MSNBC Headlines Gay Couple Kissing After Navy Deployment; Conservatives Go Nuts

Exposing the hate…

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This afternoon, MSNBC ran an above the fold photo showing a Navy sailor kissing her partner as the first sailor off their ship. That, by itself isn’t particularly newsworthy.

Petty Officer 2nd Class Marissa Gaeta, left, kisses her girlfriend of two years, Petty Officer 3rd Class Citlalic Snell, at Joint Expeditionary Base Little Creek in Virginia Beach on Wednesday, Dec. 22. It’s a tradition at Navy homecomings that one sailor is chosen by raffle to be first off the ship to kiss a loved one. Wednesday, for the first time, the reunited couple was same-sex.

Youtube Video

That both of the people involved in the kiss are women makes it noteworthy, and instead of honoring the service of the Petty Officer, Free Republic posters are showing their pettiness and vindictiveness, to say nothing of their anti-gay and anti-Obama sentiment. The comments are disgusting (and I’ve truncated for space):

First comment:
Awwww….isn’t that just precious?
(sickening sarcasm)

Second comment:
So it begins the total down hill turn for our nation and its military, glad I am out!

Down a bit:
Ok, well the US military it is no longer.
I’m, just going to go ahead and call it the US fagitary.
Nice going, president Ohomo.

This is the same forum that not long ago honored service in the military, and now they’re disparaging a sailor who happens to be a woman kissing her partner, who also happens to be a woman.

Moreover, some of the same people who are registering their disgust over the policy would also be among those who would have no problems if this was a scenario playing out in a porno film.

These critics need to get over themselves; women are in the military and they are doing a service to the nation that we are indebted. There are gays who serve in the military and can now serve without fear that they would have to give up their commissions because they are openly gay. They too are people to whom all Americans are indebted since they’re putting their lives on the line to protect the nation.

That someone who is a woman and happens to be gay is serving in the military should not be a shock, nor should a photo of their first kiss off the boat be cause for derision and anger.

UPDATE at 12/21/11 2:43:22 pm

Here’s another lovely comment on this subject, from a Sarah Posner post at Religion Dispatches:

God Is Not Mocked…..You Reap What You Sow…..
Posted by JLof on December 21, 2011 at 1:38 PM

“nothing but love and happiness…”

Probably the same kind of smug, God-hating, derisive mocking heard prior to God flooding the entire earth and killing almost every human and animal; and heard in Sodom and Gomorrah prior to those cities being wiped out. But, as Scripture says, God is NOT mocked. What is sown WILL be reaped….

John Lofton, Editor archive.theamericanview.com
johnlofton.com

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117 comments

God of Binders with Women Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:08:35pm

That's the Christmas spirit, Freepers!!!
///assholes

William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:14:48pm

A good thing I heard the other day - PINO Patriots In Name Only - describes this perfectly.

Daniel Ballard Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:15:03pm

Note to myself (present company excepted of course!!)
Never ever go into the comments at these blogs.

engineer cat Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:15:34pm

Conservatives Go Nuts

but they're already nuts

Randall Gross Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:16:05pm

This is what happens when conservatives sit in front of computers too long -- it stresses them to the point of their bile ducts ossifying into a permanently open position - then just get stuck spewing bilious puke on the internet all day long, even at Christmas time. It's the modern version of that crabby old fart telling the neighborhood kids to get off his lawn.

Randall Gross Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:17:48pm

Btw: I thought the picture was great, it would be good for someone to insert it?

Targetpractice Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:18:29pm

That someone who is a woman and happens to be gay is serving in the military should not be a shock, nor should a photo of their first kiss off the boat be cause for derision and anger.

Indeed, they should not be...but they are. This truly is a sad, sorry commentary on this nation, that you cease being an honorable soldier in the eyes of some the moment your lifestyle gives them the willies.

elisabeth Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:20:40pm

We've come a long way from 1992 when I was discharged for having a relationship with another woman. Congrats to these two and to all the LGBT men and women openly serving.

Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:21:13pm

Thanos, Here you go.

(Photo Courtesy MSNBC)

Image: 111221-navy-homecoming-kiss-hmed-12p.grid-6x2.jpg

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:21:36pm

it's so easy to blow the minds of the mindless

HAR HAR WE HAVE GAYED THE MILITARY NOW YOU MUST HIDE IN YOUR SHACK AND COLLECT BULLETS AND CONFEDERATE FLAGS

AMERICA IS TEH DOOMD

recusancy Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:21:45pm

How Gary Johnson Just Made Life Easier For Barack Obama

dragonfire1981 Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:21:45pm

I don't care who you are, where you came from or who you love.

If you wear that uniform, thank you.

Thank you for being brave and courageous.

Thank you for defending the freedoms we hold so dear.

And Thank you for being willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for all of us.

From my grandfather who served in World War II to my friends and acquaintances who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan to the cadets who have just started basic.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

God bless you all and God Bless America.

AK-47% Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:22:03pm

there is a mental link among these people between homophobia and patriotism.

The link is American Exceptionalism and Dominionism: they feel that if we are to be God's Own Country, our laws must reflect (their interpretation) of God's Laws.

They insist that allowing things like abortions, gays to serve in the military or marry, prostitution, drug use, progressive taxation, etc. is all an abandonment of (thier view of) Scripture and will lead to our losing favor in the eyes of God.

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:22:22pm

But they support the troops (as long as they are heterosexual white men).

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:23:27pm

re: #11 recusancy

How Gary Johnson Just Made Life Easier For Barack Obama

A third party candidate with a weirdly-shaped head making life easier for the democrat!

let's do the time warp again!

Gus Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:24:39pm

I'd like to hear the stories about what went on during shore leave in and around Subic Day back during the days of old. Or perhaps when they ventured into Thailand and into "Ladyboy" territory.

recusancy Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:24:55pm

re: #15 WindUpBird

A third party candidate with a weirdly-shaped head making life easier for the democrat!

let's do the time warp again!

What's weird about his head? Maybe the lack of eyebrows but his head seems normal.

William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:25:13pm

re: #8 elisabeth

We've come a long way from 1992 when I was discharged for having a relationship with another woman. Congrats to these two and to all the LGBT men and women openly serving.

As one vet to another, that was our military's loss. I am glad that stupidity is over.

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:25:20pm

re: #16 Gus 802

I'd like to hear the stories about what went on during shore leave in and around Subic Day back during the days of old. Or perhaps when they ventured into Thailand and into "Ladyboy" territory.

What happens on float stays on float.

Gus Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:25:29pm

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But they support the troops (as long as they are heterosexual white men).

But aren't most of these guys asexual?

Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:25:50pm

re: #9 Bubblehead II

You know of course what would have really blown the Bigots minds.

If both Women had been in uniform.

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:27:18pm

re: #20 Gus 802

But aren't most of these guys asexual?

The average enlisted man is completely asexual, with his love of Jesus enough to control any lustful inclinations he might possibly be enticed by.
/

Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:28:03pm

re: #6 Thanos

Btw: I thought the picture was great, it would be good for someone to insert it?

Even better - I added video from the The Virginian-Pilot newspaper.

AK-47% Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:28:36pm

re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The average enlisted man is completely asexual, with his love of Jesus enough to control any lustful inclinations he might possibly be enticed by.
/

But Newt teaches us that love of country can lead to acts of immoral lust...so just where do we stand vis-a-vis Patriot Porn?

engineer cat Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:28:48pm

So it begins the total down hill turn for our nation and its

i'm willing to bet that exactly none of the morons writing this crap are regular army

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:28:58pm

re: #20 Gus 802

But aren't most of these guys asexual?

not by choice!

my favorite thing is the constant begging for money on FreeRepublic

"Please, won't you give to our cause? Cretins need a website too!"

