fought long and hard to void it with various civil rights movements. We must not let the thugs and fantasy-based Utopianists win.

44 Alexzander  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:49:27am

I started watching a good documentary last night called “Reel Injun” about the historic representation of first nations/natives in North American film. I think I might finish it right now actually.

45 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:49:27am

re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

[Video]

That damn movie. I have to see that damn movie.

46 researchok  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:49:56am

Ron Paul is a lot like David Duke- ‘I would never encourage hate or violence’.

Yeah.

47 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:50:13am

re: #40 lawhawk

Mongo is a pawn in game of life.

(but to answer your question, he’s the heavy played by Alex Karras in Mel Brooks’ Blazing Saddles)

Thank you, all.

48 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:50:30am

re: #41 Alouette

Is “Blazing Saddles” available on Blu Ray?

Judging by this description from The Pirate Bay…

 Blazing.Saddles.1974.720p.BluRay.x264-CHD

Format : mkv
Runtime : 93 min
Director : Mel Brooks
Genre : Comedy | Western
Video : 1280×538 | x264 | 6081 kbps
Audio : English | AC3 5.1 | 640 kbps

apparently so.

49 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:50:44am

re: #41 Alouette

It is, but I don’t think that would add anything to the experience. I don’t think they’ve added additional content making it worth the added cost versus the DVD (30th anniversary version).

50 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:50:56am

re: #45 SanFranciscoZionist

That damn movie. I have to see that damn movie.

You seem to be suggesting that you’ve never seen that movie, but that is impossible. Such an unlikely event is beyond human comprehension.

51 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:52:25am

re: #45 SanFranciscoZionist

That damn movie. I have to see that damn movie.

The situation when a Russian citizen has watched at least one more American classic than you is unbearable! Somewhere a puppy has died :(

52 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:52:34am

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You seem to be suggesting that you’ve never seen that movie, but that is impossible. Such an unlikely event is beyond human comprehension.

I had a deprived childhood.

53 Robert O.  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:52:46am

None of this material should be surprising for anyone with even an iota of familiarity with the “libertarian” movement. The calls for “States’ Rights”, “Constitutionalism”, “Libertarianism” are merely code words for supporting Slavery (i.e., leaving it to the States), supporting segregation, racial discrimination, religious discrimination, gender discrimination, and discrimination based on sexual orientation. It has long been established that white Supremacists / neo-Nazis are some of Ron Paul’s most enthusiastic supporters. And then, there is the conspiracy brigade (see 9/11 deniers), the survivalists and other unhinged folks who love the anarchism Ron Paul represents. A truly wonderful group of people…

54 recusancy  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:53:14am

re: #48 Sergey Romanov

Judging by this description from The Pirate Bay…

apparently so.

If SOPA passes LGF would be taken down because you posted that.

55 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:53:53am

re: #54 recusancy

If SOPA passes LGF would be taken down because you posted that.

No, because I didn’t post any links.

56 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:54:35am

re: #48 Sergey Romanov

Judging by this description from The Pirate Bay…

apparently so.

I had it on regular DVD but one of my sons looted it, along with my DVD of “The Big Lebowski.” I understand they have just come out with a remastered Blu-Ray version of “Lebowski” which I must get (even if it means my kids looting it, at least they would have to visit!)

57 Petero1818  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:54:46am

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

I had a deprived childhood.

Fair enough, but the Talmud speaks quite clearly about our sincere obligation not only to see every Mel Brooks movie, but to be able to recite lengthy passages from them as well.

58 aagcobb  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:55:05am

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

I had a deprived childhood.

Next thing you know, you’re going to tell us you haven’t seen Young Frankenstein or The Producers (the original with Zero Mostel).

59 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:55:33am

Buchanan worries White Christian America will be replaced by egalitarian society

Wildmon: Why do these folks have such hostility for our traditions and for the Christian religion? Where does this come from?

