*Stares at monitor with disgust*

An egg is "pre-chicken", no?

Almost seems like an Onion article right there. He should combine two bills into one and ban sharia law stem cells from all food products in OK.

Perhaps he was reading this?

Oklahoma = Idiotocracy

re: #3 Locker

Almost seems like an Onion article right there. He should combine two bills into one and ban sharia law stem cells from all food products in OK.

No stem cells were used in producing this sharia law.

Or should it be, no sharia law was used in producing these stem cells?

AND WHERE DOES THE FOOD PART FIT IN???

Why does LGF hate America?
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Today's GOP...focused like a laser on jobs and the economy!

Has someone explained to this gentleman the difference between the Sci-fi section of the library and the science section of the library?

Oklahoma seems to be on a little roll with this. Banning things that aren't likely to happen, but would be BAD if they did.

He thought of this will having a tasty, tender veal.

Just what the hell does Sen...Shortey know and when did he
know it??
Quickly now ...I'm not eatting ANYTHING till I find out!!
...Shit...it's lunch time...///

Grossout politics.

re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist

Preemptive stupidity??

re: #6 iossarian

No stem cells were used in producing this sharia law.

Or should it be, no sharia law was used in producing these stem cells?

AND WHERE DOES THE FOOD PART FIT IN???

I think maybe someone was plotting a sharia law take over of the Oklahoma state government while eating Cheetos over a vat of boiling stem cells.

re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist

Oklahoma seems to be on a little roll with this. Banning things that aren't likely to happen, but would be BAD if they did.

Are they going to ban meteorites hitting the earth?

What about nasty pandemics started in labs by evil geniuses?

What about sudden mutations of sloths, causing them to rise up and take over the wooorld!

This is fun.

re: #4 publicityStunted

Perhaps he was reading this?

Oklahoma, say good-bye to chicken mcnuggets

A) Is this a solution in search of a nonexistent problem? Absolutely.

B) Is it designed to ignite the passions of certain groups to demand action and to raise campaign funds? Absolutely.

The answer to B informs as to why we have A.

It seems someone has been watching too many 1968-1973 Charlton Heston movies (Planet of the Apes series; Soylent Green, Omega Man, etc.)

Just another big government Republican. If I want to eat dead human fetus, who is he to tell me I can't?

Tyranny!1!!!1 I want my country back!

Now how am I going to prepare my special Roasted Baby with fennel this Sunday, huh?

Damn food nazis.

They're going to ban EGGS and everything containing EGGS!

“There is a potential that there are companies that are using aborted human babies in their research and development of basically enhancing flavor for artificial flavors,” says Shortey.

There is also a potential that rightwing politicians are exploiting issues like abortion and women's right to choose for political expediency.

Which potential is likely more probable?

I'd like to propose we pass my bill intended to stop these aliens from other worlds landing willy nilly all over this nation. Roswell was just the start. Beware the greys!
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How is the above any different except less gross?

Stem Cell Food

I would never buy free range, organic eggs because they all contain fetuses (fetii?)

re: #19 lawhawk

A) Is this a solution in search of a nonexistent problem? Absolutely.

B) Is it designed to ignite the passions of certain groups to demand action and to raise campaign funds? Absolutely.

The answer to B informs as to why we have A.

It seems someone has been watching too many 1968-1973 Charlton Heston movies (Planet of the Apes series; Soylent Green, Omega Man, etc.)

Coming next week: A bill banning the sale of guns to apes.

re: #27 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Coming next week: A bill banning the sale of guns to apes.

But dogs can still buy guns, can't they?

re: #16 EmmmieG

Are they going to ban meteorites hitting the earth?

Only if the meteorites are gay.

What about nasty pandemics started in labs by evil geniuses?

Only if genetic assay can determine that the pandemic was not an angel inflicting a plague on mankind for wickedness.

What about sudden mutations of sloths, causing them to rise up and take over the wooorld!

It depends: if the sloths attack Israel, then they're clearly Gog or Magog, and should be nuked.

Otherwise...Mutant sloths aren't featured in John's Apocalypse, and therefore are of no consequence. If the mutant sloths accept Christ and recognize that Pat Robertson and Timothy LaHaye have a BatPhone that connects to Heaven, then all is well.

HUH???

re: #25 Killgore Trout

Stem Cell Food

Doesn't take long to discover that this website is a quack "health products" site.

re: #30 sffilk

HUH???

Yeah, that about covers it.

re: #27 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Heston word salad:

Hi, Big Brother, how's your ass? You Maniacs! You blew it up! Soylent green will do that so get your paws off me you damned dirty ape!

That ought to balance the budget, good job.

When has it ever been legal to commercially sell fetuses for human consumption?

WTF Oklahoma.

well there you go..all those Oklahomians (?) won't be able to go into McD's and get a McFetus with cheese, well I heard it was only going to be available for a limited time only...

and you all though the McRib was cow/pig meat?? jokes on you!!
/

I'd been seeing references to this for a couple of days. It continues to not make sense.

re: #35 Lidane

When has it ever been legal to commercially sell fetuses for human consumption?

WTF Oklahoma.

Well, it was a modest proposal...

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re: #35 Lidane

When has it ever been legal to commercially sell fetuses for human consumption?

WTF Oklahoma.

Well, I don't know, there's that guy that the FDA slapped with a warning to cease and desist sperm production. (Not a joke. Guy had a little side business as a private sperm donor.)

You'd think these people would concentrate on REAL food safety issues, like these:

[Link: blog.fooducate.com...]

re: #31 Charles

Doesn't take long to discover that this website is a quack "health products" site.

Looks like it. It seems there are a lot of quacks out there promoting un tested stem cell treatments...
FDA Warns About Stem Cell Claims
It seems they get placentas and umbilical chords from midwives. I know a hippie chick who saved her placenta and ate it. People are weird.

re: #25 Killgore Trout

Stem Cell Food

There it is!! That's the tie-in, Nolan Shaheed. Mooslim name!!11! Mooslims are gonna abort fetuses and slip the stem cells in our food to convert everyone!!11!

Muslim blood libel, anyone?

A Modest Proposal 2: Veal Harder.

When canned fetuses are outlawed, only outlaws will have canned fetuses.

re: #42 CuriousLurker

Muslim blood libel, anyone?

Halal turkeys aren't really turkeys!

Wiki (the usual caveats apply) has an entry for in vitro meat, in which it identifies that such products could be generated from stem cells. Mind you, it doesn't identify that those stem cells would be from animals and not humans, but that's quite possibly the source of this craziness.

Basically, scientists are looking at ways of growing in vitro meat as a more humane and/or efficient manner of growing meat than having mass-produced agri-farms. Some are looking to use animal stem cells as a progenitor to the food product.

This guy? Sees stem cells and automagically identifies a problem and rushes to write a bill prohibiting something that was, is, and would continue to be cannibalism.

re: #16 EmmmieG

Are they going to ban meteorites hitting the earth?

