Washington Post: Obama to Reject Keystone Oil Pipeline

An environmental disaster that won’t happen

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The Washington Post is reporting that the Obama administration will reject a Canadian company’s application to build a gigantic oil pipeline crossing the US-Canadian border: Obama administration to reject Keystone pipeline.

Forecast: frothing outrage across the entire right wing blogosphere. In other words, the usual.

The administration will allow TransCanada to reapply after it develops an alternate route through the sensitive habitat of Nebraska’s Sandhills. Deputy Secretary of State William J. Burns will make the announcement, which comes in response to a congressionally-mandated deadline of Feb. 21 for action on the proposed Keystone pipeline.

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169 comments

Obdicut Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:54:51am

The route was rejected, so the concept can continue if they reapply with revisions.

Charles Johnson Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:55:19am

re: #1 Obdicut

The route was rejected, so the concept can continue if they reapply with revisions.

That won't stop the coming outrage, though.

AK-47% Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:55:55am

And when gasoline prices go up for whatever reason, Obama will be blamed for "not doing enough to encouroage domestic production", although a) it involves Canada and b) most of it would wind up being shipped off to China (or the highest bidder) anyways.

harlequinade Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:55:58am

re: #2 Charles

Exactly. Why let facts get in the way of a good froth

Interesting Times in Benghazi Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:00:49pm

Relevant additional info:

The Oil Goes to China, the Permanent Jobs Go to Canada, We Get the Spills, and the World Gets Warmer

You’ll hear the GOP, the American Petroleum Institute, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce make wild claims about the job creation potential of the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline. Don’t be fooled. The pipeline company itself admits only “a few hundred permanent jobs” are created by Keystone XL.

The debate over whether Keystone XL creates jobs is a convenient diversion from something oil company backers don’t want you to know: this is an export pipeline to help them access foreign markets and bypass the United States. Oil companies will make bigger profits and oil prices for Americans will increase. That’s not a project that helps Americans. It’s a project that helps Big Oil.

albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:01:39pm

I've been through the Sand Hills and frankly don't get the 'sensitive' label....there are pipelines all across the country

Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:03:04pm

re: #5 publicityStunted

Relevant additional info:

The Oil Goes to China, the Permanent Jobs Go to Canada, We Get the Spills, and the World Gets Warmer

Had a wingnut who tried to claim that there were going to be "countless permanent jobs" created by the refineries being upgraded in Texas for this oil. That was until I showed him websites from as far back as '06, which showed the industry planning the upgrade of these refineries to handle the oil without any mention of a planned pipeline.

He went silent after that.

erik_t Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:03:40pm

re: #6 albusteve

I've been through the Sand Hills and frankly don't get the 'sensitive' label...there are pipelines all across the country

They sit atop the Ogalalla aquifer, which supplies water to something like 30% of the irrigated land in this country. Were you doing hydrology, or just driving down the highway?

Varek Raith Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:05:42pm

re: #8 erik_t

They sit atop the Ogalalla aquifer, which supplies something like 30% of the irrigated land in this country. Were you doing hydrology, or just driving down the highway?

Image: 410px-Ogallala_saturated_thickness_1997-sattk97-v2.svg.png

erik_t Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:07:01pm

re: #7 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Had a wingnut who tried to claim that there were going to be "countless permanent jobs" created by the refineries being upgraded in Texas for this oil. That was until I showed him websites from as far back as '06, which showed the industry planning the upgrade of these refineries to handle the oil without any mention of a planned pipeline.

He went silent after that.

Went silent after being presented with countervailing facts?

Not a very good wingnut.

Amory Blaine Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:08:06pm

BBL, wife is dragging me along to look at blinds and drapes. The only thing less appealing than this is to watch another GOP debate. Is there one coming on today?

Decatur Deb Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:09:45pm

re: #11 Amory Blaine

BBL, wife is dragging me along to look at blinds and drapes. The only thing less appealing than this is to watch another GOP debate. Is there one coming on today?

Tomorrow.

8pm ET on CNN
Location: Charleston, SC
Sponsor: CNN and the Southern Republican Leadership Conference
Participants: Romney, Perry, Gingrich, Santorum, Paul

Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:10:23pm

re: #10 erik_t

Went silent after being presented with countervailing facts?

Not a very good wingnut.

It was on a messageboard, so by going silent, it meant he skittered away from the topic, because he had no further arguments.

He does the same thing frequently, dropping out of threads when he's had his ass handed to him. Other times, he does play the good little automaton, beating the same dead horse until it's little more than a pile of bleached bones.

albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:11:45pm

re: #8 erik_t

They sit atop the Ogalalla aquifer, which supplies water to something like 30% of the irrigated land in this country. Were you doing hydrology, or just driving down the highway?

I was exploring the underground Passage to China

Decatur Deb Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:12:26pm

re: #14 albusteve

I was exploring the underground Passage to China

That starts in Denver, at the airport. (Or is that Dallas? Always winding up in Pismo Beach.)

Varek Raith Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:13:15pm

re: #15 Decatur Deb

That starts in Denver, at the airport.

Dude, shut up!!!

