Santorum: One Criminal Father is Better Than Two Mommies

Good freaking grief
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Wow, Rick. You don’t seriously believe that having a convicted criminal for a father is better for children than having two parents of the same sex, do you?

MANCHESTER, N.H. — For the second time in as many days, Rick Santorum on Friday drew attention away from his efforts to craft a blue-collar economic message by wading into the issue of gay marriage. He suggested it was so important for children to have a father and mother that an imprisoned father was preferable to a same-sex parent.

Citing the work of one anti-poverty expert, Santorum said, “he found that even fathers in jail who had abandoned their kids, were still better than no father at all to have in their childrens’ lives.”

Yes, he actually does believe this. OK, we have our right wing jaw-dropper of the day.

Also see
Focus On The Family Distorts Another ‘Fatherless’ Study To Oppose Marriage Equality

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560 comments
1 freetoken  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:08:08pm

Because felons are such good fathers.

2 researchok  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:09:12pm

This guy makes Dennis Kucinich look like the picture of mental health.

3 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:09:50pm

re: #1 freetoken

Because felons are such good fathers.

Especially if they're only fathers because they raped the mom. They were obviously part of God's plan.

4 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:11:08pm

Blah is beautiful.

5 freetoken  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:11:49pm

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, Solomon was the offspring of David's adulterous relationship with Bathsheba, so who are you to question the will of God?

There's a Bible verse for anything.

6 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:12:22pm

Dan Savage Says Rick Santorum ‘Has An Anti-Straight Agenda, Too’

activist and columnist Dan Savage did offer some fresh insight into Rick Santorum’s presidential prospects, reminding Keith Olbermann that Santorum doesn’t just have an anti-gay agenda, “he has an anti-straight agenda, too.”

“He’s against birth control,” Savage continued, “he’s against abortion, he’s against pornography, he’s against all sorts of things that straight people use and enjoy frequently, almost once a week at least.”

I’m 0-for-3 this week (unless you count reruns of The West Wing as pornography), but Savage’s point is well-taken. Santorum gets a lot of attention for his weirdly-stated, disturbing views on homosexuality, thanks in no small part to Dan Savage’s Google campaign, but his views on heterosexual behavior are arguably farther out of the mainstream. I don’t know many people, conservative or otherwise, who want to wait to get laid until they’re ready to have a baby. Hell, most of us can barely wait through dinner.

Also, conservatives, before you line up behind Santorum’s opposition to sodomy, you really ought to take a closer look at what activities are covered by that label. Let’s put it this way: in Santorum’s America, “Hummers” would be for driving (and overcompensating) only. The only kind of “oral” you’d see would be Roberts.

7 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:12:26pm

Stories like this really bring home just how incredibly crazy the religious right has gotten. This isn't Santorum's idea and he's not the only one who thinks like this -- it's a talking point from the anti-gay movement.

8 jaunte  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:12:37pm
"he found that even fathers in jail who had abandoned their kids, were still better than no father at all to have in their childrens' lives."

Very sly of him to somehow turn the corner from 'no father at all' in the research to 'father in jail who abandoned child is better than a gay father.'

9 efuseakay  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:13:50pm

So Rick, when you criminalize same-sex marriage, you'd be ok with a child having two fathers? Good to know!

10 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:14:03pm

re: #5 freetoken

Well, Solomon was the offspring of David's adulterous relationship with Bathsheba, so who are you to question the will of God?

There's a Bible verse for anything.

My imaginary friends are cooler than theirs.

11 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:14:20pm

That's right folks. It's better to have a drunkard father that does B 'n Es to get money including a meth lab who also beats your mom is better than having two stable mommies who work for a living. Uh huh. Got it.

12 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:15:32pm

re: #8 jaunte

Very sly of him to somehow turn the corner from 'no father at all' in the research to 'father in jail who abandoned child is better than a gay father.'

Yes - I did a quick search and couldn't find any specific information on this "research," but I'll bet it's very different from the way he's representing it.

13 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:17:04pm
"You may rationalize that that isn't true, but in your own life and in your own heart, you know it's true."

I really hate this tactic, saying that people who disagree with your point of view are necessarily lying because deep down that know you're right. It's incredibly condescending and arrogant to tell people what they know or think. Not to mention the assertion is just plain wrong and ridiculous on it's face. Rick Santorum has no earthly idea what other people know to be true, none of us do, it's the human fucking condition to only truly know the state of one's own mind.

14 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:17:52pm

re: #12 Charles

Yes - I did a quick search and couldn't find any specific information on this "research," but I'll bet it's very different from the way he's representing it.


Focus On The Family Distorts Another ‘Fatherless’ Study To Oppose Marriage Equality

Focus on the Family’s duplicity is not always obvious, but execution of their anti-gay rhetoric is becoming more transparent. In a post yesterday, FOTF’s director of Global Family Formation Studies Glenn T. Stanton boasted that a new study from the University of Chicago Booth School of Business proves that boys benefit behaviorally from having “a home with a mom and a dad”:

STANTON: This supports over three decades of consistent research showing that kids who grow up in a home with their married parents tend to do better in all measures of educational attainment than their peers being raised in single, divorced and cohabiting-parent homes. This is true from everything from grade-point average, behavioral issues, high school graduation and going on to graduate from college. Moms and dads both matter here, as well as the type of relationship between them.

But though FOTF is clearly trying to use this as evidence against same-sex marriage, the study did not prove anything “against” same-sex parents. The study in question (PDF here) did not, in fact, address same-sex parenting whatsoever, but instead compared children raised by married heterosexual parents to children raised by a single mother. It is one of many “fatherless” studies that conservative groups use to conflate not having a father/having one mother with having two mothers. Recall when Sen. Al Franken eviscerated FOTF’s Tom Minnery at a July Senate hearing for attempting to do the very same thing.

If anything, the Booth study supports arguments in favor of marriage equality, because it found that it was neither family structure nor biology that were the direct cause of differences in boys’ behavior, but environmental factors determined by levels of parental input. Stanton’s conclusions reflect nothing found in the actual research data — merely his discriminating ideology.

15 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:18:41pm

I submit that having a rabid, hibernating grizzly bear for a father is better than having Rick as a dad.

16 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:19:18pm

Man in NH: Well my dad turned out to be a mass murderer who hid 24 bodies in our basement.

Santorum: Well, you're lucky you didn't have two mommies!

[Stunned silence.]

17 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:22:40pm

Life, married to an engineer.

I am going through the owner's manuals to throw away the manuals to things we don't have any more or frankly, don't need.

We still have the owner's manual to his stereo.

The one he got for high school graduation.

In 1988.

Of course I'm not throwing it away. We still own the stereo.

18 jaunte  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:24:10pm

Don't tell Romney, or Santorum:

‘America the Beautiful’ written by an feminist lesbian who spent most of her adult life with a female partner.

19 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:24:54pm

re: #5 freetoken

Well, Solomon was the offspring of David's adulterous relationship with Bathsheba, so who are you to question the will of God?

There's a Bible verse for anything.

Given the fact that David's response to one of his sons raping one of his daughters is to be 'furious', but apparently not to take any action, leaving it to another son to take the law into his own hands with disastrous results, I'm not sure that his parenting skills, even out of prison, were anything to write home about.

20 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:27:04pm

I kid perhaps but people like Santorum actually believe these sorts of things.

21 EiMitch  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:27:49pm

Now its official: being a good person has nothing to do with being a christian, as far as the right-wing base is concerned. To them, "morality" is a just code word for bigoted snobbery.

The things mentioned in the ten commandments, especially the parts about not lying, stealing, killing, or being disloyal to your spouse are unimportant beyond giving lip-service to sucker-voters. Whereas the anti-gay edicts that didn't make the ten commandments do matter.

And forget the golden rule. What the hell did that jew Jesus know about morals anyway? (I love it when the irony just comes together)

22 EdDantes  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:29:22pm

re: #17 EmmmieG

It's not just an engineer thing, it's a guy thing. I still have the manual for a 1978 Zenith television I bought when I was 23. I love flipping through it. Memories.

23 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:37:17pm

Astronomers have discovered another blah hole. This time it's in Santorum's skull.

24 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:38:29pm

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)


Focus On The Family Distorts Another ‘Fatherless’ Study To Oppose Marriage Equality

Global Family Formation Studies? Idiots.

25 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:39:13pm

re: #22 EdDantes

On that note, I just found the receipt for the first car he ever owned.

No throw away, right?

26 funky chicken  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:42:37pm

Who the hell is funding this idiot's campaign? George Soros? LOL, what a maroon.

27 EdDantes  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:43:28pm

re: #25 EmmmieG

On that note, I just found the receipt for the first car he ever owned.

No throw away, right?

Correct! Frame it! Digitize it! Cripes, I wish I had retained the paperwork on my first car, a 1973 Mazda RX-2 coupe. If there is a god in heaven you will save it!

28 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:44:03pm

re: #26 funky chicken

Who the hell is funding this idiot's campaign? George Soros? LOL, what a maroon.

In all honesty, I suspect Romney of being behind the, um, sudden burst of information that usually followed someone catching up to him.

Santorum seems to be doing this all himself.

29 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:45:01pm

Rick Santorum's Sex-Haunted World

The Iowa caucuses are over. Mitt Romney put his PAC boot on Newt Gingrich's doughy pumpkin and climbed to first place. The surprise conservative candidate to emerge from the Iowa circus, coming in second place by fewer than ten votes, is Rick Santorum.

Everybody loved Santorum's story about his grandpa's giant coffin hands, because nothing is more American than an old man working himself to death in a coal mine, but what they probably weren't thinking about was Rick Santorum's position on birth control. He's against it. He opposes the thing our modern way of life is founded on. That's because Rick Santorum is haunted by the idea of sex.

Specifically, Rick Santorum, the guy who almost won the Iowa caucuses, supports a State's Rights ban on birth control. Jimmy hats, sex pills, IUDs, implanted devices, ball-stomping, Olmos complexion contemplation, vasectomies; anything that can get between a hard dick and Jesus and make a man take a left down old V-street to Ciudad Sin. This is the sort of animosity for sex you usually only get painted on the wall of a crime scene by a hooker-slaughtering serial killer.

30 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:45:29pm

re: #27 EdDantes

Correct! Frame it! Digitize it! Cripes, I wish I had retained the paperwork on my first car, a 1973 Mazda RX-2 coupe. If there is a god in heaven you will save it!

I've been married for 18 years. I put it back, along with the receipt for my wedding ring, which we also still have.

31 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:46:16pm

re: #27 EdDantes

Correct! Frame it! Digitize it! Cripes, I wish I had retained the paperwork on my first car, a 1973 Mazda RX-2 coupe. If there is a god in heaven you will save it!

An RX-2! You rock :D

32 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:46:37pm

The Republican Party: sexuality, abortion and tax cuts!

33 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:47:02pm

re: #30 EmmmieG

Ring and receipt both, that is.

34 jaunte  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:48:40pm

re: #29 Obdicut

Lol.

"It does not affect your daily life very much if your neighbor marries a box turtle. But that does not mean it is right... Now you must raise your children up in a world where that union of man and box turtle is on the same legal footing as man and wife."

That's psychotic. Who even thinks of that? Rick Santorum!

35 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:49:06pm

re: #29 Obdicut

Dude protected Ensign. I could say something about how his last procreation created a nightmare for him but I won't. He's completely out of touch and is only being talked about because the field is so pitiful to GOP voters. Gah.

36 aagcobb  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:49:55pm

re: #29 Obdicut

Rick Santorum's Sex-Haunted World

Scary to think that if the whackadoodle fundies all agreed to back this guy, instead of splitting their support between him, Newt and Perry, he would actually have a shot at the nomination.

37 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:49:58pm

re: #34 jaunte

I think that quote is actually from someone else, wrongly applied to Santorum. It's Somethingawful, accuracy is not its watchword.

But this is dead on:

Rick Santorum is the Lou Costello of sex. He's constantly sputtering, tapping us on the shoulder and trying to warn us about the ha-ha-ha-hairpie or ga-ga-ga-ga-gays right around the corner.

38 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:50:05pm

re: #29 Obdicut

Oh and beyond the fury of santorums sex fear, that piece was lol.

39 funky chicken  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:51:40pm

Blue collar economic message my ass:

Here’s a Pennsylvanian’s brief guide to the Rick Santorum you don’t know:

1. This compassionate Christian conservative founded a charity that was actually a bit of a scam. In 2001, following up on a faith-based urban charity initiative around the 2000 GOP convention in Philadelphia, Santorum launched a charitable foundation called the Operation Good Neighbor Foundation. While in its first few years the charity cut checks to community groups for $474,000, Operation Good Neighbor Foundation had actually raised more than $1 million, from donors who overlapped with Santorum’s political fund raising. Where did the majority of the charity’s money go? In salary and consulting fees to a network of politically connected lobbyists, aides and fundraisers, including rent and office payments to Santorum’s finance director Rob Bickhart, later finance chair of the Republican National Committee.

2. Likewise, a so-called “leadership PAC” created by Santorum that was supposed to fund other Republicans instead seemed to mostly pay for the lifestyle of Santorum and those around him. My investigation of the America’s Foundation PAC showed that only 18 percent of its money went to fund political candidates, less -- and typically far less -- than any other “leadership PACs.” What America’s Foundation did spend a lot on with what looked like everyday expenses, including 66 trips to the Starbucks in Santorum’s then hometown of Leesburg, Va., multiple fast-food outings and expenditures at Wal-Mart, Target and Giant supermarkets. Santorum also funded his large Leesburg “McMansion” with a $500,000 mortgage from a private bank run by a major campaign donor, in a program that was only supposed to be open to high-wealth investment clients in the trust, which Santorum was not, and closed to the general public.

9. Consider the type of project that the Tea Party loves to hate, a $750 million energy plant in Schuylkill County, Pa., that was to convert coal to liquids but needed massive subsidies. Santorum boasted of his rule in securing an $100 million federal loan for the project -- which had hired Pennsylvania's top Republican Party power broker of the 2000s, Bob Asher, as a lobbyist and paid him at least $900,000. Despite Santorum's efforts, the plant has not been built.

10. Santorum apparently believes in "an entitlement culture" when it comes for former politicians. Losing an election in 2006 allowed Santorum to become a poster child for how ex-pols quickly and easily cash in in America, as a lawyer-rainmaker and joining a "think tank" (that for a time was called America's Enemies) and as an analyst for the Fox News Channel and as a board member for Universal Health Services, an ethically challenged company where executives had supported his Senate campaigns. The New York Times' Gail Collins noted that Santorum had earned $970,000 in 2010 despite seeming sort of unemployed.

[Link: www.philly.com...]

40 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:52:29pm

Rick Santorum. The Republican Party candidate for idiots that sit around their house all day long thinking about how much they hate lesbians because they can't stand watching the Ellen show but still watch it anyway.

41 aagcobb  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:52:54pm

re: #39 funky chicken

Santorum is another stooge for the 1%, just like the rest of the GOP field.

42 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:53:08pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Global Family Formation Studies? Idiots.

Sounds like a geology class.

43 jaunte  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:53:13pm

re: #37 Obdicut

Thanks. I found Urban Dictionary has this on the story:

Origins: Prepared remarks for Senator John Cornyn (R-TX) to be delivered to the Heritage Foundation included the following statement:

"It does not affect your daily life very much if your neighbor marries a box turtle. But that does not mean it is right. . . . Now you must raise your children up in a world where that union of man and box turtle is on the same legal footing as man and wife."

Although Cornyn never used the remarks, the speech caught attention on liberal blogs, especially after the speechwriter, Ben Domenech, was fired from the WashingtonPost.com blog for his history of plagiarism. It is still not clear whether the box turtle remark was original to Domenech, or lifted from somewhere else.[Link: www.urbandictionary.com...]

44 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:53:30pm

re: #23 Gus 802

Astronomers have discovered another blah hole. This time it's in Santorum's skull.

Melancholia, Bitches.
Image: NYFF_MELACHOLIA_460x285.jpg
Blondie McBigTits rules!

45 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:55:20pm

re: #34 jaunte

Lol.

From the Box Turtle Bulletin:

Meanwhile the lowly box turtle plods along, utterly unaware of the uproar around him.

I don’t know how the box turtle got dragged into all of this, but I feel sorry for him. My sympathies are naturally drawn to anyone who is picked on for no good reason. When turtles are threatened, their instinct is to retreat inside their shells for protection — much as I did when I was a teenager. I could have used some defending back then. What’s more, I could have used some reliable information when I was older but still in the closet. I could also have used some help after I came out of the closet and had to deal with other people’s misperceptions of me.

It can be a very confusing and scary world out there, but there’s one thing the box turtle is sure of: he can only move forward when he peeks his head out of his shell. I guess you could say that Sen. Cornyn’s attributed remarks filled me with the desire to take care of my own inner box turtle.

46 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:56:17pm

re: #45 SanFranciscoZionist

From the Box Turtle Bulletin:

Meanwhile the lowly box turtle plods along, utterly unaware of the uproar around him.

