Excerpts from the State of the Union Speech

“I intend to fight obstruction with action”

PoliticsJanuary 2012 • Views: 36,589

Think about the America within our reach: A country that leads the world in educating its people. An America that attracts a new generation of high-tech manufacturing and high-paying jobs. A future where we’re in control of our own energy, and our security and prosperity aren’t so tied to unstable parts of the world. An economy built to last, where hard work pays off, and responsibility is rewarded…

The defining issue of our time is how to keep that promise alive. No challenge is more urgent. No debate is more important. We can either settle for a country where a shrinking number of people do really well, while a growing number of Americans barely get by. Or we can restore an economy where everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same set of rules. What’s at stake are not Democratic values or Republican values, but American values. We have to reclaim them…

As long as I’m President, I will work with anyone in this chamber to build on this momentum. But I intend to fight obstruction with action, and I will oppose any effort to return to the very same policies that brought on this economic crisis in the first place.

No, we will not go back to an economy weakened by outsourcing, bad debt, and phony financial profits. Tonight, I want to speak about how we move forward, and lay out a blueprint for an economy that’s built to last – an economy built on American manufacturing, American energy, skills for American workers, and a renewal of American values.”…

Let’s never forget: Millions of Americans who work hard and play by the rules every day deserve a government and a financial system that does the same. It’s time to apply the same rules from top to bottom: No bailouts, no handouts, and no copouts. An America built to last insists on responsibility from everybody.

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168 comments

aagcobb Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:16:25pm

If there were still any sane Republicans, they could give that speech.

Schadenfreude 'r' Us Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:16:38pm

...and not a single ad hominem attack. Amazing.

dragonfire1981 Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:17:19pm

"Or we can restore an economy where everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same set of rules."

OMG SOCIALISM ELEVENTY!!

simoom Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:18:26pm

Fox Nation's spin on the Romney tax return release.

Headline:

WHO'S GREEDY? Obama Gave 1% to Charity, Romney Gave 15%

From the President's 2010 returns:

[Link: money.cnn.com...]

The Obamas reported paying $453,770 in federal taxes. They donated $245,075, or 14% of their income, to 36 different charities. Fisher House Foundation, a charity that works with veterans, took home the biggest single donation.

Also being overlooked by Fox, there was a further 1.4 million dollars given directly to charity in 2010:

[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]

Three months after receiving the Nobel Peace Prize, President Obama announced Thursday the charities that will benefit from his $1.4 million cash award.

Targetpractice Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:18:45pm

And look for the Republicans to sit on their hands on the entire time, most with scowls on their faces.

Four More Tears Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:20:02pm

re: #4 simoom

Does that 15% include his tithe?

Iwouldprefernotto Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:20:36pm

What will this year's "you lie" be? Any guesses?

Alexzander Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:21:08pm

Because I am such a politics geek, I am actually going to avoid reading this until after the speech.

Obdicut Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:22:09pm

re: #6 JasonA

Yes.

Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:22:13pm

LGF Irrelevance Watch -- quoted at The Hill's Blog Briefing Room.

jaunte Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:22:24pm

It’s time to apply the same rules from top to bottom

Redistribution!

Obdicut Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:22:47pm

re: #7 Iwouldprefernotto

What will this year's "you lie" be? Any guesses?

I wouldn't be surprised by open boos. The GOP has lost its mind. We'll see if they can even behave for an evening.

goddamnedfrank Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:24:39pm

I hope he ends tonight's speech with "It's on like Donkey Kong, bitches!"

Targetpractice Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:25:13pm

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

I hope he ends tonight's speech with "It's on like Donkey Kong, bitches!"

Nah, better to go with "You think I'm joking? Try me."

simoom Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:27:06pm

re: #6 JasonA

Does that 15% include his tithe?

It seems to be an avg of Romney's charitable donations claimed in his current returns and his 2011 estimate. The extremely brief Fox nation article just has this little text table:

Tax year Taxable income Charitable donations Donations as % of income 2010 $21.7 million $2.98 million 13.73% 2011 (est) $20.9 million $4 million 19.14%

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:28:33pm

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

"King Kong ain't got shit on me" has a nice ring to it.

ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:30:24pm

There is an Egyptian in one of my classes this semester. So, I decided to just have a chat with him to try and understand the politics of the country a bit more.

Apparently, my anti-Salafi sentiment would not be out of place there. And neither would the intensity or name-calling.

goddamnedfrank Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:32:30pm

re: #4 simoom

Romney won't be releasing any further tax returns because it's likely that he took a huge capital loss in 2008 and/or 2009 and ended up paying 0% in at least one of those two years.

BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:35:25pm

Deep thought: life isn't always like the Transformers movies.
---Jimmah, five minutes ago.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:40:08pm

re: #19 iceweasel

Deep thought: life isn't always like the Transformers movies.
---Jimmah, five minutes ago.

The wine must be good!

chunkymonkey Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:40:39pm

A future where we’re in control of our own energy, and our security and prosperity aren’t so tied to unstable parts of the world.

Right, which is why we killed the pipeline from Canada, heaven forbid we get our energy from a place as unstable as that, eh?

Lidane Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:41:23pm

re: #10 Charles

LGF Irrelevance Watch -- quoted at The Hill's Blog Briefing Room.

I love how they make it sound like you're being unreasonable. That's hilarious.

chunkymonkey Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:41:31pm

It’s time to apply the same rules from top to bottom: No bailouts, no handouts, and no copouts.

Bwah hah ha!

Vicious Babushka Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:41:44pm

re: #21 chunkymonkey

Right, which is why we killed the pipeline from Canada, heaven forbid we get our energy from a place as unstable as that, eh?

That is NOT the reason the pipeline was denied.

Lidane Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:41:55pm

re: #21 chunkymonkey

Right, which is why we killed the pipeline from Canada, heaven forbid we get our energy from a place as unstable as that, eh?

You mean the export pipeline from Canada that would have sent all that oil to China?