Interesting Times in Benghazi Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:13:16pm

John Boehner's Keystone XL conflict of interest

Environmentalists note that in December 2010, according to Boehner’s financial disclosure forms, he invested $10,000 to $50,000 each in seven firms that had a stake in Canada’s oil sands, the region that produces the oil the pipeline would transport. The firms include six oil companies — BP, Canadian Natural Resources, Chevron, Conoco Phillips, Devon Energy and Exxon — along with Emerson Electric, which has a contract to provide the digital automation for the first phase of a $9.4 billion Horizon Oil Sands Project in Canada.

Bill McKibben, a climate activist and co-founder of the group 350.org, wrote in an e-mail that Boehner has received more than $1 million from fossil-fuel companies, “and now we find out that he’s got extensive personal investments in companies dependent on tarsands oil.”

“He was willing to shut down the government in part to prevent enough time for serious environmental review,” McKibben added. “In any other facet of our public life . . . this whole list taken together would be seen for the gross conflict of interest that it is.”

albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:13:34pm

re: #15 Decatur Deb

That starts in Denver, at the airport.

manhole cover #B-832

erik_t Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:13:38pm

re: #14 albusteve

I was exploring the underground Passage to China

Seems like this would be a much more direct path for the pipeline. I wonder if the administration will approve that one.

albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:17:09pm

re: #19 erik_t

Seems like this would be a much more direct path for the pipeline. I wonder if the administration will approve that one.

this will creep you out...a fun story...
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:19:40pm

re: #20 albusteve

this will creep you out...a fun story...
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Are you just throwing it out there, or is this really good?

albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:21:50pm

re: #21 Sergey Romanov

Are you just throwing it out there, or is this really good?

I read it...the premise is so unusual I had to read it...not the greatest, but worth a few hours...a civilization of ancient hominids living under ground

AK-47% Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:23:02pm

re: #22 albusteve

I read it...the premise is so unusual I had to read it...not the greatest, but worth a few hours...a civilization of ancient hominids living under ground

Like Morlocks? My son just loves that movie...just as I did at his age.

darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:23:22pm

Boehner now crying on MSNBC about this..."He was supposed to wait 60 days and cave!"

"Now Canada will have to look to other nations to sell its oil...like China." WTF? They have an alternate pipeline route through China?

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:23:50pm

re: #22 albusteve

Heh, will have that in mind.

Now started reading King's short story Mile 81, about a van eating people. Silly, but good. Next up is his latest novel.

recusancy Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:23:59pm

Fox is America's most trusted news source: [Link: www.publicpolicypolling.com...]

darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:24:20pm

By the way, even if this pipeline went in, the oil would still be going to China...except with a Texas middle-man.

darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:25:12pm

re: #26 recusancy

Fox is America's most trusted news source: [Link: www.publicpolicypolling.com...]

That's why we have a Tea Party.

albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:27:27pm

re: #25 Sergey Romanov

Heh, will have that in mind.

Now started reading King's short story Mile 81, about a van eating people. Silly, but good. Next up is his latest novel.

just finishing Steven Saylor's 'Roma'...
pretty good stuff

erik_t Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:27:47pm

re: #26 recusancy

Fox is America's most trusted news source: [Link: www.publicpolicypolling.com...]

Sweet mother of mercy.

[deleted] Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:27:56pm

Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:28:59pm

re: #27 darthstar

By the way, even if this pipeline went in, the oil would still be going to China...except with a Texas middle-man.

And as the port where the oil would be off-loaded and refined is classified as a trade zone, there would be little to no taxes paid on the end-products before they were shipped off.

Kragar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:29:10pm

re: #31 ProLifeLiberal

I hope Anonymous finds out where you live, and does what they do best.

Tentacle Porn?

erik_t Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:29:24pm

re: #31 ProLifeLiberal

I don't. That's not how a democracy functions.

Obdicut Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:29:57pm

re: #31 ProLifeLiberal

Create image macros about how pathetic they are?

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:30:28pm

re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Tentacle Porn?

MPAA will out-tentacle the Anon, I'm sure. They're eldritch. That would be epic to see./

Kragar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:30:36pm

re: #35 Obdicut

Create image macros about how pathetic they are?

Macros of Tentacle Porn?

Interesting Times in Benghazi Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:30:44pm

re: #26 recusancy

Fox is America's most trusted news source: [Link: www.publicpolicypolling.com...]

Correction: 34% of respondents said it was their most-trusted source, and another 34% said it was their least-trusted source. Democrats - and Independents - gave positive trust ratings to all news sources except Fox, while Republicans gave positive trust ratings only to Fox.

Translation? Republicans are more out of touch with reality than ever.

[deleted] Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:31:15pm

Varek Raith Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:31:35pm

re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Macros of Tentacle Porn?

You, uh, like tentacle porn do ya???

darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:31:44pm

re: #32 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And as the port where the oil would be off-loaded and refined is classified as a trade zone, there would be little to no taxes paid on the end-products before they were shipped off.

Of course not...but there would be subsidies to help supplement the profits.

Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:31:46pm

re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Tentacle Porn?

What is it with you and tentacle porn? What, are you buddies with Cthulhu?

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:32:04pm

re: #42 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What is it with you and tentacle porn? What, are you buddies with Cthulhu?

