Geller and Spencer Spew More Insults and Conspiracy Theories at Your Humble Narrator

And I was just trying to be helpful
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Last night after I posted a fascinating story about a Muslim involved in a violent incident aboard a flight to Kansas City, I realized that Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller would probably be interested in it too. After all, their blogs are totally about Muslims, right?

So I tweeted a link to them, along with a note saying “Don’t miss this story!”

And just look at the thanks I get. Here’s how “Scholar of Islam” Robert Spencer and his fellow “freedom fighter” Pamela Geller reacted to my helpful link.

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102 comments
1 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:35:42am

Bagelboy with a stinky hat.

This character is getting interesting.

2 wrenchwench  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:38:05am

re: #1 Obdicut

Bagelboy with a stinky hat.

This character is getting interesting.

Breitbart must have copyrighted “magic ponytail”

3 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:39:11am

Now now, Charles, it’s not nice to beat up on the slow kids.

4 Gus  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:39:57am

The first sign of a scoundrel and a social miscreant is one that brings your mother into the conversation.

5 Stanghazi  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:40:00am

They are so weird.

6 Charles Johnson  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:40:53am

Also, look at the neo-Nazis parroting Andrew Breitbart’s delusional insults at Vanguard News Network: VNN Forum, Ron Paul, Bill White Mentioned on Mainstream (?) Blog - Vanguard News Network Forum

Long demented screed, brief mention of VNN and Bill White about halfway down the article. Article by pony-tailed, failed jazz man and neocon-turned-leftard Charles Johnson.

7 Charles Johnson  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:42:31am

Imagine my surprise that white supremacists would use the same insults as Breitbart.

8 Lidane  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:43:07am

Geller and Spencer are nothing if not predictable. Heh.

9 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:43:23am

re: #7 Charles

Imagine my surprise that white supremacists would use the same insults as Breitbart.

I’m sure that he’s shocked, SHOCKED that they’re using insults he invented.

/

10 wrenchwench  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:44:37am

Something-something target, something flak…

11 Lidane  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:44:58am

re: #3 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Now now, Charles, it’s not nice to beat up on the slow kids.

But we get all kinds of comedy gold out of it! Why not have a bit of fun?

Besides, laughing at Geller and Spencer is a good way of leaving 2011 behind before the absurdity of the 2012 election. ;)

12 Gus  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:45:06am

re: #7 Charles

Imagine my surprise that white supremacists would use the same insults as Breitbart.

It’s a sub-species on the branch of the far-right. Hence the alliance with the BNP and the EDL who could be described as the missing link between the Bretibarts/Geller/Spencers and the Neo-Nazis.

13 albusteve  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:45:51am

fuck buddies…
they desperately need each other

14 darthstar  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:45:57am

What the fuck does “lml” mean? Laughing my labia off?

15 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:46:01am

re: #12 Gus 802

It’s a sub-species on the branch of the far-right. Hence the alliance with the BNP and the EDL who could be described as the missing link between the Bretibarts/Geller/Spencers and the Neo-Nazis.

*arches eyebrow* Fascinating.

16 reine.de.tout  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:46:08am

re: #1 Obdicut

Bagelboy with a stinky hat.

This character is getting interesting.

Can’t quite figure out the stinky hat business.

17 Gus  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:46:44am

re: #15 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

*arches eyebrow* Fascinating.

Like that? I thought it up myself. ;)

18 darthstar  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:46:48am

re: #16 reine.de.tout

Can’t quite figure out the stinky hat business.

Charles’ profile pic…it’s been the same for a few years now.

19 Lidane  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:48:04am

re: #14 darthstar

What the fuck does “lml” mean? Laughing my labia off?

[Link: www.urbandictionary.com…]

20 jaunte  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:48:20am

re: #16 reine.de.tout

It’s the only thing they can get out of his picture.

21 reine.de.tout  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:48:28am

re: #18 darthstar

Charles’ profile pic…it’s been the same for a few years now.

Well, yeah.
It’s the “stinky” part I don’t get.
My kid gave up “stinky” insults when she was, oh, 6 or so.

22 jaunte  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:49:14am

If he was wearing a plaid shirt, it would be “stinky lumberjack boy.”

23 Lidane  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:49:30am

re: #1 Obdicut

Bagelboy with a stinky hat.

This character is getting interesting.

Wouldn’t “Bagelboy” imply that Charles is Jewish?

I don’t get the reference at all. Then again, I don’t speak fluent Harpy.

