Anonymous Hacks White Supremacist Site, Finds Direct Links to Ron Paul

Ron Paul’s connections to neo-Nazis revealed
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The “anti-fascist” wing of the “Anonymous” hacker group has broken into a website run by the white supremacist American Third Position (A3P), and released a document dump consisting of private forum messages, emails, organizational notes, and other personal information.

The documents show numerous connections between Republican candidate Ron Paul and these racist Neanderthals; they’re heavily involved in campaigning for Paul, and according to the messages, have held regular meetings with Ron Paul himself: Ron Paul, the American Third Position Party and Stormfront.

Also revealed: Ron Paul has held meetings with A3P and Nick Griffin, leader of the British National Party — the notorious UK fascist group with neo-Nazi roots.

Ron Paul with white supremacists Don and Derek Black at the 2007 Values Voter debateMembers of the nationalist American Third Position Party (A3P), whose website was defaced by Anonymous, organised Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul’s meetings and campaigns, according to emails hacked by the collective.

Chairman of the British National Party (BNP) Nick Griffin also took part in meetings with Paul and other representatives of A3P.

“According to these messages, Ron Paul has regularly met with many A3P members, even engaging in conference calls with their board of directors,” read a statement from Anonymous.

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UPDATE at 2/1/12 6:30:54 pm

The hacked site is mirrored here.

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400 comments
1 dragonfire1981  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:34:11am

Not directly related, but I have a sneaking suspicion that whoever the eventual GOP nominee is will run at least one campaign ad suggesting in non direct but obvious language that a good reason to vote for them is because they are NOT black.

2 kirkspencer  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:34:24am

Nuh-uh. They PLANTED those letters. and pictures. and notes. and... You can't trust Anonymous.

3 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:34:46am

"But it doesn't show Ron saying anything or supporting them."

/Paulians

4 makeitstop  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:35:04am

Wow. This would be devastating if anyone ever called Luap Nor out on any of this. But they never do for some reason.

5 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:35:07am

And not one person was surprised this day.

6 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:38:14am

the biggest fools in the world are the young people who support luap nor. the only thing they give a shit about is that luap wants to legalize weed. these kids sold their souls far too cheaply.

7 Petero1818  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:40:50am

re: #6 _RememberTonyC

the biggest fools in the world are the young people who support luap nor. the only thing they give a shit about is that luap wants to legalize weed. these kids sold their souls far too cheaply.

You are forgetting the GOLD../

8 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:41:07am

re: #6 _RememberTonyC

the biggest fools in the world are the young people who support luap nor. the only thing they give a shit about is that luap wants to legalize weed. these kids sold their souls far too cheaply.

So weed and an Xbox?
/

9 makeitstop  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:42:09am

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So weed and an Xbox?
/

and a sammich!

10 Petero1818  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:42:09am

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So weed and an Xbox?
/

He had me at hello/

11 erik_t  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:42:34am

re: #6 _RememberTonyC

the biggest fools in the world are the young people who support luap nor. the only thing they give a shit about is that luap wants to legalize weed. these kids sold their souls far too cheaply.

The biggester fools are the older supporters, who really ought to know better.

12 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:43:12am

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So weed and an Xbox?
/

And a copy of Skyrim.

13 Petero1818  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:43:17am

re: #11 erik_t

The biggester fools are the older supporters, who really ought to know better.

I think for many of them, this article represents good news.

14 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:45:38am

My name is Ron Paul and I am not a Confederate!

15 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:45:39am

The Hat Trick of Hate: Stormfront-->Ron Paul<-->Neturei Karta<-->Dinnerjacket

16 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:50:37am

None of this is particularly surprising considering his newsletters and all the links that have come out since the newsletters were made known in 2008. Yet, why is it that the IBD's UK news site the one breaking this news? Where's the US media on this?

And then, there's this devastating bit at the end, which tells you all you really ought to know about Paul:

Paul's connections with racist supporters have been highlighted by the media in America. Bill White, a former member of the neo-Nazi group the National Socialist Movement, became disillusioned with Paul after a spokesman for the Republican candidate called white supremacy "a small ideology".

Following the incident, he wrote on a popular white supremacist website: "Both Congressman Paul and his aides regularly meet with members of the Stormfront set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review, and others at the Tara Thai restaurant in Arlington, Virginia, usually on Wednesdays," he said. "I have attended these dinners, seen Paul and his aides there, and been invited to his offices in Washington to discuss policy."

"Paul is a white nationalist of the Stormfront type who has always kept his racial views and his views about world Judaism quiet because of his political position," he added.

Racist and anti-Semitic bigot knows how to spot 'em.

17 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:55:09am

Charles, btw, you might want to add this IBD link to the story above since it directly talks about the anonymous claims and what they found.

The group claims to be engaged in an ongoing campaign called Operation Blitzkrieg, which is aimed at attacking and exposing the websites of neo-Nazi organisations in Europe and the United States.

Oh, and thanks for the promotion of the AGW-WSJ article.

18 abolitionist  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:55:46am

Semi-off-topic, but I do worry that if the SOPA/PIPA/ACTA interests get their way, Stormfront (and Ron Paul, for example) might be in a position to easily quash bad press stories like this one, merely by making claims of "unauthorized use" of copyrighted materials --such as excerpts from Ron Paul's newsletters, photos, and news stories.

19 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:56:46am

re: #16 lawhawk

Yet, why is it that the IBD's UK news site the one breaking this news? Where's the US media on this?

The American media always shy's away from stuff like this no matter how outrageous. Exposing this kind of stuff is just too divisive no matter how true it may be.

20 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:57:15am

re: #16 lawhawk

"I have attended these dinners, seen Paul and his aides there, and been invited to his offices in Washington to discuss policy."

What policies are the white supremacists interested in talking to Ron Paul about?

21 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:58:05am

re: #20 NJDhockeyfan

What policies are the white supremacists interested in talking to Ron Paul about?

States' Rights issues so they can bring back Jim Crow laws...

22 erik_t  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:59:13am

re: #20 NJDhockeyfan

What policies are the white supremacists interested in talking to Ron Paul about?

Obviously their plan for a bold new organization called Stonedfront.

/

23 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:00:19pm

re: #22 erik_t

Obviously their plan for a bold new organization called Stonedfront.

/

LOL!

24 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:00:38pm

Paul-bot whining will exceed the world supply of cheese in 3..2..1..

25 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:00:51pm

re: #22 erik_t

Obviously their plan for a bold new organization called Stonedfront.

/

Vote for the Stonedfront Party!

26 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:01:32pm

Bryan Fischer finally gets censored... for talking about Newt

Fischer, who is not one to apologize, began his radio show last month to by offering “my apologies for yesterday” for the “intensity” of his attacks on Gingrich over his marital affairs, and had his post labeling Gingrich “a serial adulterer” had been pulled off the AFA’s homepage.

For a radio host who constantly complains that Muslims, liberals and gays and lesbians are trying to suppress his views, it seems that the only one actually censoring Bryan Fischer is none other than his own employer.

27 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:01:44pm

re: #21 ralphieboy

That's probably part of it, or rolling back some of the hate speech laws so that these groups can operate more openly than they have over the past 20 years. Some of the hate groups also push economic policies that are in line with a libertarian perspective (though in White's case, he's all over the map ideologically other than when it comes to being a xenophobe, racist, and anti Semite), so that plays into things as well.

28 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:02:13pm

A3P uses an image of Charles Lindbergh and the Spirit of Saint Louis in their logo. They apparently have permission from the Lindbergh estate to do this.

As an aviator and aviation historian, this bothers me, but it is a fact of history that Lindbergh had racial ideas that were controversial at the time and would be beyond the pale today.

We can have peace and security only so long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood, only so long as we guard ourselves against attack by foreign armies and dilution by foreign races.

29 erik_t  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:03:36pm

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel

As an aviator and aviation historian, this bothers me, but it is a fact of history that Lindbergh had racial ideas that were controversial at the time and would be beyond the pale today.

Sounds like his ideas were, in fact, pale as can be.

30 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:03:44pm

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel

We forget how prevalent that sort of thinking was before WWII. And it never really went away, just got subsumed by the anti-comunist movement for a while and then popped up again in the anti-civil rights movement.

31 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:04:35pm

re: #6 _RememberTonyC

the biggest fools in the world are the young people who support luap nor. the only thing they give a shit about is that luap wants to legalize weed. these kids sold their souls far too cheaply.

re: #7 Petero1818

You are forgetting the GOLD../

Colombian Gold, maybe.

32 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:05:47pm

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel

You put it a lot nicer than I would have... probably for the best.

33 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:06:12pm

re: #6 _RememberTonyC

the biggest fools in the world are the young people who support luap nor. the only thing they give a shit about is that luap wants to legalize weed. these kids sold their souls far too cheaply.

and they are too stoned to notice that he just wants to make it possible for states to legalize it. Or to make it punishable with the death penaly if they so choose...

34 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:06:14pm

Alabama State Senator Thinks Increasing Teacher Pay Goes Against A ‘Biblical Principle’

“If you double a teacher’s pay scale, you’ll attract people who aren’t called to teach.

“To go in and raise someone’s child for eight hours a day, or many people’s children for eight hours a day, requires a calling. It better be a calling in your life. I know I wouldn’t want to do it, OK?

“And these teachers that are called to teach, regardless of the pay scale, they would teach. It’s just in them to do. It’s the ability that God give ‘em. And there are also some teachers, it wouldn’t matter how much you would pay them, they would still perform to the same capacity.

“If you don’t keep that in balance, you’re going to attract people who are not called, who don’t need to be teaching our children. So, everything has a balance.”

I say lets cut this fucker's salary in half, kill his benefits, and see if he still feels the calling to serve in public office.

35 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:06:20pm

RT:
The Ron Paul-related super PAC Revolution missed FEC filing deadlines, claiming that its credit card company sent bad data and that it has to reconcile the reports.

A Super PAC supporting Ron Paul was the only major presidential fundraising operation to miss Tuesday's federal deadline for disclosing its donors. The Revolution PAC blamed an error by its credit card company.
Because of bad information provided by the company, the PAC told the Federal Election Commission, it didn't know who its donors were.
The Super PAC is not the same as the official campaign for Paul, a libertarian and Texas Republican member of Congress. The campaign filed its report on time, and by law the PAC can't coordinate its activities with the campaign, although the PAC is operated by Paul supporters, including his former political director.

"To Whom It May Concern," the Revolution PAC wrote to the FEC at 11:48 p.m. ET Tuesday, just 12 minutes before the midnight deadline for its legally required report.

"Please be advised that on the afternoon of Tuesday, Jan 31, Revolution PAC ... was advised by one of its credit card processing vendors that said vendor had provided erroneous information. As a result, credit card donations reported by the vendor and recorded by the PAC were erroneous.

36 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:07:12pm

re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Alabama State Senator Thinks Increasing Teacher Pay Goes Against A ‘Biblical Principle’

I say lets cut this fucker's salary in half, kill his benefits, and see if he still feels the calling to serve in public office.

I have heard this argument applied to nursing as well.

37 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:07:27pm

Gotta run...work is calling.

BTW...Occupy Oakland has a boat now.

38 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:08:32pm

re: #36 ralphieboy

I have heard this argument applied to nursing as well.

It makes no logical sense at all.

39 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:09:31pm

re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Alabama State Senator Thinks Increasing Teacher Pay Goes Against A ‘Biblical Principle’

I say lets cut this fucker's salary in half, kill his benefits, and see if he still feels the calling to serve in public office.

What. The. Fuck.

I want to put this shmuck in a room with Zedushka (a retired teacher, who taught for 35 years) for five minutes. Just five freaking minutes.

40 SidewaysQuark  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:09:52pm

I personally don't think Ron Paul is as much deliberately racist, as much as he has a completely tunnel-visioned ideology that makes him completely, ludicrously naive about the implications of whom he rubs shoulders with.

Either way, the thought of him getting anywhere near the White House is a scary prospect.

41 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:10:12pm

re: #36 ralphieboy

I have heard this argument applied to nursing as well.

What about doctors, lawyers and investment bankers?

42 erik_t  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:10:22pm

re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Alabama State Senator Thinks Increasing Teacher Pay Goes Against A ‘Biblical Principle’

I say lets cut this fucker's salary in half, kill his benefits, and see if he still feels the calling to serve in public office.

Everyone knows that as you raise wages and benefits, you get shittier employees. It's science.

43 dragonfire1981  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:10:38pm

re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Alabama State Senator Thinks Increasing Teacher Pay Goes Against A ‘Biblical Principle’

I say lets cut this fucker's salary in half, kill his benefits, and see if he still feels the calling to serve in public office.

Please page this, it would make a great discussion topic of its own.

44 engineer cat  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:10:45pm

jim de mint has called on romney to "reframe his remarks about the poor"

!!!

somebody reprogram the firmware on the romneybot chipset plzthenkyew

45 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:11:09pm

"You can be a teacher or a nurse, or you can make a decent wage, but you can't do both."

What kind of horseshit is that?

46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:11:35pm

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel

A3P uses an image of Charles Lindbergh and the Spirit of Saint Louis in their logo. They apparently have permission from the Lindbergh estate to do this.

As an aviator and aviation historian, this bothers me, but it is a fact of history that Lindbergh had racial ideas that were controversial at the time and would be beyond the pale today.