/

She was his old gf.//

ProGunLiberal Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:32:31pm

re: #35 Obdicut

Some guy who put up videos of him abusing cats was found by anonymous.

His family (He was a minor) received all sorts of calls and had pizza's delivered constantly. They were made miserable.

re: #34 erik_t

I'm angry about this, and want Dodd to understand

ProGunLiberal Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:33:21pm

re: #39 albusteve

I despise these massive corporations, who should be taken apart by Anti-Trust Laws.

Obdicut Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:33:27pm

re: #44 ProLifeLiberal

Yeah. They also tormented some 14 year old girl and tried to get her to send them explicit pictures.

That's why it's known as the asshole of the internet.

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:33:40pm

re: #44 ProLifeLiberal

Some guy who put up videos of him abusing cats was found by anonymous.

His family (He was a minor) received all sorts of calls and had pizza's delivered constantly. They were made miserable.

re: #34 erik_t

I'm angry about this, and want Dodd to understand

If it's true that every time you eat a slice of pizza, the Mob makes six cents (pause here for sarc tags ///), Anon may want to stop using pizza delivery as a weapon.

Just saying.

recusancy Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:34:11pm

re: #39 albusteve

what?...you don't like the feds?

He's not a fed. He's CEO of the MPAA.

erik_t Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:35:07pm

re: #48 recusancy

And former Senator of CT. I didn't even realize he'd taken the lobbying job until just now.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:35:21pm

re: #46 Obdicut

Yeah. They also tormented some 14 year old girl and tried to get her to send them explicit pictures.

That's why it's known as the asshole of the internet.

They should ask Dodd that.

On a second thought, no.

darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:35:52pm

One of Gingrich's supporters: "I want to thank you, Mr. Gingrich, for putting Juan Williams in his place." Gingrich smiles and thanks her for the compliment.

Fuck.Me.

albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:36:02pm

re: #45 ProLifeLiberal

I despise these massive corporations, who should be taken apart by Anti-Trust Laws.

the feds are a massive corporation...elected officials making tons of money off the backs of the shareholders

erik_t Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:36:26pm

re: #50 Sergey Romanov

They should ask Dodd that.

On a second thought, no.

Stop Online Doddpr0n Act?

Protect Online Pleasantness?

ProGunLiberal Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:36:45pm

re: #46 Obdicut

I still say sic them on Dodd.

Sometimes, having a Chaotic Evil in your midst can be useful.

Kragar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:37:04pm

Newt: Palin Will 'Play A Major Role' In My Administration

Varek Raith Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:37:17pm

re: #54 ProLifeLiberal

I still say sic them on Dodd.

Sometimes, having a Chaotic Evil in your midst can be useful.

Oh my no.

albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:37:36pm

re: #48 recusancy

He's not a fed. He's CEO of the MPAA.

I didn't say he was...the feds hold all the cards tho, they are the puppetmasters....massive corporations exist because the govt allows them too, why shouldn't they?....$$$

Kragar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:37:40pm

re: #42 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What is it with you and tentacle porn? What, are you buddies with Cthulhu?

/

I plead the fifth.

Iwouldprefernotto Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:37:47pm

re: #6 albusteve

I've been through the Sand Hills and frankly don't get the 'sensitive' label...there are pipelines all across the country

Nothing is sensitive until the oil starts leaking.

Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:37:55pm

re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Newt: Palin Will 'Play A Major Role' In My Administration

Well, he will no doubt have a need for plenty of secretaries once in office.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:38:27pm

re: #56 Varek Raith

Oh my no.

Indeed. It will eat your sweetroll, shit in the kitchen, and that's the end of its usefulness.

Obdicut Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:38:43pm

re: #54 ProLifeLiberal

I still say sic them on Dodd.

Sometimes, having a Chaotic Evil in your midst can be useful.

If something has 'evil' right in the title of it, and you go ahead and pick it anyway, you've only yourself to blame.

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:39:36pm

re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Newt: Palin Will 'Play A Major Role' In My Administration

Oh, Newt.

Charles Johnson Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:39:39pm

re: #54 ProLifeLiberal

Please don't post comments like that at LGF.

darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:40:18pm

re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Newt: Palin Will 'Play A Major Role' In My Administration

Interior, Defense, or State?

Varek Raith Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:40:40pm

re: #61 Sergey Romanov

Indeed. It will eat your sweetroll, shit in the kitchen, and that's the end of its usefulness.

C.E. characters are the bane of an overlord's existence.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:40:45pm

re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Pandering for Palin fans. I doubt it will get him the nom.

Obdicut Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:40:48pm

re: #65 darthstar

Interior, Defense, or State?

She'll be auctioning off the states.

ProGunLiberal Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:40:56pm

re: #64 Charles

Sorry, won't happen again.

Interesting Times in Benghazi Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:41:01pm

re: #62 Obdicut

If something has 'evil' right in the title of it, and you go ahead and pick it anyway, you've only yourself to blame.

:-(

Ben G. Hazi Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:42:25pm

re: #51 darthstar

One of Gingrich's supporters: "I want to thank you, Mr. Gingrich, for putting that uppity n**ger Juan Williams, that was standing in for that other uppity n**ger OBummer, in his place." Gingrich smiles and thanks her for the compliment.

