Stephen Colbert’s Unrelated Super PAC Releases Ad Attacking Stephen Colbert
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jaunte Wed, Jan 18, 2012 8:38:29pm |
The super PAC is known by two names:
“Americans for a Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow”
and:
“The Definitely Not Coordinating With Stephen Colbert Super PAC.”
Colbert super PAC ad promises “orgy of pure distortion”
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jan 18, 2012 8:42:11pm |
Dennis Heybert with the VO? Either way funny stuff.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 8:42:41pm |
That settles it, I definitely can’t support Colbert now.
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SpaceJesus Wed, Jan 18, 2012 8:45:06pm |
this is him. this is the man who can beat obunglar
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The War TARDIS Wed, Jan 18, 2012 8:55:58pm |
It is extremely safe to say politics became a whole lot less important for several days at the least.
I admit, because of the way my Dad has treated my mom, sister, and I, I probably won’t be heavily affected when he dies.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 18, 2012 8:56:33pm |
Samuel L. Jackson?
“And I will strike down with great self-righteousness and furious DERPitude, you will know that my name is Barack!1”
/I’m kidding, entirely so.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:16:55pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:21:48pm |
re: #1 freetoken
Hmm… maybe LGF needs a Super-PAC?
I’ll do it for twice the price, and only half the lying!
/
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The War TARDIS Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:25:29pm |
re: #9 Slumbering Behemoth
I like this idea!
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TedStriker Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:33:22pm |
re: #3 HappyWarrior
Dennis Heybert with the VO? Either way funny stuff.
That’s not Haysbert; not enough bass.
Sounded a lot like Samuel L. Jackson, as D_F posited.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:33:56pm |
And here’s the photo of the mini I was working on as part of my game on Saturday. The mini right below the envelope picture is the one I was working on tonight (it’s called a Spartan), but with the exception of the Kintaro to its left, I painted all the minis you see in this photo.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:35:58pm |
re: #12 Dark_Falcon
Gawd, you are such a nerd.
/
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:38:37pm |
re: #11 talon_262
That’s not Haysbert; not enough bass.
Sounded a lot like Samuel L. Jackson, as D_F posited.
Actually, the positing was done by Charles, who tagged the post with Mr. Jackson’s name.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:41:28pm |
That’s not Haysbert; not enough bass.Sounded a lot like Samuel L. Jackson, as D_F posited.
Yeah it’s Jackson. I think I got confused because he didn’t say motherfucking.
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TedStriker Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:43:04pm |
re: #14 Dark_Falcon
Actually, the positing was done by Charles, who tagged the post with Mr. Jackson’s name.
Whoops…didn’t see that tag.
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TedStriker Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:44:43pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:48:24pm |
re: #17 talon_262
That rant that starts with “Enough is enough!” definitely sounds like ol’ Samuel L.
Yeah it’s definitely him. This is just as bad as the time I mistook him for Danny Glover in Goodfellas playing Stacks.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:48:50pm |
re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth
Gawd, you are such a nerd.
/
Tune in tomorrow for a painted mini of the Marauder IIC, which some of you might remember from the old Mechwarrior 2 PC game.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:49:55pm |
Way I look at it everyone’s a nerd in some shape or form. Friend of mine called fantasy football, Dungeons and Dragons for jocks. Got a chuckle out of that but reminded him that I am no jock.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:52:40pm |
re: #20 HappyWarrior
Way I look at it everyone’s a nerd in some shape or form. Friend of mine called fantasy football, Dungeons and Dragons for jocks. Got a chuckle out of that but reminded him that I am no jock.
Never could find the appeal of D&D, but I think that’s because I’m a gamer and so find it easier to play RPGs on a computer/TV screen than in my head.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:53:54pm |
re: #21 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Never could find the appeal of D&D, but I think that’s because I’m a gamer and so find it easier to play RPGs on a computer/TV screen than in my head.
I’ve never been into RPGs period. I did try out Skyrim over the weekend for the first time as my brother owns it. I dig it but I like a Metal Gear Solid/Hitman game more so. It is fun though.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:54:13pm |
re: #21 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Never could find the appeal of D&D, but I think that’s because I’m a gamer and so find it easier to play RPGs on a computer/TV screen than in my head.
RPG players are gamers as are board gamers.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:56:11pm |
My dream game is a prison escape/stealth game or a Great Escape like game. Now they’ve made the latter a couple times but both games had some heavy flaws like being too linear for one. I’d also love if Konami remade the old Metal Gear games for the MSX in PS3 type graphics and stuff but that’s not gonna happen though I am content with them porting them to the MGS HD collection.
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TedStriker Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:56:48pm |
re: #18 HappyWarrior
Yeah it’s definitely him. This is just as bad as the time I mistook him for Danny Glover in Goodfellas playing Stacks.
Didn’t really matter when Joe Pesci blew the back of his head off, but I digress ;-P
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:58:05pm |
re: #25 talon_262
Didn’t really matter when Joe Pesci blew the back of his head off, but I digress ;-P
Was that funny to you?!
//
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:58:21pm |
re: #25 talon_262
Didn’t really matter when Joe Pesci blew the back of his head off, but I digress ;-P
Ha, no. Just a source of heated argument between me and my brother. You know little brothers. Love getting one up on the older one. The other did it to me tonight on Jeopardy. Third night in a row I’ve gotten final jeopardy wrong, I’m slipping!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:58:37pm |
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Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:59:01pm |
Don’t think there’s any one kind of video game I like, but I’ve gravitated more towards the scifi series, whether be the futuristic games like Mass Effect, the scifi horror like Bioshock, or post-apocalyptic like Fallout. I’ve really gotten into Skyrim, but it’s really the first fantasy RPG I’ve ever found myself liking.
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TedStriker Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:00:05pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:01:32pm |
re: #30 talon_262
It’s just that you’re a funny guy, you know…
///
Like a clown? I amuse you? Funny how? How the fuck am I so funny, Henry?
//
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:02:38pm |
re: #21 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Never could find the appeal of D&D, but I think that’s because I’m a gamer and so find it easier to play RPGs on a computer/TV screen than in my head.
D&D on a computer is much simpler. It takes all the scribbling, erasing, die rolling, buffalo-ing, rule lawyering tedium out of the equation. I got hooked with this.
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TedStriker Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:03:49pm |
re: #31 HappyWarrior
Like a clown? I amuse you? Funny how? How the fuck am I so funny, Henry?
//
Getthefuckouttahere, Tommy!
//
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:03:55pm |
One thing that I’ve never been able to get into are things like Star Wars and Harry Potter. I finally saw a Harry Potter film as the kid brother is reading the books and seeing the films. It wasn’t bad but I couldn’t get into it. My jock side can’t embrace soccer and hockey.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:04:35pm |
re: #6 ProLifeLiberal
It is extremely safe to say politics became a whole lot less important for several days at the least.
I admit, because of the way my Dad has treated my mom, sister, and I, I probably won’t be heavily affected when he dies.
Hang in there. I’m so sorry to hear of your friend’s loss.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:04:59pm |
re: #33 talon_262
Getthefuckouttahere, Tommy!
//
Ya motherfucker! I almost had him, I almost had him! You stuttering prick, you! Frankie, was he shaking? I wonder about you sometimes, Henry. You may fold under questioning.//
With thanks to Wikiquotes for having the whole dialogue and not forcing me to put on the film though it’s one of my all time favoriets.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:09:34pm |
Since the black out is over here’s the “Tron Paul” xkcd cartoon. Not really that impressive IMO since the TRON PAUL concept can be taken many places.
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TedStriker Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:11:31pm |
re: #34 HappyWarrior
One thing that I’ve never been able to get into are things like Star Wars and Harry Potter. I finally saw a Harry Potter film as the kid brother is reading the books and seeing the films. It wasn’t bad but I couldn’t get into it. My jock side can’t embrace soccer and hockey.
Harry Potter’s not my thing, though most everyone else in the house is into it. However, I grew up with Star Wars and the Star Trek movies with the OS cast, as well as ST:TNG. Between those, while I love Star Wars (the original trilogy; you can take or leave Episodes I through III), I’m more of a Trek man.
Yeah, Kirk and Picard are my yin and yang of Starfleet captains, though Sisko from DS9 combined many traits from both and added a dark, brooding feel in the latter half of that series.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:18:33pm |
re: #37 oaktree
Since the black out is over here’s the “Tron Paul” xkcd cartoon. Not really that impressive IMO since the TRON PAUL concept can be taken many places.
[Link: xkcd.com…]
The next scene shows Obama activating his own lightcycle, and leading a group of red-colored cycles after Luap Nort:
Obama: “Big Gov. Cheese to group: Run that old codger into your Socialist Jetwalls!”
/The red is a Tron reference adapted to fit the meme in a fun way. I’m not actually accusing the president of being a socialist here.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:21:56pm |
re: #40 Dark_Falcon
/The red is a Tron reference adapted to fit the meme in a fun way. I’m not actually accusing the president of being a socialist here.
You liar. And let me tell you what else you think…
//
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Targetpractice Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:25:54pm |
Think that’s pretty much the only reason I watch the Superbowl, just to see the commercials everybody will be talking about the following day.
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The War TARDIS Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:30:44pm |
Ok, in order to try an not be miserable, I’m watching a review from the Nostalgia Critic. This one on Moulin Rouge. He says the movie was awful (Twilight-class awful, in his opinion maybe worse). I never saw the whole thing.
