Stephen Colbert: Malice in Blunderland

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So many fake outrages, so little time. I just realized I hadn’t yet covered the phony story that came out this week about the Obamas’ Halloween party for children of military families.

The main reason why I didn’t write about this one is that I honestly can’t even figure out why they’re outraged. Usually it’s related to a current GOP talking point of some kind, but this one seems to consist of nothing more than pure animus toward the President and his wife.

Right wing fake outrages are getting so weird, they’re not even close to making sense any more.

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1 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:05:38pm

Inviting the Press Corps and posting videos of the party on the line back when it happened was all a part of the cover up.

2 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:08:14pm

I'm still pissed the Obamas didn't host an orgy for Saturnalia.

3 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:11:46pm

re: #2 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm still pissed the Obamas didn't host an orgy for Saturnalia.

I'm down with that.

4 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:12:34pm

re: #2 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm still pissed the Obamas didn't host an orgy for Saturnalia.

Well, he might have. It got covered up.

5 Iwouldprefernotto  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:13:19pm

The right conveniently forgets that this was a party for military families. (Given by someone who “hates” the military).

6 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:13:27pm

re: #1 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Inviting the Press Corps and posting videos of the party on the line back when it happened was all a part of the cover up.

Which, of course, only came to light when a disgruntled ex-employee revealed it in their thrilled tell-all book, which the Right will no doubt buy by the truckload to push it to the top of the Best Seller List.

Basically, we're all supposed to be shocked and outraged that Obama threw this big Halloween party and not making a big deal about it besides letting the press grab a few photos and then asking them to leave so that the parents and kids could enjoy the festivities in peace. Yet, had a big deal been made, we'd instead be hearing now about how Obama exploited these military families for a big photo op, running up the White House tab to get big name celebrities to round it out.

7 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:14:22pm

re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, he might have. It got covered up.

It's just as well, I suppose. I don't think I'd really want to see Chewbacca violating the Mad Hatter.

8 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:14:37pm

re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, he might have. It got covered up.

Somebody always has to hide in the closet.

9 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:14:47pm

Loved Colbert's Star War's riff right down to the Holiday Special, which I know MORE THAN ENOUGH about from watching Nostalgia critic's send up fo it.

10 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:14:57pm

re: #5 Iwouldprefernotto

The right conveniently forgets omits that this was a party for military families. (Given by someone who “hates” the military).

FTFY

11 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:15:09pm

re: #7 Slumbering Behemoth

It's just as well, I suppose. I don't think I'd really want to see Chewbacca violating the Mad Hatter.

Rule 34: No exceptions

12 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:15:49pm

re: #7 Slumbering Behemoth

It's just as well, I suppose. I don't think I'd really want to see Chewbacca violating the Mad Hatter.

I would.

13 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:15:55pm

re: #9 jamesfirecat

Loved Colbert's Star War's riff right down to the Holiday Special, which I know MORE THAN ENOUGH about from watching Nostalgia critic's send up fo it.

I actually watched it when it aired. NOW GIT OFFA MY LAWN!!!

14 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:16:27pm

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Rule 34: No exceptions

Let no childhood memory go unsullied.

/

15 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:16:35pm

re: #12 b_sharp

You're fired.

16 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:17:24pm

Panetta admits Iran not developing nukes

17 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:17:55pm

Oh, and I got my XBox working now. So, yay for being cheap. We'll see how long it lasts.

18 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:18:02pm

re: #15 Slumbering Behemoth

You're fired.

Damn, just when it gets fun.

19 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:18:24pm

dear fox news and rush limbaugh,

we hear your desperate cry for help

we're ignoring it

yours sincerely,

20 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:19:16pm

And naturally, you can't do a search for Chewbacca and Mad Hatter without immediately running into shitty wingnut photoshops of the First Lady.

But they're not racists.

21 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:19:40pm

re: #19 engineer dog

dear fox news and rush limbaugh,

we hear your desperate cry for help

we're ignoring it

yours sincerely,

I'll sign that letter.

22 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:20:07pm

re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth

I actually watched it when it aired. NOW GIT OFFA MY LAWN!!!

What Paypal account do I send money to to help pay for your therapy bills?

23 nines09  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:20:35pm

Digging deep on the Obama dirt. Cripes. Their viewers have flower pots for heads and Fox has the seed, dirt and manure for them. Water with fear and loathing and you have votes for......

24 albusteve  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:20:36pm

re: #20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And naturally, you can't do a search for Chewbacca and Mad Hatter without immediately running into shitty wingnut photoshops of the First Lady.

But they're not racists.

I went as the Marquis de Sade...nobody took my picture

25 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:21:36pm

re: #5 Iwouldprefernotto

The right conveniently forgets that this was a party for military families. (Given by someone who “hates” the military).

They never remember that it's for military families. Actually, the majority of things the Obama's do are for military families (their cause) but the outrage overpowers the cause.

Remember the Bush years when military was king and we all were traitors.

It just makes it more clear that it's party hatred. Reinforced by the RW media.

26 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:22:06pm

re: #22 jamesfirecat

What Paypal account do I send money to to help pay for your therapy bills?

I was 7 at the time, so I thought it was cool. I've blocked most of it out, though.

27 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:23:48pm

re: #24 albusteve

I went as the Marquis de Sade...nobody took my picture

Did you take an iron maiden?

28 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:23:49pm

re: #17 Slumbering Behemoth

Xbox 360 workers reportedly threaten mass suicide

A dissident website is reporting that 300 employees at a plant in China that makes the Xbox 360 threatened earlier this month to commit mass suicide after being denied promised compensation.

The report in anti-government website China Jasmine Revolution (via Want China Times), claims that the protest took place Jan. 2 at a Foxconn plant in Wuhan, China. A tragedy was avoided after the town's mayor got involved and talked the workers out of their threat, the report said. (Another website, Record China, reports that the incident resulted in a plant shutdown.

In addition to Microsoft, Foxconn also builds iPhones, iPods, and MacBooks for Apple. Dell and Hewlett Packard have also sourced products from Foxconn.

29 albusteve  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:25:34pm

re: #27 b_sharp

Did you take an iron maiden?

no, but I took enough wood to build Burning Man

30 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:25:54pm

re: #28 Amory Blaine

Well, I guess I should feel bad for fixing mine instead of buying a new one?
/

31 jaunte  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:26:09pm

"If we didn't know about this, what else don't we know about!?!"

32 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:27:32pm

re: #31 jaunte

"If we didn't know about this, what else don't we know about!"

Pretty much. "What other secrets is Obama hiding?! Where's the transparency!? Fast and Furious!"

33 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:27:42pm

re: #26 Slumbering Behemoth

I was 7 at the time, so I thought it was cool. I've blocked most of it out, though.

Let me help.


Whip, whip, whip whip stir whip, whip, whip, stir whip....


//Step one is admitting how the special wronged you Behemoth.

34 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:28:19pm

re: #31 jaunte

"If we didn't know about this, what else don't we know about!"

How old the Earth really is.
How Global Warming works.
Basic scientific methodology.

35 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:28:46pm

re: #6 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Which, of course, only came to light when a disgruntled ex-employee revealed it in their thrilled tell-all book, which the Right will no doubt buy by the truckload to push it to the top of the Best Seller List.

Basically, we're all supposed to be shocked and outraged that Obama threw this big Halloween party and not making a big deal about it besides letting the press grab a few photos and then asking them to leave so that the parents and kids could enjoy the festivities in peace. Yet, had a big deal been made, we'd instead be hearing now about how Obama exploited these military families for a big photo op, running up the White House tab to get big name celebrities to round it out.

Ya know, imagine the joy of these folks (parents and kids alike) seeing Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter. Fucking awesome.

Now, let's make that bad.

36 jaunte  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:29:30pm

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Rule 34: No exceptions

No Doocys, please.

37 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:29:50pm

re: #35 Stanley Sea

Ya know, imagine the joy of these folks (parents and kids alike) seeing Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter. Fucking awesome.

Now, let's make that bad.

Anything Obama does is bad by default. It's a law...I think.

//

38 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:30:42pm

re: #29 albusteve

no, but I took enough wood to build Burning Man

Can't have too much wood.

39 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:30:49pm

re: #36 jaunte

Ugh. You're the reason I must drink to excess. Thanks a lot, Jaunte.

40 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:30:55pm

Scott Walker violates state campaign laws 1,511 times.

41 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:32:10pm

re: #39 Slumbering Behemoth

Ugh. You're the reason I must drink to excess. Thanks a lot, Jaunte.

Hee hee, like you need an excuse!

42 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:32:54pm

re: #36 jaunte

Rosie O'Donnell and Rosanne Barr. And mayonnaise.

There, we're even.

43 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:33:29pm

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

Rosie O'Donnell and Rosanne Barr. And mayonnaise.

There, we're even.

You sick bastard!
What's wrong with you?

44 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:33:32pm

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

Rosie O'Donnell and Rosanne Barr. And mayonnaise.

There, we're even.

arrrgggh!!

45 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:33:45pm

re: #41 Floral Giraffe

At this point, I'd need an excuse not too.

46 albusteve  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:33:55pm

why has there never been a Jaunte art page?....wtf?

47 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:34:48pm

re: #46 albusteve

why has there never been a Jaunte art page?...wtf?

Jaunte is a modest man. A sick, modest man.

48 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:35:02pm

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

Rosie O'Donnell and Rosanne Barr. And mayonnaise.

There, we're even.

Pamella Geller, Robert Spencer, and a bowl of ham glaze.

49 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:35:07pm

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

Rosie O'Donnell and Rosanne Barr. And mayonnaise.

There, we're even.

...

I don't care if trepanning no longer an accepted medical practice, I'm going to drill a hole in my head and pour bleach in until that image leaves my mind.

/

50 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:36:04pm

re: #31 jaunte

"If we didn't know about this, what else don't we know about!?!"

I hear Barack Obama has two black children!!!!!!!

51 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:36:25pm

re: #48 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Pamella Geller, Robert Spencer, and a bowl of ham glaze.

You deserve to be locked up in a cupboard.

52 albusteve  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:37:59pm

re: #50 moderatelyradicalliberal

I hear Barack Obama has two black children!!!

even worse, he has a white caddy

53 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:38:01pm

re: #50 moderatelyradicalliberal

I hear Barack Obama has two black children!!!

Who'd a guessed?

54 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:38:17pm

re: #51 b_sharp

You deserve to be locked up in a cupboard.

Or in a jar of mayonnaise!

55 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:38:30pm

On a serious note, the Obama Administration has been remarkably scandal free.

56 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:38:46pm

re: #54 Floral Giraffe

Or in a jar of mayonnaise!

Damn right.

57 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:39:38pm

re: #48 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Pamella Geller, Robert Spencer, and a bowl of ham glaze.

Genestealer, Space Marine and a ball gag.

58 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:40:39pm

re: #55 moderatelyradicalliberal

On a serious note, the Obama Administration has been remarkably scandal free.

They know the dance. People are watching you harder, you must conform and be perfect to get to the level.

59 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:40:47pm

re: #53 b_sharp

Who'd a guessed?

Well it certainly explains the tall black lady. He's sleeping with her!!!!! We can't have a president who consorts with an uppity negress!!!!!

60 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:40:57pm

Check out this crazy alarm clock.

61 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:41:05pm

re: #55 moderatelyradicalliberal

On a serious note, the Obama Administration has been remarkably scandal free.

So far. But I got assured last night by a few wingnuts that "Fast and Furious" will be this administration's Watergate. Apparently they finally remembered that an Attorney General's job is to enforce the law, not break it, even if they can't prove Holder has done so.

62 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:41:42pm

re: #58 Stanley Sea

They know the dance. People are watching you harder, you must conform and be perfect to get to the level.

That's true, but still difficult to pull off if you actually are corrupt. I think it helps to not be a crook.

63 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:41:57pm

re: #57 Varek Raith

Genestealer, Space Marine and a ball gag.

You think no one has thought of that before you? Please.

64 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:42:31pm

re: #58 Stanley Sea

They know the dance. People are watching you harder, you must conform and be perfect to get to the level.

And it still won't keep them from hating you.

65 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:42:34pm

re: #63 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You think no one has thought of that before you? Please.

My knowledge of WH40k is limited.
Sue me.
:P

66 albusteve  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:43:06pm

re: #61 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

So far. But I got assured last night by a few wingnuts that "Fast and Furious" will be this administration's Watergate. Apparently they finally remembered that an Attorney General's job is to enforce the law, not break it, even if they can't prove Holder has done so.

heh...just a misunderstanding...
Holder is another BO fratboy

67 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:44:32pm

re: #59 moderatelyradicalliberal

Well it certainly explains the tall black lady. He's sleeping with her!!! We can't have a president who consorts with an uppity negress!!!

Don't tell anybody but I'm in a 'mixed race'* marriage so I'm pulling for his white half.


*God, I hate the bullshit idea of races.

68 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:45:29pm

re: #62 moderatelyradicalliberal

That's true, but still difficult to pull off if you actually are corrupt. I think it helps to not be a crook.

Without saying. Really, everything brought up about Obama had been bogus so far. That's all they've got.

69 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:45:33pm

re: #65 Varek Raith

My knowledge of WH40k is limited.
Sue me.
:P

You'll be hearing from my people.

70 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:46:13pm

re: #64 moderatelyradicalliberal

And it still won't keep them from hating you.

how utterly fucked is that

71 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:46:48pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

how utterly fucked is that

New to these shores, are you?

/

72 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:47:06pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

how utterly fucked is that

It makes them hate you more.

73 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:48:10pm

re: #67 b_sharp

Don't tell anybody but I'm in a 'mixed race'* marriage so I'm pulling for his white half.

*God, I hate the bullshit idea of races.

Well you better hide you're not all the way white children if you have them. You'll never win public office if you don't!!!

74 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:48:36pm

re: #71 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

New to these shores, are you?

/

Nah, just in the oh how pitiful it all is mood tonight.

75 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:49:11pm

re: #73 moderatelyradicalliberal

Well you better hide you're not all the way white children if you have them. You'll never win public office if you don't!!!

They're both in the cellar as we speak.

76 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:49:18pm

re: #74 Stanley Sea

Nah, just in the oh how pitiful it all is mood tonight.

"My advice to you is to start drinking heavily."

77 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:50:56pm

re: #73 moderatelyradicalliberal

Well you better hide you're not all the way white children if you have them. You'll never win public office if you don't!!!

who was that southern republican senator married to an asian woman who found out just what a bunch of racist shits his constituents were when he ran for president?

78 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:52:03pm

re: #77 engineer dog

who was that southern republican senator married to an asian woman who found out just what a bunch of racist shits his constituents were when he ran for president?

I think Mitch McConnell. His wife is Asian.

79 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:52:44pm

re: #76 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

"My advice to you is to start drinking heavily."

Well, I'm attempting it. Received a wine gift that everyone else received. I'm the last to open it. Did so tonight. Some sort of Spanish white zin. (its red, but hmmmm) so lite that the girls said, no prob drinking the whole thing on a work nite. We will see. Not a bad taste, but fizzy.

80 albusteve  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:53:33pm

re: #77 engineer dog

who was that southern republican senator married to an asian woman who found out just what a bunch of racist shits his constituents were when he ran for president?

was there a crime involved?...sounds like John Grisham

81 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:53:46pm

re: #75 b_sharp

They're both in the cellar as we speak.

I never can get over the irony of people in SC note voting for MaCain because they heard he had a black child when they had already been voting for a man with a black child for 50 years!

82 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:54:06pm

re: #78 moderatelyradicalliberal

I think Mitch McConnell. His wife is Asian.

ORLY? He never steps up on the racist shit though? Just the job shit.

83 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:54:23pm

Just for the scraggly stalkers reading this thread - pulling for his white half was a reference to his making out big time with his intelligent, attractive wife.

84 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:56:03pm

re: #81 moderatelyradicalliberal

I never can get over the irony of people in SC note voting for MaCain because they heard he had a black child when they had already been voting for a man with a black child for 50 years!

A child of privileged rape. Makes me sick.

85 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:56:41pm

re: #82 Stanley Sea

ORLY? He never steps up on the racist shit though? Just the job shit.

I'm not aware of him saying anything racist, but I think he pretty consistently works on behalf of the 1% and has all of the usual socially conservative views. And he looks like a mean old turtle.

86 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:58:09pm

re: #81 moderatelyradicalliberal

I never can get over the irony of people in SC note voting for MaCain because they heard he had a black child when they had already been voting for a man with a black child for 50 years!

We are Great Apes. Idiocy is part of our makeup. Some can't get past their tribalism.

87 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:58:18pm

re: #84 Stanley Sea

A child of privileged rape. Makes me sick.

Fairly typical story for that time. The sexual exploitation during slavery and Jim Crow was horrific.

88 Big Joe Ghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:58:23pm

re: #85 moderatelyradicalliberal

I'm not aware of him saying anything racist, but I think he pretty consistently works on behalf of the 1% and has all of the usual socially conservative views. And he looks like a mean old turtle.

I take exception, my two mean old turtles are much better looking than him.

89 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:58:39pm

re: #80 albusteve

was there a crime involved?...sounds like John Grisham

now i remember, it was phil gramm. what happened was there was some racist talk about his family that put a damper on his run for the nomination in 1996

90 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 6:58:55pm

re: #81 moderatelyradicalliberal

I never can get over the irony of people in SC note voting for MaCain because they heard he had a black child when they had already been voting for a man with a black child for 50 years!

Dumb SC GOP bigots are dumb, and bigoted.

Joke's on them anyway, as to just how many of them are probably one-drop's themselves. /we don't want em!

91 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:00:21pm

re: #85 moderatelyradicalliberal

I'm not aware of him saying anything racist, but I think he pretty consistently works on behalf of the 1% and has all of the usual socially conservative views. And he looks like a mean old turtle.

Agree, he's not on the hate train, just on the obstruct anything good for the country if proposed by a democrat train.

Bad enough for me.

92 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:00:57pm

re: #89 engineer dog

now i remember, it was phil gramm. what happened was there was some racist talk about his family that put a damper on his run for the nomination in 1996

Oh, that's right. He was probably surprised. I mean it's not like she was black or something.