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:29:23pm

re: #25 engineer dog

So it begins the total down hill turn for our nation and its

i'm willing to bet that exactly none of the morons writing this crap are regular army

I think the average freeper would be defeated by a member of the KISS Army :D

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:29:52pm

I'm betting many of the ranters are so disgusted by this, they feel forced to watch the video repeatedly after making sure the wife is out of the house.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:30:05pm

re: #24 ralphieboy

But Newt teaches us that love of country can lead to acts of immoral lust...so just where do we stand vis-a-vis Patriot Porn?

The republic is now FREE (of their pants)

recusancy Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:30:33pm

The horrible horrible EPA is at it again making life tougher for those of us who love mercury and toxic air.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:30:33pm

re: #17 recusancy

What's weird about his head? Maybe the lack of eyebrows but his head seems normal.

It just goes up into a weird trapezoid point thing!

Mattand Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:31:05pm

re: #13 ralphieboy

there is a mental link among these people between homophobia and patriotism.

The link is American Exceptionalism and Dominionism: they feel that if we are to be God's Own Country, our laws must reflect (their interpretation) of God's Laws.

They insist that allowing things like abortions, gays to serve in the military or marry, prostitution, drug use, progressive taxation, etc. is all an abandonment of (thier view of) Scripture and will lead to our losing favor in the eyes of God.

I can't wait to see the shit fit these people have when Bioshock Infinite hits the shelves next year.

If it does to American Exceptionalism what the first Bioshock did to libertarianism, there's going to be a LOT of Outrageous Outrage™.

engineer cat Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:32:28pm

the Feast of Lights has begun

but i don't wanna eat lights, mommy

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:32:38pm

re: #32 mattand

I can't wait to see the shit fit these people have when Bioshock Infinite hits the shelves next year.

If it does to American Exceptionalism what the first Bioshock did to libertarianism, there's going to be a LOT of Outrageous Outrage™.

I'm surprised they haven't screamed about the interspecies same sex marriage in Skyrim.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:32:49pm

re: #32 mattand

I can't wait to see the shit fit these people have when Bioshock Infinite hits the shelves next year.

If it does to American Exceptionalism what the first Bioshock did to libertarianism, there's going to be a LOT of Outrageous Outrage™.

Ken levine's my hero :D

Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:33:07pm

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But they support the troops (as long as they are heterosexual white men).

WE SUPPORT MANY OF THE TROOPS.

AK-47% Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:33:33pm

re: #32 mattand

I can't wait to see the shit fit these people have when Bioshock Infinite hits the shelves next year.

If it does to American Exceptionalism what the first Bioshock did to libertarianism, there's going to be a LOT of Outrageous Outrage™.

Do these people also believe that video games should reflect Scripture?

Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:33:38pm

BTW, If you haven't noticed. She is also Surface Warfare Qualified.

Specifically the criteria in 1979 to qualify was as follows:
1. Be a Petty Officer 2. Have 24 months on a surface ship 3. Have a performance mark and Leadership marks of top 30% for CPO's and 3.4 for Petty Officers. 4. Complete the PQS for Damage Control, Damage Control Petty Officer, Repair Party Leader, and Work Center Supervisor. 5. Qualify in all watch stations for rating and pay grade. 6. Perform an oral board held by the Commanding Officer, Executive Officer or LCDR. 7. Be recommended by the chain of command, and approved by the Commanding Officer.

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:34:07pm

re: #36 negativ

WE SUPPORT MANY OF THE TROOPS.

Certain rules and restrictions apply. Offer not valid in all locations.

gummitch Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:34:25pm

Moreover, some of the same people who are registering their disgust over the policy would also be among those who would have no problems if this was a scenario playing out in a porno film.

That pretty much sums it up. Two pretty women kissing each other is TOTALLY HOT when they do it on film for a porno. Real women kissing each other because they love each other, well that's just icky.