What about nasty pandemics started in labs by evil geniuses?

What about sudden mutations of sloths, causing them to rise up and take over the wooorld!

This is fun.

Uh, the sloth uprising has already been underway for thirty years. It's just proceeding verrry slowly.

Once again I wonder how somebody with such a severe and obvious metal illness can hold public office.

re: #45 Killgore Trout

Halal turkeys aren't really turkeys!

ZOMG, Pam was right all along!!!

re: #40 Lidane

Absolutely. Calling on better sanitary conditions at chicken farms for example - or requiring salmonella vaccinations for all chickens to all but eliminate salmonella outbreaks from egg/chicken products.

You know, things that actually happen and would make sense.

re: #46 lawhawk

Basically, scientists are looking at ways of growing in vitro meat as a more humane and/or efficient manner of growing meat than having mass-produced agri-farms. Some are looking to use animal stem cells as a progenitor to the food product.

I think it also removes the moral dilemma of cannibalism. Would it still be cannibalism to eat vitro human flesh?

I'm not saying outright that our food is being poisoned by Michelle Obama and her shadow government of Kenyan Muslim abortionists, but I also am not saying that they aren't. In other words, it may or may not be a misstatement of things that could possibly be true or false. Or not. Just sayin'. Better safe than sorry.

I can't wait to visit Oklahoma, now that I know that I will be safe from fetal food additives and sharia law.

There is the potential to use human stem cells to enhance the flavor of artificial flavoring? Do they taste like chicken?

re: #51 Killgore Trout

There is actually discussion about kosher laws as they might apply to synthetic meat.

someone's watched Soylent Green one too many times while high..

It's people crackers!!! gaaahhh!

This is the kind of asshole who, when he goes to the hospital, asks to have only White Christian blood...like that episode from M*A*S*H when Hawkeye gives a bigot a lesson in being an asshole.

re: #54 JeffM70

Have you ever realized that everything tastes like chicken? Maybe that's because the Machines didn't know what chicken tastes like so everything tastes like chicken. /mouse

re: #55 imp_62

There is actually discussion about kosher laws as they might apply to synthetic meat.

Can I just say that the term "synthetic meat" disturbs me on more levels than I care to count?

re: #53 DobermanBoston

I used to do business in Bartlesville (Phillips Petroleum). I always made sure to leave lots of extra time to get to the airport, for fear of being stranded there overnight. The last flight Friday was always overbooked by East Coast bankers scared sh*tless of being stuck in Oklahoma for the weekend.

re: #59 CuriousLurker

This shouldn't sound dirty. But it does.
;)

re: #51 Killgore Trout

I think it also removes the moral dilemma of cannibalism. Would it still be cannibalism to eat vitro human flesh?

It's not human. Is it even meat?

It could be poop.

re: #51 Killgore Trout

I think it also removes the moral dilemma of cannibalism. Would it still be cannibalism to eat vitro human flesh?

I'm just guessing, but I kind of doubt that people will be lining up to get in vitro long pig any time soon.

re: #62 Alouette

When in doubt, it is cholent meat. Add enough kishka, and nobody will ask any questions.

re: #50 lawhawk

Absolutely. Calling on better sanitary conditions at chicken farms for example - or requiring salmonella vaccinations for all chickens to all but eliminate salmonella outbreaks from egg/chicken products.

You know, things that actually happen and would make sense.

After I saw that photo, I've pretty much decided that I'm never having a chicken patty again. If I want something that looks like a chicken patty, I"m buying the vegetarian ones. Also, unless the meat I get is from a local farmer's market and/or organic, I'm eating more veggies and salads. It's healthier anyway.

re: #55 imp_62

There is actually discussion about kosher laws as they might apply to synthetic meat.

It does throw monkey wrench into the system.

re: #52 imp_62

I'm not saying outright that our food is being poisoned by Michelle Obama and her shadow government of Kenyan Muslim abortionists, but I also am not saying that they aren't. In other words, it may or may not be a misstatement of things that could possibly be true or false. Or not. Just sayin'. Better safe than sorry.

My brain hurts!

re: #62 Alouette

It's not human. Is it even meat?

It could be poop.

I'm not even gonna click on that. As a matter of fact, I feel a fit of hysterical laughter coming on, so maybe I should just go sit in a corner rocking back & forth as I cackle maniacally and drool all over myself for the rest of the day.

re: #63 Charles

I'm just guessing, but I kind of doubt that people will be lining up to get in vitro long pig any time soon.

Wanna bet? Gordon Ramsey could make a killing!

re: #65 Lidane

Ever read Animal Factory? If not, pick up a copy via Charles's Amazon link

*yawn* Wake me up when they perfect replicators.

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The right's steadfastness to ignorance and paranoia has transcended consciousness and being.

“There is a potential that there are companies that are using aborted human babies in their research and development of basically enhancing flavor for artificial flavors,” says Shortey.

This could be the dumb thing ever said.

re: #63 Charles

So, so tender.
/

Ah, NPR did a little research...State Bill Outlaws Use Of Fetuses In Food Industry

My own research suggests that Shortey may have noticed a boycott directed at PepsiCo, which since 2010 has worked with flavor research firm Senomyx to develop sweeteners and other flavorings.

Based in San Diego, Senomyx has been accused of using proteins derived from human embryonic kidney cells in its research, which has been used by many large food companies. An article in the Miami New Times summarizes those claims, notes the company's denial of them — and also notes that in 2003, the company filed a patent for "recombinant methods for expressing a functional sweet taste receptor."

That patent, for what is essentially an automated taste test, was granted in 2008. It mentions HEK 293, or Human Embryonic Kidney 293, a widely available cell line that was originally cultured in the early 1970s from a human embryo in the Netherlands.

re: #70 imp_62

Ever read Animal Factory? If not, pick up a copy via Charles's Amazon link

Actually, I'm re-reading Eating Animals by Jonathan Safran Foer, but I'll check it out.

I decided to finally get myself in order health-wise, so I started Weight Watchers a couple of weeks ago, and I'm taking it seriously. It's really just a way to retrain a person with bad food habits (i.e., me) to make smarter choices. I'm finding myself eating a lot more fruit and veggies and any candy and junk is rare. Since what I eat is now more of a focus for me, I'm paying attention to more of this stuff.

re: #69 Killgore Trout

Wanna bet? Gordon Ramsey could make a killing!

[Link: www.dangerouslogic.com...]

re: #65 Lidane

After I saw that photo, I've pretty much decided that I'm never having a chicken patty again. If I want something that looks like a chicken patty, I"m buying the vegetarian ones. Also, unless the meat I get is from a local farmer's market and/or organic, I'm eating more veggies and salads. It's healthier anyway.