Schadenfreude 'r' Us Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:42:12pm

re: #21 chunkymonkey

The pipeline would have carried oil to US ports, to be shipped to China. We do get a lot of our oil from Canada, by the way.

Schadenfreude 'r' Us Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:42:42pm

re: #25 Lidane

...and get out of my head.

chunkymonkey Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:45:38pm

re: #24 Alouette
Was there something wrong with the Canadian oil then? Or was it pure politics. Of course you are going to say that it's politics and blame the republicans. The Democrats NEVER play politics, right?

[deleted] Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:45:43pm

The Questionable Timing of a Flea Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:45:49pm

re: #25 Lidane

You mean the export pipeline from Canada that would have sent all that oil to China?

...and because of the demand that no more feasibility or safety checks, potentially could contaminate one of the most important aquifers in the US?

Totally worth 1000 (maybe) permanent jobs.

Lidane Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:47:40pm

re: #28 chunkymonkey

Was there something wrong with the Canadian oil then? Or was it pure politics. Of course you are going to say that it's politics and blame the republicans. The Democrats NEVER play politics, right?

You're being deliberately dense. The United States was never going to see any of the Keystone XL oil. The pipeline was going to go from Canada through the US to our ports, then sent overseas.

What part of that is hard to understand?

chunkymonkey Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:47:42pm

re: #26 C1nnabar

The pipeline would have carried oil to US ports, to be shipped to China. We do get a lot of our oil from Canada, by the way.

Aren't the Canadians now saying that they're going to ship direct to China anyway? So what's the problem?

Also, according to the Keystone wiki page, you are mistaken. All that Canadian oil was primarily destined for US refineries.

Vicious Babushka Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:48:20pm

re: #28 chunkymonkey

Was there something wrong with the Canadian oil then? Or was it pure politics. Of course you are going to say that it's politics and blame the republicans. The Democrats NEVER play politics, right?

The pipeline was routed to pass through some very sensitive areas (like, the Oglala Aquifer which is the water source for 40% of the United States) and there was not adequate guarantee that it would not contaminate the water supply.

So there's that.

It not because Canadians suck.

chunkymonkey Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:48:30pm

re: #31 Lidane

You're being deliberately dense. The United States was never going to see any of the Keystone XL oil. The pipeline was going to go from Canada through the US to our ports, then sent overseas.

What part of that is hard to understand?

See my post #32, this is untrue. Do you have sources to back up your claims?

Targetpractice Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:48:39pm

re: #28 chunkymonkey

Was there something wrong with the Canadian oil then? Or was it pure politics. Of course you are going to say that it's politics and blame the republicans. The Democrats NEVER play politics, right?

Did the Democrats jam a 60 day deadline on the decision into a "must-pass" bill? Is Nancy Pelosi the one now insisting that a further extension of the payroll tax holiday will be dependent on approval of the pipeline?

Jimmi the Grey Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:48:41pm

re: #21 chunkymonkey

Right, which is why we killed the pipeline from Canada, heaven forbid we get our energy from a place as unstable as that, eh?

Maybe we should worry about the unstable aspects of getting our energy from non-renewable sources.

Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:49:24pm

re: #19 iceweasel

Deep thought: life isn't always like the Transformers movies.
---Jimmah, five minutes ago.

It's not?
///
LOL!

Vicious Babushka Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:49:45pm

re: #32 chunkymonkey

Aren't the Canadians now saying that they're going to ship direct to China anyway? So what's the problem?

Also, according to the Keystone wiki page, you are mistaken. All that Canadian oil was primarily destined for US refineries.

And then to China!

BTW how many US refineries are owned by the Koch brothers?

Robert O. Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:50:06pm

I hope the delivery will be good.... I read the excerpts and I came away thinking Obama could be using far more forceful language than he is using here (think FDR, for example). He is speaking to what most Americans now see as a "do-nothing" Congress. The Presidency is often described as a bully pulpit. Obama could really use the opportunity to hit home economic truths, dispel right-wing myth-making, and forcefully assert his economic agenda with all the free air time he is getting.

chunkymonkey Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:50:14pm

re: #33 Alouette

So instead we're going to ship it from the Middle East and remain "tied to unstable parts of the world"?

Alexzander Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:50:58pm

re: #34 chunkymonkey

See my post #32, this is untrue. Do you have sources to back up your claims?

Here you go:

Energy Security: Tar Sand will not Reduce Dependence on Foreign Oil

Keystone XL will not lessen U.S. dependence on foreign oil, but transport Canadian oil to American refineries for export to overseas markets.

Keystone XL is an export pipeline. According to presentations to investors, Gulf Coast refiners plan to refine the cheap Canadian crude supplied by the pipeline into diesel and other products for export to Europe and Latin America. Proceeds from these exports are earned tax-free. Much of the fuel refined from the pipeline’s heavy crude oil will never reach U.S. drivers’ tanks.

[Link: www.tarsandsaction.org...]

Targetpractice Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:51:35pm

re: #40 chunkymonkey

So instead we're going to ship it from the Middle East and remain "tied to unstable parts of the world"?

Moving the sludge TransCanada plans to pump requires cutting it with lighter crude, which will be (wait for it) from "unstable part of the world."

Vicious Babushka Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:52:28pm

re: #40 chunkymonkey

So instead we're going to ship it from the Middle East and remain "tied to unstable parts of the world"?

You do realize that Canadian bitumen is basically unusable until it has been "sweetened" with lighter oil from the ME.

Lidane Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:52:30pm

re: #40 chunkymonkey

So instead we're going to ship it from the Middle East and remain "tied to unstable parts of the world"?

Maybe if we seriously started investing in alternative energy instead of letting Saudi Arabia hold us by the short hairs, we wouldn't have this problem.

Oh, wait. I forgot. Green energy is a bad thing.

chunkymonkey Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:52:46pm

re: #38 Alouette

And then to China!

