NH Gov. Lynch on James O'Keefe Vote Fraud Stunt: 'They Should Be Prosecuted'

NH Gov. Lynch on James O’Keefe Vote Fraud Stunt: ‘They Should Be Prosecuted’

Right wing attack dog crosses the line

WingnutsJanuary 2012 • Views: 23,013

James O’Keefe and his idiot squad (aka “Project Veritas”), who committed voter fraud in New Hampshire in order to help Republicans promote their “voter ID” laws across the nation, are being investigated by the US Attorney’s Office and the New Hampshire Attorney General’s Office, and New Hampshire Gov. John Lynch is calling for them to be prosecuted “to the fullest extent of the law.”

CONCORD, N.H. — State and federal investigators are looking into a hidden camera video of people getting ballots to vote in the New Hampshire primary after giving poll workers the names of people who recently died.

The online video is from Project Veritas, an organization founded by conservative activist James O’Keefe. The group said it went into 14 state polling locations Tuesday with hidden cameras and names of people who died so recently that their names were still on the registered voter lists.

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The group insisted it didn’t break any laws and didn’t claim to be another person when members gave the names of deceased people to poll workers. Gov. John Lynch said the group’s actions should be investigated.

“I think it is outrageous that we have out-of-staters coming into New Hampshire, coming into our polling places and misrepresenting themselves to the election officials, and I hope that they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, if in fact they’re found guilty of some criminal act,” he said.

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The U.S. Attorney’s Office and New Hampshire Attorney General’s Office are investigating the video.

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84 comments

Kragar Fri, Jan 13, 2012 11:52:25am

But voter fraud, and liberal media bias, and Obama, and stuff.

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 13, 2012 11:54:11am

It's no different than Joe Blow going to the airport with
a loaded firearm...and claiming 'I was just checking to
see if y'all were doin your job'!!
Of course they should be prosecuted!

Lidane Fri, Jan 13, 2012 11:55:05am

ACORN! Black Panthers! Voter intimidation! See? We need Voter ID laws to prevent this stuff!

Oh. This was a group of white conservatives? Never mind.

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albusteve Fri, Jan 13, 2012 11:57:49am

appointment with parole officer, 10am....whoops!

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 13, 2012 11:58:32am

re: #4 albusteve

...ah... your LATE!!!
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Kragar Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:00:20pm

I'm guessing the same shadowy government organization which masterminded the controlled demolitions on 9/11 and the coverup afterwards would be the same organization which would mastermind the coordination required to scan obituaries across the nation, recruit people to vote as the deceased (while they also cast their own votes at a different polling place) on a scale large enough to actually sway a national election, and not get caught or have anyone in their ranks ever come forward and tell people what they've done.

I didn't realized they worked for Bush and Obama though.

iossarian Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:02:47pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm guessing the same shadowy government organization which masterminded the controlled demolitions on 9/11 and the coverup afterwards would be the same organization which would mastermind the coordination required to scan obituaries across the nation, recruit people to vote as the deceased (while they also cast their own votes at a different polling place) on a scale large enough to actually sway a national election, and not get caught or have anyone in their ranks ever come forward and tell people what they've done.

It sounds like a crazy plan.

So crazy, it MIGHT ... JUST ... WORK!

Or, not.

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:06:19pm

If we were serious about our electoral process, we would issue a national voter ID card which was free of charge and easily available to all citizens, and mandatory for all national elections.

But that would involve government bureaucracy and engender costs running into the billions to put it into place. We seem to have more interesting things to spend our billions on...

engineer cat Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:08:04pm

can we just persecute them instead?

allegro Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:08:18pm

re: #8 ralphieboy

If we were serious about our electoral process, we would issue a national voter ID card which was free of charge and easily available to all citizens, and mandatory for all national elections.

But that would involve government bureaucracy and engender costs running into the billions to put it into place. We seem to have more interesting things to spend our billions on...

Especially since that's a solution looking quite desperately for a problem.