24 darthstar  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:50:30am

re: #19 Lidane

[Link: www.urbandictionary.com…]

I think my definition is better.

25 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:50:49am

re: #23 Lidane

Yeah, it really does seem more like something a grade schooler would come up with as an anti-Semitic insult, which is weird.

26 Varek Raith  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:51:20am

re: #21 reine.de.tout

Well, yeah.
It’s the “stinky” part I don’t get.
My kid gave up “stinky” insults when she was, oh, 6 or so.

Yeah, well, you’re a poopy head!

27 darthstar  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:52:33am

re: #25 Obdicut

Yeah, it really does seem more like something a grade schooler would come up with as an anti-Semitic insult, which is weird.

Most children aren’t anti-Semitic. That’s something they learn from their parents and takes years to form. And I didn’t know Charles was Jewish.

28 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:53:19am

I don’t know why you bother responding to these idiots. Let them hang themselves.

29 jaunte  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:53:26am
“Where have I ever said “Muslims never do anything good,” eh? Oh yeah - nowhere.”

I like the way she avoids the main point of the communication: her entire ‘career’ is based on a relentless focus on negative stories about Muslims, Islam, and Jihad turkeys.

30 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:53:56am

re: #23 Lidane

Wouldn’t “Bagelboy” imply that Charles is Jewish?

I don’t get the reference at all. Then again, I don’t speak fluent Harpy.

Yeah. It’s kind of a casual slur on Jews. The sort of thing you can get away with if you have a Jewish friend who thinks it’s funny. Sometimes you just hear ‘bagel’.

I’ve heard it in the States, but a quick research trip through the Intertubes suggests it’s most popular in South Africa.

31 darthstar  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:54:29am

re: #26 Varek Raith

Yeah, well, you’re a poopy head!

I like “poopy head”…I think that’s a brilliant retort, and I really hope President Obama uses it in response to Boehner in the coming weeks. “And if the Speaker would just stop being a poopy head and pass the 12 month employment tax break for working class Americans, we can get on to some other adult business before us.”

32 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:55:33am

re: #29 jaunte

I like the way she avoids the main point of the communication: her entire ‘career’ is based on a relentless focus on negative stories about Muslims, Islam, and Jihad turkeys.

It’s like Spencer’s reply that he’s never said “Muslims never do anything good,” in that it’s only true if you read it literally.

33 wrenchwench  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:55:45am

re: #28 Iwouldprefernotto

I don’t know why you bother responding to these idiots. Let them hang themselves.

He’s just playing out some rope.

34 darthstar  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:56:42am

Okay, poopy heads…I’m hungry so I think I’ll head down the road and hit the Taqueria for some carnitas, black beans, and rice all rolled up into a bundle of love.

35 darthstar  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 11:59:04am

re: #28 Iwouldprefernotto

I don’t know why you bother responding to these idiots. Let them hang themselves.

He enjoys it…let him have his fun. I usually use these threads as an opportunity to talk about whatever I want since I could give a rat’s ass about Geller or Spencer (neither of whom I’ve ever read or seen).

Remember, they used to be friends until Charles realized they were stark-raving mad and took a more moderate view of politics and people.

36 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:00:10pm

“Yo, Is This Racist” is in London. His latest update:

Anonymous asked: All the bollocks about how we’re being “swamped” by muslims and that is obviously racist but are the people that parrot that shite actually racist or do they believe their own toss about “just being concerned about national identity?”

Oi, like all nativist movements, obviously that shit is racist as fuck.
As for national identity, all I can submit is the teenage girl in the headscarf and hoodie I saw today screaming into her cell phone “THAT IS A LOAD OF SHIT, SABINA,” as evidence that, no matter the color, the English Rose is not dead, oh no.

37 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:00:21pm

re: #30 SanFranciscoZionist

I’ve eaten only about five bagels since getting to New York. I’m a failure as a Jew and a New Yorker.

38 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:01:15pm

re: #37 Obdicut

I’ve eaten only about five bagels since getting to New York. I’m a failure as a Jew and a New Yorker.

You really are. You’re supposed to eat one in New York, and realize that your entire understanding of Judaism and life up to this point was tragically flawed by improperly executed bagels.

39 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:01:49pm

I was watching the exchange last night. What fun!
“Oh no, now I’m being double-teamed by the Duo of Dimmitude”
“Uh — you do own a mirror, right?”
“Oh, I forgot - it’s Friday night. You’re half in the bag already.”
LOL Charles has hidden comedy talent! You’re a renaissance man, dude.