Buchanan: Well I think it certainly flourished in the 1960s on the campuses, around the mid-1960s, and the ground had been prepared by many in the faculty. The basic feeling on a part of a lot of these people is that the old traditionalist America was racist, bigoted, sexist, imperialist, colonialist, homophobic and every other adjective you can think of, and they look upon that past with detestation. They want to change and alter what was a sort of, basically a Western Christian country, part of the West, part of European civilization, and they want to put an end to that. They want to create a new nation that is of all the races, cultures, creeds of every continent and country on earth and an egalitarian society, and frankly a country that has never before existed. They want to convert America into a monstrous replica of the United Nations General Assembly where everyone is equal in every way, and it’s a utopian idea and I think that it is incompatible with the existence of the country we grew up in. That is what is happening, but there is a deep, ingrained hostility of the country that we were raised in for the reasons that I mentioned.

“All men are created equal? Who came up with that crap?” - Pat Buchanan

60 recusancy  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:56:16am

re: #55 Sergey Romanov

No, because I didn’t post any links.

Ah. Well if you did… Either way, I’m curious why stuff like SOPA and PIPA don’t get discussed here.

61 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:56:26am

re: #57 Petero1818

Fair enough, but the Talmud speaks quite clearly about our sincere obligation not only to see every Mel Brooks movie, but to be able to recite lengthy passages from them as well.

Indeed, but “The Big Lebowski” is for the truly pious.

62 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:56:33am

re: #30 Sergey Romanov

Don’t insult Mongo. He’s a kind-hearted genius compared to Dick Perry.

Mongo but a pawn in game of life.

63 Petero1818  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:56:59am

re: #61 Alouette

Indeed, but “The Big Lebowski” is for the truly pious.

Its only for those of us who refuse to roll on shabbas.

64 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:58:00am

re: #60 recusancy

Ah. Well if you did… Either way, I’m curious why stuff like SOPA and PIPA don’t get discussed here.

Actually they were discussed, in a separate page. Make another page, and we’ll discuss it too.

65 engineer cat  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:58:25am

re: #62 RayFerd

Mongo but a pawn in game of life.

i’m just a prawn in the game of life

and keep that cocktail sauce away from me

66 allegro  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:59:06am

re: #57 Petero1818

Fair enough, but the Talmud speaks quite clearly about our sincere obligation not only to see every Mel Brooks movie, but to be able to recite lengthy passages from them as well.

I can recite the entire dialogue of one of them. “Non!”

Also the only word ever spoken publicly by Marcel Marceau.

67 recusancy  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:59:23am

re: #64 Sergey Romanov

Actually they were discussed, in a separate page. Make another page, and we’ll discuss it too.

Oh. I guess I never look at the user pages.

68 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 11:59:34am

re: #58 aagcobb

Next thing you know, you’re going to tell us you haven’t seen Young Frankenstein or The Producers (the original with Zero Mostel).

I HAVE seen The Producers.

69 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:00:16pm

re: #46 researchok

Ron Paul is a lot like David Duke- ‘I would never encourage hate or violence’.

Yeah.

Flashback:

Ron Paul’s Photo-Op with Stormfront

70 aagcobb  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:00:26pm

re: #68 SanFranciscoZionist

I HAVE seen The Producers.

Do you mean you haven’t seen Young Frankenstein!

71 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:00:32pm

Ah, I see Sully actually made a defense of Paul:

This issue comes up again and again. Paul has taken two stands on it: the first was to take formal responsibility, even though he claims he didn’t know about the contents; the second was to insist he didn’t write them or know who did. Some of his early responses cited by TNC do seem defensive and cranky. But the notion that he has been actively seeking victimology in all this or that he is defined by these isues seems unfair to me. I think the papers (and comments almost two decades ago) should definitely be considered, in context, when judging his candidacy, and not because the neocons are determined to smear anyone challenging their catastrophic record. But compared with Rick Perry’s open bigotry in his ads, or Bachmann’s desire to “cure” gays, or the rhetoric around “illegals” in this campaign, these ugly newsletters are very, very old news. To infer from them that Paul is a big racist is a huge subjective leap I leave to others more clairvoyant than myself.

But ask yourself: you’ve now heard this guy countless times; he’s been in three presidential campaigns; he’s not exactly known for self-editing. And nothing like this has ever crossed his lips in public. You have to make a call on character. Compared with the rest on offer, compared with the money-grubbing lobbyist, Gingrich, or the say-anything Romney, or that hate-anyone Bachmann, I’ve made my call.