SpaceJesus Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:08:38pm

Oh, to be a US attorney in NH

dragonath Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:08:57pm

Considering the complete mess the NH state legislature is in, I wonder what would have happened if the governor was a Republican. They probably would have banned evolution as witchcraft as according to the Magna Carta or something.

iossarian Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:09:29pm

re: #8 ralphieboy

If we were serious about our electoral process, we would issue a national voter ID card which was free of charge and easily available to all citizens, and mandatory for all national elections.

But that would involve government bureaucracy and engender costs running into the billions to put it into place. We seem to have more interesting things to spend our billions on...

I realize that this is well-intentioned, but it would still discourage participation from the lower-SES portions of the electorate (e.g., you lose your card and can't take the time off work to go through the application process for a replacement).

I think the system works pretty well as-is. Automatic paid exemption from hourly labor to go and vote would be an ideal addition.

SpaceJesus Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:09:54pm

re: #9 engineer dog

can we just persecute them instead?

That will be their inmates' jobs

iossarian Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:11:39pm

re: #13 iossarian

I think the system works pretty well as-is.

Apart from the discrepancy in ease-of-voting between different classes and various right wing attempts to depress low-income voter turnout of course.

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:12:13pm

re: #10 allegro

Especially since that's a solution looking quite desperately for a problem.

Yes and no, we alreaedy had a national election in 2000 that was too close for comfort, I would feel better knowing that we had mechanisms in place to keep voter fraud or any other related vote-tallying issues to an absolute minimum.

Targetpractice Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:12:55pm

re: #10 allegro

Especially since that's a solution looking quite desperately for a problem.

Yeah, despite years of research and hand-wringing, the best the supposed "defenders of liberty" have managed to turn up are penny-ante examples, the largest perhaps a dozen guys, who got caught trying to commit voter fraud. And every example is always a "bombshell" that is supposed to be proof of widespread and damaging "voter fraud!"

albusteve Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:14:08pm

re: #8 ralphieboy

If we were serious about our electoral process, we would issue a national voter ID card which was free of charge and easily available to all citizens, and mandatory for all national elections.

But that would involve government bureaucracy and engender costs running into the billions to put it into place. We seem to have more interesting things to spend our billions on...

the only process important to govt is staying elected and keeping your job status as a hired hand...it's the federal Prime Directive

andres Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:18:11pm

re: #13 iossarian

Automatic paid exemption from hourly labor to go and vote would be an ideal addition.

In PR, election day is a paid holiday, and it boasts a pretty good voter turnout.

Varek Raith Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:18:18pm

John Edwards has life-threatening condition, judge discloses

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:18:30pm

too bad they probably won't do real prison time. Would be nice to see them all do the perp walk to a federal penitentiary.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:19:29pm

re: #1 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But voter fraud, and liberal media bias, and Obama, and stuff.

Also, John Lynch is a known Democrat.

RadicalModerate Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:19:36pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm guessing the same shadowy government organization which masterminded the controlled demolitions on 9/11 and the coverup afterwards would be the same organization which would mastermind the coordination required to scan obituaries across the nation, recruit people to vote as the deceased (while they also cast their own votes at a different polling place) on a scale large enough to actually sway a national election, and not get caught or have anyone in their ranks ever come forward and tell people what they've done.

I didn't realized they worked for Bush and Obama though.

Because the Republicans aren't interested in the "integrity" of the voting process.

If that were the case, they wouldn't have opposed, and repealed all of the "Motor Voter" initiatives that allowed for one's state-issued ID to count as a voter registration, claiming that it made the process of getting access to vote too easy (yeah - they actually said that).

allegro Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:19:52pm

re: #16 ralphieboy

Yes and no, we alreaedy had a national election in 2000 that was too close for comfort, I would feel better knowing that we had mechanisms in place to keep voter fraud or any other related vote-tallying issues to an absolute minimum.