How bad was it?
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dog philosopher Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:41:22pm |
re: #20 HappyWarrior
Way I look at it everyone’s a nerd in some shape or form
since i’m a computer programmer and an admirer of great programmers i must be a nerd nerd. or maybe a nerd nerd nerd
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:43:09pm |
re: #44 ProLifeLiberal
Ok, in order to try an not be miserable, I’m watching a review from the Nostalgia Critic. This one on Moulin Rouge. He says the movie was awful (Twilight-class awful, in his opinion maybe worse). I never saw the whole thing.
How bad was it?
I thought it reasonably good.
And I’m also going to bed. Goodnight, all.
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The War TARDIS Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:43:42pm |
I decided to check Facebook.
The three siblings are in my friends list. It is one of the saddest things ever.
Right now, I really want things stop going downhill for my friends in Colorado.
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dog philosopher Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:44:38pm |
re: #44 ProLifeLiberal
Ok, in order to try an not be miserable, I’m watching a review from the Nostalgia Critic. This one on Moulin Rouge. He says the movie was awful (Twilight-class awful, in his opinion maybe worse). I never saw the whole thing.
How bad was it?
pfff
imho not the best movie of all time, but it doesn’t get a high rating on leonard plinth garnell’s Bad Cinema
actually, i enjoyed it, and i’m a big movie nerd
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:44:43pm |
re: #38 talon_262
Harry Potter’s not my thing, though most everyone else in the house is into it. However, I grew up with Star Wars and the Star Trek movies with the OS cast, as well as ST:TNG. Between those, while I love Star Wars (the original trilogy; you can take or leave Episodes I through III), I’m more of a Trek man.
Yeah, Kirk and Picard are my yin and yang of Starfleet captains, though Sisko from DS9 combined many traits from both and added a dark, brooding feel in the latter half of that series.
Two of my good friends are Star Wars fans. My one friend’s folks were huge Sci-Fi fans. Can remember his Dad always having Star Trek on and working on his computer. My dad was more into music and to a smaller extent basketball. My mom’s always joked that she never will be a Sunday widow since my Dad’s one of the few men who don’t like football. I mean he’ll watch if I have it on and knows some stuff but he’d rather discuss music than football. Got my football love from watching games with my mom’s dad.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:45:30pm |
Never saw Moulin Rouge. I just remember hearing that cover of that one song so many times back in the day.
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dog philosopher Wed, Jan 18, 2012 10:57:28pm |
i’m guessing that wimmens who go to christian science “testimony” on wednesday nights are not gonna want a hit offa da blunt, mon
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:00:59pm |
re: #51 engineer dog
If that’s a euphemism for “oral”, I’m guessing “no”. But the repressed sometimes have a way of surprising you.
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dog philosopher Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:04:46pm |
re: #52 Slumbering Behemoth
If that’s a euphemism for “oral”, I’m guessing “no”. But the repressed sometimes have a way of surprising you.
no, brah - da blunt is where you puts somma that whacky weed inna cigar mon
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:06:49pm |
re: #53 engineer dog
Ah, so straight forward, cheesy stereotype. Got it.
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dog philosopher Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:12:21pm |
re: #54 Slumbering Behemoth
cheesy stereotype
ya its a kind of hawaiian jamaican pat-wa mash up d00d
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:19:06pm |
re: #55 engineer dog
Fuck it. If you have nothing better to do, just go on that date. Could make for a funny story.
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dog philosopher Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:26:55pm |
re: #56 Slumbering Behemoth
Fuck it. If you have nothing better to do, just go on that date. Could make for a funny story.
oh, i’m taking her out to dinner tomorrow. she’s a very nice person and not completely uninteresting
the way these things work is that after the set-up dinner, both parties tell the service if they want to see the person again, and if they both do then the service gives out with the contact information. i said she was nice but i didn’t think so, but she told them yes she wanted to see me. the service messed up and went ahead anyway, so i’ll be nice and play along and take her out
i’m tempted to mess with her head but i’ll be nice
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:33:38pm |
re: #52 Slumbering Behemoth
But the repressed sometimes have a way of surprising you.
TMI… butt the only gal I’ve been with that actually asked for “backdoor” came from a strict, religious family.
It kinda weirded me out.
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simoom Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:34:01pm |
Probably already posted somewhere, but just in case, the House finally got to have their first political-grandstanding vote-of-disapproval that was part of their demands in the debt limit deal (the President was even an extra-good sport by acquiescencing to the GOP request to delay his debt ceiling increase request till they came back in session):
The House of Representatives rejected a $1.2 trillion increase in the federal debt limit on Wednesday in a largely symbolic vote that allowed Republicans to stake out election-year positions to bash President Barack Obama’s spending record.
The Republican-controlled House voted 239 to 176 along party lines in favor of a “resolution of disapproval” against the increase sought by Obama, a Democrat, but the winning tally fell far short of the two-thirds majority needed to override a presidential veto.
The effort to block the debt limit increase is expected to die in the Democrat-controlled Senate, which reconvenes in Washington next week.
The vote was largely an academic exercise as Congress gave Obama the authority to increase the debt limit last August as part of a deal to end a rancorous budget battle that brought the United States to the brink of default and cost it its coveted top-tier credit rating from Standard & Poor’s rating agency.
Under that deal, Congress granted Obama a $2.1 trillion increase in several steps: $400 billion immediately, followed by a $500 billion hike and a final $1.2 trillion hike subject to Wednesday’s protest vote.
Republicans voted overwhelmingly in favor of the disapproval resolution, by 233 to 1. In contrast, 174 House Republicans, including many fiscally conservative Tea Party-aligned lawmakers, voted in favor of last year’s budget deal that included the hike.
I hope it was worth it — who knows, their constituents may not see the distinction demonstrated by a meaningless vote against the de facto authority you already granted — I certainly don’t.
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The War TARDIS Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:41:33pm |
This little bit of misery is getting worse.
Me and my sister do not get along. I don’t know who her friends were.
You can see where this is going.
Me and this close friend of mine went to the same high school as my little sister and, well…
Damnit I am not getting a decent sleep tonight.
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dog philosopher Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:45:04pm |
re: #60 ProLifeLiberal
strength, man. family can be the most difficult - mine was a trip and something i wouldn’t with on anybody
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The War TARDIS Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:46:39pm |
re: #61 engineer dog
I didn’t even realize my sister knew and liked this poor girl.
Knowing this now makes it worse.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Thu, Jan 19, 2012 1:36:52am |
Took me a while to warm to Steven Colbert’s style, but what he is doing with this super-PAC storyline transcends humor and political satire: he is finally explaining to us in very clear terms what a load of sh*t the Citizen’s United decision truly was.
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Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Thu, Jan 19, 2012 2:54:21am |
A human head was found inside a bag on a hiking trail below the Hollywood sign on Tuesday afternoon, reports the L.A. Times. Los Angeles police detectives are said to be looking for additional body parts in the area.
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RogueOne Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:33:44am |
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:37:53am |
re: #65 Obdicut
[Link: www.scpr.org…]
Hands and feet have also showed up, probably from the same incident, though one must keep a skeptical approach.
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Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:38:48am |
re: #69 Decatur Deb
Probably someone saw the report of the severed head, and realized it was a great opportunity for them to get rid of those hands and feet that were cluttering up the Vanagon.
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RogueOne Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:39:26am |
re: #68 rwdflynavy
I’m having a good chuckle at Slumbering B’s expense. You?
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rwdflynavy Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:40:10am |
re: #71 RogueOne
I’m having a good chuckle at Slumbering B’s expense. You?
Reading about Pakistan for my Pakistan-Afghanistan Regional Study. Good Times.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:40:40am |
Two drunks find a severed head lying near the railroad tracks:
First drunk: “hey, that looks loke our friend, Eddie!”
Second drunk: “No way, Eddie was a lot taller than that!”
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:40:47am |
re: #70 Obdicut
Probably someone saw the report of the severed head, and realized it was a great opportunity for them to get ride of those hands and feet that were cluttering up the Vanagon.
Another Physical Anthropology class project gone bad.
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Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:43:07am |
re: #74 Decatur Deb
Another Physical Anthropology class project gone bad.
One of the reasons I like the show Misfits so much is that they keep accidentally murdering people. Those poor kids just can’t stop.
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Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:43:34am |
re: #75 RogueOne
Is it really so hard to just type out “Pakistani”?
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rwdflynavy Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:44:28am |
re: #77 Obdicut
Is it really so hard to just type out “Pakistani”?
But not Afghani, that’s the currency. The people are Afghans.
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RogueOne Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:46:45am |
re: #78 rwdflynavy
I fixed it once, I’m not doing it again. I hope any resident afghans aren’t sensitive.
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rwdflynavy Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:48:46am |
re: #79 RogueOne
I fixed it once, I’m not doing it again. I hope any resident afghans aren’t sensitive.
Just don’t call me late to dinner.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:51:41am |
re: #78 rwdflynavy
But not Afghani, that’s the currency. The people are Afghans.
Got a suspicion most don’t call themselves Afghan or Afghani, part of our problem.
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Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:53:31am |
re: #81 Decatur Deb
Got a suspicion most don’t call themselves Afghan or Afghani, part of our problem.