I'm willing to bet money that the only reason Jeb Bush stayed out of the race was because his wife is Latino.

93 Big Joe Ghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:01:49pm

my turtles...

Image: cimg0749mn8.jpg

94 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:02:19pm

re: #67 b_sharp

Don't tell anybody but I'm in a 'mixed race'* marriage so I'm pulling for his white half.

*God, I hate the bullshit idea of races.

I don't. I just hate the idea that certain ones are supposed to trump all others.

(And all the legal, economic, and social violence/eliminationism that comes of it.)

95 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:03:36pm

re: #93 mracb

my turtles...

Image: cimg0749mn8.jpg

They're cute. I had a box turtle when I was a little girl. I had to feed it live earth worms.

96 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:03:52pm

re: #93 mracb

my turtles...

Image: cimg0749mn8.jpg

Nice turtles.

97 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:04:00pm

re: #92 moderatelyradicalliberal

Oh, that's right. He was probably surprised. I mean it's not like she was black or something.

I'm willing to bet money that the only reason Jeb Bush stayed out of the race was because his wife is Latino.

That, and the last name.

I wonder if the GOP/RNC might call on him for VP, though. I would not put it past them to plop her in the Nonwhite Token of the Hour slot if they ever did.

98 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:04:10pm

re: #92 moderatelyradicalliberal

Oh, that's right. He was probably surprised. I mean it's not like she was black or something.

I'm willing to bet money that the only reason Jeb Bush stayed out of the race was because his wife is Latino.

Thats a toughie now a days. Back when he was supposed to go before George, it wasn't. What happened that made George jump the first choice Jeb? I forget.

99 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:04:40pm

re: #93 mracb

my turtles...

Image: cimg0749mn8.jpg

Neat, but they don't look mutant or ninja enough. And a little old to be teenagers.

/

100 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:04:53pm

Newt jumps on O'Keefe's derp bus

“How can the Obama Justice Department call itself a Department of Justice when it will allow a system to continue that enables election fraud?” Gingrich said. “Voter ID is a measure we must have in all 50 states to make sure our elections don’t lose their integrity.”

The video, made by undercover film auteur James O’Keefe, was made available on Wednesday morning exclusively to TheDC.

Gingrich said reports of the dead coming to life to vote show the importance of voter ID requirements at polling places.

“If you can’t prove who you are, an imposter can vote for you, a non-citizen can vote for you and someone can watch the obituary pages and go vote for all our deceased citizens,” Gingrich told TheDC.

Yes Newt, a shadowy cabal is going to monitor every obituary in the US so they can coordinate the tens of thousands of people needed to swing enough dead votes to turn a national election, all without anyone breaking the silence and exposing it.

102 aagcobb  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:05:43pm

re: #98 Stanley Sea

Thats a toughie now a days. Back when he was supposed to go before George, it wasn't. What happened that made George jump the first choice Jeb? I forget.

In the movie Bush Sr. was pissed that Dubya went out of turn. Have no idea if that scene was pure fiction or not.

103 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:06:05pm

re: #100 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Newt jumps on O'Keefe's derp bus

Yes Newt, a shadowy cabal is going to monitor every obituary in the US so they can coordinate the tens of thousands of people needed to swing enough dead votes to turn a national election, all without anyone breaking the silence and exposing it.

Watch the wingnuts then howl if O'Derp gets prosecuted.

104 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:06:46pm

re: #98 Stanley Sea

Thats a toughie now a days. Back when he was supposed to go before George, it wasn't. What happened that made George jump the first choice Jeb? I forget.

George won his election for governor before Jeb did. I was in Florida going to college at the time. Jeb wasn't able to knock off the incumbent Democrat, so he fell behind George in that sense.

105 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:07:09pm

re: #101 Killgore Trout

Man accused of leaving toddler alone in Occupy tent

downding with the biggest laugh. Really, it was LOUD.

106 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:07:23pm

re: #100 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Newt jumps on O'Keefe's derp bus

Yes Newt, a shadowy cabal is going to monitor every obituary in the US so they can coordinate the tens of thousands of people needed to swing enough dead votes to turn a national election, all without anyone breaking the silence and exposing it.

What, is Newt hoping that O'Keefe's latest brainfart will somehow gain him sympathy votes?

107 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:07:26pm

re: #94 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I don't. I just hate the idea that certain ones are supposed to trump all others.

(And all the legal, economic, and social violence/eliminationism that comes of it.)

The idea of separate human races is a fiction created to justify the legal, economic, and social violence/eliminationism.

The variance in the human genome is smaller than pretty much any other mammal species.

108 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:07:36pm

re: #103 Varek Raith

Watch the wingnuts then howl if O'Derp gets prosecuted.

"Officer, I only bought this heroin to expose how easy it was to buy heroin!"

109 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:08:18pm

re: #102 aagcobb

In the movie Bush Sr. was pissed that Dubya went out of turn. Have no idea if that scene was pure fiction or not.

There was a reason. Jeb was the one. Cannot remember. Something in Florida prob.

110 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:08:43pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea

downding with the biggest laugh. Really, it was LOUD.

Yeah, child abuse is hilarious.

111 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:09:59pm

re: #92 moderatelyradicalliberal

Oh, that's right. He was probably surprised. I mean it's not like she was black or something.

Have you seen Sayonara? Kind of interesting "tell" movie about white prohibitions against white/Asian relationships.

Got a bunch of awards and nominations, so obviously that anxiety was quite high. It should have been, since such marriages were illegal in many states at the time, including oh-so-liberal California up until 1948.

112 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:10:29pm

re: #101 Killgore Trout

Man accused of leaving toddler alone in Occupy tent

After he raped/stabbed it. /

113 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:10:46pm

re: #110 Killgore Trout

Yeah, child abuse is hilarious.

Your incessant trolling is more.

114 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:11:28pm

re: #112 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

After he raped/stabbed it. /

They are all rapey stabby.

115 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:11:29pm

re: #102 aagcobb

In the movie Bush Sr. was pissed that Dubya went out of turn. Have no idea if that scene was pure fiction or not.

I think more likely that Sr. new that Jeb was smarter than Jr. Sr. knew that Jr. would be a fuck up and that if he went first, there wouldn't be a second. The Bush name is now mud. Jeb could have gotten away with a Latino wife and maybe do better with Hispanics them George. But now, he can't run with the name Bush or a Latino wife. The former is toxic with the general public and the latter is toxic with the GOP base.

116 aagcobb  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:12:06pm

re: #85 moderatelyradicalliberal

I'm not aware of him saying anything racist, but I think he pretty consistently works on behalf of the 1% and has all of the usual socially conservative views. And he looks like a mean old turtle.

McConnell is a complete corporate whore. He has always taken the position that $$=speech. One principled position he took was against laws banning flag burning due to his 1st Amendment absolutism.

117 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:14:25pm

re: #107 b_sharp

The idea of separate human races is a fiction created to justify the legal, economic, and social violence/eliminationism.

The variance in the human genome is smaller than pretty much any other mammal species.

Well, the idea that said variance means anything other than "variance" is the fiction. Race is not the only such fiction bigot societies use to do this.

118 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:17:57pm

sigh... somedays you write the user mode hdlc device driver, and somedays the user mode hdlc device driver writes you

119 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:18:49pm

re: #117 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Well, the idea that said variance means anything other than "variance" is the fiction. Race is not the only such fiction bigot societies use to do this.

Variance is just a statistical number used to describe a population. Bigots will invent whatever they feel necessary to confirm their bias.

120 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:20:32pm

re: #118 engineer dog

sigh... somedays you write the user mode hdlc device driver, and somedays the user mode hdlc device driver writes you

I take it it's a balancing act.

121 Lidane  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:21:26pm

re: #55 moderatelyradicalliberal

On a serious note, the Obama Administration has been remarkably scandal free.

It's not for a lack of trying on the GOP's part, that's for damn sure.

122 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:22:58pm

Evening lizards!

Is there any way to make my iPad see Flash videos or pictures.

123 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:23:11pm

re: #121 Lidane

It's not for a lack of trying on the GOP's part, that's for damn sure.

The definition of the word scandal seems to be growing broader every day.

124 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:23:38pm

re: #55 moderatelyradicalliberal

On a serious note, the Obama Administration has been remarkably scandal free.

kein ahora!

(may the evil eye never hear about it!)

125 Lidane  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:24:09pm

re: #122 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards!

Is there any way to make my iPad see Flash videos or pictures.

Resurrect Steve Jobs and convince him to like Adobe.

126 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:24:14pm

re: #122 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards!

Is there any way to make my iPad see Flash videos or pictures.

No. Apple and Adobe hate each other. Apple hopes everyone will jump on the HTML5 bandwagon.

127 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:25:29pm

re: #114 b_sharp

It's pretty shocking to see what gets updings here these days. A 13 month old baby left to freeze to death. People seem to find it funny. Oh, well, so it goes.

128 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:26:23pm

...and that's all I have to say about that.

129 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:27:23pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

It's pretty shocking to see what gets updings here these days. A 13 month old baby left to freeze to death. People seem to find it funny. Oh, well, so it goes.

Rather sick and twisted. Progressive?

130 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:28:30pm

re: #122 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards!

Is there any way to make my iPad see Flash videos or pictures.

No. And the ipad hates LGF. I suffer, with my beautiful new device (CHARLES?)

I pulled out my pc laptop tonight because I wanted to contribute.

131 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:28:39pm

re: #126 b_sharp

No. Apple and Adobe hate each other. Apple hopes everyone will jump on the HTML5 bandwagon.

I don't know what that means but I have a feeling it's not going to happen any time soon.

132 KronoGhazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:28:50pm

re: #129 NJDhockeyfan

Rather sick and twisted. Progressive?

And there you go. That's what this incessant trolling is all about.

133 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:29:05pm

re: #125 Lidane

Resurrect Steve Jobs and convince him to like Adobe.

Eh, won't happen. I read Jobs' long rant about how Apple won't ever accept Flash, and is instead pushing for the wide scale adoption of HTML5.

134 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:29:36pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

No. And the ipad hates LGF. I suffer, with my beautiful new device (CHARLES?)

I pulled out my pc laptop tonight because I wanted to contribute.

I'm using my new iPad right now. It's ok but a few things aren't working.

135 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:30:10pm

re: #125 Lidane

Resurrect Steve Jobs and convince him to like Adobe.

I heard that part of his marketing genius was for us to want what we didnt have, and then be able to get it with the next release. And on, and on, and on.

136 KronoGhazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:30:18pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

It's pretty shocking to see what gets updings here these days. A 13 month old baby left to freeze to death. People seem to find it funny. Oh, well, so it goes.

I don't expect this from you.

137 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:30:52pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

It's pretty shocking to see what gets updings here these days. A 13 month old baby left to freeze to death. People seem to find it funny. Oh, well, so it goes.

fail oh concerned one

138 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:31:37pm

re: #131 NJDhockeyfan

I don't know what that means but I have a feeling it's not going to happen any time soon.

Boost power to the main deflector and invert the polarity of your internet browser.

139 palomino  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:31:54pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

It's pretty shocking to see what gets updings here these days. A 13 month old baby left to freeze to death. People seem to find it funny. Oh, well, so it goes.

I don't think anyone finds the baby freezing funny. My guess: They find your OWS OCD bizarre...and darkly humorous.

140 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:31:56pm

re: #132 BigPapa

And there you go. That's what this incessant trolling is all about.

Probably this:


re: #101 Killgore Trout

Man accused of leaving toddler alone in Occupy tent

re: #105 Stanley Sea

downding with the biggest laugh. Really, it was LOUD.

141 Lidane  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:31:59pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

Yes. Because that child was completely ignored the entire time it was crying. Oh wait.

An infant’s cries rang through the Occupy DC encampment in McPherson Square Wednesday morning, and when a group went to investigate they found only a baby girl alone in a tent, wearing a onesie and mittens.

Soon after, authorities said, a man had been arrested and the girl — who was unharmed — was in the city’s care.

The campers notified authorities and then cared for the girl until help arrived, according to Kelly Canavan, 36, a retired Prince George’s County school teacher who has been living at the camp.

Damn those heartless OWS hippies for calling the police and making sure the baby was safe until help arrived. What diabolical thing will they do next?

142 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:33:13pm

re: #140 NJDhockeyfan

Probably this:

re: #101 Killgore Trout

Because KT was using the incident to tar OWS as a whole.
Then again, you already knew that.

143 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:34:44pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

It's pretty shocking to see what gets updings here these days. A 13 month old baby left to freeze to death. People seem to find it funny. Oh, well, so it goes.

The baby being left alone isn't what is getting updinged, the expression of the tiredness people are feeling with your obsession with an effectively dead pseudo-movement is what is being updinged. You have become the boy who cried wolf.

The child's father is an idiot and will suffer the consequences of his actions.

144 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:35:02pm

re: #138 Varek Raith

Boost power to the main deflector and invert the polarity of your internet browser.

I won't have to worry about it after the 31st. I'll be back to dial up.

145 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:35:12pm

re: #131 NJDhockeyfan

I don't know what that means but I have a feeling it's not going to happen any time soon.

Basically, Apple and Adobe are having a snit. Apple says it won't have its products use Flash because it's buggy, attracts malware and viruses, and has no quality standard. Adobe declares that the reason Apple won't use Flash is because it's a totalitarian dictatorship that demands total control over what is and isn't played on its devices and is pushing HTML5 as a means of breaking Flash's dominance.

146 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:35:24pm

re: #139 palomino

I don't think anyone finds the baby freezing funny. My guess: They find your OWS OCD bizarre...and darkly humorous.

The stories Killgore picks now a days are so freaking self fulfilling.

It's almost like anti abortionists picking on horrible abortion stories. Really, that may be harsh, but really!

I scroll so much now, like the rest of you. but when is when?

147 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:35:25pm

re: #141 Lidane

Yes. Because that child was completely ignored the entire time it was crying. Oh wait.

Damn those heartless OWS hippies for calling the police and making sure the baby was safe until help arrived. What diabolical thing will they do next?

Abandoned and left for dead in a crowd of people who got her help as soon as they noticed, eh?

148 Jimmi the Grey  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:35:48pm

re: #141 Lidane

Yes. Because that child was completely ignored the entire time it was crying. Oh wait.

Damn those heartless OWS hippies for calling the police and making sure the baby was safe until help arrived. What diabolical thing will they do next?

It's the 99% of protesters being ignored in favor of the 1% who fit the narrative being presented.

149 KronoGhazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:35:51pm

re: #140 NJDhockeyfan

Probably this:

re: #101 Killgore Trout

re: #105 Stanley Sea

Doubling down on fail. This has nothing to do with babies and you know it.

It has everything to do with this:

Rather sick and twisted. Progressive?

The baby left alone in the tent is completely irrelevant to the bullshit OWS trolling that has been going on for months.

150 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:36:00pm

re: #140 NJDhockeyfan

Probably this:

re: #101 Killgore Trout

re: #105 Stanley Sea

Not good at clarity are you. ha!

151 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:37:05pm

re: #131 NJDhockeyfan

I don't know what that means but I have a feeling it's not going to happen any time soon.

People are moving their website over to HTML5 while still keeping Flash. Your iPad will eventually play all vids.

152 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:37:29pm

Here's a thought.
What if I applied KT's tactics towards OWS to that of the Church abuse scandal?
How many who support his posts on OWS would downding the hell out of me for doing the same to the Church?

;)

153 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:38:28pm

re: #149 BigPapa

Doubling down on fail. This has nothing to do with babies and you know it.

It has everything to do with this:

The baby left alone in the tent is completely irrelevant to the bullshit OWS trolling that has been going on for months.

FUCKING MONTHS.

154 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:38:30pm

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan

I'm using my new iPad right now. It's ok but a few things aren't working.

I read LGF on my iPad but I don't post and I don't watch the vids. Then I play Angry Birds.

155 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:38:44pm

goodnight binary, goodnight hex
goodnight for loop with control variable named x

156 Lidane  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:38:54pm

re: #147 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Abandoned and left for dead in a crowd of people who got her help as soon as they noticed, eh?

Not only did they get help, but they made sure she was safe and cared for until the paramedics and police arrived. Talk about abandoning a child and leaving her for dead.

Shocka! What will those filthy, evil hippies do next?

157 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:39:19pm

re: #151 b_sharp

People are moving their website over to HTML5 while still keeping Flash. Your iPad will eventually play all vids.

Some of the ones I've been to do support HTML5...if you pay a premium.

158 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:39:27pm

re: #93 mracb

my turtles...

Image: cimg0749mn8.jpg

You have a thermostat! Very nice. How old are they?

159 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:39:37pm

re: #136 BigPapa

I don't expect this from you.

Compulsive immersion in an obsession isn't healthy.

160 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:39:41pm

re: #155 engineer dog

goodnight binary, goodnight hex
goodnight for loop with control variable named x

You're losing it, aren't you???

161 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:40:31pm

Downdinging a news article about a baby left alone in a tent in the winter.
Lovely...
[puke]

162 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:40:36pm

re: #156 Lidane

Not only did they get help, but they made sure she was safe and cared for until the paramedics and police arrived. Talk about abandoning a child and leaving her for dead.

Shocka! What will those filthy, evil hippies do next?

I don't know, but I'm sure Killgore will not hesitate to let us know the moment it happens. Apparently its slide into obscurity hasn't been fast or messy enough.

163 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:40:45pm

re: #138 Varek Raith

Boost power to the main deflector and invert the polarity of your internet browser.

He'll blow the 10A fuses if he does that.

164 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:41:17pm

re: #159 b_sharp

Compulsive immersion in an obsession isn't healthy.

But it does make it an obsession.

165 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:41:47pm

re: #156 Lidane

Not only did they get help, but they made sure she was safe and cared for until the paramedics and police arrived. Talk about abandoning a child and leaving her for dead.

Shocka! What will those filthy, evil hippies do next?

Ah, you read the story. Killgore just posts the heading and waits and baits. With his followers along.

STEVE?

My main objection is that we are letting emotional, not educational, posts continue.

166 jaunte  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:41:48pm

re: #100 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

undercover film auteur James O’Keefe

The Daily Caller is really making a silk purse out of that one.

