Gingrich’s Race Baiting Strategy Pays Off in S. Carolina

Blatant appeals to racist stereotypes give Newt the edge
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Newt Gingrich’s appallingly overt race-baiting has paid off big-time in South Carolina, where the Confederate flag flies in front of the state Capitol building: Gingrich Is Well-Positioned as South Carolina Votes.

Newt Gingrich, who had trailed Mitt Romney by a double-digit margin in South Carolina in several polls conducted just after the New Hampshire primary, may instead be headed to a big victory there, recent polling suggests.

Mr. Gingrich leads Mr. Romney 38 to 30 in the FiveThirtyEight forecast of South Carolina, which has been updated with polling through Friday evening.

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229 comments
1 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:09:09am

It’s pretty hilarious to see Gingrich surging again. I can’t think of a more flawed candidate.

2 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:10:00am

re: #1 Obdicut

It’s pretty hilarious to see Gingrich surging again. I can’t think of a more flawed candidate.

Hilarious and hopeful. Hope he defeats Romney. I’m thinking tactically here, of course.

3 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:11:11am

Is that why his counter attack on the open marriage question was so very well received, even beyond the room?

If I had been the moderator I would have been sorely tempted to respond in kind-Stand up and say-How dare you Mr Gingrich attempt to exclude legitimate questions on character of you or any candidate to lead this nation? The questions come from me to you sir, not the other way ‘round.

4 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:13:00am

re: #3 Rightwingconspirator

Is that why his counter attack on the open marriage question was so very well received, even beyond the room?

If I had been the moderator I would have been sorely tempted to respond in kind-Stand up and say-How dare you Mr Gingrich attempt to exclude legitimate questions on character of you or any candidate to lead this nation? The questions come from me to you sir, not the other way ‘round.

Then you’ll need to be put in your place.

5 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:14:57am

Exactly.

6 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:16:09am

I’m so disgusted I can’t even upding the post.

7 palomino  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:17:25am

Poor Mitt, he’s changed everything about himself over the last 5 years, but he’s still not “one of them” when it comes to South Carolina.

8 allegro  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:19:01am

re: #7 palomino

Poor Mitt, he’s changed everything about himself over the last 5 years, but he’s still not “one of them” when it comes to South Carolina.

Most people would consider that a good thing.

9 kirkspencer  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:19:02am

As an Obama supporter (not necessarily an O-bot, but convinced he’s significantly better than any current republican candidate), both a contested primary right up to (or even into) the convention AND the idea of Newt being the nominee fill me with glee.

The Obama-Clinton race forced both candidates to fight hard for their delegates, giving little to no room to walk back positions to woo the middle. Instead they had to leave a tiny bit of wiggle room while mostly hoping their position to their base didn’t send the middle screaming to McCain.

There is no reason to believe the same “clarification” wouldn’t happen in a Republican long race.

At that point the republicans have to hope their base appeals to the middle as much as the Democratic base message appealed four years ago.

I don’t think so.

10 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:20:08am

re: #7 palomino

Poor Mitt, he’s changed everything about himself over the last 5 years, but he’s still not “one of them” when it comes to South Carolina.

I don’t get how Gingrich, who’s Catholic, is so preferable to a Mormon. Aren’t they both teh debil to the evangelicals?

11 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:21:02am

re: #10 Obdicut

I don’t get how Gingrich, who’s Catholic, is so preferable to a Mormon. Aren’t they both teh debil to the evangelicals?

“At least Catlicks are Chrischuns!”

12 erik_t  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:22:19am

re: #10 Obdicut

I don’t get how Gingrich, who’s Catholic, is so preferable to a Mormon. Aren’t they both teh debil to the evangelicals?

Catholics are wrong, Mormons are evil?

13 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:24:46am

re: #10 Obdicut

I don’t get how Gingrich, who’s Catholic, is so preferable to a Mormon. Aren’t they both teh debil to the evangelicals?

Even a generation ago, yes. However, certain social-conservative Catholics have managed to position themselves, by shifting their focus from social justice to the social conservative craziness, as acceptable alternatives. Poster boy is Santorum, of course. For whatever reason, Mormons still don’t count.

I wonder if they might, if they started doing the obsessive social purity talk. Or not. This is all a bit complicated.

14 Tumulus11  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:25:28am
‘After [being sanctioned by the House Ethics Committee], Gingrich started to deteriorate. There were times, Marianne says, when he wasn’t functioning. He started yelling at people, which he’d never done before, and he’d get weirdly “overfocused” on getting things done — manic, as if he was running out of time. He took to taking meetings while eating, slurping his food, as if he wasn’t aware or didn’t care how strange it looked. The staff responded with gallows humor: “He’s a sociopath, but he’s our sociopath.”
// Esquire Sept. 2010

. Gingrich may be ‘well-positioned’ but he is conspicuously unfit for the Presidency.

15 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:26:08am

re: #11 Sergey Romanov

“At least Catlicks are Chrischuns!”

Sigh. Too many classes spent trying to explain to a bunch of skeptical middle schoolers that ‘Catholic’ and ‘Christian’ are not two separate faiths, and that there’s this word…’Protestant’…

16 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:26:15am

re: #13 SanFranciscoZionist

I doubt it. The “new scriptures” are an insurmountable stumbling block IMHO.

17 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:27:10am

re: #16 Sergey Romanov

I doubt it. The “new scriptures” are an insurmountable stumbling block IMHO.

A generation ago, the Pope, and the heathen worship of the saints were the insurmountable stumbling block. I dunno that most of these folks actually give a damn about theology.

18 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:27:10am

re: #15 SanFranciscoZionist

Sigh. Too many classes spent trying to explain to a bunch of skeptical middle schoolers that ‘Catholic’ and ‘Christian’ are not two separate faiths, and that there’s this word…’Protestant’…

ʘ_ʘ

19 Lidane  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:27:34am

South Carolina was the first state to secede, and they did so entirely because of slavery. The white minority wanted to keep profiting off the slave labor of the black majority.

Is it any wonder that they’d love a guy now who baits them with white resentment towards a black president?

20 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:29:19am

re: #10 Obdicut

I don’t get how Gingrich, who’s Catholic, is so preferable to a Mormon. Aren’t they both teh debil to the evangelicals?

Depends on which Evangelicals.

Mainline ones - Evangelical Lutherans (ELCA), most Methodists, American Baptist Convention, United Church of Christ, etc., no.

Conservative bigoted ones like Southern Baptist Convention, most Pentecostals, and such, well, they luvvv that antigay and anti-woman bit. But they just want the hashmarks. They don’t want to sit next to them in church unless they’re converting.

21 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:30:26am

re: #15 SanFranciscoZionist

Sigh. Too many classes spent trying to explain to a bunch of skeptical middle schoolers that ‘Catholic’ and ‘Christian’ are not two separate faiths, and that there’s this word…’Protestant’…

Not to mention Orthodox, whom they don’t like any better, either.

22 bratwurst  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:30:33am

On paper, I always saw South Carolina as a severe test for a Mormon perceived as a northeastern moderate…but as recently as a week ago Mitt sure seemed to have sewn it up. It’s amazing how a hypocritical blowhard acting like an asshole on TV can excite the base.

23 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:30:48am

re: #17 SanFranciscoZionist

A generation ago, the Pope, and the heathen worship of the saints were the insurmountable stumbling block. I dunno that most of these folks actually give a damn about theology.

Maybe I’m giving a wrong analogy here… but let’s take Jack Chick. He always exposes Catholics, but he was pretty sympathetic when it came to Russian Orthodox Church under Bolsheviks. In that strip they were simply “Russian Christians” or something like that, despite saints, icons and whatnot. So it’s situational. Against a humongously greater “evil” they may accept even Romney, but Catholics are just much nearer on the Christian continuum.

24 jaunte  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:31:34am

re: #19 Lidane

South Carolina was the first state to secede, and they did so entirely because of slavery. The white minority wanted to keep profiting off the slave labor of the black majority.