One of my favorite moments of idiocy was some group clamoring to change the common name of the Killer Whale to the Orca, since Killer Whale is pejorative and makes them seem murderous.
Orca means “god of death”.
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rwdflynavy Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:53:40am |
re: #81 Decatur Deb
Got a suspicion most don’t call themselves Afghan or Afghani, part of our problem.
Depends, but you are correct. One of the big problems in that part of the world is the British Durand line dividing Afghanistan and Pakistan. A great description I heard was drawing a line down the middle of Scotland and declaring 2 countries. The Pashtun tribes don’t view the line as legitimate or the 2 countries as the correct structure. That is slowly beginning to change.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:57:58am |
Kuwait was also once a province of Iraq, the British just carved it out and set it up as a British protectorate so they would have a political presence there.
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rwdflynavy Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:00:03am |
re: #84 ralphieboy
Kuwait was also once a province of Iraq, the British just carved it out and set it up as a British protectorate so they would have a political presence there.
We had a speaker earlier this year who said you can tell a lot about a country by the borders. If they are set to rivers or other naturally occuring boundaries, they tend to be more settled and stable. Those with straight lines imposed “willy nilly” by foreign powers, not so much.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:02:06am |
re: #85 rwdflynavy
We had a speaker earlier this year who said you can tell a lot about a country by the borders. If they are set to rivers or other naturally occuring boundaries, they tend to be more settled and stable. Those with straight lines imposed “willy nilly” by foreign powers, not so much.
You mean like the US and Canada?
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rwdflynavy Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:02:22am |
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:06:06am |
Perhaps the most effective national groupings should be soccer leagues and football conferences. I want to be SEC ambassador to the Pac 10.
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rwdflynavy Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:09:02am |
re: #88 Decatur Deb
Perhaps the most effective national groupings should be soccer leagues and football conferences. I want to be SEC ambassador to the Pac 10.
Until there is some sort of play-off setup for NCAA football, I just can’t take them seriously as a form of government.
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Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:11:25am |
re: #84 ralphieboy
Kuwait was also once a province of Iraq, the British just carved it out and set it up as a British protectorate so they would have a political presence there.
The list of countries the UK fucked up during their brief empire is huge.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:12:42am |
re: #90 Obdicut
The list of countries the UK fucked up during their brief empire is huge.
They would insist that they were merely “spreading civilization”. White man’s burden and all, you know…
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Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:16:45am |
re: #91 ralphieboy
If you break into a guy’s house and install full plumbing with solar panels to power a hot water boiler, but also take a shit on his head and stab his kid in the face, he’s probably still going to be pissed at you.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:19:50am |
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:21:12am |
re: #91 ralphieboy
They would insist that they were merely “spreading civilization”. White man’s burden and all, you know…
We were white enough in County Mayo, and it didn’t seem that brief.
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Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:23:59am |
re: #94 Decatur Deb
Very few people realize just how many Irish got killed by the British over time, through a wide panoply of means.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:28:16am |
re: #95 Obdicut
The British even killed the Panoplysians.
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rwdflynavy Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:31:20am |
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:33:48am |
re: #96 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The British even killed the Panoplysians.
Phucydides wrote a book about that war.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:34:56am |
We come in peace…shoot to kill…shoot to kill…shoot to kill…
-Star Trekkin’ Across the Universe
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rwdflynavy Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:39:34am |
re: #100 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We come in peace…shoot to kill…shoot to kill…shoot to kill…
-Star Trekkin’ Across the Universe
You’re such a nerd.
//
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:43:09am |
re: #101 Decatur Deb
Daylight come…BBL.
An Old West Army Colonel happens upon his Native American Scout who’s listening to the ground. Slowly the Scout raises his head and solemnly says, “Buffalo come.”
The Colonel says, “What the white man could learn from you people. Your knowledge and command of the land. Your oneness with nature. You have such finely tuned senses over the centuries. How do you know that buffalo come?”
The Scout wipes off his cheek and says, “Face sticky.”
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:45:08am |
re: #102 rwdflynavy
Someone had just posted that on a completely unrelated topic on my Facebook.
Thought it worked here.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Thu, Jan 19, 2012 4:59:16am |
re: #92 Obdicut
If you break into a guy’s house and install full plumbing with solar panels to power a hot water boiler, but also take a shit on his head and stab his kid in the face, he’s probably still going to be pissed at you.
and what have the Romans ever given us in return?
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thedopefishlives Thu, Jan 19, 2012 5:12:03am |
Morning Lizardim. This morning greeted me with -11 degrees F (-24 degrees C) air temperatures, with wind chills down to -27 degrees F (-33 degrees C). That’s brisk, baby.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 5:16:20am |
Paula Deen got “the sugars”. Didn’t see that coming.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 5:17:46am |
re: #106 thedopefishlives
Tha’s cold, right there.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Jan 19, 2012 5:19:06am |
re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Tha’s cold, right there.
Oh yeah. And today’s high is barely supposed to break 0 degrees F (-18 degrees C). Then it’s supposed to snow tomorrow. Then it just gets weird.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 5:25:05am |
re: #109 thedopefishlives
Oh yeah. And today’s high is barely supposed to break 0 degrees F (-18 degrees C). Then it’s supposed to snow tomorrow. Then it just gets weird.
We have tundra in America. WE JUST DON’T FUCKING LIVE THERE!
-Sam Kinison (paraphrased)
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Eventual Carrion Thu, Jan 19, 2012 5:26:53am |
re: #73 ralphieboy
Two drunks find a severed head lying near the railroad tracks:
First drunk: “hey, that looks loke our friend, Eddie!”
Second drunk: “No way, Eddie was a lot taller than that!”
Oooh, I know another one that is even worse. The punchline is “No, I never found that.”
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Thu, Jan 19, 2012 5:31:47am |
Same two drunks
“Phew it smells, did you take a dump in your pants?”
“No,” replies the second drunk.
“It really smells - drop your trousers!”
Second drunk drops his trousers, there is an enormous turd in them.
“I thought you said you hadn’t shit your trousers!” exclaims the first drunk.
“These arent my trousers” replies the second drunk
(alternative punchline: “Oh, I thought you meant today!”)
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leftynyc Thu, Jan 19, 2012 5:32:24am |
re: #44 ProLifeLiberal
Ok, in order to try an not be miserable, I’m watching a review from the Nostalgia Critic. This one on Moulin Rouge. He says the movie was awful (Twilight-class awful, in his opinion maybe worse). I never saw the whole thing.
How bad was it?
Bad enough I couldn’t sit through it - and I did sit through Twilight.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Jan 19, 2012 5:32:38am |
re: #110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We have tundra in America. WE JUST DON’T FUCKING LIVE THERE!
-Sam Kinison (paraphrased)
I actually have to laugh, whenever I call home and tell my parents how cold it is, my mom just shakes her head and asks forlornly how she raised such a strange child.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Thu, Jan 19, 2012 5:33:15am |
re: #113 leftynyc
Bad enough I couldn’t sit through it - and I did sit through Twilight.
I saw enough in the previews to convince me not to touch it.
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Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Jan 19, 2012 5:45:29am |
re: #112 ralphieboy
Bubba was found dead in a ditch, and the sheriff called Bubba’s two best friends, Earl and Leroy, to identify the body.
Earl said, “Turn him over.”
Leroy said, “That ain’t Bubba. This guy only has one asshole, and Bubba had two assholes.”
The sheriff said, “How do you know that?”
Earl said, “Cause everywhere we went, folks said ‘There goes Bubba with them two assholes.’”
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:00:20am |
re: #113 leftynyc
Bad enough I couldn’t sit through it - and I did sit through Twilight.
In retrospect, I’ve often wondered if my ex-wife’s taste in movies was actually a very deliberate postmodernist expression of contempt for the art form.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:07:12am |
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:10:09am |
Good morning to the Lizard World.
A crisp 23 F in Philadelphia, but clear and sunny (as always).
Any predictions on what the next Super-Pac ad will be?
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:17:56am |
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:24:55am |
And regarding _Moulin Rouge!_, it’s an oddity. A western film trying to do the Bollywood thing, and using a pile of pop music for the tunes. So you get an over-the-top plot (cast in turn of the 20th century Paris of all things), constant musical numbers, and a score that is essentially obsolete and dated from the get-go.
I remember very little of it from the one viewing other than the tango version of “Roxanne” which I thought was a fairly original take on the song.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:25:33am |
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:33:56am |
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Petero1818 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:36:42am |
re: #120 Varek Raith
I am curious to see who will pick up his 6%. If Santorum can get them he will be in a real horse race with Gingrich for the alternative. If Gingrich swings them, Santorum will drop out the day after SC. If that happens, either way I think the Christian right stays home. I don’t think they can embrace any of Gingrich, Romney or Paul. No matter what they say in public.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:40:23am |
re: #124 Petero1818
I am curious to see who will pick up his 6%. If Santorum can get them he will be in a real horse race with Gingrich for the alternative. If Gingrich swings them, Santorum will drop out the day after SC. If that happens, either way I think the Christian right stays home. I don’t think they can embrace any of Gingrich, Romney or Paul. No matter what they say in public.