Purple fingerling potatoes, if roasted whole, look disturbingly like a bunch of turds.

re: #75 Killgore Trout

Ah, NPR did a little research...State Bill Outlaws Use Of Fetuses In Food Industry

There is a major difference between lab cultured cells and tossing aborted babies into a Soylent Green processor.

re: #77 oaktree

[Link: www.dangerouslogic.com...]

lol

re: #76 Lidane

Actually, I'm re-reading Eating Animals by Jonathan Safran Foer, but I'll check it out.

I decided to finally get myself in order health-wise, so I started Weight Watchers a couple of weeks ago, and I'm taking it seriously. It's really just a way to retrain a person with bad food habits (i.e., me) to make smarter choices. I'm finding myself eating a lot more fruit and veggies and any candy and junk is rare. Since what I eat is now more of a focus for me, I'm paying attention to more of this stuff.

I don't like Weight Watchers because they promote a lot of OCD behavior.

re: #75 Killgore Trout

Ah. So there was research, not consumables. That makes sense.

re: #79 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

There is a major difference between lab cultured cells and tossing aborted babies into a Soylent Green processor.

I'd love to know exactly what they were doing. Something about using human kidney cells for an automated taste test but I have no clue how that would work.

re: #41 Killgore Trout

Do umbilical chords play in a major or minor key?

re: #81 Alouette

I don't like Weight Watchers because they promote a lot of OCD behavior.

I never thought of that. But I suppose you are correct; interesting...

re: #84 C1nnabar

Do umbilical chords play in a major or minor key?

Depends on the size of the baby they're attached to.

re: #73 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

This could be the dumb thing ever said.

Shortey has himself as competition when it comes to uttering the dumb. His position on abortion? Breech.

[...]

A Father's Agony
While preparing for the birth that was shortly to happen Ralph and Jennifer found out that Elena was breached. She was upside down and the threat of her umbilical cord being wrapped around her neck was real and present. If the birth did not go well or if it took too long she could be strangled during the birth. For eleven minutes that stretched into an eternity of grief, Ralph stood by helpless begging God to protect his baby. Rarely is a breached live birth even attempted and often they are unsuccessful. These facts never left the mind of a Father who could do nothing but watch and wait with every desire to protect his child and no ability to do just that.

The Upside-down Baby
As Ralph witnessed one of the most successful births possible for a breached baby his sense of pride in his wife and devotion to God flooded him and moved him to tears. When he held his baby for the first time the fear and loathing that was present just moments before was wiped away and replaced with the cries of a hungry little upside down baby that was begging for her mommy. Ralph could only smile and thank God for his amazing grace to every parent blessed with the miracle of life.

A New Understanding of Abortion
Ralph has always been vehemently against abortion, but on that day a sense of urgency was placed in his heart for the millions of babies murdered each year in this country. The moments of his agony at the thought of loosing [sic] his precious Elena embedded a question that has never been answered "How could a parent ever choose this, and how could a country condone such a thing?" We need to recognize that the baby living inside the mother is a helpless and innocent life that needs protection. The proponents of abortion want the baby to be thought of as just a bunch of cells with no real viability of life. When a baby is not considered to be a baby then his death can be thought of as a procedure.

[...]

You'd think he might note the mother's agony, just once...

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Well, they're stem cells. You force them to differentiate into whatever it is you want.

re: #87 wrenchwench

Shortey has himself as competition when it comes to uttering the dumb. His position on abortion? Breech.

You'd think he might note the mother's agony, just once...

Why?
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re: #81 Alouette

All I did was stop eating meat (and by default a lot of the really bad things that used to be in my diet no longer were in my diet) and I lost weight.

But? I still eat stupid things... so... meh... still fat... but not nearly as fat as I could be.

re: #82 Obdicut

Ah. So there was research, not consumables. That makes sense.

Actually, there's no evidence at all that any research like this is being done. The whole silly fake outrage is based on a patent application that mentions a stem cell line labeled HEK293.

More info here: [Link: blogs.miaminewtimes.com...]

It's nonsense - another completely fake story concocted by the religious right.

re: #78 Alouette

Purple fingerling potatoes, if roasted whole, look disturbingly like a bunch of turds.

Some documentary I saw featured a look inside a gene bank for potato varieties...of which they are an amazing number and variety...and while watching mostly I was thinking, "I guess I wonder what they taste like, but that one looks like a cat turd and that one looks like a dog turd..."

I wonder if some ancient, enterprising Peruvian gardener put time and effort into a "make the otherwise tasty, nutritious tuber not look like a lump of feces" cultivar...

Are Aborted Fetus Cells Helping to Make Your Diet Pepsi Sweeter?

So what exactly is HEK293? It's a cell line that started in the 1970s from human embryonic kidney cells. The line was cultured by scientist Alex Van der Eb in the early 1970s at his lab at the University of Leiden, Holland. Since then, the cell line has been cultured and grown in laboratories (you can buy some here). It's primary use is as a protein or a protein vessel -- sort of a natural test tube. It's also pretty common and seems to be available at most laboratory supply companies and used by many R&D facilities. In short, maybe not such a big deal.

So what does all of this mean? Is this "action alert" yet another rant by the right wing to draw attention to itself and delay scientific progress? In my opinion, yes. Children of God for Life has also issued news releases warning parents that childhood vaccines are made with aborted fetus cells. The cells they're talking about have "technically" originated from aborted fetus cells, but it's not like scientists are putting fetus body parts into blenders while laughing. Think of the fetus cells as sort of "ancient ancestors" to the new cells that are readily used today as "building blocks" and receptors in many commonplace scientific experiments in universities, hospitals, and commercial labs.

Senomyx

Senomyx (NASDAQ Ticker symbol: SNMX) is an American biotechnology company that works toward developing additives to amplify certain flavors and smells in foods. Their website claims that it has essentially reverse engineered the receptors in humans that react for taste and aroma, and they are capitalizing on these discoveries to produce chemicals that will make food taste better.
...
In March 2010, it was asserted by the pro-life group Children of God for Life, which monitors the use of cells from aborted babies, that Senomyx uses aborted fetal cells in its products and testing, making use of Human Embryonic Kidney 293 cells (HEK 293). Senomyx has not confirmed this, but the pro-life group cited the Senomyx paper "Human receptors for sweet and umami taste" in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America.[2]
Senomyx lists several large corporate partners or "collaborators" on its website, such as PepsiCo and Nestle. Campbell Soup Company had been a corporate partner since 2001,

Halal! Maybe we should check for a butterball connection.

re: #87 wrenchwench

Shortey has himself as competition when it comes to uttering the dumb. His position on abortion? Breech.

You'd think he might note the mother's agony, just once...

Babies that are "upside down" are in the correct position for a delivery. Babies that are not "upside down" are "breech."

Normally breech deliveries are not even attempted, if a baby is in the breech position it is delivered by Cesarean section.

re: #57 darthstar

This is the kind of asshole who, when he goes to the hospital, asks to have only White Christian blood...like that episode from M*A*S*H when Hawkeye gives a bigot a lesson in being an asshole.