BTW how many US refineries are owned by the Koch brothers?

Bwah hah hah hah? I don't know. How many are owned by anyone? What's the point of your question? Oh right, Koch brother, booga booga! Heh!

Vicious Babushka Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:54:52pm

re: #45 chunkymonkey

Bwah hah hah hah? I don't know. How many are owned by anyone? What's the point of your question? Oh right, Koch brother, booga booga! Heh!

Koch Industries declared "substantial interest" in Keystone pipeline.

Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:55:37pm

Gingrich is already accusing Obama of voter fraud, in JANUARY. Twitter / @samyoungman: Newt says POTUS team in tr ...

Newt says POTUS team in tradition of Chicago "gonna go all out to rig the election"

SteelGHAZI Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:56:02pm

re: #45 chunkymonkey

There are so many explicitives I could throw at you for this idiotic statement.

But for the sake of my account, I'll hold back.

Lidane Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:56:30pm

re: #47 Charles

Gingrich is already accusing Obama of voter fraud, in JANUARY. Twitter / @samyoungman: Newt says POTUS team in tr ...

And the Freepers and wingnuts now have their talking points for Newt's failure to unseat Obama.

Ben G. Hazi Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:57:53pm

re: #21 chunkymonkey

Right, which is why we killed the pipeline from Canada, heaven forbid we get our energy from a place as unstable as that, eh?

re: #25 Lidane

You mean the export pipeline from Canada that would have sent all that oil to China?

re: #26 C1nnabar

The pipeline would have carried oil to US ports, to be shipped to China. We do get a lot of our oil from Canada, by the way.

Chunky, your talking points are about a week or so out of date; Keystone XL will probably be constructed eventually, just hopefully not anywhere near the Ogallala aquifer . Also, never mind the fact Nebraska's Republican governor and both of its senators (one D, one R) have voiced serious displeasure and disapproval with the disputed routes.

The Questionable Timing of a Flea Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:58:02pm

re: #28 chunkymonkey

Was there something wrong with the Canadian oil then? Or was it pure politics. Of course you are going to say that it's politics and blame the republicans. The Democrats NEVER play politics, right?

The presentations on the pipeline vastly inflated the job count, conflated temporary versus permanent employment in their pitch, and downplayed the significance of safety and environmental issues. It didn't stand up to scrutiny from independent reviewers. In terms of circulation of assets, all of the money pools around the refineries and the strip miners: the people along the pipeline get only a tiny stream that diminishes to a trickle after the building completes.

Had that presentation been made to me as an investor, I would have laughed them out of the room.

To say nothing of the distribution of risks: anyone dependent on the Ogallala aquifer takes it in the teeth if the XL pipe has an issue.

For people that talk about running government like a business, the GOP reps currently in office seem to be utterly negligent in actually researching feasibility, cost/benefit, and long term profit of works projects.

chunkymonkey Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:58:08pm

re: #41 Alexzander

Keystone XL will not lessen U.S. dependence on foreign oil, but transport Canadian oil to American refineries for export to overseas markets.

On its face, this doesn't make any sense. Let's see... if I were to produce a gallon of glue and then sell it overseas when I need the gallon of glue here, why would I sell? Are prices higher in China? I doubt it. Are they higher in Europe? Maybe, but if there really is a world market, then seems it'd be cheaper to sell it locally if the demand is there, rather than transport it across the world. Shipping isn't free.

Unless...

Keystone XL is an export pipeline. According to presentations to investors, Gulf Coast refiners plan to refine the cheap Canadian crude supplied by the pipeline into diesel and other products for export to Europe and Latin America. Proceeds from these exports are earned tax-free.

Aha! The sticky hands of government influencing decisions.

Much of the fuel refined from the pipeline’s heavy crude oil will never reach U.S. drivers’ tanks.

Much? How much?

chunkymonkey Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:58:47pm

re: #47 Charles

Gingrich is already accusing Obama of voter fraud, in JANUARY. Twitter / @samyoungman: Newt says POTUS team in tr ...

Gingrich is the second biggest asswipe who ever lived. If Gingrich wins the GOP nomination, count on my vote for Obama.

goddamnedfrank Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:59:08pm

Recovering tar sands oil is an incredibly inefficient and energy intensive process, requiring a very high price to make profitable:

Because it is so viscous (thick), it also requires dilution with lighter hydrocarbons to make it transportable by pipelines.

...

About two tons of tar sands are required to produce one barrel of oil. Roughly 75% of the bitumen can be recovered from sand. After oil extraction, the spent sand and other materials are then returned to the mine, which is eventually reclaimed.

In-situ production methods are used on bitumen deposits buried too deep for mining to be economically recovered. These techniques include steam injection, solvent injection, and firefloods, in which oxygen is injected and part of the resource burned to provide heat. So far steam injection has been the favoured method. Some of these extraction methods require large amounts of both water and energy (for heating and pumping).

If only 75% of the bitumen is recoverable, this implies that much of the waste sand and water remains contaminated. Also, all the energy represented by mining, heating, extracting, transporting with lighter already refined fractions and refining of the tar sands bitumen, comes with its own cost in greenhouse gas emissions.

Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:59:12pm

Newt Gingrich has been absolutely rabid today in Florida. He's not using dog whistles any more - it's a high decibel air horn. Check Sam Youngman's Twitter timeline: [Link: twitter.com...]

Lidane Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:59:48pm

re: #52 chunkymonkey

Wow. You're really bad at presenting any sort of argument.

Maybe that's why you like parroting talking points so much. That doesn't take any thought.

Kragar Tue, Jan 24, 2012 3:59:56pm

re: #53 chunkymonkey

Gingrich is the second biggest asswipe who ever lived. If Gingrich wins the GOP nomination, count on my vote for Obama.

Who was the first?