Did you ever read, "The Plot Against America" by Philip Roth?

47 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:11:55pm

re: #39 Alouette

I have several very nice ladies my age as friends who are teachers or are training to be.

Give me 5 minutes with this fucker.

48 Lidane  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:12:23pm

re: #20 NJDhockeyfan

What policies are the white supremacists interested in talking to Ron Paul about?

Deporting all the brown people, of course.

49 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:13:11pm

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It makes no logical sense at all.

Makes perfect sense for people who want to cut budgets.

50 Lidane  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:13:49pm

re: #37 NJDhockeyfan

Gotta run...work is calling.

BTW...Occupy Oakland has a boat now.

Youtube Video
51 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:14:47pm

re: #39 Alouette
Five minutes sounds good. My dad with 40 years teaching experience would give him heck.

52 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:14:49pm

re: #49 ralphieboy

Makes perfect sense for people who want to cut budgets.

The fucker approved a pay raise for all state politicians.

53 Lidane  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:15:17pm

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"You can be a teacher or a nurse, or you can make a decent wage, but you can't do both."

What kind of horseshit is that?

The kind of "Biblical principle" horseshit that has been infecting the Republican party for over 40 years now.

54 erik_t  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:15:22pm

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"You can be a teacher or a nurse, or you can make a decent wage, but you can't do both."

What kind of horseshit is that?

No, you have to teach because you're called to it or something. Don't act like there's any choice to be made.

55 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:15:35pm

The topic is now paged.

56 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:16:10pm

Sorry folks but I still don't like or trust Anon. Not One Bit.

57 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:16:50pm

re: #56 Rightwingconspirator
Given past experience I can believe that.

58 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:16:59pm

re: #51 PhillyPretzel

Let me at this inbred asshole.

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And this prick is corrupt too! He's a package of douche.

59 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:17:55pm

re: #58 ProLifeLiberal
My dad? I hope not.

60 Lidane  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:19:18pm

re: #56 Rightwingconspirator

Sorry folks but I still don't like or trust Anon. Not One Bit.

Nobody has to like them. However, if they expose this sort of garbage from Luap Nor and maybe possibly get some of the younger idiot Paulbots to think twice about supporting that loon, so much the better.

61 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:20:16pm

re: #59 PhillyPretzel

No, the guy who believes that Teachers don't deserve raises. And then votes to raise his own pay.

That guy is a corrupt, inbred, asshole.

62 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:20:19pm

re: #50 Lidane

Me up on my pony, on my boat.

63 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:20:23pm

700 Club explains that atheists should want to cut down every tree

Robertson’s cohost Kristi Watts mockingly asked that since the Wicca religion “believes in the environment and believes that trees are there God,” then “why are these atheists not saying we should cut down every tree because it’s offensive?”

Because they leave stupid ideas like that to dumb evangelicals.

64 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:21:06pm

re: #57 PhillyPretzel
& Lidane-

In fairness the next time somebody posts what might well be good data from some very unpopular source (Heritage, CATO, whoever) , we ought not dog pile the poster. Not if the data looks right as above, or Charles would not have run with this.

65 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:21:23pm

re: #61 ProLifeLiberal
I agree. As I stated my dad would give him heck.

66 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:22:13pm

re: #65 PhillyPretzel

We, between your dad and I, that makes at least 2 of us.

67 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:22:51pm

re: #66 ProLifeLiberal

We, between your dad and I, that makes at least 2 of us.

coming from an English teacher..."between your dad and me"

68 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:22:57pm

re: #40 SidewaysQuark

Sorry, but the Paul's losing every last bit of the benefit of doubt about his views. The weight of evidence goes against the claim that he's just managed to rub shoulders with former KKK, Stormfront, and other neo-Nazi, white supremacist, xenophobic, and other hate groups but doesn't share those views.

You really have to go out of your way to rub shoulders with those kinds of groups - and once you're made aware of those connections, you'd think that he would stop doing so.

He hasn't.

And he continues to utilize support from these groups in his ongoing 2012 campaign.

69 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:23:41pm

re: #67 ralphieboy
My dad would agree. English is his subject and mine too.

70 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:25:24pm

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It makes no logical sense at all.

Funny how both teaching and nursing are traditionally women's occupations...

71 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:25:53pm

re: #69 PhillyPretzel

My dad would agree. English is his subject and mine too.

There's some chick-pop on the radio with an ever-repeating chorus of "there's something about you and I".

I make my daughter turn it off when it comes on the car radio, I just can't stand listening to that level of grammatical ineptitude it over and over.

72 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:26:16pm

re: #70 wrenchwench

Funny how both teaching and nursing are traditionally women's occupations...

and raising children.

73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:26:54pm

re: #68 lawhawk

I keep expecting one of those "Dr. Stangelove" outbursts...

"Mein Fuhrer!!!"

74 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:28:47pm

re: #56 Rightwingconspirator

Sorry folks but I still don't like or trust Anon. Not One Bit.

Hacking was not needed to get this information. It's been here at LGF for years, just without the personal emails and illegal stuff. Anon sucks.

75 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:29:44pm

re: #60 Lidane

Nobody has to like them. However, if they expose this sort of garbage from Luap Nor and maybe possibly get some of the younger idiot Paulbots to think twice about supporting that loon, so much the better.

If this was anywhere else I'd think maybe fraud by Anon.

76 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:31:38pm

re: #73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Youtube Video
77 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:32:47pm

Speaking of right-wing extremists, what's with certain Supreme Court justices and their meddlesome, misogynist wives?

professorkck Karen Costanza
@shoq Komen's Board includes several other rabidly anti-abortion GOP hacks including Maureen Scalia (wife of Antonin) [Link: t.co...]

78 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:33:03pm

re: #36 ralphieboy

I have heard this argument applied to nursing as well.

Apparently God gave this guy the ability to be a total dick without empathy towards other people. And he is making the most of it.
//
(High snark content today - the end-users are being very stupid and their crises automatically are becoming my crises. I also hate getting pestered constantly by management about things that. are. beyond. my. control.)

79 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:33:42pm

re: #74 wrenchwench

Some of the connections are much more clear with the email communications behind the scenes; those would have required subpoenas and legal action to obtain. Anon did it via hacking - and I can't condone their other activities either - especially those involving stealing the guy's credit card information to donate to groups like the ADL.

It might be karma, but it isn't legal.

80 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:34:34pm
...connections to neo-Nazis...

Well, he was the keynote speaker for the John Birch Society's 50th Anniversary Celebration. The Ron Paul Campaign will be quick to deny any problem with these associations. If you've ever seen them in action, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be with a denial.

81 allegro  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:34:56pm

re: #77 publicityStunted

Speaking of right-wing extremists, what's with certain Supreme Court justices and their meddlesome, misogynist wives?

I have felt for some time that Koman was little more than a marketing and branding effort, having long forgotten about the original good goals. All that pink ribbon crap was to sell products, not support women's health efforts and research.

That seems now to be pretty much proven.

82 erik_t  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:35:52pm

re: #81 allegro

I have felt for some time that Koman was little more than a marketing and branding effort, having long forgotten about the original good goals. All that pink ribbon crap was to sell products, not support women's health efforts and research.

That seems now to be pretty much proven.

Heretically, I hate all kinds of cancer.

83 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:36:29pm

re: #73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I keep expecting one of those "Dr. Stangelove" outbursts...

"Mein Fuhrer!!!"

For the project go-live we have an office designated as the "war room" that has a constantly manned phone to answer implementation issues and such.

I put a sign on the door labeled "WAR ROOM" sub-titled "No fighting Allowed!" with a picture of Dr Strangelove underneath it.

It has gone totally over the heads of 80% of the employees here.

I has a sad.

84 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:36:32pm

re: #46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did you ever read, "The Plot Against America" by Philip Roth?

Haven't, but it's on my list. The scenario seems credible.

85 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:38:53pm

re: #46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did you ever read, "The Plot Against America" by Philip Roth?

re: #84 Shiplord Kirel

Haven't, but it's on my list. The scenario seems credible.

The concept sounds much more promising than the book turns out to be. I was rather disappointed by it.

86 JeffM70  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:39:11pm

re: #39 Alouette

This is how sick the GOP is. There's a link from this article to another about how Republicans are against the federal government's import ban of pythons, saying it will hurt a small but thriving economy of snake breeders and retailers. I guess the devastation the pythons are inflicting on native species in the Everglades has no economic impact. Last year Missouri Republicans were up in arms over a bill to shut down puppy mills. Their disconnection from reality is stunning and does not bode well for this country.

87 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:39:49pm

re: #83 oaktree

For the project go-live we have an office designated as the "war room" that has a constantly manned phone to answer implementation issues and such.

I put a sign on the door labeled "WAR ROOM" sub-titled "No fighting Allowed!" with a picture of Dr Stangelove underneath it.

It has gone totally over the heads of 80% of the employees here.

I has a sad.

Sad indeed. I recently took a box of Soylent Green crackers to the studio and showed them to my co-host. He had no idea what they meant. The poor man was born in 1968 and had never seen the movie.

88 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:40:15pm

re: #81 allegro

I have felt for some time that Koman was little more than a marketing and branding effort, having long forgotten about the original good goals. All that pink ribbon crap was to sell products, not support women's health efforts and research.

That seems now to be pretty much proven.

I've always felt that many of these charities like Komen are quite the racket. The CEO of Komen is raking in close to $400,000 a year in salary. They made a big mistake with this decision and will likely lose a lot of contributions. From now on all of these "Race for a Cure" events will be seen as another anti-choice group coming through town.

89 AK-47%  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:40:46pm

re: #86 JeffM70

Native species in the Everglades do not contribute to election campaigns. Neither do puppies.

90 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:42:16pm

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel

Sad indeed. I recently took a box of Soylent Green crackers to the studio and showed them to my co-host. He had no idea what they meant. The poor man was born in 1968 and had never seen the movie.

A restaurant I went to while in college had their version of Green Goddess salad dressing called "Soylent Green". I ordered that for my salads in appreciation of the reference. And had to explain it to my friends, who thought it meant the salad dressing was made from soybeans thus would be tofu-flavored.

91 kirkspencer  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:43:17pm

re: #90 oaktree

A restaurant I went to while in college had their version of Green Goddess salad dressing called "Soylent Green". I ordered that for my salads in appreciation of the reference. And had to explain it to my friends, who thought it meant the salad dressing was made from soybeans thus would be tofu-flavored.

.... tofu-FLAVORED? So not only were they culturally ignorant, they had no tastebuds?

92 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:43:59pm

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel

Sad indeed. I recently took a box of Soylent Green crackers to the studio and showed them to my co-host. He had no idea what they meant. The poor man was born in 1968 and had never seen the movie.

Sigh.
Did you at least throw them at him?
/

93 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:45:00pm

re: #81 allegro

All that pink ribbon crap was to sell products, not support women's health efforts and research.

And wouldn't it be the head-exploding height of irony if said "pink ribbon crap" is manufactured in China under conditions that lead to increased risk of breast cancer?

94 JeffM70  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:45:13pm

re: #89 ralphieboy

They're too dependent on the government to protect them, the socialist leeches.

95 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:46:13pm

re: #88 Gus 802

I've always felt that many of these charities like Komen are quite the racket. The CEO of Komen is raking in close to $400,000 a year in salary. They made a big mistake with this decision and will likely lose a lot of contributions. From now on all of these "Race for a Cure" events will be seen as another anti-choice group coming through town.

They lost their focus. It's now on collecting money, and using it to collect more money rather than collecting money and passing as large a percentage on as they can while maintaining some organization geared for collection.

I dealt with professional money raisers a few times while working as a volunteer for the fraternity. They can bring in some invaluable expertise and ideas, but they also often seem to have a disconnect to why you want to collect, and that your contributors are often more than simply some faceless resource to drain as quickly and efficiently as possible.

96 allegro  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:46:24pm

re: #88 Gus 802

From now on all of these "Race for a Cure" events will be seen as another anti-choice group coming through town.

I am going to do my personal best to contribute to that correct perception.

97 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:46:32pm

re: #93 publicityStunted
That is why I will give directly to a local cancer research group.

98 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:47:03pm

re: #92 Varek Raith

Sigh.
Did you at least throw them at him?
/

I told him they were people...........food.

99 abolitionist  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:47:53pm

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel

Sad indeed. I recently took a box of Soylent Green crackers to the studio and showed them to my co-host. He had no idea what they meant. The poor man was born in 1968 and had never seen the movie.

When major movies and plays were a shared experience more often than not --that era is fading fast. Casablanca? Oh you must mean whitehouse.gov African Queen? Cleopatra, of course.

100 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:48:21pm

re: #42 erik_t

Everyone knows that as you raise wages and benefits, you get shittier employees. It's science.

Except for the bankers and their ilk, they needed to give huge bonuses to keep those people around (the best and brightest that trashed the system).

101 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:50:20pm

This is "shocking". And by that I mean not at all.

102 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:50:55pm

re: #91 kirkspencer

... tofu-FLAVORED? So not only were they culturally ignorant, they had no tastebuds?

I associated with engineers and computer geeks. Often not broadly read or experienced at that age. Very good at math and general science, but generally were not readers beyond narrow fields, and practically none of them were foodies yet. (Pizza, mac and cheese, fast food, some Chinese food types.)