I don’t know. At least one of my evangelical friends has thrown his support behind Newt. I wouldn’t say it’s over until it’s over.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:41:06am |
re: #124 Petero1818
I am curious to see who will pick up his 6%. If Santorum can get them he will be in a real horse race with Gingrich for the alternative. If Gingrich swings them, Santorum will drop out the day after SC. If that happens, either way I think the Christian right stays home. I don’t think they can embrace any of Gingrich, Romney or Paul. No matter what they say in public.
Supporting Santorum also gives them the escape hatch of claiming he wasn’t Protestant enough when he loses.
//
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:43:02am |
Morning all!
Is life back to normal?
How are you doing?
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SpaceJesus Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:43:39am |
re: #120 Varek Raith
Romney will get like a 1% boost, the rest divide his votes equally
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:44:42am |
re: #127 ggt
Morning all!
Is life back to normal?
How are you doing?
Work work work, and I think I’m going to make some sausage bean soup tonight.
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Petero1818 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:47:41am |
re: #126 oaktree
Supporting Santorum also gives them the escape hatch of claiming he wasn’t Protestant enough when he loses.
//
they’ll call him the “Papist Patsy”.//
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:47:44am |
Today in my part of the world.
I was in the City yesterday. It was beautiful. Clear, crisp, and Sunny. Nothing like Chicago in the Winter!
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:49:11am |
re: #129 oaktree
Work work work, and I think I’m going to make some sausage bean soup tonight.
Hubby got a new Pressure Cooker for xmas. He was going thru recipes last night trying to decide what kind of soup he is going to make. I think he decided on Pasta Fagioli.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:49:41am |
re: #131 ggt
Today in my part of the world.
I was in the City yesterday. It was beautiful. Clear, crisp, and Sunny. Nothing like Chicago in the Winter!
I dunno. I’ve been in Chicago in the winter, and comparing it to the view outside my office window right now, there’s just something about the crispness of the frigid northern air.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:50:24am |
re: #133 thedopefishlives
I dunno. I’ve been in Chicago in the winter, and comparing it to the view outside my office window right now, there’s just something about the crispness of the frigid northern air.
I have horrible allergies. I love winter air!
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:51:21am |
re: #133 thedopefishlives
I dunno. I’ve been in Chicago in the winter, and comparing it to the view outside my office window right now, there’s just something about the crispness of the frigid northern air.
I forget where you are, forgive me.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:51:52am |
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:52:17am |
re: #136 thedopefishlives
Downtown St. Paul, Minnesota.
ooooohhhh!
Hubby and I want to retire in your neck of the woods.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:53:45am |
re: #137 ggt
ooohhh!
Hubby and I want to retire in your neck of the woods.
It’s a beautiful place up here, I love it. As mentioned upthread, my parents think I’m a freak because I enjoy the cold, but even they’ve grown to love their annual summer fishing vacation to a lakeside cabin in northern Minnesota.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:53:48am |
Brat Puppy has been sneaking up behind Old Man Dog and biting his tail. Extreme doggy wrestling is the result.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:54:14am |
re: #138 thedopefishlives
It’s a beautiful place up here, I love it. As mentioned upthread, my parents think I’m a freak because I enjoy the cold, but even they’ve grown to love their annual summer fishing vacation to a lakeside cabin in northern Minnesota.
I don’t think you are a freak. I don’t do heat. I totally understand.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:54:53am |
re: #140 ggt
I don’t think you are a freak. I don’t do heat. I totally understand.
I do have my limits. My wife wants to take me out on the lake to go ice fishing. That’s a bit too much cold even for me.
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:55:11am |
re: #124 Petero1818
I am curious to see who will pick up his 6%. If Santorum can get them he will be in a real horse race with Gingrich for the alternative. If Gingrich swings them, Santorum will drop out the day after SC. If that happens, either way I think the Christian right stays home. I don’t think they can embrace any of Gingrich, Romney or Paul. No matter what they say in public.
Maybe we’ll get really lucky and God will tell Santorum to go third party and Paul won’t.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:55:22am |
re: #141 thedopefishlives
I do have my limits. My wife wants to take me out on the lake to go ice fishing. That’s a bit too much cold even for me.
I wouldn’ fish anywhere.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:55:49am |
re: #142 wlewisiii
Maybe we’ll get really lucky and God will tell Santorum to go third party and Paul won’t.
Does he understand the Vatican wouldn’t endorse him?
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:57:15am |
re: #141 thedopefishlives
I do have my limits. My wife wants to take me out on the lake to go ice fishing. That’s a bit too much cold even for me.
I never understood ice fishing. To get ice you had it available domestically in the ice tray and I don’t see wild ice as being that much superior in flavor. And even if it wasn’t on hand it is easy to purchase some in the store.
;)
I suspect that it’s a cultural thing like hunting. You get it and have all the gear and thus do it. Or you don’t.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:57:24am |
Ok, WTF?
My bluetooth quit working for my audio books on my iPhone. It works for the phone part, but not the iPod part.
WHY?
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:58:39am |
re: #138 thedopefishlives
It’s a beautiful place up here, I love it. As mentioned upthread, my parents think I’m a freak because I enjoy the cold, but even they’ve grown to love their annual summer fishing vacation to a lakeside cabin in northern Minnesota.
We’re moving to Northern Wisconsin from Madison once the foreclosure sheriff’s sale is completed. Beautiful up there in the north woods, especially if you like fishing or hunting and can find the places the touristas don’t know about.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:59:35am |
re: #145 oaktree
I suspect that it’s a cultural thing like hunting. You get it and have all the gear and thus do it. Or you don’t.
Probably. All the crazy Scandinavian folk up here have elaborate rigs for ice fishing. They map out entire ice communities, like subdivisions; they have parking lots for the trucks, and everything. It’s ridiculous.
And every year, some poor sucker winds up waiting just a little bit too long to get his ice house off the lake, and his truck goes in the water and he makes the evening news.
One rather random extra fact: After a certain point in the year, any ice houses remaining on the lake become free-for-all. If you can get it off the lake without becoming the aforementioned sucker on the evening news, it’s yours.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:04:10am |
re: #146 ggt
Ok, WTF?
My bluetooth quit working for my audio books on my iPhone. It works for the phone part, but not the iPod part.
WHY?
You have angered the Ghost of Steve Jobs.
A sacrifice is needed to appease him.
Toss a PC into a volcano.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:04:12am |
re: #148 thedopefishlives
Probably. All the crazy Scandinavian folk up here have elaborate rigs for ice fishing. They map out entire ice communities, like subdivisions; they have parking lots for the trucks, and everything. It’s ridiculous.
And every year, some poor sucker winds up waiting just a little bit too long to get his ice house off the lake, and his truck goes in the water and he makes the evening news.
One rather random extra fact: After a certain point in the year, any ice houses remaining on the lake become free-for-all. If you can get it off the lake without becoming the aforementioned sucker on the evening news, it’s yours.
I think I picked this up from Gaiman’s _American Gods_, but isn’t there a town/city up that way that puts a junk car out on the ice and then has a pool on what date it falls through?
Probably done by more than one.
And I’ve related before that when living in northern NY state on the St Lawrence River there were recurring events of carloads of Mohawk Indians taking unscheduled swims of that nature since once the river froze they bypassed using the bridge and drove across the ice between the sections of the St Regis Reservation.
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thedopefishlives Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:06:41am |
re: #150 oaktree
I don’t know about that, but I do know that the snowmobilers around these parts take part in a (highly dangerous and, I believe, illegal) competition every year where they try to race their snowmobiles across an open channel of water. They will stay on the surface as long as you keep the throttle wide open and the channel is iced over enough, but if conditions are poor or if you lose your nerve, you’re in the drink. And I believe people have died doing it.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:10:15am |
re: #150 oaktree
I think I picked this up from Gaiman’s _American Gods_, but isn’t there a town/city up that way that puts a junk car out on the ice and then has a pool on what date it falls through?
Probably done by more than one.
And I’ve related before that when living in northern NY state on the St Lawrence River there were recurring events of carloads of Mohawk Indians taking unscheduled swims of that nature since once the river froze they bypassed using the bridge and drove across the ice between the sections of the St Regis Reservation.
That was one of the most bizarre books I’ve ever read.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:10:47am |
re: #149 Varek Raith
You have angered the Ghost of Steve Jobs.
A sacrifice is needed to appease him.
Toss a PC into a volcano.
Not possible, I was this week at the Apple Store spending money.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:12:40am |
re: #153 ggt
Not possible, I was this week at the Apple Store spending money.
Ah, then it’s worse.
The Demon of Bill Gates has possessed your phone.
You must perform an exorcism.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:13:54am |
So - Romney’s going to save America from the evil-doer Obama because of his business acumen, right?
Mitt Romney, who makes his hands-on business experience a talking point in his campaign for the Republican presidential nomination, was a member of the board of directors and audit committee of a global company when it paid millions of dollars to settle charges of extracting kickbacks that cheated clients.
As a board member, Romney held oversight responsibilities at a time when Marriott was repeatedly accused of obtaining secret rebates that enriched Marriott, at the expense of hotel owners who had contracted with Marriott to run the hotels on their behalf. A series of owners also accused Marriott of falsifying financial statements to owners to conceal the arrangements—charges that Marriott had denied.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:17:25am |
So many members of Congress are now bailing on SOPA and PIPA.
Good.
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abolitionist Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:19:40am |
re: #154 Varek Raith
Ah, then it’s worse.
