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Sarah Palin’s Word Salad of the Day

“They maybe subscribe such characterization of Newt via words like that”
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Sarah Palin served up one of her delicious word salads yesterday on Fox Business, accusing “the establishment” of trying to “crucify” Newt Gingrich by “subscribing” incorrect characterizations of him. Via words.

“They maybe subscribe such characterization of Newt via words like that, but they don’t subscribe those to say Mitt Romney when he or his surrogates do the same thing,” she said. “That’s that typical hypocrisy stuff in the media that I’ve lived with over a couple of decades in the political arena. So I’m used to it. But in order to help educate the rest of the American public, I’ll articulate that it is hypocritical of the media to subscribe to one candidate and not another, that kind of ‘angry attack muffin’ verbiage to one and not the other.”

(The context: Palin is blathering about a Peggy Noonan column labeling Gingrich an “angry little attack muffin.”)

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192 comments

1 jamesfirecat  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:22:08pm

"‘angry attack muffin’" ???

I can't think of a proper way to respond to this without insulting people.

2 Bulworth  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:23:40pm

That's just painful.

3 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:23:53pm

She is saying that the media should treat them all with equally, subscribed, contempt; is she not?

4 Lidane  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:25:05pm
"But in order to help educate the rest of the American public, I’ll articulate..."

No you won't, because you can't.

5 Randall Gross  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:25:22pm

Remember the pre Sarah days when Peggy Noonan wasn't part of the "liberal attack media" and wrote speeches for President Reagan? Palin and the entire right are fruit loops crazy. Wait a minute, I retract that... it's too much of an insult to cartoon Toucans.

6 aagcobb  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:25:25pm

Boy, I hope Palin gets a prime-time slot to speak at the GOP Convention.

7 Randall Gross  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:25:40pm
8 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:25:58pm

I love how she throws in the word "articulate" to try to seem smart, while misusing "subscribe" three times!

9 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:27:06pm

Is she one of those "make English the official language" people? Because she does not qualify.

10 mikec6666  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:31:08pm

ascribe is the word I believe she meant to use

11 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:32:25pm

The word she failed to articulate was 'ascribe'. I wonder who'll be the first idiot to step forward and claim she was being 'creative with language' again?

12 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:33:49pm

re: #11 Jimmah

The word she failed to articulate was 'ascribe'. I wonder who'll be the first idiot to step forward and claim she was being 'creative with language' again?

Prefixes are a liberal conspiracy to make conservatives look bad.

13 Lidane  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:35:28pm

re: #6 aagcobb

Boy, I hope Palin gets a prime-time slot to speak at the GOP Convention.

Sarah Palin for keynote speaker! Eleventy!

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14 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:35:40pm

re: #12 Obdicut

Prefixes are a liberal conspiracy to make conservatives look bad.

Etymological elitists!

15 Randall Gross  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:35:42pm

re: #12 Obdicut

Prefixes are a liberal conspiracy to make conservatives look bad.

Well carrying on with the fun with prefixes .... what if we did the same thing with CONservative? That would change it to SUBservative! That could be the next word Sarah coins...

16 Gus  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:36:45pm

It's the attack of the martian attack muffin! Run for your lives people! Run for your lives!

17 JeffM70  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:36:50pm

I think the word she wanted was ascribe. But my God the crimes she commits against the English language.

18 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:37:22pm

re: #6 aagcobb

Careful there. Palin is fully capable of a stemwinder. Yes, she's stupid. You know this, she may not and her people don't care. She's a modern Aimee Semple McPherson.

I doubt she'd get a slot if Romney gets the nomination. If Newt does, she will. But it will be a fully vetted speech and she'll be rehearsed under gunpoint. Or maybe not. If Newt gets it, the TP won the day and the stupids are on parade.

19 Gus  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:37:34pm

So I guess this means that Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck are now a part of the "liberal media establishment."

20 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:37:44pm

Seeing the things this woman says and knowing that my mother idolizes her makes me want to weep.

21 Gus  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:38:10pm

Bob Dole just today. Yep, liberal media! Attack muffins!

22 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:38:15pm

re: #19 Gus 802

So I guess this means that Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck are now a part of the "liberal media establishment."

Yep. They're all ours.

23 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:38:15pm

*blinking* I'm still trying to edit the first sentence in my head and make it work. Even if you change "subscribe" to "ascribe", you don't ascribe a characterization to someone—you either ascribe a characteristic to them, or you characterize them as...*giggle*...an angry little attack muffin.

24 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:38:32pm

re: #19 Gus 802

we don't want them
- The liberal media establishment.

25 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:39:22pm

"Angry little attack muffin" is one for the ages.

26 simoom  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:39:25pm

So the 26th was the Birthers' big court day in Georgia, where they had subpoenaed the President to attend a hearing on whether or not he was eligible to appear on the Georgia ballot. The President's side boycotted the proceedings: “… the attempt to hold hearings on qualifications which you may not enforce is ultra vires.”

[Link: blogs.ajc.com...]

Democrats, including the attorney representing President Barack Obama, have made a last-minute decision to boycott the Thursday hearing to consider a “birther” effort to remove Obama from the March 6 presidential primary ballot.

“They can tilt at windmills on their own,” said state Democratic spokesman Eric Gray on Wednesday night.

[Link: www.ajc.com...]

On Thursday, lawyers raised two arguments for why Obama should not be on the ballot. One contended an 1875 Supreme Court opinion says only a “natural born citizen” -- someone born in the U.S. and whose parents were U.S. citizens -- can be president. (Obama’s father, who was from Kenya, was not a U.S. citizen.) The other alleged Obama’s birth, social security and passport records are forgeries.

California lawyer Orly Taitz, a leading proponent of challenges to Obama’s candidacy, made the latter argument. She turned and faced the gallery -- and the TV cameras -- during her opening statement, prompting Malihi to tell her: “Counsel, please address the court.”

During closing arguments, as Taitz began referring to documents that were not in evidence, Malihi pointedly asked, “Counsel, are you testifying?”

Taitz abruptly halted her arguments, took the witness stand and began testifying. Malihi soon cut her off.

The claims raised Thursday have been brought in courts across the country in dozens of cases, all of them dismissed. Obama released his long-form Hawaii birth certificate last year, quieting but not extinguishing the challenges. Malihi’s ruling earlier this month that Obama should appear gave renewed hope to undeterred “birthers” and made Georgia the latest battleground.

[Link: blogs.ajc.com...]

Ms. Taitz is now going through her witness list. She has alleged so far that Obama’s name is not Obama but Soetero, and thus cannot be listed as Obama on the ballot. Her evidence is a school log from Indonesia listing a Barack Soetero.

She further alleges that his SSI number is fraudulent, stolen from somebody in Connecticut.

Frankly, she’s easily the worst lawyer I have ever seen in a courtroom. The judge has had to repeatedly admonish her for failing the most basic of courtroom procedures. Early in her presentation, she turned her back on the judge to address the audience instead. The judge told her to speak to the bench, not her crowd of admirers.