Is it any wonder that they’d love a guy now who baits them with white resentment towards a black president?

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

25 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:32:54am

re: #18 Sergey Romanov

ʘ_ʘ

You think that’s bad. Then there’s the ‘no, people didn’t speak Spanish in Mexico thousands of years ago’ talk, and the ‘no, they weren’t Christians OR Catholics then either’. Bear in mind that many of these kids are FROM Mexico, or their parents are.

One in a while you get a kid who actually knows a bit of Mexican history, and they just sit there and ROLL their eyes.

(There was also the kid who took away a lesson on Mexican history for a reading class from me and said, “Please, your accent is horrible. Let me.” But he was a high school junior.)

26 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:33:23am

re: #21 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Not to mention Orthodox, whom they don’t like any better, either.

In the case of my middle schoolers, they’ve never even heard of.

27 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:33:32am

re: #23 Sergey Romanov

Maybe I’m giving a wrong analogy here… but let’s take Jack Chick. He always exposes Catholics, but he was pretty sympathetic when it came to Russian Orthodox Church under Bolsheviks. In that strip they were simply “Russian Christians” or something like that, despite saints, icons and whatnot. So it’s situational. Against a humongously greater “evil” they may accept even Romney, but Catholics are just much nearer on a Christian continuum.

Again and again your perspective cuts to the heart of it. Well done.

28 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:33:55am

re: #10 Obdicut

I don’t get how Gingrich, who’s Catholic, is so preferable to a Mormon. Aren’t they both teh debil to the evangelicals?

These evangelicals are hypocrites. All they care about is their Christian hate of Obama and the hope that nasty ole Newt is the one to put him in his place.

Basic.

29 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:34:19am

re: #23 Sergey Romanov

Maybe I’m giving a wrong analogy here… but let’s take Jack Chick. He always exposes Catholics, but he was pretty sympathetic when it came to Russian Orthodox Church under Bolsheviks. In that strip they were simply “Russian Christians” or something like that, despite saints, icons and whatnot. So it’s situational. Against a humongously greater “evil” they may accept even Romney, but Catholics are just much nearer on the Christian continuum.

Interesting. I’ve never seen a Chick tract with Russian Christians. And I’ve actually read a number of them.

I must look some of those up.

30 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:34:34am

re: #23 Sergey Romanov

Maybe I’m giving a wrong analogy here… but let’s take Jack Chick. He always exposes Catholics, but he was pretty sympathetic when it came to Russian Orthodox Church under Bolsheviks. In that strip they were simply “Russian Christians” or something like that, despite saints, icons and whatnot. So it’s situational. Against a humongously greater “evil” they may accept even Romney, but Catholics are just much nearer on a Christian continuum.

A lot of that is Fundamentalist kneejerk commiebaiting and ignorance about Orthodoxy. It’s about on the level of Rush defending The Lord’s Army against The Moozlum in the WH.

Send a Baptist Fundamentalist idiot like Jack Chick into an Orthodox cathedral, watch them go up in smoke from all the “idols” and blah blah.

31 steve_davis  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:34:50am

My State, sad to say. You know, the ironic thing is that reformed rakes often become the most ardent supporters of the other side from their original positions. As strange as it may seem, if South Carolina ever had a Huey Long come along to combine Populism, Evangelicalism, and a kind of benevolent progressive capitalism, it could actually shift its entire political makeup about on its axis. Of course, the low country Bourbons would finally have to burn out the Upstate Jonesists, but it could be done.

32 Olsonist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:35:38am

re: #16 Sergey Romanov

I doubt it. The “new scriptures” are an insurmountable stumbling block IMHO.

Yeah, Dune was pretty good too.Dune Messiah? Not so bad. But Children of Dune?

33 Lidane  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:35:42am

re: #24 jaunte

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

Yep. Super-impose that map over the county-by-county 2008 election results. It explains a lot.

34 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:36:01am

re: #17 SanFranciscoZionist

A generation ago, the Pope, and the heathen worship of the saints were the insurmountable stumbling block. I dunno that most of these folks actually give a damn about theology.

IMHO-They don’t. It’s all about the perceived need of the moment. In the case of the bigots-Even if we were all the same color and all atheist or pantheist, they would find some rationale to hate and spew. Left hand right hand maybe. Or the old favorite, regional bigotry.

35 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:36:49am

re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist

Interesting. I’ve never seen a Chick tract with Russian Christians. And I’ve actually read a number of them.

I must look some of those up.

I had all of them growing up, including his Crusader and Alberto series. They were “treats” for when I’d get good grades.

36 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:37:28am

re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist

I’ll try to find it. In fact, I think it might have been one of those “Catholics caused the Holocaust” tracts.

37 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:38:54am

re: #35 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I had all of them growing up, including his Crusader and Alberto series. They were “treats” for when I’d get good grades.

Have you read any of Jabberwock’s Chick Tract Dissections? Some of them are screamingly funny.

38 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:39:30am

So, anyone posting numbers yet?

39 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:39:44am

re: #38 SanFranciscoZionist

So, anyone posting numbers yet?

42.

40 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:40:16am

re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist

Here it is:

[Link: www.chick.com…]

You’ll have to scroll a bit.

41 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:40:37am

re: #39 Varek Raith
You are kidding around aren’t you?

42 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:42:00am

re: #41 PhillyPretzel

You are kidding around aren’t you?

Me?
Never.

43 allegro  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:42:34am

re: #35 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I had all of them growing up, including his Crusader and Alberto series. They were “treats” for when I’d get good grades.

Oh, wow, that is some seriously creepy shit.

44 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:43:15am

re: #40 Sergey Romanov

Here it is:

[Link: www.chick.com…]

You’ll have to scroll a bit.

(Heh, he basically takes the “Jews did this or that” CTs and substitutes Catholics. E.g. with the killing of the Tsar and his family the infamous CT is that “Jews did it”. For Chick it was “Jesuits did it”.)

45 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:43:44am

Meanwhile, the Muslim Brotherhood has 38% of the seats, and al-Nour has 29%. In Egypt, not South Carolina, although that would also be interesting.

46 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:43:53am

re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist

Have you read any of Jabberwock’s Chick Tract Dissections? Some of them are screamingly funny.

I have - Yaaaaaaaaaaa

lol

47 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:44:55am

re: #40 Sergey Romanov

Here it is:

[Link: www.chick.com…]

You’ll have to scroll a bit.

Yeah, an Alberto series. I remember that one - forgot about the mention of Eastern churches.

48 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:45:15am

Thank you, Sergey, for memories I did not plan on having this morning! lol

49 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:45:34am

re: #48 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Thank you, Sergey, for memories I did not plan on having this morning! lol

You’re welcome. /

50 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:45:47am

Peaceful protest update…

Officers injured, five arrested in late-night Occupy SF protest

Five people were arrested late Friday night when police and Occupy protesters clashed at a long-closed hotel, leaving some officers injured, authorities said.
The violence flared after 10 p.m. when police confronted hundreds of activists at the Cathedral Hill Hotel, on Van Ness Avenue near Geary Street.
Some protesters occupying the hotel threw objects at police clad in riot gear during the clash, injuring three officers, authorities said.
The incident occurred at the end of an otherwise peaceful daylong series of protests — called Occupy Wall Street West — in downtown San Francisco.
An additional 19 people were arrested early in the day, mostly for blocking an entrance at the Wells Fargo headquarters. One man was arrested for apparently being in possession of a police baton after a brief clash with police near the intersection of California and Montgomery streets.

51 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:46:50am

I just finished shoveling the walk. I am pooped. I really do not like snow. [Link: www.flickr.com…]

52 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:46:56am

re: #47 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah, an Alberto series. I remember that one - forgot about the mention of Eastern churches.

Hell, I’m reading from the top. I like the guy who’s explaining about the sinister secrets he learned under oath when he was a Jesuit at the Vatican.