Varek Raith Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:00:01pm

re: #52 chunkymonkey

On its face, this doesn't make any sense. Let's see... if I were to produce a gallon of glue and then sell it overseas when I need the gallon of glue here, why would I sell? Are prices higher in China? I doubt it. Are they higher in Europe? Maybe, but if there really is a world market, then seems it'd be cheaper to sell it locally if the demand is there, rather than transport it across the world. Shipping isn't free.

Unless...

Aha! The sticky hands of government influencing decisions.

Much? How much?

Because the US government doesn't control the oil.
Also, oil is fungible.

;)

Targetpractice Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:00:36pm

re: #52 chunkymonkey

On its face, this doesn't make any sense. Let's see... if I were to produce a gallon of glue and then sell it overseas when I need the gallon of glue here, why would I sell? Are prices higher in China? I doubt it. Are they higher in Europe? Maybe, but if there really is a world market, then seems it'd be cheaper to sell it locally if the demand is there, rather than transport it across the world. Shipping isn't free.

Unless...

Aha! The sticky hands of government influencing decisions.

Much? How much?

Are the only refineries in the US capable of handling this noxious crud located in Texas?

ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:02:43pm

Meanwhile, in Libya, Bani Walid has revolted. Apparently, they aren't happy with the way they have been treated since the end of the war.

Considering that it sounds like the attackers are former Qaddafi fighters, these fuckers need to wiped out.

Varek Raith Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:04:49pm

Which Of These Is A Real RNC Ad -- And Which Is Just Fox News?
Lol.

Archangelus Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:05:25pm

re: #45 chunkymonkey

Bwah hah hah hah? I don't know. How many are owned by anyone? What's the point of your question? Oh right, Koch brother, booga booga! Heh!

I someone's working hard for their negative karma rating...

William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:05:29pm

re: #1 aagcobb

If there were still any sane Republicans, they could give that speech.

More proof that his, as I've always said, a radical centrist.

Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:06:21pm

On Fox News, raving wingnut Andrea Tantaros says Obama's speech will be "very evil."

William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:08:21pm

re: #21 chunkymonkey

Right, which is why we killed the pipeline from Canada, heaven forbid we get our energy from a place as unstable as that, eh?

All that oil was going to go straight to China. Just like all the jobs will be in Canada. All the US would get is the mess from the spills and the mess from AGW.

Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:10:44pm

Unbelievable first quarter results from Apple: $13 BILLION in earnings.

jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:10:59pm

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

I hope he ends tonight's speech with "It's on like Donkey Kong, bitches!"

Better yet...

Image: my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-a-suggestion-for-the-state-of-the-union-address.jpg

Cause if you're gonna go meme, go big or go home.

HAL2010 Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:11:40pm

re: #55 Charles

Newt Gingrich has been absolutely rabid today in Florida. He's not using dog whistles any more - it's a high decibel air horn. Check Sam Youngman's Twitter timeline: [Link: twitter.com...]

Quote:

"Had there been a Saul Alinsky drinking game today, all of Florida would be drunk(er)"

Heh.

On a serious note, this kind of rhetoric spewing from the Republican candidates, though not new, is dangerous. Surely, they must know this. They MUST know that.
Also, who the hell is Alinsky?
I know I'm only 26, but come on. Wasn't he some crackpot lefty in the 60's?
Newt the prick, clearly wants a culture war most sane Americans got over a long time ago.

Archangelus Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:12:04pm

re: #66 Charles

Unbelievable first quarter results from Apple: $13 BILLION in earnings.

Excuse me for one moment...
* heads out, screams, beats self repeatedly for not investing in Apple stock years ago when the opportunity presented itself *

The Questionable Timing of a Flea Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:12:42pm

re: #64 Charles

On Fox News, raving wingnut Andrea Tantaros says Obama's speech will be "very evil."

You can tell she's full of shit because she can't specify whether it's Lawful Evil, Neutral Evil, or Chaotic Evil.

Velvet Elvis Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:12:45pm

re: #66 Charles

Unbelievable first quarter results from Apple: $13 BILLION in earnings.

One billion per suicide at Foxcon.

Big Joe Ghazi Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:13:05pm

re: #66 Charles

Unbelievable first quarter results from Apple: $13 BILLION in earnings.

Sounds like they need government subsidies.

Archangelus Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:13:53pm

re: #70 The Ghost of a Flea

You can tell she's full of shit because she can't specify whether it's Lawful Evil, Neutral Evil, or Chaotic Evil.

Its Fox News, you really think they'd consider anything Obama does as anything other than all three combined? :)

Velvet Elvis Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:15:14pm

re: #68 HAL2010

I know I'm only 26, but come on. Wasn't he some crackpot lefty in the 60's?
Newt the prick, clearly wants a culture war most sane Americans got over a long time ago.

It's Florida so there are a lot of retired baby boomers in the crowd.

Four More Tears Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:15:37pm

re: #66 Charles

Unbelievable first quarter results from Apple: $13 BILLION in earnings.

And yet they still feel they have to pull crap like this:

[Link: www.zdnet.com...]

Over the years, I have read hundreds of license agreements, looking for little gotchas and clear descriptions of rights. But I have never, ever seen a legal document like the one Apple has attached to its new iBooks Author program.

HAL2010 Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:18:34pm

re: #74 Conservative Moonbat

Yeah but wouldn't a lot of them have come from the more liberal west coast?
I'm sure they'd know who he is, but would they really be that angry?

SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:20:24pm

Have a liberal friend who thinks positively about Dr. Paul?

I have the antidote.

[Link: www.littleredumbrella.com...]

wrenchwench Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:23:47pm

re: #68 HAL2010

Had there been a Saul Alinsky drinking game today, all of Florida would be drunk(er)

Heh.

On a serious note, this kind of rhetoric spewing from the Republican candidates, though not new, is dangerous. Surely, they must know this. They MUST know that.
Also, who the hell is Alinsky?
I know I'm only 26, but come on. Wasn't he some crackpot lefty in the 60's?
Newt the prick, clearly wants a culture war most sane Americans got over a long time ago.