The real freaks are the ones hanging out at Free Republic.

goddamnedfrank Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:34:51pm

LOL. Big Gay SINISTAR makes the freepers penises hurt.

"Beware, I live. I hunger, coward. WRROOAAARRR!"

Mattand Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:34:54pm

re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm surprised they haven't screamed about the interspecies same sex marriage in Skyrim.

Just maybe they learned their lesson about the fake Mass Effect 2 outrage.

However, neither Skyrim nor Mass Effect deals with American politics. Gaskets will be blown; you heard here first.

OT: I so want to play Skyrim, but man, it looks like a giant time sink. Perhaps the greatest of all time, but still...

Mattand Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:35:47pm

re: #37 ralphieboy

Do these people also believe that video games should reflect Scripture?

Probably: [Link: www.cracked.com...]

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:36:47pm

As long as we're on games;

Living with First-Person Shooter Disease

Youtube Video

Gus Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:38:49pm

Reading through the comments at FR. What a bunch of sad, pathetic old farts. Heck, they give normal old farts a bad name.

AK-47% Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:39:07pm

sorry I contributed to putting this (or any other) thread onto games

Targetpractice Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:39:30pm

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Certain rules and restrictions apply. Offer not valid in all locations.

Offer subject to change.

Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:41:04pm

Here's another lovely comment on this, from a Sarah Posner post at Religion Dispatches:

God Is Not Mocked.....You Reap What You Sow.....
Posted by JLof on December 21, 2011 at 1:38 PM

"nothing but love and happiness..."

Probably the same kind of smug, God-hating, derisive mocking heard prior to God flooding the entire earth and killing almost every human and animal; and heard in Sodom and Gomorrah prior to those cities being wiped out. But, as Scripture says, God is NOT mocked. What is sown WILL be reaped....

John Lofton, Editor Archive.TheAmericanView.com
JohnLofton.com

Mattand Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:41:46pm

Back on topic:

It's such an Orwell/1984 thing. Some service people are more equal than others. This woman is potentially laying down her life for the US, but that's not good enough for the folk at places like Free Republic.

shutdown Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:42:34pm

re: #48 Charles

Here's another lovely comment on this, from a Sarah Posner post at Religion Dispatches:

I can't wait for the look on these people's faces if/when some messiah or other does show up and tells them what a bunch of schmucks they are.

Gus Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:42:40pm

re: #48 Charles

Here's another lovely comment on this, from a Sarah Posner post at Religion Dispatches:

Freaks.

jaunte Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:44:36pm

re: #48 Charles

Creepy theocratic joykiller.

Gus Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:44:43pm

re: #48 Charles

Here's another lovely comment on this, from a Sarah Posner post at Religion Dispatches:

Thread worthy? If that's who he says he is...

Lofton has made numerous appearances on political talk shows, including The Political Cesspool, Politically Incorrect, Scarborough Country, and The Daily Show With Jon Stewart. He is well-known for a 1986 appearance on Crossfire in which he debated musician Frank Zappa about the Parents Music Resource Center's campaign to identify music albums inappropriate for children. The Crossfire video went viral after freeform radio station WFMU posted about it on its widely-read blog in early 2006.

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:45:01pm

re: #50 imp_62

I can't wait for the look on these people's faces if/when some messiah or other does show up and tells them what a bunch of schmucks they are.

I think it will go a little something like this:

Youtube Video

AK-47% Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:45:18pm

re: #48 Charles

That is Dominionism in action: by allowing such things to happen, we are all but calling fire and brimstone down on our cities.

Mattand Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:45:51pm

re: #48 Charles

Does this guy actually think the whole Noah's Ark deal happened?

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:46:31pm

re: #55 ralphieboy

That is Dominionism in action: by allowing such things to happen, we are all but calling fire and brimstone down on our cities.

Ironically, we're more than likely doomed because of the way these assholes want to run things.

AK-47% Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:46:56pm

re: #56 mattand

Does this guy actually think the whole Noah's Ark deal happened?