167 Lidane  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:42:21pm

re: #161 NJDhockeyfan

Downdinging a news article about a baby left alone in a tent in the winter.
Lovely...
[puke]

Ignoring the fact that other people in that OWS camp helped the baby as soon as she was discovered, and also got the police involved.

Lovely.

168 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:42:26pm

re: #161 NJDhockeyfan

Downdinging a news article about a baby left alone in a tent in the winter.
Lovely...
[puke]

Turns out it was actually a story about good-hearted Samaritans, upon finding an abandoned baby, going out of their way to make sure it was safe.

It's a nice story, don't you think?

169 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:43:24pm

re: #154 b_sharp

I read LGF on my iPad but I don't post and I don't watch the vids. Then I play Angry Birds.

This is my second time using the iPad on LGF. It works good enough. I am noticing some things aren't working like the new comments button not showing the number on comments posted.

170 Lidane  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:43:26pm

re: #168 Obdicut

Turns out it was actually a story about good-hearted Samaritans, upon finding an abandoned baby, going out of their way to make sure it was safe.

It's a nice story, don't you think?

Pfft. It involves OWS. Clearly, we must consider everyone involved evil, even the campers who called the cops AND kept the baby safe.

171 palomino  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:43:35pm

re: #161 NJDhockeyfan

Downdinging a news article about a baby left alone in a tent in the winter.
Lovely...
[puke]

You can't really be that dense, can you?

No one's downdinging the article; they're downdinging KT's continuous use of any incident related to OWS to demonize and delegitimize everything about the movement.

172 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:44:04pm

*Shakes head*

173 Big Joe Ghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:44:21pm

re: #158 prairiefire

It's unknown how old they are, I rescued them from somebody who bought them on craigslist, I've had them 5 years and they've grown about 1/2-3/4". I'd say they are probably 20-30 years old. The tank is now bare as they ate the rocks, dug up the bottom filter and basically destroy anything in the tank.

174 KronoGhazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:44:23pm

re: #161 NJDhockeyfan

Downdinging a news article about a baby left alone in a tent in the winter.
Lovely...
[puke]

We're downdinging your trolling, progressive hating, and outright dishonest interpretation of the baby event.

What's silly is that you think anybody may believe your BS.

175 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:44:52pm

re: #172 Varek Raith

*Shakes head*

OWS was behind the Endor Holocaust.

176 Lidane  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:44:53pm

re: #165 Stanley Sea

Ah, you read the story.

I have a bad habit of doing that. Kinda gets in the way of falling for obvious trolling attempts.

177 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:44:53pm

re: #152 Varek Raith

Here's a thought.
What if I applied KT's tactics towards OWS to that of the Church abuse scandal?
How many who support his posts on OWS would downding the hell out of me for doing the same to the Church?

;)

Go for it. I'll upding you.

178 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:45:50pm

re: #151 b_sharp

People are moving their website over to HTML5 while still keeping Flash. Your iPad will eventually play all vids.

Is that why I can see YouTube videos?

179 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:46:05pm

re: #158 prairiefire

You have a thermostat! Very nice. How old are they?

The thermostat is only a couple of years old.

180 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:46:18pm

And how many children will die because the GOP think vaccination is hocus pocus? Or AGW? Or pollution regs?
Is that sick or what?

181 KronoGhazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:46:43pm

re: #171 palomino

You can't really be that dense, can you?

No one's downdinging the article; they're downdinging KT's continuous use of any incident related to OWS to demonize and delegitimize everything about the movement.

Either he really is that dense, or he's full of shit.

182 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:46:44pm

re: #172 Varek Raith

*Shakes head*

pukedom

183 palomino  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:47:18pm

re: #180 Varek Raith

And how many children will die because the GOP think vaccination is hocus pocus? Or AGW? Or pollution regs?
Is that sick or what?

Make sure you throw in a [puke] reaction too. It's classy and shows a serious intellectual approach.

184 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:47:52pm

re: #161 NJDhockeyfan

Downdinging a news article about a baby left alone in a tent in the winter.
Lovely...
[puke]

What about our statement that the baby story was not downdinged do you not understand?

185 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:48:28pm

re: #168 Obdicut

Turns out it was actually a story about good-hearted Samaritans, upon finding an abandoned baby, going out of their way to make sure it was safe.

It's a nice story, don't you think?

Since it is a very nice story, why all the downdings? KT only posted the title.

186 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:48:47pm

re: #179 b_sharp

The thermostat is only a couple of years old.

Dr. Weird: Gentleman..behold! The thermostat!
Steve: That's been there.
Dr. Weird: Observe as I adjust the heat! Hahah.
Steve: Is it on?
Dr. Weird: You tell me! Hahah, oh, oh wait! (bursts into flames)

187 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:48:57pm

Trolling exposed. Now, what will happen?

Tomorrow 9 am. New OWS bs story. Researched and reported!

188 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:49:37pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

It's pretty shocking to see what gets updings here these days. A 13 month old baby left to freeze to death. People seem to find it funny. Oh, well, so it goes.

You'll get no pleasure in a downding from me, but I think many will agree that the "father" is a stupid fucking moron. Trying to make it all about OWS is specious at best, because I think he would have or has done stupid shit with his daughter long before this. Besides, when the baby started crying, everyone around came, took care of them, and called the cops; nice try though.

Stupid parents are stupid.

189 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:50:18pm

re: #175 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OWS was behind the Endor Holocaust.

Don't go there.

190 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:50:35pm

I, call on Killgore to respond to the shit he stirred.

191 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:50:36pm

re: #185 NJDhockeyfan

Since it is a very nice story, why all the downdings? KT only posted the title.

He never would've posted the story to begin with if it didn't have 'OWS' in the title.
;)

192 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:51:27pm

re: #189 b_sharp

Don't go there.

Image: Endor_Holocaust.jpg

193 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:51:52pm

re: #178 NJDhockeyfan

Is that why I can see YouTube videos?

Youtube vids are multiple formats.

194 palomino  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:52:08pm

re: #185 NJDhockeyfan

Since it is a very nice story, why all the downdings? KT only posted the title.

Context. Look it up, it's way easier to understand than computers.

KT didn't post it because it's a nice story. He posted it because of his obsession, which has a really ugly and dishonest dimension to it.

195 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:52:18pm

re: #186 Varek Raith

Dr. Weird: Gentleman..behold! The thermostat!
Steve: That's been there.
Dr. Weird: Observe as I adjust the heat! Hahah.
Steve: Is it on?
Dr. Weird: You tell me! Hahah, oh, oh wait! (bursts into flames)

MP3 Audio
196 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:52:22pm

re: #168 Obdicut

Turns out it was actually a story about good-hearted Samaritans, upon finding an abandoned baby, going out of their way to make sure it was safe.

It's a nice story, don't you think?

re: #190 Stanley Sea

I, call on Killgore to respond to the shit he stirred.

197 Jimmi the Grey  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:52:24pm

re: #185 NJDhockeyfan

Since it is a very nice story, why all the downdings? KT only posted the title.

Um, maybe:

re: #174 BigPapa

We're downdinging your trolling, progressive hating, and outright dishonest interpretation of the baby event.

What's silly that you think anybody may believe your BS.

or:

re: #171 palomino

You can't really be that dense, can you?

No one's downdinging the article; they're downdinging KT's continuous use of any incident related to OWS to demonize and delegitimize everything about the movement.

198 jaunte  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:54:10pm

re: #188 talon_262

Stupid parents are stupid.

"...Nebraska found itself facing an epidemic of abandoned children after the legislature passed a law in July that allowed parents to leave their children at a safe place, like a hospital, without fear of prosecution. It was one of the last states in the country to pass such legislation — but the law contained a large loophole by including children of all ages. The legislature gathered on Friday in a special session to fix the safe-haven law. The day before, three more kids were abandoned at Omaha hospitals, bringing the total to 34 since mid-September, shortly after the law was passed."
[Link: www.time.com...]

199 Petero1818  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:54:27pm

re: #174 BigPapa

Look I can't help you if you don't see that Obama, through his support of the occupy movement, is an accessory to child endangerment.///

200 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:55:03pm

Flash is dead.

201 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:56:01pm

re: #191 Varek Raith

He never would've posted the story to begin with if it didn't have 'OWS' in the title.
;)

I can't speak for KT but I think it's a very sad story seeing some asshole leave a baby in a tent during winter and that would be a big story whether it was from an OWS protester or a camper in the mountains. Don't you think?

202 KronoGhazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:57:35pm

re: #185 NJDhockeyfan

Since it is a very nice story, why all the downdings? KT only posted the title.

You know why. Or you're really not that smart.

203 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:58:00pm

re: #201 NJDhockeyfan

I can't speak for KT but I think it's a very sad story seeing some asshole leave a baby in a tent during winter and that would be a big story whether it was from an OWS protester or a camper in the mountains. Don't you think?

We've said as much.

204 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:58:06pm

Ice stops progress of Alaska fuel convoy

The Coast Guard icebreaker and Russian fuel tanker trying to resupply icebound Nome, Alaska, made no progress on Tuesday, a Coast Guard spokesperson said early Wednesday.

Petty Officer 1st Class Sara Francis confirmed an online report from Alaska Dispatch that the Russian-flagged fuel tanker, the Renda, only advanced about 50 feet on Tuesday. That was in stark contrast to what the Renda and the icebreaker, the Coast Guard cutter Healy, did on Monday, when they battled through 50 miles of the ice-covered Bering Sea.

The ships are about 100 miles from Nome, a town of 3,600 on Alaska's western coast.

“Tough sledding. Healy is trying to free Renda right now from an ice ridge,” Carter Whalen, president of Alaska Marine Pilots, told Alaska Dispatch in an email. The pilot aboard the Renda, Pete Garay, confirmed the situation.

The two-ship convoy carrying 1.3 million gallons of fuel had hoped to make it to Nome by late Thursday or early Friday, but that was before Tuesday's standstill.

The Sitnasuak Native Corp. of Nome contracted the Renda to deliver the fuel after ice formed over the Bering Sea in the wake of a ferocious November storm that prevented the last delivery of the season via barge.

It is the first attempt to supply fuel to an Arctic Alaska settlement through sea ice.

Nome is in no immediate danger of running out of fuel, Coast Guard Capt. Craig Lloyd, who is coordinating the mission, said earlier. The town has enough fuel to last until about March, but the delivery was attempted now because it would have been even more difficult then, he said.

205 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:58:15pm

re: #200 Amory Blaine

Flash is dead.

Just on mobile devices and only for apps. Web-browsing, particularly with desktops, is still very much alive. I should know, seems like I have to update almost weekly.

206 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:58:41pm

re: #201 NJDhockeyfan

I can't speak for KT but I think it's a very sad story seeing some asshole leave a baby in a tent during winter and that would be a big story whether it was from an OWS protester or a camper in the mountains. Don't you think?

I'm cynical enough to believe that it would be based on whether or not the media thought it would sell.

For every story about abuse that makes the national news, lots don't.

207 freetoken  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:59:24pm

IDiot Ben Stein sues because a big company doesn't want him soiling their reputation:

Ben Stein Suit Says Kyocera Unit Canceled Ads Over Climate Views

Actor Ben Stein sued a U.S. unit of Kyocera Corp., alleging a $300,000 agreement for him to appear in printer commercials and to give a speech at a company event was withdrawn because of his views on global warming.

[...]

Stein said he told Kyocera “he was by no means certain that global warming was man-made” and “As a matter of religious belief, he believed that God, and not man, controlled the weather.”

[...]

208 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 7:59:31pm

re: #201 NJDhockeyfan

I can't speak for KT but I think it's a very sad story seeing some asshole leave a baby in a tent during winter and that would be a big story whether it was from an OWS protester or a camper in the mountains. Don't you think?

Personally don't know which is more frustrating: That such stories happen all the time, not only in this country by across the globe, or that this case is only deemed "relevant" because it happened at an OWS camp.

209 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:00:24pm

re: #200 Amory Blaine

Flash is dead.

Does HTML5 work or look better than flash?

210 b_snark  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:00:27pm

The attempt to wind us up is getting tired, as am I, so I'm heading for the sack. Keep up the good fight all you nasty progressives.

211 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:01:11pm

re: #201 NJDhockeyfan

I can't speak for KT but I think it's a very sad story seeing some asshole leave a baby in a tent during winter and that would be a big story whether it was from an OWS protester or a camper in the mountains. Don't you think?

oh, you are so transparently fake.

this whole shitshow, for the past 2 months, makes me cry for the logical, thoughtful, debate worthy LGF. And yes, I conjure up the validity of this blog when I see this bullshit. It's hurting it, the blog, and maybe the pride in us will make it stop.

212 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:01:25pm

re: #173 mracb

They look like the type my brothers and I would get for 25 cents from Walgreen's, and then accidently drown in our blow up pool. They are lucky to have you!

213 palomino  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:01:34pm

re: #201 NJDhockeyfan

I can't speak for KT but I think it's a very sad story seeing some asshole leave a baby in a tent during winter and that would be a big story whether it was from an OWS protester or a camper in the mountains. Don't you think?

Do you honestly think any of us don't find it to be sad when a baby freezes in winter?

If the answer is NO, what's the point of your post? That when babies get hurt, it sucks? What a brilliant and novel observation. Maybe for your next stupid human trick, you can tell us the respective colors of the sky and grass.

214 freetoken  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:01:48pm

Everything is bigger in Texas:


Texas' emissions top EPA list

215 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:03:22pm

re: #201 NJDhockeyfan

I can't speak for KT but I think it's a very sad story seeing some asshole leave a baby in a tent during winter and that would be a big story whether it was from an OWS protester or a camper in the mountains. Don't you think?

Oh, don't kid yourself; it's pretty obvious the only reason he brought this up was because it happened at an Occupy event. Something that happens every day all around the world, from the abandonment to Good Samaritans stepping in, getting the authorities involved, and making sure the child was OK until the authorities arrived; OWS has nothing to do with the countless times this scenario plays out across the world, just stupid or scared parents.

In this case, the parent is a moron.

216 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:03:45pm

re: #207 freetoken

IDiot Ben Stein sues because a big company doesn't want him soiling their reputation:

Ben Stein Suit Says Kyocera Unit Canceled Ads Over Climate Views

GOD CONTROL FIRE! BBQ IS THE TOOL OF THE DEVIL!

217 Big Joe Ghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:04:08pm

re: #212 prairiefire

They look like the type my brothers and I would get for 25 cents from Walgreen's, and then accidently drown in our blow up pool. They are lucky to have you!

They are. They are the same dollar sized red eared sliders that kids bought and let die, only these didn't die. now they are 7 and 8" shell length.

218 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:04:15pm

re: #216 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

GOD CONTROL FIRE! BBQ IS THE TOOL OF THE DEVIL!

MONGO WANT MAMMOTH BURGER!

219 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:04:54pm

re: #155 engineer dog

goodnight binary, goodnight hex
goodnight for loop with control variable named x

That's fantastic.

220 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:05:53pm

re: #219 prairiefire

:-)

enkew!

221 allegro  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:06:21pm

Y'all do realize that KT is using OWS as some kind of performance art here, don't you? He posts some article with a provocative title and then sits back. never participating, to watch the resulting melee.

I find it kinda sad and pathetic really. Such a lonely life. Or something.

222 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:08:54pm

re: #221 allegro

Y'all do realize that KT is using OWS as some kind of performance art here, don't you? He posts some article with a provocative title and then sits back. never participating, to watch the resulting melee.

I find it kinda sad and pathetic really. Such a lonely life. Or something.

His "participation" lately has been limited to playing the victim, bemoaning how we beat up on him for bringing real need-to-know stories and topics about the evils of OWS here. It got tiring a month ago, now it's simply trolling for attention.

223 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:09:06pm

Ben Stein is basically arguing that Man can have no affect on his environment, due to his religious beliefs.

I guess man wasn't meant to fly either.

224 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:10:31pm

re: #223 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ben Stein is basically arguing that Man can have no affect on his environment, due to his religious beliefs.

I guess man wasn't meant to fly either.

Oh, if I had a nickel for every time a denier has told me that AGW can't be happening because God wouldn't allow it, but if it is happening, then there's nothing we can do to slow or stop it because it's God's will, I could pay off the national debt.

225 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:10:39pm

re: #223 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ben Stein is basically arguing that Man can have no affect on his environment, due to his religious beliefs.

I guess man wasn't meant to fly either.

Someone should inform Ben as to what a full scale nuclear war will do to the earth.

226 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:11:00pm

re: #209 NJDhockeyfan

Does HTML5 work or look better than flash?

Direct HTML support for video, drawing, animation, and audio is one of the benefits, meaning developers don't have to use 3rd party tools like Flash requiring a plug-in and bogging the browser down. Which benefits us by having a snappier browser and more open development.

227 blueraven  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:11:26pm

re: #221 allegro

Y'all do realize that KT is using OWS as some kind of performance art here, don't you? He posts some article with a provocative title and then sits back. never participating, to watch the resulting melee.

I find it kinda sad and pathetic really. Such a lonely life. Or something.

Cheap entertainment I guess.

228 Lidane  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:11:44pm

re: #221 allegro

If I wanted troll-tastic performance art, I could find it on YouTube:

Youtube Video

Heh.

229 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:11:49pm

re: #221 allegro

Y'all do realize that KT is using OWS as some kind of performance art here, don't you? He posts some article with a provocative title and then sits back. never participating, to watch the resulting melee.

I find it kinda sad and pathetic really. Such a lonely life. Or something.

Or another online melt down. I hate it.

He needs to stand up. I asked. I'm so tired of scrolling all the fucking time. Some peeps here support him. Please do so logically, right now. Or else it's the slow mo online meltdown.

230 Petero1818  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:12:31pm

re: #223 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ben Stein is basically arguing that Man can have no affect on his environment, due to his religious beliefs.

I guess man wasn't meant to fly either.

Much in the same way he is not certain that people having sex are responsible for creating life in this world as God, not human beings create life .

231 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:15:12pm

re: #228 Lidane

If I wanted troll-tastic performance art, I could find it on YouTube:

[Video]Heh.

