The GOP Eats Its Young

Republicans attack Romney for being a good Republican
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As Newt Gingrich and other GOP candidates viciously attack Mitt Romney for his work at Bain Capital, I’ve been waiting for the other shoe to drop — because as I wrote yesterday, rapacious no-holds-barred capitalism is a core right wing value, and these attacks are basically a repudiation of everything the Republican Party stands for.

And now, here’s that other shoe.

The assault on Mitt Romney’s record as a private equity investor—led by, of all people, Newt Gingrich—has one influential Washington special interest group screaming “enough!”

That would be the Club for Growth, the conservative anti-tax advocates, who Monday released a statement decrying Gingrich’s attack on Romney’s work at Bain Capital as, well, un-Republican.

“Newt Gingrich’s attacks on Mitt Romney’s record at Bain Capital are disgusting,” the group’s president, Chris Chocola, a former Indiana congressman, said. “There are a number of issues for Mitt Romney’s Republican opponents to attack him for, but attacking him for making investments in companies to create a profit for his investors is just wrong. Because of the efforts of Bain Capital, major companies like Staples, Domino’s Pizza, and the Sports Authority now employ thousands of people and have created billions in wealth in the private economy. Attacking Governor Romney for participating in free-market capitalism is just beyond the pale for any purported ‘Reagan Conservative.’ Newt Gingrich should stop his attacks on free markets and apologize to Governor Romney for them.”

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73 comments
1 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:09:17am

Free Market. As in free of regulations, laws and any sense of responsibility for its actions...

2 Kragar  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:10:12am

Its a novel concept, trying to alienate every voter base prior to an election. I wonder how it will turn out for them.

3 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:11:59am

It becomes clear that the approach of demolishing and destroying all enemies does not just apply to Democrats, it applies to everyone who disagrees.

4 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:12:07am

What, there really is a Count Chocula?

5 Lidane  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:13:25am

re: #2 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its a novel concept, trying to alienate every voter base prior to an election. I wonder how it will turn out for them.

They'll blame Mitt Romney for not being conservative enough.

6 aagcobb  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:18:24am

It is deliciously ironic to watch Newt Gingrich, the 90's leader of the GOP takeover of the House, first complain about unlimited, unregulated campaign money, then attack Romney for being a heartless, free market capitalist. Next thing you know, Newt is going to be banging a drum for OWS.

7 elizajane  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:20:29am

It's interesting that we have finally found an issue on which even conservative Republicans are genuinely divided. The National Review steps up with an editorial defending Mitt for just being a good capitalist, and blasting his rivals for calling him on his vulture tendencies. But in the comments section, normally a chorus of approval for whatever the NR says, there is dissent. Some approve. Others write lengthy, thoughful screeds about the limits of good capitalism and why Mitt overstepped them. At a less coherent level, the same thing seems to happen at Hot Air.

Partly this is just all the anti-Mittists finally being given a concrete cause to attack him on, ie., one that he cannot "change his position" on. But it's also a genuine conservative conflict and quite entertaining to observe.

8 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:21:06am

I'm really torn. What does Rushbo have to say? //

9 BishopX  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:22:54am

re: #6 aagcobb

I find it especially amusing that Newt is compaining about unlimited money at the same time that he's getting 5 million dollar checks. The hypocrisy astounds.

10 Talking Point Detective  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:27:19am
Because of the efforts of Bain Capital, major companies like Staples, Domino’s Pizza, and the Sports Authority now employ thousands of people and have created billions in wealth in the private economy.

That needs some serious mendin'

Because of the efforts of Bain Capital, major companies like Staples, Domino’s Pizza, and the Sports Authority now employ thousands of people at low paying minimum wage jobs that don't raise them above poverty levels and leave them without healthcare for their children and have created billions in wealth in the private economy that is disproportionately concentrated in the bank accounts of executives who make hundreds of times more than their hardworking colleagues lower down on the corporate ladder

11 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:29:08am

Boiled down the complaint is "STFU NEWT! The 99% might understand what you're saying is true!"

12 iossarian  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:29:09am

re: #4 Alouette

What, there really is a Count Chocula?