Of course. He also believes in demonic possession, witchraft, sorcery, virgin birth and resurrection of the dead. They must interpret Scripture literally.

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:48:45pm

re: #58 ralphieboy

Of course. He also believes in demonic possession, witchraft, sorcery, virgin birth and resurrection of the dead. They must interpret Scripture literally.

I call dibs on being able to sic bears on people.

elisabeth Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:49:02pm

re: #21 Bubblehead II

The partner is also a sailor (who just isn't in uniform).

edited to say: well, duh, the caption says that, too.

Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:50:22pm

re: #53 Gus 802

Yeah, that looks like Lofton. I added it to the post as an update.

Ming Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:51:23pm

This is "change you can believe in". Obama got Don't Ask Don't Tell repealed the "proper" way, in Congress. He said he wanted to do this via Congress (as opposed to an Executive Order), and he did it right.

Unfortunately Congress is now officially looney-tunes, and I don't know what if anything Obama can accomplish with the Congress. But assuming the Affordable Care Act and DADT repeal are not themselves overturned in the future, we can look back on them as real achievements.

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:51:42pm

Obviously, this will doom America and destroy the US military, exactly the same way it did when they allowed women to serve and ended racial segregation of units.

Targetpractice Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:52:20pm

re: #63 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obviously, this will doom America and destroy the US military, exactly the same way it did when they allowed women to serve and ended racial segregation of units.

And doomed militaries across the globe!

Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:52:21pm

re: #53 Gus 802

Thread worthy? If that's who he says he is...

Lofton has made numerous appearances on political talk shows, including The Political Cesspool, Politically Incorrect, Scarborough Country, and The Daily Show With Jon Stewart. He is well-known for a 1986 appearance on Crossfire in which he debated musician Frank Zappa about the Parents Music Resource Center's campaign to identify music albums inappropriate for children. The Crossfire video went viral after freeform radio station WFMU posted about it on its widely-read blog in early 2006.

Lofton implied that rock music causes incest. Really.

Youtube Video

about 4 minutes in.

Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:53:13pm

re: #60 elisabeth

I know. She is a Petty Officer Third Class Fire Control Technician. They met in School.

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:53:50pm

re: #64 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And doomed militaries across the globe!

//

This calls for...

THE DOOM SONG!

Youtube Video

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:55:06pm

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But they support the troops (as long as they are heterosexual white men).

Sure. We're talking about people who support the troops--so long as the troops are straight, Christian (maybe a couple of Jews) and vote for the same people they vote for.

They support families, so long as Mom and Dad are together, there are children, everyone straight, and religiously and politically appropriate.

They support apple pie, as long as it doesn't have any weird Middle Eastern spices in it.

They admire people for one thing only: being like them. The courage a man shows in defending his country is irrelevent, as soon as he's known to be gay, they're no longer impressed.

The love of a mother for her children is sacred right up to the point that she's a lesbian or black and single, or a liberal, or an atheist, or a needlpointer when they like cross-stitch.

That's why they're PINOs. To be a real patriot, you have to love something other than yourself.

Obdicut Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:55:33pm

If god hates gays in the military so much, how do they explain Alexander the Great? Is it 'cuz he predates Jesus, the well-known hater of homo-- oh wait, Jesus never said anything about being assholes to gay people.

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:56:28pm

re: #69 Obdicut

If god hates gays in the military so much, how do they explain Alexander the Great? Is it 'cuz he predates Jesus, the well-known hater of homo-- oh wait, Jesus never said anything about being assholes to gay people.

The Sacred Band of Thebes is on their do not mention list.

AK-47% Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:58:39pm

re: #70 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Sacred Band of Thebes is on their do not mention list.

Gypsies, Tramps and Thebes?

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 21, 2011 2:58:56pm

re: #58 ralphieboy

Of course. He also believes in demonic possession, witchraft, sorcery, virgin birth and resurrection of the dead. They must interpret Scripture literally.