Alinsky was like the Cesar Chavez of community organizers, although he preceded Chavez. He worked in Chicago, but died long before Obama moved there. Still, he's called one of Obama's main influences, like it was a bad thing.

He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community organizing, and has been compared to Thomas Paine as being "one of the great American leaders of the nonsocialist left."

...

...and conservative author William F. Buckley said he was "very close to being an organizational genius."

Varek Raith Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:24:46pm

re: #77 SpaceJesus

Have a liberal friend who thinks positively about Dr. Paul?

I have the antidote.

[Link: www.littleredumbrella.com...]

Lol, the paulbots have swarmed the comments.

Vicious Babushka Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:25:06pm

re: #75 JasonA

Over the years, I have read hundreds of license agreements, looking for little gotchas and clear descriptions of rights. But I have never, ever seen a legal document like the one Apple has attached to its new iBooks Author program.

By clicking "I Agree" you confirm that you totally agree to have your mouth sewn to another person's anus to form a Human CentiPad.

Youtube Video

Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:25:56pm

re: #71 Conservative Moonbat

Apple is the first technology company to join the Fair Labor Association.

Varek Raith Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:26:00pm

Texas Anti-Science News Director Complains That Climate-Denying Weathermen Are Being Outed

Outed?
Dude, I've seen them use their network and social media to make their anti-AGW thoughts known.
Idiot.

Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:27:08pm

re: #75 JasonA

And yet they still feel they have to pull crap like this:

[Link: www.zdnet.com...]

It's unenforceable, and will almost certainly be revised. This is what lawyers do, they put crazy clauses like this in license agreements. It's not the first time, and it won't be the last.

Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:28:06pm

re: #79 Varek Raith

Lol, the paulbots have swarmed the comments.

They would swarm comments at LGF too if they could. They really hate me.

William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:28:40pm

re: #66 Charles

Unbelievable first quarter results from Apple: $13 BILLION in earnings.

37 Million iPhones. I'm not sure what boggles me more - that number or that they expected to sell 30 million.

Varek Raith Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:29:22pm

re: #84 Charles

They would swarm comments at LGF too if they could. They really hate me.

It's like they have a hive mind or something.

HAL2010 Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:30:44pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

Buckley, the RINO.
How the hell could a community organizer possibly generate so much fear mongering in the GOP?
Bizarroworld.

jaunte Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:31:06pm

@brookejarvis:
Mitch Daniels SOTU response is beyond parody:
"We must always be a nation of haves and soon to haves.”

HAL2010 Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:31:54pm

re: #86 Varek Raith

It's like they have a hive mind or something.

For a supposed "libertarian" movement, whereby you should be free to pursue your own goals and ideas, they sure all do seem to think alike.

Obdicut Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:31:56pm

re: #88 jaunte

@brookejarvis:
Mitch Daniels SOTU response is beyond parody:
"We must always be a nation of haves and soon to haves.”

Deny the existence of the poor. That'll work.

BishopX Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:32:25pm

re: #89 HAL2010

They get that from the anarchists.

Targetpractice Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:32:37pm

re: #88 jaunte

@brookejarvis:
Mitch Daniels SOTU response is beyond parody:
"We must always be a nation of haves and soon to haves.”

Yes, we're all a lotto win away from being part of the 1%!

///

William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:32:44pm

re: #86 Varek Raith

It's like they have a hive mind or something.

There are a couple paulbots who go ape on every story that does (and often ones that don't) mention Laup Nor over at NPR. They have to behave though because NPR knows how to moderate.

zora Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:33:56pm

re: #76 HAL2010

Yeah but wouldn't a lot of them have come from the more liberal west coast?
I'm sure they'd know who he is, but would they really be that angry?

i think the alinsky stuff is for the right wing talk radio crowd. most americans wouldn't know who he is, imo.

HAL2010 Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:34:27pm

re: #91 BishopX

They get that from the anarchists.

Urgh, don't get me started. Few of my friends here in Sweden are members of the former communist party. Talk about hive mind.

wrenchwench Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:35:12pm

re: #87 HAL2010

Buckley, the RINO.
How the hell could a community organizer possibly generate so much fear mongering in the GOP?
Bizarroworld.

Community organizing is the most effective weapon outside of the ballot box that poor people have. That's how. And Obama was one of 'em. That's why they hate him. He's their enemy and he's winning.

HAL2010 Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:36:15pm

re: #94 zora

Ah right. Should be interesting to see how Newt does in Florida after his debate performance. Seems he needs a lively crowd.

The Questionable Timing of a Flea Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:37:25pm

re: #87 HAL2010

Buckley, the RINO.
How the hell could a community organizer possibly generate so much fear mongering in the GOP?
Bizarroworld.

Think Snowball from Animal Farm. What he actually did no longer matters: the name is an invocation, a spectre.

Wreckers, Kulaks, and Running Dogs. Oh my.

HAL2010 Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:38:11pm

re: #96 wrenchwench

Community organizing is the most effective weapon outside of the ballot box that poor people have. That's how. And Obama was one of 'em. That's why they hate him. He's their enemy and he's winning.

I think they hate most democrats, regardless.
But I still don't understand how he could become such a boogeyman. Alinksy that is.

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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:38:22pm

re: #94 zora

i think the alinsky stuff is for the right wing talk radio crowd. most americans wouldn't know who he is, imo.

Isn't Alinsky the Russian comedian/home improvement guy? This Old Dacha?
;)

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SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:40:13pm

re: #79 Varek Raith

I'm battling their A-Team on facebook with this shit right now. It is glorious

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Wozza Matter? Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:40:15pm

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

I hope he ends tonight's speech with "It's on like Donkey Kong, bitches!"

Image: tumblr_li7gnkoC2I1qa7yfto1_500.jpg

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jaunte Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:40:19pm

re: #90 Obdicut

"Haves and soon to haves" is a good short statement of the ploy: vote for policies that help the well-to-do, because any minute you could be there too. No one likes to imagine they might not have what it takes to vastly improve their wealth.