The difference between TV and real life is that bigots sometimes learn a lesson or two on TV.

re: #91 Charles

Well, there's no particular reason why there shouldn't be research in whatever area using these stem cells. They're a cell line. Once you get it started, it goes on forever, and it can be used for a lot of different purposes.

re: #95 Alouette

Babies that are "upside down" are in the correct position for a delivery. Babies that are not "upside down" are "breech."

Normally breech deliveries are not even attempted, if a baby is in the breech position it is delivered by Cesarean section.

You see, Caesar was Roman, and godless. "Breech" is a part of a gun, thus part of our constitution and very American, and god-full.

Throw me another; I can go all day.

re: #93 Charles

Are Aborted Fetus Cells Helping to Make Your Diet Pepsi Sweeter?

Don't the Mormons own Pepsi?
/

re: #97 Obdicut

Well, there's no particular reason why there shouldn't be research in whatever area using these stem cells. They're a cell line. Once you get it started, it goes on forever, and it can be used for a lot of different purposes.

I agree there's no problem in such research - I'm just pointing out that there isn't even any evidence that this kind of research is going on. It's completely invented by a group of fanatics who call themselves "Children of God."

re: #95 Alouette

Babies that are "upside down" are in the correct position for a delivery. Babies that are not "upside down" are "breech."

Normally breech deliveries are not even attempted, if a baby is in the breech position it is delivered by Cesarean section.

That's what I thought. I see no mention of a c-section there. His poor wife!

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't the Mormon's own Pepsi?
/

Pepsi: Pay Every Penny to Save Israel
//I first heard this myth when you could only buy Coke in Israel and Pepsi in the Arab countries.

re: #94 Killgore Trout

Senomyx

Halal! Maybe we should check for a butterball connection.

It's a cover-up. They're actually researching cloning so that the Leader can be regenerated from his surviving nose.

re: #101 wrenchwench

That's what I thought. I see no mention of a c-section there. His poor wife!

Bite your tongue! She was doing Gd's work.
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re: #100 Charles

It's completely invented by a group of fanatics who call themselves "Children of God."

Leave me out of this!
-God

re: #101 wrenchwench

That's what I thought. I see no mention of a c-section there. His poor wife!

Sometimes the baby comes out too fast to perform a c-section (which is what happened with my #3 son), what a practical joker, he came out ass first.

State Senator Ralph Shortey says he’s done research and found reports that companies have used stem cells in the research and development of food.

“I don’t know if it is happening in Oklahoma, it may be, it may not be. What I am saying is that if it does happen then we are not going to allow it to manufacture here,” says Shortey.

Shariah Law!!

By "research" I think Shortey means some really wacko anti-abortion group sent him a shock and awe fund-raising letter alleging the presence of babies in our food.

Our Technology

We created proprietary taste receptor-based assay systems that provide a biochemical or electronic readout when a flavor ingredient interacts with the receptor. To enable faster discovery of new flavors, we integrated our assays into a robot-controlled automated system that uses plates containing an array of individual fluid wells, each of which can screen a different sample from our libraries of approximately 800,000 artificial and natural candidate ingredients isolated from plants and other sources.

Flavor seeking cyborgs!

LGF Irrelevance Watch -- quoted at Politico again: [Link: www.politico.com...]

re: #107 Bulworth

Shariah Law!!

By "research" I think Shortey means some really wacko anti-abortion group sent him a shock and awe fund-raising letter alleging the presence of babies in our food.

He is going over his back issues of Luap Nor newsletters

Heh. "Liberal blogger Charles Johnson..."

They're just not happy unless they put you in a slot.

re: #109 Charles

You are now "liberal blogger".

No one escapes being labeled!

re: #111 Charles

Heh. "Liberal blogger Charles Johnson..."

They're just not happy unless they put you in a slot.

Well, you do blog rather liberally. Not sure about being a Liberal Blogger, though.

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't the Mormons own Pepsi?
/

That sounds like the one I heard about Uni-Mart being run by the Unitarians Universalists.

(PA convenience store chain)

re: #114 oaktree

That sounds like the one I heard about Uni-Mart being run by the Unitarians Universalists.

(PA convenience store chain)

PA = Palestinian Authority
or
PA = Pennsylvania?

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Our Technology

Flavor seeking cyborgs!

When it becomes self-aware it is going to nuke the fastfood industry. And the only survivor is going to be TACO BELL!

Pugsley from the Addams Family is in politics?

re: #111 Charles

Heh. "Liberal blogger Charles Johnson..."

Hell, Charles. People are even calling me a liberal now.

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Our Technology

Flavor seeking cyborgs!

Way to put professional taste testers out of work in a down economy. Assholes.
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re: #115 imp_62

PA = Palestinian Authority
or
PA = Pennsylvania?

Pennsylvania in this case. But the former would actually be an interesting conspiracy theory. Please expound since it might give Dan Brown a semi-plausible plot to use for a novel.

State Senator Ralph Shortey says he’s done research and found reports that companies have used stem cells in the research and development of food.

Cue the next hot item for the GOP-teabag "less government" debates, which the "liberal" media will treat very seriously. Freedom!

re: #83 Killgore Trout

I'd love to know exactly what they were doing. Something about using human kidney cells for an automated taste test but I have no clue how that would work.

It sounds like they're using the cell line to manufacture receptor proteins for gustatory senses, then using the latter to gauge the efficacy of artificial flavor enhancers. I don't know enough about the specific proteins to say how it works, but if they're doing sweeteners it's probably something like "does the new sweetener molecule bond/trigger the receptor protein that reacts with sugars...and what sugar profile does it resemble." There must be some trackable feature of the receptor protein(s)--how it bonds, or reconfigures, or the chain of second mechanisms prompted by binding a sugar--that tells them something about the sweetness of their product.

Edit: you got the info from the horse's mouth before I finished typing that...

re: #27 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Coming next week: A bill banning the sale of guns to apes.

I hope you don't try to include bears. Remember, there is a Constitutional right to keep and arm bears.
Right to keep and arm

re: #81 Alouette

I don't like Weight Watchers because they promote a lot of OCD behavior.

I'm doing it in a way that avoids the OCD. I don't want to sit there and measure 1/4 cup of this and an 1/8 tsp of that. For me, it's a lot of salads, fruits & veggies, and lean protein. I've found foods I like and that are easy to make that will allow me to be full and still feel like I'm eating normally.

I think it's when people get obsessive that there's a problem.

re: #123 Shiplord Kirel

I hope you don't try to include bears. Remember, there is a Constitutional right to keep and arm bears.
Right to keep and arm

Come now, you know what they say...

"Guns don't kill people, apes with guns kill people."

re: #112 Obdicut

You are now "liberal blogger".

No one escapes being labeled!

I am not a number liberal, I am a free man!

They need a special clause if the fetuses are halal.

/

Here's the website of the batshit loony group that started this fake outrage:

[Link: www.cogforlife.org...]