I see only one good point here: most of the rest of the candidates are no less bigoted than Paul. (That shouldn’t let Paul off the hook, though.)

72 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:00:36pm

The only desktop wallpaper you will ever need:

Image: The_Dude.jpg

73 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:01:10pm

re: #68 SanFranciscoZionist

I HAVE seen The Producers.

The Zero Mostel/Gene Wilder version is vastly superior to the Nathan Lane/Matthew Broderick musical version.

74 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:01:16pm

re: #70 aagcobb

Do you mean you haven’t seen Young Frankenstein!

PUDIN ONDA WITZ!

75 Petero1818  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:02:01pm

re: #68 SanFranciscoZionist

I HAVE seen The Producers.

Oy Vey. The Producers from his Gentile years. That’s akin to “the only Dylan album I have ever listened to is Saved”. //

76 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:02:35pm

Did anyone see “The Twelve Chairs”?

77 aagcobb  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:02:53pm

re: #74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

youtube

78 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:03:17pm

re: #76 Alouette

Did anyone see “The Twelve Chairs”?

As someone who loves the two Soviet renditions, I tried to take a look… Well, it’s not that good in comparison.

79 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:03:39pm

Did Mel Brooks ever make a movie that wasn’t totally awesome?

80 jamesfirecat  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:03:50pm

re: #73 Alouette

The Zero Mostel/Gene Wilder version is vastly superior to the Nathan Lane/Matthew Broderick musical version.

Why do you feel its supperior?

(Asked from a purely non comittial can’t figure out which movie I enjoy more point of view)

81 aagcobb  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:04:45pm

re: #80 jamesfirecat

Why do you feel its supperior?

(Asked from a purely non comittial can’t figure out which movie I enjoy more point of view)

It has Zero Mostel! I like Nathan Lane, but come on!

82 engineer cat  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:04:54pm

“Acting like everyone who’s been successful is bad and because you’re rich you’re bad, I don’t understand it,” the JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM) CEO told an audience member who asked about hostility toward bankers.

so let me get this straight: you are the CEO of JPMorgan Chase, but you are incapable of wrapping your mind around recent criticisms of wall st and its role in the economic meltdown, and all you hear is “everyone who’s been successful is bad”

i’m so impressed by your ability to ingest and synthesize complex information

83 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:04:55pm

re: #80 jamesfirecat

Why do you feel its supperior?

(Asked from a purely non comittial can’t figure out which movie I enjoy more point of view)

Apart from having Zero Mostel?

84 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:05:47pm

re: #79 Alouette

Did Mel Brooks ever make a movie that wasn’t totally awesome?

Dracula: Dead and Loving It

85 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:06:03pm

re: #70 aagcobb

Do you mean you haven’t seen Young Frankenstein!

(Eyes get shifty and panicked.)

86 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:06:16pm

re: #71 Sergey Romanov

Ah, I see Sully actually made a defense of Paul:

I see only one good point here: most of the rest of the candidates are no less bigoted than Paul. (That shouldn’t let Paul off the hook, though.)

Nor Sullivan.

87 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:07:51pm

re: #85 SanFranciscoZionist

(Eyes get shifty and panicked.)

Oh, you saw the Marty Feldman parts at least.

88 jamesfirecat  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:08:24pm

re: #84 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Dracula: Dead and Loving It

What’s wrong with Dracula Dead and loving it?

You are a man who likes to have the last word!

Wrong me, wrong me, wrong my brains out!

No wait, put him in a straightjacket and then give him an enema!

But Lucy I’m British… AND SO ARE THESE!

She’s dead enough…..

89 Petero1818  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:08:38pm

re: #79 Alouette

Did Mel Brooks ever make a movie that wasn’t totally awesome?

I would not have called “Robin Hood - Men in Tights” awesome, though it did have its redeeming moments.

90 jamesfirecat  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:10:13pm

re: #89 Petero1818

I would not have called “Robin Hood - Men in Tights” awesome, though it did have its redeeming moments.