Youtube Video
232 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:15:30pm

re: #221 allegro

Y'all do realize that KT is using OWS as some kind of performance art here, don't you? He posts some article with a provocative title and then sits back. never participating, to watch the resulting melee.

I find it kinda sad and pathetic really. Such a lonely life. Or something.

I agree with the "some kind of performance art" part. Awfully long chains lying around his place to pull on. He just steps back to watch the bells ringing.

233 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:17:49pm

There is not just Occupy Wall Street protesters that seem to be everywhere. I've seen Occupy Portland, Occupy DC, Occupy Philly, etc. there seems to be an endless amount of Occupy names the protesters are using.

Now we have Occupy AIPAC protesters with some real nasty people involved in it.

234 KronoGhazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:18:27pm

re: #223 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ben Stein is basically arguing that Man can have no affect on his environment, due to his religious beliefs.

I guess man wasn't meant to fly either.

I heard Limbaugh make the same argument about 20 years ago. Basically, man is arrogant to think he can control the world. People who suggest as much are therefore arrogant, or, have an ulterior motive to manipulate the rest of us.

Classic Mos Defianism.

235 KronoGhazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:19:02pm

re: #233 NJDhockeyfan

Derp.

236 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:20:50pm

re: #235 BigPapa

Derp.

Regurg-derp

237 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:20:57pm

Gee, the GECK sure is crashy tonight.

238 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:21:30pm

re: #237 Varek Raith

Gee, the GECK sure is crashy tonight.

Well, it's supposed to be a one-time deal. That's why every Vault only gets one.

/

239 jaunte  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:23:05pm

Baby sloths in a bath

Just sayin’

240 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:23:55pm

Bolton is on board! I thought it was Gingrich who was gonna hire him?

AmbJohnBolton John Bolton
Imperative we nominate a candidate who puts America first and can beat Obama. The candidate best suited to do so is Mitt Romney.

241 KronoGhazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:24:27pm

re: #223 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ben Stein is basically arguing that Man can have no affect on his environment, due to his religious beliefs.

I guess man wasn't meant to fly either.

Man can have no effect on his environment?

Thousands of years of ag development, large scale warfare, chemical pollution, AGW. Imagine if we had a real nuclear conflict.

Such a belief is significantly detached from reality.

242 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:24:34pm

lol

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

243 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:25:34pm

re: #242 SpaceJesus

lol

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

Whut

244 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:25:42pm

re: #240 Stanley Sea

Bolton is on board! I thought it was Gingrich who was gonna hire him?

Well, that's it, Newt lost the warmonger vote.

245 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:26:16pm

re: #240 Stanley Sea

Bolton is on board! I thought it was Gingrich who was gonna hire him?

We don't have much of a voting choice here in Virginia. It's Romney or Luap Nor.

246 allegro  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:26:34pm

re: #241 BigPapa

Man can have no effect on his environment?

Thousands of years of ag development, large scale warfare, chemical pollution, AGW. Imagine if we had a real nuclear conflict.

Such a belief is significantly detached from reality.

The only ones who can think/feel that way are those who are so far removed from it that a day enjoying nature is a day in front of a PBS special on TV. And then they change the channel to the war movie on AMC.

247 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:27:11pm

re: #240 Stanley Sea

Bolton is on board! I thought it was Gingrich who was gonna hire him?

Am I the only lizard that thinks Mitt is just like Gordan Geko in Wall Street?
I half expect him in the next debate to say that greed is good..

248 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:27:58pm

re: #247 HoosierHoops

Am I the only lizard that thinks Mitt is just like Gordan Geko in Wall Street?
I half expect him in the next debate to say that greed is good..

I'd buy that for a dollar!

/

249 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:28:55pm

re: #243 Varek Raith


phoenix has lots of old, confused, conserative people in it

250 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:29:22pm

re: #242 SpaceJesus

lol

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

The move will cost the state $105 million out of its current budget surplus. [...] Benson acknowledged the state actually got only $81 million for the state House, the Senate and the nine-story executive tower that includes Brewer's office when it negotiated a “sale-leaseback'' arrangement in 2010.

How low idiot can we go average voters?

251 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:29:50pm

re: #249 SpaceJesus

phoenix has lots of old, confused, conserative people in it

I had to read that article twice.
Mah head hurtz.

252 jaunte  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:30:34pm

re: #247 HoosierHoops

It's kind of funny that he's got all his opponents pretending to be against
"getting rich off failures and sticking it to someone else " as Perry put it.

253 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:33:28pm

re: #247 HoosierHoops

Am I the only lizard that thinks Mitt is just like Gordan Geko in Wall Street?
I half expect him in the next debate to say that greed is good.!.

Ha! somehow he's going to be on the wire to respond to Bain. Maybe he will blow it.

254 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:39:38pm

re: #253 Stanley Sea

Ha! somehow he's going to be on the wire to respond to Bain. Maybe he will blow it.

Wall Street was a great morality play of economic society in America...
Ironic that Charlie Sheen was the good guy...
Maybe what OWS is saying is that there is no morality on Wall Street...
Maybe we have become so rich we have lost our way.. Greed is good per say

255 allegro  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:41:48pm

re: #253 Stanley Sea

Ha! somehow he's going to be on the wire to respond to Bain. Maybe he will blow it.

The Bain thing has major legs. Twice today, it has come up in conversation with neighbors when I've been out walking the pooches. The response is one of disgust with Romney. Also, in both conversations came up his "I like to fire people who provide service to me" thing. He is clearly not at all likable to those who would otherwise want to vote for him.

256 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:46:13pm

Image: qgPYY.png

257 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:49:28pm

re: #256 SpaceJesus

Image: qgPYY.png

Yeah, that's the kind of stuff a presidential contender wants on the Internets.

258 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:51:14pm

re: #257 prairiefire

Yeah, that's the kind of stuff a presidential contender wants on the Internets.

in his defense, romney did create the job of "tarmac shoe shine"


this our guy. this is our job creator.

259 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:52:39pm

imagine what other lavish corporate crony shit romney has that america would love to find out about during a recession.

260 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:52:42pm

re: #258 SpaceJesus

in his defense, romney did create the job of "tarmac shoe shine"

this our guy. this is our job creator.

That probably is his idea of job creation, seems to be the case for most of his fellow opponents. "You there, peon, these shoes ain't going to shine themselves. If you do a good job, I'll throw in a shiny new nickel."

261 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:53:03pm

more, yet

The war between the Gingrich and Romney camps is escalating over the former speaker’s threats to sue TV stations that continue to air attack ads by a Romney super PAC claiming that he was "fined" $300,000 for ethics violations.

In a letter sent to TV stations in Florida and South Carolina, Stefan Passantino, national counsel to the Gingrich presidential campaign, wrote that the ads asserting that Gingrich was "fined" for violating House ethics rules are "NOT TRUE" and represent "a defamatory communication which exposes this station to potential civil liability.

"In turn, we do hereby DEMAND that your station immediately REFUSE, and if started, CEASE airing any such advertisements," continues the letter, which is dated Jan. 6. Passantino added in an email Wednesday to NBC News: “With this letter, Newt Gingrich has put Mitt Romney’s SuperPAC on notice that the free ride they have enjoyed to misstate Newt’s record are over. Discussing true facts concerning one’s record are fine, using SuperPAC funds to mislead voters will no longer be tolerated.”

[Link: nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com...]

262 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:55:09pm

re: #256 SpaceJesus

Image: qgPYY.png

OH BOY

263 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:57:15pm

SHIT SHOW

264 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:57:21pm

re: #256 SpaceJesus

Image: qgPYY.png

Lol.
Derpy should've had that done while he was on the plane...

265 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:58:07pm

re: #261 engineer dog

more, yet

The war between the Gingrich and Romney camps is escalating over the former speaker’s threats to sue TV stations that continue to air attack ads by a Romney super PAC claiming that he was "fined" $300,000 for ethics violations.

In a letter sent to TV stations in Florida and South Carolina, Stefan Passantino, national counsel to the Gingrich presidential campaign, wrote that the ads asserting that Gingrich was "fined" for violating House ethics rules are "NOT TRUE" and represent "a defamatory communication which exposes this station to potential civil liability.

"In turn, we do hereby DEMAND that your station immediately REFUSE, and if started, CEASE airing any such advertisements," continues the letter, which is dated Jan. 6. Passantino added in an email Wednesday to NBC News: “With this letter, Newt Gingrich has put Mitt Romney’s SuperPAC on notice that the free ride they have enjoyed to misstate Newt’s record are over. Discussing true facts concerning one’s record are fine, using SuperPAC funds to mislead voters will no longer be tolerated.”

[Link: nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com...]

Most candidates, when their chances are sunk, quietly slink away and hope they can return another day.

Newt just implodes with the intensity of a nuclear bomb just to be purely vindictive.

266 jaunte  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:58:11pm

Executive Shoe Shine

267 Petero1818  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:59:56pm

re: #260 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

That probably is his idea of job creation, seems to be the case for most of his fellow opponents. "You there, peon, these shoes ain't going to shine themselves. If you do a good job, I'll throw in a shiny new nickel."

I laughed when I saw that picture. But it is not a shoe shine. It is a security screening with a wand on his shoes at a private jet terminal. Still is a great picture though.

268 Lidane  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 8:59:57pm

re: #231 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

[Video]

Youtube Video
269 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:00:40pm

re: #264 Varek Raith

Lol.
Derpy should've had that done while he was on the plane...

That reminded me of the tizzy that the Right worked themselves about Edwards in '04. Remember "Silky Pony"? And having hairdressers style his hair while his plane was sitting on the tarmac?

Seriously, does Romney think that when people call him "Mr. 1%," it's a compliment?

270 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:00:54pm

re: #267 Petero1818

I laughed when I saw that picture. But it is not a shoe shine. It is a security screening with a wand on his shoes at a private jet terminal. Still is a great picture though.

Lol, is that what it is.
Whoops, silly me.
XD

271 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:01:20pm

re: #233 NJDhockeyfan

There is not just Occupy Wall Street protesters that seem to be everywhere. I've seen Occupy Portland, Occupy DC, Occupy Philly, etc. there seems to be an endless amount of Occupy names the protesters are using.

Now we have Occupy AIPAC protesters with some real nasty people involved in it.

Looks like a Code Pink operation. Also notice that they use an Adbusters image here. Also part of the Freedom Flotilla II and are in support of Bradley Manning.

272 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:01:38pm

Headline (AP)
Rick Santorum refuses to admit he is a Homo Sapien

273 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:02:05pm

Later gators.

274 Petero1818  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:04:14pm

re: #270 Varek Raith

Lol, is that what it is.
Whoops, silly me.
XD

Thats what it looks like to me. But first time I saw it I thought it was a shoe shine. Looks like a metal detector wand though not like any shoe shine thing i have ever seen.

275 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:05:14pm

night peeps!

276 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:05:33pm

Contrary to popular belief Medea Benjamin is still an asshole.

277 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:07:09pm

Think I'm gonna pack it in for the night as well. Later lizards.

278 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:07:41pm

Heh.

279 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:08:28pm

New entry at Urban Dictionary.

Puritopian

A Puritopian is a self-described liberal or progressive whose political orientation is to be angry, dissatisfied and unhappy with the state of the nation, because in their view, liberal policies are not being implemented quickly or forcefully enough. They have particular contempt for Democratic presidents.

They are ideological purists who disdain compromise and incremental change, which they see as "selling out" liberal ideas like full employment, an end to war, and liberal social policy. Their views can often sound like utopian fantasy where opposing views never exist.

Puritopians dislike Republicans but reserve their greatest disdain for Democratic presidents, whom they relentlessly attack for not meeting a set of ideological goal posts that are constantly adjusted to ensure that the president will be deemed a disappointment, "not progressive enough" or "just like a Republican" no matter what policy achievements are made.

Puritopians routinely dismiss or ignore congress' role in making or impeding policy, believing presidents can simply "use the bully pulpit" in order to overcome constitutional or legislative obstacles.

Puritopians have a strong affinity for third party politics as a way to punish Democratic presidents. They are especially hostile to President Barack Obama and deem anyone who expresses a lack of ill will toward him to be "Obamabots" and enemies of liberalism.

280 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:10:19pm

re: #276 Gus 802

Contrary to popular belief Medea Benjamin is still an asshole.

She's hiring an intern.

Occupy AIPAC Campaign intern
CODEPINK: Women for Peace

281 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:11:55pm

re: #267 Petero1818

I laughed when I saw that picture. But it is not a shoe shine. It is a security screening with a wand on his shoes at a private jet terminal. Still is a great picture though.

He still gets to sit in a chair!

282 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:14:28pm

re: #281 prairiefire

He still gets to sit in a chair!

Could you imagine the fuss if he refused to be screened and that fact got out?

283 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:16:57pm

It's late. I'll check you silly lizards later.

284 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:19:03pm

re: #274 Petero1818


hm, sure on that? seems weird with the chair

285 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:20:16pm

re: #279 Gus 802

heh

this is what has been driving me crazy at certain other progressive blogs...

286 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:21:02pm

Bon Iver will be the SNL musical guest on 2/4.

287 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:21:44pm

re: #269 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

That reminded me of the tizzy that the Right worked themselves about Edwards in '04. Remember "Silky Pony"? And having hairdressers style his hair while his plane was sitting on the tarmac?

Seriously, does Romney think that when people call him "Mr. 1%," it's a compliment?

Well, at least unlike Edwards Mitt Romney actually tried to do productive things (and succeeded more often than not). John Edwards is an example of utter moral DERPitutde.

288 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:23:31pm

re: #279 Gus 802

New entry at Urban Dictionary.

Puritopian

Perfect way to smack down a bunch of morons who can't understand politics.

289 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:24:19pm

re: #285 engineer dog

heh

this is what has been driving me crazy at certain other progressive blogs...

I think Shoq wrote that but I'm not certain.

290 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:29:13pm

Have a good Thursday, lizards.

291 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:31:14pm

re: #289 Gus 802

I think Shoq wrote that but I'm not certain.

Never mind. She did write that and it's noted in the UD entry.

292 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:37:53pm

How cute, O'Keefe thinks he's a journalist

It’s just another kind of hard-hitting investigative journalism, insists conservative video activist James O’Keefe, who is now facing a state investigation.

“There is definitely a double standard against citizen journalists,” said O’Keefe. His undercover stings embarrassed ACORN in 2009, when he posed as a pimp seeking criminal advice from the left-leaning community service organization — and prompted high-level resignations at NPR, after an O’Keefe team posing as Muslim donors taped an executive calling Tea Party conservatives “seriously racist, racist people.”

“I notice a contempt and a hostility from the media establishment towards us,” O’Keefe told the Herald yesterday. “The journalism establishment is not very friendly to me or to our work product, when they’ve been using these tactics for decades.”

293 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:44:30pm

re: #292 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

How cute, O'Keefe thinks he's a journalist

Newspapers and non-FNC TV news-stations aren't hostile to James O'Keefe because he's an "internet journalist", they're hostile to him because he's a criminal and a liar.

I do hope that the current investigation results in charges being brought against him. He needs some jail time to sort hm out.

294 Lidane  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:48:38pm

This sucks. 120 years of history gone in the blink of an eye:

Small town bottler out of the Dr Pepper business

It's the end of an era for the Dr Pepper that so many of us love — the soft drink that's sweetened with real cane sugar and manufactured in a small-town Texas bottling plant.

Soft drinks are a cutthroat business. Coke and Pepsi have been fighting for years. Now comes Dr Pepper.

The story line: If you can't beat 'em, buy 'em. And one-third of the workers in a small business will lose their jobs as a result.

Dublin's Dr Pepper was made with pure cane sugar (instead of beet sugar or corn syrup) in the world's oldest Dr Pepper bottling plant located 75 miles southwest of Fort Worth. It has a devoted following.

Fans have been ordering cane sugar Dr Pepper over the Internet from a family-owned Dr Pepper bottler in Dublin.

But Plano-based Dr Pepper Snapple Group (DPS), which owns the brand for most of the country, took legal action because the plant was only authorized to distribute its product in a six-county territory.

:(

295 blueraven  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:49:54pm

re: #294 Lidane

Oh no!

296 blueraven  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:51:53pm

Oh hell...when I click my football it says Ive been blocked!
What did I do wrong?

297 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:52:33pm

re: #296 blueraven

Oh hell...when I click my football it says Ive been blocked!
What did I do wrong?

Hmmm. That's weird. It does.

298 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:02:59pm

re: #279 Gus 802

New entry at Urban Dictionary.

Puritopian

Left-confederate

Fundoprog

More dumb dupes

299 Big Joe Ghazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:05:02pm

re: #294 Lidane

They are selling "Throw-back" Dr Pepper with sugar at the grocery stores in California. I don't know if it's the same.

300 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:05:34pm

re: #298 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Left-confederate

Fundoprog

More dumb dupes

I'm finally starting to see a slow down in the NDAA misinformation and hysteria. They were completely ignoring the signing statement. Of course GG is still going at it. You might have missed it this morning but I discovered that Current (i.e. Current TV) is infested with Alex Jones weirdos.

301 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:05:56pm

re: #276 Gus 802

Contrary to popular belief Medea Benjamin is still an asshole.

When wasn't she?

302 abolitionist  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:06:41pm

A trivial point - Wookie (of Star Wars) was female, no?

303 Kragar  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:07:49pm

re: #302 abolitionist

A trivial point - Wookie (of Star Wars) was female, no?

Wookies are a species.

304 Lidane  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:08:00pm

re: #299 mracb

They are selling "Throw-back" Dr Pepper with sugar at the grocery stores in California. I don't know if it's the same.

It's not. I've had both and believe me, the Dublin Dr. Pepper was definitely a smoother taste.

I'm sad that there won't be anymore real Dublin Dr. Pepper. It was a family owned business for over 120 years. They're the oldest DP bottler in the country, or at least they were until this happened. I'm bummed. :(

305 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:08:03pm

re: #300 Gus 802

I'm finally starting to see a slow down in the NDAA misinformation and hysteria. They were completely ignoring the signing statement. Of course GG is still going at it. You might have missed it this morning but I discovered that Current (i.e. Current TV) is infested with Alex Jones weirdos.