40 jaunte  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:06:26pm

Drill, baby, drill.

America’s top export in 2011 was … fuel?

41 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:06:46pm

I’m starting to think of Geller talking with the Baroness’s voice from GI Joe.

42 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:07:41pm

re: #40 jaunte

Drill, baby, drill.

America’s top export in 2011 was … fuel?

Well, obviously that’s why we’re paying so much for oil, because we’re exporting it all. Now, if we were using it all up, then gas would cost $.25/gal again!

//

43 bratwurst  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:09:28pm

re: #42 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, obviously that’s why we’re paying so much for oil, because we’re exporting it all. Now, if we were using it all up, then gas would cost $.25/gal again!

//

You seem to have what it takes to seek the GOP nomination these days!

44 wrenchwench  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:10:13pm

re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist

“Yo, Is This Racist” is in London. His latest update:

Anonymous asked: All the bollocks about how we’re being “swamped” by muslims and that is obviously racist but are the people that parrot that shite actually racist or do they believe their own toss about “just being concerned about national identity?”

Oi, like all nativist movements, obviously that shit is racist as fuck.
As for national identity, all I can submit is the teenage girl in the headscarf and hoodie I saw today screaming into her cell phone “THAT IS A LOAD OF SHIT, SABINA,” as evidence that, no matter the color, the English Rose is not dead, oh no.

If Geller and Spencer could understand that, one would not need to resort to ridicule. And it seems so simple.

But if they could understand that, they would not need to resort to insults. There would be conversation.

45 Michael McBacon  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:10:36pm

I may have to mess with Pam and Robert on Twitter for the lulz. Hopefully the David Appletree/the JIDF won’t stalk me this time.

46 Kragar  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:11:06pm

Scary thought:

What if ranting about Charles is pillow talk for Geller and Spencer?

47 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:13:37pm

re: #41 Obdicut

I’m starting to think of Geller talking with the Baroness’s voice from GI Joe.

And yet another childhood fantasy has been destroyed forever by the internet. Thanks a lot.

48 wrenchwench  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:14:54pm

re: #45 UNIXon

I may have to mess with Pam and Robert on Twitter for the lulz. Hopefully the David Appletree/the JIDF won’t stalk me this time.

He’s quite a creep himself.

49 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:15:39pm

I sense a drinking game..

50 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:16:15pm

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Scary thought:

What if ranting about Charles is pillow talk for Geller and Spencer?

…BRAIN BLEACH!

51 Kronocide  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:25:22pm

re: #7 Charles

Imagine my surprise that white supremacists would use the same insults as Breitbart.

Hah sez the pony tailed jazzy fat guy! Burn Haha LOL I laugh at you all you pathetic losers not worth my time irrelevant that I have to constantly make fat jokes and LOL to point out how irrelevant you are, all the time, irrelevant loSeR fat slob I laugh.

Beats me, I got called an elitist today. I got a little belly but I couldn’t even make ‘fat elitist.’

They foam easy but you know you hit their Battleship when the homo sex slurs start flying.

52 TedStriker  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:26:15pm

re: #30 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah. It’s kind of a casual slur on Jews. The sort of thing you can get away with if you have a Jewish friend who thinks it’s funny. Sometimes you just hear ‘bagel’.

I’ve heard it in the States, but a quick research trip through the Intertubes suggests it’s most popular in South Africa.

“Bagelboy” must be more mellifluous in Afrikaans.

53 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:28:37pm

re: #52 talon_262

“Bagelboy” must be more mellifluous in Afrikaans.

Nothing is mellifluous in Afrikaans.

Youtube Video
54 TedStriker  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:29:50pm

re: #41 Obdicut

I’m starting to think of Geller talking with the Baroness’s voice from GI Joe.

Or Natasha from Rocky & Bullwinkle…

55 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:32:37pm

re: #54 talon_262

Or Natasha from Rocky & Bullwinkle…

lol guess who!

Image: rb_Stills_borisandnatasha.jpg

56 Kragar  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:34:47pm

re: #55 marjoriemoon

lol guess who!

Image: rb_Stills_borisandnatasha.jpg

Better yet.

57 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:35:55pm

re: #54 talon_262

Or Natasha from Rocky & Bullwinkle…

All right. If anybody mentions Morticia in relation to… I am gonna lose my shit.

58 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:36:43pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

All right. If anybody mentions Morticia in relation to… I am gonna lose my shit.