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wrenchwench Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:41:41pm

re: #99 HAL2010

I think they hate mote democrats, regardless.
But I still don't understand how he could become such a boogeyman. Alinksy that is.

He has a couple of books with handy quotations in them that make easy fill for the likes of Limbaugh when he's trying to scare his listeners. It's like invoking Reverend Wright, it's easy, fun, stupid, and sounds like something serious.

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Charleston Chew Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:42:15pm

re: #4 simoom

Fox Nation's spin on the Romney tax return release.

Headline:

From the President's 2010 returns:

[Link: money.cnn.com...]

Also being overlooked by Fox, there was a further 1.4 million dollars given directly to charity in 2010:

[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]

Assuming there's no such thing as cognitive dissonace, Fox's Ayn Rand worshipping Tea Partiers shouldn't care about either man's charitable giving:

My views on charity are very simple. I do not consider it a major virtue and, above all, I do not consider it a moral duty. There is nothing wrong in helping other people, if and when they are worthy of the help and you can afford to help them. I regard charity as a marginal issue. What I am fighting is the idea that charity is a moral duty and a primary virtue.

-Ayn Rand, 1964

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HAL2010 Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:42:37pm

Well, I'm off to bed.

Have a good day/afternoon/evening depending on where you might be,
Good night!

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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:43:13pm

re: #103 jaunte

"Haves and soon to haves" is a good short statement of the ploy: vote for policies that help the well-to-do, because any minute you could be there too. No one likes to imagine they might not have what it takes to vastly improve their wealth.

They all think that they're gonna win the Life Lottery tomorrow, happen upon a rich relative or a big job promotion, and soon be part of the "rich." Think that's part of the modern difference between liberalism and conservatism, the former believing that the system's unbalanced and needs to be fixed, while the latter believes it's perfectly balanced and those who don't succeed at becoming rich just didn't work hard enough.

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Charleston Chew Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:44:13pm

re: #101 SpaceJesus

I'm battling their A-Team on facebook with this shit right now. It is glorious

On facebook somewhere in the Los Angeles underground, I assume.

Youtube Video

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jaunte Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:48:02pm

Some FactCheck reference for Gingrich "not a lobbyist" arguments:

While it’s true that Gingrich has never been a registered lobbyist, a recent, in-depth New York Times analysis presents a murkier picture of Gingrich’s advocacy.

According to the story, although Gingrich routinely wrote into contracts, “does not provide lobbying services of any kind,” the company also boasted of “contacts at the highest levels” of state and federal government. Gingrich, the story states, “has made millions of dollars while helping companies promote their services and gain access to state and federal officials. In a variety of instances, documents and interviews show, Mr. Gingrich arranged meetings between executives and officials, and salted his presentations to lawmakers with pitches for his clients, who pay as much as $200,000 a year to belong to his Center for Health Transformation.”
[Link: factcheck.org...]

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wrenchwench Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:49:25pm

I'm starting to like this more than icanhascheezburger. Must be the season. Can't copy 'em though, can only link them. (If somebody knows how to copy them, please let me know...)

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The Questionable Timing of a Flea Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:50:58pm

re: #99 HAL2010

I think they hate mote democrats, regardless.
But I still don't understand how he could become such a boogeyman. Alinksy that is.

The "Alinsky" meme because of some tenuous connection to Obama by way of Chicago and community organizing. Apparently they were on a charity board together, like once. At least one pundit...I think Beck...has also elevated his book Rules for Radicals to a role as grimoire used by sinister leftist agitators to overthrow 'Murica and the status quo. The book isn't nearly as sinister as portrayed, but it is provocative in the sense the it talks about motivating people to get up and participate, which means fanning their anger and exposing bottled-up resentments. They play this up as sinister and cabal-ish, but what's being described is getting people to air grievances and have them addressed, not run riot. The fearmongers, of course, don't talk about the chapter on ethics and the need to gauge ends versus means.

The even more pathetic part is the right use "Alinsky" tactics routinely even as they demonize them.

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wrenchwench Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:51:26pm

Another one.

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Varek Raith Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:51:30pm

Anonymous asked: I know yelling "geronimo!" or "banzai!" when you're about to do something adrenaline-drenched and stupid is racist as fucking hell, but what's your recommended alternative?

Man, seriously, whatever happened to “AHOY!”

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The Questionable Timing of a Flea Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:54:31pm

From YITR?

Anonymous asked: is it racist to gift your boyfriend collard greens cuz he's black and you know he'll like them?

OH HEY HERE’S YOUR GIFT, ABOUT $.80 WORTH OF RACIALLY CHARGED VEGETABLES I KNOW YOU’LL LOVE THEM

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wrenchwench Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:54:51pm

re: #113 Varek Raith

Anonymous asked: I know yelling "geronimo!" or "banzai!" when you're about to do something adrenaline-drenched and stupid is racist as fucking hell, but what's your recommended alternative?

Man, seriously, whatever happened to “AHOY!”

So, did you retype the question?

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sattv4u2 Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:56:22pm

re: #113 Varek Raith

Anonymous asked: I know yelling "geronimo!" or "banzai!" when you're about to do something adrenaline-drenched and stupid is racist as fucking hell, but what's your recommended alternative?

Man, seriously, whatever happened to “AHOY!”

Somewhere, Popeye is looking at you askance!!
/

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Charleston Chew Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:56:30pm

re: #113 Varek Raith

Anonymous asked: I know yelling "geronimo!" or "banzai!" when you're about to do something adrenaline-drenched and stupid is racist as fucking hell, but what's your recommended alternative?

Man, seriously, whatever happened to “AHOY!”

I vote "Whoo-ah!"

Youtube Video

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darthstar Tue, Jan 24, 2012 4:56:53pm

re: #113 Varek Raith

Man, seriously, whatever happened to “AHOY!”