Drive-by: Chris Chocola is fairly well-established in the nutty right-wing "we have all the money and so by definition we are right" noise-crowd.

He does have a funny name, though, I agree.

13 AMER1CAN  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:31:11am

I'm sure this was posted earlier but it needs to be reposted again.

Outgoing Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour under fire after pardoning 4 killers

Outgoing Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour has pardoned at least four convicted killers who worked at the Governor's Mansion, including a man who was denied parole less than two weeks ago.
Relatives of three victims told The Associated Press on Monday that state corrections officials notified them over the weekend that the convicts were to be released this past Sunday. Barbour, a former chairman of the Republican National Committee who weighed a presidential run last year before deciding against it, leaves office on Tuesday.

Truly sad and an injustice to the victims and their families.

14 allegro  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:32:15am

re: #10 Talking Point Detective

That needs some serious mendin'

Another point I raise is that in addition to the excellent points you have made, keeping employees working at 39 hours to avoid paying bennies means that everyone's taxes must make up the difference ultimately to cover the healthcare for the children, food stamps, etc. since they are kept at poverty level. So our taxes are needed to supplement their employees as they enjoy their golden parachutes.

15 nines09  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:32:39am

Compassionate Robber Barons?

17 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:34:00am

re: #16 Lidane

Cue the 'splodey heads:

BREAKING: 10th Circuit Court Of Appeals Declares Oklahoma’s Sharia Ban Unconstitutional

Pam's head can 'splode over and over and over again.

How does she do that?

18 albusteve  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:35:36am

re: #16 Lidane

Cue the 'splodey heads:

BREAKING: 10th Circuit Court Of Appeals Declares Oklahoma’s Sharia Ban Unconstitutional

wonder what the legal fee is for this joke...probably enough to run a soup kitchen for a year or two...
what a waste

19 allegro  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:35:36am

re: #17 Alouette

Pam's head can 'splode over and over and over again.

How does she do that?

Gin as brain glue?

20 Talking Point Detective  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:37:37am

re: #14 allegro

Another point I raise is that in addition to the excellent points you have made, keeping employees working at 39 hours to avoid paying bennies means that everyone's taxes must make up the difference ultimately to cover the healthcare for the children, food stamps, etc. since they are kept at poverty level. So our taxes are needed to supplement their employees as they enjoy their golden parachutes.

Good point. And people who hate being "forced" to pay taxes for the healthcare of a child born into poverty (a joke, because they're free to opt out of the system by moving to Somalia) are more likely to support policies that allow an increased tax burden on the 99% so as to increase the income of the 1%.

22 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:39:26am

We destroyed millions of decent manufacturing jobs and replaced them with a few hundred thousand minimum wage jobs in the service sector. How dare you Mr. Gingrich

23 erik_t  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:39:58am

Couldn't happen to a nicer party.

24 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:41:03am

re: #22 SpaceJesus

We destroyed millions of decent manufacturing jobs and replaced them with a few hundred thousand minimum wage jobs in the service sector. How dare you Mr. Gingrich

But the execs get bigger bonuses than ever before!

25 Alexzander  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:41:58am

Capitalism will eat itself.

26 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:42:57am

re: #17 Alouette

Pam's head can 'splode over and over and over again.

How does she do that?

She's an alien and enjoys the stinging sensation as it grows back, of course.
/

27 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:45:21am

re: #24 Alouette

But the execs get bigger bonuses than ever before!

And all that wealth will trickle down to America"s middle class.


And by America I mean South East Asia. And by trickle I mean ocassionally drip.

28 zora  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:45:24am
Rick Perry is back on Mitt Romney — in a big way.

At a town hall here, he reprised his attack on Romney's Bain Capital, but took it a step further.

"I will suggest they're just vultures," he said of firms that "loot" other companies. "They're vultures that are sitting out there on the tree limb, waiting for a company to get sick. And then they swoop in, they eat the carcass, they leave with that and they leave the skeleton.

[Link: www.politico.com...]