Fuck.Me.

FTFY to translate what that Gingrich supporter was really meaning, for the rest of the audience at home...

Sometimes, I can't decide whether to scream or cry.

Benghazzy Ben Ross Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:43:18pm

re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Newt: Palin Will 'Play A Major Role' In My Administration

Is that her cue to endorse someone else, like Bolton did after Newt dropped his name?

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:44:02pm

re: #70 publicityStunted

:-(

Scott Evil: I was thinking I like animals. Maybe I'd be a vet.
Dr. Evil: An evil vet?
Scott Evil: No! Maybe like work in a petting zoo.
Dr. Evil: An evil petting zoo?
Scott Evil: You always do that!

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:44:15pm

re: #65 darthstar

Interior, Defense, or State?

Cain wants defense. (Did everyone see the clip of him telling Barbara Walters that?)

albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:44:46pm

re: #71 talon_262

FTFY to translate what that Gingrich supporter was really meaning, for the rest of the audience at home...

Sometimes, I can't decide whether to scream or cry.

that joke is so old it's petrified

Romantic Heretic Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:45:03pm

There will be shrieking up here as well. Mostly about those "Damned commie environmentalists" and how they interfere with the free market.

zora Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:45:06pm

re: #26 recusancy

Fox is America's most trusted news source: [Link: www.publicpolicypolling.com...]

they topped the list of being trusted the most and least.

subsailor68 Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:46:16pm

Senator Dodd delivered a stern warning to Silicon Valley.

Dodd Warning

On Sunday, during the Golden Globes, the camera caught a white-haired man as it scanned the audience. It sure looked like Dodd. But, I thought, given the squabbles about not enough seating for people in the industry, that couldn't be right. How could he get a ticket? Couldn't be him.

Oops

Perhaps it's just me, but that seems a little shameless.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:47:17pm

re: #73 Sergey Romanov

"I didn't spend six years in Evil Medical School to be called "mister," thank you very much."

albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:47:48pm

re: #78 subsailor68

Senator Dodd delivered a stern warning to Silicon Valley.

Dodd Warning

On Sunday, during the Golden Globes, the camera caught a white-haired man as it scanned the audience. It sure looked like Dodd. But, I thought, given the squabbles about not enough seating for people in the industry, that couldn't be right. How could he get a ticket? Couldn't be him.

Oops

Perhaps it's just me, but that seems a little shameless.

Chris Dodd should be on trial, explaining what happened to FF/FM and his role

darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:49:21pm

re: #71 talon_262

FTFY to translate what that Gingrich supporter was really meaning, for the rest of the audience at home...

Sometimes, I can't decide whether to scream or cry.

I think it was clear as day what she meant. Even a passive-aggressive bigot like Mitt Romney (who stands on stage and smiles for the cameras while Newt blows the dog whistle next to him) could have caught that one.

Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:50:13pm

re: #73 Sergey Romanov

What would you stock an evil petting zoo with?

- Porcupines
- Electric Eels
- Fire ants
- ?

Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:50:45pm

re: #78 subsailor68

Senator Dodd delivered a stern warning to Silicon Valley.

Dodd Warning

On Sunday, during the Golden Globes, the camera caught a white-haired man as it scanned the audience. It sure looked like Dodd. But, I thought, given the squabbles about not enough seating for people in the industry, that couldn't be right. How could he get a ticket? Couldn't be him.

Oops

Perhaps it's just me, but that seems a little shameless.

I didn't think my opinion of the man could sink any lower, but then I read this and it started tunneling to China.

Seriously, frak this corporate shill. If Hollywood can't handle that the future is not a repeat of the past, then they need to get out of the movie business and make way for people willing to innovate.

erik_t Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:50:49pm

re: #82 oaktree

Slugs.

darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:51:06pm

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

Cain wants defense. (Did everyone see the clip of him telling Barbara Walters that?)

Yeah...like that'll happen. Ha!

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:51:09pm

re: #82 oaktree

Don't ask him about his plans for a "Heavy Petting Zoo". Just. Don't.

darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:51:59pm

re: #82 oaktree

What would you stock an evil petting zoo with?

- Porcupines
- Electric Eels
- Fire ants
- ?

Poison toads.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:52:07pm

re: #82 oaktree

What would you stock an evil petting zoo with?

- Porcupines
- Electric Eels
- Fire ants
- ?

Woodland critters.

Benghazzy Ben Ross Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:52:46pm

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

Cain wants defense. (Did everyone see the clip of him telling Barbara Walters that?)

Here, as narrated by Jon Stewart.

Comedy Central Video

Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:53:03pm

re: #82 oaktree

What would you stock an evil petting zoo with?

- Porcupines
- Electric Eels
- ~~Fire~~ Bullet ants
- ?

- Asian Giant Wasps

Girth Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:53:09pm

re: #56 Varek Raith

Oh my no.

Well, Korgan was pretty awesome in Baldur's Gate II.

darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:53:16pm

re: #86 Slumbering Behemoth

Don't ask him about his plans for a "Heavy Petting Zoo". Just. Don't.