Tofu was an alien soybean substance. Though at least two of them ate it with Chinese food without realizing it. One commented afterwards that the chicken in brown sauce had seemed a bit odd.

103 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:51:02pm

re: #6 _RememberTonyC

the biggest fools in the world are the young people who support luap nor. the only thing they give a shit about is that luap wants to legalize weed. these kids sold their souls far too cheaply.

No kidding. Alot of people my age hear the anti drug war and war rhetoric and think man he's great. He stinks to high heaven.

104 erik_t  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:52:30pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

No kidding. Alot of people my age hear the anti drug war and war rhetoric and think man he's great. He stinks to high heaven.

Only one of which is even accurate, which makes it all the more galling.

105 Randall Gross  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:52:55pm

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So weed and an Xbox?
/

/weed, xbox, gold, survival bunker

106 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:53:27pm

re: #99 abolitionist

When major movies and plays were a shared experience more often than not --that era is fading fast. Casablanca? Oh you must mean whitehouse.gov African Queen? Cleopatra, of course.

Do you know anyone that refuses to watch any black-and-white movies simply because they were filmed in black-and-white? (And I guess therefore out-dated and not worth watching.)

107 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:53:31pm

re: #97 PhillyPretzel

I donate directly to Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center and the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society. Personal connections with both unfortunately, but that makes the giving all the more important. At least with MSKCC, I know the money's going to the hospital facilities, research, and improving cancer care.

Cancer charities run the gamut on directing money to actual cancer research/treatment.

Charity Navigator helps sort out the good from bad charity, but in Sloan Kettering's case, it receives most of its funding from medical care program services rather than donations, and thus does not qualify for the Charity Navigator rating system.

108 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:53:40pm

A3P's "Lindbergh" logo

109 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:54:49pm

re: #108 Shiplord Kirel

A3P's "Lindbergh" logo

Not surprising. Lindy is mainly known for flying from left to right anyways.
;)

110 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:55:03pm

re: #107 lawhawk
Fox Chase Cancer Center and Wistar Institute.

111 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:55:45pm

More info on Komen here: Susan G. Komen's Founder Is Major GOP Donor, Ex-Bush Ambassador

112 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:56:46pm

re: #104 erik_t

Only one of which is even accurate, which makes it all the more galling.

Yeah hypothetically Paul would allow states to impose extremely tough penalties on drug use. And honestly his positions on foreign policy would lead to more wars than end.

113 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:57:27pm

re: #56 Rightwingconspirator

Sorry folks but I still don't like or trust Anon. Not One Bit.

re: #60 Lidane

Nobody has to like them. However, if they expose this sort of garbage from Luap Nor and maybe possibly get some of the younger idiot Paulbots to think twice about supporting that loon, so much the better.

I'm loathe to trust Anon on anything, especially since many of those involved are in it strictly for the lulz, not out of any real principled stand.

However, even a broken clock is right twice a day; most of what Anon's bringing out now about Paul's connections to the Stormfront set is nothing new to most of us here at LGF. However, it IS new to most of Anon, who are of the demographics that have been supporting Paul; now they know what we do and I hope it blows their minds.

114 abolitionist  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:57:52pm

re: #106 oaktree

Do you know anyone that refuses to watch any black-and-white movies simply because they were filmed in black-and-white? (And I guess therefore out-dated and not worth watching.)

My youngest daughter. I think one of the last black and white movies I watched was Shindler's List.

115 Randall Gross  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:58:24pm

Just a head's up to fellow lizards: there appear to be a couple of phishing bots spamming cell phone number ranges out there, one number is 213-315 prefix and the scam is that you've won a trip to the Bahamas, but they need your card number to pay the taxes, the other is from an anonymous "cardholder center".

116 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:59:31pm

re: #115 Thanos
Thanks.

117 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:59:46pm

re: #110 PhillyPretzel

Charity Watch has a list of its top rated cancer charities; LLS rates B+ as does Komen.

118 Randall Gross  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:00:44pm

re: #115 Thanos

Just a head's up to fellow lizards: there appear to be a couple of phishing bots spamming cell phone number ranges out there, one number is 213-315 prefix and the scam is that you've won a trip to the Bahamas, but they need your card number to pay the taxes, the other is from an anonymous "cardholder center".

Arrrrrg typo : 213-350 prefix

119 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:00:52pm

re: #117 lawhawk
Thanks.

120 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:02:10pm

re: #106 oaktree

Do you know anyone that refuses to watch any black-and-white movies simply because they were filmed in black-and-white?

But... that would mean not watching original episodes of The Twilight Zone, or Alfred Hitchcock Presents.

:shudder: No, I do not know anyone like that, nor do I want too.

121 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:03:17pm

Coal + Ice

Coal + Ice is a documentary photography exhibition featuring the work of 30 photographers from China, the United States, Canada, Malaysia, Russia, Hungary, Poland, Norway, Italy, Germany and the United Kingdom, whose work, brought together here, visually narrates the hidden chain of actions triggered by mankind’s use of coal...

122 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:03:35pm

re: #117 lawhawk
Wistar Institute [Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com...]

123 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:04:44pm

A3P is definitely the upmarket end of the racist spectrum but it is every bit as hate-filled and myth-driven as any gang of skinheads or semi-literate Klansmen. It was only founded in 2010, but its chairman, Los Angeles attorney William Daniel Johnson, has a long history of extreme right, neo-nazi and racist agitation. In the 80s, he wrote a book advocating the so-called Pace amendment, an addle-brained attempt to enshrine popular racist notions in the law.

“No person shall be a citizen of the United States unless he is a non-Hispanic white of the European race, in whom there is no ascertainable trace of Negro blood, nor more than one-eighth Mongolian, Asian, Asia Minor, Middle Eastern, Semitic, Near Eastern, American Indian, Malay or other non-European or non-white blood, provided that Hispanic whites, defined as anyone with an Hispanic ancestor, may be citizens if, in addition to meeting the aforesaid ascertainable trace and percentage tests, they are in appearance indistinguishable from Americans whose ancestral home is in the British Isles or Northwestern Europe. Only citizens shall have the right and privilege to reside permanently in the United States.”

This laughable screed actually has a long-running fan base in racist circles and crops up at Storm Front meetings and the like.

Interestingly, Johnson was a Mormon missionary in Japan, speaks fluent Japanese, and specialized in export/import law in his legal practice.

125 erik_t  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:09:15pm

re: #123 Shiplord Kirel

Carefully-phrased and 'reasoned' racism is way creepier to read than Fox Nation monkey jokes.

126 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:16:23pm

There's a mirror of the hacked site up. It always boggles my mind how just plain stupid white supremacists are.

Subject: Thanks!
To: JamesinUSA (jameshallman@hotmail.com)
From: Aisling (niata@hushmail.com)

Hi James, It's really good to hear from you! I appreciate you writing back; you guys (WNN and Stormfront) are the closest thing I have to friends who share my beliefs. Trust me, it doesn't mean a thing to be surrounded by White people if those White people are anti-White. Just yesterday, one of my White co-workers was on the 'net (at work, no less) reading some article about a White woman who posted a "Whites only" sign at her pool. She turned to our Black co-worker and said, "Can you believe there are people like that in this time?" She was implying that it is "backward" or something for White people to not want Blacks around. My Black co-worker got this smug look on her face and said, "That's not going to fly
today." I jumped up, grabbed my student, and left the room because I was so close to popping off at them (and probably losing my job in the process). Can they honestly not see their hypocrisy? Blacks have a plethora of things that are just for them, things that exclude White people. Yet, they want to deny us our right of freedom of association. And I just cannot understand why White people would side with the Blacks over their own. Why do you think they have no loyalty to their fellow Whites? Can brainwashing really be that strong?

I feel for you; it has to be hard to work in a place like yours. I believe that all pro-White people have a tough time in our anti-White society, but White males probably have it the worst. How do you deal with the stress? I'm not handling it very well. Some days it is incredibly hard to go into work, knowing that someone (White, Black, or Mexican) is highly likely to make some anti-White comment and knowing that if I say anything, I could lose my only source of income. I just wish I knew how to go about our goal of establishing our own all-White nations. I don't know if there are enough pro-White people in this country to get some pro-White politicians elected. I'm hoping that most White people aren't like the ones that you and I work with every day. I'm hoping that most of them see the problems the non-Whites, especially the Blacks, cause and they want to separate as much as we do. I apologize for the length of this. That incident with my two co-workers has really bothered me, and I don't have anyone but you guys to talk to about it. Thanks for reading :) and for giving me the web site for the A3P.

I'm trying to get rid of a virus on my PC right now, but as soon as I'm done with that, I want to check the site out. Have a good night (or day)! Brandi

It's all paranoia, scapegoating, projection, and delusions of grandeur.

127 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:17:31pm

re: #16 lawhawk

Please note that the bit at the end is a very old news, and probably has been covered at LGF as well. Long story short, Bill White is such a delusional twit that nothing he says can be trusted, even when he accuses Paul. Better to stick to what the emails reveal, as well as other authentic evidences (newsletters etc.).

128 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:19:40pm

Future A3P chairman Johnson ran for the LA Superior Court in 2008 and initially received a public endorsement from Ron Paul. This was withdrawn in the face of revelations about Johnson's many racist activities and associations.
Ron Paul statement on the Bill Johnson campaign, and more

(from Paul Congressional chief of staff Tom Lizardo) Over the past several weeks, I have also been involved in assisting Dr Paul with the consideration of candidates who are seeking his endorsement for their campaigns. We have gone through the process of setting up a method by which candidates are to be considered for such endorsements. During that period, we have also received and reviewed requests from dozens of candidates.

Although Bill Johnson's name ended up on the endorsement list, he did not go through this process. In light of this fact, and in light of the revelations regarding his past statements and associations, Dr Paul has retracted the endorsement and hopes that, in the future, the process that has been put into place will mitigate the likelihood of similar errors.

129 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:19:50pm

re: #127 Sergey Romanov

Here: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

130 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:23:02pm

re: #63 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

700 Club explains that atheists should want to cut down every tree

Because they leave stupid ideas like that to dumb evangelicals.

Um, because we have evidence that trees exist, and absolutely none that a tree can be a god.

131 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:23:36pm

BTW, is there a link to the email dump? I'm very interested in the figure of Kevin MacDonald, so if it contains anything about him...

132 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:25:03pm

re: #131 Sergey Romanov

He is pretty awesome.

[Link: fasttopten.com...]

133 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:26:00pm

re: #132 Obdicut

Let me guess - some actor with the same name as the antisemitic professor?

134 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:26:48pm

re: #133 Sergey Romanov

Let me guess - some actor with the same name as the antisemitic professor?

You're no fun at all.
/

135 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:26:53pm

Oh, and job well done, Anon. Job well done. That, and hacking Kremlin lackeys' emails, which I'm reading now.

136 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:27:41pm

re: #133 Sergey Romanov

Let me guess - some actor with the same name as the antisemitic professor?

Yes! You mean you haven't seen Kids In The Hall?

This is a much better MacDonald.

Youtube Video
137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:28:09pm

Regarding Bill White. He lives in Roanoke, VA. But the fucker's a Maryland Yankee.

(In defense of my little burg).

138 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:28:28pm

Anon = bronies?

[Link: zone-h.org...]

139 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:29:14pm

A3P's presidential candidate, Merlin Miller, has this to say in his lengthy campaign statement:

A new political party, the American Third Position (A3P), is stepping forward with honest and rational answers. During Ron Paul’s 2008 campaign events, and patriot meetings since, I was privileged to get to know several of the A3P’s future party leaders and came to respect their courage and vision. I share their most noble ideals and have been asked to head the party’s ticket for the 2012 Presidential campaign. (emphasis added)

Miller contributed $200 to Paul's 2008 campaign.

140 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:29:16pm

re: #136 Obdicut

It's not even a movie, where would I see that? ;)

141 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:30:10pm

Top Gingrich Adviser: Democrats Abort Black Babies

Last night, Gingrich’s most prominent surrogate, former Communications Director Rick Tyler, went on the offensive during an MSNBC interview with Rachel Maddow and the Rev. Al Sharpton when asked about his candidate’s racial rhetoric. He accused the anchors of “race-baiting,” and claimed Democrats are hurting African-Americans:

TYLER: It’s baloney. MSNBC ought to get off this race-baiting kick…The Republican Party was founded by Abraham Lincoln…this was started as a civil rights party. If you go back to the 1856 Democratic platform it’s a racist platform…The Democratic Party — you can ask Al Sharpton about that, I think he would agree that the Democrats have failed in the public schools with the African-Americans. They abort their babies. They’ve done nothing to lift them out of poverty.

142 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:30:25pm

re: #106 oaktree

Do you know anyone that refuses to watch any black-and-white movies simply because they were filmed in black-and-white? (And I guess therefore out-dated and not worth watching.)

My wife and I (notice the proper use) watch old B&W movies as often as possible. We just watched The Maltese Falcon and Casablanca over the weekend.

With a good plot and decent acting, the importance of the colour of the film disappears quickly.

143 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:30:28pm

re: #140 Sergey Romanov

This is one of the most evil comedy scenes ever done.

Youtube Video

I love KITH.

144 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:31:20pm

re: #131 Sergey Romanov

BTW, is there a link to the email dump? I'm very interested in the figure of Kevin MacDonald, so if it contains anything about him...