Looking at individual voters for fraud is looking in the whole wrong place. As stated above, there could never be such a conspiracy that works to make any kind of difference. Where fraud can happen with serious consequences, and without a doubt has, is higher up the chain with election officials. This is why the voting terminals with no paper trails is so concerning. THIS is where the problems lie and they have nothing to do with voter IDs.

Targetpractice Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:19:57pm

re: #21 Dreggas

too bad they probably won't do real prison time. Would be nice to see them all do the perp walk to a federal penitentiary.

O'Keefe likely will, as part of his probation agreement was not being involved with persons committing a crime, which he obviously was as the ring-leader.

Charles Johnson Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:20:47pm

O'Keefe really is in trouble this time. It looks like he got every local official in NH mad at him too: AG probes voter fraud in NH after activists get ballots as dead people because they weren't ID'ed.

Officials in Nashua and Manchester said the filmmaker should be arrested.

“They should be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. When I was in the Senate, I always heard, ‘This never happens.' This is proof this happens,” said Manchester Mayor Ted Gatsas.

“People who pull stunts like this should be prosecuted,” Nashua City Clerk Paul Bergeron said.

EdDantes Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:22:44pm

Project Veritas has become a bad circus act.

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:22:49pm

re: #24 allegro

Looking at individual voters for fraud is looking in the whole wrong place. As stated above, there could never be such a conspiracy that works to make any kind of difference. Where fraud can happen with serious consequences, and without a doubt has, is higher up the chain with election officials. This is why the voting terminals with no paper trails is so concerning. THIS is where the problems lie and they have nothing to do with voter IDs.

That's what I meant about having mechanisms in place to keep vote-tallying issues to a minimum as well. It was clear in 2000 that we are far from serious about this issue.

Targetpractice Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:23:18pm

re: #26 Charles

O'Keefe really is in trouble this time. It looks like he got every local official in NH mad at him too: AG probes voter fraud in NH after activists get ballots as dead people because they weren't ID'ed.

But...but...but he was defending voter rights by committing voter fraud! They can't prosecute him for something he wasn't doing!!!111

BongCrodny Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:24:09pm

Project Derpitas.

Lidane Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:26:22pm

re: #26 Charles

O'Keefe really is in trouble this time. It looks like he got every local official in NH mad at him too: AG probes voter fraud in NH after activists get ballots as dead people because they weren't ID'ed.

Good. Let him face actual consequences for his actions for a change.

Kragar Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:27:13pm

Limbaugh blasts Obama's streamlining of Commerce Dept as anti-business; Forgets GOP candidates positions on Commerce Dept

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:27:49pm

re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

we never were at war with Eurasia, we've always been at war with Eurasia.

albusteve Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:27:50pm

re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Limbaugh blasts Obama's streamlining of Commerce Dept as anti-business; Forgets GOP candidates positions on Commerce Dept

Bozo speaks!....yawn

Targetpractice Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:28:23pm

re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Limbaugh blasts Obama's streamlining of Commerce Dept as anti-business; Forgets GOP candidates positions on Commerce Dept

I was wondering how long it would be before the usual suspects started screaming that this was a "bad thing."

Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:29:29pm

re: #15 iossarian

Apart from the discrepancy in ease-of-voting between different classes and various right wing attempts to depress low-income voter turnout of course.

The voter card should also come with a special free Ipad.

One that will make it easier for the selected voters to receive the email notifying that that voting has been moved from Tuesday to Wednesday in order to alleviate voting place congestion.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:30:18pm

O'Keefe is such a loser.Child in a man's body. His act is lame. Always will be.

Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:32:38pm

re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Limbaugh blasts Obama's streamlining of Commerce Dept as anti-business; Forgets GOP candidates positions on Commerce Dept

Completely unsurprising. I also expect the GOP to block it even though it's a idea they support.