We are now being treated to “expert” testimony and “evidence” that the Hawaii birth certificate is a fraud.

Surreal.

This is what it looks like when Lucy yanks the Birfer football away:
Image: 012712birther_ba02_1269318c.jpg

27 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:39:30pm

re: #23 CuriousLurker

*blinking* I'm still trying to edit the first sentence in my head and make it work. Even if you change "subscribe" to "ascribe", you don't ascribe a characterization to someone—you either ascribe a characteristic to them, or you characterize them as...*giggle*...an angry little attack muffin.

WHAT KIND OF SORCERY IS THAT?!?!!?1

28 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:40:47pm

re: #25 SanFranciscoZionist

"Angry little attack muffin" is one for the ages.

It sure is. I don't much care for Peggy Noonan, but that was perfect.

29 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:42:23pm

Hey, here's some news, folks - I'm going to interview the National Center for Science Education's Genie Scott via email sometime soon (date not set yet).

If there's anything you'd like to ask her, go ahead and post it as a comment here and I'll include the best ones in my interview.

30 Gus  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:42:31pm

I think they should have a giant Angry Attack Muffin Man character based on the giant Kool-Aid Man.

31 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:42:56pm

re: #29 Charles

Wow! And yay!

32 theheat  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:43:36pm

re: #23 CuriousLurker

Someday I'll make my fundie translator an app. For now, it's only a skill I can bill by the hour.

33 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:44:37pm
34 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:45:18pm
35 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:45:41pm

re: #29 Charles

Question to Dr. Scott: are there any studies analyzing the intersection of AGW denial and evolution denial? And what can you say about this from your own experience?

36 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:47:08pm

re: #29 Charles

I'd ask:

What are the keys to getting more American students graduating with degrees in science and education?

37 aagcobb  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:47:58pm

re: #29 Charles

Hey, here's some news, folks - I'm going to interview the National Center for Science Education's Genie Scott via email sometime soon (date not set yet).

If there's anything you'd like to ask her, go ahead and post it as a comment here and I'll include the best ones in my interview,

I would be curious as to the actual state of education on evolutionary theory in primary schools. NCSE has done a good job of fighting off efforts to inject creationism into the classroom, but I wouldn't be surprised if most schools provide a cursory mention of evolutionary theory, if any at all.

38 Flashmash  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:49:16pm

I would ask Dr. Scott to what does she "subscribe" the refusal to accept scientific theory to the deniers.

39 Interesting Times  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:49:24pm

re: #28 CuriousLurker

It sure is. I don't much care for Peggy Noonan, but that was perfect.

Image: angry-muffin.jpg

Image: newt-frown.jpg

40 iossarian  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:51:39pm

re: #29 Charles

Hey, here's some news, folks - I'm going to interview the National Center for Science Education's Genie Scott via email sometime soon (date not set yet).

If there's anything you'd like to ask her, go ahead and post it as a comment here and I'll include the best ones in my interview.

I would ask:

"Given that, inevitably, some people will always have more scientific knowledge than others, how do we avoid resentment building up between a scientific elite and the general population?"

41 Petero1818  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:52:27pm

I take issue with (among other things) her claiming to have "over a couple of decades" in the political arena. I do not view years on town council in Wasila as the "political arena". Small town politics is essentially more like running or working in a diner and gossiping. I know, I have participated in it.

42 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:52:30pm

My head hurts from Sarah Palin's abuse of the English language in that comment. Ascribe, not subscribe, and she adds all kinds of excess verbiage to sound more authoritative.

But we've been down this road with her before. Her base will lap this stuff up and ignore the verbal gaffes. And they'll ignore that the people who are attacking Newt are establishment GOP, not RINOs. But that's all part of the TP thing. They detest the establishment, except they want to be a part of it (and supplant it) all the same.

43 simoom  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:52:35pm

re: #26 simoom

I just followed a little further along in the Atlanta Journal Constitution's live blogging of the 26th Birther hearing:

[Link: blogs.ajc.com...]

Her current witness is laying out the grounds upon which Barack Obama could be arrested and deported for falsely claiming US citizenship.

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Excellent. The judge asked Taitz to give her closing argument. In the middle of doing so, she decided to turn into her own witness and sat in the witness chair to give testimony

The judge finally stopped her.

44 Lidane  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:53:03pm

re: #19 Gus 802

So I guess this means that Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck are now a part of the "liberal media establishment."

Read through the Freeper site sometime. They're convinced that Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter are just filthy RINOs that have been exposed by their criticism of Newt. It's hilarious.

45 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:53:59pm

re: #43 simoom

The judge should have slapped her with a contempt of court charge and forced her either to stop or be thrown in jail. Clearly, she has no idea what to do in a courtroom besides grandstand.

46 erik_t  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:54:11pm

re: #43 simoom

I just followed along a little further along in the Atlanta Journal Constitution's live blogging of the 26th Birther hearing:

[Link: blogs.ajc.com...]

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What a goddamned nut.

47 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:55:04pm

re: #44 Lidane

Read through the Freeper site sometime. They're convinced that Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter are just filthy RINOs that have been exposed by their criticism of Newt. It's hilarious.

Interesting, since to some extent that mimics the anger turned on conservative writers in the last election when they began to get critical of Palin. Kathleen Parker really got slammed.

48 theheat  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:55:20pm

re: #45 lawhawk

Why isn't she sanctioned into oblivion?

49 Lidane  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:55:49pm

re: #45 lawhawk

The judge should have slapped her with a contempt of court charge and forced her either to stop or be thrown in jail. Clearly, she has no idea what to do in a courtroom besides grandstand.

But she's a lawyer! And a realtor! And a dentist! She's an expert at these things and she's trying to save America from the Seekrit Moozlim that has usurped the Presidency.

Why do you hate America?

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50 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:56:11pm

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

Interesting, since to some extent that mimics the anger turned on conservative writers in the last election when they began to get critical of Palin. Kathleen Parker really got slammed.

I read a lot of Parker then, and I thought she was really moderate at that moment in time. A RINO, if you will.

51 Lidane  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:58:54pm

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

Interesting, since to some extent that mimics the anger turned on conservative writers in the last election when they began to get critical of Palin. Kathleen Parker really got slammed.

Oh, Parker gets off easy these days. She's just an obvious RINO in Freeper land. Beck and Coulter, Faux News, Karl Rove, Drudge, NRO, etc.? All filthy turncoat RINOs and liberals for bagging on Newt:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

52 zora  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 12:59:37pm

re: #19 Gus 802

So I guess this means that Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck are now a part of the "liberal media establishment."

and drudge, too.

53 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:00:59pm

re: #42 lawhawk

My head hurts from Sarah Palin's abuse of the English language in that comment. Ascribe, not subscribe, and she adds all kinds of excess verbiage to sound more authoritative.

. . .