I saw that. I'm not surprised in the slightest.

Thom Hartmann has been on RT for the past year, at least.

The crankodoodle still runs high in some of those circles.

306 The Survilist  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:08:04pm

re: #297 Gus 802

Interesting. Blocked, but still able to post. Have you reported this to Charles?

Edit. This post was meant for Blue Raven.

307 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:08:20pm

re: #296 blueraven

Oh hell...when I click my football it says Ive been blocked!
What did I do wrong?

That doesn't make any sense. If you were blocked, you shouldn't be able to post afterwards, so maybe this is some kind of bug? Report your own post so Charles/Stinky is aware.

Edit: A bug where someone who shouldn't be blocked is. I've looked through blueraven's recent comments and can't find a single one that would warrant this. Plus, people always tend to get timeouts or warnings first, unless it's a really egregious violation (e.g. violence threat, blatant bigotry, sock-puppeteering, etc)

308 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:09:05pm

re: #306 Bubblehead II

Interesting. Blocked, but still able to post. Have you reported this to Charles?

Sent a report just now.

309 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:11:32pm

re: #271 Gus 802

Looks like a Code Pink operation. Also notice that they use an Adbusters image here. Also part of the Freedom Flotilla II and are in support of Bradley Manning.

Oh swell. Another anti-Apartheid® Freedom Ride™ flotilla, launched from Northern Cyprus.

Occupied by Turkey, who gets their panties in a pinch when you mention today what they did to Armenians 100 years ago.

/evenmorehypocriticalthansocons

310 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:12:14pm

re: #305 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I saw that. I'm not surprised in the slightest.

Thom Hartmann has been on RT for the past year, at least.

The crankodoodle still runs high in some of those circles.

Oh God that nut. RT is infamous. It's basically Alex Jones meets Pravda meets Naomi Wolf.

Some dummy from Current Tweeted a PrisonPlanet page. Of course PrisonPlanet think climate change is some kind of NWO/Soros plot. And, Al Gore owns Current. Then I found a big PrisonPlanet/Inforwars "community" at Current.

311 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:13:38pm

re: #309 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Oh swell. Another anti-Apartheid® Freedom Ride™ flotilla, launched from Northern Cyprus.

Occupied by Turkey, who gets their panties in a pinch when you mention today what they did to Armenians 100 years ago.

/evenmorehypocriticalthansocons

Yep. As does Cenk Ugyur. Very strange "collective" there. Not to mention the associated hero worship of Hugo Chavez and Cindy Sheehan. Bleh.

312 The Survilist  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:15:12pm

re: #308 Gus 802

Must be a system glitch. Still shows Blue Raven logged in even though s/he is supposedly blocked. This has to be a first. Kinda like reading your obit in the Sunday paper.

Sorry for being so morbid Blue.

313 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:16:01pm

re: #311 Gus 802

Yep. As does Cenk Ugyur. Very strange "collective" there. Not to mention the associated hero worship of Hugo Chavez and Cindy Sheehan. Bleh.

Well, yeah. Mr. Young Turks has something to prove about that, I'll bet.

Fucking assholes.

314 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:16:09pm

re: #312 Bubblehead II

Must be a system glitch. Still shows Blue Raven logged in even though s/he is supposedly blocked. This has to be a first. Kinda like reading your obit in the Sunday paper.

Sorry for being so morbid Blue.

Yep. Charles just logged in. I imagine he'll look into it soon.

315 Jimmi the Grey  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:16:47pm

re: #296 blueraven

Oh hell...when I click my football it says Ive been blocked!
What did I do wrong?

Maybe you need more fiber?

/

316 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:18:02pm

re: #313 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Well, yeah. Mr. Young Turks has something to prove about that, I'll bet.

Fucking assholes.

One of my greatest fears, besides the obvious, is if Obama doesn't get re-elected and these loons get a lot of attention. Right now they're still rather dormant other than there rarely heard whining (ODS) on the usual channels.

317 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:19:54pm

OK blueraven. Looks like it's all good now.

318 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:21:58pm

re: #296 blueraven

No problem - small glitch in the matrix. Now fixed.

319 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:25:10pm

re: #316 Gus 802

One of my greatest fears, besides the obvious, is if Obama doesn't get re-elected and these loons get a lot of attention. Right now they're still rather dormant other than there rarely heard whining (ODS) on the usual channels.

Well, I've been beating back these crankodoodles for most of the '00s. Obama getting elected took the wind out of their sails for a couple minutes, but it did not take them long to turn their pitchforks on him, too.

I take heart in the fact that they're really too incompetent and ultimately apathetic to do much damage. They really resent people who get things done.

Have you read Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison? He really nailed their butts to the wall, way back in 1952. Not a whole lot has changed, in my opinion.

320 The Survilist  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:27:19pm

re: #318 Charles

No problem - small glitch in the matrix. Now fixed.

Must of been an Agent out to to get Blue.

Youtube Video
321 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:28:49pm

re: #319 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Well, I've been beating back these crankodoodles for most of the '00s. Obama getting elected took the wind out of their sails for a couple minutes, but it did not take them long to turn their pitchforks on him, too.

I take heart in the fact that they're really too incompetent and ultimately apathetic to do much damage. They really resent people who get things done.

Have you read Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison? He really nailed their butts to the wall, way back in 1952. Not a whole lot has changed, in my opinion.

I have been seeing a lot of push-back of late. Thankfully, they're a pretty small minority. But, they still drive me nuts sometimes.

Haven't read the book. You've mentioned it once before and I should probably read it.

322 blueraven  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:29:36pm

re: #318 Charles

No problem - small glitch in the matrix. Now fixed.

Whew! Thanks!

323 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:34:33pm

re: #318 Charles

No problem - small glitch in the matrix. Now fixed.

Fixed the glitch, huh?

/the Bobs

324 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:35:12pm

re: #73 moderatelyradicalliberal

Well you better hide you're not all the way white children if you have them. You'll never win public office if you don't!!!

I hadn't realized that the horrible attack ad on Huntsman 'just asks the question' of whether his Chinese daughter is really adopted.

Evil dumb people annoy me.

325 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:41:01pm

re: #304 Lidane

It's not. I've had both and believe me, the Dublin Dr. Pepper was definitely a smoother taste.

I'm sad that there won't be anymore real Dublin Dr. Pepper. It was a family owned business for over 120 years. They're the oldest DP bottler in the country, or at least they were until this happened. I'm bummed. :(

Apparently, the Dublin plant gave up its bottling rights to Dr. Pepper/Snapple Group brands in exchange for not being put completely out of business under the weight of corporate lawsuits. They're supposedly still bottling other brands and selling nostalgic beverage stuff, just not DPSG ones, as Dublin Bottling Works.

I live in Nashville, but I have half-a-mind to shoot DPSG off a letter, but then again, as the holders of the trademarks and formulas, DPSG is unfortunately within their rights, as shitty as they have gone about it.

That said, Coke and Pepsi (especially Coke, IMO) can be even more ruthless in dealing with their bottlers.

326 blueraven  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:41:11pm

re: #317 Gus 802

OK blueraven. Looks like it's all good now.

Thanks for reporting Gus!
I can go to sleep now...I was pretty sad for a while there.
Goodnight all.

327 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:45:20pm

re: #224 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Oh, if I had a nickel for every time a denier has told me that AGW can't be happening because God wouldn't allow it, but if it is happening, then there's nothing we can do to slow or stop it because it's God's will, I could pay off the national debt.

Divine Toddler Gate theory. I don't believe in it.

328 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:46:25pm

re: #233 NJDhockeyfan

There is not just Occupy Wall Street protesters that seem to be everywhere. I've seen Occupy Portland, Occupy DC, Occupy Philly, etc. there seems to be an endless amount of Occupy names the protesters are using.

Now we have Occupy AIPAC protesters with some real nasty people involved in it.

Hey, I countered one of their earliest demos!

329 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:47:45pm

re: #239 jaunte

Baby sloths in a bath

Just sayin’

Insanely cute.

330 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:50:55pm

re: #309 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Oh swell. Another anti-Apartheid® Freedom Ride™ flotilla, launched from Northern Cyprus.

Occupied by Turkey, who gets their panties in a pinch when you mention today what they did to Armenians 100 years ago.

/evenmorehypocriticalthansocons

Every so often someone proposes a counterflotilla to (landlocked) Kurdistan. So far nothing has come of it.

331 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:55:56pm

re: #294 Lidane

re: #304 Lidane

I sent DPSG this through their web contact form; not like they'll give two shits about me, but it made me feel better:

In regards to the Dublin Dr. Pepper "settlement", which sees them giving up their Dr. Pepper bottling rights in exchange for DPSG not driving them completely out of business under the weights of lawsuits, I think it's a travesty what your company has done this to one of your oldest bottlers. A bottler that used word-of-mouth and the Internet to sell a version of Dr. Pepper your company had given up on in the rest of the US for decades in favor of a formula sweetened by HFCS. Your "throwback" version may be technically the same as the Dublin version, in that it's also sweetened with cane sugar, but it isn't and will never be.

Don't bother replying back to this if an actual human isn't writing it, because robo-replies will be swiftly discarded.

On the subject of real sugar-sweetened drinks, I love me some Mexican Coke with real sugar in real glass bottles; however, you have to be careful, because some Mexican bottlers also use HFCS, so a look at the label is a must.

332 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 10:59:51pm

re: #309 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Oh swell. Another anti-Apartheid® Freedom Ride™ flotilla, launched from Northern Cyprus.

Occupied by Turkey, who gets their panties in a pinch when you mention today what they did to Armenians 100 years ago.

/evenmorehypocriticalthansocons

*Actual* anti-apartheid activists, against *actual* apartheid:

[Link: www.pbs.org...]

333 The Survilist  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 11:00:33pm

Night Lizards. May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.

But in the mean time, keep an eye out for Agents. One tried to take down Blueraven just a short time ago (Tongue firmly in cheek).

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

334 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 11:06:11pm

re: #330 SanFranciscoZionist

Turkey has had a Hyper-Nationalism problem since the end of the Ottoman Empire. And was very much present in the very final days (1890's-1910's) of the Ottoman Empire. I don't refer to the Armenian Genocide as such but call it The Proto-Holocaust. Because a) Lots of other groups were getting mangled at the same time and b) Hitler directly referred to the fate of the Armenians in talking about the Jewish Population of Europe.

Nothing thus far has solved it.

Though, with Northern Cyprus, I lean Turkish. The Greeks attempted to force their will on the minority Turks. It backfired.

Not only that, but Greece aided and abetted Serbia during the Bosnian Genocide, including at Srebrenica, and betrayed NATO. Both then, and in the Kosovo War 4 years later. What is happening to Greece and its people now is well deserved karma for the 90's.

335 Four More Tears  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 11:09:34pm

re: #331 talon_262

re: #304 Lidane

I sent DPSG this through their web contact form; not like they'll give two shits about me, but it made me feel better:

On the subject of real sugar-sweetened drinks, I love me some Mexican Coke with real sugar in real glass bottles; however, you have to be careful, because some Mexican bottlers also use HFCS, so a look at the label is a must.

Try Pepsi throwback. Good stuff.

336 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 11:14:11pm

Brrrr.

5 °F
Wind Chill: -10 °F (-23 °C)
Humidity: 85 %

337 Gus  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 11:21:36pm

Good. Night.

338 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 11:23:33pm

re: #334 ProLifeLiberal

What is happening to Greece and its people now is well deserved karma for the 90's.

Which is, in your opinion..?

339 sagehen  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 11:36:39pm

re: #294 Lidane

This sucks. 120 years of history gone in the blink of an eye:

Small town bottler out of the Dr Pepper business

:(

I still haven't forgiven Dr Pepper for discontinuing their Cherry Vanilla and Berries & Cream versions. I loved that stuff.

340 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jan 11, 2012 11:46:42pm

re: #161 NJDhockeyfan

Downdinging a news article about a baby left alone in a tent in the winter.
Lovely...
[puke]

Please, the only "people" in the social conservative universe are companies and the not/never-born.

When I see you pointing and crying about that, perhaps it will finally be time to pat you on the back for those crocodile tears.

341 freetoken  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 12:30:11am

And now, for some patriotic music... Chinese patriotic music that is. "Blood Soaked Elegance", which apparently shows up from time to time in documentaries or videos, a modern but still reverential version:

MP3 Audio

P.S. Don't tell the GOP Presidential candidates

342 freetoken  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 12:40:48am

re: #294 Lidane

This sucks. 120 years of history gone in the blink of an eye:

Small town bottler out of the Dr Pepper business

:(

From the article:

But Plano-based Dr Pepper Snapple Group (DPS), which owns the brand for most of the country, took legal action because the plant was only authorized to distribute its product in a six-county territory.

Hmmm... "Snapple"... isn't that the drink that Rush Limbaugh made famous and pushed onto his ditto heads? Certainly the golden mike of the EIB wouldn't support a corporation which turns to ruthless destruction of small business, huh?

343 dell*nix  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 12:51:43am

re: #342 freetoken

Now I got to find something else to drink. I was born in one of those six counties and still have kin there. Dr Pepper can kiss my custom goodby.

344 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 12:58:48am

re: #338 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The near bankruptcy of the Greek state, along with the massive austerity being put through.

Every other state in Europe I feel bad for. Not Greece. They earned this karma with the moral bankruptcy in the 90's.

345 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 1:06:38am

re: #342 freetoken

From the article:

Hmmm... "Snapple"... isn't that the drink that Rush Limbaugh made famous and pushed onto his ditto heads? Certainly the golden mike of the EIB wouldn't support a corporation which turns to ruthless destruction of small business, huh?

Snapple. Just saying "Snapple" takes me back to college.

I don't think I've had one since I finished my BA.

346 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 1:20:29am

re: #344 ProLifeLiberal

The near bankruptcy of the Greek state, along with the massive austerity being put through.

Every other state in Europe I feel bad for. Not Greece. They earned this karma with the moral bankruptcy in the 90's.

Ah. More of your collective punishment trip.

How about when Greece earns good karma?

347 researchok  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 1:23:24am

Morning, all

348 AK-47%  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 1:27:15am

re: #346 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Ah. More of your collective punishment trip.

How about when Greece earns good karma?

Not so much karma as the results of not changing behavior when the situation changed: when they had a nation a currency, they could always print their way out of debt and deflate the currency.

After they joined the euro, they lost that option but still behaved as if they could just print their way out of debt. Now they can't, they need to be bailed out but are annoyed that their creditors are attaching terms and conditions to the bailout.

349 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 1:28:54am

re: #346 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Considering they were acting in the same way the collaborationists did in WWII with Hitler, that will be a very long time. Greece not only didn't do anything, they also actively helped the murderers, impeded NATO actions, and even informed Serbia of NATO actions when possible. There was no nation in WWII that acted in this manner.

Not only that, but during the Kosovo intervention, the Greeks did a nice little Anti-US riot. And they still hate us for the defense we did of the Bosnians and Albanians.

350 researchok  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 1:31:14am

re: #341 freetoken

And now, for some patriotic music... Chinese patriotic music that is. "Blood Soaked Elegance", which apparently shows up from time to time in documentaries or videos, a modern but still reverential version:

[Video]P.S. Don't tell the GOP Presidential candidates

It's interesting in how 'Chinese music' has become so western in an almost pop style way. It's as if every musical cliche is used.

Given the current Chinese efforts to thwart the influx of western influence and culture, the irony can't be missed.

351 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 1:45:39am

re: #350 researchok

They blasted their own culture under Mao. I'm not that surprised.

352 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 1:48:08am

re: #348 ralphieboy

Not so much karma as the results of not changing behavior when the situation changed: when they had a nation a currency, they could always print their way out of debt and deflate the currency.

After they joined the euro, they lost that option but still behaved as if they could just print their way out of debt. Now they can't, they need to be bailed out but are annoyed that their creditors are attaching terms and conditions to the bailout.

Well that's my feeling. It has nothing to do with "karma" or deserving bad crap because of crap heaped on others at all.

353 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 1:51:11am

re: #349 ProLifeLiberal

Considering they were acting in the same way the collaborationists did in WWII with Hitler, that will be a very long time.

Got Godwin?

Not only that, but during the Kosovo intervention, the Greeks did a nice little Anti-US riot. And they still hate us for the defense we did of the Bosnians and Albanians.

All of them? Ok.

I'm still trying to get a sense of what their current economic crisis has to do with the above, in your view.

354 freetoken  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 2:53:57am
MP3 Audio
355 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 3:19:17am

Good morning Lizards.

Rainy and 50 F here in Philly. More like spring than January - though the sun comes up later than it should.

What's new in outrageous outrage land?

356 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 3:31:55am

re: #355 oaktree

What's new in outrageous outrage land?

A BUG FLEW INTO MY COFFEE!!!

357 BeenHereAwhile  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 3:32:07am

re: #234 BigPapa

"Classic Mos Defianism."

Wait a minute!!
I just clicked on this link which turned out to be a video link, and it played. LGF video links advise that my device needs Flash to play LGF video.
Did Charles remove Flash coding?

358 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 3:35:43am

re: #356 Varek Raith

A BUG FLEW INTO MY COFFEE!!!

Did it find the Galaxy there?

359 Flounder  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 3:54:29am

I don't know what all the outrage of the outrage is all about? In the original article, all of this information about an afternoon Halloween party with the children is present.
[Link: www.nypost.com...]

If you are going to be a shill for the Obama's, fine, I will agree to disagree.

360 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 3:58:48am

re: #359 Shropshire_Slasher

I'm sorry, I can't tell what you're referring to. The post claims that the party wasn't made public. It was.

And the party was for the children of military families, so why would expense on that be outrageous anyway?

Who is shilling for the Obamas?

361 Flounder  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:05:06am

re: #360 Obdicut


Because there were two parties, as stated in the article, the first one was promoted/reported on, the second was not.

362 AK-47%  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:06:54am

I am outraged. But then again, I was outraged before this article came out, it only serves to confirm the outrage I have felt ever since Obama was elected.

363 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:07:03am

re: #361 Shropshire_Slasher

Because there were two parties, as stated in the article, the first one was promoted/reported on, the second was not.