I don’t know how the box turtle got dragged into all of this, but I feel sorry for him. My sympathies are naturally drawn to anyone who is picked on for no good reason. When turtles are threatened, their instinct is to retreat inside their shells for protection — much as I did when I was a teenager. I could have used some defending back then. What’s more, I could have used some reliable information when I was older but still in the closet. I could also have used some help after I came out of the closet and had to deal with other people’s misperceptions of me.

It can be a very confusing and scary world out there, but there’s one thing the box turtle is sure of: he can only move forward when he peeks his head out of his shell. I guess you could say that Sen. Cornyn’s attributed remarks filled me with the desire to take care of my own inner box turtle.

Omg, that's where it began.

48 jaunte  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:59:23pm

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

Many others have imagined a whole menagerie of bestial couplings that would come about if marriage equality became the law of the land:

Bill O’Reilly, during a shouting match with a guest, confessed his love for a duck: “The people who want to marry a duck can come in, all right. …If I want to marry a duck... I have a right to marry the duck, alright? … And leave my house to a duck.”

He should go full creationist and leave it to a crocoduck.

49 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 6:59:32pm

re: #44 Killgore Trout

You better watch your mouth when talking about my future ex-wife, mister.

50 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:00:12pm

So many smart people in this world. This country. All eyes and ears have turned to this dolt of a man. How pathetic.

51 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:02:20pm

See? I told you a rabid grizzly would make a better dad than Rick.

52 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:02:28pm

re: #50 Gus 802

So many smart people in this world. This country. All eyes and ears have turned to this dolt of a man. How pathetic.

I doubt he'll have the spotlight for all that long.

53 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:03:10pm

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth

You better watch your mouth when talking about my future ex-wife, mister.

My future ex-wife hasn't even been born yet. Knock yourself out.

54 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:03:25pm

re: #32 Gus 802

The Republican Party: sexuality, abortion and tax cuts!

But only if you're rich. Otherwise you can't have any of those things. /

55 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:05:05pm

re: #52 JasonA

I doubt he'll have the spotlight for all that long.

His shady dealings should gain more volume.

56 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:06:32pm

re: #55 Stanley Sea

His shady dealings should gain more volume.

Oh, don't think for a moment that I don't want him front and center. But if NH and SC go the way the polls suggest then this thing really is over.

57 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:20:15pm

Ladies and Gentlemen the near runner up of the Iowa Caucus.

58 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:22:41pm

re: #53 Killgore Trout

My future ex-wife hasn't even been born yet. Knock yourself out.

Such a cynic!

59 Egregious Philbin  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:25:12pm

"Ick" Santorum is the biggest feltcher out there. No thanks, I don't need a talibornagain theocrat, we have enough of them in the party.

60 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:27:54pm

New Hampshire Restaurant Bans Politicians

Colby’s Breakfast & Lunch in Portsmouth is so sick of White House “wannabes” they’ve put up a sign out front that reads “No Politicians, No Exceptions.”

“We had some disturbances with politicians coming in and tying up the dining room, slowing down and spreading their agenda and just interrupting our clienteles’ breakfast and disrupting the atmosphere,” a waiter named Andrew told WBZ NewsRadio 1030.

I thought Albusteve lived in New Mexico.
/heh

61 Linden Arden  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:28:33pm

Santorum?

What is the derivation?

62 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:36:12pm

re: #61 Linden Arden

Santorum?

What is the derivation?

Santori.
Santorus,
Santorisimo!

63 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:37:35pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

Santori.
Santorus,
Santorisimo!

VIDI! VENI! SANTORI!

I saw. I came. I frothed.

64 jaunte  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:43:04pm

re: #61 Linden Arden

Santori, Santorio, Santorelli, Santorielli, Santorini, Santorum:
From the medieval first name Santoro, derived from the Latin word Sanctus = Saint, the genitive plural form is "Sanctorum", used also to indicate the All Saints feast. Possibly connected to someone acting as a saint, or who has connection with religious things (a sacristan) [Link: www.italyworldclub.com...]

65 Linden Arden  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:47:14pm

re: #64 jaunte

Yes, it has a distinct Latin ring, no question. I am still in research.

66 Digital Display  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:47:42pm

So this is what it comes down to...The GOP being jacked back in time trying to bring back the 50's in both morality and politics...
I remind the GOP.. If you do not grow you die as a party..Remember the Party of the Big Tent? ( you're craven slogan to get Bush Elected)
One of your leaders has got to be a member of the militant wing of the Mel Gibson faction of the Catholic Church..

67 jaunte  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:48:00pm

@BorowitzReport
From now on, please join me in referring to a "sweater vest" as a "douche holster."

[Link: www.google.com...]

68 Lidane  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:48:06pm

This kind of sanctimonious bullshit makes me angry.

Rick Santorum is the kind of hypocritical asshole who would deliberately leave a child in a house with a violent felon just because they're straight instead of placing that kid into a home where they'd be safe and loved just because that home might have a gay or lesbian couple in it.

What utter crap. This sort of Neanderthal thinking is ridiculous in 2012.

69 Lidane  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:55:54pm

re: #66 HoosierHoops

So this is what it comes down to...The GOP being jacked back in time trying to bring back the 50's in both morality and politics...

They've been on this road for 40+ years. This is an entirely self-inflicted wound for the GOP. They spent decades courting the ignorant, the religious bigots, and the total nutjobs and now they're paying for it.

On that note:

Evangelicals Consider Pushing Gingrich, Perry To Drop Out And Back Santorum

A prominent evangelical Christian said Friday that if Rick Santorum continues to surge in the polls and does well in New Hampshire and South Carolina, Christian leaders are planning to ask Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry to drop out and get behind the former Pennsylvania senator.

"There is real concern that [Mitt] Romney will win without having to face one concentrated effort of a conservative challenger," Richard Land, one of the most well-known Southern Baptist leaders in the nation, told MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell.

"What I hear conservatives saying is we need to keep talking about this and we need to let Gingrich and Santorum and Perry continue to make their case, but at some point, earlier rather than later, we need to try to unite all of the social conservative forces around one candidate and have this great debate that so many people want to see between Romney and the non-Romney," said Land, whose official title is president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission.

70 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 7:57:29pm

Rick Santorum’s Top 10 Most Outrageous Campaign Statements

1) ANNUL ALL SAME-SEX MARRIAGES

2) ‘I’M FOR INCOME INEQUALITY’

3) CONTRACEPTION IS ‘A LICENSE TO DO THINGS’

4) GAY SOLDIERS ‘CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN CLOSE QUARTERS’

5) OBAMA SHOULD OPPOSE ABORTION BECAUSE HE’S BLACK

6) WE DON’T NEED FOOD STAMPS BECAUSE OBESITY RATES ARE SO HIGH

7) ABORTION EXCEPTIONS TO PROTECT WOMEN’S HEALTH ARE ‘PHONY’

8) HEALTH REFORM WILL KILL MY CHILD

9) UNINSURED AMERICANS SHOULD SPEND LESS ON CELL-PHONE BILLS

10) INSURERS SHOULD DISCRIMINATE AGAINST PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS

71 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:08:52pm

My jaw is sore.

72 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:10:17pm

I love the intertubz. David Bowie just turned 65. I decided to check and see when he got those teeth fixed.

Thanks to google, you never have to wonder about anything longer than it takes you to get to a computer.

Apparently Iman was behind it.

73 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:10:36pm

Rick, you ignorant slut

74 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:12:24pm

re: #72 EmmmieG

I love the intertubz. David Bowie just turned 65. I decided to check and see when he got those teeth fixed.

Thanks to google, you never have to wonder about anything longer than it takes you to get to a computer.

Apparently Iman was behind it.

2 more days to go.

Youtube Video
75 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:13:03pm

I'll say it again... Rick Santorum is Keyser Soze.

...and then "poof", he's gone.

76 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:13:57pm

re: #75 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'll say it again... Rick Santorum is Keyser Soze.

...and then "poof", he's gone.

Yeah but he's gonna get shmutz all over the place first.

77 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:14:03pm

re: #64 jaunte

Sanitarium: where he belongs

78 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:14:46pm

re: #72 EmmmieG

Personally? I think that his vocal performance on "Young Americans" is one of the greatest things ever done by a vocalist.

79 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:15:11pm

Rick Santorum's favorite song

Youtube Video
80 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:18:23pm

re: #78 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Personally? I think that his vocal performance on "Young Americans" is one of the greatest things ever done by a vocalist.

I have a vague recollection that he did the rockstar part on Cheech & Chongs Ear Ache My Eye. True?

81 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:18:33pm

re: #78 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Personally? I think that his vocal performance on "Young Americans" is one of the greatest things ever done by a vocalist.

Modern Love is my favorite song of his, if not the duet he did with Bing Crosby.

Just my age.

82 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:19:49pm

David Bowie & The Arcade Fire - Wake Up

Youtube Video
83 KettleKat  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:20:19pm

re: #66 HoosierHoops

So this is what it comes down to...The GOP being jacked back in time trying to bring back the 50's in both morality and politics...

They don't really want the historical 50's. They want a subliterate sadomasochistic version of "Leave It to Beaver".

84 mark.haverty  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:20:50pm

The criminal father in my daughter's biological family was there for fucking kids. One of those might have been my daughter.

Santorum's a piece of shit, and Nikki's much better off with two daddies, thank you.

85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:21:10pm

re: #80 Stanley Sea

I have a vague recollection that he did the rockstar part on Cheech & Chongs Ear Ache My Eye. True?

Alice Bowie

86 funky chicken  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:24:52pm

re: #69 Lidane

They've been on this road for 40+ years. This is an entirely self-inflicted wound for the GOP. They spent decades courting the ignorant, the religious bigots, and the total nutjobs and now they're paying for it.

On that note:

Evangelicals Consider Pushing Gingrich, Perry To Drop Out And Back Santorum

Good luck pushing Gingrich off the stage.

These guys really think they want Rick Santorum as the nominee. I'm completely flabbergasted. And amused.

87 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:26:29pm

re: #86 funky chicken

Good luck pushing Gingrich off the stage.

These guys really think they want Rick Santorum as the nominee. I'm completely flabbergasted. And amused.

The funnier thing? Some are hoping Rick Perry can hang in there long enough to be the Not Mitt.

88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:27:03pm

re: #69 Lidane

Sounds like "suicide by cop" to me.

89 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:27:58pm

Butthurt

90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:28:00pm

re: #85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Alice Bowie

(Sung by Cheech... doing an overblown impression)

91 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:29:20pm

re: #86 funky chicken

Good luck pushing Gingrich off the stage.

These guys really think they want Rick Santorum as the nominee. I'm completely flabbergasted. And amused.

No practicality, no attention span. One of my crazier Jewish wingnut groups got in touch today, begging me for money for Santorum, because he's so, so, in love with Israel.

I'm looking at this, thinking, folks, he's NOT GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE. And his asserted position is no different from anyone else on the panel, except for Paul, who also isn't going to be the nominee. Why are you hitting me up for money for the flavor of the month? You're gonna need the check I won't write you in a few months, for the real nominee.

92 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:29:40pm

re: #87 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The funnier thing? Some are hoping Rick Perry can hang in there long enough to be the Not Mitt.

Hasn't Perry already been the Not Mitt once?

93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:29:48pm

re: #89 Gus 802

The Iranians will love us now!

94 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:30:03pm

re: #87 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The funnier thing? Some are hoping Rick Perry can hang in there long enough to be the Not Mitt.

If the people in Texas didn't realize via the presidential run how much of a fucking idiot they keep electing.....and he's gotten so rich off of his hated public sector job. It makes me sick how ill-informed voters are, and the grifters keep on grifting. Shame.

95 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:31:51pm

re: #93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The Iranians will love us now!

Absolutely! //

Heck, Al Jazeera mentioned it but they're a different animal. Maybe we should offer those guys asylum. That would freak 'em out.

96 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:32:05pm

re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist

Hasn't Perry already been the Not Mitt once?

Bryan Fischer is hoping that Santorum can bust up Romney in NH, then drop out due to lack of money and throw his support to Perry, making him the GOP frontrunner.

Youtube Video
97 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:32:34pm

re: #96 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bryan Fischer is hoping that Santorum can bust up Romney in NH, then drop out due to lack of money and throw his support to Perry, making him the GOP frontrunner.

[Video]

Well...he can't.

98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:32:55pm

re: #95 Gus 802

Absolutely! //

Heck, Al Jazeera mentioned it but they're a different animal. Maybe we should offer those guys asylum. That would freak 'em out.

I think the guys we saved will need asylum. Their government is not going to like this.

Not going to like it one bit.

99 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:33:40pm

re: #97 SanFranciscoZionist

Well...he can't.

But, like, Jesus.

Or something.

100 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:34:13pm

re: #98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think the guys we saved will need asylum. Their government is not going to like this.

Not going to like it one bit.

I thought about that. Maybe not exactly that but I did think that now their lives are in danger. I'm sure their secret police will probably keep track of them at the very least.

101 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:34:22pm

re: #69 Lidane

They've been on this road for 40+ years. This is an entirely self-inflicted wound for the GOP. They spent decades courting the ignorant, the religious bigots, and the total nutjobs and now they're paying for it.

On that note:

Evangelicals Consider Pushing Gingrich, Perry To Drop Out And Back Santorum

I hope the cons do have to vote for him, that will give me endless amounts of Schadenfreude.

Too bad if that will ever be the case, though. Obama will mop the floor with Santorum. Would be nice if the Evangelicals wanted a real race.

102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:35:03pm

re: #99 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But, like, Jesus.

Or something.

Jesus just told me that he would really appreciate it if you would stop bringing him into this train wreck...

103 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:35:10pm

re: #99 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But, like, Jesus.

Or something.

Jesus agrees with me.

He can't.

104 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:35:27pm

re: #89 Gus 802

Butthurt

Everything PressTV does is out of butthurt.

105 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:36:39pm

re: #68 Lidane

This kind of sanctimonious bullshit makes me angry.

Rick Santorum is the kind of hypocritical asshole who would deliberately leave a child in a house with a violent felon just because they're straight instead of placing that kid into a home where they'd be safe and loved just because that home might have a gay or lesbian couple in it.

Yes.

Same-sex parents are bad for the children. Hetero criminals are our superiors./

106 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:46:56pm

re: #89 Gus 802

Butthurt

I get a message, "You are not authorized to see this status".

107 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:48:30pm

re: #106 reine.de.tout

I get a message, "You are not authorized to see this status".

Apparently, your tush is insufficiently damaged to see the message. Find a hard chair to sit on.

108 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:48:34pm

re: #106 reine.de.tout

I get a message, "You are not authorized to see this status".

Hang on a second let me check something. :)

109 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:49:03pm

re: #107 EmmmieG

Apparently, your tush is insufficiently damaged to see the message. Find a hard chair to sit on.

Damn.

110 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:50:23pm

re: #106 reine.de.tout

Gus is just trying to spare your delicate sensibilities.
/

111 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:50:45pm

re: #110 Slumbering Behemoth

Gus is just trying to spare your delicate sensibilities.
/

Thwack! ;)

112 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:50:53pm

re: #78 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Personally? I think that his vocal performance on "Young Americans" is one of the greatest things ever done by a vocalist.

"Oh, baby, just you shut your mouth."

113 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:51:22pm

re: #106 reine.de.tout

I get a message, "You are not authorized to see this status".

Try it again.

115 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:53:06pm

Newbies!

116 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:53:36pm

re: #110 Slumbering Behemoth

Gus is just trying to spare your delicate sensibilities.
/

But I'm wearing my pearls - and just can't wait to clutch them!

117 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:54:40pm

re: #116 reine.de.tout

But I'm wearing my pearls - and just can't wait to clutch them!

I've got pearls too but they're made of gravel.

//

118 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:54:48pm

re: #113 Gus 802

Try it again.

Got it that time. I haven't seen anything about the Navy and Iranian nationals. Did you post a link earlier? I can search for it.

119 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:55:43pm

re: #118 reine.de.tout

Got it that time. I haven't seen anything about the Navy and Iranian nationals. Did you post a link earlier? I can search for it.

Try these:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

120 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:56:01pm

Did I get it wrong about them being nationals?

D'oh!

121 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:01:08pm

re: #119 Gus 802

Try these:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Ah, thanks.
Interesting turn of events.

The pirates told them they were at sea “for fun,” the sailors said.

But a sad situation all around. The Somali pirates have no jobs to look forward to at home, apparently.

122 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:02:01pm

re: #121 reine.de.tout

Ah, thanks.
Interesting turn of events.

But a sad situation all around. The Somali pirates have no jobs to look forward to at home, apparently.

Yeah. They look almost emaciated. Malnourished.

123 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:05:05pm

re: #114 Gus 802

One of the many things that bug me about the industry in which I work is the large population of phonies who claim to be liberal, caring, green and unaffected by their wealth and fame but in reality are just as self-centered and addicted to their huge, over-air-conditioned living spaces and private planes as those at whom they point their fingers. And none is more phony and finger-pointing than Michael Moore.

Well shit, I coulda told him that years ago.

124 Lidane  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:05:29pm

re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm looking at this, thinking, folks, he's NOT GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE.