SpaceJesus Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:33:25pm

I wonder if he'll plead

goddamnedfrank Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:34:32pm

O'Keefe's argument that they didn't technically break the law seems incredibly specious. Supposedly, he's arguing, they didn't identify themselves as the actual dead voters, but simply asked "do you have a (specific dead voter's name)" when asked to provide their own name. How this get's around the clear intent to deceive the poll workers and acquire a ballot they weren't entitled to is beyond me. The fact that they didn't vote is also irrelevant, it's a crime simply to fraudulently acquire the ballot, which was their stated goal. O'Keefe is now in double trouble because he's at the heart of a criminal conspiracy while on parole for a previous crime.

Too clever by half describes this guy's entire career, and hopefully he'll be spending some real time behind bars soon.

Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:35:17pm

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Kragar Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:36:15pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

O'Keefe's argument that they didn't technically break the law seems incredibly specious. Supposedly, he's arguing, they didn't identify themselves as the actual dead voters, but simply asked "do you have a (specific dead voter's name)" when asked to provide their own name. How this get's around the clear intent to deceive the poll workers and acquire a ballot they weren't entitled to is beyond me. The fact that they didn't vote is also irrelevant, it's a crime simply to fraudulently acquire the ballot, which was their stated goal. O'Keefe is now in double trouble because he's at the heart of a criminal conspiracy while on parole for a previous crime.

Too clever by half describes this guy's entire career, and hopefully he'll be spending some real time behind bars soon.

The problem being that while O'Keefe claims they had a clever plan to say they didn't ID themselves as the deceased, their illegal videotapes shows that they did several times.

Kragar Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:37:15pm

re: #39 SpaceJesus

I wonder if he'll plead

Is "Not guilty by reason of stupidity" acceptable?

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:37:41pm

re: #42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The problem being that while O'Keefe claims they had a clever plan to say they didn't ID themselves as the deceased, their illegal videotapes shows that they did several times.

Well, that's not his fault! He told them what to say! They were independent contractors, so if they screwed up, it's on them, not him.

goddamnedfrank Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:38:38pm

re: #42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The problem being that while O'Keefe claims they had a clever plan to say they didn't ID themselves as the deceased, their illegal videotapes shows that they did several times.

Youtube Video

Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:39:08pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

O'Keefe's argument that they didn't technically break the law seems incredibly specious. Supposedly, he's arguing, they didn't identify themselves as the actual dead voters, but simply asked "do you have a (specific dead voter's name)" when asked to provide their own name. How this get's around the clear intent to deceive the poll workers and acquire a ballot they weren't entitled to is beyond me. The fact that they didn't vote is also irrelevant, it's a crime simply to fraudulently acquire the ballot, which was their stated goal. O'Keefe is now in double trouble because he's at the heart of a criminal conspiracy while on parole for a previous crime.

Too clever by half describes this guy's entire career, and hopefully he'll be spending some real time behind bars soon.

I haven't watched the video or been following the story but there's also the factor of creative editing. It's entirely possible the events did even take place and were just creating by editing clips the right way. His video might be complete fiction.

ProMayaLiberal Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:40:02pm

re: #41 Killgore Trout

This is part of the same group of companies that gave good ratings to junk before the recession.

They consistently overvalue private holdings, and undervalue public/government holdings.

Kragar Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:41:25pm

re: #44 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, that's not his fault! He told them what to say! They were independent contractors, so if they screwed up, it's on them, not him.

I'm betting he actually thinks that.

lawhawk Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:42:27pm

OT, but pretty nasty winds in the NYC metro area. The BQE (a major highway connecting Brooklyn and Queens is closed/partially closed, as a result of a 200 foot tall advertising sign collapsing onto neighboring buildings and across part of the highway. There's also reports of a gas leak and partial building collapse as well. This guy photographed the scene before the media came calling...

Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:42:39pm

re: #47 ProLifeLiberal

This is part of the same group of companies that gave good ratings to junk before the recession.

They consistently overvalue private holdings, and undervalue public/government holdings.

There doesn't seem to be much panic in the DOW. I suppose investors have already factored in the impending downgrades.

Lidane Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:43:13pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Completely unsurprising. I also expect the GOP to block it even though it's a idea they support.

I'm going to laugh while watching Republican politicians saying that we can't merge or streamline government agencies. That will be a hoot.