The second was reported on. I can find plenty of articles saying they were hosting military families at a private reception.

364 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:07:54am

re: #359 Shropshire_Slasher

It was so secret that the press were invited to take pics and posted the vid of it on the OFFICIAL WH SITE.
LOL.

365 Flounder  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:08:28am

re: #363 Obdicut

I would like to see them.

366 Flounder  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:09:56am

re: #362 ralphieboy

re: #364 Varek Raith


Please don' try to intimidate me.

367 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:12:11am

re: #366 Shropshire_Slasher

re: #364 Varek Raith

Please don' try to intimidate me.

Oh, please.
No one is intimidating you.

368 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:13:12am

re: #365 Shropshire_Slasher

I would like to see them.

Seriously, dude?

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

[Link: obamafoodorama.blogspot.com...]

And, most tellingly:

[Link: blogs.reuters.com...]

The scene was worthy of a Hollywood extravaganza. Bubble machines blanketed the North Portico, the ceremonial entrance to the White House. Pumpkins, some carved and candle lighted, lined the marble steps. Behind Obama stood a white-helmeted storm trooper character from “Star Wars,” along with the film’s Chewbacca, the hairy, apelike “wookie.”

Entertainers from the Chicago-based Redmoon Theater and other companies wove their own thrills and chills for those in line. A brass band clad in skeleton suits belted out a free jazz-style funeral stomp. Outsized figures on stilts simulated moving trees. Women in butterfly suits maneuvered inflatable, 10-foot (3-meter) snow-globe-like spheres on the White House lawn.

To heighten the Halloween effect, the White House was flood-lit through orange filters. Giant pumpkins weighing as much as 1,000 pounds (450-kg) dotted the 18-acre (7-hectare) grounds. And the big, black spider hung hauntingly between the tall white columns framing the front door.

After handing out the treats, the president welcomed the children of military families chosen by the armed services along with the kids of White House staff in the East Room.

So the big conspiracy is that Obama covered up that families of military children got to meet Johnny Depp? Because obviously they weren't hiding that they were making a big deal out of the holiday, and spending money on it.

369 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:13:44am

re: #365 Shropshire_Slasher

You skipped the question of who is shilling for the Obamas, by the way. Could you explain who is shilling for the Obamas?

370 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:14:45am

Pat Buchanan Blames ‘Militant Gay Rights Groups,’ ‘People Of Color’ For Pending MSNBC Termination

Yeah, that'll work you racist twit.

371 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:15:39am

re: #356 Varek Raith

A BUG FLEW INTO MY COFFEE!!!

R.I.P. Tinker Bell, 1904-2012.

372 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:15:45am

re: #370 Varek Raith

It was probably just those darn feminists again.

373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:26:58am

What we fighting about?

374 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:27:36am

re: #373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What we fighting about?

Last piece of cake.

375 Flounder  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:27:57am

re: #368 Obdicut

No mention of Depp or Burton
Mrs. Obama rocked the cat suit! (that is a compliment)
Thankyou obdi for looking that up.

376 AK-47%  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:31:36am

re: #370 Varek Raith

Pat Buchanan Blames ‘Militant Gay Rights Groups,’ ‘People Of Color’ For Pending MSNBC Termination

Yeah, that'll work you racist twit.

msnbc is a business operation. They made a business decision based on the fact that Buchannan is bad for their business.

Why do you hate capitalism, Mr. Buchannan?

377 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:33:57am

re: #375 Shropshire_Slasher

No mention of Depp or Burton
Mrs. Obama rocked the cat suit! (that is a compliment)
Thankyou obdi for looking that up.

Who fucking cares, though? It's still being described as a hollywood style extravaganza.

378 Flounder  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 4:34:30am

I will be back, gotta shovel snow, kids got a two hour delay so they get daddy made sammiches.

379 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 5:09:39am
MSNBC Video

Hmm. Here's an example of science catching up with someone apparently falsifying data to support their research results.

I am a bit curious why the researcher did so. Pet theory, seeking fame by finding something "new", or simply hubris in some variant.

380 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 5:32:26am

re: #377 Obdicut

Who fucking cares, though? It's still being described as a hollywood style extravaganza.

So what if it was?

381 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 5:33:21am

re: #379 oaktree

Easy to make a field goal when you are in control of the position/orientation/placement of the goal posts.

382 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 5:36:53am

re: #381 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Easy to make a field goal when you are in control of the position/orientation/placement of the goal posts.

Until an audit or someone trying to recreate your findings gets you caught. At which point your reputation, tenure, and career go down the tubes.

And given his research subjects I suddenly expect a lot of Italians to suddenly keel over with cardiovascular problems.
;)

383 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 5:39:25am

re: #382 oaktree

Until an audit or someone trying to recreate your findings gets you caught. At which point your reputation, tenure, and career go down the tubes.

Well... there is that.

384 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 5:41:10am

re: #380 Alouette

Morning, Lou.

385 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 5:42:14am

re: #384 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Morning, Lou.

Boker Tov, Veg.

386 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 5:43:40am

Morning Lizardim. Ahh, it feels like a proper January again. Now if only the skies would clear to go along with the bitter cold.

387 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 5:51:30am

re: #386 thedopefishlives

Fifty degrees here. WTF? (Why the face).

388 AK-47%  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 5:53:55am

We are expecting clear and cold (below freezing) here in Germany for the weekend. Been unseasonably mild so far this winter.

389 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 5:54:50am

re: #387 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fifty degrees here. WTF? (Why the face).

9 degrees F here right now (-13 degrees C), and I presume a couple of degrees colder than that when I got up for work two hours ago.

390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 5:57:30am

re: #389 thedopefishlives

I can't find what the temperature was here last year.

I think that it was cold as hell and snowy.

391 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 5:57:46am

re: #199 Petero1818

Look I can't help you if you don't see that Obama, through his support of the occupy movement, is an accessory to child endangerment.///

That's alright. Most republicans, with their support of radical fundie christians, are accessory to rape, murder, and worse to children.

392 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:01:05am

re: #390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I can't find what the temperature was here last year.

I think that it was cold as hell and snowy.

Probably, considering that was the case in most areas of the US last year. Certainly it was true here, where we had a few nights of -40 wind chill and our December Surprise blizzard.

393 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:04:18am

re: #392 thedopefishlives

I just found a very kind website that offered to tell me what the weather was last year for only $14.95.

394 The Survilist  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:04:22am

Morning Lizards. 10 degrees and clear here in Twinkie Flats.

This is normal for this time of year, but the preceading two weeks the temps were abnormally high (high 40's to mid 50's)

395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:06:04am

re: #394 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards. 10 degrees and clear here in Twinkie Flats.

Speaking of twinkies... the company that makes "Wonderbread" and "Twinkies" filed for bankruptcy.

396 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:07:17am

re: #394 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards. 10 degrees and clear here in Twinkie Flats.

This is normal for this time of year, but the preceding two weeks the temps were abnormally high (high 40's to mid 50's)

Is Twinkie Flats swampy on both ends and snowy and white in the middle?

And are they going to rename it now that Hostess Bakeries has apparently declared bankruptcy?
:)

397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:10:32am

re: #396 oaktree

I haven't eaten a Twinkie/HoHo/ or slice of Wonderbread since the Carter Administration.

How in the hell are they still in business?

398 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:11:21am

re: #233 NJDhockeyfan

{snip}

Now we have Occupy AIPAC protesters with some real nasty people involved in it.

What have they blown up and who have they shot? Or are those options only valid for right-wing militia and the religious loons?

399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:12:52am

One out of three Americans weighs as much as the other two.
-Richard Jeni

400 The Survilist  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:13:45am

re: #395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw that. $1.43 billion in debt. With the largest chunk ($944.2 million) owed to the pension fund.

401 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:15:48am

re: #397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I haven't eaten a Twinkie/HoHo/ or slice of Wonderbread since the Carter Administration.

How in the hell are they still in business?

Advertising.

I recall a few years back seeing a PBS program that included interviews with those running a food bank in a city. They were getting donations of good loaves of whole-wheat bread, that no one wanted since they instead wanted the white bread that they'd been raised on.

402 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:17:11am

re: #399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

One out of three Americans weighs as much as the other two.
-Richard Jeni

One out of four people in the world is Chinese, which means that out of my four siblings, one of them must be Chinese. It might be my brother John. Or my sister Carrie. Or my other sister Lynn. Or my brother Wei Hu. But I really think it's John.

403 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:17:21am

re: #398 RayFerd

What have they blown up and who have they shot? Or are those options only valid for right-wing militia and the religious loons?

Now, now, don't forget the talking point that Occupy is inherently Ebil because they dare to talk about 1% vs 99% and other problems with capitalism.

404 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:20:41am

re: #402 thedopefishlives

Heard an Asian comedian once (I think he was Korean) who said that a woman was claiming that he was the father of her child.

Backing up her claim, she said, "When this child comes out with your color skin, slanted eyes and black hair..."

He said, "Now what a damn minute Shei Wee...."

405 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:26:08am

Morning Honcos.

406 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:30:16am

I hate being away because I didn't get to mention douchebags like this.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:33:07am

re: #406 Cannadian Club Akbar

You guys have more than your share.

408 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:35:00am

re: #406 Cannadian Club Akbar
At least there is this:

But his extremist views and rhetoric put him on the outs with local Muslim leaders. He was banished from two Tampa Bay area mosques.

409 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:35:42am

re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You guys have more than your share.

I know. The local head of CAIR actually did an interview on the radio bringing up the point that the guy could have been set up. He later called back an said the authorities did nothing wrong. Good to hear.

410 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:36:14am

re: #408 Sergey Romanov

Too bad that's not going to stop Geller et al. from screaming their violent ant-Muslim rhetoric all over again. I bet she must've passed out from the thrill of it when she saw the headline for his arrest.

411 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:36:43am

re: #410 thedopefishlives

Those were my thoughts.

412 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:37:15am

re: #410 thedopefishlives

I bet she shrieked happily for a while.

413 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:37:43am

re: #412 Sergey Romanov

I bet she shrieked happily for a while.

Until she ran out of Vodka.:)

414 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:38:52am

re: #412 Sergey Romanov

I bet she shrieked happily for a while.

Actually, considering that this story is a day old or so, shouldn't we have heard something from her by now?

415 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:40:39am

re: #406 Cannadian Club Akbar

I hate being away because I didn't get to mention douchebags like this.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

Afwiw, Ybor is a very compact place with a ton of street traffic (on foot). This guy wasn't fucking around.

416 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:44:18am

Judge blocks Barbour's 11th-hour pardons

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

417 The Survilist  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:48:13am

re: #414 thedopefishlives

Probably haven't heard anything (yet) because of this.

"When his arrest was announced Monday in Tampa, authorities said the local Muslim community helped make the case."

Kinda blows her and the gnomes "There are no peaceful Muslims" shit out of the water.

418 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:48:34am

re: #417 Bubblehead II

Probably haven't heard anything (yet) because of this.

"When his arrest was announced Monday in Tampa, authorities said the local Muslim community helped make the case."

Kinda blows her and the gnomes "There are no peaceful Muslims" shit out of the water.

Believe me, that doesn't stop them at all.

419 darthstar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:52:57am

Sarah Palin asking Romney for his tax returns? As if this campaign wasn't weird enough already...and she wants him to prove he created 100,000 jobs when he was at Bain...Romney, the job cremator...

Youtube Video
420 The Survilist  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:55:24am

re: #418 thedopefishlives

True. I just got back from her site and she does have a post up about this. One in which she has conveniently left out any mention of the local Muslim Community help in stopping this asshole.

Edited for a typo

421 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:55:48am

Ya know, I love the liberrie, but I can't access my FB, 2 separate email accounts and about 4 job web sites. WTF? But, odd, I can if I use their computers.

422 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 6:56:29am

re: #420 Bubblehead II

True. I just got back from her site and she does have a post up about this. One in which she has conveniently left out any mention of the local Muslim Communities help in stopping this asshole.

Yeah, truth is no obstacle to a completely deranged lunatic like the shrieking harpy.

423 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:00:23am

re: #422 thedopefishlives

Yeah, truth is no obstacle to a completely deranged lunatic like the shrieking harpy.

Truth is no obstacle unless it trips you while getting its boots on.

;)

424 darthstar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:05:54am

Mornin' everyone...drive-by g'day before doing all the other crap I have ahead of me...see you later.

425 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:09:01am

Alrighty. If I don't step away from this stoopid computer, I'm gonna fucking shoot it. (with a spitball). Good time for a smoke. (the bars downtown don't open for another hour) :)

426 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:09:18am

re: #421 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ya know, I love the liberrie, but I can't access my FB, 2 separate email accounts and about 4 job web sites. WTF? But, odd, I can if I use their computers.

In Florida,, you don't own the liberrie, the liberrie owns you

And anyway,,,you're not missing anything
, who would Facebook/ E-Mail you?

427 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:12:14am

Geller's comment section is such a snake pit that for a second there I even sympathized with her:

Haha. Your man Santorum finished so far behind that I don't even know what place he came in. It' irrelevant too -) Looks like paul is catching on!. He came in a strong second...You must be so angry, you fake jew, geller.

Posted by: josh | Tuesday, January 10, 2012 at 10:03 PM

428 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:13:11am

re: #397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I haven't eaten a Twinkie/HoHo/ or slice of Wonderbread since the Carter Administration.

How in the hell are they still in business?

Been to southern and/or western county fair lately?
They sell enough Deep fried Twinkies during the season to keep the company in business for the year!!

430 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:21:45am

Oooh, brainy-bleachy picture:

[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]

431 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:25:05am

re: #430 Sergey Romanov

Oooh, brainy-bleachy picture:

[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]

Seriously, was that REALLY necessary?

432 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:26:24am

re: #431 thedopefishlives

Seriously, was that REALLY necessary?

Sometimes you gotta know when NOT to click.

433 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:28:19am

re: #429 Bubblehead II

Hey KT!

A frog species that appears to be the world's smallest has been discovered in Papua New Guinea by a US-based team.

Problem is,,, it will take at least four dozen of them to make a decent meal

434 iossarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:28:47am

re: #430 Sergey Romanov

Oooh, brainy-bleachy picture:

[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]

I don't know, I think they're both OK to look at.

It's a shame they're mental though.

435 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:28:49am

re: #431 thedopefishlives

Seriously, was that REALLY necessary?

I'M BLIND!

436 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:30:44am

re: #434 iossarian

I don't know, I think they're both OK to look at.

It's a shame they're mental though.

You know, I hear people say that Pam is hot all the time. I honestly don't see it. She looks like a two-bit floozy.

437 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:31:58am

re: #436 thedopefishlives

You know, I hear people say that Pam is hot all the time. I honestly don't see it. She looks like a two-bit floozy.

I've known my share of "hot" floozies in my time!!

just sayin'!

438 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:33:01am

re: #437 sattv4u2

I've known my share of "hot" floozies in my time!!

just sayin'!

Whoa!
Are you sure you want to admit that?

439 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:33:36am

re: #437 sattv4u2

I've known my share of "hot" floozies in my time!!

just sayin'!

re: #438 reine.de.tout

Whoa!
Are you sure you want to admit that?

Admit what??

440 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:33:38am

Anonymous targets Israel by publishing SCADA log-in details

SCADA, or supervisory control and data acquisition systems are a vital part of the industrial control systems found in manufacturing, power generation and other facilities. They were targeted famously by the Stuxnet worm which is alleged to have been created by Israel and the US in a bid to disrupt Iran's nuclear programme.
...
"Today is #fuckisrael day. Let us all take one moment of our day to showcase our [sic] damaging to human rights the Govt. of Israel really is," noted the first.

441 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:33:49am

re: #436 thedopefishlives

You know, I hear people say that Pam is hot all the time. I honestly don't see it. She looks like a two-bit floozy.

Yeah, I could never get into the bony look myself, I find myself with this barely-controllable urge to shove a ham sandwich in her mouth and force her to eat it.

442 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:35:17am

re: #434 iossarian

Whatever levels of attractiveness you might find about them physically dissipate once you consider their crazy quotient.

See also the Vicki Mendoza quotient (hot/crazy quotient). Ideally, you want the person to be above the diagonal line, indicating that they are hotter than they are crazy.

443 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:38:57am

re: #441 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, I could never get into the bony look myself, I find myself with this barely-controllable urge to shove a ham sandwich in her mouth and force her to eat it.

I know physical attractiveness is subjective and all, but I'm with you on this. The Mrs. Fish is not a size 0 stick figure, and when she complains about it, I tell her that I just plain wouldn't like her as much if she was. I like my women like I like my pork ribs: There's gotta be some meat on dem bones.

444 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:39:32am

re: #434 iossarian

I don't know, I think they're both OK to look at.

*eyes iossarian suspiciously*

/

445 Gus  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:44:57am

re: #440 Killgore Trout

Anonymous targets Israel by publishing SCADA log-in details

One of the people mentioned there, @AnonymouSabu. Here's his avatar.

Image: shirt01.gif

Things are getting really strange and there doesn't seem to be any real vocal concern by US government officials.

446 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:45:53am

re: #445 Gus 802

One of the people mentioned there, @AnonymouSabu. Here's his avatar.

Image: shirt01.gif

Things are getting really strange and there doesn't seem to be any real vocal concern by US government officials.

The US government isn't really set up to take on things like Anonymous. It hasn't even been established that they've done anything criminally wrong.

447 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:49:17am

re: #446 thedopefishlives

The US government isn't really set up to take on things like Anonymous. It hasn't even been established that they've done anything criminally wrong.

Nothing overtly illegal yet, which is what makes me more than a little nervous.

448 iossarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:50:11am

re: #436 thedopefishlives

You know, I hear people say that Pam is hot all the time. I honestly don't see it. She looks like a two-bit floozy.

I'm not putting her up there as some kind of Aphrodite of the right. But she's not exactly ugly either.

All I was saying was that, if you didn't know who they were, your first reaction would probably not be: "brain bleach". The fixed grins might be a bit off-putting but other than that they're OK.

449 iossarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:50:53am

re: #441 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, I could never get into the bony look myself, I find myself with this barely-controllable urge to shove a ham sandwich in her mouth and force her to eat it.