Leave the Catholic Church out of this.

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:56:30pm

re: #85 darthstar

Yeah...like that'll happen. Ha!

He got Walters to do a double-take. She didn't twitch a muscle when Assad told her that only a madman kills his own people, but Cain saying "Defense" got a "WHAT?"

Kragar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:56:58pm

re: #91 Girth

Well, Korgan was pretty awesome in Baldur's Gate II.

All the cool kids play Lawful Evil.

Ben G. Hazi Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:58:39pm

re: #81 darthstar

I think it was clear as day what she meant. Even a passive-aggressive bigot like Mitt Romney (who stands on stage and smiles for the cameras while Newt blows the dog whistle next to him) could have caught that one.

You know, I know, most here at LGF, and the hard-core RWNJs knows exactly what that Gingrich supporter meant. The issue is those ignorant and misguided souls that would vote for today's GOP presidential candidates (especially the more virulent ones like Gingrich and Perry) based on a image and reputation long since gone. Name recognition still goes a long way, especially for a party that loves to prop up the corpse of Reagan any chance they get, never mind the fact that most of what they worship and fetishize about the man never really was to begin with.

SpaceJesus Wed, Jan 18, 2012 12:58:49pm

Big ideas man strikes again

[Link: livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

aagcobb Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:00:43pm

re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Newt: Palin Will 'Play A Major Role' In My Administration

Newt is pulling out all the stops; he knows if he doesn't beat Romney in S.C., its over.

albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:02:51pm

re: #97 aagcobb

Newt is pulling out all the stops; he knows if he doesn't beat Romney in S.C., its over.

how sad...next!
I really don't think anyone cares

Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:03:11pm

re: #97 aagcobb

Newt is pulling out all the stops; he knows if he doesn't beat Romney in S.C., its over.

Yep, because he's expecting that the South will be where he picks up wins. If Romney wins SC and continues his lead in Florida, then Newt's finished.

100

Ben G. Hazi Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:03:26pm

re: #97 aagcobb

Newt is pulling out all the stops; he knows if he doesn't beat Romney in S.C., its over.

He also knows this is his last shot at a GOP presidential nom ever, period. Paul and Romney knows their shelf life is up too.

101

allegro Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:05:01pm

re: #99 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yep, because he's expecting that the South will be where he picks up wins. If Romney wins SC and continues his lead in Florida, then Newt's finished.

Newt's been finished for a good 15 years. His toadies just won't tell him and his ego wouldn't hear it anyway.

102

zora Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:05:18pm

re: #96 SpaceJesus

Big ideas man strikes again

[Link: livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

The boss, who’s something of a gold standard enthusiast, is excited: Newt Gingrich called this morning for a Gold Commission, like the one Ronald Reagan set up in 1981, to consider how to get back to hard money (and perhaps to gold). Here’s video of Gingrich speaking in Columbia, S.C., at a foreign policy forum sponsored by the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition.

he's trying to get the goldbugs too.

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Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:06:18pm

re: #102 zora

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

he's trying to get the goldbugs too.

Paul's got that market cornered. Newt's too late this particular party.

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AK-47% Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:07:19pm

re: #71 talon_262

FTFY to translate what that Gingrich supporter was really meaning, for the rest of the audience at home...

Sometimes, I can't decide whether to scream or cry.

And to think that juan Williams was a bit of a poster child for the right when he got fired from NPR over some comments about feeling uncomfortable around traditionally-dressed Muslims in airports.

I think he is beginning to realize just what sort of people he has chosen to associate with...

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AK-47% Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:07:54pm

re: #82 oaktree

What would you stock an evil petting zoo with?

- Porcupines
- Electric Eels
- Fire ants
- ?

flesh-eating bacteria

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albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:08:18pm

re: #103 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Paul's got that market cornered. Newt's too late this particular party.

you buy gold in order to sell it at a profit...this ridiculous hyperbole regarding gold, and seeds and whatever is a diversion from reality, one generally made up by your types

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:08:42pm

re: #105 ralphieboy

flesh-eating bacteria

Piranhas then.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:09:03pm

re: #82 oaktree

Sharks, with freakin' lasers attached to their freakin' heads.

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aagcobb Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:09:19pm

re: #100 talon_262

He also knows this is his last shot at a GOP presidential nom ever, period.

That's true for all of them. These lightweights wouldn't stand a chance against the new GOP stars who'll be running next time around.

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darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:11:00pm

Best SOPA black out of the day...The Oatmeal.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:11:02pm

re: #82 oaktree

“Contrary to what most people say, the most dangerous animal in the world is not the lion or the tiger or even the elephant. It’s a shark riding on an elephant’s back, just trampling and eating everything they see.”
– Jack Handy

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AK-47% Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:11:36pm

re: #109 aagcobb

That's true for all of them. These lightweights wouldn't stand a chance against the new GOP stars who'll be running next time around.

I still cannot get over the fact that almost any of these goombahs were ever taken seriously as candidates. But that is the Palin legacy. Once she was held up as the standard, she opened the doors for people like Bachmann, Cain and Perry.

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Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:12:33pm

re: #110 darthstar

You should Page that. Extremely retweetable.