29 Kragar  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:46:41am

Santorum: Attacking Iran’s Nuclear Facilities Won’t ‘Start A War’

While one might reasonably argue back that attacking Iran would actually be the start of said war, Santorum doesn’t see it that way. Last night on CNN, he told John King that launching air strikes would not mean staring a war with Iran:

SANTORUM: Some have suggested by taking strikes, again, if that is absolutely necessary, to stop them from getting a nuclear weapon will start a war. I disagree. It will stop a horrible war that will happen when Iran will be funding terrorist organizations and other groups that will be waging jihad around the world, and particularly here in the homeland of this country.

So this is not a — this is not something that I take lightly. I take it very seriously. We’re going to give Iran every opportunity to step away from the brink of being a nuclear power, but if they do not, then we cannot let that happen.

30 erik_t  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:47:17am

re: #28 zora

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Sort of fun watching major GOP players air major left-wing grievances that Democratic lawmakers could not discuss without being verbally crucified.

31 sagehen  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:48:20am

But he didn't "make" money in the private economy, he EXTRACTED it.

They'd buy up a company, pay themselves tens of millions in "consulting" fees, sell the best physical assets (and pay themselves bonuses for that clever move), load up the company with debt (and pay themselves more bonuses), then say "whoops, it's bankrupt" and the employees would lose not only their jobs, but pension funds they'd been contributing to for years, and banks would be stuck with a loss, but Bain would walk away laughing and lighting their cigars with $100 bills.

32 Lidane  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:49:07am

re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Santorum: Attacking Iran’s Nuclear Facilities Won’t ‘Start A War’

Because we all know that the mullahs would respond to an air strike by greeting us as liberators, or something.

33 erik_t  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:53:30am

re: #32 Lidane

Because we all know that the mullahs would respond to an air strike by greeting us as liberators, or something.

Someone needs to rework the Fry meme.

Not sure if stupid or just GOP presidential candidate.

34 Lidane  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:53:43am

re: #30 erik_t

Sort of fun watching major GOP players air major left-wing grievances that Democratic lawmakers could not discuss without being verbally crucified.

That's the funniest part of all of this. It's popcorn worthy, really.

35 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:55:59am

re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Santorum: Attacking Iran’s Nuclear Facilities Won’t ‘Start A War’

Apparently patriotism and nationalistic fervor is part of what defines American Exceptionalism and no other country is capable of evoking such feelings.

This is delusional.

36 Lidane  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 10:57:36am

re: #33 erik_t

Someone needs to rework the Fry meme.

Not sure if stupid or just GOP presidential candidate.

Personally, whenever Santorum opens his pie hole, I think this applies:

Image: woodywtf.jpg

37 nines09  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:00:19am

re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Santorum: Attacking Iran’s Nuclear Facilities Won’t ‘Start A War’

No. Not at all, Rick. Especially if he would use words like "In the name of Jesus" or "Gods' work" or something like that from his fevered lips at that time of reporting the action. He who would be King. He's a freaking genius.

38 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:00:46am

re: #17 Alouette

Pam's head can 'splode over and over and over again.

How does she do that?

No brain. Just seething rage pickled in gin.

39 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:01:21am

I thought nothing could be more fricken annoying than those "56 Year Old Mom Looks 23 -- Doctors Hate Her!" ads, but now I'm seeing these ads of a woman with a drudge siren on her head.

Those are really fricken annoying!

(Yes I am stuck using IE and can't use AdBlock)

40 BongCrodny  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:01:43am

Do these guys ever factor in the layoffs at the mom and pops they put out of business?

It's guess it's nice that Staples created, to swipe Talking Point Detective's description, "thousands of low paying jobs," but I wonder how many local office supply companies went belly up when Staples came to town.

41 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:03:30am

re: #40 BongCrodny

Do these guys ever factor in the layoffs at the mom and pops they put out of business?

It's guess it's nice that Staples created, to swipe Talking Point Detective's description, "thousands of low paying jobs," but I wonder how many local office supply companies went belly up when Staples came to town.

I kind of vaguely remember those "mom & pop" stationers as being places that never had the stuff you wanted, and always hovering around you like you're going to steal a rubber band.

Don't miss 'em.

42 BongCrodny  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:08:07am

re: #13 AMER1CAN

I'm sure this was posted earlier but it needs to be reposted again.