KINKY

450 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:51:19am

re: #445 Gus 802

One of the people mentioned there, @AnonymouSabu. Here's his avatar.

Image: shirt01.gif

Things are getting really strange and there doesn't seem to be any real vocal concern by US government officials.

It's strange. When Anon started messing with banks and Paypal I thought the Feds would surely start to crack down on Anon. Since then they've attempted attacks on stock exchanges, power plants and utilities. Still no major arrests. I wonder what's going on.

451 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:51:24am

re: #448 iossarian

I'm not putting her up there as some kind of Aphrodite of the right. But she's not exactly ugly either.

All I was saying was that, if you didn't know who they were, your first reaction would probably not be: "brain bleach". The fixed grins might be a bit off-putting but other than that they're OK.

Eh, I would disagree. But again, it's all subjective.

452 KronoGhazi  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:54:17am

re: #359 Shropshire_Slasher

I don't know what all the outrage of the outrage is all about? In the original article, all of this information about an afternoon Halloween party with the children is present.
[Link: www.nypost.com...]

If you are going to be a shill for the Obama's, fine, I will agree to disagree.

If you don't know what the 'outrage of the outrage' is about you haven't been reading. Not to mention it's childish antagonism to describe mockery of the real outrage (NY Post article about a WH party in a recession) as outrage.

And this has nothing to do with shilling for the Obamas. You're shilling for the Outrage Machine.

453 Gus  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:55:34am

re: #450 Killgore Trout

It's strange. When Anon started messing with banks and Paypal I thought the Feds would surely start to crack down on Anon. Since then they've attempted attacks on stick exchanges, power plants and utilities. Still no major arrests. I wonder what's going on.

I have my opinion, or call it a gut feeling, but it's probably best that I don't mention them here.

454 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 7:56:55am

re: #450 Killgore Trout

It's strange. When Anon started messing with banks and Paypal I thought the Feds would surely start to crack down on Anon. Since then they've attempted attacks on stock exchanges, power plants and utilities. Still no major arrests. I wonder what's going on.

Are they hard to find or are the Feds not too interested in arresting them?

455 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:02:00am

re: #450 Killgore Trout

It's strange. When Anon started messing with banks and Paypal I thought the Feds would surely start to crack down on Anon. Since then they've attempted attacks on stick exchanges, power plants and utilities. Still no major arrests. I wonder what's going on.

I trust (hope) that there is an FBI team gathering everything they can and then take down the entire "organization" in one fell swoop.

Lets say they knew who/ where one or two of them are. If they (the FBI) moved in now all the others (Anon) would burrow in deeper

456 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:03:57am

Crap! I decided to wash the windows... sun was shining and as I opened the blinds; the dust storm was like what happened in Phoenix last summer.

I vacuumed the air, if you can believe that. Stood with the hose watching the particles moving toward the nozzle in the sunlight...

457 KronoGhazi  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:04:44am

re: #442 lawhawk

Whatever levels of attractiveness you might find about them physically dissipate once you consider their crazy quotient.

See also the Vicki Mendoza quotient (hot/crazy quotient). Ideally, you want the person to be above the diagonal line, indicating that they are hotter than they are crazy.

Perfect response. They're both well below that line. If I knew nothing about either of them I'd find some attractiveness to them, but the crazy affects the perception of beauty.

458 Gus  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:05:47am

re: #450 Killgore Trout

It's strange. When Anon started messing with banks and Paypal I thought the Feds would surely start to crack down on Anon. Since then they've attempted attacks on stick exchanges, power plants and utilities. Still no major arrests. I wonder what's going on.

In other news. The latest trend with the far-left and crypto-libertarians is to blame either the US or Israel for assassinating that nuclear "scientist" in Iran. Even ABL has noticed:

@AngryBlackLady Imani ABL
Wait, everyone is essentially assuming that Israel and the US are in cahoots murdering Iranian scientists? That’s the new thing? #p2 #TFY

459 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:07:25am

re: #454 NJDhockeyfan

Are they hard to find or are the Feds not too interested in arresting them?

I would think the Feds are interested. Even the attacks on banks and credit card fraud alone are enough to attract the attention of the Feds. The investigations might be more complicated because of the technology. I have no idea what warrants are needed to monitor an IP address or whatever. Maybe Anon is clever enough to cover its tracks but I sort of doubt it. I would suspect Anon is probably pretty infiltrated by the Feds. I would have thought there'd be a crackdown by now but I don't really know how this stuff works.

460 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:09:24am

re: #456 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Crap! I decided to wash the windows... sun was shining and as I opened the blinds; the dust storm was like what happened in Phoenix last summer.

I vacuumed the air, if you can believe that. Stood with the hose watching the particles moving toward the nozzle in the sunlight...

Haboob thread!

461 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:13:35am

re: #459 Killgore Trout

I would think the Feds are interested. Even the attacks on banks and credit card fraud alone are enough to attract the attention of the Feds. The investigations might be more complicated because of the technology. I have no idea what warrants are needed to monitor an IP address or whatever. Maybe Anon is clever enough to cover its tracks but I sort of doubt it. I would suspect Anon is probably pretty infiltrated by the Feds. I would have thought there'd be a crackdown by now but I don't really know how this stuff works.

Or an Anon member's message to others that he'll be off-line for a while to play Skyrim is a false flag while he has a black bag put over his head and he is whisked off to the secret interrogation center.
//

462 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:14:25am

Morning all!

Thar be snow! in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland. It's wet heavy snow tho. Not the fun kind.

How are you-all?

463 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:21:58am

re: #450 Killgore Trout

It's strange. When Anon started messing with banks and Paypal I thought the Feds would surely start to crack down on Anon. Since then they've attempted attacks on stock exchanges, power plants and utilities. Still no major arrests. I wonder what's going on.

They're anon(ymous)? Mebbe they don't know who to arrest.

464 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:25:07am

re: #459 Killgore Trout

I would think the Feds are interested. Even the attacks on banks and credit card fraud alone are enough to attract the attention of the Feds. The investigations might be more complicated because of the technology. I have no idea what warrants are needed to monitor an IP address or whatever. Maybe Anon is clever enough to cover its tracks but I sort of doubt it. I would suspect Anon is probably pretty infiltrated by the Feds. I would have thought there'd be a crackdown by now but I don't really know how this stuff works.

Well they cancelled an attack on the drug cartels in Mexico because of fear of relaliation. If the Drug cartels can find them why can the Feds?

465 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:25:22am

Oh, goodie. There are political ads playing on my radio!! There is no escape!!!

466 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:26:22am

re: #463 reine.de.tout

They're anon(ymous)? Mebbe they don't know who to arrest.

That's a possibility but I think it's unlikely. Back when they were attacking paypal there were press reports naming the leadership of Anon which consisted of about a dozen people. Many of them, like Barret Brown, were pretty open about their role.

467 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:30:06am

We're all gonna die update:
We're all gonna die!!!
[Link: www.usnews.com...]

468 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:30:35am

Katy Perry’s Dad Apologizes for Anti-Semitic Comments During Sermon

Katy Perry’s preacher father has issued a public apology for an anti-Semitic rant he made last week while preaching at an Ohio church.

According to multiple reports, Reverend Keith Hudson, an evangelical minister, drew ire from the Simon Wiesenthal Center (SWC) and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) when he told the congregation of the Church on the Rise in Westlake, Ohio:

“You know how to make the Jew jealous? Have some money, honey. You go to L.A. and they own all the Rolex and diamond places. Walk down a part of L.A. where they live and it is so rich it smells. You ever smell rich? They are all Jews, hallelujah! Amen.”

Ugh...what a douchebag.

469 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:30:40am

re: #463 reine.de.tout

Or they're busy investigating the matter but don't want to make announcements until they've rolled up a bunch of them (probably coordinating with multiple countries since some may be overseas from the US). Why tip 'em off when you don't need to. Some of these attack have to have left markers about how they were conducted and other identifying information that can be used to track the culprits back to their sources. It takes time to trace.

470 b_snark  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:32:03am

re: #434 iossarian

I don't know, I think they're both OK to look at.

It's a shame they're mental though.

Your glasses probably need cleaning.

471 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:33:37am

re: #469 lawhawk

They arrested 16 of 'em awhile back. A lot of internet stuff is hard to build a case for, because the court's understanding of electronic evidence is a little scattershot.

472 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:33:42am

re: #459 Killgore Trout

I would have thought there'd be a crackdown by now but I don't really know how this stuff works.

A significant part of IT-related security is obfuscation. The Feds telegraphing what they're doing, where they're looking, or who they may already have under surveillance (or even arrest) would be stupid. As sattv4u2 pointed out, all that would do is help others avoid detection.

And let's not forget that this is what the internet looks like. There's a LOT of ground to cover, and they're basically chasing a bunch of shape-shifting phantoms.

473 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:35:00am

re: #427 Sergey Romanov

Geller's comment section is such a snake pit that for a second there I even sympathized with her:

Everything about her is just depressing, including people's visceral, violent responses to her looks.

Such a self-loathing conservative bigot. I don't feel bad for self-loathing conservative bigots, especially ones that vile, but the effects are pretty clearly ravaging her.

474 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:35:27am

re: #472 CuriousLurker

A significant part of IT-related security is obfuscation. The Feds telegraphing what they're doing, where they're looking, or who they may already have under surveillance (or even arrest) would be stupid. As sattv4u2 pointed out, all that would do is help others avoid detection.

And let's not forget that this is what the internet looks like. There's a LOT of ground to cover, and they're basically chasing a bunch of shape-shifting phantoms.

And they keep getting license and registration addresses that lead them to Wrigley Field.
/

475 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:35:42am

re: #465 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oh, goodie. There are political ads playing on my radio!! There is no escape!!!

Public Radio. No ads. A few PSAs & some begging for contributions but that's far easier to take.

476 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:36:00am

re: #467 Cannadian Club Akbar

We're all gonna die update:
We're all gonna die!!!
[Link: www.usnews.com...]

Swine flu? How about the bird flu?

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

477 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:36:04am

re: #440 Killgore Trout

Anonymous targets Israel by publishing SCADA log-in details

""Today is #fuckisrael day"

Yeah well, fuck them.

Assholes.

478 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:37:11am

re: #458 Gus 802

In other news. The latest trend with the far-left and crypto-libertarians is to blame either the US or Israel for assassinating that nuclear "scientist" in Iran. Even ABL has noticed:

Oh, she's pretty up on that. I hope she speaks out more on it.

479 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:38:28am

re: #476 NJDhockeyfan

Swine flu? How about the bird flu?

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I predict a hundred trillion people are gonna die.
/

480 Gus  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:40:02am

Moonbats to the left of me wingnuts to the right here I am...

//

481 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:40:03am

re: #475 wlewisiii

Public Radio. No ads. A few PSAs & some begging for contributions but that's far easier to take.

I would listen to public radio but I already know how to make carrot cake.
///(snl skit, remember?)

482 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:43:13am

re: #473 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Everything about her is just depressing, including people's visceral, violent responses to her looks.

Such a self-loathing conservative bigot. I don't feel bad for self-loathing conservative bigots, especially ones that vile, but the effects are pretty clearly ravaging her.

She's a nut!
-Barney Fife

483 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:45:51am

re: #472 CuriousLurker

A significant part of IT-related security is obfuscation. The Feds telegraphing what they're doing, where they're looking, or who they may already have under surveillance (or even arrest) would be stupid. As sattv4u2 pointed out, all that would do is help others avoid detection.

And let's not forget that this is what the internet looks like. There's a LOT of ground to cover, and they're basically chasing a bunch of shape-shifting phantoms.

Internet is pretty!

484 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:46:09am

Oh, some good news. I got a letter saying I never received a check from a job I had in...January 2010. They're sending it. $173 to the good.:)

485 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:46:19am

re: #483 ggt

Internet is pretty!

I'll have two!

486 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:46:57am

re: #484 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oh, some good news. I got a letter saying I never received a check from a job I had in...January 2010. They're sending it. $173 to the good.:)

WOOT!

487 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:47:09am

re: #484 Cannadian Club Akbar

Better late than never... nice going! But what about the interest (I know, pennies, but it's still the principle).

488 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:47:10am

re: #474 oaktree

And they keep getting license and registration addresses that lead them to Wrigley Field.
/

Heh, indeed.

I actually like AT&T's 2007 internet map (PDF at the source link) as it allows you to zoom in and get a better idea of the complexity involved. It's mind boggling. Amazing that it even works at all. O_o

489 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:47:22am

re: #486 ggt

WOOT!

A new backpack and new shoes!!!

490 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:47:46am

re: #488 CuriousLurker

Heh, indeed.

I actually like AT&T's 2007 internet map (PDF at the source link) as it allows you to zoom in and get a better idea of the complexity involved. It's mind boggling. Amazing that it even works at all. O_o

Other picture is prettier.

491 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:47:58am

re: #483 ggt

Internet is pretty!

It is, isn't it? :)

492 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:48:01am

re: #489 Cannadian Club Akbar

A new backpack and new shoes!!!

SHOES!!!!!!!

493 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:48:25am

re: #492 ggt

SHOES!!!

Timberland shoes!!!

494 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:48:29am

re: #490 ggt

Other picture is prettier.

I agree.

495 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:49:00am

re: #493 Cannadian Club Akbar

Timberland shoes!!!

You'll need new socks too!

496 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:49:26am

re: #487 lawhawk

Better late than never... nice going!

What is sad is the fact that I didn't know I had money coming to me.

497 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:50:17am

re: #484 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oh, some good news. I got a letter saying I never received a check from a job I had in...January 2010. They're sending it. $173 to the good.:)

This might sound like a man-crush and that I hyper focus on you...

But I seem to remember you saying something once about a job that you had for a short time and the assholes probably wouldn't pay you.

498 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:51:31am

re: #493 Cannadian Club Akbar

Timberland shoes!!!

Don't get "Jordans". You'll get cut.

499 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 8:52:31am

re: #497 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This might sound like a man-crush and that I hyper focus on you...

But I seem to remember you saying something once about a job that you had for a short time and the assholes probably wouldn't pay you.

Those people paid me but they only hired me for 2 weeks running up until Thanksgiving. I hate them. I'm working 6 days a week at a new place now but I'm only getting 24 hours a week. I'm still throwing out resumes, though.

500 Flounder  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:02:00am

re: #484 Cannadian Club Akbar
I hope you spend it on wine and women and the rest of it foolishly.

501 The Survilist  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:02:31am

Charles, are links to Cryptomedotorg allowed?

They look like a wikileaks type of site.

502 Gus  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:04:56am

re: #501 Bubblehead II

Charles, are links to Cryptomedotorg allowed?

They look like a wikileaks type of site.

This might answer your question.

503 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:05:15am

Alrighty. Gonna do some sock hunting and spend the rest of the day reading this:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
I freaking work harder on my day off than I do at work. Not today.
See y'all tomorrow.:)

504 The Survilist  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:06:41am

re: #502 Gus 802

Thanks. I found something interesting that I wanted to share, but didn't want to post an unacceptable link.

505 Gus  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:07:19am

re: #504 Bubblehead II

Thanks. I found something interesting that I wanted to share, but didn't want to post an unacceptable link.

Knock yourself out. I'm about ready to split here in a bit. Think I need a day off from the internet hysteria.

507 Gus  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:10:06am

Meh.

508 KronoGhazi  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:12:18am

Keep it quiet. I have to redo some certs online. Commencing 'Introduction to Networks.'

This should be fun!

509 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:14:15am

re: #508 BigPapa

Keep it quiet. I have to redo some certs online. Commencing 'Introduction to Newtorks.'

This should be fun!

Are Newt Orks some new WH40K variant group? Specializing in sonic attacks and throwing tantrums?

510 KronoGhazi  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:15:03am

re: #509 oaktree

Are Newt Orks some new WH40K variant group? Specializing in sonic attacks and throwing tantrums?

Thanks Pencil!

511 The Survilist  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:22:49am

Dang. Curt beat me to it. But I added a link that you Lizards might find interesting.

512 iossarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:24:10am

re: #506 ProLifeLiberal

I just saw this on Wikipedia:

Israel's Supreme Court has upheld a law banning Palestinians who marry Israelis from gaining Israeli citizenship.

Just a gigantic messed-up situation.

513 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:33:37am

re: #512 iossarian

Reason why I am neutral in the 3-way kerfuffle occurring now.

514 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:40:04am

Bills paid, ledger filled-in.

Being grown-up isn't as hard as it is boring with repetitive, but necessary busy work.

515 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:41:41am

re: #514 ggt

Bills paid, ledger filled-in.

Being grown-up isn't as hard as it is boring with repetitive, but necessary busy work.

It also means being the final resting point of responsibility, as in when there is a horrible mess to clean up, and someone has to do it. You stand there are realize that no, there are no adults to come and save you, you are the adult.

516 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:43:29am

I thought this was interesting (from my fb)

517 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:43:46am

re: #515 EmmmieG

It also means being the final resting point of responsibility, as in when there is a horrible mess to clean up, and someone has to do it. You stand there are realize that no, there are no adults to come and save you, you are the adult.

Yep

518 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:45:06am

re: #515 EmmmieG

It also means being the final resting point of responsibility, as in when there is a horrible mess to clean up, and someone has to do it. You stand there are realize that no, there are no adults to come and save you, you are the adult.

And growl under your breath when you seeing other "adults" dodging it.

519 The Survilist  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:46:51am

Looks like O'Keefe is starting to draw some very unwanted attention.

AG Investigating Undercover Filming at Nashua Polls

ht Gawker Tips Forum

520 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:51:12am

re: #518 oaktree

And growl under your breath when you seeing other "adults" dodging it.

wimps.

I have a hard time respecting a person who can't at least "step up to the plate". You can fall or slide off or miss the ball, but you can, at least, step-up.

521 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:54:18am

re: #515 EmmmieG

I only enjoyed my first Thanksgiving being moved to the growed up table.

I still look longingly at the kid's table.

522 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:55:18am

re: #516 ggt

I thought this was interesting (from my fb)

Beautiful. (And another chance to join the SDS.)

523 KronoGhazi  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:58:31am

re: #513 ProLifeLiberal

Reason why I am neutral in the 3-way kerfuffle occurring now.