"But in order to help educate the rest of the American public, I’ll articulate that it is hypocritical of the media to subscribe to one candidate and not another, that kind of ‘angry attack muffin’ verbiage to one and not the other.”

Sarah, Sarah, Sarah. No need to tell people that you're going to "articulate" something. Here, try this on for size:

"It's hypocritical of the media to accuse only one candidate of making angry attacks, when both do it".

54 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:01:22pm

re: #51 Lidane

what makes that amusing is that the echo chamber is now getting smaller. If they are going to write off Beck, Coulter and basicaly all those others then they'll eventually have no one else to turn to.

55 aagcobb  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:02:27pm

re: #45 lawhawk

The judge should have slapped her with a contempt of court charge and forced her either to stop or be thrown in jail. Clearly, she has no idea what to do in a courtroom besides grandstand.

It was an administrative hearing. We hearing officers don't get to throw people in jail.

56 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:02:58pm

re: #55 aagcobb

It was an administrative hearing. We hearing officers don't get to throw people in jail.

What about if you really want to, and it's obviously the right thing to do?

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57 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:03:53pm

re: #54 Dreggas

what makes that amusing is that the echo chamber is now getting smaller. If they are going to write off Beck, Coulter and basicaly all those others then they'll eventually have no one else to turn to.

Miniturization as the echo chamber technology improves. Soon there will be tech to allow everyone to be their own echo chamber.
/

58 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:05:23pm

re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist

What about if you really want to, and it's obviously the right thing to do?

//

Slippery slope leading to them wearing wigs and putting the little black cloth on top of their heads as they pronounce death sentences for jay-walking, spitting on sidewalks, and voting Democratic.
//

59 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:05:36pm

re: #57 oaktree

meh. It'll be like in Fallout 3 where the "president" was just a sentient computer.

60 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:06:26pm

re: #59 Dreggas

meh. It'll be like in Fallout 3 where the "president" was just a sentient computer.

But The Computer is your friend. Are you some kind of traitorous mutant?

61 aagcobb  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:06:39pm

re: #58 oaktree

Slippery slope leading to them wearing wigs and putting the little black cloth on top of their heads as they pronounce death sentences for jay-walking, spitting on sidewalks, and voting Democratic.
//

OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!

62 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:08:31pm

re: #53 reine.de.tout

I was going to start redlining her comments, but to what end? It's not like she's going to change her speech patterns, and her followers will still follow her blindly regardless of what she's saying and how she says it (even if she completely mangles the language).

63 BishopX  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:08:35pm

re: #60 oaktree

What is your Classification level Citizen?

64 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:10:07pm

Off-topic food question (but it's a word salad thread).

Was walking about for lunch today and saw a newish burger place advertising itself in large letters as "Kosher Glatt". Figured someone could clue me in on whether this should be anything special.

I passed it up to try out a falafel sandwich at another newish place. (This section of Philly has 2-3 places with good falafel.) I got a good sandwich and the spicy peanut sauce on it was really good. Place called "Crisp" that appears to be an expansion from a chain in NYC.

65 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:11:08pm

re: #63 BishopX

What is your Classification level Citizen?

LIZ-G-RN2

66 engineer cat  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:11:41pm

Yo, Is This Shit Wack?

Yo, last week Romney was still ahead in the national matchups against Newt but Newt was polling ahead in Florida; this week Mitt is behind Newt in the national polls and sinking like a stone, but back on top in Florida

Is this shit Wack or what?

67 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:13:01pm

re: #64 oaktree

Off-topic food question (but it's a word salad thread).

Was walking about for lunch today and saw a newish burger place advertising itself in large letters as "Kosher Glatt". Figured someone could clue me in on whether this should be anything special.

I passed it up to try out a falafel sandwich at another newish place. (This section of Philly has 2-3 places with good falafel.) I got a good sandwich and the spicy peanut sauce on it was really good. Place called "Crisp" that appears to be an expansion from a chain in NYC.

"Glatt" is just a classification of kashrut in which some additional measures are taken. It's a kosher burger joint at which, if their supervision matches their advertising, even the most stringent should be able to eat a burger.

Where are you?

EDIT: Oh, Philly.

68 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:13:13pm

I loathe Peggy Noonan. There are plenty of rightwing pundits (she's definitely one) that I don't like, but this woman is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. She appears on Meet the Press on occasion and each time, her voice, her body language, she thinks she's Meryl Streep going for the Oscar.

I have the same visceral reaction when I see Katrina vanden Heuvel (to give both sides their due).

69 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:13:40pm

re: #66 engineer dog

Yo, Is This Shit Wack?

Yo, last week Romney was still ahead in the national matchups against Newt but Newt was polling ahead in Florida; this week Mitt is behind Newt in the national polls and sinking like a stone, but back on top in Florida

Is this shit Wack or what?

Kabuki for the masses while awaiting St Sarah of Wassila to come and break the siege of DC and save America.
//

70 aagcobb  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:15:35pm

re: #66 engineer dog

Yo, Is This Shit Wack?

Yo, last week Romney was still ahead in the national matchups against Newt but Newt was polling ahead in Florida; this week Mitt is behind Newt in the national polls and sinking like a stone, but back on top in Florida

Is this shit Wack or what?

That is because Romney & friends have unleashed a torrent of attack ads on Newt in Florida, outspending him 14:1. But I read Newt & friends are about to unleash a $6 million dollar campaign themselves in Florida.

71 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:15:44pm

re: #29 Charles

Q: Can arrangements be made to get funding (or request donations of time/services) for a PSA type campaign to raise awareness about climate change and other environmental issues in a way that everyone can understand? I think a large part of the problem is that, for many people, science is intimidating and all the charts and numbers and graphs look like so much confusing, meaningless gibberish.

I'm talking about clear, simple info graphics, posters, maybe TV spots—things that would be easily digestible to someone with, say, only a high school education. For starters, explain what a "theory" is in scientific terms, not according the generally understood definition. Stuff like that. Then move on to the more complex things.

I'm especially concerned about AGW because in the Pew Research Center's most recent report on public priorities, it comes in dead last.

72 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:16:29pm

re: #39 publicityStunted

Image: angry-muffin.jpg

Image: newt-frown.jpg

LOL, now it's twice as perfect!

73 engineer cat  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:17:02pm

angry attack muffin

she meant to say Weaponized Hate Pastry

74 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:17:03pm

re: #67 SanFranciscoZionist

"Glatt" is just a classification of kashrut in which some additional measures are taken. It's a kosher burger joint at which, if their supervision matches their advertising, even the most stringent should be able to eat a burger.

Where are you?

EDIT: Oh, Philly.

Thank you for the response. :)

I'll file that for future reference and await coworkers making cracks about trying to order a cheesesteak there. (Or about Whizz not qualifying as a dairy product.)

75 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:18:25pm

re: #55 aagcobb

This was before an ALJ? That changes things; the ALJ procedures are different, although I think that the general rules of procedure may overlap (including the ability to sanction). I don't normally deal with this kind of administrative procedures, let alone a lawyer who regularly violates rules of procedure and a whole host of ethics guides for lawyering (all to prove that Obama isn't a US citizen even after he released a long form birth certificate). It seems the ALJ could recommend contempt charges to the superior court, but I doubt he'll do that here.