Of COURSE he's going to be the nominee. God wouldn't allow a heathen cult member and liberal like Mitt Romney to be nominated by the Republican Party. Only a True Christian can save America.

Why do you hate America?

///

125 sagehen  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:05:41pm

re: #121 reine.de.tout

Ah, thanks.
Interesting turn of events.

But a sad situation all around. The Somali pirates have no jobs to look forward to at home, apparently.

Apparently most of the Somali pirates used to be fishermen, until the industrialized nations took advantage of their lack of a government to dump all kinds of toxic garbage off Somali shores... now there's no fish.

126 Lidane  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:07:34pm

re: #125 sagehen

Apparently most of the Somali pirates used to be fishermen, until the industrialized nations took advantage of their lack of a government to dump all kinds of toxic garbage off Somali shores... now there's no fish.

See? An unfettered free market is working as intended.

/Luap Nor

127 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:07:39pm

re: #123 Slumbering Behemoth

Well shit, I coulda told him that years ago.

Yeah. The man has no personality. The double standard is the worst of it though. Making millions by slamming millionaires. Right, got it. "I am not a millionaire! Damn you!"

He needs to start wearing a feathered fedora, with a cape and silver adorned cane. Oh, and a white silk scarf to go with that. //

128 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:09:10pm

re: #127 Gus 802

Yeah. The man has no personality. The double standard is the worst of it though. Making millions by slamming millionaires. Right, got it. "I am not a millionaire! Damn you!"

He needs to start wearing a feathered fedora, with a cape and silver adorned cane. Oh, and a white silk scarf to go with that. //

And a diamond pinkie ring.

129 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:16:24pm

re: #128 EmmmieG

And a diamond pinkie ring.

He can afford one I'm sure. His fan treat him like he's some kind of untouchable saint. And he thinks of himself so highly and unapproachable. Blech, it's hard to swallow his BS. "Do not question St. Michael Moore!" Yeah, but it's OK to question some low rung "rich" guy that minds his own business and makes $250,000 a year instead.

130 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:18:07pm

re: #129 Gus 802

He can afford one I'm sure. His fan treat him like he's some kind of untouchable saint. And he thinks of himself so highly and unapproachable. Blech, it's hard to swallow his BS. "Do not question St. Michael Moore!" Yeah, but it's OK to question some low rung "rich" guy that minds his own business and makes $250,000 a year instead.

A fat, loud, rude, uncouth American adored by Europeans who can't stand . . . fat, loud, rude and uncouth Americans. Weird.

131 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:18:54pm

re: #130 reine.de.tout

A fat, loud, rude, uncouth American adored by Europeans who can't stand . . . fat, loud, rude and uncouth Americans. Weird.

How come nobody is every "couth?"

That Bill, he sure is couth. Discretion itself.

132 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:20:12pm

re: #130 reine.de.tout

A fat, loud, rude, uncouth American adored by Europeans who can't stand . . . fat, loud, rude and uncouth Americans. Weird.

Some Europeans love fat, loud, rude and uncouth Americans. They're a convenient bunch of people to feel superior to. The fatter, louder, ruder and more uncouth the better.

133 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:20:45pm

re: #130 reine.de.tout

A fat, loud, rude, uncouth American adored by Europeans who can't stand . . . fat, loud, rude and uncouth Americans. Weird.

Yeah there's always that cliche about "fat Americans" which is frequently and absurdly used as an argument. "You fat Americans are all the same!" Right. And these same people that dare to speak about the "working class" when they're chiding people who are overweight who in fact are those same working class people. We are the 99%! Except those fat people who shop at Walmart!!11ty

134 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:21:56pm

re: #133 Gus 802

You can be as fat as you want and shop at Walmart.

JUST DON'T WEAR THIN WHITE STRETCH PANTS AND HOT PINK UNDERWEAR WHILE YOU DO IT!!!

Please, it's a national service.

135 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:22:53pm

re: #131 EmmmieG

How come nobody is every "couth?"

That Bill, he sure is couth. Discretion itself.

Kinda like when you might hear about a person who is disgruntled; but you never ever hear about a gruntled person.

136 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:23:40pm

re: #132 SanFranciscoZionist

Some Europeans love fat, loud, rude and uncouth Americans. They're a convenient bunch of people to feel superior to. The fatter, louder, ruder and more uncouth the better.

Right. And go to your average union rally and what do you see? Take a look at those Teamsters over there. The ones that these "unemployed" youth with advanced degrees allegedly side with. Theres a huge amount of cognitive dissonance at play here. The idea of being on the side of the "working class" is merely, and typically, just window dressing for their own agenda. That is, they're just co-opting a segment of society only to advance their own personal goals.

137 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:24:13pm

re: #134 EmmmieG

You can be as fat as you want and shop at Walmart.

JUST DON'T WEAR THIN WHITE STRETCH PANTS AND HOT PINK UNDERWEAR WHILE YOU DO IT!!!

Please, it's a national service.

Or, God forbid, pajamas. Don't wear your pajamas to WalMart. I shop at WalMart, and I keep trying to take photos of various People of WalMart that I see there; but my daughter won't let me.

138 ozbloke  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:24:38pm

Got no scruples, unscrupulous.

139 ozbloke  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:25:26pm

For the motor racing fans:

Youtube Video
140 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:26:50pm

re: #138 ozbloke

Got no scruples, unscrupulous.

Well, I've never actually heard someone described as "scrupled," but I have heard scruple used as a verb.

141 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:26:57pm

re: #127 Gus 802

I recall hearing or reading that he also owned stock in Haliburton. Was there any truth to that?

142 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:27:28pm

re: #137 reine.de.tout

Or, God forbid, pajamas. Don't wear your pajamas to WalMart. I shop at WalMart, and I keep trying to take photos of various People of WalMart that I see there; but my daughter won't let me.

I used to go to one in Morgan Hill, CA. Never saw anything unusual. The one here is too far. They have great prices and I don't care what the hipsters think. Anywho, I go to Safeway now.

143 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:27:30pm

re: #137 reine.de.tout

Or, God forbid, pajamas. Don't wear your pajamas to WalMart. I shop at WalMart, and I keep trying to take photos of various People of WalMart that I see there; but my daughter won't let me.

Oh geez...
Image: 3446SD.jpg

144 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:27:39pm

A message for Alabama from Cajun Smurf:

Youtube Video
145 ozbloke  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:27:44pm

re: #140 EmmmieG

Must be the company we keep...

146 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:28:08pm

re: #143 Varek Raith

Oh geez...
Image: 3446SD.jpg

Oh, ew, ick, spit, ptui!

147 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:28:55pm

re: #141 Slumbering Behemoth

I recall hearing or reading that he also owned stock in Haliburton. Was there any truth to that?

Yeah I think it was part of his stock portfolio. He claimed he didn't know and eventually that same investor of his was jailed for fraud of some sort. Of course he had to have known. I know the drill. When you're trying to be PC you check what you're investing in. It's par for the course. He had to have known by then. This isn't the 1980s.

148 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:29:16pm

Remember the outrageous outrage about an associate professor "forcing students to go to OWS?"

Well, they left out a few details to make it outrageous, like the assignment being an ethnographic exercise...in other words, expressly about observation of a group's self-understanding. Now, as an anthropologist (in training if not profession), I'd call horseshit just on the basis of the word "ethnography"--if you are reporting about how the group views themselves...which is the basic distinction between ethnography and ethnology...you are neither required to share those beliefs nor endorse then. Indeed, ethnography is quite specifically an exercise in setting aside your worldview..."my beliefs won't let me listen to how people view themselves" is Ethnographic Fail, pure and simple.

But that's not the end of the sketchiness: the link above includes the students succession of emails, demanding the expulsion of the associate professor for reasons such as: "violation of her First Amendment rights" for not allowing her to express herself in class, and for not calling on her when she raised her hand...and it goes downhill from there.

149 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:29:19pm

re: #146 reine.de.tout

Oh, ew, ick, spit, ptui!

It's a me, Mario!
Image: 3416.jpg

150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:29:46pm

re: #137 reine.de.tout

Actually? I don't have a problem with the fleece pajama pants. They're comfy, not revealing... now worse than wearing sweatpants.

I went to a music rehearsal in pajamas once. My wife dared me... you know, it's like she never met me sometimes.

151 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:29:50pm

re: #143 Varek Raith

Oh geez...
Image: 3446SD.jpg

That reminds me of being in a pickup truck going through a drive-through at a Wendy's back in 1995. We had six dead white-tail deer in the back - which was noticed and there were 5-6 employees jammed into the pick-up window to take a look while we picked up the food.

152 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:30:04pm

re: #149 Varek Raith

It's a me, Mario!
Image: 3416.jpg

I hope he finds the princess, and soon.

153 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:31:08pm

re: #150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Actually? I don't have a problem with the fleece pajama pants. They're comfy, not revealing... now worse than wearing sweatpants.

I went to a music rehearsal in pajamas once. My wife dared me... you know, it's like she never met me sometimes.

It's who's wearing the pajamas. A fit 19 year old just looks like she's a little lazy. I would look...yeah...not good.

Like I had let myself go.

154 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:31:19pm

re: #150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Actually? I don't have a problem with the fleece pajama pants. They're comfy, not revealing... now worse than wearing sweatpants.

I went to a music rehearsal in pajamas once. My wife dared me... you know, it's like she never met me sometimes.

OMG, FBV.

Did you see me talking about my hubby's sweatpants, and the neighbor being so happy when she heard I got him some new ones and threw the old ones away? Some of 'em WERE those flannel PJ pants. OMG. I was soooooo glad to get rid of those.

155 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:31:30pm

re: #152 EmmmieG

I hope he finds the princess, and soon.

The princess is in another big-box store.

156 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:31:57pm

re: #148 The Ghost of a Flea

OWS is a valid topic to study. Regardless of how one feels. So I never thought it was that big a deal. It's still dealing with human activity and all its behaviors, economies, psychology, etc. I mean even a critic would be able to study it from his or her own point of view.

157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:33:58pm

re: #154 reine.de.tout

I was wearing my Pajamas and it was time to leave. I was huffing and puffing that I was so comfy...

She said, "Wear them. No one will care.... I dare you. I put on my Tweety Bird slippers, and we went."

My friend Bill said that I looked like I should be pushing an IV pole.

158 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:34:09pm

But that always bugs me. That whole "fat Americans' thing. Because when you come right down to it that's a class thing. And people that criticize "fat Americans" are partaking in class bigotry.

159 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:34:28pm

re: #153 EmmmieG

It's who's wearing the pajamas. A fit 19 year old just looks like she's a little lazy. I would look...yeah...not good.

Like I had let myself go.

The crazy lady in the subdivision is out shopping again.

160 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:34:39pm

re: #146 reine.de.tout

Oh, ew, ick, spit, ptui!

Yeah, I wouldn't be caught dead as a hunter in a socker mom van either.

161 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:35:28pm

re: #160 Naso Tang

Yeah, I wouldn't be caught dead as a hunter in a socker mom van either.

Those are racoons. Racoons. Who eats racoons?

162 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:36:57pm

re: #161 EmmmieG

Those are racoons. Racoons. Who eats racoons?

Hold up.
Let's start at the beginning.
Who stacks a bunch of dead anythings on the top of a vehicle? Then go shopping with said vehicle? A minivan, no less.

163 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:37:31pm

re: #161 EmmmieG

Those are racoons. Racoons. Who eats racoons?

ummm. . .

164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:37:31pm

re: #161 EmmmieG

Those are racoons. Racoons. Who eats racoons?

You are welcome.

165 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:37:34pm

re: #159 prairiefire

The crazy lady in the subdivision is out shopping again.

At Christmas, I found an owl ornament. They had put the eyes on so they didn't point the same way.

I tried to walk away, I really did, but in my heart, I had already latched on to the sad, crazy little fellow.

I'm now regretting that I packed him up with the rest of the ornaments.

166 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:38:37pm

re: #161 EmmmieG

Those are racoons. Racoons. Who eats racoons?

Also, I did while in Boy Scouts.
:P

167 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:38:44pm

re: #161 EmmmieG

Those are racoons. Racoons. Who eats racoons?

come to Georgia. The starter is squirrel.

168 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:39:18pm

re: #152 EmmmieG

I hope he finds the princess, and soon.

Actually, The Princess and Bowser have had a thing for years. Why do you think its always so easy for him to kidnap her and where do you think all of Bowser's kids came from?

169 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:39:28pm

re: #166 Varek Raith

Also, I did while in Boy Scouts.
:P

Wow. Ours take in food. I think they might go fishing.

170 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:39:42pm

re: #161 EmmmieG

Those are racoons. Racoons. Who eats racoons?

Huckabee.

171 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:39:57pm

re: #167 Naso Tang

come to Georgia. The starter is squirrel.

I have ADD. It would be something close to cannibalism.

172 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:40:35pm

re: #167 Naso Tang

come to Georgia. The starter is squirrel.

Did not like squirrel.

173 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:40:50pm

re: #161 EmmmieG

Those are racoons. Racoons. Who eats racoons?

Apparently quite a few people. My favorite line from the article:

"They leave the paw on to prove it's not a cat or a dog," Washington says.

174 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:40:54pm

People deserve a certain level of respect regardless of their cultures. And that includes people from Saint George, Utah to those from Bangladesh. They may look different but there's really no cause for alarm. The key as always is mutually derived respect which is typically earned.

175 Lidane  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:41:00pm

re: #155 The Ghost of a Flea

The princess is in another big-box store.

Heh.

176 wheat-dogg  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:41:38pm

The Great Santorum is just another clueless, entitled politician who has no idea about life "on the other side of the tracks." A father in the slammer could have done anything from robbing a bank to shooting a cop to molesting little boys at summer camp to slicing and dicing his rape victims in the basement. An evening spent watching Law & Order: SVU could have given him some ideas of the depravity of some criminals.

177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:41:39pm

A review from a Raccoon recipe...

I've eat quite a bit of coon in my life, but this here recipe on this innernet hickey is real good. I spotlighted me a extry big coon and it took some doing to git it out of the dang tree even with three beagles but one beagle can't see out of his left eye too good cause of chasin a possum in a briar patch and didn't mind me when I kept hollerin at him to get back here. So I guess he got what he had comin but I still hate it for him. The coon was bigger than most and a old one so I let him soak in salt water overnight then boiled him to soften him up and didn't have no sweet taters so I used white taters and a few extry like I say cause he was so big and all. I put him on the barby like they say down there in Australier and let him cook real slow and damn he was tasty. He was so tender and good one of them PETER folks would set aside their veginarian ways for a minute and enjoy theirselves real good. Well the youngun wants her webtv back so I better git off here. God bless the CSA. Or USA. Hell, God bless em both.

178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:42:26pm

re: #171 EmmmieG

How many people with ADD does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Wanna go ride a bike?

179 Lidane  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:43:24pm

re: #176 wheatdogg

The Great Santorum is just another clueless, entitled politician who has no idea about life "on the other side of the tracks." A father in the slammer could have done anything from robbing a bank to shooting a cop to molesting little boys at summer camp to slicing and dicing his rape victims in the basement. An evening spent watching Law & Order: SVU could have given him some ideas of the depravity of some criminals.

Santorum doesn't care. As long as that violent felon is straight, he can have as many kids as he wants in his house. It's sickening.

180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:44:50pm

re: #163 reine.de.tout

ummm. . .

Most LA entrees are based on a dare.

181 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:46:08pm

re: #172 Varek Raith

Did not like squirrel.

Actually I never tried squirrel, but if the dog doesn't catch one soon I might break out the 22 one day. I did however try the national dish of Peru once. Guinea Pig once. Once only.

182 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:46:39pm

re: #165 EmmmieG

Aw, glue him to the dashboard. He will light your way!
I bought an owl ornament this Christmas as well.

183 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:48:42pm

re: #181 Naso Tang

Actually I never tried squirrel, but if the dog doesn't catch one soon I might break out the 22 one day. I did however try the national dish of Peru once. Guinea Pig once. Once only.

Ate dog when I was in Korea.

184 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:48:46pm

re: #158 Gus 802

But that always bugs me. That whole "fat Americans' thing. Because when you come right down to it that's a class thing. And people that criticize "fat Americans" are partaking in class bigotry.

Sure. There are a lot of places where people are a lot more comfortable being very open about class snobbery than most Americans are. There are also a lot of people who think Americans are gauche as hell--and will say so in ways that strike Americans as being awful gauche.

Then there's the man I was standing behind in line at the Crown Jewels exhibit in London. He was wearing Bermuda shorts, and sandals with socks, and he wanted, in a distinctly American accent, to know, just generally, what the whole collection was valued at. He was terrific.

185 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:49:30pm

re: #161 EmmmieG

Those are racoons. Racoons. Who eats racoons?

Folks do.

186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:49:47pm

re: #184 SanFranciscoZionist

Please tell me there was a belt and suspenders too.

Even if you have to lie...

187 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:50:16pm

re: #170 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Huckabee.

No, his famous recipe is squirrel. In a popcorn popper.

188 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:50:35pm

re: #173 goddamnedfrank

Apparently quite a few people. My favorite line from the article:

I know some who will fatten up a trapped possum for the same end use.