Except for the part about the rich man and the eye of the needle. That's a metaphor for something that has nothing to do with wealth. Or camels.

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:00:04pm

re: #71 ralphieboy

Gypsies, Tramps and Thebes?

Commence to ruing.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:01:11pm

Now imagine if it were two dudes instead of two chicks. The wailing and gnashing of teeth would be amplified eleventy-fold.

Pathetic haters.

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:01:19pm

re: #72 SanFranciscoZionist

Except for the part about the rich man and the eye of the needle. That's a metaphor for something that has nothing to do with wealth. Or camels.

Being wealthy just means they love Jesus more.

Obdicut Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:01:20pm

By the way, Harvey Milk was also in the military, during the Korean war, reaching the rank of lieutenant junior grade-- the same rank JFK reached.

He joined as a petty officer, which I believe means he got promoted from enlisted man to commissioned, so he must have been doing some things right.

But back then he was in the closet, so I guess that was all cool. It's only when you kiss in public that God gets angry and starts sinking your boats.

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:01:54pm

re: #69 Obdicut

If god hates gays in the military so much, how do they explain Alexander the Great? Is it 'cuz he predates Jesus, the well-known hater of homo-- oh wait, Jesus never said anything about being assholes to gay people.

Alexander, Frederick the Great and Von Steuben were all very, very straight men.

You're just LYING if you say otherwise.

///

EiMitch Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:03:05pm

I say the media should show more images like this. It might desensitize the wingnuts enough to make them complaining alot less. Failing that (and it probably will) at least everyone else will be desensitized and be less likely to listen to the wingnuts.

Either way, the nuts will piss & moan alot in the meantime. And anything that exposes haters for what they are is my idea of entertainment.

...

On second thought, all the extra hot air and co2 from the mass-hyperventilating might accelerate climate change. Hmm, decisions, decisions...

Kragar Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:03:15pm

re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist

Alexander, Frederick the Great and Von Steuben were all very, very straight men.

You're just LYING if you say otherwise.

///

They want everyone to be as manly as Rock Hudson.

Wait a sec...

Targetpractice Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:03:39pm

re: #71 ralphieboy

Gypsies, Tramps and Thebes?

Oh my.

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:03:46pm

re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist

Alexander, Frederick the Great and Von Steuben were all very, very straight men.

You're just LYING if you say otherwise.

///

Comment on a military history forum: Caesar was possibly bi as well. Frederick's brother was definately gay and he was also a good commander. The entire Spartan military system was based on state sponsored homosexuality. Bottom line, don't piss off gay people.

MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:05:57pm

re: #27 WindUpBird

I think the average freeper would be defeated by a member of the KISS Army :D

Rock and roll all night and party every day!

/the Kiss name/logo still gives fundies fits

Sheila Broflovski Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:06:11pm

re: #81 SanFranciscoZionist

Comment on a military history forum: Caesar was possibly bi as well. Frederick's brother was definately gay and he was also a good commander. The entire Spartan military system was based on state sponsored homosexuality. Bottom line, don't piss off gay people.

Spartans!

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:07:22pm

I do love the scene in Rome where Atia thinks that Octavian has seduced Caesar, and is disappointed when the kid tells her it didn't happen.

"Some people might think it was improper, since he's your great-uncle, but who can say what's proper these days?"

Woman is nuts.

MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:07:36pm

re: #81 SanFranciscoZionist

Comment on a military history forum: Caesar was possibly bi as well. Frederick's brother was definately gay and he was also a good commander. The entire Spartan military system was based on state sponsored homosexuality. Bottom line, don't piss off gay people.

Shhh, don't confuse the RWNJs with facts and history...their twisted peabrains would explode.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:08:15pm

re: #78 EiMitch

I say the media should show more images like this. It might desensitize the wingnuts enough to make them complaining alot less.