Has all the signs of a website run by crazy people. Only thing missing are the animated GIFs.

“There is a potential that there are companies that are using aborted human babies in their research and development of basically enhancing flavor for artificial flavors,” says Shortey."

Uh-huh.

re: #109 Charles

LGF Irrelevance Watch -- quoted at Politico again: [Link: www.politico.com...]

My comment on Politico:

I think we should scan him internally with an ultrasound wand and make him watch it on a monitor. That way we and he can all see how full of it he really is.

re: #101 wrenchwench

That's what I thought. I see no mention of a c-section there. His poor wife!

His account may also be misunderstood, or bullshit, or misunderstood bullshit. I can only assume that his wife's OB/GYN did not stand blithely by and go, "Oh, the baby is breech, and the cord's wrapped around its neck, time to pray, people." For one thing, you don't find these things out with eleven minutes to go to the birth.

This is not to say that they didn't run into trouble and danger with the birth, just that what he's saying doesn't entirely make sense by itself.

re: #128 Charles

Only thing missing are the animated GIFs.

*snort* QFT

Any bets on the first commercial product Shortey will accuse of using "aborted human babies" in their food?

I got dibs on tofu.

re: #127 ralphieboy

They need a special clause if the fetuses are halal.

/

Think it through. If the personhood bills hold true than every cell of these stem cell lines is a person. If employed in the US does every one then need a green card?

re: #122 The Ghost of a Flea

It sounds like they're using the cell line to manufacture receptor proteins for gustatory senses, then using the latter to gauge the efficacy of artificial flavor enhancers. I don't know enough about the specific proteins to say how it works, but if they're doing sweeteners it's probably something like "does the new sweetener molecule bond/trigger the receptor protein that reacts with sugars...and what sugar profile does it resemble." There must be some trackable feature of the receptor protein(s)--how it bonds, or reconfigures, or the chain of second mechanisms prompted by binding a sugar--that tells them something about the sweetness of their product.

It's really interesting stuff. Even more amazing that the patent was filed for way back in the 70's. There's some real brainiacs out there.
After looking around their webpage I'm just creeped out by our whole food industry. Just feeding chemicals through automated tasting machinery in some laboratory. It's pretty gross to think about the food industry.
The stems cells are the least objectionable aspect to me.

re: #125 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Come now, you know what they say...

"Guns don't kill people, apes with guns kill people."

Some idiots in west Africa actually tried that, with predictable results:

A much bigger threat has been identified elsewhere:

re: #133 Slumbering Behemoth

Any bets on the first commercial product Shortey will accuse of using "aborted human babies" in their food?

I got dibs on tofu.

Something halal. Or kosher. //

re: #133 Slumbering Behemoth

Any bets on the first commercial product Shortey will accuse of using "aborted human babies" in their food?

I got dibs on tofu.

I would actually guess at something more overtly mainstream, which they can encourage a huge boycott of.

re: #137 CuriousLurker

Something halal. Or kosher. //

Butterball! Eleventy!

re: #137 CuriousLurker

My Xmas Butterball turkey didn't have any aborted babies in it. Tons of smokey, BBQ awesomeness, but no babies.

re: #138 SanFranciscoZionist

Tiny Vienna sausages?

SOTU tonight. I just had a childhood nightmare flashback.

Remember when you were a kid and the President was on? And he was on all three channels (except for PBS)?

God, that was awful.

About these foodstuffs containing aborted foetuses:

I believe and I think the right approach is to accept this horribly created — in the sense of foetusfood— but nevertheless a gift in a very broken way, the gift of human life, and accept what God has given to you.

re: #138 SanFranciscoZionist

I would actually guess at something more overtly mainstream, which they can encourage a huge boycott of.

Hormel Chili.

re: #142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

SOTU tonight. I just had a childhood nightmare flashback.

Remember when the President was on? And he was on all three channels (except for PBS)?

God, that was awful.

One of my early childhood memories is of being very annoyed that my favorite cartoons weren't on because some president (JFK) had just been shot...

re: #138 SanFranciscoZionist

I would actually guess at something more overtly mainstream, which they can encourage a huge boycott of.

McAnything

re: #145 ralphieboy

Eggzackery.

re: #133 Slumbering Behemoth

Any bets on the first commercial product Shortey will accuse of using "aborted human babies" in their food?

I got dibs on tofu.

Here you go - there's already a list: [Link: www.cogforlife.org...]

re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth

My Xmas Butterball turkey didn't have any aborted babies in it. Tons of smokey, BBQ awesomeness, but no babies.

Butterball? Well then you were eating halal food which, in my book is waaay worse than aborted human baby turkey

///

re: #148 Charles

Vaccines Containing Aborted Fetal Cells
And the Manufacturers:
MMR II (Merck)
ProQuad (MMR + Chickenpox – Merck)
Varivax (Chickenpox – Merck)
Pentacel (Polio + DTaP + HiB – Sanofi Pasteur)
Vaqta (Hepatitis-A – Merck)
Havrix (Hepatitis-A – Glaxo SmithKline)
Twinrix (Hepatitis-A and B combo – Glaxo)
Zostavax (Shingles – Merck)
Imovax (Rabies – Sanofi Pasteur)

Oh fuck them, they're anti-vaxxers too. Fuck them.

re: #142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And tv stations would sign off for the night with this.

On a more serious note, this has to be one of the most disgusting and depraved propaganda stunts I can remember in my lifetime, especially since it involves an abuse of the legislative and legal process.

re: #150 Obdicut

That's who I was trying to think of the other night. I made a list of the stupidest people? And I totally forgot Vaxxers. Am I gonna have to add "Stemmers" too?

1. Troofers
2. Nirthers
3. Vaxxers
4. Mooners

re: #148 Charles

Here you go - there's already a list: [Link: www.cogforlife.org...]

Aquafina water? Damn.

re: #148 Charles

Vaccines Containing Aborted Fetal Cells
And the Manufacturers:
MMR II (Merck)
ProQuad (MMR + Chickenpox – Merck)
Varivax (Chickenpox – Merck)
Pentacel (Polio + DTaP + HiB – Sanofi Pasteur)
Vaqta (Hepatitis-A – Merck)
Havrix (Hepatitis-A – Glaxo SmithKline)
Twinrix (Hepatitis-A and B combo – Glaxo)
Zostavax (Shingles – Merck)
Imovax (Rabies – Sanofi Pasteur)
Other medicines:
Pulmozyme (Cystic Fibrosis – Genetech)
Enbrel (Rheumatoid Arthritis – Amgen)
Note: Moral options exist for Rabies, Polio,
Rheumatoid Arthritis. Separate moral options
currently not available for Measles and Mumps.

These people are all self-selecting for eradication by contagious disease, anyway.

re: #154 Killgore Trout

Aquafina water? Damn.

Aquafina is just tap water.

re: #148 Charles

What the...

re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Does mooning at a football game count for being a mooner??
..is there a statute if limitation on mooning?
or...should I call a lawyer??

re: #156 Alouette

Aquafina is just tap water.