Nah, Morticia’s voice is too cultured and rational.

59 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:37:12pm

re: #56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Better yet.

You win!

60 darthstar  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:37:26pm

re: #42 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, obviously that’s why we’re paying so much for oil, because we’re exporting it all. Now, if we were using it all up, then gas would cost $.25/gal again!

//

That’s actually not far off. Americans are using less fuel than ever, so we’re exporting more than normal, but since supply and demand rules don’t apply in the oil business, our prices are as high as ever. The oil companies know they don’t ever have to lower prices again. We’ll pay whatever they ask.

61 TedStriker  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:38:23pm

re: #56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Better yet.

Pam as Frau Farbissina…that works too.

/Lower the globe!!!

62 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:39:36pm

re: #61 talon_262

And now Cloris Leachman?!?! You guys are killing me here.

63 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:40:29pm

re: #60 darthstar

That’s actually not far off. Americans are using less fuel than ever, so we’re exporting more than normal, but since supply and demand rules don’t apply in the oil business, our prices are as high as ever. The oil companies know they don’t ever have to lower prices again. We’ll pay whatever they ask.

Ayep. Though we may not be gobbling it up, there are plenty of countries that are.

64 wrenchwench  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:40:54pm

If anybody needs a place to kill a couple of hours, try this. My brother sent the link a few minutes half the day ago.

65 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:42:18pm

re: #62 Slumbering Behemoth

And now Cloris Leachman?!?! You guys are killing me here.

I prefer High Anxiety.

Image: High-Anxiety.jpg

66 darthstar  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:44:41pm

re: #63 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Ayep. Though we may not be gobbling it up, there are plenty of countries that are.

But we need to “reduce our dependency on foreign oil”…

67 Varek Raith  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:46:07pm

re: #40 jaunte

Drill, baby, drill.

America’s top export in 2011 was … fuel?

Ain’t that a hoot.

68 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:48:57pm

re: #66 darthstar

But we need to “reduce our dependency on foreign oil”…

The profit margins are higher if we trash our own environment to get the oil to refine to sell to other people.

69 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:50:47pm

re: #32 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Semi-Tangential, but I have been reading this article on Wikipedia:

Rape in the Bosnian war

I’ll admit that this article alone makes me very, very angry at Serbians.

70 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:51:24pm

re: #69 ProLifeLiberal

My friend Danijela is Serbian. She never raped anyone.

Are you angry at her?

71 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:52:11pm

re: #66 darthstar

But we need to “reduce our dependency on foreign oil”…

Makes more money for the domestics, since they don’t have to worry about things like foreign governments levying taxes, nationalizing their rigs, or maintaining heavy security in less than friendly countries.

72 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:55:18pm

re: #70 Obdicut

I admit to having extreme difficulty separating individuals from a group if I don’t know them personally.

How I work on this, I don’t know. I admit to thinking of 90’s Serbia like 30’s-40’s Germany.

Unfortunately, the Bosnians got screwed both times, though I can’t remember the number killed in WWII. Along with the Roma, they seem to be the whipping boy of Europe.

73 darthstar  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:56:33pm

Wow…one of my unsubscribe missives got a response:

I confirmed you unsubscribed so I am not sure why you got this email. I have removed your message from the system. Sorry about that.

I was kind in my reply to that guy.

74 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:58:43pm

re: #72 ProLifeLiberal

I also admit the extermination of 20-40% of the Albanians by Serbians just before the WWI makes it worse.

75 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:58:49pm

re: #72 ProLifeLiberal

I admit to having extreme difficulty separating individuals from a group if I don’t know them personally.

Do you have any idea why? I mean, how would you even define ‘Serbian’? Ethnically?

Unfortunately, the Bosnians got screwed both times, though I can’t remember the number killed in WWII. Along with the Roma, they seem to be the whipping boy of Europe.

No, what has happened to the Roma— including from the Bosnians— is far worse.

The Roma had to sue Bosnia in 2006 simply for the right to run for office in the country. The Bosnian Constitution excluded them— along with Jews, and other minorities.

76 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:08:35pm

re: #75 Obdicut

Considering there is no majority in Bosnia, that seems stupid on the Bosnians part.

As for identifying Serbians, I see your point. It just seems to me that Serbia and their little puppets never got a proper punishment for what happened in the 90’s.

As for having difficulty separating individuals from a group, I tend to categorize everything. Why, I’m not sure.