Email dump at the mirror I linked somewhere up above.

145 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:31:37pm

re: #115 Thanos

Just a head's up to fellow lizards: there appear to be a couple of phishing bots spamming cell phone number ranges out there, one number is 213-315 prefix and the scam is that you've won a trip to the Bahamas, but they need your card number to pay the taxes, the other is from an anonymous "cardholder center".

I always put those calls on hold.

146 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:31:40pm

re: #140 Sergey Romanov

It's not even a movie, where would I see that? ;)

They had a movie.

Youtube Video
147 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:32:10pm

re: #144 negativ

Email dump at the mirror I linked somewhere up above.

Yeah, already found. Not a very "professional" dump, archived .eml files are always better than plain text.

148 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:33:08pm

re: #146 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So Onion guys are plagiarists?

149 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:33:46pm

re: #148 Sergey Romanov

So Onion guys are plagiarists?

You didn't realize that?

150 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:34:13pm

re: #143 Obdicut

This is one of the most evil comedy scenes ever done.

[Video]I love KITH.

I'm crushing your head!

151 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:37:33pm

re: #143 Obdicut

This is one of the most evil comedy scenes ever done.

[Video]I love KITH.

Canadian comedy. Who can understand it?

152 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:40:07pm

re: #130 b_sharp

Um, because we have evidence that trees exist, and absolutely none that a tree can be a god.

You completely missed the evil brilliance of their plan to set two of their enemies against one another. Soon the streets will run red with the blood of atheists and wiccans, and the folks at 700 club won't even have to get their hands dirty.

/bwahahaha!

153 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:40:19pm

re: #151 b_sharp

Canadian comedy. Who can understand it?

You can sort of understand it if you've watched enough British humor.

154 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:41:50pm

re: #152 Slumbering Behemoth

You completely missed the evil brilliance of their plan to set two of their enemies against one another. Soon the streets will run red with the blood of atheists and wiccans, and the folks at 700 club won't even have to get their hands dirty.

/bwahahaha!

I guess I have to practice my evil thinking more.

155 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:42:20pm

OT:

Well, guess this explains why I hear wingnut heads exploding:

CNN: US to end Afghan combat mission in 2013

Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said that the U.S. and NATO will be ending their combat mission at some point next year, transitioning to a training role and letting Afghan security forces take the lead.

“Hopefully by mid to the latter part of 2013 we’ll be able to make a transition from a combat role to a training, advise and assist role,” Panetta said. His comment, while en route to Brussels for a NATO meeting, was confirmed to CNN by a defense official.

156 Petero1818  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:43:07pm

re: #151 b_sharp

Canadian comedy. Who can understand it?

Apparently Americans can...
John Candy
Eugene Levy
Dan Aykroyd
Gilda Radner
Dave Thomas
Mike Myers
Leslie Nielson
Kids In The Hall
Lorne Michaels
Catherine O'hara
Samantha Bee
Keeanu Reeves (well his acting makes me laugh)
Jim Carrey
Tom Green
Rich Little
Norm MacDonald
Rick Moranis

There are more. Comedy is what we do. Well, comedy and hockey...and poutine

157 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:43:11pm

re: #153 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

You can sort of understand it if you've watched enough British humor.

Canadian humour is the love child of American and British humour with a twist of French added.

158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:44:31pm

re: #150 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm crushing your head!

"Crushing of the head" has curative powers when you're stuck behind someone driving a Forester.

159 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:45:31pm

re: #156 Petero1818

Apparently Americans can...
John Candy
Eugene Levy
Dan Aykroyd
Gilda Radner
Dave Thomas
Mike Myers
Leslie Nielson
Kids In The Hall
Lorne Michaels
Catherine O'hara
Samantha Bee
Keeanu Reeves (well his acting makes me laugh)
Jim Carrey
Tom Green
Rich Little
Norm MacDonald
Rick Moranis

There are more. Comedy is what we do. Well, comedy and hockey...and poutine

Don't forget we also do SciFi TV series'.

160 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:45:43pm

OT:

SD Indian Tribe sues over right to early vote. The Pine Ridge Reservation is getting only 6 days of early voting, compared with 46 days elsewhere in state.

This month, members of the Oglala Sioux Tribe went to court. In the upcoming presidential balloting, tribal members will have only six days of early voting, when the rest of the state has 46 days to cast early ballots in the primary and general elections.

Filed in federal court this month, the lawsuit contends the disparity is discriminatory, and amounts to “a denial of the right to vote.” One civic group has branded the state’s practice “a back door poll tax.”

The Oglalas’ complaint names state and county officials, including Jason Gant, secretary of state and overseer of elections for South Dakota, and the commissioners of Shannon County, which is roughly contiguous with the Oglala’s Pine Ridge Indian Reservation and oversees state and national elections there.

“I understand why the plaintiffs want what every other citizen gets, but we’re simply out of money,” said the head of Shannon County’s commission, Lyla Hutchison.

Gant’s official website shows he is not just secretary of state but treasurer of Committed to Victory, a PAC whose purpose is “to elect Republican candidates,” according to documents Gant (as treasurer) submitted to Gant (as secretary of state) in 2011. The website also shows Shannon County with 10 times as many Democrats as Republicans. Of 7,683 registered voters, 5,890 are Democrats; another 588 are Republicans. The rest are mostly Independents.

If you've ever gone to the Badlands/Petrified Forest NP, Wounded Knee, Mount Rushmore, or the towns in and around Rapid City, then you've probably driven past or through the Pine Ridge Reservation.

Part of the suit relates to Gant, who is a GOPer, and may be purposefully reducing the vote on a heavily Democratic county/reservation.

The state's actions against the tribe have been reprehensible, and claiming that they're out of money is asinine and appears that the state is once again violating any number of laws, including the Equal Protection Clause.

161 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:45:51pm

re: #157 b_sharp

Canadian humour is the love child of American and British humour with a twist of French added.

Ooo, very scary!

Tonight's film kids is "Blood Sucking Monkeys from East Sewickley"!

:D

162 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:46:10pm

re: #154 b_sharp

I guess I have to practice my evil thinking more.

That's not something you can practice. You're either born with it, or you're not.

However, I do hear that you can get some pointers by watching the 700 club.

163 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:46:27pm

re: #156 Petero1818

Cobie Smulders (HIMYM)

164 kirkspencer  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:46:55pm

re: #159 b_sharp

Don't forget we also do SciFi TV series'.

... since the subject is humor, yes.
//

165 Petero1818  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:46:55pm

re: #162 Slumbering Behemoth

That's not something you can practice. You're either born with it, or you're not.

However, I do hear that you can get some pointers by watching the 700 club.

The only thing you get from watching the 700 club is an aneurysm.

166 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:47:11pm

re: #37 NJDhockeyfan

Gotta run...work is calling.

BTW...Occupy Oakland has a boat now.

Now the Oakland Cops will want an armored speedboat with a deck gun.
// half

167 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:48:08pm

re: #162 Slumbering Behemoth

That's not something you can practice. You're either born with it, or you're not.

However, I do hear that you can get some pointers by watching the 700 club.

How many brain cell deaths can I expect from watching that show?

168 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:48:46pm

re: #156 Petero1818

+1 New food (at least I had not heard of it before...)

169 Lidane  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:49:08pm

In the wake of all the Komen brouhaha, I'm re-thinking my charitable contributions. Does anyone know how the American Heart Association spends their money? I'm thinking of switching from pink to red, but not if the money I'd donate would go to waste or if there are similar chances of political capitulation like there was at Komen.

170 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:49:17pm

re: #168 Rightwingconspirator

+1 New food (at least I had not heard of it before...)

Which one?

John Candy isn't a food, dude.

171 abolitionist  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:49:21pm

re: #115 Thanos

Just a head's up to fellow lizards: there appear to be a couple of phishing bots spamming cell phone number ranges out there, one number is 213-315 prefix and the scam is that you've won a trip to the Bahamas, but they need your card number to pay the taxes, the other is from an anonymous "cardholder center".

re: #145 b_sharp

Just yesterday, I got three call purporting to be from Microsoft. The details are unimportant, but they generally went like this:
Cold Calling Computer Technicians: Don’t Fall For A Scam Like This [Scam Alert!]

Such scammers convince victims to pay thru the nose for various software tools that are freely available.

172 Petero1818  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:49:46pm

re: #163 lawhawk

Cobie Smulders (HIMYM)

I have never watched that show. But I just googled her and she was good looking. So I will give her the benefit of the doubt and throw her on the list. Kind of reminds me of that freeper post from yesterday. Seriously do we really think women are more likely than men to vote on the basis of a candidates physical appearance?

173 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:50:12pm

re: #167 b_sharp

How many brain cell deaths can I expect from watching that show?

I think you have to go into it with several dead already in order to appreciate it.

174 Petero1818  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:50:28pm

re: #168 Rightwingconspirator

+1 New food (at least I had not heard of it before...)

Your cardiologist will not be so happy.

175 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:51:15pm

re: #171 abolitionist

re: #145 b_sharp

Just yesterday, I got three call purporting to be from Microsoft. The details are unimportant, but they generally went like this:
Cold Calling Computer Technicians: Don’t Fall For A Scam Like This [Scam Alert!]

Such scammers convince victims to pay thru the nose for various software tools that are freely available.

I got that call a while back. Didn't work on me for some reason.

176 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:53:20pm

re: #173 Slumbering Behemoth

I think you have to go into it with several dead already in order to appreciate it.

Ah, finally, a practical use for single malt.

177 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:54:33pm

re: #174 Petero1818

Your cardiologist will not be so happy.

I had a bucket of poutine last night.

178 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:54:55pm

re: #170 b_sharp

Which one?

John Candy isn't a food, dude.

"".and poutine""

Yup I had to Google that one.

179 Petero1818  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:56:23pm

re: #170 b_sharp

Which one?

John Candy isn't a food, dude.

No but he loved food. One of my favourite recurring skits...Dining with LaRue

Youtube Video
180 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:56:33pm

re: #178 Rightwingconspirator

"".and poutine""

Yup I had to Google that one.

Fries, gravy and mozza cheese (supposed to be curds, but hey, you can't have everything).

I love the stuff.
I also weigh 220lbs.

I wonder if there is a correlation?

181 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 1:57:33pm

Oh shit! I better get going or I'll be late picking up the wife.
bye.

182 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:00:22pm

re: #181 b_sharp

Before you go...

Just a thought.

Youtube Video

... and a very poorly formulated one at that.

183 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:00:30pm

re: #180 b_sharp

Brown beef gravy,, right?
I'll have to make that as it might be hard to find in LA.

184 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:03:20pm

re: #171 abolitionist

re: #145 b_sharp

Just yesterday, I got three call purporting to be from Microsoft. The details are unimportant, but they generally went like this:
Cold Calling Computer Technicians: Don’t Fall For A Scam Like This [Scam Alert!]

Such scammers convince victims to pay thru the nose for various software tools that are freely available.

I got a call like that last week, "Sir, do you know the possible dangers that exist on your computer system?"

"I sure as hell better since I've been working in computer security for the last 15 years. How is your social engineering attack working out for you today?"

*click - bzzzz*

185 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:03:47pm

re: #151 b_sharp

Canadian comedy. Who can understand it?

Wayne & Schuster!
Terrance & Phillip!

186 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:04:02pm

re: #181 b_sharp

Oh shit! I better get going or I'll be late picking up the wife.
bye.

I better be leaving then.

*rimshot*

187 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:07:57pm

Rep. Speier Pulls Support From Breast Cancer Foundation Over Decision To Sever Ties With Planned Parenthood

Today on the House floor, Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) — a “big booster” for the foundation and a participant in its iconic Race for the Cure event — announced that she would no longer support the organization over it’s decision.

Noting that the foundation based their decision to sever ties on anti-choice advocate Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-FL) “spurious congressional investigation” into Planned Parenthood, Speier blasted Komen for falling into the trap of a “political sandbox.” “A hearing has never been held,” she noted. “I guess it means that Susan G. Komen has become a 501(d)(4), because no longer do they want to be providing nonprofits, they want to become a political advocacy group,” she said.

Speier also pointed out the particular irony of another nearly simultaneous statement from the Komen foundation noting that the rate of breast cancer screening for women without insurance is around 38 percent. Meanwhile, Planned Parenthood provided 700,000 screenings for low-income and uninsured women last year alone. By bowing to right-wing fear-mongering, Komen is helping to cripple one of its own key efforts.

188 Robert O.  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:09:29pm

The only reason that Ron Paul is able to get this far is because he - a qualified gynaecologist - is actually intelligent (even if his worldview is dumb). The typical far-right racist is seldom a political threat because he/she is a low-IQ thug who cannot string a coherent sentence together, and is too dumb / too un-savvy to keep their views hidden. Ron Paul, on the other hand, has a respectable profession and respectable private life. He does a fairly decent job keeping racism (in particular, anti-Semitism) well hidden beneath a well-rehearsed firewall of libertarian claptrap. Apart from getting caught out opposing the Civil Rights Act (his hard-core "libertarianism" doesn't leave any choice), he rarely makes a serious error in front of media. The far-right base know exactly where he stands - which is why they support him; meanwhile, the naive college kids get sucked in by the pro-weed, anti-authority (read: anarchist) message, lacking the life experience to know why his program of undoing every progress of the 20th century will not work.