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Benghazzy Ben Ross Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:12:36pm

re: #110 darthstar

Best SOPA black out of the day...The Oatmeal.

I like the one by XBox Media Center.

[Link: xbmc.org...]

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Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:13:19pm

re: #99 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And no sooner did I say this then a bulletin from my CNN iPad app pops up, saying that Romney's lead over Newt is shrinking with 3 days to go. That would actually be good news for Obama, as it means an extended GOP primary season and continued infighting.

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Varek Raith Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:14:47pm

re: #106 albusteve

you buy gold in order to sell it at a profit...this ridiculous hyperbole regarding gold, and seeds and whatever is a diversion from reality, one generally made up by your types

Nope.
Try Ron Paul Types and the TeaParty.
It's mostly a wingnut thing to return to the gold standard.

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darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:15:08pm

re: #113 Rightwingconspirator

You should Page that. Extremely retweetable.

I facebooked it. I rarely do the twitter.

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HappyBenghazi Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:16:29pm

re: #116 Varek Raith

Nope.
Try Ron Paul Types and the TeaParty.
It's mostly a wingnut thing to return to the gold standard.

I'd add libertarians and anti government as a whole to that lot. My younger brother who knows shit about the economy is always bellyaching about the current system even though he knows nothing about it.

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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:16:41pm

re: #110 darthstar

Best SOPA black out of the day...The Oatmeal.

I'm trying to decide if I should say thank you for that link or not .... ///

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:17:35pm

re: #119 wlewisiii

I'm trying to decide if I should say thank you for that link or not ... ///

Oprah! On a jet-ski! With Jesus! In outer space!

(You've kinda gotta appreciate the Oatmeal.)

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Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:18:09pm

re: #119 wlewisiii

I was worried about Oprah and Jesus there for a sec... Did NOT want to see what might have been shown there. Whew!

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aagcobb Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:19:45pm

re: #115 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And no sooner did I say this then a bulletin from my CNN iPad app pops up, saying that Romney's lead over Newt is shrinking with 3 days to go. That would actually be good news for Obama, as it means an extended GOP primary season and continued infighting.

Romney still has a substantial lead in SC, though one Rasmussen poll shows Newt within 3 points nationally, which means squat.

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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:21:16pm

re: #121 Rightwingconspirator

I was worried about Oprah and Jesus there for a sec... Did NOT want to see what might have been shown there. Whew!

If you ever decide you need to see Oprah being dry-humped by Jesus (or vice-versa), just tune in to Dr. Phil. It's effectively the same thing, and provides the same weird, mixed feelings of distaste, humor, and vaguely menacing anxiety.

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:21:29pm

re: #121 Rightwingconspirator

I was worried about Oprah and Jesus there for a sec... Did NOT want to see what might have been shown there. Whew!

They're generally not blasphemous. Everything else, yes.

I mean, we are talking about the people who created The Motherfucking Pterodactyl here.

They also produced an excellent poster for teaching the difference between they're, there and their. Unfortunately, I have never been able to show it to my students, because well...

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Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:21:35pm

re: #122 aagcobb

Romney still has a substantial lead in SC, though one Rasmussen poll shows Newt within 3 points nationally, which means squat.

Think even a narrow victory by Romney in SC would be enough to revitalize Newt's campaign at this point.

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Ben G. Hazi Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:22:15pm

re: #106 albusteve

you buy gold in order to sell it at a profit...this ridiculous hyperbole regarding gold, and seeds and whatever is a diversion from reality, one generally made up by your types

Why don't you ask Glenn Beck about that "buy gold/seeds/guns" crap? He's one of the main reasons that it's a meme around here, one that just happens to fit the RWNJs to a T.

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dragonfire1981 Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:22:18pm

That didn't take long...

Gingrich on Obama’s Keystone Decision: “This Is a Stunningly Stupid Thing to Do”

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HappyBenghazi Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:22:46pm

re: #127 dragonfire1981

That didn't take long...

Gingrich on Obama’s Keystone Decision: “This Is a Stunningly Stupid Thing to Do”

Well Gingrich knows all about stunningly stupid things to do.

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darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:23:01pm

re: #121 Rightwingconspirator

I was worried about Oprah and Jesus there for a sec... Did NOT want to see what might have been shown there. Whew!

Sex was already illustrated by the koala and the goat...and Jesus doesn't do shit without first checking with Oprah.

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albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:23:05pm

re: #116 Varek Raith

Nope.
Try Ron Paul Types and the TeaParty.
It's mostly a wingnut thing to return to the gold standard.

they have nothing to do with gold...their 'standard' is ludicrous, but gold still made a sweet investment...just ask me...you don't want to invest in gold because of the TP?, fine....I made over 60k last May...get away from politics and the web and get going...there is money to be made

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Ben G. Hazi Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:23:34pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

Well Gingrich knows all about stunningly stupid things to do.

He is a cunning stunt...

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Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:23:35pm

re: #127 dragonfire1981

That didn't take long...

Gingrich on Obama’s Keystone Decision: “This Is a Stunningly Stupid Thing to Do”

Oh, expect the next week or so to be nothing but a running chorus of cries about how "stupid" it was to cancel this pipeline, but nobody wanting to point out that Obama gave his reason why he did, namely the arbitrary deadline the GOP set back in December.