Outgoing Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour under fire after pardoning 4 killers

Outgoing Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour has pardoned at least four convicted killers who worked at the Governor's Mansion,

You'd think there might be some vetting process after the second or third killer was discovered working there.

43 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:12:25am

re: #7 elizajane

On 'good' capitalism. There is no such a thing. There is no such a thing as 'evil' capitalism either.

Capitalism, or more properly commerce for capitalism is just a sub-section of commerce, is a tool. Nothing more. It is ethically neutral. It can only do what its users direct it to do.

Therein lies the problem. We've been taught that the primary purpose of commerce is to make money. That making money is good. Which it is. Kinda.

But the primary purpose of commerce is to create and distribute goods and services necessary for people to live.

So when making money becomes the prime purpose the real purpose is forgotten, and thus not carried out. The goods and services needed for people to live are forgotten about. Which results in the mess we have now.

In my opinion, chasing profit above all else is not a good thing. But that's not the fault of the system called capitalism. That's the fault of the people who use it.

44 zora  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:19:43am

[Link: www.kingofbain.com...]

King of Bain
Capitalism made America great - free markets, innovation, hard work - the building blocks of the American Dream. But in the wrong hands some of those dreams can turn into nightmares. This film is about one raider and his firm and how they destroyed that dream for thousands of Americans and their families - Mitt Romney and Bain Capital.

it appears that gingrich's superpac bought this film. the trailer is at the link. the film and trailer include testimonials from laid-off workers.

45 Kragar  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:22:38am
46 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:25:32am

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

U.S. Ships Rescue Iranian Mariners Twice In One Week

Definitely part of a US plot to embarrass Iran by being nice to them and putting them in a position where they really ought to say "thank you", no matter how begrudgingly...

47 ProMayaLiberal  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:42:17am

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I just noticed this story.

Allen West: Military Leaders ‘Should Be Very Careful About Blindly Following A Commander-In-Chief’

A) I can't believe a war criminal like this made it into Congress

B) We need some sort of sedition law. This fucker was coming real close to calling for a coup.

48 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:47:31am

re: #46 ralphieboy
Civilized rule of the High Seas!!
We fished out Japanese fighter pilots hundreds of times during WWII.
If they are embarrassed....oh well!

49 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:47:40am

re: #47 ProLifeLiberal

I just noticed this story.

Allen West: Military Leaders ‘Should Be Very Careful About Blindly Following A Commander-In-Chief’

A) I can't believe a war criminal like this made it into Congress

B) We need some sort of sedition law. This fucker was coming real close to calling for a coup.

A) I agree

B) No. Every time we have had such laws in this country, they are instantly abused to put political minorities in prison. The Alien and Sedition Act, the Sedition Act of 1918, the 1940 Alien Registration Act were all abused in such a manner. Prosecutors being prosecutors, any such new law would as well.

Probably make KT orgasm when they abused it against OWS types though...

50 SidewaysQuark  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:48:35am

I wouldn't understimate ol' Mitt. When all the other buffoons were fighting over who was the flavor of the month, Mitt was silently realizing that January is the only month that counted. He stands to be a formidable opponent against Obama, I think. (I personally doubt he'll win, but Obama won't walk away with this one, I don't think.)

51 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:50:58am

re: #46 ralphieboy

Definitely part of a US plot to embarrass Iran by being nice to them and putting them in a position where they really ought to say "thank you", no matter how begrudgingly...

It's just another 'Hollywood drama’!

52 SidewaysQuark  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:51:36am

re: #49 wlewisiii

A) I agree

B) No. Every time we have had such laws in this country, they are instantly abused to put political minorities in prison. The Alien and Sedition Act, the Sedition Act of 1918, the 1940 Alien Registration Act were all abused in such a manner. Prosecutors being prosecutors, any such new law would as well.

Probably make KT orgasm when they abused it against OWS types though...

Well, on some level that quote makes sense, such as in the hypothetical case of a Commander-in-Chief demanding an obvious atrocity. History might have been a bit gentler had certain German military brass refused their commander-in-chief.

53 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:53:42am

re: #51 NJDhockeyfan

It's just another 'Hollywood drama’!