“Aha right rope!”, “You’ve see the last of us!” and “We’re men, we’re men in tights, we roam around the forest looking for fights!” come quickly to mind. (I consider that movie awesome or at least hilarious)

91 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:10:27pm

re: #89 Petero1818

I would not have called “Robin Hood - Men in Tights” awesome, though it did have its redeeming moments.

Not a great movie, although I did once see several young men in tights perform the dance number at an SCA event. THAT was awesome.

92 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:10:27pm

re: #89 Petero1818

I would not have called “Robin Hood - Men in Tights” awesome, though it did have its redeeming moments.

I liked that movie. “To Be Or Not To Be” was kinda meh.

93 jamesfirecat  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:11:48pm

re: #92 Alouette

I liked that movie. “To Be Or Not To Be” was kinda meh.

I felt that was “meh” and also High Anxeity isn’t really my cup of tea, though maybe its because I haven’t seen enough Hitchcock movies…

94 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:12:21pm

re: #93 jamesfirecat

I felt that was “meh” and also High Anxeity isn’t really my cup of tea, though maybe its because I haven’t seen enough Hitchcock movies…

No fruit cup for you.

95 engineer cat  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:12:44pm

re: #92 Alouette

I liked that movie. “To Be Or Not To Be” was kinda meh.

the original ‘to be or not to be’ with jack benny and carol lombard is totally awesome, though…

96 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:14:33pm

Alex Jones’ prison planet claims that these latest regurgitations of the Paul racism claims are at the behest of none other than Newt, who supposedly sits on the Foundation for Defense of Democracies leadership council, where Kirchick works. /plans within plans

Oh, and the prison planet claims that the TNR story was thoroughly debunked, and that this is yet another manifestation of the power of the Israel lobby.

Yeah, funny how they work that in too.

97 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:15:03pm

Terri Garr singing “Roll! Roll! Roll in zee hay” remains one of my favorite scenes ever.

I don’t know why.

98 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:16:12pm

re: #95 engineer dog

the original ‘to be or not to be’ with jack benny and carol lombard is totally awesome, though…

I did not know there was an original!

99 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:16:44pm

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Terri Garr singing “Roll! Roll! Roll in zee hay” remains one of my favorite scenes ever.

I don’t know why.

No. Madeleine Kahn singing “I’m Tired”

100 allegro  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:17:00pm

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Terri Garr singing “Roll! Roll! Roll in zee hay” remains one of my favorite scenes ever.

I don’t know why.

I gotta give Madeleine Kahn those kudos with “Oh, great mysteries of life…”

101 engineer cat  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:17:59pm

re: #98 Alouette

I did not know there was an original!

[Link: www.imdb.com…]

“napoleon became a brandy, bismark became a herring, and ze fuhrer will end up as a piece of cheese”

102 Kragar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:18:04pm
103 BeenHereAwhile  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:21:11pm

re: #31 Petero1818

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

“So, the GOP walks out of the vote about tax cuts, but they made sure we got a statue.”

‘Look, When you are in government you need to prioritize. There are only so many hours in a day, and surely they cannot be expected to work more than 3 of them.’

It’s supposed to be a slap at Obama, as Obama is supposed to hate Churchhill; because Obama was really born in Kenya, and hates all colonialists.

//

104 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:22:53pm

Ron Paul’s Shocking Statements On CNN 1-10-08

Parts 1 and 2

105 William of Orange  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:24:48pm

Sad news today. Another filmstar died. This time it’s Ursus the bear who had a starring role in Jean Jeaques Annaud’s “The Bear”. Ursus died in a Dutch wildlife park in the city of Emmen at the age of 23.

106 Ming  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:48:50pm

re: #69 NJDhockeyfan

Flashback:

Ron Paul’s Photo-Op with Stormfront

WOW! I had no idea Ron Paul was so tight with Stormfront, as recently as 2007! Thanks to Charles for that post a few years ago. I had no idea.

It’s hard to be sure, but from looking at the photos, Ron Paul seems perfectly comfortable with his, er, neo-Nazi companions.