The Demon of Bill Gates has possessed your phone.
You must perform an exorcism.
No doubt there’s an app for that.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:20:21am |
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:23:54am |
re: #156 Varek Raith
So many members of Congress are now bailing on SOPA and PIPA.
Good.
Good segment on Maddow’s show.
MSNBC Video
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:32:14am |
re: #156 Varek Raith
So many members of Congress are now bailing on SOPA and PIPA.
Good.
My sole question is whether these Congressmen are simply reacting to popular backlash and running cover while already knowing what the legislation was going to do, or they were ignorant of the legislation and finally took a look due to the backlash. (More likely that they are just reacting to advice from a staffer either way.)
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thedopefishlives Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:35:15am |
re: #160 oaktree
My sole question is whether these Congressmen are simply reacting to popular backlash and running cover while already knowing what the legislation was going to do, or they were ignorant of the legislation and finally took a look due to the backlash. (More likely that they are just reacting to advice from a staffer either way.)
Most likely the first, unfortunately. Politicians seem to be fiercely protective of the copyright monopolies in this country. Whether it be because of the money, or because they truly don’t understand copyright, I have yet to figure out.
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abolitionist Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:35:50am |
re: #159 Varek Raith
Good segment on Maddow’s show.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com…]
What ggt said — multiple up-dings if I could!
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:36:02am |
re: #160 oaktree
My sole question is whether these Congressmen are simply reacting to popular backlash and running cover while already knowing what the legislation was going to do, or they were ignorant of the legislation and finally took a look due to the backlash. (More likely that they are just reacting to advice from a staffer either way.)
They want power and will wait until they can get it without pissing off the constituency.
Make no mistake, if they could take control of the intertoobs they would.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:43:18am |
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:44:19am |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:46:45am |
Israel detains 3 Gaza ‘infiltrators’: army
Israeli forces arrested three Palestinians overnight as they tried to enter Israel from the southern Gaza Strip, a military spokesman said on Thursday.
“Late last night, three men approached the border fence from southern Gaza to infiltrate into Israel. They were picked up by troops immediately after they crossed,” a military spokesman said.
“We found a fragmentation grenade on one of the men. They were detained and held for questioning.”
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:52:17am |
I have to go get my Mommy and take her places.
Have a great day all!
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Jerk Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:53:29am |
Hey guys, guess who called Rick Perry dropping out next three days ago?
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The War TARDIS Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:56:11am |
The story of the sinking of the Costa Concordia is getting weirder:
Costa Concordia: investigators probe role of young Moldovan woman on cruise ship
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thedopefishlives Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:56:39am |
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Jerk Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:00:54am |
Regarding my statement, I saw that it wasn’t talked about yet.
Rick Perry to end presidential candidacy, expected to endorse Newt Gingrich
He’s in such a weak position that everyone has been suggesting it.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:02:01am |
What left wing antisemitism?
Center for American Progress, group tied to Obama, under fire from Israel advocates
The Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank closely aligned with the White House, is embroiled in a dispute with several major Jewish organizations over statements on Israel and charges that some center staffers have used anti-Semitic language to attack pro-Israel Americans.
…
The White House official, Jarrod Bernstein, told Cooper that the situation at CAP was “troubling,” adding “that is not this administration.”A White House spokesman, Matt Lehrich, declined to comment on CAP. He said Obama “has repeatedly reiterated America’s unshakable commitment to Israel’s security and stood up against attempts to single out Israel in international forums.” He added that the administration has “ratcheted up unprecedented pressure on Iran.”
Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, said some of the statements from CAP staffers “are anti-Semitic and borderline anti-Semitic.”
“We’re concerned about it because this is a serious think tank, and it does influence the administration,” Foxman added. CAP is run by “serious people who need to take control of their entities.”
Jason Isaacson, an official with the American Jewish Committee, which often collaborates on policy issues with CAP, pointed to “very troubling things that have been written on a pretty regular basis by certain people associated with the organization.”
“For any serious policy center there are certain lines of fairness and objectivity and good sense that should not be crossed, and yet, disturbingly, those lines have regularly been crossed,” Isaacson added.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:05:27am |
re: #173 Killgore Trout
and this is why (among other reasons) I stopped reading Think Progress….
Officials from the center counter that the “inappropriate” language came only in personal tweets from staffers — not on CAP’s Web site or its Think Progress blog. The tweets were deleted and the authors apologized.
Officials said the center is staunchly pro-Israel.
“The clear and overwhelming record of the literally hundreds of articles and policy papers from the Center for American Progress and ThinkProgress demonstrates our longstanding support both for Israel and the two-state solution to the Middle East Peace Process as being in the moral and national security interests of the United States,” wrote Ken Gude , chief of staff and vice president for CAP, in an e-mail response to questions from The Post.
“We have a zero-tolerance policy for racism, sexism, anti-Semitism or any form of discrimination,” Gude wrote.
They hire antisemitic staffers but they’re supposed to hide their views in “official” tweets and posts. I don’t find that comforting.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:07:54am |
Saving the Iranians again…
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:14:54am |
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:15:54am |
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:19:19am |
re: #174 Killgore Trout
We have a zero-tolerance policy for racism, sexism, anti-Semitism or any form of discrimination,” Gude wrote.
So Mr. Gude ,, the offending parties were disciplined ,,,, how??
oh ,,, wait ,, I see
The tweets were deleted and the authors apologized.
Well then,, all is right!
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:21:37am |
re: #178 sattv4u2
Yeah, I had that prediction going back to January 4 (after the Iowa caucus, and thought that he’d drop out even before Bachmann).
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:23:03am |
re: #141 thedopefishlives
I do have my limits. My wife wants to take me out on the lake to go ice fishing. That’s a bit too much cold even for me.
Troubling thing is, she wants you to do that in July!!
/
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:25:46am |
re: #173 Killgore Trout
What left wing antisemitism?
Center for American Progress, group tied to Obama, under fire from Israel advocates
Shocka!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:29:13am |
re: #183 NJDhockeyfan
Shocka!
There was another story a few months ago about some consultant who previously worked for AIPAC and took a job with a liberal think tank (I think it might have been CAP. He was a self described progressive liberal but the lefties were outraged by his hiring because he was and “israel-firster” with dual loyalties.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:35:47am |
re: #184 Killgore Trout
There was another story a few months ago about some consultant who previously worked for AIPAC and took a job with a liberal think tank (I think it might have been CAP. He was a self described progressive liberal but the lefties were outraged by his hiring because he was and “israel-firster” with dual loyalties.
There was a recent story about a week and a half ago about an editor-in-chief at ThinkProgress sending anti-Semitic emails.
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blueraven Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:39:11am |
re: #185 NJDhockeyfan
There was a recent story about a week and a half ago about an editor-in-chief at ThinkProgress sending anti-Semitic emails.
link?
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Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:40:43am |
re: #118 thedopefishlives
TPM: Iowa GOP finds Rick Santorum won by 34 votes, declares a “split decision”
Is this some sort of new math? How does someone win a split decision in a state caucus? WTF.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:40:50am |
re: #186 blueraven
link?
E-mail reveals anti-Semitism at US think tank
A senior employee of the US think tank Center for American Progress (CAP) appears to have admitted in an e-mail sent from his CAP account that a blogger for the policy organization used anti-Semitic language to attack supporters of the Jewish state.
CAP advises the Democratic Party on Middle East policy and is an important source of ideas for the Obama administration.
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kirkspencer Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:44:14am |
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:49:21am |
re: #190 kirkspencer
“Israel-firster” is anti-Semitic?
ummm. ok.
Yep. Don’t you know? EVERY Lefty in the whole wide world is a raving anti-Semite. KT decided that, so it must be true!!!11ty!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:50:14am |
re: #188 NJDhockeyfan
Interesting, I thought it might be a story about the same guy as my link. It’s pretty clear they have problem.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:50:27am |
Came up with fantastic nickname for the captain of that ship.
With apologies to Stephen King? We should call him “Captain Tripps”!
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rwdflynavy Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:51:06am |
re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Came up with fantastic nickname for the captain of that ship.
With apologies to Stephen King? We should call him “Captain Tripps”!
I prefer Chicken of the Sea.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:53:20am |
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:53:27am |
Another unhatched registrant visits:
indigo27
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Registered since: Apr 16, 2008 at 5:23 pm
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:53:51am |
re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Came up with fantastic nickname for the captain of that ship.
With apologies to Stephen King? We should call him “Captain Tripps”!
His excuse was just pathetic.
I wasn’t having sex with your wife, she tripped!
Honest!
/
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blueraven Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:55:02am |
re: #191 wlewisiii
Yep. Don’t you know? EVERY Lefty in the whole wide world is a raving anti-Semite. KT decided that, so it must be true!!!11ty!
Is it so surprising that left leaning Americans are somewhat disapproving of a right wing Israeli government?
I wouldn’t use the term “Israeli firsters” and I dont like it. But I think ascribing antisemitism to everyone who has issues with the policy of Netanyahu is a mistake.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:56:08am |
Netanyahu is a verifiable wingnut.
He supports Glenn Beck FFS.
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blueraven Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:57:31am |
re: #200 Varek Raith
Netanyahu is a verifiable wingnut.
He supports Glenn Beck FFS.