I hope Cuba Gooding and Cameron Diaz get the lead roles...

54 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:55:37am

re: #52 SidewaysQuark

Well, on some level that quote makes sense, such as in the hypothetical case of a Commander-in-Chief demanding an obvious atrocity. History might have been a bit gentler had certain German military brass refused their commander-in-chief.

There were some that did, while others actively plotted Hitler's assassination in order to install a far more competent government that would sue for peace so as to preserve Germany's honor. They all ended their careers before a firing squad.

But that Godwin moment aside, West's statement amounts to a call for mutiny, for soldiers to willfully refuse to obey the lawful orders of their Commander-in-Chief because they disagree with them, or more precisely disagree with his being CinC. The only mark in West's favor is that he's no longer in the service, else he'd be facing charges of attempting to incite mutiny and possibly treason.

55 aagcobb  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 11:56:10am

re: #8 Bulworth

I'm really torn. What does Rushbo have to say? //

Rush is not happy, which makes me smile. I listened to a bit of his show this afternoon, and he said that Newt is parroting the New York Times and singing from the same hymnal as OWS. He said that Newt has become like Perot, and is now only running to stop Romney, just as Perot ran to get Bush Sr.

56 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 12:00:00pm

re: #41 Alouette

I kind of vaguely remember those "mom & pop" stationers as being places that never had the stuff you wanted, and always hovering around you like you're going to steal a rubber band.

Don't miss 'em.

Patrick & Co. is a small local chain, not exactly mom and pop--six stores--but they're good.

57 Political Atheist  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 12:00:32pm

re: #47 ProLifeLiberal

I just noticed this story.

Allen West: Military Leaders ‘Should Be Very Careful About Blindly Following A Commander-In-Chief’

A) I can't believe a war criminal like this made it into Congress

B) We need some sort of sedition law. This fucker was coming real close to calling for a coup.

I won't argue about his Article 15 conviction. But I'll disagree about sedition laws. That flea on that dogs back is not worth the rightly outraged protests sedition laws would unleash. Heck the Patriot Act is already used for non terror crimes 85% of the time.

58 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 12:04:42pm

re: #52 SidewaysQuark

Well, on some level that quote makes sense, such as in the hypothetical case of a Commander-in-Chief demanding an obvious atrocity. History might have been a bit gentler had certain German military brass refused their commander-in-chief.

The problem is when you up the 'circumstances under which the military refuses to follow orders' from "Holy shit, it's genocide and a losing world war", to "Holy shit, this guy is from the other political party, and we might not be able to vote him out for another four whole years".

59 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 12:05:54pm

re: #13 AMER1CAN

I'm sure this was posted earlier but it needs to be reposted again.

Outgoing Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour under fire after pardoning 4 killers

Truly sad and an injustice to the victims and their families.

It's not that new or unusual for southern states, though. That's how Leadbelly got out of (I think) Louisiana stir.

60 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 12:07:23pm

re: #58 SanFranciscoZionist

The problem is when you up the 'circumstances under which the military refuses to follow orders' from "Holy shit, it's genocide and a losing world war", to "Holy shit, this guy is from the other political party, and we might not be able to vote him out for another four whole years".

Military officers, and even most privates, know they are prohibited from obeying clearly illegal orders.

61 chunkymonkey  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 12:08:20pm

Charles, define "rapacious no-holds-barred capitalism" please. On the other hand, rapacious no-holds barred regulation and spending is a core left wing value. Do you have any problems with that?

62 aagcobb  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 12:09:45pm

re: #47 ProLifeLiberal

I just noticed this story.

Allen West: Military Leaders ‘Should Be Very Careful About Blindly Following A Commander-In-Chief’

A) I can't believe a war criminal like this made it into Congress

B) We need some sort of sedition law. This fucker was coming real close to calling for a coup.

Fortunately we have very professional and capable people in command positions in the armed forces, who realize that the difference between the US and a banana republic is that the military answers to the civilian government and not the other way around. Thank God we had a George Washington in charge of our revolution who refused to use the army to glorify himself. Birthers, homophobes and other assorted wingnuts have been screaming for a coup the last four years, and as far as I can tell, the generals have completely ignored them.