Dyslexic Georgetown fan?

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BongCrodny Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:00:10pm

re: #101 SpaceJesus

I'm battling their A-Team on facebook with this shit right now. It is glorious

Hey, SJ --

Completely off topic, but I thought you might get a kick out of who's playing at the Port City Music Hall on Friday, February 3rd. :-)

Port City Music Hall

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darthstar Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:02:50pm

re: #117 Charleston Chew

I vote "Whoo-ah!"

[Video]

Cowabunga, dude.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:02:59pm

Just watched an episode of Portlandia on IFC On-demand.

Funny as hell.

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simoom Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:03:02pm

Wow, Erin Burnett is being kind of annoying today. With each guest she's had on, she keeps trying to make some sort of gotcha point about how Mitt Romney is actually for a more progressive tax rate on the middle class because he wants to not collect capital gains on people earning less than $200,000 while President Obama wants to raise the overall rate (I assume from the tax cuts expiring). Over 70% of Americans in that category receive no capital gains income...

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dragonfire1981 Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:03:53pm

re: #113 Varek Raith

Anonymous asked: I know yelling "geronimo!" or "banzai!" when you're about to do something adrenaline-drenched and stupid is racist as fucking hell, but what's your recommended alternative?

Man, seriously, whatever happened to “AHOY!”

If I may suggest an alternative:

Youtube Video

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Bubblehead II Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:05:58pm

re: #21 chunkymonkey

Idiot. He killed it for numerous reasons. Fore most was because the Governor and the People He represents asked to.

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sattv4u2 Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:06:01pm

Oh ,, goody ,,,, was just informed that tomorrow,,, MY DAY OFF,,, I have to be here for a staff meeting at 10 a.m.

UPSIDE ,,,I get to leave one whole hour early tonight!!

Oh ,, joy!!

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The Questionable Timing of a Flea Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:06:11pm

re: #113 Varek Raith

Anonymous asked: I know yelling "geronimo!" or "banzai!" when you're about to do something adrenaline-drenched and stupid is racist as fucking hell, but what's your recommended alternative?

I know it's retro, but what about an old-fashioned barbarous yawp?

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SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:07:00pm

re: #119 BongCrodny

link's not workin for me

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jaunte Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:12:15pm

Colorado Rep. Doug Lamborn to skip State of the Union

"There's no job requirement of any kind that a congressman be there," Lamborn said. "I've been getting more and more of an uneasy feeling as I watched the president revert to campaign mode. He's only out there campaigning. He's not reaching out."

Maybe the president heard McConnell, and figured why bother.

“The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told National Journal‘s Major Garrett in October.

Fox News’ Bret Baier asked McConnell Sunday if that was still his major objective.

“Well, that is true,” McConnell replied. “That’s my single most important political goal, along with every active Republican in the country.”

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Bubblehead II Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:12:56pm

Karma: -1,489

chunkymonkey
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Registered since: Sep 21, 2011 at 10:56 am
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Troll/Sock.

BTW Lizards. Good Evening.

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Charleston Chew Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:16:15pm

re: #128 jaunte

Colorado Rep. Doug Lamborn to skip State of the Union

"There's no job requirement of any kind that a congressman be there," Lamborn said. "I've been getting more and more of an uneasy feeling as I watched the president revert to campaign mode. He's only out there campaigning. He's not reaching out."

"How are we supposed to chop his hand off if he won't reach out?"

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Bubblehead II Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:17:22pm

BTW, Missed the live STU speech. Being lazy, does anyone have a link to it?

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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:17:46pm

re: #128 jaunte

Colorado Rep. Doug Lamborn to skip State of the Union

Maybe the president heard McConnell, and figured why bother.

Let's be honest, if they weren't worried about looking bad with the public, most of the GOP would sit out this SOTU. They fully intend to spend the next 9 or so months obstructing him at every turn, jamming bills full of poison pills, and generally trying to kneecap his reelection chances. I just wish they'd be honest and admit that, rather than trying to maintain this veneer of "bipartisanship."

133

Targetpractice Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:18:35pm

re: #131 Bubblehead II

BTW, Missed the live STU speech. Being lazy, does anyone have a link to it?

Doesn't happen til 9pm EST.

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Wozza Matter? Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:18:36pm

LBJ State of Union War on Poverty
1965

Youtube Video

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:19:35pm

re: #131 Bubblehead II

BTW, Missed the live STU speech. Being lazy, does anyone have a link to it?

That's an early transcript. You have time. Doesn't come on until 9.

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jaunte Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:21:07pm

re: #132 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It looks like Lamborn is already working on his next job after office:

Lamborn told us he respects the president, and the office of the president, and is making no attempt to persuade other Republicans to stay away. Nor is he trying to shut out the president; in fact, he plans to provide live online commentary on the speech for The Heritage Foundation.

[Link: www.denverpost.com...]

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:21:09pm

re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's an early transcript. You have time. Doesn't come on until 9.

I do not like the fairly new tradition of releasing it early.

When the President says new, unveiling things... I should be hearing it for the first time.

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Charleston Chew Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:21:13pm

re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's an early transcript. You have time. Doesn't come on until 9.

It's understandably confusing to read a (cue theremin music) transcript from the future!

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sagehen Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:21:19pm

re: #19 iceweasel

Deep thought: life isn't always like the Transformers movies.
---Jimmah, five minutes ago.

so... does that mean sometimes it is?

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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:22:29pm

re: #138 Charleston Chew

It's understandably confusing to read a (cue theremin music) transcript from the future!

Personally, I find it frustrating. Of all the things we can get from the future, all we get is transcripts. Why can't we get the winning lottery numbers?!

141

jaunte Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:23:45pm

re: #139 sagehen

I think any of us would get tired of Shia LaBeouf constantly running through the room.

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Bubblehead II Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:24:02pm

re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #133 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Thanks. Busy day. Almost getting killed hasn't helped.