And reportedly he is speaking at an Anti-Obama rally later this year.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:58:02am |
re: #172 Jerk
Regarding my statement, I saw that it wasn’t talked about yet.
Rick Perry to end presidential candidacy, expected to endorse Newt Gingrich
He’s in such a weak position that everyone has been suggesting it.
Scary thought. A Gingrich/Perry ticket. Almost enough to make me not feel sick to my stomach when I think about Romney as the nominee.
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The War TARDIS Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:58:35am |
re: #201 blueraven
And yet, KT thinks we shouldn’t say a word about him or Avigdor Lieberman.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:59:02am |
MINNEAPOLIS — A traveler from Valrico concealed a camera inside a book and surreptitiously recorded men at an airport urinal, authorities said Wednesday.
…
It occurred in the same restroom where former U.S. Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, was arrested in 2007 and accused of soliciting sex from an undercover police officer, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported.
tampabay.com
Heh.
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:59:06am |
re: #198 Varek Raith
We’ve got a meme/ hashtag in the works - #tripping!
So, you were into an open marriage Newt? A: She’s #tripping that I’d #tripping my way into that!
Gov. Perry, so you thought you had a chance to win the nomination? A: I was #tripping; of course I had a chance. It wasn’t a big chance. Infinitesimal really, but it was a chance. /and yeah, I realize that infinitesimal is probably not in Perry’s vocabulary.
Socons are #tripping if they think they’ll win the GOP nomination, let alone with WH in 2012.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:00:21am |
Is the Term ‘Israel-Firster’ Antisemitic?
There’s been a controversy raging over the past month or so that I’ve avoided writing about mainly because it has a Groundhog Day quality to it. It began with this very interesting Ben Smith piece, but lately it has become tiresome. Apparently, it is not tiresome to other pepole, because it just keeps going. The seemingly most urgent question to emerge from this controversy is whether or not the term “Israel-firster” is antisemitic. The term is used by Media Matters, the left-wing advocacy group, to describe American Jews with whom it disagrees on American Middle East policy, and it was also used by staffers of the Center for American Progress, the important liberal think tank, to describe same. CAP has disavowed the language, and apologized on behalf of the staffer who used the term; Media Matters doesn’t seem to care.
So, is “Israel-firster” antisemitic? Its origins are certainly antisemitic, and the idea that Jews are incapable of being loyal to the country of their citizenship and are only loyal to world Jewry, or the Jewish state, is an age-old antisemitic trope. This doesn’t mean that those who use it are antisemitic.
[…]
RTWT.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:00:26am |
re: #197 wrenchwench
I’m feelin’ blue
Just thinkin’ of you
I get out of bed
Wish I was dead
And I hope you do, too
So I have given up
I’ve thrown in the towel
I’ve taken all the pills
The law will allow
And so I’m feelin’ blue…
On second thoughts,
I guess I’m just…
screwed…
-Naked Gun 2 1/2
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:00:35am |
re: #208 Killgore Trout
I think i’ll find other things to do.
Yes, you should.
It’s fucking stupid of you to call anyone here what you just did.
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The War TARDIS Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:01:12am |
re: #211 Varek Raith
Thank you for saying that.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:01:43am |
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Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:02:20am |
re: #200 Varek Raith
Netanyahu is a verifiable wingnut.
He supports Glenn Beck FFS.
But pointing that out makes you an anti-Semite, apparently.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:02:52am |
re: #190 kirkspencer
“Israel-firster” is anti-Semitic?
ummm. ok.
I’d say that it’s borderline anti-Semitic.
Characterizing “the left” as in any way significantly anti-Semitic, IMO, is ludicrous. Been a leftist all my life, raised in a lefty community, active in lefty politics. Can’t think of every hearing an anti-Jewish statement, although I’ve heard much criticism of the Israeli right. And I’d remember, because I’m Jewish.
Next, Killgore will link to articles proving that “the left” supports rapes and stabbings.
Same old, same old.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:03:10am |
Hands, Feet Found Near Severed Head in Hollywood Hills
HOLLYWOOD, Calif. (KTLA) — Investigators searching a hiking area near the Hollywood Sign have discovered a pair of hands and two feet not far from where a severed human head was found.
Investigators have been combing Bronson Canyon Park inch-by-inch since the initial discovery by two dog walkers on Tuesday near the 3200 block of Canyon Drive.
One of the dog walkers told reporters that two of the dogs started playing with an object they found in a plastic bag.
They took a closer look and realized the object was a human head.
Authorities hoped to wrap up their search on Thursday. They had about seven acres of the park to cover.
On Wednesday, investigators using cadaver dogs recovered two hands and two feet.
Yikes!
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Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:04:05am |
re: #209 wrenchwench
Is the Term ‘Israel-Firster’ Antisemitic?
RTWT.
It’s not anti-Semitic but it’s not accurate either. You can be pro-Israel without putting Israel ahead of the U.S., Canada, U.K. or whatever country you happen to be a citizen of, unless it’s Israel, of course. Being pro-Israel does not automatically mean that you put everything else second. That is what “Israel-firster” implies.
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Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:05:47am |
It also used to be that “Israel-firster” was a favorite epithet of the paleocons (like Puke Cannon).
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:06:51am |
re: #214 Lidane
But pointing that out makes you an anti-Semite, apparently.
I don’t get. I really don’t.
If you have crazy beliefs/think Glenn Beck is ok/going to attend an anti-Obama rally with some really nasty sponsors, your country of origin should not shield you from valid criticism.
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kirkspencer Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:08:46am |
re: #209 wrenchwench
Is the Term ‘Israel-Firster’ Antisemitic?
RTWT.
Thank you. Now that I know I’ll refrain from the term.
Actually I never used it. But it has always bothered me when people are so rabidly supportive of ‘their team’ that it can do no wrong in their minds, EVER. I’ve used America-firsters and so thought the x-firster term carried the same connotation.
Guess I’ll have to come up with a different term, one that means what I want it to mean. Be overjoyed if someone can make a good suggestion.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:10:37am |
re: #210 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I’m feelin’ blue
Just thinkin’ of you
I get out of bed
Wish I was dead
And I hope you do, too
So I have given up
I’ve thrown in the towel
I’ve taken all the pills
The law will allow
And so I’m feelin’ blue…
I guess I’m just…
screwed…Youtube Video
-Naked Gun 2 1/2
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:12:32am |
re: #220 kirkspencer
Thank you. Now that I know I’ll refrain from the term.
Actually I never used it. But it has always bothered me when people are so rabidly supportive of ‘their team’ that it can do no wrong in their minds, EVER. I’ve used America-firsters and so thought the x-firster term carried the same connotation.
Guess I’ll have to come up with a different term, one that means what I want it to mean. Be overjoyed if someone can make a good suggestion.
Safest thing is to avoid putting people in a category. Deal with the particular issue with the particular person, and say what your difference with their opinion is. Categories can be handy and easy, and wrong.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:13:06am |
re: #220 kirkspencer
Guess I’ll have to come up with a different term, one that means what I want it to mean. Be overjoyed if someone can make a good suggestion.
Sane??
/(kinda)
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kirkspencer Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:13:26am |
re: #222 wrenchwench
Safest thing is to avoid putting people in a category. Deal with the particular issue with the particular person, and say what your difference with their opinion is. Categories can be handy and easy, and wrong.
So instead of saying Palin is a RWNJ, I should spend a few paragraphs…?
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:13:35am |
Sigh, now I’m mad.
I like our allies around the world.
Any disagreements I may have with their leadership are constructive and not based on hate.
Sigh.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:16:20am |
re: #224 kirkspencer
So instead of saying Palin is a RWNJ, I should spend a few paragraphs…?
If you’re concerned about offending her supporters, yes. Otherwise, don’t bother. (I said they can be wrong, not that they always are.)
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:16:35am |
Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow was so seriously injured in Saturday’s playoff loss to the New England Patriots that he probably wouldn’t have been able to play in this weekend’s conference final had the Broncos won, according to news reports.
Tebow suffered torn cartilage where his first rib attaches to his sternum, a bruised lung and fluid buildup in the pleural cavity, the space between the lungs and the membrane that surrounds them, ESPN first reported, citing an NFL source.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:18:55am |
re: #227 Varek Raith
That must be why his passes were an abomination unto the Lord.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:19:39am |
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:21:37am |
re: #228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That must be why his passes were an abomination to the Lord.
If it were me with those injuries…
“Screw you guys, I’m going home” would be my response.
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kirkspencer Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:22:00am |
re: #223 sattv4u2
Guess I’ll have to come up with a different term, one that means what I want it to mean. Be overjoyed if someone can make a good suggestion.Sane??
/(kinda)
No, because that has connotations with which I disagree. My team right or wrong, especially when you’re allegedly part of two different teams, is at heart worse than just “I was following orders.” It’s “I was just following my team’s leaders’ suggestions.” And if your team gets a rotten apple in a leadership position, it destroys your credibility.
I have some specific things Israel’s current government supports that I abhor. The fact that the Likud is pushing to go beyond current limits on those things (specific example: settlements. specific example: denial of citizenship to non-jews even if born in area and married to jews.) is to me unacceptable. They are part of the portion of the Likud who say that Arabs are animals who should be given no rights beyond the right to be exterminated.
In other words, it’s a position wholly in line with Geller and Spencer, held as part of the official government position of the state of Israel.