I still hear bitching about shampoo and shower soap commercials being pornographic. These types will only find happiness in the grave. And no, that is not meant as a threat.

Targetpractice Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:10:43pm

re: #83 Alouette

Spartans!

Pretty much every review I've seen of 300 has pointed out the blatant hypocrisy in Spartans looking down at Athenians as "boy-lovers" and thus inferior.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:13:32pm

Smog check. I drove out to a spot that had a great price w/coupon, only to find out they're not "gold shield" certified anymore, despite the CA gov't website that listed them as such.

Serves my dumbass right for not calling ahead.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:14:42pm

Freepers continue:

And the FAGGOT LOVING “AP” Make sure to cover these 2 WORTHLESS BITCHES!

31 posted on Wed Dec 21 2011 21:46:16 GMT+0400 (Московское время (зима)) by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:14:49pm

re: #38 Bubblehead II

BTW, If you haven't noticed. She is also Surface Warfare Qualified.

Specifically the criteria in 1979 to qualify was as follows:
1. Be a Petty Officer 2. Have 24 months on a surface ship 3. Have a performance mark and Leadership marks of top 30% for CPO's and 3.4 for Petty Officers. 4. Complete the PQS for Damage Control, Damage Control Petty Officer, Repair Party Leader, and Work Center Supervisor. 5. Qualify in all watch stations for rating and pay grade. 6. Perform an oral board held by the Commanding Officer, Executive Officer or LCDR. 7. Be recommended by the chain of command, and approved by the Commanding Officer.

In other words, she's damn good at her job...

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:16:51pm

re: #87 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Pretty much every review I've seen of 300 has pointed out the blatant hypocrisy in Spartans looking down at Athenians as "boy-lovers" and thus inferior.

That was just a weird movie.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:18:06pm

re: #89 Sergey Romanov

They support the troops alright./

MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:18:08pm

re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist

That was just a weird movie.

But, visually very stunning, if not historically accurate.

MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:19:28pm

re: #92 Sergey Romanov

They support the troops alright./

So long as they're straight; I'd venture that more than a few Freepers don't care for minorities or women in "their" armed forces either.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:20:36pm

re: #94 talon_262

So long as they're straight; I'd venture that more than a few Freepers don't care for minorities or women in "their" armed forces either.

Oh yeah. They're probably silent about minorities, but:

I could just vomit.

#1 - Women don’t belong on combatant vessels.
#2 - Queer women don’t belong in the Navy.

*sigh* The world has passed me by.

11 posted on Wed Dec 21 2011 21:39:52 GMT+0400 (Московское время (зима)) by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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Artist Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:20:45pm

re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist

That was just a weird movie.

Frank Miller. 'Nuff said.

Targetpractice Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:20:57pm

re: #93 talon_262

But, visually very stunning, if not historically accurate.

That's putting it way to mildly. I'd characterize it as a movie that bent the actual history over a table and wailed on its ass with a meat tenderizer for a few hours.

Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:21:09pm

I just had to comment on this. That clip brought tears to my eyes. For anyone who has gay family members, to know they can come home and kiss there significant other openly is FANTASTIC!

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:21:28pm

re: #96 SteelPH

Frank Miller. 'Nuff said.

Stupid wingnut.

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:23:13pm

Good old 1950s, when f-s, n-s and b-s knew their place! The world has passed me by.

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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:24:34pm

re: #95 Sergey Romanov

Oh yeah. They're probably silent about minorities, but:

*sigh* The world has passed me by.

They were right about that, thank G-d, just as it did for for the dinosaurs.

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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:24:56pm

re: #90 talon_262

In other words, she's damn good at her job...

Yep. But because her Partner is also Female, She is somehow less qualified to do Her job.

Shakes head.

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Obdicut Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:26:43pm

re: #100 Sergey Romanov

Actually, thanks to one of my heroes, A. Phillip Randolph, socialist union leader, the US army was ordered to desegregate in 1948 and started doing so in earnest in 1951. There was still a ton of crap for black military members to deal with, but by the end of the 50s black officers commanding white men wasn't uncommon.