77 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:15:10pm

re: #76 ProLifeLiberal

Considering there is no majority in Bosnia, that seems stupid on the Bosnians part.

Who do you mean by “Bosnians?” The Constitution was written to broker power-sharing between the three major ethnic groups; it had the side effect of disenfranchising the others.

As for identifying Serbians, I see your point. It just seems to me that Serbia and their little puppets never got a proper punishment for what happened in the 90’s.

Who should be punished? All of Serbia? Why?

As for having difficulty separating individuals from a group, I tend to categorize everything. Why, I’m not sure.

That’s not all that much of an answer. It’s really, really, really bad to engage in collective punishment or blame. What happened to Bosnia was precisely because of that sort of thinking on the part of Serbians, so it seems very, very bizarre for you to use that same line of logic.

78 FreedomMoon  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:16:32pm

So Gellar calls Charles “bagelboy” but isn’t she Jewish? Do this give her a pass? I don’t get it.

79 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:17:30pm

re: #78 tacuba14

So Gellar calls Charles “bagelboy” but isn’t she Jewish? Do this give her a pass? I don’t get it.

Nobody does.

Honestly, if someone called me bagelboy, I’d just laugh at their pathetic attempt at bigotry. From Geller, who knows what the fuck it is.

80 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:17:32pm

Anon rings in the new year by endangering police, military and government employees, steal their credit card numbers…


Hackers group Anonymous warns of New Years Eve leak‎

Antisec also said that it revealed another 860,000 user names, email addresses and passwords for those registered to Stratfor, using the data-sharing website Pastebin, and that 50,000 of the email addresses end in .mil and .gov, which are used by the US government.
…
Antisec said the latest attack is retaliation for the prosecution of US Army private Bradley Manning, who is accused of leaking more than 700,000 US documents to the anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks.
…
Antisec is now drip feeding information obtained during the security breach. In an internet statement, the group said it warned of another leak on New Year’s Eve as well as what it called “noise demonstrations” outside jails and prisons, presumably to show support of convicted hackers: “On this date, we will be launching our contributions to project mayhem by attacking multiple law enforcement targets from coast to coast.”

81 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:19:55pm

re: #78 tacuba14

So Gellar calls Charles “bagelboy” but isn’t she Jewish? Do this give her a pass? I don’t get it.

She just improvised something to challah at him.

82 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:29:51pm

re: #77 Obdicut

I admit that a good deal of this is on an emotional level, which is extremely bad in International relations.

While looking at Anti-Ziganism, I found something on Maria Theresa. She sounded like a very nasty person. Like an Austrian version of Selim the Grim, except without the mass killing.

83 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:31:37pm

re: #82 ProLifeLiberal

I admit that a good deal of this is on an emotional level, which is extremely bad in International relations.

But why do you keep talking about it as though it’s something that’s happening to someone else? This is your mind. You can control your thinking. You can say “Hey, I’m doing the exact same sort of collective punishment that the Serbians did to the Bosnians— I don’t want to do that”. You can, when you find yourself thinking in group terms, stop yourself.

You don’t appear to think you can, or to try to do so.

84 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:32:21pm

re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist

“Yo, Is This Racist” is in London. His latest update:

Anonymous asked: All the bollocks about how we’re being “swamped” by muslims and that is obviously racist but are the people that parrot that shite actually racist or do they believe their own toss about “just being concerned about national identity?”

Oi, like all nativist movements, obviously that shit is racist as fuck.
As for national identity, all I can submit is the teenage girl in the headscarf and hoodie I saw today screaming into her cell phone “THAT IS A LOAD OF SHIT, SABINA,” as evidence that, no matter the color, the English Rose is not dead, oh no.

hahahahaha awesome

85 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:33:06pm

re: #80 Killgore Trout

yeah, that’s the biggest threat to America, ANON. lol.

More money for banksters!

86 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:34:34pm

re: #83 Obdicut

I can stop it, it’s just very hard, and being exposed to the stories of the 90’s makes it harder.

Or, put more simply, I lose progress when I see a story Atrocities in the 90’s.

re: #84 WindUpBird

My Muslim friends here are the same way.

87 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:35:38pm

re: #84 WindUpBird

You should check out Awkward Black Girl on youtube. I think you’d like it.

88 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:36:42pm

re: #86 ProLifeLiberal

I’m sorry. I really don’t get the way you talk about yourself. When you post something like how you’re starting to hate Serbians, are you asking for people to tell you to stop being a bigot, or are you venting, or what?