189 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:11:05pm

re: #185 Alouette

Wayne & Schuster!
Terrance & Phillip!

I found "The Unholy Goalie" on YouTube the other day and watched it for the first time in over thirty years. Bits of it hold up pretty well.

190 Lidane  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:11:12pm

re: #187 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Rep. Speier Pulls Support From Breast Cancer Foundation Over Decision To Sever Ties With Planned Parenthood

Good for her. I hope more high profile donors and supporters follow suit.

191 Lidane  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:17:48pm

Looks like Susan G. Komen's poor decision is prompting affiliates to abandon ship. Groups in Denver and Colorado have announced that they will continue funding Planned Parenthood:

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

192 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:18:17pm

re: #56 Rightwingconspirator

Sorry folks but I still don't like or trust Anon. Not One Bit.

This reminds me of the time I saw a large black widow snatch a cockroach.

193 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:19:17pm

re: #191 Lidane

It looks like it is backfiring.

And I don't think RWNJs will be able to compensate.

194 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:21:58pm

Alabama immigration crackdown costs state up to $11 bln

Alabama's crackdown on illegal immigrants, widely seen as the toughest in the United States, has cost the state's economy up to $10.8 billion, according to a new study.

The Alabama law, passed in June, requires police to detain people they suspect of being in the U.S. illegally if they cannot produce proper documentation when stopped for any reason, among other measures.

The cost-benefit analysis by University of Alabama economist Samuel Addy estimated up to 80,000 jobs were vacated by illegal immigrants fleeing the crackdown, costing Alabama's economy up to $10.8 billion.

The lost jobs also cost Alabama up to $264.5 million in lost state sales and income taxes, and as much as $93.1 million in lost city and county sales taxes, it found.

195 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:22:13pm

re: #193 ProLifeLiberal

They'll spin it to say this means they were right about 'libruls' not really giving a shit about women, and only caring about killing bay-bees. Bet me.

196 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:23:02pm

OT: I just posted a page on Sugar. Some researchers do not like it and they want it labeled as a toxin. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

197 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:23:54pm

re: #195 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, I don't doubt it.

However, we should then spin it back to ask how Komen was going to open new clinics or what-have-you to give the exams they just pulled support from.

198 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:26:11pm

re: #197 ProLifeLiberal

Oh, I don't doubt it.

However, we should then spin it back to ask how Komen was going to open new clinics or what-have-you to give the exams they just pulled support from .

JOB CREATION!

199 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:32:45pm

re: #196 PhillyPretzel

OT: I just posted a page on Sugar. Some researchers do not like it and they want it labeled as a toxin. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

The family of a friend of mine went off the deep end of processed sugar woo. Claimed it had directly caused colon cancer, and a bunch of other stuff.

200 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:33:40pm

re: #196 PhillyPretzel

I won't support regulations on Sugar in a million years.

Just eat it in Moderation, not that hard.

201 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:34:53pm

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bryan Fischer finally gets censored... for talking about Newt

I think he already backed down once, more subtly, about Bachmann.

202 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:36:29pm

Just got this back from our local Komen affiliate:

The South Central Wisconsin Affiliate asks for all who have concerns to contact both us and Komen National. This is an opportunity for the community to be heard.

With complex issues we recommend resisting overly simple, bureaucratic responses. The issue here is access to screening and treatment for poor women across the nation.

The national decision does not change our local focus of providing breast health and breast cancer access for women. Please contact our national office at[no phone numbers allowed] or news@komen.org

203 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:36:55pm

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"You can be a teacher or a nurse, or you can make a decent wage, but you can't do both."

What kind of horseshit is that?

The kind of horseshit spoken by a man who's also probably sure that teachers make way too much money already, and are being allowed to get away with murder by their unions.

204 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:38:15pm

re: #53 Lidane

The kind of "Biblical principle" horseshit that has been infecting the Republican party for over 40 years now.

I have heard the teaching argument used by secular liberal people as well. (Much to my horror, and I was not in a position to say much.)

This is just a guy who already believes something, and has found a little Bible tinsel to hang on it.

205 compound idaho  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:39:28pm

re: #194 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Alabama immigration crackdown costs state up to $11 bln

That's $135,000 per job. Few details given, but that seems fishy.

206 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:41:33pm

re: #194 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Alabama immigration crackdown costs state up to $11 bln

Screw that, put the prisoners to work! And get all the unemployed folks out in the fields too! I want my cheap tomatoes, damnit!!!

207 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:41:46pm

re: #205 compound idaho

That's $135,000 per job. Few details given, but that seems fishy.

They're not just talking about the money lost per job, they're also referring to the costs spent of having the police and local governments enforce the law.

208 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:42:25pm

re: #202 wlewisiii

None Dare Call It Murder

209 compound idaho  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:42:31pm

re: #207 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They're not just talking about the money lost per job, they're also referring to the costs spent of having the police and local governments enforce the law.

Still seems awfully high.

210 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:42:33pm

re: #200 ProLifeLiberal

I won't support regulations on Sugar in a million years.

Just eat it in Moderation, not that hard.

A million years is about what it might take to wean us from sweets. Sugar, like dietary fat, was a "good" thing for most of human history but has now been rendered "bad" by the over-abundance created by material progress. In tribal times; that is, most of human history; people were usually malnourished and had to struggle constantly for enough calories to keep them going. Sugar, in the broad sense, supplied quick energy. Similarly, fat provided quick energy and was easily stored as a hedge against lean times, which could be very lean indeed in the old days. It was also in short supply since wild game was, and still is, relatively low in fat. Our bodies therefore evolved to crave these substances, since a proclivity for finding them could enhance survival.
Evolution, in turn, trails marketing and production by quite a bit. We still have the taste for sugar and fat, but the need has largely disappeared.

211 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:42:44pm

re: #204 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm curious how this inbred Alabama fucker thinks Teachers would be able to eat and find housing.

Blood boiling...

212 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:43:41pm

re: #204 SanFranciscoZionist

Upding for "Bible Tinsel". Made me laugh.

213 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:43:45pm

re: #210 Shiplord Kirel

There will always be the need for bacon.

214 erik_t  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:45:02pm

re: #205 compound idaho

That's $135,000 per job. Few details given, but that seems fishy.

US GDP divided by total number of jobs results in about $110k/job, FWIW.

215 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:45:47pm

re: #209 compound idaho

Still seems awfully high.

Why does it seem high? Arizona had similar results.

216 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:46:48pm

re: #175 b_sharp

I got that call a while back. Didn't work on me for some reason.

I got this yesterday on my landline. The poor girl was reading from a script and had not the slightest idea of what she was talking about.

Nice sales pitch, guys.

217 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:49:38pm

People on the Left need to take this song to heart:

Youtube Video
218 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:50:01pm

re: #207 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They're not just talking about the money lost per job, they're also referring to the costs spent of having the police and local governments enforce the law.

Not to mention what farmers lose while their produce rots in the field for lack of skilled workers.

219 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:51:10pm

re: #218 Slumbering Behemoth

Not to mention what farmers lose while their produce rots in the field for lack of skilled workers.

I suspect that number reflects projected value of produce and goods lost rather than the combined migrant worker salaries.

220 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:53:42pm

re: #219 oaktree

"Not to mention" = wasn't mentioned in the article.

Sorry if I was unclear.

221 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:53:48pm

re: #218 Slumbering Behemoth

Not to mention what farmers lose while their produce rots in the field for lack of skilled workers.

(Desperate farmer shows up at the unemployment office)
"Ok, folks, have I got a deal for you: Sunshine, fresh air, lots of exercise AND nine dollars an hour!"
"Uh, doing what?"
"Picking my produce of course. Now, who'll sign up?"
(deafening silence)

222 zora  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:55:55pm

ot: i've seen in the comments of several romney related articles today that mormons believe he is the white horse of mormon prophecy, [Link: en.wikipedia.org...] and his true intent is a mormon theocracy. is this stuff (calling romney the white horse) new or am i late?

223 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:56:26pm

re: #221 Shiplord Kirel

(Desperate farmer shows up at the unemployment office)
"Ok, folks, have I got a deal for you: Sunshine, fresh air, lots of exercise AND nine dollars an hour!"
"Uh, doing what?"
"Picking my produce of course. Now, who'll sign up?"
(deafening silence)

"Is there a benefits package or any sort of workers compensation in case of on the job injury?"

"You trying to put me out of business, you son of a bitch?"

224 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:56:33pm

re: #221 Shiplord Kirel

Heh. They've had plenty of American born citizens sign up for those jobs, but they just can't hack it. They don't have the necessary skills or endurance of an experienced farm worker.

225 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:56:58pm

re: #221 Shiplord Kirel

(Desperate farmer shows up at the unemployment office)
"Ok, folks, have I got a deal for you: Sunshine, fresh air, lots of exercise AND nine dollars an hour!"
"Uh, doing what?"
"Picking my produce of course. Now, who'll sign up?"
(deafening silence)

"Where's this farm at?"
"Oh, 'bout an hour out of town, but if you pick enough boxes a day, I might chip a few extra bucks for your gas."
(Room bursts into laughter)

226 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:58:28pm

re: #224 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh. They've had plenty of American born citizens sign up for those jobs, but they just can't hack it. They don't have the necessary skills or endurance of an experienced farm worker.

And many of them leg it the fuck off the farm before noon.

227 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:58:54pm

re: #223 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Is there a benefits package or any sort of workers compensation in case of on the job injury?"

"You trying to put me out of business, you son of a bitch?"

"Well, what about retirement?"
"You socialist asshole, this is a farm, not a hand-out!"

228 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:59:07pm

re: #222 zora

I've heard of the "Prophecy," but I don't know if this has been around for Romney. I wouldn't be surprised if they thought of this in 2008.

229 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:01:22pm

re: #227 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

"Look! There's an American. Let's go steal his job".

230 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:01:46pm

re: #222 zora

ot: i've seen in the comments of several romney related articles today that mormons believe he is the white horse of mormon prophecy, [Link: en.wikipedia.org...] and his true intent is a mormon theocracy. is this stuff (calling romney the white horse) new or am i late?

New to me. I thought Romney was only concerned with the White House Prophecy.

231 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:02:00pm

I owe my existence to my father's distaste for farm work. In 1940, when he was 18, he saw an ad for the Army Air Corps. He liked the nifty clothes and it looked easier than chopping cotton so he signed up. Some time later, he was stationed in Texas and met a local girl. She was to his liking, and he to hers. They got married and I was born in England while my dad was stationed there in 1949.

232 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:03:01pm

re: #226 Slumbering Behemoth

And many of them leg it the fuck off the farm before noon.

Why would Americans work for minimum wage and no benefits on a hot sweaty farm, when they can work for no-benefits for minimum wage in an air conditioned Wal-Mart?

233 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:03:04pm

re: #231 Shiplord Kirel

They got married and I was born in England while my dad was stationed there in 1949.

Clearly, you can't run for POTUS then.
/

234 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:03:29pm

re: #231 Shiplord Kirel

Did he fight in World War II?

235 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:03:54pm

re: #232 Alouette

Wal-Mart wasn't hiring?

236 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:04:01pm

re: #233 Slumbering Behemoth

Clearly, you can't run for POTUS then.
/

I'm sure he has his long-form Lizard Certificate though.
/

237 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:04:13pm

re: #233 Slumbering Behemoth

Clearly, you can't run for POTUS then.
/

I don't have a spare billion anyway, or a billion of any kind except perhaps a billion items of junk in my garage.

238 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:08:15pm

re: #232 Alouette

Why would Americans work for minimum wage and no benefits on a hot sweaty farm, when they can work for no-benefits for minimum wage in an air conditioned Wal-Mart?

Actually had a wingnut tell me, when the initial stories came out about farmers not being able to find anybody willing to do the work, that the government of Alabama should address it by "offering" jobs at the farms to those on unemployment, then kicking those who turned down the "offer" off the rolls for "refusing to work."

I asked what the farms should do about the elderly and disabled folks who are collecting unemployment. His response? "Make'em drive/ride on the trucks! Have them pick fruit from a chair! They'll find a job for them on the farms!"

239 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:09:02pm

re: #234 ProLifeLiberal

Did he fight in World War II?

He did, 50 missions in a B-25 in the Med and 22 over Japan in a B-29. He also served in Korea and Vietnam.

240 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:09:52pm

re: #239 Shiplord Kirel

I am grateful for his service.

241 zora  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:10:28pm

re: #228 ProLifeLiberal

I've heard of the "Prophecy," but I don't know if this has been around for Romney. I wouldn't be surprised if they thought of this in 2008.

i think the prophecy has been around since joseph smith but this is the first of me hearing it about romney.

242 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:11:30pm

re: #238 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Actually had a wingnut tell me, when the initial stories came out about farmers not being able to find anybody willing to do the work, that the government of Alabama should address it by "offering" jobs at the farms to those on unemployment, then kicking those who turned down the "offer" off the rolls for "refusing to work."

I asked what the farms should do about the elderly and disabled folks who are collecting unemployment. His response? "Make'em drive/ride on the trucks! Have them pick fruit from a chair! They'll find a job for them on the farms!"

It works for the Chinese.
/

243 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:11:55pm

re: #239 Shiplord Kirel

He did, 50 missions in a B-25 in the Med and 22 over Japan in a B-29. He also served in Korea and Vietnam.