53 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:47:00am

re: #43 allegro

Oh, wow, that is some seriously creepy shit.

Yeah. Not for children. But traditional family values evangelicals can be pretty warped.

54 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:47:42am

re: #51 PhillyPretzel

I just finished shoveling the walk. I am pooped. I really do not like snow. [Link: www.flickr.com…]

I haven’t bothered shoveling. And I ain’t gonna!
:P

55 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:49:12am
Frank Connelly is the producer of a television series based on evolution. But his meeting with the Crusaders and their friend, Dr. Lind, will change his opinion on what he’s producing.

Dr. Lind spends time with the producer discussing various “facts” of evolution.

With proof presented to him, Frank Connelly is convinced evolution is not the truth.

This comic proves that the “science” of evolution can only be labeled as misleading theory. Many are being brainwashed in the schools and through the media into believing the Bible is false and that evolution is a scientific fact. Now it’s time they are told the truth!

Hahahaha!
Brainwashing indeed!

56 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:49:29am

re: #51 PhillyPretzel

I just finished shoveling the walk. I am pooped. I really do not like snow. [Link: www.flickr.com…]

looks like you have a lot more to go!!

57 kirkspencer  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:50:29am

One of the CT deployment techniques is to stuff copies in books at the public library. One library director I know decided this made a great method of picking what books went on display that week. Find a CT - shelf reading, checking books in or out, whatever - note the book on a list for the director.

Of course it also prepped her for upcoming book challenges from the “why is that trash in the library” crowd. Amazing how often that correlated.

58 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:50:44am

re: #56 sattv4u2
That is a picture of the rest of the neighbors. They have to shovel their walks. I did mine.

59 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:51:05am

re: #50 Killgore Trout

Peaceful protest update…

Officers injured, five arrested in late-night Occupy SF protest

From the news last night, it looked like they smashed the windows at a car dealership—there’s a pricey one down the street from there, although, me being me, I could not tell you what brand.

There was also a report that they were throwing bibles off the hotel roof. I wasn’t sure if that was supposed to be a suggestion that the Bible agrees with their demands about the hotel, or if they just HAD some bibles, or what, or if the newscaster got that wrong.

The building in question is, I believe, going to be converted into a hospital building.

60 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:53:05am

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

That is a picture of the rest of the neighbors. They have to shovel thier walks. I did mine.

What a lousy neighbor YOU are !!

//

61 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:54:22am

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

That is a picture of the rest of the neighbors. They have to shovel thier walks. I did mine.

Looks like the clouds are really thick, the light is so low.
Burrr!

62 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:54:59am

re: #61 Rightwingconspirator

Looks like the clouds are really thick, the light is so low.

and the moon looks lovely in your eyes!!

63 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:55:25am

re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist

There was also a report that they were throwing bibles off the hotel roof. I wasn’t sure if that was supposed to be a suggestion that the Bible agrees with their demands about the hotel, or if they just HAD some bibles, or what, or if the newscaster got that wrong.

Heh.

64 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:55:41am

re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist

From the news last night, it looked like they smashed the windows at a car dealership—there’s a pricey one down the street from there, although, me being me, I could not tell you what brand.

There are different brands of cars?

/

I could tell you what year a Mustang is, if it falls between 1965 and 1968. After that, I lost interest.

65 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:56:28am

re: #64 wrenchwench

There are different brands of cars?

/

I could tell you what year a Mustang is, if it falls between 1965 and 1968. After that, I lost interest.

i’m the same way with 50’s era Chevys

66 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:56:29am

re: #62 sattv4u2

and the moon looks lovely in your eyes!!

Awww thanks but I really don’t swing that way…
/// LOL

67 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:56:56am

re: #61 Rightwingconspirator
It was overcast when I took the photos. And it still is. :(

68 jaunte  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:56:57am

re: #51 PhillyPretzel

I just finished shoveling the walk. I am pooped. I really do not like snow. [Link: www.flickr.com…]

We’re not having winter down here this year.
Image: Screen_shot_2012-01-21_at_12.55.31_PM.png

69 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:59:00am

re: #68 jaunte
Philly is in the thick of it. [Link: www.wunderground.com…]

70 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:59:02am

re: #63 Killgore Trout

Heh.

Well, I thought that they might have collected the old Gideons out of the hotel rooms.

Bentley. It was the Bentley dealership. (I had to look it up.)

Some nurses, and now others, object to California Pacific Medical Center opening a new hospital on the site (in Medical Gulch), because it will take resources from St. Luke’s in the Mission.

71 dragonfire1981  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:59:32am

Should a psychiatric assessment be required for Presidential candidates?

72 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 10:59:37am

This should work out well!
SFPD Cops To Wear Giants Gear at 49ers Game

[Link: sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com…]

Dear 9ers fan

If you see someone with a Giants hat/ jersey on, make sure they DON’T have a bulge at their hip before you yell in their face “The Giants SUCK”!

73 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:00:07am

re: #69 PhillyPretzel

Pretty much the same here.
I’m staying inside.
[Link: www.wunderground.com…]

74 prairiefire  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:00:33am

re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist

It is an old hotel, so the bibles were probably in a storage closet.

75 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:00:34am

Mt Wilson should be at least chains only, and likely closed due to snow and ice to any but local Observatory staff traffic. But it’s just raining. Even Mt Baldy is bare. It’s usually snow covered from December to May.

76 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:00:34am

re: #71 dragonfire1981

Should a psychiatric assessment be required for Presidential candidates?

heh ,, you have to be a tad off to even WANT that job!!!

77 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:01:03am

re: #71 dragonfire1981

Should a psychiatric assessment be required for Presidential candidates?

Since wanting to be president is probably, in and of itself, evidence of a psychiatric disorder…I don’t know if it would help.

78 jaunte  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:01:26am

re: #71 dragonfire1981

Newt has one:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

79 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:03:32am

From Chick:

“The Vatican has always wanted to move to Jerusalem, because that’s where the true Christian church began.”

“What has stopped her?”

“The Orthodox Jews have stopped her. And that’s why they’re on Rome’s hit list.”

HOW???

80 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:04:59am

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

That is a picture of the rest of the neighbors. They have to shovel their walks. I did mine.

Where you live looks beautiful. ‘Cept for the snow and cold I guess.

I miss east coast non-stucco.

81 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:05:13am

“Long before the Crusades, the Vatican secretly negotiated and financed Mohammed (through a Roman Catholic relative) to help annhilate the Jews.”

Does Pam know about this?

82 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:05:32am

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

From Chick:

“The Vatican has always wanted to move to Jerusalem, because that’s where the true Christian church began.”

“What has stopped her?”

“The Orthodox Jews have stopped her. And that’s why they’re on Rome’s hit list.”

HOW???

re: #81 SanFranciscoZionist

“Long before the Crusades, the Vatican secretly negotiated and financed Mohammed (through a Roman Catholic relative) to help annhilate the Jews.”

Does Pam know about this?

Whut

83 jaunte  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:05:50am

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

Saladin: Mossad operative.

84 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:06:19am

re: #81 SanFranciscoZionist

“Long before the Crusades, the Vatican secretly negotiated and financed Mohammed (through a Roman Catholic relative) to help annhilate the Jews.”

Does Pam know about this?

No, and don’t tell her.

85 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:06:23am

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

Bentley. It was the Bentley dealership. (I had to look it up.)

I had no idea they still made Bentley’s. I wonder if they give you a free monocle and handle bar mustache when you buy a car.

86 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:07:01am

re: #85 Killgore Trout

I had no idea they still made Bentley’s. I wonder if they give you a free monocle and handle bar mustache when you buy a car.

YOU FORGOT THE TOPHAT
Image: d2e36700_QuiteRly.jpg

87 kirkspencer  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:08:27am

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

From Chick:

“The Vatican has always wanted to move to Jerusalem, because that’s where the true Christian church began.”

“What has stopped her?”