63 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 12:11:08pm

re: #61 chunkymonkey

Charles, define "rapacious no-holds-barred capitalism" please. On the other hand, rapacious no-holds barred regulation and spending is a core left wing value. Do you have any problems with that?

Unless you are talking about military spending, which liberals only begrudgingly support when it brings jobs to their districts, right?

/

64 Obdicut  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 12:12:16pm

re: #61 chunkymonkey

Heh. That's awesomely badly written. Good one.

65 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 12:14:10pm

re: #61 chunkymonkey

Charles, define "rapacious no-holds-barred capitalism" please. On the other hand, rapacious no-holds barred regulation and spending is a core left wing value. Do you have any problems with that?

Go drink some fucking mercury water.

66 allegro  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 12:18:41pm

re: #61 chunkymonkey

On the other hand, rapacious no-holds barred regulation and spending is a core left wing value.

Love to see you try to prove that assertion. Of course, you can't, but trying might be an excellent exercise for your limited mental ability.

67 albusteve  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 12:21:04pm

re: #59 Decatur Deb

It's not that new or unusual for southern states, though. That's how Leadbelly got out of (I think) Louisiana stir.

Leadbelly's murder case was almost certainly self defense according to most scholars and the warden loved him

68 theheat  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 12:26:11pm

If the GOP is indeed eating its own, it can't eat itself into extinction fast enough for me. This is a malignant, malicious political movement hell bent on dragging us back to the dark ages and taking the middle class down to a black and sooty Dickens-level of poverty, with minorities and certain ethnic groups faring even worse.

Go ahead, eat each other. Just hurry it the hell up, please.

69 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 2:14:23pm

re: #47 ProLifeLiberal

I just noticed this story.

Allen West: Military Leaders ‘Should Be Very Careful About Blindly Following A Commander-In-Chief’

A) I can't believe a war criminal like this made it into Congress

B) We need some sort of sedition law. This fucker was coming real close to calling for a coup.

Sorry, but down-dinged for the mention of a sedition law. It's been tried before and it didn't work.

Do you want to give people like the GOP the power to shut people up? Because any law that would persecute Alan West for this will also persecute people like, say, Charles. Because sedition is like pornography. What it is depends on the political views of those in power.

70 chunkymonkey  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 2:27:54pm

Note for Charles: Gingrich is a dipshit and should have gone away a long time ago. It's going to come down to Romney/Paul, and Romney is almost certain to win. I personally am pulling for Mary Tyler Moore, even though she's not a real person.

Translation just for our special buddy Obdicut: Gingrich is a bad person and should not be running for president, especially given that he has no chance of winning. In the end I think the top two candidates will be Romney and Paul, not that they represent my preference.

71 Olsonist  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 3:08:01pm

re: #61 chunkymonkey

Charles, define "rapacious no-holds-barred capitalism" please. On the other hand, rapacious no-holds barred regulation and spending is a core left wing value. Do you have any problems with that?

See Ayn Rand. In fact, have sex with Ayn Rand.

72 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 10, 2012 9:18:39pm

re: #70 chunkymonkey

Note for Charles: Gingrich is a dipshit and should have gone away a long time ago. It's going to come down to Romney/Paul, and Romney is almost certain to win. I personally am pulling for Mary Tyler Moore, even though she's not a real person.

You were OK until you got to MTM, who at last report was a living, breathing person.

73 po8crg  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 2:59:02am

re: #43 Romantic Heretic

In my opinion, chasing profit above all else is not a good thing. But that's not the fault of the system called capitalism. That's the fault of the people who use it.

Agreed. There's nothing wrong with running a business that does just better than breaking even, but provides excellent service to its customers and delivers well-paid, secure employment with benefits to its workers.

Of course, they could deliver a better return on investment in purely financial terms - and that's what the corporate raiders object to; these businesses could exploit their workers and abuse their customers and make more profit.

I know where I'd rather work, and who I'd rather do business with - but those are long-term considerations, and the Romneys of this world can get a nice big bonus on a couple of quarters of good results.


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The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ...
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
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