189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:51:06pm

You folks are a bad influence. Look at the time!

G'night knuckleheads.

190 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:51:52pm

As I have said before: Oink. Cluck. Moo.

Or I ain't eatin'.

191 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:52:22pm

Patriarchial Fatherly Order of the World Rites demand a father is best. Period.

Didn't everyone know that?

/gah

192 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:52:32pm

re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Please tell me there was a belt and suspenders too.

Even if you have to lie...

Oh, why not? Belt and suspenders. I cannot, all these years later actually recall if he was really wearing a Hawaiian shirt, or if I made that up.

193 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:52:34pm

re: #150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Actually? I don't have a problem with the fleece pajama pants. They're comfy, not revealing... no worse than wearing sweatpants.

That's the whole point, though, isn't it?

194 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:52:36pm

re: #187 SanFranciscoZionist

No, his famous recipe is squirrel. In a popcorn popper.

Yeah, but he's got a rotisserie as well.

195 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:53:02pm

re: #190 EmmmieG

As I have said before: Oink. Cluck. Moo.

Or I ain't eatin'.

Buffalo.
Yum.

196 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:53:34pm

re: #195 Varek Raith

Buffalo.
Yum.

I'm still confused.

the undead have 3 non-lives and eat red meat?

197 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:53:37pm

re: #195 Varek Raith

Buffalo.
Yum.

They can stay roaming on the range. We'll both be happier.

198 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:53:44pm

re: #184 SanFranciscoZionist

Sure. There are a lot of places where people are a lot more comfortable being very open about class snobbery than most Americans are. There are also a lot of people who think Americans are gauche as hell--and will say so in ways that strike Americans as being awful gauche.

Then there's the man I was standing behind in line at the Crown Jewels exhibit in London. He was wearing Bermuda shorts, and sandals with socks, and he wanted, in a distinctly American accent, to know, just generally, what the whole collection was valued at. He was terrific.

There's also a reverse stereotype we have about Europeans. That they're all "high class" Europeans. But that's not true at all and they're simply not familiar with the full spectrum of Europeans including the working class there as well. This is mostly because we create these opinions based on the tourist parts of Europe. No one goes on vacation in the factory towns of Europe. Or gets caught up in a skinhead rally filled with drunken soccer hooligans.

199 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:54:39pm

re: #158 Gus 802

But that always bugs me. That whole "fat Americans' thing. Because when you come right down to it that's a class thing. And people that criticize "fat Americans" are partaking in class bigotry.

Perhaps a bit of nationalism as well.

200 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:54:40pm

re: #156 Gus 802

OWS is a valid topic to study. Regardless of how one feels. So I never thought it was that big a deal. It's still dealing with human activity and all its behaviors, economies, psychology, etc. I mean even a critic would be able to study it from his or her own point of view.

It pisses me off because it's a personal form of "knowledge will kowtow to my belief system."

Also, the student tries to use the threat of going to the press as leverage for demanding that the dean fire the professor in question. It's nigh-unto extortion.

201 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:57:34pm

re: #198 Gus 802

No one goes on vacation in the factory towns of Europe. Or gets caught up in a skinhead rally filled with drunken soccer hooligans.

You should follow my husband and I around. We got lost among the public housing towers of Leeds one fine autumn afternoon. That was a week before we ended up staying in a B&B in the outskirts of Dublin, right by the stadium where the Big Football Game between Ardagh and Killarney was happening.

I especially liked the ten-year-old boy wearing the replica of the Ardagh Chalice on his head.

202 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:59:18pm

re: #201 SanFranciscoZionist

You should follow my husband and I around. We got lost among the public housing towers of Leeds one fine autumn afternoon. That was a week before we ended up staying in a B&B in the outskirts of Dublin, right by the stadium where the Big Football Game between Ardagh and Killarney was happening.

I especially liked the ten-year-old boy wearing the replica of the Ardagh Chalice on his head.

Leeds was/is a steel town? I know they used to build a lot of bike frames around there.

203 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 9:59:57pm

re: #198 Gus 802

I hid from drunken soccer hooligans in the loo on a train when I was travelling alone in England. Scary.

204 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:00:05pm

re: #198 Gus 802

No one goes on vacation in the factory towns of Europe.

In 1999, I went on vacation to a European land fill. It was fucking awesome!

205 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:00:10pm

Sure are a lot of vegans out tonight.

//

206 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:02:21pm

re: #204 Slumbering Behemoth

In 1999, I went on vacation to a European land fill. It was fucking awesome!

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207 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:03:04pm

OT. I have this hand me down IPad, which is great for sofa surfing, but sucks for LGF.

No fast scroll bar. Every tab switch needs to reload online instead of a cache, and doesn't come back to the original position in the posts. Touch an ad with a nuckle and it reloads, and then back to the top of LGF again.

No page search function to quickly find a post again.
Oh, and no frigging delete key. Can't connect to a TV, even with the Apple adapter. No flash equivalent for most videos.
There may be more, but the Apple brilliance is definitely overstated, and I'm not even a professional critic.

208 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:04:06pm

Some trivia about myself.
The furthest north and east I've been is NYC.
The furthest south is Kitty Hawk.
The furthest west is Blacksburg.

209 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:05:26pm

re: #208 Varek Raith

Some trivia about myself.
The furthest north and east I've been is NYC.
The furthest south is Kitty Hawk.
The furthest west is Blacksburg.

What about vertically?

//

210 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:06:23pm

re: #202 Gus 802

Leeds was/is a steel town? I know they used to build a lot of bike frames around there.

Cloth production, I think, traditionally, and now maybe electronics? We were there for the Royal Armory Museum.

The urban areas in the North of London are still polluted as hell. London has it too. There's just schmutz in the air.

211 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:06:34pm

re: #209 Gus 802

What about vertically?

//

35,000 feet?
Took a flight from Dulles to NYC when I was...4, I think.
:P

212 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:06:54pm

re: #208 Varek Raith

Some trivia about myself.
The furthest north and east I've been is NYC.
The furthest south is Kitty Hawk.
The furthest west is Blacksburg.

My ancestors came to Oregon in 1844.

"East" for me is Kansas.

213 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:07:28pm

re: #208 Varek Raith

Some trivia about myself.
The furthest north and east I've been is NYC.
The furthest south is Kitty Hawk.
The furthest west is Blacksburg.

Been to Japan, Okinawa, Korea, and spent one summer in Finland. Got a picture of me standing at the Finnish-Soviet Border (this was back in the late 80s)

214 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:08:16pm

re: #206 Gus 802

Image: 800px-AnthraxSonisphere2010.jpg

WTF?!?! Belladonna is back? I am so out of touch.

215 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:09:23pm

re: #198 Gus 802

My daughter and friends were accosted in central Paris a few years ago by the car burner crowd. She will not go back to France for a long time.

216 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:11:48pm

re: #208 Varek Raith

Some trivia about myself.
The furthest north and east I've been is NYC.
The furthest south is Kitty Hawk.
The furthest west is Blacksburg.

Okay, but what was your starting point? Like your birthplace... er, spawning ground?

217 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:12:49pm

re: #216 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay, but what was your starting point? Like your birthplace... er, spawning ground?

Born in Culpeper, Va.
Lived half my life in Ocean County NJ.

218 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:14:00pm

re: #208 Varek Raith

Some trivia about myself.
The furthest north and east I've been is NYC.
The furthest south is Kitty Hawk.
The furthest west is Blacksburg.

Let's see.

Further north would be Glacier NP, Montana
Furthest south would be Okefenokee Wildlife Refuge, Georgia*
West would be Eureka, California.
Furthest east was probably somewhere in Maine.

*Technically Argentina but I never been down there since we came here in 1963.

Went to Tijuana once. Makes you appreciate the USA a lot more. Never seen poverty like that before in my life.

219 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:15:22pm

Vertically I think was 40,000 feet on a flight from SFO to EWR.

220 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:16:33pm

re: #218 Gus 802

Let's see.

Further north would be Glacier NP, Montana
Furthest south would be Okefenokee Wildlife Refuge, Georgia*
West would be Eureka, California.
Furthest east was probably somewhere in Maine.

*Technically Argentina but I never been down there since we came here in 1963.

Went to Tijuana once. Makes you appreciate the USA a lot more. Never seen poverty like that before in my life.

TJ. Drunk obnoxious Americans, cheap garbage they are trying to sell to drunk obnoxious Americans, and poverty.

My teen sisters didn't understand why I was not having a good time until one of them accidentally walked into a shop for the Mexicans. You should have seen her face.

221 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:17:49pm

Furthest east would be somewhere in Germany.
Furthest south, Rosarito Beach, Mexico, possibly also furthest west? I don't know. If not, west is the California coast.
Furthest north would be the north of England.

222 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:18:33pm

Wow, Lakewood has grown rapidly since I left.

223 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:18:34pm

re: #217 Varek Raith

Born and raised in the Bay Area, lived there on and off for more than twenty years. Four-ish years in Seattle, and now ten in the central valley (CA)

Been briefly in Oregon, Arizona, New Mexico, Idaho, Utah, and Nevada.

Been to Canada once, and Amsterdam once, which is the sum total of my foreign travels. Unless you count me being in Mexico as an infant, which I don't.

BTW, you left your spawning ground. That's what's important. How far afield you go, not so much.

224 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:19:42pm

re: #220 EmmmieG

TJ. Drunk obnoxious Americans, cheap garbage they are trying to sell to drunk obnoxious Americans, and poverty.

My teen sisters didn't understand why I was not having a good time until one of them accidentally walked into a shop for the Mexicans. You should have seen her face.

We drove through Tijuana on the way down to my cousin's wedding.

I, for reasons known only to my father, had been designated as 'the one who speaks Spanish'. This would make more sense if I spoke Spanish.

As it was, I was the one in charge of sticking my head out the window at various points and saying "La playa Rosarito--donde?" in a plaintive tone. Thank God, people knew to just point, once they heard my accent.

225 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:22:31pm

re: #224 SanFranciscoZionist

We drove through Tijuana on the way down to my cousin's wedding.

I, for reasons known only to my father, had been designated as 'the one who speaks Spanish'. This would make more sense if I spoke Spanish.

As it was, I was the one in charge of sticking my head out the window at various points and saying "La playa Rosarito--donde?" in a plaintive tone. Thank God, people knew to just point, once they heard my accent.

Huh, I thought speaking English in a louder tone made you more understandable.
/

226 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:23:02pm

re: #225 Varek Raith

Bobity-Boopy!

227 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:23:16pm

re: #222 Varek Raith

Wow, Lakewood has grown rapidly since I left.

I haven't been back around there in ages. 1990s for a couple of days.

228 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:23:19pm

re: #224 SanFranciscoZionist

We drove through Tijuana on the way down to my cousin's wedding.

I, for reasons known only to my father, had been designated as 'the one who speaks Spanish'. This would make more sense if I spoke Spanish.

As it was, I was the one in charge of sticking my head out the window at various points and saying "La playa Rosarito--donde?" in a plaintive tone. Thank God, people knew to just point, once they heard my accent.

At the Christmas breakfast where we volunteered, they stuck Mr. Emmmieg in the kitchen.

Believe me, it made no sense to put the Spanish speaker in the kitchen. I was reduced to asking "cuantos anos?" and trying to remember my numbers so I could grab the correct toys.

229 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:23:22pm

re: #226 Slumbering Behemoth

Bobity-Boopy!

Ah, Italian.

230 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:23:50pm

re: #227 Gus 802

I haven't been back around there in ages. 1990s for a couple of days.

I left in 96.
I miss that lake house.

231 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:24:43pm

re: #229 Varek Raith

I put on my false mustache.

232 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:25:55pm

re: #230 Varek Raith

I left in 96.
I miss that lake house.

Looks like it almost tripled in population since I really knew Lakewood. There was some jazz bar we went to a few times when I was 17. ;)

233 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:26:07pm

I've got Wyandotte County, Kansas on my birth certificate. After the Kansas Speedway racetrack, Nebraska Furniture Mart and Cabella's were built, the place has completely changed.
All growth instigated by a Democratic lady mayor, btw.

234 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:26:41pm

re: #233 prairiefire

I've got Wyandotte County, Kansas on my birth certificate. After the Kansas Speedway racetrack, Nebraska Furniture Mart and Cabella's were built, the place has completely changed.
All growth instigated by a Democratic lady mayor, btw.

Oh, so you're from Back East, then?

235 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:27:56pm

re: #225 Varek Raith

Huh, I thought speaking English in a louder tone made you more understandable.
/

I might have done just as well with that.

On the way back, we got into Tijuana, and then got turned around by a helpful traffic cop, who was lying through her teeth. We shot back down the coast, and finally found a little snackbar-type thing by the side of the road, where I was turned loose to 'speak Spanish' and get directions.

I hopefully asked the teenager behind the counter, "Habla Ingles?"

She giggled and shook her head. I thought, I am going to be an adult. I have taken a whole year of Spanish classes. Ten years ago. I have heard people speaking Spanish every day of my life. I am going to say a whole sentence. I said "Somos..." and then I gave up and said, "San Diego?"

She said something rather detailed. I made her repeat it two or three times, while I tried to remember what the hell 'izquierdo' meant. Finally, I thanked her, walked out, and told my father that if we continued down the road a couple of miles, we would be able to turn left and go back. This only confirmed his belief that I speak Spanish. Like a native.

236 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:28:09pm

re: #234 EmmmieG

I am growing to appreciate your sense of humor. Slim on dick jokes, but funny none the less.

237 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:29:03pm

Night, lizards.

238 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:31:11pm

I love google earth.

Image: 1.jpg
Image: 2.jpg

239 Big Joe  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:33:41pm

re: #172 Varek Raith

Did not like squirrel.

...but you liked raccoon? How about possum?

240 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:33:58pm

re: #239 mracb

...but you liked raccoon? How about possum?

Never had that.

241 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:35:18pm

Night all!

242 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:36:01pm

Good night everyone.

243 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:36:09pm

re: #238 Varek Raith

I love google earth.

Image: 1.jpg
Image: 2.jpg

Now that I see it, the lake looks different than I remember.

244 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:38:17pm

Ah the memories.
That house has(had?) a badass incline in the back just perfect for sledding.

245 engineer cat  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:38:48pm

re: #235 SanFranciscoZionist

I might have done just as well with that.

On the way back, we got into Tijuana, and then got turned around by a helpful traffic cop, who was lying through her teeth. We shot back down the coast, and finally found a little snackbar-type thing by the side of the road, where I was turned loose to 'speak Spanish' and get directions.

I hopefully asked the teenager behind the counter, "Habla Ingles?"

She giggled and shook her head. I thought, I am going to be an adult. I have taken a whole year of Spanish classes. Ten years ago. I have heard people speaking Spanish every day of my life. I am going to say a whole sentence. I said "Somos..." and then I gave up and said, "San Diego?"

She said something rather detailed. I made her repeat it two or three times, while I tried to remember what the hell 'izquierdo' meant. Finally, I thanked her, walked out, and told my father that if we continued down the road a couple of miles, we would be able to turn left and go back. This only confirmed his belief that I speak Spanish. Like a native.

izquierdo is a very cool word, i think, because it comes from basque

246 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:39:44pm

re: #244 Varek Raith

Ah the memories.
That house has(had?) a badass incline in the back just perfect for sledding.

Drive down Hooper Avenue to see the brand new Ocean County Mall!

//

247 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:41:16pm

re: #246 Gus 802

Drive down Hooper Avenue to see the brand new Ocean County Mall!

//

Spruce Street Elementary!
Oak Street Hospital!
Good grief, why do I recall that so clearly?
Lol.

248 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:42:41pm

re: #245 engineer dog

izquierdo is a very cool word, i think, because it comes from basque

Is THAT it? I couldn't figure it out. I finally remembered it from reading something about politics, but it sounds nothing like Latin.

249 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:44:32pm

re: #247 Varek Raith

Spruce Street Elementary!
Oak Street Hospital!
Good grief, why do I recall that so clearly?
Lol.

It's funny going through Google Maps street view around the Ocean County Mall now and seeing that it's basically the same stuff we have here in Denver.

250 Capt. Kuhn  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:45:19pm

Any Ken Nordine fans here?

Youtube Video
251 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:45:48pm

Looks like even Bank of America is over there now. That used to be just a California bank.

252 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:46:11pm

re: #249 Gus 802

It's funny going through Google Map street view around the Ocean County Mall now and seeing that it's basically the same stuff we have here in Denver.

Man, I should send these pics to my parents. They'll get a kick out of them.

253 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:47:54pm

re: #252 Varek Raith

Man, I should send these pics to my parents. They'll get a kick out of them.

Where they at now? Generally speaking. Mine are still in the same house we moved into back in...hmmm...must have been somewhere around 1974.

254 wheat-dogg  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:48:45pm

I was born on Long Island.

Farthest north: Either Reykjavik, Iceland or Ostersund, Sweden. Too lazy to check the map.
Farthest south: Johannesburg
Farthest east: Visby, Sweden
Farthest west: Chongqing, China

255 sagehen  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:49:25pm

re: #198 Gus 802

There's also a reverse stereotype we have about Europeans. That they're all "high class" Europeans. But that's not true at all and they're simply not familiar with the full spectrum of Europeans including the working class there as well. This is mostly because we create these opinions based on the tourist parts of Europe. No one goes on vacation in the factory towns of Europe. Or gets caught up in a skinhead rally filled with drunken soccer hooligans.