I guess the baby chunks are just for added flavor.

re: #135 Killgore Trout

It's really interesting stuff. Even more amazing that the patent was filed for way back in the 70's. There's some real brainiacs out there.
After looking around their webpage I'm just creeped out by our whole food industry. Just feeding chemicals through automated tasting machinery in some laboratory. It's pretty gross to think about the food industry.
The stems cells are the least objectionable aspect to me.

I'm fascinated by the tech, but kind of -meh- about what will come from it--a lot of that stuff goes into making inferior foodstuffs palatable rather than elevating food as a whole. I'm also a little ticked that what they're discovering is proprietary.

What confuses me is they're talking about tongue receptors, which are limited (so far) to sweet/salt/sour/bitter/glutamate distinction: the nuances of flavor are determined by a much more complicated system in the nose. So I wonder what they're making, and what sensory properties it has.

re: #158 reloadingisnotahobby

Different "mooning".

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction The Onion.

re: #151 Slumbering Behemoth

And tv stations would sign off for the night with this.

And the Soviets like this:

At about 40 seconds a loud beeping sounds and an announcement to turn off your TV.

re: #154 Killgore Trout

Aquafina water? Damn.

Here in Royston McVasey. we use Aqua Vita. Absolutely free.

re: #159 Killgore Trout

I guess the baby chunks are just for added flavor.

Shhh. Talk like that will give the Dogfish Head Brewery ideas...

re: #163 ralphieboy

Wait, they had tv when you were a kid?
///

re: #87 wrenchwench

Shortey has himself as competition when it comes to uttering the dumb. His position on abortion? Breech.

You'd think he might note the mother's agony, just once...

I was born breech, with the cord wrapped around my neck. My mother had a habit of reminding me of those facts when I pissed her off.

re: #167 Talking Point Detective

Threatening to "choke you out"?

re: #166 Slumbering Behemoth

Wait, they had tv when you were a kid?
///

Three whole channels.

re: #160 The Ghost of a Flea

I'm fascinated by the tech, but kind of -meh- about what will come from it--a lot of that stuff goes into making inferior foodstuffs palatable rather than elevating food as a whole. I'm also a little ticked that what they're discovering is proprietary.

No doubt - much of the focus is simply to help companies make more money. That said, some of the research goes into ways to make foods that "taste sweet" without all the calories. That could have some serious implications for the obesity epidemic. I would imagine that there are other, more positive applications as well.

re: #166 Slumbering Behemoth

Wait, they had tv when you were a kid?
///

Well, they had to come up with something, as cave painting and watching the fire burn got boring after awhile.

///

Cue the 'splodey heads:

Abortion safer than giving birth: study

re: #167 Talking Point Detective

I was born breech, with the cord wrapped around my neck. My mother had a habit of reminding me of those facts when I pissed her off.

Me too...lol (apart from the cord being wrapped around the neck) :)

re: #167 Talking Point Detective

I was born breech, with the cord wrapped around my neck. My mother had a habit of reminding me of those facts when I pissed her off.

Oh, and I was born in July. A notably hot July. My mother didn't forget that, either.

Among deranged Russian national-patriots there was a rumor in the beginning of 2000s (and perhaps in 1990s) that aborted fetuses were used for production of some sort of rejuvenating drugs, and that Yeltsin, among others, used these drugs.

[Link: www.compromat.ru...]

re: #172 Lidane

Cue the 'splodey heads:

Abortion safer than giving birth: study

The study was biased! It was funded by a pro-abortion government grant! The researchers were pro-abortion women! IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!

re: #171 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm starting to think that there is an appropriate The Far Side strip for almost every conversation.

re: #166 Slumbering Behemoth

Wait, they had tv when you were a kid?
///

yes, and we had one of the early color sets, around 1965, which I grew up sitting about eighteen inches in front of...

re: #172 Lidane

Cue the 'splodey heads:

Abortion safer than giving birth: study

This article and the phrasing of the study are all part of the problem. Abortion is a medical procedure on a woman. Birth is the delivery of a baby. Turning birth into a pathology makes it possible to make "abortion" the opposite of "birth". IT IS NOT

I did not express myself very well here. But I hope you get the drift.

re: #175 Sergey Romanov

Among deranged Russian national-patriots there was a rumor in the beginning of 2000s (and perhaps in 1990s) that aborted fetuses were used for production of some sort of rejuvenating drugs, and that Yeltsin, among others, used these drugs.

[Link: www.compromat.ru...]

So is that what's all those ads on Huffington Post:

55 year old Mom looks 25! Doctors hate her!
57 year old Mom looks 23! Botox docs are scared!
51 year old Mom looks 21! Dermatologists hate her!
etc.

re: #180 Alouette

Yes! Yeltsin's serum! Inquire at the Bank of Nikolai. Ask for Nikolai.

//

re: #172 Lidane

Cue the 'splodey heads:

Abortion safer than giving birth: study

We should pass laws requiring that only true facts can be part of informed consent. From your link:

Depending on the state, however, doctors legally must go over the risks of abortion in language that may be misleading, researchers said, with skewed lists of possible complications. Others require a 24-hour waiting period in between the counseling and the abortion itself.

Harwood said that laws regarding what's said between the doctor and a woman seeking an abortion often hamper doctors' attempts to inform patients in a balanced way.

"It is certainly an impediment to have the state dictate my informed consent process beyond the usual," Harwood told Reuters Health.

"Abortion care and pregnancy care should not really be any different than consenting people for any other procedure."

Davis agreed that state-mandated discussions have no place in abortion counseling. She said she was glad to see the new report, which helps dispel "misinformation" and "lies" about abortion risks included in some state laws -- such as the idea that abortion is linked to cancer.

"Women who are having abortions are having a safe, common surgical procedure or taking medication for the same reason," she told Reuters Health

"They should feel confident that the medical care they're having is safe, long-term and short-term."

re: #180 Alouette

So is that what's all those ads on Huffington Post:

55 year old Mom looks 25! Doctors hate her!
57 year old Mom looks 23! Botox docs are scared!
51 year old Mom looks 21! Dermatologists hate her!
etc.

21 Dermatologists eat 57 Moms! Zombie lobby outraged!

re: #181 Sergey Romanov

Yes! Yeltsin's serum! Inquire at the Bank of Nikolai. Ask for Nikolai.

//

If Nikolai is out does Peggy take you call?

re: #172 Lidane

Cue the 'splodey heads:

Abortion safer than giving birth: study

This is not remotely surprising.

re: #181 Sergey Romanov

Yes! Yeltsin's serum! Inquire at the Bank of Nikolai. Ask for Nikolai.

//

This is Peggy. This week we have credits. Next week they are coupons!
/

re: #184 Alouette

If Nikolai is out does Peggy take you call?

Yes, if Peggy no on vacation.