Still, this could present problems for her with the state bar in CA and GA - her behavior continues to violate the code of conduct in both by engaging in frivolous actions.

76 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:18:56pm

re: #70 aagcobb

That is because Romney & friends have unleashed a torrent of attack ads on Newt in Florida, outspending him 14:1. But I read Newt & friends are about to unleash a $6 million dollar campaign themselves in Florida.

I thought Romney was quite awesome against Newt last night. I was surprised. He's getting good at the debate thing and Newt looked embarrassed.

I've talked to a few of my died in the wool (Palinism) Republican Cuban friends over the last few weeks and they can't bear this crop of candidates. Inasmuch as one of them is thinking of voting for Obama.

77 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:19:04pm

Argh. Work calls. BBL

78 engineer cat  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:19:07pm

re: #67 SanFranciscoZionist

even the most stringent

last week i was stringent, but this week i'm merely rigorous

79 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:19:59pm

re: #71 CuriousLurker

Q: Can arrangements be made to get funding (or request donations of time/services) for a PSA type campaign to raise awareness about climate change and other environmental issues in a way that everyone can understand? I think a large part of the problem is that, for many people, science is intimidating and all the charts and numbers and graphs look like so much confusing, meaningless gibberish.

I'm talking about clear, simple info graphics, posters, maybe TV spots—things that would be easily digestible to someone with, say, only a high school education. For starters, explain what a "theory" is in scientific terms, not according the generally understood definition. Stuff like that. Then move on to the more complex things.

I'm especially concerned about AGW because in the Pew Research Center's most recent report on public priorities, it comes in dead last.

A starting point for that might be showing the threat AGW is to polar bears or some other "cute" iconic animal. Go from some of the run-on visible effects and then work backwards - and do the science education as you go.

80 aagcobb  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:20:03pm

re: #71 CuriousLurker

Q:Can arrangements be made to get funding (or request donations of time/services) for a PSA type campaign to raise awareness about climate change and other environmental issues in a way that everyone can understand? I think a large part of the problem is that, for many people, science is intimidating and all the charts and numbers and graphs look like so much confusing, meaningless gibberish.

I'm talking about clear, simple info graphics, posters, maybe TV spots—things that would be easily digestible to someone with, say, only a high school education. For starters, explain what a "theory" is in scientific terms, not according the generally understood definition. Stuff like that. Then move on to the more complex things.

I'm especially concerned about AGW because in the Pew Research Center's most recent report on public priorities, it comes in dead last.

There is a new opinion article in the WSJ from "a growing number of scientists" poo-poohing global warming concerns, which hits all the usual pseudoscientific arguments to reassure the masses.

81 celticdragon  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:21:24pm

re: #16 Gus 802

It's the attack of the martian attack muffin! Run for your lives people! Run for your lives!

Playing in a double feature with "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians"

82 BongCrodny  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:21:29pm

If "Annoying Orange" is good for 100 million views on YouTube, there's gotta be money all over the place for "Angry Little Attack Muffin."

83 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:21:33pm

re: #80 aagcobb

The WSJ is now an absolute joke. Good job, Murdoch. You're the anti-journalist.

84 celticdragon  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:23:35pm

re: #51 Lidane

Oh, Parker gets off easy these days. She's just an obvious RINO in Freeper land. Beck and Coulter, Faux News, Karl Rove, Drudge, NRO, etc.? All filthy turncoat RINOs and liberals for bagging on Newt:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

This must be a parody. Please tell me these idiots can't be serious.

85 aagcobb  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:24:26pm

re: #75 lawhawk

This was before an ALJ? That changes things; the ALJ procedures are different, although I think that the general rules of procedure may overlap (including the ability to sanction). I don't normally deal with this kind of administrative procedures, let alone a lawyer who regularly violates rules of procedure and a whole host of ethics guides for lawyering (all to prove that Obama isn't a US citizen even after he released a long form birth certificate). It seems the ALJ could recommend contempt charges to the superior court, but I doubt he'll do that here.

Still, this could present problems for her with the state bar in CA and GA - her behavior continues to violate the code of conduct in both by engaging in frivolous actions.

You'd think by now our favorite realtor/dentist/worst attorney ever would have malpracticed enough cases to be disbarred several times over.

86 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:25:25pm

re: #83 Obdicut

The WSJ Opinion page was always a joke. It used to sell the Whitewater proceedings on the opinion page. But the rest of the paper is becoming just a high brow Fox News.

87 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:25:42pm

re: #80 aagcobb

There is a new opinion article in the WSJ from "a growing number of scientists" poo-poohing global warming concerns, which hits all the usual pseudoscientific arguments to reassure the masses.

*SIGH* It's almost as if they think only liberals will suffer. They don't seem to understand that the threat is to everyone. Not a damned one of those high paid corporate lobbyists or any of their clients will escape the suffering or be able to make money if (when) things turn to shit. Don't they get that? They claim to care about future generations, but... *throws hands up in disgust*

88 BongCrodny  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:25:54pm

re: #80 aagcobb

There is a new opinion article in the WSJ from "a growing number of scientists" poo-poohing global warming concerns, which hits all the usual pseudoscientific arguments to reassure the masses.

"A recent study of a wide variety of policy options by Yale economist William Nordhaus showed that nearly the highest benefit-to-cost ratio is achieved for a policy that allows 50 more years of economic growth unimpeded by greenhouse gas controls."

I can think of no greater expert to follow when considering the implications of global warming than a fucking economist.

89 celticdragon  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:26:18pm

re: #18 Olsonist

She's a modern Aimee Semple McPherson.

Heh! All she is missing is being caught in a love nest with a 20 year old lover.

90 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:27:13pm

re: #29 Charles

Hey, here's some news, folks - I'm going to interview the National Center for Science Education's Genie Scott via email sometime soon (date not set yet).

If there's anything you'd like to ask her, go ahead and post it as a comment here and I'll include the best ones in my interview.

I would like to ask if she would not send a request to all possible "moderators" to ask, often, how candidates can talk of the USA as a scientifically advanced nation, yet deny one of the most well documented scientific theories of humanity. Needless to say, evolution.

She might also add a simpler requested question: "Please define your understanding of the word Theory as it relates to science".

91 engineer cat  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:27:24pm

re: #89 celticdragon

Heh! All she is missing is being caught in a love nest with a 20 year old lover.

"that's my story, boys, and I'm sticking to it!"

92 celticdragon  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:28:09pm

re: #87 CuriousLurker

*SIGH* It's almost as if they think only liberals will suffer. They don't seem to understand that the threat is to everyone. Not a damned one of those high paid corporate lobbyists or any of their clients will escape the suffering or be able to make money if (when) things turn to shit. Don't they get that? They claim to care about future generations, but... *throws hands up in disgust*

They do think they will escape the worst of it...and they have the well armed private security guys to make sure YOU don't get into their high walled gated estates.