Here's a stereotype that actually is true:

Americans (foolishly) believe that 100 years is a long time ago.
Europeans (foolishly) believe that 100 miles is far away.

256 engineer cat  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:50:01pm

re: #248 SanFranciscoZionist

Is THAT it? I couldn't figure it out. I finally remembered it from reading something about politics, but it sounds nothing like Latin.

ya - if they had taken the latin word like the italians did, it would be sinestra

257 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:50:23pm

re: #253 Gus 802

Where they at now? Generally speaking. Mine are still in the same house we moved into back in...hmmm...must have been somewhere around 1974.

They are in Northern Virgina, near me. So much easier for travel. I just ride my bike there for holidays and what not. They're thinking of moving to Virginia Beach in the near future.

258 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:51:20pm

My grandparents are in Forked River. That place hasn't changed much. Lived there until '89ish.

259 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:53:01pm

re: #257 Varek Raith

They are in Northern Virgina, near me. So much easier for travel. I just ride my bike there for holidays and what not. They're thinking of moving to Virginia Beach in the near future.

Ah. My folks actually pondered retiring near Lynchburg for some time. Never happened. Went to VB a couple of times as a kid. Then later as a semi-adult. Nice area.

260 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:53:58pm

re: #258 Varek Raith

My grandparents are in Forked River. That place hasn't changed much. Lived there until '89ish.

For-Kid River.

//Gotta say it right. //

261 Capt. Kuhn  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:54:55pm

re: #254 wheatdogg

What is the easternmost State in the U.S.?
[Hint: It's also the westerntmost.]

262 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:55:00pm

re: #260 Gus 802

For-Kid River.

//Gotta say it right. //

My grandfather was the guy who could order the shut down of Oyster Creek if needed.
I always thought that was awesome.

263 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:55:31pm

re: #262 Varek Raith

My grandfather was the guy who could order the shut down of Oyster Creek if needed.
I always thought that was awesome.

Remember the sand pits next to that?

264 engineer cat  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:56:32pm

here's something to watch out for with directions in spanish:

derecha - to the right

derecho - straight ahead

tricksy hobbits

265 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:56:41pm

re: #263 Gus 802

Remember the sand pits next to that?

Vaguely.
Though I did read they found a prehistoric skull in there, apparently.

266 sagehen  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:58:28pm

re: #261 captaincoon

What is the easternmost State in the U.S.?
[Hint: It's also the westerntmost.]

Does one of the Hawaiian Islands cross the date line?

267 abolitionist  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 10:59:55pm

re: #162 Varek Raith

Hold up.
Let's start at the beginning.
Who stacks a bunch of dead anythings on the top of a vehicle? Then go shopping with said vehicle? A minivan, no less.

Maybe they realized they didn't have enough freezer bags, or salt, or something else required after a successful hunt. Or maybe they were just out of beer.

268 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:00:33pm

re: #265 Varek Raith

Vaguely.
Though I did read they found a prehistoric skull in there, apparently.

Was a big party area. The dirt roads would connect inside the Pinelands and you could drive for miles and miles. Almost across NJ although I never tried that.

269 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:03:37pm

re: #266 sagehen

Does one of the Hawaiian Islands cross the date line?

Alaska seems more likely. The Aleutian islands chain.

270 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:07:51pm

re: #265 Varek Raith

re: #268 Gus 802

Are you two Emos done hugging each other?
I got important stuffs to talk about!
/

271 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:08:49pm

I'm surprised I could get such a clear pic.
DHS will likely send the black helicopters anytime now.
Image: 3.jpg

272 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:10:08pm

re: #270 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #268 Gus 802

Are you two Emos done hugging each other?
I got important stuffs to talk about!
/

Let's 'mo.

//

273 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:13:19pm

re: #272 Gus 802

Eccì, eccì.
/still wearing false mustache

274 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:13:34pm

re: #271 Varek Raith

I'm surprised I could get such a clear pic.
DHS will likely send the black helicopters anytime now.
Image: 3.jpg

Uh oh!

275 Capt. Kuhn  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:14:53pm

re: #266 sagehen

Close, no cigar, but it's a pretty song.

Youtube Video
276 Capt. Kuhn  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:20:02pm

re: #264 engineer dog

And "Pendejo" means "Friend."

277 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:21:46pm

Back in the day when we used to build things like that. Now, you can't build or do just about anything. Even solar power is being held up for one thing or another. Now, all we do is talk, and talk, and talk. Debate, argue, and make one study after the other.

278 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:22:05pm

re: #274 Gus 802

You want scary? Type this into your browser: "itanimulli.com".
///11ty!

279 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:22:05pm

Iz gunna gets political!

//

280 Lidane  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:22:51pm

re: #279 Gus 802

Iz gunna gets political!

//

[Link: icanhascheezburger.com...]

281 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:23:00pm

re: #278 Slumbering Behemoth

You want scary? Type this into your browser: "itanimulli.com".
///11ty!

lol Funny!

NSA Launches New Crypto Mobile Game App

282 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:23:46pm

re: #280 Lidane

[Link: icanhascheezburger.com...]

I find that highly offensive!

//

283 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:24:31pm

Uh oh! Breaking news!

@KerryFoxLive Kerry R. Fox
Medical Marijuana Activists Issue Warning to Obama #mmj fb.me/W0jSZMU1

284 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:24:49pm

A warning! Glug, glub.

285 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:25:11pm

My drone is flying over your medical marijuana dispensary.

//

286 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:25:25pm

re: #281 Gus 802

One benefit of perusing the conspiracy theorists garbage on the interwebs...

Running across the occasional troll with a wicked sense of humor.

287 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:26:07pm

LOL Look at this...

Medical Marijuana Activists To Obama In 2012: 'We Will Vote For Whoever Is Going To Defend Us'

Check out the loser in the photo there.

288 Capt. Kuhn  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:27:42pm

re: #284 Gus 802

Wasn't that the script for Titanic II?

289 Lidane  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:27:48pm

re: #282 Gus 802

I find that highly offensive!

//

Yes, but have you had dessert yet?

[Link: news.icanhascheezburger.com...]

290 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:28:27pm

re: #288 captaincoon

Wasn't that the script for Titanic II?

Not sure.

292 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:29:30pm

Dave's not here.

293 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:29:35pm

re: #291 Lidane

Big time. What a bunch of dolts.

294 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:30:31pm

Those who would sacrifice Obama for medical marijuana deserve Santorum as president.

295 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:31:09pm

re: #294 Gus 802

Those who would sacrifice Obama for medical marijuana deserve Santorum as president.

Seriously, wtf are they smoking?
...
Wait.

296 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:32:30pm

re: #295 Varek Raith

DON'T. BLAME. THE. HERB!
/those fuckers were stupid before they started smoking

297 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:35:15pm

re: #294 Gus 802

Those who would sacrifice Obama for medical marijuana deserve Santorum as president.

Maybe so, but then the rest of us get him as well. What did I ever do to deserve that?
/

298 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:36:35pm

re: #296 Slumbering Behemoth

DON'T. BLAME. THE. HERB!
/those fuckers were stupid before they started smoking

They ain't smoking that.
They smoking something more...
Potent.

299 Capt. Kuhn  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:36:55pm

I don't know what the rules are about posting videos here, but today is Kim Wilson's birthday -- one of the greatest blues harp players ever.

Youtube Video
300 palomino  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:37:24pm

And one unemployed Santorum is better than two Romneys.

In a decade or so we'll look at Santorum the way we now look at Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms. Bigots holding on to the past for dear life, unable to comprehend any change.

301 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:40:16pm

Geez, allergy attack.
I'll catch you all later.

302 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:40:39pm

re: #298 Varek Raith

They ain't smoking that.
They smoking something more...
Potent.

These boneheads got "medical" marijuana legalized in state through voter referendums knowing that these states laws wouldn't jive with existing Federal laws. Everyone should have seen this coming and it still hasn't faced muster with the FDA if it's really going to be, "medical." Most anyone can get a card and you can go to any charlatan of a doctor who'll write out a prescription for you for the right price.

303 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:43:27pm
THE MOST BANNED VID ON YOUTUBE EVER!

HAARP OR CHEMTRAILS? THIS MUST GO VIRAL. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT VIDEOS EVER MADE SO IT MUST BE VIRAL. Re 8:9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

If you want to see this banned video, you can watch it on *cough*YouTube*cough*

304 Kragar  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:46:03pm

re: #303 Slumbering Behemoth

If you want to see this banned video, you can watch it on *cough*YouTube*cough*

Image: are-you-serious-rage-face-240x180.jpg

305 Capt. Kuhn  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:46:58pm

re: #302 Gus 802

It's cheaper to get it on the street. Legalize it and the quality will be regulated, i.e., better, but the price will go up due to taxes. Then again, no one will have the risk of incarceration for posession of an ounce. Then again, the drug cartels will win due to bootlegging weed. Then again...

306 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:47:17pm

Looks like it's going to be another year where the Democrats are going to have to tell the fringe left to take a hike. You can't convince these people. And neither can you convince the fringe independents that think this way. They're idiots and right up there with truthers.

307 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:49:06pm

re: #303 Slumbering Behemoth

If you want to see this banned video, you can watch it on *cough*YouTube*cough*

What the heck is that?

LOL There's an epidemic of crazy in this world.

308 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:49:19pm

re: #306 Gus 802

Looks like it's going to be another year where the Democrats are going to have to tell the fringe left to take a hike.

If they keep that up, they'll get this Republican's vote.

309 Capt. Kuhn  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:49:30pm

re: #306 Gus 802

"Fringe Independants?" LOL. Never heard that one. I got what you meant, though.

310 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:51:08pm

re: #309 captaincoon

"Fringe Independants?" LOL. Never heard that one. I got what you meant, though.

The basic meaning of independents simply means they're neither Democrats or Republicans. Independent does not mean moderate. They can go in any direction. So yes, there are plenty of fringe independents. I'm being polite here. IOW, yes, there are plenty of psycho wingnuts or moonbats who identify as independents.

311 Lidane  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:53:47pm

re: #306 Gus 802

Looks like it's going to be another year where the Democrats are going to have to tell the fringe left to take a hike. You can't convince these people. And neither can you convince the fringe independents that think this way. They're idiots and right up there with truthers.

The Dems have been openly telling the fringe left to take a hike since Mondale got humiliated by Reagan. It just takes a while for some people to catch on.

Hell, Kos was telling the moonbats to STFU back in 2006 and 2008 because he wanted to win, and ideological purity wasn't going to do it. This year? Expect all but the most fringe far left sites to point at the GOP and ask if people would really rather have them instead of Obama.

312 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:57:15pm
Svali was once a programmer for the Illuminati, where she lived a double-life. She herself has gone through trauma-based mind control since she was a newborn, which split her personality in thousands of fractions as a result. From these fractions, her programmers then built a whole new brain structure; implanting commands, false memories, amnesia and a lot of other things to create a total Illuminati mind controlled slave.

Her task was then to program others in similar ways, so each and every person within the group could be assigned different tasks and accomplish them without hesitation or protest. These tasks could be anything from prostitution to brutal murder.

Like many others born into the Illuminati, from her birth in Germany Svali had no choice in her future, as her wealthy, rich and powerful parents charted her course as a "Chosen Child" from an early age

Because that is exactly what wealthy, rich (redundant much?) powerful parents do to their children. Fracture their psyches in order to enslave the rest of humanity. It's just good parenting.
/

313 Gus  Fri, Jan 6, 2012 11:59:43pm

re: #312 Slumbering Behemoth

Because that is exactly what wealthy, rich (redundant much?) powerful parents do to their children. Fracture their psyches in order to enslave the rest of humanity. It's just good parenting.
/

Oh look more crazy people. What kind of ideology is that?

314 Capt. Kuhn  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:00:39am

re: #310 Gus 802

there are plenty of psycho wingnuts or moonbats who identify as independents.

I was chuckling at the term "fringe independents." They're generally undecided or disinterested lost souls.

315 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:00:56am

re: #311 Lidane

The Dems have been openly telling the fringe left to take a hike since Mondale got humiliated by Reagan. It just takes a while for some people to catch on.

Hell, Kos was telling the moonbats to STFU back in 2006 and 2008 because he wanted to win, and ideological purity wasn't going to do it. This year? Expect all but the most fringe far left sites to point at the GOP and ask if people would really rather have them instead of Obama.

Very true. But I would add that it's not even ideological purity because ideologically I don't agree with these people on these issues. There's nothing pure about some of their idea. They should seriously consider starting another "third" party.

316 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:02:18am

re: #314 captaincoon

I was chuckling at the term "fringe independents." They're generally undecided or disinterested lost souls.

That would be an incorrect assumption. Independents can lean in any direction. David Duke qualifies as an independent.

317 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:05:04am

re: #313 Gus 802

Oh look more crazy people. What kind of ideology is that?

The same kind pimped by Alex Jones, Art Bell, The John Birch Society, and so on...

You haz a fear? I haz a product. Let me sell U somethin'.

318 Capt. Kuhn  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:06:07am

re: #316 Gus 802

That's why I qualified my comment with "generally." Independent sounds safe for those who are embarrassed to make up their minds or who don't follow politics much.

319 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:06:19am

re: #317 Slumbering Behemoth

The same kind pimped by Alex Jones, Art Bell, The John Birch Society, and so on...

You haz a fear? I haz a product. Let me sell U somethin'.

Yep. Healing rocks, naturopathy, homeopathy, and touch therapy being the more mainstream.

320 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:08:23am

re: #318 captaincoon

That's why I qualified my comment with "generally." Independent sounds safe for those who are embarrassed to make up their minds or who don't follow politics much.

True. It's just a sudden realization I had this week. It suddenly dawned on me. There's a lot of crazy independents out there. So to call oneself an independent is no guarantee of pragmatism, logic, reason, etc. Going the other way, yes, you can still be a far-right wingnut and an independent.

321 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:13:29am

Tinfoil hats, heirloom seeds, and GOLDLINE, GOLDLINE, GOLDLINE!

Ole P.T. over shot by 59 seconds.

322 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:14:14am

re: #321 Slumbering Behemoth

Tinfoil hats, heirloom seeds, and GOLDLINE, GOLDLINE, GOLDLINE!

Ole P.T. over shot by 59 seconds.

Did you know you can build bridges and dams with hemp?

//

323 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:15:14am

re: #321 Slumbering Behemoth

Tinfoil hats, heirloom seeds, and GOLDLINE, GOLDLINE, GOLDLINE!

Ole P.T. over shot by 59 seconds.

[Link: www.wholesalependant.org...]

324 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:17:35am

re: #322 Gus 802

Did you know you can build bridges and dams with hemp?

//

And Gus. What does Gus 802 want?

Youtube Video
325 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:20:28am

re: #323 Gus 802

Those Nano Cups are fooking HUGE!!!
/

326 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:20:50am

re: #324 Slumbering Behemoth

And Gus. What does Gus 802 want?

[Video]

I tell ya. Just like I though the wingnuts went away before they came back as the Tea Party... I know that the moonbats are just waiting in the wings and have already started rearing their goofy heads again. And I mean goofy.

327 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:21:45am

re: #325 Slumbering Behemoth

Those Nano Cups are fooking HUGE!!!
/

Looks like they can open up a shop in Santa Fe.

328 Capt. Kuhn  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:22:07am

re: #320 Gus 802
I wasn't trying to be pedantic or snarky at all. The majority of the populace in this country are illiterate in terms of politics because it doesn't interest them. Those people are allowed to vote, and they deserve the right to vote.

I am honestly amazed that some people I talk to have never heard of Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, or can even name ONE of their own State Representatives. AND THESE ARE DEMOCRAT VOTERS!

329 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:23:04am

re: #328 captaincoon

I wasn't trying to be pedantic or snarky at all. The majority of the populace in this country are illiterate in terms of politics because it doesn't interest them. Those people are allowed to vote, and they deserve the right to vote.

I am honestly amazed that some people I talk to have never heard of Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, or can even name ONE of their own State Representatives. AND THESE ARE DEMOCRAT VOTERS!

Yep. Just like you'll have people who are going to vote for Obama that probably never heard of Joe Biden.

330 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:27:09am

re: #326 Gus 802

BTW, that clip was from the film "Run Ronnie Run". A far better lampoon on modern stupidity than "Idiocracy" could ever hope to be. IMHO, anyway.

Worth a rental. And if you feel ripped off, then I'll buy you a beer next time you're in town.

331 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:28:42am

re: #330 Slumbering Behemoth

BTW, that clip was from the film "Run Ronnie Run". A far better lampoon on modern stupidity than "Idiocracy" could ever hope to be. IMHO, anyway.

Worth a rental. And if you feel ripped off, then I'll buy you a beer next time you're in town.

I'll keep it in mind. BTW, you know I do believe that certain sectors in our culture have created their own secular religion of sorts. A lot of this is part of it. It's not a religion per se but a strong mind set with a strong set of rules.