THAT is a textbook case of cultural conditioning. Thank you TV.

This stuff is giving me flashbacks. Reminds me of Muslim forums/websites/chain mails where they have lists of food that have supposedly been injected with "pig extracts" (and other mysterious "harmful chemicals") by "Zionist terrorists" who wish to infect Muslims with diseases (and at the same time fund their other nefarious activities—they're diabolically clever like that, y'know). No doubt this is done by evil Israeli scientists working feverishly in secret labs in Israel under the watchful eye of the Mossad.

Okay, I'm exaggerating, but only a little bit. I found this semi-hysterical example in less than 5 seconds.

Sepoy Rebellion.

re: #185 chunkymonkey

Appendectomies are also safer than giving birth. On the other hand, triple bypass surgery is more dangerous than giving birth. Correlation without causation. Anybody who discusses abortion as an alternative to birth in a medical context is falling prey to reactionary logic.

re: #189 CuriousLurker

"No one should be drinking anything that is coloured black. What on earth are they trying to cover up?"

*SPOILER ALERT*

The secret ingredient is not from Earth.

/bwahahahaha!

re: #172 Lidane

Cue the 'splodey heads:

Abortion safer than giving birth: study

Won't convince the anti-right people. "Over 50% of people die from abortions," goes the line.

(Wish that was sarcasm)

re: #192 Slumbering Behemoth

"No one should be drinking anything that is coloured black.

Just out of the pub, and our beers were coloured black. So there!

* It's almost Burns Night here, and there's a lot of dark beer about...

re: #194 iceweasel

Just out of the pub, and our beers were coloured black. So there!

* It's almost Burns Night here, and there's a lot of dark beer about...

Why you leaving the pub so early?

re: #195 imp_62

Why you leaving the pub so early?

We hadn't eaten dinner!

re: #194 iceweasel

Just out of the pub, and our beers were coloured black. So there!

* It's almost Burns Night here, and there's a lot of dark beer about...

Today we have been drinking mostly "Dark Island" feaTURING nICHOLAS ?cAGE)

re: #193 kirkspencer

Won't convince the anti-right people. "Over 50% of people die from abortions," goes the line.

(Wish that was sarcasm)

"Gee I really want this baby, but abortion is safer, so I guess I'll have to have an abortion."

//because choice is just like, uh, like buying a new car!

Speaking of "The Far Side"... The GOP if Newt is the nominee.

re: #196 iceweasel

We hadn't eaten dinner!

Oh, what, a ploughman's not good enough for the great iceweasel ;) ?

re: #198 Alouette

That's not the point. Abortion is often seen and portrayed as a dangerous procedure, when it's safer than the alternative.

Epic logo design WIN!

re: #193 kirkspencer

Won't convince the anti-right people. "Over 50% of people die from abortions," goes the line.

(Wish that was sarcasm)

We researched a list of women who had abortions 100 years ago and found that every single one of them has since died! Coincidence?

re: #194 iceweasel

Just out of the pub, and our beers were coloured black. So there!

re: #197 Jimmah

Today we have been drinking mostly "Dark Island" feaTURING nICHOLAS ?cAGE)

Well, it was nice knowing you two. You're clearly doomed.

re: #200 imp_62

Oh, what, a ploughman's not good enough for the great iceweasel ;) ?

pLOUGHMAN'S LUNCH WAs an advertising campaign dreamt up by Salman Rushdie, of all people. Just so you know ;)

re: #203 aagcobb

We researched a list of women who had abortions 100 years ago and found that every single one of them has since died! Coincidence?

Ben Cartwright lost all three of his wives in childbirth.

Having wiped the tears of laughter from my eyes and looked at the list of what you shouldn't consume because it contains people, I can't help but notice that Oklahoma apparently wants to outlaw soft drinks and candy. I thought that was something only liberals want?

re: #205 Jimmah

Is that true? That's awesome.

re: #205 Jimmah

pLOUGHMAN'S LUNCH WAs an advertising campaign dreamt up by Salman Rushdie, of all people. Just so you know ;)

so all those delicious platters I have consumed to sop up my Scrumpy Jack were all in my mind ???

re: #207 calochortus

Having wiped the tears of laughter from my eyes and looked at the list of what you shouldn't consume because it contains people, I can't help but notice that Oklahoma apparently wants to outlaw soft drinks and candy. I thought that was something only liberals want?

Not only that, but liberals were "big government nannies" for suggesting should be regulated or banned in certain circumstances, like say from school cafeterias. "Give the kids choice!"

re: #205 Jimmah

pLOUGHMAN'S LUNCH WAs an advertising campaign dreamt up by Salman Rushdie, of all people. Just so you know ;)

Ploughman's Platter at the "pub" near my house? Is the vegetarian wrap... with hummus...

Just doesn't sound very "UK" to me.

re: #207 calochortus

Having wiped the tears of laughter from my eyes and looked at the list of what you shouldn't consume because it contains people, I can't help but notice that Oklahoma apparently wants to outlaw soft drinks and candy. I thought that was something only liberals want?

Liberals want that because candy and soda make you fat.

Conservative nutbars want that because ZOMG BABEEZ.

re: #207 calochortus

Having wiped the tears of laughter from my eyes and looked at the list of what you shouldn't consume because it contains people, I can't help but notice that Oklahoma apparently wants to outlaw soft drinks and candy. I thought that was something only liberals want?

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

re: #208 Obdicut

Is that true? That's awesome.

Yeah he totally invented it. Also came up with "go to work on an egg".

re: #214 Jimmah

Yeah he totally invented it. Also came up with "go to work on an egg".

I'm not finding any references to this anywhere. Is this in a biography of him?

I should read a biography of him.

Martin Bashir is HAMMERING Rep Joe Walsh on MSNBC over his promise not to add another dollar to the backs of his constituents - while being delinquent on childsupport payments that are tying up state dollars to resolve.

re: #205 Jimmah

pLOUGHMAN'S LUNCH WAs an advertising campaign dreamt up by Salman Rushdie, of all people. Just so you know ;)

I'm not a fan of Rushdie for obvious reasons, but this didn't bring me any great joy either: Threat of Violence Quashes Even Virtual Rushdie Appearance

re: #214 Jimmah

Yeah he totally invented it. Also came up with "go to work on an egg".

The story of how the ploughman’s lunch, or ploughman’s for short, came to be is also somewhat boring. Given its name, you’d think it was something brought to ploughman centuries ago to eat in the middle of fields at midday, but that doesn’t appear to have been the case. Apparently, ploughman’s lunch was actually the product of a marketing campaign organized by the Milk Marketing Board in the 1960s, the objective of which was to convince more people to eat cheese. That being said, there’s also some evidence that a similar dish did in fact exist during the Second World War under a different name, “the ploughboy’s lunch.”

re: #12 reloadingisnotahobby

Just what the hell does Sen...Shortey know and when did he
know it??
Quickly now ...I'm not eatting ANYTHING till I find out!!
...Shit...it's lunch time...///

Would you like a nice Chianti with that?

re: #213 imp_62

The random knowledge base of people here never ceases to amaze me.

re: #215 Obdicut

I'm not finding any references to this anywhere. Is this in a biography of him?