143

Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:25:07pm

re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just watched an episode of Portlandia on IFC On-demand.

Funny as hell.

Might be hard to fully appreciate this if you didn't watch Battlestar Galactica. I had almost this same experience, except with Netflix and not DVDs.

Youtube Video

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dragonfire1981 Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:25:08pm

I hope Obama goes out of his way in the speech to mention the Republicans who didn't show up. These people deserve to be called out.

No class. Zero none.

I don't care if you don't like the guy. It's the PROPER thing to do.

145

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:25:16pm

re: #138 Charleston Chew

Nah. I'm not stupid, but why listen to a guy make a speech that I can read on-line before he makes it?

Just don't have that much of a man-crush.

146

BongCrodny Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:25:26pm

re: #127 SpaceJesus

link's not workin for me

Damn. Wish I had a photo.

Swear to whoever it is agnostics swear to, but the name of the band is "Space Jesus."

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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:25:52pm

re: #128 jaunte

re: #130 Charleston Chew

re: #132 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm sorry for my dumb fuck of a representative.

I also vote for the other guy, but there are too many Evangelibans.

148

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:26:33pm

re: #143 negativ

That was the episode I watched! (Also, Eddie Vedder).

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jaunte Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:27:18pm

re: #147 ProLifeLiberal

I saw he was getting a primary challenger, and I guess he's cementing his reputation as someone who is as far away from Obama as he can be.

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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:28:24pm

re: #149 jaunte

Lamborn is as far-right as they get. I can't imagine a challenger winning in Colorado Springs.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:29:04pm

re: #142 Bubblehead II

re: #133 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Thanks. Busy day. Almost getting killed hasn't helped.

Almost? Almost?!?!

Don't give excuses. Why in the hell are you still alive?
/

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Charleston Chew Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:30:30pm

re: #147 ProLifeLiberal

re: #130 Charleston Chew

re: #132 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm sorry for my dumb fuck of a representative.

I also vote for the other guy, but there are too many Evangelibans.

No need to apologize for democracy. Since I moved from Ohio to Massachusetts, I nostalgically envy people in states where tussling with Republicans is a reason to get up in the morning.

153

jaunte Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:31:36pm

re: #150 ProLifeLiberal

Ah, here he is... Businessman Robert Blaha:

"Robert believes it's time to bring business experience to Congress. It's time to breakthrough the federal red tape, complacency and stagnant stalemates - and have our voices heard in Washington, D.C.

Founder of Human Capital Associates based in Colorado Springs, Robert has achieved success by listening, responding, studying and creating coalitions to benefit small businesses and large corporations and nonprofits.

Robert is a nationally recognized expert in analyzing leadership and business processes to streamline organizations, cut costs and increase efficiency, productivity and profit."
[Link: www.coloradopols.com...]

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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:33:08pm

re: #147 ProLifeLiberal

re: #130 Charleston Chew

re: #132 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm sorry for my dumb fuck of a representative.

I also vote for the other guy, but there are too many Evangelibans.

No worries, my state counts Eric Cantor amongst its representatives.

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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:34:46pm

re: #153 jaunte

I haven't heard of him. I'll ask my parents about him (I'm at OU 8 months of the year, so I miss the primaries).

156

jaunte Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:35:06pm

re: #147 ProLifeLiberal

No need to apologize. My state gave us Rick Perry, and Ron Paul, and... there was a third thing.... no... can't do it. Oops.

157

jaunte Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:39:21pm

@BorowitzReport
#SOTU Trivia: In the hour it takes the President to give his speech, Gingrich could earn $30,000 for being a historian.

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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:40:14pm

re: #155 ProLifeLiberal

They haven't heard of this Blaha fellow.

And the Primary is in 2-3 weeks.

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Bubblehead II Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:43:00pm

re: #151 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Almost? Almost?!?!

Don't give excuses. Why in the hell are you still alive?
/

Fast reflexes. Felt the ladder slipping. Grabbed onto the closest solid object and hung on.

160

Wozza Matter? Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:44:09pm

from @HermanCainsHat....

Last minute #SOTU: Remind GOP it's not called the State of the Uterus.

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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:44:41pm

re: #159 Bubblehead II

Fast reflexes. Felt the ladder slipping. Grabbed onto the closest solid object and hung on.

Damn, man. Happy to hear you're still with us!

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:47:21pm

re: #62 Archangelus

I someone's working hard for their negative karma rating...

It's SOTU night. Everyone's feeling their oats a bit.

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Achilles Tang Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:47:27pm

re: #21 chunkymonkey

Right, which is why we killed the pipeline from Canada, heaven forbid we get our energy from a place as unstable as that, eh?

It hasn't been killed. The GOP put a political poison pill on it to prevent the route from being evaluated properly; forcing a step back to the beginning of the evaluation.

Have you been listening to FOX again?

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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:48:27pm

Is the audience supposed to remain quiet for this event?

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Wozza Matter? Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:52:50pm

re: #162 SanFranciscoZionist

It's SOTU night. Everyone's feeling their oats a bit.

Newts sewing his wild oats. Again. Probably. Allegedly.

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sagehen Tue, Jan 24, 2012 5:58:20pm

re: #164 JasonA

Is the audience supposed to remain quiet for this event?

They're allowed (encouraged) to clap when they hear something they like; they're not supposed to vocalize.

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Bubblehead II Tue, Jan 24, 2012 6:00:08pm

re: #161 JasonA

Damn, man. Happy to hear you're still with us!

Thanks, The Wife feels the same way. People think that a lot of mundane jobs are with out risks. You can get killed, just as fast working on plumbing as electricity.

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CarleeCork Tue, Jan 24, 2012 8:21:29pm

re: #21 chunkymonkey

Right, which is why we killed the pipeline from Canada, heaven forbid we get our energy from a place as unstable as that, eh?

We get the largest percentage of our energy from Canada.

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