93 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:28:35pm

re: #85 aagcobb

You'd think by now our favorite realtor/dentist/worst attorney ever would have malpracticed enough cases to be disbarred several times over.

There's probably some secret pool, bet, or bingo card going around in the judicial community. They're competing for big prizes to see who can get her to say the right combination of things in a court room. Perhaps she is being booked for amusement purposes*

* - Really doubtful. From what I've seen judges take their jobs *very* seriously and mucking with clearly stated procedures and painstaking due process is a way to really irk them.

94 Interesting Times  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:30:34pm

re: #87 CuriousLurker

Not a damned one of those high paid corporate lobbyists or any of their clients will escape the suffering or be able to make money if (when) things turn to shit. Don't they get that?

Look how old most of them are, though - Koch brothers in their 70s/80s, Murdoch in his 80s...their attitude honestly seems to boil down to:

Durr hurr, we'll be dead before the climate-change chickens come home to roost, so might as well make as much money as we can! Sucks to be you, younger people. Derp.

95 The Left  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:38:19pm

I love that "Angry Little Attack Muffin" is a tag for this post.

96 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:38:35pm

It's like an ecclesiastical version of Weekend at Bernie's - Yes, the Romneys Converted Mitt’s Dead Atheist Father-in-Law to Mormonism.

97 The Left  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:39:22pm

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

It's like an ecclesiastical version of Weekend at Bernies - Yes, the Romneys Converted Mitt’s Dead Atheist Father-in-Law to Mormonism.

WTF!

98 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:41:07pm

re: #54 Dreggas

what makes that amusing is that the echo chamber is now getting smaller. If they are going to write off Beck, Coulter and basicaly all those others then they'll eventually have no one else to turn to.

They'll always have the voices in their head.

99 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:41:48pm

re: #94 publicityStunted

Look how old most of them are, though - Koch brothers in their 70s/80s, Murdoch in his 80s...their attitude honestly seems to boil down to:

I think you're totally correct. As for Murdoch's grandchildren etc, he probably tells himself that climate change will be a character building experience for them.

100 darthstar  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:42:37pm

re: #8 Charles

I love how she throws in the word "articulate" to try to seem smart, while misusing "subscribe" three times!

She obviously doesn't abscribe to the idea of using a dictionary.
(see what I did there?)

101 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:45:02pm

re: #63 BishopX

What is your Classification level Citizen?

Remembering this cartoon.

Image: heller_cobb_7.jpg

102 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:46:46pm

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

It's like an ecclesiastical version of Weekend at Bernies - Yes, the Romneys Converted Mitt’s Dead Atheist Father-in-Law to Mormonism.

SO not my business.

103 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:46:57pm

re: #79 oaktree

A starting point for that might be showing the threat AGW is to polar bears or some other "cute" iconic animal. Go from some of the run-on visible effects and then work backwards - and do the science education as you go.

Oops, missed this one. That's a good idea too.

104 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:47:05pm

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

It's like an ecclesiastical version of Weekend at Bernies - Yes, the Romneys Converted Mitt’s Dead Atheist Father-in-Law to Mormonism.

If I ever find myself getting dragged off to Mormon heaven after death, I will not be a happy bunny.

105 tackle  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:47:40pm

re: #25 SanFranciscoZionist

"Angry little attack muffin" is one for the ages.

Funnily enough, Newt's hair? Looks like a muffin.
At this rate, it's only a matter of time before a candidate gets hit with a muffin. Maybe Romney should serve muffins at his next rally.

106 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:48:54pm

re: #105 tackle

Funnily enough, Newt's hair? Looks like a muffin.
At this rate, it's only a matter of time before a candidate gets hit with a muffin. Maybe Romney should serve muffins at his next rally.

The late husband of a good friend was once arrested for smushing a muffin in a woman's face.

He was greatly provoked, in his defense.

107 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:49:55pm

re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist

Makes me think of that guy a while back who just kept getting pied

108 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:51:53pm

re: #107 windsagio

Makes me think of that guy a while back who just kept getting pied

I blame James Cagney.
/

109 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:52:58pm

re: #102 SanFranciscoZionist

SO not my business.

I think that it's an incredibly unseemly practice, and it doesn't have to be "my business" for me to honestly say so. Changing the status of the dead to match a belief system they actively refused and refuted in life is amazingly disrespectful in my opinion.

"It's mah hot body, I do what I want!"
-Eric Cartman

110 Robert O.  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:56:27pm

Ever since Michele Bachmann left the scene, there has been a big void in the world of comedians. We should be welcoming back Sarah Palin!

111 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:57:21pm

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

I think that it's an incredibly unseemly practice, and it doesn't have to be "my business" for me to honestly say so. Changing the status of the dead to match a belief system they actively refused and refuted in life is amazingly disrespectful in my opinion.

"It's mah hot body, I do what I want!"
-Eric Cartman

Too bad we can't do that becuase it would be really fun to freak out Pam with it. //

112 Gus  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:57:29pm

Sarah Palin. Free-market politics and free-market political analysis. Over-compensated and over-rated. Worth well into the millions while people with 4 times more her intelligence are ignored or likely rewarded for much less. She is the fast-food of the political world. She may even be as simple as chewing gum.

113 engineer cat  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 1:57:34pm

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

It's like an ecclesiastical version of Weekend at Bernie's - Yes, the Romneys Converted Mitt’s Dead Atheist Father-in-Law to Mormonism.

can i hold a briss for mitt?

114 darthstar  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:00:04pm

re: #113 engineer dog

can i hold a briss for mitt?

You work for tips?

115 Gus  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:02:50pm

This clip is literally like a Saturday Night Live skit.

116 darthstar  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:02:55pm
117 Gus  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:04:14pm

re: #116 darthstar

Speaking of working for tips...

Not true! Oil companies barely turn a profit! Most of those profits go to pay corporate taxes!

//

118 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:05:32pm

re: #111 CuriousLurker

Too bad we can't do that becuase it would be really fun to freak out Pam with it. //

That forms part of my objection. Also, Israel finally got the CLDS to stop baptizing dead Jews who never knew or had even heard of Mormonism, by voicing their objections. If they'd felt it was none of their business they never would have accomplished that. In at least one sense I think this case is worse, because the dead father in law had ample opportunity to embrace mormonism in life, where he actively and resolutely rejected it. It's an undoing of the man, a Wite-Out and rewrite of who he was.

119 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:06:24pm

Ask Dr. Scott when she thinks we lose kids in terms of interest in science, and what we could do to keep them.

120 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:08:18pm

I made "happy little submissive muffins"

Mmmm blueberry

121 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:09:12pm

If Sarah had had a few more subscriptions in her childhood--Popular Science, Smithsonian, or National Geographic--she'd be better off.

122 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:09:29pm

Newt's got an 8 point lead nationally.