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wrenchwench Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:23:57pm

re: #122 aagcobb

Romney still has a substantial lead in SC, though one Rasmussen poll shows Newt within 3 points nationally, which means squat.

My money's on Squat to win in Virginia.

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albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:24:37pm

re: #126 talon_262

Why don't you ask Glenn Beck about that "buy gold/seeds/guns" crap? He's one of the main reasons that it's a meme around here, one that just happens to fit the RWNJs to a T.

I don't give a shit what Glenn Beck says...he's nobody to me

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:24:43pm

Wikipedia still works on my droid. Y'all need me to look something up?

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Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:24:44pm

re: #123 negativ

If you ever decide you need to see Oprah being dry-humped by Jesus (or vice-versa), just tune in to Dr. Phil. It's effectively the same thing, and provides the same weird, mixed feelings of distaste, humor, and vaguely menacing anxiety.

LOL

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dragonfire1981 Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:24:48pm

And here's crazy Pammy chiming in:

OBAMA'S WAR ON AMERICA: OBAMA KILLS PIPELINE, 25,000 JOBS, CHEAPER ENERGY

The Obama administration will formally reject the permit for the Keystone XL pipeline today, multiple sources tell POLITICO. The announcement will come this afternoon from the State Department. (Politico)

Job killer, economy killer, energy independence killer ........... instead he shooses to enrich and embolden funding Islamic supremacist nations with petrol dollars.

Obama forced Canada to sell its huge oil reserves to China instead of the United States. China, of course, has rushed in.

Horrible.

Back in November, I posted this at Atlas:

Obama has killed a desperately needed pipeline. We lose 25,000 jobs and CHEAPER energy costs, while alienating one of America's greatest allies.

Where are the Republican warriors on the right? Aren't they more afraid of what Obama and the uber left are doing to destroy this country than they are of the ankle-biting press?

Considering the dire straits this nation is in, this is criminal.

25 000 jobs? Where the hell is this number coming from?

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Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:25:26pm

re: #137 dragonfire1981

And here's crazy Pammy chiming in:

25 000 jobs? Where the hell is this number coming from?

Same place most of her "facts" and "figures" come from: Straight out of her ass.

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HappyBenghazi Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:25:37pm

re: #137 dragonfire1981

And here's crazy Pammy chiming in:

25 000 jobs? Where the hell is this number coming from?

It's the vodka talking. Nothing to see, nothing to do., and nothing to hear.

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McSpiff Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:26:13pm

From my limited understanding... One possibility is Keystone XL not re-applying. Once they get the agreement of BC native groups, you'll see this pipeline run from the Alberta Tarsands to Kitimat, BC. Its already home to a large aluminum smelter, but you'll see a deep water terminal put in. There's also talk of a LNG terminal in Kitimat. From there, the oil goes to China.

Personally, I think this would be an excellent plan.

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Varek Raith Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:26:17pm

re: #137 dragonfire1981

And here's crazy Pammy chiming in:

25 000 jobs? Where the hell is this number coming from?

Estimates are it would create 20 to 100 permanent jobs.
6000 temp construction jobs.
And guess what?
The oil would be sold overseas anyway.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:26:28pm

re: #137 dragonfire1981

And here's crazy Pammy chiming in:

25 000 jobs? Where the hell is this number coming from?

The made-up number fairy.

Same fairy who distributes statistics.

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albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:26:34pm

re: #139 HappyWarrior

It's the vodka talking. Nothing to see, nothing to do., and nothing to hear.

correct

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wrenchwench Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:26:49pm

re: #138 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Same place most of her "facts" and "figures" come from: Straight out of her ~~ass~~ bottle.

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dragonfire1981 Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:27:05pm

re: #142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The made-up number fairy.

Same fairy who distributes statistics.

I'm not sure it makes sense to refer to Fox News as a "fairy"

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AK-47% Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:27:18pm

re: #137 dragonfire1981

"he shooses to enrich and embolden funding Islamist supremicasists..."

Schoosing? Is that like schmoozing?

147

William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:27:45pm

[Link: xkcd.com...] is good on SOPA as well.

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darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:28:38pm

re: #137 dragonfire1981

And here's crazy Pammy chiming in:

25 000 jobs? Where the hell is this number coming from?

Obama kills 250,000 jobs? I hadn't read that!
/

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darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:29:08pm

re: #148 darthstar

Obama kills 250,000 jobs? I hadn't read that!
/

I don't know how congress can let him kill 2,500,000 jobs.

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Varek Raith Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:29:44pm

re: #149 darthstar

I don't know how congress can let him kill 2,500,000 jobs.

32,000 WARSHIPS.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:30:47pm

re: #149 darthstar

I don't know how congress can let him kill 2,500,000 jobs.

2 jobs!?!

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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:32:24pm

re: #149 darthstar

I don't know how congress can let him kill 2,500,000 jobs.