“The Orthodox Jews have stopped her. And that’s why they’re on Rome’s hit list.”

HOW???

So much history fail.

88 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:08:43am

re: #85 Killgore Trout

I had no idea they still made Bentley’s. I wonder if they give you a free monocle and handle bar mustache when you buy a car.

I see Bentleys all the time on the freeway.

Even seen one with curtains in the back seat.

89 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:10:09am

re: #86 Varek Raith

YOU FORGOT THE TOPHAT
Image: d2e36700_QuiteRly.jpg

Why is Orly Taitz wearing a moustache?!

90 jaunte  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:11:00am

re: #85 Killgore Trout

These are popular with the pro athletes around here:
[Link: www.pomcltd.com…]

91 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:11:09am

re: #89 Sergey Romanov

Why is Orly Taitz wearing a moustache?!

Image: OrlyTaitzOwl.jpg

92 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:14:23am

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

Is that Jack Chick? Is he still around?

93 dragonath  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:15:49am

Newt would have been an awesome announcer at the Circus Maximus if he wasn’t born 2,000 years too late. The guy’s like a walking definition of demagoguery.

94 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:17:23am

re: #93 dragonath

Newt would have been an awesome President of the Confederacy. The guy’s like a walking definition of racism.

there ya go

95 kirkspencer  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:19:12am

Just to be pedantic…

After the diaspora, Jerusalem was not only wholly owned by Romans but no Jews were allowed to live there. Even when the capital of the Holy Roman Empire moved from Rome to Constantinople, the Seat of the Catholic Church, the Vatican, remained in Rome.

If’n they wanted to have the vatican in Jerusalem, they had a few centuries of opportunity.

96 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:20:14am

[Link: www.toplessrobot.com…]

HAHAHAHA

97 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:20:33am

re: #45 SanFranciscoZionist

They will not enter coalition though. Al Nour has said some supremely nasty things about everyone else, including MB.

Like to happen is an MB-Left Wing Coalition Government. This, unfortunately, is our best hope to stop the Salafis in Egypt.

98 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:20:34am

re: #95 kirkspencer

If’n they wanted to have the vatican in Jerusalem, they had a few centuries of opportunity.

We RC’s are known procrastinators!!
//

100 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:23:17am

OK, that’s pretty fucking weird, as Obdi says:

[Link: faithmouse.blogspot.com…]

101 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:24:06am

re: #100 Sergey Romanov

OK, that’s pretty fucking weird, as Obdi says:

[Link: faithmouse.blogspot.com…]

Is that Ron Paul with a pancake over his head?
Awesome.

102 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:24:47am

re: #82 Varek Raith

re: #81 SanFranciscoZionist

Whut

Oh, it gets weirder.

103 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:25:16am

re: #92 SpaceJesus

Is that Jack Chick? Is he still around?

Still around and furious that the Phelpsian Cult has been able to be even more hateful than he is. ///

104 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:25:19am

re: #87 kirkspencer

So much history fail.

Oh, it gets worse.

105 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:27:33am

re: #95 kirkspencer

Just to be pedantic…

After the diaspora, Jerusalem was not only wholly owned by Romans but no Jews were allowed to live there. Even when the capital of the Holy Roman Empire moved from Rome to Constantinople, the Seat of the Catholic Church, the Vatican, remained in Rome.

If’n they wanted to have the vatican in Jerusalem, they had a few centuries of opportunity.

No. Jack Chick has spoken. They wanted Jerusalem, but the Jews wouldn’t let them, so they had the Jews rounded up, killed, and raped. They also sponsored Islam, but then Islam bit them in the ass, and wouldn’t let them have Jerusalem either.

Hitler, the KKK, the Russian Revolution, and some other stuff is also blamed on the Catholic Church (“Mother of Abominations”), but I think the really good one is this comic book’s deranged explanation of the Children’s Crusade. It takes a really good imagination to make the Children’s Crusade worse than it already was.

106 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:28:06am

re: #103 wlewisiii

yup. i went to his site to check up on it. this shit cracks me up.

107 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:28:39am

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

No. Jack Chick has spoken. They wanted Jerusalem, but the Jews wouldn’t let them, so they had the Jews rounded up, killed, and raped. They also sponsored Islam, but then Islam bit them in the ass, and wouldn’t let them have Jerusalem either.

Hitler, the KKK, the Russian Revolution, and some other stuff is also blamed on the Catholic Church (“Mother of Abominations”), but I think the really good one is this comic book’s deranged explanation of the Children’s Crusade. It takes a really good imagination to make the Children’s Crusade worse than it already was.

Wow…
I hate to see what he thinks of atheists
Lol.

108 jaunte  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:29:11am

re: #99 Varek Raith

Gingrich Says ‘Work’ Is A ‘Strange, Distant Concept’ To Juan Williams

Unlike Newt, Williams has actually been continuously employed by the private sector.

109 kirkspencer  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:30:05am

re: #104 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, it gets worse.

I agree. I’ve read most of them. I’m just referencing that point.

Remember that Jack Chick didn’t like the John Birch society. Oh, he didn’t mind their hatred of Communists, he just thought they were tools of the Jesuits — they weren’t strong enough haters.

110 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:30:10am

Meanwhile, in Libya:

ChangeInLibya Ismael Zmirli
BREAKING: REPORTS that AbdulHafiz Ghoga vice chairman of the NTC has resigned after protesters stormed into NTC HQ in #Benghazi via Almanara

111 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:31:14am

Is anyone even sure Jack Chick is a person?

112 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:32:23am

re: #111 SpaceJesus

Yes.

There is a picture of him.

113 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:32:28am

re: #108 jaunte

Unlike Newt, Williams has actually been continuously employed by the private sector.

This plays so well in South Carolina. But other places? Dog I hope not.

114 Robert O.  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:32:45am

I want HERMAN CAIN to win!

115 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:33:24am

After browsing his site, apparently all I need to do is join the Masons, and I will be the worst person to have ever stood before a glowing faceless man on a throne somewhere in outer space.

116 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:34:22am

re: #107 Varek Raith

Wow…
I hate to see what he thinks of atheists
Lol.

I’m not sure he actually believes in atheists, to be honest. The world for Jack Chick is pretty much divided into:

1. True Christians

2. Blank slates who have never heard the Truth, and will accept it wholeheartedly if told about it by the most random people.

3. Evil people who accept or have been hoodwinked by the worldwide worship of the Goddess and her son. This includes everyone from Roman Catholics to new age healers. All the really bad people are in this category, but some of them can be saved, making them potential Category Twos.

4. Jews, who are not Goddess worshippers, but are otherwise pretty bad, although they may double as innocent victims of Category Threes.

You may THINK you’re an atheist, but that means you believe in science and evolution, which is all a plot by the Category Three people. So really, you’re just a Category Three, like the Roman Catholics.

117 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:35:04am

re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m not sure he actually believes in atheists, to be honest. The world for Jack Chick is pretty much divided into:

1. True Christians

2. Blank slates who have never heard the Truth, and will accept it wholeheartedly if told about it by the most random people.

3. Evil people who accept or have been hoodwinked by the worldwide worship of the Goddess and her son. This includes everyone from Roman Catholics to new age healers. All the really bad people are in this category, but some of them can be saved, making them potential Category Twos.

4. Jews, who are not Goddess worshippers, but are otherwise pretty bad, although they may double as innocent victims of Category Threes.

You may THINK you’re an atheist, but that means you believe in science and evolution, which is all a plot by the Category Three people. So really, you’re just a Category Three, like the Roman Catholics.

Awesome.

118 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:35:19am

re: #112 ProLifeLiberal

why hasn’t this guy run for the GOP nomination yet

119 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:36:01am

re: #117 Varek Raith

Awesome.

All Error is pretty much one amorphous blob to Chick.

120 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:36:06am

re: #108 jaunte

Unlike Newt, Williams has actually been continuously employed by the private sector.

Juan is getting exactly what anyone else could have seen coming for him, for miles in advance.