A person who sets Israel as the always-first priority is supporting these positions. I think they’re wrong.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:22:35am |
re: #230 Varek Raith
If it were me with those injuries…
“Screw you guys, I’m going home” would be my response.
The wussiest person in the NFL? Fifty times tougher than me.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:22:44am |
re: #230 Varek Raith
If it were me with those injuries…
“Screw you guys, I’m going home” would be my response.
Followed by the stadium taking a Superlaser shot?
Vengeance thy name is Sith.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:24:04am |
re: #231 kirkspencer
I’d still like it if they’d put the opposing sides in a room with SFZ and Curious Lurker and let them arbitrate.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:24:18am |
re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The wussiest person in the NFL? Fifty times tougher than me.
“Call 911”
“You’re fine you baby”
“Shut up and call 911. I need a medivac chopper.”
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:24:56am |
re: #229 oaktree
He denied the sanctity of The Brady and therefore must be punished.
///
It rubs the lotion on it’s skin…
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:25:41am |
re: #235 Varek Raith
“Call 911”
“You’re fine you baby”
“Shut up and call 911. I need a medivac chopper.”
If you were a corporation a statement like that would attract Mitt Romney and his magic company chipper.
/
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:26:10am |
re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The wussiest person in the NFL? Fifty times tougher than me.
And that includes the ball boys, the ticket takers, and the little old lady that monitors the womens bathroom!
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:26:47am |
re: #238 sattv4u2
And that includes the ball boys, the ticket takers, and the little old lady that monitors the womens bathroom!
The Dallas Cowboys???
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:27:27am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:27:38am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:27:54am |
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:28:52am |
re: #243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Shuddap!
My parents are Redskins fans.
I was born to hate on Dallas.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:28:57am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:30:08am |
re: #245 Varek Raith
My parents are Redskins fans.
I was born to hate on Dallas.
So that makes you a Dolphins fan?
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:30:24am |
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Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:30:26am |
re: #231 kirkspencer
No, because that has connotations with which I disagree. My team right or wrong, especially when you’re allegedly part of two different teams, is at heart worse than just “I was following orders.” It’s “I was just following my team’s leaders’ suggestions.” And if your team gets a rotten apple in a leadership position, it destroys your credibility.
I have some specific things Israel’s current government supports that I abhor. The fact that the Likud is pushing to go beyond current limits on those things (specific example: settlements. specific example: denial of citizenship to non-jews even if born in area and married to jews.) is to me unacceptable. They are part of the portion of the Likud who say that Arabs are animals who should be given no rights beyond the right to be exterminated.
In other words, it’s a position wholly in line with Geller and Spencer, held as part of the official government position of the state of Israel.
A person who sets Israel as the always-first priority is supporting these positions. I think they’re wrong.
I don’t think that everyone who supports Israel is a cheerleader for each and every policy of the ruling government.
Whatever you may think of the recent Supreme Court ruling regarding Israeli citizenship, can you at least agree that each country has the right to determine its own requirements for citizenship? If a Japanese citizen marries a foreign national who is also an Occidental, does that person receive automatic Japanese citizenship? Do you even know, or care, what the requirements are for receiving Japanese citizenship? If Japan deny citizenship to Occidentals or Koreans who marry Japanese, would you get all worked up about it?
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:30:50am |
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Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:31:37am |
re: #251 Varek Raith
Santorum Didn’t Win Iowa By 34 Votes — He Won By 69
Lol.
Someone get Dan Savage on the phone. He’ll love that.
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rwdflynavy Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:32:37am |
re: #245 Varek Raith
My parents are Redskins fans.
I was born to hate on Dallas.
My FIL was a huge Redskins fan. Dressed his two daughters in boys RS apparel (they didn’t have the cute girl stuff back then). Consequence: My wife is a big time Dallas fan.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:33:49am |
re: #253 rwdflynavy
My FIL was a huge Redskins fan. Dressed his two daughters in boys RS apparel (they didn’t have the cute girl stuff back then). Consequence: My wife is a big time Dallas fan.
Your wife is obviously as intelligent as she is lovely.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:33:57am |
I think I found my new backpack.
sportsauthority.com
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:34:11am |
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Petero1818 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:34:48am |
re: #231 kirkspencer
No, because that has connotations with which I disagree. My team right or wrong, especially when you’re allegedly part of two different teams, is at heart worse than just “I was following orders.” It’s “I was just following my team’s leaders’ suggestions.” And if your team gets a rotten apple in a leadership position, it destroys your credibility.
I have some specific things Israel’s current government supports that I abhor. The fact that the Likud is pushing to go beyond current limits on those things (specific example: settlements. specific example: denial of citizenship to non-jews even if born in area and married to jews.) is to me unacceptable. They are part of the portion of the Likud who say that Arabs are animals who should be given no rights beyond the right to be exterminated.
In other words, it’s a position wholly in line with Geller and Spencer, held as part of the official government position of the state of Israel.
A person who sets Israel as the always-first priority is supporting these positions. I think they’re wrong.
I believe that I support many of the same positions you do judging from what you said in this post. But that does not mean that you can’t make Israel a priority. The state of Israel to me is a priority. It’s current government, the electoral system that props up right wing coalitions, the ultra orthodox influence are all things that make me ill to my stomach. My making Israel a priority in no way shows my support for those things any more than your support for the United States meaning that you support Bush, Gingrich or Palin. You are free to believe they are wrong. But my guess is even with them as your President you would make the United States your priority.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:34:48am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:35:08am |
re: #256 negativ
They prefer to be known as The Dallas Cowpersons.
The are known as central America’s Team.
///
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:35:27am |
re: #258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Really? That didn’t work for anybody? One of my favorite “Far Side” cartoons.
Is it the guy rowing on a viking ship?
Lol.
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rwdflynavy Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:36:02am |
re: #258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Really? That didn’t work for anybody? One of my favorite “Far Side” cartoons.
You are now in violation of SOPA/PIPA. Please report to your local Commisar at the nearest train station with a heavy coat and a shovel.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:36:07am |
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:36:56am |
@AngryBlackLady
Say what you will about the intelligence of dogs, but you never see them walking around with a bag of human poop in their paw.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:37:04am |
re: #228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That must be why his passes were an abomination unto the Lord.
Only his second half passes.
His other passes in that game, and for the whole season, were an abomination because the dude can’t pass.
What’s interesting about that is that you’d think that such a talented athlete, with professional coaches, would be able to refine his technique. Just goes to show how specific certain athletic skills set are.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:37:53am |
re: #264 Talking Point Detective
He should be a tight end.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:39:07am |
re: #260 Varek Raith
Is it the guy rowing on a viking ship?
Lol.
“Yoo-hoo! Oh, yoo-hoo! I think I’m getting a blister!”
That is me.
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:39:39am |
I haz a sad. Kodak is chapter 11. Not at all unexpected but damn.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:40:39am |
re: #263 jaunte
@AngryBlackLady
Say what you will about the intelligence of dogs, but you never see them walking around with a bag of human poop in their paw.
Often when I am picking up after my dog, I have one of those “How would an alien visiting the planet interpret this right now” moments.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:43:10am |
I hope I don’t miss this one.
Russell Brand to interview Ringo Starr for Sirius XM Radio
NEW YORK — British actor-comedian Russell Brand will interview former Beatles drummer Ringo Starr for Sirius XM Radio.
“Town Hall With Ringo Starr” will air live from Los Angeles on Jan. 30.
Music producer Don Was will moderate the Q&A, and Starr will perform at the event.
A day later, Starr will release his 17th solo album, “Ringo 2012.”
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kirkspencer Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:43:25am |
re: #250 Alouette
I don’t think that everyone who supports Israel is a cheerleader for each and every policy of the ruling government.
Whatever you may think of the recent Supreme Court ruling regarding Israeli citizenship, can you at least agree that each country has the right to determine its own requirements for citizenship? If a Japanese citizen marries a foreign national who is also an Occidental, does that person receive automatic Japanese citizenship? Do you even know, or care, what the requirements are for receiving Japanese citizenship? If Japanese deny citizenship to Occidentals or Koreans who marry Japanese, would you get all worked up about it?
If a foreigner marries a Japanese citizen, that foreigner has two years to declare which of two citizenships he/she shall have. Japan does not allow dual citizenship in general, but solely due to being born of parents having different citizenships (and then only to the age of 20) or as a transition in cases such as marriage or other integration.
Note that this is a somewhat different situation from the one that gets me in regard to Israel. Not allowing Arabs born outside Israel to have citizenship on marriage might be defensible. Not allowing Arabs born in the areas Israel controls to have citizenship even if they marry Israelis is slightly different.
Would I get all worked up about the Japanese? Frankly, it depends. One reason I get all worked up about Israel is the huge proportion of our strategy that is engaged in maintaining that nation’s existence.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:43:47am |
re: #270 Talking Point Detective
I’m working on a dog food project right now for a brand that sells huge tonnage; can’t help thinking of it as a precursor material for that which will have to be picked up a second time by the buyers.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:45:03am |
re: #269 Rightwingconspirator
I haz a sad. Kodak is chapter 11. Not at all unexpected but damn.
The recording industry should take a lesson. Kodak failed to adapt to changing technology. They had name recognition, and could have used that to take advantage of great new technology.