Explains where you got the airplane bug ;)

My great uncle joined as an EM in early 1941 and spent it as a gunner and aircrew on B-17's in Europe.

244 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:12:58pm

re: #241 zora

The Prophecy was said by Joseph Smith.

I'm thinking they are pegging Romney as the man to fulfill the "Prophecy."

245 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:14:49pm

re: #244 ProLifeLiberal

The Prophecy was said by Joseph Smith.

I'm thinking they are pegging Romney as the man to fulfill the "Prophecy."

I really don't want to see anyone pegging Romney.

(alternate definitions are fun.)

246 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:16:00pm

re: #222 zora

ot: i've seen in the comments of several romney related articles today that mormons believe he is the white horse of mormon prophecy, [Link: en.wikipedia.org...] and his true intent is a mormon theocracy. is this stuff (calling romney the white horse) new or am i late?

Like the Salon piece critical of Mitt and the Mormon Church? The anti Mormon voices will get quite loud. I can assure you we will see much hyperbole and no few little white dog whistle lies about the big bad white horse.

I did not expect anyone at Salon to like Mitt, or fail to dislike him. The use of his religion as a way to undermine his credibility is acceptable (IMO) only to the extent you can show he is a bona fide fanatic, who has decided his faith comes before the law and his oath of office.

247 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:17:21pm

re: #245 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Dammit, I should have thought of my wording.

248 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:19:34pm

re: #246 Rightwingconspirator

I read the blog of a Former Mormon with the Handle Stoney321, better known as the Karma Laundrette.

I found her blog through her review of the Twilight Series, called Sparkledammerung. (Roughly spelled that way)

249 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:19:39pm

re: #247 ProLifeLiberal

Dammit, I should have thought of my wording.

I WIN AGAIN!

250 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:20:44pm

re: #249 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yes, yes you do.

Out of curiosity, do you have any pets at home.

251 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:22:09pm

re: #250 ProLifeLiberal

Yes, yes you do.

Out of curiosity, do you have any pets at home.

Not at the moment.

252 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:24:10pm

A pure and simple Page Pimp.

The Controversial Release of Suicide Mosquitoes

Peer review? We don't need any stinkin Peer review.

// Besides, what could go wrong?

253 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:27:05pm

re: #246 Rightwingconspirator

I saw a link on some web site or other to Romney and the White Horse Prophecy thing, but I didn't click on it. Ugh, does this mean now it's gonna be creeping Mormonism?

If people are gonna do this conspiracy crap, they need to tie it together somehow because there are getting to be too many bad guys competing with each other. Not only are we looking at a 5th column (creeping Sharia/Global Caliphate), but also a 6th one (Zionist puppeteers controlling our banking/government), and even a 7th one (creeping Mormonism). Simplify, people!

Where's Glenn Beck with his whiteboard when you need him?? Oh wait. He's a Mormon, so he's suspect now. //

254 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:27:40pm

re: #248 ProLifeLiberal

I read the blog of a Former Mormon with the Handle Stoney321, better known as the Karma Laundrette.

I found her blog through her review of the Twilight Series, called Sparkledammerung. (Roughly spelled that way)

I love this, bookmarked
God made me an atheist, who are you to question Her wisdom?

255 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:28:03pm

re: #246 Rightwingconspirator

Like the Salon piece critical of Mitt and the Mormon Church? The anti Mormon voices will get quite loud. I can assure you we will see much hyperbole and no few little white dog whistle lies about the big bad white horse.

I did not expect anyone at Salon to like Mitt, or fail to dislike him. The use of his religion as a way to undermine his credibility is acceptable (IMO) only to the extent you can show he is a bona fide fanatic, who has decided his faith comes before the law and his oath of office.

Well said.

256 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:28:51pm

re: #182 Slumbering Behemoth

Before you go...

Just a thought.

[Video]... and a very poorly formulated one at that.

Aarrggghh!!1!

257 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:28:52pm

re: #246 Rightwingconspirator

Like the Salon piece critical of Mitt and the Mormon Church? The anti Mormon voices will get quite loud. I can assure you we will see much hyperbole and no few little white dog whistle lies about the big bad white horse.

I did not expect anyone at Salon to like Mitt, or fail to dislike him. The use of his religion as a way to undermine his credibility is acceptable (IMO) only to the extent you can show he is a bona fide fanatic, who has decided his faith comes before the law and his oath of office.

He thinks people go to a "land" when they die (planet to some). He earns $20 million while he works at being president, and pays the USA 14% in tax, but gives 20% to his church (tax deductible).

All other things aside, this tells me a lot of where his priorities lie.

258 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:29:34pm

re: #238 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Actually had a wingnut tell me, when the initial stories came out about farmers not being able to find anybody willing to do the work, that the government of Alabama should address it by "offering" jobs at the farms to those on unemployment, then kicking those who turned down the "offer" off the rolls for "refusing to work."

I asked what the farms should do about the elderly and disabled folks who are collecting unemployment. His response? "Make'em drive/ride on the trucks! Have them pick fruit from a chair! They'll find a job for them on the farms!"

How about legalizing prostitution, and offering unemployed women jobs as sex workers?

259 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:30:19pm

re: #258 Alouette

How about legalizing prostitution, and offering unemployed women jobs as sex workers?

If they get pregnant, its just God's will after all.

260 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:32:12pm

Newt Gingrich campaign paid own company, self

Newt Gingrich’s campaign paid him $47,000 for a list of supporters and paid one of his companies another $67,000 for web hosting, according to a report filed Tuesday with the Federal Election Commission.

The report paints a picture of a campaign that is working to professionalize, but continues to be based in part around the candidate himself and the network of companies and non-profits that he built after leaving Congress.

261 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:32:42pm

re: #246 Rightwingconspirator

Like the Salon piece critical of Mitt and the Mormon Church?

Okay, that's the one I saw, but didn't click on—I recognize the graphics.

262 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:33:05pm

re: #159 b_sharp

Don't forget we also do SciFi TV series'.

Surprised no one else mentioned The Shat before now...

263 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:33:37pm

re: #260 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Newt Gingrich campaign paid own company, self

So he made a few bucks. A true capitalist. Do you hate capitalism? Commie, you?/

264 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:34:08pm

re: #256 b_sharp

Aarrggghh!!1!

Shut up, and grab an axe. We got trees to chop down.

265 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:34:43pm

re: #263 Sergey Romanov

So he made a few bucks. A true capitalist. Do you hate capitalism? Commie, you?/

True capitalism means I would be a licensed privateer sailing the high seas looking for targets of opportunity right now.

266 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:35:05pm

re: #167 b_sharp

How many brain cell deaths can I expect from watching that show?

It's Jonestown for your brain, let's just say that.

/too much?

267 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:36:45pm

re: #253 CuriousLurker

If people are gonna do this conspiracy crap, they need to tie it together somehow because there are getting to be too many bad guys competing with each other. Not only are we looking at a 5th column (creeping Sharia/Global Caliphate), but also a 6th one (Zionist puppeteers controlling our banking/government), and even a 7th one (creeping Mormonism). Simplify, people!

Okay, I'm thinking we can use the polygyny angle to tie the Mormons to the Muslims, and we can probably tie the Muslims to the Jews with their strange dietary requirements, but how do we tie the Jews to the Mormons?

268 compound idaho  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:36:48pm

re: #263 Sergey Romanov

So he made a few bucks. A true capitalist. Do you hate capitalism? Commie, you?/

I remember when Dwight Stones gave all his winnings to the Dwight Stones Track Club (of which he was the sole member) in order to stay an amateur.

269 BongCrodny  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:38:37pm

re: #260 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Newt Gingrich campaign paid own company, self

Gingrich has a penchant for flying private charter jets, and the campaign appears to have reined in its payments to his charter jet company of choice, Moby Dick Airways...

Words fail.

270 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:39:51pm

re: #267 CuriousLurker

Okay, I'm thinking we can use the polygyny angle to tie the Mormons to the Muslims, and we can probably tie the Muslims to the Jews with their strange dietary requirements, but how do we tie the Jews to the Mormons?

Aren't the Mormons a tribe of Jews who got somehow crossed the Atlantic instead of the Red Sea, perhaps by mistake?

271 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:39:56pm

re: #267 CuriousLurker

Okay, I'm thinking we can use the polygyny angle to tie the Mormons to the Muslims, and we can probably tie the Muslims to the Jews with their strange dietary requirements, but how do we tie the Jews to the Mormons?

They both call non-members gentiles. Can you do anything with that?

272 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:40:38pm

re: #254 Rightwingconspirator

I have read most of her previous posts on Mormonism. And other stuff too.

re: #260 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Maybe its just me, but isn't that illegal?

273 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:40:40pm

re: #267 CuriousLurker

Okay, I'm thinking we can use the polygyny angle to tie the Mormons to the Muslims, and we can probably tie the Muslims to the Jews with their strange dietary requirements, but how do we tie the Jews to the Mormons?

Lots of Mormons think of themselves as being descendants of the tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim. There you go.

274 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:40:53pm

re: #267 CuriousLurker

Okay, I'm thinking we can use the polygyny angle to tie the Mormons to the Muslims, and we can probably tie the Muslims to the Jews with their strange dietary requirements, but how do we tie the Jews to the Mormons?

You need to ask Newt. He managed to tie secularism to Islam, so he's got to have something to tie Judaism to Mormonism.

275 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:41:03pm

A 'major announcement' from Trump tomorrow

"After many years together, my hairpiece and I are separating over irreconcilable differences."

276 Petero1818  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:43:58pm

re: #275 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A 'major announcement' from Trump tomorrow

"After many years together, my hairpiece and I are separating over irreconcilable differences."

He will announce that he is launching an exploratory committee as to whether he should run as an independent. Something that he can drag out there for the next 3 or 4 months.

277 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:44:09pm

re: #275 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Another season of Celebrity Apprentice is starting this month. He has to drum up ratings for it some how.

278 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:44:30pm

re: #253 CuriousLurker

I have to admit, that Article lost the plot.

Grooming Romney for the Presidency? Come on.

I hope I haven't offended you.

279 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:45:53pm

re: #267 CuriousLurker

Okay, I'm thinking we can use the polygyny angle to tie the Mormons to the Muslims, and we can probably tie the Muslims to the Jews with their strange dietary requirements, but how do we tie the Jews to the Mormons?

Lost tribe. Or wait long enough and all the Jews will be baptized in.

280 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:45:59pm

re: #276 Petero1818

He's just playing with our political system to generate buzz for his fucking tv show, the transparent hack.

281 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:46:01pm

re: #270 Naso Tang

Aren't the Mormons a tribe of Jews who got somehow crossed the Atlantic instead of the Red Sea, perhaps by mistake?

re: #271 wrenchwench

They both call non-members gentiles. Can you do anything with that?

re: #273 Sergey Romanov

Lots of Mormons think of themselves as being descendants of the tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim. There you go.

See? I didn't know any of those things. You guys might be onto something... Oh, wait—here, I've got it! Along with what you guys said, Wiki states:

From the start, Mormons have tried to establish what they call Zion, a utopian society of the righteous.

Creeping Zionist White Horse Caliphate!!11! Aaaiieee... Save us Newt!

282 Petero1818  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:46:38pm

re: #269 BongCrodny

Words fail.

He's a real populist./
I heard today he went after Romney for Romney's "I am not worried about the poor" comment. Nobody cares for the poor as much as Newt.

283 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:47:26pm

re: #281 CuriousLurker

re: #271 wrenchwench

re: #273 Sergey Romanov

See? I didn't know any of those things. You guys might be onto something... Oh, wait—here, I've got it! Along with what you guys said, Wiki states:

Yes, and Joseph Smith translated the book of Mormon with urim and thummim.

284 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:47:28pm

re: #281 CuriousLurker

From the start, Mormons have tried to establish what they call Zion, a utopian society of the righteous.

They're gonna free us from The Matrix?

285 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:48:11pm

re: #270 Naso Tang

Aren't the Mormons a tribe of Jews who got somehow crossed the Atlantic instead of the Red Sea, perhaps by mistake?

No.

286 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:49:04pm

But... I like stuff that tastes like chicken. :(

287 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:49:45pm

re: #258 Alouette

How about legalizing prostitution, and offering unemployed women jobs as sex workers?

Shhh! Don't tell Newt about that.

288 BongCrodny  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:52:24pm

So the Mormons send missionaries all over the freaking world...and Mitt Romney gets Paris, France?

But the Republican presidential hopeful spent a significant portion of his 30-month mission in a Paris mansion described by fellow American missionaries to The Daily Telegraph as “palace”. It featured stained glass windows, chandeliers, and an extensive art collection. It was staffed by two servants – a Spanish chef and a houseboy.

Telegraph

289 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:52:53pm

re: #275 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A 'major announcement' from Trump tomorrow

"After many years together, my hairpiece and I are separating over irreconcilable differences."

Great. Split the GOP even further. All idiots on one side, all idiots on the other.

290 compound idaho  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:53:12pm

re: #287 Shiplord Kirel

Shhh! Don't tell Newt about that.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

That is the way Germany sees it.

291 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:53:39pm

re: #284 Slumbering Behemoth

They're gonna free us from The Matrix?