Targetpractice Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:43:23pm

re: #46 Killgore Trout

I haven't watched the video or been following the story but there's also the factor of creative editing. It's entirely possible the events did even take place and were just creating by editing clips the right way. His video might be complete fiction.

Considering it's O'Keefe we're talking about, I'm pretty sure there's some footage that either has been cut or was purposefully erased. But what's already been shown is damning enough.

Don't think a prosecutor could ask for an easier case, as the defendants have provided all the evidence necessary to put their asses away for awhile, unless they start dealing. My guess is the goal will be nail O'Keefe, with pressure put on his partners to roll on him.

albusteve Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:43:30pm

Source: John Edwards has life-threatening heart condition

the dire wolf is on Edwards trial

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:46:37pm

re: #46 Killgore Trout

I haven't watched the video or been following the story but there's also the factor of creative editing. It's entirely possible the events did even take place and were just creating by editing clips the right way. His video might be complete fiction.

Given O'Keefe's track record, who the hell knows?

Targetpractice Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:46:45pm

re: #51 Lidane

I'm going to laugh while watching Republican politicians saying that we can't merge or streamline government agencies. That will be a hoot.

Considering that the proposal, as I understand it, is to streamline and downsize, I figure that we'll hear one or more Republicans make a fuss over the "jobs lost" before this is over.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:46:59pm

re: #41 Killgore Trout

So since republican posturing led to the downgrade we received over the summer does that mean republicans have helped make us like...France? Or is this different since we did it first?

albusteve Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:47:09pm

re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist

Given O'Keefe's track record, who the hell knows?

he does....waterboard the fucker

Lidane Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:48:27pm

re: #35 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I was wondering how long it would be before the usual suspects started screaming that this was a "bad thing."

Cue the 'splodey heads at Free Republic:

ZOMG! The Communist in office wants more power! Eleventy!

leftynyc Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:50:35pm

re: #58 Lidane

Cue the 'splodey heads at Free Republic:

ZOMG! The Communist in office wants more power! Eleventy!

I've tried reading that site after seeing it mentioned but I'm not totally connvinced it's not a bunch of liberals pretending. I mean, are there really people that out of touch with reality? There are those still wating for Sarch to jump in and save them all - that can't be real, can it?

SpaceJesus Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:50:36pm

OKeefe's crime is conspiracy. The crime was complete the moment he and his idiots agreed to go to NH and see if they could obtain dead people's ballots.

lawhawk Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:51:39pm

O'Keefe's likely to claim that he was within his rights as a journalist to try and highlight potential criminality relating to the elections, and that would probably be the crux (and full extent) of his defense.

However he wants to spin it, those people working on his behalf engaged in crimes on videotape - procurement under false pretenses is a crime, regardless of whether there was any intent to cast that ballot (a separate and additional crime under the relevant federal law). O'Keefe could try to claim that what these folks did wasn't at his behest, but again his own statements suggest that they were doing what he wanted them to do (opening up the possibility of accessory to the crime, conspiracy, etc., charges).

A federal prosecutor is likely to throw the book at him on this, and how will O'Keefe respond? Claim to be a martyr for the cause of "free speech and journalism"? Most likely, and that will be repeated ad nauseum by Breitbart and others, right up until the moment he's perp walked right into jail (or takes a plea deal to avoid even more lengthy prison sentencing).

aagcobb Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:51:58pm

re: #55 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Considering that the proposal, as I understand it, is to streamline and downsize, I figure that we'll hear one or more Republicans make a fuss over the "jobs lost" before this is over.

Coherence be damned, we must oppose anything Obama wants!

Kragar Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:53:04pm

re: #61 lawhawk

O'Keefe's likely to claim that he was within his rights as a journalist to try and highlight potential criminality relating to the elections, and that would probably be the crux (and full extent) of his defense.