I should read a biography of him.

I remeber it from a documentary on advertising.

re: #212 Lidane

Liberals want that because candy and soda make you fat.

Conservative nutbars want that because ZOMG BABEEZ.

Candy and soda doesn't make you fat. Lack of moderation and a sedentary lifestyle makes you fat.

re: #87 wrenchwench

Shortey has himself as competition when it comes to uttering the dumb. His position on abortion? Breech.

You'd think he might note the mother's agony, just once...

Gosh, what a load of crapola.

Side note: My brother was born breech.

Second side note: Shortey, it's "breech," not "breach."

re: #209 imp_62

so all those delicious platters I have consumed to sop up my Scrumpy Jack were all in my mind ???

Yep you can get ploughman's lunch all over the place now - the power of advertising!

re: #222 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, shut up.

re: #224 Jimmah

Yep you can get ploughman's lunch all over the place now - the power of advertising!

If it isn't of indeterminate age and under cellophane, with bits of cheddar and pickle, it's not real!

re: #224 Jimmah

Yep you can get ploughman's lunch all over the place now - the power of advertising!

I would kill babies for a scotch egg right now.

PUT THAT IN YOUR ANTI-ABORTION LEAFLET

re: #225 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think I shall change my nic to "Fat Bastard Alcoholic".

re: #227 iossarian

I would kill babies for a scotch egg right now.

PUT THAT IN YOUR ANTI-ABORTION LEAFLET

There are only two appropriate times to eat scotch egg. Before you go on a bender, and the morning after.

I think perhaps the most disturbing part about a devise that tastes things is the concept that what you will likely end up with is a device that says "This is sweet", "This is sweeter", "This is so sweet it will blow out the taste buds of any actual human who tastes it." Then the company execs say-"Perfect! Let's go with the last one."

re: #222 Slumbering Behemoth

Candy and soda doesn't make you fat. Lack of moderation and a sedentary lifestyle makes you fat.

Well, yes. But if we narrow down the arguments about regulating the sale of soda and candy to their Fox News talking points, liberals want it because those things make you fat and ZOMG NANNY STATE and conservatives want it to save the unborn.

re: #228 Slumbering Behemoth

I think I shall change my nic to "Fat Bastard Alcoholic".

Cheers!!...*burp*

re: #230 calochortus

If only Willy Wonka had such technology. We would all be his mindless, zombie thralls.

re: #229 imp_62

There are only two appropriate times to eat scotch egg. Before you go on a bender, and the morning after.

One guest on the Tyra Banks show was there because he had a fear of scotch eggs that he feared was going to ruin his wedding.

re: #218 imp_62

And unless I'm sadly mistaken Mr Rushdie was the dude who came up with it for them. (But then I was very, very drunk at the time...)

re: #227 iossarian

I would kill babies for a scotch egg right now.

PUT THAT IN YOUR ANTI-ABORTION LEAFLET

We all knew it was coming. Here it is.

re: #233 Slumbering Behemoth

If only Willy Wonka had such technology. We would all be his mindless, zombie thralls.

I'm too tall to be an Oompa-Loompa.

//

re: #233 Slumbering Behemoth

If only Willy Wonka had such technology. We would all be his mindless, zombie thralls.

We already are. Everything is sweet. Salad dressing is sweet, bread is sweet. It's a combination of the cheap availability of high fructose corn sugar and the progressive deadening of the American palate.

re: #197 Jimmah

Today we have been drinking mostly "Dark Island" feaTURING nICHOLAS ?cAGE)

And here it os - tasty!

[Link: 1.bp.blogspot.com...]

re: #238 calochortus

We already are. Everything is sweet. Salad dressing is sweet, bread is sweet. It's a combination of the cheap availability of high fructose corn sugar and the progressive deadening of the American palate.

I just ate a fish curry that wasn't sweet.

Then again, I did make it myself. And I don't live in the US.

re: #240 HAL2010

That would explain it. I'm making more and more from scratch. Fortunately I don't mind and I have the time.

Ahhh NUTS!!
The Mrs. texted me the Bank excepted our offer on a 1901 house to flip!!
..no point registering the boat for the next...ah...TWO FUC&^% YEARS!!

mumble ...grumble...

re: #238 calochortus

Well, it's not just an American problem, but I take your point.

I get an inexpensive brand of wheat bread... "Honey Wheat Berry", from Cascade Pride. No HFC, just a little honey.

re: #240 HAL2010

I just ate a fish curry that wasn't sweet.

Then again, I did make it myself. And I don't live in the US.

It was a baby fish, wasn't it? Admit it.

o.t.

when people claim that a capital gains tax means that the money is "taxed twice" - what is the first time it's taxed supposed to be?

re: #241 calochortus

That would explain it. I'm making more and more from scratch. Fortunately I don't mind and I have the time.

It's great, I love making food. I find it very calming.

re: #241 calochortus

I'm making more and more from scratch.

Tastes better, costs less, and you have total control of what goes into it. Highly recommended.

re: #245 engineer dog

o.t.

when people claim that a capital gains tax means that the money is "taxed twice" - what is the first time it's taxed supposed to be?

As corporate income prior to distribution to shareholders. This would make a little sense if corporations actually paid taxes...

re: #247 Slumbering Behemoth

...your also responsible if it tastes like shit ...just sayin...

re: #244 imp_62

It was a baby fish, wasn't it? Admit it.

Of course not, outrageous!
It was human baby flavoured.

/

re: #245 engineer dog

o.t.

when people claim that a capital gains tax means that the money is "taxed twice" - what is the first time it's taxed supposed to be?

Corporate income tax; though any corporation that actually pays a corporate income tax doesn't have very good accountants or tax attorneys.

re: #243 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, it's not just an American problem, but I take your point.

I get an inexpensive brand of wheat bread... "Honey Wheat Berry", from Cascade Pride. No HFC, just a little honey.

I make my own bread-have for years because it's just that good. :-) Orowheat makes a pretty decent whole wheat bread too.

I pay for my groceries with money that's already been taxed...why do I need to pay a sales tax?.

Oh, yeah, police, roads, firefighters, hospitals...

re: #249 reloadingisnotahobby

Did you just insult my Tri-Tip?!?! Why you mother-fff...
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re: #253 wozzablog

I pay for my groceries with money that's already been taxed...why do I need to pay a sales tax?.

Oh, yeah, police, roads, firefighters, hospitals...

If you're paying a sales tax when you buy groceries, you are getting robbed. That's illegal.
:P

re: #31 Charles

Doesn't take long to discover that this website is a quack "health products" site.

Sort of like HuFu, even though that was satire/humor...makes sense that a nutjob would even go this route.