121 Olsonist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:37:27am

You guys may laugh at Newt but that dude is no joke. He has that Teflon character that Ronald Reagan had. He sure sloughed off the ex-wife interview in fine style.

I’m sure Santorum is just clenching his jaw and complaining to his aides:

How is Newt out biggoting me? I’m supposed to be the bigot who wins SC.

That said, Santorum could never win a general. On the other hand, I can see a certain reality distortion field where Newt actually wins it. Yeah, I have a low opinion of the voting public.

First, I can easily see Newt winning the nomination, especially now. In fact, I’d bet on it. He wins SC and the Republican base says he’s our guy. The base can’t stand Romney. Carville said it best:

It ‘s like you’re trying to give a dog a pill. They keep spitting it up.

If Newt wins the nomination, then you get to the general and the Republican party gets to let its bigot flag fly. They win dirty and as I’ve said before, Newt is one evil fuck. Newt wins Texas, FLA, PA and Ohio.

A corrupt bigoted philandering has been? No, Newt’s the transformational leader that America needs.

122 kirkspencer  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:39:20am

I’m looking forward to the Florida primary for clarification.

If Newt can win, or even stay close (within 5) as #2, it’s a horse race nationwide. If Romney can win by 10 or more, it’s all Romney.

I already said I want it to be a race. Let everyone get a good whiff of the base principles of the modern GOP.

123 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:39:23am

re: #121 Olsonist

Newt wins, PA and Ohio.

Naw

124 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:39:45am

re: #121 Olsonist

I think the hate for Obama, be it bigots or liberal haters is huge. And 1/2 the country.

Problem is if they support a really fucked up person. Then we all pay.

125 Olsonist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:40:40am

re: #123 SpaceJesus

Naw

Jesus, I’m an atheist so I still need a ticket to heaven. If Newt wins the nomination, I’m tracking *you* down for that ticket.

126 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:41:16am

re: #121 Olsonist

You guys may laugh at Newt but that dude is no joke.

Oh, you don’t see me laughing, not at any of them.

Newt’s the best shot the white conservative bigots have, since Prick Perry put his own stupid foot in it on live television, several times.

And there are plenty of white conservative bigots, just seething to get back at the rest of us for taking away their unearned privileges, just by the fact of being born and not moving off the sidewalk when they walk down it.

They’ll vote for Newt in a hot second.

If Newt wins the nomination, then you get to the general and the Republican party gets to let its bigot flag fly.

Well, they will be doing that with or without Newt. Read the internet, lately? / :)

127 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:41:32am

re: #117 Varek Raith

Awesome.

You COULD be a Category Two, of course. And if you’re a Category Two, you’re exactly one cute little girl, or wise twinkly-eyed doctor or arrogant museum guide away from True Christianity.

128 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:41:43am

re: #125 Olsonist

Jesus, I’m an atheist so I still need a ticket to heaven. If Newt wins the nomination, I’m tracking *you* down for that ticket.

You gotta go through my representative, Jack Chick, to get those

129 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:42:30am

re: #127 SanFranciscoZionist

You COULD be a Category Two, of course. And if you’re a Category Two, you’re exactly one cute little girl, or wise twinkly-eyed doctor or arrogant museum guide away from True Christianity.

XD

130 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:42:57am

re: #122 kirkspencer

I’m looking forward to the Florida primary for clarification.

If Newt can win, or even stay close (within 5) as #2, it’s a horse race nationwide. If Romney can win by 10 or more, it’s all Romney.

I already said I want it to be a race. Let everyone get a good whiff of the base principles of the modern GOP.

Well that’s great, so long as one is not one of the walking targets of those assholes.

131 darthstar  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:43:28am

Mitt Romney’s practicing the phrase “I like schmear on my bagel” for Florida (he keeps saying ‘smear’)

132 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:43:43am

From My Right Word on Adler, the guy who thinks Israel might assassinate Obama: Oh, well, at least I’m not this, well, meshuganneh.

133 efuseakay  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:44:29am

LOL @ James Carville:

Carville to GOP: You have a disaster on your hands

Your new front-runner is one of your old front runners, Newt Gingrich. I would like to take a moment to revel: I cannot personally tell you how pleased I am to see old Newt rise to the top after listening to all of your nauseating, sickening lectures on the evils of government and the importance of family values.

Now, you guys have to deal with a $1.6 million Freddie Mac consultant (who says he wasn’t a lobbyist) who has been married three times. Hope you, at least, enjoy the Super Bowl. It could be your last hurrah for a while.

PS — As my former boss once said, I feel your pain. That’s why I didn’t mention Rick Perry.

134 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:44:35am

re: #131 darthstar

Mitt Romney’s practicing the phrase “I like schmear on my bagel” for Florida (he keeps saying ‘smear’)

He could run into one of my more testy Yiddish-speaking friends, who likes to snap that a ‘schmear’ is what you give a traffic cop so he won’t put on your car a ticket.

135 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:45:22am

re: #134 SanFranciscoZionist

LOL

136 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:45:40am

Okay I gotta get productive and get out after storm cloud images, I might get just the look I need from up the mountain a bit. See you all later.

137 kirkspencer  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:45:53am

re: #124 Stanley Sea

I think the hate for Obama, be it bigots or liberal haters is huge. And 1/2 the country.

Problem is if they support a really fucked up person. Then we all pay.

No, it’s probably only 27%. //

OK, a touch of seriousness.

In some recent favorability polls, Newt did well with Republicans and tanked with Democrats. No big surprise. The surprise, and why I want him to get the nod, is he also tanked with independents — at almost 2:1 dislike to like. Same group is ~1:1 on Obama. Remember that we’re presently 1/3 each grouping, and run the numbers.

33% are Dems for O. 33% are Reps for N. 50% of I’s (16%) like O, 33% of I’s (11%) like N, and the remaining 17% (6%) splits 2:1 O:N (4 more for O, 2 more for N). O gets 33+16+4=53. N gets 33+11+2=46.

Based solely on like/dislike, and assumes dislike doesn’t turn into “don’t bother to vote”.

138 Girth  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:45:59am

The best part of Newt being the nominee would be watching the wingers get disabused of the notion that Obama is an empty suit with a teleprompter. The rest of the campaign season will be pure hell. Seriously thinking of moving to Canada, no matter who wins.

139 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:46:03am

re: #133 efuseakay

LOL @ James Carville:

Carville to GOP: You have a disaster on your hands

Haha, that was hot.

140 dragonath  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:46:28am

I think the “Squire Comics” drawn by Al Hartley manage to out-weird the Chick Tracts. Plus, they have Bizarro Archie.

[Link: www.misterkitty.org…]

SpaceJesus, is this you?!

[Link: www.chick.com…]

141 SidewaysQuark  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:48:28am

If Gingrich is the nominee, we’ll (most likely) be looking at a VERY blue US map come November. On the other hand, even the slim chance that this beast could get the reigns of power in the White House are too much for me. Mitt, get your act together.

142 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:51:22am

re: #141 SidewaysQuark

Mitt is hardly better.

143 kirkspencer  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:51:50am

re: #137 kirkspencer

I meant to finish by noting that for the actual election, if Newt’s the republican candidate we could actually see margins that reflect Obama vs Keyes.

144 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:54:43am

re: #143 kirkspencer

fivethirtyeight Nate Silver
Best comparison for Romney-Gingrich is probably Mondale-Hart in 1984.

145 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:54:59am

re: #140 dragonath

I think the “Squire Comics” drawn by Al Hartley manage to out-weird the Chick Tracts. Plus, they have Bizarro Archie.

Yeah, I had all the Spire ones, too, by Taft-Hartley boy. :/

This one is super-freaky.

When rwnj Christians tell you they are just concerned for the chillldrennn, hide yours.