The Republican establishment is probably going insane just about now. The whole idea of having Iowa and New Hampshire start off the roll call is to be able to guide the outcome. But with the Tea Party partying hard, that doesn't work so well.

Dick Armey is desperately trying to control his monster and failing. If, that's if spelled i f, FLA goes for Newt, the Tea Party will feel their power in the face of the Establishment. The Establishment is trying hard to kill off Newt now and using all its powder in the process. Hard to say what they could do after FLA that they didn't already try in FLA. You can't roll out Bob Dole more than once.

Anyways, the GOP deserves Newt.

123 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:11:13pm

re: #118 goddamnedfrank

It's an undoing of the man, a Wite-Out and rewrite of who he was.

QFT

124 RadicalModerate  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:21:22pm

re: #16 Gus 802

It's the attack of the martian attack muffin! Run for your lives people! Run for your lives!

No, Newt is from the Moon, remember - after all he has to build that base up there.
And he hopes you can see this because he's doing it as hard as he can.

125 Lidane  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:25:39pm

Oh lovely.

In a coffee shop with a friend and there's a hippie with a guitar singing rambling song about the NDAA and government prison camps. Oy.

126 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:26:15pm

re: #122 Olsonist

newt's still dropping in FL predictions though, I think he's peaked for now, and by the time he gets another rush, it'll be too late.

127 Lidane  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:27:04pm

Also, Greg Sargent has come up with a reason to justify more debates -- they drive up Romney's negatives with independents:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

128 Gus  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:27:30pm

re: #125 Lidane

Oh lovely.

In a coffee shop with a friend and there's a hippie with a guitar singing rambling song about the NDAA and government prison camps. Oy.

Victim envy strikes again.

129 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:28:17pm

re: #125 Lidane

Oh lovely.

In a coffee shop with a friend and there's a hippie with a guitar singing rambling song about the NDAA and government prison camps. Oy.

Go all John Blutarsky on him.

130 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:28:52pm

re: #125 Lidane

Oh lovely.

In a coffee shop with a friend and there's a hippie with a guitar singing rambling song about the NDAA and government prison camps. Oy.

Pepper spray!

131 theheat  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:29:30pm

re: #118 goddamnedfrank

Of course this is all empty superstition, as Davies realized. Being dead, he wasn't particularly in a place to care about whatever voodoo was performed in his name. But it's an exceedingly odd way for the Romney family to honor the memory of a man who was committed, for his entire life, to the notion that organized religion is a fraud.

The Mormon church has repeatedly been criticized for its practice of trawling for dead souls to convert to the faith. Catholic and Jewish organizations have expressed outrage when the names of dead popes and Holocaust victims have turned up on Mormon lists of the baptized.

Nobody better baptize me after I'm dead. Note to self: make an addendum to my will.

132 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:31:09pm

re: #125 Lidane

Oh lovely.

In a coffee shop with a friend and there's a hippie with a guitar singing rambling song about the NDAA and government prison camps. Oy.

Is he related to Bed-Bug Man?

133 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:31:36pm

re: #131 theheat

Nobody better baptize me after I'm dead. Note to self: make an addendum to my will.

Just don't be famous or exceptionally successful for anything, and you should be safe :D

134 Pacific moderate  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:34:14pm

Well "subscribe" does literally mean to "write under" (as in to sign an attestment), so she's technically not so far from the truth. Not sure she's followed the same logic as I have, and maybe she thinks Latin is a language spoken by folks down in Venezuela or something, but I'll give her the benefit of the doubt...

135 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:34:20pm

Its only a matter of time before the more (in general) unseemly stuff about Mormonism starts to get delivered to people one way or another.

the mockery might be more damaging than the 'OMG CULT' response from the fundies.

136 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:35:16pm

and as far as you guys know, that hippie just escaped the government death camp!

It could have happened!!!

137 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:37:07pm

re: #136 windsagio

and as far as you guys know, that hippie just escaped the government death camp!

It could have happened!!!

I'm not sure that my first move after escaping from a government death camp would be to find a coffee shop and sing about it, but perhaps I lack imagination.

138 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:38:28pm

re: #104 Jimmah

If I ever find myself getting dragged off to Mormon heaven after death, I will not be a happy bunny.

beats robot hell

139 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:39:48pm

Re: the new font on the front page: It does not look good in Win XP firefox. There are errant pixels where they couldn't quite make the curves. But then, I seem to recall you said all fonts look bad in Windows.

I'll get used to it.

140 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:39:54pm

re: #137 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm not sure that my first move after escaping from a government death camp would be to find a coffee shop and sing about it, but perhaps I lack imagination.

Wouldn't you want people to know? As a dirty hippie musician your communication methods are limited :p

re: #138 WindUpBird

beats robot hell

[Link: i.crackedcdn.com...]

141 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:40:48pm

the one thing about Mormon ancestor baptism...


If they're right, they're doing these people a huge fucking favor!

142 darthstar  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:41:01pm

re: #131 theheat

Nobody better baptize me after I'm dead. Note to self: make an addendum to my will.

No shit. Maybe add a line to the will..."I'm dead now. Leave me the fuck alone. Trust me. You won't hurt my feelings."

143 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:41:27pm

re: #134 Pacific moderate

Well "subscribe" does literally mean to "write under" (as in to sign an attestment), so she's technically not so far from the truth. Not sure she's followed the same logic as I have, and maybe she thinks Latin is a language spoken by folks down in Venezuela or something, but I'll give her the benefit of the doubt...

What are you, some kind of moderate!??!

/

144 darthstar  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:43:20pm

re: #141 windsagio

the one thing about Mormon ancestor baptism...

If they're right, they're doing these people a huge fucking favor!

Not if you find yourself spending eternity with a bunch of generally attractive white people who don't drink, smoke, or put out.

145 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:43:59pm

its funny, I've been bugged by the baptism thing for years, but have had a change in the last 5 minutes... whats' the harm really?

The dead really don't care. If another religion is right, its not like there are going to be postmortem behellings, and if they're right, yay heaven!

146 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:44:02pm

re: #140 windsagio

Wouldn't you want people to know? As a dirty hippie musician your communication methods are limited :p

re: #138 WindUpBird

[Link: i.crackedcdn.com...]

But won't someone spot me and recapture me? Or do government death-camp-type people not go to coffeeshops?

147 darthstar  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:45:04pm

re: #145 windsagio

its funny, I've been bugged by the baptism thing for years, but have had a change in the last 5 minutes... whats' the harm really?

The dead really don't care. If another religion is right, its not like there are going to be postmortem behellings, and if they're right, yay heaven!

Post-mortem baptisms are for the living...to ease their guilt.