I’m not aware that Ron Paul has, or is, apologizing profusely for his ill-considered past associations. Even if I wanted to bend over backwards to give him the benefit of the doubt, in the absence of such apologies I must conclude the worst about him, in regards to racism and anti-Semitism.

We’re definitely in Pat Buchannan territory here.

107 darthstar  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:52:29pm

It sucks to be a front-runner.

108 Ming  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:54:43pm

re: #25 Sergey Romanov

Personally? I’m looking at Andrew Sullivan, who endorsed this prick for the R primaries. Put up or shut up, Andrew.

I have a lot of respect for Mr. Sullivan, and I enjoy his blog very much. Unfortunately, in the case of his endorsing Ron Paul, I’m inclined to conclude that this was influenced by Mr. Sullivan’s feelings about Israel. Mr. Sullivan is entitled to his feelings, and I happen to agree with many (not all) of his criticisms of Israel. But it seems that quite often, when he blogs about Israel, his language is intensely emotional. It’s fascinating to see Sullivan’s eloquence used to channel such plaintive emotion, which generally comes down begging someone, anyone, to wake up and cut American aid to Israel. Therefore, I’m not really surprised to see his endorsement of Ron Paul. If there’s one thing Ron Paul wants to do as President, it’s to weaken America’s relationship with Israel.

109 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:58:11pm

re: #106 Ming

American Thinker had much more on Ron Paul’s ties to Neo-Nazis back then…


The Ron Paul Campaign and its Neo-Nazi Supporters

I’m curious as to why this hasn’t been brought up in the MSM lately.

110 Talking Point Detective  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 12:59:40pm

Don’t forget about this one:

Ron Paul: Korea Conflict May Be Orchestrated Crisis To Boost Dollar:

[…]

Speaking to the Alex Jones Show, Congressman Paul said it was frightening that people in the Obama administration were advocating war as a means of escaping the economic crisis, saying that North Korea stood no chance whatsoever of successfully defeating South Korea in any conflict.

Paul speculated that the US military-industrial complex was, Doing it deliberately, and sort of orchestrating this in order to have the military-industrial complex benefit and the dollar temporarily benefit.

[…]

[Link: www.prisonplanet.com…]


Dude’s an A-one, top-shelf, certifiable, libertarian extremist lunatic. Perfect choice to be the Republican Party nominee.

111 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 1:08:39pm

From Ron Paul Forums…

URGENT! US HAS ATTACKED IRAN ! DAY OF INFAMY ! and also attacked SYRIA!

Yesterday, 7 Dec 2011, two military bases were attacked from the air by the US Air Force using 2 modified TRB-3s firing a magnetic blast from 180 miles up at these Iranian Military Bases.

These TRB-3s were launched out of Edwards Air Force Base earlier in the day and given the mission in flight.

All Iranian Personnel were killed, including Hassan Moghadam, head of the Iranian ICBM program. Over 400 ICBM’s were destroyed.

The state of Iran was at peace with the United States at the time. This was an unprovoked attack that has led to the deaths of hundred’s of both Iranians and Russian military personnel.

The attack was ordered by Leon Panetti.

This attack was an Act of War by the United States and it’s owners, the IMF (See 22USC286, 5USC105, Senate Report 93-549) located in London.

Last night forces paid by the IMF attacked the nation of Syria in an unprovoked attack killing Syrian Citizens and Syrian Military personnel.

To what extent the the Eastern Block will respond to this unprovoked attack remains to be seen.

Thus, in accordance with both International Law and UN regulations, a a State of War now exists between the United States & England against the rest of the 192 other states within the United Nations.

=====

Honorable Grace

Dr William B. Mount
Knight of Malta
Cpt (Ret) USA

LOL!

112 TedStriker  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 2:20:36pm

re: #45 SanFranciscoZionist

That damn movie. I have to see that damn movie.

You’ve never seen Blazing Saddles? For shame!

///

113 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Dec 20, 2011 7:19:19pm

re: #104 NJDhockeyfan

Ron Paul’s Shocking Statements On CNN 1-10-08

Parts 1 and 2

[Video]

Conservative confederate is conservative, and confederate.

There is nothing shocking about this, NJDhockeyfan.


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