332 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:30:32am

re: #331 Gus 802

Are you trying to diss my pixies, bitch!

333 Capt. Kuhn  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:31:15am

re: #329 Gus 802

You remember Ziegler? He was crapped on for interviewing a small handful of people who voted for Obama, and was called on it. So he commissioned a Zogby poll. With a 5 point margin of error, they confirmed his suspicions. Obama was elected by Tina Fey.

334 freetoken  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:33:00am
MP3 Audio
335 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:35:04am

re: #332 Slumbering Behemoth

Are you trying to diss my pixies, bitch!

New age. Again I go back to the one atheist guy I know. I ask him why the hell they're selling that homeopathy junk at the pharmacy. Well, he think it's real man! The distributor is like the stereotype of who you would expect to be selling that stuff. But if you want to fit in with these folks you can't make waves man! Like everything is cool and if you don't accept their little world that they created out of pixie dust and mind thoughts man you're a Republican man!

"//"

336 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:37:18am

re: #331 Gus 802

I nearly forgot. R. Lee Ermry is in that flick, as well as Mandy Patinkin.

337 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:38:34am

re: #336 Slumbering Behemoth

I nearly forgot. R. Lee Ermry is in that flick, as well as Mandy Patinkin.

Ah see. R. Lee Ermry. One is forbidden to watch R. Lee Ermry. It is written.

//

338 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:39:27am

Can't watch John Wayne movies either. That's a real no no. That will get you kicked out of the cult faster than you can say Jack Robinson*.

*Are we allowed to say Jack Robinson?

//

339 Capt. Kuhn  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:39:31am

re: #333 captaincoon

Youtube Video
340 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:40:02am

You can't watch old Bugs Bunny cartoons either. No war movies either. Bad, bad, bad.

341 engineer cat  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:43:48am

re: #276 captaincoon

And "Pendejo" means "Friend."

oh yes yes pero si, que claro, so now i will always call you pendejo, eh vato, esta bien?

342 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:45:42am

I don't want a free iPad. I want a free Assange. A free Manning. A free speech. A free Topiary. For starters.

And here's the nut that Tweeted that. Some freak Paulian. No change from 00's. Another stupid libertarian fooling the naive emoprogs.

343 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:45:53am

re: #335 Gus 802

As I've likely said before, folks like that get yanked out of "atheist" file, and shoved in the "anti-theist" file. At least in my mind, anyway.

And further, it's been my experience that folks like that are on an "I hate daddy" trip. They take on the atheist moniker not because they lack belief in the super natural, but because they want to lash out at their Christian dad in a juvenile way.

I have much less respect for those types than I do "true believers".

344 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:47:46am

re: #337 Gus 802

Oh, but you have to watch that Mandy Patinkin clip. It's fooking genius.

345 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:48:16am

Ugh. I either have to close my Twitter account or block some folks. That or lay down the law with some what they would consider "offensive" Tweets.

346 Capt. Kuhn  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:48:47am

re: #341 engineer dog

Soy un perro, solamente. Tengo mariposase en mi nariz, y adonde va, adonde va. Tengo dos colores en mi familia, cucho.

347 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:48:53am

re: #344 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, but you have to watch that Mandy Patinkin clip. It's fooking genius.

Remind me tomorrow because right now I'm on the 3G thing. :)

348 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:49:41am

re: #338 Gus 802

Bruce Lee, bitches! You try and take that away from me, and I will go all John Wayne on your asses!!!

349 freetoken  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:50:39am

'69 was a good year for the 5th Dimension. Here is their second hit of that year:

MP3 Audio
350 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:50:51am

re: #347 Gus 802

Remind me tomorrow because right now I'm on the 3G thing. :)

You're counting on my memory? I have some heirloom seeds for sale.
/

351 Capt. Kuhn  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:51:24am

re: #346 captaincoon

Damn. Lotsa typos in that one, mi chucho. Posting comments is dragging.

352 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:52:43am

Hey man. Like wow...

If known for years that if somebody misinterpreted my pro-Liberty stance as being anti-State I could potentially be "Assanged" in future.

353 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:53:35am

:sung with serious, operatic type emotion:

"Can't a man control his bitch with violence?
Y'all are brutalizing me-e-e-e".

Mandy Patinkin, ladies and gentleman.

354 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:54:17am

Uh oh. Looks like people are getting stoned tonight. Another one...

I invest $$ with @aaa because I believe grassroots microloans are better seeds for democracy than bombs and drones.

355 freetoken  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:55:55am

re: #354 Gus 802

Uh oh. Looks like people are getting stoned tonight.

MP3 Audio
356 engineer cat  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:58:07am

re: #346 captaincoon

Soy un perro, solamente. Tengo mariposase en mi nariz, y adonde va, adonde va. Tengo dos colores en mi familia, cucho.

mariposas en nariz, me gusta mucho - estan disponibles en mi ristorante

357 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:59:59am

I never got Andrew Sullivan.

358 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:00:40am

re: #352 Gus 802

"Assanged"? An alleged rapist living in luxury, a purveyor of classified intel living free? An egotistical douche bag living the life of a predatory jet-setter, while presuming to lord his Robin Hood status over those he pretends to speak for?

We should all hope to be "Assanged", should we posses the souls to sell for such a lifestyle.

359 Capt. Kuhn  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:01:06am

re: #352 Gus 802

I was looking for Zappa's "Chucha" to rub it, but you'll like this better.

Youtube Video
360 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:01:24am

re: #354 Gus 802

Don't. Blame. The. Herb.

361 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:02:25am

re: #358 Slumbering Behemoth

"Assanged"? An alleged rapist living in luxury, a purveyor of classified intel living free? An egotistical douche bag living the life of a predatory jet-setter, while presuming to lord his Robin Hood status over those he pretends to speak for?

We should all hope to be "Assanged", should we posses the souls to sell for such a lifestyle.

He was bailed out by who? Like 3 millionaires? Seriously. They can take their crunchy-fringe Indymedia bullshit and their Guy Fawkes masks and...

Smiley face!

362 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:03:21am

re: #360 Slumbering Behemoth

Don't. Blame. The. Herb.

Ah so you know then. Yeah. Last time I watched him on video talking about Hitchens after his death. Whew. Sullivan was obviously baked.

363 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:07:13am

re: #362 Gus 802

There once was a Zionist smoker here. Anytime someone made jokes about pot heads acting stupid, that was his "goto" line. "Don't blame the herb".

Gotta say I agree. The weed don't make you stupid. But if you're stupid to begin with, it sure don't help.

364 Capt. Kuhn  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:08:55am

re: #356 engineer dog

Y a tu tambien. Me gusta para los caracoles cuando vayamos como suertos y duenos en la ciel de los pinci tortugas.

365 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:09:30am

re: #363 Slumbering Behemoth

There once was a Zionist smoker here. Anytime someone made jokes about pot heads acting stupid, that was his "goto" line. "Don't blame the herb".

Gotta say I agree. The weed don't make you stupid. But if you're stupid to begin with, it sure don't help.

I suppose so. But it's good to take breaks. Smoking everyday from morning until night will fry your brain. It should be avoided at all costs.

366 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:10:49am

re: #365 Gus 802

I suppose so. But it's good to take breaks. Smoking everyday from morning until night will fry your brain. It should be avoided at all costs.

QFMFT!

Just like alcohol, don't abuse it.

367 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:12:04am

re: #365 Gus 802

I suppose so. But it's good to take breaks. Smoking everyday from morning until night will fry your brain. It should be avoided at all costs.

And I did that for a time. It got to the point that I was too burnt out and lazy to pack another bowl.
/

368 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:14:25am

re: #367 Slumbering Behemoth

And I did that for a time. It got to the point that I was too burnt out and lazy to pack another bowl.
/

Yes. And strange. Imagine talking with your mom stoned? Going to the store, stoned. Taking a shower, stoned. Riding in your car, stoned. Reading a book, stoned. Watching TV, stoned. Going to work, stoned. Stoned. Stoned. Stoned.

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.

//

369 engineer cat  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:16:26am

re: #364 captaincoon

Y a tu tambien. Me gusta para los caracoles cuando vayamos como suertos y duenos en la ciel de los pinci tortugas.

pinche

370 researchok  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:16:43am

Morning, all

371 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:16:51am

re: #368 Gus 802

Yes. And strange. Imagine talking with your mom stoned? Going to the store, stoned. Taking a shower, stoned. Riding in your car, stoned. Reading a book, stoned. Watching TV, stoned. Going to work, stoned. Stoned. Stoned. Stoned.

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.

//

I'm reminded of a big money saving tip that the comedian Gallagher once passed on in his early stand-up days.

"Don't smoke weed when you're stoned".

372 Capt. Kuhn  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:17:07am

re: #364 captaincoon

For those here who don't hobble the spaniel, it's gibberish.

"And also for you. I like for the snails, when they go with luck and dreams in the heaven of the fucking turtles."

You're welcome.

373 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:19:46am

re: #371 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm reminded of a big money saving tip that the comedian Gallagher once passed on in his early stand-up days.

"Don't smoke weed when you're stoned".

Sounds like a plan.

Anyway, I better get. Hasta later.

And later folks.

374 Capt. Kuhn  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:20:02am

re: #369 engineer dog

Espanol spelling nazi? ;)

375 engineer cat  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:23:02am

re: #374 captaincoon

Espanol spelling nazi? ;)

jejejeje! :-)

376 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:25:14am

re: #373 Gus 802

I tell you what, though. You have not lived until you've smoked an entire eighth to your head while listening to this.
///

377 Capt. Kuhn  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:28:25am

re: #375 engineer dog

ja ja ja

378 Capt. Kuhn  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:38:47am

re: #371 Slumbering Behemoth
And if you do, there's always this to look forward to tomorrow morning:

Youtube Video

Say goodnight, Rachel.
379 freetoken  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:53:34am

Put this one up not long ago... but it is worth a rehearing.

Adagio mvt. from Gayane Ballet Suite:

MP3 Audio
380 AK-47%  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 2:18:58am

re: #365 Gus 802

I suppose so. But it's good to take breaks. Smoking everyday from morning until night will fry your brain. It should be avoided at all costs.

Youtube Video
381 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 2:24:16am

re: #333 captaincoon

You remember Ziegler? He was crapped on for interviewing a small handful of people who voted for Obama, and was called on it. So he commissioned a Zogby poll. With a 5 point margin of error, they confirmed his suspicions. Obama was elected by Tina Fey.

I heard that is exactly how Sarah Palin was "assassinated". ///

e_e

382 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 2:27:18am

re: #381 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Derpitty derp derp derp-derp

What a stupid idiot.

383 Kragar  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 2:35:21am

Off to bed, to read about the aftermath of the Istvaan V drop site massacre

The Drop Site Massacre is the most commonly used term for the Battle of Istvaan V, one of the first open military conflicts between the traitor forces of the Warmaster Horus and the loyalist forces of the Emperor. Occurring at the outset of the Horus Heresy it is considered a rubicon moment in Imperial history, as it marked the moment where the traitor legions were irrevocably committed to galactic civil war. The effects and aftermaths of the battle - particularly amongst the Legiones Astartes - would still be echoing ten thousand years later.

384 Capt. Kuhn  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 3:27:01am

re: #381 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

re: #382 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The humor kind of soared right over your head, huh? :)

385 AK-47%  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 3:36:13am

"I won't run negative ads but I reserve the right to tell the truth!"

386 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 5:16:34am

re: #363 Slumbering Behemoth

Americans use drugs as if consumption bestowed a 'special license' to be an asshole. Whatever heinous act they might have participated in the night before can be instantly excused by saying they were 'high' while they were doing it.

Through the magic of Altered Body Chemistry, America in the eighties has devolved into an enormous hatchery for consumers. Corporate policy (itself influenced by drugs and alcohol) has decreed the breeding and maintenance of hundreds of millions of helpless illiterates, destined to spend their lives buying useless shit. When the shopping spree is over, the victims of this policy will gather in sad little groups and show their 'treasures' to each other, discussing how they're going to keep them, since the government is always trying to tax them away.

So, how do they deal with this sort of stress? Sex would seem to be the most efficient natural solution, but these mutants have been driven to 'secondary sources' by lunatic doctrines (religious and political) which
propound that sex is bad.

People who don't have an outlet often turn to violence -- like those All-American bubbas who can't get laid and express themselves by pounding the snot out of each other in the parking lot of the neighborhood bar.

-- Frank Zappa, 1986

387 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 5:17:00am

I think the Constitution is no longer a living document. Can you imagine trying to get an amendment passed in this day and age?

The courts are the only place that now develop the Constitution.

388 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 5:22:31am

The founding fathers feared four things a lot.

One was party politics.

One was a standing army.

One was the power of corporations.

One was rank populism.

Have a look around.

389 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 5:37:59am

Morning all!

Coffee is good.

How are you?

390 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 5:40:01am

re: #388 Obdicut

The founding fathers feared four things a lot.

One was party politics.

One was a standing army.

One was the power of corporations.

One was rank populism.

And clowns.

391 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 6:23:37am

re: #389 ggt

Morning all!

Coffee is good.

How are you?

Heading to
1) the shower
2) Dunkin Donuts for my drive to work cuppa
3) Quick Trip for my re-fill drive to work cuppa
4) work
5) the kitchen at work to make a pot of cuppas

392 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 6:27:14am

re: #391 sattv4u2

Oh ,, and prior to all that,, heading up to the Bottom Comments to add a host of - dings to captaincoon

CAP ,, I gave you the benefit of the doubt when I 1st saw you post
You have proven to me what you are!

393 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 6:38:31am

Still playing with my new Camera.

When this one dies, I think I'll be at a point in my life where I'd be better off buying the disposables at the drug store and just using those.

I don't think I'll have it in me to learn how to use another device.

I still haven't learned how to turn-on our new TV.

That's a lie, I can turn it on, I just can't fine the button that allows me to switch cable channels.

394 nines09  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 6:39:18am

Good morning.
I think Rick is on autopilot now. He just lost Iowa (by this . much) because he didn't go hard enough. I see where the evangelicals want the other candidates to drop out so Rick can be anointed. What a show we have coming up. What a show.

395 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 6:43:15am

Have a great morning

bbl

396 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 6:49:35am

Beezow Doo-Doo Zopittybop-Bop-Bop, 30, Arrested By Madison, Wisc. Police
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

...
Beezow Doo-Doo Zopittybop-Bop-Bop, 30, was arrested Thursday afternoon on charges of carrying a concealed weapon, possession of drug paraphernalia, possession of marijuana and a violation of probation in Madison, Wisc.

Zopittybop-Bop-Bop was born Jeffrey Drew Wilschke, according to court records unearthed by the Capital Times. He legally changed his name to Beezow Doo-Doo Zoopittybop-Bop-Bop in October.

According to Zopittybop-Bop-Bop's apparent Facebook account, when he's not in trouble with the law he enjoys activities including "eating," "standing," walking," "thinking," and "diamond." He's also single... so there's that, ladies.

Zopittybop-Bop-Bop was apprehended by authorities after neighbors complained of "excessive drinking and drug use" around a local park, the Madison police report says.

It's a good thing they don't require drug tests when you legally change your name.

397 darthstar  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:01:49am

re: #396 RogueOne

Beezow Doo-Doo Zopittybop-Bop-Bop, 30, Arrested By Madison, Wisc. Police
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

It's a good thing they don't require drug tests when you legally change your name.

My friends call me Doo-Doo.

398 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:04:38am

Homosexuality is a “disease,” says top Iran human rights official

In Iran, homosexuality is punishable by death, which has strict Islamic laws.

“These kind of statements are absolutely ridiculous and do nothing but make Iran the laughing stock of the world,” gay Iranian Hassan Kamal, who lives in the UK, told Bikyamasr.com.

Kamal, who has campaigned for greater rights for the LGBT community inside Iran, argued that these statements are made to shock.

“The leaders in Iran, know very well that gay people exist in their country, but they want to give the impression of fear to its citizens and reassuring them that gay people are not there and if they are, they will kill them,” he added.

399 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:05:08am

re: #398 Killgore Trout

Santorum might poll better over there.

400 darthstar  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:06:09am

re: #398 Killgore Trout

Homosexuality is a “disease,” says top Iran human rights official

Rick Santorum is a top Iranian human rights official?

401 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:08:14am

re: #398 Killgore Trout

Killgore - I saw your comment about your psycho cat deciding to condemn you to a stink house (and then you'll really be Killgore Trout Stinks???).

Anyhow - a check by the vet might be in order. A cat that doesn't go where it's supposed to go might have some sort of medical problem going on.

My old cat is wasting away, losing weight - but the vet won't put her to sleep as long as she is:
Eating & drinking
Going to the bathroom where she's supposed to go.
Is mobile.
Is interacting with us.

Any problems with any of those, apparently, could indicate a medical problem for your cat.

402 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:14:00am

re: #401 reine.de.tout

Killgore - I saw your comment about your psycho cat deciding to condemn you to a stink house (and then you'll really be Killgore Trout Stinks???).

Anyhow - a check by the vet might be in order. A cat that doesn't go where it's supposed to go might have some sort of medical problem going on.