89 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:38:30pm

re: #88 Obdicut

The second. Trying to get someone to stop me from sliding in hatred of an ethnic group. I can see where there might be trouble, and I know I how think, but I also need help, because my emotions can take control.

90 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:41:27pm

re: #89 ProLifeLiberal

Well, you’re not really going to get that in a consistent way from an internet message board.

Can’t you internalize it? I mean, you recognize that you’re doing it, since you’re posting in the hopes of being talked down.

Otherwise, I mean, I guess therapy or something would be recommended. The internet is not a replacement for professional help.

Especially since most of what you seem to get angry about is people being collectively punished, and then express a desire to collectively punish. It’s pretty deeply odd.

91 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:43:57pm

re: #90 Obdicut

When I get back to OU, I’ll be talking to the counselor about this then.

92 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:44:33pm

re: #91 ProLifeLiberal

Good on ya.

93 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:59:52pm

re: #78 tacuba14

So Gellar calls Charles “bagelboy” but isn’t she Jewish? Do this give her a pass? I don’t get it.

She’s Jewish.
I don’t think Charles is, although I actually don’t know that. Charles?
I have no idea what it means.

94 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 2:03:44pm

re: #82 ProLifeLiberal

I admit that a good deal of this is on an emotional level, which is extremely bad in International relations.

While looking at Anti-Ziganism, I found something on Maria Theresa. She sounded like a very nasty person. Like an Austrian version of Selim the Grim, except without the mass killing.

She has not been remembered fondly by the Jews of Europe, let’s just say.

There’s a play, “Stones of Kolin”, which has a song about her. (It also has a song about Frantisek Kmoch, who comes off much better.)

I had not previously heard of Selim the Grim. That’s a great name.

95 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 2:06:18pm

re: #91 ProLifeLiberal

When I get back to OU, I’ll be talking to the counselor about this then.

Good idea. I would say, too, that I think some of it is because you’re young, idealistic, and quick to anger over injustice, and you want someone to blame when bad stuff happens. The first three are all good. The last is the problem.

But I think discussing it with a counselor and getting some feedback is a good idea, especially since, given what you seem to like to study, you’re gonna learn about a whole lot of other injustice down the road.

96 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 2:24:08pm

re: #94 SanFranciscoZionist

She has not been remembered fondly by the Jews of Europe, let’s just say.

There’s a play, “Stones of Kolin”, which has a song about her. (It also has a song about Frantisek Kmoch, who comes off much better.)

I had not previously heard of Selim the Grim. That’s a great name.

He led a military push that massively increased the Ottoman Empire, crushing the Safavids and the Mameluks and seizing Egypt, Syria, and Iran. He’s also the sultan who invited the Jews of Spain into the Middle East. His son was Suleiman the Magnificent.

“The Grim” epithet is a translation of Yavuz, stearn/steadfast, which sounds even cooler (thanks, Wikipedia—how would I construct RPG campaigns without you?).

His tughra isn’t quite as cool as his son’s, but it’s pretty damn cool.

PLL — my knowledge of the Ottomans is limited. When you say “mass killings” are you talking about warfare attrition or purposeful democide?

97 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 2:37:36pm

Charles? I like you and I like this site.

But, seriously, why are you spending time arguing with the insane and the evil?

98 Genshed  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 8:52:19pm

Every time I read the OP, I think,
“he’s the boogie-woogie bagel boy of Company B”
and want to do more with it. Unfortunately, the amount
of cold medicine currently in my system cautions me
against it.

99 tshinkle  Sun, Jan 1, 2012 4:42:40pm

Very strange post…from the straw man story that I assume proves that not all Muslims are evil, to the weird twitter war that looked like a junior high school teaser getting under the skin of someone who overreacts while one guy tries to be cool.

100 Obdicut  Sun, Jan 1, 2012 5:22:26pm

re: #99 tshinkle

Dead Thread Hero rides again!

101 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:28:31pm

re: #99 tshinkle

So you aren’t just a global warming denier, you also hate Muslims? Imagine my surprise.

102 tshinkle  Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:06:08pm

Wow, that really is a strange connecting of the dots; all I was trying to do is figure out why this story was important enough to warrant posting to the blog. A guy showed he had the rarest of all good human traits (courage), and he happened to be a Muslim. It honestly didn’t cross my mind that a Muslim couldn’t be any more heroic than say, a Jew, Hindu or Christian. I guess the irony was lost on me.


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