Now the Job Creators will reactivate their status chambers and return to the Halls of Z'grathea, where they will sleep for another thousand years, unable to deliver the gift of 25,000,0000,000 jobs turned down by the ruthless Barack the Preventor.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:33:47pm

re: #152 negativ

You have serious gamer nerd-fu.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:35:37pm

Herpderpedia

A twitter feed chronicling the tweets from twits who don't know why Wikipedia is down today.

eilidhwright Eilidh Wright☺
not just wikipedia that's being victimised. do obama and his cronies realise how inconvenient they are being?!

Heh.

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Varek Raith Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:36:34pm

re: #154 Slumbering Behemoth

Herpderpedia

A twitter feed chronicling the tweets from twits who don't know why Wikipedia is down today.

Heh.

Lol.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:37:41pm

re: #155 Varek Raith

That's my next master plan for world domination. Me and my cronies are going to be inconvenient.

Mwahahaha!

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Varek Raith Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:38:17pm

re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth

That's my next master plan for world domination. Me and my cronies are going to be inconvenient.

Image: 240px-Professor_Chaos.jpg

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albusteve Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:39:08pm

re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You have serious gamer nerd-fu.

yes, but they don't even know it

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:40:17pm

re: #154 Slumbering Behemoth

Brilliant!

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Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:43:57pm

re: #154 Slumbering Behemoth

Herpderpedia

A twitter feed chronicling the tweets from twits who don't know why Wikipedia is down today.

Heh.

SB, you've just made my day. Thanks.

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Varek Raith Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:45:14pm

re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You have serious gamer nerd-fu.

A google search turns up nothing.
Probably completely made up.
;)

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darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:45:41pm

re: #157 Varek Raith

Image: 240px-Professor_Chaos.jpg

SOPA would make that comment impossible.

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darthstar Wed, Jan 18, 2012 1:47:00pm

re: #154 Slumbering Behemoth

Herpderpedia

A twitter feed chronicling the tweets from twits who don't know why Wikipedia is down today.

Heh.

Ha!

gti Tony
i heard wikipedia is down because of some sofa
15 hours ago
Retweeted by @herpderpedia

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Amory Blaine Wed, Jan 18, 2012 2:48:19pm

re: #88 Sergey Romanov

Woodland critters.

Youtube Video

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Petero1818 Wed, Jan 18, 2012 6:25:43pm

re: #24 darthstar

Boehner now crying on MSNBC about this..."He was supposed to wait 60 days and cave!"

"Now Canada will have to look to other nations to sell its oil...like China." WTF? They have an alternate pipeline route through China?

Well, what we have is a plan for another pipeline from Northern Alberta through the north of British Columbia to the Northern deep water port near Kitimat BC. From there it can be shipped in tankers to China and anywhere else. We are debating the environmental impact of this as we speak and hearings are about to begin. Either way, we will export oil both to the US, and to Asia. The deep water port can also be used for transport to CA.

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tshinkle Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:41:32pm

The route is not the issue, rather it's the left's ongoing fight against fossil fuels. Nobody, who is serious, believes the "full review" argument, which truly is a joke.

The truth is, with this administration (and the left), environmentalism trumps liberty, trumps jobs, trumps financial independence from China, and trumps energy independence from the radical middle east.

Of course the right were playing politics by imposing the deadline, but the alternative was to let the Administration continue to stall indefinitely and not bring this very important issue to the voters during an election year.

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KronoGhazi Thu, Jan 19, 2012 12:13:44pm

re: #166 tshinkle

All your hollow right wing talking points are belong to us. You reject climate science and are a right wing ideologue incapable of having a discussion. Instead you post at the end of threads so you don't have to take part in one.

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KronoGhazi Thu, Jan 19, 2012 12:32:45pm

re: #166 tshinkle

Your post not only completely reframes the issue into liberal/blame worldview, the most telling point is that you completely disassociate the use of fossil fuel with negative effects of global warming.

You are right in that environmentalism trumps '...liberty, jobs, financial independence from China, and energy independence from the radical middle east.'

It absolutely does. Global warming caused by fossil fuels will make all those issues seem a silly worry in a few decades, if that. But you choose to ignore it, reject it, or blame it on liberals. That's ideology, not objectivity.

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Interesting Times in Benghazi Thu, Jan 19, 2012 12:47:44pm

re: #167 BigPapa

All your hollow right wing talking points are belong to us.

Alex Jones talking points is even more appropriate. I wonder if tshinkle is a 9/11 truther as well? :P

You reject climate science and are a right wing ideologue incapable of having a discussion.

Perhaps he also participated in this lovely activity:

A well-organized and vocal group of residents has taken a keen interest in municipal preparations for sea-level rise caused by climate change, often shouting their opposition, sometimes while planners and politicians are talking.
...
As the opposition grew over the summer, confrontations became so heated that some planners posted uniformed police officers at meetings and others hired consultants to help calm audiences and manage the indoor environment, several planners said.
...
“It’s driving public policy sideways,” Lawrence said. “It’s not advancing it. It’s not going backward. The voice of a minority is trying to assert itself as the voice of the majority.”

And, like classic willfully ignorant bullies incapable of taking responsibility for their actions, when the inevitable rising waters threaten their lives and property, they'll be screaming like stuck pigs for the government to come to their rescue.

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