However he wants to spin it, those people working on his behalf engaged in crimes on videotape - procurement under false pretenses is a crime, regardless of whether there was any intent to cast that ballot (a separate and additional crime under the relevant federal law). O'Keefe could try to claim that what these folks did wasn't at his behest, but again his own statements suggest that they were doing what he wanted them to do (opening up the possibility of accessory to the crime, conspiracy, etc., charges).

A federal prosecutor is likely to throw the book at him on this, and how will O'Keefe respond? Claim to be a martyr for the cause of "free speech and journalism"? Most likely, and that will be repeated ad nauseum by Breitbart and others, right up until the moment he's perp walked right into jail (or takes a plea deal to avoid even more lengthy prison sentencing).

He's already on probation. Wouldn't a conviction or plea at this point pretty much guarantee jail time?

aagcobb Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:53:29pm

re: #59 leftynyc

I've tried reading that site after seeing it mentioned but I'm not totally connvinced it's not a bunch of liberals pretending. I mean, are there really people that out of touch with reality? There are those still wating for Sarch to jump in and save them all - that can't be real, can it?

It can; these people live in an alternative universe.

albusteve Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:53:38pm

re: #61 lawhawk

O'Keefe's likely to claim that he was within his rights as a journalist to try and highlight potential criminality relating to the elections, and that would probably be the crux (and full extent) of his defense.

However he wants to spin it, those people working on his behalf engaged in crimes on videotape - procurement under false pretenses is a crime, regardless of whether there was any intent to cast that ballot (a separate and additional crime under the relevant federal law). O'Keefe could try to claim that what these folks did wasn't at his behest, but again his own statements suggest that they were doing what he wanted them to do (opening up the possibility of accessory to the crime, conspiracy, etc., charges).

A federal prosecutor is likely to throw the book at him on this, and how will O'Keefe respond? Claim to be a martyr for the cause of "free speech and journalism"? Most likely, and that will be repeated ad nauseum by Breitbart and others, right up until the moment he's perp walked right into jail (or takes a plea deal to avoid even more lengthy prison sentencing).

in that event there will be a mandatory incarceration for breaking probation...I presume...but he might pull the Lohan defense and skate

Targetpractice Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:53:54pm

re: #58 Lidane

Cue the 'splodey heads at Free Republic:

ZOMG! The Communist in office wants more power! Eleventy!

I've tried reading Free Republic before, but gave up when I realized nothing short of strong drugs would allow any of it to make sense.

albusteve Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:55:21pm

re: #66 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I've tried reading Free Republic before, but gave up when I realized nothing short of strong drugs would allow any of it to make sense.

you must read Free Republic if you want to be a serious contributor here...I don't

Targetpractice Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:55:58pm

re: #63 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

He's already on probation. Wouldn't a conviction or plea at this point pretty much guarantee jail time?

Ayep, even one of his buddies gets prosecuted and convicted, even pleads guilty to avoid jail time, and he's in violation of his probation.

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:57:39pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

There doesn't seem to be much panic in the DOW. I suppose investors have already factored in the impending downgrades.

The countries were told what they had to do to avoid a downgrade, nothing happened, so it was inevitable.

Question is, what will they have to do to regain their AAA status?

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:58:40pm

re: #56 Dreggas

So since republican posturing led to the downgrade we received over the summer does that mean republicans have helped make us like...France? Or is this different since we did it first?

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Maybe the French were simply trying to emulate the USA, like they did with their revolution.

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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jan 13, 2012 12:59:37pm

re: #62 aagcobb

Coherence be damned, we must oppose anything Obama wants!

You just summed up the GOP strategy and platform.

Iwouldprefernotto Fri, Jan 13, 2012 1:01:02pm

re: #27 EdDantes

Project Veritas has become a bad circus act.

Become. When was it not?

Iwouldprefernotto Fri, Jan 13, 2012 1:01:40pm

re: #69 ralphieboy

The countries were told what they had to do to avoid a downgrade, nothing happened, so it was inevitable.

Question is, what will they have to do to regain their AAA status?

Drink heavily.