146 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:56:47am

If the insane happens and Gingrich clinches the nomination, is there any way at all short of a meteor falling on Obama of him winning? I mean, the psycho base is a lock, but with Gingrich being the center of a general election and not just lobbing bombs from the House, could he possibly ever win over any kind of independent?

147 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:57:46am

re: #146 SpaceJesus

If the insane happens and Gingrich clinches the nomination, is there any way at all short of a meteor falling on Obama of him winning? I mean, the psycho base is a lock, but with Gingrich being the center of a general election and not just lobbing bombs from the House, could he possibly ever win over any kind of independent?

1. Never say never.

2. But the chances are pretty slim. Much more so than with Romney.


PS: Ergo I’m for Newt.

148 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 11:58:35am

Will the ethics report be released? Will America care?

I want to see some old time Republicans who experienced him come out.

149 recusancy  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:01:31pm

re: #148 Stanley Sea

Will the ethics report be released? Will America care?

I want to see some old time Republicans who experienced him come out.

It’s already public. [Link: ethics.house.gov…] Is there some part of it that’s not public that I’m missing?

150 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:01:52pm

re: #148 Stanley Sea

Will the ethics report be released? Will America care?

I want to see some old time Republicans who experienced him come out.

It’s weird that Romney keeps calling for the ethics report to be released - because it’s already publicly available:

[Link: ethics.house.gov…]

151 Coracle  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:02:13pm

All I know is that if Newt wins SC, there’s going to be a serious battle on. I still think Romney will get the nom, but he’s going to have to fight harder, spend more money, and let his fellow Republicans build more piles of oppo research on him and each other. Couldn’t happen to a nicer party.

152 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:03:29pm

re: #149 recusancy

It’s already public. [Link: ethics.house.gov…] Is there some part of it that’s not public that I’m missing?

Hmm, didn’t Romney call for it’s release? Something made me think there was more “there”

Fooled by a pol, once again.

153 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:04:45pm

re: #150 Charles

I think they probably heard about the sealed materials of the investigation and didn’t dig deeper. Although it would certainly be good to see those too.

154 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:05:03pm

re: #152 Stanley Sea

There is.

155 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:05:52pm

Eat your own GOP. Please for America.

156 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:06:16pm

re: #152 Stanley Sea

Hmm, didn’t Romney call for it’s release? Something made me think there was more “there”

Fooled by a pol, once again.

I thought it was Pelosi that called for “more” to be released (whatever the “more” is)

[Link: www.usnews.com…]

157 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:07:08pm

re: #151 Coracle

I don’t know. Looking at the polling, I see a viable path to Gingrich.

158 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:10:05pm

OT

Campus wide power surge on the Clemson University campus causing power outages throughout

Clemson U,,, in South Carolina,,,, Primary,, today,, in South Carolina

Coincidence??

Maybe God IS telling Perry he should have stayed in!!!

/

159 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:10:14pm

personal bs that this blog, somehow makes me share.

My car is toast. I’m working on a new one, but since I haven’t had a payment in 6 years, the numbers are killing me.

Looking further. Really, I may rent a car for the week so not to jump into something stupid.

Today I’m tired of it. So I’m going to learn the freaking bus route and go shopping. Welcome to the real world.

160 Coracle  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:10:44pm

re: #157 ProLifeLiberal

I don’t know. Looking at the polling, I see a viable path to Gingrich.

Well, then. More power to him. Think he can win MA, NY, CA Republicans?

161 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:11:53pm

re: #159 Stanley Sea

personal bs that this blog, somehow makes me share.

My car is toast. I’m working on a new one, but since I haven’t had a payment in 6 years, the numbers are killing me.

Looking further. Really, I may rent a car for the week so not to jump into something stupid.

Today I’m tired of it. So I’m going to learn the freaking bus route and go shopping. Welcome to the real world.

Check out the monthly rates vs the day or weekly, EPSPECIALLY if you have something like AAA discounts

A month will give you time to research and find something real good used

just mho!

162 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:14:00pm

re: #161 sattv4u2

Check out the monthly rates vs the day or weekly, EPSPECIALLY if you have something like AAA discounts

A month will give you time to research and find something real good used

just mho!

dude, thanks.

163 kirkspencer  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:16:37pm

re: #144 ProLifeLiberal

No, that’s not what Nate Silver says. Mondale and Hart were tied in the polls at this point, while Romney has a 19 point lead.

What he says is two-part.
1) Based on the existing cases since 1972, Romney’s got a 98% chance of winning the nomination;
2) The list of cases is WAY too small to trust that percentage chance. After all, in 2004 the same formula said Clinton was a 99% favorite over Obama.

164 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:17:02pm

re: #159 Stanley Sea

personal bs that this blog, somehow makes me share.

My car is toast. I’m working on a new one, but since I haven’t had a payment in 6 years, the numbers are killing me.

Looking further. Really, I may rent a car for the week so not to jump into something stupid.

Today I’m tired of it. So I’m going to learn the freaking bus route and go shopping. Welcome to the real world.

Cars don’t go in the toaster silly!

165 Olsonist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:17:15pm

re: #148 Stanley Sea

Will the ethics report be released? Will America care?

I want to see some old time Republicans who experienced him come out.

Like Mr. Tea Party himself, Dick Armey? No comment from the guy who absolutely hates Newt.

re: #160 Coracle

Well, then. More power to him. Think he can win MA, NY, CA Republicans?

The Republicans out here in CA are a minority and they’re completely wacko. More than anything they want another wacko just like them.

In particular, since they are so wacko, they rarely can win a general because their primaries reward the ideological extreme. Schwarzenegger won because the recall allowed him to skip the primary. Wilson won because he was a really good campaigner. I’ve never understood how Deukmajean won. I think I was out of the country.

166 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:18:39pm

re: #160 Coracle

Yes, in the case of California Republicans.

167 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:18:54pm

re: #164 Varek Raith

Cars don’t go in the toaster silly!

Depends on the size of your toaster, no??

Image: toaster.png


Image: Hot-and-Toasty-Guerrilla-Marketing-Bus-Stop-is-a-Giant-Toaster-Oven.jpg

168 Amory Blaine  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:19:01pm

Newt Gingrich exemplifies the values of the GOP. Is it the fear of what is left of the moderate base which has Romney as the heir apparent? Gingrich is the extremist for the extremist party.

169 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:19:06pm

BEST MUSIC VIDEO of 2012. (Yes, so far, but, hey, it’s early in the year, so I can get away with it. But it really is the best new music video I have watched this year.)

[Link: www.npr.org…]

170 Targetpractice  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:19:45pm

re: #167 sattv4u2

Depends on the size of your toaster, no??

Image: toaster.png

Image: Hot-and-Toasty-Guerrilla-Marketing-Bus-Stop-is-a-Giant-Toaster-Oven.jpg

Toasters are dangerous weapons! They should be strictly regulated!

//

171 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:19:46pm

re: #163 kirkspencer

Well, that’s what he just tweeted.

172 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:21:18pm

re: #170 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Toasters are dangerous weapons! They should be strictly regulated!

//

They are

[Link: papawow.posterous.com…]

173 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:21:20pm

The people who prefer Paul, Gingrich, and Santorum over Romney better keep their fucking mouths shut if Romney wins and opts to keep their agenda at arm’s length. He owes them nothing and should give them exactly what he owes them.

174 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:21:23pm

Strange things in Libya continuing:

NusaybahK Nusaybah Khalil
Here is a picture of Mustafa Abdul Jalil meeting protesters who broke into #NTC headquarters today pic.twitter.com/Meq8Ub2H #Benghazi #Libya

175 Targetpractice  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:22:38pm

re: #173 _RememberTonyC

The people who prefer Paul, Gingrich, and Santorum over Romney better keep their fucking mouths shut if Romney wins and opts to keep their agenda at arm’s length. He owes them nothing and should give them exactly what he owes them.

But you know they won’t and you know he’ll try to pander to them. He’s got no choice, the base is pretty much the only thing he can rely upon at this point.