148 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:45:07pm

re: #134 Pacific moderate

subscribe is one of those words with many senses:

1 [ no obj. ] arrange to receive something regularly, typically a publication, by paying in advance: subscribe to the magazine for twelve months and receive a free T-shirt.
• arrange for access to an electronic mailing list or online service: some 40,000 users have subscribed to the service at $ 2.99 per month.
• chiefly Brit.contribute or undertake to contribute a certain sum of money to a particular fund, project, or charitable cause, typically on a regular basis: he is one of the millions who subscribe to the NSPCC | [ with obj. ] : he subscribed £400 to the campaign.
• [ with obj. ] apply to participate in: the course has been fully subscribed.
• apply for or undertake to pay for an offering of shares of stock: investors would subscribe electronically to the initial stock offerings | [ with obj. ] : yesterday's offering was fully subscribed.
• [ with obj. ] (of a bookseller) agree before publication to take (a certain number of copies of a book): most of the first print run of 15,000 copies has been subscribed.
2 (subscribe to) express or feel agreement with (an idea or proposal): we prefer to subscribe to an alternative explanation.
3 [ with obj. ] formal sign (a will, contract, or other document): he subscribed the will as a witness.
• sign (one's name) on such a document.
• (subscribe oneself) [ with complement ] archaic sign oneself as: he ventured still to subscribe himself her most obedient servant.
ORIGIN late Middle English (in the sense ‘sign at the bottom of a document’): from Latin subscribere, from sub- ‘under’ + scribere ‘write.’

However, you can really only give her credit for correctly using one of the more obscure senses if she's demonstrated that ability. It is a mark of skill with the language, and she hasn't demonstrated that skill. Far from it, she mangles the language.

What's worse is that others will adopt this and for a few months (years?) we'll be hearing subscribe when ascribe should be used. Not really wrong, but more of a shibboleth.

149 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:45:25pm

re: #144 darthstar

Not if you find yourself spending eternity with a bunch of generally attractive white people who don't drink, smoke, or put out.

You're a dude, just get with your 15 heavenly wives.

re: #146 SanFranciscoZionist

worth the risk! THE TRUTH MUST BE TOLD!!

(I dunno how much further I can push this though, maybe the torture drove him mad?)

150 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:45:41pm

re: #139 wrenchwench

Re: the new font on the front page: It does not look good in Win XP firefox. There are errant pixels where they couldn't quite make the curves. But then, I seem to recall you said all fonts look bad in Windows.

I'll get used to it.

Yeah, I'm just experimenting with Google web fonts. Not permanent yet.

151 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:46:27pm

re: #147 darthstar

Post-mortem baptisms are for the living...to ease their guilt.

guilt over? I've read about it some, but hadn't heard that angle.

152 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:48:33pm

re: #149 windsagio

You're a dude, just get with your 15 heavenly wives.

re: #146 SanFranciscoZionist

worth the risk! THE TRUTH MUST BE TOLD!!

(I dunno how much further I can push this though, maybe the torture drove him mad?)

What would be really impressive is if he didn't even know how to play the guitar before they broke him.

153 sagehen  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:49:23pm

Sarah's hated Peggy Noonan since September 2008 -- when Peggy said "When Barak Obama gives a long answer to a question, one gets the sense he's thinking it though while he speaks. Sarah Palin just... says things."

154 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:50:13pm

re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist

What would be really impressive is if he didn't even know how to play the guitar before they broke him.

OK new theory, it's actually a Manchurian candidate situation, they took a hippie, brainwashed him, and taught him guitar. Now as his music grows in popularity, he'll eventually get close to the head insurgent... and that's when they STRIKE

155 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:50:15pm

re: #145 windsagio

its funny, I've been bugged by the baptism thing for years, but have had a change in the last 5 minutes... whats' the harm really?

The dead really don't care. If another religion is right, its not like there are going to be postmortem behellings, and if they're right, yay heaven!

I like that it's so arbitrary and surreal

"Nope, now he's mormon!"

Wait, what? How's he Mormon? Can you rebaptize someone from anywhere? is there a minimum proximity? What happens if someone from the OTO re-baptizes him as a follower of Thelema? Is there a soul tug of war that develops?

156 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:51:09pm

re: #150 Charles

Yeah, I'm just experimenting with Google web fonts. Not permanent yet.

Way too many options. I like Lora, but I'm no judge of these matters.

Flavors would make a nice Moonbat font.

157 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:51:12pm

re: #154 windsagio

OK new theory, it's actually a Manchurian candidate situation, they took a hippie, brainwashed him, and taught him guitar. Now as his music grows in popularity, he'll eventually get close to the head insurgent... and that's when they STRIKE

I think this would make a truly great cult classic sort of movie.

158 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:51:29pm

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

directed by John Waters

159 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:51:43pm

re: #155 WindUpBird

you can do it from anywhere, and any amount of time can have elapsed, its a 'spirit baptism'


I first heard about it because the LDS church had this habit of baptising famous long-dead statesmen and scientists.

Which is hilarious and dumb, but not angering, y'know?

160 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:52:24pm

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

Or Jodorovsky, if you want to get really heavy

161 Gus  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:53:31pm

re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist

What would be really impressive is if he didn't even know how to play the guitar before they broke him.

It's all part of the DHS run government-mindcontrol-hippie-musician false flag operation. They released him into the public to sing songs about government camps at coffee shops so that people will blow it off as just another government-mindcontrol-hippie-musician conspiracy theory! When in fact there really are government prison camps!

//

162 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:53:55pm

re: #160 WindUpBird

Or Jodorovsky, if you want to get really heavy

you KNOW you would watch that movie

163 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:54:12pm

re: #162 windsagio

you KNOW you would watch that movie

You're damn right

164 sagehen  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:56:58pm

Not everyone is attacking Newt -- he got an endorsement today from longtime Congressman and Vietnam war hero Randy "Duke" Cunningham, the guy who the lead character in "Top Gun" was based on.

Oh, did I forget to mention? Cunningham won't actually be voting for Newt, as he's currently serving an 8-year sentence in federal prison for taking bribes. But he says everyone on his cellblock likes Gingrich and a lot, and they'll ask their families to vote for him.

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

165 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:57:58pm

Here's the answer on "Yo, is this racist?" to a question about Jan Brewer feeling threatened:

Yo, I shouldn’t even have to tell you that, yes, fucking obviously, Jan Brewer, is racist as hell. Let’s put it this way, with Obama, it’s not ambiguous when you’ve been threatened, because it’s typically accompanied by Navy Seals kicking in your bedroom window.

166 andydp  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:59:56pm

I think "Angry Little Attack Muffins" would be a great name for an Indie Band.

167 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:00:10pm

re: #3 Naso Tang

She is saying that the media should treat them all with equally, subscribed, contempt; is she not?

Does she mean circumcised?

(I can be as verbiagy as her)

168 andydp  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:02:32pm

re: #153 sagehen

She got my vote when she called Glen Beck "nuts" in one of her columns.

169 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:02:42pm

re: #165 wrenchwench

When I see a picture of someone sticking their claw in someone else's face, it does not give me the impression that said claw sticker is feeling threatened.

170 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:03:47pm
"But in order to help educate the rest of the American public, I’ll articulate..."