Charles Johnson Fri, Jan 13, 2012 1:02:47pm

I'm listening to Dana Loesch's radio show for the first time. Good grief. She just said she didn't advocate desecrating corpses, she was just pointing out the liberal media's disproportionate outrage about it.

Verbatim quote, from Dana Loesch: "I’d drop trou and do it too."

How does she think she can claim she wasn't advocating it?

engineer cat Fri, Jan 13, 2012 1:02:50pm

American Research Group, Jan. 11-12

SOUTH CAROLINA
Romney 29%
Gingrich 25%
Paul 20%
Perry 9%
Santorum 7%
Huntsman 1%
Preserved Fish 10%

Our Best Wishes To Mr Gingrich In This Festive Cannibal Season!

Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 13, 2012 1:04:27pm

re: #75 engineer dog

American Research Group, Jan. 11-12

SOUTH CAROLINA
Romney 29%
Gingrich 25%
Paul 20%
Perry 9%
Santorum 7%
Huntsman 1%
Preserved Fish 10%

Our Best Wishes To Mr Gingrich In This Festive Cannibal Season!

What? Where's Colbert! Discrimination!!
/

Targetpractice Fri, Jan 13, 2012 1:04:55pm

re: #74 Charles

I'm listening to Dana Loesch's radio show for the first time. Good grief. She just said she didn't advocate desecrating corpses, she was just pointing out the liberal media's disproportionate outrage about it.

Verbatim quote, from Dana Loesch: "I’d drop trou and do it too."

How does she think she can claim she wasn't advocating it?

That's a familiar "defense": "I'm not saying I agreed with it, I'm just saying you all are getting too worked up about it!"

Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 13, 2012 1:05:16pm

re: #74 Charles

I'm listening to Dana Loesch's radio show for the first time. Good grief. She just said she didn't advocate desecrating corpses, she was just pointing out the liberal media's disproportionate outrage about it.

Verbatim quote, from Dana Loesch: "I’d drop trou and do it too."

How does she think she can claim she wasn't advocating it?

Denial. Soon to be followed by notpology.

Targetpractice Fri, Jan 13, 2012 1:08:50pm

re: #78 oaktree

Denial. Soon to be followed by notpology.

"I'm sorry you're getting worked up over nothing, so accept this 'apology' so I don't lose my job."

goddamnedfrank Fri, Jan 13, 2012 1:17:37pm

re: #74 Charles

I'm listening to Dana Loesch's radio show for the first time. Good grief. She just said she didn't advocate desecrating corpses, she was just pointing out the liberal media's disproportionate outrage about it.

Verbatim quote, from Dana Loesch: "I’d drop trou and do it too."

How does she think she can claim she wasn't advocating it?

Necrophiliac water sports eh?

She's a very kinky girl
The kind you don't take home to mother ...

Stephen T. Fri, Jan 13, 2012 3:20:18pm

re: #13 iossarian

I realize that this is well-intentioned, but it would still discourage participation from the lower-SES portions of the electorate (e.g., you lose your card and can't take the time off work to go through the application process for a replacement).

I think the system works pretty well as-is. Automatic paid exemption from hourly labor to go and vote would be an ideal addition.

I doubt we will ever see a law such as the one you propose. Corporate masters know how their minimum wage workers will usually vote, and they don't want that to happen.

I've worked for employers that purposely double up on shifts so that most of the employees would have to work for the duration of election day starting work before polls opened and ending their shift only after the polls closed. Missing a scheduled shift was a fireable offence on any other day, so election day was no different. If you wanted to vote, you had no job to return to after doing so.

Bubblehead II Fri, Jan 13, 2012 4:31:29pm

What I find funny about this whole thing is that if there is going to be voter fraud, it will not be by individual vote casters, but by someone who has access to the Electronic Voting Machines.

Bubblehead II Fri, Jan 13, 2012 4:32:43pm

re: #74 Charles

because she is an idiot?

Bubblehead II Fri, Jan 13, 2012 4:33:04pm

Moving upstairs.

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