176 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:26:33pm

re: #23 Sergey Romanov

Maybe I’m giving a wrong analogy here… but let’s take Jack Chick. He always exposes Catholics, but he was pretty sympathetic when it came to Russian Orthodox Church under Bolsheviks. In that strip they were simply “Russian Christians” or something like that, despite saints, icons and whatnot. So it’s situational. Against a humongously greater “evil” they may accept even Romney, but Catholics are just much nearer on the Christian continuum.

Just a guess, but I think a lot of the hostility is left over from the Reformation. Since the main beef was with Rome, Eastern Orthodox Christians wouldn’t have been as reviled as Roman Catholics.

177 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:26:58pm

re: #172 sattv4u2

They are

[Link: papawow.posterous.com…]

Youtube Video
178 Olsonist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:27:10pm

re: #173 _RememberTonyC

The people who prefer Paul, Gingrich, and Santorum over Romney better keep their fucking mouths shut if Romney wins and opts to keep their agenda at arm’s length. He owes them nothing and should give them exactly what he owes them.

Disagree. He’ll pander to them in coded language. Ronald Reagan’s States Right Speech in Philadelphia, Mississippi came right after the RNC. Talk about a wink and a nod to the bigot wing.

I believe in states’ rights…. I believe we have distorted the balance of our government today by giving powers that were never intended to be given in the Constitution to that federal establishment.

Hmmm, that almost sounds like Ron Paul.

179 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:28:08pm

re: #175 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

But you know they won’t and you know he’ll try to pander to them. He’s got no choice, the base is pretty much the only thing he can rely upon at this point.

The people who simply hate Obama will hold their noses and vote for Romney. Because in many of their minds, Romney is the one thing Obama can never be. But for many in the middle who are not as dialed in as some of us are, Romney looks and sounds every bit the centrist when he chooses to. Many voters won’t even give a shit until after the conventions. And by then, both candidates will be in their “general election” mode.

180 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:28:08pm

re: #177 Varek Raith

LOVE Regan

181 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:29:15pm

re: #180 sattv4u2

LOVE Regan

He’s funny as hell.

182 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:30:02pm

re: #181 Varek Raith

He’s funny as hell.

A big part of it is the physicality he throws into it

183 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:30:20pm

re: #181 Varek Raith

I’m going to go ahead and say Reagan was a racist POS who weakened America in the long run with horrible policies.

184 Targetpractice  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:31:03pm

re: #179 _RememberTonyC

The people who simply hate Obama will hold their noses and vote for Romney. Because in many of their minds, Romney is the one thing Obama can never be. But for many in the middle who are not as dialed in as some of us are, Romney looks and sounds every bit the centrist when he chooses to. Many voters won’t even give a shit until after the conventions. And by then, both candidates will be in their “general election” mode.

Thing is, despite the Right’s best efforts, Obama still does not look or sound like the radical far-left socialist that they’ve been painting him as. But Romney has been out there, pounding the pulpit and making himself sound like a far-right wingnut to anybody who’d listen. So I see Obama having a far easier time playing himself to independents than Romney.

185 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:31:12pm

re: #182 sattv4u2

A big part of it is the physicality he throws into it

Now you walkie and talkie, general.

186 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:31:19pm

re: #183 ProLifeLiberal

I’m going to go ahead and say Reagan was a racist POS who weakened America in the long run with horrible policies.

umm,,, errrr,, DERP ,,,, we’re talking about BRIAN Regan , the comedian!!

But ,, rant away!!

187 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:32:26pm

re: #183 ProLifeLiberal

I’m going to go ahead and say Reagan was a racist POS who weakened America in the long run with horrible policies.

Talking about this guy.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

188 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:32:58pm

re: #178 Olsonist

Disagree. He’ll pander to them in coded language. Ronald Reagan’s States Right Speech in Philadelphia, Mississippi came right after the RNC. Talk about a wink and a nod to the bigot wing.


Hmmm, that almost sounds like Ron Paul.

He really won’t need to pander to them …. he can throw a few puffballs where he needs to, but do you really think he is worried about winning Texas? In places like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, NY/NJ, and New England, a center/right message will win more votes than an ultra right message. And those are the big regions that could go either way.

189 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:33:02pm

re: #179 _RememberTonyC

What is this “Romney is a centrist” based on?

190 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:33:11pm

re: #187 Varek Raith

Talking about this guy.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

He already had that one in the chamber though!!
/

191 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:33:40pm

re: #187 Varek Raith

Ahh, oops.

My computer sometimes misses keystrokes, so I thought that might have been what happened.

192 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:35:16pm

re: #184 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Thing is, despite the Right’s best efforts, Obama still does not look or sound like the radical far-left socialist that they’ve been painting him as. But Romney has been out there, pounding the pulpit and making himself sound like a far-right wingnut to anybody who’d listen. So I see Obama having a far easier time playing himself to independents than Romney.

No argument there … unless you are unemployed and frustrated and think a change is needed to help you get a job. Obama will probably win in Nov 2012 because the economy is due to get better. But if it doesn’t, Romney’s criticism of his policies will have far more bite.

193 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:36:43pm

re: #190 sattv4u2

He already had that one in the chamber though!!
/

I’m taping fishing!
To watch again later!

194 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:37:52pm

re: #189 Sergey Romanov

What is this “Romney is a centrist” based on?

the radical right hates him ….. that’s a start

he won an election in massachusetts, ultra righties never do that

195 Targetpractice  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:39:14pm

re: #192 _RememberTonyC

No argument there … unless you are unemployed and frustrated and think a change is needed to help you get a job. Obama will probably win in Nov 2012 because the economy is due to get better. But if it doesn’t, Romney’s criticism of his policies will have far more bite.

I imagine they’re going to lose a lot of their bite as the Obama campaign hammers on Romney for his years at Bain, his refusal to release his tax returns, his calling on people angry over income inequality “envious,” his declaration that corporations are people, etc, etc.

Romney’s the poster child of the sort of people who just screwed Americans out of millions of jobs.

196 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:40:38pm

re: #193 Varek Raith

I’m taping fishing!
To watch again later!

[Link: www.goodreads.com…]

197 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:41:15pm

Oh wow. Found another Chick tract on the origins of Islam. Apparently Khadijah was an undercover agent of the Vatican.

///I’m not even a Muslim, and I’m vaguely concerned that reading this tract is a hell-worthy offense.

///The story in the tract is being told by some guy named Yousef to everyone in his home village. I’m eager to see how they’re going to react to this. Since it’s Chick, they’ll either convert en masse, or martyr his ass on the spot. I’d sort of like a third option where everyone just agrees that jet lag does weird things to you, and never to speak of the night Yousef went a little weird ever again.

198 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:42:31pm

re: #195 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I imagine they’re going to lose a lot of their bite as the Obama campaign hammers on Romney for his years at Bain, his refusal to release his tax returns, his calling on people angry over income inequality “envious,” his declaration that corporations are people, etc, etc.

Romney’s the poster child of the sort of people who just screwed Americans out of millions of jobs.

In tough times, the challenger has the advantage of being able to say “your plans aren’t working.” Obama did it to great advantage in 2008, because he was the new guy and could hammer away. But now he has a record to DEFEND. And Romney can hammer away. Should be good times ….

199 Amory Blaine  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:43:26pm

Gas going up could be a spoiler.

200 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:43:38pm

Oh, also, the apparition of Mary at Fatima is part of it.

201 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:43:40pm

gotta run ……. have a good one

202 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:44:18pm

re: #195 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I imagine they’re going to lose a lot of their bite as the Obama campaign hammers on Romney for his years at Bain, his refusal to release his tax returns, his calling on people angry over income inequality “envious,” his declaration that corporations are people, etc, etc.

Romney’s the poster child of the sort of people who just screwed Americans out of millions of jobs.

Obama’s campaign should air ads of Romney advocating 0% capital gains tax. It should be pointed out that Romney not only thinks his paying 15% is too much, but that he wants to go to war with Iran while not personally having to fund it.