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:27:38pm

re: #103 Obdicut

But they still knew their place!!!1 *drool*

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Varek Raith Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:30:06pm

Giggity!

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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:32:08pm

re: #65 negativ

BTW. Upding for the Video. It longer than 21 minutes to watch it, but that was because of my Internet connection.

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The Ghost of a Flea Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:37:14pm

That picture brightened my day and recharged my optimism a bit. It's so sweet and wholesome.

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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:37:26pm

re: #102 Bubblehead II

Yep. But because her Partner is also Female, She is somehow less qualified to do Her job.

Shakes head.

Not only is that sailor not fit for duty per these misogynistic, bigoted throwbacks, her and her partner are unworthy of any civil rights.

Fuck the wingnuts...their time is passed, the world keeps on a-turning, and they're on the wrong side of history.

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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:37:41pm

Eegad! It's The End^™ of Christian Civilization ^© as we know it. Open lesbianism! Next thing you know, we'll see drunkenness and foul language in the armed forces!

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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 21, 2011 3:38:49pm

re: #109 Shiplord Kirel

Whoops, too late for that...by centuries.

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Idle Drifter Wed, Dec 21, 2011 4:15:37pm

Nothing has changed in the military except what was kept under lock and key can be expressed without reprisal. These people are willing to fight for a country despite the number of overzealous and bigoted assholes who take that service and shit all over it. If they don't like America they can giiit out!

Youtube Video

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weave Wed, Dec 21, 2011 4:40:39pm

Woah, I expected a few isolated comments that where cherry-picked for the post, but damn .... every single comment on the first page was full of hate and bigotry.

I could just vomit.

#1 - Women don’t belong on combatant vessels.
#2 - Queer women don’t belong in the Navy.

*sigh* The world has passed me by.

11 posted on December 21, 2011 12:39:52 PM EST by brownsfan

Yes it has, thankfully.

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elisabeth Wed, Dec 21, 2011 4:51:25pm

re: #112 weave

And that person is a Brown fan ~ why does G*d hate him/her?

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kirkspencer Wed, Dec 21, 2011 5:23:35pm

re: #112 weave

Woah, I expected a few isolated comments that where cherry-picked for the post, but damn ... every single comment on the first page was full of hate and bigotry.

Yes it has, thankfully.

Thankfully, I can read history to realize these voices have been with us a long time.

Go to the archives and find various letters to the editors over various stages of integration, whether being allowed to serve or being allowed into combat units or (the real stack of nasty) full integration with black officers over white enlisteds.

Doesn't make it better, just helps me remember that this too shall pass.

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Lidane Wed, Dec 21, 2011 6:33:57pm

This is awesome. I've got a goofy grin on my face over this story. Frankly, I hope we see more of it.

Also, the Freepers and bigots can get bent.

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Romantic Heretic Wed, Dec 21, 2011 6:33:58pm

re: #13 ralphieboy

there is a mental link among these people between homophobia and patriotism.

The link is American Exceptionalism and Dominionism: they feel that if we are to be God's Own Country, our laws must reflect (their interpretation) of God's Laws.

They insist that allowing things like abortions, gays to serve in the military or marry, prostitution, drug use, progressive taxation, etc. is all an abandonment of (thier view of) Scripture and will lead to our losing favor in the eyes of God.

In other words they think just like the Taliban, except with Christianity rather than Islam.

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Bulworth Thu, Dec 22, 2011 6:53:51am

First comment:
Awwww….isn’t that just precious?
(sickening sarcasm)
Second comment:
So it begins the total down hill turn for our nation and its military, glad I am out!

Down a bit:
Ok, well the US military it is no longer.
I’m, just going to go ahead and call it the US fagitary.
Nice going, president Ohomo.

Sounds like a lovely community of people to be associated with. //

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