Hahahahaha!

171 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:04:46pm

re: #169 Slumbering Behemoth

When I see a picture of someone sticking their claw in someone else's face, it does not give me the impression that said claw sticker is feeling threatened.

Every comment Brewer made about that encounter was projection.

173 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:10:11pm

re: #142 darthstar

No shit. Maybe add a line to the will..."I'm dead now. Leave me the fuck alone. Trust me. You won't hurt my feelings."

A few weeks ago a friend of mine and I were knocking back a few and I was messing with my phones "in case of emergency" numbers. I noticed a place to put notes of personal info with the emergency numbers (3 slots for messages). So on a goof we put in:

1. Don't fuck me if I'm dead you freak.

2. If I died screwing a hooker, just give her whatever money I have on me. And thank her too.

3. If I'm still alive, get me a hooker.

174 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:10:30pm

re: #170 Slumbering Behemoth

Hahahahaha!

She fears being digitally dis-articulated.

175 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:14:04pm

re: #62 lawhawk

I was going to start redlining her comments, but to what end? It's not like she's going to change her speech patterns, and her followers will still follow her blindly regardless of what she's saying and how she says it (even if she completely mangles the language).

She doesn't even make any sense whatsoever. When you read a transcript of what she's said, it has no rational meaning at all. I guess people figure if they can't understand her, then she must be saying something very profound.

176 Lidane  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:16:34pm

re: #166 andydp

I think "Angry Little Attack Muffins" would be a great name for an Indie Band.

I nominate Angry Little Attack Muffins for a rotating LGF title.

177 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:18:02pm

re: #175 reine.de.tout

She doesn't even make any sense whatsoever. When you read a transcript of what she's said, it has no rational meaning at all. I guess people figure if they can't understand her, then she must be saying something very profound.

I hope that isn't common.

178 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:19:00pm

re: #159 windsagio

I first heard about it because the LDS church had this habit of baptising famous long-dead statesmen and scientists.

Which is hilarious and dumb, but not angering, y'know?

It's annoyingly elitist at the very least. They could issue a blanket mass baptism for all humanity including the ditch diggers, but apparently they're only interested in saving those whose names got into history books.

179 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:22:57pm

re: #178 goddamnedfrank

as I remember it, the idea started with doing your own ancestors, so it was a family thing.

Then (to my understanding) the church started to put pressure on to find famous people, I guess so they could claim they were mormon?

But maybe I'm remembering that wrong, who'd fall for that? "Yeah Bach? Total member of the LDS"

180 aagcobb  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:26:05pm

re: #118 goddamnedfrank

That forms part of my objection. Also, Israel finally got the CLDS to stop baptizing dead Jews who never knew or had even heard of Mormonism, by voicing their objections. If they'd felt it was none of their business they never would have accomplished that. In at least one sense I think this case is worse, because the dead father in law had ample opportunity to embrace mormonism in life, where he actively and resolutely rejected it. It's an undoing of the man, a Wite-Out and rewrite of who he was.

But he's dead, so he doesn't care. The religious engage in all sorts of magic ceremonies to comfort themselves; if a Mormon descendant of mine decides to "baptize" me after I'm dead, and it comforts him/her, its no skin off my nose.

181 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:38:23pm

re: #179 windsagio

Actually, there's a pop-up screen in the genealogy program that tells you you should be doing your ancestors and NOT famous people and especially Jews that died in the Holocaust.

Also, the baptism doesn't make someone automatically LDS; since the most important part of the baptism is someone's desires in their heart, a refusal to accept the baptism makes it null.

182 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:40:46pm

re: #181 EmmmieG

I suspect it's changed then, the 'famous people' issue was what first got it in the news, decades ago.

... its awesome that you can do it online.

183 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:42:37pm

re: #182 windsagio

I suspect it's changed then, the 'famous people' issue was what first got it in the news, decades ago.

... its awesome that you can do it online.

Computers are...beautiful. My kids will never know the pains and agony of having use a card catalog, go from store to store searching for things, or travel to Poland to look up genealogical information.

184 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:45:48pm

re: #183 EmmmieG

Computers are...beautiful. My kids will never know the pains and agony of having use a card catalog, go from store to store searching for things, or travel to Poland to look up genealogical information.

I've always wanted one of those giant hardwood Card Catalog rack things, but I know in my heart I have neither nay conceivable use for one nor any space to keep it.

185 windsagio  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:49:17pm

I know I'm fixating on things, and I don't entirely understand the ancestral baptism thing, but isn't that kind of unfair to the Jews...

I mean if they actually qualify for this (under whatever family rules), and it's believed to be important for them, it seems harsh, especially done for PR reasons.

186 Wozza Matter?  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 3:57:42pm

Angry Attack Muffin - best seattle grunge band ever.

187 BeenHereAwhile  Fri, Jan 27, 2012 4:25:05pm

re: #18 Olsonist

Careful there. Palin is fully capable of a stemwinder. Yes, she's stupid. You know this, she may not and her people don't care. She's a modern Aimee Semple McPherson.

I'm glad to hear someone else compare Palin to McPherson.

I've been waiting for Palin to stage her own kidnapping to generate publicity.

188 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 28, 2012 12:27:53am

re: #180 aagcobb

But he's dead, so he doesn't care. The religious engage in all sorts of magic ceremonies to comfort themselves; if a Mormon descendant of mine decides to "baptize" me after I'm dead, and it comforts him/her, its no skin off my nose.

Exactly. This whole outrage against post-mortem baptisms is silly, IMHO.

189 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 28, 2012 12:28:40am

re: #179 windsagio

as I remember it, the idea started with doing your own ancestors, so it was a family thing.

Then (to my understanding) the church started to put pressure on to find famous people, I guess so they could claim they were mormon?

But maybe I'm remembering that wrong, who'd fall for that? "Yeah Bach? Total member of the LDS"

Baptisms are not done for claiming anyone as a Mormon. Duuuh.

190 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 28, 2012 12:30:09am

re: #178 goddamnedfrank

It's annoyingly elitist at the very least. They could issue a blanket mass baptism for all humanity including the ditch diggers, but apparently they're only interested in saving those whose names got into history books.

There's no blanket mass baptism procedure. And to my knowledge, they do everybody, not only "those whose names got into history books".

191 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 28, 2012 12:31:16am

re: #155 WindUpBird

I like that it's so arbitrary and surreal

"Nope, now he's mormon!"?

That's a rather dumb strawman.

192 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 28, 2012 12:42:10am

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

I think that it's an incredibly unseemly practice, and it doesn't have to be "my business" for me to honestly say so. Changing the status of the dead to match a belief system they actively refused and refuted in life is amazingly disrespectful in my opinion.

"It's mah hot body, I do what I want!"
-Eric Cartman

Which just shows you don't understand the first thing about why the baptisms are performed. It does not change anyone's status, as it is believed that the spirit can freely accept or reject the baptism. In no way it is believed that this baptism automatically makes the dead into LDS believers.


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