My old cat is wasting away, losing weight - but the vet won't put her to sleep as long as she is:
Eating & drinking
Going to the bathroom where she's supposed to go.
Is mobile.
Is interacting with us.

Any problems with any of those, apparently, could indicate a medical problem for your cat.

The cats are due for a checkup soon. She's eating, drinking and destroying cardboard boxes as her usual self. She's always had difficulty with the litter box concept, even as a kitten. I think it's just the way she is.

403 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:15:24am

re: #402 Killgore Trout

I'm going to try to train one of my cats-- the crazy one-- to crap in the toilet.

404 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:18:12am

re: #403 Obdicut

I'm going to try to train one of my cats-- the crazy one-- to crap in the toilet.

There are doctors who can help you with these feelings.

405 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:20:00am

re: #404 negativ

There are doctors who can help you with these feelings.

The feeling that I'd rather my cat crap in the toilet instead of having to have a separate litter box that he insists on being cleaned instantly?

I don't want help with that.

And he's crazy enough to be trainable. He has an insatiable desire to please.

406 Kronocide  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:21:08am

Paulians acting Breitbarty.

407 darthstar  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:21:44am

re: #405 Obdicut

[Link: www.citikitty.com...]

408 jaunte  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:23:07am

re: #406 BigPapa

'Foreign languages are un-American'
--Navajo code talker

409 darthstar  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:23:42am

re: #407 darthstar

[Link: www.citikitty.com...]

Won't work with my cat though..."You want me TO PEE THERE? I drink out of that thing."

410 Kronocide  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:24:34am

Satire Comment Winner:

I absolutely agree with the ad. No one, especially someone running for president should know a foreign language, especially one that is spoken in a country that will be our rival in a few short years.

According to Rep. Gil Gutknecht, fewer than one-third of members of Congress have passports. How come this traitor has one and even has visited a foreign country? It's just shameful that any loyal American would venture outside of our borders where they could be made impure by communicating with foreigners.

411 steve_davis  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:27:13am

re: #9 efuseakay

So Rick, when you criminalize same-sex marriage, you'd be ok with a child having two fathers? Good to know!

as long as both fathers are in prison.

412 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:35:52am

re: #398 Killgore Trout

In Iran, homosexuality is punishable by death

I thought dinnerjacket said there aren't any there!!

(homosexuals ,, not 'punishables by death', which i'm sure there's an abundant of there)

413 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:36:56am

re: #401 reine.de.tout

My old cat is wasting away, losing weight - but the vet won't put her to sleep as long as she is:
Eating & drinking
Going to the bathroom where she's supposed to go.
Is mobile.
Is interacting with us

My wife says the doctor told her the same thing about me!!

414 Kronocide  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 8:37:17am

There are no homosexuals in Iran. They've all been executed.

415 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:00:55am

re: #414 BigPapa

There are no homosexuals in Iran. They've all been executed.

Not true! Life in fact is awesomely awesome for gays, lesbians and transsexuals in Iran! We could never convince ourselves otherwise.

//

416 albusteve  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:02:42am

another teen taking out the bad guys at home...castle doctrine at work
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

417 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:04:40am

re: #416 albusteve

Poor kid.

418 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:04:56am

re: #384 captaincoon

re: #382 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The humor kind of soared right over your head, huh? :)

You didn't understand the posts. That's on you.

419 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:10:18am

re: #383 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Off to bed, to read about the aftermath of the Istvaan V drop site massacre

You are a scientologist??

420 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:18:32am

re: #396 RogueOne

Beezow Doo-Doo Zopittybop-Bop-Bop, 30, Arrested By Madison, Wisc. Police
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

It's a good thing they don't require drug tests when you legally change your name.

Gee. What a surprise.

//

422 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:19:55am

re: #413 sattv4u2

My old cat is wasting away, losing weight - but the vet won't put her to sleep as long as she is:
Eating & drinking
Going to the bathroom where she's supposed to go.
Is mobile.
Is interacting with us

My wife says the doctor told her the same thing about me!!

LOL. Wifey is a smart woman.

423 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:20:34am

re: #420 Gus 802

Gee. What a surprise.

//

You can't fix stupid

Youtube Video
424 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:21:18am

re: #423 sattv4u2

You can't fix stupid

[Video]

Do not ridicule those with "medical" needs!

//

425 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:23:08am

re: #421 BigPapa

When we're at wahr wit dem A-rabs, we don't need no A-rab preza-dent

Lol dumb confederate bigots.

426 jaunte  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:25:48am

re: #421 BigPapa

Her tape is stuck on replay.

428 jaunte  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:28:16am

re: #421 BigPapa

Related:

Casual allegations of treason

...as the Republican Party has become radicalized, such rhetoric has become routine. GOP officials and their allies have no qualms about using labels like “socialist,” “communist,” and even “fascist” — without any regard for what those words actually mean — and after a while, we just roll our eyes. There they go again, accusing Americans they don’t like of sedition, disloyalty, and national betrayal. It must be a day that ends with “y.”

But here’s hoping that the tide will eventually turn, that ridiculous accusations will stop being acceptable by attrition, and that Americans will start remembering that they’re wrong.

429 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:39:31am

Oh brother. Now we're responsible for the Palestinian "Sesame Street."

I give up.

430 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:42:18am

re: #429 Gus 802

Oh brother. Now we're responsible for the Palestinian "Sesame Street."

I give up.

How many mbillions of aid did Arafat skim for himself/ family over the years? Perhaps they can find some of that money to recoup the funds

431 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:45:11am

re: #430 sattv4u2

How many mbillions of aid did Arafat skim for himself/ family over the years? Perhaps they can find some of that money to recoup the funds

That would never happen! Hamas leadership is also as pure as the driven snow. Once again we find that it's the imperialist Americans fault! //

So how much is the net worth of the leadership there now? And after years and years of getting "free money" not just from the USA. Why don't they ask their billionaire "allies" in Saudi Arabia to take up the slack.

432 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:48:34am

re: #431 Gus 802

That would never happen! Hamas leadership is also as pure as the driven snow. Once again we find that it's the imperialist Americans fault! //

So how much is the net worth of the leadership there now? And after years and years of getting "free money" not just from the USA. Why don't they ask their billionaire "allies" in Saudi Arabia to take up the slack.

What,,, and miss a chance to blame America, which you know is controlled by Zionist interests!!

433 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:48:45am

Gaza domestic funding

Hamas approved a 540 million dollar government budget for 2010 with up to 90% coming from "undisclosed" foreign aid which includes funding from Iran and Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood according to western intelligence agencies. Due to the Gaza blockade, Hamas still faces a financial crisis. With a bureaucracy of around 30,000 staff, the organisation is growing faster than can be handled with salaries being delayed or prioritised for the lowest paid. To fund it's budget, Hamas has raised new taxes on businesses and imposed a 14.5% tax on luxury goods smuggled through the tunnels. Gaza businessmen have accused Hamas of profiting from the blockade and using these taxes to buy large tracts of land and private buildings for public facilities in competition to established businesses.

In August 2011, the U.S State Department threatened to cut a 100 million dollars in aid it sends to the Gaza Strip if Hamas continues to insist upon auditing American foreign aid organizations after Hamas suspended operations of the International Medical Corps following the group's refusal to submit to an onsite audit. Most foreign charities submit their own audits to the Interior Ministry in Ramallah. Charities must be audited by law, possibly to ensure money is not diverted for political or intelligence-gathering purposes but as the U.S. government forbids direct contact with Hamas the action prompted Washington to issue the threat via a third party. Aid provided by American and other foreign groups goes to hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza, where most of the 1.6 million residents are refugees.

A US official based in the region said "USAID-funded partner organizations operating in Gaza are forced by Hamas's actions to suspend their assistance work. (They) were put on hold effective August 12." According to the official, Hamas demanded access to files and records of NGOs, which would reveal financial and administrative information, details of staff members and information on beneficiaries. He said Hamas shut down IMC and USAID after the US objected to "unwarranted audits". Hamas administration official Taher al-Nono said Hamas had a right to monitor their work in the territory but an understanding had been reached that would allow independent auditing teams to inspect the files of NGOs...

But yes. They're always the victim here and once again it's the USA's and of course all Israels fault. Especially when reading from The Guardian.

434 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:49:31am

re: #432 sattv4u2

What,,, and miss a chance to blame America, which you know is controlled by Zionist interests!!

The Trilaterals and the Rothschilds!

Lizard people are coming to eats mah babies!

//

435 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:54:36am

re: #428 jaunte

McCarthy would approve.

436 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:54:41am

Corruption Perception Index

The Palestinian Authority could not be included in Transparency International’s Corruption Perception Index of 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 for lack of a sufficient number of surveys. In 2005 it scored 2.5 and was ranked 108th, tied with Libya, behind Algeria but ahead of Yemen, among 159 countries.

437 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:57:33am

Can we say bullshit?

438 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:59:42am

re: #433 Gus 802

Gaza domestic funding

But yes. They're always the victim here and once again it's the USA's and of course all Israels fault. Especially when reading from The Guardian.

I've been following Haniya's diplomatic outreach mission. Egypt and Sudan (to secure safer bases and smuggling routes) and Turkey. I'm not sure what Turkey has to offer aside from more crappy Peace Activist ships. I really think the situation with Egypt is going to get really bad once the MB secures power.

439 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:00:36am

re: #436 Gus 802

Corruption Perception Index

The dog ate my survey

440 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:01:43am

re: #438 Killgore Trout

I've been following Haniya's diplomatic outreach mission. Egypt and Sudan (to secure safer bases and smuggling routes) and Turkey. I'm not sure what Turkey has to offer aside from more crappy Peace Activist ships. I really think the situation with Egypt is going to get really bad once the MB secures power.

Never underestimate the ability for humans to engage in social entropy. Currently we're watching Iraq slowly destroy what is effectively a clean slate. They're going to continue to "paint themselves blue and dance under the moon" in that region for 100s of years to come.

441 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:02:31am

re: #439 sattv4u2

The dog ate my survey

Not true! That information is provided by the Israeli and US controlled United Nations!

No! Wait a second here...

//

442 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:03:23am

'Islamist success in Egypt puts Israel in peril'

The success of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egyptian parliamentary elections and the Islamist party's pending inclusion in the government is a victory for the Palestinians and puts Israel's security situation in peril, Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh said in an interview with The Independent published on Saturday.

While US State Department Spokesperson Victoria Nuland said Thursday that the Muslim Brotherhood had given Washington assurances that it would honor Egypt's peace treaty with Israel, Haniyeh said that Cairo would no longer close its border with Gaza to help Israel blockade the territory, nor would it support any Israeli military operations in the Strip.


"The Palestinian cause is winning," Haniyeh was quoted as saying by the Independent . "With the Muslim Brotherhood part of the government [in Egypt], they [the Egyptians] will not besiege Gaza. They will not arrest Palestinians. They will not give cover to Israel to launch a war."

The Hamas leader stated that he envisions his cause benefiting from the changes occurring in the region, and Israel suffering from the developments.

"Gaza was a main reason for the Arab Spring. It was people's anger at the regimes that co-operated with Israel and did not recognize the government here," Haniyeh said.

443 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:03:42am

Por ejemplo:

Racketeering and extortion become common practices, but were described by PA officials as part of an Israeli conspiracy. To the Palestinian public, an economy controlled by the Palestinian Authority's leaders and their relatives – including both sons of the Palestinian president who, among other things, won a shady US government contract to fix a road – has become just another sad fact of life.

444 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:04:38am

Right. It's not really PA corruption. It's just an Israeli/CIA/Mossad/USA/Obama/Drone plot. Uh huh.

//

445 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:05:48am

re: #440 Gus 802

Never underestimate the ability for humans to engage in social entropy. Currently we're watching Iraq slowly destroy what is effectively a clean slate. They're going to continue to "paint themselves blue and dance under the moon" in that region for 100s of years to come.

I'm not so sure about Iraq. I still think the country will remain somewhat stable. Sure there are plenty of sectarian clashes, Suicide bombings, kindappings and political assassinations but that's pretty standard for the region. It's just they way they do business.

446 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:06:17am

hi from firenze

447 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:06:50am

re: #445 Killgore Trout

I'm not so sure about Iraq. I still think the country will remain somewhat stable. Sure there are plenty of sectarian clashes, Suicide bombings, kindappings and political assassinations but that's pretty standard for the region. It's just they way they do business.

That's pretty funny. I mean that in a good way.

448 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:07:59am

re: #446 Sergey Romanov

hi from firenze

Such a beautiful place! What's your favorite part?

449 albusteve  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:09:28am

re: #440 Gus 802

Never underestimate the ability for humans to engage in social entropy. Currently we're watching Iraq slowly destroy what is effectively a clean slate. They're going to continue to "paint themselves blue and dance under the moon" in that region for 100s of years to come.

if they don't get incinerated first

451 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:10:39am

re: #448 wrenchwench

Such a beautiful place! What's your favorite part?

i've arrived in the 2nd half of the day so i haven't seen much. tho i find flo much more comfy than rome. now dining somewhere near palazzo pitti.

452 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:11:49am

re: #446 Sergey Romanov

Perché visitare Firenze?

453 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:12:27am

re: #452 Obdicut

coz why not

454 albusteve  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:12:54am

re: #450 Gus 802

ICYMI:

Medical Marijuana Activists To Obama In 2012: 'We Will Vote For Whoever Is Going To Defend Us'

The latest in Paulbot/moonbat/pothead stupidity.

good weed is plentiful coast to coast and no president is gonna touch the issue...plus legalizing med pot will probably drive the price up and availability down...leave well enough alone...the feds don't give a shit about medical weed in terms of pain relief

455 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:13:25am

re: #451 Sergey Romanov

Fatta eccezione per il Duomo, che incombe sulla città come l'incudine di dio.

456 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:13:57am

re: #454 albusteve

How would legalizing medical pot drive the price up and availability down, please?

457 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:17:12am

re: #454 albusteve

good weed is plentiful coast to coast and no president is gonna touch the issue...plus legalizing med pot will probably drive the price up and availability down...leave well enough alone...the feds don't give a shit about medical weed in terms of pain relief

Yes but could have, should have, would have. Otherwise right now the state laws don't jive with existing Federal laws. They never did and these "medical" marijuana proponents should have been aware of this a long time ago. Otherwise it become a complicated issue. Medical marijuana would have to be decriminalized and removed from the DEA's dangerous substances list. Otherwise right now what I'm really seeing here is a 10th Amendment issue and ironically a "state's rights" argument coming from the marijuana cult.

458 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:19:25am

dave and lil dave asked to say hi too

Image: DSC00111.JPG

459 albusteve  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:19:55am

re: #456 Obdicut

How would legalizing medical pot drive the price up and availability down, please?

who's he, BO?...he can't legalize anything any more than Paul can

460 albusteve  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:21:00am

re: #457 Gus 802

Yes but could have, should have, would have. Otherwise right now the state laws don't jive with existing Federal laws. They never did and these "medical" marijuana proponents should have been aware of this a long time ago. Otherwise it become a complicated issue. Medical marijuana would have to be decriminalized and removed from the DEA's dangerous substances list. Otherwise right now what I'm really seeing here is a 10th Amendment issue and ironically a "state's rights" argument coming from the marijuana cult.

correct, I agree

461 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:21:36am

re: #459 albusteve

who's he, BO?...he can't legalize anything any more than Paul can

That's not an answer, Steve. How would legalizing medical pot drive the price up and availability down, please?

462 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:21:36am

re: #458 Sergey Romanov

dave and lil dave asked to say hi too

Image: DSC00111.JPG

Does it seem different in person? I stood in front of the Liberty Bell and felt like "Yeah, looks just like the pictures."

463 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:22:14am

re: #462 EmmmieG

Does it seem different in person? I stood in front of the Liberty Bell and felt like "Yeah, looks just like the pictures."

akshully yes, it's like the pics.

464 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:22:50am

Surprise!

Iranians Welcome, Dismiss and Complain About U.S. Rescue of Fishermen
By ROBERT MACKEY

One day after the United States Navy rescued 13 Iranian fishermen from Somali pirates in the North Arabian Sea, the response from Iran ranged across a wide spectrum, from gratitude to suspicion.

Agence France-Presse reported that a foreign ministry spokesman, Ramin Mehmanparast, was the most effusive. In an interview with Iran’s official Arabic-language broadcaster on Saturday the spokesman said: “We consider the actions of the U.S. forces in saving the lives of the Iranian seamen to be a humanitarian and positive act and we welcome such behavior.”

Iran’s foreign minister, Ali Akbar Salehi, told another state-financed satellite channel, Press TV, that the American military’s rescue operation was fairly routine and would not lessen the tensions between the two nations...

465 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:23:03am

re: #463 Sergey Romanov

akshully yes, it's like the pics.

I'm told that the Mona Lisa is something that you really have to see in person to understand.

I hope to let you know on the truth of that statement someday.

466 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:23:36am

re: #451 Sergey Romanov

i've arrived in the 2nd half of the day so i haven't seen much. tho i find flo much more comfy than rome. now dining somwhere near palazzo pitti.