Where doth kerfuffle?

524 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:00:24am

re: #515 EmmmieG

People start calling me immature the moment they realize that I'm having more fun than they are.

525 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:00:51am

re: #523 BigPapa

Where doth kerfuffle?

Don't look. It's a three-way.

526 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:06:25am

re: #525 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't look. It's a three-way.

TMI!

527 albusteve  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:07:09am

Who's killing Iranian nuclear scientists?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

528 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:07:49am

re: #524 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

People start calling me immature the moment they realize that I'm having more fun than they are.

Have all the fun you want--just don't run away when there's work do to, and everyone's good.

529 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:08:06am

re: #524 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

People start calling me immature the moment they realize that I'm having more fun than they are.

People get emotionally caught-up in all kinds of BS. I akin it to High School and needing to know where one is the group hierarchy. I don't get it, I never have, even in high school.

I gave-up trying to figure it out a long time ago.

530 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:08:44am

I took my Mom to Urgent Care yesterday (she is fine). Me, OTOH, I think I picked-up a bug. Have the chills.

Am going back to bed.

531 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:08:50am

re: #529 ggt

People get emotionally caught-up in all kinds of BS. I akin it to High School and needing to know where one is the group hierarchy. I don't get it, I never have, even in high school.

I gave-up trying to figure it out a long time ago.

I actually saw a study that said the kid who does the best in life is the one that is not in a group, but has friends in all the groups.

532 Sionainn  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:12:07am

re: #516 ggt

I thought this was interesting (from my fb)

I thought that was great, too, and decided to find the context. I ended up on a page with a whole bunch of Reagan quotes. As I was reading through them, that particular quote didn't seem to mesh with all the other shit I was reading. This is what that site says is the whole quote:

"We establish no religion in this country, nor will we ever. We command no worship. We mandate no belief. But we poison our society when we remove its theological underpinnings. We court corruption when we leave it bereft of belief. All are free to believe or not believe; all are free to practice a faith or not. But those who believe must be free to speak of and act on their belief, to apply moral teaching to public questions. (President RONALD WILSON REAGAN)

Kind of took the wind out of my sails.

533 abolitionist  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:13:45am

re: #445 Gus 802

Re: Anonymous targets Israel by publishing SCADA log-in details

One of the people mentioned there, @AnonymouSabu. Here's his avatar.

Image: shirt01.gif

Things are getting really strange and there doesn't seem to be any real vocal concern by US government officials.

An exception:
Inouye: Attack On Israel An Attack On U.S.

Visiting Israel this week, U.S. Sen. Dan Inouye is warning that, should Iran attack that nation, “our position is that if you attack Israel, you are attacking the United States.”

Excerpt:

Inouye, introduced to the (high school) students by former AIPAC president Robert Asher as the best friend Israel has in Congress, said he discussed the Iranian threat in a meeting earlier in the day with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu.

re: #446 thedopefishlives

I read a day or so ago that some of the "disclosures" by anonymous included personal info (email addr's) and passwords (and some credit info) for large numbers of US servicemen, government officials, and others in "sensitive" positions. And in Britain, too. (Looking for links..)

534 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:14:18am

re: #527 albusteve

There is a pretty long list of folks who would.

535 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:17:26am

re: #506 ProLifeLiberal

I just saw this on Wikipedia:

Israel's Supreme Court has upheld a law banning Palestinians who marry Israelis from gaining Israeli citizenship.

Do Palestinians who marry Jordanians get automatic Jordanian citizenship?
Do Palestinians who marry Lebanese get automatic Lebanese citizenship?
Do Palestinians who marry Egyptians get automatic Egyptian citizenship?
Do Palestinians who marry Syrians get automatic Syrian citizenship?

I could go on, but these countries have many more restrictive laws against Palestinians than Israel does, and Palestinians have never threatened to wipe them off the map.

536 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:20:30am

re: #535 Alouette

Wait, is this banning automatic citizenship, or just any access to citizenship?

537 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:22:01am

re: #535 Alouette

Do Palestinians who marry Jordanians get automatic Jordanian citizenship?
Do Palestinians who marry Lebanese get automatic Lebanese citizenship?
Do Palestinians who marry Egyptians get automatic Egyptian citizenship?
Do Palestinians who marry Syrians get automatic Syrian citizenship?

I could go on, but these countries have many more restrictive laws against Palestinians than Israel does, and Palestinians have never threatened to wipe them off the map.

The Swiss are very strict with citizenship.

538 justaminute  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:22:18am

re: #535 Alouette

Do Palestinians who marry Jordanians get automatic Jordanian citizenship?
Do Palestinians who marry Lebanese get automatic Lebanese citizenship?
Do Palestinians who marry Egyptians get automatic Egyptian citizenship?
Do Palestinians who marry Syrians get automatic Syrian citizenship?

I could go on, but these countries have many more restrictive laws against Palestinians than Israel does, and Palestinians have never threatened to wipe them off the map.

I believe you added the word "automatic" to the citizenship clause. But yes, you do get citizenship if you marry a Jordanian. In fact, you can be their queen.

539 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:23:49am

re: #536 Obdicut

Wait, is this banning automatic citizenship, or just any access to citizenship?

Details are here.

540 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:24:59am

re: #538 justaminute

I believe you added the word "automatic" to the citizenship clause. But yes, you do get citizenship if you marry a Jordanian. In fact, you can be their queen.

What if you don't marry the King, but just some 99%er?

541 abolitionist  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:26:00am

Anonymous strikes again: Hackers publish email addresses and passwords of 860,000 clients of shadowy U.S. security firm

Anonymous published over 860,000 email addresses and passwords of Stratfor clients

Article by: Nancy Clayson

The loose-knit Anonymous movement, who stole thousands of credit card numbers from U.S. security firm Stratfor, has now published the email addresses of more than 860,000 of its clients.

Hackers released the data – which included information on former U.S. Vice President Dan Quayle and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger – online.

The lists of emails included scrambled details of their passwords – which experts said could be cracked within a matter of seconds [snip]

Both stories are from 02 jan 2012.

542 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:26:35am

re: #539 Alouette

A 2002 temporary order excluded Palestinian spouses from these processes and barred them from becoming Israeli citizens.

Well, that's not good. Seems like a panicky stopgap.

543 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:28:46am

re: #542 Obdicut

Well, that's not good. Seems like a panicky stopgap.

I guess they are afraid of matrimonial swarms.

544 justaminute  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:29:08am

re: #540 Alouette

What if you don't marry the King, but just some 99%er?

It's hard to think of any country that ban's a citizen's spouse from citizenship. I'm quite certain that if it was attempted in the US it would be overturned. Israel is supposed to be a democracy like the US, if I'm not mistaken?

545 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:32:02am

re: #544 justaminute

It's hard to think of any country that ban's a citizen's spouse from citizenship. I'm quite certain that if it was attempted in the US it would be overturned. Israel is supposed to be a democracy like the US, if I'm not mistaken?

Every country in the world is allowed to set its own standards for obtaining citizenship. Israel does not have the same laws as the U.S.

546 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:32:30am

re: #543 Alouette

I guess they are afraid of matrimonial swarms.

A blanket prohibition is a pretty silly way to go about doing that. It's very close to collective punishment. The citizenship isn't granted automatically, so they could still review each case. I don't see what they gain by saying it's not available for any Palestinian married to an Israeli, no matter what.

What if that Palestinian runs an NGO promoting Israeli-Palestinian cooperation? Wouldn't he/she make a good Israeli citizen?

547 iossarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:32:34am

re: #537 EmmmieG

The Swiss are very strict with citizenship.

I've lived in Switzerland. It's mostly the same as other countries, though they do have slightly tougher requirements for qualification through continued residency (a holdover from the even-more-unpleasant past of temporary worker residency rules).

Citizenship through marriage is fairly straightforward:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

548 justaminute  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:33:02am

re: #545 Alouette

Every country in the world is allowed to set its own standards for obtaining citizenship. Israel does not have the same laws as the U.S.

Nice to know.

549 blueraven  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:34:30am

re: #527 albusteve

Who's killing Iranian nuclear scientists?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I hope to hell the US is not involved with that. If it is Israel, well they have to do what they have to do, I guess. They are is a much more dangerous situation.
I just wish whoever is assassinating these scientist, would kidnap them instead. Bombing and shooting while injuring family members is way too much like the tactics of the enemy we fight.

550 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:34:46am

re: #546 Obdicut

A blanket prohibition is a pretty silly way to go about doing that. It's very close to collective punishment. The citizenship isn't granted automatically, so they could still review each case. I don't see what they gain by saying it's not available for any Palestinian married to an Israeli, no matter what.

What if that Palestinian runs an NGO promoting Israeli-Palestinian cooperation? Wouldn't he/she make a good Israeli citizen?

Citizenship applications should be decided on a case by case basis, with the option to reject someone who is quite admittedly hostile, but accept someone who in good faith would be a good citizen.

551 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:35:42am

re: #550 Alouette

Citizenship applications should be decided on a case by case basis, with the option to reject someone who is quite admittedly hostile, but accept someone who in good faith would be a good citizen.

I agree.

So did nearly half the court deciding on it-- it was a divided opinion.

552 iossarian  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:39:38am

re: #550 Alouette

Citizenship applications should be decided on a case by case basis, with the option to reject someone who is quite admittedly hostile, but accept someone who in good faith would be a good citizen.

This is quite right, but it's evidently not what the law in question is about. Every country on earth presumably has a "poses no threat" clause written into its citizenship requirements.

553 justaminute  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:40:22am

re: #549 blueraven

I hope to hell the US is not involved with that. If it is Israel, well they have to do what they have to do, I guess. They are is a much more dangerous situation.
I just wish whoever is assassinating these scientist, would kidnap them instead. Bombing and shooting while injuring family members is way too much like the tactics of the enemy we fight.

Well, do we have an assassination of a civilian which basically boils down to "the ends justify the means?"

554 albusteve  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:42:44am

re: #553 justaminute

Well, do we have an assassination of a civilian which basically boils down to "the ends justify the means?"

somebody thinks so

555 blueraven  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:48:57am

re: #553 justaminute

Well, do we have an assassination of a civilian which basically boils down to "the ends justify the means?"

This kind of violence against civilians will backfire. Are these scientist working for the government by their own will or by force? And does that really matter?

556 engineer cat  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:52:22am

If the attacks and scrutiny of Mitt Romney’s Bain record have produced one positive for the former Massachusetts governor, it’s that some conservatives -- including those who haven’t been pulling for his campaign -- have started to rally to his defense. There’s Rush Limbaugh and the conservative Club for Growth. Rival Rick Santorum, who has thrown plenty of punches at Romney’s way, has defended Bain. Ditto Jon Huntsman, who yesterday said: “If you have creative destruction in capitalism, which has always been part of capitalism, it becomes a little disingenuous to take on Bain Capital.”

because everybody knows capitalism means destroying people's lives so ricj people can make more money! it's the American Way!

557 Gus  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:53:54am

re: #554 albusteve

somebody thinks so

This is quite a propaganda coup for the Iranian regime. And they are already reaping their rewards through a largely compliant media. It is my contention that the Iranian government murdered Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan to attain these goals. The Revolutionary Guard Corps Guard speaks:

A much stronger call for retribution came Thursday from one Iranian newspaper in particular, Kayhan, a mouthpiece for the country’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and for the Revolutionary Guard Corps.

“We should retaliate against Israel for martyring of our young scientist,” Kayhan’s editor-in-chief, Hossein Shariatmadari, who was appointed by the ayatollah, said in an editorial. Referring to the Israelis, he wrote: “These corrupted people are easily identifiable and readily within our reach.”

The Kayhan editorial, as translated by Agence-France Presse and other Western news services, also said: “The Islamic Republic has gathered much experience in 32 years, thus assassinations of Israeli officials and military members are achievable.”

Another hardline daily, Resalat, said, “The only way to finish with the enemy’s futile actions is retaliation for the assassination of Iran’s scientist.”

558 justaminute  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:55:33am

re: #555 blueraven

This kind of violence against civilians will backfire. Are these scientist working for the government by their own will or by force? And does that really matter?

I have a problem with the "against their will" part. He chose his career path by obtaining an education in that field. But as you know, if you know, he's not the first in that career field to be a target for assassination.

559 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:56:17am

Israeli citizenship has what appears to be a 3-tier track.

Jews are entitled to automatic and immediate citizenship under the Law of Return. Foreigners can obtain citizenship through a naturalization process, which requires residency and takes place over a 4-year period. Palestinians, in the territories, and other prescribed countries are prohibited from citizenship.

Adalah, which brought suit against the law, claims that the third, the lowest track, is for the spouses of Palestinian Arabs citizens of Israel from the OPT, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, and Iraq. claims that these 3-tracks which is based essentially on the nationality of the applicant, constitutes racial discrimination, and contradicts the principle of equality and prior decisions of the Supreme Court.

Undermining that particular argument is that Palestinian Arabs in Egypt aren't subject to the 3d tier; nor are Jordanian so it isn't a racial discrimination. Nationality is distinct from race.

That said, the existing 2d tier naturalization process should have been sufficient for security purposes and a 3d tier shouldn't have been necessary if sufficient safeguards were in place (background checks, etc.).

560 justaminute  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 10:57:58am

re: #557 Gus 802

Why do you classify it as a propaganda coup?

561 engineer cat  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 11:00:14am

newt didn't realize that to damage somebody in a gop race you have to argue. that they haven't been a big enough asshole

562 Gus  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 11:01:09am

re: #560 justaminute

Why do you classify it as a propaganda coup?

Because it seems to be working for them. This is feeding the pigs at the trough of US and Israeli hatred around the world. No one, or barely anyone, is asking the question, "did the Iranians do this?" Instead I am seeing the repeated rhetoric being leveled against both the USA and most particularly Israel. If anyone on our side were to assassinate an Iranian nuclear scientist why choose one that had a relatively low position in the Iranian nuclear enrichment production sector?

563 justaminute  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 11:07:05am

re: #562 Gus 802

Because it seems to be working for them. This is feeding the pigs at the trough of US and Israeli hatred around the world. No one, or barely anyone, is asking the question, "did the Iranians do this?" Instead I am seeing the repeated rhetoric being leveled against both the USA and most particularly Israel. If anyone on our side were to assassinate an Iranian nuclear scientist why choose one that had a relatively low position in the Iranian nuclear enrichment production sector?

Like I stated before his is not the first assassination of a scientist in that career field in Iran. And propaganda is a two way street.

564 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 11:07:37am

re: #359 Shropshire_Slasher

I don't know what all the outrage of the outrage is all about? In the original article, all of this information about an afternoon Halloween party with the children is present.
[Link: www.nypost.com...]

If you are going to be a shill for the Obama's, fine, I will agree to disagree.

See, this is what I mean. You point out that this fake outrage is pure nonsense, and right wingers respond by simply repeating it, as if everyone is supposed to just understand why they're so upset. They can't actually articulate the reason -- because it's not based on reason. It's pure antipathy.

565 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 11:10:36am

re: #550 Alouette

Citizenship applications should be decided on a case by case basis, with the option to reject someone who is quite admittedly hostile, but accept someone who in good faith would be a good citizen.

Agreed. Blanket ban is a terrible idea.

566 im_gumby_damnit  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 11:22:55am

When I heard about this event, my first thought was that it was pretty cool that Johnny Depp dressed up in character to entertain military families and didn't publicize the event or his involvement.

567 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 11:24:16am

re: #531 EmmmieG

I actually saw a study that said the kid who does the best in life is the one that is not in a group, but has friends in all the groups.

Until they all decide at once that you are collectively a traitor to them all. At which point twenty kids are chasing after you rather than 7-8 with some chance of finding refuge with a different group.

Been there. Done that. Comes from refusing to be blindly loyal to a hierarchy.

568 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 11:27:08am

re: #545 Alouette

Every country in the world is allowed to set its own standards for obtaining citizenship. Israel does not have the same laws as the U.S.

That's a better argument than the MBF-ish comment made earlier in the thread.

569 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 11:28:07am

re: #559 lawhawk

Israeli citizenship has what appears to be a 3-tier track.

Jews are entitled to automatic and immediate citizenship under the Law of Return. Foreigners can obtain citizenship through a naturalization process, which requires residency and takes place over a 4-year period. Palestinians, in the territories, and other prescribed countries are prohibited from citizenship.

Adalah, which brought suit against the law, claims that the third, the lowest track, is for the spouses of Palestinian Arabs citizens of Israel from the OPT, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, and Iraq. claims that these 3-tracks which is based essentially on the nationality of the applicant, constitutes racial discrimination, and contradicts the principle of equality and prior decisions of the Supreme Court.

Undermining that particular argument is that Palestinian Arabs in Egypt aren't subject to the 3d tier; nor are Jordanian so it isn't a racial discrimination. Nationality is distinct from race.

That said, the existing 2d tier naturalization process should have been sufficient for security purposes and a 3d tier shouldn't have been necessary if sufficient safeguards were in place (background checks, etc.).

It's a specific tussle having to do with citizenship and disputed territory. Doubtful that this is a good way to approach it.

This is, honestly, one of those situations that's always a bit tricky for me, since it's a specific area or policy in which I disagree with how the Israeli courts have tackled a specific issue. But it is very hard for me to look at this, and not note the actual context of the region, ie, as Alouette points out, the inadequate response of every nation in the region to the Palestinian refugee crisis, now into its sixth decade.

Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and Egypt all have Palestinian refugee communities, none of them granted citizenship or full civil rights. (And those who have those can lose them, as a number of former Jordanian citizens have found out.) Israel, on the other hand, has Arab Israeli citizens.

Meanwhile, Jordan's ceded their claim to West Bank to the PLO, and manages to excuse themselves from any responsibility for a large and controversial chunk of disputed territory that they considered theirs for quite some time.

So it's easy for me to critize Israel's stance on this, but it's hard for me to do so without some tension, because of the degree of criticism aimed solely at Israel in, shall we say, many, many conversations I've had about the region.

570 funky chicken  Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:02:13pm

re: #276 Gus 802

Contrary to popular belief Medea Benjamin is still an asshole.

Did anyone believe otherwise?


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