No, any believers who aren't Mormon, Jewish, or Muslim will automatically have dhimmi status. Atheists, agnostics, pagans, etc. and any dhimmis who misbehave will be sent to live in FEMA "reeducation" trailer camps located around salt & coal mines, and put to forced labor until they mend their ways.

292 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:53:41pm

re: #285 Sergey Romanov

No.

Not by mistake?

293 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:53:46pm

re: #258 Alouette

How about legalizing prostitution, and offering unemployed women jobs as sex workers?

Ouch!

294 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:55:33pm

re: #291 CuriousLurker

But I haven't finished chopping down all the trees.

295 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:56:07pm

re: #266 talon_262

It's Jonestown for your brain, let's just say that.

/too much?

First rule of atheist science - never drink the Kool-aide.

296 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:56:36pm

re: #267 CuriousLurker

Okay, I'm thinking we can use the polygyny angle to tie the Mormons to the Muslims, and we can probably tie the Muslims to the Jews with their strange dietary requirements, but how do we tie the Jews to the Mormons?

Binder twine.

297 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:56:49pm

re: #275 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A 'major announcement' from Trump tomorrow

"After many years together, my hairpiece and I are separating over irreconcilable differences."

"After much research and consideration, I've decided that what this election needs is another rich prick to run for office."

298 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:57:30pm

re: #292 Naso Tang

Not by mistake?

You're confusing terms. That's not "Mormons" you're talking about.

299 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:59:56pm

Random Observation: My Rubbermaid laundry hamper is 27 years old.

300 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:00:52pm

re: #299 Slumbering Behemoth

Random Observation: My Rubbermaid laundry hamper is 27 years old.

Congrats. When are the nuptials?

301 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:01:31pm

re: #295 b_sharp

First rule of atheist science - never drink the Kool-aide.

But the Flavor Aid is fine to drink.
/

302 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:02:57pm

re: #294 Slumbering Behemoth

But I haven't finished chopping down all the trees.

Why cut them down when you can just burn them?

Youtube Video
303 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:03:25pm

re: #267 CuriousLurker

Okay, I'm thinking we can use the polygyny angle to tie the Mormons to the Muslims, and we can probably tie the Muslims to the Jews with their strange dietary requirements, but how do we tie the Jews to the Mormons?

The lost tribes of Israel!

304 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:03:34pm

re: #302 Bubblehead II

Why cut them down when you can just burn them?

[Video]

Too wiccan.

305 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:04:29pm

re: #300 b_sharp

Nuptials? The poor thing is hanging on for dear life. The only thing keeping her from the grave are several feet of duct tape.

306 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:05:22pm

re: #301 Slumbering Behemoth

But the Flavor Aid is fine to drink.
/

One man's aide is another man's aid.

307 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:05:25pm

re: #257 Naso Tang

He thinks people go to a "land" when they die (planet to some). He earns $20 million while he works at being president, and pays the USA 14% in tax, but gives 20% to his church (tax deductible).

All other things aside, this tells me a lot of where his priorities lie.

Valid as can be. The tithe is a bit controversial in the church too. Not whether to, but what level your obligation is. There is a progressive expectation, that is the rich are expected to put up more than a struggling middle class big family. On his taxes, I guess we can get mad at any and all of the super rich that only pay what the law calls for. Or will we bother with the wealthy that don't run for office?

GTG my commute awaits, and out with family tonight.

308 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:06:06pm

re: #305 Slumbering Behemoth

Nuptials? The poor thing is hanging on for dear life. The only thing keeping her from the grave are several feet of duct tape.

Kinky!

309 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:07:31pm

re: #290 compound idaho

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

That is the way Germany sees it.

Urban legend.

310 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:07:37pm

re: #291 CuriousLurker

Hey, you still here? I need to ask some questions about things to someone who has been Muslim for more than a year (Yes it has been that long).

311 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:08:47pm

re: #303 Alouette

The lost tribes of Israel!

Don't you mean the tribes of Israel formerly known as lost.

312 Lidane  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:11:03pm

re: #275 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A 'major announcement' from Trump tomorrow

"After many years together, my hairpiece and I are separating over irreconcilable differences."

Heh.

Please let it be that he's running as a third party candidate. That would be hilarious.

313 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:12:41pm

re: #312 Lidane

Heh.

Please let it be that he's running as a third party candidate. That would be hilarious.

Trump/Palin 2012!
Delicious

314 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:12:44pm

re: #312 Lidane

I think that would assure Obama's victory.

And would also end Trump.

315 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:12:49pm

re: #304 b_sharp

Too wiccan.

So they should be doing it like this? Time consuming.

316 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:13:38pm

Movie playing in my head right now:

Two massive armies face off.

On one side, the soldiers of the Zionist White Horse Caliphate. Naturally, they all ride white horses and they have a flag with a horse head silhouette, a crescent moon, and a star of David on it.

On the other side is a eclectic mix of evangelicals, hate preachers, counter-jihadists, white nationalists, militiamen, and scared old folks. They carry a modified version of the Gadsden flag—it has a newt on it instead of a snake, of course. They all wear tricorne hats.

Unbeknownst to the two armies, there are atheist/secular/pagan insurgents hiding behind trees, in bushes, in trenches covered with leaves & branches. The armies advance...*

*Still working on the rest of the screenplay.

317 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:15:53pm

re: #313 HoosierHoops

Trump/Palin 2012!
Delicious

You owe me a new keyboard.

318 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:16:44pm

re: #313 HoosierHoops

Trump/Palin 2012!
Delicious

Trump/Palin 2012: Pray the Mayans Were Right!

319 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:16:59pm

The Death Toll from the Port Said Football riot is now 73.

From Wikipedia on the cause:

As reported by the New York Times, a prime factor in the lethal riots was the involvement by ultras, said to be extreme sports fans who also have been instigators of political violence. The ultras are said to be profane, boisterous, and prone to unpredictable behavior, often committing attacks against police. The group was involved in the initial protests that brought down the government of former president Hosni Mubarak and have engaged in several clashes with dozens of fatalities in Tahrir Square. Additionally, ultras are blamed in an attack on the Israeli Embassy in Cairo.

So....basically militant sports fans are responsible for much of the bad turbulence in Egypt in the last year? (Barring the attacks on Christians and Sufis by Salafists)

320 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:17:18pm

re: #316 CuriousLurker

Movie playing in my head right now:

Two massive armies face off.

On one side, the soldiers of the Zionist White Horse Caliphate. Naturally, they all ride white horses and they have a flag with a horse head silhouette, a crescent moon, and a star of David on it.

On the other side is a eclectic mix of evangelicals, hate preachers, counter-jihadists, white nationalists, militiamen, and scared old folks. They carry a modified version of the Gadsden flag—it has a newt on it instead of a snake, of course. They all wear tricorne hats.

Unbeknownst to the two armies, there are atheist/secular/pagan insurgents hiding behind trees, in bushes, in trenches covered with leaves & branches. The armies advance...*

*Still working on the rest of the screenplay.

I want to play the agnostic who follows the front stabbing the wounded, collecting rings and purses.

321 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:18:15pm

re: #320 Decatur Deb

I want to play the agnostic who follows the front stabbing the wounded, collecting rings and pursed purses.

Done! You've got the role. LOL

322 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:19:22pm

re: #316 CuriousLurker

Movie playing in my head right now:

Two massive armies face off.

On one side, the soldiers of the Zionist White Horse Caliphate. Naturally, they all ride white horses and they have a flag with a horse head silhouette, a crescent moon, and a star of David on it.

On the other side is a eclectic mix of evangelicals, hate preachers, counter-jihadists, white nationalists, militiamen, and scared old folks. They carry a modified version of the Gadsden flag—it has a newt on it instead of a snake, of course. They all wear tricorne hats.

Unbeknownst to the two armies, there are atheist/secular/pagan insurgents hiding behind trees, in bushes, in trenches covered with leaves & branches. The armies advance...*

*Still working on the rest of the screenplay.

The atheists are all playing poker when the 3 member leader coalition comes up and human secularist says, "piss on it, we'll wait until they've driven each other mad."

323 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:20:37pm

re: #316 CuriousLurker

Unbeknownst to the two armies, there are atheist/secular/pagan insurgents hiding behind trees, in bushes, in trenches covered with leaves & branches. The armies advance...*

And then the trees cry out, "O ye faithful! There is a secular humanist and a pagan hiding behind me! Come and get them!"

324 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:20:41pm

re: #319 ProLifeLiberal

The Death Toll from the Port Said Football riot is now 73.

From Wikipedia on the cause:

So...basically militant sports fans are responsible for much of the bad turbulence in Egypt in the last year? (Barring the attacks on Christians and Sufis by Salafists)

Damn Occupy people causing problems.

325 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:21:00pm

re: #323 Alouette

And then the trees cry out, "O ye faithful! There is a secular humanist and a pagan hiding behind me! Come and get them!"

Hahahaha, yes!

326 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:22:23pm

re: #321 CuriousLurker

Done! You've got the role. LOL

Did you mention to DD he has to play the part naked?

327 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:23:19pm

re: #275 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A 'major announcement' from Trump tomorrow

"After many years together, my hairpiece and I are separating over irreconcilable differences."

Oh the Horror! I've figured it out!

Trump is changing his name to Nehemiah Scudder! It's Scudder/Palin 2012!

IYEEEEEEEE!!! Run! Run for the hills!


///

328 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:23:30pm

re: #316 CuriousLurker

Movie playing in my head right now:

Two massive armies face off.

On one side, the soldiers of the Zionist White Horse Caliphate. Naturally, they all ride white horses and they have a flag with a horse head silhouette, a crescent moon, and a star of David on it.

On the other side is a eclectic mix of evangelicals, hate preachers, counter-jihadists, white nationalists, militiamen, and scared old folks. They carry a modified version of the Gadsden flag—it has a newt on it instead of a snake, of course. They all wear tricorne hats.

Unbeknownst to the two armies, there are atheist/secular/pagan insurgents hiding behind trees, in bushes, in trenches covered with leaves & branches. The armies advance...*

*Still working on the rest of the screenplay.

I'd lead off with that...And the whole braveheart kind of Visuals..
But it was a dream and upon awaking you begin to develop the different characters driving these movements on a world wide clash of modern civilizations. The Bad guys, the good guys, the motives, the political and religious winds blowing. The ending could be great...

329 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:23:33pm

re: #326 b_sharp

Did you mention to DD he has to play the part naked?

A small sacrifice for Art. And that only lasts until I get Art's tabard.

330 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:23:36pm

re: #326 b_sharp

Did you mention to DD he has to play the part naked?

Shhhh. Don't tell 'im yet.

331 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:23:59pm

re: #323 Alouette

And then the trees cry out, "O ye faithful! There is a secular humanist and a pagan hiding behind me! Come and get them!"

Then the rear O ye faithful yells "it's just another atheistic trick to get us to burn down the god trees."

332 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:24:00pm

re: #307 Rightwingconspirator

Valid as can be. The tithe is a bit controversial in the church too. Not whether to, but what level your obligation is. There is a progressive expectation, that is the rich are expected to put up more than a struggling middle class big family. On his taxes, I guess we can get mad at any and all of the super rich that only pay what the law calls for. Or will we bother with the wealthy that don't run for office?

GTG my commute awaits, and out with family tonight.

There is nothing wrong with paying the legally allowed tax. What is wrong is claiming that this is a fair tax, particularly if, as you suggest, his church which receives even more from him has an expectation of fairness that amounts to a progressive tax on the wealthy.

333 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:25:40pm

re: #327 wlewisiii

Oh the Horror! I've figured it out!

Trump is changing his name to Nehemiah Scudder! It's Scudder/Palin 2012!

IYEEE!!! Run! Run for the hills!

///

First Heinlein reference of the day.

334 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:27:06pm

re: #328 HoosierHoops

I'd lead off with that...And the whole braveheart kind of Visuals..
But it was a dream and upon awaking you begin to develop the different characters driving these movements on a world wide clash of modern civilizations. The Bad guys, the good guys, the motives, the political and religious winds blowing. The ending could be great...

Shit, what if the only ones left after the big battle are the poker playing atheists?? //

335 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:27:50pm

re: #334 CuriousLurker

Shit, what if the only ones left after the big battle are the poker playing atheists?? //

God does not play poker with the universe.

336 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:28:22pm

re: #334 CuriousLurker

Shit, what if the only ones left after the big battle are the poker playing atheists?? //

Sounds like high school.

337 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:29:53pm

re: #329 Decatur Deb

A small sacrifice for Art. And that only lasts until I get Art's tabard.

In bed.

338 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:31:17pm

re: #324 b_sharp

Maybe its just me, but sports should not be this serious business. I can't find a Sports riot this deadly other than the Football War back in the 70's between Honduras and El Salvador.

339 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:31:53pm

re: #335 Decatur Deb

God does not play poker with the universe.

You'll probably be in the best shape. You'll be filthy rich form all the booty you collected, and the atheists will probably be broke & hung over. Maybe you can finance the new empire.

340 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:32:06pm

re: #338 ProLifeLiberal

Maybe its just me, but sports should not be this serious business. I can't find a Sports riot this deadly other than the Football War back in the 70's between Honduras and El Salvador.

Work your way back to the Greens and Blues of imperial Rome.

341 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:32:53pm

re: #334 CuriousLurker

Shit, what if the only ones left after the big battle are the poker playing atheists?? //

They ride off into the sunset singing "Don't Fence Me In"

342 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:33:19pm

re: #340 Decatur Deb

In recent times. I'm aware of the Nika Riots. Though what you mentioned is new.