(I actually have a problem that various small crafts and science projects call for film canisters to be used, and we don’t have any anymore.)
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Petero1818 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:46:10am |
re: #274 EmmmieG
The recording industry should take a lesson. Kodak failed to adapt to changing technology. They had name recognition, and could have used that to take advantage of great new technology.
(I actually have a problem that various small crafts and science projects call for film canisters to be used, and we don’t have any anymore.)
I am pretty sure you could buy some on ebay.
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:46:14am |
re: #269 Rightwingconspirator
I haz a sad. Kodak is chapter 11. Not at all unexpected but damn.
Better that than crapping out and liquidating under Ch. 7. It’s a reorganization, and they hope to try and monetize their huge patent portfolio.
Many of the problems at Kodak stem from mistakes made in the 1980s and 1990s to ignore digital photography, even if they’re the ones who invented the tech. By the time they realized they were on the wrong side of technology, it was too late to break into the camera business.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:46:29am |
Does Iran have a coast guard?
U.S. Navy conducts third rescue of distressed Iranian mariners
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kirkspencer Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:47:47am |
re: #277 jaunte
Does Iran have a coast guard?
U.S. Navy conducts third rescue of distressed Iranian mariners
Does their coast guard operate that far out from the coast? And since the US is in “operations” in that area, are they trying to minimize opportunities for mistakes by maintaining separation?
Dunno, but points worth considering I think.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:49:49am |
The National Enquirer has a scoop on Jesse Jackson:
JESSE JACKSON IS A DEADBEAT DAD!
The mother of JESSE JACKSON’s love child is blasting him as a deadbeat dad for falling behind on child support payments!
In official documents filed with the Los Angeles Superior Court and obtained by The ENQUIRER, Karin Stanford claims the 70-year-old famed civil rights leader owes $11,694.50 for their daughter Ashley, now 12.
Stanford was a top aide with Jackson’s Rainbow PUSHCoalition, and The ENQUIRER exposed their long-term extramarital affair in a bombshell world exclusive in January 2001.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:50:09am |
re: #278 kirkspencer
True, I missed the ‘central Arabian sea’ location.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:50:37am |
re: #278 kirkspencer
That is a very kind “benefit of the doubt”. I’ll go with that.
You gotta admit, sounds like a pretty inept Navy.
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:50:46am |
re: #276 lawhawk
this slow motion crash is just torture for those of us who grew up with Kodak products.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:52:07am |
re: #274 EmmmieG
The recording industry should take a lesson. Kodak failed to adapt to changing technology. They had name recognition, and could have used that to take advantage of great new technology.
(I actually have a problem that various small crafts and science projects call for film canisters to be used, and we don’t have any anymore.)
The funny thing is that it’s gotten to the point that I can interpret from my dog’s body language whether she’s going to shit or piss well before the onset of the event. I know her favored spots for which activity.
I know that inside she’s laughing at how easy it was to train her human-slave/food producer.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:52:49am |
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Bear Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:54:09am |
re: #278 kirkspencer
Guess I best get my tin foil hat on. Had the thought that it would be a good way to get intelligent agents aboard to spy out something.
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rwdflynavy Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:54:12am |
re: #282 Rightwingconspirator
this slow motion crash is just torture for those of us who grew up with Kodak products.
Paul Simon is inconsolable.
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Petero1818 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:55:34am |
re: #272 kirkspencer
If a foreigner marries a Japanese citizen, that foreigner has two years to declare which of two citizenships he/she shall have. Japan does not allow dual citizenship in general, but solely due to being born of parents having different citizenships (and then only to the age of 20) or as a transition in cases such as marriage or other integration.
Note that this is a somewhat different situation from the one that gets me in regard to Israel. Not allowing Arabs born outside Israel to have citizenship on marriage might be defensible. Not allowing Arabs born in the areas Israel controls to have citizenship even if they marry Israelis is slightly different.
Would I get all worked up about the Japanese? Frankly, it depends. One reason I get all worked up about Israel is the huge proportion of our strategy that is engaged in maintaining that nation’s existence.
While I do not support all the Israeli government’s immigration and citizenship policies, one might argue that your strategy that is engaged in maintaining Israel’s existence is in fact tied to the very issue you raise as problematic. Israel faces an existential demographic problem. It cannot claim the territories as its own or Jews would automatically be be a minority in Israel proper. Likewise it is concerned about a demographic shift if Arabs from the territories marry Israeli arabs as that will cause an “unnatural” population growth of Arabs inside of Israel. That is a very tough issue. Israel is a Jewish state and it will always seek to protect a Jewish majority. No Jewish majority means no Israel.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:55:45am |
Sarah Posner:
GOP, Gingrich, Perry Team Up to Put Satirists Out of Work
Perry, in endorsing Gingrich, issued the hollow preemptive strike of redemption:
I believe Newt is a conservative visionary who can transform our country.
We have had our differences, which campaigns inevitably bring out. And Newt is not perfect, but who among us is?
The fact is, there is forgiveness for those who seek God and I believe in the power of redemption, for it is a central tenet of my own Christian faith.
We’ve seen the religious right forgive infidelity. The only thing it won’t forgive is being gay. (Ask Ted Haggard.) Open marriage is a new one.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:56:49am |
re: #282 Rightwingconspirator
this slow motion crash is just torture for those of us who grew up with Kodak products.
But think… what was the last product that you purchased that had a Kodak label on it?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:57:33am |
re: #289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But think… what was the last product that you purchased that had a Kodak label on it?
Photographic paper for the computer, but not always.
They should have moved into software. People trust the Kodak name when it comes to photography.
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rwdflynavy Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:58:17am |
re: #288 jaunte
Sarah Posner:
GOP, Gingrich, Perry Team Up to Put Satirists Out of Work
We’ve seen the religious right forgive infidelity. The only thing it won’t forgive is being gay. (Ask Ted Haggard.) Open marriage is a new one.
Remember, Newt only favors open marriage because he is so dedicated to America! He loves his country so much, he needs to sleep with as many attractive American women as possible.
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blueraven Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:01:48am |
re: #276 lawhawk
Better that than crapping out and liquidating under Ch. 7. It’s a reorganization, and they hope to try and monetize their huge patent portfolio.
Many of the problems at Kodak stem from mistakes made in the 1980s and 1990s to ignore digital photography, even if they’re the ones who invented the tech. By the time they realized they were on the wrong side of technology, it was too late to break into the camera business.
All true, but nevertheless, it was a quintessential American success story of a company that in its heyday, was a testament to capitalism at its best.
A lot of people made money there…plus Kodachrome!
Sad to see it go.
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Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:03:48am |
re: #272 kirkspencer
Would I get all worked up about the Japanese? Frankly, it depends. One reason I get all worked up about Israel is the huge proportion of our strategy that is engaged in maintaining that nation’s existence.
Thanks for clarifying that.
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:03:55am |
re: #278 kirkspencer
The Iranian Coast Guard and Navy (which is quite small in size, though they’ve been trying to develop a home-grown destroyer/frigate class that would be their largest surface ships) both operate nearly exclusively within the Persian Gulf where this particular rescue operation was conducted. They are far less likely to operate outside the Persian Gulf - such as when the US Navy rescued Iranian ships/crews in the Gulf of Oman and Arabian Sea. The Iranian capabilities are largely as a littoral navy - close-in to shore, rather than blue water operations.
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:07:46am |
re: #289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It’s been years since I bought Kodak film (5+ years) since I got my first digital camera (a Rebel xTi) after having a Rebel 2000 film camera. Used Kodak film initially but shifted to Fujifilm because I liked the color range given when processing on Kodak paper.
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:10:38am |
re: #289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
35mm color film. Just last summer. For my old Nikon SLR. It would be fine with me if they made the best sensors that wound up in whoever camera design. Or seriously somebody needs to make full frame sensors for medium format. Kodak could have until they sold the sensor div.
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abolitionist Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:11:11am |
re: #289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But think… what was the last product that you purchased that had a Kodak label on it?
A used Brownie, in ‘73.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:12:59am |
re: #284 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I’m just guessing here.
You responded to the wrong post.
How’d you guess?
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kirkspencer Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:28:27am |
re: #287 Petero1818
While I do not support all the Israeli government’s immigration and citizenship policies, one might argue that your strategy that is engaged in maintaining Israel’s existence is in fact tied to the very issue you raise as problematic. Israel faces an existential demographic problem. It cannot claim the territories as its own or Jews would automatically be be a minority in Israel proper. Likewise it is concerned about a demographic shift if Arabs from the territories marry Israeli arabs as that will cause an “unnatural” population growth of Arabs inside of Israel. That is a very tough issue. Israel is a Jewish state and it will always seek to protect a Jewish majority. No Jewish majority means no Israel.
Only if it is necessary that Israel be a Jewish State. In which case it is not a democracy; it becomes a nation bound solely by race and arguably solely by religion. In the latter case, it is a theocracy. But it claims to be a democracy.
We tolerate and support with reservations other nations which have such restrictions, but only as they help us counter enemies or control assets. Israel is rapidly reaching a decision point as to whether they’re a nation we support due to parallel principles or because it’s one of those with contrary principles but we need its assets.
Given the other nations in the region with which we must deal, Israel remains a better choice. But the more it looks like another version of the rest the less this becomes true.
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