I was there as a poor college student a long time ago. Can't go wrong with eating. I loved the Uffizi Gallery, where they were using a little crane to move some massive sculptures for some reason. I was coming down with a cold, so I went to my room early. It was on the third floor in a former convent, and had a soccer pitch in the courtyard, and I watched the soccer players get bigger and older as the evening got later.

467 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:23:46am

The country’s Fars News Agency, which has close ties to the powerful Republican Guard Corps, suggested that the rescue had been staged.

According to A.F.P. the Iranian news agency complained that “Iran’s navy has on so many occasions rescued foreign ships from pirates, but they have never been praised and hailed by foreign media, not that Iranian navy officials were looking for propaganda.”

468 darthstar  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:23:49am

Kindle test.

Works, but. Keyboard to. Page. Is. Slow.

Insert. Button. Adds. Periods

469 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:23:58am

Yeesh.

470 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:24:42am

re: #465 EmmmieG

I'm told that the Mona Lisa is something that you really have to see in person to understand.

I hope to let you know on the truth of that statement someday.

well, i've seen her last summer. nothing spectacular ;)

471 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:25:28am

re: #470 Sergey Romanov

well, i've seen her last summer. nothing spectacular ;)

Darn.

472 albusteve  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:25:35am

re: #461 Obdicut

That's not an answer, Steve. How would legalizing medical pot drive the price up and availability down, please?

that's if the only available weed is sanctioned medical...at that point illegal growers and sellers and used would like face federal charges and the higher the risk the higher the cost...it's hypothetical

473 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:25:47am

re: #466 wrenchwench

uffizi tomorrow

474 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:26:06am

re: #472 albusteve

Yeah, that makes no sense. Figured.

475 albusteve  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:26:34am

re: #474 Obdicut

Yeah, that makes no sense. Figured.

LOL!

476 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:26:44am

re: #473 Sergey Romanov

Make sure you look up. The ceilings in the Uffizi are freaking amazing.

477 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:27:54am

Fars reported that video of the rescue released by the U.S. was “like a Hollywood film with a fixed location and specific actors,” which “shows the Americans were looking at using it for propaganda advantage.”

478 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:30:04am

In the end. It really doesn't matter what the Dinnerjacket propaganda machine thinks. The USA rescued those guys and there's no two ways around it.

479 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:31:49am

And as expected. From our side of the pond and as I predicted:

Empire Still: Obama’s Misguided Pentagon Strategy

480 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:36:15am

re: #465 EmmmieG

I'm told that the Mona Lisa is something that you really have to see in person to understand.

I hope to let you know on the truth of that statement someday.

Mona is behind a bunch of glass. I think seeing sculptures in person makes a bigger difference than seeing paintings in person. This one blew me away. Looked like life, but, you know, white and not moving. She's turning into a tree.

481 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:37:55am

re: #479 Gus 802

And as expected. From our side of the pond and as I predicted:

Empire Still: Obama’s Misguided Pentagon Strategy

The attached was approved by the Ron Paul for President committee!!!

//

482 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:38:55am

re: #481 sattv4u2

The attached was approved by the Ron Paul for President committee!!!

//

They seem to think Dennis Kucinich is in the White House.

483 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:38:56am

The new book on the Obamas has been released, and the right wing blogs are absolutely full of racist comments.

484 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:41:29am

re: #482 Gus 802

They seem to think Dennis Kucinich is in the White House.

Paul/ Kucincich

there's a pair that would beat a full house any day of the week!

485 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:42:23am

This got caught in my spam filter. Don't click on the video unless you really like Rick Astley. Probably shouldn't click on the other links either, but the "butthurtreportform" is funny.

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486 sagehen  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:48:02am

Canada has something to say about our elections:

Youtube Video
487 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:49:57am

The Mitchell and Webb Situation Farming

Youtube Video

NSFW language
488 jaunte  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:50:59am

re: #483 Charles

Some commenters at TheBlaze pretending there is no racism:

Give me a break, I am a member of 99% of Americans who don’t see color; so Michelle your quote: “everyone was waiting for a black woman to make a mistake”.

This is just another one your‘s and your husband’s class / racial / financial and religous warefare comments to divide our great country! Get out of the 60′s…that‘s the 1860’s!

Followed by:

Damn I think I saw one of these on Nat Geo the other night. Usually these species or the Mome-Bak-Tribe infiltrate the Waste Management Division and are used on the back of Garbage Truck. You can hear their distint cry, “mome bak mome bak mome bak which in English means Come On Back. Other tribes are there also, Motese tribe. Their call would be motesesir, motesesir-which means More Tea Sir

489 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:51:04am

re: #400 darthstar

Rick Santorum is a top Iranian human rights official?

He'd probably fit right in, except he wouldn't learn Farsi, because they should learn English, and the food would be too weird for him, and also it would annoy him that people thought those pinafore outfits his daughters wear are immodest.

490 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:52:45am

Hey all,

How is the day going?

491 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:53:16am

re: #488 jaunte

Some commenters at TheBlaze pretending there is no racism:

Followed by:

Oh look! It even has a dose of sexism:

This is just another one your‘s and your husband’s class / racial / financial and religous warefare comments to divide our great country!

492 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:53:52am

re: #490 ggt

Hey all,

How is the day going?

remember that drive to work coffee I told you about earlier?

remember that drive to work coffee re-fill I told you about earlier?

remember that potta that I was gonna make once I got here?

All Gone!

493 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:54:37am

re: #446 Sergey Romanov

hi from firenze

LUCKY!

494 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:56:00am

re: #478 Gus 802

In the end. It really doesn't matter what the Dinnerjacket propaganda machine thinks. The USA rescued those guys and there's no two ways around it.

Which, I'm sure, matters to those guys and their families, so that's good.

495 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:56:35am

re: #480 wrenchwench

Mona is behind a bunch of glass. I think seeing sculptures in person makes a bigger difference than seeing paintings in person. This one blew me away. Looked like life, but, you know, white and not moving. She's turning into a tree.

I wrote a paper on that one once. Bernini did amazing things with marble.

496 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:56:51am

re: #487 Killgore Trout

Pull it off, sell it. Fucking grows back again.
You can not lose.

497 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:57:04am

re: #483 Charles

The new book on the Obamas has been released, and the right wing blogs are absolutely full of racist comments.

Are those related comments?

498 jaunte  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:57:33am

re: #491 Gus 802

Victimization:

EqualJustice
Posted on January 7, 2012 at 8:55am

It’s ALL ABOUT RACE wtih these two! Waiting for a “black woman” to make a mistake? WOW, Santorum said “BLACK” and they jumped all over him… HYPOCRITE PARTY…

Santorum clearly explained he said 'blah' people.

499 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:57:36am

re: #461 Obdicut

That's not an answer, Steve. How would legalizing medical pot drive the price up and availability down, please?

Perhaps in the very short term until corporations get their farms growing and the pipeline is filled? There would be a rush on existing sources from, I think, I lot of people buying for the novelty of it or because they really to smoke, but actually believe in following the rule-of-law.

Perhaps short-term price increase because of those reasons.

In the long run, it would be very lucrative and cheap --even with the eventual stacking of taxes on every pack.

JMHO

500 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:58:12am

re: #492 sattv4u2

remember that drive to work coffee I told you about earlier?

remember that drive to work coffee re-fill I told you about earlier?

remember that potta that I was gonna make once I got here?

All Gone!

Well, get more man, you'll rust.

501 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:58:35am

At Gateway Pundit:

#8 January 7, 2012 at 10:46 am
Remco Kimber commented:

The First Negress.

They're just completely out in the open now.

502 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:58:54am

re: #501 Charles

At Gateway Pundit:

They're just completely out in the open now.

Wow.

503 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:59:00am

re: #498 jaunte

Victimization:

Santorum clearly explained he said 'blah' people.

Which makes him seem incoherent, and perhaps drunk, rather than racist. Well done!

504 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:59:31am

re: #501 Charles

At Gateway Pundit:

They're just completely out in the open now.

*ggt shakes head*

There are no words.

505 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:08:04am

I sense a new thread in the making!

506 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:10:25am

re: #493 SanFranciscoZionist

LUCKY!

when you have an opportunity, visit. it's ... endearing.

507 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:14:03am

Woohoo!

[Link: twitter.com...]

508 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:16:47am

re: #507 Gus 802

That's kinda on the bottom of this stoner's list. It would be nice, but there are more important things that should get priority.

509 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:19:12am

Abortion and gay rights, for example. I can live with black market bud until that shit gets ironed out.

510 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:25:25am

Why does this guy keep asking me this dumb question?

[Link: twitter.com...]

511 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:26:19am

re: #510 Gus 802

Why does this dumb guy keep asking me this dumb question?

[Link: twitter.com...]

512 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:26:45am

re: #510 Gus 802

It's probably that younglibertarian freak.

513 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:27:15am

re: #511 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm trying to think of my own answer. My first thought was probably because most libertarians are just Republican anarchists.

514 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:27:19am

re: #510 Gus 802

Why does this guy keep asking me this dumb question?

[Link: twitter.com...]

best antidote

Give him a dumb answer

"he doesn't like them ever since they changed the dipping sauce!!!"

515 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:27:52am

re: #514 sattv4u2

best antidote

Give him a dumb answer

"he doesn't like them ever since they changed the dipping sauce!!!"

"He doesn't hate libertarians. He just hates you."

//

516 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:28:21am

re: #513 Gus 802

How about "You idiots cover for racists and conspiracy theorists".

517 allegro  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:28:34am

re: #509 Slumbering Behemoth

Abortion and gay rights, for example. I can live with black market bud until that shit gets ironed out.

Those of us who enjoy a bit of herbal indulgence know where to get it. The problem for many who would benefit from its many medicinal attributes, such as those going through chemotherapy treatments, likely find it hard to find without knowing someone who uses it for R&R. It had a nearly miraculous effect on my dear dad when he was so ill but he never would have had the benefit of the herb if I hadn't been growing it and insisting that he try it.

518 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:28:38am

re: #510 Gus 802

Why does this guy keep asking me this dumb question?

[Link: twitter.com...]

Because he can't pester anybody here. He's now a Stalker for Gary Johnson. They're like Paulbots.

519 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:28:47am

re: #516 Slumbering Behemoth

How about "You idiots cover for racists and conspiracy theorists".

Yeah, it's a long, long list.

520 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:29:27am

re: #515 Gus 802

"He doesn't hate libertarians. He just hates you."

//

"libertarians?? And here all this time I thought he hated LIBRARIANS!!!"

521 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:29:41am

re: #519 Gus 802

Yeah, it's a long, long list.

If you need to feed him, try, "Why not?"

522 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:31:48am

re: #517 allegro

I dig where you're coming from, but that's not a large number of people compared to those getting screwed over just because they love someone of the same sex.

523 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:31:58am

re: #510 Gus 802

Why does this guy keep asking me this dumb question?

[Link: twitter.com...]

Answer;
Ron Paul.

524 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:32:19am

re: #523 Varek Raith

Answer;
Ron Paul.

Good answer!

525 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:33:23am

re: #524 Gus 802

Good answer!

Just like on "Family Feud"!

//

526 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:34:30am

re: #522 Slumbering Behemoth

The number of people getting chemo, who have glaucoma, cluster headaches, etc. is pretty high. It's a shitty deal to keep a drug as good as marijuana out.

But we got twisted up in it long ago, and now it's big money for everyone.

527 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:35:20am

re: #525 Gus 802

Just like on "Family Feud"!

//

Youtube Video
528 allegro  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:36:04am

re: #522 Slumbering Behemoth

I dig where you're coming from, but that's not a large number of people compared to those getting screwed over just because they love someone of the same sex.

Just because there are others with problems, regardless of their numbers or the severity of their issues, doesn't mean that other issues cannot or should not be addressed. It's like telling women in the US to STFU with regards to discrimination and pay inequality because women in the Mid East have it so much worse. Or saying forget the starving kids in the US because there are so many more starving in Bangladesh.

529 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:36:38am

D'oh!

@Gus_802 Gus
@jbevan70 @Lizardoid Something about free-market Republican anarchy. Ron Paul, aliens, UFOs, and conspiracy theories galore.

530 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:36:50am

re: #528 allegro

That's not what I'm saying.

531 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:37:05am

Now he probably won't shut up.

//

532 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:37:38am

re: #529 Gus 802

Don't forget creationism.

533 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:37:52am

Libertarianism is basically a Homeopathic-Republican Party.

534 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:37:55am

STATES RIGHTS!!!

535 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:38:25am

Somalia, Libertarian Paradise.

536 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:38:52am

re: #535 Varek Raith

Somalia, Libertarian Paradise.

I remember that. Whew.

537 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:40:33am

re: #535 Varek Raith

Somalia, Libertarian Paradise.

It. Is. Awesome. No federal gov't to tell you how you can earn money, or what you can eat.

never mind that there are no jobs and no food

538 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:40:51am

John Stossel and Reason magazine!

Derp.

539 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:41:07am

Reason TV: Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot. Pot.

540 jaunte  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:41:45am

Obama admin updates definition of rape

Today the Obama administration announced that it is updating the formal definition of rape. This move will help many rape victims who were previously unaccounted for achieve justice against their perpetrators and will more accurately reflect the extent of the problem of sexual crimes in our country.

Marijuana fans still threatening to 'sit on their hands' in 2012 election.

541 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:42:15am

re: #540 jaunte

Obama admin updates definition of rape

Marijuana fans cult still threatening to 'sit on their hands' in 2012 election.

FTFY

542 Lidane  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:42:22am

re: #535 Varek Raith

Somalia, Libertarian Paradise.

Oy. I remember some anarcho-libertarian nutjob on a message board I used to go to actually try to argue that Somalia was this capitalist paradise because they didn't have a government. No one could convince him otherwise.

543 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:43:08am

re: #542 Lidane

Dogma fog is hard to cut through.

544 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:44:12am

Fogma!

545 Gus  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:46:01am

re: #544 Slumbering Behemoth

Fogma!

The "Fog of Dogma". Wasn't McNamara in that?

//

546 Lidane  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:46:16am

re: #543 Slumbering Behemoth

Dogma fog is hard to cut through.

Especially Mises Institute dogma. OMG, that guy would quote it, chapter and verse. He'd go on and on and on about praxeology and the Austrian School like they were the answer to everything. And yes, he was a dyed-in-the-wool Paulbot.

547 jaunte  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:46:46am

Onward, thru the Fog

548 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:47:42am

Any football fans here? I'm watching pre-game coverage and Andy Dalton is a ginger. Has a ginger ever won the Super Bowl?

No offense to you gingers out there.

He looks like Ron Weasley.

549 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:48:31am

re: #547 jaunte

Onward, through the Fog

friend of mine

[Link: thefog.com...]

550 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:49:15am

re: #548 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Any football fans here? I'm watching pre-game coverage and Andy Dalton is a ginger. Has a ginger ever won the Super Bowl?

No offense to you gingers out there.

Huh???

Image: tinalouise-wheel.jpg

551 Lidane  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:49:36am

P.J. O'Rourke on the GOP primaries:

Youtube Video
552 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:49:50am

re: #548 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Are you prejudiced?
/

553 albusteve  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:49:52am

re: #548 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Any football fans here? I'm watching pre-game coverage and Andy Dalton is a ginger. Has a ginger ever won the Super Bowl?

No offense to you gingers out there.

He looks like Ron Weasley.

he's a stud...he was at stud at TCU...one hell of a player...look out for the Bengals

554 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:56:07am

re: #542 Lidane

Oy. I remember some anarcho-libertarian nutjob on a message board I used to go to actually try to argue that Somalia was this capitalist paradise because they didn't have a government. No one could convince him otherwise.

There is no dumbass like a dumbass who thinks he would enjoy living without the benefits of a functioning society.

They all imagine that they'd be warlords, despite not having shown any aptitude for such under the far more safe conditions at home.

555 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:56:57am

re: #554 SanFranciscoZionist

There is no dumbass like a dumbass who thinks he would enjoy living without the benefits of a functioning society.

They all imagine that they'd be warlords, despite not having shown any aptitude for such under the far more safe conditions at home.

My nic is all I need to be a warlord.
/

556 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 11:57:56am

re: #554 SanFranciscoZionist

They all imagine that they'd be warlords, despite not having shown any aptitude for such under the far more safe conditions at home.

test #1

Here's two sticks. Start me a fire!

557 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:00:34pm

re: #556 sattv4u2


They all imagine that they'd be warlords, despite not having shown any aptitude for such under the far more safe conditions at home.

test #1

Here's two sticks. Start me a fire!

I can do that.

:)

558 Lidane  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:01:15pm

re: #556 sattv4u2

test #1

Here's two sticks. Start me a fire!

Heh. That goes right back to Luap Nor in the Funny or Die video in the previous thread.

559 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:02:15pm

re: #557 Varek Raith

I can do that.

:)

Blasting the sticks with a phaser on full doesn't count

560 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 7, 2012 12:03:35pm

re: #559 sattv4u2

Blasting the sticks phaser on full doesn't count

I was on my way to becoming an Eagle Scout.
I can start fires.
And cook pizza on them.
:P


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