343 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:33:29pm

re: #335 Decatur Deb

God does not play poker with the universe.

He much prefers dice.

344 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:33:38pm

re: #335 Decatur Deb

God does not play poker with the universe.

Why, does the universe keep peeking at God's cards? Deals from the bottom?

345 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:33:53pm

re: #338 ProLifeLiberal

I thought you said you had questions. What are they?

346 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:34:15pm

re: #334 CuriousLurker

Shit, what if the only ones left after the big battle are the poker playing atheists?? //

LOL
It's a screenplay right? At the end either the good guys win or the bad guys win..Everybody hates those movies that at the end..You don't know what the hell happened..In fact if there isn't a great ending I think it sucks..

347 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:34:17pm

re: #343 b_sharp

He much prefers dice.

That's Special. (Relatively)

348 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:34:27pm

re: #338 ProLifeLiberal

Maybe its just me, but sports should not be this serious business. I can't find a Sports riot this deadly other than the Football War back in the 70's between Honduras and El Salvador.

It really has nothing to do with sports. The violence itself is the draw and the sport is the justification.

349 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:34:46pm

re: #344 wrenchwench

Why, does the universe keep peeking at God's cards? Deals from the bottom?

Never pays up.

350 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:35:36pm

re: #335 Decatur Deb

God does not play poker with the universe.

Eh, that's because poker's not random enough. God prefers Craps. I know. His son got all of my last paycheck.


What?

///

351 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:36:38pm

re: #344 wrenchwench

Why, does the universe keep peeking at God's cards? Deals from the bottom?

The universe keeps telling God he is unneeded in the big picture which bums God out enough for him to misplay his cards.

352 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:37:30pm

re: #351 b_sharp

The universe keeps telling God he is unneeded in the big picture which bums God out enough for him to misplay his cards.

Don't string this along.

353 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:37:40pm

BBIAB. Need to start a fresh pot of coffee...

354 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:38:01pm

re: #347 Decatur Deb

That's Special. (Relatively)

That's generally true.

355 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:38:32pm

re: #354 b_sharp

That's generally true.

Theoretically.

356 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:39:11pm

re: #354 b_sharp

That's generally true.

Patently so.

357 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:39:25pm

re: #354 b_sharp

That's generally true.

Only through the right (gravitic) lens.

358 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:42:23pm

re: #352 Decatur Deb

Don't string this along.

You have such a singular focus.

359 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:44:31pm

re: #356 Decatur Deb

Patently so.

Who in their right mind would believe a cat can be both alive and dead.

(I had to go full circle and tie everything together)

360 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:46:48pm

re: #359 b_sharp

Who in their right mind would believe a cat can be both alive and dead.

Priests of Bastet

[Link: www.barbarakatz.net...]

361 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:48:18pm

re: #352 Decatur Deb

Don't string this along.

The Hoopsters non-scientific view of Physics
I really think Brane theory makes the most sense to me.. And the math works and multiple universes create the energy for a big bang..
I think of it like a bunch of bubbles each it's own universe interacting with another contacting the membrane of the other soup bubble..Thus the name Brane theory..
Oh crap..is the big bang theory on tonight?
/

362 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:49:27pm

re: #339 CuriousLurker

I do, I just saw the Wikipedia Article and summary of the Football Riots in Egypt and became disappoint.

Was talking to a friend today who is Muslim. I went out to buy a birthday card for a friend in Colorado. The situation is a bit unusual here. I've known this friend for about 6-7 years. I am very comfortable around her.

The awkward comes in because she fits the personality my mother said would probably be necessary for deeper relationship. Having Asperger's Syndrome does narrow the number of people down, because most will write me off as weird. It helps we share an odd interest (History).

Not only that, but when talking with her before winter break (this was before she found out she was student teaching this semester, which ate half of it), when asked if she wanted to go swimming (I like swimming, and love the smell of chlorine.), she said "It sounds like you want to have fun." The girl I talked to today when getting the card said that the only two ways to interpret that would be a) Thinks of me like family in some way, and is very comfortable around me or b) Has romantic feelings of a sort. This compounded by the fact that, to use an ethnic-religious analogy, she is Croatian, I am Bosnian. But I have heard that in one direction, those sorts of relationships are okay.

You probably see the last issue here. Which goes to this. How do I do relationships being Muslim. I know Dating is a no-no, but beyond that, I am really, really fuzzy. Thanks for help.

363 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:50:46pm

re: #360 Decatur Deb

Priests of Bastet

[Link: www.barbarakatz.net...]

Ceiling Cat!

364 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:51:55pm

re: #361 HoosierHoops

The Hoopsters non-scientific view of Physics
I really think Brane theory makes the most sense to me.. And the math works and multiple universes create the energy for a big bang..
I think of it like a bunch of bubbles each it's own universe interacting with another contacting the membrane of the other soup bubble..Thus the name Brane theory..
Oh crap..is the big bang theory on tonight?
/

When confronted by zombies seeking branes, don't forget the double tap.

365 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:54:22pm

re: #335 Decatur Deb

God does not play poker with the universe.

Of course not. It's craps.

366 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:57:20pm

re: #361 HoosierHoops

The Hoopsters non-scientific view of Physics
I really think Brane theory makes the most sense to me.. And the math works and multiple universes create the energy for a big bang..
I think of it like a bunch of bubbles each it's own universe interacting with another contacting the membrane of the other soup bubble..Thus the name Brane theory..
Oh crap..is the big bang theory on tonight?
/

I prefer the Unseen University version of the creation story.

367 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:58:39pm

re: #362 ProLifeLiberal

You know..Someday you will want to thank me for this..I shan't not offend you..
This isn't a Muslim issue or how a girl who may secretly think about you, who she is ethnic-religiously.. None of it matters on the top 3 things about women..
You just be your own damn self..You be yourself in all relationships in this world..
And everything will work out just fine ProLife..

368 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:59:31pm

re: #364 b_sharp

When confronted by zombies seeking branes, don't forget the double tap.

Don't forget the seatbelts!

369 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:02:07pm

re: #367 HoosierHoops

Oh, its not ethnic.

I was using the Ethnicity as a proxy for the difference religiously. I match Bosnian, she matches Croatian.

But I do thank you for everything you said there.

370 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:04:40pm

re: #369 ProLifeLiberal

Oh, its not ethnic.

I was using the Ethnicity as a proxy for the difference religiously. I match Bosnian, she matches Croatian.

But I do thank you for everything you said there.

I'm glad it was Hoops who answered you, cause I don't know nothin' about no religion.

371 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:05:24pm

re: #362 ProLifeLiberal

Do what the atheists would do. No more, no less than you both are comfortable with.

372 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:09:11pm

‘Gasland’ director arrested for filming in Congress

The House Science Committee had convened to discuss the EPA’s findings about possible water contamination from fracking in an Ohio town, but evidently they weren’t interested in being recorded. An ABC News crew was turned away from the hearing, and [film-maker Josh] Fox was ejected from the premises and arrested for “unlawful entry.”

373 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:10:20pm

re: #372 jaunte

‘Gasland’ director arrested for filming in Congress

What are they trying to hide I wonder?

374 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:12:11pm

re: #373 b_sharp

It seems almost a reflex for people in authority to try to control what gets recorded.

375 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:15:05pm

re: #374 jaunte

It seems almost a reflex for people in authority to try to control what gets recorded.

In my opinion, that can be modified slightly.

"It seems almost a reflex for authoritarian people to try to control what gets recorded."

It does seem that most people attempting political life have at least a snippet of authoritarianism in them.

376 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:15:15pm

re: #362 ProLifeLiberal

You probably see the last issue here. Which goes to this. How do I do relationships being Muslim. I know Dating is a no-no, but beyond that, I am really, really fuzzy. Thanks for help.

Disclaimer: This is only my opinion based on my imperfect knowledge. To get a more Islamically sound, definitive answer, you should seek out an trusted imam in your area who can counsel you personally.

---

Dating isn't necessarily forbidden, per se. What's forbidden is being alone with a woman (like in a room, just the two of you, with the door shut) or having sexual contact with her.

That said, there's what's practical and what's practicable for American Muslims. We don't usually have the extended family or community ties that exist in other places where Islam is practiced.

I don't see why you shouldn't be able to go out in public with her, either just the two of you or in a group. Nothing wrong or un-Islamic about that, IMO, as long as you behave yourselves.

But—and this is a big BUT—if you're going to do that it should be with the purpose of getting to know her as a potential wife, not just to date for the sake of dating. Neither one of you should see anyone else while you're seeing each other as hearts are involved and feelings could get hurt on both sides—i.e. it's something you need to approach with seriousness & respect (for her and yourself).

If you're not emotionally or financially ready for that level of seriousness, then you need to step back until you are.

377 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:15:22pm

re: #343 b_sharp

He much prefers dice.

He prefers flipping beetles. And invented click beetles as a way to cheat.
/

378 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:16:29pm

re: #373 b_sharp

What are they trying to hide I wonder?

Oklahoma is dealing with the same frackking issues.. Earthquakes have dramatically risen 3 fold recently.. There are studies going on..
Common sense says if you massively lubricate the earth below us with Salt water and chemicals.. That the earth may move. Lube them plates up!
If we move the technology forward and study this issue we can frack safely.
If not we'll need to try something else

379 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:16:52pm

re: #372 jaunte

‘Gasland’ director arrested for filming in Congress

I just put that movie on my Amazon list the other day.

380 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:19:16pm

re: #376 CuriousLurker

Disclaimer: This is only my opinion based on my imperfect knowledge. To get a more Islamically sound, definitive answer, you should seek out an trusted imam in your area who can counsel you personally.

---

Dating isn't necessarily forbidden, per se. What's forbidden is being alone with a woman (like in a room, just the two of you, with the door shut) or having sexual contact with her.

Yichud!
Issur Negia!

Evidence of the Zionist influence on Muslims!

BWAHAHAA!

381 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:20:19pm

re: #377 oaktree

He prefers flipping beetles. And invented click beetles as a way to cheat.
/

Why was the bombardier beetle invented?

382 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:20:32pm

As the earth warms up, it's going to be ever more important to have clean sources of fresh water. Maybe more important than hydrocarbon fuels. If the fracking process really is a cause of groundwater pollution, we need to know for sure, quickly.

383 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:20:36pm

re: #380 Alouette

Yichud!
Issur Negia!

Evidence of the Zionist influence on Muslims!

BWAHAHAA!

Noooooo!!! ROFLOL

384 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:22:34pm

re: #367 HoosierHoops

You just be your own damn self..You be yourself in all relationships in this world..
And everything will work out just fine

Sound advice. This strategy has kept me single for going on 6 years now. Eventually the ol' libido and even the desire for simple human contact just dries up and falls right off. You'll never even miss it.

385 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:22:48pm

re: #382 jaunte

As the earth warms up, it's going to be ever more important to have clean sources of fresh water. Maybe more important than hydrocarbon fuels. If the fracking process really is a cause of groundwater pollution, we need to know for sure, quickly.

All you have to do is imagine what will happen when the glaciers disappear to see how important clean fresh water will become.

386 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:23:18pm

Evening Lizardim. I don't particularly like Anonymous; here in the States, they tend to be a bunch of disgusting, foul, loathsome trolls and are one of America's premier purveyors of child pornography. That being said, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

387 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:23:44pm

re: #384 negativ

Sound advice. This strategy has kept me single for going on 6 years now. Eventually the ol' libido and even the desire for simple human contact just dries up and falls right off. You'll never even miss it.

Such a positive message. You really are misnamed.

388 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:24:50pm

re: #385 b_sharp

All you have to do is imagine what will happen when the glaciers disappear to see how important clean fresh water will become.

Stay thirsty, my friends...

389 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:26:06pm

Luckily, GOP congress hopefuls aren't worried about fracking or fresh water, they are focused like a laser on job 1:
Alabama candidates vow: 'Impeach Obama'

390 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:26:59pm

Tech Note: b_sharp Beer Search Applet working overtime.

(Sorry Charles)

391 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:39:08pm

re: #376 CuriousLurker

Make no mistake, the part about Potential Wife is the thing on my mind. Long-Term is all on my mind in that regard.

re: #378 HoosierHoops

Three Fold is a bit low.

Something like just 30-40 quakes between 1970-to-2000ish.

Now, it's happening fairly often.

392 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:41:20pm

re: #381 b_sharp

Why was the bombardier beetle invented?

Early experiment in chemical propulsion systems. Failed prototype due to insufficient power and limited fuel supply.

393 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 5:45:45pm

re: #392 oaktree

Early experiment in chemical propulsion systems. Failed prototype due to insufficient power and limited fuel supply.

Ah.. The Bell Jet-pack prototype.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

394 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 6:00:47pm

Josh Fox is on the Ed Show right now talking about his arrest today.

395 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 6:42:22pm

Night Lizards. May the Diety of your choice smile down upon you.

396 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:45:10am
397 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:45:28am
398 ripuree  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:48:06am

Well I did it again. I posted the end of my comment before the beginning. Can someone tell me if I can delete my comment to re-post.

399 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:58:04am
400 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:40:19am

re: #14 Gus 802

Yep, Ron gets the capital-C.

Dumb bigot.


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