203 funky chicken  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:44:43pm

re: #1 Obdicut

It’s pretty hilarious to see Gingrich surging again. I can’t think of a more flawed candidate.

Alternately hilarious and horrifying for me. How can people look at the guy and listen to him and still consider voting for him?

204 Targetpractice  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:45:12pm

re: #203 funky chicken

Alternately hilarious and horrifying for me. How can people look at the guy and listen to him and still consider voting for him?

ABR = Anybody But Romney.

205 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:45:29pm

re: #194 _RememberTonyC

the radical right hates him … that’s a start

he won an election in massachusetts, ultra righties never do that

Both are based on his centrist stance in 90-s. He has changed since then.

206 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:46:56pm

re: #195 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I imagine they’re going to lose a lot of their bite as the Obama campaign hammers on Romney for his years at Bain, his refusal to release his tax returns, his calling on people angry over income inequality “envious,” his declaration that corporations are people, etc, etc.

Romney’s the poster child of the sort of people who just screwed Americans out of millions of jobs.

But really, he’s the best they have. And I prefer sane elections.

Like how Sarah Palin ruined the last one.

207 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:47:48pm

re: #202 goddamnedfrank

Obama’s campaign should air ads of Romney advocating 0% capital gains tax. It should be pointed out that Romney not only thinks his paying 15% is too much, but that he wants to go to war with Iran while not personally having to fund it.

Or fight it.

Typical conservative coward.

208 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:50:36pm

I was looking at political cartoons last night and thought this one was the perfect illustration of how the GOP base feels about Romney, heh.

209 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:50:50pm
Youtube Video
210 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:51:40pm

This “Romney is just hiding his true centrist self” is wishful thinking. Exactly what is it based on? Except for his past. But based on their pasts, what can one say about former D Ronald Reagan? Or Rick Perry, Al Gore’s former friend? Or were/are they faking it too?

211 engineer cat  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:54:29pm

i’m already wondering if the florida gop is emotionally healthy enough to fight off the opportunistic gingrich infection

212 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:55:21pm

re: #210 Sergey Romanov

I don’t think you can say Romney “Is” anything. He does not, from his record, from anything about him, seem to be at all a creature of principles or tenets. That’s what makes him so weird to me. It’s more like he’s applying for CEO of America. Like this is a job application, rather than a leadership position in government. His whole argument seems to be “Hire me, I’ll do what you want me to”.

213 Targetpractice  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:57:17pm

re: #210 Sergey Romanov

This “Romney is just hiding his true centrist self” is wishful thinking. Exactly what is it based on? Except for his past. But based on their pasts, what can one say about former D Ronald Reagan? Or Rick Perry, Al Gore’s former friend? Or were/are they faking it too?

At this point, it’s those moderates in the party who haven’t yet abandoned ship trying to find some reason to look forward to a Romney nomination. It’s a bit like the folks back in ‘08, trying to find reasons why the guy they’d been pointing and screaming at like aliens from Invasion of the Body Snatchers for years was suddenly a great candidate who they totally supported.

214 kirkspencer  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:57:22pm

re: #171 ProLifeLiberal

Well, that’s what he just tweeted.

oookay. I don’t follow tweets (lack of time, and too much noise to signal). I was referencing his recent NYT article.

215 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:58:44pm

re: #212 Obdicut

His record is all over the place, true. But right now he’s a far-right douche. And if he says his own words indicate so, I don’t have to doubt him, I take him at his word.

216 kirkspencer  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 12:59:38pm

re: #212 Obdicut

I don’t think you can say Romney “Is” anything. He does not, from his record, from anything about him, seem to be at all a creature of principles or tenets. That’s what makes him so weird to me. It’s more like he’s applying for CEO of America. Like this is a job application, rather than a leadership position in government. His whole argument seems to be “Hire me, I’ll do what you want me to”.

I think it’s easier to say he’s trying to avoid the Glaring Sin of his father. Romney the Father lost because he made an honest statement and stuck to it despite attacks from every direction.

Not really, not totally, yet a truth nonetheless. Lesson: do not lead. Find where the crowd is going and get in front.

217 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 1:01:51pm

Do we have anything at all coming in on the poll numbers?

218 engineer cat  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 1:02:05pm

re: #99 Varek Raith

Gingrich Says ‘Work’ Is A ‘Strange, Distant Concept’ To Juan Williams

do democrats need to counter this streicher-esque rhetoric, or does it fail by itself? would a nominee gingrich be dangerous in debates or continue to trail obama badly because no matter what he says he is simply a repulsive human being?

219 engineer cat  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 1:03:30pm

re: #217 SanFranciscoZionist

Do we have anything at all coming in on the poll numbers?

did you try Real Clear Politics?

220 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 1:04:26pm

re: #219 engineer dog

did you try Real Clear Politics?

Ah, thanks.

Blast and damn, Gingrich is at 33.5

221 erik_t  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 1:05:12pm

re: #217 SanFranciscoZionist

Do we have anything at all coming in on the poll numbers?

The useful numbers would be Fivethirtyeight’s.

222 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 1:06:13pm

re: #215 Sergey Romanov

Sure. That’s what he’s applying for, the job as the wildly socially conservative, stupidly austere, highly religious, president of the corporate states of America. And that’s the job that he’d do, I think, too, however much we console ourselves that he’d govern to the center. I don’t think so. He didn’t need to stake out such insane positions. There’s no reason to disbelieve him on them— especially when they conspire to help GOP win future elections.

223 engineer cat  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 1:07:52pm

and who inherited perry’s voters?

apparently, “someone else”

[Link: www.pollingreport.com…]

224 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 1:08:29pm

Antisemite Chris Hedges speaks to OWS about his lawsuit against Obama and how the military is going to refuse orders to crush the occupy movement….

#OWS: PULITZER PRIZE winner CHRIS HEDGES spoke @ Foley Square (01.20.12)

Youtube Video
225 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 1:09:04pm

re: #212 Obdicut

I don’t think you can say Romney “Is” anything. He does not, from his record, from anything about him, seem to be at all a creature of principles or tenets. That’s what makes him so weird to me. It’s more like he’s applying for CEO of America. Like this is a job application, rather than a leadership position in government. His whole argument seems to be “Hire me, I’ll do what you want me to”.

EXACTLY.

Precisely as described by DEVO:

Youtube Video

Never leaves a gap unfilled
Always pays on time
always fits the bill
He comes well prepared

Cube-top
Squared-off
Eight corners
90-degree angles
Flat top
Stares straight ahead
Stock parts
Blockhead

226 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 1:14:08pm

re: #224 Killgore Trout

Judging by reactions, the current OWS mostly consists of Obama-haters. I wonder if Paulites are already joining it openly.

227 TedStriker  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 1:17:03pm

re: #99 Varek Raith

Gingrich Says ‘Work’ Is A ‘Strange, Distant Concept’ To Juan Williams

That’s rich, considering that Newt has been in politics in one form or fashion for most of his adult life.

228 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jan 21, 2012 1:28:55pm

re: #224 Killgore Trout

Antisemite Chris Hedges speaks to OWS about his lawsuit against Obama and how the military is going to refuse orders to crush the occupy movement…

#OWS: PULITZER PRIZE winner CHRIS HEDGES spoke @ Foley Square (01.20.12)

[Video]

re: #226 Sergey Romanov

Judging by reactions, the current OWS mostly consists of Obama-haters. I wonder if Paulites are already joining it openly.

And his new best friend is running over to Scammity, suggesting just why RP “is doing so well” /eyeroll

[Link: video.foxnews.com…]

229 Peter Kaufman  Sun, Jan 22, 2012 8:45:44am

To Romney’s credit, of all his flip-flops, he doesn’t know how/can’t really do the racist dog-whistle thing. And in the GOP primary in South Carolina, that means you lose.

Lee Atwater is smiling down on Newt (or I suppose, smiling up).

inklake


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